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Rob's Reviews: Snatch
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Illegal boxing promoter Turkish (Jason Statham) convinces gangster Brick Top (Alan Ford) to offer bets on bare-knuckle boxer Mickey (Brad Pitt) at his bookie business. When Mickey does not throw his first fight as agreed, an infuriated Brick Top demands another match. Meanwhile, gangster Frankie Four Fingers (Benicio del Toro) comes to place a bet for a friend with Brick Top's bookies, as multiple criminals converge on a stolen diamond that Frankie has come to London to sell.
Release date: January 19, 2001 (USA)
Director: Guy Ritchie
Distributed by: Columbia Pictures, Sony Pictures Releasing, Screen Gems
Budget: $10 million
Music by: John Murphy
Produced by: Matthew Vaughn
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Transcript
Introduction and Overview of 'Snatch'
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Welcome back listeners to another exciting episode here at Matt goes to the movies.
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We are back in the extended podcast universe for a little slice of the internet.
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We call Rob's reviews tonight.
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We are taking it back to the year 2000 for Guy Ritchie's second feature film snatch set in the sea, the underworld of London snatch features two main plots that at times dance around and then straight through each other while really making excellent use of its ensemble cast best described as a crime comedy.
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It released on December 6th in the U.S. to a final box office return of $83.6 million against a budget of $10 million.
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Currently sitting at a 74% critical rating and a 93% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes, Snatch is a film I routinely find myself recommending to anyone who tells me they've never seen it.
Co-host Introductions and Backgrounds
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So to help break it down with me, I'm happy to be back with the Tommy to my Turkish, the Rosebud to my cousin Avi, my younger brother Eric.
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Eric, welcome back to the show.
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I'm not really a big fan.
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You always give me the Robin role when there's... I just don't like it.
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That's the point.
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So, Eric, we have another co-host with us tonight.
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Someone who has been a reoccurring character here on the Matt Goes to the Movies podcast network.
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I've recently mentioned him as someone who actually defends the live-action Super Mario Brothers movie.
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So I suppose take that...
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Take that into consideration when listening to his opinions.
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But I am happy to welcome for his first appearance on the show, my buddy BJ.
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BJ, welcome to the show.
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Really excited to have you.
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It's kind of funny because I've described...
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the version of Matt goes to the movies when Matt and I are on together, it's, it's almost like we kind of been doing that show for a couple of years before he ever actually recorded something on and put it on the air.
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Cause that's just kind of what it sounded like when we would,
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do it.
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And really, that kind of almost started, you know, when you and I were just driving around Youngstown, Ohio, hanging out.
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And this is this is kind of what we did.
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So I'm really excited that you get to join us on air and and break down this movie.
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So yeah, let's introduce yourself to our listeners.
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Well, hi, everybody.
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My name is BJ, short for Bernard Joseph.
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And I am really excited to be here, Rob.
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I'm really excited to join in on your show here.
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I've been listening, you know, here and there.
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But you're kind of starting me off two strikes in the hole, aren't you?
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It's like first thing, he defends the live-action Super Mario Brothers movie.
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I defend it on the grounds that they took...
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a a risky shot you know they they tried to do something i'm not saying it worked they tried to turn a basically storyless video game into something that had like a breathing world behind it i'm not gonna say it worked but i mean that's a hell of a venture for sure very brave yeah for sure
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Rob and I do go all the way back to college.
Personal Reflections on 'Snatch' and College Memories
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We were, God, 19, 18 when we met, and we wasted so much time discussing everything under the sun and random about the different kinds of movies that we enjoyed, including the one that we're talking about tonight.
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That was a formative film for me and Rob early in our friendship.
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And yeah, I just think it's really cool to get the chance to come back and chat for your audience about it.
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Yeah, really looking forward to it.
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What's funny, BJ, and I don't know if you realize this, but this movie actually came out within like two or three months of when you and I met for the first time.
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So I just think that's kind of cool that we ended up choosing this.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, doesn't this happen like right at your freshman year of college pretty much?
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It did actually.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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December of, uh, of, uh, 2000.
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So that kind of shows everybody who's listening exactly how old I am.
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And how old is BJ Sue?
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The year 2000, that was seven years ago, right?
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Yes.
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Well, yeah.
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The 90s were only 10 years ago.
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I said this last one we did.
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Yeah, I'll die on that hill for sure.
Star Wars Film Rankings and Analysis
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So, BJ, since this is your first appearance on the show, Matt started the Matt Goes to the Movies show with basically just sitting around, talking into the bottom of his phone, talking about the Skywalker saga, and has certainly grown and grown and grown from there.
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So in the spirit of how the show started and to kind of give listeners an idea of who you are and the kinds of things that you like, I would love for you to share your Star Wars movie power rankings with the audience.
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By the way, there is one film in particular that if it's rated too high, I'm just going to cut the recording and that'll just be the end of it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, I'm happy to do so.
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So first thing, does anyone ever not have Attack of the Clones at the bottom?
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I don't think so.
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And not if they are doing it right.
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I mean, I think objectively it's just the worst, right?
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Rise of Skywalker, the bottom for me.
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You know, that's one whole other topic for a whole other day.
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But the opinion on Rise of Skywalker of the general public continues to get worse and worse.
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It just, it does.
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The further away from the release of that movie we get, the more people seem to dislike it.
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You know, which is weird because it's typically the opposite, isn't it?
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It's like, you know, people tend to relax their standards over time and they appreciate something after some time has passed.
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But I think it was just a kind of a stinker.
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The prequels in Hayden Christensen are nowhere near as hated now as they had been previously.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Particularly after Obi-Wan.
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People were actually starting to appreciate The Phantom Menace in Jar Jar Binks.
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I made that second part.
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You did.
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No, I know some fans who are younger who do actually appreciate Jar Jar.
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Well, that was the other thing is like, you know, and I hate the gatekeeping.
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Star Wars is pretty notorious for the gatekeeping and fandom.
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The worst.
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If I've said it once, I've said it a million times.
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Nobody hates Star Wars like people who love Star Wars.
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Yeah, right.
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And so like whatever you like, you like, man.
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And there has to be a last place.
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I'm sorry.
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It's not that I hate Rise of Skywalker.
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It's just it's not favorite, you know.
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I've got Attack of Clones at the bottom.
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I've got Phantom Menace just ahead of that because the ridiculously awesome Darth Maul versus Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan lightsaber fight cannot save that film.
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Now, I put Solo in next.
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So I suppose, wait a minute, if we're counting Solo and Rogue One, that would make it number... Nine.
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Number nine, yes.
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Number nine Solo.
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Then I have Rise of Skywalker at number eight because...
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While that movie misses just about every pitch, the ones that it hits, it drives pretty well.
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Rise of Skywalker is a collection of bad moments strung together.
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But when you get a good moment, it's a pretty solid payoff was my feel on that one.
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I like that.
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I can agree with that.
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I do Force Awakens next because while I really enjoyed Force Awakens, it's just it's so it's on the wrong side of the homage line.
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It's on the wrong side of the homage line for me because it's just the same movie as New Hope.
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so many questions that never got answered that I'm angry at that movie about, or at least were never answered on screen.
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They answered how the heck Maz Kanata got the saber from Bespin, but they didn't do it on screen, so I hate them.
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J.J.
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Abrams did his thing, and there was a lot that was cool with his thing, even though his thing was way too close to George Lucas's thing.
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Rian Johnson comes in and does his thing, and Rian Johnson does his thing brilliantly,
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but clumsily.
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And then the reaction to Last Jedi was just so bad from so many people.
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Like who?
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Okay, so I had Force Awakens then.
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Then I go to Revenge of the Sith because the Obi-Wan, Anakin, Mustafar lightsaber fight does save that film.
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Yeah, that has unbelievable – that duel, just the way that it was filmed, the way that it was staged, it was hyperdramatic.
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It was over the top.
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There are moments in the late part of that movie, in the third act of that movie, where you're seeing Anakin become Vader that are really solid moments.
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And, you know, it's becoming gauche to hate on Hayden Christensen these days because he has done...
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more work since then in the sw as anakin that sort of shows you when you give him good dialogue yeah and you give him good direction he's gonna do fine you know uh a great actor can't overcome writing and direction
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Well, the only actor in the whole trilogy who was, as I like to say, able to turn chicken shit into chicken salad was... You and Rune McGregor.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Because Natalie Portman, great actress.
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She's floundering.
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Samuel L. Jackson, great actor.
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He's floundering.
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So after Revenge, I do put Last Jedi there, Rob.
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I put Last Jedi, I suppose, in fifth.
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That's your top five.
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That's our show, everybody.
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Good night.
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Have a wonderful time.
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I recognize all the clunk and all the potholes in Rian Johnson's script, which is so weird to me because from watching Knives Out and Glass Onion, you know he can write tight.
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You know he can write complicated.
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But there was just like, it missed his script for TLJ, like missed its final editing pass.
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There was clunk all over that script.
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And it derailed in a lot of ways what was such a great shift in themes.
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And it forces you to go back.
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And look at Luke, and you understand that his failure as a teacher was inevitable.
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There's too much of his father in him.
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It's been there right from 1977.
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Call it destiny, call it genetics, call it the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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It just shows you that Luke and Anakin as young men are very similar.
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Luke is, of course, not subjected to a childhood of slavery.
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So that's some trauma that he doesn't have to wade through.
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But they're both brash.
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They're both leap before you look.
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They're shoot first, shoot later, shoot some more, and maybe ask a few questions.
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But it shows that they are both totally susceptible to the dark side, to that moment of weakness.
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Luke had much greater support around him in the persons of, say, Han and Leia.
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You know, Leia, who is morally upright.
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He was he still had that Skywalker thing that caused him to have that moment of failure that just compounded itself into the disaster of Ben, you know, waking up right at that moment, you know, that that that betrayal.
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And that is why Luke was just sort of destined to fail.
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But the thing about the Jedi lineage, all of the teachers fail.
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Yoda fails.
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Obi-Wan fails.
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They all fail.
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But in their failure, they get the next generation to succeed.
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And Luke just continues that tradition because he had his failure, but he is able to get Rey to succeed.
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So that theme just continues through.
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And Rey, nobody, Rey being nobody was one of the best thematic choices.
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That was the best part, yeah.
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Oh, I got so mad.
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I got so mad when Palpatine survived.
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Somehow Palpatine returned.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah, that was, of all the things I disliked about Last Jedi, the thing I liked most was they just made her nobody.
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I love that.
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I wish they would have kept that.
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Anyway.
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To finish up, I got Rogue One in spot number four because I can't put it above any of the original trilogy.
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I just can't.
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There's something in me that won't let me do that.
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But Rogue One is fully diesel, fantastic movie.
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The way that they got you to care about this collection of scamps, this full-on collection of – you've never heard of these guys.
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There's no mythology for any of these guys.
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And Chirrut Imwe and Baze Malbus and they just show up out of nowhere and you're just like, I am having feelings about what is happening.
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And then for the top, I go Return of the Jedi, New Hope, Empire.
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But that is my Star Wars ranking.
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Clones, Phantom, Solo, Rise of Skywalker, Force Awakens, Revenge of the Sith, Last Jedi, Rogue One, Return of the Jedi, New Hope, Empire.
In-Depth Discussion on 'Snatch'
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Now that we've kind of got your ranking, it'll give people sort of an idea of your perspective and things like that.
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You guys want to go ahead and talk about Snatch?
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So now that we've got that double entendre out of the way, we're going to go into a spoiler free segment.
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So if you've gotten this far and you're curious about this movie, maybe you've never seen it.
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I would chastise you, but that's just not really my thing.
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And you're trying to figure out, should you watch this?
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I don't know really that it's streaming anywhere right now.
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It's not on any of the really easily accessible streaming sites, I guess, is what I would say.
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So BJ, I'm going to, as our first time guest, I'd like you to kind of go first.
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Spoiler free, what would you say to a person who has never seen this movie to entice them to watch it?
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What would you tell them about it?
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I would say that if you enjoy a crime caper with a lot of really snappy dialogue, snappy dialogue, then this is the movie for you.
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It's a very guy movie.
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I mean, this is...
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You know, we have like two female characters in the whole show.
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It is a quintessential guy movie in that it's peppy, it bounces along, it's got all these wonderful quotable lines.
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It's got this interweaving plot that, you know, really just dances pirouettes with your MacGuffin
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ending up all over the place, right?
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How many places does that darn diamond go that it's just super duper enjoyable with a very energetic cinematografical style?
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Did you just make up a word?
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I may have.
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Nailed it is what he did.
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I may have, but yeah, I mean, that's, that's Guy Ritchie.
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He's his, his camera is, is coked out of its mind, right?
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Like before filming any scene, Guy Ritchie just grinds up a bunch of Adderall and feeds it to his camera and he lets it go.
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Yeah.
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Actually, we're going to get into that later.
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Eric, what would you tell to somebody that has never seen this movie to get them into it?
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Think about,
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The term crime comedy, you mentioned it in our intro.
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Crime comedy, I'm not sure that there really was one of these before that.
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I mean, Ocean's Eleven, did that come out before Snatch?
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I don't know.
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That's another film that kind of kept coming up in my mind as I was thinking about this movie.
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Sort of the Brad Pitt connection is there, but yeah, it fits.
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Oceans was the sexy version, though.
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This is the we're going to sort of.
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That was the polished United States Hollywood version.
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This is the dirty streets of London version.
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I will say longtime listeners know I am a whore for heist movies.
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OK, I will absolutely get right down on my knees for a movie.
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Love it.
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Interestingly enough, this heist occurs right at the very beginning, and there's really not much of a heist after that.
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It's a lot of scampering and accounting for mistakes.
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There's a lot of nonsense afterwards.
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I think that this is, without a doubt,
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I mean, I'm just going to tell you right now, this is one of my most favorite films in my life.
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So I don't know what else to say besides that, because I think the most ringing endorsement I can give it is it's one of my most favorite movies in the history of my life.
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It's hard to do much better than that.
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So if I was to try to explain this to somebody and tell them why they needed to see it,
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I love how characters are just kind of introduced and plot lines just seem to pop up nearly randomly every few minutes.
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And all of these are just like somewhat loosely connected.
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This pacing is so fast.
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It really just keeps the movie moving throughout.
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You never really know what characters the story is going to focus on next.
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And because of the pace, you don't realize just how connected the whole thing is until the very last scene.
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And I absolutely love this about this movie.
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But what really occurred to me on my most recent rewatch of this is that this really at times is almost like sketch comedy with scumbags.
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Like each scene is kind of its own standalone.
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It's like they can have a whole film is like an anthology, isn't it?
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Like until the timelines meet up, right?
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Like until the plot connects everybody together.
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Because at that point, then it really explodes.
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You talk about like innocuous ingredients and chemistry like this thing by itself is not dangerous.
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And this thing by itself is not dangerous.
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Mix them and you nuke your kitchen.
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You know, like that's that's this movie.
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Yeah.
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Each scene really, I mean, it just kind of is almost its own standalone thing that has laugh out loud moments and almost every single one.
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So it's really like, like I said, I mean, if you imagine like, like if SML just focused on the London underground, you could almost do it this way.
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And it would, it would work.
00:19:51
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So that's kind of about as much, I think, as we can say about this movie guys without getting too much into spoilers.
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So listeners from here on out, we're in full on spoiler mode.
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And we're going to move into our next segment called Least and Likes.
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So what we're going to talk about is what works well in this movie.
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Maybe if there's something that doesn't work well, you can get to it.
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What is your favorite scene?
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And BJ, we're going to start with you.
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We're in full spoiler mode now.
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So what works for this movie?
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Why is this a movie that we decided we wanted to cover?
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And if you also have a favorite scene, go ahead and give us that when you're done.
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there are so many things that work in this movie that i could you know if i were to enumerate them all i'd be sitting here for four hours but i just watched the movie yeah yeah it's like that worked that worked that worked that worked that worked that worked anyway worked a lot yeah it's
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I think one of the first, one of the things that, you know, when I sat down to rewatch this in prep for coming on here, something that sort of jumped out at me that I hadn't seen before.
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I mean, I'd obviously seen it, but I'd never really thought about it.
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It's just how innocuous the beginning of the movie is.
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Right?
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Because if you have an expectation of Guy Ritchie's work, frenetic camera, big noises, big sounds, cars exploding, well, that's more Michael Bay, but you get what I'm saying, right?
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Hyper energetic.
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The up and down, there's quiet moments.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But this movie opens just with three guys in a room.
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Turkish on his inner monologue, right?
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And there's nothing much going on.
00:21:46
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And they're just talking about something.
00:21:48
Speaker
They're sort of spooling out a little trail of information for you.
00:21:51
Speaker
What do I know about diamonds, you know?
00:21:53
Speaker
Absolutely worked for me is Frankie Fourfingers, Hasidic Jew coming in.
00:22:03
Speaker
You know, and then it just stays in this very mellow kind of pace all through the credits and everything.
00:22:11
Speaker
Right.
00:22:12
Speaker
And then when Frankie rips off his fake belly and there's the guns on the, you know, the sort of shoulder, the chest placard that he's wearing, that's when it just goes full guy.
00:22:24
Speaker
Richie, you've got your camera spinning around.
00:22:26
Speaker
You've got hard rock underneath.
00:22:28
Speaker
You've got people pointing those guns at people in very unfriendly ways.
00:22:34
Speaker
You know, it starts off with this very subtle sort of, we're just going to watch this little movie.
00:22:40
Speaker
It's going to be, oh, look, here's some Jewish guys talking about theology.
00:22:44
Speaker
And then suddenly, you know, and then you're just you're off to the races so fast once they get into the back room at the jewelers, right?
00:22:56
Speaker
Yeah.
00:22:57
Speaker
I love this opening, just when you get the Orthodox Jews crossing over the security cameras.
00:23:03
Speaker
And I really noticed on this watch, just how much that security camera motif kind of plays.
00:23:09
Speaker
That theme is everywhere.
00:23:11
Speaker
Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.
00:23:12
Speaker
So much of this movie is you seeing it through security cameras.
00:23:18
Speaker
It's kind of wild.
00:23:20
Speaker
The next thing that I absolutely love that's full on work for me is the character title cards.
00:23:27
Speaker
Because you get the character title cards in this goofy montage, right?
00:23:33
Speaker
But the montage also sets up your backing story and establishes your character relationships.
00:23:38
Speaker
Because during Mickey's title card, he's got a purse.
00:23:44
Speaker
And he tosses it to Vincent.
00:23:47
Speaker
And Vincent pulls out a handful of moody gold for his title card.
00:23:56
Speaker
And in the first scene where you're actually seeing Vincent, he's talking about where'd you get the dog?
00:24:02
Speaker
Saul's asking him.
00:24:04
Speaker
He says the gypsies threw it in with a load of moody gold.
00:24:08
Speaker
The way that those title cards come in and it just...
00:24:12
Speaker
It's something that you almost have to do as a director because you've got this cast of like 20 characters that you're going to have to keep track of.
00:24:20
Speaker
And it's also sort of Guy Ritchie presenting, look, this is going to be a movie.
00:24:26
Speaker
It's going to be fun.
00:24:28
Speaker
You know, he's just laying it out in this very presentational style of each character getting their own title card during this introductory montage.
00:24:37
Speaker
And that, for me, was something that really, really worked.
00:24:43
Speaker
Just to set the pace, to set the sort of mood of the movie, and to establish those...
00:24:52
Speaker
character interrelationships before we really even have any movement of the plot whatsoever.
00:24:59
Speaker
You know, I kind of noted that as well, that I this intro, just for whatever reason on this watch there really resonated like, wow, that's kind of interesting that it feels kind of an unconventional way because we've met
00:25:12
Speaker
two of these characters, three of these characters, really, before this montage starts, we're pretty much introduced to the whole ensemble before we ever actually meet the character themselves.
00:25:22
Speaker
And it's just such a cool way of making that move through where they're passing that next object and the object turns into something else when it gets tossed off screen.
00:25:30
Speaker
I really dig it.
00:25:32
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
00:25:34
Speaker
Other things that worked for me, some couple minor detail type things rather than sort of like broad overarching theme stuff.
00:25:42
Speaker
Brick Top's Coke bottle lenses in his glasses.
00:25:47
Speaker
When have you ever seen a character that you are supposed to be afraid of wearing something as ridiculous?
00:25:54
Speaker
He could see like all the moons of Pluto.
00:25:59
Speaker
As those absolute Coke bottle glasses.
00:26:05
Speaker
But here's this character wearing this nerdiest of facial appliances, right?
00:26:14
Speaker
And the first scene that you get with him, or I can't recall exactly what, he absolutely chills your blood.
00:26:23
Speaker
Brick top's Coke bottle glasses.
00:26:26
Speaker
The simplicity of what gets Turkish involved in all this.
00:26:32
Speaker
He just wants a caravan.
00:26:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:38
Speaker
That's the genesis of really the movie.
00:26:41
Speaker
He just, he just wants a caravan.
00:26:44
Speaker
He wants something reasonable to do business out of.
00:26:49
Speaker
All this other stuff could have gone on without his involvement in any way, shape or form.
00:26:56
Speaker
But he just wanted a caravan.
00:26:58
Speaker
And then everything hits the fan after that.
00:27:02
Speaker
So where does he actually park this?
00:27:03
Speaker
Is that like under a bridge?
00:27:04
Speaker
I've always been trying to look into that.
00:27:06
Speaker
Bridge-ish, right?
00:27:08
Speaker
Yeah, I wondered.
00:27:10
Speaker
It's such a humble request.
00:27:13
Speaker
Everybody else wants this.
00:27:16
Speaker
I love the word.
00:27:16
Speaker
Everybody else comes into it wanting this diamond the size of a fist and Turkish just wants a caravan.
00:27:25
Speaker
He's in a business place.
00:27:28
Speaker
This poor guy.
00:27:30
Speaker
He can't get it.
00:27:31
Speaker
He's just trying to reasonably run a criminal enterprise.
00:27:34
Speaker
I mean, God damn.
00:27:37
Speaker
Other things that I like, Dennis Farina as a nebbishy character.
00:27:42
Speaker
Isn't he right?
00:27:44
Speaker
Dennis Farina almost always plays like a bonafide tough guy but cousin Avi in this is just impatient and nudgy and just so annoying.
00:27:58
Speaker
He carries it all.
00:27:59
Speaker
Nudgy is a good word.
00:28:00
Speaker
I like that.
00:28:01
Speaker
He carries it off.
00:28:03
Speaker
Mickey's pack, especially Blue Windbreaker Guy, who I believe is named Darren, because Mickey is always seen consorting with his five or six pikey fellows, and they always just lean their heads in together.
00:28:17
Speaker
And it seems to me like Blue Windbreaker Guy is sort of like Mickey's lieutenant.
00:28:21
Speaker
He's like the number two pikey in command.
00:28:23
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:25
Speaker
And he just has some small moments here and there, the Blue Windbreaker Guy and the other pack of pikeys.
00:28:31
Speaker
that are just really, really, they're minor, but they're so tasty.
00:28:37
Speaker
Avi's flight montage, the sequence of shots, popping a pill, the taxi, right?
00:28:44
Speaker
That sequence of three or four exact same shots that they play whenever cousin Avi flies, and it happens, I think, three times in the film, including the very one.
00:28:55
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:55
Speaker
Brilliant.
00:28:56
Speaker
I absolutely loved that.
00:28:59
Speaker
My favorite scene compositionally, like what the camera is doing is,
00:29:07
Speaker
is when bullet tooth Tony has Saul on the ground.
00:29:14
Speaker
And this is when Boris the bullet, Boris the bullet dodger, that scene, because Mr. Desert Eagle point five oh is foreshortened to the camera.
00:29:25
Speaker
So it looks as big as a tree branch, muscled right next to Saul's head.
00:29:35
Speaker
while bullet tooth Tony is interrogating him and cousin Avi sort of like cranes his head down into the shot, you know?
00:29:44
Speaker
So Avi is going between Saul's head, which dominates the bottom third of the frame, bottom right hand third.
00:29:52
Speaker
And the middle and top left hand third is just Mr. Desert Eagle point five.
00:29:58
Speaker
Oh, like it's in our own character.
00:30:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:04
Speaker
He's accredited role in the show.
00:30:07
Speaker
He's actually out there holding signs up right now.
00:30:12
Speaker
He's on the picket line.
00:30:13
Speaker
He's on the picket lines, Mr. Desert Eagle Point 5-0.
00:30:18
Speaker
Yeah, Mr. Desert Eagle.50 played by Desert Eagle.50.
00:30:24
Speaker
And you've got, you know, Avi, who's sort of moving his head between being right up in Saul's grill and looking up at Bullet Tooth Tony.
00:30:35
Speaker
But you've got this tight camera, right, on all three of their heads.
00:30:40
Speaker
And just compositionally, the way that this shot was put together was absolutely gorgeous to me.
00:30:46
Speaker
I loved that.
00:30:48
Speaker
Boris's little dance when he gets out of the trunk of the car.
00:30:53
Speaker
He's got the bag.
00:30:55
Speaker
He's kind of like bitching a little bit, right?
00:30:58
Speaker
He's like kind of on his own monologue and internal monologue, but it somehow comes out out loud.
00:31:05
Speaker
Yeah, he gets out of the trunk of the car and he's in the street and he's just sort of very tentatively stepping around because he's got the bag on his head still.
00:31:15
Speaker
He's still tied up to his wrists are bound together.
00:31:18
Speaker
Yeah, he's tied up.
00:31:20
Speaker
The bag is on his head and he's kind of tentatively stepping around like he's trying to find the curb or something to just locate where he is.
00:31:29
Speaker
By the way, beautiful use of music in this.
00:31:33
Speaker
moment yes so you're talking yes and uh that was uh another thing that really really worked for me uh last thing that really worked for me that i want to get into is the abrupt flip of the end credits music because it goes to the what is it called don't you just know it
00:31:55
Speaker
have that this real old-timey rock and roll song like that's back when it was called rock and roll it wasn't rock it wasn't rock and roll it was rock and roll you know back in that 50s chubby checker sort of joint
00:32:16
Speaker
And just, it is so contrary to the vibe of the rest of the movie, because it's just this sort of joyous, goofy, you know, sort of bopping tune.
00:32:29
Speaker
And it immediately serves as just sort of a wake up, you know, sort of a palate cleanse for the craziness that you have just been through.
00:32:38
Speaker
The only thing it shares with the rest of the movie is that concept of craziness.
00:32:43
Speaker
because it's this abrupt shift into this very antiquated sort of music.
00:32:50
Speaker
But I absolutely loved that.
00:32:52
Speaker
I have a couple of things that did not work for me.
00:32:55
Speaker
Just a couple.
00:32:57
Speaker
Before we get into those, what's your favorite scene overall?
00:32:59
Speaker
Or was it the bullet tooth Tony one you were talking about?
00:33:02
Speaker
Well, compositionally, it is the bullet tooth Tony one that I'm the one with desert.
00:33:07
Speaker
Like that's my favorite visual scene probably.
00:33:10
Speaker
Dialogue wise, I do not know that I could pick.
00:33:14
Speaker
It's a lot.
00:33:14
Speaker
It's so hard.
00:33:16
Speaker
Yeah, it's like an embarrassment of riches.
00:33:18
Speaker
It is so hard to pick.
00:33:21
Speaker
a favorite scene dialogue wise um you have given that your guns have replica written on the side you have uh yeah you that that right there people ask me what does it look like when you roll a natural 20 on an intimidate check that is what it looks like
00:33:49
Speaker
But what does it look like when you roll a natural 20 on an intimidate check?
00:33:55
Speaker
And the answer is that scene, Vinnie Jones, snatch.
00:34:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:34:03
Speaker
Ought to precipitate you into shrinking along with your presence.
00:34:08
Speaker
But the few things that didn't work for me, the final leg has a bit of a letdown.
00:34:17
Speaker
I feel like because you have a resolution of sorts on the diamond chase, but you still have to handle Mickey's fight, right?
00:34:28
Speaker
That the way that that, cause the, the, the, the clip is so frenetic during the diamond chase and things are coming so fast and so crazy and Avi pull your socks up, right?
00:34:42
Speaker
All this crazy stuff.
00:34:45
Speaker
And then just anything after that is gonna feel like a little bit of a letdown.
00:34:50
Speaker
And I kind of feel that way about the ending leading into Mickey's fight.
00:34:57
Speaker
The fight was shot so beautifully because if there's one thing that Guy Ritchie loves, it's underground boxing with slow motion because in the first Sherlock, he had that great scene with Robert Downey Jr. Guy Ritchie loves that.
00:35:14
Speaker
but it just, it was almost impossible to keep the insane energy of the chase going.
00:35:20
Speaker
So I feel like there's a mild let down there.
00:35:24
Speaker
Conspicuous timing.
00:35:26
Speaker
And I don't mean the crossing of the different paths during the chase.
00:35:31
Speaker
I mean that Mickey knew exactly when his boys were gonna make the move at the campsite.
00:35:41
Speaker
And connected that in the fight somehow and exactly when Bricktop was going to come out.
00:35:48
Speaker
And just that is a case of conspicuous timing for me that I'm just like, eh.
00:35:54
Speaker
But, you know, again, this is this is a mild complaint that I have.
00:35:59
Speaker
I think my biggest complaint is that with a hyper kinetic style like Guy Ritchie uses in this movie and all of his movies, it can sometimes become self-indulgent, right?
00:36:13
Speaker
Sometimes that twirling camera is just twirling rather than twirling productively.
00:36:21
Speaker
I feel like where they got to that point in this movie was the pikey wake.
00:36:26
Speaker
The pikey wake for me was self-indulgent and maybe it's just because the scene of Mickey watching the camper burn while his boys try to hold him back with angel going underneath massive attacks, angel.
00:36:45
Speaker
Maybe it's just because that was so effective that the pikey wake feels like
00:36:55
Speaker
It feels like self-indulgent is the best way.
00:36:58
Speaker
I feel like it was insincere.
00:37:01
Speaker
He's my only boy and he's a good boy.
00:37:04
Speaker
I loved her too.
00:37:06
Speaker
I loved his mom.
00:37:07
Speaker
She was adorable.
00:37:08
Speaker
She was wonderful.
00:37:09
Speaker
I loved her.
00:37:10
Speaker
I hope she's living a peaceful life, whoever that actor is.
00:37:15
Speaker
But that is the long and short of what I thought really worked best and the few things that I thought didn't work.
00:37:23
Speaker
All right.
00:37:23
Speaker
All good stuff.
00:37:25
Speaker
I'm with you on so many of those things that you said that really worked well for you.
00:37:30
Speaker
Eric, what do you have that might be different from anything BJ mentioned?
00:37:33
Speaker
So I liked some of the... I mean, obviously, this is almost like an anthology series.
00:37:39
Speaker
I think that that device, in terms of storytelling, is really cool, especially when they allow it to collide.
00:37:53
Speaker
dramatically and organically into this huge train wreck.
00:37:59
Speaker
And that's really part of what is so cool about the plot twist in this film for the most part.
00:38:07
Speaker
Because it's a heist movie, sort of.
00:38:10
Speaker
Rob described it as a criminal comedy, which I don't know if that term was ever used before Snatch came out.
00:38:18
Speaker
But I think that's the absolute best description of it.
00:38:22
Speaker
But you're talking about a handful of different character sets who are interacting with themselves and then all of a sudden with one other character set and then boom, they've meshed and melded together.
00:38:37
Speaker
I think it's really cool.
00:38:41
Speaker
The hair coursing with, you know, I bet the rabbit gets fornicated, as Tommy says.
00:38:50
Speaker
Proper fornicate.
00:38:51
Speaker
Yes, proper fornicate.
00:38:53
Speaker
So they show that and they also have like a certain jump cut with from like dogs chasing down a hare to underground London thugs chasing down people who robbed a bookies.
00:39:10
Speaker
and i think there's some foreshadowing there that's really cool that it's like hey we're gonna combine all these people it's almost like a soap opera right like where there's just so many different characters and situations but they somehow all interact together and it's meaningful in a way um but the the editing is extremely good um
00:39:32
Speaker
I'm going to BJ brought that up a couple of times, but like the fight scenes work so well.
00:39:38
Speaker
They, they cut these really, really well with how they laid the track, uh, and the Foley artists, you know, they do great too.
00:39:47
Speaker
Um, but the, just the soundtrack and, and then I'm biased, obviously it's a music guy, but.
00:39:54
Speaker
All of that, almost like the Rube Goldberg moments when Boris escapes, BJ mentioned, he kind of gets out of the trunk.
00:40:03
Speaker
There's so many different things that are happening.
00:40:06
Speaker
Tommy's throwing the milk out the window and it's causing somebody's windshield to get covered.
00:40:11
Speaker
And all of a sudden, Rosebud has a sword in his chest.
00:40:15
Speaker
But there's some silly nonsense that happens, but it never ever feels like it's too much.
00:40:21
Speaker
The scene in the bookies...
00:40:23
Speaker
That's like cartoonish almost how terrible they are at being criminals.
00:40:28
Speaker
It's almost cartoonish, but it doesn't ever for me cross the line where it's like the suspension of disbelief is violated.
00:40:36
Speaker
It's not there.
00:40:37
Speaker
I think it's, I think it gets a little close though.
00:40:40
Speaker
Like at times you're just like, how are these guys career criminals?
00:40:43
Speaker
Most of these guys suck at crime.
00:40:45
Speaker
Yes, they do.
00:40:46
Speaker
And they are so fricking close to that line where it's just like, I don't believe this anymore.
00:40:51
Speaker
It's right there.
00:40:53
Speaker
I think that that actually is some expertise, though, in filmmaking.
00:40:57
Speaker
Well, you know what it is.
00:40:58
Speaker
You know what it is.
00:41:00
Speaker
There's the scene where bad boy Lincoln comes in, right?
00:41:03
Speaker
He's a bad boy Yardy, which I had to Google, by the way.
00:41:06
Speaker
That means that he's pretty much a super thug criminal murderer.
00:41:11
Speaker
But go ahead.
00:41:12
Speaker
And he comes in, and he's trying to sell the Moissanite.
00:41:15
Speaker
And...
00:41:19
Speaker
And Saul says to him, you stick to being a gang star.
00:41:22
Speaker
Leave this game for Vince.
00:41:25
Speaker
So Saul and Vince are brilliant as jewelry guys, fences, pawn guys.
00:41:33
Speaker
But then they try to go off road.
00:41:35
Speaker
They get out of their lane.
00:41:37
Speaker
They try to be active criminals instead of passive criminals.
00:41:41
Speaker
They try to do what they discouraged Lincoln from doing.
00:41:46
Speaker
Right.
00:41:47
Speaker
And the results of them are disastrous.
00:41:50
Speaker
By the way, that the whole bookies robbery is it's almost seen perfection because you can't get like, if you were to watch that scene,
00:42:02
Speaker
from beginning to end and you're honest with yourself, I don't think you can say that you had any expectations that weren't met or exceeded from that scene.
00:42:12
Speaker
It was extremely well done.
00:42:14
Speaker
I love that scene.
00:42:15
Speaker
I'll tell you what I love most.
00:42:17
Speaker
I think somebody mentioned already, but the absolute blasé attitude of the woman that's working the bookies when Solomon Vincent tried to rob the place.
00:42:25
Speaker
I love that character.
00:42:27
Speaker
She just needed her moment.
00:42:29
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:42:30
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:31
Speaker
She's fantastic.
00:42:32
Speaker
Yeah, she's hardcore.
00:42:34
Speaker
Eric, anything else before we wrap this segment up?
00:42:38
Speaker
I don't have anything that I really didn't like, to be honest.
00:42:41
Speaker
I mean, some of the stuff about... Oh, what is your favorite scene?
00:42:44
Speaker
Well, ultimately, my most favorite scene is really The Last Bite because it was cut so well.
00:42:50
Speaker
I think the...
00:42:52
Speaker
again, the editing, this is like, I don't know that I've really ever talked about like the editing of a film until this one, as far as our podcast goes, but they did that really well.
00:43:04
Speaker
They made it believable.
00:43:06
Speaker
All of the fun things are really, really well done and well cut.
00:43:11
Speaker
I think, but the last one,
00:43:13
Speaker
They ventured into some strange fight club territory, which is not completely out of the realm of believability in terms of Mickey being Tyler Durden, and you know, same guy.
00:43:28
Speaker
It's just, it worked really well when he gets just uppercutted and he's just floating parallel to the canvas.
00:43:37
Speaker
And then all of a sudden he splashes into water.
00:43:41
Speaker
And it's just, it's cut well.
00:43:43
Speaker
They put some really snappy audio with it in terms of like the Foley artists hitting like that meaty fist to body sound.
00:43:56
Speaker
The one that I loved there, the one that I loved, the one that I loved, Eric, was the one that sounded like a high tension wire snapping.
00:44:04
Speaker
Just ripping apart.
00:44:05
Speaker
Yeah, I know exactly what we're talking about.
00:44:07
Speaker
And that was like, I think it was like the final, I forgot before Brad Pitt went,
00:44:12
Speaker
yeah i don't i don't know but 180 degrees to the ground that was they did it once or twice and it sounded like an airplane cable snapping and it was like it sounds like it's it's very serious in terms of the audio and what they're trying to convey in the fight scenes it's really really great so the final fight scene i think probably if i had to pick one most favorite scene that would be it
00:44:38
Speaker
So I'm surprised we haven't talked about this yet.
Brad Pitt's Performance and Character Roles
00:44:41
Speaker
Brad Pitt's characterization for Mickey the Pikey is absolutely incredible.
00:44:47
Speaker
I think it's some of his best work, but it rarely gets brought up as such.
00:44:50
Speaker
Like when you talk about Brad Pitt's career and you talk about some of his best work, almost nobody is going to talk about Mickey.
00:44:58
Speaker
But I feel like, oh my God, he just absolutely nails it.
00:45:02
Speaker
I mean, just even be able to consistently pull off that dialect alone is a challenge.
00:45:06
Speaker
How do you sell that?
00:45:07
Speaker
And he's sitting here trying to portray like the American equivalent of like a trailer trash English-Irish mix.
00:45:17
Speaker
He has no... The dialect is tough.
00:45:21
Speaker
Like Brad Pitt is a... He could teach a master class if he wanted to.
00:45:25
Speaker
And I don't know that enough people appreciate it because I think ultimately they're really salty about the fact that he has a high jawline.
00:45:32
Speaker
He's very attractive and he's cut...
00:45:34
Speaker
Unreasonably.
00:45:35
Speaker
Well, what I've- I'm jealous, but I also know that he's a great actor.
00:45:40
Speaker
What I've always said about Brad Pitt is that he's a character actor trapped in a leading man's body.
00:45:46
Speaker
Because he plays these goofy characters like Mickey.
00:45:50
Speaker
He plays, remember his character from 12 Monkeys where he was like totally nuts.
00:45:56
Speaker
He was brilliant doing that.
00:46:00
Speaker
Ocean's Eleven, I think, is another great example of what you just said.
00:46:02
Speaker
Wait, because he was always leading in those movies.
00:46:06
Speaker
He's a character that gets trapped in a leading man's body.
00:46:09
Speaker
Huh.
00:46:11
Speaker
That's one of the most profound things I've heard in a while.
00:46:14
Speaker
I'm going to have to think about that for a little bit.
00:46:16
Speaker
So we've talked about some other things at work.
00:46:19
Speaker
We've talked about cinematography a little bit.
00:46:21
Speaker
The fight at the campsite, I think the cinematography is just absolutely incredible.
00:46:24
Speaker
The use of slow motion, the choice to remove the background audio.
00:46:29
Speaker
It's just...
00:46:30
Speaker
Chef's kiss.
00:46:31
Speaker
Great filmmaking.
00:46:33
Speaker
There's so much great interaction between Vincent, Saul and Tyrone.
00:46:39
Speaker
When Tyrone's arguing with them about not eating in the car, he's just like, don't get it on my seats.
00:46:43
Speaker
Tyrone, this is a stolen car.
00:46:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:48
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:46:49
Speaker
And then he backs up and he hits the van.
00:46:50
Speaker
It was a funny angle.
00:46:51
Speaker
And he's talking about how that's what happens when you back up.
00:46:54
Speaker
Things come up from behind you.
00:46:55
Speaker
Almost every scene with the three of them is is just incredible.
00:46:59
Speaker
There's even like little subtle touches, like the blinking fluorescent light that you see up above when Turkish and Tommy go to speak to Bricktop.
00:47:08
Speaker
There's just there's so many layers of grime and fervor.
00:47:12
Speaker
filth that get added to this seedy underworld where literally every character is some kind of scumbag um i love when the three groups are driving and they cross paths unintentionally it's really good planning in the screenwriting phase on how something that's sort of loosely connected up to this point can come together but still have it make sense like a rude billberg isn't it
00:47:34
Speaker
Yeah, it kind of is almost because they have the blank goes off in the car, which kind of distracts them.
00:47:39
Speaker
And then you mentioned the milk and then everything just.
00:47:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:42
Speaker
And it just turns into Boris getting hit.
00:47:44
Speaker
And then Boris Almasatkin is out of the trunk and Rosbeth has a sword in his chest.
00:47:49
Speaker
And Boris, Boris doing his little dance to try and find the car.
00:47:53
Speaker
Oh, it's so good.
00:47:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:57
Speaker
There's a very frantic feel of the camera movement and the editing of Mickey's mom's funeral.
00:48:03
Speaker
You know, BJ, I hear what you're saying about how that's maybe a little bit.
00:48:06
Speaker
I really thought the technical filmmaking there was really pretty good.
00:48:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:48:11
Speaker
I was really into that.
00:48:14
Speaker
I think the emotion is different there, right?
00:48:17
Speaker
Like you can convey emotion with cinematography.
00:48:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:20
Speaker
And I think that that was part of that.
00:48:23
Speaker
I can't hate on the technical decisions, the technical know-how to put that scene together.
00:48:30
Speaker
It just felt like he went a little too far with his I will use my camera to force you to feel things.
00:48:41
Speaker
Well, yeah, that was a far different scene than anything else in the film.
00:48:45
Speaker
That was by itself a very unique...
00:48:49
Speaker
yeah it's a little it's a little incongruous yeah um i love the boxing match and i'll tell you what i love about it i think i love that which one the the final match yeah the final fantastic that dude by the way is yeah real thick like oh yeah i mean they picked the perfect looking guy for that i mean just a meaty just a meaty guy mf who probably can never find clothes that
00:49:16
Speaker
yeah yeah that guy does not wear a suit to work at all um straps the size of other people's thighs yeah um what i what i think i love most is just how it's made to appear that mickey is going along with the fix up until he doesn't um how many times do you really think that you know what's going on here and you don't yeah couple right i i just love that whole thing his first fight with gorgeous george
00:49:46
Speaker
the first time i saw that movie i never once expected him to just one hit ko gorgeous george he just dropped them like a sack of hammers went right down right into right into golden brown which is really so so great that one hit wallop the one hit quit and then that crazy psychedelic harpsichord sound in golden brown and it's just like okay
00:50:14
Speaker
Yeah, some great choices there overall.
00:50:17
Speaker
If I had to pick a favorite scene, it really is the scene in the pub with Bullet Tooth Tony, Saul, Vincent and Tyrone.
00:50:24
Speaker
Every time I've watched this movie, I've been looking forward to rewatching that scene, probably the most of anything.
00:50:29
Speaker
And I've seen this movie, you know, BJ, you and I have watched this movie probably dozens of times just together, let alone how many times I've seen it beyond that.
00:50:38
Speaker
And every time, you know, it still lands for me.
00:50:41
Speaker
It's still something I can't wait for it to happen.
00:50:43
Speaker
I love the way that Richie handles the camera and the editing, particularly on the replica and Desert Eagle 0.50.
00:50:51
Speaker
Because there's an audio that goes with it, right?
00:50:55
Speaker
Like he uses both film senses, audio and visual.
00:51:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:02
Speaker
Very, very well.
00:51:03
Speaker
It's unique.
00:51:04
Speaker
It's masterful.
00:51:06
Speaker
And honestly, 100 percent honestly, if I were holding a gun that said replica on the side and I were staring down the barrel of a gun that said Desert Eagle 0.50 on the side, I would probably say that is my favorite scene as well.
00:51:21
Speaker
So as far as things that don't work, I've got nothing, guys.
00:51:25
Speaker
I've got to be honest.
00:51:26
Speaker
I've loved this movie for so long.
00:51:29
Speaker
Certainly we talked about this with Star Wars.
00:51:31
Speaker
Nostalgia is kind of a fickle bitch.
00:51:34
Speaker
It's hard.
00:51:35
Speaker
She will influence and put her thumb on the scale so hard.
00:51:40
Speaker
I really don't have anything about this.
00:51:43
Speaker
And I'm like, yeah, I don't enjoy that about this movie.
00:51:45
Speaker
I don't either, so stop feeling bad about yourself.
00:51:47
Speaker
Yeah, if I had to pick a least favorite scene.
00:51:49
Speaker
I literally have not a single thing I don't like.
00:51:51
Speaker
Yeah, if I had to pick a least favorite scene just for the sake of picking one, I would say it's maybe when Mickey's mom has her camper burned down.
00:51:58
Speaker
And that's really, and it's not because it's not well done.
00:52:03
Speaker
The scene is actually very well executed.
00:52:06
Speaker
And I mean that both from an on-screen and behind-the-camera perspective.
00:52:10
Speaker
I think that Brad Pitt's work and Guy Ritchie's work in that scene are incredible and well done.
00:52:15
Speaker
Oh, he looks so super believable with his head-to-buddies, right?
00:52:18
Speaker
Like, he's got, his eyes are welling up.
00:52:22
Speaker
And then they're playing Angel by Massive Attack, which, by the way, is like one of the Hall of Fame best songs on the planet.
00:52:28
Speaker
And the use of it in that moment, like freaking phenomenal.
00:52:33
Speaker
It's really well done.
00:52:34
Speaker
And I think it's maybe just more that it's hard to watch because it is so well done.
00:52:39
Speaker
Just like, you know, just the horror of that.
00:52:41
Speaker
You're definitely onto something there when you're talking about, like, especially horror movies or anything with, like, dramatic violence and traumatic things.
00:52:51
Speaker
the realer it is, the harder it is to watch.
00:52:54
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:55
Speaker
So we're going to move on to our next segment.
Action and Language in 'Snatch'
00:52:58
Speaker
This is a segment you guys didn't know was coming because I'm going to have BJ.
00:53:02
Speaker
We're going to start with you.
00:53:03
Speaker
We're going to, we call this segment body count BJ.
00:53:07
Speaker
I would like you to guess, I'm going to give you over under, and you have to tell me if the body count in this movie is over under 30 over Eric.
00:53:18
Speaker
Is it over or under 30?
00:53:19
Speaker
I'm saying under.
00:53:21
Speaker
Eric, you would be correct.
00:53:22
Speaker
The actual body count in this movie is 26.
00:53:24
Speaker
I was going to even guess it was in the teens.
00:53:29
Speaker
Well, no, because there's all of Bricktop's guys at the end.
00:53:32
Speaker
That's where I was inflating.
00:53:34
Speaker
There's like less than a dozen in a van.
00:53:36
Speaker
And then they kill Liam with a, you know, he's a ruthless C-word with a bag over the face early on.
00:53:44
Speaker
But there's not a ton of killing.
00:53:47
Speaker
It does seem like when I tell you that it's 26, it does feel like it's more than that though, because you kind of associate everything that happens like in this movie, you just think it's like a whole criminal enterprise, right?
00:53:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:59
Speaker
That's not really like what gets focused on the whole time.
00:54:02
Speaker
This is actually like a London street gang.
00:54:04
Speaker
So our next segment is called F-bombathon.
00:54:07
Speaker
And it's a segment we've done pretty regularly.
00:54:09
Speaker
Mine though.
00:54:11
Speaker
If this is over for F-bombs, just give me the overs.
00:54:16
Speaker
You can say the over-under is 2.3 million, and I would stick the over.
00:54:23
Speaker
Shockingly.
00:54:24
Speaker
All right, Eric, I'm going to have you go first this time.
00:54:28
Speaker
I'm not going to give you an over-under.
00:54:29
Speaker
I just want you to guess.
00:54:30
Speaker
I looked it up.
00:54:31
Speaker
All right, so then, BJ, take a guess.
00:54:35
Speaker
What do you think it is?
00:54:36
Speaker
All right.
00:54:36
Speaker
Total for the film, not per minute.
00:54:38
Speaker
Total for the film.
00:54:39
Speaker
Yes.
00:54:39
Speaker
118.
00:54:39
Speaker
That's extremely good.
00:54:40
Speaker
That's very close.
00:54:42
Speaker
For 103 minute runtime.
00:54:43
Speaker
Go ahead, Rob.
00:54:44
Speaker
159 was the number I found.
00:54:45
Speaker
Wow.
00:54:46
Speaker
That's good for 1.56 F-bombs per minute.
00:55:01
Speaker
By the way, so like total F-bombs from, you know, the runtime is 137 on, according to Wikipedia.
00:55:10
Speaker
But if you're talking about the frequency, the Hertz, the F-bomb Hertz, actually, it moves up a couple dozen slots.
00:55:22
Speaker
It's ranked 114 at 1.56 per minute, which is impressive because that's like my vernacular there, one and a half F-bombs per minute.
00:55:31
Speaker
That is an impressive quantity of F-bombery.
00:55:35
Speaker
It is, yeah.
00:55:36
Speaker
So we've got a new segment we're doing for this episode, and we're going to call this criminal capability.
00:55:42
Speaker
This movie is full of bad guys.
00:55:44
Speaker
And every single person, every single character, for the most part, if not all of them.
00:55:50
Speaker
And some of them are good at their jobs and some of them are really bad at their jobs.
00:55:57
Speaker
BJ, I'd like you to go first.
00:55:59
Speaker
Who do you believe are the three most capable criminals, the best at being bad?
00:56:06
Speaker
Are we counting Bricktop?
00:56:07
Speaker
Because we're coming to him later in Dylan E.D.
00:56:09
Speaker
Bix.
00:56:10
Speaker
Yes.
00:56:10
Speaker
All over and over, everybody, I think.
00:56:12
Speaker
All right.
00:56:13
Speaker
The whole ensemble.
00:56:15
Speaker
See, I've got to... I'm actually not sure about including Bricktop because in the existing circumstances of the film, he is this major crime lord.
00:56:27
Speaker
So we know that he is capable.
00:56:30
Speaker
But the movie really is the course of his undoing.
00:56:35
Speaker
So I don't know exactly how he rates criminally capable there.
00:56:40
Speaker
It's the story of him getting guns.
00:56:43
Speaker
That is a tough question to make.
00:56:46
Speaker
Do you consider his ability prior to his download?
00:56:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:50
Speaker
So given that in mind, I feel like our A number one capable guy is Mr. Crit Hit Intimidation Check Bullet Tooth Tony.
00:57:01
Speaker
Oh, all right.
00:57:02
Speaker
Because in the course of the movie, we see him in flashback gets shot six times and not even care.
00:57:10
Speaker
We see him.
00:57:11
Speaker
Madonna.
00:57:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:13
Speaker
Oh, I love this trick.
00:57:15
Speaker
We see him whomp on just about everybody.
00:57:19
Speaker
We see him capably navigate.
00:57:23
Speaker
You know, because he's not just the muscle, he's hunting down the MacGuffin.
00:57:30
Speaker
You know, he's making connections.
00:57:32
Speaker
He's the bloodhound.
00:57:34
Speaker
He really is.
00:57:36
Speaker
He's hunting.
00:57:37
Speaker
He brings a lot to the table.
00:57:39
Speaker
I was conflicted on whether or not Boris the Blade goes in here, because Boris the Blade has some really strong moments.
00:57:48
Speaker
But he makes the terrible decision of hiring Vinny and Saul to go outside of their lane.
00:57:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:00
Speaker
So I don't know.
00:58:01
Speaker
I don't know if I can really give him criminal capability.
00:58:05
Speaker
I got two to finish off criminal capability here.
00:58:09
Speaker
One of them is going to cause some, maybe some disagreement, and one of them is going to be, I think you guys will fully agree with.
00:58:18
Speaker
Which should I go with first?
00:58:19
Speaker
Surprise me.
00:58:21
Speaker
Whatever you like.
00:58:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:23
Speaker
Okay.
00:58:23
Speaker
I'll go with agree with.
00:58:25
Speaker
Maybe the most capable criminal in all of this movie is the lady bookie.
00:58:33
Speaker
Nothing more hard than a chick with shaved at a number one razor length.
00:58:39
Speaker
I mean, you know, she's got, she's got a howitzer pointed in her face and
00:58:47
Speaker
Saul has like a freaking combat shotgun pointed in her face.
00:58:54
Speaker
It's like a Spass 12.
00:58:55
Speaker
It really is like it's yeah.
00:58:58
Speaker
And and she just is cool as a cucumber the whole go.
00:59:03
Speaker
All bets are off.
00:59:06
Speaker
She is just cool as a cucumber the whole time.
00:59:10
Speaker
The second.
00:59:12
Speaker
that Saul drops his guard.
00:59:15
Speaker
She yoinks his cannon, lets one off at him for good measure, and then locks the building down.
00:59:23
Speaker
Yoink, here's a hot one for you.
00:59:25
Speaker
Now I'm safe.
00:59:27
Speaker
I almost honestly like, let's go ahead and just fanfic, retcon this.
00:59:32
Speaker
She was personally interviewed and trained by Bricktop.
00:59:35
Speaker
Yeah, she was.
00:59:36
Speaker
I'm going to go ahead and say that Lady Bookie was the real mastermind.
00:59:44
Speaker
Lady Bookie, Bricktop, as soon as Bricktop would get off camera, he would call up Lady Bookie for instructions on what to do next.
00:59:52
Speaker
Wow, that's bold.
00:59:54
Speaker
That's my headcanon here.
00:59:55
Speaker
I like it.
00:59:56
Speaker
That's my headcanon.
00:59:58
Speaker
Hard to argue with.
00:59:59
Speaker
All right, so what's the one that you think we might disagree on?
01:00:04
Speaker
Tyrone.
01:00:06
Speaker
We are going to disagree on that.
01:00:09
Speaker
Wait, you're putting him in your top three is good?
01:00:12
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:13
Speaker
You know why?
01:00:14
Speaker
We're fighting.
01:00:15
Speaker
Okay, go ahead.
01:00:16
Speaker
No, no, no.
01:00:17
Speaker
It's one moment.
01:00:18
Speaker
It's one moment, you guys.
01:00:20
Speaker
When he opens the door?
01:00:21
Speaker
After...
01:00:24
Speaker
No, honestly, okay, two moments.
01:00:26
Speaker
After the disaster at the bookies, they're trying to get away.
01:00:31
Speaker
He backs up and hits Frankie Fourfingers.
01:00:38
Speaker
And it's like, what are you doing, Tyrone?
01:00:40
Speaker
It's a man with four fingers and a briefcase.
01:00:43
Speaker
I agree with you.
01:00:44
Speaker
I love your logic.
01:00:46
Speaker
All right.
01:00:47
Speaker
That is why Tyrone, despite being – and also, he is a silly fat bastard.
01:00:53
Speaker
Right?
01:00:56
Speaker
But he survives this movie where hardcore dudes like Boris the Bullet Dodger and Bullet Tooth Tony do not –
01:01:09
Speaker
Those hard SOBs do not survive this movie.
01:01:13
Speaker
He was in a body bag at one point during the movie, and he still is alive at the end.
01:01:19
Speaker
Good job.
01:01:20
Speaker
Good job by you.
01:01:22
Speaker
All right.
01:01:22
Speaker
So I like your list.
01:01:24
Speaker
You made me think a little bit.
01:01:25
Speaker
Eric, who are your three most capable criminals?
01:01:27
Speaker
I have number one, Bricktop.
01:01:29
Speaker
He is the definition of nemesis, and then he further defines that in one of the best monologues in film history.
01:01:36
Speaker
uh boris the blade is number two because come on man listen like he he's boris the bullet doctor you know he can't be killed um so then i have uh bullet two tony is number three because like i mean he's freaking bullet dude he got shot how many times by that guy and then he just pulls out a sword he got
01:01:58
Speaker
Six times in one sitting.
01:02:01
Speaker
In one sitting.
01:02:02
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:02
Speaker
That was the Abby, cousin Abby.
01:02:03
Speaker
So like that makes him automatically in the realm of discussion.
01:02:08
Speaker
All right.
01:02:09
Speaker
So I'll go ahead and do my top three.
01:02:11
Speaker
BJ, it's a lot of what I've got kind of, it's going to disagree with a little bit.
01:02:14
Speaker
Eric, I've almost got the same list as you.
01:02:16
Speaker
So at number three, I've got Boris, the bullet dodger.
01:02:19
Speaker
I've got bullet tooth Tony at number two.
01:02:20
Speaker
I think he just gets a little unlucky.
01:02:23
Speaker
The reason he doesn't, he doesn't feature higher on my list is that, um,
01:02:28
Speaker
He couldn't recognize that cousin Abby was a liability in that moment.
01:02:34
Speaker
He couldn't realize that that's not somebody that you let have Mr. Desiree go.5 out.
01:02:38
Speaker
If you die before the end of the movie, you can't be number one for me in terms of— He was disarmed.
01:02:43
Speaker
Bullet-toothed Tony was disarmed by the one thing that makes him uncomfortable, look inside the dog.
01:02:50
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:51
Speaker
Right.
01:02:51
Speaker
That's why he didn't have control of Puzzle Navi at that moment.
01:02:55
Speaker
That's a bit heavy, isn't it?
01:02:59
Speaker
I've got Bricktop at number one.
01:03:01
Speaker
Now, BJ, I absolutely understand where you come from, that this movie is kind of the story of his undoing.
01:03:06
Speaker
But there's really not a lot of career criminals that get to retire.
01:03:10
Speaker
Like if you look at the pirates that were around during the golden age, the
01:03:16
Speaker
Not many of them, if any, actually retired.
01:03:19
Speaker
They all died.
01:03:20
Speaker
And that's kind of the case with people who just exist in this world.
01:03:25
Speaker
It's not a world that you really get to just retire from, I guess, to remember that word.
01:03:33
Speaker
There's no golden rule.
01:03:34
Speaker
They all die.
01:03:35
Speaker
No, they all die at some point.
01:03:37
Speaker
And I just think that, uh, that Bricktop was, was pretty good.
01:03:41
Speaker
It seemed like he had his hands in everything.
01:03:42
Speaker
So let me ask you this, because this is something I'm very serious about.
01:03:47
Speaker
What do you think about Bricktop status?
01:03:49
Speaker
Cause I had him in number one.
01:03:50
Speaker
You had him in number one.
01:03:51
Speaker
BJ, what did you have Bricktop as?
01:03:53
Speaker
I didn't put in Bricktop.
01:03:54
Speaker
I had to disqualify him because.
01:03:56
Speaker
Well, he's a little bit too obvious, right?
01:03:58
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:59
Speaker
Okay.
01:03:59
Speaker
So in the film,
01:04:02
Speaker
You're talking about there's two different occasions where he's approached by people who are obviously wagering on the outcome of a better knuckleball.
01:04:11
Speaker
Yeah, I know exactly where you're going with this and I had considered that too.
01:04:15
Speaker
Almost seems like he's not the top dog, right?
01:04:19
Speaker
Like that guy kind of half threatens him.
01:04:22
Speaker
and he doesn't stab him like he does with the other guy.
01:04:26
Speaker
Well, no, I got the impression those guys were Bricktop's peers, not his superiors.
01:04:32
Speaker
He was embarrassed in front of his peers.
01:04:35
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:36
Speaker
And that could be something that's sort of lost in translation.
01:04:40
Speaker
Like, uh...
01:04:42
Speaker
cultural differences in terms of like in America, street gangs, there's no such thing as equals, even though like objectively you could say like these people are equal in their own minds.
01:04:54
Speaker
There is no such thing.
01:04:55
Speaker
They are either alpha or they're dead.
01:04:58
Speaker
It's the respect of the bosses.
01:05:02
Speaker
You know, you've got to go back in the American... It's kind of a mafioso thing, right?
01:05:05
Speaker
Yeah, you've got to go back to the American mafioso tradition to see the respect of the bosses.
01:05:10
Speaker
Because Brick Tops...
01:05:13
Speaker
But like that dude really does confront him.
01:05:15
Speaker
Like, you know, I wasn't happy with blah, blah, blah, or he better go down.
01:05:20
Speaker
Like they're, they're kind of half threatening this dude.
01:05:22
Speaker
And he's supposed to be the scariest guy on the film.
01:05:25
Speaker
Right.
01:05:26
Speaker
It's supposed to be the guy that makes you have nightmares.
01:05:29
Speaker
That is the guy who's not afraid of him.
01:05:32
Speaker
Clearly saying you better be right this time.
01:05:37
Speaker
It doesn't say or else, but it is implied.
01:05:40
Speaker
Yeah, that's the respect of bosses because he had this fight rigged.
01:05:45
Speaker
He offered that information to fellow bosses as a token of respect.
01:05:51
Speaker
Right.
01:05:51
Speaker
And then he couldn't follow through.
01:05:55
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BJ, go ahead and lead us off.
01:05:56
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Who are the least capable criminals that you think are in this film?
01:06:00
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I'm going to say Vince, Saul, and Vince again.
01:06:08
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Vince gets the gold and the bronze because he seems to be slightly more inept than Saul.
01:06:16
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He puts the diamond down his pants and then he just immediately admits to it.
01:06:20
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It's such a hard feat.
01:06:22
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Hard to argue with that.
01:06:23
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Eric, who are your least capable criminals?
01:06:26
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Tyrone.
01:06:30
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He's a getaway driver.
01:06:31
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What the F can he get away from?
01:06:34
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And also he can't drive.
01:06:35
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He can't park.
01:06:36
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So Tyrone's almost useless.
01:06:39
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Vincent, of course, he's in there.
01:06:41
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He's number two.
01:06:42
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And then honestly, I have as my least effective criminal, Tommy the tit.
01:06:50
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I got to heartily disagree.
01:06:52
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Do you know why?
01:06:53
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Well, he did have one moment.
01:06:55
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He's pretty effective.
01:06:56
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Tommy stares down five guys with bats and pipes with a gun.
01:07:03
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He knows does not fire.
01:07:06
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That does.
01:07:07
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Listen, I will give him respect for that without question.
01:07:12
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But so the reason I put him lower, it's just because he didn't have a choice.
01:07:17
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That was the only move that was available on the board.
01:07:20
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And I don't think that Tommy is a capable criminal without Turkish being there.
01:07:27
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I'm kind of in Eric's camp on that.
01:07:31
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I had definitely considered what you said about how he did stand up to those guys.
01:07:38
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So I've got him actually.
01:07:39
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He appears on my list at number three.
01:07:41
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He makes mistake after mistake after mistake in this movie.
01:07:44
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It really seems like Turkish just kind of keeps him around.
01:07:48
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Maybe they're childhood friends or something like that is really kind of what it feels like.
01:07:52
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He does describe it.
01:07:53
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It's like he keeps him out of his most trouble.
01:07:56
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He gets him into.
01:07:57
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Yeah.
01:07:58
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And he doesn't really seem to actually do anything right at any point with that one exception.
01:08:03
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But that really is his only play.
01:08:06
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You know, that is the only play.
01:08:08
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I've got to interject one more thing from the list of things that I loved but didn't mention.
01:08:14
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Brick Top's completely unexplained hatred of Tommy.
01:08:20
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Oh, yeah.
01:08:20
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He treats him like Walter does in Big Lebowski.
01:08:24
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He treats him like Donnie.
01:08:25
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Really?
01:08:26
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He treats Donnie the same way.
01:08:27
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Eric, it's funny you mentioned that because I actually sort of got that same vibe.
01:08:30
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I wrote that down.
01:08:31
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I literally wrote it down.
01:08:32
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Yeah.
01:08:33
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So least effective, least capable criminals.
01:08:36
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I've got Tommy.
01:08:37
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Number two, I've got Frankie Four Fingers.
01:08:39
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He's got way too many vices.
01:08:41
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He does manage to pull off the Diamond Heist.
01:08:44
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Really big heist, by the way.
01:08:46
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The heist is chef's kiss.
01:08:49
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Yes.
01:08:50
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You got to be able to execute it all the way to getting the diamond to a fence.
01:08:54
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Otherwise you're not a super effective criminal.
01:08:57
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And he had too many distractions.
01:08:59
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Yeah.
01:09:02
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So I don't think he's, by the way, let's talk about just very briefly.
01:09:06
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benicio del toro might have been the biggest a-list actor in this entire script at the year 2000 and he barely featured is brad pitt still for me but benicio's number two i think so too i think benicio gets top healing on this honestly no brad pitt was better it's a bigger star brad pitt was bigger at that point i don't know i'm gonna agree to disagree
01:09:30
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So I was disappointed in the amount of time that Benicio was- Yes, I will back that.
01:09:36
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I wanted more Frankie Four Fingers because- Frankie F-ing Four Fingers.
01:09:40
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He's my friend.
01:09:41
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His persona was so freaking brilliant because he had this very not- He's very nonchalant about everything, right?
01:09:51
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Yeah, this not ostentatious accent that Benicio put on.
01:09:56
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And he just was this completely out of control, frenetic, seemingly kind of bisexual.
01:10:05
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But also very degenerate.
01:10:08
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Yeah.
01:10:08
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Yeah.
01:10:11
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So I've got Tommy three Frankie four fingers to I have Tyrone is my least capable criminal it seems like he's along because he's he's the only guy they know that's willing to go along with them because they suck at crime so bad that they don't know good criminals so they only get Tyrone well also by the way
01:10:31
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He snitches.
01:10:33
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Like that's.
01:10:34
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Oh yeah.
01:10:34
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Absolutely.
01:10:35
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Number one in the criminal world.
01:10:36
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You don't fricking snitch.
01:10:38
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He dimes them out so fast.
01:10:39
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All I had to do is put them in a body bag.
01:10:42
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Yeah.
01:10:43
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Poor guy.
01:10:43
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Yep.
01:10:44
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So that's my list for criminal capability.
01:10:47
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We're going to move next into some behind the scenes details.
Behind-the-Scenes and Casting Insights
01:10:50
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And I've just got a couple of different things that I found interesting about this movie as I was researching it.
01:10:55
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So we previously discussed that Solomon, Vincent, Tyrone, they're pretty terrible at crime overall.
01:11:01
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Guy Ritchie actually based the screw ups in this movie on TV shows that ran late at night covering true crime that went wrong.
01:11:08
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that was the basis for it was like real world stuff um they actually had to use a stand-in for bullet tooth tony for the scene where he knocks on the window of vincent and saul's car because vinnie jones was in jail for getting into a fight the night before which is probably the most bullet tooth tony thing imaginable well vinnie jones was known as a hard man of football he actually played professional soccer and he was
01:11:34
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pretty aggressive and physical.
01:11:36
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So that's extremely, this whole role was right up his alley.
01:11:41
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Let's talk about Lenny James, who I really loved in the walking dead series when I was really into that show, really hard.
01:11:47
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Lenny James is fantastic.
01:11:49
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Hall of Fame actors of the world.
01:11:51
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Yeah, Lenny James is great overall.
01:11:53
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So he plays the character of Saul.
01:11:55
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He actually took two near misses to his minerals during shooting with one of the dogs that was used biting him in the crotch.
01:12:01
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It really did.
01:12:02
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And then he also had the shotgun.
01:12:04
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Yeah, the shotgun actually hit him in the same place during the robbery at the bookies.
01:12:09
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The tape where the shotgun hit him actually was used in the final cut of the movie.
01:12:13
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So you can go back and watch that if you want it.
01:12:15
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What are you moaning about?
01:12:16
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Didn't even touch it.
01:12:18
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He's the one that said that.
01:12:19
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Yeah.
01:12:21
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So Brad Pitt, he actually contacted Guy Ritchie to ask for a part in this next movie.
01:12:27
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And Richie cast him in the film, even though he didn't have a role available.
01:12:30
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He then rewrote the movie to include Mickey specifically for Pitt, which I think is pretty wild to think about.
01:12:37
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I mean, if Brad Pitt wants to be in your movie, you don't say no.
01:12:40
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You don't say no.
01:12:42
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You rewrite your movie.
01:12:42
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Yeah.
01:12:44
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I kind of love the little Easter egg.
01:12:45
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I think a lot of people know this, but at the time this was made, Madonna and Guy Ritchie were at least dating, if not married.
01:12:50
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So the time they use Lucky Star was a nice Easter egg.
01:12:54
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I thought it was funny.
01:12:55
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Oh, I love this track.
01:12:59
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It did work though.
01:13:00
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Like in terms of the film, like the absurdity of it as far as bullet tooth Tony loving a Madonna song.
01:13:06
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You know what I mean?
01:13:07
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Yeah.
01:13:08
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Especially that one.
01:13:09
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It's because bullet tooth Tony is not a normal person.
01:13:12
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He's a sociopath.
01:13:13
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It's just like almost everybody else's.
01:13:17
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Being shot six times to a track should probably send you into an absolute triggered state any time you later hear that track.
01:13:30
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But instead, he remarks how much he loves it while he is dragging a man whose head is in his car window alongside the car.
01:13:38
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He calls him a peenarse, which I think is hilarious.
01:13:41
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Yeah.
01:13:42
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So the final one I've got for you, Mickey's first boxing match, the way that it's shown is based on a real fight that happened between a guy named Lenny McLean and Mad Gypsy Bradshaw.
01:13:54
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McLean actually worked with Richie on lock stock and two smoking barrels.
01:13:58
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So I think it's just kind of funny.
01:13:59
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Oh, that's cool.
01:14:00
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I didn't know that at all.
01:14:03
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So another fun segment that we do here regularly that a lot of people enjoy is called alternate castings.
01:14:09
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And I wasn't able to find much on this.
01:14:11
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And everything I found regarding alternate castings was all around Bricktop.
01:14:17
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The original actor, I don't know if you guys know this, the original actor that the role of Bricktop was offered to was none other than Sean Connery.
01:14:26
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Yeah.
01:14:28
Speaker
I don't know.
01:14:29
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I've loved this movie since it came out.
01:14:33
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23.
01:14:33
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I have also loved this movie since it came out and this is the when I was doing research for this was the first time I'd ever actually heard that.
01:14:39
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I was today years old.
01:14:41
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Yeah.
01:14:43
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There's another actor by the name of Bradley Walsh that was cast as Bricktop but fired before production got underway.
01:14:49
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Guy Ritchie found out he used to host Wheel of Fortune and didn't think that image worked for his film.
01:14:56
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Makes sense.
01:14:57
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There's another actor by the name of Dave Courtney, whose work I'm not really overly familiar with.
01:15:02
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I think he's been in mostly British TV and things like that.
01:15:05
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British films that was also kind of discussed for the role of Bricktop.
01:15:09
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Yeah.
01:15:10
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Alan Ford, though, who did play Bricktop, was one of Richie's guys.
01:15:15
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He was in Lockstock and...
01:15:19
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He was sort of a regular in a whole bunch of different DVDs.
01:15:23
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He's an extremely convincing nemesis.
01:15:26
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And I hate to keep using that word because it's like so cliche with film.
01:15:30
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But what word is better than nemesis?
01:15:33
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It fits.
01:15:34
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It fits.
01:15:36
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So we're going to move on to our next segment called Notable and Quotable.
01:15:39
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Now, here on Rob's Reviews, one of the reasons we choose the movies that we choose is they've just been all-time classics.
01:15:45
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And there's a lot of things that make a movie an all-time classic.
01:15:48
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One of those things for sure is you've got to have all-time great lines, great quotable lines.
01:15:55
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Now, this is a comedy and...
01:15:58
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Not only is it a comedy, but it is a very witty comedy.
01:16:01
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Nearly every line of dialogue is a joke and is funny and is memorable.
01:16:06
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So we're going to limit ourselves to three to make this not just three guys sitting in their basement yelling quotes at each other.
01:16:14
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So I know this had to have been one of the hardest things to do to prep for this show is to try to limit yourself to three.
01:16:22
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So BJ, I'd love for you to go first.
01:16:26
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Give us your three favorite lines.
01:16:28
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Well, one of the one of the judges for me, I'm going to stay away from some of the obvious ones.
01:16:34
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I'll leave, you know, Z Germans for you guys.
01:16:37
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But one of the ways that I
01:16:41
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evaluate how effective dialogue is in a movie is if I find it working its way into my standard rotation of expressions.
01:16:52
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And I don't just mean as inside jokes, you know.
01:16:56
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And one of them for me that did that was
01:17:00
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was when Turkish in his monologue described Mickey as harder than a coffin nail.
01:17:08
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He was a bare knuckle boxing champion, which makes him harder than a coffin nail.
01:17:14
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And for the last 23 years, I have used that as a descriptor for anyone who I consider to be exceptionally tough.
01:17:26
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Hard MF.
01:17:26
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Harder than a coffin.
01:17:28
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Harder than a coffin nail.
01:17:31
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So I've got to go with that one for one of mine.
01:17:35
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And another one that I went with, there are so many...
01:17:42
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corny or hammy or bad title drops, right?
01:17:47
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And we have a title, just in the course of the dialogue.
01:17:54
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And the title drop in this one was practically a throwaway, but it jumped out at you if, and it's when they've got the dog,
01:18:07
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and the dog is being very aggressively bitey.
01:18:11
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Don't snatch.
01:18:13
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Yeah, Vincent says, don't snatch.
01:18:16
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And I'm just like, yeah, yeah.
01:18:18
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I had to give it up to that one.
01:18:20
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Well, that's where the name comes from, right?
01:18:23
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Yes, because it is an interesting and organic-seeming title drop.
01:18:30
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That's the thing about title drops.
01:18:31
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They usually seem so very inorganic
01:18:35
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But that one was just there.
01:18:36
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Kind of obvious, right?
01:18:38
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Like it's a family guy spoof of it.
01:18:41
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Yeah.
01:18:41
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Yeah.
01:18:43
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And boy, my third, I am going to go with Frankie Four Fingers leaning into Doug the Head and saying, Boobie, I probably know a lot.
01:19:00
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You don't.
01:19:02
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All great choices.
01:19:03
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So Eric, do you have ones that are different from BJ's?
01:19:07
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Yeah, I do actually.
01:19:08
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And I tried to stay in the same vein that BJ did in terms of less obvious ones.
01:19:14
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Because these are not less obvious, like I was deliberately picking weird, innocuous things.
01:19:21
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These really authentically hit me right in the fields in terms of laughing or anger or seriousness.
01:19:31
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for the first one I wrote and they're mostly bullet tooth, Tony or Boris.
01:19:34
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Cause let's be honest, they kind of steal the show.
01:19:38
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Um, when they're talking about, uh, pulling out, you know, how are they going to kill Boris?
01:19:44
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Uh,
01:19:45
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Rosebud pulls out, he's like, I got a blade.
01:19:47
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He pulls out this really enormous butcher knife.
01:19:53
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And Tony says, it's like the Paul Hogan crocodile, that's not a knife.
01:20:00
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He says, wipe the butter off and put it away.
01:20:06
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there's a proper blade down there chef's knife a butter knife and he has a sword got a freaking scimitar wipe the butter off and put it away is probably the one of the most like dismissive and insulting things you could ever say to a person and at the same time it's also like kind of polite and i think that that's one of the things i love the most about british people what
01:20:33
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um the next one i have is hilarious again this is just a small interaction but like when boris shows up at the pawn shop and he's talking to sol the dog just runs out and he says don't worry about the dog boris it's just kind of shrugs and says i'm not that's a good one that's a good one
01:20:55
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He couldn't give one-fifth of a fornication.
01:20:59
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Okay.
01:21:00
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And then with Bullet Tooth Tony, after the Desert Eagle 0.50 scene, he says, Abby, pull your socks up, which, by the way, is a great quote.
01:21:08
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And he just starts launching fornication.
01:21:10
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fricking half-inch rounds into the hallway.
01:21:14
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And then he goes in there and Boris won't die.
01:21:20
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And then he says, don't take the piss, Boris.
01:21:25
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Like he's super disappointed in Boris.
01:21:27
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You know what I mean?
01:21:28
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Like he's just, he's like lecturing him while he's executing him.
01:21:34
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And finally, he has to take a moment to line up a head shot.
01:21:38
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Yeah, he really does square up.
01:21:42
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After he's launched.50 rounds into this guy's body, he decides to square up with two hands and be perpendicular to his target.
01:21:54
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and launches these powers around.
01:21:56
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He has to.
01:21:58
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Don't take the piss, Mark.
01:22:00
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He has to.
01:22:01
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I mean, the guy has taken like six or seven rounds at that point, and he's still not good.
01:22:07
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And honestly, like, I love...
01:22:09
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English colloquialisms and like the, you know, Royalman slang.
01:22:14
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I love all that.
01:22:15
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Yeah.
01:22:15
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It's an American thing that we just instantly appreciate it because it's so different.
01:22:21
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But also at the same time, the same is like we...
01:22:24
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It's all the same words, but like the meanings are wildly different.
01:22:28
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And I find that very interesting.
Villainy Index: Analyzing Bricktop
01:22:30
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Rob, Rob, we have covered this sort of philosophical topic at length where any profanity is just funnier if it's British.
01:22:40
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Oh, 100%.
01:22:40
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It automatically adds a couple of points to the funniness.
01:22:45
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It always makes it funnier every time.
01:22:47
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Just any profanity.
01:22:48
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What do you got, Rob?
01:22:49
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Exactly.
01:22:49
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What do you got?
01:22:51
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So I wrote down like 30.
01:22:53
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I didn't write that many down.
01:22:55
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Just in case I, you know, you guys pick the same ones I did.
01:22:58
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So there's one that I love.
01:23:00
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I love it every time.
01:23:01
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I look forward to it every time.
01:23:02
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It's when Turkish has to call Bricktop to explain the fight is off.
01:23:07
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He said, we've lost gorgeous George.
01:23:09
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Bricktop.
01:23:12
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Bricktop responds back.
01:23:14
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Where'd you lose him?
01:23:16
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It's not like he's a set of car keys.
01:23:18
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It's not like he's incon-freaking-spicuous.
01:23:21
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Yep.
01:23:22
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That's gorgeous.
01:23:25
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And having the profanity as... A packet of effing peanuts.
01:23:30
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Yes.
01:23:30
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Yes.
01:23:31
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Having the profanity as its own syllable with inside of a word.
01:23:38
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I just love the use of it there.
01:23:39
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It's great.
01:23:40
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It's so good.
01:23:42
Speaker
Very early into the movie, Turkish looks over to some other guy that works for him and says, how's it coming with those sausages?
01:23:48
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He says, two minutes, Turkish.
01:23:50
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And then he asked him again.
01:23:51
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And he says, it was two minutes, five minutes ago.
01:23:55
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You know, BJ, you mentioned it, you know, having having lines that just work their way into your regular vernacular.
01:24:02
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Eric, I'm pretty sure every single episode you and I have ever done at some point when we're trying to figure out the timing on it, that line has come up at some point.
01:24:11
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Yeah, there's a lot of gifs.
01:24:13
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How's those sausages coming, Charlie?
01:24:16
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Yeah.
01:24:17
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Honestly, this is probably one of the most quoted movies of my lifetime.
01:24:21
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Yeah.
01:24:22
Speaker
Between the two of us.
01:24:23
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That line alone gets quoted a ton.
01:24:25
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I just thought that one resonated.
01:24:28
Speaker
Yeah, it's great.
01:24:30
Speaker
I...
01:24:31
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I had trouble lining up my third one out of what I've got left on the list.
01:24:36
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So I'm just going to go with when Bricktop walks in on Solon Benson and they're carrying Frankie Fourfinger's dead body and he says, hope this is not a bad moment.
01:24:44
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So good.
01:24:47
Speaker
I laughed harder at that.
01:24:51
Speaker
Oh, God, it's so good.
01:24:54
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An absolute contender for me on this one was I don't create or I don't I create the bodies.
01:24:59
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I don't erase the bodies.
01:25:02
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That was a contender for me.
01:25:04
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I also gave consideration to these are your last words.
01:25:07
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Make them a prayer.
01:25:08
Speaker
So we were just speaking about Bricktop here.
01:25:10
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We're going to move on to another reoccurring segment here on Rob's Reviews.
01:25:14
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We call this Villainy Index.
01:25:16
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And Villainy Index is where we look at the villain or villains, overall the bad guys, the nemesis of the film, if you will.
01:25:25
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And we rank them on a scale of 1 to 10 with how effective and how good of a villain they are.
01:25:30
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And that's really when you look at, again, your all time classic movies, you know, we had BJ give us his Star Wars rankings right from the very beginning.
01:25:37
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And what does Star Wars have?
01:25:39
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The best villains.
01:25:40
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And that's part of what makes iconic villains iconic.
01:25:43
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So, BJ, I'm going to go ahead and let you go first.
01:25:46
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So on a scale of one to ten, with ten being Darth Vader and one being Nuclear Man from Superman for the quest for peace.
01:25:55
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Where do you rank Bricktop?
01:25:58
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I put Bricktop at a solid 8.5.
01:26:02
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He loses some points because Bricktop is not... Bricktop has some hubris, right?
01:26:13
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That undoes him.
01:26:15
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I can't give a full 10 to a villain that does not do any of their own fighting, so to speak.
01:26:23
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Ooh, okay.
01:26:25
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You know, scoring there.
01:26:27
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That's a good rubric.
01:26:28
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You've got to have some capacity to inflict pain yourself or to score the perfect 10.
01:26:37
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What, what I do absolutely love about Bricktop, the grimace, the Bricktop grimace is remarkable.
01:26:50
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The cruel precision of pig feeding.
01:26:58
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What a monologue that is, too.
01:27:00
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Well, he tells you you have to chop the body into six pieces and pile it all together.
01:27:09
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Did anybody else start doing the math on that one?
01:27:12
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Pieces.
01:27:14
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How did you do it?
01:27:15
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So you're talking about four limbs, a torso, and a head, right?
01:27:18
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Is anybody else...
01:27:19
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differing there i think that's probably it but he is going for six pieces so i have to figure four limbs the head you cut the torso in half somehow right okay but it is the precision of six pieces you need 16 pigs to finish it in one sitting
01:27:43
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They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in – I can't remember how many minutes it was.
01:27:49
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But that means each pig is accounting for two pounds of uncooked flesh.
01:27:57
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That was a very good impression of Alan Ford.
01:28:02
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Good job.
01:28:03
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Each pig will consume two pounds of uncooked flesh.
01:28:08
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That's like an extra C. That's like a German S-C-H.
01:28:13
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The cruel precision of pig feeding...
01:28:17
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is for me, Bricktop's apex villain moment.
01:28:22
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And it's followed right by Nemesis.
01:28:26
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Yeah.
01:28:27
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You know, that is a one-two punch that is just – that's Hall of Fame-level villainy right there.
01:28:34
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Now, for me, I feel like I should explain 8.5 for me on this scale is not an 85.
01:28:39
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Like 8.5 is an A score.
01:28:40
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It's just to get –
01:28:49
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To get into the 9s, the 9.5, or the 10, you've got to be practically flawless.
01:28:56
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Physically capable.
01:28:58
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Yes.
01:28:59
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Darth Vader is the 10.
01:29:01
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Yeah.
01:29:02
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That is why Bricktop, for me, is a robust 8.5.
01:29:06
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I like it.
01:29:07
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All right, Eric, what is your villainy index for Bricktop?
01:29:11
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Exactly 8.5.
01:29:12
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I have him, I wrote down, I swear to God,
01:29:17
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8.5 nemesis territory he is in that what he defines as nemesis he the only thing that really and i like bj's point about him like not physically being capable maybe he is we don't know i mean he doesn't ever show it but like he does appear to be a senior citizen right like they they present him as a guy who's
01:29:40
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well necessarily physically capable in the opening montage in the title card shots they do show him going to work with what looks like a hammer on a guy who's sprayed out on a pool table i'm not saying that he's not willing or able to beat a guy's face into the hammer okay but like he is not ever going to show up alone to anywhere right so like that does bring him down so i'm like you can't it to me
01:30:10
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in terms of villain if you can't do it by yourself then you're never going to be a 10 okay so like but the fact that he has so much fear stricken into the local thug uh level of the underground criminal element that's a big boost to him but at the same time
01:30:33
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We're talking about what we said earlier.
01:30:35
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He had these fights, like guys who were confronting him about like, oh, thanks for the tip, bricked up.
01:30:41
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You know, like he wasn't as scary to those guys as he was to Tyrone and Vincent and Solomon and Lincoln, people who knew what he was about.
01:30:55
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But like these guys who they were also like basically peers, you know, in terms of the criminal underworld in London.
01:31:03
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So I don't think that he was a 10 because if he was a 10 and then those people would have never been saying what they said to him.
01:31:11
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Yeah.
01:31:13
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So I think that that, that is the thing that makes him come down a couple notches for me.
01:31:19
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Yeah.
01:31:19
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All right.
01:31:20
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So BJ's at a 10, Eric, or I'm sorry, BJ's at eight and a half.
01:31:23
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Eric, you're at eight and a half.
01:31:24
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Same.
01:31:25
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Yep.
01:31:26
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I wrote down eight and a half.
01:31:28
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You're never going to believe this.
01:31:30
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We promise we didn't collaborate on this.
01:31:33
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Yeah.
01:31:33
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He's achieved.
01:31:35
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Yeah.
01:31:37
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He is certainly intimidating.
01:31:38
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There is no doubt about it.
01:31:39
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You know, you talked about how the Yardy that is with Saul and Vincent reacts when he goes, I know who you are.
01:31:44
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And he says it as though he has already.
01:31:47
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I do.
01:31:48
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He's already.
01:31:48
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There's almost like a tremble in his voice.
01:31:51
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You know, but he said that he's released his bladder already at that point.
01:31:54
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And it's, he's going to have to change his shorts when he goes home.
01:31:57
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If he makes it home, like that's what he believes.
01:32:00
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Um,
01:32:01
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people are genuinely terrified of this guy, you know, with the exception of those people that kind of confront him a little bit.
01:32:07
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And, and, you know, we can, we can certainly, you know, dive into whether or not, you know, who those guys actually are, but overall, you know, he's a violent sociopath and he shows no remorse of any kind for any of his actions.
01:32:18
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And he does some very deplorable stuff throughout this whole film.
01:32:22
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His only downfall and BJ, I think you used the word hubris.
01:32:24
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And that's also a word that I had written down as well.
01:32:27
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You know, his that's really where his downfall comes in, because he never stops to think that he isn't going to push someone too far.
01:32:36
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And I think he certainly underestimates his adversaries for sure.
01:32:39
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Yeah, he thinks that he's got everything like he's on top of all of it.
01:32:44
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Yeah, because he has the most guys and they're all the dirtiest, grimiest, most willing to do terrible things.
01:32:51
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But he doesn't know Pykees.
01:32:53
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Yeah, he underestimates the Pykees for sure.
01:32:57
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There's a little social commentary in that because Bricktop is a greedy man, whereas the Pykees are desperate men.
Music and Rewatchability of 'Snatch'
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And desperate beats greedy.
01:33:11
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So, you know, the hubris for sure.
01:33:13
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Definitely underestimated his adversaries.
01:33:16
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He certainly has his hands in just about everything illegal you can think of.
01:33:19
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I mean, he's got dog fighting.
01:33:21
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He's got, you know, bookies.
01:33:23
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He's got underground boxing.
01:33:25
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He's got some interest in this diamond.
01:33:27
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It just feels like if it's illegal and it's, it's in his neighborhood, he's got it.
01:33:32
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He's got his hands in it.
01:33:33
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He's involved in it.
01:33:34
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He's got something to do with it.
01:33:36
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So,
01:33:36
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Yeah, I would say 8.5 for me as well.
01:33:39
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And we have quorum on that.
01:33:40
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So we're going to move on to our next segment.
01:33:44
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It's Eric's EPU extended playlist.
01:33:46
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It's a segment we've had a lot of fun with as we've done this show.
01:33:51
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Iconic movies that matter, that really resonate with you, that hit, that just last and make you think about them and make you make it fun.
01:33:59
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An all-time favorite, one of the things it also has to have is iconic music.
01:34:04
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And Eric, what do you have for us for the playlist?
01:34:07
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What is it called and what can listeners expect to find on it?
01:34:10
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All right.
01:34:12
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So this is MGTTM.
01:34:15
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That goes to the movies.
01:34:17
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EPU, the podcast universe.
01:34:21
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We call this Desert Eagle 0.50.
01:34:23
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And that is the very...
01:34:26
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phonetic spelling of you know it's not there's no numbers involved there's no period it's literally the word point the word five hyphen oh h very eclectic this is one of the most eclectic mixes that i've ever uh done there's i mean it goes from like reggae to tango to techno to funk and punk and rock and pop there's so much to it um
01:34:54
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We have a lot of good stuff.
01:34:56
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I actually listened to it start to finish for the first time after I made it today.
01:35:03
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It's fantastic.
01:35:04
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If you have any interest whatsoever in eclectic mixes, this is very, very good.
01:35:12
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There's something for everybody, I think.
01:35:16
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I will concur on the dopeness of said playlist.
01:35:20
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Yeah, it's good stuff, as it always is.
01:35:22
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So listeners, make sure you check that out.
01:35:24
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It will be linked in the show notes.
01:35:25
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You can also search for it on Spotify using the words that Eric gave earlier.
01:35:31
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So really, when you're looking for something to listen to, you should definitely be listening to Matt Goes to the Movies.
01:35:35
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But sometimes you want music, and I certainly understand that.
01:35:39
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Uh, and if you're looking for it, it's each of these playlists that Eric puts together just absolutely captures the vibe of the film.
01:35:46
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And it's hard not to listen to one and then immediately want to go watch that film.
01:35:50
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Cause it just really gets you in the mood for it.
01:35:52
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So I really enjoy that you put these together and I listened to pretty much all of them at one point or another, I'll find myself really digging.
01:36:01
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uh you know one of the other ones i've been listening to the one for uh from dusk till dawn quite a bit because i i just really love that whole really great that's a really good one i've been in a blues kick lately too it's really good yeah so we're gonna move into our ranking system here on rob's review so on the big show on matt goes to the movies we rank things out of five buckets of popcorn
01:36:22
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which, you know, for us to pick a movie here, Eric, we're pretty much always going to be assigning five bucks of popcorn.
01:36:27
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So we have to come up with a little bit different way to rank movies that are an all-time classic for us.
01:36:33
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So here's how it works on Rob's reviews.
01:36:36
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It's on a scale of one to five.
01:36:38
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So five, I would watch it start to finish every time locked in.
01:36:41
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Four, I put it on and play with my phone in between scenes I love.
01:36:45
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Three, this is background noise while doing housework.
01:36:48
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Two, it's a film I enjoy, but don't go out of my way to watch again.
01:36:52
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Number one, it just doesn't hold up the way I remember.
01:36:55
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So BJ, as it is your first time on the show, why don't you kick us off and give us your rewatchability rating?
01:37:01
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I got to call it a four or five because I don't tend to lock in on anything unless it's new.
01:37:14
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I've never seen it or I am sharing it with someone who has never seen it.
01:37:21
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Because I love the experience of sharing film or good stand-up with someone.
01:37:31
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It's really intimate, isn't it?
01:37:33
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Like if you do it the right way, it's an extremely intimate version of communication.
01:37:39
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Yeah, yeah.
01:37:40
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That is something that I have always enjoyed my whole life.
01:37:44
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And so that is why for me...
01:37:47
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I will not lock in on Snatch unless I'm sharing it with someone.
01:37:54
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But it is eminently rewatchable for me because I will put it on and I will attend to other things.
01:38:05
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Not just phone schmutzing, but usually other things that are meaningful.
01:38:11
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But I will constantly be checking back.
01:38:15
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It's not just waiting for scenes that I like.
01:38:17
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It's just sort of... It's constantly bouncing my attention back.
01:38:22
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So that is...
01:38:23
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That is my rating.
01:38:26
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But I don't – like I said, I don't think I have a single five in my entire catalog unless I am sharing it with someone.
01:38:38
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I love that.
01:38:38
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I love how you sort of set that up.
01:38:40
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Yeah, the caveat there is –
01:38:42
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I like how you set that up.
01:38:44
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Our friend Harrison from The Basement Binge that is frequently on The Big Show with us, when he invites Matt and I over to do his show, he's got a rating scale called Pick Your Poison and how you would interact with the film in the future.
01:38:56
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And it's, you know, would you never watch it again?
01:38:58
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Would you be willing to rent it?
01:39:00
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Would you...
01:39:01
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uh, buy it under the right conditions?
01:39:03
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Um, would you stream it if it's already something that you subscribe to, um, which is kind of like his version of a two, I guess.
01:39:09
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Um, and for me, like I almost never rank something as a buy it because I just don't really buy physical medium.
01:39:15
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I don't have room in my house, you know?
01:39:17
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So like, I always have to, um, do that to you.
01:39:22
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Yeah, I always have to like add a caveat whenever I rank something when I'm on his show.
01:39:26
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And it's it's funny because, you know, I think streaming is really just done that to us.
01:39:29
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Nobody really buys a lot of movies anymore.
01:39:31
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I actually would buy this movie.
01:39:33
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So I love that you do that.
01:39:36
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Eric, what is your rewatch ability rating?
01:39:39
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Oh, this is a five.
01:39:40
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This was like when we talked about doing a podcast, this was the first movie I thought of.
01:39:44
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Let's do Snatch.
01:39:45
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So I thought about this and I was watching this.
01:39:49
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I've seen this movie
Pantheon Points: Ranking 'Snatch'
01:39:50
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again.
01:39:50
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Like I said, BJ, you and I just together have seen this movie dozens of times.
01:39:54
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It's been a while since I've seen it.
01:39:57
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And I found myself, I actually had to do it in two sittings because I, you know, work full time plus three kids that are very active and, you know, trying to stay involved with them and keep up on housework and everything else and make sure to walk my wife's dog, all that kind of stuff.
01:40:12
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So I had to do it in two sittings.
01:40:13
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And when I realized that I really did need to get to bed, I found myself being upset and frustrated that I wasn't going to be able to finish this.
01:40:21
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And I think this is a very dangerous movie to try to watch while you're doing something else, because you're not going to put a lot of attention into that.
01:40:28
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Something else for me, like if I was trying to supposed to be doing, you're just going to forget you're doing it all together.
01:40:34
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Yeah.
01:40:35
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This, this, so just, you'll hear a line or you'll know there's a line coming and you're going to wait for it.
01:40:40
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And,
01:40:41
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this is a movie as many times I've seen it.
01:40:43
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I didn't pick my phone up once other than like I use it, you know, as my note taking device.
01:40:48
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I wasn't scrolling social media.
01:40:50
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I wasn't checking email.
01:40:51
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I was, I was all in on this movie.
01:40:54
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So this movie was a five for me.
01:40:57
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It was an easy five.
01:40:59
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Yeah.
01:40:59
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Oh yeah.
01:41:00
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This is easy five.
01:41:02
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This is, this is a really tough movie to try to do to multitask at all.
01:41:06
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At least for me.
01:41:07
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So we're going to move into now a segment we call Pantheon Points.
01:41:12
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And this is kind of one of the most fun segments that we do here on Rob's Reviews where it's literally totally made up.
01:41:17
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It's whatever Hall of Fame or Halls of Fame you want to assign this movie to, whatever ranking you want to give this, give it the most specific ranking you can think of, give it the most generalized, broad ranking you can think of.
01:41:30
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It's really whatever you want it to be.
01:41:33
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I'm going to go ahead and go first.
01:41:34
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And Eric, you're going to go after me.
01:41:37
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So I've got this in a couple of different pantheons.
01:41:41
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This is in my top two movies where Brad Pitt plays an underground fighter.
01:41:45
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I hate you so much.
01:41:46
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You literally just stole my first line.
01:41:50
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Yep.
01:41:50
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I literally had it.
01:41:52
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Yes, and the shirtless while doing so.
01:41:54
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Yes.
01:41:54
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Top two while Brad Pitt mostly fights without a shirt.
01:41:58
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I freaking had that reading.
01:42:02
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You can you can have that as your own pantheon.
01:42:05
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I also have this in my top two movies where Vinnie Jones has a scene where they're trying to get something important out of a dog.
01:42:11
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The other film we have also reviewed here on Rob's Reviews.
01:42:15
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Top five crime comedies.
01:42:18
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I'm trying to think if I've really got like the big Lebowski is also another great crime comedy.
01:42:23
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So that's my all time favorite.
01:42:24
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Yeah, it's brilliant.
01:42:25
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It's probably the first crime comedy that every.
01:42:26
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Yeah.
01:42:28
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I mean, it really depends on what you consider.
01:42:30
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Goodfellas.
01:42:31
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It's funny.
01:42:32
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Ocean's Eleven is fantastic.
01:42:35
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Like the original one.
01:42:36
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Like that was a crime comedy because they were funny.
01:42:38
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Like Sammy David Jr. Well, like we said, one of the big one of the big things about.
01:42:44
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Snatch that makes it different from other crime comedies is that the previous record for crime comedy was that Ocean's Eleven, hey, look at us.
01:42:53
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We're so cool.
01:42:54
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Whereas this is seedy, nasty, you know.
01:43:00
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Screw-ups.
01:43:00
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Dirty folks.
01:43:01
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They were all pretty much screw-ups, all of them.
01:43:04
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All right.
01:43:05
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So I've got a top five crime comedies.
01:43:08
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I'm pretty confident this would fall in my top 30 movies of all time.
01:43:11
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I think I like this movie that much.
01:43:12
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I think it's in my top 30.
01:43:14
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I originally wrote down top 25 and then I hedged my bet.
01:43:18
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Slightly disappointing.
01:43:20
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I thought you would be more narrow.
01:43:22
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I really feel like.
01:43:23
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Yeah.
01:43:25
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I feel I don't change it because of me.
01:43:28
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Just be authentic.
01:43:29
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Yeah.
01:43:30
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Here's the problem is I wanted I really thought I was going to put a top 15.
01:43:35
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But then it's just like, OK, how many Indiana Jones movies are there that are good?
01:43:39
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How many Avengers movies are there that are good?
01:43:42
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Are there that are good?
01:43:44
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I mean, there's a lot.
01:43:45
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Yeah.
01:43:47
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And I'm also going to say this is top five at a minimum of best use of music to underscore a film.
01:43:54
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Yeah.
01:43:55
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Yeah.
01:43:55
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Goodfellas is the gold standard.
01:43:57
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Goodfellas might be the gold standard.
01:43:59
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That's the barometer, right?
01:44:02
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That's the high watermark.
01:44:03
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So I know that Goodfellas would be my number one.
01:44:07
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I'm not confident I could name four other films, but I was like, I feel like top five best use of music to underscore a film.
01:44:15
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I felt like this is where I've got that.
01:44:16
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I like that.
01:44:17
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Eric, what pantheons do you have Snatch in?
01:44:19
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All right, so straight up.
01:44:22
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And maybe I should have disclosed this before we even started.
01:44:26
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So I already knew where I was coming from.
01:44:27
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But this is literally top five all-time Hall of Fame best, most favorite movies in my life.
01:44:35
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Top five.
01:44:36
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Okay?
01:44:37
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It's a big deal.
01:44:38
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This is my most favorite Guy Ritchie flick, which is kind of saying something because I'm a big fan of Guy Ritchie.
01:44:45
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Loved the two Sherlock Holmes movies.
01:44:48
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Big fan of Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels.
01:44:51
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This was my first Jason Statham film.
01:44:54
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And I actually introduced my brother.
01:44:56
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He might not admit this, but I introduced him to Jason Statham from this movie.
01:45:01
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Dude, you should watch Snatch.
01:45:03
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This is my favorite heist movie when the heist happens at the very beginning of the film and is actually not a feature of the film.
01:45:14
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Top two, Brad Pitt as a majority of the film Fighter.
01:45:19
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Top ten most quotable films ever.
01:45:24
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And top seven in terms of monologue because of Bulltooth Tony's replica Desert Eagle 0.50 thing and Bricktop's Nemesis speech is... It might be top five, but just conservatively I'll put it top seven.
01:45:41
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Overall...
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How many monologues have you ever heard that are great?
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This movie has like three that are legendary.
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So I'll say at least top seven.
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Good stuff.
01:45:54
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It's hard to argue with a lot of that.
01:45:56
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All right, BJ, so you kind of got an idea of how our Pantheon Point segment works.
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What Pantheons do you place this movie into?
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I have it in my top two movies where Dennis Farina plays a completely insufferable prick.
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Good job.
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That's a good job.
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because it's number two, because the other one is Go Get Your Shine Box.
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Which is the name of my good cosplay.
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I have it in, I would say, my top five for sources of hilarious British profanity.
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Because there's some other great ones.
01:46:30
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There's some other great ones.
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But this one is right up there for Pantheon British profanity laughs.
01:46:37
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Gosh, what other type Pantheon sort of listings?
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Because you guys have nailed a lot of the ones that I was sort of thinking of, too.
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Do you think it's top 25, top 30?
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By the way, nobody ever counts.
01:46:54
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So if we review 30 movies and you put all of them in your top 20, like nobody's keep track.
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Yeah, that's kind of the thing that I'm always super concerned about.
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I'm going to put 180 movies in my top 20.
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Yeah, I can definitely see it working its way into my top 30.
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If we were to go non-sci-fi or fantasy edition of that list, you know, top 20 movies that are set in the real world, well, you sort of got to have a different scale because part of the beauty of the sci-fi and the fantasy is that it takes you out of the world.
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But that's also another credit to this movie is the quality of the world building that they put into it.
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But yeah, that's, that's where I would put it.
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Pantheon wise.
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I might say that it's in my top 10 for, for quality of monologue.
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Like if you were to judge a movie just on the strength of its monologues, yeah, pretty
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easily top 10.
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Okay.
01:47:55
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Eric, I think you had one where it was top seven most quotable movies.
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I think that's, I think that's a good one.
01:48:00
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I like that one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I hadn't thought about where that would rank for that.
01:48:05
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So that's why I kind of like this segment.
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