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3: This One Will Turn Your Hair White
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This week, at the start of spider season, all the hosts are Spider-Lauren, erm, Spider Lorin'. 🕸️😎
For our esteemed listeners’ consideration:
- Sable and Symbiote Spider-Man are staged and revealed
- Lauren has converted to the Madame Web hype train
- Justice is demanded for Silk and Mantis
- Ben brings a new game to the table 👀
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Transcript
Introduction by Lauren Whatevs
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome to this third episode of the latest podcast in the Snap Judgment's network lineup. Snap on this. I'm Lauren Whatevs. With me today, I have my amazing co-hosts. First, it's just Ree. How was your week in Snap? And keep it snappy. Okay. Yes, I had several contenders this week, but I've decided to discuss Snappily.
00:00:29
Speaker
So I am a
Ree's Sleepless Snap Adventures
00:00:30
Speaker
bit of a serial insomniac and a lot of that translates into delirious, very late night snap. And a lot of times I'll be looking, when I go to play snap, the next day I'll be like, oh, I have to remember making this. And playing it a bit.
00:00:50
Speaker
Yes. This week that happened to me, but it was notable because it was three different decks. I did actually like play and test them all in one night. One of them was Bast Destroy, which I thought was hilarious. All of these were because I thought they were hilarious, to be honest.
00:01:12
Speaker
And I have been informed, though, ah that it's just like like two cards off of like a negative destroy deck that already exists. How dare you. um Hey, two cards is a lot of cards. That's a significant number of cards. I mean, yeah, like this negative being one of them, pretty significant. That's a different deck entirely.
00:01:35
Speaker
Is it better than regular destroy? No. But it is funny,
Ben Roller's Snap Achievements
00:01:40
Speaker
and you can best Deadpool the Three. And then eat best with Carnage. Sold. Also, I made a sor- I forgot! remember we all thought with Blob, they included the ongoing ah originally to make sure he didn't work with Sauron?
00:01:56
Speaker
So guess who is this Sauron So I made a Sauron blob deck, and it's got like, along with Enchantress as a backup, and Zero, it has Venom, right? To eat your Typhoid Mary, your Red Skull, or even your Silk. I put Silk in it for the Reach.
00:02:17
Speaker
and um It's a great place for but for blob because you have all that power in your Typhoid Mary and and Red Skull. um I put crossbones in there, it plays well with Silk, right? And even if you think about it, Venom is a good... um If you zero, if you can zero your Ebony Ma, then you can eat zero and Ebony Ma with a Venom to protect them from Killmonger, or to protect your power. Hmm, they did. But yeah, and definitely the goofiest, but it's a Darkhawk, Cersei, Wiccan, Emperor Hulking deck.
00:02:53
Speaker
with Cassandra Nova. I like the interplay of Cassandra Nova with Rock, Slide, and Court, because you're adding more food for Cassandra if you get her later. It's got Black Hawk, Nocturne for the Reach, and for Maximum Selena, I guess. And you know, Hulkling, I've tried to make a legit deck with Hulkling. I have not been successful yet, to be honest. But I'm sorry. OK, that was my week. Hopefully not, too.
00:03:23
Speaker
to lacking in the snaps. Oh. i I thought it was snappy enough. Does that make it time for
Lauren's Goofy Combos Exploration
00:03:30
Speaker
my weekend snap? Absolutely, Ben Roller. All right. Well, I will try to keep it snappy. As some of our loyal listeners may recall, last week I i proposed the possibility that, you know, I might try to make the the top 1,000 in the young Avengers season. Try to finish up there.
00:03:51
Speaker
um And I did not share that this was a pretty attainable looking goal because I was already up pretty high and it just seemed like I was, yeah, things were going well. I don't i don't want to sound however I would sound. But ah yeah, kind of crushed it. I have a very cool Heimdall deck that I played most of the way there.
00:04:15
Speaker
um You can play Heimdall up on the top of the leaderboard. It is a real thing and it's a lot of fun. ah The final position, for some reason it never updated the last few snap points I got. According to my phone, I made it up to 8,101 snap points.
00:04:37
Speaker
But it has me listed as 8,074 snap points, which puts me at global rank 722 for the August season. And if we want to limit it to the Americas region, that's number 392.
00:04:51
Speaker
Hey, that's above and beyond 1000. There's a bit. Frankly, I just like I was doing bounties to help the Alliance and the number kept going up and then I was like, hey, what if I played decks I actually liked and am confident in and ah yeah, it worked out. You can chase your dreams, do the thing, move the cards.
00:05:14
Speaker
Um, stew it up. Is that, is that your first month doing that chasing? Oh yeah. right I, uh, I felt bad because I think the last time one of my decks was featured on one of Glazer's snap takes videos on his YouTube channel, he said that I play on, uh, on the high infinite leaderboard. And I'm like, well, I could make him issue a correction or a retraction, or I could just make it true. And I decided it would be simpler to make it true.
00:05:43
Speaker
So now he's ready. I love that. Yeah, and't I don't like to make liars with my friends.
Symbiote Spider-Man Analysis
00:05:50
Speaker
Post accuracy. I'll settle for it. my week I know what's happening in Snap right now. like I'm playing it pretty casually, but also I've just been exploring lots of goofy things with symbiote Spider-Man. I wasn't trying to make anything super strong. I was just like, um can I proc 2099 twice? And ah could I Just to see if I could, right? like
00:06:19
Speaker
it's it's a It's my own flavor of bounties for myself. like i just want i have As long as I've been playing Snap, I have enjoyed coming up with an arbitrary challenge and trying to solve it. ah Perhaps that's that's what gave me the level of success that I met in The Snapprentice. I was ah built for it for the challenges of how do you make the biggest torch? How do you make the biggest monkey? Anyway.
00:06:46
Speaker
I think it's so interesting that you do that in a competitive game that like requires two humans, because like I do that in single-player games, but you're you're taking it out there into the the social context, which is bold. ah Yeah, you have to have the right matchup and good draw luck for you, and I hope they don't have a tech card. and Sometimes location is ruined. Anyway, that's ah that's why it's a grind just to get one good clip of something cool happening. But I'm sure I'll find more. You're like a tornado chaser. Like a clip-hunner, you know? It just... Yeah, i'm not you know it's I'm not a streamer, but I love posting a good clip to Twitter every now and then.
00:07:28
Speaker
ah Speaking of Symbiote Spider-Man, let's get into this week's cards. We'll ask the question, but I'm assuming we all got Symbiote Spider-Man. Tell me, did you get it and what do you think about him?
00:07:42
Speaker
um re-is... are Wait, am I... Okay, I'm going for it. I got Symbiote Spider-Man because I am... I would like to come out as a Season Pass only player on this podcast. I don't i don't know how many of your podcast hosts are Season Pass only, but that's the lifestyle I have chosen. um And so i I've been enjoying Symbiote Spider-Man. I tried him in...
Debating Silver Sable in Meta
00:08:11
Speaker
behind all move deck because I'm a goofball and ah it was pretty fun. Yeah. Good card does a lot of weird things. Very, yeah very neat.
00:08:23
Speaker
Oh man, I was thinking, I was like, I also used to only be proudly be like a season pass only, mostly buyer, but like nine more. They got me. And I'm just thinking, oh my god, I'm probably gonna get that Hulk bundle, that Hulk busting out of framer.
00:08:41
Speaker
It looks like Hulk pretending to be alive stuck in a box. You just get it so much less cool. But it looks really cool instead of, I know! It could be cool and hilarious. Ruined forever, yes, yes.
00:08:57
Speaker
I clouded this moment, Lauren. But I did get the season pass. I always get it. So I was going to get it no matter what. I have not played or deck built or done anything with him yet because I just...
00:09:13
Speaker
I can't get excited. Everyone's all like, oh, we're going to go lactose with it. But here's the coolest thing that I've seen with it. Here's the coolest move. And I'm once again going to show up to one bad combat. Another clip hunter, a kindred spirit to Lauren. And a good egg. And an all around good egg.
00:09:32
Speaker
who Symbiote Spider-Man is like Embaku and got it to, I should have like, I didn't think about this before the podcast or I would have and blinked it and ended up with like the super power, he like equate it and shit in there. And it was just like this super huge Symbiote Embakuten at the end of the game. It was amazing. It was the most, like everyone's galacticing, but like Embaku Spider-Man,
00:10:03
Speaker
Like, popping in at the end of the game is the coolest shit I've ever seen to be honest. All right, sorry, Lauren. Oh, may I hop in? I thought of a thing that I should have mentioned. More than I played Symbiote Spider-Man, I played against Symbiote Spider-Man. And do you know who eats Symbiote Spider-Man's lunch? Regular Spider-Man. Oh my gosh. If you want to disrupt some activate shenanigans, move some cards around.
00:10:29
Speaker
like ah and Magneto is great for this. Polaris is great for this. Regular Spider-Man is great for this. ah The cheapest card at that location. ah That might be an Acid Arrow, dog. um Thanks for the the four for on my side. i like Dang. you can really You can really ruin some plays.
00:10:49
Speaker
like
Madam Web Card Anticipation
00:10:50
Speaker
ah it's it's It feels very good, so if you have not tried move sabotage against symbiote Spider-Man, I highly recommend it. 10 out of 10 would screw with my opponents again, yes. But remember, it's lowest cost, not lowest power. I hear a friend send over a hobgoblin thinking it would eat it, and it's like, oh, oh oh no, that's a five-cast card. It is important to read cards.
00:11:16
Speaker
Hey, hey, no shaming. I, many times, especially with OTs and stuff, I keep forgetting. I'm like, how did they get Loki out so early? And it's like, oh yeah. Oh yeah. They just keep making you get Loki faster and faster. Anyway. Okay. Sorry. I saw so many people trying to counter symbiotic Spider-Man with clog. It was all white widow.
00:11:42
Speaker
well I should say almost exclusively White Widow and I'm like so there are other options like she's awesome yes but I don't know that you want to save her until you know where your opponent is playing symbiote spider-man like I don't know I think I think yeah option and I also think having move control if you're the one trying to do symbiote spider-man is important um I, some of my shenanigans involved cloak just because I was sick of having people send me, uh, widow's kisses. That is interesting. Oh, and the defense against widow's kiss. Yeah. Also cloak has great variants that should be displayed more. Yeah. Top notch variants for cloak.
00:12:23
Speaker
Yeah, 100% I don't have any. I'm never going to own it, but I would love it. I mean, like, um as we just established, I am not a spender in that way. But if if it ever were my premium mystery variant, I would not kick it out of bed for eating crackers. I tell you what. You should. You'll get ants. Okay. i ah Okay. ah My payment level of the game, I am currently a Cease Pass and Gold Pass.
00:12:52
Speaker
exclusively unless something really catches my eye. But that's like maybe once every few months. Like I got the Valkyrie bundle because it was a $15 Valkyrie and and she's my card. i I am a retired whale, but that is over a year ago since the last time I was whaling. So I don't feel like a whale at all anymore.
00:13:13
Speaker
i You know, I ended wailing shortly after spotlights were introduced to the game. So I don't think I have benefited that much. I mostly wailed to get through series three because that thing is a slog and I don't know how people are doing it nowadays because now it's even longer.
00:13:31
Speaker
who Anyway, entirely different topic for another day. I have had a ton of fun with somebody else, Spider-Man. He's not as flexible as I hoped. And I think a lot of that is ah is, it's that lowest cost thing. It's a problem for how easy he is to counter. And also, it ah it's a big limitation on like, what kind of cards are good cards to hit? Because a lot of the cheap cards,
00:14:01
Speaker
you might as well just be doing Wong or Absman. like The really cool thing that Symbiote Spider-Man introduces is being able to like ah double up on a 5 or 6 cost ability. um you know like The Black Panther stuff, if your opponent's not ready to counter, is really strong, throwing 56 power in two lanes. Yep.
00:14:27
Speaker
So that I definitely did some of that. That was the first
Power Creep in Card Games
00:14:30
Speaker
place I went was like Taskmaster and Zola with Black Panther. um it's It's great for climbing because bots do not understand the power there. And so you get to have the bots. um But I only got to do it so long before opponents started kind of like getting wise to it. I doubt that that's still going to be viable within a week.
00:14:53
Speaker
um
00:14:57
Speaker
Yeah, I i am i'm worried. it's ah It's a cool season with activate cards and with move cards, but Clock is already fairly prevalent and I think it's only going to get more prevalent because it's kind of the best counter to what's going on and what's coming.
00:15:12
Speaker
Yeah. And as a move player, that Heimdall deck that I've been playing, it's got clog elements. I'm playing White Widow. I'm playing Kate Bishop. Like, the secret sauce turned out to be Green Goblin. That's what the deck needed. And yeah. The clog is so good for dagger, too, right? There's been much discussion, but I think that's a nerf candidate dagger. I mean, she didn't need the buff when she got it. That was my position at the time.
00:15:42
Speaker
I don't think they thought she needed it either. Sometimes they just buff cards to try and get people to play them. It's about controlling the perception and the usage. The thing is it didn't work.
00:15:57
Speaker
Ben's still playing move. I'm still not playing move.
00:16:03
Speaker
i Yeah, I played a bunch of that last season, the ah like where Dagger's your only mover who's who's the like a growing mover, and it's just the final turn. you Iron Fist or Grapple Hook, Dagger, Grapple Arrow, Dagger, and then Ghost Spider, and the power output is ridiculous and it costs you four energy.
00:16:26
Speaker
yep I learned a new tool is when X-Mansion gives you Hercules against a move deck. You're just bouncing around their dagger for them and it's like X-Mansion. I kind of find enemy Hercules annoying or i I find all versions of Hercules annoying no matter where you stick him on the board. He ah kind of ruins the the control.
00:16:50
Speaker
It makes sense, then, that he's one of my more favorite move cards. We may be approaching it from different directions. 100%. That is a re-move card. ah If I can go backwards, my week can snap. X-Mansion is my second location, and Gamma Lab is my third location. X-Mansion gives my opponent Electro and gives me Doom. Wow. People are vibing me Electros.
00:17:20
Speaker
Fortunately with my discard deck, where it's like, haha! I only have one card in my hand, you fool! But you know, yeah. No, but it's happening now! I like, yeah. That was like a dream, people say. Now that, you're fine. Now that we've seen how activate works, I love it. It's basically how I hoped it would be, where it's fully sequenceable with i Did not say that word properly. Sequenceable with On Reveals. I love that. That's a very cool. We are headed for a very complicated future if you want ah to play a very complicated deck that that's mixing On Reveals with many different activate abilities and which order you play them in really matters. I think that's super fun. It's kind of weird for Snap. i Didn't expect to have that level of complexity within the second year.
00:18:14
Speaker
Yeah. I'm a little worried about it, but I mean like we all enjoy that kind of thing, I think. Personally, like don't we? Maybe oh that level of complexity. To me, it feels like such yeah being able to do combos feels like such a Johnny thing. So yes, very. Yeah. It's just like come to my attention that like not everybody likes the stuff I like.
00:18:33
Speaker
And I hope this doesn't get people off. Well, because we work hard with big card gamers, I think, right? So of course we like more. And this expands your collection in a way, right? Now you have more abilities to make more decks.
00:18:46
Speaker
because you have these extra interactions cards can have. So where it's going to, but like the people, it's probably who are going to dislike it the most and are probably the casual people, right? Who are a big force in Snap, but probably not the people who listen to podcasts about Snap, you know? It's just they're sometimes fun things. So like, I think those are the people that then may get turned off.
00:19:12
Speaker
um But maybe the on-ramp's good enough that they'll be ready for it by the time they hit it, I don't know. Or maybe it's like move, where even if it's busted, so few people are playing it that it's fine. I think that people won't be quite as afraid of it as they will be of move.
00:19:33
Speaker
That's what I think. It's a lot of easier interesting to splash activate, right? Like, here's my two activate cards, whereas splashing move is harder. Although, you know, I think we've seen that with fog and dagger. Activate isn't like a tribal ability, you know what I mean? It's not like ongoing where you might stack them all up for spectrum. It's like any activate could just be like any on reveal just based on its value.
00:19:59
Speaker
Totally. Although I
Spider-Lore Trivia Game
00:20:00
Speaker
foresee some really broken stuff when you can have six abilities ready to go on turn six. on top of whatever you play on turn six. I hate that telegraph stuff so much. What I'm going to do is I'm going to build deck with all my counters in it. The kind of deck I love to play anyway. If you get that ambitious and that greedy for your big final play, like your parade is going to get rained upon at least sometimes with some frequency, I think.
00:20:30
Speaker
Uh, with a really, uh, fuckin' hot Flaviano Storm variant is how I would mean on that parade. I'm just sayin'. Well, I'm gonna activate my Aranya to enter your flooded zone. Just sayin'.
00:20:45
Speaker
Not if I killed it with Killmonger, because you couldn't activate it until they turn after you played it. This is what I'm saying. I'm going to play a counter surfer deck. I love counter surfer decks, because all I want to do is play counters all day long. All I want to do is ruin other people's fun. And my problem is that you can't get enough power in it, right? like and But with surfer, you can. And that's what I'm going to do when everyone's trying to activate it. I'm like, Red Guardian, go, bro, go, like everybody. Surfer's very good at that. because it can add It can run so much tech and still have power. It can. It sure can. I know. It's a good deck. That's why it looks so different. It's funny you talk about ruining everybody's day because I hate Sandman and I have it i had the awakening this this week where somebody played a Sandman on me for the however many a time and I was like, you're actively a bad person. Afterwards, I'm like, okay, you're not a bad person.
00:21:42
Speaker
You're just ruining my fun. And then I was like, but wait, my favorite decks are like clog and lockdown. I am the Sandman player. I just don't like Sandman. It's just not my flavor. Oh, for sure. Yep. I think I'm still a castle kicker, and that was a rude awakening. I haven't tilted at Sandman. Normally I would, because I was just, sorry, you were saying good.
00:22:02
Speaker
Oh no, I was just saying, like ah a lot of the a lot of the things that work are things that ah are feel unfair to your opponent, like putting power in different places than they're expecting. like They think we're playing a good, honorable game where all the cards stay where they are, and I'm able to spend my six energy on turn six on my three cards that I wanted to play.
00:22:28
Speaker
But like, you know, you change the rules on them with like Sandman or you change the rules and the cards aren't where you thought they were or like that kind of thing. Like the best strategies are a bit rude. Or just energy cheat. Energy cheat is everywhere across the history of Snap if you look at the top of the meta. I mean, it's broken in card games, in like all card games. You probably shouldn't make things that make things cheaper. It's just, I don't know.
00:22:57
Speaker
Maybe they're a lot of fun. I mean, we all play them. They're a blast. But then you just put Mobius in your surfer deck. But you can energy cheat with Wiccan or with Electra or Arisham.
00:23:14
Speaker
People out there that Quicksilvering down the nose. I know, they can get it with Wiccan. It's like you've earned it. Show me what you will do with your extra two. That's what I did literally last time I saw Wiccan hit. I'm like, please show me what you will do with your extra two energy. think Yeah, right. It's true. You have to be able to back it up. I'm not sure that Wiccan is the best at doing that.
00:23:38
Speaker
I've heard a lot of people, I have i haven't witnessed it. Wiccan's gone from my meta, but I've heard people say he's best when he's like your secondary plan, not your primary plan. Same with Hulkling. They're just it' just very difficult to like... and Yeah, you can't really build around, although for Wiccan you kind of have to or else he doesn't work. I don't know.
00:24:01
Speaker
Well, that's an awful lot we to say about somebody with Spider-Man. Let's move on to the other card, the Spotlight card. Silver Sable, a 1-1, on-reveal, steal 2 power from the top card of your opponent's deck. I did not get her. Did either of you? I haven't yet. I have kind of a lot of resources because, you know, I've been skipping some things, um but I might get her. Reed, did you get her?
00:24:30
Speaker
I did not, um, because I don't, I, I dislike bounce more than I dislike move. Like literally I was playing a bounce player and every turn, like I'm watching the turn tick down. And I'm like, I know they're thinking about all their little lines with their like stuff. They'd be sit in their falconing and stuff. I'm still like, uh, so, you know.
00:24:54
Speaker
and So that's why I just like bounce, both playing it and playing against it. But, uh, that, and I don't have Ajax and for me, it's like, I kind of won Ajax from pick up. So I didn't get her played against her a bit though. She hasn't tilted me. Like it's like, ah, I w I really would have liked my strong guy to have that extra two power, but like, Oh well, you know, so anyway, the meme, so like, so like I've enjoyed her bitch and she hasn't, but she hasn't tilted me. So, you know,
00:25:24
Speaker
I don't think she's as disruptive as Iceman. No, not even a little bit. The thing about afflicting cards that aren't on the board is that they might never end up on the board. um And like if if your opponent didn't want to play that card anyway, you have just played a Vanilla 1-3.
00:25:41
Speaker
And that's... Which, like, vanilla 1-3 is maybe better than... i Like, Zero and Blade, they're 1-3 as downsides, but you only play
Silver Sable's Fictional Background
00:25:50
Speaker
them when they're upsides. Not true. Yeah, yeah. Those are 1-3s with upsides. Right, exactly. ah So I think she's weird. I do think bounce is the way to go. I have been fascinated at how polarized the...
00:26:05
Speaker
ah both prediction and reception on silver sable is like I still see people saying she's best of the season and I'm like, I o I don't see her being viable outside of balance like some pretty Yeah, he said vanilla one three. That's not why do I want that?
00:26:23
Speaker
i know I know I'm the only person who thinks this card should be compared to America Chavez, but like, America Chavez has two big advantages, that you can build your own deck, you can't build your opponent's deck, you can't fill it with Broods and Iron Mans and Beta Ray Bills and cards that would care about losing power. And you also can't make your opponent play cards, whereas you you want to play whatever you just America Chavez'd. So, I don't know. So buffing the top card of your deck is better than buffing a one-cost card?
00:26:54
Speaker
Sable is vulnerable to Killmonger. The extra power on Sable is not good power to have. And the afflicting things that aren't on the board, that's the softest, most intangible, wispy-ass... That's some maybe power right there. That doesn't count. Silver Sable is not a 1-5 unless they play the card. I don't know. Yeah. She hasn't stopped me from playing a card from my hand yet, I don't think. I'm sure she will someday.
00:27:23
Speaker
But hit it's just, like I said, just not even on the same level as as Iceman. I am not intimidated when I see a Sable. Right? Like, when her or Selene, like, hit my Dracula, I'm like, oh, that's cute. That's adorable, that little, like, two or three pack you took away from from Dracula. Anyway, so, ah yeah, that's how I feel about it.
00:27:50
Speaker
I like bounce enough to consider her, but also I want every other card this season, and I'm very interested in in symbiote season, and I keep seeing people say that they think ah bounce is going to shift to be move bounce. And she doesn't belong in move bounce, so. Yeah. I wonder if all that said I wouldn't mind having her. I would love to have her. just like No, no, it'd be it'd be fun.
00:28:17
Speaker
like I mean, as far as move bouncing goes, like I'm sure she's a good friend to werewolf by night. And ah but that's not nothing. But a lot of cards are friends with werewolf by night. and Like, any odd reveal is friends with werewolf by night. I take all of your werewolf decks when I play. I'm like, oh, I could just take move out of here. Put another one. That's what I want to do with all your werewolf decks I play.
00:28:49
Speaker
You're missing out. It's sacrilegious or something. It's what I love about the deck. Whenever I really get into it, it's like, whoo, because moving werewolf is around is so much fun. And it's like, I could do this better if I wasn't worrying about where fucking dagger is going to go and shit. But like, werewolf is so good with Heimdall because like he runs over to wherever Heimdall is.
00:29:11
Speaker
Or, like, he's also really good with, like, if you play Iron Fist as the last thing on 5, and then, like, you play Magneto or something, and you've got, like, a giant werewolf. Magneto slides to the left, but that's okay, you're still winning that lane, because werewolf followed him there. Like, that kind of thing, like... Do you have a Hercules there? And he bounces? No, no. Jeez, he pees. What is it with people and this card? I don't get it. I never have. I may never.
00:29:38
Speaker
i like I wanted to believe in Hercules when he came out, but like the he's just not there. like I can't ah keep polish a turd that hard. You can't take the zero to a hero.
00:29:52
Speaker
Oh, I want my Hulkling to be a Hyrule. You cannot go the distance.
00:29:59
Speaker
I need a move card. All right. Next week's spotlight, I think I already know the answers, but Madam Web 2-1 ongoing, you can move one of your other cards away from here each turn.
00:30:12
Speaker
I'm getting her for sure. Yeah, we all are. We all rated her both ranked her number one. And I ranked her three or four and during the episode. And then right before the season dropped, I changed it to two.
Closing Remarks and Reflection
00:30:30
Speaker
um You're like, Ria and Ben have converted me. What's her number one, Lauren? Ananya. Ah, OK. And I really think.
00:30:42
Speaker
I think for sure it's one of the two. like They enable so much and they're so flexible. It's one of the hardest things about doing a stack ranking is like how much do you value flexibility over how much do you value niche strength? I don't know, like taking Ajax. Ajax is really good niche strength and that's it. He has no flexibility.
00:31:03
Speaker
I don't want to entirely rehash the the stack rankings or anything. But like I feel like maybe I was voting for my heart when I put Madam Web at number one. I kind of think Scarlet Spider is just going to be a problem card. But I don't know. We'll see. Yeah. She's the card I'm most excited for.
00:31:22
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I think she'll be good. She absolutely would have been no-brainer number one for me if she was still a 2-3. That's the only reason I dropped her. I don't know that i don't know that she's as flexible at a 2-1, but the things that she does go in are very good. So... I mean, she's a permanent space stone. I was never a Thanos person, but like that was the stone that was always like, oh gosh, well now I now now i know how it feels and when the move things happen.
00:31:49
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Yeah, that was the one that they nerfed first, right? Yeah, like that's that's a problem stone. Time stone is also a problem stone. But yeah, those two I felt were trouble. even Like you play her with a torch dagger and vulture, you get to move each of them for free once without spending a card or energy. It's just I feel like being able to move something away from a location is like three times more valuable than being able to move it to a location. yeah you know I mean, they both have their place. Sometimes Ghost Spider is the right one cost mover for the job.
00:32:29
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But the others do have their advantages. I remembered my random thought. It was about Lawrence. like how How strongly do you rate a card for it being very niche? And I think there is an argument to be made for the strength of the niche. If Silver stables a bounce card, but there's lots of good bounce cards that she's just one of, as opposed to, say, like a very integral discard.
00:32:51
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card, like arguably modoc or something, right? So then it's like, hey, if you want to play that genre, you kind of want to have this core card to it versus it's niche and it's one of many alternatives, right? And I think you can factor that into where it goes in the rankings. Right. Yeah, that's a that is a lot of what I ah evaluate when I'm doing a ranking is like, how many decks does this upgrade and how big is the upgrade, right?
00:33:20
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um I think like to keep it specific to bounce, like you were mentioning, it's like next season we're getting a new bouncer, we're getting Toxin, who's a two-cost bounce card. like That's a way better bounce card than than Sable. Well, I mean, it's it's a card that does the bouncing, whereas Sable is the bouncy. That's what I meant to say. i might say as He is an enabler, right? Yeah. like He's the reason for the season. She's just ah an ornament on the tree.
00:33:48
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Now I'm just picturing Beast, Sam Wilson, and et cetera just as bouncers outside a bar. Well, that's why Luke's bar is like the bounce location. like that's That's the reason, I think. like That's how I always read it. i thought it It's very good. onde design um mean it's in the It's in the animation too, totally. ah Okay.
00:34:18
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youth Okay, and in the spotlight also with Madam Web is Silk and Eliaf. I personally think it's worth going in. Silk also is rough. Yeah. Yeah. She can go 2-6, right? I really hope this means, yeah. She can absolutely, she must. like It's it's's overdue. They need, like, get what get with the show, Gram, guys. 2-6 Silk yesterday.
00:34:40
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All right. That's all I'm going to say about it. When I was looking at the show notes though, I was thinking the same thing. I'm like, I'm going to bring up how silk... She used to be... When I got her, she was the first card I ever bought with 5K tokens. I've loved the character. I've read her since she was created. I'm a huge silk the character fan.
00:34:57
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And I used to play her all the time. She was great reach because I would play her a Jeff a lot. It would be her a Jeff. But now there's so many more options for reach. You've got Nocturne, you've got like other cards and her brand, you know what I mean? It's just become more and more a liability as we get more into playing a lot more cards, you know, out on the board rather than fewer. And it's like, she needs a buff. Like, I play so because I want to play her not because she's really great in any of my decks, you know? Oh, I play her because she's really great, but... Well, you're a move player, I guess, and you're playing creative. 2.5 is not the stat line it used to be. ah like She used to be bigger than the average 3 cost, and now she is roughly the same size as the average 3 cost with a good ability. And like her ability is...
00:35:47
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good, but in like a balanced and, you know, potentially being like, you know, ah it is a double edged sword in some ways, even even though it can be harnessed for your benefit. Like you are assuming some risk when you play silk. And so she needs to be bigger.
00:36:06
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Correct. Also, I saw this, I don't know, someone said this online recently and it has haunted me ever since. They said, how is Cyclops still, like, Cyclops is vanilla, right? A 3-4. And how do you have cards with stat lines better than vanilla and also really good abilities like copycat? You know what I mean? it's like To me, there's just a lot of power creep going on. like Cards are getting worse because they're putting better abilities on higher-statted cards. I don't know. Well, i mean like it all started with Polaris, but then when they did the Spider-Man rework, it was like, whoa, now! Yeah, I think... Okay.
00:36:50
Speaker
It's okay to have, cards like Cyclops is a starter card. It's okay to have ways to upgrade your collection by getting cards that are just strictly better. The whole point is for him to start in that starter deck and then get replaced with like...
00:37:04
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what's What's the three-cost card that replaces it? It's like how they start you with Shocker, and then they like give you ah some two, three that actually does something. Sentinel, that's right. Sentinel's one of the first cards you get, and they're like, take out Shocker, put in Sentinel. You made the deck better. And I think there's a similar moment when they give you a three-cost that actually does something, and you're supposed to take Cyclops out of your starter deck and put a real card in. I just don't remember what the three-cost was.
00:37:30
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if Feels like a perfect upgrade, which is awesome. And then later you get high evo and that's cool. ah but But I also think that there's a lot of room for them to kind of like correct for power creep. There's a lot of cards that can use a one or two point buff. And I'm interested in a game that is more ah cards cards that are better because I'm being smarter or more clever with them, not just because they are the obvious best choice in slot.
00:38:01
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Yeah, but they gotta leave room for that. For the lower cards, you know what I mean? To still have a place. Like, this is why one reason I said I love Snap as opposed to Magic the Gathering. Because in Magic the Gathering you absolutely have cards of the same sense. Just this card is just a better card than that card. One of them's bad. Yeah, and sometimes it's just the differences that one's a common and one's a... You know what I mean? Like... Yeah.
00:38:24
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And it's like, snap, every single card is unique. Every single card is unique. There's no card that's the exact same card as another card with the worst stat line. So it's like, but so when I see this thing where it's like, oh, you're right, they're moving. They had this vanilla line that was Hulk, you know, all of those cards through and they used to represent. It's like, okay, you know, a card with a good ability is going to have a worse stat than vanilla. right? And that was the philosophy. And you saw it followed for a long time. And now it's just off that scale. Now vanilla is just old. Just it's like if you're not going to high evo those cards, you know, like, like, yeah do you even want to play him in Patriot anymore? No, because Ultron is so much better than he used to be. Right. Why not just stack up your copies of Patriot with an Ultron and a magic to make sure it happens. I used to love playing a deck that had regular abomination cyclops stuff.
00:39:18
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with a dazzler and and nonsense. And it's like, it's just not good anymore. Anyway, saying, I want, I want every card to have a home and a place and not be like, Oh yeah. You know, I mean, now X-Men, you know, like Cyclops, like, you know, he's got cool variants. He's got the little fun laser eye ability. Like, you know, justice for non-evolved Cyclops, maybe, I don't know. Yeah, for sure. Surfer Patriot used to be a thing. I wonder if that would be yeah good anymore. No. To tie it in.
00:39:55
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Hey, surfer patriot with rude. It's fine, but not with Cyclops not not with cyclops anymore. I know what you're talking about. I remember that. Okay, sorry. Of patriot Cyclops. And now he's not even good. He's not even good in the deck in which he is the pinnacle of surfer patriot. All right, sorry. I'm very upset about this.
00:40:18
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Moving on. We were talking about niche strength, right? And I think that's how you make cards diverse. like Like maybe a card is weaker usually. There's a clear winner. Like this is the best best in slot most of the time. But there's these niche scenarios where this other card can shine. And I do think we have quite a bit of, ah especially in the two and three cost range where there's cards that are just, they just go in everything. Even even in your niche decks.
00:40:49
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And also Mantis. I've tried so hard. And it crowds out the others. I've tried so hard. There's no place for Mantis for so long and for so hard. I've tried. Please change Mantis. Let me play my Rollerblade's Mantis. I can't do it. It is such a good variant. I like that illustration a lot. I can't find a deck for her. I have tried and she's still the first cut. She's still the cut that I want to make the most for a better card.
00:41:12
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What if they just like didn't tie her to location? I know that then she breaks the Guardians of the Galaxy like pattern. What if you just get, like I don't know, the lowest power card your opponent played that time or something? Ooh, like a leader? like ah But you get a cheerleader. Yeah, like a harder to use leader. And they make her like a three costumes. That obviously needs to be a higher cost card if you're just stealing a card that they're playing. I don't know. like if you I mean right and mean, if we're looking at like White Queen, although she's been power crept. But that's fair for Mantis.
00:41:43
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Can we come back to this next week? How about we all come up with a Mantis proposal for next week? We're talking for next week. Let's not work it out on the air. How we should work Mantis. Mantis week. Okay. That's our homework. Okay, say. We're excited for Madam Love. We talked about her a lot last time. You know I want to put her in junk. You know I want to move the void. like um yeahs great idea re
00:42:16
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I'm so jealous you thought of that and not me. I'm just saying I didn't expect the madam web topic to go to Mantis. That's all I'm saying. Well, we meander. I'd snap on that. If we ended with then it just works for everything.
00:42:38
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We didn't even talk about Elias. He's great. If you're missing Elias, send your keys. Elias is one of those court courts. I never used it, but I'm glad I could if I wanted to. OK. Especially with their man. I sleep better knowing that he's in my collection.
00:42:53
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It's good. Any time you can get prio, it's another thing that ruins, it's like Sandman. Do you want to ruin a deck that's all about turn six? Like, you know, it's good. I guess the Alayith isn't it, isn't it? I don't know why I gendered it. Who knows? Who knows? Well, I'm glad it's in my collection.
00:43:13
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It's a security blanket of nasty cloud. I think he does get, I think, he I think, Elias say he. You think so? Okay. He's comics so very often both, both different pronouns at different times in the length of the comics history. So I wouldn't be surprised for Elias to be honest. We learned so much about our thoughts on Madam Web. Literally all three episodes we've done so far and also next week's fa episode.
00:43:41
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ah ah See if see if ah the hype lives on. ah And now we're gonna move on to something from Ben. All right, I've brought a topic this week, and as I sometimes do, this topic's actually a game. From the creator of the great maybe snap review game, are they gruntled about this? Comes a new competition.
00:44:09
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The only similarity is that once again, I simply cannot be bothered to keep track of the competitor's scores. So they've got to worry about that. And this one is even better. It's got a theme song. That's right. Very original. um You may recognize the melody, maybe. Here it goes.
00:44:32
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maybe Maybe I'll take some liberties with it. I don't want us to get copyright claimed or nothing. um But I think this would be fair use in any case.
00:44:42
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Spider-Lore, Spider-Lore, Spider-Lore from 2004. Is it new? No, it's old. Listen to what you're being told. That's right. It's time for Spider-Lore. All right. It's time to test your knowledge of outdated, defunct Spider-Man trivia from roughly 2004. All right. Now, did I come up with the very fun song before I checked the publication date of this book?
00:45:13
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Spider-man the ultimate guide. Yes. Yes, I did. It actually came out in 2001 but spider lore from 2004 There's like It's not all from this book, but this book is the the main source. So if you own this book don't Don't cheat and read it ever again, because I will be referring to this book in the future for future editions of Spider-Lore from 2004. So don't crack the spine if you own this book. um Yeah. I would like to say for the jury that I do not own this book. OK. And have not read it.
00:45:50
Speaker
Good. That's what we like to hear. That's what we like to hear. So now that you've heard the song and the general premise, um that's right. All of this is pre MCU trivia. All of it is probably wrong now. It's all probably been retconned. I think especially the topic or the main topic of today. ah And to introduce that topic.
00:46:14
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According to Spider-Man, The Ultimate Guide by Tom DeFalco, who is the Marvel world's most famous mercenary? Wait, who are we? Who gets the answer? Oh, that's right. ah Yeah. ah the You spoke first, but that was the rule last time, so now it's Lauren. I told i told you last time knew that's not number one.
00:46:38
Speaker
um ah All right, so, Lauren, you're going first. The question is to you, according to Spider-Man the Ultimate Guide, who is the world's most famous mercenary. Man, I don't even know mercenaries besides the besides Deadpool. um I'll give you a hint. It's not Deadpool. Okay, that's helpful. I was going to try to come up with something else anyway.
00:47:02
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i
00:47:06
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I mean, that that j Jonah Jameson is awfully mercenary. He's a journalist. Goodness gracious.
00:47:19
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Not always a particularly good one, but that is his chosen profession. I'm just going to go with Craven. He's a hunter. but i'm I got nothing. Not a bad guess. He is definitely featured in this book, but no. Silver Sable. That's right. That's where I know Silver Sable from this book. But yes. And now. with next
00:47:54
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Ree, maybe you had some fun watching Lauren flop around and flounder. Oh no! This always happens to me. I laughed too hard before my- Yeah, I gotta warn you, this one's a little tougher. Oh no. But hey, I know that you are a comics reader. What is the name of Silver- Silver Sables' father? What's his name? I don't know anything about this. You get either one right. I'll give it to you if you get one of the two names.
00:48:25
Speaker
First or last? Charles. Pick a last name. Yep. That's my guess is Charles. All right. Well, you're super wrong. So far. Oh my gosh. Silver Sable is like not a character. I'm super be familiar with it. Yeah, and nobody is. that's That's not true. That's not true. I'm sure there's a Silver Sable super fan listening. and and no like i like I like her all right. i've got i've got I've got some Silver Sable hero clicks figures and things. i I know her from video games and stuff. No, her father's name is Ernst Sublenovia. How did you miss that?
00:49:11
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I've also seen her last name as Sablanovia. I think sometimes they're just making it up a little bit as they go along with some vowels and they swap them out. I get where the Sable came from. Yeah, uh-huh. But Ernst. That's his name. Lauren, this one's also kind of hard. What's the name of Silver Sable's country? Because you know, she's like Dr. Doom and she's got her own country. Yes.
00:49:41
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it's not that very I've definitely read it on Marvel Wiki within the last two months. um
00:49:50
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Where's she from? She's still silver from the block, but where's the block? Some kind of Slavia or something. No, it's definitely fake Eastern European, you're right.
00:50:05
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i all All right, yeah if if that was as close as you wanted to guess. My guess is something Slavia. She hails from Simcaria. It's got a Y in it. that's That's very fun and also strange. I wonder where it is in geographic relation to Madripur. Anywho. I wonder where the Y is.
00:50:28
Speaker
Oh, it's ah it's it's right at the beginning. S-Y-M-K-A-R-I-A. Also, maybe she's from a different place now. This book was written in 2001. That's a long time ago. ah Things change. Anywho, uh-oh, did we lose somebody? She's gone. Oh, wow. She really didn't want to answer that question. Damn.
00:50:51
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Please hold for technical difficulties. With that brief interruption, I think we are now ready to resume Spider-Lore, Spider-Lore, Spider-Lore from 2004. Also known as Rie and Lauren know nothing about Silver's table. Yeah, well, sorry about that. Be more knowledgeable about ah next up the next week's topic. Who knows? or the Or the next time we play this game's topic.
00:51:20
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Now we're all Lauren. Oh, that's too good.
00:51:32
Speaker
Okay. Are we ready to really resume? I feel like i was I wasn't speaking with the, the broadcasting charisma that I would like to bring. Oh, no, you can. Yeah, that's it. Okay.
00:51:47
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Ree, it's the fourth question. It's your turn. What is the name of Silver Sable's signature projectile weapon? ah She has her own special little throwing stars with a cute name. Oh, um, they're probably... They look dorky as hell. I'll show you a picture in a second. Silver, silver stars. I don't know.
00:52:15
Speaker
Nothing quite so bespoke. No, just the chai, spelled like like the T. Really? Yep, I'll i'll show you. they They're really dorky looking. They're they're like, ah you know how Mugatu has his little throwing star that looks like an M in Zoolander? They basically look like that. um Oh, no. All right, Lauren, are you ready to get one right?
00:52:45
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yeah What is the name of Silver Sables' team of mercenaries? Silver Squad!
00:52:57
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um Maybe it's a reference to Sables, and her her other teammates are like minks and ermines. um
00:53:12
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nothing um I feel like you sometimes actually like hear about these. like this yeah This might have some name recognition. You might feel silly if if you don't. It's kind of a generic name. There are two answers I'll accept. It doesn't use the word silver at all. um One of the answers does, but it's not the good answer. It's not the right answer.
00:53:40
Speaker
Okay. Uh, the crew. That's a very good guess. Uh, you're sort of in the right ballpark, the wild pack. That's a, that's her gang of mercenaries, but I also would have accepted silver sable international, which is her company, I guess, of which the wild pack is just one, uh, branch or whatever. All right.
00:54:08
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So, so far we're. It's zero to zero, sounds like. Well, maybe one of us know a single fact about Silver Sable. All right, so for the sixth question, we're gonna make this one real easy. I'm gonna make it multiple choice.
00:54:26
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okay Which of the following, I believe these are all published by Activision, which of the following Activision video games And just in case they weren't all published by Activision, I think they were though. Okay, there's Activision's 2000 Spider-Man game for the PlayStation and the PC. That's A. Did Silver Sable appear in that one? Did she appear in the Ultimate Spider-Man video game on the PlayStation 2 and GameCube? Or did she appear in Marvel Ultimate Alliance on a variety of consoles and things?
00:55:07
Speaker
I mean, I- A. Spider-Man 2000. B. Ultimate Spider-Man. C. Marvel Ultimate Alliance. She had to be in Marvel Ultimate Alliance, one of them at least, right? Maybe. No way they look stable out of all of those. Maybe one of them. But it is Marvel in total. I'm specifically talking about the first one. It is Marvel in total, and this was, okay, I think it's gotta be Spider-Man, um, 2000A. You think that's the one she appeared in?
00:55:39
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I don't think it's, I feel like Ultimate's more recent, right? Than 2004? Video game? Yeah, yeah, 2004 is a ballpark. Ultimate Spider-Man came out, that video game came out, I wanna say in like 2006 or 2007. I will, you know what? In your book it's from 2004! Yeah, I just met in the hell out of it. No, I told you that like, they aren't all from the book. Oh, okay. That's just like where a lot of the stuff comes from.
00:56:07
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This is the weird one. Okay, Ultimate Spider-Man, the video game, is from 2005. So it's it's, again, in in the 2004 ballpark. I mean, I can't change my answer if it was like a meta, you know? Like, I feel like I have to stand by my original. The only one of those games that she appeared in was Ultimate Spider-Man. I knew that was gonna be it. I'm sorry.
00:56:33
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no There's a mission where the Wild Check is coming after you and they're all shooting at you and stuff, and you're like, yeah I'm trying to chase Venom or something. I don't remember. But but no, there there is a level where there are mercenaries harassing you sent by Silver Sable. As a D&D player, I deserved it for trying to meta the game. I think as a D and&D player, you should have known better than to try and meta the game.
00:57:01
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and ah Maybe, maybe you extra don't deserve it. I don't know. That's okay. Maybe this is just a bad game. Maybe, maybe the fact that you had to try to make it. Cause normally I want to show off my comics knowledge. You just don't happen to. but tap All right. Here's a, here's a bonus question for anyone who would like to jump in. What gameplay advantage does the symbiote suit offer in Activision's Spider-Man 2000? Unlimited web. Lauren.
00:57:33
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You were right on the money. That's exactly it. Unlimited Web Fluid. Goddamn. Lauren, did you know that because you played it? I don't think so. You know it's an interesting... It just felt right. like No, well that no that's that's exactly it. I was like, God, i shit, I thought I was the only one who played that game. Okay. It played a little bit. It's comics accurate. What platform was it on? You said GameCube? Maybe I did play it. It was on PlayStation and it was on PC. I played it on PC, personally. Oh, but I did not play it, no.
00:58:06
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But yeah, that's ah that's why Peter Parker likes this symbiote suit. He doesn't have to make web fluid, and he's lazy as hell. Brilliant but lazy, as ah we've established in Spider-Man 2, the film. But now, to conclude that game, we're going to learn about Silver s Sable, or at least the Silver Sable of 2001. I'm going to ah briefly get you up to date. Who is this character, this femme fatale, with the guns and stuff?
00:58:35
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And apparently some dorky little throwing star. I'm going to I want to make sure I get this on camera so that we all learn what the what the Chai looks like. And how does Chai relate to Silver Sable? Like Chai too? I love it. but like That's a Chai. That right there. Is that just a three? Is that really her like special name? Is it just the name for the weapon?
00:59:04
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Well, I think the three pronged thing that Electra has is a Psy. That's true, yeah. So like, I don't know if it's related. They don't tell me about the etymology. This this book is kind of like for all ages and not for super nerds. No, I typed in chai weapon and the first result is Silver Sable's chai. So what? I think it's an amazing thing. Silver Sable.
00:59:30
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The world's most famous mercenary is a woman called Silver Sable. Born in the tiny European nation of Simcaria, Silver is the daughter of Ernst Sublenovia. He once ran a group of soldiers who hunted Nazi war criminals. Calling his team the Wild Pack, he gained the tacit approval of the Simcarian government. Sadly, his wife, Silver's mother, was killed by terrorists.
00:59:51
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witnessing this horror turned Silver's hair white and made her determined to take over the leadership of the Wild Pack one day. I recall that also happened to the DC character Prometheus. He witnessed a tragedy that turned his hair white, I think, if I'm if i'm recalling correctly. um So I guess that's a thing that comics writers think happens a lot. It happened to me. I had white hair for a while.
01:00:18
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Did it happen abruptly when you witnessed a murder? Uh, no. But my hair went through some tragedy for it.
01:00:29
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Well, she's business-minded. As the number of war criminals decreased, Silver turned the focus of the Wild Pack towards mercenary endeavors. She formed Silver Sable International and began selling her services around the world. Her clients are wealthy individuals, major corporations, and small countries, and her large fees have become Simcaria's major source of income. So she gives back to the community. She's pretty cool. She sounds like a badass. She's like, my mom died, so I'm just gonna, like, take over the whole country. Maybe the world.
01:00:57
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Under the heading, More Than a Match, we learn that Silver Sable's skill in personal combat is so good that she has taken on adversaries like the Punisher, Hydro Man, and Spider-Man. Her weapon of choice is the Chai, a three-pronged throwing projectile of her own design which can stun or disarm an opponent.
01:01:13
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And ah she's got a daily workout. SilverSable sets aside a few hours every day to practice her combat skills. These daily workouts are extremely strenuous and she tests her abilities to the full, sometimes against several opponents several several opponents at the same time. She's even been known to hold business meetings while fighting off her sparring partners.
01:01:34
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Oh my gosh, she's kind of my hero now. I know, right? Like businesswoman, mercenary leader, like combat enthusiast, like primary source of income for your country. Marvel's first girl boss.
01:01:52
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ah Her name, her name is really silver. Like she doesn't have a, that's not her code name. Oh no, that's the thing. I think, I think she since has a more real plausible name. I think, I think this is a side effect of focusing on Spider-Lore from 2004 is that you get some dorky shit that they will have retconned. I love that. So I apologize for reading a book to you briefly. Nobody wants that. I actually really enjoyed that.
01:02:22
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Yeah, all credit goes to Tom DeFalco, who wrote a heck of a coffee table book. ah it's ah I used to eat my breakfast cereal and flip through and learn about all kinds of obscure spider characters. That's how I was ready to go, being like, ah, yes, tombstone, classic B-level Spider-Man villain. You know he's got a page in this bad boy. Rather than read the comics.
01:02:49
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No, I also I also I went through a real big spider-man phase But it's it's helpful to have like a book that just has lore those as a kid like there was one for castles and you're just like yes Yeah, I don't know So thank you for playing spider lore from 2004. I will now Sing the theme song again. Yeah! Spider-lore, spider-lore, spider-lore from 2004. Is it new? No, it's old. Listen to what you've just been told. That's right. This was your spider-lore. I love that. Thank you for playing. Yeah. ah That's a catchy tune.
01:03:40
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Oh, also, what's my favorite line in the real Spider-Man theme song? would Would anyone like to guess? Bonus round. Okay, hum it. There's one line that's better than all the other lines.
01:03:56
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I feel like it's on the tip of my tongue. It's also highly subjective, so maybe your favorite line is different, but Benjamin Roller's favorite line in the Spider-Man theme song is, is he strong? Listen bud, he's got radioactive blood. That is very good. That's the best line. Okay.
01:04:18
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It's a pretty good line. Okay.
01:04:24
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well what other business do we have to attend to is there any housekeeping and all business we're gonna make like silver two high
01:04:37
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Okay, if if you enjoyed our antics, if you want to listen to more, if you want to follow our own i shenanigans on Twitter, ah you can find the show at Snap on this pod, and you can find each of us at Lauren Whatevs at Benjamin underscore roller, and Ree is at its underscore just underscore Ree.
01:04:57
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01:05:34
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