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5: Taken Aback by What I Have Learned
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The gang gets activated about their week in Snap 🔘👈
For our esteemed listeners’ consideration:
- Extra Credit: The Problem with Daredevil 🤔 (Ben had a Galactus phase 👀)
- Scarlet Spider 🕸 & Spotlight Friends 💡🤝
- Languishing Black Swans & Discarding Dreams (aka balance changes)
- 🤫 Secret Daken Homework
- Datamined Card Changes: Scorn, Surtur, & Frigga
- Ben & Rie vie to be the first champion 🏆 of Lauren’s new game, Title Tussle: Snap or Cap?! 🎉
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Transcript
Introduction and Hella Deck Discussion
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode five of Snap on This. I'm Lauren Whatevs, and with me today I have my two regular amazing co-hosts. First up, Ree, how was your weekend Snap and keep it snappy? Um, it was...
00:00:21
Speaker
It was alright. I think discussion for the week is going to be about the last 24 hours in which I have decided for the first time kind of to make a hella deck. Oh, you're going to the dark side.
00:00:40
Speaker
Yeah, after changes, because, you know, we've talked about how I, like, discard, and I've been more in the the apocalypse side of things, but we're gonna get into the patch changes, but they did change Swordmaster, and ah he discards odd numbers now, and it's another change. I don't, you know, I don't like these changes that make cards better for the meta. ah It made him worse in my deck.
00:01:08
Speaker
because sometimes I need him to discard an even cost card or apocalypse again. So I'm like, this may actually kill my time. But in their notes, they challenged. They said, maybe this will enable a new kind of hella. And I was like, well, I haven't seen hella that much for a while. So challenge accepted.
00:01:31
Speaker
And I do, the last time I actually did play Hela, it wasn't my deck. But I got a deck that was about discarding. It was Hela with Samurai and Black Bolt. You were just in stature, having them discard low cards. And on your end, you were discarding like Leader and- hu Yes, exactly. Those cards, and that's what you were bringing back with Hela. This was before her big change, and it was a lot of fun. It was like a little mini Hela, small Hela deck. And that was neat.
Rise and Fall of Hela
00:02:09
Speaker
And then Hela got meta, and that killed all the joy out of it. As it often does for everyone. Yeah, and then they had to...
00:02:18
Speaker
Oh, because of Tella. Yeah, okay. Exactly! She got to Galactus levels, didn't she? Right? Like, I mean... I think worse than Galactus levels, if you ask me. A lot harder to counter. It's a matter of opinion. Taste.
00:02:34
Speaker
Well, right, but they got to the point where they gave her a dial, like they did with Galactus. They're like, okay, we know people hate when this is on top of the meta so much that we will make sure we have the dial that we can just crank down real fast to weaken the card. I mean, but they they said it in other words that sounded better.
00:02:55
Speaker
i a the So, they had to do that to Hela anyway. so But this case, now I'm interested. So, with Swordmaster, who can now not discard Hela, right?
00:03:09
Speaker
Um, I put it with some, so interestingly now, instead of all the big cost cards, I'm like, okay, what if we put it with arrow though? Right? That's a card Swordmaster will discard. That's a nice 10 stat line. Maybe it does something for you at the end of the game. You don't know, you know? Um, still some loot cage, Hell Cow, right? Hell Cow is another change that's helping this. Um,
00:03:33
Speaker
With the two activates, you can throw it the last turn after. You can activate it and then have your hella played. ah So that's it. It's got Black Cat, you know?
00:03:43
Speaker
um So it's- The Vulture of Discards. Yes, exactly. And then I put Spider Woman and it is another five-coster, you know what I mean? That could be a 512 at the end of the game. So it's not all there yet. You know, checking it out, putting Black Knight, of course, good with those things. So that's what I've been messing around with. It's been fun. I've already been winning more than I thought I would. That's awesome.
00:04:14
Speaker
And Luke Cage is just good tech, generally, kind of right now. and So ah that's been my week.
Benjamin's Symbiote Spider-Man Strategy
00:04:24
Speaker
All right, awesome. And our other co-host, Benjamin Roller.
00:04:29
Speaker
Is here? How was your weekend snap? Uh-huh. Well, endeavoring to keep it snappy, I'll say. It's been a pretty good weekend snap. I've been trying some experimental things. I believe last week I had just built a deck inspired by something Lauren said, where I was trying to you know do the symbiote Spider-Man with Brood thing. I was using Madam Web and Iron Fist. I tried it with Aranya on her release.
00:04:59
Speaker
It was a little bit disappointing. The one thing I have liked about that deck and that that vein of things is actually Symbiote Spider-Man in Surfer in general. So right now um I'm playing a deck that I had a lot of success with last season, except I've cut Nocturne for Symbiote Spider-Man.
00:05:19
Speaker
I really, really love playing Symbiote Spider-Man on four and then Gwenpool on five because you just spit like a hulk's worth of stats into your hand and you can play them in a completely like unpredictable way because you've you've shown your opponent like nothing on the board that you're you're so uncommitted.
00:05:40
Speaker
ah and And it's a bigger, like more snappable surprise than if you play Gwenpool into Absorbing Man, which is also great. Also love to do that. I've i've been loving that for for a minute. ah But yeah, the symbiote Spider-Man version is pretty cool too. Also, you can sometimes set up a brood thing. like If you get Asteroid M, I'm always looking for Asteroid M with that deck. So I can play Brood somewhere else. The original Brood gets sucked over to Asteroid M, place the Imbiot Spider-Man there, and then do the aid you know the eight Broodlings, the eight Strength Broodlings. Eight Power, that's the word we use in Marvel Snap. They have Power, not Strength.
00:06:21
Speaker
Oh my god, that name's so Maddie. How did you not tell us this before? Grenpool? Okay, I left Grenpool with... And I didn't make a claim before that I wanted to play. Oh, this was with the upcoming Scarlet Spider, but like... That's so good. I was just telling someone how much I'm like, I I'm like, Simeon Spider-Man is terrible. I read Guardian all day, you know what I mean? Like, he's no good. And like, no, he's good. I'm like, yeah, you're right. It's just not my play style. But you're like, ah.
00:06:52
Speaker
But a double Gwenpool in one turn? That's the best use I've ever heard of for Symbiote Spider-Man. Oh, that's so good.
Lauren's Journey to Infinite Rank
00:07:00
Speaker
Did you just think of that this week? I encourage you to give it a try. ah No, I actually started doing it last week with that deck that I built like right before we recorded. that That was where I first... But yeah, I really think that Gwenpool and Symbiote Spider-Man are a dynamic duo. And Symbiote Spider-Man can do a lot of cool things in Surfer. They're just a ton of cards he does not mind bonding with.
00:07:21
Speaker
And I mean, sometimes it's just Forge. Sometimes doing double Forge on a brood is like, whoa, you know? All right. All right. Make this your Twitter share deck of the week. OK, also, if either of you ever want one of your decks in the big ugly square, I'd be happy to put it in a big ugly square. No, I just love making big ugly squares. I need this double Gwenpool in my life.
00:07:48
Speaker
I gave her a pink cosmic border. That's how much I love Bueno. I keep her at a rare border as I do for all my things, but she has a pink cosmic border in my heart. We have pink cosmic border at home. That's that's what I think of you. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. How is your week, Lauren?
00:08:15
Speaker
Yeah, my week was it was great. I finally made it to infinite, which is always a sigh of relief. No, didn't see I'm sorry. Not that that's everybody's goal or important to everybody, but it is to me and I know it's something that I can achieve as long as I put in the time. I dipped from 93 to 88. So like as a longer climb when you dip down, you don't get the bonus three ranks again.
00:08:42
Speaker
aye But I made 88 to 100 entirely using lockdown, which was just like, I know it's not everybody's jam, but it's mine. It's my home. It's my comfy deck. And it's been dead for a while. ah Brand new war machine made it viable.
00:08:59
Speaker
ah made it viable And I saw so many people doing things with Storm Legion, like we talked about. I did too! i There was a lot of it for a few days. Now it's going to be hella. Um, I didn't see hardly anybody using professor X and I did. And I think a lot of people thought he was dead, but like between war machine and, uh, madam web who can move things into professor X. I was having a ton of fun with that. Um, I stopped many plays with professor X, you know, stopping a big old venom from getting hit by Arnhem Zola, for example. Um,
00:09:35
Speaker
And it just, it felt good. It's probably been, I don't know, four or five months, I would guess, without looking at my Twitter history ah since I could take lockdown to infinite. ah So that was great. Are you playing Daredevil in your, I'm curious, in your lockdown? I was, but I'm currently doing Madam Web because it's like, if I mess up the Professor X, I can fix it. No, I mean, I also never, I also always cut Daredevil and I want to play him more. So I'm interested in...
00:10:06
Speaker
How do you feel about Daredevil, Ben? Sorry, I was like sidetracked, I'm really curious. I haven't played Daredevil since my Galactus phase. And if you're saying Ben, you had a Galactus phase? Yes! Yeah, it was a while ago. I think maybe the first time I got to Infinite, I was playing Galactus. I don't even think I was Series 3 complete. I might be like, it was a long time ago. We're talking a while.
00:10:32
Speaker
but Yeah, I think that's how I first got infinite was with the Galactus deck. What was I missing? Maybe I was missing Electro? I was missing something pretty... Like a key piece? Yeah. But I got Daredevil eventually, like partway through that season, I think. And I haven't really messed with them since, and I'm a fan of the character. I... I know! I like Daredevil. He's got great hands. I wish I had more reasons to play.
00:11:00
Speaker
He's got the ghost problem, where it's like, you're like, I'll hand a pride on my own. I don't fucking need ghosts. It's the same thing with the Daredevil. It's like, I'll just read what they're going to do in turn five. yeah like It's always like, well, I could do without this. Right, right, right. You don't want to have it. It's that you cut it for a different card because you're like, I'll do Daredevil myself. And therefore, I can fit in a different two drop. Is that not kind of what's going on in your head, though? That's exactly it it. Like, it doesn't seem.
00:11:30
Speaker
like mandatory it's not like it's not foundational to the to the thing you're trying to build even though it is like a nice tree to plant I think Ghost is the perfect comparison because it's like, yeah, if you if you have an incredible player skill, you don't need that at all. Sometimes Ghost, you know, so you can't always throw a pry out when you want. Don't tell us what we can't do, Ben! You're right, but I also i think Ghost is just awkward. There's just not very many decks that
00:12:03
Speaker
get ahead but don't want to be ahead. I don't know. um And you're slowing down from the whole getting ahead thing to play a card that isn't doing a whole lot. yeah Maybe that's it. Maybe she just needs to be bigger tempo. But then it's like, but what are you doing with the one turn you throw? Is it is it a huge like tempo rush and then you suddenly do Shang and Shadow King? I don't know. Daredevil I think is great, but I usually want multiple reasons I'm running him.
00:12:29
Speaker
ah yeah You know, Gamora and Professor X are like a hobgoblin or my very favorite ah is ti Titania. Titania, whatever. I think that that combination is excellent because it lets you play her early instead of as a turn six play and ensure that you are clogging a lane with her.
The Aranya Card and Its Potential
00:12:48
Speaker
I also don't fear a Daredevil anymore. You use the C when you're like, ah, fuck. Yeah. And now I see a, whatever. Try and stop me. Like, you know? A 2-2? Times have changed. I just, I have this great Daredevil in the rain variant. I want to play it. My own ego prevents me from falling apart. Oh, I know the one where he's all like, huh.
00:13:08
Speaker
Yeah, it's so good. And anyway, okay, that was cool. I'm glad to I was glad to hear you said so. I rock the one with him in front of the church. Anyway, I will move on. We're gonna go to first impressions of the new card. Rania a one one with activate give the next card you play plus two power and move it to the right. It was my number one card of the season going into the season.
00:13:35
Speaker
ah But tell me, did did you two did you get it? What are your thoughts? I got it. I confess I was a little disappointed that she's not Forge.
00:13:49
Speaker
She doesn't do the Forge thing. No, uh, no brood goodness there. Also, gosh, she really does just announce what's coming. Wait, can we pause? So let's clarify what you were saying, Ben. What you meant was that Aranya works like Nikko's timing or the location at May. It's after the card is played, despite what the text says. It's somewhat misleading. It works like Aunt May's.
00:14:17
Speaker
I think... I think Aunt May's works with the timing that it does because it's a location, so it happens like... So Niko, right? It's like after the on-reveal happens, Niko's effect happens, but it was written like a forge. That's just not how it's written, which is frustrating. Glenn acknowledged that in a team answer. Yeah, he was like, it wasn't the best text, and I think it will be rewritten to match Iron Fist and Niko, but I wish instead they changed her ability to work like forges. She would be way better. I spent those teams without hesitation with the assumption that I'd be getting up to some brood shenanigans.
00:14:50
Speaker
Yeah, a lesson in in waiting until Friday or to to spend keys, right? like I mean, I would have gotten this card anyway. It's fine, but I could see how someone might be you know a little bit upset and feel like they wouldn't have spent those keys or whatever. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Aranya's fine. I'm looking forward to playing her more, but I'm not super high on her right now.
00:15:15
Speaker
Um, so I actually, maybe a bit of the opposite experience. You know I was low on, I am low on all activate cards. It's not my play style. I hate telegraphed plays like that. I don't like cards I can't play in turn six, so I was not hot on Aranya. And I actually probably wouldn't have even played her anymore, except for I'm like, ah, fuck, I'm doing a podcast now.
00:15:39
Speaker
If I have the new card, I should probably not be like, nah, I just didn't want to play her, so. What I did, and I knew Ben was covering move, and Lauren was covering fun, probably. So I'm like, let me throw her in destroy.
00:15:57
Speaker
Right? And I was surprised that she makes a great Nico. Like, that's who I put her in for. I still wanted X-23 for the extra thing. This is kind of a classic destroy, but it's got a Tuma now. And then for funsies, I threw in Lady Deathstrike over like Zola. Oh, yeah.
00:16:15
Speaker
um But I was surprised because I love Niko and I would never steal Niko in all times. My little seven tools toolbox. My queen of Witchfire. I love her. But Arana is a guaranteed plus two to Deadpool, ah which is not... You don't always get with Niko because you know Niko does what she wants.
00:16:41
Speaker
and um And so like my very first game with this, I immediately had Iranian Deadpool in my hand to start with. And it happened a decent amount where I just started with her and it was just like, great, put her down when I get that Deadpool. Like, you know, and then also you I could if I wanted to instead, because I was in short, I could use her in and like an X 23 or Wolverine or whatever, you know, and then She's a one-drop that will die to activate death, you know? And I think the lesson here is that most cards just work with Destroy because what doesn't love to get eaten and what doesn't love to be buffed in Destroy, you know?
00:17:22
Speaker
um So I actually ended a little hotter on her than I thought I would be in that like who thought I would like any card over Nikko in a deck ever at all for any reason. This is troubling. um you You seem to be alright. I'm doing okay. ah You know, maybe Nikko needed the break from me to be honest.
00:17:43
Speaker
I got it. So yeah, so she was she's good. She's good with, you know, and she's a guaranteed plus two for your Deadpool. I mean, with fewer options than you might get from Nico, but always the option. So that's my take. What about you, Lauren? What did you do with her? I definitely got her. And I wait, did you get your sage variant? No.
00:18:07
Speaker
Oh. Are you going to spend keys? No. I got the Ms. Marvel for, oh, it looks, I haven't, I haven't inked already. It looks, that variant looks so good inked. It's so good. And I think I already bragged. I have that variant cover in real life. Brag, brag. Okay. Moving on. I've had all of Ms. Marvel since she was created. I have her entire comics line. I got her, yes, ah when she first came out, but, um,
00:18:36
Speaker
But then I got her first and then Aranya and I wanted, and then I was like, ah, no, Sage of Thieves. There'll be more Sage variants you like. There'll be more. ah You can spend 2400 gold into in a year, you know? There will be more, right? If you want to, if that's interesting. I'll say that and we'll get, it'll be only, oh well. ah There'll be two more Sages by then, you're right.
00:19:03
Speaker
times I got the Ms. Marvel first, which is kind of what I... Well, I got Sage first. I got the Ms. Marvel... That's not how you got Sage. Sorry, I'm glad you got her. I will live vicariously through you. Okay, yeah, sure. I want to see your ink to Ms. Marvel. um I did get her before Aranya, which I wanted, because if I didn't, I would i would have stopped spending keys.
00:19:25
Speaker
It was a three key week for me. it At least I missed that like the random card, right? I have not been able to use her that much. I've tried her in like four different decks and it just Haven't put her to the board that often and I don't know like just bad luck. I haven't played enough with her ah But my first thought was actually Phoenix force I'm like this is Nico is cool in Phoenix force, but the thing you want is the move and the plus two and Guaranteed with Aranya like the only the only thing we're missing is destroyed to draw to which is nice, but uh Yeah, ah it was it was fun, but I feel like I'm still
00:20:09
Speaker
The jury's still out. I need to play something else with her. I'm going to throw her into lockdown or something and something silly. I know before I thought she'd be a good fit into my hand dump deck, so maybe I'll figure out how to do that. I want to see you around you, Professor X. I want there to be a situation where that's like the perfect play.
00:20:29
Speaker
Yeah, I jam him into some location that's empty, that's hard to reach. Put him but them on hard to reach i put them on Sanctum Sanctorum and then your opponent can't doom there.
Scarlet Spider Strategies
00:20:47
Speaker
Okay, next week's card, Scarlet Spider is a 4-5, another activate, a high cost activate. Add an exact clone of this to another location.
00:21:03
Speaker
I think it's too good. think it's oh yeah i think I think that's too many numbers, too many places. um Yeah, just the fact that it's two lanes and like super premium stats just without any assistance. You don't even have to like push at all down the hill like, dang, a 410 on two lanes. That's just, i we should all probably want to play that card, right? I don't know.
00:21:30
Speaker
if we're into winning lanes and stuff, which I think we all are. Without Energy Cheat, there's only two turns you can play him on, though. I hate that. That's true, but you'll want to play him. So inflexible. I just love flexibility in cards. I do, too, but I mean... But that's the trade-off, is power. There's two turns. That's good enough. Like, you can forge. I mean, any hand buff stuff, I mean, I'm just gonna throw him in surfer stuff probably. Might cut something. I don't know.
00:21:59
Speaker
But the thing is too, it's one where it could have a high win rate but not a high cube rate because you can see it coming and you can retreat.
00:22:12
Speaker
Or you can shadow king or shong it, right? That's been the one thing that has held me back on my Scarlet Spider opinion is I think that high win right, low Q rate, very telegraphed. They can only shong it if you make it too big. If you get silly with it. And sure they can shadow king it, but you still got a 4-10. People are not able to contain themselves. The 4 is so high on this card. It's just...
00:22:39
Speaker
Except at the very high end. I do think that if you get greedy, you will get punished perhaps sometimes, but also just don't get greedy. Just settle for a 4-10 or a 4-14 or whatever you get. Like, that's still pretty darn good. Yeah, 4-17 with Reach, something like that. I think people would be greedy. 17. I don't know how you got an odd one, but maybe. Yeah, I don't either.
00:23:04
Speaker
um Yeah, i I don't know about, like, super busted. You have to buff him up a bunch. You have to get greedy for him to be super busted, right? Like... Maybe. I kind of like him playing. 4-10 is great, but it's like, it's Dr. Doom level stats. Dr. Doom's a pretty good card and also... Pretty good, but not busted. This is a card that you don't have to take up your entire turn six to play. Like, this is a... You can still do something else spectacular at the end of the game.
00:23:36
Speaker
He does go with Chavez and Akoya, who I love to play. Yeah, it just feels like a very efficient thing that requires very little homework. And Nikia. Symbiote Spider-Man. That's what I'm speaking with Aranya, actually. Well, does it go with Symbiote Spider-Man? If you activate Symbiote first. Oh, because then he loses the activate ability. Oh, that's so weird. OK.
00:24:02
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, we all assumed that that that was sort of the intention with Symbiote Spider-Man, I think. Like, oh. Yeah. How it happens? On reveals and activates. But nope, just on reveals. It's like a flag. If a card has been activated, it is always activated. If you bounce it, if you aren't on Zola, it is activated. And so that's a problem with Symbiote Spider-Man is if he copies an activate card, you can't use that text because he's already been activated.
00:24:31
Speaker
okay but shall be weird I think it's a weird choice. I feel like Shadow King is the choice for when this card comes out. To ruin everyone's day, probably. I don't think it's going to ruin the day hard enough. I i don't know. We'll see. We're a Red Guardian. Red Guardian does so much work for me. A Red Guardian is, yeah, a very good card. Big fan of Red Guardian right now. Playing playing a lot of Red Guardian.
00:24:59
Speaker
right I feel like I wasn't planning on getting him, but if I did, I would just throw him in my my buff deck with Shaba's Nikita play. I think this card goes down to 4-4 maybe by the end of the month. I don't know. That's just a hunch. We shall see.
00:25:18
Speaker
um Okay, well I do have, unless, if we don't have any more thoughts, I will hype man White Widow as a spotlight friend. Talk about Scarlet Spiders spotlight friends. Okay, going straight to White Widow, she is a great card. She is a card like Jeff, I will just throw in a deck if I am like, ooh, do I have room for White Widow? Huzzah! She's so good, right? Like a bar set.
00:25:49
Speaker
Am I thinking of the right location? Is this Bar Sinister? No, Bar Sinister. Bar Sinister is a free win, yeah. Yeah, it's a free win on turn two. Space Throne. They, you know, if they didn't counter it, Space Throne. Right? Because she's a turn earlier than Green Goblin, which used to win all those lanes. You can throw her in later, though, to maybe fill a lane, you know, that they left only one spot in. Like, she's so good in so many scenarios. And completely risk-free, unlike those goblins.
00:26:18
Speaker
You cannot burn yourself with her. The Unrisky Clog is is powerful. um Yeah, she's just a great card. She's good in mini archetypes. um Highly recommend. Yeah, if you don't have her, she's just she's the two that can go everywhere, like Jeff and like Kate Bishop. Yeah. And then our other spotlight friend is Scar, who is good in certain decks.
00:26:43
Speaker
you know I've played this card less than 10 times.
00:26:49
Speaker
Who's your favorite Hulk? Oh, She-Hulk. She-Hulk. I don't play any of these cards, but like in principle, I approve of She-Hulk. She can cost less than six. Wait, Scar can too. um He's harder to cost less than six.
00:27:07
Speaker
Yeah. Where are we seeing them a lot? Thanos type decks, right where people are playing cool obsidian. Mockingbird used to be it, but since she just got dropped down to nine, um Sasquatch, like people are you know where people are putting out high, you know like crossbones.
00:27:25
Speaker
I always associate Scar with Gunny T's Big Dumb Idiots. ah That's ah just a very strong archetype that usually there's some good version of it running around, and i I had a lot of fun doing weekend missions with that deck. It performed very well, and I don't play it regularly, but you can't do it without Scar very much.
00:27:46
Speaker
the the star of the dish. What are the other, give a give another couple top cards from that deck. I know I'm not super. Oh gosh. the All the things that are 10, you know, like you play like discounted stuff, you play armor. I don't have the list in front of me. I think maybe it had war path in it or Namor. It had like some weird card. Does war path go to 10 now? Mm-hmm. Okay. I forgot that buff. I never play war path, sadly. Who does? It's an amazing real wolf variant.
00:28:16
Speaker
I think Cull Obsidian was, in the you know, Cull type cards. Big things that have 10 power, reduce Scar. Yeah, it was just like very efficient and ah good deck. Recommend. I'm not sure what the current version looks like, but that's that's what I associate with Scar. Me too.
00:28:37
Speaker
But I think he's he's just an okay card. I agree.
Black Swan's New Ability Impact
00:28:43
Speaker
If you don't enjoy that kind of gameplay, and I, you know, I don't really like big cards famously, or not and maybe not famously, but in case this is breaking news, I'm team small cards for life. And Scar is not a small card, even though he pretends. For comparison, like Red Hulk is a more versatile card, I think, you know, as a kind of statistic counter.
00:29:06
Speaker
um over Scar, who is more like, you need to build for Scar, you know, a bit more. I agree. Okay, we had a patch on Tuesday, not as big as I was expecting, hardly any things in the data mines, but we did have some balance changes.
00:29:28
Speaker
Uh, two of them were foretold ahead of time or teased, uh, Black Swan and Hell Cow getting activate abilities, but also stat changes. So Black Swan goes to activate until the end of next turn. Your one cost cards cost zero and she's a two, three. Have either of you tried her? I confess I have not. No.
00:29:54
Speaker
I didn't play a lot of Old Black Swan outside of Weekend Missions, the month of release. and um i don't i mean This just isn't really a card for me. Even though I am team small cards, I like things that cost 2 and 3 more than 1. So I don't know. i I could see myself maybe using her. This seems to me like more of a side grade than a strict upgrade, but it's probably better this way, right? I'm just not an expert on that kind of bounce deck. I feel like this changes her a bit. Yeah, it's just a different card. I used her before. It was like this, and it was fun. I had fun with her when I played her. It was like a drop deck, you know what I mean? Like on turn five with like Hit Monkey, it was a deck I got from Chase.
00:30:41
Speaker
And it was pretty fun, but that's where you would see her. Now she works a lot better with balance, where I feel like she wasn't as much of a balance card before. That's just my take from someone who doesn't like it.
00:30:57
Speaker
um ah But but she's still good in the old style deck, because right now you can still just, I mean, even better, you can choose when to activate her. But I think this makes her more versatile into more like specific bo specifically bounce styles.
00:31:15
Speaker
I think you could like time it out with Falcon to, you know, make your Falcon basically act as a beast and stuff. So you can could already do that before this turn five black swan Falcon. I just I think this offers you a little bit more like flexibility and how you want to like when you want to do that. And yeah, I i guess more flexibility is good. Although I do love a three five and I love a two three less.
00:31:42
Speaker
It's also it's more flexibility but more telegraphed. Yeah, that too. ah Just like the fact that you can't play her on 5 anymore, kind of that At least as I imagine it. This is all speculative, I'm not playing these decks. I just think she's a very inflexible card. like there's There's one deck that she goes in, right? like You can make small tweaks to it, but there's not even that much. like There's only a handful of one-cost cards you want to bounce. There's only two bounce enablers. like There's really not a lot of variety in a good bounce deck that rocks Black Swan. Although, when ah when Toxin shows up, um that's that's the bounce beast, the bounce carnage. The bounce symbiote. The beast carnage thing. um huh like that might be It might be nice to have another way to play your things discounted.
00:32:33
Speaker
You know, because yeah I could see that raising her stocks a little bit. We'll see, right? People that play these decks more than we do. We'll trial them out. um i think I think Black Swan out of every activate card we've seen so far, she's the one to test like how big of a hit is activate. Yeah.
00:32:57
Speaker
What's the trade-off? Is it worth going from a 3.5 to 2.3 to get the activate flexibility? I feel like this might not give us all the answers there just because Black Swan was already just such a a card with narrow
Hell Cow and Discard Strategies
00:33:11
Speaker
usage. So niche, yeah. like I don't think we can draw broad conclusions. I think it's better that you can play her earlier and then trigger her ability later. I think that improves her. I just can't see how that doesn't make what her functionality, what you actually want her for, better.
00:33:28
Speaker
Being able to play your bet earlier and having that energy later on for other things and you can activate it, it's like how does that not make this card better in my mind? I think that this one is worth reading some of the patch notes for. They said, it's possible this update won't land Black Swan in a better position, and we're open to a reversion in that case. However, the risk seemed appropriate given Black Swan has been languishing on multiple metrics.
00:33:54
Speaker
What's the worst that could happen? They're like, is it going to help? People can't clear any less than they already did. Doesn't hurt. Yeah. Yeah. Health Cow, on the other hand, ah goes from 4-8 to 4-6 and changes to an activate. Discard two cards from your hand. And I think most people are on team. This is a big upgrade.
00:34:18
Speaker
And a big buff to Hella. Just what everybody wanted. Just what everyone wanted. oh um
00:34:32
Speaker
I did have someone ask me, so I just want to also clarify here in case anyone didn't know. Someone was like, well, if you have Apoc, will you discard him twice from your hand if you just have Apocalypse? And the answer is no, because he works like Corvus Glaive, where it is discard two cards like at the same time, basically. And if you do not have two... It picks them at the same time. Right. So if you don't have two, it will not discard the same one twice.
00:34:58
Speaker
Similarly, can't discard a swarm and then the swarm created by that swarm. Yes. Yeah, totally. So yeah, this makes the cards so much better, right? like i mean And this is what they've been doing to all discard cards, to all discard cards, is taking them from random discard and making them more targeted. And yes, this isn't targeted in that it targets specific cards in your hand, but it's targeted and you can specify the timing and specifically in play with things like Hella, where you can, you know,
00:35:31
Speaker
play hell activate hello hell cow and then have your hella played. and If you save hell cows activate for the last turn there are very few discard decks that care what you discard at that point or like that are yeah harmed by what you discard at that point. It's like there are only good things. and Well if you stop Dracula from getting infinite maybe but then you're probably not playing hell cow. Yeah some things gone wrong there if you're in that situation I think. I still don't want to put Hell Cow in my Apocalypse deck, probably, but maybe good now. Maybe I put it in for Swordmaster, actually, since now Swordmaster can't discard the other card in that because it's a strong guy deck. So, you know, maybe in that sense it does go, um but it's so much better of a card now.
00:36:19
Speaker
I've been looking for, because i'm I'm very much not a hella player, I'm looking for ways to fold it into some kind of cool, more apocalypsey discard deck. um But i haven't I haven't built one yet, but I'm assembling thoughts. I don't know. Maybe I'll have more thoughts on Hell Count next week, who knows.
00:36:40
Speaker
Both in in your weekly recapri and now, it's got me thinking, like, has anybody tried playing with symbiote spider-man on modok?
Swordmaster's Updated Rule
00:36:49
Speaker
It kind of does the same thing. Obviously, he's harder to hit because you have to have nothing lower than a five cost in that lane. But you could hit modok twice, fire him off again right before hella.
00:37:01
Speaker
When you're trying to hit, when you're trying to hit modoc twice though, it's because you're doing like, Helicarrier, Collector, Moby-ish shit. like That's usually what you're trying to do with a multiple modocs. If you had some buffed swarms in your hand, I could see a double modoc play, like suddenly you got like... But not last turn.
00:37:24
Speaker
No, no, but I mean, on whole oh, but you could do it on the same turn. Yeah. Like if you had like two, seven, seven power swarms that you'd gotten through, you know, hand buffing or fast dose or, you know, like whatever.
00:37:39
Speaker
And it would be cute. It could be cute, but maybe not practical. But what you're doing is adding layers of complication to get to that step, which is why usually when you're double modocking, it's because that can happen last turn. You know what I mean? That can, because you've already got your Mobius, your Collector out, and then you're like long modocking or something. All right. So I think it's a good idea, but I think it's like what are you trying to do with that double modock, you know?
00:38:08
Speaker
versatile enough to be a deck plan. This is why I don't really love discard. I just like the the good discard stuff is just, it's too, I don't know, Hela and Black Knight just feel too samey to me. I want to do silly things with discard and and the silly things aren't good. um Collector discard's my favorite. For you to to give me some discard and for me to kill all your dreams. For you to discard my dreams.
00:38:36
Speaker
You got your dreams. These are episode time. That's a release on reveal. Alright, one more discard card this week. Swordmaster, 3-7, kept the stats, ah but now only discards, odd cost cards. I assumed you would not like this change.
00:38:57
Speaker
Yeah, but I like finding the perfect little corners for these cards. And then when they buff them, so they're better meta that ruins that ruins the house I built for them.
00:39:10
Speaker
So I'm sad. I'm sad that Discard, like it was a challenge to working ah <unk>s working randomness in Discard to perfectly plan, like, okay, I mean, you know, the way Cerebro players get some kind of like, enjoy and of controlling all their numbers down to the same number. You know, I had a joy out of how could I build a deck that can benefit from chaos.
00:39:35
Speaker
And they're taking, they've taken that away in almost every aspect, like blade, every card that's needed in a buffet in discard has gotten rid of randomness. And it's like, yeah it's, you know.
00:39:49
Speaker
It's taken away what I loved about it. I've been like trying to think of like, what are the new opportunities that we can harness? I mean, like, what what's, what's so cool about discarding an odd cost card? Cause that's not apocalypse. That's not swarm. That's not proxima midnight. And the two things that I would be excited to discard are X 23.
00:40:09
Speaker
And Morimasa shard, is this Dokken's moment for a comeback? Did he ever truly arrive in the first place? um I don't know. i don't i'm I'm just like, those are the two odd cost things I'm excited to discard. cowmaster And Widmaster and Deken, which suddenly goes into a surfer. Are we surfing? A strong guy in the mix? Who knows?
00:40:33
Speaker
with surfing with x23 instead of angel and but with dakken and and now it's sort of a discard version oh you're great then there's always new fun to be had i want it to be cool because like i do like that he's like big and overstated and does a thing that i do know i'm doing this then I'm putting together this deck this week. It's going to be a surfer disc card with decan and X 23. I love it. Are you going to find a way to get multiple Muramasa shards or multiple Dawkins in the first place? There's probably still hope in there. Yeah. ah Okay. All right. if if if ah If you want to cook this too.
00:41:20
Speaker
Oh, yeah, let's oh, let's do it. Do we want to a dock and cook challenge? Secret homework for next week. Okay, let's see how if we make the same deck or different decks. Wait, okay, but is the challenge is it gonna force us into the same deck? Because we've already talked about these several cards that would be gonna be totally different. They're gonna look different. I promise. Is this a dock and cook challenge? A sword master cook challenge? Or you have to use both?
00:41:49
Speaker
Those are the two prescribed cards. Those are the two prescribed cards. Lord Master and Dokken, I'll warn you now. I'm playing Silver Surfer. Me too. I mean, you don't have to, Lorian. Be you. Be the one. Be the different. Be the non-surfer you want to be. Yeah. Okay. Valkyrie enters some shit.
00:42:09
Speaker
No, I know. That doesn't make any sense. Don't do that. I'm going to clone lots of Muramasha's shards just to c just to hit them with Valkyrie. But are there are there any odd cost things that are good to discard that I like missed? No, that's what they specifically said in the notes. They're like, well, we kept them at seven because Moon Knight actually works with shit now. It is it is dodging Ghost Rider and Hela.
00:42:35
Speaker
Yeah. So there's like that, there's the pro side to it. Which is why I was making the hella deck, but. You do exempt your even costs from the risk. The other thing is like you could just have him be a huge statistic in a deck that doesn't have odd cards, but that just seems so weird. Like,
Game Cosmetics and Player Reactions
00:42:54
Speaker
h odd cards are better than even cards. One, three, and five is cheaper than two, four, and six. Okay. That's the homework. That's the rules. Dakan and Swordmaster. There were a couple more changes that have been discovered that weren't in the patch notes. There are now rainbow cosmic and black cosmic borders in the light cosmetics shop. ah They're both available for 1000 tokens each.
00:43:23
Speaker
I've seen a lot of people be upset about this. I think it makes sense to have a sink for players who have too many tokens, which do exist, right? The whales, they have every card and every ultimate variant and nothing else to spend tokens on.
00:43:41
Speaker
I mean, and it's cosmetics and there's reasonable chances we see them as rewards and conquest or login rewards at some point, you know, I'll be happy whenever I can get my free one. Yeah. I don't think either of them are vivid enough like they're not.
00:44:00
Speaker
if If the Rainbow Cosmic was gorgeous, I might spend a thousand for like my Valkyrie or something, but it's kind of bland. I got v i have all the cards first, but it's good for whales. yeah That's the whole sixth of a card. I'm not, no. Not for me. i I'll be dumb for a card I love. um Yes, be dumb for love, Lauren. Encourages. The one thing I wish, I wish they had just made the whole cosmetic shop like use tokens or gold, like for everything you can choose. And then they wouldn't have to worry so much about balancing the economy. They could just let players figure it out themselves between tokens and gold. ah These currencies are very silly.
00:44:45
Speaker
Yeah, I will say the more currencies, the more confusing and unfriendly a game gets. Yeah, they serve only to obfuscate how much Marvel's Snap-a-Dollar is worth. It's just, yeah, it's good for you. I've definitely installed games, and then there's like, here are your 15 different currencies. And I'm like, no, thank you. I will not be learning all these. But yeah, so I don't know. We're not there yet.
00:45:10
Speaker
I mean, we've got hundred in order to make good decisions we've got hundreds of currencies if you count every booster as a different currency. um But yeah, like general use currencies, we've got what, four-ish? Credits, tokens, gold keys? Yep. um Okay. And 20 deck slots.
00:45:37
Speaker
What quest do we have to complete to increase our wallet size? It would be so cool if you could just like, every season pass give us a new deck slot. like
00:45:51
Speaker
I'm sure people would pay for deck slots. um i I don't think they should have to. I think that's very silly. Yeah, Lauren, wait! Stop! Stop with your ideas! A change that I love in the patch is that you can now use emotes to name your decks. Before there were like 20 emotes you could use, ah but now you can use pretty much all of them. And that rules. Yup.
00:46:22
Speaker
I will be using this a lot. and it's cool I haven't yet. Yeah, there's definitely gonna be an all angry emojis. Deck face for certain days. Right. Okay, we're gonna move on to datamined cards that changed. First up is Scorn, a change to an oc October card. ah Stats are the same, one, two.
00:46:47
Speaker
But the ability has changed slightly. It used to be when you discarded her, she gave her power to a card on the board and then returned to your hand with one extra power.
Scorn and Surtr Card Updates
00:46:58
Speaker
Now when you discard her, she gives two power instead of her own power. She gives a flat two to a card on the board and returns to your hand with two power.
00:47:09
Speaker
So like her growth rate is buffed, but the amount that she's giving to the board is a lot smaller. ah Depending on how many times you were going to discard her. I was planning to discard her a lot. So I'm not really into her anymore. um She just seems good now and not busted in a silly combo. So our resident discard players, tell me what you think.
00:47:33
Speaker
I think it depends a lot on how many times you're going to discard her. It seemed from the table that you assembled that I have seen, but perhaps the listener has not, ah like three seems to be a great number of times to discard Scorn in either form, like the the new version.
00:47:51
Speaker
is good to discard three times, but if you discarded a fourth time, it is now worse than it would have been the other way, if if I recall correctly from what I've been shown. um One thing about this new version of Scorn is that if you happen to end up discarding it for Dracula, it's better, ah because I believe it'll get the plus two power on that final Dracula discard, which I don't think it would have gotten.
00:48:17
Speaker
from, ah because like I'm reading the original text or the previously datamined text of Scorn, and I think that Dracula would check for Scorn's stats before the return to hand with plus one power, but <unk> with It should. With with Apocalypse, it gets Apocalypse' new power after the discard from Dracula, so I imagine yeah Scorn would work the same.
00:48:42
Speaker
I think she would too, but old scorn was only one. She only grew by one each time and new scorn grows by two each time. So her own body is a lot bigger. So yes, better for Dracula. And also it's a lot more important now that you actually play scorn.
00:48:57
Speaker
Um, yeah, I agree. It is important unless you're looking at the wording of apocalypse. And he says, when you discard this, put it back with plus four power. And so the reason I thought that the old version of scorn wouldn't get the Dracula check is that the discard happens and then the power gets added after like it's already back in your hand. or something, I don't know. This is a rules interaction with a version of the card that is not going to be released, so it's not super important.
00:49:27
Speaker
on love i mean she would I was to get her because you know i do I do enjoy a discard deck um and i I still just want to discard her and a lot. I'm going to have fun with it. I like her. I'm not bummed out at all. um Yeah, I don't think this card got worse for any purposes except Lauren makes a ridiculous clip of Lauren that got discarded 20 times. When I saw table, I'm like, everything after three kind of doesn't matter.
00:50:00
Speaker
It's a deal breaker for me. um she She's good, but she's not busted. And she was going to be busted if you could discard her a bunch of times, um which sounded fun to me. um Just being like just a good discard card, card that's that's not good enough for me to buy you. I haven't bought Moxmar Corvus. Like, ah why would i why would I buy Scorn if she's just good?
00:50:24
Speaker
But she feels like guess she's going to be a good like staple like if you enjoy this card. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah, this is a strong card. And I think like as long as you don't need to play, ah like as long as you have one energy to spend on her. For Sword Master. Yeah.
00:50:44
Speaker
Right, and and she's a one you want to discard, not like meek, right? And she doesn't need to be sitting on the board vulnerable to Killmonger. So, yeah. I was like, she's friends with X-23, just like in the comics. The clones face a lot of score in itself. I'm not familiar with the actual character scoring, but, you know, metaphorically. Misery and- Okay. Any pun, like, plays with decks and stuff.
00:51:14
Speaker
You know it. ah Okay. ah Moving on, our November season pass card, I believe. Surtr goes from a 3-3. After you play a card with 10 or more power, you get plus 4 power. Well, this gets plus 4 power. Now a 2-2 that gets plus 3 power when you play a card with 10. So i easier to get to the board, but slightly smaller growth.
Frigga Card Analysis
00:51:44
Speaker
Still seems good to me if you play 10 power cards.
00:51:53
Speaker
Yeah, I just like it. Yeah, seems strong. still Still very good, not as good, but it was clearly too good. I think just as ah as an observer, not not even as someone who would have been testing that, ah that looked a bit much to me, the the plus four.
00:52:13
Speaker
um I still think it's a very good card. It's a good trade-off, getting to play a turn earlier. because you want all That gives you two extra turns. Once you start getting four above, you want to be playing those ten-cost cards, which are going to take up yes all of your energy. so Now you have the chance to play them on two or three versus before maybe just three.
00:52:34
Speaker
you know Yeah, I think he is definitely a Skar friend. So if Skar is a card that you like or are interested in, or vice versa, if Surcher is a card you're interested in, maybe go for Skar this week.
00:52:49
Speaker
um Frigga, another November card, and this is it for the patch. like we We usually get a whole season's worth of new cards, and it's like, this is the only card that went from no text to text. She's a four-six, with the on-reveal, add a copy of the last card you played to your hand, if able. This is one of Nico's spells, right? But reliable. But also at four-cost. Yeah, but like,
00:53:21
Speaker
Niko's clone spell, if it was if it was reliably, ah if if it was always the clone spell, it would be completely broken at one cost. Okay, but here is my problem when I first looked at this card. I have so much to say about this card, to be honest. When I first looked at it, I'm looking at it, though, and and yes, I love Nikko's copy spell. Copy a cheap stature, I'll copy a Venon. You know what I mean? You copy anything. But costs one. You can throw her in kind of anywhere with that.
00:53:52
Speaker
Freya, what you're copying, unless you're playing her on turn five, right? Not turn six, unless, because it's something you will then have to play, then you want to play her on four or five, which means you're copying something that you played that's like a three cost or less, probably, right? Or at most a four cost.
00:54:11
Speaker
And then you also are then playing that card again. So what are you wanting to copy and then play again that's cheaper than three that you're giving up your for your entire like turn four and five for? It's just such a detour. I just realized she copies the last card, not the next card. Right. And then you need to play that card again. And she costs four to do that for a card that needs to be cheap enough that you can both play it and then play it after. So I looked at this card and this born in bed, I looked at this card and I ah come to you with this challenge. I'm like, how do I like, cause everyone's like, this is a card you'll love. Like I should love, right? But I look at it and I see this challenge of what do I want to copy? but
00:54:56
Speaker
But I was saying this when I was looking at the patch on stream and community came through. It's like this triumph of this week, right, is that um my community had so many great ideas for this card. So first, just to keep it simple and easy, as we found with Aranya Ezer, where I started going with it is like, Okay, destroy. Destroy can fit a lot of things. You might want to copy a Deadpool, you know what I mean, that you would then play again. um You might want to copy a Venom. It's like things that you don't know where to fit kind of sometimes can just fit and destroy. Who doesn't want to put a Grandmaster in destroy maybe, you know what I mean? It's just
00:55:36
Speaker
Just a home for a lot of things. You want to double up on a lot of things. You can eat power and repurpose it. And a death, right? If you could get a death out that early, maybe you'd copy it. But that's simplistic. And honestly, is that going to supplant other cards in the Destroy Deck?
00:55:57
Speaker
I don't know, maybe not, but then, and now I bring to our our wombat combat moment of the podcast. My first idea, what if this brings back Shuri Kitty? What if you play Shuri Kitty on turn, oh shit, I just lost it, but you could play You play Shuri on turn four, Kitty and Frigga on turn five. Yes. There we go. Right? And get yourself two giant kitties. I love a Kitty Shuri. It's been not been super viable for a while. that um and That's That's a good way to revive that in a world where it's a lot harder to use Taskmaster with Kitty now.
00:56:41
Speaker
right and see um so i'm like that's a neat idea and then um our friend equinox came in with some meme ideas that were pretty glorious she's like now hear me out cerebro six um copy yourself a hood Or a cerebral. Or, or just forget C6. Play sunspot turn one. Nothing.
00:57:13
Speaker
guys Sunspot. I have tried that with Taskmaster. It's not great. It would be funny, though. You could also put in Zola as a backup to your Frigga. Just Zola, you're a huge Sunspot.
00:57:30
Speaker
um ah My friend Yami came in with the idea of, well, what if this is a discard to Ken Halcao? kind of thing. Maybe you could fit Frigga in there, you know? Copy yourself some more, copy yourself another shard that you're going to discard with Hellcat on the last turn, you know what I mean? um And then somebody said Mockingbird because like when do you not want to copy a Mockingbird to be off because she's a great card. So there are uses for her.
00:58:02
Speaker
I just thought it was great, because I looked at it, I saw the challenges I had with what am I going to do with this card at that cost point, you know what I mean? And it was just fun that immediately everyone came in with all these fun ideas. And I was like, yes, I do want to surey-kitty this. Yes, I do want to meme around. So we'll see. And she could change. Maybe her stat lines will change before she comes out. Yeah. I would be very excited about this card at a different stat line. Three five doing it for me um those are ah those are all Like very interesting and like resourceful creative ideas very cool. I like the innovation I She seems wildly impractical at four six to me Play Surfer, and then you play Frigga on Wong, and then you have two surfers for turn six. I know, but that gives you so little turns. There are so many other ways to double to hit the Han surfer. Wait, wait, see? The is pretty stiff on how you want to spam Surfer. Like, yeah. What do you have to Surfer on your board that you put out in turns one and two to do this? Exactly. This is like your other surfers.
00:59:18
Speaker
You just surf on your surface? I want to see that as a clip so bad. The board that wins, that's just all surfers.
00:59:29
Speaker
Oh my gosh, that would be so funny. Vong, the moon girl, you could do it. It'd be very silly. Then he's like over there rolling his eyes and me and Lauren are like stars in her eyes. Think of the surface on the wands on the surface. There are already so many ways to get more surfer going on.
00:59:48
Speaker
Corbingman, Grandmaster, Wong, Symbiote, Spiderman. That's four. Off the dome. I mean, we yeah clon we could clone Silver Surfer with a one-cost card named Nico. Like, there are... Okay. Or Odin. There's one more. Okay. Frigga is a card that reminds me... waste It reminds me of Grandmaster.
01:00:17
Speaker
in that it feels brimming feels like it's brimming with potential, but I'm not sure what I wanna do with her. But she still looks so fun that I'm probably gonna get her. Anyway. Yes, I will get it. I am probably gonna open for her, but it is hard, because for me, it's like when I see her, I'm like, but would I rather absmen or iron lead?
01:00:40
Speaker
I have one more thing I would like to add. I do want to like this card, because for those who don't know, copying a card is drawing a card and drawing cards is pretty cool. See a 3-5 Loki who drew a card. um Yeah. Cards that say draw a card are dope, except for Adam Warlock who is not.
01:01:00
Speaker
But she's 4'6", draw a card. That's pretty good. It's just that the card is guaranteed to be a small thing that was yesterday's news. But then, White Queen. But then, White Queen. How often are you playing White Queen? Yeah, I know. And White Queen, I got some miles on my White Queen in the early series. Yeah, the White Queen is indeed a card that says, draw a card. Then she's the end of small cards.
01:01:26
Speaker
Champion of small cards, this should be your card. It lets you play a three on three, and then also later. I know, but I just don't think that's it. She's too big for you, huh? She's just a lady with a big sword. I love ladies with big swords. She's in an awkward spot. I know. We all love ladies with big swords, but I don't think this is the right one for the moment, at least not at this price point. An armor that's both flowy cloth and metal.
01:01:55
Speaker
It's too good. It's like fina. It's like you just won her because, you know,
Tidal Tussle Game Segment
01:01:59
Speaker
she cool. All right, I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. All right. no I got very much get it. I promise. And now, because this patch is it's done. There's there's nothing else feels like cosmetics and stuff. But really,
01:02:14
Speaker
There's hardly anything else to talk about. there's no new there's That's it for card changes. That's what I'm trying to say. So I have prepared. I have prepared a game for us today. um I workshopped the name of the game with my nearly 13-year-old child. It is called Tidal Tussle, Snap or Cap.
01:02:36
Speaker
Nice! It needs to be like a... I love it. See, if it was me, it would have been crap or trap. but no No, but this is perfect. I love it. yeah The youths, they're the future, and we must adopt their language. yeah So it's Snapper Cap. This is this is how the game's going to work.
01:02:57
Speaker
i okay
01:03:01
Speaker
Speaking of things that are data mined, I was looking over some of the new titles added to the game and they joined the pantheon of other titles that are just, they're just bad. There's so many awful titles in this game. um And so I'm going to read off a set of three titles to one of you. You'll take turns.
01:03:20
Speaker
ah You're going to identify how many of those titles are real in the game. Not necessarily released and available, but they exist in the game files. um Some of them have been released, but like very low usage. ah You get one point if you get it right.
01:03:37
Speaker
whether I mean, if you correctly say that it isn't a real title, that's worth a point to zero points for wrong answers. So if you get the whole set, right, you get three points. um You can snap if you want to to make correct answers worth two points and incorrect answers worth negative two points. So only if you're very confident. um This seems like a game where you would have to keep score. You have to keep score. Absolutely. I will if neither of you want to.
01:04:07
Speaker
I'm prepared. Lauren can be bothered? Oh. I... Yeah, this is the difference between... You're the one that's just used to this. No, this is... Don't set the bar here, this is bad. Okay, well you each keep your own scores. I'm afraid of promising and forgetting, but I can try. Wow, I got it. You're gonna keep score for both of you? I'll keep score for myself, or I'll try to. Okay, you each keep score for yourself. I don't know if I can demand the rules. Wait, I have a question. So can any of the three could be either real or not, or is only one of the three?
01:04:36
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i It could be all three fake or all three. Oh, okay. All right. All right, serious reactivate. Okay, I have, just to give you some context and like your snapping and scores and stuff like that, I have 10 sets for each of you. The answers have been generated by myself, some of our friends and chat GPT, which is shockingly good at this, almost as if that's how they come up with the title screen. Oh no!
01:05:10
Speaker
ah okay ah Just for fun, I did reference ah took advantage of my access to ah Marvel Snap's own tracker data. ah We're going to call it okay because our Grand Pod is part of you know, it's like the official podcast of Marvel Snap Zone. I looked at 42 days of data, ah opponent's titles, so there's more variety that way than if I was looking at the titles of Marvel Snap Zone tracker users. ah We saw in that time 848 titles, or sorry, there are 848 titles in the game, 479 of them were observed at least once.
01:05:45
Speaker
So that's 369 titles that nobody has. nobody ah And yet I late like only five of them. Right?
01:05:58
Speaker
850 titles and four are good. That's how I feel though. Okay, determine who's first. um I will be copying and pasting them to you in our chats so that you can read them as we play. I would like to go second. Okay, decided. Here we go. So this one, this set is to you, Rhee. Okay. Let's rent a tandem bike. Let's take the Bifrost to IKEA. Let's connect on LinkedIn.
01:06:34
Speaker
Okay, I think, let's take the Bifrost, fuck.
01:06:45
Speaker
I think, let's read a tandem bike is fake and let's take the Bifrost to IKEA and let's connect on LinkedIn are real.
01:06:58
Speaker
You have one correct. Let's connect on LinkedIn is indeed a real title. Let's run to tandem bike is two. I made up. Let's take the Bifrost to Ikea. Okay. So you got one point. All right. Okay. Ben.
01:07:17
Speaker
This set is yours. Number one, lost my variance in the divorce. Number two, I am from the beyond dot, dot, dot. Number three, behold my stuff. Hmm. And so all three of these could be real or how how many could be real? Uh, zero to three. So you are really just, you're really just making that determination for each one separately.
01:07:47
Speaker
I think lost my variance in the divorce doesn't make sense, and therefore is probably real.
01:07:57
Speaker
I am from the beyond. That feels plausible, but almost too plausible. um That one's fake. Behold, my stuff feels real.
01:08:11
Speaker
Okay, that's very good. You get two points. um The divorce is a real one. I Am From the Beyond is from our friend Adam Starr, Marvel Snap Lore. I sounded too good. It makes sense for comic books, which meant Marvel Snap would not have it as a title. That's exactly how I went through. I was like, lost my variance in the divorce. No, you can't these have no resale value. You can't redistribute them at all. You can't split that down the middle. like That makes no sense. It must be real. And yeah behold, my stuff, that's exactly the kind of...
01:08:43
Speaker
Uh, that's, that's, yeah, without being mean, I'll say that sounds about right. Behold, my stuff is, is a fake one. It's from our friend Philip J Woodward, but he's quoting Thor in the comics.
01:08:58
Speaker
um I know where this is from. I was going to say that actually sounds a little familiar. Did somebody share that somewhere? I don't know. Anyway, I'm not going to worry about it. That might be it. All right, Rhee. Oh, I need to remember to start asking you guys if you want to snap on this. Rhee, belly rubs and chill. Wait, do I have to decide before I see it on the snapping? Just before you commit to your answer. Okay. All right, cool. Okay. Belly rubs and chill.
01:09:28
Speaker
Accepting belly rubs. Please rub my belly. I hate this. Do you want to snap on this? Um, no, I wanted to, but then I heard it. Okay. Um, I think accepting belly rubs is real. And I think the other two are fake.
01:09:56
Speaker
Okay, that's worth two points. Yes! Okay. Please rub my belly is a real one. Ah, no. Why? Why do they always... Why do they always make me look at these titles? I don't want to think... ellen And the first one was by Chat GPT. Okay, then. You get ah another themed bundle. Three X value. Waiting for the four X value bundle. One hundred X value.
01:10:27
Speaker
um I don't love these. Oh geez, I don't know. Do you want to snap on this? I mean, we all know what they're alluding to. I'm gonna say... I think... I'm gonna say they're all fake. Even though I'm pretty sure one of them is real and maybe I've seen it. That is zero points. Every single one of those is real.
01:10:56
Speaker
Oh, wow. I would have thought the 4K value bundle was too good of a joke to, like, so weird. Yeah, I just couldn't And I, man, so weird. I um i only like the 3X value one. And that one's only because it's a Marvel snap in joke. Yeah, I agree. It's a good in joke. But then it's too far. It's like the corporation's making fun of themselves. iss like but like but But maybe not, though.
01:11:25
Speaker
Okay. Okay, Ri, here comes your set. I'm glad that this one's going to you. Okay. Number one, emotes are my love language. Number two, emote quota reached. Number three, too shy to emote. I think... Okay, I wanna... So if I snapped on it, do I have to get them all right?
01:11:50
Speaker
No, it just it ah it makes it so that the the good ones are plus two, but the bad ones are minus two. So okay it's worth snapping if you think you can get two correct.
01:12:02
Speaker
Okay, I'm going to snap. And I'm going to say emotes in my love language is real and too shy to emote is real. And emote quota reached is not.
01:12:15
Speaker
I'm sorry. The only one you got correct is too shy to emote. So you are plus two, but minus four as a negative two points. Emotes are my love language. Was it invented by yours truly? Because they are. And emote quota reached is real. i wished I wished it was real. I would use that one.
01:12:38
Speaker
I would use, yeah, I would match with you and you'd have emotes are my love language and I would say emo-cro to reach. I just bumped once today and done. Out.
01:12:51
Speaker
oh Okay, this is a set that I'm glad went. This is a set I love going to Ben. Number one, from Simcaria with love. Number two, can swear in Simcarian. Number three, Simcaria's finest. Simcaria, as we recently learned, is the home of the mercenary Silver Sable.
01:13:17
Speaker
the world's most famous mercenary, Silver Sable, according to Tom DeFalco's Spider-Man the Ultimate Guide. Anywho, i think I don't think they even want to talk about Simcaria. Are you going to snap on this? I think Simcaria doesn't have the name ID. I think I got burned last time by saying they were all fake. I'm going to snap on this and say, once again, they're all fake.
01:13:47
Speaker
Okay, you got two correct, so that is worth four points. Wait, plus four minus, it's worth two points. I feel like I might have seen from Sicaria with love. Is that the one that's real? The one that is real is Can Swear in Simkarian. I got so excited when I saw that they referenced Simkaria in an actual title. So, wait, just snapping on...
01:14:13
Speaker
If you get too right and you snap on it, it's just the same as if you hadn't snapped on it. I guess it's the same. Maybe I should have had negative points or something. I don't know. I didn't think about it. Maybe we should skip on the snapping until next time. I just wanted to say, do you want to snap on this? I thought that was so clever. Well, I think we should still snap for feeling and intensity when we're feeling ourselves.
01:14:39
Speaker
You can emotionally snap on it. Yeah, I i i invested my my personhood in that answer. We could make it double or nothing. You know you have to get all three correct. and then anyway um But let's put Snap on this in our pocket for a future game, for sure.
01:14:59
Speaker
All right, Ree, I have a set of three for you. Number one, very mystique, very demure. Number two, feeling snarky past my bedtime. Number three, no one laughs at a master of quack-fu. Okay.
01:15:19
Speaker
I feel like I should snap because I'm behind now. I only have one point and now I got to play risky. It's like when you're at the end of a conquest and you're like, well, I'm down on cubes. It's time to get risky. So I'm going to snap and I'm going to say very mystique, very demure is real. And the other two are fake.
01:15:49
Speaker
You got two correct, so we're gonna call that two points. Yay! Very Mystique, Very Demure was a trick by our friend Sami slash Haunter. It had to. That's much too current. It's so good! I want it to be real! Why can't the good titles be in? The other two tricks are from Birds and Marble Snap Lore. Okay, you guys got more in you?
01:16:17
Speaker
Oh, he hell yeah. Okay, here comes Ben's set. Number one, you were in my dream. Number two, Kang saw my future, said nah. Number three, my, what spider teeth you have? Hmm. You know what? I am just gonna shoot from the hip. I'm gonna say you were in my dream is real. Kang saw my future, said nah, is...
01:16:46
Speaker
too good and probably can't be real. What spider teeth you have is sort of, that really is in the gray zone. so line I think the only real one is, well, I think they do a lot of spider titles actually. You know what, I'll say you were in my dream and my what spider teeth you have are real.
01:17:18
Speaker
I should have snapped on it. Yeah. I should have snapped. My, what spider teeth you have? It's horrifying. What the hell? Yeah. There's a lot of titles like that, to be honest, like really second dinner.
01:17:32
Speaker
They're so bad, which is what makes this game possible. all right we could They could hire a human being to like come up with good ones, but I don't think they did. I said. It's probably a symptom of overwork. They're like, should we hire people? No. Make people always full jobs. The interns could crush this. All right. Yeah, fair enough. Re's turn. Number one, I call my teeth the Fantastic Four.
01:17:59
Speaker
Number two, I want to turn people into dinosaurs. Oh, that's what Sauron wants to do. Mm-hmm, yeah. Number three, I find this beneath me. Okay, I feel like I want to turn people into dinosaurs. That feels like Marvel Snap, Lord of Me. It's two comic books. It makes too much sense. So I think that one's fake. I'm snapping on this for the feels, for the climactic moment of triumph.
01:18:29
Speaker
all alright that So that one's fake. I call my teeth the Fantastic Four.
01:18:39
Speaker
Fake. I find this beneath me real. That's what I'm going with. Okay. This sounds bad. Lauren's doing a down tilt with her voice. You only got two, the number two, correct. I call my teeth the Fantastic Four's real.
01:18:57
Speaker
Of course it is, it's so weird. I wanted to say that, but in case someone I knew invented it, I didn't want to, but I'm like, no. I almost like it because it is so absurd. um I want to turn people into dinosaurs is ah Snap dot.fan writer Scott Denham. And number three, I find this beneath me was a trick from Philip J. Woodward, modified quote from Dr. Doom. Yeah, OK.
01:19:26
Speaker
Wait, so what did I get points right out of that? So you you snapped, right? So negative two? Back to one point. That's how we do. ah shop What's your score, Ben? My score after four rounds I've had, I'm guessing. Is that correct? Does that match with what your... I went first. I went first. So I have had one more than you. We should have we should have the scoreboard after Ben's yeah round.
01:19:55
Speaker
right All right, here we go. ah If I can paste correctly, nope, my clipboard is empty. This is good audio. Number one, hey there, Tiger. Number two, super rare. Number three, Excelsior.
01:20:13
Speaker
Well, let's see. The first and the third one are comic book references that even I get, although I believe the classic line that the first one is referring to, a lot of these titles are like a little bit off, like the a bit of a scientist thing adds a misquote of the first Spider-Man movie. the The actual line is, I'm something of a scientist myself.
01:20:44
Speaker
ah But the the line that hey there tiger is referring to is face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot, which is what Mary Jane Watson says. a one Which makes it almost more likely to be real, right? like Exactly, the fact that it's not right. They don't know how to spell shawarma.
01:21:08
Speaker
I think Excelsior also like makes a lot of sense because that is like Stan Lee's little catchphrase sign off thing. They don't give us those. I think Super Rare is the only real one in the bunch.
01:21:23
Speaker
Okay, you did very well. Super rare is also fake. They're all fake. I thought so. I thought super rare is fake. I'm like, I would, well, okay. I thought, hey, they're Tyra's real. But I'm like, super rare and like Celsius are like too good. I'll never get those. Did I get two points there? You got two points. Yeah. Those came from people we've already credited, but number two, super rare came from Thursday. Nice. You got me.
01:21:50
Speaker
Yeah, points to Thursday. Okay. What's the scoreboard now, Ben? More points than me. I have nine points. Nine to one, but we're only, what, halfway through the game? Wait, what? Nine to one? No, that that can't be right. I snapped a lot.
01:22:09
Speaker
Just like You haven't been counting, like, Oh, yeah, we've been quickkined continuing with the snaps. All right, we printing this page for my grandson, like grandma used to make named after my grandpa's username. Wow.
01:22:35
Speaker
Oh, man. Okay, I think these are all awful. awful I know. Okay, and I'm I'm snapping. I can only go up from here, Shirley. Yeah, and you can't have negative cubes. They're all real, because they're all weird. You're correct. Yes! Wow. A six point swing. The comeback. Incredible. Wait, how many points do I get? Six. All the way up to seven points. ah
01:23:13
Speaker
All right, here's an here's another themed bundle for you. Uncle Sam's symbiote. My symbiote ate my homework. Symbiotes are a Spider-Man's best friend.
01:23:27
Speaker
Alright, the first one makes too much sense. That's too good. I think that's referring to what, like, Agent Venom or something. um My symbiote ate my homework. That seems very plausibly low-hanging and basic.
01:23:43
Speaker
hu Symbiotes are a Spider-Man's best friend. I mean, like, sure. You know, I think the second two, or, yeah, yeah numbers two and three are real, and Uncle Sam's symbiote makes too much sense. Like, I had to think about it, and then I thought about it, and I could, like, trace the logic, and it all made, like It didn't, yeah. The fact that I was stumped by it and then I thought about it and it added up, that means it can't be real. I feel like my symbiote in like, my homework. Real real. Fake real real. It's like the quintessential like snap title. You know what I mean? It's like random thing in game with random things someone would say.
01:24:25
Speaker
ah Yeah, this is the poster child for generic snap title. was like How out did I do out of those three? You got one point. You swapped the first two. Only the last one, or the first one was real. The one that you thought made too much sense. Oh, wow. Maybe it'll be in the season pass for Agent Venom or something, right? Yeah, probably. And then number three is real. symbiotes are a Spider-Man's best friend. Oh, number two, is it real? Don't feel bad about calling that one super basic. That was Jet GPT.
01:24:56
Speaker
It knows. It's like I distilled the Marvel Snap title down to its essence. Yeah, I fed it every single title and I was like, please. Channel this awful loser gamer self-deprecating energy and also Marvel Snap references. i'm Three. Number one, go ahead and report me. Number two, forgot password, can never log out. Number three, top hat, gym socks, that's it.
01:25:26
Speaker
All right. Um, okay. Probably shouldn't snap since we're finally catching up. Uh, I think top hat Jim sucks. That's it is real because it's weird and it's marble snap sounding. are you I think it's horrifying. I think that's an illusion to inside. That's what I think. Inside what's inside what are the the Netflix special of Bo Burnham.
01:25:56
Speaker
That's what I think that's a reference to. Oh, in that case, it's probably not a Snubmarble Snap title, because then it would be too close. Okay. ah So, forgot password, can never log out. I think it's fake. It's very long. Go ahead and report me.
01:26:20
Speaker
I mean, there is a title called Permaban Inevitable, which is like, why? It's a while to put that in your game, right? Yeah. I'm going to say it's fake. Because i hope I hope it is. So what's your final answer?
01:26:36
Speaker
ah
01:26:39
Speaker
they're They're all fake. I'm changing my last answer based on Ben. It was a call of friend. you got You get two points. The last one is correct. It's real, I mean. Oh, it is real? and The last one's real. Oh, it was real. OK. Uh-huh. But you still get two points. All right. Yay, now I'm tied. I apologize for leading you astray. No, it was the perfect it was the perfect play, Ben. To retain your lead. OK, homestretch. Ben, use your real name, coward. Should have listened to Wong. Snick tappens.
01:27:15
Speaker
Well, the third one, I feel like that might be real. That might be real. just Even though it makes a little bit of sense, it might be real. Honestly, they all seem plausible. They all seem like within the...
01:27:35
Speaker
the parameters. Once again, right? This is a very good game, Laura. It's like, okay, comic book time into random phrase. Every Marvel snap title. Yeah. I think they are, I think the first one is fake and the other two are real.
01:28:01
Speaker
You got zero points. I want to take I want to take credit for snick tappens another title that I might use if it existed Yeah, I like I thought I was like that that might be the kind of okay title that they would it's like kind of funny. Yeah, okay Rea number one dark elf needs food badly number two uh longest um MRI ever number three blaming this on mercury retrograde
01:28:38
Speaker
I think okay um all right we'll play it we'll play it smart we'll play it safe we'll not snap because we have been on the ropes
01:28:49
Speaker
Alright, is that the kind of usage of that term? Why are you on the ropes? Is it the person that's on the ropes? Aren't they going to spring back and pro wrestling and kick the other person in the face? That's what you have to worry about, I think. So why would you want someone to be on the ropes? If they're resting on the ropes, I think they're exhausted.
01:29:08
Speaker
Oh, okay. But that's just a guess. This feels like a double-edged term. Okay, anyway, sorry. I was just wondering if I was going to use it correctly. Okay, so I think Dark Elf needs food badly. Sounds like the kind of title that would be a moral snap. Now I'm afraid to make any comments on any of these, because I don't know who invented them. Longest memory I ever... our friends and I knew we were trying to trick you. So if you call it bad, I think we were intentionally making them bad. We were trying to channel the title five. That's what we're saying. Okay. Longest MRI ever. That also sounds like a title that would be in the game. I'm going to say those are both real. I think blaming the Sun Mercury retrograde
01:29:59
Speaker
is is too, it's too real. It's just like, so I think that one's fake. Okay, that's worth two points. um Dark Elf Needs Food Badly is not real. Adam gave me Elf Needs Food Badly, which is a gauntlet reference. um I changed it to Dark Elf because Malaket's is coming. That's why I would never be in Snap then. Right? Okay.
01:30:28
Speaker
Ben. Live. Love. Snap. I snap on the first date. Gross. Just learned I've been dating a scroll. All three real. Two points. The last one was Chet GPT.
01:30:48
Speaker
I would have been with Ben, they all seem. Live Love Snap kind of cracks me up. I don't think I'll use it, but it's it's kind of cute. It's not the worst one I've ever heard, that's for sure. Yeah. I like ah teasing those. There's no stupid self-deprecation. All right, give them up. What are your guys? OK, sorry. Maybe when we're done. We have to see what our favorite titles are. Oh, yeah. OK, because I think that's last episode content. All right.
01:31:13
Speaker
Here we go. ah Re, round nine for you, of 10. Ruined by sister's wedding. Incapable of love. My date says stop playing. Is this the sequel to? Uh huh. I think.
01:31:39
Speaker
I think the first two are fake and the last one is real. I think my date says stop playing is real. You killed it. Three points. Really? Yes, you just snapped. Yeah. First one is birds. Second one is snap variants. All right. ah Here's the self-deprecating stuff we love. Ben. Oh, I'm sorry. Just awful. Just awful. Food at karaoke night.
01:32:10
Speaker
Where, where, where? Where'd I be? All right. I just need to like drop a little bit of behind the scenes magic. Lauren does send us the the text as she's reading. So like sometimes my eyeballs happen before the ears get there. And that's why i that's why I make noises of disgust and or amusement, seemingly out of sync with what we're learning. OK. Let me run that one again.
01:32:39
Speaker
Where, where, where? Wet typey. No, I don't like it. I just don't like it. oh No, I'm sorry. I cannot contain my, I just, I feel very visceral. Let's just not.
01:32:59
Speaker
No, that one I... Do you think it's real or not though? I fear that it's real. Are you going to speed it up in the future? No, I don't want to be... Like, I just don't want that to be true. Nobody does. I'm gonna say Just Awful seems very plausible. There are like a zillion titles very much in that vein. Like, that's an absolute garbage kind of title, you know what I mean? Boot at karaoke night. I feel like there are already titles in the game referring to karaoke and probably more than one. I think the Spider-Man theme is my karaoke song. That's a title or something.
01:33:39
Speaker
And I think there's another karaoke title that I've seen, so I bet there are a zillion karaoke titles, because they probably got a whole batch of karaoke from GPT, and they never bothered to check for redundancies. These are all so funny. Yeah, but so I think just awful is real. Food at karaoke night is real. And I pray to anything that, wow, wow, wow, wet diap is not real.
01:34:08
Speaker
What avatar do they pay him? It's not real. Real real fake. I'm so sorry, that's zero points. Fuck. I don't care about the score, I just care about what this says about the game. i could I could not believe that was a real title. Fuck.
01:34:32
Speaker
I don't think I've dropped that one on the pod before, but that's some fucking horse shit if I ever heard of it. Oh, I'm so sorry. I spit constantly. I'm the reason we rate ourselves explicit, because I can't go to myself. I am disappointed.
01:34:50
Speaker
this is what broke you ah
01:34:53
Speaker
This is obviously not as substantial as some of my other grievances with decisions made by the people behind the game But wow, what a troubling lapse of taste and judgment Yeah be better just What are you like? more delete title More people are putting this as their title. I know so many people who who's whose full goal with their avatar title. Game over here. Don't anyway don't ruin it with fucking diaper talk. How hard would it be to make titles cool? Apparently very hard. comic More comic book references, please. That are like legit.
01:35:42
Speaker
Final set for each of you. Hey, and in this week's ah login rewards, there's something about Spidey Sense's tingling that doesn't suck. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was the login reward today. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Ree's last set. Number one, title censored. Got an edgelord over here. Number two, has a parasite. Number three, banned from nowhere for litter for loitering.
01:36:17
Speaker
Okay. Are you going to snap on this? No, because now I'm leading Ben, right? I don't know. I have 14 points. How many points do you have, Ben? I got a Jeopardy this. I got a lot of points. It's final Jeopardy. I think Ben's had two zeros. Sorry, how many points did you have? I've had three zeros, actually. Wait, so where do you at? I didn't get any of the last ones right, did I? Do you have nine still? I got them all wrong. No, no, I'm up from there. I've got, I had nine after the fifth one. I'm at 12.
01:36:47
Speaker
Okay, see, I'm up by two. It's a close game. So, okay, so he would have to snap to overtake me. It's a risky gamble from him. And I don't want to damage myself. This is one where if it was Marvel Snap, I'd want to be like, I want to do it. But we got to play smart, and we're not going to snap. And I'm going to say, okay, that Band from Nowhere for Loitering is a real title.
01:37:14
Speaker
and has a parasite is a real title, and title censored is fake. That is one point. Title censored is real? Of course it is. Why? Wait, which one? Band from nowhere is chat GPT, but I shortened it a little bit. Has a parasite also real? Yeah. Title censored is just so...
01:37:42
Speaker
Yeah. we we Yeah. Lean into the edgelord thing. Sure. Good choice, guys. So dumb. Okay. i Last set for Ben.
01:37:54
Speaker
This could be the deciding set. Wait, so Ben is 13? How many points to 12? I have 12. Okay, and I have 15. So you'd have to get all three right just to tie. All three with a snap. Anyway, number one, Hawkeye Tua. Number two, born to snap, forced to retreat. Number three, willing to accept victory. Okay, so.
01:38:24
Speaker
Do we think they draw the line at wet diapers, but they're down for fellatio tips? Because that's the first one. I still never bothered to Google that, to be honest. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's fellatio advice.
01:38:41
Speaker
let's say That's what that is. You probably might have snapped them. Yeah, I guess so. Have you seen some of the variants, to be fair? No, but i I bet this one came from Sammy. that's That's what I think. I feel like Sammy's plugged in. ah so Sammy's with the culture. um I think fake, real,
01:39:15
Speaker
real. Are you snapping on this? I mean, spiritually. If I snap on it and I only got two of them right, it's still the same as if I did snap on it right. Yeah, it's very well designed. So if I snap on it and I got two wrong, then I'd just like make my score worse, right? But if I got all three right. You would win. Then you win. No, you would win. You win. Right now you tie if you got all three right without snapping. If you get all three, it's a six pointer.
01:39:50
Speaker
So, all right, I guess the smart thing to do then would be to snap, but I'm fine with tying. i I don't feel like I deserve to win. This whole game has like made me feel like I don't deserve anything. Like I'm i'm a um a garbage creature in a garbage world. You deserve anything. You make me feel, to be honest. Are we all losers after this game?
01:40:19
Speaker
o Sure, I'll snap on it. I'll be king of it. And your submission is fake real real? ah ah Yeah, what what what did I say? I think you said fake real real. Yeah, I think that's what you did. Fake real real. that no that's That's what's in my heart, I hope. Fake real real.
01:40:44
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Drum roll. That is a two-pointer for you. Born to snap, forced to retreat. I win by one point. This chat, GPT. And you are 100% correct. Hawkeye2 is from Sammy. wrote an answer. That's when you wrote in in Final Jeopardy and you were wrong, but you made everyone laugh. so you know yeah
01:41:18
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depending on what your goals were in your heart. We have to find success differently. Okay, so that's the end of the game. Congratulations, Re, to being the first victor of title, Tussle, Snap, or Cap. Okay. The Tussle Queen. What? Oh, wow. i Yeah, for a second. 14 to 15, right? yeah Yeah, you had 15? I had 15, so you ended with 14.
01:41:46
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All right. Wait, no, yeah, yeah, I did. I know, Matt. I'm sorry. i just i got I got so lost after I learned that we're- What? Ben's gonna go to Reddit after this and be like, why didn't my Captain Marvel move? No, I'm disoriented right now. I am taken aback by what I have learned. I've seen things. You can't instill your future. I don't know.
01:42:14
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yeah that just That just lives in our podcast chat now. um ah Okay, if you enjoyed this, ah like, follow, subscribe, leave comments, et cetera.
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01:42:25
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01:42:33
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ah We are part of the Snap, or not, I'm part of the Snap Judgments Network, proud members of the Snap Judgments Network, um where you can listen to great shows such as Snap Decisions, where Joe brings on great guests with his radio DJ experience and also provides a great casual player angle to the game. Very accessible, very positive,
01:43:03
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Were you gonna say something? Also a lot of like love for the comics and stuff, and just good vibes, and you sure won't hear him talking about any of this diaper shit. Did you just use those two words next to each other? He keeps it classy over there. um In fact, so classy that we probably, I shouldn't, I don't know. I may have ruined this shout out. No, we have to show him. I was trying to be encouraging. like There are as many wonder, yeah. Our show is great in a lot of ways, but you will hear about this, yeah. I'm sorry for what we've, yeah. It was a great game, Lauren. I'm just, this is Marble Snap's fault. This is nobody's fault.
01:43:49
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We're all victims here. We broke, Ben. Okay, yeah, so listen to Snap Decisions and the others on Snap Judgment's network. um Last week I challenged us to come up with sign-offs for the show. And do we just want to do all three of them and see what happens? Or ah we have a lot of sign-offs for several weeks, if we want. Oh. Let's trot out a few.
01:44:16
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Okay. Okay. All right. I'm going first because I was actually sick this week. I didn't come up with one. Ben kindly gave me one of his and he gave me one he knew I would appreciate, which I doubly appreciate. um I love this one. It's, I don't snap on half of you, half as well as I should like. And I snap on less than half of you, half as well as you deserve. And if you get that reference, you're very cool. That's adorable.
01:44:47
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ah i had a I had a long one that you just heard, and I've got a short one. And my short one is Snappy Trails. That's cute. Okay, I brought a couple, but but this is my favorite.
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