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The Mummy Returns
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The evil mummy Imhotep returns to wreak havoc as he resumes his relentless search for power and immortality. To make matters worse, another ancient evil has been unleashed, even more dangerous than Imhotep. Only the heroic Rick O'Connell and his intrepid Egyptologist wife stand in the way of these twin terrors as they embark upon a desperate mission to save the world.
Release date: May 4, 2001 (USA)
Director: Stephen Sommers
Box office: 435 million USD
Distributed by: Universal Pictures
Edited by: Bob Ducsay; Kelly Matsumoto
Music by: Alan Silvestri
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Transcript
Introduction to The Mummy Series
00:00:01
Speaker
Hey, what's up, listeners?
00:00:03
Speaker
We are back, and we are continuing with the Mummy series.
00:00:08
Speaker
Now, we originally did the Tom Cruise movie called Mummy that was supposed to launch the Dark Universe, and we figured since we punished ourselves, we would actually...
Does The Mummy Returns Hold Up?
00:00:23
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have a little bit of fun and watch the original mummy movie.
00:00:28
Speaker
Well, I shouldn't say original cause that would be way back.
00:00:32
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Um, but the Brendan Fraser, now we went over the first one and that was certainly as fun as I remember it.
00:00:40
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But what about the mummy returns?
00:00:42
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Does that one still hold up today?
00:00:45
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That's what we're going to talk about.
00:00:47
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Rob, obviously you're back to talk about this and,
00:00:52
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You know, my initial thoughts are it does.
00:00:55
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There are some things about this that it's not as tight as the first one in certain aspects.
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But without getting too much into it, still a very enjoyable film.
00:01:07
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It is as enjoyable as I remember
Character Progression and Parental Dynamics
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it.
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It is as enjoyable also as I remember it.
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I've never had a bad time watching this movie.
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I think it's interesting to watch them back to back the way that we have been and kind of just see some of the things that you may not have picked up on.
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If you if you kind of put a little bit of space in between them.
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I think there's some really interesting character progressions that happen here.
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We talked about how great Rick and Evie were.
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As as a couple and as a dynamic duo in the first film and the natural progression of that relationship happens here.
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And and there's some really great bits between the two of them.
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They work so well on screen.
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They're parents now.
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There's so many things that work and feel like just the film and the characters within it of the first one have progressed naturally.
00:01:55
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Everything makes sense.
00:01:57
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And then there are some things that don't necessarily work super well, but overall, like if you've never seen this movie and you're trying to decide if you should watch it or not, you should watch this movie.
00:02:07
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This is, this is a ton of fun and I'm glad that we got a chance to revisit this.
00:02:11
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Yeah, no,
Critiquing the CGI and Visual Effects
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I am too.
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And you know, I I'd like to talk first about a couple of the things that I know have been talked about over time.
00:02:20
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Um, and a couple of nitpicks, but yeah,
00:02:23
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We'll get those out, you know, we'll get those out of the way.
00:02:27
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One is, you know, this was a big deal.
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It was going to be the, you know, one of the, a really big role for Dwayne, the rock Johnson, who at the time, you know, was really kind of coming in to the movie industry and starting to do things.
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Um,
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playing the Scorpion King, which would get its own spinoff.
00:02:50
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I only recognize one of those movies that stars him, but, um, you know, horrible, horrible CGI.
00:03:01
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for him in this movie uh it it's almost worse for me in this day and age because we've seen some really good cgi over the years so when there's really bad cgi from previous you know from past movies it sticks out like a sore thumb to me um and it did so more than ever on this rewatch
00:03:23
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Yeah, and I think I know which scene specifically you're talking about, but the opening, this oasis in the desert, it just really shows how far CGI has come.
00:03:33
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It is bad in the beginning, and it only gets worse.
00:03:36
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So you're talking about when he shows up at the end of the movie as the Scorpion version of the Scorpion King.
00:03:45
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So let's just go ahead and get into it, because I think that's one of this movie's
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longest lasting kind of images.
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They have this, and I'd kind of forgotten the setup.
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So they have this moment where
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You know, you kind of get the idea that the Scorpion King is going to come.
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He's the next thing that's kind of coming out.
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So they've got him in this shadow and it's dark and you can see the silhouette, but you can't really see him.
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And then you see him and you just wish they would have left him in the dark because holy cow, does he look terrible?
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He looks so plastic.
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He could choke half of all the world's sea life.
00:04:22
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It is absolutely atrocious.
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He looks like a cut scene from like a Dreamcast game.
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Even worse, the early episodes of South Park that were made out of construction paper looked better.
00:04:35
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The Rock's wrestling career was more realistic than his CG design.
00:04:40
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It literally looks like someone tried to put The Rock's face on the dancing baby's body from the late 90s.
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Remember the Uga Chaka baby?
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Yes.
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That's what The Rock...
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character of the scorpion king looks like if somebody took his face on the dancing baby's body it's it is by far my favorite example of bad cg that's ever been used in a movie this is the high water mark for just good enough right yeah
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It's almost like they ran out of budget or something.
Continuity Issues and Character Tropes
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So you have some questionable CGI in this movie for sure.
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One of the other things, some of the framing and some of the shots are not as tight in this movie as it was the first.
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And, you know, one glaring one, and it stuck with me when I first saw it.
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And it's always just been a thing.
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That first scene, well, not the first scene, but when we first get introduced to the O'Connells, we find out, you know, they're exploring another tomb.
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you know, salvaging, scalvaging, whatever you want to, you know, whatever it's actually called.
00:05:54
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How is their eight-year-old boy face-to-face with Rick when he startles him?
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Because the next shot, he's not standing on a crate.
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There's nothing there.
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How are they face-to-face in that scene?
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Movie magic, I guess.
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I always thought like, wait, how the hell are like, I always thought that when I first saw that, like, wait, how the hell are they even, how are they at eye level right now with each other?
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Like it makes maybe he ate one of those, like eat me and drink me things from Alice in Wonderland that makes you shrink and grow really fast.
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Right.
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It's, it was just a weird scene.
00:06:38
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Um, I know also some people have complained about the continuity of that.
00:06:43
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Alex shouldn't actually be the age that he is.
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The time doesn't actually add up.
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Um, but that's something that I can just say.
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Yeah.
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I don't really care.
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Like,
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There's a moment in the movie they say something about nine years has passed since the events of the first one.
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I believe that that number stands out.
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Does that sound familiar to you?
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Something like that, yeah.
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He looks maybe a little older than that.
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And he's definitely... He behaves a lot older than that, I guess is what I would say.
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It's a little... I'm with you.
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The continuity there feels a little off.
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But it's one of those things where...
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in a movie that's not as much fun with characters that we don't like as much, we don't forgive those things as easily.
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Those things would stand out and be bothersome in a movie that is less fun to throw on, have a great time, enjoy, laugh, and just really get pulled into.
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Yep.
00:07:44
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Yeah, absolutely.
00:07:46
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And again, that will...
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be talked about with these movies, strong suits.
00:07:51
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One other thing, again, I want to get these out of the way is, you know, the movie does have a pretty big retcon.
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with Rick having the tattoo that he's a warrior of the Magi, because there are so many opportunities in that first movie to see his wrist, and specifically where they have this on his arm, where they have this tattoo in the second movie.
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It is clear as day.
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You don't have a goddamn tattoo in the first movie at all.
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The whole previously unseen and unmentioned tattoo bit has always been one of my least favorite aspects of this movie.
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And honestly, and yes, you're right.
00:08:36
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It is 100% a retcon because you can go back and everybody can clearly see in the first movie that it's not there.
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But even more that I don't need Rick to be the chosen one.
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I don't need him to be the
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uh, deemed special or fate is going to bring, I, I like his character better when he's kind of like the roguish wise ass who is confident.
00:09:01
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He has skills.
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He always gets himself into bad sticky situations, but always kind of finds himself getting out of it.
00:09:08
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Like, do you like Han Solo as he is, or do you like the idea that he's force sensitive?
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And that's how he always beats the odds.
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Cause I like the first one better.
00:09:17
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Yeah, I absolutely like the first version, that first idea of the character better.
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And I feel that same way about Rick.
00:09:24
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I don't, in fact, I actually dislike the idea of him as this chosen one.
00:09:29
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And that's how he's always, he's faded and destined to get into ancient Egypt and find all of these supernatural objects of power and, and be able to defeat them because he's the one that's chosen.
00:09:43
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I hate that bit.
00:09:44
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Yeah.
00:09:45
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Um,
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And then the last thing is, you know, this is one of those.
00:09:51
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And again, these are things that would be very hard to look past in a bad movie because it's, it would just be thing after thing after thing.
00:09:59
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But the last thing that I was like, yeah, that's why I don't feel this movie is as tight as the mummy, but yeah,
00:10:08
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are we supposed to really believe and, and maybe you chalk it up to the fact that the kid's distraught because he's trying to bring his mom back from the dead.
00:10:18
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Um, are we supposed to believe that Alex, after reading that whole goddamn book and seeing how smart he is throughout the entire movie, he can't remember the one symbol that his uncle Jonathan knows.
00:10:32
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Yeah.
00:10:33
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And, and this is one of the things I kind of alluded to earlier when you watch these back to back, um,
00:10:39
Speaker
the the three-way battle climax is cool like when there's like three different but you've got the magi on the outside fighting the uh the the you know supernatural army yeah no business army yeah you've got rick battling imhotep and and you've got evie battling an oxen and moon and knocks into moon you can't even pronounce all these things but then like the whole um
00:11:04
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like remembering the line, like they're in the middle of a battle and they're trying to yell out Egyptian translations to each other.
00:11:13
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They just did that in the first movie.
00:11:16
Speaker
Like we just watched that and they just redid the same gag.
00:11:20
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And it's funny, like it's well done, but we've just seen this.
00:11:26
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And I like, I never really kind of noticed that until this time.
00:11:30
Speaker
Cause we just watched the other one two weeks ago.
00:11:32
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Right.
00:11:34
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Yeah.
00:11:35
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And again, those are things that are, again, don't make this movie as well-rounded as the first one.
00:11:44
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Not to say I haven't enjoyed it because I really did.
00:11:47
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And you mentioned it.
00:11:49
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And it, again, it is this cast.
00:11:53
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It is.
00:11:54
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It is the cast.
00:11:55
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They work well off each other.
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The addition.
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I don't know the actor's name who plays Alex.
00:12:01
Speaker
It's I don't know it off the top of my head, but he is very good.
00:12:05
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It is very believable that he is Rick and Evie's son.
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I do like his relationship with Jonathan.
00:12:12
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Like it does feel like a family dynamic.
00:12:15
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Yeah.
00:12:16
Speaker
And he feels like that kid in the actor's name is Freddie both, by the way.
00:12:21
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Okay.
00:12:22
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Alex feels like he should be Rick and Evie's kid.
00:12:28
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100%.
00:12:28
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Like very well written, well cast and, and well directed because he's a young, very, very young kid in this to be able to pull off what he pulls off.
00:12:38
Speaker
You know, he's in quite a bit of peril at different points of this movie.
00:12:42
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And yet he's able to balance the,
00:12:45
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how scared a kid should be when you've got that scary guard with him all the time with, you know, still being resourceful, still getting, you can see the elements that he inherited from his mom.
00:12:57
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You can see the elements he inherited from his dad.
00:12:59
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It's really kind of like,
00:13:01
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you know, the boil down the best of the two of them together, the most interesting and unique aspects of the two of them together.
00:13:08
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And he still is able to pull that off.
00:13:10
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And sometimes with kids, that's hard to do.
00:13:12
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You know, you think about how much he was asked to do in this.
00:13:15
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Um, I, I just, I love that character.
00:13:17
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And, uh, you know, I, I think it was just incredibly well executed.
00:13:22
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Like I said, there's, there's so many challenging things for him to, to have to do.
00:13:28
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And it's, you know, it's, it's well done.
Villains and Memorable Moments
00:13:31
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Um, you kind of mentioned there's some things that we, we sort of, we, we love this movie, but we kind of go, eh, if this was a lesser movie, we, we dislike this.
00:13:40
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I, I love myself a good sword fight.
00:13:42
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I mean, there's, there's few things I love in movies more.
00:13:45
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I would rather watch a great sword fight than a, than a gun battle any day.
00:13:48
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I just, there's so much more interesting.
00:13:50
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There's so many more interesting things you can do.
00:13:52
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And this movie's got a pretty good one.
00:13:55
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But it's it only becomes a good sword fight because everybody involved in the sword fight agrees with like unspoken agrees to forget they have guns, too.
00:14:06
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Yep.
00:14:07
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And that kind of like those kinds of things bother me.
00:14:10
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It's like, OK, we can do that.
00:14:11
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But couldn't we have just like shot all of the ammo at first and you just see them tossing their guns to the side?
00:14:17
Speaker
Like those kind of things do tend to stand out to me and kind of bother me a little bit.
00:14:22
Speaker
The other thing I want to know, you know, we've watched a lot of Indiana Jones movies this year.
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We're watching The Mummy.
00:14:28
Speaker
And in all of these movies that involve ancient sealed tombs, there's always piles of snakes or scorpions.
00:14:35
Speaker
Why are they here?
00:14:37
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And what exactly have they been eating for the last two to three thousand years?
00:14:40
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Like, right.
00:14:41
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Why aren't they just dust?
00:14:42
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how are those still there?
00:14:43
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Like, I always want to know the answer to that.
00:14:45
Speaker
Like, it's a cool effect and it makes for this, you know, great creepy, gross out, like, you know, trap that the heroes have to get through when, when you see this kind of movie.
00:14:53
Speaker
But I always want to know, like, how are they, how are they surviving?
00:14:56
Speaker
Like, how is there even oxygen in some of these places?
00:15:00
Speaker
Yeah, no, that is, that is interesting.
00:15:02
Speaker
Um, again, cool, like, you know, cool shot, everything like that.
00:15:08
Speaker
And I'll tell you the one other thing that I always have to, it just occurred to me watching this.
00:15:12
Speaker
Like we see kind of setups like this in a lot of movies, but it is a bit weird to me that these ancient priests would hate and fear someone so much that they would curse them for this life and the next, but also create a mechanism whereby they could be brought back to life.
00:15:29
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Right.
00:15:30
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And have world conquering level power all at the same time.
00:15:33
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It does feel a bit weird that they do both.
00:15:35
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It's like, all right, we're going to lock this door, but we're going to give you like the star man.
00:15:39
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When you get out somehow, if you do this one secret thing, this one secret way, if this one person reads this one word, boom, you're back.
00:15:49
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It does feel a bit weird.
00:15:51
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Yeah, no, it is.
00:15:52
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We mentioned that in the first movie, too.
00:15:54
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Like, you know, you sit there and it's like, okay, you just, you freaking kill him and you, like, why?
00:16:03
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Why would you do that?
00:16:04
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Yeah.
00:16:06
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But you gave him a get out of jail free card.
00:16:08
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Yeah.
00:16:09
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You had mentioned earlier how, you know, during that ending battle, you know, well, because we watch these movies back to back, we just saw that.
00:16:18
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But one thing that I do want to say, not about that scene, but I want to talk about the because we just watched the first one two weeks ago.
00:16:27
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Well, we just saw that what I actually really like about this movie and I appreciate it more now is
00:16:35
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after seeing the first one so close to the second one, because again, we had to wait a couple of years originally, is the simple fact of sometimes it is very tough to make it so that
00:16:51
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repeating the villain in the very next movie feels any different or has us caring at all.
00:17:00
Speaker
But there's just that.
00:17:01
Speaker
And you said character progression, and there's just something about,
00:17:07
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Emotep being the villain again, because, again, the Scorpion Kings in this movie for what?
00:17:14
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All of five minutes, six minutes, maybe maybe eight max.
00:17:19
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Realistically, at the beginning, he's he's got a little bit and he and they don't even really give him much to say.
00:17:25
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And what's interesting, if we get around to watching the actual Scorpion King movie,
00:17:29
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The number of lines of dialogue they give The Rock in that movie is almost nothing, which is probably for the best because this was really at the beginning of his film career where he was very limited with what he could feasibly pull off on camera outside of action scenes.
00:17:45
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And I certainly believe you can see a progression in him and he's a legitimate movie star now, but it didn't always start that way.
00:17:53
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Yeah, no.
00:17:54
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And I'm talking about simply, too, for his screen time of being the actual Scorpion King.
00:18:01
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Like that model of him is not in this movie long.
00:18:04
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So Imhotep is still the main villain, but he feels different.
00:18:10
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I still like him.
00:18:12
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You know, I like the sort of new look, the black robe with the mask.
00:18:16
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Yeah.
00:18:18
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you know, it's a different take on it, but again, it's still the same scene where he raises the water up and chases the ship.
00:18:26
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Um, and it's his face in it too.
00:18:28
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Right.
00:18:28
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And it's his face in it.
00:18:29
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But again, um,
00:18:32
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it does feel different, not just because like, oh, it's water and not sand, but I'm still interested in Emotep.
00:18:41
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I'm still like, yeah, this is good.
00:18:43
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And, you know, talking about Alex and, you know, that actor that was given a lot in this movie, again, he does it where like, yeah, he's scared for certain things, but he's a smart ass with the guard.
00:18:55
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Are we there yet?
00:18:55
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Are we there yet?
00:18:56
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Are we there yet?
00:18:57
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I have to go to the bathroom.
00:18:58
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You know, when he's face to face with Emotep,
00:19:01
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You know, my dad is going to kick your ass.
00:19:04
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And I actually believe that.
00:19:06
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Like, I believe he would like, I believe he would say that.
00:19:09
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Like, and where you said, like, it's totally feasible that like that is Rick and Evie son.
00:19:15
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That's why that line works for me.
00:19:17
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It's because I'm like, yeah, you know what?
00:19:19
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I think this kid would say that to this guy.
00:19:22
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Absolutely.
00:19:23
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And if you're trying to place where the that red guard guy that was primarily falling, if you're trying to place him,
00:19:32
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The actor's first name is Adewale, and I'm not going to butcher his last name and disrespect him by not being able to pronounce it properly.
00:19:39
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But he's actually been in quite a few things.
00:19:43
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You might recognize him most recently as Killer Croc in Suicide Squad.
00:19:46
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If you're kind of like, man, that guy's got a very, very recognizable voice.
00:19:50
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I know I've seen him somewhere or heard that voice somewhere.
00:19:55
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That might be where you were hearing it most recently.
00:19:59
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You know, you were talking a little bit about just their their progression and the believability, especially of that family when their house is being attacked a little bit earlier than than the scene we were just talking about.
00:20:11
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One of the things I loved about this, Rick and Evie don't even need to speak the escape plan.
00:20:16
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He just hands her the pistol.
00:20:19
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They nod and proceed to kick ass.
00:20:21
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And that tells you that this is obviously not the first time they've done it.
00:20:25
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We've seen them kick ass together in the first movie.
00:20:27
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This is clearly not the second, third or fourth time that they found themselves in this kind of situation.
00:20:33
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And they just know what to do.
00:20:36
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And it's communicated that way so well together.
00:20:41
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And I just love seeing how that progression has happened.
00:20:45
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And when we get to the Tomb of the Dragon Emperor, it just makes that movie just so much more sad when you see how that progression has moved into this.
00:20:56
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The bus scene that happens immediately after that.
00:20:59
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that has always been among my favorite action adventure set piece moments in movies.
00:21:06
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Like it's just, it's great.
00:21:09
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It's so memorable.
00:21:10
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And it's like, I knew it was one of my favorite scenes that I knew was coming and it happened and I still loved it.
00:21:17
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And I just, it's so much fun.
00:21:19
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Well, even because again, you have the setup before that and it's going back and watching these things.
00:21:27
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Number one, the setup of,
00:21:30
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uh, Evie, what are you doing, hon?
00:21:32
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These guys don't use doors.
00:21:34
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Like, that's pretty funny.
00:21:37
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And then that bus coming around the corner and like Jonathan and Alex arguing is actually funny at no point in time.
00:21:46
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And again, like in a lesser movie, you might stop and go, you idiot, shut up.
00:21:51
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Like you wouldn't be arguing, but like, I believe that this family dynamic with those two, they would, uh,
00:21:57
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take that time to be like, well, it's your fault.
00:22:00
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You broke the key.
00:22:01
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Like, I believe that would happen.
00:22:03
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And I love that bus scene.
00:22:05
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And, uh, you know, this is, it's not the first example.
00:22:10
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It's not the first example, but it's just another part in this movie where you sit there and go, man, Rick's a really good dad.
00:22:24
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Yeah.
00:22:24
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Like he just, he takes off after, like he just takes off after Alex on foot.
00:22:31
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Um,
00:22:32
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to try and go after him.
00:22:34
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And, you know, when he picks him up and he's running with him to get to the temple, because the legend is that if he doesn't reach the pyramid by the seventh day, like, you know, Alex will, the bracelet will like suck the life out of him.
00:22:49
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And he picks him up and he's running with him and he jumps in.
00:22:52
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He's like, you know, being a dad's not easy.
00:22:55
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And Alex is like, but you're really good at it.
00:22:57
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Again, that's like a really, really wholesome moment.
00:23:00
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And I'm like, oh, you two are,
00:23:02
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You two are cute.
00:23:03
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You know what I mean?
00:23:06
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Yeah, 100%.
00:23:06
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And, you know, we were talking about how much Rick and Evie work and you believe their progression as husband and wife.
00:23:12
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You also 100% believe them as a mother and father to this boy.
00:23:18
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And you believe Alex's character is their child and has those same reciprocated feelings to his parents.
00:23:26
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Like that whole family dynamic.
00:23:28
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And actually, I'll include Jonathan in there as well.
00:23:31
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Yeah.
00:23:31
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The only part of that foursome dynamic that I think doesn't work at all is towards the end of the movie when Evie is killed before she's resurrected.
00:23:42
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You know, Jonathan, as her brother, really doesn't seem all that distraught.
00:23:50
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Like he is trying to comfort Alex, but I felt kind of like even as like kind of his morals at times are a bit dodgy, let's say, you know, at best.
00:24:02
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But even still, I just kind of felt like, I don't know, dude, I think you should be a little more worked up than you are right now.
00:24:09
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That's the only complaint that I have in terms of that.
00:24:12
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Everything else about the four of them and their dynamic and the ebb and the flow of how they work together and fit together and everything is believable and effective and works is flawless.
00:24:25
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Yeah.
00:24:25
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And I think, too, that stands out with Jonathan in that scene, because, you know, when that happens, and that was certainly surprising to me when I first saw this movie, I was like, like, whoa, no way.
00:24:36
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Yeah.
00:24:38
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But I think why Jonathan stands out a little bit more as well is because, you know, when that happens and Rick sees it and he runs out there and he's like, Evie, Evie, but he's also sitting there.
00:24:49
Speaker
And again, this is why I like Rick so much in these movies.
00:24:52
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And Brendan Fraser's performance is so good.
00:24:55
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Um, he says the line, he's like, what do I do?
00:24:58
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What do I do?
00:24:59
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And I'm interpreting that.
00:25:01
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And maybe I'm wrong here.
00:25:04
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But he still knows that there's this thing behind him.
00:25:08
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Like, Imhotep is in the temple.
00:25:10
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He needs to get into the pyramids.
00:25:13
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Like, there's still this danger lurking where if Imhotep gets in there and takes over the Scorpion King's army, it's over.
00:25:22
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But, you know, his duty as a husband and him asking her, like, what do I do?
00:25:27
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Because he's like...
00:25:30
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He's like torn right there.
00:25:32
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His duty is to his wife, but he also understands that I got to stop this guy.
00:25:39
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There's a lot of ways you could interpret him saying, what do I do?
00:25:43
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Immediately, I took it to have multiple, multiple meanings, kind of what you're talking about.
00:25:47
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What do I do as in, how do I save you?
00:25:50
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How do I apply pressure to stop bleeding or bandage?
00:25:55
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Or is there a medicinal plant nearby I can give you?
00:25:58
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What do I do?
00:26:00
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Or what do I do as in
00:26:04
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realizing that this is possibly fatal.
00:26:06
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What do I do now with life and raising our son?
00:26:11
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And what do I do as in how do I defeat the big bad that is literally in the pyramid behind me?
00:26:15
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You know, there's there's all of those layers of subtext.
00:26:19
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And you wouldn't expect to find that in this style of movie.
00:26:26
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Right.
00:26:27
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And yet here it is.
00:26:29
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Yeah.
00:26:29
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And I think that was a really good, you know, I think that was a really good scene.
00:26:34
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I also think he shows really good range and emotion when he actually goes in to fight Emotep.
00:26:43
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And, you know, he's he's obviously angry.
00:26:46
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He's a little bit more aggressive fighting Emotep.
00:26:51
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And I even love the little acknowledgement at the end when.
00:26:58
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you know, Evie runs to save Rick.
00:27:02
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And he's like, don't like, like don't Evie.
00:27:05
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And she's like, she runs because they're both hanging over the edge.
00:27:08
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And, you know, a knocks on the moon actually leaves emo tap.
00:27:12
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And just that, you know, that acknowledgement of.
Action and Family Dynamics
00:27:16
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Okay.
00:27:17
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Like,
00:27:19
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you know, you guys have what, what I wanted or what I once had and not all's for, you know, not all's forgiven, but it was just, it was cool.
00:27:27
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It was, I thought it was a good moment.
00:27:29
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I liked that actually a lot.
00:27:32
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Yeah.
00:27:33
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Um, I, I think it was very telling, you know, who's, whose relationship matters more to each other.
00:27:39
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You know, one, one person was willing to, you know, kill lots of people and raise and perform these rituals to raise a guy from the dead.
00:27:46
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And, um,
00:27:48
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By the way, can we talk about how cool the costuming detail was on Anox and Amun's reincarnated character where it's kind of got the opening in the sleeves where it sort of mirrors the paint from the first movie?
00:28:02
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That was such a cool detail to me and a nice callback that I don't know if you would necessarily notice it or catch it if you hadn't seen it somewhat recently or just watch these movies with frequency.
00:28:14
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But I definitely picked it up this time, and I'm not sure I'd ever really caught that before.
00:28:17
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But I was like, wow, that's a really cool kind of throwback and a little, I wouldn't even call it an Easter egg, but just it was a really cool choice that I'm glad they did.
00:28:26
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There's a scene a little bit earlier where, and again, I don't love the idea of the reincarnated destinies kind of pulling them all together, but...
00:28:35
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It does give you the opportunity to see Evie as Nefertiri, I think is how it's pronounced.
00:28:42
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I'm probably butchering it and I apologize.
00:28:45
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You know, with this fight with, you know, Egyptian equivalent of a Psy against a Noxun and a Moon.
00:28:52
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And there are parts of this throne room fight scene that suck.
00:28:57
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And they're not as bad as the last Jedi throne room fight scene, but it's not great all the time.
00:29:03
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There are some obvious missed hits.
00:29:06
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There's some real clunkiness and some slow parts where, you know, you should have used the stunt doubles.
00:29:12
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They actually know how to fight.
00:29:13
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Yeah.
00:29:14
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When they have to have the name actor have their face visible, that's when it noticeably slows way down.
00:29:22
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Prior to that, they're doing cartwheels and roundoffs and backflips and standing tucks and everything like that and have all this agility.
00:29:30
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And then as soon as the masks come up, it's much clunkier.
00:29:34
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Yeah.
00:29:36
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i i hate it when they do that just pull the camera back let us let us see just real fighters kick ass a little bit and leave the masks down so we don't have to pretend that it's not the actors yeah um no i i totally agree and you know quick little side side tour here but not a lot of new characters um
00:29:58
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Yeah.
00:29:59
Speaker
In this movie, there's the British create creator or however you say that curator who I don't really care for.
00:30:07
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I don't really care.
00:30:12
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I, you know, whatever.
00:30:13
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But I'll tell you what.
00:30:15
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One character I did love who's new was Izzy.
00:30:20
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And I thought he was funny.
00:30:21
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Yeah.
00:30:23
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the magic carpet.
00:30:24
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I thought that boat, you know, that, that hot air balloon slash ship was really cool.
00:30:30
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I also just, you know, you can tell that, and they talk about it, but you know, I sit there and based on their small interaction and how they are like, Oh man, I would have actually liked to see some of these adventures with Rick and Izzy.
00:30:44
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Um, yeah,
00:30:45
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They make, I'm like, that would have been cool to see.
00:30:48
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But he's fun.
00:30:49
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You know, he's funny.
00:30:50
Speaker
Unless you want to do it your way.
00:30:52
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Guns blazing, running in, getting your friend shot in the ass.
00:30:54
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Like, you know, he's another funny part of this movie.
00:30:59
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He was a really good addition.
00:31:01
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And
00:31:02
Speaker
Again, it's it's stupid.
00:31:03
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It really is.
00:31:04
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It's stupid, childish dialogue.
00:31:06
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But he is like, you give me that shiny stick thing.
00:31:08
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You can, you know, shave my head, wax me down and use me as a surfboard.
00:31:12
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And Rick's like, haven't we done that already?
00:31:15
Speaker
Again, that's like really childish.
00:31:17
Speaker
But again, they play it so well.
00:31:19
Speaker
And this cast works so great off each other that that's actually funny.
00:31:23
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It's a really childish line.
00:31:26
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But it's funny.
00:31:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:31:28
Speaker
It is funny.
00:31:28
Speaker
And, you know, something you just kind of mentioned really got me thinking, like, there's really not that many new characters in this movie.
00:31:36
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And think about when you when you go to a sequel, how often, you know, either people don't want to come back or you killed somebody off or whatever the case is.
00:31:45
Speaker
I mean, you've got you're saying big bad.
00:31:48
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from the first movie.
00:31:49
Speaker
You've got a lot of the original cast.
00:31:52
Speaker
There's not that many characters in this.
00:31:55
Speaker
And I don't consider the extra magi or the extra people that are with the curator.
00:32:01
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I don't consider those honestly new characters because they're not... They're background.
00:32:09
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I don't consider them actual characters.
00:32:12
Speaker
There's a focus on them.
00:32:15
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They're just part of...
00:32:18
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a bigger picture, but they're a very small part of that picture.
00:32:23
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Yeah.
New Characters and Series Potential
00:32:24
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And the fact that nothing, you really didn't have to add that many new characters to this and it still works.
00:32:30
Speaker
We're still seeing kind of the same characters, even though they've progressed together on another adventure to stop the same big bad.
00:32:39
Speaker
It's like,
00:32:41
Speaker
it's really interesting that this works as well as it does.
00:32:44
Speaker
Um, it's not something I'd ever really thought that much about before we kind of started talking about it tonight.
00:32:51
Speaker
Um, and, and largely like, you know, it's still ancient Egypt, which it had kind of has to be with the movie called the mummy.
00:32:56
Speaker
But you think about all the ways that they could have said, okay, audiences like the first one.
00:33:01
Speaker
So we're going to give them a sequel, but we've got to change it in some way.
00:33:04
Speaker
So we're not giving them just the exact same thing.
00:33:07
Speaker
And they kind of gave us the same thing, but it's still, but it doesn't feel like the same thing.
00:33:13
Speaker
And I don't know how to describe it any better than that.
00:33:16
Speaker
Yeah, I don't really think we have to describe it, you know, really any better than that.
00:33:22
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And, you know, one thing that I thought about when I was watching this movie and I was getting ready to talk to you is, you know, all of their relationship and them having a kid.
00:33:38
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is just told to us.
00:33:42
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We don't actually see it.
00:33:44
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You know, we don't see any flashbacks of, you know, them having Christmas together or anything like that.
00:33:51
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It's just, Hey, these guys have had a kid.
00:33:54
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They've had some more adventures.
00:33:56
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They've, um, you know, gone some on some exploring, everything like that.
00:34:04
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And, um,
00:34:05
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it works so well and you believe it.
00:34:09
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And it made me think about the fact of going from the Phantom Menace to Attack of the Clones, which, you know, we talked about that movie at length in one of our other reviews.
00:34:25
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But you don't believe any.
00:34:30
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That's one of the reasons why I don't think it worked.
00:34:32
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And I mean, they're not together a lot, but
00:34:35
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I don't believe any of Anakin and Obi-Wan's relationship.
00:34:39
Speaker
Now, I know those prequels have, you know, over time been reviewed in a much better light.
00:34:46
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We certainly saw that when Hayden Christensen came back that, you know, the crowd absolutely adored him and wanted him back.
00:34:52
Speaker
And that's great.
00:34:54
Speaker
But it's never going to change my opinion of those movies.
00:34:58
Speaker
And the fact that all of their relationship we were supposed to know, and certainly the Clone Wars TV show filled it in, we were supposed to believe their relationship grew and blossomed without seeing any of it.
00:35:15
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You don't see any of their relationship blossom, really, at all.
00:35:19
Speaker
And it doesn't work in that.
00:35:20
Speaker
But it works so well here.
00:35:24
Speaker
I think what that really speaks to is just the, the chemistry between actors and giving, and I think good direction and good shot selection to giving them the opportunity where things seem like a pattern.
00:35:39
Speaker
Things seem like they've been through this.
00:35:42
Speaker
Like there, there's a familiarity between the two of them that is obvious and present.
00:35:49
Speaker
And it's, uh, you know, it's, it's good casting too.
00:35:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:54
Speaker
I think it's, again, it is great casting.
00:35:57
Speaker
And I think that's, you know, when we get to Tomb of the Dragon Emperor, I always wonder, would the exact same movie simply be better without the casting change?
00:36:17
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Yeah.
00:36:19
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It's one of the great what ifs.
00:36:22
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Like, I've just, I've always, I've always wondered that because it was even before seeing the movie, you know, I remember even back then, because I've always just kind of, I've always had this thought process about movies, you know, as well before I decided to, you know, start recording on my phone three years ago and like, oh, maybe I'll just put some thoughts down because I'm at home because of freaking COVID and everything shut down.
00:36:51
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Um, I always looked at movies in that way as just, you know, and obviously Rob, you have too, but yeah, when, yeah, when that announcement was made, my thought was like, I don't know.
00:37:03
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I don't want to see anybody else in that role.
00:37:06
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And, and certainly that's been proven wrong before, you know, um, okay.
00:37:10
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It was recast.
00:37:11
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I mean, you know, I, I certainly think they got it right with Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner.
00:37:17
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I do think he was better.
00:37:20
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than Edward Norton.
00:37:21
Speaker
I, I actually like that first Hulk movie, but I do think Mark Ruffalo was the right choice.
00:37:27
Speaker
Um, particularly for the direction they took the character to.
00:37:32
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Right.
00:37:32
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Exactly.
00:37:33
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Um, you know, I still have never, and this was something we talked about.
00:37:38
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I, I certainly am not a fan really overall of, of Don Cheadle as, as Rhodey.
00:37:46
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Um,
00:37:48
Speaker
But there's not a lot of great track record of it working.
00:37:53
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But there certainly has been hits.
00:37:56
Speaker
But it didn't work for Tomb of the Dragon
Franchise Comparisons and Longevity
00:38:00
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Emperor.
00:38:00
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Unless when we...
00:38:02
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rewatch it.
00:38:02
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We're like, whoa, wait a minute.
00:38:04
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Like what were we like?
00:38:06
Speaker
What were we watching?
00:38:07
Speaker
And that kind of leads to some other what if.
00:38:09
Speaker
So what if she was in it?
00:38:12
Speaker
What would it have made the movie work?
00:38:14
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OK, so let's say it did.
00:38:16
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Let's say the movie works.
00:38:18
Speaker
Let's say they don't have to write around something.
00:38:19
Speaker
They can really focus more on the things that did work because she's there.
00:38:23
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and you have the ability to make that work.
00:38:26
Speaker
So is the movie received better?
00:38:28
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Does it continue on?
00:38:30
Speaker
Are we talking about the mummy 10?
00:38:32
Speaker
Right.
00:38:34
Speaker
Are we talking about, you know, Brendan Frazier stays more in the public eye?
00:38:39
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Yeah.
00:38:42
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Yeah.
00:38:42
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It's a lot of what ifs.
00:38:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:44
Speaker
There's a lot of what ifs with that, but, um,
00:38:47
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you know, it, it never happened.
00:38:49
Speaker
I still was surprised though.
00:38:51
Speaker
I mean, it still made money.
00:38:54
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Uh, I was always surprised that they did, you know, it never got another one.
00:39:00
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Um, certainly cause it was profitable and we've seen other movies that just, but also to Brendan Fraser kind of dropped out and, you know, um,
00:39:12
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really of kind of the Hollywood setting.
00:39:14
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So I'm sure, you know, obviously, because I do think I heard that there were talks about like continuing it without him before Tom Cruise, like before they even did the Tom Cruise one that there were talks of doing something still in this universe where they were going to continue.
00:39:33
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Now, maybe that was the Scorpion King and then the rock, you know, decided, no, I'm not doing it or whatever the case may be.
00:39:41
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And they brought in Randy Couture instead.
00:39:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:44
Speaker
You know, this is, you know, this is one of those series where it's like, yeah.
00:39:49
Speaker
Um, I, I could have seen it still getting some more miles.
00:39:52
Speaker
Um,
00:39:53
Speaker
But I mean, listen, there's definitely worse films than the Tomb of the Dragon Emperor in things like the Fast and the Furious franchise that continues to pump out sequels.
00:40:03
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There's definitely worse entries in Transformers and they keep making those movies.
00:40:07
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So, you know, anything's possible.
00:40:10
Speaker
But if I said to you, hey, there's a there's a teaser trailer getting launched tomorrow for the mummy four and they're all back.
00:40:19
Speaker
How fast do you buy tickets?
00:40:21
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Yeah, I'm on it.
00:40:22
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I'm on it immediately.
00:40:26
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So that'd be cool.
00:40:27
Speaker
But, you know, Rob, any, you know, any other topics that, you know, you want to talk about with the mummy returns?
00:40:34
Speaker
You know, there was you kind of mentioned the character of Izzy.
00:40:38
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That character, as kind of the comic relief, could have been written a lot of different ways and had him be less effective.
00:40:45
Speaker
I kind of feel very similar to the little pygmy zombies they run into in the jungle.
00:40:50
Speaker
And I feel like those little little things are just the right blend of funny, lethal things.
00:40:56
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you know, and a serious threat all at the same time.
00:41:00
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They're not overpowered, but they're also not cannon fodder in a way that it doesn't feel like their difficulty tier gets ramped up depending on if they're fighting heroes or red shirts.
00:41:13
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You know, like it feels like their abilities kind of in their
00:41:17
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you know, lethality kind of stays consistent.
00:41:21
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Overall, I think it's a really cool enemy they created specifically for this film to kind of just make something different from the first one.
00:41:28
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And it really did stand out to me.
00:41:29
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I'd kind of forgotten about that altogether until I saw it.
00:41:31
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And I liked that.
00:41:33
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I thought it was well done.
00:41:34
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Yeah.
00:41:34
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I thought that was well done too.
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We talked about it briefly in the beginning, but certainly, you know, this, this movie, it,
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starts to end with a really bad shot of that pyramid being sucked in because again, it's just a really crazy example of just, whoo boy CGI at the time.
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But again, it just, it really did like this movie left me wanting more and what more,
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Like, what more could you ask for than, boy, I would love to see another one.
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Now, again, we're going to find out whether or not that is, has, you know, has changed because certainly we got more.
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And for the most part, people are like, oh, never mind.
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I wish we would have stopped at two.
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But it'll be interesting to see.
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we're going to go with the Scorpion King next, and we're going to go in order of how these were released.
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But, you know, Rob, if you don't have any other thoughts
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on this, you ready to grab some popcorn, or do you have any more?
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Let's read for some popcorn.
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All right.
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Well, with popcorn time, just a quick refresher and a recap of the overall movie, and then how many buckets we're going to give this a popcorn.
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And
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You know, I gave, we both did.
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We gave the mummy five full buckets.
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It was fun.
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You know, we said, yeah, it's certainly not a perfect movie, but I just have a good time.
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I'm connected to the characters and sometimes that's all I need.
00:43:19
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I don't always need Shakespeare.
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I don't always need something that's like it stops and makes me think about life or makes me grip the edge of my seat.
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Um, yeah.
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you know, makes me shed a tear or makes me hate somebody.
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Sometimes I just need to have some good, wholesome fun.
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And that was the first movie.
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And that's the second movie as well.
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I have some good, wholesome fun.
00:43:45
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There's, you know, there's a great score.
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There is a great, great cast.
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And I cannot state that enough.
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This is between these first two movies, a,
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hugely, hugely well put together cast who plays off of each other so well.
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And with all the movies that we've watched, it really is a cast that you go, wow, I put this up there with their, with their dynamic and,
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And their ability to work with each other and feed off of each other up there with a lot of movies that I've seen that I would consider, you know, overall technical, better movies than this.
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But man, this cast just it makes you root for them.
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It makes you cheer for them.
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You know, it makes you worried about their safety, so to speak.
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And I just I want to stress that one last time.
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But there are a few more errors in this one.
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So I can't give this one a five, even though I really, really enjoy this movie.
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I do have to give this four and a half.
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I have to take off a half a bucket for, you know, some of those things that I talked about in the beginning, some really bad CGI, some less than stellar actual camera shots compared to the first movie.
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But again, this was something that was incredibly enjoyable and
00:45:11
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As much fun as I remember having with it.
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And no new complaints, really.
00:45:18
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Everything that I thought about this movie over the years that I've watched it multiple times, it's still the same little problems I have with it, but I don't find anything new.
00:45:29
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And sometimes with going back and watching these movies, again, you sit there and go,
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oh, well, back then I didn't look at things the same or, you know, well, this was acceptable back then, but maybe it feels a little weird seeing this movie now just on how, you know, the world has changed or maybe my thought process has changed.
00:45:49
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But for everything that I remember great about this movie, it's still there.
00:45:54
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And for the small errors that are in this movie, those are still there.
00:46:00
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But there's nothing else that has come up and went, oh, wow.
00:46:04
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Yeah, I don't remember this, but this is bad.
00:46:07
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So again, four and a half buckets.
00:46:10
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Yeah, there's something to that idea of just the way that a movie can just sort of percolate a little differently over time.
00:46:18
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You know, I think the two great examples that we come back to are the second Matrix film.
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and Watchmen, you know, not regarded well initially.
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And then we kind of came back to it years later when, you know what, after you remove that initial sort of like just initial feeling, and then you just look at it with fresh eyes and you can see it for what it actually truly is.
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Do you still feel that way or not?
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And we had, we came away from that with different opinions.
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And I think that,
00:46:47
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To say that the CG in this movie hasn't held up well over time, I think isn't really even accurate because at the time it was made fun of.
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It was never like, oh my God, The Rock as a scorpion running around looking so plastic that there's a little Swedish girl in braid sailing to The Rock's house right now to protest him.
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There was never a time where that looked good.
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Everybody always laughed at it and thought it was stupid.
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So it's not like it's...
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it's gotten worse over time.
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You know, I think those, those things are all kind of still there.
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So I, you know, we, we kind of, when we, when we assign our ratings, it's, it's based on how we feel about it in that moment in time.
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And if I were to have just watched this movie on its own, having not seen the first one within the last two weeks, I probably give it a five.
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you know, the little problems are there.
00:47:41
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I hate the tattoo thing.
00:47:42
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I hate the retconning.
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I just, I hate that.
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I don't think it's necessary, but it's still an incredibly fun movie.
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But given the fact that as I sit here today, as we sit and record this, I have just seen the first one.
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And the first one is a better version of this movie.
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The first one is a five.
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This one is a four and three quarters.
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I'd love to give it a five.
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I really wanted to give it a five.
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but I can't.
00:48:08
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I simply can't.
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So it's four and three quarters for me, and I kind of feel bad even saying it that low, because this is a movie I enjoy quite a bit, but there's definitely some technical
Conclusion and Audience Engagement
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issues.
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There's definitely some story issues.
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There's no casting issues.
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There's no performance issues, really.
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Yeah, 100% agree with all of that statement.
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It was a blast to come back to this series, and
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you know, more so than tomb of the dragon emperor.
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I am very interested.
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This is one of those ones where I'm like, yeah, I'm interested to go back to the scorpion King because I think that's one of those movies that if I really sit there and think about it, I believe I've only seen that movie twice.
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I've seen it once in my lifetime dragon emperor once.
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So I am kind of, I not enough to really feel like I remember anything about it.
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So I am actually looking forward to rewatching both of them.
00:49:09
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Uh, cause it's been well over 15 years, I think.
00:49:15
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It's been, I don't know if it's been that long for me, but it's been a very, very long time.
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Um,
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Yeah, I don't remember a lot about the Scorpion King.
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Now, maybe when I watch it again, I'll be like, oh, yeah, I actually do remember much more of this than I thought.
00:49:30
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But I'm going to be extremely interested to rewatch the Scorpion King.
00:49:35
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And then we'll move on to Tomb of the Dragon Emperor and see, you know, maybe they're a little bit better than we remember them.
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Yeah, I certainly don't remember hating the Scorpion King.
00:49:45
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I just remember going, all right, it happened.
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Like, OK, I saw it.
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Don't love it.
00:49:52
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Don't hate it.
00:49:53
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It's a thing.
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I did it.
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It happened.
00:49:55
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Yeah.
00:49:56
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And maybe that will still be the same thing.
00:49:59
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And, you know, Tomb of the Dragon Emperor, I remember going, yeah, I didn't like that.
00:50:03
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This is a bad movie.
00:50:05
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Maybe that opinion will change.
00:50:07
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Maybe I'll say it's, well, no, this isn't a bad movie.
00:50:10
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This is a terrible movie.
00:50:12
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Maybe I'll say, eh.
00:50:14
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it happened it's it's not what i wanted but it's not terrible it's not actually terrible um maybe i'll be like wow it's actually really good um so i'll be interested to see where we where we land on those two yeah it'll be good to kind of go back and uh um
00:50:36
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Have an excuse to watch that's one of my favorite things about the show is is there's so many things that I haven't seen in so long and I'm so glad we're finally doing this again we had talked about this on again off again.
00:50:48
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For a long time.
00:50:51
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And it's one of the, it's probably the film series we've talked about the most that we haven't just gotten to do.
00:50:55
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00:51:00
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00:51:23
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If you've actually watched any of the spinoff, um,
00:51:27
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sequels to the Scorpion King, the aforementioned Scorpion King 2 with Randy Couture that I've seen once.
00:51:34
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I got it at a Blockbuster.
00:51:35
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You remember when Blockbuster was a thing?
00:51:37
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I rented this movie from a Blockbuster and watched it on purpose and regretted that decision immensely.
00:51:45
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00:52:12
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00:52:20
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00:52:29
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00:52:33
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00:52:34
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00:52:38
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00:52:43
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00:52:45
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Really looking forward to the end of the year show.
00:52:47
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Really looking forward to kind of having to think for myself, like what actually even came out this year?
00:52:53
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00:52:57
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