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29. Vincent Field
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In this week’s episode, I go deep into lucid dreams and astral projection with Vincent Field. He is the author of the popular book: Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming: Spiritual Revelations and Out-of-Body Experiences in Higher Dimensions: A Complete Guide to Exploring Nonphysical Reality.
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Introduction to Vincent Field and His Work
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Hello and welcome to pursuit of infinity in this week's episode I go deep into lucid dreaming and astral projection with Vincent Field He's the author of the popular book astral projection and lucid dreaming spiritual revelations and out-of-body Experiences and higher dimensions a complete guide to exploring non-physical reality
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Joe and I talk quite a bit about lucid dreams and astral travel, so having Vincent on was a real treat. He fleshes out the differences between the two, gives insight on techniques to achieve these states, and describes some of his most intense experiences. You can purchase the book on Amazon, and if you'd like to connect with Vincent, you can find him on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok at Vincent Field Author.
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What Are Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming?
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Today, we're here with Vincent Field, the author of Astro Projection and Lucid Dreaming, Spiritual Revelations and Out of Body Experiences in Higher Dimensions, a complete guide to exploring non-physical reality. So, Vincent, why don't we start off by just discussing some of the fundamentals, like what astral projection is and what lucid dreaming is.
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Okay, sure. Astral projection is a type of out of body experience in which your consciousness travels to higher dimensions of reality. And so how that works is reality consists of an entire spectrum
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of different dimensions. And these different dimensions exist at particular frequencies of energy, right? And so you can consider the physical dimension to be like the base level of reality. And above the physical dimension are progressively higher and higher dimensions.
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And so your consciousness enters, uh, these, these higher dimensions of reality. And it's, it's similar to how there are different, um, frequencies of light. And we can only perceive a limited range of these light frequencies and all the others that are invisible to us, you know, like X-ray and microwave infrared. Uh, they still exist. Uh, we're just not able to perceive them.
00:03:29
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So in the same way, these, these higher dimensions of reality exist even though they're invisible to us, you know, while we're grounded in the physical body. But when you have an out of body experience, you enter these higher dimensions.
00:03:47
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And it's pretty incredible. Now lucid dreaming is a similar type of experience because your consciousness is entering other realities. But the nature of these realities is a little different in lucid dreams.
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typically lucid dreams take place in the type of subconsciously created reality whereas astral projection takes place in the astral dimensions which are these higher dimensions above the physical dimension and these exist
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uh, beyond your own mind, they're independent of your own subconscious mind. Whereas typically a lucid dream, uh, you know, your environment and the experience will for the most part be a manifestation of your subconscious mind.
00:04:45
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Very interesting. Very interesting. So by manifestation of your subconscious mind, you sort of are referring to a lucid dream in a way where, um, I hear people say they can create certain things and they can sort of go where they want. Um, and astral projection being more of like you're visiting a particular place with some sort of like structure behind it. Yeah, exactly.
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So what got you into lucid dreaming and astral projection? How did you begin this journey?
Vincent's Journey into Astral Projection
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Man, when I was 14 years old, I was just browsing the internet and I came across a website that was talking about how to body experiences. And you know, at this time, this was 22 years ago. It was like the early days of the internet. So I waited like 10 minutes for this, this website to load, you know, which was pretty normal back then.
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And, uh, yeah, I read all about it. I was super interested and I found a technique and I immediately started trying it. And within a week I was able to leave my body and I've been practicing that ever since. After one week. Yeah, that's impressive. It seems like it would take most people a bit more time than that. Do you think you're predisposed to these types of experiences? And that's why you were able to sort of break through so early.
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You know, not necessarily. I think in general, you know, some people have natural ability or inclinations in certain areas. Um, so, so it is possible, but, uh, I do know for a fact that anyone can do this, you know, uh, maybe it won't take a week. Uh, you know, maybe it'll take a little longer, but.
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After all these years and looking back at when I began this practice, I identified several components which were present, which I believe allowed me to have the success so quickly. And so one of them was
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This motivation I had this like really strong motivation. I really wanted to do this and And I was dedicated, you know, I was I was trying this every day of for you know, sometimes over an hour per session and you know, I had an open mind and I I
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I really believe that it was possible and that I could do it. There is really no doubt in my mind that I would do this. It was just a question of when. And also the technique, having a solid method that is grounded in
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Um, you know, the fundamental principles of, you know, the mechanics of these experiences that also helps, you know, uh, an effective method is, it's helpful, but it's not only the method, you know, there's this whole mentality behind it. Um, you know, if you have, um, conflicting beliefs, you know, maybe, uh,
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like deep inside, you're actually afraid of something that could possibly happen once you're out of your body. Um, that kind of stuff can hold you back to. So can another belief maybe of not being sure that it could work or not being sure that it's real. Could that hold you back as well?
Confronting Fears and Techniques for Astral Projection
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Yeah, definitely for sure. You know, some people have other types of
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of like hindering beliefs, like they're afraid that, that some spirit is going to come possess their body, or they're afraid that they're going to get stuck out of their body and never be able to return, you know, things like that. Uh, you know, none of that is actually true. That can't happen, but.
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Oh yeah, you know, it helps to, to research, uh, to read about other people's experiences and get a good, uh, good foundation, a good idea of, of what it's all about before actually jumping into it. Just so you're prepared. Did you have any mentors or specific authors or people that you looked into before you started doing this?
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Um, not necessarily, you know, um, you know, back then there wasn't a lot of information available on the internet, you know, the year 2000, 1999, 2000. And so, um, there was one book, I don't know if it was the entire book, but I believe the first book I read on the subject was by, uh, Bob Peterson. I forget the title. Um,
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but it gave me an idea of what these experiences were like. And, um, you know, nowadays, uh, and since then, you know, I've done a lot of research, read a lot of authors. So like some of the more, um, influential authors for me were, uh,
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Robert Monroe, Bruce Mowin. Um, you know, there are a lot of others like Michael Raduga. Um, but yeah, it's definitely a good idea to, to, to be prepared in that sense. Yeah, for sure.
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And can you maybe speak a little bit on the technique that you discovered that seemed to work pretty well for you? Sure. The first technique that I used, it was a type of meditation that you do from a fully awakened state. Uh, so basically you lay down in bed on your back.
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and you progressively tense and relax your muscles until your entire body is very relaxed. And really the key principle is for your body to fall asleep while your mind is awake. So you need to keep your mind awake as your body falls asleep.
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And so, you know, half of that is the body part, getting the body to fall asleep. And the other half of that is maintaining your awareness so that your mind stays awake and doesn't fall asleep with your body. And so on that front,
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you want to incorporate a type of meditation where you have a particular mental focus so that your consciousness doesn't slip into the sleep state. But this first method that I used, it took a while. It took like up to an hour at times.
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because you're doing this from a fully awakened state. So you need to go through this entire process of getting the body to fall asleep. And if you're fully awakened at that time, it's not going to be instant, you know? And, but surely shortly after this, I discovered another technique, which is far more effective and way faster.
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And you do this technique in the early morning and it's much better because in the early morning, your body and your mind are already in the ideal state to have an astral projection. So you want to wake up maybe five or six hours after falling asleep. So basically a couple hours before you would normally wake up to start your day.
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And, um, you know, you can do it, uh, type of meditation and there are different, um, variations and, you know, um, the, the main concept is the same, you know, your body will fall back to sleep and your mind will remain awake. And it's easiest in the morning because well, your body is already deeply relaxed.
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and you know usually after five or six hours of sleep it's easy to fall back to sleep you know your body is already in that state but also at this time your mind has already gotten a decent amount of rest whereas if you try this you know late at night where your mind is pretty tired so it's easier for you to just lose consciousness.
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And so, yeah, in the early morning, it's a lot easier to keep your mind awake. And yeah, that was like, that was a pretty revolutionary method for me then. It was such an improvement and
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my projections became far more consistent. And, you know, since then I basically developed to a point where it was getting easier and faster and faster, you know, and eventually I'd be able to leave my body in a matter of seconds after waking up.
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For this method, it does call for you to wake up and stay awake for a period of time. I guess just to kind of bring your mind into a more of a focused state so it doesn't fall back to sleep.
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And so in the beginning, I was staying awake for up to an hour, but it's not an exact science. And, you know, you can experiment with different periods of time.
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But as time went on, I would cut this period shorter and shorter. And like I said, now this period doesn't exist. I can just wake up in the early morning and slip right out of my body instantly.
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And it also works with longer periods of time. Sometimes I would wake up after four hours of sleep and stay awake for three hours and then go back to bed with the same result. So, like I said, it's not an exact science, but it's good to experiment with different periods of times and see what works best for you.
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I've heard of some visualization techniques that you can use to get yourself sort of out of your body. One of them that I think is popular that I've heard quite a few times was imagining there's like a rope dangling down and you're sort of climbing that rope and it helps you to visualize your consciousness climbing out of your body. Is that something that you recommend or do you have any other types of visualization techniques that are just as good, if not better?
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Yeah, that was actually one of the first visualization techniques that I used. And that was part of my first method. And that was part of the meditation, which would basically allow your body to fall asleep as your mind remains awake. It gives a nice focus for your mind.
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But what it also does is it induces a feeling of, of movement, like an internal feeling of movement. And this can also like facilitate the process and the separation from the body. Um, I had more success climbing a ladder than climbing a rope. Um,
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Maybe just because of the movement itself, it seemed more natural to me. It's the same concept. But you can also imagine falling backwards. Falling actually provides a far more intense internalized feeling of movement, which can result in a faster separation from the body.
00:17:41
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Um, but there's so many other, um, variations, you know, like feel like you're, you're swimming or, or rolling over to the side, um, like rotating. Uh, there, there are so many different, um, different things you can do, but, but the general principle for all of them is basically the same like to create this internalized feeling of movement, uh, which, uh, helps to induce the separation.
00:18:13
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Interesting. Do you mind going into, uh, some of the experiences that you've had that are notable?
Exploring Dimensions and Encounters in Astral Projection
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Yeah, definitely. Oh, you know, my book is full of them and I could talk about this for hours and hours. Cause I mean, what's in my book is just like, uh, a small piece of the pie. You know what I'm saying? I basically chose, um,
00:18:40
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the more profound experiences and or experiences that could give the reader some kind of lesson in terms of understanding the nature of these experiences and some learning tool. So in the beginning, what typically happens is that
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you will project into the lower dimensions. I mentioned that reality exists in a spectrum. And so the dimensions that are just slightly higher than the physical dimension, you can consider those the lower dimensions because they're lower on the spectrum of non-physical reality.
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But as you progress and practice and gain experience over time, you begin to access higher and higher dimensions. And so the lower dimensions typically look a lot like the physical world, but as you get higher, reality starts to become more unique and abstract and just incredible.
00:19:51
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And, and so in the beginning I was accessing these lower dimensions. So I would leave my body and, you know, it would look like my room. I would see myself laying in bed and I would fly through my window. Um, you know, just exploring with no particular, um, goal in mind. Um, as I progressed, I began to incorporate, uh, more of a,
00:20:18
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more of an intention for my experiences. So I basically made a list of goals, things that I wanted to explore and achieve and learn and learn and, you know, um, entities and, um, you know, beings that I wanted to, to encounter and communicate with. And so, um, in the early days, my more notable experiences, um,
00:20:49
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involved what I call shadow people or shadow beings. And this was, I think my second out of body experience ever. I floated from my body and all of a sudden I'm face to face with this giant shadow person. It was like a huge dark silhouette, like over seven feet tall.
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And this thing just scared the shit out of me. I mean, seeing something like this up close, there's no words to describe it. It's just insane. And I instantly
00:21:34
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Re-entered my body what happens is that when you experience like a strong state of fear when you're out of your body It's like a a trigger that causes an automatic Reintegration with the body
00:21:51
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And so I got back into my body and I shook it off and I gave it another try and I left my body again and this shadow being was still there. And so, you know, I called a quiz for that day because I wanted no parts of that. But these shadow beings, they kept coming and it was like they're always there when I was leaving my body.
00:22:21
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And, um, you know, sometimes they would just be standing there facing me, but other times they would come at me, like they would try to grab me. And most of the time, um, I would, I would freak out and go back into my body. But eventually I started to realize like, they never actually hurt me. And, um,
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I never really had any like communications with them and nothing to really indicate that they were actually a threat. And so I learned to ignore them and continue on my journey. And what started to happen was that I started to project into dimensions higher than the dimensions that they exist in.
00:23:12
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They seem to exist primarily in the lowest dimensions. And so eventually I began projecting directly into somewhat higher dimensions. And so I eventually began to completely bypass these levels where they exist. But yeah, very, very interesting stuff. Some people say they see shadow people in the real world.
00:23:40
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And, uh, you know, it's possible. I mean, it seems like they exist in the astral dimension. Um, but like I said, in like the lowest dimension. And so it's possible there can be some kind of like maybe bleed through at times where you're kind of like somehow able to perceive into a slightly higher.
00:24:01
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Um, dimension where you're, where these people are, are seeing these shadow beings, like kind of superimposed, uh, on our physical dimension. Yeah. That was going to be my next question actually is, do you find that there's sort of a connection between the astral realms and the current round that we find ourselves in? And are there other ways to get to those realms, maybe via psychedelics or certain meditations?
00:24:31
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Yeah, there's definitely a connection. There's a connection between all of these realities. And it seems like the lower dimensions are almost a type of like energetic replication and energetic projection from the physical world. And as you get higher,
00:24:59
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Um, this energy gets like finer and finer. It's all connected, you know, and it's essentially all in like the same space. Um, it's just a matter of like kind of tapping into, to finer and finer, higher, um, frequencies of, of energy. And, um, yeah, I do believe that it's possible to, to access.
00:25:28
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these types of dimensions with psychedelics, like you said, I think you can experience and perceive dimensions of reality that do exist. I don't think it's all just a hallucination.
00:25:50
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Yeah, it really doesn't seem that way when you're experiencing it, right? Because it's something that is so far out of what we normally consider real and normal. So it doesn't seem to be a hallucination. A lot of it, especially in terms of astral projection, it's not.
00:26:07
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produced by any type of substance in your body. So to me, that sort of lends to the fact that it might be somewhere that's accessible outside of strictly like a quote unquote dream state. And I think the most interesting part about astral projection is the fact that there's, there seems to be a structure to these places. It's like you're going somewhere that you can return to. So do you find that there are places that you can go back to and return to if you so choose?
00:26:39
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Uh, yeah, you know, um, I've had multiple experiences, um, in, in higher dimensions with, um, what I call the higher self common, commonly called the higher self. And, uh, when I have these experiences, um, I set the intention and I project.
00:27:06
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Into this into this level of reality It's a much much higher dimension much different from anything like this physical world but but yeah You know It it's more or less the the same You're projecting into the the higher self into this higher dimension of reality and You know you can You know have
00:27:36
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basically as many experiences in this level of reality that you want. And, um, you know, there's an integration that takes place. I mean, the nature of the higher self is, it's a big complex, but you can, you can consider it to be like the, um,
00:27:58
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the deepest or highest level of your consciousness, of who you are as a spiritual entity. And what this is, is it's so much more vast and deep than and expansive and just beyond words, incredible. So much more than
00:28:27
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who we perceive ourselves to be as these individuals in this body. And you experience this higher state of existence, and it's something that you can keep going back to. Now, in terms of places, locations, and landmarks,
00:28:51
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Yeah, it's certainly possible to revisit places like that. Um, I've, I've never had much interest in doing that. Like, Oh, let me see if I can go back to, uh, to this building, you know, that I saw out there. Um, I've always been more interested in, um, achieving, uh, achieving goals, right. Um,
00:29:17
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But yeah, like I said, the astral dimension, it's more of a consensus level of reality. So these places are there, whether, you know, your mind is perceiving it or not. So you said that your focus was to achieve some sort of a goal. So what specific goals did you have in mind?
00:29:44
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Oh, well, I basically keep a list of goals and it, you know, it continues to be updated and, you know, modified as, as I reach one and then I add others. Um, so as an example, um, I had the goal at one point of contacting, uh, some of my deceased relatives and, and I was able to do that.
00:30:11
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Well, one of the first times I did this, um, I met my deceased great grandmother and what happened was I left my body and I stated my intention and I stated, um, I want to, to see my great grandmother. And the next thing I knew I was pulled by this force out into space, up into the sky. And I was shooting through space, like.
00:30:40
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deep space just like whizzing past stars and planets. And I didn't know where I was going. I was, I was being led somewhere by, uh,
00:30:55
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by a source that's higher than my own mind. And I came to learn that it's the higher self, this higher self that I mentioned, which can kind of almost take over your experience in the sense that it will lead you
00:31:15
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Um, to have an experience that, that you intend to have, you know, just through your intention and, and through your connection with this higher portion of your consciousness, uh, that is so much more powerful than your, your normal like thinking mind. And, uh, and so I'm being led out into the far reaches of space. And then I see this light in the distance.
00:31:42
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And I approach it and I realized this is my great grandmother. It was like, she was like radiating with a slight. And, um, and, you know, we, we communicated and it was just an incredible experience. And, um, that was actually in the early days of my practice, I started to, to learn how I could really control my experiences to.
00:32:08
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you know, to achieve these goals that I had. And, you know, a lot of times it's a lot simpler than you may think. It's basically a matter of opening up a connection with this higher aspect of your consciousness and allowing it to direct your experience through your intention. It's incredible. How do these experiences change your thought process when it comes to spirituality and death?
Spiritual Insights and Experiences
00:32:40
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Well, I mean, the first thing is that you gain the firsthand experience that you exist beyond your body.
00:32:53
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just your body and your brain, but you're this spiritual entity that existed far before you were born on this world and will exist far after the body dies. And you particularly gain these insights as you gain higher levels of experience in higher dimensions.
00:33:21
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because what happens is you begin to tap into knowledge and experience and memories, which were really not able to access while we're grounded in this body, but in these higher states of consciousness, you gain this knowledge.
00:33:46
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And it's like a firsthand knowing. It's like a fact. It's like you experience truth directly. And so I've experienced the truth of these things. And we don't really have a type of experience that compares to this in the physical world. So it's not easy to
00:34:12
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um express exactly what it's like it's something you need to experience to to truly grasp yeah i think it has that in common with a lot of meditative practices and psychedelics as well you know you can't really describe it they say it's ineffable you know it's uh it's beyond language um
00:34:34
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But I assume that you probably tried to explain it to people when it first happened. So what were some of the reactions that you got? Were people receptive to it in the beginning? Yeah, well, I didn't talk about it with a whole lot of people. In the very beginning,
00:34:56
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I had a couple of friends who, who I wanted to get into it with me. You know, I wanted them to try it. One of them did try it and was actually able to leave his body, but he wasn't really interested like I was. So he kind of, you just said, yeah, that was cool, but I'm not going to pursue this.
00:35:16
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And, you know, I'm sure I've had, I had other friends who thought I was a little crazy and, you know, my parents weren't thrilled with it. My mom was against the idea. You know, I was 14 when I started this. So, you know, she was just worried about me. She still is 22 years later, but, uh,
00:35:36
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Yeah, over the years I started to join online communities where people were engaged in different types of spiritual practices. And, you know, I had these platforms to share my own experiences and exchange ideas. And yeah, you know, in communities like those,
00:36:00
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The reception was great. I was helping people have their own experiences and share my own reading others. I spent a lot of time in certain forums and online groups and things like that. Eventually,
00:36:26
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I made the decision to really organize everything, because over the years I kept journals of all my experiences, like detailed journals. And so I decided it was time to really share this with the world, not just in this online community, but I decided I'm going to publish a book about this. And it was really just a matter of organizing
00:36:54
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what I had already written in my journals, and then adding the techniques that I've used over the years, and also giving some insights and afterthoughts into the experiences. Because in the beginning, I didn't have a comprehensive understanding of these experiences
00:37:24
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but over the years as I learned more and more.
00:37:29
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Um, you know, that changed. And so basically I wrote this book, like from my current perspective, like looking back, like even on my earliest experiences. And so like, I'll share my first experiences and then, then I'll, I'll give my, my current insight, um, into them to, to help the reader, uh, really understand what's going on, you know, insight that I lacked at that time. But, you know, I gained over the years.
00:37:57
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So what are some of the lessons that you've learned, some of the insights that you've gained and maybe some of the, uh, like practical life lessons that you've put into place since doing this? Okay. Well, um, yeah, uh, the insights relate more with, uh,
00:38:16
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you know, the experiences themselves, and basically just like the nature of, of these different dimensions, how to how to navigate them. You know, let's say I had some unusual experience, like, I'm trying to fly through my wall. And usually, I can do that no problem. But but this one time, it's like I'm stuck. It's like there's this force pulling me back every time I try to go through.
00:38:43
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And, you know, so in the beginning, I'm like, what's going on with this? I had no idea why that was happening. But over time, with the experimentation and, you know, just experience, you know, I learned to overcome that obstacle. And, you know, I learned why it happens and how you can avoid it. You know, things like that, things like that are the types of insights that I share, which, you know, will help the reader if they're getting into the practice themselves.
00:39:12
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Or just to give you the knowledge in general, in terms of practical lessons gained from this. Well, you have practical lessons in terms of the practice itself. So applying these lessons to your own practice of astral projection, lucid dreaming,
00:39:37
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I'm not sure if you meant that or if you meant practical more in the sense of how you can apply it to your own normal waking life, your day-to-day activities. And in that sense, the main thing it brings is a new perspective, a new perspective of who you are and of what this life is about.
00:40:05
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And, and that can, you know, it can really change things, you know, it changes your beliefs. And so that will change your thoughts and that will change your actions. And, uh, it just has this cascading effect. That's amazing. Um, um, going back to some of the, um, people that you've talked to about it.
00:40:30
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you know, some of the relationships that you have, um, did you meet anybody of high importance to you in terms of like, again, mentors or anyone that you could sort of travel these realms with someone you can come back from and like talk to about this type of stuff and maybe gain some insight from them as well. Um, you know, I, I don't really have, um, any, any personal friends or acquaintances, um,
00:41:00
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that I shared this stuff with that also practice this. But over the years I've made friends in certain online communities and I think that's the majority of where these types of relationships took place where I was able to
00:41:28
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You know share what I was doing and get feedback like that It's cool, you know, I find these these shadow beings pretty interesting Do you find that you're like kind of way past the shadow beings thing? Or do you would like to revisit those or are there other entities that you've that you've seen in there that have been important to you? Yeah, well, you know Sleep paralysis is
00:41:58
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is still a pretty common thing for me. Um, you know, I've been having it since I was young and you know, I have it even when I'm not trying to leave my body. Um, but you know, uh, at times I'll see them during sleep paralysis. Um, and it's a pretty normal occurrence, not just for me, but a lot of people. Um, and you know, typically when you're in sleep paralysis, um,
Encounters with Alien-like Entities and UFOs
00:42:26
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your mind is shifted at least slightly into the astral dimension. So you're not actually perceiving the physical world, right? It'll probably look like your room just because, like I said, the lower dimensions appear very similar to the physical world.
00:42:49
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And, but, you know, what you're perceiving during the sleep paralysis is actually in the astral dimension. So these entities, you may see shadow beings, uh, aliens. I've had a lot of experiences with entities that look a lot like aliens, like a typical gray alien, you know, like the big black slanted eyes. Um, and, and those guys really bugged me out. They.
00:43:16
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essentially stalked me for quite some time. In a sense, they kind of took the place of the shadow beings and I would leave my body and they would just be around me, just standing around my bed, just looking at me. Sometimes they would do things to me like,
00:43:43
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This one time, I shifted into the astral and this alien had its almost entire arm down my mouth, down my throat, and I could feel it. And it wasn't my physical body, it was my astral body, my energy body, but I could feel it. And it was like probing down in my throat.
00:44:09
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it was really disturbing and you know these these entities that looked like aliens it was almost the same group so it was they were similar to like the grays but they had a light orange skin color so they weren't gray but they almost always had the same appearance and
00:44:32
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I got this really bad vibe from them. They just radiated this sinister energy. And at times I would sense them before actually completely shifting from my body and being able to see them. And at times I wouldn't expect them, but I would sense this energy and I knew it was them, it was their energy.
00:45:03
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And yeah, you know, over time, it was also similar with my experiences with the shadow entities because I eventually got tired of having this fearful response to them. And I decided to just let it go and just go with it. And it actually led to some interesting experiences like
00:45:33
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Um, they would communicate with me like this telepathic link would open between us and they would share information and, and some, some pretty interesting stuff. I talk about it in my book.
00:45:46
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But I've had experiences with other groups of aliens or these entities that look like aliens, what we consider to be aliens. Different groups, and some of them were actually positive entities like
00:46:04
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Like the one group I was talking about, I will consider them to be negative entities. Um, but I, I've encountered, um, like higher level alien type entities that have, um, revealed some, some like incredible things to me. And, uh, yeah, so, you know, I've seen a lot of different, different types of beings over the years.
00:46:31
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And, uh, you know, each one's is a little different, different experience, different, uh, knowledge and revelations and, and things like that from each one. Yeah, it's cool. Cause man, I've always felt like there's a strong possibility that when we consider aliens, when we're seeing UFOs and this and that, I think there's a very strong possibility that those are interdimensional beings as opposed to physical biological entities. And I think what you just said supports that.
00:47:03
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Yeah, absolutely. And you know, the thing is I never expected to, to see these, these entities out of my body. Cause I always thought they were, they were physical, you know, they, they flew around in these, these UFOs and they would have dug people. And I used to think it was just a physical thing, but then, you know, I quickly realized that these aliens, they operate in these higher dimensions. I don't know.
00:47:30
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That's like their home base or if they project their consciousness there like we do during astral projection, but they definitely operate there. And, um, yeah. Um, and I had this one experience with, uh, this group of entities and I was, I was out in space with them and they were sharing this.
00:47:59
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this knowledge with me that was so, so profound. It was like, it was beyond my, my conscious mind's ability to like to grasp. And it was like a download of knowledge. And I just couldn't put my finger on it. Like, um, I couldn't really make sense of it. It was just like, it was too complex, but, but I knew it like it was there. Like, like it was, it was put into me.
00:48:29
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And it's still there, right? It's just a matter of kind of getting your consciousness to that higher level that it's able to really process and assimilate and make sense of that. And while grounded in this physical body, it's just not possible.
00:48:50
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But I did retain some things from this one particular experience. And one of those things was that they told me that before this life that I'm living right now, I made a kind of agreement with these entities to have a relationship with them during this life.
00:49:16
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a type of like sole contract, I guess you can call it. And, um, and I, I experienced this as a truth. It wasn't just like, oh, they told me that, believe me, it's true. It was like, I experienced it, like, like the memories of, of actually making this contract with them. Like it was like a firsthand experience. And so, uh, yeah, I've had experiences over the years, which, um, which have, um,
00:49:45
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reveal things to me about who I was before this life, like who I am in terms of other aspects of my consciousness, which are engaged in levels of reality, which I'm not currently aware of. And it's not just me, but that's everyone, like who we are.
00:50:13
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our consciousness is, is so much more complex and expansive than what we actually understand. Um, it's like levels and levels layers of layers. And there are these, these various layers engaged in experiences, like simultaneously. And, and we're not aware of it because, you know, we're kind of designed like while grounded in this body to just be aware of one of these layers.
00:50:42
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at one time. But I've learned that through experience and experiments, I've been able to kind of split my awareness
00:51:01
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between various layers of experience. And so I'll be able to experience multiple levels of reality at the same time, which is kind of like a little mind blowing. And it's hard to really describe the experience. But yeah, things are much more complex than just
00:51:26
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Uh, your, your spirit leaves your body and then it comes back into it. There's a lot more going on than just that. Yeah. I've heard some people talk about other methods of acquiring that skill of being able to exist within maybe all realms of consciousness at the same time, or maybe multiple realms of consciousness at the same time. Um, and that sort of brings to mind as we were talking about UFOs and aliens as well.
00:51:56
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Have you heard of, it's called, what is it called? It's a concept where when you've done some sort of astral projection or you've seen a UFO or you've had a paranormal experience that it sort of follows you, the hitchhiker effect. That's what it's called. Have you heard of this?
00:52:17
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Um, uh, just by the term, the hitchhiker effect. Um, I don't think so, but, um, can maybe explain what it is and I'll let you know.
00:52:28
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It's essentially saying that once you've had a paranormal type of experience that it tends to follow you in other ways. And you tend to see more of these types of paranormal experiences, like say some person might see, um, like a UFO and then they might go home and they might see something really strange in their room or their family might see something really strange or they might claim to see Bigfoot or some other kind of cryptid. Um, have you ever experienced anything similar to that?
00:53:00
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Well, you know, I would say, you know, astral projection, like itself is a paranormal experience. And, um, you know, in that sense, yeah, once you get into it, it just, it opens the floodgates. Um, you know, and there's like, there's a lot of potential for a lot of different types of paranormal experiences. Um, not just astral projection, but.
00:53:30
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You know, I have had UFO sightings over the years myself. And you know, I can't say if, you know, my astral projection practice had something to do with it, or if if these aliens that that I was seeing out of my body have something to do with it, you know, you know, I did contemplate
00:53:53
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the possibility that, you know, uh, I'm, they're, they're coming to me while I'm out of my body. And now they're, they're showing themselves to me like in this physical world too, through these different UFO sightings. Um, so it's definitely possible. So what were your UFO experiences like? What did you see? Uh, the first one I had was, um, it was when I was in high school. So I think I was, um,
00:54:23
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I think I was a senior, a junior senior. So it was a couple of years after I started astral projecting and I was out of my roof one night. I used to go out onto my roof and just to look at the stars and listen to music and stuff like that. And, you know, all of a sudden this, this big circular craft
00:54:48
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It just passes right over me, probably, I don't know, a couple hundred feet above me. And I could see it was a metallic craft, but there were no lights on it. It seemed like almost like it was in stealth mode. And I can see it clearly, but it was very quiet. Like I didn't hear any noise from it and just like smoothly, the lid, but very quickly too.
00:55:17
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and I kind of freaked out and I immediately went inside and I was having these experiences with aliens out of my body and I just didn't trust them. Most of them were negative experiences and I didn't want to get abducted.
00:55:39
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And, uh, so yeah, I went back inside and, you know, over the years I've, I've seen, um, other types of lights in the sky, especially now living in Brazil. Um, I've seen, uh, quite a few sightings. Um, and you know that they say that activity like that is, is a lot more common in Brazil. And, uh, yeah, I, I agree with that for sure.
00:56:05
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Yeah, I've heard that before that in Brazil, sightings seem to be very prominent. Uh, do you find that they are ramping up and when was the last time you saw one? Uh, ramping up. Uh, I can't say, I can't say that's the case, at least not in my experience. I mean, uh, you know, I guess it started when the, the 19, uh, 40s or 50s at
00:56:34
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you know, the public kind of became aware of UFOs, the possibility of them. So like,
00:56:41
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Yeah, I think in general things are ramping up in the sense that like now governments are coming out and saying like, yeah, there are UFOs in the sky. They're not us, you know, we don't know what they are, but they exist. You know, there was a time where governments were completely silent about it or they were denying it. And most people would also deny it and say, Oh, no, that
00:57:05
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It's ridiculous, but now it's a fact, right? So yeah, things are ramping up in that sense. I mean, for me personally, um, I guess my last sighting was maybe last year. And, you know, um, I can basically have a sighting, um,
00:57:28
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Pretty frequently if I make the effort to actually go out and look Which I haven't really done Recently, but you know here where I live. There's very little Like light pollution air pollution. It's very it's very easy to see the stars and The view of the sky from here is so much more different than where I lived in the United States and
00:57:56
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It's like you can see like universes and galaxies here. And so, yeah, it's a lot easier to actually see what's going on up there from here.
00:58:09
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And so, you know, usually I'll see a light or some lights that are clearly not an airplane, right? They're moving way too fast or they're changing directions, you know, some kind of unusual, um, type of movement. And, um, yeah, you know, it's hard to say some people believe that the majority of UFOs are actually like,
00:58:37
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Um, top secret government technology. They're not actually like aliens. Right. So, you know, that I can't say for sure, for sure. Cause I've never seen who's navigating these things, but yeah, it's, it's interesting. You know, I always keep the possibility open that, you know, it is some other kind of, of life form.
00:59:03
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Yeah, definitely. Um, so what actually made you move to Brazil and how long ago did you do that? And I've been here for almost nine years and, uh, my wife is, is Brazilian. And, you know, uh, we got married and we lived in the United States for, for a while. And, uh, we just decided to move here, you know, just a change of scenery.
00:59:31
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And it's very comfortable here, man. It's a very comfortable life. And, you know, we enjoyed here. So nice, uh, nice quiet country living. Yeah, it sounds awesome. And, uh, as we approach an hour here, I want to be respectful of your time. And as we wrap up, is there anything you want to get out there to the listeners, anything you want to plug and, uh, let people know where they can find you.
01:00:00
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Yeah, for sure. I would recommend everyone check out my book. It's on Amazon. It's called Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming, spiritual revelations and out of body experiences in higher dimensions. And my name is Vincent Field. And, you know, whether you want to get into the practice yourself and start astral projecting and lucid dreaming,
01:00:29
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Or if you're just curious, you want to read some pretty cool experiences, whether you're interested in aliens or creatures, ghosts, I've had experiences with all that stuff. And so I think there's something in the book for everyone, really. But yeah, 22 years of having these experiences, I think,
01:00:57
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I think most people can learn a thing or two from this book. Like I said, it can really help to change your perspective of who you are and what this reality and what this life is all about, experiencing firsthand your true spiritual self, which most people are not able to do during this life.
01:01:25
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it can be a really life-changing thing. So I would consider trying to have your own experiences and see where it takes you. Vincent, thank you so much for coming on the show today. I really appreciate your time, man. It's been a very intriguing conversation. Definitely, man. I appreciate you having me, man. It was cool.
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