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Speaker: Bigger talks, bigger talks.
Speaker: We back again for a phenomenal episode and I'm looking forward to this conversation.
Speaker: I mean, all the things, mental health, spirituality, maybe the law of assumption, Hinduism, grounding, meditation.
Speaker: And I want to invite my next guest,
Speaker: Genity.
Speaker: She's here today.
Speaker: She's a mental health entrepreneur.
Speaker: She's a founder and creative on all platforms, and she's going to discuss some amazing things about herself, how self-discovery turned into entrepreneurship, and how she deals with being authentic, transparent, and healing from the inside out.
Speaker: So welcome to the Vigga Talks podcast.
Speaker: How are you?
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: Thank you so much for having me and what an introduction.
Speaker: I can't wait to be on here and I've listened to a lot of episodes, so I'm really excited.
Speaker: Thank you.
Speaker: Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker: So before we get started, I want to read, I was on your website yesterday and I just want to read three parts and from each part, you just kind of can give me what your synopsis or interpretation of this message.
Speaker: So it goes, I learned from a very young age,
Speaker: that expressing my authentic self in a creative manner would allow me to be the happiest, best version of myself.
Speaker: Can you elaborate on that?
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: I think like, you know, being in a person of color, there's a lot of emphasis on education at a really young age.
Speaker: And I'm thankful that that was the upbringing that I had.
Speaker: But I feel like creativity was not something that it's like,
Speaker: You either pick art and music and all these things, or you pick math and science.
Speaker: It's like, why is it like that?
Speaker: Like math and science is like such a creative field.
Speaker: Like the minds that went into creating the advances that we have in those fields are creative, I would argue.
Speaker: So instead of shying away from that creativity, I kind of wish that we were born in an environment, all of us,
Speaker: to cultivate that.
Speaker: So that's, I think once I started to choose that, I was like, okay, wow, this is where I'm supposed to be.
Speaker: Yeah, and I think it's important for us all to express ourselves in the most authentic way because that's how you open yourself up to receive new downloads, shift your paradigm, and just become your best aligned self.
Speaker: And then you go into, you say, because I don't really, I don't have this information.
Speaker: I didn't grow up this way or this background or culture, but I'm curious, like most Indian kids,
Speaker: I was always told that I would never create a career out of something so intangible.
Speaker: Like, what does that mean to people listening who don't know about the culture?
Speaker: Like, huh?
Speaker: Is that like a thing?
Speaker: Is that like a paradigm that you guys were taught at a young age?
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I think like the intangible aspect of creativity is the fact that it's not like you go to one step and then there's the next step and then there's the next step, right?
Speaker: Like there's not like that clear workflow of where you can end up, right?
Speaker: If you told me like 10 years ago that I'd be here talking to you, like I would not believe you, right?
Speaker: And so I think that that's the intangibility of it where there's not like a thing where I can grasp and be like, okay, this is who I am.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Just being a creative person for me is enough to describe myself as not enough for our culture.
Speaker: And that's just kind of the nature of it.
Speaker: So it sounds like you're going to be one of the leaders and thought leaders of the culture to shift the paradigm on how we should express ourselves, how we should be, and your intangible blessings, which I believe are the most valuable blessings in the universe.
Speaker: Because I always tell people there's a physical realm and there's a spiritual realm.
Speaker: And in the spiritual realm, you have good and bad entities that exist that can control ourselves.
Speaker: or demonize you for better words um into the person you don't want to be and then you finish uh follow up with this last one off you said I always I was always someone who had passion for something that came out of nowhere I had to build upon wild and outstanding ideas to get where I'm at today but like like give me that can you give me a story that relates to out of nowhere like I kind of like that
Speaker: Yeah, I think for me, when I first started getting into creativity and really started to make my magazine and everything, because that's kind of what I'm referencing, I built that whole thing out of literally thin air.
Speaker: It was like an idea that just kind of, like you said, a download that just came into my brain.
Speaker: If I didn't pick it up, somebody else would have.
Speaker: And if I didn't say like, okay, yeah, let's do this mental health magazine and let's talk about spirituality and let's share these stories, somebody else would have come along and pick that up.
Speaker: So I think like in that way, I did kind of create it out of nothing.
Speaker: I had no experience in creating a magazine, no experience in building a business or even sharing my vulnerability online.
Speaker: It was all very new.
Speaker: In that way, it was out of nothing.
Speaker: And I'm glad that it's like now I can at least build on what I've already built over the last few years.
Speaker: But when I first started, I was like, I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I think it's a beautiful transition.
Speaker: Let's unpack and let's talk about the Indian standard.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Did I get that right?
Speaker: You did.
Speaker: You know, Mental Health Magazine, you're the founder.
Speaker: You created that out of nothing.
Speaker: Can you give the listeners and the people who listen and, you know, watching this, what is that and how did, what was the turning point and why was that created out of nothing?
Speaker: Was it something on your spirit?
Speaker: Did something happen?
Speaker: Was there a turning point?
Speaker: Was it out of frustration or anger?
Speaker: Were you overwhelmed?
Speaker: Like, were you having a mental health crisis?
Speaker: Like, how did that even come about?
Speaker: Yeah, so it was, I had a really, really rough time in college.
Speaker: It was like four years of, now I try to think about it fondly because everything happens for a reason, but it was four years of hell for me at the time.
Speaker: And I got diagnosed with depression, I think, but around like 12 years old.
Speaker: So I was really young.
Speaker: And then, you know, leaving college, I'm 22.
Speaker: So it's like 10 years of kind of suffering and not dealing with
Speaker: the that I had, I don't know if I can say that, but the stuff that I had gone through.
Speaker: I had gone through and I was in an abusive relationship and it was just a lot of like really, really low moments.
Speaker: And once, so we, I graduated in 2020, obviously the pandemic hit.
Speaker: And around around like March of like March 12th, I actually remember the day we got kicked out of school.
Speaker: I came home and I now suddenly had all this time.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Because like you just kind of had to finish your finals, wrap up school, graduate, whatever.
Speaker: So I had all this extra time and I was like writing because that was my that was my thing.
Speaker: I would write and I always had this blog called Janet McTayson dot com.
Speaker: And so I was writing away and I was just talking about my abusive relationship and just kind of the stuff that had gone down over the last four years.
Speaker: And I never did this before, but I posted it on my Instagram story.
Speaker: And when I posted it on my Instagram story, all these people were like, oh my God, I had no idea that you were going through this.
Speaker: Like I didn't, I'm me too.
Speaker: Like I felt this way too.
Speaker: And like all these people from like different walks of life throughout, you know, college and everything, they had, they,
Speaker: contributed to some of the atrocities that I had witnessed.
Speaker: And it was interesting to see this other side of them to be like, hey, I struggled too.
Speaker: And this is why I was the way I was.
Speaker: And that opened my mind to me, A, to just kind of hold empathy regardless from now on.
Speaker: B, that I think I have something within me that allows other people to feel vulnerable and allows, like, kind of gives people permission to be vulnerable with me.
Speaker: I think that's just like, I think we all have our own little things that we're good at.
Speaker: And I think that that's one of mine.
Speaker: And so, because I just kind of shared my story and all these people kind of came flooding in.
Speaker: And then I was like, you know, I can start talking about my mental health journey a little bit more.
Speaker: And I started posting about it and talking about it.
Speaker: And then it was June 21st, 2020.
Speaker: And I was like, you know what, I don't want to just share my story.
Speaker: I want to share other people's stories too.
Speaker: And there's no way, like if we want to create vulnerability and create a space online and space in person, that's going to encourage South Asians to care about their mental health.
Speaker: They can't just relate to my story.
Speaker: They've got to relate to the millions of others that are going around.
Speaker: So that's what it
Speaker: birthed the Indian standard was just the fact that I felt like there wasn't a place for us to talk about our mental health journey, for men to talk about their mental health journey.
Speaker: There just wasn't like a place for South Asians in general to feel comfortable.
Speaker: And I wanted to create that.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I think, you know, vulnerability is a superpower, right?
Speaker: It gives you more power than you masking your pain or your trauma or your challenges or your changes.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: So I don't know if you're into numbers.
Speaker: I'm into numbers like numerology.
Speaker: So you said two dates that stood out to me.
Speaker: And then I want to get into, you said South Asian, but I want to get into like, what's the scope of that for that culture and how you guys see mental health and just life in general.
Speaker: So you said March 12th, right?
Speaker: So one, two is three, right?
Speaker: The letter C in the alphabet is the third letter, which is communication, right?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Then you said, I think you said June 21st, right?
Speaker: Two and one is three.
Speaker: So on these days, these are three days where the number three is more like an expressive number, expression, communication, artistry, social life, like a lot of like, you know, actors like Jamie Foxx, Kevin Hart, Rihanna, like they're like threes because they're good at
Speaker: But on top of that, you talked about the culture you came up in, you grew up in that this is not a norm.
Speaker: I think in general, the stigma around mental health, depression, anxiety, suicide, all these things has to change.
Speaker: And I'm a big mental health advocate.
Speaker: I just did a walk with D.D.
Speaker: Hirsch, a
Speaker: mental health services who provide resources for people who are contemplating suicide.
Speaker: And it's such a beautiful thing to go to because it's real.
Speaker: And I think for so long, we've been suppressing the real.
Speaker: And so kudos to you and the Indian standard to be vulnerable and share your story.
Speaker: But what is the life like in the culture that you were raised in and you grew up in?
Speaker: You said the age of 12 to 22, I mean, that's 10 years.
Speaker: Like,
Speaker: What was that like?
Speaker: What is the paradigm in that culture of how you see vulnerability or speaking on the things that might hinder you or challenge you in turn?
Speaker: So before I answer that, I wanted to reflect on the threes that I'm sure you already know this, but in astrology, it's Gemini's the third one.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: So Gemini is ruled by Mercury, who rules communication.
Speaker: So there we go.
Speaker: And artistry and music and all of that.
Speaker: So that's that's really interesting.
Speaker: Anyway, so yeah, I mean, I would say like, okay, so my parents are very, very special, very, very unique people and that they both had a love marriage.
Speaker: That's not very common.
Speaker: And they were always very open to any sort of belief system that I wanted to carry.
Speaker: I could marry whoever I wanted.
Speaker: I could always date.
Speaker: Like I'm not a typical Indian kid in that I didn't have those like strict rules growing up, right?
Speaker: Like it wasn't like, you can't date, you can't do this, you can't do that.
Speaker: Like you have to follow this.
Speaker: And it wasn't like that for me.
Speaker: And I think that's another, that's a huge reason as to why
Speaker: It's interesting because I feel like I kind of put a lot of pressure on myself because I knew like that privilege that I had because I was growing up with all these other Indian kids who lived a whole different life than me.
Speaker: And I think because I was like so guilty over having such a good life, I suppressed all of like the negativity that I was feeling.
Speaker: Let's talk about that.
Speaker: I mean, I don't want to stop you.
Speaker: I think that is a shadow side of life.
Speaker: about individuals that we don't talk about.
Speaker: So just to elaborate on your upbringing, your mom and dad, love dynamic, there was no rules or restriction around who you could date, who you could marry.
Speaker: So you had a little bit of freedom, but then there was parts of you because you probably had the love or support, you probably felt guilty because maybe your friends didn't have the same access.
Speaker: So I have a cousin, mom, dad, Harvard, they live in Massachusetts, he went to Syracuse, mom paid.
Speaker: I'm from Baltimore.
Speaker: And so there was always this thing where he felt he had to be different because of it was different or have clients, you know, you know, who was raised in really wealthy families and they make a lot of money, but it's still paying.
Speaker: Why do you think from your perspective that that is such a thing that's, it's hard to kind of be in for someone like you or someone that's in that world because no one knows that story or that side unless you're in it.
Speaker: Right, like that guilt.
Speaker: Yeah, like where does that come from?
Speaker: And why do you think it's, is it because it's not normalized and people like make you feel like, oh, you don't have a bad life or you didn't go through anything, right?
Speaker: Because what they see.
Speaker: It's really hard to identify.
Speaker: I'm sure it's different for each person.
Speaker: I think I can identify a couple instances when my friends would be like,
Speaker: oh, you have like the cleaning lady is coming over today.
Speaker: You know, and it's like, because my mom, I mean, I couldn't go into the whole spiel of like, well, my mom is just switching careers and she's actually in school right now while she's raising two babies and my dad's never home and da-da-da-da-da.
Speaker: Like, I couldn't get into those justifications.
Speaker: Instead, I would just be like, yeah, the cleaning ladies are coming, you know?
Speaker: And it's like, we had a babysitter my whole life.
Speaker: Like I didn't go into, hey, my parents weren't actually like home as much as I wish they were.
Speaker: Instead, I would just kind of swallow everything.
Speaker: And I'm sure like a lot of other kids kind of felt like what creates that guilt.
Speaker: I'm sure that there's like a lot of societal pressure of like, hey, you need to be this kind of way with this type of upbringing.
Speaker: Like this is the expectation of you.
Speaker: Don't even dare to like stray from that mold.
Speaker: And for me, I don't think my parents expected me to want to be a creative.
Speaker: I don't think they wanted me to, I don't think they expected me to live the life and be the type of person that I am today.
Speaker: And I think like now they've taken it in good stride, but I think for a while it was like, do you really need to make a magazine?
Speaker: Why can't you just be content with your career?
Speaker: What was that path like for them for you?
Speaker: Like, was there any intentions of what you should or route you should go from their perspective?
Speaker: I mean, yeah, I think like for me, so I went to school for finance and English and I guess which one I chose.
Speaker: And then I went into banking.
Speaker: I still have my nine to five job while I'm working for the Indian standard and everything.
Speaker: And it's it's a lot.
Speaker: I think like right now, my parents definitely are happy that I have a creative outlet.
Speaker: I don't think they see it as a career.
Speaker: And I think that's the world we're going in where a lot of the people that's coming up next, they want to be creative so much or they are right.
Speaker: They don't understand nine to five.
Speaker: They don't understand structure.
Speaker: They don't understand steps to get to the thing like a creative.
Speaker: Like you said, you created something out of nowhere.
Speaker: And I think there's a part within the school system, education system that should be carved out for creatives.
Speaker: Like, you know, mental health is part of your creative forces, right?
Speaker: How you think, how you feel, what you believe.
Speaker: What if you're not, you don't have patience to sit and read a lecture or listen to someone for an hour.
Speaker: So I'm happy and proud to know you that you're doing both and you can still, you know, excel in both areas and still own your creativity.
Speaker: Because what I think happens is when you're in a corporate environment, you have a job,
Speaker: you dismay and you lose your creativity.
Speaker: So now you don't really have no real flow to create the flow that you really want from your soul, even if it's not making you money, but it's giving you life that you need outside of work.
Speaker: I think it's definitely unique because my job
Speaker: ended or started sorry in August 2020.
Speaker: And like I said, like the magazine started in June of 2020.
Speaker: So I've always had both.
Speaker: I've never had to like, people are like, how do you balance both?
Speaker: Like, how do you put on these shoots and like go to these meetings and stuff?
Speaker: And I'm like, I just, I don't think that there's,
Speaker: I've always had it, you know, like I've built everything around both.
Speaker: And I'm happy that I have both.
Speaker: I think that my nine to five gives me mental peace money-wise.
Speaker: And I think it helps me understand where my financial wounds are.
Speaker: I think it helps me understand like where my reflections are.
Speaker: Like it's an interesting place where
Speaker: you have like completely different people that you interact with from nine to five to five to nine.
Speaker: And you're like, wow, like I can totally see where my flaws are, my shadow, my light.
Speaker: Like it's so apparent.
Speaker: And I'm grateful for that, for that reflection.
Speaker: And it's amazing because it's like, when you come to work, you're not just a person with a job and a title.
Speaker: You're a person who has a job that you add value to.
Speaker: And then you're just creative that can think outside of the box of the profession you're in.
Speaker: So I'm curious, you know, you spoke about, you know,
Speaker: communication you know the third house gemini so what is your sign where's your moon you're rising and more importantly where's your mercury yeah um okay so my so i follow vedic astrology so it's a little different so that's like sidereal astrology um so i'm a scorpio sun sagittarius moon and taurus rising in vedic and i'm a sagittarius sun in western okay
Speaker: Do you know your moon and rising in Western?
Speaker: No.
Speaker: It's just one over.
Speaker: So in Western astrology, it's like shifted one over.
Speaker: So for me, it would be Gemini, I guess, rising.
Speaker: And then I guess it would be.
Speaker: So it's the opposite you're saying?
Speaker: It's like shifted one over by the chart.
Speaker: Like if you look at it in order, like I'm a Taurus rising in Western.
Speaker: So then I would be a Gemini in Western.
Speaker: I'm just curious because I know in Western astrology, you know, your moon is your mood and your emotions, but your Mercury sign is how you think and communicate.
Speaker: So I kind of think and communicate like an Aquarian because that's the energy, it's an air sign, right?
Speaker: I'm thinking, but it's amazing.
Speaker: So I really want to talk about spirituality.
Speaker: What does it mean to you?
Speaker: And then I want to get a little into like the mental health part of entrepreneurship.
Speaker: So when you think about spirituality, what does that mean?
Speaker: What's the first thing that comes to mind for you?
Speaker: For me, it's my connection to, it's the bond that I have with myself
Speaker: And the bond that I have with God.
Speaker: And it's just to be as blatant as that.
Speaker: I used to sugarcoat it and say universe, but I really meant was God.
Speaker: And I think for all of us, like kind of talking about God is a little bit taboo.
Speaker: But for me, I think spirituality now I can feel happy that it's it's my grounding force to speak with myself and speak to God.
Speaker: Yeah, and it's amazing because, you know, people go back and forth.
Speaker: But I always tell people, you know, God is the universe.
Speaker: God is everything, right?
Speaker: It's the infinite being, infinite intelligence, the creator, all things.
Speaker: But everyone has different meaning.
Speaker: And there's something where I say...
Speaker: The universe is like your body, right?
Speaker: Because you can see it, you can feel it.
Speaker: And then God is like your spirit or your soul.
Speaker: Because you can't see it, but it's present, right?
Speaker: So I always use that analogy, but it's all encompassing one thing, the higher up, the higher energy.
Speaker: So that's beautiful.
Speaker: And when it comes to spirituality, how does spirituality help you when it comes to mental health?
Speaker: And how did you allow that self-discovery help you help others?
Speaker: Okay, so I think, so with mental health, I never really understood a couple of years ago how mental health, spirituality, and religion flowed together.
Speaker: It kind of seemed like separate entities because it seemed like they were different rules.
Speaker: Cognitive behavioral therapy, I'll just jump ahead a little bit in my thought process, but cognitive behavioral therapy, CBT, we know that term a lot in the mental health world.
Speaker: And then we know like law of assumption and man of assumption and like revision and all those different techniques in the spiritual world.
Speaker: And then we have rituals in like the religious world, right?
Speaker: And so just taking those three components and seeing how they all kind of mesh together, like CBT is helping you rewrite your beliefs so that you can start thinking differently.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: In spirituality, that's exactly what we're trying to do with law of assumption.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Like, like understand your shadow self, understand your light self, think about what your beliefs are.
Speaker: What is your perception of the world?
Speaker: And do you, is there an opportunity to change that?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: That's literally shadow work.
Speaker: Um, and then the, with the rituals and everything, I find that the discipline and the practice of spirituality is my religion.
Speaker: You know, like me being ritualistic with my spiritual practices allows me to be really connected to my religion.
Speaker: And the book that we refer to in Hinduism is called the Bhagavad Gita.
Speaker: And in the Bhagavad Gita, the entire conversation between Krishna, the God and Arjuna, a human is about anxiety and mental struggles.
Speaker: Yes, like the entire book is every sort of mental,
Speaker: struggle that you can think of God having a response for.
Speaker: And of course I'm putting it very simply, but that's the extent of it.
Speaker: Like literally tells you like chapter two is all about how to combat fear.
Speaker: You know, what is the relationship between your soul and God?
Speaker: You know, like what does that relationship look like?
Speaker: How, how important is it to keep that at the forefront of your mind?
Speaker: So when you talk about like the intersectionality between all three things, like to me now, thankfully it all is the same.
Speaker: I think I used to like confuse myself in the past being like, am I like following?
Speaker: What am I following?
Speaker: What are my beliefs?
Speaker: Like, what do I actually think about anything?
Speaker: And I realized I really care about connectivity.
Speaker: I really care about my relationship to God and I care about being happy.
Speaker: And so what are those things that are gonna allow me to feel all of them every day, right?
Speaker: And I think that that's where all these different tools come in.
Speaker: That's where these practices come in and that's where that intersectionality happens.
Speaker: Yeah, and it's beautiful to own and be certain about that, those practices, those routines, those rituals, because, you know, I've been fortunate to be in a lot of different places and with people traveling the world, having success.
Speaker: And I realized, you know, it's interesting.
Speaker: Everything always comes back to one.
Speaker: No matter how rich, how poor, people always emphasize God, whether it's the God they believe, the God they know, the God the world is telling them.
Speaker: and they wanna pray or they just, they might call me for prayer, right?
Speaker: And they might not be the biggest religious or spiritual person, but there's some type of God in their psyche that they know exists even if they're not as tapped in with it.
Speaker: So I know deep down with everyone, we're all connected, the collective consciousness.
Speaker: And some of us are just more into our spiritual practices to help other people be more into it as well, maybe when they're alone.
Speaker: And I think that's the struggle for most people, because I think if people just be vulnerable and say, listen, I pray before we came on.
Speaker: I'm intentional about that.
Speaker: I don't just, yeah, let's get on and talk, because I want to make sure our energies and where we're at and our spirits and our soul, our ancestors are coming in their present, and they're helping us have a beautiful conversation to help someone else, because it's bigger than up.
Speaker: I'm really glad that that's part of your practice to you're putting in this juice right away for the podcast.
Speaker: And I can feel it, right?
Speaker: Like one thing that I wanted to tell you, like after we got off the call actually was you make me feel confident.
Speaker: Like when I get on here, I don't usually talk like this.
Speaker: Like this is not, I don't usually, I'm not like this proud of like my, but you're making me want to be proud of me.
Speaker: And I think that that's something that, that's a huge talent of yours and something that I've never really encountered in a lot of people.
Speaker: So thank you.
Speaker: That inspired me.
Speaker: Cause like I said, every day I pray to God, I say, God, you know, allow me to post the right content, to think the right thoughts, connect with the right people, doing the right things at the right time with the right mind.
Speaker: allow a miracle to take place in my present day for me, for whoever's in my, you know, like these are things I, like, you know, like it's like, like you said, creating something out of nothing.
Speaker: It's miracle season.
Speaker: I channel, it came to me.
Speaker: It wasn't like I was sitting down and I'm like,
Speaker: You know, but this is the miracle.
Speaker: This is the miracle conversation that's going to heal someone listening because I want people to feel comfortable being a most authentic self.
Speaker: Like when we turn these cameras off and when we turn these phones off, who are we, what are we doing?
Speaker: What are we listening to?
Speaker: What are we watching?
Speaker: I was just watching an interview with, uh, uh, Reverend urban.
Speaker: I think that's his name.
Speaker: He was doing an interview with Lewis house and he talks about frequencies and communication and how behind everybody's worth is a frequency.
Speaker: So he started to discuss like TV shows like Succession and Friends.
Speaker: And he said he was watching episodes of Succession.
Speaker: And he said they have a very shadow frequency behind their communication.
Speaker: And so Lewis was asking like, what is shadow?
Speaker: He's like manipulative, pushy, disgruntled.
Speaker: But you can't really see it, but you feel it.
Speaker: And so...
Speaker: Sometimes when we're communicating, we're communicating from a shadow frequency that we don't know that's in control of us.
Speaker: So that's why I tell people it is important to have a spiritual life.
Speaker: It's important to pray because, like I said in the beginning, there's different things in the ether that are working against or for you.
Speaker: And so I'm just thinking that you have something like the Indian standard, the magazine, mental health space, because I've witnessed this year and the first time in my life, two people that's really close to me contemplate that suicide, that they don't wanna be here.
Speaker: And that hurt, right?
Speaker: Now it's different to hear it, to read about it, but to be like on the other side when someone is having an episodic attack and like, they're really going and you're like, what do you do?
Speaker: But yes, I'm this positive guy.
Speaker: And I'm like, I don't know what to do.
Speaker: And I feel hopeless and helpless.
Speaker: it made me wake up to like, hold on, what's going on in the world?
Speaker: Oh, I'm gonna do something about this.
Speaker: So I'm just thankful that as a person like you, that's spreading your energy in a universe to let people know, listen people, mental health is real.
Speaker: Let's talk about it.
Speaker: Let's adapt some spiritual practices and let's come together and help each other evolve.
Speaker: So I'm just thankful for you and everything you got going on.
Speaker: But I do want to talk about, like, you know, you said something.
Speaker: I was doing some research and you said there's a difference between day one mentality and day 30.
Speaker: Can you unpack that, elaborate on that?
Speaker: All I could think about was fixed mindset, growth mindset, but I don't know.
Speaker: Yeah, I think like with day one, right?
Speaker: Like if I have a belief about something today and, you know, in 30 days, I might have a different belief about it, right?
Speaker: Obviously like time goes on, like your thoughts change.
Speaker: But I think like over the course of a year, two years, three years, so much about our life changes.
Speaker: Like what if we were to experience all of that right now?
Speaker: Because right now you are in touch with your future self.
Speaker: and your past self, right?
Speaker: You just have to tap in.
Speaker: Like all those little gut feelings that we get, it's coming from her, from the future self, right?
Speaker: So I know that I can talk to my past self right now.
Speaker: So that's why I don't wanna talk crap about her.
Speaker: I'm not gonna shit on her.
Speaker: I'm not gonna shit on her experience.
Speaker: right?
Speaker: Like I have to validate her in order for me to also feel validated now and for my future self to validate me now too.
Speaker: So anytime I'm having like a doubt about something, like, you know, when you get into like a, should I do this?
Speaker: Should I not do this?
Speaker: Like, is this in my, is it, is it in alignment with who and what and where I want to go?
Speaker: I always sit down and I meditate and I say like, what would day 30 me say?
Speaker: You know, like what would she say?
Speaker: Oh, that's good.
Speaker: Because
Speaker: A future version of me knows the answer.
Speaker: She knows what you're going to do, right?
Speaker: So obviously, if she can guide me right now, I just need to be able to silence my mind for a little bit.
Speaker: and let her talk to me.
Speaker: And so that's a practice that I have currently.
Speaker: And it's actually something that you don't necessarily need to just do in meditation.
Speaker: Like I feel like she's here with me right now.
Speaker: I think like once you start to get really into your body and like really start to connect yourself with you, you can get access to them at any point.
Speaker: It's just really intentionality.
Speaker: That's beautiful because I had a friend tell me years ago, he said, praying to God is talking to God.
Speaker: And in meditation, God is talking to you.
Speaker: Oh, I love that.
Speaker: I was in a podcast just last week and they said the same thing.
Speaker: Like I have never heard that before.
Speaker: So I'm interested.
Speaker: So now I'm curious about for meditation, what type of meditation are you doing and what type of meditation or how long are you meditating?
Speaker: Because I think everyone has a different interpretation of meditation.
Speaker: It's kind of like religion or their belief in God is their own perspective.
Speaker: How does meditation, you know, look like, what does it look like in your life?
Speaker: So I have a couple of different ways.
Speaker: I think if I feel like right now today, I feel inclined to sit down and do nothing and just meditate, right?
Speaker: Those are days, I have days where it's really accessible for me to sit down, do nothing and just meditate, not even listening to anything.
Speaker: There are other days where it kind of feels like that's not at access for me for some reason and so I will supplement with like a healing frequency or something like that.
Speaker: Like I'll do like a guided meditation on a chakra or I'll just listen to some music in the background like some frequency music.
Speaker: Other types of meditations look like going into the shower and being really mindful.
Speaker: Like to me mindfulness is a way to I guess test yourself on how well
Speaker: You are meditating well in quotes, right?
Speaker: How well you're meditating, how quickly are you able to let thoughts pass through, right?
Speaker: Like if you're at an intersection and you're at red light, you're not gonna fixate on a car going all the way from one end to the other, right?
Speaker: You're gonna just let the cars pass by you when you're at an intersection.
Speaker: Unless, of course, it's a cool car.
Speaker: You might look at it and then it might leave your view.
Speaker: But just like that, a thought, it's OK to fixate on some of them, but just let them eventually go out of your view.
Speaker: And that's kind of like how quick are you able to do that?
Speaker: And life is, you know, practice.
Speaker: Life is like your test.
Speaker: Meditation is like your practice for that.
Speaker: So walking meditation is helpful.
Speaker: Have you coined that before?
Speaker: I've never heard that.
Speaker: Life is a test and meditation is your practice for that.
Speaker: spiritual practice is like a practice but i never heard the first part life is a test and meditation is a practice for that you know how powerful that i really just made that up as i went along i'm not even gonna lie you gotta coin that that is like that breaks through so many barriers within the human mind life is a test and meditation is your practice for that what do you mean by meditation
Speaker: peace, silence, prayer, intangible gifts that you can't see, but you can only feel.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: So I, yeah, I mean, I think part of like part of meditation, I think putting these like productivity rules on it, like you would at work is what's making people not want to do it.
Speaker: I think you being like, I got to meditate every single day at four o'clock in the morning and meet this goal and dah, dah, dah, dah.
Speaker: And I'm like, just why?
Speaker: Like, what are you trying to prove?
Speaker: Like how spiritual you are?
Speaker: Like, are you trying to prove that I am connected with myself?
Speaker: I promise.
Speaker: Like, there's no need.
Speaker: So I think like once you start to just understand my, this is about me getting to know me.
Speaker: Like I'm not going to put a test on how good I am at it by making sure that I'm regimented.
Speaker: Regiment will come once you start to understand what meditation means to you, right?
Speaker: Like taking somebody else's definition of meditation and applying it to your life is just not going to work.
Speaker: You got to figure out, I mean, you can do it to inspire you, but then, you know, practice it yourself, practice it.
Speaker: get acquainted with it, same with journaling, and then, you know, you'll be able to continue it.
Speaker: How did you get to that concept?
Speaker: Because I feel like in my life, that's what I struggle with the most, because I'm very structured, very disciplined, very regimented, right?
Speaker: Because, you know, there's no blueprint to what I'm doing or what I've done.
Speaker: So I'm always like, okay, we research these people.
Speaker: And this past year, I realized like meditation is not working.
Speaker: I just read that book, it's not working.
Speaker: And then, you know, I had a, you know, a reading with a healer and she was like, you just need to play.
Speaker: The divine wants you to play.
Speaker: No more being productive.
Speaker: Have fun.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And so I'm in a space of,
Speaker: learning how to not feel like if I don't meditate, something bad is going to happen or if I don't pray.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And I think for me, it's coming from fear.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Because I feel like these things will protect me or keep me in this box of like, I have to do this.
Speaker: However, you probably will get more when you're not doing the thing because you're not so attached to it to feel how you want to feel.
Speaker: So what part of your life or what
Speaker: purpose did it serve for you to get that inclination to know that?
Speaker: Because I think it's power in knowing that you don't have to be regimented.
Speaker: You don't have to do it every day.
Speaker: Like you said, you take days where you do nothing.
Speaker: Like that's what my hero said.
Speaker: Like you just need to do nothing and more stuff are going to come to you.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: How did you get past lives?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So so I'll share with you, you know, I've never shared this with on a podcast, but this is what, you know, spirit is calling.
Speaker: So I had a Kasha record reading like last week, I believe.
Speaker: And she said some very interesting thing.
Speaker: She said, there's two paths.
Speaker: They all lead to one.
Speaker: She said, it's up to you.
Speaker: You can make it hard or you can make it easy.
Speaker: And she said, by the way, you already served your purpose in life.
Speaker: She was like, the divine is happy with you.
Speaker: You put in so much work.
Speaker: They want you to have fun.
Speaker: They want you to let go and just have fun.
Speaker: And I'm like, what?
Speaker: She's like, you're here to influence love on people.
Speaker: She says, so when you get in your head space, your intellectual space, that's when you get confused and life becomes a little difficult.
Speaker: But when you're in spirit, when you're in your heart, that's the best.
Speaker: So I'm like, and I know that.
Speaker: Not in that terminology, but I know when I'm in my spiritual center and I'm like moving from my intuition and I'm aligned, I don't have to think things just come.
Speaker: So it was interesting.
Speaker: It made me realize like, cause I'm like, I'm doing all this work, but it's not getting me nowhere.
Speaker: Cause I'm not allowing myself the other side of my persona, right?
Speaker: Play or enjoyment.
Speaker: So yeah.
Speaker: I think the past lives that we all have, like not all of us have access to our past life.
Speaker: And I think like a lot of Abrahamic religions tell us that there isn't such a thing.
Speaker: So this is only for the people that believe like that this is like a possibility.
Speaker: So my, like the reason why we are the way we are right now, right?
Speaker: Is first of all, we asked to come back onto this plane.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: We wanted something at the end of our lives, because the thing that keeps us here in this 3D reality instead of up there in the 5D is desire.
Speaker: So we had a desire at the end of our life, last life.
Speaker: And this is just like speculation, just from all the stuff that I've read.
Speaker: And I'm sure that we probably had something that we wanted and we wanted to come back.
Speaker: And we had a certain level of skillset.
Speaker: We had this premonition, we had whatever it is.
Speaker: And we came into this life and I could talk about this for like years.
Speaker: So stop me.
Speaker: We came into this life with this level of skillset.
Speaker: And like, they were like, okay, go like pause, restart, you know?
Speaker: And it's like kind of the thing where it's like,
Speaker: So in Vedic astrology, there's a thing called Mahandasa, and it's the time period in which you were born in.
Speaker: And so some people can be born in Mercury's time period or North Node or South Node.
Speaker: And that is when you actually died in your last life.
Speaker: So you can get indications on like what kind of life that you are and what you're going to live based on that time period.
Speaker: So there's a lot of links as to understand that past lives are real and they influence us.
Speaker: It's so real because I know I've been here several
Speaker: I'm also, I did get, you know, recognition that I was, I'm a star seed.
Speaker: I've been here when the first humans were here years ago, I think it was a Lyran star seed type.
Speaker: But I also know my south node was in Virgo and 11th house, meaning that in my past life, I was some type of healer.
Speaker: And everything I did was for people and it was life or death.
Speaker: So whenever people needed me in this lifetime, because I'm still using that energy from that space, I feel like I got to be.
Speaker: Whereas like Pisces in the North, no, in the fifth house is like, no, you need to trust and let go and not be so mundane and like a Virgo, so, you know, regimented and just be free and have fun.
Speaker: So it's that, but not having that information, I'll just be confusing myself.
Speaker: And that's why I said information changes situation.
Speaker: And the more you know about you, the more you can grow you.
Speaker: And I'll call it the book of you.
Speaker: Yeah, it's powerful.
Speaker: I mean, we can talk all day about these things because I'm excited because you're like you're tuned in, dialed in, tapped in.
Speaker: But I want to give the listeners some tangible resources or tools or steps they can do, because we talked about mental health a bit.
Speaker: But to anyone, because I feel like it's, you know, mental health crisis is rising in America all over.
Speaker: what is something someone who suffers from depression or anxiety or, you know, having, you know, numerous panic attacks, is there something in your wheelhouse that you know can help lessen that or, you know, help improve that mental capacity when they're having panic or anxiety or they're feeling depressed?
Speaker: What is something you could give the people?
Speaker: I think everyone responds to things in such different ways.
Speaker: So if you're somebody
Speaker: you know, really likes words and you like, you feel comforted by the things that people say, I will say that all the struggles that you are currently going through are things that are helping you align to that perfect path, that place that you want to be at.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And it's like what you just said, like, do I want to take the hard way?
Speaker: Do I want to take the easy way?
Speaker: A lot of times, if you're going through a lot and you're like panicking and just surrender,
Speaker: and allow the panic to kind of happen.
Speaker: Like you feeling panic does not mean that you're behind.
Speaker: If you have been struggling for a really long time, like let's say like 10 years, five years, four years, two years, whatever the case may be.
Speaker: And you're like, well, I already worked through this.
Speaker: Like, why am I going through this again?
Speaker: That doesn't mean that you're a failure.
Speaker: It doesn't mean that you still have like, that you don't know what it means to take care of yourself or anything.
Speaker: What it really means is that this is a new level of the hurt and pain and that's okay.
Speaker: You know, like we all experienced like different levels of hurt and pain.
Speaker: Like, trust me, like I had a mental breakdown last night.
Speaker: Like it's been a tough three weeks, I think for a lot of people, you know, it's been really hard.
Speaker: And there's a lot of purging times and there's times where, especially when, you know, you and I are like, we're in the position where we talk to a lot of people all the time.
Speaker: Like you can sense like, this is a collective thing and this is not just me.
Speaker: And I think like, you know, once you start to realize like you're part of a bigger picture,
Speaker: you'll realize how worth it you are.
Speaker: And like, you are gonna, like at the end of the day, like you have a job to do on the Senate.
Speaker: you're gonna do it.
Speaker: Whether it's this life, next life or the life after, like you are here for a reason and that should be reason enough to stay.
Speaker: And if it's not, you can call both of us.
Speaker: I love that.
Speaker: You said something powerful.
Speaker: You said, once you understand that you're part of the bigger picture, then you're gonna know you're worth it.
Speaker: I had a friend tell me, it was so interesting.
Speaker: We didn't go into details, but she said she had a grandmother pass a few years ago.
Speaker: And she felt different things shifted.
Speaker: But what she said was in this lifetime, if you're having a hard life in this lifetime, that means your afterlife is that much easier.
Speaker: I was like,
Speaker: That's nice.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: He's like, he talked about that another time.
Speaker: I was like, oh, you're just going to hit me with that.
Speaker: But yeah, that's good advice.
Speaker: You know, let you know, like if you're having a panic attack, you're not behind to know that if you're suffering, we all suffer.
Speaker: Like a few weeks ago, I mean, I was in Baltimore and I came home, you know, I had to leave, you know, my girlfriend and
Speaker: family behind.
Speaker: And then, you know, I realized like, man, I got to go back and be me and create another me.
Speaker: But I cried the next morning when I got back, man, just because it's like, I know what it takes to be me.
Speaker: Also, I've been experiencing a dark night of the soul all this year.
Speaker: So a lot of contrast, right?
Speaker: Where I'm asking God, and I know my old soul, you know, the old version of me, I was grieving him.
Speaker: That is dying off.
Speaker: And I had to like have radical acceptance saying yes to all of life, not just the things I like or inspire, but even the things I don't like about myself.
Speaker: I'm literally mourning my own self right now.
Speaker: I literally, like, I think like a lot of, I could hear someone say for some reason, like, but you guys have a podcast, but you have a platform.
Speaker: What do you struggle?
Speaker: It's like, it's not to say like, okay, obviously like everybody struggles, but it's more about to say like, to be this person, to be able to talk to a bunch of people, there's a part of us that has to have love for ourselves in order to do this.
Speaker: You know, we, we went through the painful aspects of life a little bit when we were younger, you know, and that allowed us to, and we're going through it right now.
Speaker: Like when I say, I feel like I'm mourning myself.
Speaker: What I mean is that I am asked right now, Janani, do you want to advance or do you want to stay the same?
Speaker: And I was like,
Speaker: I want to stay the same because it's comfortable.
Speaker: Like, I don't want to release my bad habits.
Speaker: I don't want to be this different person.
Speaker: Like, why are you asking me to do this stuff?
Speaker: And, and then I was like, okay, like, obviously like shut up.
Speaker: Like, let's, let's figure out like what it is that you need to do to become this next version of you.
Speaker: And I had to, I literally grieved the version of me last night that is no longer going to be a part of this universe anymore.
Speaker: Like I've got to, I've got to level up and that's hard.
Speaker: Like just look at yourself in the mirror and just be like, okay, yeah, shit needs to change.
Speaker: And if not, it will be a hard change.
Speaker: There's a guy named Kyle Seas.
Speaker: He has a video.
Speaker: I'm going to send it to you.
Speaker: He calls it the funeral of your old self.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Morning, morning that person.
Speaker: He said, you know, that people pleasing that she was saying yes to everybody.
Speaker: You know, be thankful for that person.
Speaker: That person got you here, but you can no longer be that person anymore.
Speaker: So you want the life that you say you want.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So I'm just all about this year.
Speaker: I've been doing so many readings and, you know, I have, you know, healers and astrologers, but also I realized like, I try so much to run from my real pain and feelings.
Speaker: that this year is like, no, no, no, you got to sit in this.
Speaker: You can't run this time, young man, right?
Speaker: Because you got to evolve, right?
Speaker: And it's been uncomfortable.
Speaker: It's been the best year of my life because it's taught me that the spiritual realm is real, which I know, but you know how someone says, you got to have faith.
Speaker: You got to have faith.
Speaker: No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker: I really had to have faith this year.
Speaker: My dad was in and out of the hospital and I've seen my dad with tears in his eyes and I've never experienced that as a man.
Speaker: And he's like, I need your energy, come home.
Speaker: And I'm praying and my prayers are coming to fruition and things are shifting.
Speaker: I said, okay.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: You know, because I pray all the time, but when it's like severe and you got people you love telling them they don't want to be here anymore and you're like,
Speaker: What?
Speaker: Yeah, like, it's like, is this a movie?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It has really leveled me up.
Speaker: It was like, no, I got to really tap into my spirit.
Speaker: I got to go deeper.
Speaker: I got to go wider.
Speaker: You know, I have to extend.
Speaker: I have to, I mean, I literally just got this book.
Speaker: I don't know if you've seen this book.
Speaker: Oh, that's awesome.
Speaker: Yeah, so...
Speaker: the work pays and i always say is the work you can't see that pays the shadow work the the prayer the silence the meditation um changing how you think and what you think and i just think it's just beautiful that you're using your platform to be authentic and transparent um is there any books for you coming up or any uh workbooks like i feel like you're like a a teacher in a sense of like what the material you have i know you got the magazine which is phenomenal
Speaker: Yeah, so the magazine, each magazine comes with a little documentary.
Speaker: So I've been trying to, my first documentary that I ever created is out on YouTube.
Speaker: It's all about duty and understanding what duty means to you.
Speaker: That's a huge lesson in the Bhagavad Gita.
Speaker: And part of what I want to do is help bring spirituality back to your ancestors.
Speaker: So I do have workbooks out to answer that question.
Speaker: It's on my Instagram page.
Speaker: But the other aspect is like, I think what the best thing that ever happened to me was when I asked my parents, hey, what do we actually learn?
Speaker: What is our like, what are their ancestors want us to know?
Speaker: And I want people to get to the point where they can ask their parents that.
Speaker: That comes with a lot of forgiveness and empathy for the older generation that comes with this.
Speaker: So that's one.
Speaker: And then the other thing is just being a student for life.
Speaker: I would like to encourage both of those things for as long as I'm here.
Speaker: So in that way, I'm trying to create documentaries and magazines that help inspire you to go back to your ancestors and say, what is it that I need to keep doing?
Speaker: And what do I need to teach the next generation?
Speaker: Because we're all gonna go someday and I don't want my kids to just not know our culture and our heritage.
Speaker: I don't want like our whole collective culture to go away.
Speaker: Spirituality is harder and harder to practice with the way that this world is.
Speaker: Yeah, the thing is, you know, everyone is getting material well for opportunity, but if you don't have no spiritual currency, what I like to say, you're just going to be completely empty, right?
Speaker: I feel like the world and the planet is changing and going to a higher dimension.
Speaker: So I feel like it's the world we have to become spiritual to evolve in a flesh to 3D.
Speaker: When you said your ancestors, what are the best practices or what is the quickest or fastest way to connect to your ancestors from like, how does that work?
Speaker: I think you have to connect with yourself first.
Speaker: And that's like a theme for today.
Speaker: You got to open up that gateway first and get, like, you got to get comfortable with hearing no answer.
Speaker: I think that's the thing.
Speaker: Like, you can just be like, so what do I need to do today?
Speaker: I did the same thing when it comes to posting.
Speaker: I'm like, what does the collective need to hear today?
Speaker: No answer.
Speaker: It's like, okay, don't post, you know, like, shut up for a little bit, go through life and then come back.
Speaker: And so sometimes I just have to like get comfortable with not getting an answer, but then also asking in different ways, like I love pulling tarot cards, I feel like gives me a lot of clarity.
Speaker: I love meditating, I love speaking to God directly like going to a temple and literally just talking.
Speaker: I like talking to friends.
Speaker: I feel like people kind of give us answers in different ways too, like keeping your ears open when you're walking down the road.
Speaker: There's so many ways that we get answers.
Speaker: It's kind of mind-boggling.
Speaker: You just have to form that connection with yourself first, and then you'll see the answers everywhere.
Speaker: And I feel like those signs will just be very apparent on what you need to do to honor your ancestors.
Speaker: But there's like rituals and stuff that we can.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I think, you know, people just owning like whatever comes through for them, because I think some people get caught up in what everyone else is doing or not doing.
Speaker: And they realize they're not supposed to do that.
Speaker: Like you're chosen to get this message and put this out in the universe.
Speaker: They have more followers.
Speaker: I think people get caught up in views and engagement and likes, which I understand.
Speaker: I can relate, you know, but more importantly, you never know who's watching your content.
Speaker: And people listen, I want to share a story about, you know, there's a guy named Paul Brunson.
Speaker: I think that's his last name.
Speaker: He's a relationship coach.
Speaker: And he had some clients that he was coaching.
Speaker: And one of his clients was the editor for Oprah, right?
Speaker: And so mind you, he had started this like relationship talk show on YouTube.
Speaker: He probably had, I don't know, 35 subscribers or something.
Speaker: He probably was getting like 11 views, right?
Speaker: And so then his editor who he's coaching for the relationship
Speaker: is on a flight with Oprah and Oprah's like, do you know anybody that would be great for a show, a relationship show on the OWN Network?
Speaker: She's like, yeah, my relationship coach.
Speaker: So Oprah goes to his YouTube,
Speaker: watched one of his episodes and I think he said one episode she watched had 11 views and she was one of the 11 views he got an opportunity to be on the Oprah on the own network.
Speaker: So people like sometimes you got to get out of yeah you never know who's listening who's watching and it's just a beautiful you know opportunity to kind of like tap into that creativity outside of the job and the professional the home and family because
Speaker: it'll give you a break way or break in a way that you didn't know you needed all because you're feeding your creative juices.
Speaker: And I think more people just need to, you know, hear you, see you, feel you.
Speaker: And I think what you have to give the world is so amazing.
Speaker: I mean, I see you doing a TED talk.
Speaker: Oh, you too.
Speaker: Like, you know what I mean?
Speaker: Like you just have that,
Speaker: I don't know, you just have that presence about you where people want to listen.
Speaker: Like, oh, tell me more.
Speaker: I love it.
Speaker: You know, this, like, for me, this was a beautiful discussion.
Speaker: I'm so happy you were vulnerable and transparent.
Speaker: Now, before we get off, I just, you know, I just asked one question.
Speaker: If, if this was your last day on earth, what would you hope for humanity?
Speaker: What would I hope for humanity?
Speaker: I, you know,
Speaker: I think a lot of the shadow and the light that we have on this planet right now, I know it's so scary.
Speaker: I think it's just to kind of understand that I think it's all supposed to be here for right now.
Speaker: And I think like we could take this whole surrendering, you know, aspect to ourselves and practice it in our day-to-day life.
Speaker: And I think, I hope more people learn to surrender as time goes on.
Speaker: Yeah, and I think surrender is the secret weapon to allowing God and the universe to support you in every aspect.
Speaker: Because when you're free, you're not thinking, you're just doing, right?
Speaker: Or you're letting go.
Speaker: That was a great, great response.
Speaker: So how can we find you?
Speaker: Where shall we follow you?
Speaker: Give us the websites.
Speaker: Give us the URL.
Speaker: Give us whatever we need.
Speaker: We need to tap into your frequency and your aura layer.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: So I am by Genity Everywhere, Instagram, TikTok.
Speaker: I and then I have my magazine which is the Indian Standard, the Indian Standard Everywhere, it's the indianstandard.co.
Speaker: We do have the next magazine coming out by I think hopefully by the end of October.
Speaker: It is a one woman show so it's a little bit it's really just all about like women the second one.
Speaker: It's about the pillars of our society
Speaker: And it's about devotion so it's really in line with today's discussion.
Speaker: The entire volume four of my magazine this year it goes duty, devotion and then destruction.
Speaker: So the three things that I feel like are pivotal to my learning thus far in my the Bhagavad Gita classes that I'm taking so.
Speaker: I wanted to reflect on the classes and kind of pour it into the magazine.
Speaker: And I found some beautiful participants to kind of emulate that.
Speaker: So documentary and magazine, and I have merch out now that that's exciting.
Speaker: And then I have my YouTube channel and everything.
Speaker: So it's all identity.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Hey, follow her, subscribe to her YouTube, get some merch, get the magazine.
Speaker: And we love this.
Speaker: So I just want to say thank you for being here.
Speaker: I'm truly grateful for this episode and the transparency that we shared and continue to extend, continue to help the planet and the universe evolve as you evolve yourself.
Speaker: And this was a beautiful Bigger Talks discussion.
Speaker: Thank you.
