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10: Comin' Out With Her Boss Energy
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After the Splitsmas celebration, your cohosts return to their regular scheduled programming, same Snap time, same Snap channel!! 🦇📺
For our esteemed listeners’ consideration:
- This week in Snap: 📈📉 the highs and lows of Marvel Snap’s new limited-time game mode
- Ben and Lauren get past the unbearable Agony of waiting to talk Toxin 😄🤷♀️
- Anti-Venom and spotlight friends Ghost-Spider & Supergiant
- 🐺 In this week’s Secret Homework the gang suggests you get spooky with the Marvel Disney+ show Werewolf by Night (also in full color)
- Thank you listeners for your comments and feedback!! 😍 (also pls send moar 😘)
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Featured decks:
- Kilgannon’s did i do good?
- SafetyBlade’s Hot Bad Hair Day
- Ben’s Toxic Bounce
- Lauren’s spin on Scott’s Toxin Bounce
Comics Mentioned:
Credits:
- Cover art by Lauren
- Snap On This!! Theme by Ben
- YouTube thumbnail by Lauren's kid, Reggi
Timestamps:
- 0:00:00 Technical difficulties notice
- 0:00:27 Intro / Our Week in Snap
- 0:10:59 New Card: Scorn
- 0:16:32 New Card: Toxin
- 0:30:36 Next Week's Spotlight: Anti-Venom, Ghost-Spider, Supergiant
- 0:46:16 Secret Homework: Design a (Spooky) Location
- 0:59:34 Next Week's Secret Homework
- 1:06:50 Housekeeping / Closing Remarks
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Transcript
00:00:01
Speaker
Hi y'all, editor Lauren here. Just wanted to give a heads up that the last eight minutes of Ben's audio and video i had to be recovered from the internet recording, so they're lower quality, but they're there. And then just a quick apology for this being out late this week. I had vaccines on recording day. The next day, editing day, I spent recovering kind of knocked on my ass. So, should be back on schedule next week. Enjoy the episode.
00:00:27
Speaker
Hello, and welcome to episode 10 of Snap on This. I'm Lauren Whatevs here today with my co-hosts, as always. First up, it's an even week, so we're starting with Benjamin Roller. How was your week in Snap and keep it snappy? Oh, I will endeavor to keep it snappy. Okay, so the week in Snap.
00:00:49
Speaker
Played a fair amount of high voltage. That was like a large large fraction of my my snap participation this past week. It's an alright game mode. I will not be particularly sad to see it go. I got got the card. I did not get the Iron Man variant. That's okay. um i suppose Is it still going on, ah I think?
00:01:17
Speaker
Right? Yeah. For another day or two. I'm probably not. Yeah. I think it'll be done by the time this airs. Yeah, by the time this airs, it's over. So I probably didn't get the Iron and Man variant. um That's fine. I kept working on Scorn things.
00:01:35
Speaker
i ah Man, I just i love Strong Guy right now. This podcast, very pro Strong Guy, as we've established. I haven't played him recently, it's sad.
00:01:47
Speaker
Yeah, so lips stay my scorn stuff is like I the next scorn deck I build I am going to you know, you always have to like challenge some of the conventional wisdom when you're trying to like Come up with something new So like I was trying to go no Dracula, no Apocalypse, but I think it is time to relent and start cooking with Dracula and Apocalypse in swarm. Or er not swarm. Scorn, rather. but so But I've been trying like a lower curve thing, and that's been working pretty well. As far as the stuff I've been experimenting with, it's been working very well. I've been playing a lot of bad stuff that doesn't work this past week to the extent that I have been playing any ladder at all.
00:02:32
Speaker
Um, so that's still evolving. I don't have any, anything that's nuts yet there. There's a little too much Cosmo going around these days for my liking. I think, uh, that's just sort of ruining my enjoyment across the board. Uh, I play a lot of stuff that doesn't like Cosmo. What can I say on reveals are fun and cool and like kind of the the joy of the game.
00:02:56
Speaker
The primary ability? Yeah, I'm so i'm still out here surfing. I've been trying the surfer without surfer. I also have been trying a version where I've put surfer back in in the Jeff spot. um I don't know. I haven't been playing on PC, so it's hard to like compare stats and see like what's really working and what feels like it's working.
00:03:18
Speaker
um i even ah Speaking of things I tried on Ladder this week, I tried a deck from a listener on Twitter. I was contacted, and ah the the deck had Scarlet Spider in it, so I was like, well, hell yeah, I'll give it a shot. It was an Amora joint. I believe the Twitter user was Kilganan, and um yeah, it was it was pretty fun. I won a couple games with that.
00:03:44
Speaker
i It had a lot of moving things. I think maybe there was a Madame Web that I might... if i If I play with that listener's deck further, I might cut the Madame Web and do something else there. I don't know. That's that's just a secret, secret tip to you, Kilganan. Maybe try cutting Madame Web from that. I don't know. Also, maybe it's working. I probably haven't played it as much as you did. So if if you think your deck is in in its optimal form, then stick with it. Dang it.
00:04:14
Speaker
Other than that I played a fair amount in the past day or so with toxin the new card and That's basically all the snap I've been playing haven't done any conquest have been playing a crap ton of Hades 2 big fan of the black coat the final of the nocturnal arms ah It makes millenoy into a ah Kingdom Hearts Iron Man ah Just shooting locked-on missiles and all kinds of dope shit um So yeah, if if you're not feeling snap, Hades 2 is a pretty cool game to play right now. That's what I say. But yeah, mostly I've been playing toxin the past couple days. So we're going to talk about toxin in a minute, and I'll have more to say. Yeah. ah I haven't tried the Hades 2 yet, but I am definitely looking forward to it. I know I said I was going to, because I'm done with Zelda, but I switched to Steam World Dig 2.
00:05:11
Speaker
Steamworld Heist 2. That's the one. yeah I think Steamworld Heist 2. I've heard great things about it. The Besties loved that one. Loved the first one, so just started the second one. It has been fun so far. Anyway, we're on Weekend Snap. Rhee, how was yours? Okay, I will refrain from the other video game chat. You can mention one.
00:05:37
Speaker
okay i i save it for for n band too um Okay, so my week and snap, of course. It was pretty much all high voltage because I don't think I finished the track until Sunday, because of course I got the Iron Man. It was a limited time variant that one could get through grinding, and as we've established from my second place near 12,000 points in leagues, um I have unhealthy relationships to video games.
00:06:08
Speaker
So, um, but that's actually late. A lot of people were getting stuff way earlier than me. Um, I mostly played, okay, at the beginning, here's my journey with high voltage. At the beginning, I mostly played, um, uh, my friend and yours, uh, Scott of ah snapped up fan writer's famed deck.
00:06:30
Speaker
Um, cause I won lines. It is the kind of deck my, my heart greatly desires. And then it has really flexible and has a lot of counter options because as much as, as Ben loves to just like seeing how high he can ping little cards into power. I love, I love ruining someone's day. Who's trying to do that.
00:06:53
Speaker
So, um, and this was, it was just like, you know, cause it's for high voltage. So it's built for energy one mirage. Anytime I can play mirage, I'm so excited because she is a good card and she is a fun card, both. And she gets cut from so many ducks somewhat unfairly cause she's so great, but it's just, you know, she got competition in that two slot. So.
00:07:16
Speaker
um but it also you know it had shang it had enchantress so if you if you were ahead on prio it had negasonic it had elias it didn't matter where you were at you were ruining the ruining their day in some way or another so i started with that and that was winning and then like a lot of people i kind of burned out in high voltage and i realized the point of high voltage was not to win because winning just gets you 20 voltage points, which is like nothing in the scheme in the scheme of the treadmill of the track. It's an unhealthy thing to look at like that 2000 points and be like, I'll get there 20 points at a time, don't do it. And the missions aren't generally centered around winning. right It's just like play a bunch of energy, play a bunch of power, play certain cost cards.
00:08:05
Speaker
The fun of high voltage, and this is where I got in, is when I got into, I brought in my, um, I'm still tinkering with it a bit, my scoring deck. Lately I've introduced, I've taken out Wong and introduced Grandmaster. That's where I met with my scoring.
00:08:21
Speaker
stuff. But this was still Wong's scenario, but it works for all the energy, right? And that's what I brought in. And I stopped caring about winning the game because that wasn't going to finish my missions anyway. It wasn't the point. It was making really fun Wong's scoring plays.
00:08:40
Speaker
You know and just like watching that go off I stopped caring what they were doing so much unless it was ruining my day and I think that's the point of voltage and why it's a short-term thing and Hopefully next time for me. They just like banned different cards um Because it's like I don't need another high voltage of everyone playing Ebony Ma as much as I played so many Mirage 1 9 Ebony Ma turn 3 alongside my own 1 7 Ebony Ma and But yeah, so that was my weekend snap line. What were you up to? All right, yeah, I similarly went through the high voltage journey where I was playing around and then the meta kind of seemed to settle or at least like, you know, people were playing a lot more good decks instead of just having fun. And it was like, well, almost all the points are coming from
00:09:37
Speaker
missions. So I was purely focused on missions. I had like an energy deck that, you know, had like all the energy cards in it. um Not a Electro because of that guy. But you know, Arisham and Wiccan and it's just like, let's make sure we're getting 20 energy to spend. um And yeah, I knocked out missions pretty fast. I also went for Iron Man. I don't know why because I'm never going to use him.
00:10:04
Speaker
variant you're never going to use is worth like 24 credits. So ah like I passed on the conquest before I, I should have passed on this, but I didn't anyway. um I Played around with Agony. I have a clip that I got doing a triple merge with Hulkbuster, Phoenix Force, and some Bailt Spider-Man. Tried to make it happen with Agony. It was very difficult. I'm gonna wait for a helpful, hot location. ah So, that was great for my rank. I hope that sounded like it was laced with sarcasm, because it was.
00:10:38
Speaker
right And then, Toxin came out, which we're gonna talk about in just a second, but I played a lot for a Tuesday. um Yeah, I had a lot of fun with that card. ah and And reversed my my rank's direction with what Agony did to him. So, with that, let's move on. Let's talk about Agony. A 1-2, after you play a card here, merge this with it.
00:11:08
Speaker
ah to One, two, one. Or wait, no, a one, two. We're talking about agony. Oh my gosh, I was like, are we talking about toxin yet? I just want to talk about toxin. Agony is first. Get through the agony. Resisting toxic impulses, Ben. All right. Indulgence in agony. Full disclosure, agony is a card I have not yet played. I have obtained, not not put it in the deck yet, no. Oh my gosh. um i like so i I dropped to rank like 28,000 again. um You may remember from last week, that's where I climbed from. I don't know, listeners who are various stew and love numbers with my hand jump deck. ah I went from 28,000 to 18,000. I went right back to 28,000 with Agony trying to grind with her.
00:11:58
Speaker
but I also put her in a deck. Well, I didn't do this. I used a Safety Blade deck that used Agony. um A very fun one that used Agony and Hulkbuster and Nomura is a Scarlet Spider deck. And I... Oh, I didn't see this. Oh, it's good. I for sure got a gold ticket with it. I think I got an infinity ticket with it. um It's really fun. There are a lot of play lines, but it's like, okay, so there's one Agony deck.
00:12:29
Speaker
There's more than one, right? like she works with um She works with Deadpool, obviously. That's what I did with her. The thing that safety did with her, besides Nomura stuff, was also Elsa stuff. And it's like, nice because you can play the card, get the Elsa benefit, and then it absorbs into agony to make space again. So it was very cool. I had a lot of fun with it, but she is just like a...
00:12:54
Speaker
She's just a little quirky card. I would not suggest somebody get her. If they missed her on high voltage, I would not say spend 3000 tokens on this card. That's a huge Deadpool, like, destroyed player, I think. I so this is where I'm sad I didn't see the second get a play because that's like, I'm very disappointed in myself that I didn't put together yet, like, a Nomura, Scarlet Spider. I know even even with the even Scarlet Spider.
00:13:22
Speaker
um into this. What I did immediately was put Agony into my Deadpool Destroy Deck that I've talked about before, replacing her with Rania. And honestly, in some ways it was more of a side grade because you don't get the extra death hit, you know, because Agony merges. So um in some ways, but in other she's better and she worked fine there.
00:13:50
Speaker
um And I think that's right. She's she's better than a Hulkbuster, in my opinion, be just because she's so much cheaper, right? like um And easier to slot in. So, you know, she fits in well there. I think that's what a lot of people did with her. It is where I want to play her, though, with nomora um but fine in a is was great in a Deadpool Destroy Deck. Oh, good.
00:14:18
Speaker
i'm I'm rooting for Agony. i i haven't It's not that I haven't played Agony out of like a lack of enthusiasm for the card or the concept. I just haven't gotten around to it. A lot of cards. I still like all the old ones too. She's cool. I just don't think... like It's a fun little ability to have, but it's like, I even compared to like an America Shavas now, which is, she's a one-four, right? Isn't she a one-two plus two? yeah And Agony is just a one-two. Just a one-two. And it's hard to capitalize on that extra two, right? Like a Deadpool can do it, because it's doubling it. Or a Scarlet Spider can, because it's doubling it. But like, Baruch doesn't get to use it.
00:15:04
Speaker
I may be brewed with Grandmaster, but that just seems like that seems like a lot of work. um I mean, I do I do Grandmaster a lot of brutes. That is like a thing that I need. agony No, I don't think I don't think that that's how that works in that deck or in one of those decks, because I've done it in multiples. But ah yeah, man, America Chavez really does seem to eat Agony's lunch for many intents and purposes, ah and in my opinion.
00:15:35
Speaker
as As an observer, having not currently dirtied my hands with ah agony yet. Just the unpredictability of the next card. like like Having a card that they don't know is going to be bigger than it's supposed to be is like better than announcing that you're about to play a card that's bigger than it's supposed to be in this particular location. I don't know.
00:15:59
Speaker
You can delay it a little bit though, right? Like I was going to say, she has more control than Hulkbuster and more than America Chavez. There's pros and cons to that. So you can keep playing in another location and then eventually play on agony. But it's just like, but if the juice isn't worth the squeeze though. It's like, what are you going to do with two extra power? Yeah. I mean, it's not nothing. Yeah, but I don't know. Yeah, I think most decks would rather play a one for America Chavez.
00:16:29
Speaker
Yeah, if like given the choice just between those two All right, we can move on to talk about toxin Like come on that's all I can hear you guys saying it's like yeah agony and it's like our ages Let's go ahead and talk about toxin. We're just stretching out the agony ah Toxin is to one on reveal return your other cards here to your hand plus to power for each return Take it away Ben All right, so I've been enjoying Toxin. As I mentioned last week, I'm not a huge bounce player in Marvel Snap. i you know I have bounced things in other card games. Frankly, it feels better elsewhere, is my opinion. But I don't know. I've i've dabbled in bounce from time to time. So I sort of i threw myself at it ah yesterday. We record on Wednesdays. So yesterday was release day for Toxin.
00:17:27
Speaker
And I first tried with all three bounce enablers. um And then that wasn't working like super great. Also, you know, I'm always talking about how I have to have like some point of disagreement with the conventional wisdom. So like at first I was trying bounce without Mysterio in it. and ah Oh no! I i think...
00:17:52
Speaker
From my experience, it turns out it was a little better with Mysterio in it. um oh that That is no longer the the point I am trying to dispute. Mysterio is in all the all the new versions.
00:18:04
Speaker
so my I had to decide which one of the bounce cards I i hate that I i don't approve of, and Falcon. Falcon was the one that had to go. um So I've been playing a list that is The Hood, Silver Sable. Oh yeah, I bought Silver Sable with tokens just for bounce experience. I wasn't going to do bad. Yeah. like the i I try to do things right when I do things, so I needed Silver s Sable, it's true. But Silver Sable, Niko Minoru. And now here's, I've been testing two different versions of this deck. One has Rocket Raccoon, who I don't like, and I'm rooting against. I'm rooting against Rocket Raccoon. I prefer this version that I'm about to list here instead that has US Agent.
00:18:54
Speaker
So no Rocket Raccoon in this one. Toxin, Grandmaster, US Agent, Agent Venom. So many agents. I didn't even realize until now. um All the agents. Mysterio, Sage, Bishop, Hit Monkey, Beast. And that's been working pretty well for me. Positive on the SP, although I have, i you know, ah things things do get a little easier once you've tanked your SP. It's true.
00:19:20
Speaker
um ah The meta hardens back up is as you climb back to where, yeah. Y'all get what I'm saying. Point is, absolutely Toxin is a very fun card. Also, Grandmaster, very fun in bounce. I don't know if everyone else is doing this yet. I'm doing this and I'm loving it. Grandmaster in bounce.
00:19:42
Speaker
it's everywhere iron master is the card right now I've done it before, but I have not been doing it with toxin, and it seems great for both toxin and beast.
00:19:55
Speaker
toxon and beast ye either one super great also you know If all you do is Grandmaster, Silver, Sable, or the Hood, that's not the end of the world, folks. True. um As always, if you're playing Grandmaster and Agent Venom in the same deck, try to play Agent Venom in the middle, if you can, so that you don't muddy up your Grandmaster slots.
00:20:15
Speaker
and um yeah just ah I've been having a lot of fun with that deck, and I recommend giving it a shot if you like that sort of thing. Sage is such a beast. Our experiences are so different, but ah want I want Reed to go first. ah Oh, you want me? I probably have the least interesting. That's fine. ah Okay, wait. Did you have more to say about Sage? You said she's such a beast. Oh, she's such a beast. Is she closing for you? Like she's a final turn card? ah Sometimes. Are you balancing her?
00:20:50
Speaker
Sometimes I bounce, sometimes I clone with Nico, sometimes I ah play on turn five and then Grandmaster her on six for a surprise. um There's just a lot of stuff you could do with Sage, real good card. Okay, I dig the flexibility of like playing her on five and six versus monkey that's harder to do with because you want to play a lot of things with him.
00:21:16
Speaker
Yeah, I have to say, Hit Monkey is not as good a card as Sage, in my opinion. I'm still playing Hit Monkey in this deck, but I'm like... And bounce, I disagree. Okay. I saved with a tech girl.
00:21:33
Speaker
yeah okay
00:21:36
Speaker
Sorry, I mean based on the mechanics of the game, Sage. Based on the animations and sound effects, I have to give it to Hit Monkey. Just saying. I do like my Hit Monkey variant. I'm rocking the 3M. Oh, I love the Ivan Chavrin. Oh, you have the 3M? I'm so jealous. I wanted that. ah ah That I would be jealous of a Ben variant? What does the world come to?
00:22:07
Speaker
oh You know, they they do throw them at me sometimes. I can't say no. I'm such a bully sometimes. Okay, so I didn't pick up toxin because I've got a couple two-card weeks coming up. One, we'll be talking about soon with next week's cards, so i can't I can't spin the keys. and um But I did get to do something that I um never get to do anymore. And I have done and watched Unfit Parrot play a little bit with Toxen, who is also playing Bounce into a lot of Cosmo, let me tell you.
00:22:47
Speaker
cosmo and problem um Okay, first I do have to admit, and I'm so mean, so I don't mean to be, but like I did immediately bully him that, like okay, because I know we're talking about toxin, but i could not I could not take my eyes off of his silver sable.
00:23:05
Speaker
One, he had the last spotlight vacant, so it's already a pretty card, but like, aw, she was like a 0-8 in his hand once, and I don't have any. She doesn't mind. I did just get 6,000 tokens, and Ben just bought her, and I'm like, no, wait, what if they put her with Ajax and the spotlight, and you can grab three new cards in a week, you know? And I'm trying to hold off. I feel like that would be months from now.
00:23:30
Speaker
You're right, maybe I should just get her. She looks so good. But he had her in this hideous green border, and I immediately bullied him into like a three-year-old boy. I don't want to talk about what border my Silver Sable has. Oh my gosh.
00:23:45
Speaker
I was like, but she was doing all this work for him. Look at her, just over and over again, coming out with her, her boss energy, like, right? I'm pretty sure there were like two cosmos out on the board and she was like a zero eight in his hand. And I'm just like, oh, I I can't deny my heart has greatly decided this.
00:24:08
Speaker
um Okay, but we are talking about toxin. Anyway, and yes, I'm really sorry. It was so bad of me. And then the rest of the stream, I'm like, do not mention the hideous creamboard and the black swan. Don't bring it up.
00:24:23
Speaker
It's like, it's so rude because it's like how I think everyone, like I certainly have my opinions on hairstyles and stuff, but I think everyone should do what makes them happy. And, and, and if, and if surrounding you lovely, beautiful, so disabled, the hideous, important things you try, that's what I want for you. Uh, okay. Anyway, I'm just the worst sometimes is all, but, uh,
00:24:49
Speaker
Yeah, Taksin seemed good. He often seemed good. And Phim here was having a good time with him. That's been my experience with Taksin. All right, my experience with toxin, let's say first, I also got silver sable. I actually got her like maybe a week ago, but I have been using her ton and bounce and loving her there. I don't think she's absolutely necessary. Like I think an Iceman or a Hawkeye would would do okay, but she's definitely like she feels like she's best in slot, not by a huge margin, but like it's it's ah clear.
00:25:26
Speaker
um I also started with all three bouncers. um I've had a great experience with it. I thought that I would be cutting Falcon. um In fact, I have had a newfound appreciation for Falcon this week. I think it's really cool in reaching to other locations, ah say where a Cosmo is. I've had or like just clogged, not that I've seen a ton of clog, but a little bit. And I've had good luck with that. um Being able to use Falcon for retrieval.
00:25:54
Speaker
i I wanted to see more of toxin and junk, to be honest. I want to see people use it to pick up the void and stuff, you know? Yeah. A good way to convert it into power, for sure. um Also a lot cheaper than, say, a Valkyrie. right And a little cheaper than a Viper. But it's kind of the same thing as ah Cousin Carnage.
00:26:23
Speaker
Like, if you're just eating boys. It's true, and carnage doesn't take up space in your hair. Carnage comes out one bigger. Just one deck building option, so if you wanted to put bigger cards in your deck, you know, now you have another lower cost option. Maybe you pair it with Carnage as your two, you know, backups, and then out you have... Yum, yum, yum. I've seen quite a few people trying to run with Black Swan 2, and I did try that. For me, it felt heavy-handed. Yeah, it feels like Overkill, I also tried that.
00:26:53
Speaker
I used her maybe like twice and and I ran it for I don't know 30 minutes an hour or something like that and it's just like she's not pulling her weight at all. I am not convinced the black swan is a good card.
00:27:09
Speaker
started with the I started with a deck from Scott Denham previously mentioned um over at Snap.gov, and I started with one of his decks. I cut Sage for the Black Swan to experiment with that, and then I joked ah in like a chat with friends, I was like, um maybe I should put Wasp in so that I can do more of my ah double bouncing, bouncing the bouncers, you know, give toxin some more value. But I have loved Wasp in this deck. And I'll read it off in just a second. But Wasp goes with Agent Venom. yeah Who doesn't want to play the zero four? She goes with toxin. I get an extra two power if like on the turn I play toxin. She goes with Bishop.
00:27:47
Speaker
a So, and she goes with Hit Monkey. So she has um she's pulling her weight in this deck. And she's a great target for Nikko Destroy spell. So, here we go, if I don't have Hood. This is the deck. Again, this is 11 cards are from Scott, but I threw in the Wasp and I think she's actually amazing here. Wasp, Hood. Oh, go ahead. and Oh, I should say that's what is exciting. You're like, she does this. I'm like, that is Wasp. Yes. Wasp was on my chest, but I just haven't gotten around to it yet. So i'm and now that now that i now that I've heard good things, I want to go. I accidentally paused the recording instead of muting myself. My mouse was in the wrong place.
00:28:32
Speaker
um So here's the deck. It's Wasp, Hood, Rocket Raccoon, which you said you weren't a fan of, but I am getting Rocket to 9 power or more regularly. Silver Sable, also getting huge. Nikko, gotta say a special shout out to hitting Nikko with Agent Venom and then using her double spell. That's a big Nikko.
00:28:56
Speaker
ah toxin Falcon, Agent Venom, Mysterio, of course, Bishop, Hit Monkey and Beast. Bishop is why I felt comfortable cutting Sage because Bishop gets huge. I'm getting bishops to 14 plus power fairly regularly. um Again, something that Wasp is helping with ah being able to it's like an extra play and then I bounce her and she's an extra play again and just um I've got to say, Ben, I did get to bounce the bouncer several times. Mostly that's happening when there's a friendly location, like say an Elysium. But I have done it when when like the stars align. It's like on turn two, I can drop down Wasp and Toxin.
00:29:42
Speaker
And then I beast the toxin and then I toxin the beast and it's ae It's fun. I like it a lot. It's definitely not the primary play line. Like it's it's a stretch You don't get to do it very often and maybe your opponent plays limbo. So you get a stretch things out just a little bit um but gosh, I'm just I saw safety describe toxin as boring and I think it is boring card in the sense that like It's a balance enabler. It does the beast thing, except instead of reducing cost, it gets power, which is actually a more boring ability than beast's ability. But the deck building part of it, the playing the deck, I'm finding that very fun. Just the way that it opens up, having another another enabler. i I love this card.
00:30:32
Speaker
That's my take on toxin. Get him. If you like bounce at all. yeah fun card Next week's spotlight, ah the the finale for symbiote season, anti-venom, a 4-6. That's a weird card. On reveal, set the cost and power of your deck's top card to zero.
00:30:53
Speaker
Thoughts? Well. My thought is I need to skip something so that I have resources. And ah this is going to be the skip for this month, I think. Yeah. I kind of thought toxin might be the skip, but I couldn't resist. So I mean, are you getting in? I don't. Yeah. Are you getting in? laura I don't know. I'm very tempted. yeah I don't get him. I have like.
00:31:27
Speaker
I don't understand what what the point is. um And I don't play high-cost cards, which seems like the best way to use him, right? I don't play a ton of high-cost cards anyway. But hey, I don't know, maybe he does go into like a Valkyrie Cersei deck, something like that. I can see that working great. Maybe a Sentry's in there. Any of those, for just a two-card combo between two of those, right, is pretty cool. um Maybe not Valkyrie and Cersei together. but um
00:31:58
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not skipping the card because I think it doesn't have uses. I just don't like this kind of card. This is not for me. I won't lie. Okay, so I'm already getting him because I don't have Supergiant. It's a two card. This is what I've been saying. Oh, shoot. I also don't have Supergiant. I forgot. Maybe I do have to open this week. And listening to hate is bringing this like Emperor Hulkling. I need it.
00:32:28
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I don't know what I'll do with him, but now I want him. and
00:32:42
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um i just you know i just i just ah I'm still working on it. you know um i I just said Valkyrie. I don't know why I didn't think about this before, but Valkyrie fixes the zero power problem.
00:33:00
Speaker
Yeah, I thought yeah i thought you and i thought you'd already i thought that's what you were saying. So um if he's a Valkyrie friend, maybe maybe I am kidding him. I don't know. ah I'm going to um commit right here and now that I'm going to build a deck with him before buying him because I'm an impulsive person.
00:33:20
Speaker
And I can see this card either being something fun or something that I'm like, why did I buy that? I built one deck and I think it's dumb. I tried really hard to listen to people's responses, at least for a few hours.
00:33:35
Speaker
or reactions? I think where I want to start, and I don't even think this is like the best thing to do with him by any means, but it's like he does actually make me want to play Howard the Duck, which very few things do, as much as I love a detective and a duck both.
00:33:51
Speaker
detective and um a duck detective so perfect okay um so and that makes me want to put them in like some spectrum you know some spectrum long bullshit um with howard the duck so like that's just kind of where i feel like i want to start um there's probably that that lets you play luke cage also like in a more natural way Right? So it's just like, that's where I just want all those ongoing, you know, play some Mobius, ruin someone's Revona or Sarah, play some Cosmo, ruin some, ruin some tax on players' days. That's, that's... That deck is... but You do want to have like a lot of expensive cards so that, uh, Anti-Venom gets value.
00:34:44
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That's what I'm thinking, like that deck tends to be pretty low power. But hey, that's why that's why Howard is there to make sure that you hit claw or spectrum.
00:34:54
Speaker
Right. we And we have cage. Yeah, we could put it could be maybe it's like an onslaught spectrum kind of deck. You know, we just thought got all the let's just let's stack up some. ah I like that kind of green. I'm excited about playing a zero zero onslaught potentially. Yeah.
00:35:13
Speaker
But we got Luke Cage, so he'd be excited. Yeah, and I mean, a 0.7 onslaught would be better, sure. But I mean, if Luke doesn't show up, I might still get excited about it. Right? And look, ongoing's got those fun things, like it was saying Omega Red and stuff that you don't- Oh yeah, I love Omega Red. Unless you're playing Spectrum, you don't often see them. so I was having a lot of fun with Omega Red and high voltage.
00:35:36
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but Fine. Yeah, think I think if you're running Howard, it's a cool different Howard deck. You know, now you get anti venom, iron lad and Jubilee. Maybe that's the critical mass needed to justify it. I don't know. ah They're all forecasts, though, which like to be the time makes it hard. Right. Like this card.
00:35:59
Speaker
Oh, you know what? Just a little, a little, uh, a little cat in there. Yeah. Oh yeah. He's a Zabu friend. say I love that cat much thought that that, that alone might tempt you guys. Although like, man, that deck just really doesn't want to run into Mobius, huh?
00:36:24
Speaker
You know, like if the plan is to Zabu into anti-venom, like, wow, you're just, everything is getting wrecked by Mobius, but nobody's playing Mobius right now, so. That's all you gotta put in a row. Mobius is gonna be everywhere for like, four, five days. Mobius will be playing. Yeah. Dang Mobius, oh, dang. You gotta like echo, yeah, put in all the, put in all the cards.
00:36:50
Speaker
Just evaluate him based on the game three. Don't play against Mobius and be like, this is where he's going to be in four weeks.
00:36:58
Speaker
I'm excited to get, um, I'm sorry. Anymore. and No, we can go on to the friends. Well, I mean, yeah, I, I guess. Is there much more to say about anti-venom? What do we think everyone else is going to be doing with anti-venom?
00:37:16
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i
00:37:19
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Iron Man. I don't. Yeah, I was going to say like Iron Man, Arnim, Yolo. No, no, it was a good one. But kind of everything else in this story is not great.
00:37:36
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You want a 0-0 Venom or... I don't know. Well, Zola and Venom and Null, those are all solid hits for anti-Venom because a 0-0 Venom is cool. That's true. I mean, and it there are a lot of things in Destroy. I think it was Sammy who pointed it out that like there is a... I don't know.
00:38:01
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There are more good hits in Destroy than in other archives. I guess a lot of it were anti a lot of the Destroy cards care more about being enablers. Like, care more about what they do than about their raw power. Death would be a big exception. Maybe that's a thing. Maybe you don't run death in that deck. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, the friends are Ghost Spider and Supergiant.
00:38:30
Speaker
Okay. One of those cards I love. I'm a spider fan. I think it's ridiculous that she's not series three by now. Pretty, pretty basic effect. I think everyone should have access to, especially since that card's been out for forever. Um, it was, it was in my first, uh, infinity conquest winning deck back when it was two, three.
00:38:55
Speaker
um Ghost Spider's great. If you don't have Ghost Spider, that's wild and I feel bad for you. I agree. I feel like she's like essential. Yeah. And a move decks, like Phoenix Force, Hercules, Balance Tort, you know. Somewhat silly decks, but also like occasionally just the surprise crit. Like back in the day, I feel like sometimes people were putting her in Shuri red skull decks.
00:39:25
Speaker
to whisk the you know to protect the charade card from a Shang. So those kind of shenanigans. um She works with the combos like that, you know as well, outside of the move. so yeah and And in 1-2, it's the perfect cost for her. She's great. Yeah, I agree. She doesn't get used enough for non-move things, but she's essential in move. Supergiant, I love this card, and apparently both of you are missing it.
00:39:53
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um But it's like a really weird, ah hate it's a really weird tech card to run. Like, I don't think you run it offensively very often. Defensively? That's what I'm trying to say. I don't think you run it defensively very often, unless you can also run it offensively. There are cards that really like, you know, Cersei and Valkyrie are two of my favorites that go very well with Supergiant.
00:40:18
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um You can really, I'm assuming this is why Ben hates the card, you can really mess up somebody's like whole thing by stopping their turn five. You know, ah stop a modoc or a Sarah, like you can do a lot of damage that way. ah You can completely ruin some decks. That's part of why I hate the card. Also, I hate the idea of playing the card because it's just like such a such a tempo detour. I'm just like, yeah, I'm trying to go full steam ahead.
00:40:49
Speaker
And Supergiant's like, well, do you want to spend the whole turn playing like bad stats and being no fun? I mean, maybe you'll screw over your opponent. Maybe you wouldn't. I don't know. These are the reasons why I have not sought out Supergiant until now. And man, it would be wild to skip a card a two-card week. I don't think so. If you're not going to use her, is it really a two-card week?
00:41:16
Speaker
I mean, I don't know. I'm only missing like three or four cards right now. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Supergiant, if you have cool Supergiant ideas, you should probably get the card and do them. i i I'm rooting for you. I just, I'm philosophically not into this card. there Okay, no, I'm so interested by this card, like, and probably for all the same reasons, but any other way, because when I come across the Supergiant, I'm like, oh, Supergiant, because I don't really see it a lot, first of all. And then second, it's like, most of the time I'm annoyed. Most of the time it's ruining, I wanted to discard a card this turn, I wanted to do this, and it's wrecked, and it won't be as helpful at the end of the game.
00:42:00
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um And there's a very few times where I'm like, oh, like, the stupidest, you have only made me stronger by trying to strike me down. And, um and that asymmetry intrigues me in the deck building of where most often you will be helping yourself Well, hurting someone a way they're not used to seeing, right? Like, you just don't see it enough, and those are counters that I love. um Right now, I still think red guarding is the best all-around counter, which, it's surprisingly, you don't see as much as you would think, but Supergiant intrigues me, yeah. I mean, I don't even know what I want to do with it yet, but I want- Let me give you- I refrigeration. Can I-
00:42:46
Speaker
propose one surprising idea or rather it's surprising that I had an idea about what I would like to do with Supergiant. I don't know. I don't know, guys. um Let's say Hope on three, Supergiant on four. And I got this idea from playing against Supergiant because you make the best of it and stuff. And I'm like, hey, what if I did this on purpose?
00:43:07
Speaker
um like My favorite thing to play when I've been super gianted against is Silver Surfer because, you know, it's a great thing to have go off at the end of the game. And, you know, that's a sweet little guarantee there. So like, what if Hope On 3, Supergiant On 4, your own Silver Surfer and some other three cost and your opponent doesn't even know that you're playing Silver Surfer yet? That's that's my thought. I like those. Those are very Ben thoughts.
00:43:37
Speaker
um I was going to suggest, just to give you guys a little inspiration, ah Grandmaster and Absorbing Man. I know Mystique's less in your wheelhouse than those two, but those three, sequenced after Supergiant, are really cool. You could do your Absman on five, and then on six, you could play something in Surfer. Still available to Elias, which is the invis woman. I used to love invis woman, and now I just fear Elias is the bad woman.
00:44:07
Speaker
That's one way to use Supergiant offensively, is if you're running Olya. So this is my other thought with Supergiant, is whatever Prio is on the end of that turn, it's locked in. like If you play her on four, the Prio on five is for sure the Prio on six, unless you have a card like nebula that can build power in between. like For the most part, you've locked in Prio, and you can make decisions based on that. You don't have to worry about how what they do on five affects your Prio.
00:44:38
Speaker
Just you're so right you're enough to make sure that you have prio there on for and as I was just whining about Supergiant is not exactly winning the tempo race. yes That's the hard part is you have to put out a lot of power in the first three turns if your goal is to lock in prio in your favor.
00:44:56
Speaker
Or even to like, yeah, okay. Fair enough, but I feel like that has been part of the problem. When I run into Supergiant, it's just problems I'm not used to having. A counter I wasn't expecting, you know, where I thought I could do stuff. So, yeah. All right, cool. I think, honestly, it was Surfer was like one of the few times where I was playing Supergiant. I'm like, oh, you know what I mean? Oh, thank you for letting me like throw down my Surfer on this turn. It's the best move I can make with this.
00:45:25
Speaker
energy. So yeah, it's an interesting card to me. But I get that I get the tempo problem that Ben said. I feel like she is very polarizing like most of the often your turn five just gets ruined and you're like, you ruined my setup turn like my big finishes like and that's terrible. But then there's the other time where where you're ready for the for the sneaky play and that you can take advantage with a finishing card played early and Anyway, I haven't cooked with her nearly enough for how interesting she is, um but I did have a deck that I really liked that used both Valkyrie and Sursery. And it would, either one of them would be the super giant follow-up. And then I could play on six knowing that whatever I'm playing there is getting hit by Valkyrie Sursery. Anyway. That's pretty crafty. Yeah. um Very fun. You could then play your sentry on turn six. It's great. On to the side quests, on to Secret Homework.
00:46:23
Speaker
This week's secret homework was assigned by Ree. I will pass it off to you in just a second, Ree, but I want to do so with the reminder to let the listeners know about the extra credit that was assigned off episode.
00:46:39
Speaker
Um, it was, yeah, I was going to mention this that I had forgotten to mention on the podcast. It was particularly supposed to be a spooky location, you know, just because location's kind of generic.
00:46:50
Speaker
And I just did a bad job translating. My friend of the podcast suggestion. um So we made it just extra credit because I did kind of maybe just mention it either yesterday or earlier today. But I did make mine a spooky location.
00:47:12
Speaker
I had to double check and like surely this is already a location even though I couldn't think of it but I went with um and I'm thinking honestly I was thinking about ah if you've seen the Disney plus the Marvel werewolf by night show.
00:47:30
Speaker
um Special, yeah, that was so good. I loved it. It's like a faux schlocky. You prefer the colorized or black and white version? I didn't watch the colorized one. I think I've only seen the original. Yeah. And I love that the black and white version is not 100% black and white without getting into spoilers. And that's great. The black and white looks amazing, but then also the limited use of color is awesome. That would be the one I recommend having not seen both.
00:48:03
Speaker
I have no particular preference. I think I've seen them both once and enjoyed it both times. It's made to feel like a retro cheap horror in like black and white, but it's not at all. And it's actually very like visually pretty and interesting. And it's just this very like stylistic out there kind of story of werewolf. I was so hoping it would lead into something more TV or a movie or something. I mean, just like haven't been in that universe more and I want more of it. I want more Elsa and man thing and werewolf. So fun.
00:48:36
Speaker
Yeah. That's good. Yeah, so we recommend that. We can look in the show notes or whatever. So I went with Bloodstone Manor for my location. Love it.
00:48:48
Speaker
And I honestly was trying to match it to Elsa, but it felt bad because, like, Elsa's just not doing well these days. And it's like, that's fair. Heroes always have their down and out moments. You know what I mean? She's just one OTA away from maybe being playable again one day.
00:49:08
Speaker
But, so I went the other way. I leaned into werewolf by night as kind of a related card when I was thinking about it. I've decided the ability would be if you played an on reveal card here last turn and gained one energy this turn.
00:49:22
Speaker
So um you have not just play a card there, but an unrevealed card. And then you can get an energy next turn. Maybe there's a better way to read that. But mostly, I really love playing werewolf. To be honest, that was actually the toxin unfit parrot deck I was watching. He made a werewolf bounce deck. And I'm like, ah this is the most tempted I've been, maybe, to play bounce because I am. Werewolf is really fun because you get to have the explosive final turn.
00:49:54
Speaker
I didn't mention it, but that was one of the toxin things I tried that did not work super well. I was like, when I was when i was trying not to play Mysterio, I was like, this will work great with werewolf, extra room to move around, no Mysterios, didn't work out that well. But anyway, I'm sorry for detouring. No, no, absolutely. it's um See, so that's what's fun to...
00:50:15
Speaker
He's fun, so I i wanted a werewolf friend, and um that was my location. And next, um we go to Ben, um because we're missing homework later. Well, when I found out off the air that extra credit was spookiness, my first thought was um Bloodstone Manor, obviously.
00:50:42
Speaker
But I was like, I don't know. I feel like somebody else is going to pick that. I went a different direction. I was like, what's spooky? What's spooky? What's spooky? I don't know. I mostly, I mostly fuck with X-Men and Spider-Man stuff. And you know what?
00:51:03
Speaker
Things aren't that spooky and I mean like they think I mean These are just characters spooky things can happen to them or around them So I was like what spooky that I know about what spooky that I know about what's a little dark. What's a little? ah um wheres where Where's a dangerous place that like you don't want to get caught on a under spooky circumstances and I'm like Maybe maybe those more lock tunnels, huh?
00:51:32
Speaker
Maybe the Morlock tunnels. So that's what I did. Because Morlocks will fuck you up. They'll they'll cut you you. You bring your pretty face down there. um So Morlock tunnels or the alley if you prefer. ah that's That's the main.
00:51:49
Speaker
tunnel thing um but anyway after each turn if there are any four five or six cost cards here destroy them see the big house that's some half measure stuff just not letting them in no the more lock tunnels you you you bring your your high status presentable, like, golden boy face down here. you You're in trouble, you know? ah So big cards. those are the Those are the beautiful mutants, I guess, that that aren't allowed. That's such a bad location. I don't know.
00:52:25
Speaker
I don't know. in X-Men 97, Magneto is ah very fond of the Morlocks and he feels real bad that he's unable to save them and stuff. And that's like kind of a big deal for him. So I wanted there to be like a little tiny like Magneto can yank over a forecast card into the Morlock tunnels and, you know, killify them.
00:52:53
Speaker
at the end of turn. So like I thought that would be like a fun little edge case thing. And it was four, five or six. Right. So like also Magneto would go. Or you could just drop your own Nimrod in there if you wanted to. You know, like I wanted to play more. I wanted it to be interesting, but also a little bit brutal. I love it. That gives like a Stegron Juggernaut arrow.
00:53:22
Speaker
Yeah, it is definitely a move location of sorts. But it could also be a destroy location or just a, you know, I love the locations that let you improvise, you know?
00:53:41
Speaker
The Scream decks have been very annoying as I've been trying to play my Scorn deck. like Or actually, no, it was with playing my playing agony. When you're trying to get your Wolverine and X-23 Deadpool set up and they're like polarizing you and juggernauting and you're like, let me destroy my cards. Anyway, I'm very annoyed at Scream right now is all I'm saying.
00:54:07
Speaker
um But yeah, it's a great location that would work for the screen. Also, I forgot, we've we've already established that the Morlocks are not down with the big expensive cards because Leech has... like I'm working in the established language the mechanical language of the Morlocks, they don't like high-cost things. Yes, Leech would die. there There is, you know...
00:54:33
Speaker
these these These gameplay metaphors are not flawless and you know perfectly consistent. In the comics, I think this is actually in the NYX comic um that's got Ms. Marvel and X-23 in it, but like the Morlocks recently like marched out of their tunnels to be like, we're done with like hiding and stuff. like We're in guitars. And I honestly was it. I was kind of like, who? Because I'm just getting into the X-Men. They had this whole speech. And I was just like, do you guys? I don't know about Callisto and Feeler and Mask. So, yeah, no, I guess now they're like coming out and, you know, like, no, we're done, you know, reclaiming our pride. And I'm like, cool, I'm glad.
00:55:28
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to hear about you.
00:55:32
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ah Anyway, so yeah, Ben, I like how all of your your stuff is is very comic relevant, like unintentionally. I feel like I don't like- I don't think of myself as being like the number one lore kid or anything. I just, i you know, I like things that make sense and I i do and do like some Marvel intellectual property stuff. I have a long history with the brand. i Yeah, i don't I don't think of myself as like being the lore heavy kind of person, but I don't know. um i'm glad I'm glad you're appreciating it. I would not claim expertise.
00:56:12
Speaker
Okay. um Lauren, did you also pick Bloodstone Manor first? I did not. In fact, it did not even come up ah when I was trying to research spooky locations. So maybe I researched poorly. um My first thought was actually Transylvania and my and I was like, that's gotta be in a marvel, right? Like Dracula is here. I bet Transylvania is. um But what I ended up going with is is New Salem.
00:56:40
Speaker
Oh, yes, it is. Transylvania is in Marvel. um I don't know how present it is, but it's there. um I went with New Salem, which is a hidden mystical city in Colorado. I have no idea how present it is in the comics, um but it's home to magical ah magical creatures, witches, warlocks, wizards, and you have to have magic to get there. And so it it kind of repels people. And so the ability is ah after you play a card here, it moves to another location. Kind of a Luke's bar.
00:57:11
Speaker
Or like a reverse asteroid and also kind of a kind of an ant ma i an aunt maze but it happens with every single card you play and so if you need to put stuff there you have to play something like a brood or Fill up both of the other locations in order for something to stick and I thought that that and that had enough like variety that there were that could take advantage of it and and I ways that you could intentionally play to make it, um, I don't know. Like, I really think Luke's Bar isn't interested. I must heard it at first. Okay. Do you need me to say it again? I thought the location itself moved. Oh, no, that would be... Like Brigadier Sum every turn. That would be insane. Crazy Quake stuff. That's another very good idea. I like that a lot. Swaps with another location. also like
00:57:59
Speaker
I like what you ended up with, Lauren. Yeah. So it repels. your Your misinterpretation is also very good. And of course course, it would be very strong for move, right? Like a a your torches and vultures and stuff going there would be great. But I don't know, like.
00:58:15
Speaker
I need to play more silk, so I gotta get on this train. You don't need to play more silk right now. I think you need to wait for the silk buff to play more silk. That's what I think. But that's the card I want to play. I'll play Craven and stuff, and I'll be like, you don't bring me joy. Part of it, I think Luke's Bar is actually a really interesting location. And there are some things that can play there interestingly, like ah like a hood. or yeah like There's stuff you can do there.
00:58:44
Speaker
The grapple arrow? Oh, that's so fun. Yeah, I like Luke's Bar a lot. I think I tend to... Card Gen does... You can play Surfer three times or whatever. You probably don't do that. You probably use Brood there.
00:58:56
Speaker
um um Something that that you can stay on Luke's Bar if you fill up the hand. So if you have Card Gen, you can force a card to stay there, which is super cool. but like Not very many decks can take care of it or can take advantage of that, so I wanted to kind of capture some of that. um Anyway, I think it would be a great location. i yeah I would play with all of these locations that that you have a choice when they're in the kitchen. Yeah, me too, for sure.
00:59:32
Speaker
Okay, hire us. Second dinner? i'm So it's my turn to assign the homework. um and I'm to assign the homework. ah It's going to sound very familiar because the homework is to design a spooky card. um This is actually what I was going to do for my previous assignment, but then I was like, hmm, but next but like my next time is going to be very close to Halloween.
01:00:00
Speaker
so ah Yes, design a spooky card the extra credit or the goal is for the mechanic to be spooky to not just not just theme But to like really tie it in okay make it something interesting mechanically I don't know that you can do it without any theme at all, but I don't just want it to be like ah o a Vampire who does something that is entirely unrelated to being a vampire right like Dracula's a little spooky like he's draining the power from another creature right um
01:00:32
Speaker
yeah It's not spooky spooky, but it's like, it's very interpretive. I don't know what's mechanically spooky, I gotta say. Really struggling with this. Just tight tie it in with the theme, right? Like have something that is, it's not just, what am I trying to say? It's not just the paint that's spooky, but actually like,
01:00:51
Speaker
um Try to come up with an ability that is inspired by his spookiness. Say, if you had a tunnel where Morlock's murdered people, that might be a little spooky. Make it a mean cut instead of a nice cut. I thought I should point out, the thing I said earlier about Magneto, you are also sacrificing your own Magneto to do that play that I pointed out. That's what I was saying.
01:01:15
Speaker
That's cool. It is cool, but I just wanted to like make sure that like people understand that like I'm not saying your Magneto is somehow magically immune on that location. You have Caira, so it's fine. I'm sure i guess I guess in these hypothetical situations we always have Caira. Okay. We always do it later.
01:01:38
Speaker
I would like ah as I assign that this homework, I would like to open up a discussion about the assignee pre doing the homework. In a sense, which you two have both done the last week, where read gave us a location last week, and Ben gave us a limerick the previous week. So I have a spooky card ready if you want an example.
01:01:59
Speaker
Oh, nice. I would love that. But I also don't know that I would like less work for me. I don't know that we want to set the precedent that we always are doing the homework twice um if you're the assignee. So maybe this just like sometimes you got to. OK. Mine was a listener suggestion. I didn't come up with the last one.
01:02:21
Speaker
Oh, oh no that's good I didn't know that. I knew the challenge was a guess I yeah guess I'm the only one making an extra work for myself. But you can't keep the score in the game. Okay. All right, fine. I would love to different things are a bother to different people. I would love to come up with a second spooky card. So this is my first spooky card. 34 brood queen. At the end of the game, your cards with zero or less power become broodlings.
01:02:53
Speaker
because they are kind of like the alien aliens where they like lay eggs inside of things and the host dies and turns into a brood. um So I want an animation where they're not just like unburrowing from the ground, but they're like bursting out of, I don't know if it's that violent in the comics, but where where they the creature is dying with a splash, kind of like how a misery's animation works when she destroys something.
01:03:21
Speaker
that's No, I you like it. I dig it. It's kind of like an Ultron-y type card, but for different, you know, a way to get different. Yeah. You play it with Supergiant and Surfer. She already does at the end of the game stuff. um But yeah, I originally wanted to just to be wanted it to be or my first design was the lowest power card on your side of the board turns into a broodling, which I'm like, but it's like, okay, so it stops a hobgoblin or it stops a void, but like there are better ways to do that if that's your goal. um So I decided to go with something a little more explosive. I think she'd probably go in in an Annihilus deck. Yeah. Okay. Pretty cool. I'll be excited when every ah junk deck doesn't have to run Annihilus though. I don't like when
01:04:15
Speaker
I mean, I guess surfer finds surfer decks, but like, you know, he's still a little junk. Okay. Yeah. He's just, he was such a jump forward for that archetype, right? Like, I know he made it way better for the meta, but it's less interesting.
01:04:36
Speaker
i i There is just like kind of that one kind. you know like He's so good. They're all Annihilist. He's so good. he's He's archetype defining. And you are just hampering yourself if you're not using him.
01:04:52
Speaker
Right. And also like the difference with surfer is like surfer is one card that lets you try a lot of different things. But like an eyeless is like one card that makes one thing good enough that you should be doing it. And like that's I don't know. That's just much more limited.
01:05:14
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I don't know. the scope The scope is so narrow on Annihilus. Okay, I have a note that I forgot to share. and When we were going into symbiote season, we, like, lamented that, like, this is a really not a very spooky season. Why didn't they do that? So that's the bar. The bar is to be spookier than the symbiotes.
01:05:32
Speaker
Oh, OK. We can do that. All right. Not too hard. It doesn't need to be like, you know, make the game, Emory. Everything is relative. Just be spookier than what they did this season. I think what they did the previous season was, or the previous October, was awesome with the werewolf and Nico. That was like one of my all time favorite seasons. It was a fantastic season. That was such a good season. It was great thematically, and it was so fun. Man thing, werewolf by night, Nico Minoru. To Costelsa.
01:06:01
Speaker
Oh yeah, those were the days. Those were the days. I mean, but dang. I mean, they can't all be winners. ah He's not very spooky. No offense to anyone who enjoys Black Knight. That's just not my cup of tea. Hey, we're gonna... Black Knight is such an anti-venom kind of card. Hi, man. I was like, why don't I like these cards? And I'm like, oh, they're sort of the same. but Okay.
01:06:28
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I see it, yeah. A way to like um cheat out a... You're trying to cheat something. It's just like a combo to get it out. I can see it. No. Don't wanna. Maybe they go in the same deck now. You need Luke Cage. but You need Luke Cage if you're doing a 0-0 on a Jake Nanto or something. Anyway.
01:06:54
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01:07:27
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That's not a free service, I'm guaranteeing, but it happened in this episode, so it could certainly happen again. No, but we like, it's very validating when we see nice comments. Of course. Yeah, we love that. And that sort of thing, we really, we really enjoyed that. So if you would like to... You sent us nice... We're currently doing this for the love of the game, and it's nice to know that the game loves us back. It's, uh, yeah. Right. Very sweet. Absolutely.
01:07:55
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ah We are proudly part of the Snap Judgments Network, where you can find other great shows. ah On rotation, it's Snap Judgments' turn. They're our grand-pod. Both Blazer and Roy are over there putting out episodes on Saturday. um They have great guests.
01:08:13
Speaker
And it's wonderful, but I am going to interrupt this to to point out how can she snap because it is finally my turn to guest on their show. I will be on this week. So check that out. Yeah. That comes out on Sunday. I'm looking forward to it. um Yes, it does. And then just because there's one more show and it would be weird to leave them out, you should also check out Joe's Snap Decisions, the great show, too.
01:08:39
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oh yeah There's a lot of ah breadth between our four shows in like, how casual are we? And how ah how many games do you play during your episode?
01:08:53
Speaker
um Okay. And a lot of us have guested on these other shows, so you you know, they have takes. It's true. i've I've been on all of them. I would be on, yeah, I think i i would I would hopefully be on all of them again this time next year. Yeah. Or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. And maybe, of no promises, but maybe we'll have them on sometime. We're not really a guest show, but hey. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. We don't do guests here. Last week. I thought that was a one time special thing. It was a Splitsmith special.
01:09:23
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It's like a D&D problem. It's like, OK, but the more people we have, the fewer turns it is to me. Yes. But also, I don't want to pressure the host of any other podcast to have me on by this time next year. That was just something I'm putting on my vision board. Don't you concern yourself with that. All of you, please invite Ben and Ree back to your shows. OK. I'm throwing to Ben for the outro. How are we ending this bad boy?
01:09:52
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Well, when the hands get to clapping and the hosts get to snapping, you better tune in next week, because we'll tell you what happened.