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Glick's Drive-In: Charlie DeNatale
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Tonight we’re firing up the neon and opening the lot for the very first episode of Glick's Drive-In on The Nonsensical Network! 🚗🎙️ Glick kicks off the debut episode with special guest Charlie DeNatale pulling into the Drive-In for a laid-back, behind-the-scenes conversation you won’t hear anywhere else. From wild stories and industry tales to the moments most people never see coming, Charlie shares the real experiences, laughs, and memories that shaped his journey. Nothing is off limits as Glick and Charlie trade stories, talk shop, and set the tone for what Glick’s Drive-In is all about — real conversations, great guests, and a little bit of that classic Nonsensical chaos. So grab a seat, roll the windows down, and turn the volume up… because the Drive-In is officially open.
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Introduction to Glick's Drive-In
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Roll on in, don't kill the lies
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We're talking stories deep into the night Mike is live and hot where the truth and the tall tales both belong From backstage laughs to the long road grind The stories you won't hear Anywhere online So roll on through
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bus to the tour bus ride
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all the crazy moments they usually hide the laughs the chaos the almost wins every story's welcome at glicks driving so
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Get back a while at Glick's driving. Where the mics are hot and the truth sneaks in.
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Behind the scenes at Glick's driving. From backstraight to backroads to the stories they probably shouldn't tell.
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You're hanging out with Glick.
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Buckle up, let the good times Another wild ride at Gleck's Driving Where the stories are real and the legends chime in
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Welcome to Gleck's Driving Roll on through, slide
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Spilling secrets at Gleick's Drive.
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What is going on guys? Happy, what is this? It's Monday. Oh yeah, my days are haul off. Whoa, we're kicking on the neon lights. We're opening up the drive-in for the first time tonight. Welcome to
The Role of AI in the Show
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Glick's drive-in right here on the Nonsensical Network.
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If you're not already, go ahead and check us out. We are everywhere. Bio.link slash Nonsensical Network. Right that er at the bottom of the screen. That's got all our our links. Facebook, Instagram, X, TikTok.
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YouTube Facebook twitch where you can watch the shows live Monday through Sunday We've got something going on seven days a week Sometimes a couple shows a day now And don't forget you can also listen anytime wherever you listen to podcasts that we're on all those platforms as well. Just simply look up Nonsensical Network gives a follow and give us a like give us a share. I'm super excited. This is another brand new show that I've started There'll be a still interview style that you guys are used to with me on Tuesdays But I get to jump into movies and television and hang out with people who Bring those stories to life and the big screen and all that fun stuff and you know get to hear about them and maybe get a little behind the scenes but with that being said and I'm so nervous. I'm gonna mess up, but I have my very first guest Here are glicks drive in Charlie
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I'm not even gonna do it because I can't get it. How do we pronounce your last name? I'm sorry. Okay, so it's Di Natale, okay? And it's Italian.
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but And it actually translates to of Christmas in Italian. Because when you wish somebody Merry Christmas, you say Buon Natale. Now the D-E means of, so I'm Charlie of Christmas. And Christmas, yeah. And I'm really happy to be here. And actually, I loved i loved your opening theme song. And I have to ask you, did you record it? Or was that you? Or who was that? who I wish I recorded that.
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That is actually, um I wrote most of the lyrics. I had a little help from ah editing and whatnot from my chat GPT. He's become my best friend. And I used an AI song generator ah to build the song and create the song and everything like that. yeah.
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Nice job. Very well done. Very well done. I like it. I wish I could sing like that because I might be taking a different path outside. Of course, I'd probably be doing both and then my girlfriend would really want to kill me because you're podcasting and doing music.
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No, it's great. I mean, I was, I was asking myself, gee, somebody, he must've wrote this or he produced it because it says Glick's driving. So that's not a real song. So he must, it's an original song.
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i did I did write most of the lyrics. Most of the songs on here um because, again, and I'm sure you're well aware of this in your world, copyright. You got to be careful with copyright infringements. And I do have a lot of friends in the music world, but I don't want to be that guy that goes, hey, you want to do me a favor? you know So um I do try to write as much of the lyrics as I possibly can. um It's nice to have you know AI can be a wonderful tool.
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I like to use it to kind of helped me get my words out of my head and down on paper because sometimes when I type stuff, it doesn't make any sense. So I got, I got it. I got to tell you, um, I was, and we'll get into this in a little bit. I, I went to see the Elvis movie the other day and, um you know, the, the movie Epic, the concert.
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i understandha You did see it. I've seen your video on it. And. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But on the on the coming attractions at in the theater, there's a movie coming out in May, I believe it is.
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And it's all about um AI in general overall as to what it's going to do futuristically to everybody, us humans.
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And I'll tell you what, just with the trailers, it's a scary shit that's going to happen. Very scary. You know, really weird. Really weird. Yeah.
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Terminator was on it back in the day. It's only a matter of time before the AI and the robots take over and we're just, ah you know, working for them. I'm not sure I want to sit through that movie because it's going to be too thought provoking for me. And I don't want to even think about that stuff right now.
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Yeah. i tell I love AI now that I'm getting a better understanding of it for what I'm using it for. But also at the same time, it pays attention and it gets to know you and my AI and i interact yeah like two friends. like Yeah.
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it curses at me and it swears at me and then i'll matter back to him and it or whatever i don't know i've called him him but uh you know and it it it it knows what i like so if i punch in this idea for a thumbnail or a picture or you know whatever the case may be it's pretty spot on on on giving me exactly what i'm looking for it's wild world these days it really is so um Charlie, you I was kind of looking a little bit. it looks like you kind of do a little bit of everything, man. I know you you said earlier, and I seen it earlier, you you actually started your career in in radio.
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I did. I actually, you know, in all modesty, I've had a very interesting life. I've kind of jumped from different businesses, surrounded myself with a circle of very interesting trends and business associates. I did start in radio back in the 70s, which, by the way, I will vow to tell you that there is no better decade of music than the nineteen seventy s So if anybody wants to challenge that down the road, let me know. but There is no better music. can't argue that. The 70s was great for music. I'm a big fan of the 80s. But definitely I grew up. My parents listened to growing up. My parents listened to all the move music from the 70s and stuff like that. So I've been a fan of it my whole life as well.
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Yeah, when I started in radio in the 70s, I had graduated high school in New Jersey. couple years after that, I um went to a school in New York City for broadcasting.
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And I spent about nine months in there kind of learning the ins and outs. And I sent out like, I don't know, 100 tapes at different radio stations in the most obscure places in America, because you got to start somewhere, right?
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And I got a call from a station in Bristol, Tennessee, And Bristol, Tennessee is a twin city of Bristol, Virginia. So it's a little tri-city area in southeastern Tennessee.
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And I packed up, I got married, and I went down to Bristol, Tennessee. And I spent about four years at a radio station down there playing... country music, which I knew nothing about.
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ah Not only was I playing country music, lick but they put
Charlie's Early Career and Transition to Acting
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me on an overnight shift in the very first time I got there. So i'm working at midnight to six and all these people who are staying up at night, who are half bombed out of their mind, they're listening to me on the radio Right. Talking ah and talking about these songs that just go through divorces, make people cry. you know Who's committing suicides and stuff like I mean, it's crazy country music back in the 70s. It was all about that kind of stuff. So it's a very somber kind of ah overnight period to do that. yeah
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But I loved it. And then I transitioned into some sports play by play, which is really my passion at the time. And yeah, that's why I started my career. Wow. Did you cover a specific sport in general or did you just kind of do it all? Yeah, so my goal when I went there was really not to be a DJ, but to transition either into being a news director or be a sports play-by-play guy.
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So fortunately, at a station that small, they they have you do everything, right? So one day they said, can you do play-by-play? I says, I sure can. So they sent me out to a couple of high school basketball games locally there.
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And I started doing high school basketball and kind of graduated from there to do a couple of minor league baseball games because they had a minor league team there. And I did football as well, high school football.
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I did a little bit of college football. And that's where my play-by-play started. um But it it was at a very small station. I was like sort of a... I was an ego freak in a very small town. So like, you know, that big fish in a small pond or something like that, what a small fish in a big pond, whatever. But that was me. And I was there for about four years and really loved it, enjoyed it.
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And then moved back to New York after that. Yeah, that would sounds like, I mean, that would be, that was that's why like my ideal dream is radio. i don't know if I want a hot jock. I just want to like talk radio there's some you know or sports radio. I could talk sports all day long. Well, you know, in this day and age, Glick, with the with the technology advances and Spotify and all these other places where you could listen to music, the surviving radio stations right now in this country are Sports Talk,
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news talk and all news stations because everybody still still listens to that stuff while they're in their car but everything else all the music stuff is so many different platforms to listen to music on that you don't really need commercial radio anymore but sports talk and and news talk is really where it's at especially and i know i'm not to get into this but particularly in this political environment news talk is very popular very yeah Oh, yeah. I listened to a station out of Florida. I've listened to them for years. And they do. And it's not it's not your typical ah news. They kind of cover everything. they just
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They got a group of personalities that that do shows. And they just kind of hang out and chat and talk about what's going on in the news and sports. And and but they don't really specialize in any of it. you know Yeah. just and it's It's kind of just have fun and and try to put something out there that people enjoy. But yeah very rarely am I listening to a music radio station in my car ah anymore, unless I'm just don't feel like putting my phone on or something like that. and and Right, right.
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It's down low, and it's just kind of noise because there's other people in the car. Yeah, yeah um I think sports talk and news talk and news radio overall will will survive at least at least over the next five years or so. Beyond that, who knows what's goingnna happen, especially, you know, you're bringing the AI factor. You don't know what's going to happen. But right now, I think that's where it is on radio. So any gigs you can get, try to get them on sports talk or news talk. That's where it's at.
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Yeah, and unfortunately, they're already, and it's and it's starting to happen in your guys' world, too. they um they're They're creating AI radio DJs. yeah So they have this technology and it's literally just listening to so many different various shows and DJs and whatnot.
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And some stations are switching over to AI DJs. There's not even live people anymore. No more humans. Yeah. and I just seen a couple of weeks ago, and this is where it more affects your guys' world. ah The first AI actress was ah was revealed.
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And She ah had you not said she was AI. It's very convincing that she looks like a real person. Looks real, right?
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Yeah. Well, you know, while while we're on the while we're on the subject of AI, I want to also, before I transition back to the career stuff, um which the next step after my radio job is actually the most interesting of my career, I'll i'll kind of fill you in a second. But back to the AI, I'm currently doing a theatrical production in San Diego. I'm in a show called The Jury Experience, Death by ai And what what it is, it's a it's a the it's a theatrical production, so it's on stage live, and the audience is the jury.
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So basically, it's a court so court scenario where a self-driving car with no driver, right? Those self-driving cars that are out there that are operated by AI...
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they The self-driving car is carrying some passengers and it's it's swerves off the road to avoid an accident with another car coming in its direction.
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When it swerves off the road, it winds up killing a bicyclist on the side of the road. So the storyline is who's responsible for the death of that bicyclist. is Was that an error by the AI software? Was it an error by the company who created it? Was it an error by the gentleman who put together the technology and the software? So there's a person on trial and we go through all this evidence to try to convict that person of whether or not he's guilty or not guilty. It's really a fascinating concept. And the show...
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is I think it's in like 70 or 80 cities around the country and and also the world. And it happens to be done here in San Diego. So I play the prosecutor in that. Nice. that actually That actually sounds like it would be very cool to see. But the fact that you guys have the audience involved makes it even more of an experience.
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it Totally. and And not only are they involved, but when you get to talk to them after the show and we go and meet them, they all tell you how thought provoking the information was, you know, is this guy really responsible? Should he go to jail and be accountable for the death of another person based on the fact that nobody was really driving that car except the machine. Right. So it's kind of a weird, but it's an interesting concept.
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Oh, wow. Yeah. the it Yeah. Because I mean, you're going to have to think about it. It makes you, it forces you to really pay attention and, and, and, you know,
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Not only that, but you're I'm assuming they would also get to hear the other opinions of other audience members, but you know, whatnot, and see where their trains going, so to say. Correct, correct. And the demographics also show differently. So, for example, if you're in San Diego, which is a rather liberal town in California,
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or if you're in more of a conservative Midwest town, let's say, the the ultimate decision by the jury, also based on age of the audience, could vary.
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Some people don't want to hear anything about AI. So throw the guy in jail, get rid of him, right? And then there are others that say, well, this is the way it's going to be in the future. Give the guy a break because there are going to be mistakes, but we got to deal with it.
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Yeah, exactly. Wow. That sounds cool. Let me say that. and we if you get If you're in the area or you get an opportunity and they seat and you see it in your area, go check out the show. you harry It's the Jury Experience Death by AI, it's called.
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um So, yeah, it ah its it's a lot of fun. I've been doing it since March of last year of 25. So it's actually a cool show. So I go back to the radio. um I'm there for about four years.
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And then I decide I want to go back to New York. And i land a job and I don't know, are you really into sports very very much? Oh yeah. i'm I'm a big sports guy. We actually have a sports show on here. So I want i try to watch as much as I can, but I'm always paying attention and watching all the different, I got all my, my apps that I can keep track of everything. So but well, back in the 1970s eighties, there was a telephone service that was started in New York.
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and it was called Sports Phone. There's also a book that was recently put out by that. for I think I've heard of that before. yeah So Sports Phone was a number, nine seven six one three one three where people would call, and in 58 seconds, they would rapidly hear scores from games all over the country. Now, keep in mind, back then,
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there wasn't espn there wasn't sports talk radio so people would dial the phone and all of these people like myself the we would be reporters so we'd go out to the games we'd cover the games for the local baseball teams the yankees the mets the giants the jets and then we would feed that audio to the studio and then we'd put it in over the phone so people that called and most of them were gamblers by the way yeah david my hand no They would pay a small fee and they would call, but they would be calling 20 times an hour because we would be updating the scores like every five to 15 minutes. So I started working there and the 9761313 evolved had...
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into this nine hundred phone line business where you had sex lines and horoscope lines and midlines and entertainment lines. And I spent like 12 years in New York City doing that at company called Phone Programs. And that was a lot of fun. it was a It was an industry that was making money hand over fist.
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And it just was crazy back then, back in the 80s. And that was a really cool experience. We got to meet a lot of celebrities. We did Cyndi Lauper lines. We did wrestling lines. We did when Will Smith, the actor, was with Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. We did a lot with him.
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So it was really, really a a fun job. And then I wound up doing all the marketing. So I would be promoting all of these phone numbers by doing commercials on TV. So we would run that and and try to get people to call.
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Yeah. yeah And then yeah I remember even even as a kid growing up and ah in the eighty s and and ninety s How popular, like those 1-800-1900 numbers are. I mean, you'd you'd see them pop up, you you know, if it's Friday night or Saturday night you're staying up late and you'd get the ah call 1-900. call lonely. Yeah. Are you lonely tonight? Exactly. Exactly.
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I had some friends that got into a little bit of trouble, with you know, when when mom and dad got that $400 phone bill going, what the hell's happening here? Yeah. I'll tell you i limit admit I mean, I'm going to share two very quick stories deep with you.
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But we used to promote Dial Santa Claus and Dial the Easter Bunny. See, the kids wouldn't see these TV commercials that would run during the cartoons on Saturday morning. Right. And the kids would want run into their phone without their parents' permission. And they'd pick up the phone and they'd start calling because they wanted to hear Santa Claus talk to them.
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well after a while they ran up this huge phone bill so the parents would get the phone bill and they would freak out and they would be upset at the kids for doing it so that was one thing and then the other thing uh you familiar with pete rose the former baseball player absolutely i'm a guy heart's and sandy reds fans there you go you're a reds fan so you know yeah road Well, Pete Rose, as you know, ah not only did he pass away recently, but he was a huge gambler.
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yeah And um when he became, when he started to get investigated by Major League Baseball and also the feds, um one of the things he did quite a bit was call sports phone, 9761313, because he was a gambler.
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yeah So they came up to our offices in New York, the feds did, and they were doing their investigation and they wanted to see all the phone records of all these people that were calling this 976 number.
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So Pete Rose was part of that. And that actually is in that big document that was turned over to Major League Baseball. Oh, wow. That's crazy. I didn't know that. Yeah, poor Pete Rose. RIP to Pete Rose. But I'm glad he's finally going to get his day. And he deserves it. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. No question about it. Where he belongs.
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Yeah, absolutely that's that's crazy. it just Just to think about that. all that you know I say D-gens in a in ah and ah and a nice way because Lord knows I'm a degenerate and Lord knows our...
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nonsensical family here at the network they're all degenerates too but just just as a magic we all have a little bit of that degenerate stuff in us right yeah just just imagine just trying to get your picks and get your gambling and you gotta be close to a phone because you know back then there were No cell phones or anything like that. so you had to. And look how much that's changed. Right. I mean, and a matter of fact, in New York, back in the day, we had the pay phones on the streets. yeah So people that went to sports, they were stopping by on the pay phones, dropping a quarter in there and trying to call sports phone and get the scores. yeah It was a crazy time.
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And then I moved out of New York in 1989 and discovered Los Angeles first. came out to California, continued in that 900 phone line business and moved to l LA first and then eventually into San Diego.
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But ah the company that i worked for in Los Angeles, as well as in Las Vegas, I hooked up with Playboy Magazine. And we did a 900 number for Playboy.
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And as a result of that, we made some contacts at the Playboy Mansion and got invited to the Playboy Mansion parties. And you you want to talk about some stories with some people that are very well known who showed up at the mansion at those parties.
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That was a crazy, crazy thing. As a matter of fact, I think it was 1994 93, we were at the mansion. celebrating the Playmate of the Year party.
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And all of a sudden, Hugh Hefner, Playboy, gets up on his microphone. He says, okay, everybody's got to leave the mansion because there are riots breaking out in l L.A.
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And that was the Rodney King riots from back in the 90s. So everybody had a scoot out of the mansion. We all got in our limos and cars to get the hell out of there. Of course, his house was way up in the hills in Beverly Hills. He didn't have anything to worry about. But when he drove around the streets, you got to be careful.
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So that was another funny story about that. ge And then we got so then we got into wrestling. Quite a bit of the wrestling promoters wanted to do 900 numbers.
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One of the guys that I met in Los Angeles was a guy by the name of Herb Abrams. And I would invite you or your audience to look up or Google Herb Abrams. This guy was character.
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And I'll fast forward to his death. He died chasing hookers in a hotel room naked with his body covered in baby oil and cocaine.
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That's how he died. Wow, that Exactly. So that was an interesting experience there for the night and during the 90s that I also had. And then I got into a little bit more of the acting And started doing more acting as the 2000s showed up and kind of fast forward to everything to where we are today. I'm ah i'm actually a a media buyer for an ad agency.
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I do some theatrical acting. I've done some documentary films. and And now I'm on the nonsensical network. Yeah. Hanging out here on the nonsense. So when you, when you initially went to LA, did you, did you have plans of, uh, or California, did you have plans of acting or anything like that? Or was that something you've always wanted to do or,
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You know, I've always like kind of and i don't know if this is a good thing or not, but I've always wanted to be the center of attention, even when I was a little kid. You know, i i think you probably are like that. Well, I could see that. i see that so and in when I got to Los Angeles, I actually was dating a young lady.
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And we were out to dinner and there was a dinner theater nearby where we were out. And ah she says, oh, look, they're doing a show there called Damn Yankees.
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And she knew I was a big sports fan, especially a baseball fan. And Damn Yankees is a baseball story. So she goes, i dare you. to go and audition for one of the roles in that show.
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And I said, you know what? That sounds like fun. I think I'll do that. I never thought I would get it. yeah So and I auditioned and sure enough, I was cast as one of the baseball players in that particular production. And that sort of kicked things off to where I did about 20 shows in the 90s at various theaters around Southern California.
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And then started doing more film and more shows as the 2000s rolled around. So for me, it's really, you know, i've I've never had dreams of being famous or even making a lot of money.
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I'll tell you what I do it, why I do it. I do it because it's fucking great therapy. no be it I mean, it is great therapy to to be another person and get out of this crazy world that we live in every day and to try to protect be another person. That's why I enjoy it so much. It's really, really good therapy. And I get paid for it, too, which helps, you know. But, yeah, i really, really enjoy it. It's something ah particularly theater. I'd rather do theater than film.
00:28:50
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But I do really enjoy it. That's how I got into it. Yeah, no, I totally get that. understand the therapy aspect behind it because that's exactly what I think about. That was the whole idea that I had with creating the first show was to give somebody an escape or give people an escape from reality because there's enough bullshit in this world and everything going on. Why why don't we find someplace for a few hours or a couple hours, ah you know, once a week, twice a week, now seven days a week, where you can put all that crap behind you.
00:29:18
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And we can come in and laugh and and have a good time. I can totally see where that's kind of therapeutic and just forget about. yeah you have ah You have a great idea from the, you know, I just met you a couple of weeks ago, but I kind of looked into what you're doing here on the network. And, you know, I hope the word gets out because it is kind of a ah really good escape that people can join you and just, you know, shoot the crap, you know, about anything, whether it be movies, acting, whatever it is, sports.
00:29:45
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Yeah. yeah you know, and the news that's in the world. You know, I woke up this morning. This is, I'm saying to myself, I got to mention this to Glick on the show because today being Monday, I woke up this morning and a lot of people do this nowadays, even before they go into the bathroom and make a deposit. They actually, before they even go into the bathroom, they're scrolling on their phone.
00:30:06
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Yep. Because they want to see what the hell happened overnight, right? This morning, I woke up and I'm scrolling on my phone and I'm saying, shit, you Do I need to go out and buy and construct a bomb shelter?
00:30:18
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I mean, the way they're talking now about what's going on and like how dangerous things is are going to be right now because of what happened over the weekend. And then then I'm seeing um Elvis on every other video.
00:30:32
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I'm seeing... Shit, is this guy still alive or what? But that movie has created such an Elvis phenomenon all of sudden. And I get it because I did that review and I loved it. I thought it was a great show. But of course, I grew up with Elvis, so I knew him.
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But as far as people now, young and old, if you go on social media, every other video is about Elvis. oh Let alone we're looking at the news and creating bomb shelters, you know? yeah it's it's It's wild, but it's crazy. You know, I think it's great. I've i've always been a huge Elvis fan. I love his music. um You know, empty you hear the, in so you know, some of the movies that have come out and stuff like that.
00:31:11
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um But it is wild how that works because I'm guilty of that too. The first thing I do, my alarm goes off and I go through my notifications to see if there's anything I, is it? Is it worth getting out of bed today or should I just stay in bed? yeah I kind of felt that way this morning. I said, what the hell is going on? This is crazy. You know, it's going on. and And like I said, you know, the news aspect is very depressing and it's very sad. And, you know, and, you know, not one side of the aisle or the other. And I know we don't want to talk politics because and we won't. But I tell you what, you know, war just does not do it for me. i don't I don't I'm not a big fan, not a big fan.
00:31:49
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And it's, I hope everything gets cleared up really quick because you don't want to lose lives, you know, but I felt the same way. It's, it's a struggle to get up out of bed and face everything that's going on. You need outlets like what you're doing.
00:32:02
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So kudos to you and your show. Absolutely. Shout out to the chat real quick. I see y'all in there. How y'all doing? Appreciate y'all watching. Appreciate y'all chatting up. ah Yeah, no, exactly. I think I stopped.
00:32:15
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I said, I watched the news for two reasons, sports, sports, Well, I guess maybe three. Weather, sports, and then sometimes traffic. When they start talking about other stuff, just like, yeah, I'm good. I'm out. Right, right, right. I get on my phone. So...
00:32:34
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I just noticed in the chat, if I can do a shout out. Yeah, absolutely. That's my that's my daughter. Hey dad, right? That's my daughter. that's my I was going to say, that's not one of my kids. So I don't know. no no give me Suzanne is in is in Tampa, Florida with her husband, John. and So shout out to them.
00:32:53
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and nice to see that they joined the chat. I'm surprised that they got in. I only told them that we were live tonight, but I guess they found you okay. right so that Yeah, absolutely. Well, welcome in. and And Tampa, that's kind of become a I got a lot of friends down in Tampa in the podcasting world, comedy world, music world. And it's kind of become like a little bit of a second home to me down there. We're actually, yeah we'll be we'll be a couple hours out here in a couple weeks. We're going down to Florida, but I may try to, we may try to take a little road trip so I can see a friend or two while we're down there.
00:33:30
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Are you going to be on the East Coast primarily or where are you going to be in Florida? We're on the West Coast. We're gonna we're going down to Cape Coral. oh you're gonna cape coral nice iing right but west coast yeah west coast' in theville west coast okay cool that'd be fun that'd be fun yeah so So there's a, you know, I mean, the the whole social media aspect as well is is another thing that's just changed our society so much, you know, because people just have that phone by their by their side every minute of every day. And that's where they consume their information, some of the conspiracies. But for the most part, um right?
00:34:08
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and And unfortunately, you know, it's like a double-edged sword because for anybody in the entertainment world, You have to be on social media. yeah You have to use it. it is a It is a valuable tool to have. But at the same time, there's the evil side of it. so you got know being Being in the media as I am, as it relates to the normal day job that I have, which is advertising, I'm a traditional media buyer. In other words, I only deal with
00:34:40
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regular television, regular radio, regular billboards, right? So all that stuff is like old news because everybody goes on the digital side and everybody goes and searches online. But the the interesting part about it is as much as I use social media,
00:34:59
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I really think it is' is definitely the downfall of our country. I really do. I hate to say it, but I i think it there's more. You mentioned evil. Maybe some evil there it could be a strong word, but there's some bad stuff on there. you know It – It's just weird, you know, and that's what people live and die by every day. And it's,
The Impact of Social Media and Personal Reflections
00:35:19
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it's kind of worrisome, but you know, maybe it'll shake itself out and it'll get better in the future. Yeah. We, yeah hopefully we can hope. I mean, unfortunately ah a lot of people get all their information on social media. And as we all know, that can be a doctor very easily and not true. And like I call them a Facebook, ah Facebook education, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:43
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the one the one the great the great thing about facebook and shout out to my high school friends there may be some that'll even join us here today but um it's really allowed me to connect because i my four years of high school were probably one of the few like best four years of my life really they were really just very enjoyable and um i've been able to maintain those relationships with all of those high school friends that i had and if it wasn't for facebook i would never been able to do that so there's there's so many positives to it but some of the negatives can be really tough
00:36:16
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think is I think it's all in how you use it personally because, I mean, my like my social media is a lot of sports and or this. It's this is a lot of what I do on on social media. So um I try to avoid all the craziness that's out there as best I can. so Well, just to have conversation, I think like you're doing, and you know, that's pretty much the premise of your show is, you know, let's just talk, shoot the shit and have conversation about anything and everything. And that's a, that's a really great outlet for people. And I, again, kudos to you. And I hope down the road, you continue to grow and you're successful because I'll be following you. And I know I'll, I'll have all the people that follow me, follow you. So we'll help you grow a little bit.
00:37:01
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Yeah, definitely appreciate that. um You said that, uh, ah you know You've done some different movies and stuff like that, and then theater. You said you you said you're more fond of the theater work than actual Yeah.
00:37:16
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Yeah. And I think that, I think that comes from what I said earlier about being the center of attention. You know, when you do theater, you're in front of obviously a live audience and there's nothing like that. I mean, and I think some of the greatest actors that we have today will tell you that they were groomed on Broadway or on a stage somewhere as, as a theatrical performer. um And then, you know, with, with, with theater,
00:37:43
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Once the show starts and you're on the stage, if you forget your lines or if you screw up, you've got to figure out how to adapt. And that makes you a better actor. Right. Where with film, you're always doing multiple takes until you get it right. Right. So there's a big difference. But I think it's the live audience that makes me want to always be on stage. So that's why I prefer theater.
00:38:07
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over film. Although, i know, look, I would never turn down film if it was the right project, but theater theater just gives me that jolt of adrenaline that I do not find in doing a film.
00:38:19
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Yeah, no, um believe it or not. I'm not a fan of a live. I mean, I love this live audience where I'm sitting in you know if my the comfort of my studio. It shows me if I, if I say something wrong or if I, if I flub my words or I make myself look like an ass, these sons of bitches are the first one that's going to let me know. uh, um, it's, I have had the opportunity to get up on stage, uh, and, and,
00:38:47
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and i want to ask For me, when I got done, ah even though I have a fear of public speaking, it was like ah it was like an adrenaline high, almost like a drug. where It was like a high that felt amazing.
00:39:00
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Do you get kind of in that same feeling when you do theater and stuff like that? You know what, without getting too graphic, I can tell you that the adrenaline off of a theater helps in a lot of areas when you're done with the show. If you get my drift.
00:39:13
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Nice. so So you definitely get that adrenaline before the show. Now, granted, there are some actors who will admit to you that um that they get a little nervous before they go on.
00:39:26
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But after the show is over, you do have that adrenaline. Interesting question in the chat here. You want to read it, Glick? I don't want to steal your thunder there. Oh, no, you're good. Yeah, Mandy was just curious if the theater gives you more of an authentic reaction.
00:39:39
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It totally does. I mean, you know, you could call yourself an actor when you're on stage. However, you'd be surprised how much improv you wind up doing when you're in the course of the actual show. And the audience reaction also sometimes will dictate how you react as well as the performer. And that has happened quite a bit. I mean, sometimes you'll have a show in front of an audience and there'll be silence and you'll think, boy, they must hate this show. And then at the end, they give you a standing ovation, right? But then there's times that during the show, you'll get a laugh
00:40:15
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or you'll get a certain applause or whatever it might be. But, you know, it's definitely the reactions of the actors can be prompted by the audience and the reactions of the audience can be prompted by the actors. So it is definitely an interactive type of an experience that to me, again, as an actor, and i talk about adrenaline. I mean, it's fantastic.
00:40:39
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It's yeah fantastic. It really is. i i've i've been I've always been a fan of of a theater, and I've seen some shows. and And, you know, yeah not that there's really any comparison, but to to see that energy in person that, you know, the actors are putting out there, and especially when the audience get involved as, you know, as a fan, being in the audience, looking in, you know, it's it's fun. It makes the whole experience fun. You I've said a lot about music concerts.
00:41:09
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I'll go see a band that's not that good, that puts on a great show. Over a ah band that, you know, I'm not a big, I'll say i'll say that, I'm not a big fan of Kits. I've seen them in concert, and holy smokes, that was an experience. Like, I would go back in a heartbeat, just because the show, and and that that that energy that they projected off the stage into the audience, so...
00:41:33
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And and that's where that's where Elvis shined. I mean, I saw Elvis live in 1977 down in Johnson City, Tennessee. And that was the year he died.
00:41:43
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And he was extremely overweight. And I really didn't know what to expect when I was in the audience. um And he came out. That man's charisma was unbelievable off the charts. And when you see this movie, when you see this movie,
00:42:02
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This was prior to him gaining the weight. That having seen him on a big screen, if you've never seen Elvis live in concert when he was alive, if you go to this movie,
00:42:14
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You have twice the better experience of watching him in this concert on screen. he is His charisma is off the charts. And that's how powerful this documentary is. But you're right about um concerts.
00:42:29
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is Sometimes you'll love the music, you'll go to a concert, and they're boring. So just the opposite. You know, you like the music, you go to the concert, and it's really, really high energy. And that makes the experience even better. That's why Bruce Springsteen has always been successful.
00:42:44
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in his live concerts, his energy is incredible. You know, he's not as charismatic. I don't think as Elvis, I don't think there's anybody as charismatic as Elvis was, but you know, you're right about the artists. They have to have that energy.
00:42:56
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o and And same thing with the actors. I mean, you can tell if you go see a show, if if just one of the actors is, are off, you know, or having an off day, yeah it,
00:43:08
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As a fan, I don't know as an actor, and you can answer that for me, but as a fan, it kind of seems like just just one one person being a little bit off or slightly off can kind of kind of cause a ah domino effect almost.
00:43:22
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One of the things I do love about theater is when you meet the cast that you're going to be working with for the first time, and there's that collaboration of movement on stage and dialogue back and forth,
00:43:34
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And of course I've screwed up, I'm sure, numerous times as has other actors that have worked with me. um But when that happens, All of the actors, if they're professional, they know going in.
00:43:46
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That's a possibility. That could happen on stage. I have to be ready to deal with it. So actors have to think that way in theater as well, because even though the other actors can do a phenomenal job, if for some reason they stumble, then you have to be prepared to play off of that as well as they play off of you.
00:44:05
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And I think that's the other great part about theater. A gentleman here is, ah I think it's a gentleman, Pierce, um saying, do you like Broadway shows? And have you ever done Broadway before? I wish.
00:44:16
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I wish I had done, broad I wish I could do Broadway. I have not yet. However, when I was in New York and even when I came out to California, I always loved going to Broadway shows. I think they've sort of outpriced themselves with tickets these days, but there's nothing like a Broadway show in New York. But the other thing I found out in traveling around, I've done shows in Phoenix, in Sacramento. I've done them here in San Diego, in l LA, Southern California, San Francisco, Seattle.
00:44:47
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There are great theaters around the country. that are not as big as your Broadway venues in New York. Of course, that's the ultimate. That's where you wanna be if you're a stage actor. But there are so many great theaters, not only at a professional level where the actors are getting paid, but even if you go down to the community theaters and go see productions, here in California, I've seen some of the best productions in community theater.
00:45:13
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And so the actors, you know acting is a process, right? You gotta start somewhere and you gotta grow. And community theater has some of the finest actors you might see. They may never get their break though.
00:45:25
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You know, hopefully they will, but there lot of great theaters, but Broadway, there's nothing like being on Broadway. I mean, you get paid great, of course, but it's the ultimate first first stage actor for sure.
00:45:38
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Oh yeah. So that's kind of like, a you know, a musician or even, even now like wrestlers, I'm a big wrestling fan. MSG has always been one of those man if you could wrestle at MSG or or Play or perform like that's always been one of those one of those big places so Those 900 those 900 numbers I was telling you about back in the 80s and 90s We did a ton of wrestlers when Lou Albano captain Lou Albano from back in the day Hulk Hogan we did a line with Hulk Hogan and
00:46:11
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And wrestling was a big part of our careers in the 80s and 90s. You talk about a wacky world. black Wacky business. yeah It's entertainment. I'll tell you that.
00:46:24
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oh Absolutely. And that's the name of the game at the end of the day. You know you want to put a you want to put a product out there that's that's entertaining and and people want to pay to see or pay to watch or hear or whatever the case may be. maybe Have you ever had any wrestlers on your show?
00:46:40
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Um, Wally, have we had any wrestlers on yet? i have, have it I have had a cage fighter on. don't think I've had any wrestlers yet, but we are working. Gotta to get some wrestlers. Gotta to get some wrestlers. We are. we work My son and I do a wrestling show together. He's, he's, he's a big wrestling fan. Uh, so am I. So we, we do a show together, where we just talk about wrestling and hang out. But, um,
00:47:03
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we are We are looking and and want to get ah some wrestlers on. So I know Wally, Pierce, Wally, he's on the network with us. ah he yeah He has some contacts with some local guys that we may be linking up with soon. I just told him, I said, let me get these new shows up and running before I take on any more onto my plate.
00:47:22
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yeah Yeah, the wrestlers, the wrestlers, I'm sure, no matter who you get, whether they're well-known or not, they're going to have some stories to tell you. ah It'll be fun for your audience to hear it. Yeah, exactly. Mandy had asked.
00:47:34
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Okay, yeah. No, we don't. She said the Iron Sheik hotline. So she's obviously familiar with the but the Iron Sheik. That guy was weird, man. that guy he I saw him on a Howard Stern interview not too long ago. i guess it was it was a while ago it was done.
00:47:49
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But I mean, he was dropping F-bombs about people in the wrestling business. The guy is like funny as hell. I mean, he really is funny. But he was like the evil guy because nobody liked him because I guess what was he? Well, I don't want to bring up the country now because it's a sensitive subject. But you know what I mean. He was fighting American wrestlers and it was like his country against our country back in the day. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
00:48:17
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and And he was crazy. There's some so there's some wrestlers um that were young coming up when when he was big, and they talk about some of the stories with him. And they just said he was out of control. He was a lunatic, but he was a great guy. was.
00:48:29
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Yeah, but he was a great time to hang out with. And he had no fucks to give. He just did his thing. There's a story that's floating around online. Bobby the Brain Heenan, which is a manager in the wrestling business from back in the day.
00:48:45
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He managed Andre the Giant during the time that Andre the Giant was was big. And he tells some great stories about Andre the Giant. One of them I just heard the other day that they were in a bar somewhere. And you know big Andre the Giant it was? I mean, it huge, right? Well, Bobby Heenan said that one day they went to a bar and in a four-hour span, Andre the Giant chugged Like 120 bottles of beer in a four hour period. And he walked out of there like nothing would happened. Like he wasn't drunk or anything like that. He's so big. All that beer must have went somewhere. Right. But he wasn't drunk.
00:49:22
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Yeah, that there's there's tons of stories about about his drinking back in the day and how much he could drink. And, you know, when they would walk into bars in different towns, wherever they may be. And it just yeah, I mean, great for business if you got somebody like that that can put away that much. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. Totally. yeah yeah ours characters we Definitely got to be prepared. Maybe yes, does auto tune affect live theater like it does with musicians?
00:49:50
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Do you guys use Auto Tune at all in the... No, no, not really. At least not yet anyway. I'm sure maybe down the road it might be, but not really so far, no. Now, I don't know if Broadway has in any way experienced that, but that would be an interesting question to find out. I'd be even curious about that and see if it's really starting to infiltrate the theater of these days, but not not in the communities that I have performed at.
00:50:16
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um which is primarily LA, Orange County, San Diego, Phoenix, Sacramento. But I'll check into that. That's an interesting question. have with With your career, have you had the opportunity to, this is it's kind of a ah double-sided, not double-sided question, but a two-part question.
00:50:34
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have have Have you got the opportunity to work with anybody that you absolutely loved and vice versa, people that you can't stand?
00:50:45
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Well, I have one funny story, which is my 15 minutes of fame. e So the story is 1996, I think it was.
00:50:56
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I did a show up in Westchester, California, which is right outside of l L.A. And the show was called Aspirins and Elephants. And it was the story about a family traveling on a cruise ship.
00:51:09
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and ah one of the actresses in that show was a lady by the name of Cheryl Hines. Now, Cheryl Hines is married to Robert Kennedy Jr. And Cheryl Hines is also the husband who plays the she plays the wife of Larry David in Curb Your Enthusiasm, oh which is at HBO show.
00:51:36
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So back and when I was working the show with her in 96 or 97, she was not well-known. She didn't become well-known until the 2000s. Well, in the show, there's a make-out scene between me and her.
00:51:51
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And one day I had flown my entire family in from New York to come and see this show. And there was like 25 members of my family. And I have a very loud Italian family. So my mother and father are very loud people. they They've passed away since, but they were always very loud, very dramatic and so forth.
00:52:12
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Well, Cheryl knew that my family was coming in and she kind of conspired with the other cast members that when we were going to do the makeout kiss on the night of that show, she was going to really, really do a makeout kiss. Because when you do a makeout kiss, you can sort of fake it a little bit. You know, you're not slipping any tongue in here and there, you know.
00:52:34
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So she decided she was going to trick me that night because she knew my family was there and we went at it and she would not pull back. So there I am like making out with Cheryl Hines at the time. And I hear my mother in the audience. She's like in the second row and she goes to my father. My father's name was Sam.
00:52:53
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My mother's name was Rose. And she goes, Oh my God, Sam, look what our son is doing on stage. He's kissing that woman. And Cheryl Hines kind of knew that. So the whole makeout kiss was with her. I really enjoyed working with her at the time. She was really fun. She still is very down to earth.
00:53:13
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Um, Other actors that I worked with, none of them would be of the well-known variety. And and to be honest with you, even the ones that I've worked with who weren't so well-known, but still have a good resume of maybe doing sort of like background work or maybe a supporting role in a film or something like that.
00:53:35
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All of the actors in the acting community, you know, you hear a lot of weird stuff about actors that they're kind of off the wall a little bit and stuff. And maybe they are when they become trillionaires. But yeah the truth of the matter is i have I have.
00:53:49
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admired all of the actors that I have worked with. One better than the next as far as really good people, very supportive, and and just really, really good to hang with. And that's the other thing about theater. You spend almost eight weeks with people in this theater, in this collaboration, and then all of a sudden everybody's on to their next project.
00:54:10
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yeah But the bonding the bonding of that those cast members, you can't beat that experience. And that's the other reason I do it. I've made a lot of friends in that kind of an environment.
00:54:21
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And that's the other thing about it. It's just really fun to meet people, to perform with them, to hang out with them socially and to get to know them in a very different type of way. Yeah. Now that's, that's actually really cool to hear because, and this is something that I've learned with the music, talking to to musicians and stuff. You always hear the horror stories. You hear, oh, you know, ah musicians or actors or comedians are a different, different monster, but, You know, they'll they'll sell out their own grandmother to to get ahead. But from from my interactions, and I've had a few interactions with some, which kind of drove me to this direction to start doing this show with some other people in the in the movie world.
00:55:00
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ah And they all say the same thing. Like the community is great. They all, you know, for the most part, everybody looks out for one another. Y'all. I've got a friend of mine that's a director, and he brings a lot of people back for his movies because he enjoys working with them so much and gets to spend time with them again outside of yeah do the movie. But while they're filming the movie, they get to spend a lot of time together because The community is a great community. And that's that's good to hear from actors saying that because you always hear the horror stories about, ah you know, especially like you said, the big names, you know. ah
00:55:34
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Christian Mel, you know, for one instant, he comes to mind because apparently he's ah he's a lunatic on set. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In real life, but you only hear the horror stories about him. Yeah, and you know what? Not every actor likes the actors that they're working with. And in some cases, they resent them or they... I would use the word hate, but that's a little extreme. But, you know, what happens, though, when when you go into the film or you go on stage, if you don't like that person in real life,
00:56:02
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Part of being a great actor is to be able to put that aside and to perform with that person like you like you're supposed to and you' like you like them, right? um one of the um One of the very interesting things that I kind of joke about quite a bit on social media is you know everybody has their fantasies about famous people, right?
00:56:25
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And um one of my female fantasies is um the actress Charlize Theron. Okay. Right? She was in that movie Monster. She won an Academy Award. And I think she's just an absolute beautiful woman and very classy.
00:56:42
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Well, when I tell a lot of people in L.A. and in Hollywood that that's sort of my my dream fantasy, even though I'll probably never get to meet her, but – They all start telling me that she's like this real bitch in real life.
00:56:55
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I said, no way. There's no way she's that way. You know, but there you have those horror stories where people just don't are not the same as they appear. I don't know if she is. I don't know if she's nasty on in person or not. All I know is what I see visually. and you know it's It's pretty nice. Anyway, one funny story I want to tell you. There's a restaurant in. um In l L.A.
00:57:16
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It's a breakfast place. It's on Fairfax Avenue. It's called um Cantor's. It's a very famous breakfast place. Always see celebrities when you're in there. And I went there back in 1995.
00:57:28
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five i was I went to there for have breakfast. And I look over at a table. And I think it was in 95. It might have been early 90s. And sitting there looking like a slob.
00:57:41
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I mean like a real slob. was the comedian Rodney Dangerfield, if you remember him, right? Oh, yeah. So, I mean, I'm looking at this guy, and he's sitting there, and he's dressed like an absolute hobo. I mean, he's just like totally – he gets up out of his booth,
00:57:59
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And I swear to you, no exaggeration, his fly is wide open. jesus He's in this restaurant. He's Rodney Dangerfield, right?
00:58:09
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And he gets up. He's looking like a bum. And he gets up, and his fly is wide open. don't know if he just came back from the restroom what. But um have those kinds of stories that you kind of run into in the acting community.
00:58:23
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But they're for the most part, they've all been good stories for me. Nice. I mean, that's that's that's great when you can when you can say that, you know, you've been doing it for so long and and you don't really have many bad stories. if You have more good than than than bad. that's That's always a plus. Mandy had asked me, do you ever had one that you just had to fake to be around?
00:58:44
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but but yeah I've had a couple of girlfriends that I had to be fake around to. affection No, as far as acting goes, one of the again, one of the good things about all the performers that I've worked with is pretty straightforward. I mean, they they you know if they don't like you, they're going to tell you. If they've got a problem with you, you're going to hear it. And same with me. I mean, I'm pretty straightforward guy. As you can probably tell with a little couple of stories I've shared with you here, I don't let anything, you know, I'm not afraid to say what I feel. And I think, you know, in the case of me, I've never had to fake it in front of anybody as it relates to the acting.
00:59:26
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If you don't like someone, you've still got to be an actor. So if that's faking, then there's there's the fake you know a fake. You're an actor. You're pretending that you're going to work with somebody that you don't really like in real life. So I guess you are faking it in a way.
00:59:40
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Yeah, right. Exactly. um You brought up the the make-out session. uh is scenes like that ah or whether it's on camera or on stage is that is that hard to pull off or do do you get like uh nervous or jittery or anything like knowing oh god i gotta you know there's a sex scene coming up or a you know make out heavy petting scene or whatever and all these eyes are going to be on you like
01:00:12
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so So I think most actors actors will tell you this. As far as like a makeout scene for most actors, there's a way of doing it and the way the camera angles look at people in films when they're kissing. And the actors can be fairly comfortable with that.
01:00:28
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It's really the nude scenes or the sex scenes that, you know, can make people very, very uncomfortable. Because you've remember, when you're doing film, it's not just you and that person. There's like 20 people around you that are watching you while you're naked in bed or whatever. And I think i think what winds up happening is um in my case, I did one, what I would call a pretty erotic scene in a very small film called Rosa, R-O-S-A. And it is about a woman
01:01:03
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who is being trafficked out of Mexico and comes to the United States and basically to sell her body to anybody who wants to buy it. And it's it's a very raw film. And the woman who was playing Rosa was an extremely attractive young lady. And I had to have a scene with her.
01:01:22
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So we had to rehearse, right? And I knew what the scene called for. And basically we were going to be semi-naked for the most part. And we were going to pretend we were actually having sex. And there was a big makeout scene. And I rip her clothes off and she rips my clothes off.
01:01:39
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And I knew that this was the way it was going to go prior to the scene the scene actually happening. So I was downstairs in the house that we were doing the scene in and I'm reading the script.
01:01:50
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The woman who I was playing with the scene with, she's up in the bathroom, she's taking a shower. So before she goes up there, she says to me, look, when I'm done with the shower, would you mind coming up to the bathroom so that we could kind of rehearse our our scene?
01:02:05
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I said, yeah, no problem. So as she's going up, she says to me, she goes, you don't mind if I'm naked when we rehearse, do you? I guess not. No, I don't mind. so So I go up to the bathroom, right?
01:02:18
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Like an idiot, I sit on the toilet, right? I'm sitting on the toilet. She's standing up, putting her makeup on. She's totally 100% naked. And we start the scene. And we're in the bathroom rehearsing the scene. Was I uncomfortable?
01:02:32
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Answer was yes. That was uncomfortable. Secondly, did it bother me if you get my drift? Yes, it bothered me. It did, right? But when we did the actual rehearsal,
01:02:47
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bothered me in a good way, by the way. Yeah, exactly. when we did when When we did the rehearsal, that was one thing. But when we did the scene, I take her up a stairway and we start like taking each other's clothes off before we even get into the bedroom.
01:03:02
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And then we get into the bedroom and she decides to improv the scene in the bedroom. So without getting too graphic, she improv like she was really, really having true sex and intercourse, even though we weren't, but she was really going through the motions. And I didn't expect her to do that. It wasn't very uncomfortable once the rehearsal or the the sketch that we did in the bathroom was over.
01:03:28
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But I'm sure that there are some very famous actors, and you probably heard them say it, that they have a hard time with it. And it's difficult. you know And then there are those that are just ready to go. Yeah. ah yeah no exactly. and I mean, there's some actors even out there that have, ah you know, um they won't do movies with sex scenes.
01:03:51
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Or even as far as they won't even kiss another woman on scene anymore. um Right. Because of their marriage or their beliefs or whatever. yeah. so got I couldn't imagine like 20 people and cameras and lights and microphones. And it's like, just pretend like you're having, you're going to be. Yeah. Like, remember, nobody's here. There's like 30 people surrounding Right. And by the way, you just brought up a very interesting point is in certain, certain religious beliefs, Catholicism being one of them.
01:04:21
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There is a God's law and in the Catholic Church is no premarital sex. And you obviously cannot have sex until you're married to the person that you are committed to.
01:04:36
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And there are actors and actresses that are very deep into their faith. And some of them will not do shows that require certain things, even swearing in some cases.
01:04:50
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And there are a lot of very well-known actors and actresses who are deep in their faith that you know They may be at a point where they could say, you know what, I'm going to pass on this because it violates my faith, and I don't want to do that. So it's a real thing. And and you know what, I think credit to them.
01:05:06
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I think if they have that deep, a strong faith, um I think that's a good thing, you know and they they shouldn't be embarrassed by it at all. yeah Yeah. And you would in some of them, I can't think of the gentleman's name, he's a great bad guy.
01:05:20
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in movies he's pretty He's pretty popular. He's pretty well known. You would think that in that case, it might hurt your your career or something like that, but he seems to be doing just fine still. um But he is one of those guys that, God, you just want to punch him in the face because he's he's even when he's he's almost always a bad guy, but even when he's not a bad guy, it's still like, oh, I remember the last movie I seen you or the last TV show. I still want to punch you in the face for it. Well, you know, if you have if you have those values and you stick to those values, and you should be respected for it, you know. And if you're a famous director and you want to cast someone who doesn't want to perform a certain scene in a movie because of their belief in their faith, I think you have to respect that person. You shouldn't be looking at them and judging them and saying, what are you crazy? you're not going to do this because of what you believe in your faith?
01:06:13
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You know, this is work. This is a job. But I think all due respect to those people who who stick to their guns. Exactly. Absolutely. um Have you ever had one of those moments where you're like, I don't know if I want to, I i don't want to take this role because of, you know, however you're portrayed as the actor or or the the the role or anything like that? Have you ever had that moment where you're like, nah, I'm have no values no no i'm i'm kidding obviously there are certain things that maybe i wouldn't do um particularly as you get older you're not going to want to do everything like certain things that maybe you would do when you were younger but i don't think i've ever been offered a role either on stage or in any of the films that i've done to whereby i said no i don't want to do that now
01:07:00
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you know There are scripts that suck when you get a script. you know And you're saying, well, what should I really do this as an actor? And then you've got to ask yourself, well, even if the script sucks, is the character that you're portraying something that you could really sink your teeth in and make it worthwhile? And you have to look at it that way as well. But I don't think there's anything there off the top of my head that comes to comes to mind whereby I just totally turned something down because because of my values. No, I don't think that was the case.
01:07:30
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He's one of us, ladies and gentlemen. very Yeah, totally. Totally. What's that? That's overrated. now expected i've ah I've turned down some guests for that same reason. They sucked. And it's like, yeah you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:07:51
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um yeah that's This has always been something Robert you beat me to it buddy How you doing by the way Do you memorize the whole script or Yeah so if if I'm one character In a movie um And that's a great question Robert Because any good actor Should have a full knowledge Of that script because remember when you're doing a film You may be on set only three days And see the other actors Only those three days meantime you never see them again Right and they're doing other scenes
01:08:22
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You should have an idea what that script is about and you should memorize as much as possible because ultimately what that's going to do is it's going to make your performance, no matter how brief or how long it is in that film, better. So you understand the story.
01:08:35
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You have to understand the story in order to do the job that you're supposed to do as the actor, no matter how short your scene might be or how long your scene might be.
01:08:47
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now that's ah I guess that's, you got to kind of know what's going on, you know, so you can kind of determine how you're going to portray your your you're your character. Totally.
01:08:59
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and's I'm lazy. I would just be like, all right what do I do? What do I say? All right. I'm sure there's some people that do that as well. just me yeah Give me my lines and I'll get the heck out of here and I'm done. Yeah.
01:09:09
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Yeah, in my lines, give me my paycheck. Maybe I'll stop at catering on the way in or the way out. know, even even in even in theater, Glick, um it's it's really important that you read the whole script and under you even should you should actually...
01:09:25
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memorize, if not just the out cues of the other characters, but also some of their lines as well, because that'll help you understand, because if they do screw up, you'll know what line they screwed up on and you can, you can pick up from there. So it's also good to read the the full theatrical script as well.
01:09:43
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Yeah.
01:09:46
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So have you, with, with, with everything you've done and, and, and, and still doing, I'm assuming, And whatnot. Have you been fortunate enough to be recognized amongst your peers with like awards and or nominations or anything like that?
01:10:00
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Yeah, i have an I have an IMDB page, which most actors do. And a lot of the films that were done by independent producers that I was in.
01:10:10
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one of the things that they almost have to do religiously is submit to film festivals because that's somehow how they get their films recognized, right?
Charlie's Acting Awards and Roles
01:10:19
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And um I've been fortunate in some of the documentaries. One of the documentaries, a director made me a character called Nostradamus. Nostradamus was the person who predicted the future from back in the 1700s. So I grew my beard out really long, longer than it is now. And I became this character, Nostradamus, and I did these documentaries about how Nostradamus' predictions from back in the 1700s actually hold firm in today's day and age, like particularly in the political world.
01:10:55
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So the Nostradamus character... I actually did quite well. And it was quite detailed as to what I had to do. So I won awards for that. um Best actor in a documentary. Best actor in a short film.
01:11:10
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I've also done what you do. I interview people and do interview segments. And I've won best interviewer for a short interview segment. So all of these films that I've done, even though the the directors were independent directors with very low budgets,
01:11:26
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they do submit to film festivals. So there's a notoriety there. So when you go onto your IMDB page, there's something called a ranking. Now, I mentioned Charlize Theron a little while ago, who's a very famous actress. If you look up Charlize Theron, her ranking in IMDb is like 13, right? Out of like trillion people that are on IMDb. Well, my IMDb ranking is about 400,000. So when you look at that ranking, if that means anything, right? But there's rankings that are 4 million as well.
01:11:59
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So you're kind of like, that's notoriety for you. I've never hired an agent. I'm not sure I really do want an agent. they not only cut it They cut into your our ah your your profit, but also they can also help you get more work. And I may hire one down the road because I do know a couple of actors that speak very highly of of some agents that they work with. But those awards are very nice because it opens the door for other things.
01:12:26
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If people see you've won an award as a certain character, and especially as you get older, You know, I always thought as I got older, the roles would become less and less.
01:12:37
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I've been shocked. I've actually been shocked. They seem to be coming more and more. And I'm getting like roles all over the place where I have my choice of what I want to do or not do. So it's actually becoming quite beneficial that I'm aging. Not that I like aging, but for that, it's helping.
01:12:55
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Yeah. I mean, you got to take the wins where you can as we get older, you know. Yeah, certainly.
01:13:04
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um Do you have, obviously, Charlize is up there, but is there like that one actor or director or somebody that you haven't got a chance to work with that you really, really would like to get the opportunity to?
01:13:18
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Well, I mean, clearly, you know, if you're talking about the highest of highest actors, the person that I certainly admire the most is Pacino, for sure, Al Pacino. I think his ability to...
01:13:33
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create these different characters over time has been extraordinary. I mean, yeah ah short of meeting him, I doubt I'll ever be in a film with him. But John Travolta is another one who I think created a very charismatic on screen type of persona that has done him very, very well over the many years. Some of the actresses that I think today are terrific.
01:14:00
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Emma Stone is a terrific actress, actually is a big San Diego Padres fan. She's at the games all the time. And you know these are these are actresses that you look up to and you say these are performers that, you know Meryl Streep, um some of Denzel Washington, ah De Niro, um Ray Liotta, who passed away recently, and did the Goodfellas movie.
01:14:25
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Guys like that who do some characters in movies, some of them are starring roles. um You know, I don't know if I'll ever get to meet them. I don't know if I'll ever get to work with them. But certainly you look at them and you say, okay, this is the way they did it.
01:14:40
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What can you do with your own little... ah way of acting that takes what they provide on screen or on stage and make that something better for you. So I haven't really gotten to the point where I've been able to work with anybody famous other than Cheryl Hines, who was the make out kiss person, but for the most for the most part, yeah, there's my IMDB link. Very nice.
01:15:05
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Thank you. Is that Kayla? yeah well Thank you very much for putting that up girlfriend killer Hopefully there'll be enough people That'll see that Kayla And my ranking will go down And I can get near Charlize And if I get near Charlize Maybe she'll recognize me Yeah there you go We're making dream we're trying to make dreams happen around here There you go that's a good thing good for you Thank you Kayla for that Appreciate it yeah um Yeah so link right there Drop that you know if you guys click that link Go check out Charlize All his info you know There's a lot there's a lot on there. um you know
01:15:40
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um I try to do my homework enough, but you know I sometimes may ask obvious questions. I actually had this happen to me one time. and i and It took me a second to react. I ask a musician something. They're like, well didn't did you go to my webpage?
01:15:58
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and I'm like, Yeah, I did. Just because I read your webpage doesn't mean everybody else in the audience has read your webpage. It's kind of the point of the interview. And it took me a couple minutes to to save the interview because it could have went south real quick. But I was able to, and he came back around, and he was a great guest.
01:16:17
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But he just kind of like, whoa. And I kind of like, hey, hold on a second. Yeah, i don't i don't I don't really hide my social media profiles for either Facebook or Instagram, TikTok, whatever. So they're open to the public there. So if you just Google my name, and by the way, I'll tell you another funny story really quick.
01:16:35
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But if you Google my name, you'll find my Facebook, you'll find my Instagram, TikTok, et cetera. And of course, the IMDb. um i was I actually appeared on Divorce Court.
01:16:48
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which is that that show where you know you're you're in a relationship and you know your relationship is going south and you want to talk about the craziness. And they they flew us out to Atlanta where they filmed and we did Divorce Court with Star Jones as the judge.
01:17:06
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That's also, if you Google if you google me, as much as I hate to say it, that video is very, very apparent on social media. It's all over YouTube. It's on Apple. It's everywhere.
01:17:19
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And if I was, I mean, if you really want to laugh, I'd encourage you to actually watch it. It's, it's actually rather funny because I play sort of, I play sort of an older man who is, um,
01:17:31
Speaker
seeking out a midlife crisis and decides that he wants to venture into the younger women of the world. And when I say younger women, I'm talking about like thirties and forties, not teenagers or anything. And, um,
01:17:44
Speaker
and and i And I'm in a marriage and that's one of my my my situations is I'm bored. And I actually come out and say I'm bored. you know so ah i Excuse the expression, but I'm kind of a dick in ah in it yeah and in this thing. So you should go and watch it though. It's kind of funny.
01:18:05
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Definitely have to everybody check that out um and check it out. um It sounds like you've had just quite a life, man. Like, you've got all kinds of experiences and stories and and whatnot. That's got to, I mean, i I don't know relationship status, but just... Oh, please, don't even get
Relationship Reflections and Advice
01:18:30
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into that. And sharing some of your stories from being an actor, does that help you with the ladies or does that kind of...
01:18:37
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ah sweat Oh, God, he's an actor. Gross. ah geez you Oh, You know what? you know what i don't I certainly don't get that. Well, he's an actor. Stay away from him. yeah Every actor, athlete, whatever profession you're in, we're all human beings, right?
01:18:55
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And we all have our our character flaws. And whether it shows in a relationship or it shows in business or it shows when you're working as and with other actors, My relationship status is I've been married twice.
01:19:09
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Once when I was really young. As a matter of fact, my daughter who showed up on the chat is from my first marriage, but I was married really, really young. And, you know, people that young, you don't really know much about each other yet You don't even know much about life. Right. And then I got married later on in life, which was the second marriage for about six years.
01:19:28
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But to be very honest with you, personally, this is really kind of a personal thing is I've been in a once I got through the second marriage, which was in, ended in 2002 or three, somewhere around there, I've been in a self-evaluation period of, of my own self-evaluation trying to understand, okay, what is it that I've done wrong in my, in my life?
01:19:53
Speaker
Not only relationships, but in general, yeah and what have I done? What have I done? Right. um Where is my faith? If I have any faith at all, where is that as it relates to where I am today?
01:20:05
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So for about a 15 or 20 year period leading up to where you and I are talking today, relationship status is relationships for me have not been priorities because I felt like I had to really evaluate who I am.
01:20:22
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what I'm about, what I do right, what I do wrong, how can I improve? Because if I'm going to be in another relationship, you better have learned those lessons because you don't want to you don't want to pull the proverbial hat trick in marriage where you're married three times like a hockey player gets a hat trick. So you don't want to pull the hat trick in marriage and you want to make sure that you got it right this time.
01:20:43
Speaker
And I'll tell you, very honestly, I've admitted to my friends recently, it's one of the things that I just, as as successful of a career that I've had, a successful and fun life that I've had, I will be the first to admit you to you that the one thing I haven't gotten right yet is a one-on-one relationship with a person of the opposite sex. And, um, I still have hope because I'm gaining wisdom and you learn, but, um, I'm definitely in a self-evaluation period.
01:21:15
Speaker
I ain't nothing wrong with that. That's, that's actually a good thing. I mean, your self self-awareness and whatnot. Um, I think i think i i'm um I'm thinking I'm hoping that I did it right this time. but I'm with you. I have not had the greatest luck in relationships. and And unfortunately, most of which have played out right here on this network. I'm sure. i'm sure. Yeah, it's very hard. Look, I always say, you know, I don't want to be ah I don't want to certainly be a pessimistic about this, but.
01:21:42
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um And I think ah everybody's got their own little habits, right? And as you get older, some of those habits are hard to break. And it becomes tougher and tougher. It's like looking for a needle in a haystack sometimes because the compatibility has got to be you know, almost a hundred percent. And there's a lot of different ways of, of dealing with your own insufficiencies or your own, um your own problems and your own issues. And that and there are other people obviously that have your issues as well. I watched a stream by a marriage council that suggested doing exactly what Charlie is doing. And there's no question about it, Robert. I mean, you've got to be in touch with yourself.
01:22:20
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I've told somebody this recently, and this is something I found out. And I think everybody who's listening to the show and watching, Take this into consideration because I truly believe it's the right thing.
01:22:33
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When you enter in a relationship and you start feeling you start having feelings, you're going have those feelings in two places, in your head, in your mind, and in your heart.
01:22:46
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Okay. I will tell everybody always go with what your heart is telling you. Don't go with what your mind is telling you because your mind is going to convolute everything. Your heart, if you've got feelings that are coming from your heart for another person, that's the true feelings. And then, and then the way you justify and support those feelings is by your eye to eye contact with that other person.
01:23:13
Speaker
If you can do that and you can know what your heart is telling you, likelihood is you won't go wrong. In the past, I never, never went with what my heart was telling me. yeah I was always going with what my brain was telling me and what other parts of my body was telling me. And that doesn't work.
01:23:33
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No, that doesn't. That other part of your body, especially men, gets us into a lot of trouble. Absolutely. Absolutely. And marriage counselors, I think, will will tell you that, you know, self-evaluation is very important. Very important.
01:23:46
Speaker
Oh, I look. on thinking Oh, yeah Robert, you look like a gerbil. Is that what you're saying? but but Poor Robert. I'm sure you don't, Robert. There's always. that there's so i Look, even though I've struck out a few times in my life on the dating as well as the marriage part.
01:24:03
Speaker
I am very convinced that there is someone out there for everybody. So never have a lack of confidence about it. I had, a I had honestly personally just said, Oh, the hell of it. I'm just going to let the universe figure it out. And whatever happens, happens. And then I met my girlfriend and it's just like, did you, did you meet her? Was it planned or did you meet her unexpectedly?
01:24:23
Speaker
Unexpectedly. Yeah. there you done and And it was one of those things where, we We met online. We started talking. We both told each other that we weren't looking for anything crazy, anything serious. Just maybe we'll hang out. Maybe we'll have a good time. Maybe we won't. And then the moment we met, yeah, whoever decides fate or destiny or whatever had other plans because we've been together since the the day we met. so That's awesome. That's awesome. Keep it going. Keep it going. got to work at it, though, obviously. but Oh, yeah.
01:24:55
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Yeah. Sometimes meeting unexpectedly is is is is almost the best way to do it. So you don't have any prejudgments or anything. You just meet unexpectedly because something you you hit it off somehow, smile or whatever it is. But that's good. That's a good way to do it.
01:25:11
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and And, you know, and we're both working on ourselves, but we help each other. You know, like I have no problem putting all my flaws out there. And that's the other thing you run into with relationships. You want to hide certain things or or so hide certain flaws because you don't want to be judged.
01:25:27
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both of us just this is who who we are right that's right believe it so you know there's there's a word i've always heard in my life as a matter of fact i heard it um when i was i grew up catholic in new york and i went to a catholic school and i have the knuckles that are sore to prove it but But when I went to Catholic school, there was a word that was always used.
01:25:52
Speaker
And I said, how do people actually do that? There's a word called unconditional, right? and And unconditional is basically self-explanatory is you like that person for good and for bad, um even though, you know, the good is what attracts you. But if you're in a relationship where you're going to be married or you're together and you're honest with each other, it's an unconditional relationship where you're There are no flaws. And if there are, you deal with them. You talk them through. You communicate about it. But yeah that's what the unconditional love is about. And that's the best kind.
01:26:24
Speaker
Exactly. 100%. And and that's it's that's hard to find in the world today. i mean It is. habit Today, it's it's ah it's a crazy world. Mad world. It isn it is indeed. ah you know And again, I hope, and I will use this venue, I hope that where we went in this past weekend and the world and the where we're at um gets better over the next few weeks because we certainly don't want to see what's going on but you don't want to see loss of lives and stuff like that and look you know whether you're on one side of the aisle or and or the other war is not good it's just really not so
01:27:06
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Yeah. It's, it's, you know, unfortunately, ah you know, some people will say, you know, it's a necessity. It's just that and other thing, but it's, it's, it's tragic on both sides.
01:27:16
Speaker
It is. Absolutely. ah Winning at the end of the day, you might say, oh yeah, well we won, we got our way or you know, this, that, or the other thing, but, There really is no winners at the end of the day, you know, because yeah one one life, one life lost in a situation like that. And it's a losing situation. 100%. So, um, before we, before we wrap up and get out of here, um,
Theater Performances and New Opportunities
01:27:40
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or as we're getting to the end. Do you have any any other projects or anything coming out that you know you people should keep an eye out for? Obviously, yeah you we're gonna we're go get some eyes on you. People are gonna probably start checking out some of your some of your stuff and if you've got new projects coming out and and whatnot.
01:27:58
Speaker
Yes. So um right now i'm I'm currently finishing up. but I don't know if we're finishing up because they keep scheduling new shows. But March and April, the jury experience Death by AI continues.
01:28:09
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It'll be at the Joan B. Kroc Theater on University Avenue in San Diego. For anybody that is in the San Diego, Orange County or LA area, it's March 28th at 830.
01:28:20
Speaker
that's ah That's the 830 p.m. show. There are still tickets available. The six o'clock show is sold out. And then our next performance of the jury experience is April 25th. There's a show at 6 and there's a show at 830 at the Peace and Justice Theater on the campus of the University of San Diego.
01:28:37
Speaker
That's what I'm currently doing. While I'm doing that, I have just recently auditioned up in Orange County. for a dinner theater show, which I got cast as the father of the bride, which that show is supposed to launch in December of 26. We'll probably start rehearsals in around July or August.
01:28:56
Speaker
And then the other thing is um I was solicited because of the jury experience that I'm doing and ah and and I play an attorney. um Someone found that out and they they actually actually operate a podcast network and it's a network that needed some hosts like you.
01:29:16
Speaker
And they found out that I was an attorney and they said, or I was an attorney in the show and they said, well, we have a podcast hosting position.
01:29:27
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uh, where we are going to have attorneys as guests. So I'd like you to use some of that experience and become a host. So I signed on to be a host of a number of podcasts, uh, what they're going to do with them. I don't know, but it'll be a very interview type segment, but it only is with attorneys. So it's nothing else, no other genre. So we'll see how that goes. So some the, some of the projects, but as I said earlier,
01:29:53
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There's a ton of stuff available in California to do for actors. You just got to submit, make sure you do a good audition tape. A lot of the tapes now are self tapes. So you got to do it at home on your own. I've got a green screen. I've got some lighting here. So I just basically audition tapes are done at my house.
01:30:09
Speaker
Very few are done in person anymore. So we'll see where it goes, but there's plenty of opportunities. And I kind of, you know, because I have another job that makes me real money, which is my advertising job.
01:30:20
Speaker
I've got to balance that a little bit. So my schedule kind of has to be careful. Yeah, that's the, that's, that's, ah you know, when you still got the the regular nine to five and trying to, it was like when I was trying to bounce around, like what, what, because we have a show that comes on right after I get done here.
01:30:38
Speaker
And I was like, I got to figure out what day I want to do this show at what time. and it's like, man, I'm literally going to be on Mondays getting home from work and running right into the studio but but and setting everything up. But it's worth it at the end of the day.
01:30:50
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um So basically what it sounds like out there in L.A. in that area where you're at, that there's no lack of opportunity as long as if it's what you really want. You just may not be getting the ah the big you know the big Hollywood films and stuff like that you know if you want to be coming out. I think that's, you know, I mean, for me anyway, i I certainly would not speak for other actors because everybody has their own goals and ambitions. But for me, it was never about the big the big stage. I mean, it would it would be nice, sort of like the the meeting your girlfriend. If it happens unexpectedly, great. If I can use what I'm doing now to improve my skills to where I can get to another level, I'm
01:31:29
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Great. ah But I'm not going i'm not like saying that that's got to be my ultimate end passion. My passion right now is to do as many of these shows as possible.
01:31:40
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Because like I said, it's invaluable to my own personal growth as a person of what I get out of being a different character. It helps a lot. Yeah, absolutely.
01:31:51
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um And that kind of goes into what I was going to say for anybody, you know, that may be watching or anybody that follows you on, on other platforms and and whatnot.
Advice for Aspiring Actors
01:32:00
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um Is there any advice you'd give somebody that may be thinking about getting and no matter what age, not necessarily, because I mean, I know, you know, obviously some people get into their career, yeah go back to the wrestling conversation. I think DDP was a diamond Dallas page was almost 40 years old when he started his wrestling career and became a world heavyweight champion. And they, They told him he was too old, you know, ah and or whatever. So it doesn't matter how old old or young or whatever. Any advice that you would throw out there or even advice you'd like to somebody would have told you and you were like, I think I'm going to be an actor.
01:32:34
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Yeah, I mean, I think you hear this bit of advice lots of times from a lot of people. And I'll expand on a couple of other things that I would personally suggest. Everybody says, you know, follow the dream, live your dream out. Don't give up.
01:32:47
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You know, no matter how hard it is, no matter how many challenges you encounter, you've got to bounce right back and don't give up. Because auditioning in California, particularly, even in New York or anywhere, it's a cattle call, honestly.
01:33:03
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There's a lot of people out there that are actors. It's very competitive. You can't give up. You you have to have a very secure feeling about yourself. You have to be confident.
01:33:14
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Insecurity has no place in the acting business because you're going to question. Every time you don't get a role, you're going to question yourself. Don't do that. Do not do that. Know that you're good.
01:33:25
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Know that there's a role out there for you because not every role fits you. It doesn't fit your physical appearance. It may not fit how good you are with your acting skills.
01:33:36
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There is something out there for you and you may hit a role one day. That launches you. All right. you can never give up. You have to continuously strive. You have to have patience.
01:33:49
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You cannot be insecure as an actor. And you have to be sure that you have the time and the resources to pursue what you want to pursue. Hence the fact that whether you like it or not, you have to earn money while you're doing that.
01:34:06
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why you're and yeah That's why everybody always says a struggling actor. A struggling actor works wait is a waiter at ah at a restaurant. A struggling actor drives a lift or an Uber car.
01:34:19
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you know A struggling actor has part-time work. You've got to still put food on the table you know at the same time you pursue your dream. But don't give up. Don't give up on what the dream is. And set yourself a goal.
01:34:31
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Is your goal to be on Broadway? Is your goal to make a trillion dollars in a major motion picture? You know, what is your goal? And then you have to shoot for it. Younger people, it's a little easier because you've got more time, supposedly.
01:34:46
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People, sometimes your goals are shifting a little bit, right? So you've got to be careful as as to make sure theyre that your goals are reality, you know, and you can't really fool yourself. But I would suggest, you know, no insecurity.
01:35:00
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Be patient. Pursue the dream. Go after the roles you think are good and fit you physically. and And really give your best work and your best effort and focus. Don't lose focus.
01:35:13
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If you're doing one show or one film, do that as the best you can. Don't start thinking about what's next after that. And start jumping around and lose focus on the project that you just got hired for. Because that doesn't matter.
01:35:31
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I think that's i think it's one of the biggest things with anybody. yeah you know um A lot of people are so quick to just give up. Oh, i didn't get I didn't get this, or that didn't happen, or, ah well, this failed. So, yeah, man, you got to agree with that 100%. Just keep going.
01:35:48
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At the end of the day, if at first you what is it first you don't succeed, try again. And that's, you know what, it if you look at what acting is,
01:35:59
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acting is a job. It's a job, right? Being a baseball player is a job. yeah It may be fun. You know, it may not be that nine to five job that a lot of people have, but it's a job.
01:36:11
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And the entertainment world is a business. So you are an actor doing a job in a very big business. You're a baseball player doing your job in a very big business. And that's how you have to look at it. You know, it is a job.
01:36:28
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And if you get paid to act all well and good. Great. If you do it because you just like doing it um it, it makes you feel good. It gives you rewards, whatever it is that makes you feel good. That's the other part about it. You've got to like what you're doing.
01:36:44
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Don't put pressure on yourself because then you're going to think, well, this sucks. I don't want to do this. It's too much pressure. No, don't
Unexpected Casting Stories and Musical Tastes
01:36:50
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do that to yourself. Yeah. I've always reminded there's a, there's a story about a very famous actor who was told once upon a time, he didn't have the right look. He, he, he, he wasn't very good at his lines. He, you know, he would never make it in in Hollywood then he should just give up.
01:37:09
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So he stayed in Hollywood and didn't know anything about carpentry and became a very famous, very well known and very well respected carpenter for stars and producers and stuff like that. And a friend of his said, uh, I need you to fill in for a casting call. You're not going to get to part. You're not even auditioning for the part. They just need a body.
01:37:29
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Yeah. And so he went in and he was angry and he was upset and he read the lines for the part and the director absolutely fell in love with him. and the director just so happened to be George Lucas.
01:37:41
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And that actor was one Mr. Harrison Ford. How about that, huh? Yeah. And boom, he said, you know, you weren't, you weren't even supposed to be auditioning, but he landed the role in Star Wars. And we all know this, the the story with Harrison Ford, the history I mean, he's he's one of the top guys in Hollywood and he has been for years.
01:38:02
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So that's what you're saying. That's a great story. I had never heard that before about him. And, you know, the other part that's interesting as well about when you go on auditions, whether it be a famous director or somebody not so well known,
01:38:16
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how many times are you going to hear, you know you suck at reading the lines, you really can't read lines, but you got a great look, right? And you got that look that we really need and we're going to put you in this show and you can develop as an actor and your lines and figure that out later, but you got the right look for this. yeah And so many people have gotten breaks like that.
01:38:35
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And that is part of it. you know As much as we like to play down the physical stuff about a person, it's very true. If you have a certain look, and you're in the right place at the right time, you could very well get a break.
01:38:49
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Yep, exactly. You never know. You just be waiting tables. you know You just never know where that moment's going to hit. you know what No matter what your passion is, just keep going.
01:39:02
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Don't give up on it. i like I like that. I like that a lot. um Where can everybody find you at so that they can, if they want to follow you and share keep track of what you're doing and what what's going on?
01:39:16
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So the easiest way to do it, I'm in the process of building my own acting website. And I'm working with a a group that's going to be building that soon. So we don't have the ah URL yet, but I'm finding out the more roles I'm getting, the more important it is to have that window into my life. So basically my windows right now is Facebook, Facebook and Instagram for the most part, a little bit of YouTube. So the best way that anyone could really check me out is to just write down my name,
01:39:43
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Charlie D'Natal or Charles D'Natal and just Google me and you'll bring up everything you need to know if you're interested in finding me or wanting to do some research. Just yeah, there's the Facebook link as well.
01:39:56
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um Kayla's right on top of this stuff. Kayla, can I use you as an agent maybe down the road? You can promote me if you like. um yeah Yeah. I mean, Facebook and Instagram and TikTok and YouTube, just Google me and go to those sites and you're going to find a lot of stuff. You'll see my Elvis so review on my Facebook page.
01:40:22
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Neil Sedaka recently just died this week. he was a singer from back in the 70s and 60s and i did a little reflection video on him so there's a lot of ways you you just google my name it's that it's that simple until i get the website uh you have to use facebook and and and instagram and youtube and tick tock to check out stuff i would say facebook though you're going find most stuff and if you do find my facebook page do not be shy request me as a request as a friend and i'd be more than happy to add you as a friend
01:40:53
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um and uh you can follow me that way it'd be a lot easier to do it that way he's not a hard gentleman to find no not at all and sometimes he'll find you that's true that's true yeah but i would encourage people um go to go to the facebook page and you know, request as a friend and that's to be the best way. And look at Kayla's, Kayla, how much do you charge? That's great. Thank you so much, Kayla.
01:41:23
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Very nice of you to promote that. we guess We got some very hard workers back behind the scenes that helped me along and make the show even better. If I knew that, I'd probably have brought more ammunition with me and given you everything I've gotten. Thank you so much for putting that up. I appreciate it.
01:41:41
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It's going to help. me No, absolutely. Everybody check out Charlie. Go say hi to him. You know, he's a very friendly guy, obviously. Him and i had some pretty cool conversations. That's one of the other things that doing these interview shows, you know,
01:41:56
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you never You can't really get a feel for somebody just through text. But sometimes sometimes ah the personality comes through and you're like, okay, yeah, he's going to be a fun guest. and That's why I try to open up the studio a little bit beforehand. And that way you don't come in completely cold. like Sure. That's a good idea. That's a good idea.
01:42:15
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This guy with his stupid podcast and his dumb belts behind him. Yeah. And by the way, this works both ways. is Not only is this good promotion for me, but I clearly will get the word out to as many people as possible about your network and your show. Try to get you as many followers. That's what it's all about.
01:42:36
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Share and subscribe and all of that stuff. And I will be following some of your shows. If you need me again, please feel free to reach out. Absolutely. I'd be more than happy to come on back. But I love the opening theme song.
01:42:50
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I love the Glicks drive-in concept. I love that. And remember, I'm a marketing guy, so i kind of yeah I kind of like what you've been doing to promote yourself. So keep up the good work.
01:43:00
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not not too bad for Not too bad for a big, dumb animal. as as theyre falses here They call me their Sasquatch. I'm just a giant Sasquatch. I appreciate that. Thank you. That does make me feel good. i did I did a cruise to Alaska not too long ago. I saw a lot of guys that look like you. mirroring everything They're all over the place. Yeah. Oh, yeah. there no um So, you know, this is ah this is fun. And anybody and in the in the acting community, feel free to send them our way. I'm looking for guests all the time. I try to book myself out guest-wise about two months in advance. So I'm always looking for new guests and new people to hang out with, obviously.
01:43:42
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from from any, anywhere, ah you know, what whatever over there their experience in the in the movies and televisions or or theater. I know there's a few. days i'm ah I'm a member of the San Diego Actors Community and is a large group of people that I've worked with as well as a large members in that group.
01:44:01
Speaker
And I'm sure that I know that there are some that I've worked with that might have some interesting tales to talk to you about that I think you would find interesting. So I'd be more than happy to refer people to you for sure. I'd be greatly appreciated, you know, as we as we grow and do what we're doing here. And and just being able to, you know, to get into that community and, and and you know, hear the stories and see what it's like.
01:44:22
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i think it's one of my favorite things with the music thing is because you get to see so many different personalities and so many different backgrounds of how you know people just kind of stumble into acting or or you know oh i picked the camera when i was six years old and i've been either behind or in front of one sentence you know do you play any instruments quick at all i don't uh the only instrument i have is apparently my voice and my personality okay so as a follow as a follow-up to that your favorite band of all time.
01:44:54
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My favorite band of all time. Man.
01:45:03
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yeah man why don't i want really gotta think about that. I would probably say one of my favorite bands has always been Guns N' Roses. ah In the Rye. Yeah. yeah Or Megadeth.
01:45:16
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Okay. uh individuals uh garth brooks is one of my favorites i love his career i love what he does how he steps out of the norm and and just kind of does his thing you know he doesn't necessarily he's a country guy but he's also been known to get down on some rock and roll and stuff like that so well you know i i think guns and roses is a great pick um certainly they they've had a great career and well established um when i look back on that question
01:45:48
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and I have a few more years on you then. So I go back even when Elvis was around in the 60s and the Beatles started in the 60s. But then we we went into the 70s and the 80s and the 90s.
01:46:00
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if you so If you go back from the 50s, here's Elvis in the fifty s Here's Taylor Swift in 2026, right? yeah All those years have gone by. And I will tell you,
01:46:16
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Elvis, The Beatles, Three Dog Night. And for those of you who don't know Three Dog Night, look them up. Now, they never wrote their own songs.
01:46:29
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But between 1969 and 1974, they were like all over the radio. They had some great songs. One, Jeremiah was a bullfrog, Joy to the World. Never been to Spain. Mama told me not to come. All these songs. Three Dog Nights, one of my favorite bands. Yet they were never, ever wrote their own songs. They did everything cover.
01:46:51
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Okay. But they had three guys that harmonized like nobody ever did. Oh, that's what made them so great. yeah Three Dog Night. And then when you get into the 80s, I kind of was ah along the lines of Metallica, Guns N' and Roses. There was a group called Warrant back in the 80s. Oh, yeah.
01:47:10
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Yeah. So those groups in the 80s are the real rockers, you know, Springsteen, I like. um But yeah, I think Guns N' Roses is a great pick, though. Great pick. Yeah. They were just one of those bands that I still like, I remember the first time I heard them.
01:47:24
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And it was that Appetite for Destruction album. My cousin, who was a few years older than me, she was playing it and it was just like, what and who is this? And why can I not get enough?
01:47:36
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And even with all the drama and the craziness and everything like that. They were always one of those bucket list bands for me. And I actually got to see the original lineup a few years back when they came back together. And it was it was amazing.
01:47:48
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um But um' so I listen to everything music-wise. So it's hard for me to just be like, what is that one band or that one artist? you know Because I can think of a few. like I love the blues and always been a big fan of like Robert Cross or Stevie Ray Valky.
01:48:02
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you stuff like that. um So just I guess it just depends on where I'm at in my, when I'm listening to music, what genre, what era I'm in. And then it's like, oh, well, you know, I've been listening to a lot of fifties right now, you know? So.
01:48:16
Speaker
And you're also, you're also into sports, right? Oh, yeah. And you said earlier you you are or were a big Cincinnati Reds fan? ah i'm a I love my Reds. Okay. If you're ever down in California and you come down to San Diego, make sure you keep my information. Reach out to me, and we'll go to a Padres game because they the it's a whole great experience, as I'm sure the Reds games are at the Great American Ballpark. But for sure, if you're down in San Diego, make sure you look me up, and we'll hang out at the ballpark.
01:48:48
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If I ever find my way myself out there, out in California, I'll definitely ah let you know. Looks like we got a San Diego native here, Drew. Drew Rivers lives in San Diego.
01:48:59
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Where in San Diego are you, Drew? Can you hear me? guess ah that's all the One thing, I've never been to a Reds game in Cincinnati. I've only seen the Reds ever play in Cleveland.
01:49:11
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Really? Yeah. That ballpark in Cincinnati is like a little league field, isn't it? It's really small. it's and It's a nice field from what I've seen. I mean, you you drive by it and stuff, but I think it is one of the smaller it is stadiums and and baseball, but East County. Drew lives in the East County. Okay.
01:49:32
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Okay. I'm in Rancho Bernardo, Drew. That's also in the, it's in the Northeast County up in up in the North County of San Diego. But if you guys are ever around, look me up, say hi.
01:49:44
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Yeah, hit them up, say hi, go see the Padres play. Yeah, go see the Padres. Guardians are right. and They had a pretty good season last year. Yeah. I would love for the Reds and, well, now Guardians to get their act together and both be great in the same year so we can have an Ohio World Series. That'd be nice. That'd be nice.
01:50:04
Speaker
The Reds should be pretty good this year. they should They have some good young talent. They should be good. Yeah, they've been doing a lot. And pre I know it's only spring ball, but they're looking pretty good in spring ball. Yeah, right yeah, yeah.
01:50:16
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I'm not mad at it. um Charlie, absolutely. ah Good evening from New Mexico. What's going on, Carney? New Mexico. Wow.
01:50:27
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Yeah. We got, this is this is one of the strange things about the, one of the strange and great things about the internet. We have fans from all over the world. We have people that watch us from all over the world. And um i will say, i didn't think many people listened to us here in Ohio, but apparently we've got a pretty large fan base in Ohio. They keep us in the- Top 10 of the best 100 podcasts in all of Ohio. So I'm like, hey, keep listening, in Ohio. Very nice. We're going to try to build up your base here in California.
01:50:58
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Get some of these California people off the beaches and watch you. Yeah, little nonsensical takeover for California. You got it. You got it. Anything that has the word nonsense in, you can't dislike it.
01:51:09
Speaker
Yeah, you can't go wrong with that. Right. you Good job. You did a good job. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. What's going on, Stiffy? ah appreciate and Charlie, i appreciate you coming by, man. It was a pleasure meeting you. It was a lot of fun hanging out with you. Look forward to doing it again down the road, even to just hang out and have more conversations. as That's really what all these shows are about, is just hanging out, having a good time, and getting to know a little something about what people are doing out there.
01:51:37
Speaker
Love the concept. Love the idea. Keep up the good work. We'll follow you and let's stay in touch and good health to you the rest of the year. Definitely appreciate it man. ah For those of you who are still hanging out, coming up here in about, what, Wally, 15, 20 minutes? Wally's going to be coming up with Speedway Stories with, ah oh, he's going to kick me in the head.
01:52:02
Speaker
I know he's told me like 10 times, but it's not like I haven't had a million things. He does have a guest. I know he's got his ears on. Who is it, Wally? Tell me again. What is it? 15 minutes.
01:52:14
Speaker
I can't remember his guest. I don't know. He's doing so much. I'm so happy for that guy. He's killing it. Never done podcasting before. He joined the network about a year ago. He was a mess when he first started. And and now he's killing it. And that's cool. That's cool. There we go, Wes.
01:52:28
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By the way, for the the people, thank you very much for the people in the chat who participated. Thanks for listening and good luck to all of you. Stay well, stay healthy. And I'm going to sign off. Click.
01:52:39
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yep Appreciate it. I got to do my closing. Have a great one. And definitely. Thank you.
01:52:46
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Make sure y'all go give Charlie a follow. He was awesome. ah Tune in next, literally coming up 15 minutes. Wally with Wes. Sorry, Wally. My apologies, man. You know, my brain's everywhere. And I know you've told me about 10 times. Wes is going to be hanging out with him again. Wes is an awesome guest on Speedway Stories. Tomorrow, I'll be back with Mark Mason, a country singer out of Cleveland on Glick's House of Music. And then Wednesday night, I'll Mark Mason.
01:53:15
Speaker
Clicks Comedy Lounge. I'll have Kevin Holly on. We'll be talking all things, his comedy, his stand-up. I'm sure that's not all we're going to be talking about. Kevin and I have been friends for a little over a decade now, so we've got stories and shenanigans, plenty to so tune into that because that's going to be b the the other new show here on the network, Clicks Comedy Lounge.
01:53:37
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So we've got Kevin Holly coming up this week. Wally Thursday with... ah The Animal Kingdoms, Cold-Blooded Conversations. Don't know what's going on Fridays yet. It's kind up in the air. Do I have any idea? ah Then, of course, Saturday, we'll be back with Cash's Corner.
01:53:53
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And Nonsense Cool Nonsense. And then Sunday, Unnecessary Roughness. Kicking it all off, man. Lots of shows. Lots of things. Lots of stuff.
01:54:06
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And I'm not prepared for it.
01:54:13
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ah If you scroll up, Drew, Charlie's Facebook and Instagram is in the comments. um And his IMDB is in there as well. If you scroll up, basically, it's just just Google his name.
01:54:32
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And you'll find him. He's really's really, easy to find.
01:54:38
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He was an actor. Or he's an actor. So with that being said, thank you guys for watching. Thank you guys for tuning in. Hopefully you enjoy the new show, new shows. We did one last night. um And you enjoy all the other shows and all the other content. Make sure you ah like, share, and subscribe while he's apparently taking over. Yep.
01:54:58
Speaker
So. go get you a potty break, go get yourself to drink, go get you a little snacky snack and come right back here to the network and hang out with Wally, uh, Johnny and, uh, Wes. They're to be talking, uh, motor sports, uh, rough trucks and dirt racing and monster trucks and all that stuff.
01:55:18
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All that good fun hillbilly shit.
01:55:23
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I got to get my buttons. I was talking about Garth Brooks earlier. Here's a little, uh, AI cover of Garth Brooks. Uh, if he was heavy metal. And I will see you guys tomorrow night.
01:56:32
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I showed up in booms and ruined your black-tied affair.
01:56:41
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The last one to know, the last one to show I was the last one you thought you'd see there.
01:57:33
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I'm not big on social graces, think I slip on down to the oasis. Oh, I got friends in low places.
01:57:49
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Well, I guess I was wrong. I just don't belong. But then...
01:58:02
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Everything's alright. I'll just say goodnight and I'll show myself to the door. Hey, I didn't mean to cause a big scene.
01:58:18
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Just give me an hour and then, well, I'll be inside.
01:58:30
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I'm not big on social graces.
01:58:41
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Oh, I got friends.
01:59:19
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in low places where the whiskey drowns and the beer chases my blues away and i'll be okay yeah i'm not big on social graces thing i'll slip on down to the oasis oh
01:59:41
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I got friends in low places. Yeah, I got friends in low places. Where the whiskey and the beer chases. My boo's away.
01:59:52
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And I'll be okay. Yeah, I'm not big on social graces. Think I slip on down to the oasis. Oh, I got friends in low places.
02:00:33
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And I'll be okay