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The Mummy
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Nick Morton is a soldier of fortune who plunders ancient sites for timeless artifacts and sells them to the highest bidder. When Nick and his partner come under attack in the Middle East, the ensuing battle accidentally unearths Ahmanet, a betrayed Egyptian princess who was entombed under the desert for thousands of years. With her powers constantly evolving, Morton must now stop the resurrected monster as she embarks on a furious rampage through the streets of London.
Release date: June 9, 2017 (USA)
Director: Alex Kurtzman
Budget: $125–195 million
Box office: 410 million USD
Distributed by: Universal Pictures
Music by: Brian Tyler
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Transcript
Tom Cruise's Impact and Top Gun Maverick
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Well, what's going on, everyone?
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Welcome back to Matt Goes to the Movies.
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And we are going to be talking about one of the biggest stars in movies still.
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One of the few guys that shown was certain properties.
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He can still make money based on a single name.
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That is Tom Cruise.
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He proved it with Top Gun Maverick.
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Yeah.
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And he's proved it with other movies.
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Is The Mummy going to
The Failed Launch of the Dark Universe
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be one of them?
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That's the movie that we're here to talk about today.
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The Mummy actually launched the long-running and successful dark... I'm sorry, I'm kidding.
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This movie was supposed to launch the dark universe, which never came to fruition.
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And that's something Rob and I will, I'm sure, we'll talk a lot about with this movie.
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Rob, it was funny watching this and seeing that Dark Universe logo and really just kind of going back and looking at all of that.
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And they had that still shot of all the actors and what they were going to do.
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And this was when the MCU was at its peak of popularity and popularity.
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really even when something was bad like still got a pass and everything had to be a connected universe and it was oh this is oh it's the dark universe so it was kind of funny seeing that logo and then really just going into everything that like how quickly that failed
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So they really thought they had something with this.
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I mean, just the beginning of this intro graphic for the dark universe, like they, they put some time into that.
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They, they clearly thought this was going to be something.
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And I, I want to kind of tell the listeners a little bit of a story first, before we really get into discussing this film.
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And when I say film, the air quotes are heavily implied there.
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So we were originally going to do this to cap off Spooky Movie Month in October a couple of weeks ago.
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And then for one reason or another, we've had to change this twice.
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So I've been kind of living with this movie just sort of in the back of my head for well over two and a half weeks.
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Well, first of all, I got bullied into doing this movie on air in the first place.
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Matt said, we're doing this.
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And he promised you, the listener, that we were going to do this.
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I never fully consented
Reasons Behind The Mummy's Failure
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to it.
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No.
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flush this movie from my short-term memory, not have to even remember that I watched it.
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And yet I've still got, I've got it like in the back of my head, just things that I know we want to talk about for this episode.
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And I have not been able to just flush it.
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So I think at some point,
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We got to change.
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We might need to change the show instead of MGTTM.
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I think it might have to be MIABF or Matt is a bad friend.
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That might be like a subset of the show, like when you make me watch these movies.
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Oh, yeah.
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I'm telling you, this show together, it's basically...
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death by a thousand cuts for you.
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Cause I, I make you do this all the time.
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And it's not even like, like, it's not even like daredevil where it was fun to like rip apart because it's so bad that it's, it's actually like a little bit good or like even Batman and Robin, you know, we talked about this.
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I'm trying to remember what it even was recently.
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Oh, it's Battleship.
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There's different kinds of bad movies.
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Battleship is like Armageddon bad, where it's obviously bad, but it's a summer blockbuster.
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Just throw popcorn in your face and just deal with it and get over it.
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You'll be fine.
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This one is just actually bad.
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Like they had clear plans, but, and when I say clear plans, I guess I mean, they had plans that this was going to be huge, but they never actually planned out how they were going to make it huge by making a good movie that people were actually going to be into.
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I mean, they had all of these guys, you talked about the still shot that was on the front cover of entertainment weekly.
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Like that was, that was around.
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Like this was something that people were hyped for.
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I mean, yeah,
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Just think about how big the month of October is and how big of a holiday Halloween is.
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Like most people's favorite holiday is Christmas.
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And then if, you know, if it's not Christmas for most other people, it's Halloween because they love spooky season.
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They love monsters and they love the macabre and they love all of these things.
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So to think that these iconic characters, you know, some of the most iconic characters in all of literature and fiction, you think about Dracula and you think about,
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Frankenstein's monster and all of these other characters that were supposed to be brought in.
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And some of the oldest black and white movies that anybody even still cares about were these universal monsters.
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And this was supposed to be a connected universe, which...
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I guess here was my question.
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Where were they going with this?
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Like, I guess before we even get into this, like the whole concept of the dark universe, like it's not like with the Avengers where eventually they were going to come together to fight Thanos.
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Like what was the Thanos of the dark universe?
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What was the point of having a connected universe with all these characters?
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What were they building to?
Financial and Strategic Missteps of The Mummy
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Yeah.
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You know, that's the thing.
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And regardless of what,
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Regardless of what this movie was is, it was surprising to see how quickly they pulled the plug on this.
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Now, I know this movie was not financially successful, but, you know, some of these other movies that they had planned and we'll talk about that you could have done for a fairly low budget, it seems.
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And
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maybe recuperated some of that money that you lost from this back.
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And it really does feel like this movie was okay.
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Now, again, I want to stress, I don't ever think, especially here with this one.
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Now, yes, sometimes they do, but I don't think this was a movie that,
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Anybody wanted to make and wasn't good.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You don't go in there being like, this is going to be bad.
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Unless it's like... They wanted to make something here.
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But I also think it was just...
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You know, some of it was in the cart before the horse.
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Right.
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And some of it was, well, this movie's going like, we're going to kick this off.
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Like, I think there's a reason they started with the mummy and Tom Cruise because, okay, well, people are going to go see this because of Tom Cruise.
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Like this can be the starting point because it's Tom Cruise.
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And, you know, I'll say, and I think we can talk about this more later, but
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this isn't necessarily a great performance from him.
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And I actually do think he is a very good actor.
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I don't think he's particularly strong in this movie, which goes to show you that, you know, bad scripts and whatever else can really, really affect.
Dracula Untold's Role in the Dark Universe
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But, you know, this movie is,
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failing um really and actually this universe rob i don't know if you know this but this universe kind of failed even before the mummy um do you know what i'm talking about
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Yeah, there was supposed to be a film that had already been released.
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They were going to kind of retcon into this, almost the way that a man of steel wasn't really supposed to be the start of a new shared universe, but kind of retroactively became that way.
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Am I correct on that?
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I think it was supposed to be a Dracula film that was not well received.
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Yeah, it was Dracula untold.
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Um,
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with Luke Evans.
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I should know because I actually really liked that movie.
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But yeah, Dracula untold was actually supposed to be the original starting point for for this movie for this universe, which then they said, oh, no, never mind.
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We'll do the mummy.
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And then it was kind of tentatively like, oh, well, we'll bring that back into the fold.
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But there was.
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So with this movie, not, you know, producing the way they thought,
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The Mummy 2, Bride of Frankenstein, Frankenstein's Monster, Invisible Man, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, which we know who would have played him, Dracula Untold 2, and Van Helsing, which would have been a reboot from the Hugh Jackman one, were all supposed to be part of this.
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And every one of those movies was scrapped in
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immediately.
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That was pretty like, to me, that, that is crazy.
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Like how quickly they pulled the plug on this.
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To be honest.
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So this is not a good movie.
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And I, if you haven't figured out that that's my thought on this yet, have you been listening?
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But to be 100% honest, as I was finishing this, I, in my head, I,
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thought that I would have been willing to give this universe a second movie to try to entice me to finish watching the
Comparing Failed Universes with the MCU
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series.
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Like had they gone the rest of the way.
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And it's kind of funny because, and I feel like we talked about this three years ago when we first did our MCU power rankings.
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There are so many times that people have tried to get a connected universe, right.
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Or bring in shared characters or,
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or multiple major characters from other things.
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And other than Marvel, it doesn't seem like anybody can get it right.
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Think about something even like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
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That should have been a great, fun, popcorn movie.
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And it was terrible.
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And it kind of like, I kept getting vibes of that movie, watching this scene that they were trying to pull in all of these characters that don't really relate to one another, but they were going to try to make them relate.
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And in ways that, you know, they have their own sort of, I guess, name value on their own and then trying to bring them together.
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I kind of, but yet it somehow didn't work.
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I totally agree with you on that, on your Tom Cruise point, by the way, normally I think he's a fantastic actor.
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I think he's,
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among the most talented actors working and certainly among the biggest movie stars that are out there right now.
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Usually you can open a movie just on him alone.
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And yet somehow none of that seemed to work for this.
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And what really occurs to me, there's kind of like,
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within the production world, there's kind of like an inside joke of, you know, if something goes wrong, that's just like, well, F it, we'll fix it in post.
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Just kind of meaning like, well, there's nothing we can do about it.
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Like maybe we can fix it later.
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And so much of this movie kind of felt like they didn't really know where they were going and what they were doing.
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They were just going to do a bunch of stuff and hope that when they sat down in the editing room in post-production, they could like make something out of it.
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And failed like it just there was nothing to bring together.
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There was just too much too much disjointedness and not a good enough roadmap to start this thing in the first place.
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Connected universes and every time I think about it and every time I watch a movie like this or you know you think about the failures of the DCEU.
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It just makes me realize that Kevin Feige is among the smartest human beings to ever live.
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He's the Leonardo da Vinci of what he does.
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He's just this crazy, smart, brilliant Renaissance person that can somehow pull things together that other human beings, mere mortals, just completely stumble and fall down the hill trying to put together.
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Yeah, that's that is a but that's probably just another whole episode in itself, especially with the recent string of the MCU and what they're going through.
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But yeah, which quick little side, I've heard that there was test screenings for Captain America and it was absolutely hated.
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And that's why it's delayed again.
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But
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Yeah.
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You know, it was, it was funny to see all of these things where it was just like, boy, it, it really is.
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And especially like I just said, seeing how the MCU is struggling right now, that lightning in a bottle feeling to have so many things line up for yourself and to have that culmination of infinity war and end game.
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And that 10 year plan that finally came together.
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It really can't be overstated how rare that was with watching everything else around it fail and having a roadmap.
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The biggest problem that we've talked about with Star Wars and the sequels was literally, and they openly admitted it, there was no roadmap.
Tom Cruise's Role in The Mummy
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There was nothing in place to where it was going to go.
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The Force Awakens was made.
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And it was, okay, well, here you go.
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And then they do The Last Jedi, and they told Rian Johnson, just do whatever you want.
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There was no communication of, well, this needs to lead to this.
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This needs to go here.
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This was the plan for Snoke.
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And then everything happens with that movie.
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And then it was, oh, well, let's bring J.J.
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Abrams back.
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But it was, well...
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okay, keep some of the stuff that happened in last Jedi, but let's retcon some of it.
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Let's make the rise of Skywalker feel like a sequel to the force awakens and almost the last Jedi kind of doesn't exist.
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Like I wish it didn't exist.
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You know, it's, it's just, it's rare.
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It's rare that those things work out.
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And, um,
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again, what, like, what was going to be the end game here?
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Was it going to be, they fit like, who are these guys going to team up and face?
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Cause it's almost like a league of extraordinary gentlemen type thing where, okay, it's a connected universe, but what would connect these people in the end?
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Like who would be the big bad guy?
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Would it be Dracula?
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Like, like,
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Who would it be?
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Like, what would happen with this universe?
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And again, I still think you could have waited to pull the plug on this and give us something like the invisible man or, you know,
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It would have to have been a stronger property.
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Like you kind of need either a Dracula or a Frankenstein.
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Like you need one of the more like you think about Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
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I mean, it's regarded as the original piece of science fiction ever created.
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Mm hmm.
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And.
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That's something that I don't think she gets enough credit for because I think she kind of just did it on a goof almost like they were just like a bunch of people sort of hanging out and they were coming up with stuff and she's kind of like, okay, well, how about this?
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And it's amazing if you ever get a chance to read the novel, how much we borrow from those ideas still in modern storytelling today.
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Even something as stupid as Deep Blue Sea.
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Do you remember Deep Blue Sea?
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LL Cool J, that borrows heavily from Mary Shelley's original novel.
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Not necessarily the Boris Karloff version, but like Mary Shelley's original novel.
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Like so much of that makes its way into like even something as stupid as that.
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Like there's there's you need a character with that kind of value.
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You kind of needed like a Dracula level character to really get this thing going.
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And to start with.
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you know, Egyptian kind of vibes.
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I, you know, I think people are really into Egypt.
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I think, especially with like history channel playing ancient aliens all the time.
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Like I think people are more into ancient Egypt now than, than maybe they have been in a very long time.
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But was this really the character?
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Was this really the villain you wanted to start this on?
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And even more important than that,
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You think about the very opening of this movie, you kickstart your connected franchise with infanticide and a woman being buried alive.
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You literally kill a baby and bury a woman alive as the start to your franchise.
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And you can't figure out why people aren't getting behind it.
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I don't know.
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Oh, and then right after that, what happens?
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You've got some white guys looting Middle Eastern antiquities in an Iraqi setting.
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Not exactly a popular war.
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Probably not a good idea.
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And then you have your main character lie and steal from a woman he slept with, trying to just get information and steal from her and gaslight her.
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And then that's followed by a whole string of not even vague innuendos.
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The whole first 20 minutes of this movie are hard to watch and at a bare minimum, really cringey.
Mission Impossible Giveaway Announcement
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Yeah.
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And I think I, you know, this is a good time to actually start talking about the movie in particular and, uh,
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Before I talk about that, though, this is where I want to take a quick break to actually let listeners know about another giveaway, which is very appropriate because it's with Tom Cruise.
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And that giveaway is for the brand new released Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One.
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So we have another giveaway, like I said, which is for...
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a franchise that is one of the rare ones that has gotten better over time.
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You can't really get to seven, eight, nine, 10 numbers in the movies with them getting better.
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But I think after Mission Impossible 3, Mission Impossible has gotten better with each entry.
Critique of The Mummy's Story and Characters
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So thank you to Matt 360 for that, because I absolutely love that franchise.
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That's one that we've actually never talked about any of the entries before.
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But thank you so much for map 360 for giving us a another giveaway for our listeners.
00:19:34
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So Rob going from a good franchise and we're going to go back to, to this, you know, the, the thing that I noticed was, um,
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This movie really starts off, you know, you said the first 20 minutes are bad, but it starts off in a lot of ways, like the movies that you and I personally have talked about.
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We like a lot more.
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And that's the mummy and the mummy returns.
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It starts off with a lot of dialogue.
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And that's one of the that's one of the things I don't like about this movie is there's a lot of parts in it that are.
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It's exposition.
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There's a lot of filler in this movie explaining everything.
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Now, in The Mummy Returns, or in The Mummy, like the opening, yes, they talk about Imhotep and they show the scenes, but then it gets into it and it's lighthearted and it's fun.
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I'm not saying that's why this movie failed, but it's just...
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it's almost, it's almost dark in a way that's, it's not fun or not entertaining.
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Like, like, trust me, I'm the last guy.
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Like I, I love a good horror.
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I love good, you know, a good dark movie.
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Um,
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But this is just almost like it didn't want to commit because then there's some, you know, jokes in the movie and there's some lightheartedness, but it didn't know what to kind of commit to it.
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I felt and, um,
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Again, the performances for me are just they're not good.
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Like, why did why does Tom Cruise's character?
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Why does this have to be a girl that, oh, he slept with before?
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Like, it's it's got those tropes right in the beginning.
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Like, why does he like why do they have to have a history?
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Why couldn't they just be two characters that happen to intersect with each other?
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Lazy screenwriting.
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Yes, it is.
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Like, that is like, okay, so we're supposed to care or like, not for nothing, even at the end of this, like his character, he's not a good guy.
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Like he's, he's really a, he's really a piece of shit.
00:21:51
Speaker
Um, so if you really, if you, if you think about all the things that this movie fails at it, there's a couple of things that I think really summarize a lot of it.
00:22:00
Speaker
The heroes aren't likable or compelling.
00:22:03
Speaker
The villains aren't particularly unique or interesting.
00:22:06
Speaker
the movie sort of plods along without doing much in the way of being unique in its space.
00:22:12
Speaker
And ultimately it's just another mind control supernatural movie.
00:22:16
Speaker
We've seen this.
00:22:17
Speaker
The heroes aren't even dislikable in a roguish sort of way.
00:22:21
Speaker
It's not like any number of lovable scamps like Han Solo or even the guys from oceans 11.
00:22:26
Speaker
They just suck.
00:22:28
Speaker
And if you don't have,
00:22:31
Speaker
heroes that are interesting and compelling, like even if the hero is an anti-hero and they're actually a bad guy, like a bad guy, but they're at least have some kind of interesting character traits to them.
00:22:46
Speaker
Like you want to see how it comes out.
00:22:47
Speaker
I mean, there's, you think about something like Scarface, like clearly Tony Montana is not a character that you root for.
00:22:54
Speaker
He's a bad, a bad guy.
00:22:56
Speaker
And even like has a say hello to the bad guy.
00:22:58
Speaker
You know, he's got that whole scene.
00:22:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:23:00
Speaker
But he's at least it's interesting to watch what he does and how this whole world, how he achieves what he achieves and how it all comes collapsing down and why it's it's interesting to watch his rise and fall.
00:23:12
Speaker
But none of these characters give you that.
00:23:15
Speaker
Like you don't even really see any of them.
00:23:18
Speaker
long enough, I guess, do anything interesting where you care what happens to them.
00:23:22
Speaker
Um, like even, even Jenny, the, the love interest, like she's a little bit interesting, but, but only because you kind of feel bad for her that she got lied to and taken advantage of.
00:23:34
Speaker
Um, outside of that, like,
00:23:37
Speaker
Which character in this movie do you identify with or care about or be like, yeah, that was my favorite character in this movie?
00:23:44
Speaker
Right.
00:23:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:23:45
Speaker
There's not like... That is something that I was really surprised of that like Tom Cruise allowed himself to kind of...
00:23:54
Speaker
be put into that position of his character, Nick, where he's just not a good guy.
00:24:00
Speaker
It was really weird because you look at some of his other movies, it's very different.
00:24:06
Speaker
And I was surprised that he really...
00:24:10
Speaker
allowed him because he's not related.
00:24:11
Speaker
He's not rootable.
00:24:13
Speaker
Like even during this movie, like when he, okay, like I'm supposed to believe he had a change of heart about Jenny.
00:24:19
Speaker
I'm supposed to like, I just, or that he cared about his friend, you know, that, um, what was his, what was his friend's name?
00:24:26
Speaker
Uh, Chris, Chris, like I'm supposed to believe that he cares about him, you know, and,
00:24:32
Speaker
at the end they're together.
00:24:33
Speaker
Like, like there's nothing relatable.
00:24:36
Speaker
I don't want to root for these guys.
00:24:39
Speaker
I just don't.
00:24:40
Speaker
And there's nothing really in this movie either.
00:24:44
Speaker
Like not only people that you can't root for, or like you really want to see succeed.
00:24:51
Speaker
There's never really any kind of moments.
00:24:53
Speaker
Like maybe the plane scene,
00:24:55
Speaker
like where the plane's going to crash.
00:24:57
Speaker
That's pretty cool.
00:24:59
Speaker
That is legitimately cool, but there's not, there's not a lot to sit here and grip you with.
00:25:06
Speaker
There's just, there's not, I don't understand.
00:25:13
Speaker
I just don't understand what this movie is because there's nothing relatable.
00:25:17
Speaker
And that's, that's how you can break it down.
00:25:21
Speaker
There's not anything, nothing really happens.
00:25:24
Speaker
Like maybe the coolest thing is Russell Crowe, like his little Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde thing, maybe, or the coolest thing is a reference to the actual mummy movies.
00:25:36
Speaker
I like, what do you have in this movie?
00:25:39
Speaker
That's the thing that I kept saying while I was rewatching this is,
00:25:43
Speaker
What am I supposed to do here?
00:25:44
Speaker
Who am I supposed to root for?
00:25:48
Speaker
Even the mummy in this, and this is nothing against the actress, but just very generic, very plain.
00:25:58
Speaker
Nothing captivated me with this movie.
00:26:01
Speaker
And I was surprised because we watched a lot of movies where I'm like, yeah, all right, you know what?
00:26:05
Speaker
It's still what I remember, but at least there's some fun there.
00:26:09
Speaker
Or like we said with Battleship, you know,
00:26:13
Speaker
Going back, damn, the first half hour of this movie is actually pretty good.
00:26:19
Speaker
There's a good film here, and it gets bogged down a little bit, but wow, they did something here.
00:26:26
Speaker
That is not The Mummy.
00:26:28
Speaker
The Mummy is what I remember, and that's almost worse, like you said, when there's nothing to say, like, oh, well, it's so bad, it's good.
00:26:36
Speaker
The Mummy is just...
00:26:38
Speaker
all right, whatever.
00:26:39
Speaker
Like I watched it.
00:26:41
Speaker
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with it.
00:26:43
Speaker
It's a gross misunderstanding of what makes competitive
00:26:47
Speaker
compelling connected universes, something people are into.
Misunderstanding the MCU's Success
00:26:51
Speaker
I think they took the wrong lesson from the Avengers.
00:26:54
Speaker
They took the lesson of, Oh, you just pull all these beloved characters together.
00:26:59
Speaker
You somehow connect them a little bit over time from one movie.
00:27:03
Speaker
And, you know, they make a crossover from one movie into the next, and then you bring them all together into a major film.
00:27:08
Speaker
It'll do billions.
00:27:10
Speaker
And they just, they missed on all of the other things that made, you know,
00:27:14
Speaker
the MCU successful in the first place, not to spend a lot of time on a, on a podcast or on the mummy really getting into the MCU.
00:27:21
Speaker
But if you think about what they started with, they started with Tony Stark and he is not at the beginning of the movie, a good guy.
00:27:27
Speaker
He's actually a very, you know, a morally bad dude.
00:27:33
Speaker
Like he does a lot of really bad things and he continues to make bad decisions.
00:27:38
Speaker
He continues to do bad things throughout the movie.
00:27:40
Speaker
But,
00:27:41
Speaker
And then he fully understands the consequences of his actions.
00:27:44
Speaker
You see that growth in that character.
00:27:46
Speaker
You see him change.
00:27:47
Speaker
You see him decide he's going to do something about it.
00:27:50
Speaker
He's going to atone for his mistakes.
00:27:53
Speaker
And he becomes a very interesting character so much so that when you get to the final scenes of end game, you're bawling like a baby over the growth of this character and what he's done across a whole series of movies.
00:28:05
Speaker
And there was no, there was no beginning of that here.
00:28:09
Speaker
It's the, the filmmakers clearly never understood why the Avengers were successful.
00:28:16
Speaker
They thought it was just take all these characters and
00:28:19
Speaker
shake it into a jar, spit it out, have somebody write a script around it, and people will come and see it.
00:28:25
Speaker
It'll be awesome.
00:28:26
Speaker
It'll make all the money.
00:28:28
Speaker
And that's not why the Avengers was successful.
00:28:33
Speaker
Even DC, who is also a superhero property, who has teams like Suicide Squad and the Justice League and the Titans and all of these other groups, even they can't figure out how to get it right.
00:28:46
Speaker
it's, it's really, you know, use the term lightning in a bottle earlier.
00:28:50
Speaker
That's what it is.
00:28:52
Speaker
Like even star Wars can't seem to get it right at different points.
00:28:55
Speaker
Like arguably, and I wouldn't even say arguably at this point, it is probably inarguably the largest piece of intellectual property on planet earth right now, which would put it very high in the running for largest intellectual property in the galaxy.
00:29:09
Speaker
Um,
00:29:10
Speaker
And even they can't seem to get it right sometimes about how to connect all of these pieces of data and connect these characters from one to the next.
00:29:19
Speaker
Right.
00:29:19
Speaker
And maybe we just have our expectations are just too high.
00:29:23
Speaker
You know, like, or maybe studios just, like I said, learned the wrong lesson from it and didn't start by making a good, compelling movie first.
00:29:31
Speaker
How many times have we said that?
00:29:33
Speaker
Yeah, it's the Amazing Spider-Man 2.
00:29:36
Speaker
That's a trailer for, oh, we want to do all of these spinoff properties.
00:29:41
Speaker
Like, look at all of our toys, but don't look too close because guess what?
00:29:46
Speaker
The ninja kick action doesn't work.
00:29:50
Speaker
The kung fu grip doesn't grip.
00:29:54
Speaker
Right.
00:29:54
Speaker
They're good to look at, but don't actually...
00:29:58
Speaker
you're never going to get to play with them because we actually, they're all broken.
00:30:02
Speaker
And that's what this movie is.
00:30:04
Speaker
This movie is very broken.
The Mummy's Lack of Narrative Direction
00:30:06
Speaker
And it's again, it stops for long periods of time to just dump dialogue on you because nothing can just be shown on screen.
00:30:17
Speaker
Your main character is not relatable.
00:30:19
Speaker
Your secondary character is,
00:30:23
Speaker
in is not really relatable.
00:30:25
Speaker
Like I, I also don't realize any reason why I really root for, for Jenny.
00:30:30
Speaker
Like why?
00:30:31
Speaker
Like, and again, at the end of the movie, you said this though, I, are we supposed to like, are we supposed to root for Nick?
00:30:39
Speaker
Like, Oh, is he going to use his powers because he's merged for good or for evil?
00:30:44
Speaker
Like I,
00:30:46
Speaker
And then he goes back and frickin resurrects his friend and they're on the, you know, now they're going to be frickin looking for a cure.
00:30:53
Speaker
Like I just at the end of this movie, you have no reason.
00:30:58
Speaker
You really have no reason to care whether or not he finds it.
00:31:03
Speaker
And the other problem is that once you present that you have a character who can do resurrections, death doesn't really mean anything.
00:31:10
Speaker
Like there's never really anybody that's going to be in danger that you're going to believe is going to be in danger because this guy has the ability to just resurrect them.
00:31:17
Speaker
So it really set them up for a bad place for the future.
00:31:21
Speaker
if they were going to try to continue something with this character.
00:31:23
Speaker
But there's different times where Tom Cruise and Jake Johnson, who plays his friend Chris Vale, who I actually like.
00:31:30
Speaker
My wife was really into that show New Girl for a little bit, and I happened to see little bits and pieces.
00:31:34
Speaker
And I thought he was wildly hysterical in that show, the little bits of it that I saw, and quite a good actor, at least in that capacity.
00:31:42
Speaker
And I thought he was okay in this.
00:31:43
Speaker
I didn't think he was terrible in this.
00:31:44
Speaker
But they have some scenes that you just like...
00:31:48
Speaker
It's like, did anybody think about how they were supposed to actually set this up?
00:31:52
Speaker
Like, what was the end goal of this scene?
00:31:55
Speaker
And I'm thinking specifically, there's the one where he's in the bathroom and Chris is kind of like zombified a little bit.
00:32:02
Speaker
The scene is actually kind of terrible overall.
00:32:06
Speaker
It immediately follows with, he's out in the street and there's these just awful CG rats that are followed by a stupid fake out hallucination in the alley.
00:32:16
Speaker
there's so many things they do in this movie that are just tropey and overused and unoriginal.
00:32:24
Speaker
And even like you can do tropey and unoriginal, but do it in a unique way, or at least do it in an interesting way.
00:32:32
Speaker
And these are just done in the, Hey, we just got to get this movie to print as fast as we can way.
00:32:38
Speaker
Yep.
00:32:38
Speaker
Exactly.
Revisiting Older Mummy Films
00:32:40
Speaker
It, uh, yeah, it, it certainly was, uh,
00:32:45
Speaker
a weird experience watching this back, especially it being like a Tom Cruise movie.
00:32:51
Speaker
And it just, it may all this movie did.
00:32:56
Speaker
And we talked about it.
00:32:57
Speaker
You and I individually was make me want to go back and actually watch the other mummy movies, at least the first, because tomb of the dragon empire, um, or the dragon emperor, I actually find very, very bad.
00:33:10
Speaker
Um, yeah,
00:33:11
Speaker
And a lot of it has to do with the fact that they had to recast because the new actress that plays God, what was Rick's wife's name?
00:33:20
Speaker
Evie.
00:33:21
Speaker
The new actress that took over for Rachel, like has no chemistry with Brendan Fraser whatsoever.
00:33:27
Speaker
Like, it's crazy.
00:33:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:29
Speaker
But those first two movies, The Mummy and The Mummy Returns, were so fun.
00:33:35
Speaker
They were so much fun.
00:33:38
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:33:39
Speaker
There's a lot of problems with those movies.
00:33:41
Speaker
The CGI doesn't age very well.
00:33:43
Speaker
But we've talked about this point, too.
00:33:48
Speaker
Some of that stuff can be overlooked and made up for because you can tell they're having fun and the chemistry with everybody on set.
00:33:58
Speaker
a lot of this movie feels like they're not having fun.
00:34:03
Speaker
Like they could tell this wasn't going to work.
00:34:07
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely.
00:34:08
Speaker
Even the set piece moments of this.
00:34:10
Speaker
So you think about the big action sequences, the like when the big plot points move forward, there's really like,
00:34:17
Speaker
They're mostly ineffective.
00:34:19
Speaker
So there's really two that I think of.
00:34:21
Speaker
There's the fight in the busted church.
00:34:24
Speaker
It's absolutely terrible.
00:34:25
Speaker
And one of the things that drives me absolutely insane is when you have powerful enemies who don't use their strength or all of their weapons because of plot armor.
00:34:37
Speaker
Like she's trying to kill him.
00:34:38
Speaker
She's trying to, the mummy is trying to kill Nick, trying to kill him, like not pulling her punches.
00:34:43
Speaker
She's trying to kill him and has so many opportunities to do so, but just decides to throw him around a little bit first, just to drag the scene out and give him a chance to get away.
00:34:53
Speaker
Like it's like,
00:34:55
Speaker
I hate that so much.
00:34:57
Speaker
It's like, it's like the Dr. Evil equivalent, you know, where he's like monologuing.
00:35:00
Speaker
Like, what do you like?
00:35:02
Speaker
No, like this is so bad.
00:35:04
Speaker
And it's obviously bad.
00:35:05
Speaker
And it's, it's counterintuitive to what's really going on.
00:35:08
Speaker
And then you get to the final fight.
00:35:10
Speaker
The objectives really aren't clear.
00:35:13
Speaker
the motivations for why anything is happening is, is not clear at all.
00:35:18
Speaker
And by the time you get to the end of this, you get to the final scene and that should be the climax of your movie.
00:35:23
Speaker
That should be the big moment.
00:35:25
Speaker
And I just wanted it to be over.
00:35:27
Speaker
I really did.
00:35:28
Speaker
I was like, just get done with this already.
00:35:29
Speaker
Like wrap it up.
00:35:30
Speaker
I honestly don't even care how you ended at this point.
00:35:33
Speaker
I just want you to end it.
00:35:35
Speaker
Right.
00:35:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:36
Speaker
That seriously, that, that was just, yeah, let's get this over with.
00:35:41
Speaker
I,
00:35:43
Speaker
At no point did I have fun.
00:35:47
Speaker
At no point was I sitting there going, okay, this is, this is interesting.
00:35:52
Speaker
It literally was just, okay, like, can we be done here?
00:35:57
Speaker
Like, I don't, I just, I just want this to be over.
00:36:02
Speaker
And that's,
00:36:04
Speaker
bad.
00:36:04
Speaker
Like that's, that's bad.
00:36:07
Speaker
It was a chore to actually watch this.
00:36:10
Speaker
Like, yes, there's, there's different, so there's different kinds of bad movies.
00:36:13
Speaker
Right.
00:36:14
Speaker
And yeah,
00:36:15
Speaker
It's like the last time I can think of a movie that there was this much of a chore to watch, that was this joyless to sit through was when we did the live action Super Mario Brothers.
00:36:25
Speaker
Like we've watched a lot of bad movies to review for this channel.
00:36:29
Speaker
And that's the closest I can remember to something that was just...
00:36:34
Speaker
absolutely like it.
00:36:36
Speaker
I kind of had to put it on like my to-do list on my day off of like, okay, I got to do the laundry.
00:36:41
Speaker
I got to mow the grass.
00:36:41
Speaker
I got to do this.
00:36:42
Speaker
I got to fix this, you know, hole in the wall.
00:36:44
Speaker
I got to patch this.
00:36:45
Speaker
I got to watch this stupid movie.
00:36:46
Speaker
Like it was, it was literally like a chore to get through.
00:36:50
Speaker
Um, the only, the only thing that I thought was really interesting and you mentioned it, but the airplane scene.
00:36:56
Speaker
So, uh, listeners, if you've never seen this movie and you really shouldn't,
00:36:59
Speaker
But if you, if you have seen this movie and you're kind of curious, they've got this, what is actually legitimately well constructed action scene where there's, they're in a plane and the plane is going down and they filmed it in one of those vomit comets where they help NASA astronauts get ready for weightlessness in space where, you know, the, the plane does like one of those parabolic things where it like climbs really high in the air and then it
00:37:25
Speaker
like plummet straight to the ground so that you've got this weightlessness, um, you know, simulating what it's like to be in space and how you have to move around and stuff like that.
00:37:33
Speaker
Cause you're literally in free fall.
00:37:35
Speaker
And they did something like that for this.
00:37:37
Speaker
And it was, I've not seen that before.
00:37:40
Speaker
And that I was like, wow, this is really cool.
00:37:43
Speaker
Um, it's very early in the movie.
00:37:45
Speaker
It's the only bright spot.
00:37:47
Speaker
They don't do anything else.
00:37:48
Speaker
Interesting.
00:37:48
Speaker
They don't do anything else.
00:37:49
Speaker
Unique.
00:37:50
Speaker
They don't do anything else that, that,
00:37:52
Speaker
is a reason to even remember it uh if you want a youtubeable moment this is the one like you can see that be like wow that was kind of cool um and then never ever even remember that this movie existed outside of that yeah that's a perfect way to sum it up and i mean this you know again this movie is it's not well liked it's
00:38:19
Speaker
It's 15% on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:38:23
Speaker
Who are those 15
Reflecting on Tom Cruise's Career
00:38:24
Speaker
percenters?
00:38:25
Speaker
Like, that's... Ah, they're the agents of the cast.
00:38:31
Speaker
Right?
00:38:32
Speaker
But, like, that's wild.
00:38:35
Speaker
Like, 15% is incredibly low.
00:38:39
Speaker
Like, that means people that even like Tom Cruise and will, like... Like, you think about that.
00:38:46
Speaker
It's just... It's crazy.
00:38:51
Speaker
I cannot believe how low this movie was and how universally it was not liked.
00:39:00
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:01
Speaker
Again, you think about this was a Tom Cruise movie, you know, when, when it seems like at this stage of his career, he could do no wrong.
00:39:09
Speaker
I mean, you know, what, what is the worst movie you can think of that he's been involved in other than this?
00:39:15
Speaker
Like, yeah, just think about his filmography.
00:39:17
Speaker
You think about some of the most iconic movies in cinema, you know, things like I'm just like quickly glancing at his filmography.
00:39:26
Speaker
Obviously, the Mission Impossible series, I think might be what most people will know him for that or top ground.
00:39:31
Speaker
It's one of those two.
00:39:32
Speaker
But, you know, like Risky Business, like Born on the Fourth of July.
00:39:37
Speaker
Like that was a big, iconic performance.
00:39:39
Speaker
A Few Good Men, The Firm, Interview with the Vampire, Jerry Maguire.
00:39:43
Speaker
I mean, who doesn't know Jerry Maguire?
00:39:46
Speaker
some of those things are just absolutely some of the most iconic films or iconic moments from films, you know, involve Tom Cruise.
00:39:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:57
Speaker
Even like some movies that didn't make, you know, a lot like oblivion, oblivion didn't make a lot of money.
00:40:03
Speaker
We loved oblivion, but I love, yeah, I love it.
00:40:05
Speaker
I mean, talk about another movie you think about, okay, what about days of thunder?
00:40:10
Speaker
I love days of thunder with him.
00:40:12
Speaker
This, this honestly might be,
00:40:16
Speaker
Even the Jack Reacher movies.
00:40:18
Speaker
I like this.
00:40:19
Speaker
This might be the worst movie that he's a part of.
00:40:23
Speaker
I'm a big fan of the last samurai.
00:40:25
Speaker
I think you are as well.
00:40:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:26
Speaker
The last samurai is, I know some people were, you know, I know that some people, you know, have certain things to say about that movie because of, you know, Tom Cruise being a white male and, you know, the setting, but, oh my God, that movie is so good.
00:40:43
Speaker
But yeah, like this,
00:40:45
Speaker
I think it can be stated.
00:40:46
Speaker
This is the worst movie that he is a part of.
00:40:50
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:51
Speaker
I'm just trying to think if there's anything that even comes close, but yeah.
00:40:55
Speaker
I think that's, this has gotta be it.
00:40:57
Speaker
I mean, it's wide shut has its detractors.
00:41:00
Speaker
Cause it's kind of a different sort of vibe, but it's not this.
00:41:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:05
Speaker
Yeah, no, right.
00:41:06
Speaker
Yeah, no, it is.
00:41:08
Speaker
It is not this at all.
00:41:10
Speaker
Like,
00:41:11
Speaker
Oh, geez.
00:41:12
Speaker
But yeah, I feel like it's a wrap.
00:41:17
Speaker
And this has only happened a couple other times where it's just, you know, there's nothing to say.
00:41:23
Speaker
There's nothing to say about this movie.
00:41:25
Speaker
It's not something that I want to sit there and just bash on.
00:41:29
Speaker
Because again, I don't think anybody ever goes into a movie like this saying, I want this to be bad or
00:41:37
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anything else like that.
00:41:38
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But this just for me is there's something that I don't think I like, I would never have any reason to watch this movie again.
00:41:48
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I just, I don't see the point behind it.
00:41:50
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So I'm going to be ready with my, with my final rating, unless you have anything else that you are adding.
00:41:58
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Let's grab some popcorn.
00:41:59
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All right.
00:42:00
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So popcorn time, we're going to rate this movie out of five buckets and I'm
00:42:05
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It's for me, this is a half bucket movie.
00:42:08
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There's, there's one scene, like you said, that's that plane crash that I think is actually a good piece of film.
00:42:15
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I don't like the dialogue.
00:42:17
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I don't like the characters.
00:42:19
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Nobody's relatable.
00:42:21
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It's actually a I think it's actually a really poorly shot movie on my final thoughts.
00:42:26
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It's one of those movies that's dark for the sense of being dark in terms of lighting.
00:42:32
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It doesn't seem it's not for the universe that it's in.
00:42:36
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It just feels like a very poorly shot movie.
00:42:39
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And for the production budget, that's unacceptable.
00:42:43
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But this is a half bucket for me.
00:42:46
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I am also exactly at a half bucket for the exact same reasons.
00:42:51
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The reason it is not no buckets is because of that airplane scene being just so cool and really unique that I've never seen before.
The Rapid Cancellation of the Dark Universe
00:43:00
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Without re-saying everything you already said, even the score of this movie isn't particularly memorable.
00:43:06
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Like, I can't even really consider that as part of it.
00:43:09
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So, yeah, it's just one of those things that everybody involved in is just kind of like, yeah, we're not really sure what that was.
00:43:16
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Um, and even though I, you know, we've said all that, I said it earlier as well.
00:43:22
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I actually feel like despite all this, weirdly, I still would have given the dark universe another movie to try to get it together and, and figure out a way to pull something in that would have made us actually compelled and interested.
00:43:36
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I don't know where they would have taken it, but if you would have given me a really good,
00:43:41
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Dracula interpretation or a really good take on Frankenstein's monster.
00:43:46
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You might've been able to get me to look past this one and still been into the dark universe.
00:43:51
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But, um, much like the way of Batgirl, this whole thing got scrapped.
00:43:56
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Um, and who knows what it could have been.
00:43:58
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And it's, it's crazy because you have to assume that there are scripts out there or at least treatments for what was going to happen in these other movies that,
00:44:07
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And I'm morbidly curious what those plans would have been.
00:44:12
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Yeah, that's that's the biggest thing to come out of this movie is, OK, what would your what would your plans have been?
00:44:20
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What was the end game?
00:44:21
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I would have loved to finally get some sort of answer of this is where we were headed.
00:44:27
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This was the direction.
00:44:28
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But yeah, I even with all of this, I still wish we would have gotten something else because I've seen things do worse than this.
00:44:35
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and get sequels and get things still greenlit.
00:44:39
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So this always has been a curious case for me that it got pulled so quickly because they were, it was so funny how quickly they were behind this immediately with, Oh yeah.
00:44:54
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Like you said, it's an entertainment weekly.
00:44:55
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Here's a picture of the cast.
00:44:57
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This is what we're doing.
00:44:58
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And then boom,
00:45:01
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Like literally you turned around and it was, no, that's, that's not a thing anymore.
00:45:05
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Nevermind.
00:45:07
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Yeah.
00:45:07
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They did the whole thing on an etch a sketch and then just shook it up and wiped it clean.
00:45:10
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Yep.
00:45:10
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Yeah.
00:45:11
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Literally.
00:45:11
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So that that's the biggest curiosity to come from.
00:45:14
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This is what would this have been?
00:45:16
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What were your plans?
00:45:18
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Um,
00:45:18
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Maybe we'll get something down the road where, you know, we finally got all those things on, you know, the Superman lives movie with Nicolas Cage.
00:45:26
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And we found out what that was supposed to be.
00:45:29
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Like, maybe somewhere down the line, we'll get something like that.
00:45:32
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You kind of wonder because there's there's definitely precedent for scrapped scripts.
00:45:38
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being turned into something else.
00:45:41
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And, you know, I think I mentioned this one other time.
00:45:43
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I don't remember which episode it was, but if you look at movies like Lethal Weapon and Die Hard and Speed, those three films are all kind of linked together in that they've all had movies in their franchises that were actually written for
00:46:00
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another franchise, uh, like from each other.
00:46:03
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So like you can kind of pass them around and, and it's, and just read, name the characters and it still kind of works.
Concluding Reflections on The Mummy
00:46:10
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I I'd be curious if anybody ever takes a treatment for one of these and adapts it into its own standalone film, because you can still get people to go to the movies to see a good monster movie.
00:46:19
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I mean,
00:46:20
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heck, look at what's going on with King Kong and Godzilla.
00:46:23
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You know, there's, there's a full on franchise there that people are into.
00:46:28
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Um, you can get people to see this.
00:46:29
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I mean, look at what happened with the shape of water.
00:46:31
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You know, that was basically the creature from the black lagoon.
00:46:35
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Um, people will, people will come out for this stuff.
00:46:38
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Um, you just can't do it like Van Helsing or Lee of extraordinary gentlemen or the mummy.
00:46:44
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Yeah.
00:46:44
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And even with Van Helsing though, at least like,
00:46:48
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To me, Van Helsing is kind of in the same tier as like the mummy movies.
00:46:52
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Not as good, but like it's at least fun.
00:46:55
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There's a certain charm there.
00:46:56
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Like you can tell there's connections between the characters.
00:47:00
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Like I have a fun time watching Van Helsing.
00:47:02
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It's not a good movie by any stretch of the imagination.
00:47:06
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I still have fun with it, though.
00:47:08
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Yeah.
00:47:08
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But all right.
00:47:10
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Well.
00:47:11
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I mean, that will do it.
00:47:12
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Unfortunately, this is one of those, you know, rare movies where it is.
00:47:18
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It's just a bad movie, which sometimes is a damper to watch.
00:47:21
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So, Rob, I do appreciate you letting me bully you into it.
00:47:27
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Yeah.
00:47:28
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So, but listeners, if you have not yet, Rob has recently finished another episode of the extended podcast universe with the movie snatch, which was actually a three man job, which was actually really good for, uh,
00:47:46
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The three people never being together.
00:47:48
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I really, really enjoyed that episode.
00:47:50
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A couple of drives to work and I was able to listen to the whole thing.
00:47:54
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And I thoroughly enjoyed that.
00:47:56
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So if you haven't been able to listen to that yet, I highly recommend you take that and check out what that movie meant to those guys and their thoughts.
00:48:06
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Thank you.
00:48:06
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Yeah, I appreciate it.
00:48:07
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It was a good time.
00:48:08
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Obviously, I've got my brother, Eric, but we invited one of my best friends from college, BJ.
00:48:15
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We actually lived together for two years and was in my wedding and stays a great friend to this day.
00:48:23
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We had a lot of fun going back and revisiting a movie that meant a lot to us at the time that he and I spent a lot of time actually when we lived together rewatching as a couple of broke college students and much in the same way that we were just driving around Youngstown, Ohio, just talking about this kind of stuff.
00:48:38
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It was kind of similar.
00:48:40
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This time we did it with microphones and recording equipment.
00:48:43
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Yeah.
00:48:43
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Yeah, definitely check it out if you've not had a chance to yet, listeners.
00:48:47
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It was a lot of fun, and we hope you enjoy it, too.
00:48:49
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Very cool.
00:48:50
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Well, once again, listeners, thank you so much for joining us.
00:48:53
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