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Speaker: One of the best feelings in life is feeling anchored.
Speaker: When the waves of life come, you stay confident, stable, and secure.
Speaker: So how do we stay connected in a world full of distractions?
Speaker: We think honest conversations can help.
Speaker: I'm Allie.
Speaker: And I'm Linneze.
Speaker: Two friends who just want to chat about how to be our best selves.
Speaker: Thanks for joining us.
Speaker: This is Anchored in Life.
Speaker: I'm excited about this topic.
Speaker: It's mostly going to be you.
Speaker: Well, yes, we did talk about how you've got a transition coming up.
Speaker: It's just not as immediate as mine.
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: We're talking about adjusting to major life changes.
Speaker: And I have kept this under wraps really for no reason other than I don't think it just hasn't come up.
Speaker: But I, at the time of this recording, I am 37 weeks pregnant and getting more uncomfortable by the second physically.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I'm excited.
Speaker: But as Laniece knows very well, my first trimester, which I'm going to go over things in case people didn't know all of this, because I certainly did not.
Speaker: Trimesters are like 12 weeks long, and there's three of them.
Speaker: And the first one is...
Speaker: Usually is the worst in terms of symptoms, but you're not showing.
Speaker: So you kind of, you don't want to tell people you've got to kind of be smart about that.
Speaker: Well, I had a bedridden, nausea filled first trimester from week five to 13, and I couldn't work.
Speaker: And I couldn't travel.
Speaker: And I was throwing up 10 to 12 times a day.
Speaker: And so the first transition for me there was I've never had my physical health threatened like that before ever in my life.
Speaker: I've never broken a bone, torn my ACL, anything that ever stopped me from being physical.
Speaker: And so COVID was the first time I feel like that happened, but it wasn't my physical health.
Speaker: It was just the fact that you couldn't be around your community.
Speaker: This time it's, oh, you can't even walk to the bathroom without feeling like you're going to pass out.
Speaker: And nothing worked.
Speaker: Ginger, whatever else they say, the saltines on the bedside table, nothing worked.
Speaker: My body was just overwhelmed with hormones.
Speaker: And I was in the hospital twice.
Speaker: And it was awful.
Speaker: And I hated it because I couldn't work, aka I had no purpose.
Speaker: And then you just feel bad all day.
Speaker: So if anybody else has gone through that, I'm so sorry.
Speaker: It does have a name.
Speaker: but it's called HG for short.
Speaker: And lucky me, only 5% of women are diagnosed with it.
Speaker: How about that?
Speaker: But Laniece and I had thought about
Speaker: Life transitions as a good topic because there's the ones that hit you in the face, like, what the heck?
Speaker: And then there's the ones that slowly creep up and you know they're coming.
Speaker: So I had the slap in the face with... I did not think I was going to get pregnant that quickly, first of all, but then...
Speaker: No one told me symptoms could be like that.
Speaker: So I really was not anticipating it.
Speaker: I was anticipating like that.
Speaker: Oh, yeah, morning sickness, you know, side note, advocate for yourself to your doctor into the ER.
Speaker: And if you have a partner, my husband certainly was like, no, don't just tell her that she's pregnant and then walk away because she can't even sip water.
Speaker: Now, my transition is the impending birth of my daughter, which is a strange feeling.
Speaker: Most people don't get to wear their transitions, as in my stomach grows every day.
Speaker: So I'm very aware of mine.
Speaker: But I now have this date creeping up where I know the day before she's born, my life is going to be one way.
Speaker: And then the day after, my life is going to be completely different and it'll never be the same.
Speaker: And sitting in that can be really, I don't even know, overwhelming, I guess.
Speaker: And two, I've always had a therapist whenever I've had a life transition.
Speaker: And actually, when I was in Mobile, I had a therapist that was a specialist in life transitions.
Speaker: And that was the first time I ever heard of someone specializing in that.
Speaker: And it kind of made sense, though, because that's when people usually are the most stressed and need the most help, most guidance.
Speaker: So I've always had one during my biggest life transitions on purpose.
Speaker: Now I have a therapist just for maintenance purposes.
Speaker: But I remember Immobile because that was a huge life transition for me, moving away from home and then having that my first big girl job and being a news reporter.
Speaker: All that to say is that they're important.
Speaker: We have to sit and think about them and process them or else they'll kind of take over you and you won't really know what's wrong.
Speaker: And you have to sit back and go, what just happened in my life?
Speaker: And was it a big deal?
Speaker: And then our example for you, Laniece, was that you've got your first child leaving the nest soon, and that's going to be a big transition for you.
Speaker: It's just kind of one of
Speaker: introduce people into the conversation.
Speaker: We're talking about life transitions.
Speaker: And I think all of us go through a transition.
Speaker: I mean, we're going to face loss, a heartbreak, changes in our work, family, community.
Speaker: And in speaking to you about this now, it has hit me that because there are a lot of transitions, right?
Speaker: There's marriage, there's divorce, there's losing a job.
Speaker: There's losing someone in your family.
Speaker: There's moving.
Speaker: There's welcoming a child.
Speaker: You have hit on a lot of those.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: You have hit because when you said you had a life coach when you moved to Mobile, I thought, well, wow, that was a big transition.
Speaker: You got married shortly after moving to Mobile.
Speaker: That was a big life transition.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And then you and your husband bought a house.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's another huge life transition.
Speaker: Gosh, and before that, the loss of your dad.
Speaker: And I know that that was...
Speaker: And continues to be a process for you.
Speaker: And I guess, and not to compare, and I shouldn't even think it or say it, but your transitions are larger than mine right now.
Speaker: And of course, I've experienced marriage and having a child.
Speaker: But I will say this, each pregnancy is different.
Speaker: And anyone who tells me that they are expecting a child, my first piece of advice to them is to trust your instinct.
Speaker: You don't think you know, but you do.
Speaker: You were born to do this.
Speaker: Trust your gut when it comes to making decisions about your child and the care for your child.
Speaker: And know that my experience is not going to be your experience.
Speaker: So I didn't have the nausea.
Speaker: So I'm not going to tell you, Allie, oh my gosh, you're not going to have any problems.
Speaker: It's got to be so easy.
Speaker: The only thing you're not going to like is the weight gain.
Speaker: Well, because that was my experience.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I had a girlfriend once tell me,
Speaker: Oh, the nursing is awful.
Speaker: And I'm not going to go into the gory details that she gave me about preparing for nursing and the problems she had with her child latching on.
Speaker: I was terrified.
Speaker: Terrified.
Speaker: I didn't have any problems with nursing any of my children.
Speaker: You know, I was a huge producer of milk, so much so that I donated my breast milk to the hospital.
Speaker: I was able to bank milk for my son and daughter long after I stopped breastfeeding them.
Speaker: So they were still getting breast milk.
Speaker: But again, I didn't.
Speaker: I always tell people your pregnancy, your childbirth is going to be your own.
Speaker: It's going to be unique to you.
Speaker: You know, reading all the books and listening to stories of other women, they can be helpful.
Speaker: I don't think that that's going to be the exact case for you.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Well, because you mentioned my dad.
Speaker: My daughter's middle name is going to be after my dad.
Speaker: And so a life transition that you have, quote unquote, processed well, can come back and really be a big deal in another transition.
Speaker: So, you know, I have to grapple with the fact that my daughter never gets to meet my dad.
Speaker: What are me and my husband going to do to make sure that she still knows who he is?
Speaker: And so things will come back like that, you know, and I wish I was...
Speaker: closer to all my friends in Mobile during this time, right?
Speaker: Do you want to go back?
Speaker: You always have these thoughts about, do I want to go back to a transition I've already gone through?
Speaker: Do we move again?
Speaker: It makes you think about, it almost is like one thing can make you want to go into another transition.
Speaker: But for me and my husband, that's not a smart thing to do.
Speaker: We've always tried to take it one thing at a time because it's
Speaker: it can get really overwhelming without you even noticing it.
Speaker: But when it comes to strategies for managing this, the thing that comes to my mind, because everyone's so different, it's hard to say, here's three things I would do.
Speaker: But just setting yourself up for success today so that tomorrow isn't harder.
Speaker: If you're going through buying a house or
Speaker: something like that, make sure that if you're going through that decision-making process of if we're going to buy it or always make sure you're spending time on thinking about that decision and that the decision's made, make sure you're spending time every day on preparing for the move.
Speaker: So pack a little bit every day because I think what we can do, and I'm experiencing this with having a baby, right?
Speaker: It's really easy to just put all the shower gifts in her room and then be like, okay,
Speaker: I'll use those later or whatever they are.
Speaker: I don't even know what they are.
Speaker: But every weekend I was like, we need to unpack these things and like build them out.
Speaker: Like everything comes in 5,000 pieces, build it so that when I go to use it, I can use it instead of going to use it and it's in 5,000 pieces.
Speaker: So you think you have time.
Speaker: And I guess what I'm saying is use all the time up until the transition point.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: to prepare yourself, whether that is physically building something or thinking about it, because you're going to run out of time.
Speaker: And nine months seems like a long time.
Speaker: I mean, you find out what five, six weeks into that nine months, but still it's a long time.
Speaker: But I feel like I have a lot of thinking to do still.
Speaker: I have a lot of talking to people.
Speaker: do with my husband and about what we're going to do when she says this or when she does this.
Speaker: And I know we're going to figure it out.
Speaker: So I'm not stressed.
Speaker: But I could see how somebody of a particular personality type who's a lot more worried than I am.
Speaker: I'm not an anxious person.
Speaker: But I can see how that could just creep up on someone.
Speaker: And all of a sudden, you're a victim to your anxiety because you put it off, put it off, put it off.
Speaker: And that's what my counselor taught me.
Speaker: I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker: people will hold on to that stress and that tension.
Speaker: And you're right, it does.
Speaker: It builds up in your body and over time it becomes detrimental.
Speaker: So being present, if I understood you correctly, helps you to plan for your future.
Speaker: It's instinct to want to draw in and maybe put it out of your mind or to, on the opposite side of that, focus yourself.
Speaker: focus, focus on what is stressful to you.
Speaker: And it's hard.
Speaker: It's so hard to do, but you do, you have to step back and kind of look at it as the big picture it is and embrace that change.
Speaker: Nikki Giovanni has this quote that I had a hard time accepting.
Speaker: It says, embrace the change, no matter what it is.
Speaker: Once you do, you can learn about the new world you're in and take advantage of
Speaker: And I said, wow, that is a great message.
Speaker: But I don't know how easy it is for me to embrace the change, no matter what it is, no matter what it is.
Speaker: But I think every new transition brings about a new you.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: A new phase of you.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: This is going to be harder for the more controlling type people to hear.
Speaker: If I was going to compare myself to you, you'd be more in that realm than me, Laniece.
Speaker: So someone clarified that for me the other day.
Speaker: They said that I'm a good delegator, that I'm good with leading and delegating, and that can be perceived.
Speaker: Control, right.
Speaker: You are not controlling.
Speaker: There's a big difference between you like control and you're controlling.
Speaker: You're not controlling.
Speaker: You just have, you have control of your life, which is like, I think best case scenario.
Speaker: That's what, that's what I mean.
Speaker: I'm way more go with the flow.
Speaker: And sometimes I can make a bad decision because I'm not really thinking.
Speaker: And that's where my husband comes in and saves me usually.
Speaker: In the life transition, since mine have seemed to be pretty condensed in a 10 year time span, mind you doing a bunch of life transition in your, in your twenties.
Speaker: I mean, bless anyone in their twenties.
Speaker: We have no idea what we're doing.
Speaker: It's crazy.
Speaker: And now that I'm 30, I'm kind of like,
Speaker: I feel like I can make better decisions now.
Speaker: Like, why was I making all those really hard ones so young?
Speaker: But you learn, you live and you learn.
Speaker: The life transitions, they always come with things you can't control.
Speaker: And I think people can get stuck in that too.
Speaker: Relationships are going to end.
Speaker: People are not going to support you like you thought they were going to.
Speaker: organically it happens because when you move hundreds of miles away, some relationships can't survive that or you just, you, you have different friends now.
Speaker: I think you want to control what you can control.
Speaker: But a lot of times in a life transition, you don't know what that is.
Speaker: Buying a house is a good example too.
Speaker: I mean, you get into this new house that you thought was fine.
Speaker: And then all of a sudden the AC goes out.
Speaker: Expect that that, those things are going to happen.
Speaker: I don't want to say be a doomsday type person.
Speaker: But in a life transition, it's never going to be the way that you had thought it was going to be in your head.
Speaker: Sometimes it's better.
Speaker: And we'll say that.
Speaker: I mean, sometimes it's better than you thought.
Speaker: But there's got to be a release of control a little bit there.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: When you're having a baby, there's no control.
Speaker: I'm sorry.
Speaker: I have completely given that up.
Speaker: Everyone's like, you good?
Speaker: You ready?
Speaker: I'm like, don't know.
Speaker: Ready as I'll ever be.
Speaker: That's right.
Speaker: I was scared out of my mind.
Speaker: And I think with any transition you go through, you have people that you lean on.
Speaker: And sometimes you don't.
Speaker: Sometimes you're a team of one.
Speaker: But whatever your coping mechanisms are, make sure that you have a strategy.
Speaker: You can't dwell in what that transition is.
Speaker: You have to think, how am I going to tackle this?
Speaker: How am I going to get out of this?
Speaker: How am I going to find the positive in it?
Speaker: And of course, I'm speaking of more of the life transitions that are difficult and not exciting, like
Speaker: getting married or moving to a new city, but struggling with maybe divorce or struggling with the loss of a loved one or losing a job.
Speaker: Those are all very scary things.
Speaker: And I think too, and this would be a reminder for myself, be open to opening up, whether it's privacy, control, embarrassment.
Speaker: I wonder how
Speaker: open we are when we need the help.
Speaker: Not wanting to be vulnerable or thinking you're a burden to someone else you're sharing your troubles with.
Speaker: That would be my advice.
Speaker: Let people help you if they're there.
Speaker: That's really good advice.
Speaker: I could have done that better for sure with my friends leaving college.
Speaker: You're all going through the same thing and I could have leaned on them more.
Speaker: And I think the fact that they were just far away from me all of a sudden, unlike college, was scary.
Speaker: And I thought, well, I can't complain about that.
Speaker: Everyone's going through that.
Speaker: I think we minimize our life transitions and the effect that they have on us.
Speaker: So just thinking of me moving from college to Mobile to this new job, I didn't want to, quote unquote, complain about that because I thought the reaction would be, this is what you wanted.
Speaker: The goal was to go to college, learn, learn,
Speaker: And then go be a news reporter.
Speaker: And that's exactly what you're going to be.
Speaker: So don't complain about having to move to a new city where you know no one because you're getting your dream job.
Speaker: And I think that's where my little... How old was I?
Speaker: 20?
Speaker: 21?
Speaker: My little 21-year-old brain was like...
Speaker: no, you can do this.
Speaker: And this is the time where you got to, you got to be independent.
Speaker: And there was, yes, yeah, be independent.
Speaker: But man, I should have thought about what I needed too, because that, that shouldn't have been underestimated because what I did was I went inside.
Speaker: I tried to isolate and that's the worst thing because I felt like I can't tell anybody what
Speaker: they're going to think I'm being drama queen.
Speaker: And I don't want to come across like that.
Speaker: I want to come across as thankful as I get older.
Speaker: I've learned that.
Speaker: I've kind of put that away.
Speaker: I don't really care what people think anymore.
Speaker: If I'm hurt and I need help, then I'm going to reach out.
Speaker: And that's just the kind of person I am now.
Speaker: But it's hard to look back and look at myself like, oh, you needed help and you needed people.
Speaker: And thankfully, I found a lot of great people organically in Mobile that really, really helped.
Speaker: And my job forced me to be outgoing and to meet people.
Speaker: But I can only imagine that not being the case for people and just feeling so lonely.
Speaker: And now thinking about using relationships, even when they're far away physically, it's so helpful to be honest.
Speaker: It's been helpful for me to be honest with people about how hard this pregnancy has been, because I know they know me and I know that they know I'm not complaining about being pregnant because I would never do that alone.
Speaker: all the people who have trouble getting pregnant and really want a baby, all of this.
Speaker: I'm so empathetic to that because I know that's very hard too.
Speaker: I'm not complaining, but I am being realistic about the fact that this has completely changed my life.
Speaker: in a negative way at first, right?
Speaker: And now I'm able to be a little more joyful and positive.
Speaker: But that communication with people and being honest was helpful because then I'm just real with people and I'm not hiding anything.
Speaker: You know, because I can imagine somebody coming over and meeting the baby and then I start bawling my eyes out because I haven't been honest about how hard this has been.
Speaker: Whereas when they come over, they're just going to know.
Speaker: wow, look at you.
Speaker: Here we are.
Speaker: Here's the joy that was making you sick.
Speaker: And why we don't use our support systems, that's what they're there for.
Speaker: It's crazy, but we just want to really do things on our own sometimes.
Speaker: And transitions have to be shared with a partner or with your friend group.
Speaker: That's literally why they exist for those harder times.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I don't want to isolate anyone that
Speaker: maybe doesn't have a friend group, because those people do exist, whether they have aged out, you know, all of their friends have passed because they're older, or what other circumstances there might be.
Speaker: There are people who don't have solid friends, people that they can go to.
Speaker: But that's when I would challenge you to try to meet new people.
Speaker: Or find a therapist.
Speaker: There is power in sharing your story with someone else because in just talking about what's wrong, sometimes you find the answer yourself.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And you verbalize it instead of keeping it in your head.
Speaker: Or you find someone who's going through the same thing that you would never know by looking at them, which is pretty cool too.
Speaker: There are groups you can go to, but it's important.
Speaker: Yeah, you definitely brought up a good point.
Speaker: It is very important to share that burden and find community to help you heal or explore.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Because it can be exciting moving to a new city, starting a new relationship.
Speaker: Mm-hmm.
Speaker: seeing your child go off to college.
Speaker: So while you are getting ready to welcome your daughter,
Speaker: I have now seen my son, my first born, go from that 22 week image on the screen to now being a 17 year old and navigating what he wants for his future.
Speaker: And it is rewarding seeing him step out with such confidence.
Speaker: But it is also very sad because it feels like it was just yesterday.
Speaker: So I would tell you as a new mom, cherish all those moments with her because she's going to grow so fast.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: What the heck?
Speaker: I used to hate it when people were like, college man goes by quick.
Speaker: You know, and then it's like, wait, they were right.
Speaker: Don't make me leave.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: The thing I like about life transitions after the fact, I don't like being in them while they're happening.
Speaker: But when things are smooth, like when the waves are calm, you're not going through a transition, you've been in your house for four years, you've been married, whatever.
Speaker: When things are smooth, you have to work towards personal growth and transformation.
Speaker: You have to be doing something in your day-to-day to do that.
Speaker: So you join a chamber group and you go every Thursday or you're in a small group or whatever.
Speaker: You have to kind of put things into your schedule to grow because otherwise you just plateau and you stay the same and nothing wrong with that.
Speaker: But if you want to seek growth, you got to go seek it.
Speaker: With a life transition, you don't have a choice.
Speaker: You're going to grow whether you're aware of it or not.
Speaker: And so it's so much better to be aware of it so you can have a little more control and give yourself, feed yourself what you need to grow well.
Speaker: But, you know, it's a time for you to reevaluate priorities if you need to.
Speaker: Explore new interests.
Speaker: If you're moving, you just move to a place that's got more bike trails.
Speaker: Maybe you like to bike and you can go figure that out.
Speaker: The identity thing is so crazy.
Speaker: One of the hardest life transitions was moving from Alabama to South Carolina and letting go of the fact that I was no longer going to be a news reporter.
Speaker: Because since I was 10 years old in my parents' basement, I was a news reporter, whether people knew it or not.
Speaker: I was a news reporter at 10.
Speaker: I would take the shows that we used to do at elementary school and I would reenact them because I memorized them.
Speaker: I was a one-man show and it was great.
Speaker: And I would do it over and over again.
Speaker: And so the identity shift, and now I'm going to go through an identity change now, right?
Speaker: You're going to go through one because you're going to have a son in college.
Speaker: And that's different than saying you have a son that lives at home.
Speaker: I will be a mom, probably one of the hardest and best role changes you can have in life.
Speaker: And know that you're going to have some tension in your identity changing.
Speaker: And knowing that when my dad died, my identity changed to somebody who only has one parent.
Speaker: And you really have to process these things so that when you're talking to people, you don't lose it in front of them or you don't really know how to
Speaker: verbalize what you're going through.
Speaker: But the identity part is so strong because when I realized I wasn't going to be a news reporter, I really seriously had an identity crisis in South Carolina because I had no idea who I was without being a news reporter because I felt like it meant all my skills went out the window.
Speaker: Now I'm fine.
Speaker: But at the time when I didn't have a job and I wasn't doing the one thing I knew how to do, it's like, then who am I?
Speaker: And I know there's going to be times where I doubt myself as a mom.
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: And so I'm trying to think about ways that I can help myself through that.
Speaker: Certainly telling people and being honest, telling my husband will be helpful.
Speaker: But yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Identity.
Speaker: That's a strong thing.
Speaker: And it certainly changes in every transition.
Speaker: I mean, even just the small... Well, not small ones, but the smaller ones, like buying a house.
Speaker: You're now a homeowner.
Speaker: Homeowner?
Speaker: Taxpayer?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Responsibilities.
Speaker: It's not just a matter of picking up the phone and lodging a complaint for them to take care of.
Speaker: No, you got to research, you got to find said electrician, and then you got to schedule the appointment.
Speaker: You got to pay for it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: It's important to acknowledge and process the emotions that
Speaker: There are going to be a lot of them.
Speaker: And I guess I would just remind people the importance of meditating.
Speaker: I knew you were going to laugh.
Speaker: Meditating and journaling.
Speaker: Honestly, it is important.
Speaker: I think because also journaling and meditation, it allows you to purge.
Speaker: It also allows you to manifest what do you want to attract.
Speaker: And it just gives you an opportunity to quiet your mind and focus to maybe readjust your lens.
Speaker: And you need to do that with whatever life adjustment and transition you're going through.
Speaker: You need to be able to see clearly.
Speaker: Yeah, it's pretty much mandatory at that point.
Speaker: Mandatory homework because your day-to-day doesn't let you stop for most of us.
Speaker: It doesn't let you have a minute.
Speaker: So you really have to work it in.
Speaker: And then life transitions, usually that's a busier time in life.
Speaker: So if you're doing it not during life transitions, then you have the habit formed during them.
Speaker: And you'll know that it helps you.
Speaker: You'll know which form of meditation helps you the most.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: On that note, you want to talk about the fun thing that you've done in terms of journaling?
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
Speaker: I was like, what did you talk about?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So we talk so much about it, journaling and the importance of doing that.
Speaker: I thought it would be neat if we would, you know, have a journal for people to...
Speaker: get comfortable with.
Speaker: So I went through the process of ordering journals and who knew all the different decisions that go into that.
Speaker: I thought I was birthing another child.
Speaker: You have to pick the size of the journal, the feel of the pages, how many pages, the binding.
Speaker: It's just like, I just want a book.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: I just want a book with pages.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But I'm very happy with what we decided to go with.
Speaker: And when you take it out of the package, it smells like apples and cinnamon.
Speaker: And I kid you not, because it's made from recycled apples.
Speaker: Oh, yes.
Speaker: Fun.
Speaker: The paper.
Speaker: And it literally...
Speaker: Now, if you're prego and, you know, going through that nausea stage, maybe that's not, you don't want that overwhelming scent.
Speaker: But once you get out of that and you want to journal about said experience, it will be very soothing and calming.
Speaker: So yeah, we've had those available now for about a month, I think.
Speaker: And we also have an Instagram now.
Speaker: So if you're like, where do I get this link for these said journals?
Speaker: That's what we're doing.
Speaker: It's in the, it's a link in our bio.
Speaker: So it's at anchored in life podcast is our handle on Instagram.
Speaker: And,
Speaker: And we post things all over the place, things about me and Laniece, but also things about when we try to record and technology doesn't work out.
Speaker: We post about that too.
Speaker: So give us a follow there.
Speaker: And that's also where you can get the link to the journals and you can get one.
Speaker: And I need to send you one.
Speaker: I just saw you and I thought, why didn't I've got like 500 of these things.
Speaker: Yeah, they're cool, guys.
Speaker: They're really cool.
Speaker: And that was a cinnamon thing.
Speaker: Name a journal that smells like that.
Speaker: I don't think you can.
Speaker: And they're green.
Speaker: Then they're green.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Well, they're two different colors, but one is green.
Speaker: Yeah, that's pretty awesome.
Speaker: So all this chit chat we gave you all about journaling.
Speaker: Now there's no excuse.
Speaker: You're going to have to get your own pen.
Speaker: There you go.
Speaker: You have a journal now.
Speaker: Well, I hope that we were able to provide some comfort.
Speaker: You are not in this alone.
Speaker: We all go through life transitions.
Speaker: And if there's something that you do that you find is helpful when you are going through it, message us on Instagram.
Speaker: Send us a direct message.
Speaker: We would love to read some of your comments maybe on the next episode.
Speaker: Help me.
Speaker: I need all the help I can get.
Speaker: Thanks for listening, y'all.
