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Interstellar (2014)
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Introduction and Podcast Promotion
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Hey everyone, welcome back to Hazardous Opinions. Today, we'll be discussing and diving deep into Interstellar from 2014. A big way you guys can help us is by following us and giving us five stars wherever you get your podcasts.
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Andy’s Recent Hobbies and Interstellar Break
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Now, before we dive in, Andy, how are you doing? I'm doing pretty good. ah I've been just taking a lot of time outside lately and I got up practicing ah throwing knives lately.
00:01:04
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Oh, no way. Okay, so we were just doing pickleball and now you're into throwing knives. Okay. Yeah, my dad bought a couple sets, so we've been, you know, cut a hunk of of tree out and and just been throwing a lot in the day.
00:01:17
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oh that's awesome and that's actually interesting i like that yeah actually like in the middle of interstellar here uh it was perfect being three-hour movie i'm like i was almost halfway through and i'm like okay gonna go need a little break for an hour yeah yeah have a little intermission kind of like if they would have at a theater like go get your snacks go yeah go pee no go throw your knives throw some knives yeah come back back to uh space exploration oh there you go yeah yeah wow you're really transported through that whole thing space throwing knives space yeah okay nice i would love to get like good at uh
00:01:51
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Not axe throwing, but a tomahawk actually. Like
Discussion on Interstellar's Creators
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tomahawk throwing. I've always found that like fascinating and I've wanted to kind of get into that. Especially like going over to Laughing Sun and doing yeah axe throwing and stuff like that. That's popular that is. You could be a really good party trick when you get in the the middles all the time.
00:02:09
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No, exactly. yeah like something to like spice up the hanging out, right? Yeah. Like, hey, you guys want to see this?
00:02:17
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No, that's good to hear, man. I suppose. yeah Should we now dive into Interstellar? Yeah, let's let's go exploring. All right, guys. All right. Interstellar was released in 2014. It was directed by Christopher Nolan, written by Christopher and Jonathan Nolan, his brother, that's also worked on things like Westworld.
00:02:38
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That's especially top of mind for me. The cinematographer was Hoyt Van Hoytima that is about to team up with Nolan again for the Odyssey.
00:02:50
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Super excited for that project. um He's also worked with Nolan on Dunkirk, Oppenheimer, and Tenet and also did the cinematography for Her, Nope, Ad Astra, and Spectre.
00:03:04
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Lost Space. lot of space, lot of space. And I mean, when you kind of like group those movies, you can kind of see the tones that Hoyt kind of likes to play with, honestly. Like I kind of do see a correlation between all of them.
Overview of Interstellar's Plot
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The plot is in Earth's future, a global crop blight and second dust bowl are slowly rendering the planet uninhabitable. Professor Brand, played by Michael Caine, a brilliant NASA physicist, is working on plans to save mankind by transporting Earth's population to a new home via a wormhole.
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But first, Brand must send former NASA pilot Cooper, played by Matthew McConaughey, and a team of research through the wormhole and across the galaxy to find out which of the three planets could be mankind's new home.
Cast and Ratings of Interstellar
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This stars Matthew McConaughey, Anne Hathaway, Michael Caine, Jessica Chastain, Casey Affleck, Wes Bentley, Topher Grace, John Lithgow, and a young Timothee Chalamet.
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The IMDB rating on Interstellar is 8.7 out of 10, and the letterboxed rating is an average of 4.4 out 5. Pretty high. pretty high Yes, I think i was wrong. I think on the last part I said in top 10, but I think it's 19th right now.
00:04:29
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Yeah, yeah. some Some people jump up there. Yeah, its god that's insane. i Andy, though, what's your personal rating on Interstellar and what's your relationship to it?
Andy’s Love for Interstellar
00:04:41
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Yeah, so I saw Interstellar pretty shortly after release. I don't think this was a theater watch for me, which it should have been. This would be amazing in IMAX. i just, I fell in love with this film instantly.
00:04:54
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i am a big space nerd. I'm big fan of, you know, things like The Martian. Ad Astra, as you mentioned as well, it's really good. All the other space movies, First Man, um always get me.
00:05:07
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And of course, Alien is one of my favorite movies of all time. So getting into the big concepts of ah sci-fi, mixing that with like an amazing cast with Hathaway and McConaughey, and then you got like the runtime to be able to do all this story work and have a good story thread that brings all of it together with Nolan's um amazing expertise as a director.
00:05:30
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i just thought this was... the perfect sci-fi film. I don't know if there's any better sci-fi films for me um that are strictly sci-fi.
00:05:41
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So did this one's a high for me. This be probably 9.7. It's a really good movie. Holy wow. Yeah. I don't think I've ever heard you rate a movie that way.
00:05:55
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I think Alien and Thing that we've covered are both tens and they're like fair. My only tens. This is very close to a perfect movie for me.
Critique of Interstellar’s Story Details
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There's just a few little story details that irk me.
00:06:08
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Mostly like the ending I'm not a fan of, but it it it pales in comparison to the stuff that Interstellar does right. That works for you. Yeah. Yeah. That score. That score. I'm goingnna touch on it few times in the notes, but it's really good.
00:06:21
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Okay. Yeah. Hans is good at what he does. Hopefully all of us film fans know that already. I kind of meant in passing as well. yeah I'm sorry. On pod, you have ah rated movies pretty high, but in passing, like, oh, how was this movie? How did you think of it? like Oh, yeah.
00:06:38
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Yeah. it's It's very rare that you find a new film that jumps that high. Yeah, no, for sure. I think it's been a while since the past the eights for a new film. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, 2014.
00:06:51
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Yeah, pretty little more modern. and So, yeah. what What do you think? I'll kind of, yeah, just start out with my my relationship
Co-host’s Mixed Feelings on Interstellar
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to it. um I definitely watched this with friends either in 2014 or very soon after, um because I remember one of my buddies at the time knew I was a movie fanatic and took every opportunity to show me the movies I hadn't seen yet.
00:07:16
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Mm hmm. We popped Interstellar on and everyone was blown away. Except for me, unfortunately. Not being a big fan of the Dark Knight trilogy and loving Inception, I didn't know what to make of Christopher Nolan at that time.
00:07:36
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At that age and my younger mind, I don't think I really grasped how film directors and their film catalogs really correlated or could look like.
00:07:51
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For example, I had no clue. E.T. and Catch Me If You Can were both directed by Spielberg. ah Like at that time. Yeah. Now that I look at it,
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And those two films, like they really feel like Spielberg, both of them. When watching Nolan movies, I can see the identity there as well.
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Now, as it stands, he's kind of 50 50 for me, whether I really love his films or not. Love Oppenheimer and Inception, but I don't love Tenet and the dark with either the Dark Knight Rises. Hmm.
00:08:33
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Or Batman Begins. And quite a bit of The Dark Knight, unfortunately. But, you know, we're not going to get into that one right now. He's impressive to me, but his settings, his color palettes, the messaging, and stories don't always reach me.
00:08:51
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For me, there's a difference between sci-fi drama space exploration and sci-fi horror or space operas like Star Wars.
Preference for Different Sci-Fi Genres
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Horror and Star Wars will always intrigue me over space exploration for some reason.
00:09:07
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I don't find excitement in movies like Gravity. And i honestly still haven't checked that one out. My fascination with space only went as far as constellations and admiring the night sky when I can peer up at it, you know.
00:09:23
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ah That's kind of where it stops. And space exploration can be thrilling given the circumstances. But for some reason, i find the thrills I'm looking for if that space exploration has a little flair to it, like a horror element or lightsabers and the force, you know, like mystical things like that.
00:09:47
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Does that kind of make sense? Yeah. Yeah. you want You want something more than just sci-fi. Right. And the conflict of this movie and the message that love transcends space and time, they really impact me, don't get me wrong.
Critique of Nolan's Explanatory Style
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But I find it grueling at times and lost with Nolan's work. Sometimes I think he knows he's smarter than his audience and it's annoying, but I also know he also over explains things to the audience that can also be annoying to some film watchers.
00:10:18
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And this watch with my adult brain was pretty different. I will admit compared to my first viewing in a, in a little more positive light, I will say.
00:10:30
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um But honestly, after saying all that, I'd give it a 2.5 out of 5 on Letterboxd. Wow. You disappoint me.
00:10:43
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I am so sorry. i' so You know, this is kind of the get back from spring. From spring? Yeah. Yep. It all stems from spring. i still care I still carry that with me.
00:10:54
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And I'm hoping to do a updated spring episode like... in year so or something like that, like a little far removed. But yeah, yeah. um and No, no, this wasn't a it wasn't an intended slight against you.
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I apologize. But yeah, just. ah That is my rating. And I'm very nervous saying that out loud on a movie
Diverging Ratings and Views on Interstellar
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pod. Trust me. Yeah, I know. and This is hazardous opinion, like siren, siren.
00:11:26
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Yeah. So it's like saying you don't like a Schindler's List or Shawshank. i'll I'll get more into it. I'll get more into it. I promise everybody. And you hopefully, hopefully any of my words, I don't know if they're just rambling or if it's just all the stuff that's in my head.
00:11:44
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But yeah, I have my reasonings and I'll try and lay them out as clearly as I can. yeah who knows? We'll hit both sides of the audience. We will. Yes. Yeah. And that's what I'm excited for. Like, I'm excited that you're excited about this movie.
00:11:57
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Like, in all honesty, guys, like I am. i I love when people love things that I don't actually. I don't know if we've had a bigger difference in rating in any movie. I don't think we have.
00:12:12
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I don't think so. That's one your lowest, and this is one of my highest. Honestly, um I'm kind of questioning my... ah my movie critiques right now because I just can't find what everybody else finds in this.
00:12:25
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Yeah. I can't. Interesting.
Comparison to Other Nolan Films
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Where did, um, uh, have you seen momento? Did you do that one with us? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did with you and Eric.
00:12:35
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Yeah. That was of your early ones. First Christopher Nolan movie, right? for the Yeah. That was his first one. yep the first one yeah we did it we did on the pod that we covered though i would like to do oppenheimer of course love yep ah inception i know eric's running around dark knight we'll see if we do that one uh we'll see inception i would like to do inception i would love to even dunkirk yeah as well dark knight if we do it i would like to do all three maybe we'll do a special pod and that'd be fun yeah that'd be fun wow
00:13:08
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wow I'm sorry. That was a lot. shocked Um, I honestly, people, I am trying to over explain so that like, hopefully it gets a across.
00:13:19
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I, you know, just so people aren't like, Oh, you're out of your mind, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:25
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Yeah, ah well, even though it's it's Nolan, it's huge. um It's kind of everywhere. I found this one on Hulu, but I think it's also on Paramount. Did you have this one or you stream it?
00:13:37
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I streamed it on ah Hulu. hulu yeah yeah And I figured it was on another streamer, but Hulu I was brought to right away. Yeah, very accessible out there. um Wow.
00:13:48
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Yeah, still still in shock. Want to get into it then? Let's do it. This is one of my little nitpicks that I'd like to get out of the way right away. Oh, wow.
00:13:58
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I don't...
Documentary-style Opening Discussion
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ah like I mixed. It's not like a full negative. like I didn't remove.1. I think it it balanced out with the end. But I'm not a huge fan of the opening um documentary footage thing.
00:14:14
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like It just feels a little weird. I think it it pays off once you get to the end. But it almost pays off to just a neutral meh. I didn't wasn't a huge fan of that. sure um But it does bring you into...
00:14:28
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the vibe a little bit of like, I felt like I was opening a history textbook of like, yes we're back in the 1920s. You know, the Dust Bowl, which I mean, they even reference in the movie. So it's very obviously supposed to be references back to that. But it's how many years in the future. Yeah. And it's happening again.
00:14:47
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had to look this up because I don't know if they mentioned it straight in the movie, but it's like 2067, I think, is one of the same space. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Not, not too far.
00:14:58
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close to our year now yeah yeah so yeah that that was one of the things that is just yeah off the bat but um it does kind of pay off yeah kind of kind of reminded me of civil war because that's kind of not far removed from my mind because i finally checked that one out like this year even though it came out last year correct uh 2024 yeah twenty last year okay so last year yeah i finally checked it out this year um Really enjoyed it. I love Alex Garland's work. But yeah, it it did kind of start out with the documentary and a worse film also started out with the documentary Electric State.
00:15:39
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Electric State. still weren that You would not like that opening then. I don't know. ah There's something to say about watching bad movies just to be you know you know on the bandwagon and shit on something.
00:15:53
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I just don't know if I want to waste, was it like two and a half hours? It's a longer one, isn't it? little bit. I just don't know if I want to waste my time on that. I'll never get that time back. And you won't get your three hours back from interstellar.
00:16:05
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No, I won't. Thanks Andy. No, I'm just kidding. I'm really, i am glad that I checked this one out again. Yeah. Um, so did it, gotta know. Does it go up or down since your last rewatch or same since my last rewatch, I would definitely say ah ah little more up because, because with my adult brain, I can connect more to the humanity of it all.
00:16:31
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Uh, you know, human connection, human interaction. um Also, like human psychology and how we feel towards our family, especially now more grown up with and looking back on family members and like memories and stuff like that. It, it's just more impactful now that I'm older, if that makes sense.
00:16:56
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Yeah. Yeah. What did, what did you think of the through lines overall for the movie then? So
Matthew McConaughey as Cooper
00:17:02
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you said the, the family, you know, humanity aspects got to you a little bit.
00:17:07
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Were they not strong enough for you? All right. So for that, i can like kind of start with one of my huge points I have in my notes. Um, I did put down that McConaughey is right at home in this role.
00:17:23
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And I was going to ask you like, if you agreed 100% with it. Yes. He is like the epitome of dad actor. Yes. Yeah. That smooth talking man as well. He's a smooth talking dad.
00:17:36
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Yeah. um He amplifies Nolan's philosophical writing kind of. And also with that through line, like we were talking about with family bond.
00:17:48
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There's so many like hard, hard lines that go throughout this. Like, we're just here to be memories for our kids. Oh man, that it's still sticking with me right now.
00:18:00
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It's ah just stabbing the heart right, right there. 100% very very true poignant lines all throughout the movie that he's dropping. Yes. They just really stick and yeah like like that one that you said like hits really hard. I'm like well I don't have kids yet but it's one of those things where like yeah once you're an adult ah like you know as someone who has parents of course. Right. You know you're looking at them and you're like Yeah, I like their people to you and you care about them, but they most likely will pass before you and they're they're just mostly memories for most of your life.
00:18:35
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Can I look through their eyes while they're looking at me? Mm hmm. Kind of, you know, how how um how am I in their lens? Exactly. Yeah. You got to kind of try and connect that. Right.
00:18:47
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Yeah. And I've always gravitated towards single dad dynamics
Cooper’s Relationship with His Children
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with their kids. Obviously, I'm i'm not a single father and neither was my own dad.
00:18:58
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Because that for me is part of escapism with films, though. I get to get a glimpse into other dynamics between people that I've never experienced in my own life.
00:19:09
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um What I love about Cooper is that his role in the story is not highlighted by shortcomings like most single father stories, but instead it's that heroic journey.
00:19:22
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He cares deeply about his children, wants to give them a future and willing to make sacrifices for that. And he stands up for them. It's so admirable.
00:19:34
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And I can only hope to carry these lessons i get from fictional dads and my own family to pass to my children and be the best i can be. One big knock, though.
00:19:47
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And this is why I'm going to just bring up the knock towards it because it is a big through line with how much a father loves his children. Cooper basically favors Murph and there's no competition.
00:20:03
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Tom is basically pushed off to the side. ye And I'd say that's going against that theme and weakens it. Actually, if, if it's true for one thing, it should be true for another.
00:20:15
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If his love for Murph is true, it should be true for Tom as well, no matter what. Yeah. um i i agree with you on that. I think he ah Tom definitely gets thrown away, especially once we get to the you know the final age.
00:20:31
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um He's not even there. No spoilers, by the way. Yep. He doesn't die. We don't know. We just don't. He's gone. Yep. Just off. But, but with that, I justified it in my mind.
00:20:43
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i do have a lot of scenes with McConaughey and Tom where Cooper and Tom. ah where they do have this special bonding that I understand is, you know, someone who's a son to a father, um where it's this almost this gruff, like you don't need to say anything. You don't need to express the emotion.
00:21:05
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You just, you got to do what you got to for your family. And Tom understands that. um And he knows that he has to take care of Murph now, take care of ah Donald.
00:21:17
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John's gone, yep. uh their their um what the father-in-law yes think yeah to math yep to um cooper's character um so their grandpa and like him keeping the the farmhouse and like he didn't have the smarts to ever do anything bigger with his life than being a farmer uh we like hear that right from the start and uh i think I don't know.
00:21:45
Speaker
Like, uh, I feel, I feel like they had a healthy relationship. I really do. Like even, seeing the, the spacecraft things, like we get the messages later that, uh, I definitely want to go more in depth about, but, um, uh, Tom sends like three different messages to, to Cooper while he's there and stuff. And he, like, he actually cares and,
00:22:09
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I feel like they had a healthy relationship. There's just, it's that, that father something it's never as close as father daughter. It's just different. Very fair. i definitely get what you're saying. um And I can, I can see that same perspective through plenty of sons eyes about their father.
00:22:27
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um Me personally, my personality is quite a bit from my dad and he isn't afraid to show the things that I also am not afraid to show. We are, we're both pretty sensitive men can say that. Uh, but it is really nice to see the vulnerability in my dad because I've, I've never really latched onto or connected to men that are they think the only way to be is like that, you know, very just no emotion.
00:23:08
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Can't show anything. It's human. um So with with me, I can understand why my perspective is different from other people is what I'm trying to get at.
00:23:20
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um that That is just my perspective. that's That's my life. So like, yeah, that's kind of just how I see that. Yeah. And I wanted i wanted more.
00:23:31
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um And like they're there wasn't even the underlying things, even though it wasn't said between characters, they there wasn't enough of the underlying like, oh,
00:23:42
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Cooper has Tom on his mind. It was always Murph. That's what I'm trying to say. Because with very good storytelling, you can convey that without dialogue.
00:23:54
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I don't think this movie attempts it. Yeah, i I think they definitely for story purposes probably felt they need to favor. There was so much very fair and I'm just only speaking on that fine that family dynamic yeah and hey, if there was more of that less of the space science stuff, maybe this would be more of a movie for me.
Director’s Cut Suggestion for Interstellar
00:24:17
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I do think, I don't say this often, this movie could do with director's cut you know a little bit longer. i I could agree. 15, 20 more minutes of characterization could have cleared up a lot of things. Like you said, your story bumps that you're coming up against. And I've listened to other pods where people also like, you know, there are some falters in the storyline and what what they choose to show in the movie.
00:24:44
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So yeah, maybe that could clear it up, right? Yeah. And yeah, a lot of my fault is with the ending and some of the personalization there for relationships. But I think, yeah, you know, 10, 15 minutes of scenes interspersed could, you know, add more to that, add more to Tom's relationship with Cooper, add more Cooper's with.
00:25:04
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Everyone else. I for sure agree with you because like I did hear like a real life story and I'm not sure if it's like totally true, but apparently on House of Cinema's podcast, I just checked out their pod on Interstellar as well since it was released to IMAX. But unfortunately, you're out of the country still.
00:25:22
Speaker
Really? when Yes. Like just recently? it came back 10 years later. Wow. Wow. Okay. We didn't even mention that at the top of the pod. I should have. But yes, me being in America, i was aware of that. You weren't.
00:25:34
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And i'm I'm so sorry for that, buddy. But yes. Yeah. They brought it back to IMAX. Yeah. but they did cover it because of that. And they were mentioning how Timothee Chalamet was in an interview and he mentioned that he was actually kind of saddened By watching Interstellar in the theater for the first time, like his first big role on the big screen, because you he thought during those video messages between him and Cooper that the camera would be showing more of Timothy's face.
00:26:11
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But it was all on Cooper the whole time. And you could just hear the voice mostly. Yeah. It wasn't even Chalamet. It was, you know, the... Older version of the child. And then, yes. And then when they got to, yeah Casey yeah Affleck and stuff. But yeah, Timothy was bummed by that. So I'm going to take that and just say that's what the movie was also conveying, wasn't it?
00:26:36
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Yeah. you know, that it's focused on Cooper. Yeah. So again, Tom's character is kind of weakened there as well I feel if that makes sense thinking about more to the the real emotional crux of the scene and is definitely um Murph's tape at the end yes I can see where yeah Tom got pushed to the wayside Yeah, yeah so yeah. And they just, House of Cinema brought up very good points that I was like, wow, okay, you guys are, yeah, you hear me, you know? Yeah.
00:27:10
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ah And I'm not going to harp on it too much. It's just that, like, those are things I mostly connect to. And if that's not... complete for me in a movie then how can i connect to it fully yeah right yeah yeah you know i i think i get along well enough with the murph cooper stuff that i've kind of put a lot that out of my mind totally fair their relationship is fair so strong oh it's beautiful it is i can i can forgive a little bit of the other stuff oh definitely and yeah okay we can we can move on from that point i was going to mention though uh
00:27:44
Speaker
There are memorable opening shots of the film. Like it has to be up there with the, like, as soon as we open on the movie, when we're in Murph's room and the dust is like slowly falling on the bookcase and it kind of all foreshadows what's going happen at the end in Murph's room as well. Like, you know, um spoilers for a movie that came out 10 years ago, people. ah Spoiler, spoiler, spoiler.
00:28:13
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yeah, with cooper being revealed as her ghost you know i just i love that bookcase shot with the dust just slowly falling and it shows what's going on in the world and also there's like a spacecraft just chilling there so like i just like that it kind of encapsulates the movie in a way in a shot yeah i don't know yeah that that room is very important for this yes yeah definitely i
00:28:44
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i want I want to say on Murph as well, for one, cool name, even though she might not like the the reason behind it. Murphy's Law? Yeah. yeah um I thought all three iterations of Murph were really good.
00:28:55
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I especially like Jessica Chastain a lot. Oh, she blows it out of the water. She did great. and Mackenzie Foy is the the child Murph too. Just amazing. Yeah, she did really well.
00:29:06
Speaker
I've seen her in quite a few stuff, a few movies and all good. Like this is just a stellar cast. And ah one question I do have for you is, were you aware of Damon's role in this before you watched it?
00:29:18
Speaker
Totally not. No. Was a surprise for you? He was a surprise. And i before watching interstellar, I know for a fact that one of my favorite movies was the departed.
00:29:31
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And Matt Damon has a huge role in that. Even if I did not see, yes, people will be shocked at this as well. I didn't see the, any born movie until two years ago.
00:29:44
Speaker
I watched the first one. see them Okay. so wow People are not going to credit us with knowing movies, man. Um, yeah, ah We do, guys. We do. We just haven't checked out some. okay um And it's our age.
00:29:56
Speaker
But i I know I loved Matt Damon. and I knew who he was. So I'm very shocked that I didn't know anything. Because my performers that I grabbed onto when I was a kid, i would make cast lists on notebook paper, stuff like that, of everything I loved.
00:30:15
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So I would have been aware of him. They very intentionally kept him out of this. They did exactly all the promo material, everything leading up. Yeah. um I think even announcing that he had a role when they did ah was like, it's a very minor thing or something cameo or something, but he's actually got a pretty decently prominent role in the story of this.
00:30:35
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And we know why. Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. oh man. I love him. i Whenever there's a global event, know, I wanted to say, too, I always appreciate a film for grabbing my hand and leading me into the water a bit by slowly introducing the state of things patiently. Yeah.
00:30:57
Speaker
And Interstellar does that. Showing interviews, blasting back to the past, along with Cooper's nightmare, too, to open up things. that That's a nice way to start the adventure, too, is what I wanted to know mention about the beginning.
00:31:13
Speaker
with him flying the ship yes yes and it's yeah kind of like shaken violently and it's very loud and yeah you're already kind of like your heart already skips a beat starting out.
00:31:25
Speaker
I, I like that. We get a little characterization of him as an expert pilot. I don't, the only thing on that scene though, is it's like almost a one for one later.
00:31:36
Speaker
i think it's the same ship. ah And so I'm like, ah that just feels like a repeat scene. You're kind of right. Cause they all show like the exact same shot when I think they're leaving the water planet.
00:31:48
Speaker
you're right oh man and so was like ah so is that just a flash forward is that actually a different memory or like okay so that kind of muddies the waters a bit yeah yeah get you there but i would yeah i do like the characterization that he's like an expert pilot but we didn't need all this lots of setup for it it was just fair he's you're the best pilot we know we need you on this mission yep Very fascinating, putting us in a world where a Dust Bowl is happening constantly when we're so far removed from the actual Dust Bowl during the 30s. Do you think this is how it would go down if it were to happen like now?
00:32:29
Speaker
I...
Realism of Interstellar’s Earth Future
00:32:30
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Yeah, I found a lot of realism in this, ah like especially with the governmental parts. like We're still going to fund NASA, we're just not going to tell people we're funding NASA. ah Because understandably, that's going to cause you know global panic. An uproar.
00:32:46
Speaker
When you're not putting it towards food and your farmers. The essentials. When this kind of thing is happening. especially when you've got such a national bias, kind of like the Murph's teacher talking about the moon landing being faked and all that. and Yes.
00:33:02
Speaker
Us wasting money fighting Russia on the space race, which you know a lot of people agree with. oh But there's a purpose to it. I mean, oh it's it's pretty divided in the world where um i I got to find the exact quote, but...
00:33:18
Speaker
ah We used to look up at the sky and wonder at our place in the stars. Now we just look down and worry about our place in the dirt. Like that was perfect line of the movie. wow Wow. Yes.
00:33:29
Speaker
Characterized McConaughey Cooper is a, is a character um characterizing the world that interstellar takes place in. Yeah. Like was imagining it is some McConaughey in 2067 in interstellar here is our generation right now.
00:33:47
Speaker
Like, the zoomers millennials um we'd be you know mcconaughey's age then very true um so like or sorry our kids i think would be mcconaughey's age i don't know somewhere around that whatever age he is but we'd be times weird we'd be closer to to donald's age age i think to his dad um because his dad i think would have grown up in the ninety s and 80s Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:34:15
Speaker
I think is what I was thinking. John Lithgow's character. Yeah. Because he's like, you know, inventions used to come out every day and stuff. And there used to be, you know, a new device every every day. And I'm like, yeah, that's pretty accurate right now for Kind of feels like now. like Yeah, definitely.
00:34:31
Speaker
And I can just imagine us becoming this very cynical character like John Lithgow when you get older. like Well, shit, we had all this amazing stuff and now the world just went to shit.
00:34:43
Speaker
um But you've got Cooper, the generation after us, that's just still hopeful, like the last generation to grow up with um with space. The people who are kids right now in our world that are seeing um like the Artemis missions, they're going back to the moon and stuff like that. Right.
00:34:59
Speaker
Right. China going to the moon and everything and Musk, Mars and all the space stuff that's going on right now. SpaceX. So like it felt super poignant and like almost predicting of our reinvigoration of space right now in 2025.
00:35:17
Speaker
um For Cooper having growing up, he would have grown up in this world with experiencing that and then everyone losing it because we had to focus on something else.
00:35:28
Speaker
Sorry, so that was a long rant to say that like I felt like these felt like super real characters that actually lived in our time now, um even though this movie was before 2025, of course, but I love that you said all of that because that it it added a bit for me.
00:35:45
Speaker
Honestly, like positively. um Yeah, I do really enjoy that you said that because I was kind of looking at how their demeanors were as characters, because in the beginning there, they do have a couple sit downs, him and ah Cooper and John Lithgow's character, his father in law.
00:36:04
Speaker
And it's very interesting hearing man to man, especially not being cooper's biological father a father-in-law i'm i'm more interested in that actually that dynamic um with john lithgow's daughter is gone but he still has the person she married yeah kind of weird you know like if you think about it um it's like in this in this broken world that they're living in you kind of have to you gotta help each other out right yeah and figure it out like
00:36:35
Speaker
on the way um and i was just interested in their philosophies as individuals and you i think you hit it spot on there uh and two kind of goes with the point where it really depends on um how environmentally aware you are as well and like you know how you stand on that and those things nowadays um
00:37:06
Speaker
I almost think I i would probably be cynical, but hopeful because I'm an optimist in... nature but i could also look back and say the same thing as john lithgow and say we had all of it yeah and we did this it's super easy we did this to our earth yes yeah 40 years from now if we're having dust bowls and stuff or you're like we're ruining it well i remember when i was 20 in my 20s and you know trying to do my part okay world just didn't care
00:37:40
Speaker
yeah yeah taking care of the earth right yeah in general and i'm not really gonna dive too far into that because could do a whole topic episode on that but yeah so uh getting back to kind of the start as well i think the cornfield farmhouse is an amazing setting for our start um Nolan actually grew all the corn for the movie, which I really love. I've always seen in any like movie fact, yeah, this always pops up. It's like the number one fact.
00:38:13
Speaker
Such a cool thing. like It is. just It is. Something he didn't have to do that just adds so much depth to the world that they live in there. And it wasn't a waste either. It was useful. They actually used the corn that grew. Yeah, I think they donated or something. There you go. Like, yeah.
00:38:29
Speaker
I mean... a great thing for a piece of art too. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, giving me the family dynamic off the jump though. Like, thank you, Christopher Nolan.
00:38:42
Speaker
I'm already bought into this one because they're all very comfortable around each other. You know, um, they, they feel like a family unit, even though there is that kind of divide between Cooper and his father-in-law.
00:38:57
Speaker
with being father-in-law and a son-in-law. Yeah. I mean, like, you could see John Lithgow just going off with the kids and, like, not giving a care about Cooper and, like, really staying distant, right?
00:39:11
Speaker
Both of them. But, no, there're they're all a unit, and that's nice. Yeah. Yeah, he cares about his kids, even if he fights with Cooper. Exactly. and Or his grandkids. Yes.
00:39:22
Speaker
McConaughey and Lithgow can both be my father. I've considered them family for a long while, so... I don't know. Lithgow after Dexter just does isn't the same for me. Why'd you have to bring up Trinity Killer? Come on now.
00:39:35
Speaker
Oh, no. ah My parents are going through that series right now, and they they know it's one of my favorites, and I'm so happy that they're going through it. um I actually didn't think my mom would check it out. I yeah kind of knew my dad would, but she loves thrillers, but...
00:39:51
Speaker
picky have they got to him yet because i feel like he's the best villain in the show i don't believe they have i feel like they just started season one not too long ago so there's no way they're already on so then yeah oh god uh that's is that season three yeah yes season three oh oh man i don't want to think about the end of that season either get okay all right we're going off of that Jump onto it. um You talk about the family, family, family, familiarization.
00:40:21
Speaker
How do you say that word? Familiarization. Yeah. you You get familiar with the family element um right off the bat we we're tough with this drone scene that they're chasing.
00:40:33
Speaker
And I think that's another like good world building event is yep um like these drones that I can't remember what they said the purpose was. i like I can't remember either. Some sort of monitoring thing, but yeah it's coming down because it's short surgerying circuiting. So they need to scrap it for parts and catch it. And um so it shows McConaughey's scientific prowess. He's not just a pilot.
00:40:55
Speaker
Right. He can do tech stuff. Cooper and Tom's relationship with him trusting like him to say hey jump in the driver's seat quick so I can very true go do this and then you just get all this cool family element of him having a good win right off the bat the kids being excited with him too yeah yeah I'm oh I'm with you there for sure And then it's like, shit, parent-teacher conferences.
00:41:20
Speaker
And you get this big draw. Oh, my God. look I know. yeah Like, of course, they go through like an event like this right before an event like that. Like, it's like, you got to bring us down back to the real world now. Right. Yeah. ah Oh, back to.
00:41:32
Speaker
Yeah. Back to basics. Yeah. Even though the world's kind of ending, we still got to do, you know, parent-teacher conferences, the teaching the next generation, the little things. Yeah. It's not fully over yet.
00:41:43
Speaker
Right. Right. I do know older brother slash like younger sister relationships and dynamics. I personally have a younger sister that I'm now best friends with.
00:41:56
Speaker
It for sure didn't start out that way. And we were always at odds and giving each other hell up until my senior year of high school. So I can say Murph and Tom get under my skin When going back and forth, like, is it actually like that and appear that way to outsiders?
00:42:19
Speaker
Or is this to the extreme and annoying in this film? That that's a question I kind of, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. also have a younger sister like you, and we also fought a lot growing up, as any siblings do.
00:42:35
Speaker
See, I couldn't see you fighting with anybody, so that's just strange. okay We did, both my brother and sister. um But yeah, now we're we're best friends, and best friends of both of them.
00:42:47
Speaker
Yeah. and And I like that we we kind of get that characterization with a Chastain and Affleck as well, as as the young earth the older versions as well. they understanding of their situation and you know they're closer they're just not as goofy yeah yeah that's very true just when they when they were younger in the beginning there they were like really going at each other i'm like okay do we need all of this though like you know like just the things he would say to her like he could not say one normal thing to her so yes i hope i wasn't like that yeah
00:43:24
Speaker
I don't even remember any specific ones because it's just, don't it's abnormal to me. Right? Yeah. No, definitely. And already in an opening scene with our main family, we get a big conversation between Murph and Cooper about paranormal versus science.
00:43:44
Speaker
Right here sets us up for the course of the film with talking about Murph's ghost and the importance of science. Right. Yes. Two huge components of the movie. And I really liked that it was already telegraphed right there.
00:43:58
Speaker
Yeah. I love this. I made big notes on this. Hey, all right. We're thinking here, Andy. It's like everything Nolan shows you, ah most of his movies, almost every movie, especially this one, though.
00:44:09
Speaker
Yes. It has a meaning. Yep. ah He does not add pointless nonsense it. ah yeah At least he tries not to. He cuts it down a lot. For sure. um Like this film's nearly three hours.
00:44:21
Speaker
Like I said, I could do with a little bit more, but every little thing adds to the universe and, you know, building up the ghost, like you said, building up her, cause you're going to see Murph's entire life pretty much.
00:44:34
Speaker
Like he's building the foundation of who she becomes and through these scenes. It's just, it's interesting to see. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. And you can see that bond that Cooper and Murph have compared to Cooper and Tom, kind of like what what we were getting at earlier with my kind of gripes about the family connections.
00:44:58
Speaker
But we already can kind of and we can look back when Murph hasn't sent a video message to him in a long time until that one hits when she's older.
00:45:12
Speaker
Yeah. It's the only one she sends to him. Right? Yeah. So like even these beginning scenes are setting that part up. One of the most... um crucial like emotional hits yeah that gets to you in this movie i'd say yeah you know he just all sudden sees her all grown up and why is that because they were so close to begin with she did not want him to leave he left yeah i'm kind of paraphrasing here but you know what i'm saying it kind of just it all comes together i appreciate that i appreciate the writing for sure with all that stuff i do
00:45:53
Speaker
I can say positive things about this film, Andy. While still hating it. yeah I don't hate it. It's half. But. He half hates it.
00:46:05
Speaker
I half hates it. I like. um Can we talk about the parent-teacher conference a little bit? um This is one of my favorite scenes in the movie, more for the comedic element than the actual, like, there's good story building and universe building here, too, but um because you get to find out about the history of the world.
00:46:25
Speaker
Yes. um But like the the conversation with ah the principal's okay, or with Tom's teacher, he's like, yep, he's going to be farmer. But then you get to Murph's teacher and she's like, she keeps bringing these old textbooks and she talked about the moon. And I'm like, you don't believe we went to the moon?
00:46:44
Speaker
And you know, you're you're supposed to dislike this character. At least most people are reasonably probably disliking this character. Yeah. Except the, you know, the people that don't think we went to the moon. The conspiracy theories. Yeah.
00:46:57
Speaker
And then like when you jump back out with McConaughey back in the truck with Murph, like how'd go? You're like, well, I got you suspended. Oh my God. i loved that. That was a great ending to that whole sequence. Yeah. Yes. But they, um but he kind of like pulls one on the teacher about the punishment thing too. And like, it's just perfect comedic stuff right to get through there.
00:47:23
Speaker
I was going to say, i love that little quip from Cooper to the school employee about waist size compared to intellectual scores and how one number doesn't decide a future
Cooper's Key Character Traits
00:47:33
Speaker
for his son. That perfect writing there. And like that too, it's like, Hey, you got a point that makes sense to me.
00:47:40
Speaker
Like, That's great as a comeback. I like to say something like that. Yeah. Not just defending his daughter, but defending his son as well. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, yeah and that's why I mentioned earlier that like, he is a single father that will defend his children to no end.
00:47:55
Speaker
um And like, along with this, parent teacher conference and kind of learning how the world is it's really fucked up how everyday life is now for the working class with not having enough room in universities and being relegated to just being a farmer if your scores aren't high like that's so unfortunate that there's just those baskets now and
00:48:26
Speaker
Farmers are so essential like now and you know there's a Hopefully, i don't really know the job market. All right. I haven't like research, but I would hope it's more balanced than it is in this present.
00:48:42
Speaker
It's like you're there in the the hopeful category or you're going to be a super scientist. Exactly. Goes to save us or you're going to be in you're supporting everyone else category. Right.
00:48:52
Speaker
Or you're the in the masses that's supporting the smart people. Yes. Yes. yeah Yeah. So you get what I'm saying. Yeah. It's just such a weird thought. Yeah. That this movie brings up.
00:49:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:06
Speaker
ah Going back to Cooper and Murph, just kind of wanted to touch
Focus on Cooper’s Relationship with Murph
00:49:10
Speaker
on that. We could like talk endlessly about their relationship, but just one point that i had in my notes here, Cooper and Murph, like their relationship is so endearing.
00:49:23
Speaker
And how she looks up to him and is his little mini-me buddy is so admirable. If this was a different writer-director, I do feel it would have been Tom in Murph's Place.
00:49:38
Speaker
ah You know, kind of just an easier thing to do with a father-son. relationship maybe like you know the son growing up to be just like his father right but but we have the daughter in that place you know it's just it's more interesting and more dynamic and just something about a father daughter duo hope one day my children and i can be that way don't know you know it's it's really nice to see yeah i think they I think they both do grow up to be just like Cooper.
00:50:10
Speaker
They're just two different halves of him. Like, you got Murph, who's his science half. he's the one She's the one that is a representation of Cooper, you know, doing what he wants to do, doing the space stuff, getting to save people, and you know being a hero.
00:50:24
Speaker
Whereas you have Tom and Tom's doing the hard thing to survive and um you know being the farmer and stuff like that. Something that Cooper hates, but he still did. Anyways, he was a farmer for a while.
00:50:36
Speaker
Very fair. Yeah, very true. Yep.
00:50:41
Speaker
ah Can we continue chronologically to NASA once we get to there? Yeah. right If we jump there? Yeah, yeah, you go ahead. So I really love this reveal.
00:50:52
Speaker
okay I feel like it's not like for one, we get introduced to the I don't know what the models are called, but you know whatever TARS in case are. the little robot things yes um is these former marine personalities or whatever they said they are yep um don't know they're ai or whatever they don't go too in depth into them but um you introduce to those then get this conference room meeting where you get you get to meet the whole crew that we're going to be flying with and then you get the reveal or nasa
00:51:25
Speaker
And it's just one of the, don't know, it's one of the coolest reveals for me. It's not like like anything groundbreaking or anything, but it's just like, oh, we're home in space.
00:51:36
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like away from this dirt land of an earth. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And TARS, very awesome creative robot companion to have.
00:51:50
Speaker
Like very cool character. design And instead of having R2 and C-3PO, like, you know, two different droids, there they're kind of morphed into one thing into TARS, though, as well.
00:52:05
Speaker
um It's almost essential to have a robot companion with the sci-fi expedition. Yeah. Didn't know TARS was used as a military robot until like this this rewatch.
00:52:20
Speaker
So I'm glad I caught it this time. And I also forgot the humor settings. Yeah. And that I'd also give TARS 100% on that. I love TARS. ah Case isn't that funny. I think his humor setting is a lot lower.
00:52:36
Speaker
Yes. But TARS is like perfect. um He's a great comedic relief throughout a very somber film once you get into some little later ah parts of it.
00:52:49
Speaker
Yes. And especially like we, we jump really fast after we, we meet NASA and like conversations start happening. There was no, there's no train up period. It's just, no, we're going now. You just infer that the train up happened.
00:53:02
Speaker
Yeah. Um, It's like, well, we're going to space now. Goodbye, Murph. We just spent like you're probably like half an hour and now we're almost in this film already. Right. And now you're you're saying goodbye to a couple of the characters.
00:53:15
Speaker
um Or Cooper is. It's just super sad. like i i tear up at this scene, honestly. Yeah? like Him saying goodbye to Murph.
00:53:26
Speaker
McConaughey's acting is just on point throughout this. my God. As well as Foy's child Murph there. um like and like the icing on the cake when i like really start tearing up is when she runs out at the end she's like fuck like i'm mad at him but i need to say goodbye like she realizes that um and she doesn't get that chance the goodbye between murph and cooper like i i'm getting emotional just thinking about it ah props to you chris for nolan making me feel things
00:53:59
Speaker
i I just can't out imagine how difficult that is, especially not knowing when you're coming back. Or if you're coming back. Yes, but like the best heroes, he knows he has to.
00:54:15
Speaker
and i always see that image of cooper holding murph real tight from the side whenever this film is like brought up like if there's just one image from interstellar it's that where he's holding her and oh really know they're both crying um it's so sweet and devastating in just that one frame and it says so much yeah like yeah yeah that that's what i love like oh if there's a shot boom It's not even getting into all like the other little heartstrings that they're pulling with the, him sending the message that just gets better on rewatches of stay. It says stay dad.
00:54:48
Speaker
Yup. And then, um, uh, fuck it. As Cooper's driving away, he looks in the floorboards again to see if Murph's going to pop up there. Like, it's just a little thing of him pushing the blanket away. And I'm like, Oh yeah, he's really hoping that she would say goodbye to him.
00:55:03
Speaker
I know. Oh my God. Like I, I love this. Poor Tom. It's just, you know, take care of the family. I got it, Dad.
00:55:14
Speaker
You got this, right? The setup, also, the setup for the expedition, it's very expositional, but the way the very talky explanations are handed to us is very easily consumable, actually.
00:55:30
Speaker
That's what many stories and movies get wrong and a lot of hand-holding occurs in a negative way. Nolan, we get it. You're smarter than everyone.
00:55:41
Speaker
But i appreciate how you wrote Interstellar compared to Tenet. I like that. Yeah. i yes, he how do you say Like, yeah, he held your hand, but not to the point where they're breaking things down to a child level. Like it's right.
00:55:57
Speaker
Like, yep. This is the mission we got to go do. And yep. We're setting it up. Yes. Yeah. But it's also not leaving completely in the dust, like tenant of just, right.
00:56:07
Speaker
We hope you figure it out. Yeah. Good luck. Here it is. Audience. All right. While Professor Brand is trying to recruit recruit Cooper, there's a sense of mystery that carries throughout the entire film until the reveal, as well as fascinating science being discussed.
Scientific Concepts and Mysteries in Interstellar
00:56:27
Speaker
Like plan A and plan B, they were so intriguing when they laid it out. And i'd love the dialogue throughout when Murph and Cooper arrive at the secret facility as well, like, or, you know, within NASA and all the conversations going about it's, it's not like, Oh my God, I'm still totally lost. Like what is going on here? It's just like, here's what's going on.
00:56:50
Speaker
Here you go. Like it was very well laid out. And Frickin' Christopher Nolan, he just had to sneak his Michael Caine right in one one of his movies again.
00:57:02
Speaker
love Michael Caine, though. He's so good at his his role here. Yes. His older Dr. Brand. um Yes. There's a lot of good threads, both sci-fi and like story-wise, that I like pulling on from this NASA facility like before we take off.
00:57:20
Speaker
Like, the... Well, for one, like little bit of jumping into the end, but both plans end up working. Both plan A and B end up being things that happen. um But we'll we'll get to more than that at the end.
00:57:34
Speaker
And then you got the ghost thing. um that people are like acknowledging like there's this weird way that you figured out the coordinates to our facility there's some sort of ghosts that want to help us out and people in the scientific community are just acknowledging this yes there's some weird entity out there like we're an arrival or something yeah um and then we're just like we don't we can't explain it but we appreciated the help um and then and then you've got the gravity equation that um michael kane's working on that he knows is fruitless um at least to him at this current point yeah but he's like he's there's this big moral question of
00:58:17
Speaker
is what he's doing right like giving hope to humanity but at the same time there's no hope with what he's doing at least right like he's just leading people in circles to keep them busy yes actually that that brings me to one of my questions in my notes for you yeah and you don't have to have a concrete answer we can kind of discuss a bit But what do you think of that whole moral quandary there of the movie with protecting or saving the people of Earth presently and staying to take care of the planet and its people versus providing a future for future generations that aren't even alive yet and leaving the planet for that hope?
00:59:07
Speaker
Like, what do you think of that? I think. It's a really hard decision. And it's crazy that it comes down to, I'm sure there's more in the community than new.
00:59:18
Speaker
Of course, the president or something is probably signing off on this thing. But um that Michael Caine's got all this burden resting on his shoulders. making this insane decision of like, well, we're doomed.
00:59:32
Speaker
Do we at least save our species and continue that on, even though we're all dying? And then like, yeah, do you tell people that we're all fucked?
00:59:42
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um
00:59:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's, it's so difficult. Like you get to Damon scenes later and stuff and Damon knew about it. So at least there there's some in the community that knew.
00:59:56
Speaker
And so it's, yeah, it's this crazy thing that you hope you never have to deal with in your life. If someone ever has to make that decision that, I know, you hope you're on the right side of it.
01:00:09
Speaker
Right. Yeah. But also, like, I understand both sides. Like, I would understand people getting pissed that um you've doomed us by running us in circles instead of looking for other options.
01:00:22
Speaker
like you've accepted our doom for us but also on the other hand he's looking so far ahead for the future of humanity that like how can you really put that against him it's a difficult one it is yep yeah and that's why i did not need you to give a concrete answer it was just i kind of wanted to get your thoughts on that i was just i'm really interested in what everyone kind of thinks and bounces around in their head about it you know yeah it's it's just one of those decisions you hope you never have to make in your life yes oh it it's just one of the impossible yeah it's good thing i'm i'm bad at science oh thank god yeah never put me in his fucking position that's for sure oh my god but yeah no thank you thank you for answering that okay yeah i just want to know that what about you do you would you have a preference on decision there
01:01:17
Speaker
i I'm actually like totally with you. and Anything I would say would kind of correlate with what you're saying there. um
01:01:27
Speaker
It's just, yeah, it's kind of impossible. Like, you know, i do you take full advantage and um mean,
01:01:40
Speaker
kind of to generalize it, live in the moment? Mm-hmm. Or do you look super forward? Yeah, it's a very tough thing. Like with my with my own philosophy in life is take one day at a time, make the most every day.
01:01:59
Speaker
it It's just very tough. I only know that for myself, you know, but as well as like, obviously I'm married and you know, like we, we share that together and stuff like that. It's just, yeah.
01:02:12
Speaker
Yeah. I could not decide for the whole of humanity. No, please do not hand that to me. Oh my God. I'll make sure I put your name in the pot if that ever comes up. Oh, thank you so much, Andy.
01:02:26
Speaker
I knew you could be a good buddy and do that for me. Just for hating this movie. what your name yeah
01:02:33
Speaker
I really like the the science stuff of the endurance.
Endurance Spaceship Design
01:02:39
Speaker
like It reminds me so much of like the old alien ah from the 80s. The spaceship inside there, like all the buttons look so retro. yeah Yes.
01:02:48
Speaker
It looks so modern, what I'd imagine 2067 spacecraft would look like. Very forward as well, though. Yeah. It's ah that retrofuturism. Yep. That's exactly what I had down there. There we go. yeah Yep. Yep.
01:03:02
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Yeah, I get you. Yeah, I like that it kind of calls back to that. And I'm sure Interstellar obviously is pulling from a bunch of different movies like that and a bunch of different movies that make up sci fi and have made that platform very solid.
01:03:18
Speaker
Yeah, probably pulling from like 2001, A Space Odyssey, everything like that. Big thing. Just like Alien and Aliens. and Especially when you get those big sweeping um shots of space yeah in the in the ships when it's quiet. I'm like, yep, that's Space Odyssey.
01:03:33
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, for sure. Still haven't seen it. Yeah. This has done better, though. um Of course. I mean, there's a lot more going on in there, Stellar. Sure. Sure. um but But with the the scientific design too, like like a set of Case case and TARS, like such a unique wave depicting a robot.
01:03:54
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like Of course, we had to have you know a robot companion for our ships, like you said. There's always sci-fi robot companion. But once you get to that water planet, you see like his multi-use, the faster version.
01:04:05
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Yes. He gets to start rolling and you're like, oh, they actually do have, you know, practical uses other than just sitting in the ship. And oh, that's why this was a military robot. Yeah. Right.
01:04:16
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Yeah, definitely. i like those um those reveals kind of to us like, oh, boy. All right. Like this was in his back pocket the whole time. More modes. so Yeah. Right. And I was going to say quick, too, once once the team is in the shuttle and we're journeying into the great unknown, I think I finally realized what I brush up on a little bit. I mean, I don't totally have it formed in my head, but this kind of the best that I got.
01:04:44
Speaker
um But like, you know, dealing with adventures in space and film. The element that Interstellar uses with space travel is loneliness and Cooper living in that as his kids grow older, despite having the company that he has, like, you know, Anne Hathaway's character and um those guys.
01:05:07
Speaker
For me, the most intriguing and fascinating stories in film have taken place on Earth. Yeah. I've experienced loneliness in my own life and here grounded on earth.
01:05:21
Speaker
You know, I don't, I don't need space to use that metaphor. i get that it can be used, but you know, just more me relating to it. And I know I do love escapism, but for some reason, space is not a environment I love to escape to, I guess.
01:05:43
Speaker
Um, I just think that I lock in when those events take place like on earth compared to an astronaut floating out in space, going back to the metaphors, like using space as a metaphor and literally you're a great distance away from what, you know, the way it's translated onto to film and what I watch, like the space part just doesn't capture me. Like,
01:06:16
Speaker
Like stories like that taking place on earth. If that makes sense. Yeah. At all. I disagree, but I get you.
01:06:27
Speaker
Here we go. Anne Hathaway is another hazardous opinion I'd like to discuss. Oh no. You don't like it in Hathaway. I can understand. She's and awesome performer.
01:06:41
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to others, one of people's favorites. um I've grown up with her, Ellen Chanted, Princess Diaries, you name it.
01:06:52
Speaker
Now, when I'm more focused on performers and like what they do, i just don't find her super fascinating. And I don't gravitate towards her.
01:07:06
Speaker
And she might be ah an amazing, lovely person. i just... it She... I don't dislike her. But for... Like, I don't understand...
01:07:18
Speaker
people like putting her way, way up there and that she's a pole, you know? Yeah. I, I admittedly don't have like a huge, um, knowledge of her cinematography, just some of the more basic things and some of her voicing roles.
01:07:33
Speaker
Sure. But don't know. I've always liked her in what she is in. But yeah, I agree with you. I don't know if she's you know the top tier. i like I wouldn't put her in McConaughey's bracket.
01:07:47
Speaker
um Probably closer down to... don't even know where she'd be. ah Like McConaughey and may she'd probably be in like Lithgow's bracket for me, I think.
01:07:58
Speaker
Oh, sure. Lithgow is like a big actor to me. I really love him and everything's in, but he's not like, he's no A-tier actor. like Like he's he's got really good acting chops, but I'm going to try to phrase this. Like he's not, he's never going to be your front man.
01:08:13
Speaker
ah Sure. Yeah. Okay. Okay. like yeah we I probably would never put her as a, you know, as the front man either. in in a movie unless it's I don't probably like a romance or a kids movie well she was front for love and other drugs with my boy Jake and I watched it just because of Jake and yeah I i don't know didn't that though That's the thing. i just, I don't um enjoy her performances, but I'm sure other people do.
01:08:46
Speaker
that's That's all I can answer to that, honestly. Like, you know, I'm not going to say she was bad because she wasn't. I just, I wasn't drawn. I thought she she was good here. i really liked her performance.
01:08:58
Speaker
I just think it's more on the writing side for me that I don't like her character here. Or not. Sorry. I do like her character. i don't like that she doesn't get enough enough depth.
01:09:09
Speaker
Fair. And Nolan has had an issue with his leading lady characters. Sometimes that's some, yeah something a bunch of people brush up on.
01:09:21
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Cause that's one of my, like my ending things that I really have problem with is Cooper and brand's relationship. I don't think there's anything there. And yet he's going to leave his daughter who he just reunited with to fly all the way back to live with the brand.
01:09:38
Speaker
I'm like, I don't get that. Just live out your days with your daughter. Right. Yeah. i I don't know. um And like, OK, that brings up one of my other questions i was going to ask you. What do you think of the messaging themes of the movie being presented in such an obvious handholding scene, though, with Hathaway's brand speaking right into the camera with her big monologue?
01:10:06
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I did like that scene of her and the, it gave her some characterization that obviously she has some really deeply held principles about, emotion.
01:10:18
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I did.
01:10:21
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She, of course, I think to Romilly and Cooper as well, lost some science points for that. Um, I was like, Well, I'm glad that you admitted that you're taking emotions into account here, but this is a ah ah space mission um for space. And i would also have gone with Cooper and Romilly and be like,
01:10:44
Speaker
yeah know we yeah, we're going to disregard your love. We got to go to whatever the day is better at. sure Ultimately, that ended up being a lie with Damon. But like, if it hadn't been and they went to Wolf's instead and his end up being a bad planet, like the water planet, like it would have been really bad end.
01:11:06
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, no kidding. Yeah, for sure. And I kind of wanted to know like what you kind of thought about Her kind of like saying the message of the movie, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. yeah I, I thought it was in line with her character. She has a lot of subtleties where you can tell she cares deeply ah about Wolf and they like, they bring it up a couple times.
01:11:30
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Um, Yeah, and I think even though Cooper's disregarding everything she's saying, he is also taking that in and he's remembering it for later.
01:11:43
Speaker
And it's his through line as well. it This is all for love, even if he's not admitting it as much. I don't know. I liked it.
01:11:56
Speaker
Good answer. Okay. No, for sure. Gotcha. Gotcha.
01:12:01
Speaker
It works for me. I'm guessing you didn't like her monologue.
01:12:05
Speaker
Well done, monologue. Actually, i just... um Kind of with me mentioning the hand-holding, I i don't yeah really... I don't love hand-holding. i i like to feel that.
01:12:18
Speaker
I like to feel that message, not be not hear it from the character. like Yeah. Straight off. you I wish the wording was a bit different or something, where it was... um A little more subtle, but it was kind of in your face where it's like, all right, here's what you're supposed to be feeling.
01:12:38
Speaker
But I've been feeling these things like let me, you know? Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah, I get you. um Yeah. Less monologue and more.
01:12:50
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More just raw emotion. Right. Speaking of raw emotion, we do get back from the water planet, which is the best fucking planet, by the
Time Dilation in Interstellar
01:13:01
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way.
01:13:01
Speaker
Yeah. It should have just stayed there forever, surfing waves. Sure. um Surfboard. I love the whole time dilation thing. i could get into that whole nother pod just on the, you know, the science aspects of that. Time's super interesting to play with.
01:13:16
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. um So I won't go super into depth in that, but just know that that's one of my favorite parts of the film is the whole time dilation thing with the black holes. Yeah, that's a big draw for people for this film.
01:13:27
Speaker
Yeah. And so we we get back to the ship after we lose Doyle and they're catching up on all these video messages and you're like, oh, like you can tell before they even start playing that we're to some emotional scenes here.
01:13:41
Speaker
Like because they say what he was gone for 23 years, I think. Something like that. It was a big chunk the first time. Yeah. they Come back from the water planet. It was way more years than they were expecting.
01:13:54
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It was like several decades worth. And you're like, yep, they're going to have some video logs to catch up on. and Oh, my God. You get all these with Tom. um And then you get the big heart string puller with Murph there with Jessica Chastain.
01:14:10
Speaker
Time is so scary, yeah actually, too. that That's an effective part of this movie. Yeah. And I love that all this is real things. Like they had... um I can't remember his last name. It's like Dr. Kip something. Was there a science advisor on this? He's like an actual Nobel oh award-winning scientist guy.
01:14:33
Speaker
um Sorry, didn't describe that well. I sound so dumb. No, you're good. Yeah. He's science fan. There's a lot in this film, man. Yeah. does science and stuff.
01:14:44
Speaker
um Kip Thorne, Dr. Kip Thorne. is the the real life guy that they used in reference for a lot of this stuff when they're doing it. And so he helped them work a lot of this to be realistic.
01:14:58
Speaker
And like, I love all that, that this is like an actual scary thing that, you know, we could send space Rangers out there with Musk's Mars mission or whatever. And well, probably it won't happen with Mars mission, but if we send people further and get into a black hole, like they could come back a thousand years and,
01:15:16
Speaker
oh that'd be uh we'd be a whole different civilization can't think about that why'd you bring that up like you're right though yeah it's just crazy stuff happens with with time and like i love time travel as you know as well oh i do know this yeah huge time travel nerd yes um this is actually my number one film on my time travel list really yeah this okay because i i sort them by my movie ranking first and then like if there's a bunch of sevens then i sort them by what time travel things i should sort them just by time travel overall but gets little too confusing um so i do have a rating first and then it's easier to break down
01:16:01
Speaker
Okay, sure. I like your process on that. But, yeah, so Interstellar's my top one. I think I might have only eat you know and one other nine movie. I think it's Back to the Future, and Back to the Future was just so straightforward with its time travel. Yes. I like the way it does it better with this.
01:16:17
Speaker
Very fair. um So there's just so many little sci-fi threads, time travel, all the stuff that just gets me here. Yeah. um And then, you know, all the discussions of love and humanity as well.
01:16:30
Speaker
Yes. I was going to say too, i Matthew McConaughey like Cooper's eyes in this movie. Big takeaway for me. um Especially when Matthew McConaughey is crying. like It seems super real.
01:16:46
Speaker
Yeah. you know just holding his mouth after the... Yes, his eyes just convey so much. Yeah.
01:16:55
Speaker
Honestly, i could say... Next to next to True Detective season one, Matthew McConaughey's role there. Like this is his best, but I would put True Detective season one just slightly above this for sure.
01:17:14
Speaker
I watched him in Dallas Buyers Club. Have you seen that? I still haven't seen it, unfortunately. I've heard that one's like really good for him, though. That one I watched recently, and that one he's super good in. That's probably his only one, I think, that comes close for me.
01:17:29
Speaker
I haven't seen True Detective yet, so... That one's very emotional for him. Pretty sure true detective was shoot up to number one for you. Yeah. Like I'm serious. That's just, yeah. I'm not even over, over hyping it. Nothing. Like I think a lot of people really decide on that.
01:17:46
Speaker
Yeah. So I hope you watch it sometime, even if you don't watch all, uh, well now four seasons of true detective, just watch the first at least. Okay. Yeah.
01:17:57
Speaker
Did you have anything more on the water planet before we move on? I don't have a lot more. Oh, it was kind of a lot of general thoughts because I didn't gravitate towards the story, if that makes sense. And I knew you'd be.
01:18:12
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yeah
01:18:15
Speaker
Damn it. Should have had someone like that. God, that would have been good. But yeah, no, like it was more of those like huge thoughts. Yeah, I'm sorry because I think the beginning was more successful for me.
01:18:28
Speaker
If that makes sense. Yeah. um I did want to talk about Damon's Planet, um Dr. Man. His betrayal, I can't remember how it made me feel the first time through. i feel like I was surprised by it, but I've seen this movie a lot.
01:18:42
Speaker
Even before I chose this as a movie, I'd watched it last month, like actually again. Really? So i like I just love this movie. Yeah, no, that's awesome. And I was happy that you picked one of your favorites, even though like I knew wasn't super exciting for me, but I was just super excited to talk to you about it. Obviously, it's still a positive. Yeah.
01:19:03
Speaker
Yeah, I think there's different sides, though. Even even though you didn't like this, there's a lot of people that do. So I think, yes, and maybe there's people dislike it. So they'll, you know, for sure. With you. Yeah, maybe you relate to me. People out there that do.
01:19:18
Speaker
I think I might be straight out of the crazy house.
Jared's Excitement for Interstellar
01:19:21
Speaker
I don't know. i don't know if people are going to agree with me on this, but, you know, there there's a possibility. my ah My friend Jared, as we were working out before this, ah was chatting that we're going to Interstellar, and he was he actually seemed pretty excited about it. He's also a big sci-fi guy. yeah oh no so he was telling me different um facts about the movie and like stuff i didn't know and i thought that was really cool because we don't usually talk movies that much awesome yeah okay so you guys don't yeah it's like like the sci-fi stuff like just really hits for for that friend group oh my gosh all right well hopefully they don't hate me for this sorry guys apologizing in advance
01:20:01
Speaker
That's right. Yeah.
Matt Damon’s Role and Comparisons
01:20:02
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I think I think the first time I watched it, like, ah you know, all those years back, like I think the year that it came out, I want to say that I was super shocked by Matt Damon's turn.
01:20:15
Speaker
And honestly, now. That I'm growing up, like, I shouldn't have been all that surprised because, geez, he's so sinister in The Departed, actually. And I don't think a lot of people know that Matt Damon can play bad very well.
01:20:32
Speaker
again So I should have had, like, at least maybe a little more inkling, but I didn't because my brain was... at the time different you know so uh but still very good reveal i think and like keeping under i agree i think they did the reveal for this really well like it's not super hammy the way he plays it up with um whatever his robot was called yes being broken like that hint the different hints with his data things being off yeah the planet looking super dead when you get there and you're like that now looking back you're like
01:21:10
Speaker
yeah, that doesn't look livable at all, but I don't know science. Maybe it's got, it's got something that will make it work. Terraformable. Right. Right. Yeah. So you just kind of play in with the movie and you're trusting people, mean scientists. And she's talking, um, about, um, and Hathaway talks about
Dr. Mann's Character Exploration
01:21:29
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Dr. Man and how he's like one of the bravest men out there.
01:21:32
Speaker
And, you know, just all comes back and it just feels super believable to me for him as a character. It's not just a, oh, he's evil now. He's just being a fucker.
01:21:44
Speaker
Yeah. um Like, you get to the point where he's fighting McConaughey on the little cliff there, yeah and they start bonking helmets, and he's like, there's 50-50 chance you're going to kill yourself doing that.
01:21:58
Speaker
He's like, those are the best odds I've had in years. And like just Damon's whole dialogue as he's walking away from the, um, suffocating, uh, McConaughey there, Cooper.
01:22:12
Speaker
Um, I like all of that so much. Yes. Um, where it just shows that Damon's not an evil man. He's just trying to do what's best for your humanity. And, um,
01:22:25
Speaker
In the way he thinks. Yeah. And I think because McConaughey keeps saying he's going home, he's like, well, he's just going to throw away the mission, and throw away humanity if he does that.
01:22:36
Speaker
So Damon's doing what he thinks is right. um And he's like, don't judge me, Cooper. You weren't tested like I was. Few men ever have been. And like that was one lines that really like hit me for Damon, too.
01:22:49
Speaker
i like, no one's ever been tested like him. damon's character was to be alive for however many years he was doing tests before ah had to go to cryo sleep and probably doing intermittent cryo sleep too um and just keep waking up to find out that no one's come yet and so you just i know you get lonely and like very lonely life i couldn't imagine yeah yep i understand it it's one of those things where you like you have these grand ideals and you're like yeah, I'm going to go save humanity. I'm going to be a part of this,
Emotional Arcs and Complex Themes
01:23:24
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a part of saving people. And you feel super heroic doing that.
01:23:27
Speaker
And then um Matt Damon comes to realization at some point. He's like, I never stopped to think that my planet wouldn't be the one. And like,
01:23:39
Speaker
All a sudden all that hero heroism just goes down the drain and all you are is you're just a failed attempt. You're just sitting out there and yeah.
01:23:50
Speaker
And like you get Damon when they pull him out of the pod too and he just starts crying on Cooper's shoulder and and I love all that with Damon, even to to the point where he um you know fucks up their spaceship when they get out there, fucks up the Endurance, ah and does the locking procedure on. And that that whole scene is just great for me. Yes. Yeah. There, there's plenty of good thrills that come about here and there that like did keep me kind of going, even though that space exploration was going on that maybe wasn't locking me in.
01:24:28
Speaker
I, I am happy that in this film we get those moments as well. And that that's a very, I love a great turn from the character. So Matt Damon did it phenomenally.
01:24:43
Speaker
Yes, yeah I agree. yeah All of your sentiments, like, yep, I i double for sure for that. On the score again, just want to continue harping how fucking awesome Hans Zimmer is. Oh, it seems so like like ah ethereal and spacey. Yeah.
Hans Zimmer’s Impactful Score
01:25:00
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From the moment that ah Dr. Mann betrays Cooper to the point where he blows up the ship and it just goes pure silence. Like that whole sequence of score is just you perfect.
01:25:15
Speaker
Some of the best in the film, some of the best in and film in general. um And just like really ramps up the tension with something different, like very ah piano heavy score from what I remember. And like, yes, it's really good.
01:25:29
Speaker
Okay. Big question since you're bringing up the score and since it's Hans Zimmer. Yeah. Dune part one and two versus Interstellar.
01:25:41
Speaker
ah I would have to watch those again. They don't stick in my mind. So I feel like it would probably be interstellar. I'd have to go doing. Yeah. But, but I'm not the greatest at memory of score. Like when there's not words to go with it, that's very, my head yeah.
01:25:57
Speaker
Understandable. And yeah, I'm not a huge score person. It helps me in my experiences, but I'm not, um, compared to other like film nerds like me, like I,
01:26:09
Speaker
I can't say that I'm super into score like they are. Yeah. Hans Zimmer is a really good fucking composer. Oh yeah. Just legendary. You can't go wrong when you have his scores. yeah You better think the heavens above that you got him on your project.
01:26:27
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Like, Perkwitch has done all of um all of Nolan's work, too. I believe it. is As a composer. Just losing my words. You know, Inception, Dark Knight Rises.
01:26:41
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So, yeah. so and Dr.
Cooper's Emotional Journey
01:26:45
Speaker
Mann blows up the ship. And then we we get to say goodbye to Anne Hathaway a little bit. We get to go into the weird bookshelf dimension.
01:26:53
Speaker
Which is also just a really cool set piece. Trippy. Trippy. Very trippy. I thought I was dropping acid. Might be a good scene to do it too. Yeah, true. um you just get the final, like this, this almost feels like the apex of him and Murph's thing too, for me, like him getting to realize that he's the ghost, uh, for Murph all along.
01:27:17
Speaker
Yes. And, you know, he gets to go relive all these scenes that we see in the past. Um, yeah, And then he gets to give her the shot to save you know humanity by fixing the watch.
01:27:29
Speaker
Or um sending it up to to give her all the information there. Can't imagine how long that took to decode. From binary into actual scientific data. No kidding. Or from Morse code.
01:27:41
Speaker
like That had to be insane. Oh my gosh. And hey, like going off of that, I love when movies telegraph that stuff from the beginning. And you're like...
01:27:52
Speaker
whoa like you know big mind but like yeah you could do so many emotes off of that like just it's just crazy yeah yeah you know and i i just love that it makes the story more meaningful to me and like i i love picking that stuff up and i think nolan did it just right i agree i i think people could also say that Maybe he's repeating the emotional weight of an earlier scene too by Cooper going back to um Cooper's goodbye, the other Cooper's goodbye.
01:28:28
Speaker
Yes. and But like I feel like it just adds such depth to the other side as well of... you know, Cooper in the past, you know, not wanting to leave, but he has to save humanity.
01:28:41
Speaker
And then, you know, the Cooper in the future, that's, uh, you know, just begging, uh, himself not to leave and begging Murph to make him stay. And it just pulls on your heartstrings, man.
01:28:52
Speaker
Yup. Oh my gosh. Yep. Almost honestly lost for words with that emotion. You know, like just the acting range for McConaughey is. Yes. The performers really helped that out.
01:29:07
Speaker
Yes. Agreed. Don't let him leave Murph. Yeah. yeah Kill me now. Yeah.
Family Dynamics and Reunion
01:29:15
Speaker
mean It's a little bit of a plot convenience, him getting spit back out by the black hole, but you can also brush it away as there are these humans in the future that are orchestrating all this so that they can presumably close their circular loop with time that led them there.
01:29:38
Speaker
So I kind of forgive that, that he just shows back up at Earth. At the end of the day, it is a movie and it's Nolan's imagination, like apart from science a bit. Yeah. Yeah.
01:29:49
Speaker
But and love that we do finally get the reunion. And then is where movie kind of loses me a little bit is with his final, yeah you know, get back with Murph. Like feel like there could have been something with the descendants.
01:30:02
Speaker
Like there's like four generations more families in there or something. And they all just walk past the, cooper and i'm like they don't want to say hi to their great great great grandpa yeah that that good point there i didn't really he's 127 years old he looks great you don't want to say hi to him yeah my god drinking from the fountain of youth yeah um it was matthew mcconnelly It would probably take away maybe the weight of him seeing Murph instead. First.
01:30:33
Speaker
Yes. You need that reunion before all these people we have not met before. And he hasn't either. Yeah. But it it just felt weird that they were all to see there to see her and then then they just left without saying hi to him. For movie's sake, I'm just going to go, yeah, I'm all right with it.
Cooper and TARS’ Bond
01:30:52
Speaker
yeah um and yeah like i mentioned earlier i don't like the cooper going back to brand i don't feel like that hit me at all no i i don't buy their relationship yeah but it was nice to think that oh hey there's a whole new human settlement that's gonna be starting over there yeah because they've got all the eggs yeah so another new beginning thankfully yeah and he's bringing tards with him Yes. Oh, thank God. They have such a cool relationship. That's awesome.
01:31:19
Speaker
Like i love this. As it should. Like him putting him back together and fixing TARS and then. Yeah. Setting up his humor setting and. It all comes swinging back around. Yeah. Every scene with TARS in this movie is amazing.
01:31:32
Speaker
Heartwarming. Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. I agree. Holy. What a packed movie. Yeah. There's so much here. Yeah. And like, I feel like you didn't even scratch the surface of it. Like, no, not at all. And like, we could have even picked apart the story more and more and more. yeah.
01:31:52
Speaker
Yeah, there's just not enough time to do that for this movie because there's there's a lot of info.
Interstellar's Place in Sci-Fi Cinema
01:31:58
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's a course through. It's not a basic movie where you've got filler filler scenes or anything like that. Like every scene you could pull something apart and discuss what it means.
01:32:09
Speaker
Yes. And like, you know, over the past 10 years, how many times has this movie been picked apart and discussed? So like, yeah yeah, it's hard to imagine like if we could add any more sustenance to the conversation but hey we try our freaking best here yeah no like this is a lot of fun like you mentioned watching uh or listening in the house of cinemas um version like of course listen to theirs listen to other people's you could probably go three four or five different podcasts and keep learning new things and hearing new things exactly
01:32:44
Speaker
I kept my my facts and behind-the-scenes things short on this one. Usually like to sprinkle a little more in. but Those have been gone over how many times? Yeah. yeah But I had so many just thoughts on this, and nothing is new.
01:32:59
Speaker
um I'm sure everyone's shared my sentiments sentiments before with this movie being at like an 8.9 on IMDb, but... um i am to be but
01:33:08
Speaker
yeah, I love this movie a lot. It is the pinnacle of sci-fi, um really high up there for time travel concepts. ah And I think just the emotional weight of the movie holds really dear to me.
01:33:22
Speaker
Yeah. That's awesome to hear you say, because i don't think I've heard that come out of your mouth ever about a movie. So, hey, all right. Love learning. Love learning more about your, like, yeah, your your love for movies.
01:33:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think if, I don't know if we've covered any nines for me on the pod. Like I know we covered my two tens, but tens are in a weird bracket for me where they're, they're transcendent of movie flaw.
01:33:51
Speaker
I will love them no matter No matter what. Yeah. And you'll defend it to the day you die and have no shame about it. hundred percent. Hey, I'm with you on a lot of movies that way.
01:34:01
Speaker
don't know. I actually, we've covered a couple of nines. I liked a fight club toy, anger men and train of us on. The three nines for me. That was their fourth. But it's been a while.
01:34:13
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All three of those were really early movies for a prod. I don't think you were on for any of those. wasn't. No. Yeah. I finally only checked out Train to Busan for the first time like couple months ago.
01:34:23
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Yeah. Did you enjoy it? Yeah. Yeah. Loved it. That's good. um that's like high tier zombie fiction for me i'm not super into the zombie genre um for sub genres of horror and that one sticks in my mind yeah i do really enjoy it so want to do uh reminds me of or any more final thoughts i don't think so i think we kind of went over it yeah those were kind of just They were more general thoughts, but, you know, i I wanted to get them out and hopefully they made sense to some people and hopefully to you. And yeah, I loved hearing you go through it. And especially since you're passionate about it, you know, still just shame, shame, shame.
01:35:08
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I'm sorry. i know. Okay. Hey, reminds me of.
01:35:13
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um Yeah, what do you got? So I was I was gonna say, i mean, obviously, there's a lot of obvious ones for this one. Yeah, I kind of went with arrival. And I'm only highlighting this one because I really do believe that it's a better, more complete film in my eyes.
01:35:30
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um I'm not trying to slight Interstellar um with saying that it's just that indescribable indescribable thing when it comes to Interstellar versus other sci fi movies, and why I can't pinpoint some of my feelings towards the whole genre.
Comparison Between Arrival and Interstellar
01:35:47
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I think maybe it has to do with Arrival mostly being on Earth and you know actually standing apart from Interstellar. yeah In that way, being a sci-fi movie, it like none of it takes place in space, right?
01:36:01
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like um It's in a spaceship on Earth. Just in the spaceship. yep so and i mean Obviously, there's ah aliens added to that as well, like these you know huge aliens trying to communicate.
01:36:15
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with their language and everything. And there's, there's another element that interstellar does not have. That's just super interesting to me. If that makes sense. Yeah.
01:36:26
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But that that's kind of all I had because there's obvious similar similarities. I don't really need to go over. I will cover the obvious one here. I agree with the arrival, by the way, or a arrival, by the way.
01:36:38
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And I think having to do with time. Yeah, I think the time travel aspect. There we go. And some of the it's not father, daughter and that, but it's like mother, daughter, or some mother, mother.
01:36:48
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Yeah. Mother, daughter, mother, daughter. yeah um stuff is is similar in that.
Interstellar and The Martian Similarities
01:36:55
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I'll cover the other big, huge sci-fi movie that came out a year later that also has Matt Damon getting trapped on a various planet with Jessica Chastain also being on a crew to save him.
01:37:06
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um and That's Ridley Scott's The Martian. um Weird that there's so many similarities, but it came out in 2015 just the year after. and like Amazing movie. I watched it so many times as a kid growing up it's more family friendly i would say it gets less into the super sci-fi and more on the matt damon being where he's a good guy in this one but um yeah so different in that way yeah super very or you haven't seen this one have you i haven't still no i know guys i'm sorry it's it's been on my watch list don't worry
01:37:39
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Well, it's Matt Damon being a super dad, lots of dad jokes. Oh, perfect. So it's, it's him being stranded on Mars. They dropped him there or he was presumed dead.
01:37:51
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so they left and they find out he's alive. So they got to go back to get him. Um, so there's also some moral questions in that of like how much resources and how many people's lives you risk to save one person.
01:38:02
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Um, yeah. But that's a good one. And then I thought of Inception with this one too, which kind of mind fucky stuff. um One of Nolan's other films. Yep. So I think it's ah it's a good um double watch if you want some follow up after this.
01:38:18
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For sure. Either one of those. Yeah, that'd be a ah definitely be a good double watch. Yeah. Yeah, that's ah that's all I had. Just those two to cover. And now where to watch?
01:38:31
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suppose Hulu and Paramount, like we mentioned, or you can obviously rent it on Amazon Prime, Apple TV Plus, or anywhere you can rent your movies.
01:38:43
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Yeah, it's also on Peacock, I guess, according to IMDb. Oh, wow. Okay. It's really everywhere. All right. There you go, guys. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to check out this classic that a lot of people, modern classic that a lot of people,
01:38:59
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mention 8.7 out of 10 2.3 million ratings pretty positives 2.3 million people that are more right about movies that would fight me yep so what have you been watching lately
Taking Breaks and Revisiting Films
01:39:18
Speaker
Really? Not a whole lot, honestly. I threw on... I've been playing a lot of Marvel Rivals ah recently on on my PS5. And that's only been because kind of needed a little break for movies. I love them to death, but um if I can't give my full attention to them, I don't want to do it, if that makes sense. you know
01:39:42
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um So I've been kind of keeping my mind distracted with... some video games like Marvel rivals. So the other night before bed, when I was in the movie mood, I did toss on multiverse of madness.
01:39:55
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So I started that one, even though one of my least favorite Marvel movies, I just enjoy seeing Scarlet, which the way she is in it. Don't know if I've rewatched since my theater watch. And same. That's why I decided to throw it on. Like maybe I would feel a little different towards stuff. I didn't. I didn't really. If I could spoil that for you. But yeah, I remember liking it a lot.
01:40:16
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It might have been my eight or nine watching it in theaters. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. enjoyed it a lot. Well, see, the people I went with enjoyed it more than I did, too. Like ah Brennan, if you're listening, you definitely did.
01:40:27
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Yeah. And then I also tossed on Wakanda forever. So definitely like, yeah, I've been away from MCU stuff. for quite a while compared to other people so i'm pretty okay with returning to it like right now yeah black panther shirt on yes i yes i do you know it yeah yeah i got my black panther marvel shirt on yep um yeah i did also re-watch the moon knight series love it to death still so i need to give that a re-watch you do oh my gosh yeah i'm looking at my little moon night action figure right now yes so there's actually some good stuff coming out that i'm excited for for
01:41:03
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for That with Thunderbolts. Oh, yes. um And we will be covering Thunderbolts, guys. We will. So be on the lookout for that first MCU from Hazardous Opinions.
Marvel Thunderbolts and Recent Watches
01:41:12
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Yeah, we talk about the MCU a lot and usually shitting on them. but if Fair.
01:41:17
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um It's covered a lot. So that's yeah why we kind of have stayed a little away. Yeah. Yeah. um yeah I mean, there's what, like three, four Marvel movies a year still.
01:41:29
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Oh, my goodness. Thank God they slowed down. Andy, what have you been watching lately? I've been bouncing before back and forth between rewatches and shitty movies. Wonderful.
01:41:41
Speaker
My dad, as he does, just picks random things. Oh, that's right. um On the TV sometimes. And he, like me, if you get a certain point into the movie, you just have to sit it through.
01:41:53
Speaker
Like, I'm just... i know i can't turn that off it's like well i can't consider this watched unless i finish it and i want to rate it badly so i have to finish it you're a completionist yeah 100 yes so i'm like if i just turn off and go away ah can't just be in my blissful own world where i have only perfect movies on my letterboxd so i gotta watch some shit sometimes Just to really re ah integrate yourself into why movies are good.
01:42:25
Speaker
Yeah, no fair. and Like I said, with bad movies, they keep you honest. Yeah. So I watched Gulliver's Travels um yesterday.
01:42:35
Speaker
Yeah. Nope. I don't really like Jack Black. I'll be honest. I love Jack Black though. I think he's good in the super goofy stuff like Natural Libre. It's just not in these ones where they try and put any seriousness in it.
01:42:51
Speaker
It's just not good. And then this whole Minecraft movie thing, I'm gonna i'm going to avoid like the plague. um yes me too but i did re-watch aliens on saturday oh awesome um the second one um super good still love it so i was checks out i was just quoting it the whole time and i think my parents were like a nerd like especially um bill paxton like just oh game over man i was i was saying it before it even comes up and what the hell It's so fun. I mean, yeah, you know me with screams. That would have been me.
01:43:28
Speaker
Yeah. So I'm just a super nerd about that stuff. But I did actually I do have one good one. I checked out 2021 Stowaway. um So this is Joe Penna directed.
01:43:39
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um He didn't really do a whole lot of movies, but he did this one called Arctic that liked with Mads Mikkelsen. I think it is in that one. But this one's a super small cast. It's Toni Collette, Daniel Dae Kim from Lost, and a bunch of other stuff.
01:43:54
Speaker
um And then Anna Kendrick. And it's just them getting on board a ship. They're doing a Mars mission. And there's a stowaway that they find. And they don't have enough oxygen for four people.
01:44:09
Speaker
So it's just this weird moral conundrum movie. But it's another sci-fi movie. And I ended up enjoying it. Wow. Okay. That sounds interesting. I've never heard of it. think it's on Netflix.
01:44:22
Speaker
Perfect. Okay. I might have to add that onto my watch list then. I'll go to your letterboxd. It's not like super ah up there in the genre or anything. Like it's not doing anything new. It's mostly the moral conundrum rather than the sci-fi things that are good about it.
01:44:37
Speaker
Sure. ah I enjoy moral conundrums. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. but So at least ah like a solid watch though. Yeah. It's it's a solid, um good movie. Yeah. Awesome.
01:44:48
Speaker
I liked it. Okay. But yeah, that's all I have. That's all we got for what we've been watching lately. So with that, lastly, make sure to follow us on socials on TikTok and Instagram at Hazardous Opinions Pod.
Engagement with Listeners and Future Plans
01:45:04
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01:45:18
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01:45:29
Speaker
And that will be brought to you by me. And snack shack was released last year and it's one of my favorite movies already. So I, I cannot wait to yeah try and sell you guys it. course.
01:45:40
Speaker
ah Yeah. And then that's going to be our second for the month already. Yes. This April, two Aprils. And then, yeah, hoping to do a new movie and a topic later. So we're ah very excited for that.
01:45:53
Speaker
I think we're eyeing the movie Sinners as a new release movie. Yeah. Hopefully it works out with the schedule, but I think it will. And I'm looking forward to covering that one. I like movie Jordan as an actor.
01:46:04
Speaker
Yes. I've been hearing raving things about it so far. So I'm, I'm excited. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll talk to you guys then. Thank you so much. Bye, everybody.
01:46:14
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See you.