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Think Fresh: Greetings slime.
Ty Fresh: slopp ah what's up Eric what's up redheads Ty and Eric back in the booth wow so what
Think Fresh: My slippery slime.
Think Fresh: That's right, baby. Ty, your tan is holding up really nicely after Italy, I must say. it's We're deep in the depths of mud season and you've got some nice color going on still.
Think Fresh: Pretty jealous.
Ty Fresh: thank you thank you I appreciate that observation i know I've had no no D no vitamin D whatsoever for a month but I think I'm just like permanently toasted at this point.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm. Bros had no Dee and no Chaney, unfortunately. Yeah, we're permanently toasted.
Ty Fresh: Oh yeah. He, yeah. D Cheney is also permanently toasted. Hey, RIP to a real one.
Think Fresh: We, um this isn't, okay, we've linked since our last episode, and when we did, we watched a movie about open caskets. do you remember that? I barely remember, but it was a theme.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, we watched some, I don't know, would you call it even a horror movie? I don't know. scary. And there's so many open caskets in it. And open caskets only happen in movies.
Ty Fresh: I've never been to one. Have you?
Think Fresh: I've never been to an open casket funeral. I've never even seen a embalmed body. The closest thing to an embalmed body, i would say, is a Subway sandwich wrapped in saran wrap.
Think Fresh: That would be the closest thing I've ever seen to a preserved dead thing. um
Ty Fresh: Right. Or like Madame Tussauds.
Think Fresh: Yeah, true. church True, true, true.
Ty Fresh: But yeah, kind of disturbing.
Think Fresh: Yeah. Anyways, what were you going to say?
Ty Fresh: I was just going to say like, yeah, I don't think I would want to either like to walk into a funeral home, which is already a like just like terrible vibes. And then to be like, oh, yeah, the like,
Ty Fresh: ah so what do you say? Who we're celebrating? Remember? I don't know It's like open faced. It's kind of crazy to be like, oh, they did it open faced.
Think Fresh: Yeah, it's not birthday boy. It's like death day boy, you know? Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: Death Day boy. Yeah, yeah. It's a different vibe. So do you think Dick Cheney's funeral was open faced?
Think Fresh: um i don't know i don't know what state that guy was in in the last decade so um it's hard to say but you know what i keep thinking about keep thinking about how um last year we saw the decline of joe biden happening in real time and uh I was thinking about like usually that happens like very rapidly with old old blokes and like has anyone checked up on this guy like is he alive are they hiding his death because they were like too embarrassed to admit that he wouldn't have made it a year into his term you know.
Ty Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, dude. Every time there's a picture of Joe Biden leaving his house now, he's got aviator sunglasses on and two large men on either side carrying his body like week it's weekend at Biden's baby.
Think Fresh: Yeah, dude, 100%. And he's never, for some reason, he's never holding a newspaper with today's date on it. It's just not happening. So we can't fact check it.
Ty Fresh: We're cluing in though. The world's catching on. This guy is
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, he's with Chaney now.
Think Fresh: Yeah, dick in hand. um
Ty Fresh: Crazy.
Think Fresh: um Ty, we had... um This is a crazy podcast because we're talking about the cycle of life here, but we've had a ah new birth at Subway.
Think Fresh: And Subway themselves have teased it on the gram. I'm not sure what to really think of it, but it looks like... Well, okay, I'll just read the post.
Think Fresh: Subway Proper with ah Blue Check says, Dear friends and family, you are fully invited to the naming of our newest creation. Once just the bun in the oven, our little one came out to measuring 12 inches.
Think Fresh: We are excited for you to meet our perfectly chubby footlong. And then there's a photo of a sandwich wrapped in a like cheesecloth.
Think Fresh: Any idea what this could be? Why are they giving birth to a sandwich? It looks it just looks like a BMT.
Ty Fresh: Dude, this is so wild. Subway Instagram's crazy for this. I don't know what they're thinking. I'm trying to like get into the comment section right now with the ThinkFresh account so I can comment, welcome back Dick Cheney.
Ty Fresh: what
Think Fresh: The rebirth.
Ty Fresh: The Rebirth. ah Yeah, Subway Baby. Now, this is interesting. yeah This is just interesting for a few reasons, Eric. One is that this has been a popular Halloween costume for newborns for like decades to like wrap your baby.
Ty Fresh: in a sandwich wrapper from the way and call it a float long.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, classic Halloween costume.
Ty Fresh: so It is a classic one, but this seems to be something different. This isn't actually a baby they're birthing. Maybe they're birthing like, oh my God, you know what it probably is, Eric? Because it feels like they're foreshadowing a product launch here, like a new sandwich or something, right?
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: i don't think that's what it is. I think they finally are like figured out how to like make a new type of meat.
Think Fresh: Okay, so you're telling Subway is engineering meats now and they are like 3D printing some nuggets perhaps.
Think Fresh: They're mixing some pink goop together and hardening that into a kind of ham-like substance, a pink disc of sorts. What do you think is going on here?
Ty Fresh: ah Yeah, it's not like so they've been dabbling in bioengineered proteins for a long time, as we know.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: um And I'm just like Sherlocking things together right now because I'm scrolling to the top of the Subway account on Instagram and I see the word Terhamkin.
Ty Fresh: So is it possible Subway has and don't there's no context. It just says Terhamkin and it's trademarked. What if they like do what if they've like. Frankenstein together, they in Subway Labs, they fused together the DNA structure of all of the meats to make one super meat.
Ty Fresh: And they're about to birth it
Think Fresh: um okay okay this is interesting um yeah the holidays are coming up you know people are cooking up turkeys at home your family is probably doing like a big circular spherical tofu ball
Ty Fresh: Thank you.
Think Fresh: um
Ty Fresh: one giant butternut squash.
Think Fresh: totally um but the another one is the um turducken tie you've heard of this haven't you
Ty Fresh: Yes, I'm familiar with turducken culture. I think it's like absurd and doesn't, it takes up too much like space in the cultural sphere for what it is.
Ty Fresh: It's just like this dumb nerdy thing that meat lovers embrace.
Think Fresh: mm-hmm
Ty Fresh: And for some reason, everyone knows what it is.
Think Fresh: I don't know if I want to like claim that community as part of the meat lovers community, because I'm a very passionate, um, spokesperson for the meat lovers, but I would.
Ty Fresh: Well, you're a purest meat lover. You're just like pepperoni. you know You're a pepperoni man.
Think Fresh: Yeah. Chicken.
Ty Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Think Fresh: um No, but I think like there's like a weird subculture of meat eaters who are, i think it's like a derivative of epic mealtime. Like it's just whenever they introduced the like over baconification of food, like bacon wrapped everything, layers and layers of bacon.
Ty Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Think Fresh: How many like different types of meat can we fuse and hold hands in the oven together i don't think it makes any sense i I don't know why they would try to create like a new genre of like Frankenstein-y meats together it does just simply doesn't need to exist and this is clearly one of those attempts
Ty Fresh: Yeah, but like if you could pull it off, you'd have such a niche in the market because you can go to any fast food restaurant, have beef or have chicken, Eric, or maybe some have ham. But if only Subway has the Terhamkin, that's like groundbreaking.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: Could be good for business. I mean, like i but I agree, though, like it's this it it needs to stop like.
Think Fresh: It needs to stop.
Ty Fresh: There's
Think Fresh: Dude. Okay. Let's just break it down. Turkey, ham, and chicken. I can only assume those are the three animals that are present here. um Turkey and chicken are like 99% the same DNA.
Think Fresh: So there's no added value of including a turkey there. Turkey is only for like the aesthetics of Thanksgiving, you know?
Ty Fresh: Yeah.
Ty Fresh: Not impressed.
Think Fresh: It's reason why it exists.
Ty Fresh: Like...
Think Fresh: Yeah. So then we got ham. Ham is like what the alternative Thanksgiving crowd goes for. they're like we We're not a turkey household. We go with ham.
Ty Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Think Fresh: Maybe there's some Bavarian roots there, but why i have three? you know It could just be the Terham.
Ty Fresh: Cause I guess just like have two is not that impressive. You know, it it's just like Turkey ham, you can do that through like an act of layering, you know, um it's accessible to most households, but as soon as you have like three different types of protein in something that the, it's just like, it's, a it's Americana at that point, you know, it's excess, it's, it's silly, it's obscene.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Think Fresh: It's why the hell not.
Ty Fresh: Exactly. And that's what, that's why we hate it.
Think Fresh: Um...
Ty Fresh: Cause the only people that would like, they're like that. I could imagine this, that even asked why or like, or like how should we, they didn't ask, should we, they just said, could we, you know?
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: And then they did.
Think Fresh: Somebody high up at Subway was like, better ask for forgiveness than permission, you know? They won't let us make a terhamkin. They simply won't.
Ty Fresh: Yeah. And I'm sure everyone felt the same, like the Dr. Frankenstein in subway HQ is like, I don't think my creation will cause harm to the world as they all do before they unleash their monster.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Think Fresh: Totally. We just got to get the big CEOs to go on Joe Rogan and warn us that the biggest threat for humankind is not AI. It's actually meats and fusing them together for the holidays simply for novelty purposes.
Ty Fresh: ah Well, I maybe I'm wrong. Maybe that's not what they're birthing, but that's clearly something that's hitting the menu at some point. And it's possible that this is just like not any bio technology. This is literally like a sandwich with three different types of meat in it.
Ty Fresh: I would be disappointed at that point.
Think Fresh: I mean i feel like that exists already like what is the cold cuts isn't it not just ham and fucking turkey slices like are they slicing it differently or something what's going on here
Ty Fresh: Yeah.
Ty Fresh: Maybe they're serving, maybe these are just warm cuts, dude. They just toasted pre-toasted them.
Think Fresh: yo it's just the warm cut
Ty Fresh: It's like cold night and it requires a warm warm cut.
Think Fresh: Totally. Wow, what a disappointment. um
Ty Fresh: I know. and Now that we're talking it through even more, I'm starting to realize that that is probably the situation we're in.
Think Fresh: It's simply a hot sandwich.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, nothing goes better with a hot sandwich than a cold beer, my friend.
Think Fresh: Oh, that is awesome.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, happy Friday.
Think Fresh: That sounds beautiful. Happy Friday, mate. Nothing like meeting a baby with beer on the breath, right?
Ty Fresh: Meat baby, that's what they're making at Subway, a meat baby.
Think Fresh: I'd love to see it. um There's also two more things on the menu here, which I don't understand the whole like information architecture that's happening here because they also a festive chicken and a festive turkey.
Think Fresh: But if we really want to get nitpicky, where's the festive ham?
Ty Fresh: I was just going to say, do they run out of word count in the Instagram bio?
Think Fresh: Did they forget that one?
Think Fresh: It's possible. Yeah, what's going on with that?
Ty Fresh: Well, you know why, Eric? It's because during the holidays, we become the little piggies because we're fattening ourselves up with all this slop.
Think Fresh: Mm hmm. That is a nice thing about the holidays, though. I mean, it's an excuse to just gorge every day on ah food that you would never eat any other time of the year.
Think Fresh: Like who's eating turkey, bro? Like, honestly, you you're never eating it.
Ty Fresh: I'm in like a weird state, though, Eric, where we're going into the holidays now. And that's like, obviously, like, eat a bunch of trash and like gain a few pounds and maybe like just do things that you have to lie to your doctor about.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: And I'm like, I've been already.
Think Fresh: And your insurance.
Ty Fresh: yeah I've been already doing that for like two months.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: Like I've been carb loading. I've been crushing beers. I've been like just making like the fattest creations this morning.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: I like made it a delicious eggs Benedict and I just like put a bunch of brie on it. Like I just took a wheel of B brie, chopped it up, layered it in there. um I'm just like, I'm eating so fat right now.
Ty Fresh: I'm i fattening up for the winter, Eric. I don't think I can go another two months of this.
Think Fresh: Yeah.
Think Fresh: Yeah. I mean, you're on the right track. i think you've been practicing all year, actually, for this very moment. You've been working on your alcohol tolerance, ah you know, a la Halloween.
Think Fresh: And I'm still impressed he didn't throw up everywhere on Halloween. still have actually any night terrors from then.
Ty Fresh: I'm...
Ty Fresh: I can't believe you did, dude. they're they're You know what they're calling us right now? I'm Pookie and you're Pookie. That's what they're saying on the street. and Wallace and vomit.
Think Fresh: ah
Ty Fresh: That's our duo.
Think Fresh: Wow, you had that one cooked up. Just be happy that you're not having to hold my hair back. okay
Ty Fresh: Yeah, I guess there is a benefit to shaving your head is that you can handle the the Super Bowl yourself.
Think Fresh: the Totally.
Ty Fresh: One man show.
Think Fresh: Super bowl the porcelain ah throne, as they call it.
Ty Fresh: who
Think Fresh: Yeah, man. Oh, fuck. Even just thinking about that night, I get ah get shivers down my spine.
Ty Fresh: But you um reestablished a drinking routine since then, I'm sure.
Think Fresh: Oh, absolutely. The next day. You got to restart, you know?
Ty Fresh: Yeah, me too, dude.
Think Fresh: um
Ty Fresh: I think i had seven beers last night. Yeah.
Think Fresh: Yeah, I heard you had a night on the town last night. That was pretty fun.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, it was awesome.
Think Fresh: Yeah.
Ty Fresh: ben I've been hitting the town like every day this week because when, I don't know, when the sun sets so early, you just want to like get out on the prowl, you know? You're like this, hey god I got to roam the streets like a raccoon.
Think Fresh: so
Think Fresh: totally as you age you know you want to uh stay young and being young means being outside when it's dark and luckily for us ty in november the sun sets at 4 30 so like right now it's fucking dark outside so like we can we can hop outside go for hit three or four pubs and then be home and in bed by nine it's pretty awesome mm-hmm
Ty Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: Yeah.
Ty Fresh: It's the best part. Yeah, because like the old head in me wants to like light the diptyque candle, crack the spine of a a good book, you know,
Ty Fresh: like
Think Fresh: I wasn't sure where that was going. thought were going to crack the spine of an old thought or something.
Ty Fresh: you know, lower the lights, have a bath, but the, there, theres there is a youthfulness to just being like, it's pitch black out. It's 4 PM. I'm going to, I'm going to go have some fun. I'm going to go get into trouble.
Think Fresh: Totally. I agree. I've been doing some real midlife crisis type shit since we've last spoke to I've been going for run like four to five days a week.
Ty Fresh: Hmm.
Think Fresh: And because of the sunset, that means I'm running in pitch black darkness for like 45 minutes through the woods here in my current hometown.
Think Fresh: I'm running around with a headlamp. I'm going full ultra marathon dork mode with a headlamp and waving at the old dog walkers who are in the same position as me.
Ty Fresh: no
Ty Fresh: dude yeah that's some like dorky ad dad shit to do that like you're like one reflective vest away from just handing over your coolness badge
Think Fresh: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Think Fresh: yeah totally i mean as rick owen said ty i'm gonna butcher this but there's nothing cooler than being in a hot body
Ty Fresh: That's fair. What I don't tell you is what you have to do to get there.
Think Fresh: um that's true you gotta go full dork mode full send and then yeah you might get there eventually but one thing they don't tell you when they uh hand you your badge gun and headlamp is when You're running in the darkness.
Think Fresh: You see a lot of eyes looking back at you, reflecting. And it's not a really comfortable thing to see when you're sprinting in the woods. And then sometimes it's directly in front of you and you're just like hoping that it's a dog and then you get up to it and it's like a nice golden retriever who's just like wagging its tail.
Think Fresh: Like, oh, God, thank thank God.
Ty Fresh: so lucky
Think Fresh: It's not a fucking animal that wants to rip my throat out.
Ty Fresh: yeah i the worst part about being du like being in that situation is even though you're like probably a good runner you're like humans are just like the slowest animal you know like i don't know a badger could probably like chase you down and bite your calf
Think Fresh: Yeah. Yeah. 100% dude. A beaver could nip at my heel.
Ty Fresh: Imagine being taken down by a beaver. It's totally, it's highly likely.
Think Fresh: Honestly, if you're in Olympic Village, you're in Vancouver, there's a resident beaver that lives in the swamp there. Real nasty little guy in the bayou. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Ty Fresh: Yeah, dude. And there's not enough lumber. Yeah, I do. And there's not enough lumber left in that corridor to satisfy that beaver's hunger. So, you know, he's coming for just like some meaty calves.
Think Fresh: Oh, 100%, dude. If you ever like can't get a permit to chop down some trees, then just unleash a wild beaver and then it'll do their job for you. Yeah, that place is absolutely barren.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, nature finds a way, as they say. Hmm.
Think Fresh: 100% bro. um But yeah, like humans, like if I'm challenging a coyote to a half marathon distance, I might win. But the problem is they can catch me in like one second. So there's no, the distance at play here is not up to me. You know mean? I can't set the rules.
Think Fresh: The coyote is just in a hunter mode and it's going to track me down and, you know, take a bite out of my left cheek.
Ty Fresh: Hey, do you think that's why whenever we go to Subway, we're always like annoyed with how slow the sandwich artist is is because we're in hunter mode. So everything's moving faster for us.
Think Fresh: Yes. Great analogy.
Ty Fresh: We're the coyotes. Just kind of clicked for me right there.
Think Fresh: We are the yeah we're the apex predators once we walk in there. like you know We're in charge. We are pointing at what we want and we're getting it.
Ty Fresh: Mm hmm.
Think Fresh: Lettuce.
Ty Fresh: I have this like adrenaline flowing through me. That's why I act with such a commanding energy.
Think Fresh: Totally. And when you're hungry, it's like There's a reason why we get lethargic after you eat, right? It's like I've fulfilled my task today of hunting down some food.
Think Fresh: But once you're like, once you're hungry and you're like looking for the next bite, oh, dude, it's, ah you know, anyone's game.
Ty Fresh: Mm hmm. Dude, we're always just looking for our next bite.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: so yeah, that's life, man. Just one bite at a time.
Think Fresh: I 100% agree, bro. um Any other topics, bro? I have one question for you. Okay,
Ty Fresh: I had just had a random thought that came into my mind. So like, okay.
Think Fresh: please go first.
Ty Fresh: uh sometimes you're like eat your sandwich and then like you ever just like flip it and then start eating from the other side or do you always just go one end to the other like front and back
Think Fresh: I get where you're going with this, Ty. The sauce likes to pool at the bottom of the sandwich, right? Let's just, if we can agree on that, then we can answer the question.
Ty Fresh: mm-hmm mm-hmm
Think Fresh: um If I'm eating slowly and more sauce is ending up at the bottom of the sandwich, I will pull a burger and flip that thing around and start hitting it from the back.
Think Fresh: Yeah.
Ty Fresh: you give it the 180 I do it too and it's like kind of a freaky move to like do it prematurely to like to pre-bite if you will yeah um
Think Fresh: Yeah.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm. Totally.
Think Fresh: It makes sense. Because, like, yeah, you got to you gotta to do some sauce management at that point. Like, the case is a lot easier to make for a burger because, like, the sauce would be sliding around, the patties inching over, your onion, you know, it's poking out the back.
Ty Fresh: mm-hmm
Think Fresh: You got to make sure that thing doesn't fall out.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, dude. Yeah, you got like the tomato slices like so far out. It's like tickling your palm. You know, you could feel like the tomato rubbing against your hand.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: Get back in there.
Think Fresh: I'm a little bit ashamed to admit it, but I have just pushed it back in with my palm before.
Ty Fresh: That's okay. I think you it's a handheld. You should be using every part of the hand.
Think Fresh: And every part of the burger can get touched.
Ty Fresh: Exactly. Dude, you can stick your hand right in there if you want. Who cares? There are no rules.
Think Fresh: Yeah, totally. There's no difference between touching the bun and touching the burger bun or the burger patty.
Ty Fresh: so
Ty Fresh: Yeah, my hands are dirty either way. It doesn't matter if I'm touching.
Think Fresh: yeah I did not wash my hands.
Ty Fresh: Like I can stick all, I can stick my whole fist in there. It doesn't matter. Like just rub it around.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: death Get it like, like theoretically when you get a hamburger, what you, the first thing you should do pick it up with both hands and just like squeeze it and like clump it into like a really thick ball so that it holds together.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: And then you start eating it like it's a, you're eating a snowball, you know?
Think Fresh: yeah i mean there's probably like a uh like i write a guide book on how to eat a burger but i think the press down is typically something that is done um there's like a press down slice cut in half combo you can do as well i think that's for bitches personally um but yeah you
Ty Fresh: well
Ty Fresh: The press down, you mean like you're smash-burgering yourself, you know?
Think Fresh: Yeah. You're not necessarily smashing the patty, but you are kind of from bun to bun, from tip to tail, you're kind of compressing it down.
Ty Fresh: bun smashing. But the thing is, like what when you do that, you're creating a lot of...
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: like um you're increasing the circumference of the burger, you're creating a lot of like potential for stuff to slip out. So what I always think here and is I always think like, what would Joey Chestnut do?
Ty Fresh: And I'm pretty sure Joey Chestnut would just like literally compact it into just a super tight ball, you know? And that I'm telling you, that is the move here. So I think in the case of subway, we don't have the same the um dimensions of the footlong make that a little bit more challenging.
Ty Fresh: So you're like kind of hitting it from the front. would Would you call it eating it backwards if you turned it 180? Are you like eating it backwards now? I don't even know. Is that backwards? Yeah.
Think Fresh: It is backwards if it's sliced in half and you're eating one half at a time. Because presumably you're starting with the cross-section part, right?
Ty Fresh: Right. Yo, but what if you're left-handed? Then are you starting backwards? and you're Wait, never mind. Never mind. Okay.
Think Fresh: fucking dude no um joey chestnut do you think he is it has an eating disorder or is it like if you're getting paid then all bets are off like you know saying like if you're paid to uh i don't know drink yourself silly for to test a beer you're not an alcoholic you're just you're doing your job
Ty Fresh: i don't know.
Ty Fresh: You're right. As soon as there's a paycheck on the other side, you're a professional. this guy has
Think Fresh: yeah
Ty Fresh: If that was me eating 47 hot dogs in half an hour, i think my i my friends would be concerned. My family would do a wellness check on me.
Ty Fresh: They're like, Ty, that's too many dogs.
Think Fresh: I know, yeah, but ah not until you show them the ah the wealth simple you know direct deposit and you go, nah, babe, I'm just trying to put some more food on the table.
Ty Fresh: yeah Surely there's enough, but but it is kind of cool.
Think Fresh: There's more than enough food on the table. We don't need any more. You've eaten it at all.
Ty Fresh: yeah there There was a lot until you ate it. There is something really ah aspirational about being in a position where you're paid to consume something.
Ty Fresh: Because most people are paid to create something, whether you're the barista at Starbucks or the Wall Street employee who's, well, they're kind of consuming, they're leeching know leaching on, I don't know how hedge funds work.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: most Most jobs, they have to create a thing. You know you create a part of the factory.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: You create an idea because you're a white-collar guy.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: But not chestnut. he only and He's a black hole.
Think Fresh: No, totally. um I guess like you got the capitalist society we live in. You got to create something that someone else can buy. Right. So that makes me realize Chestnut is an entertainer.
Think Fresh: We're paying to watch this guy take down 57 dogs and not want throw up after, you know, maybe he does. We don't know.
Ty Fresh: Cool. Huh, you're right. He's a performer. He's getting paid to
Think Fresh: hmm.
Ty Fresh: He's no different than A24 or OnlyFans.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm. He's the white man's LeBron James.
Ty Fresh: He is. Top of his game.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: King Nut, we call him.
Think Fresh: Longevity.
Think Fresh: Say it with your chest, nott
Ty Fresh: I'm actually drinking a chestnut ale beer, and I don't know if that's how we got to this conversation or not. It's kind of weird. um It must have been. We must have like subconsciously picked up on that.
Ty Fresh: I don't know how else we would have got here.
Think Fresh: I didn't. I didn't see that it was that, but it must be that it's swashing around in your belly that you decided to talk about it.
Ty Fresh: hmm. I've and I've embodied the chestnut literally.
Think Fresh: I have some Sapporo.
Ty Fresh: you were You had a question for me, Eric, or you had something you needed to get off your chestnut.
Think Fresh: I did, but your topic was better, to be honest. I just wanted to talk about the... recent Vogue article that posed the question to its audience, is it embarrassing to have a boyfriend in 2025?
Think Fresh: Have you read this?
Ty Fresh: man. Yes, I've been hearing all about this. all All the girlies online are talking about this. And i I don't really know what to think. I'm taken aback by it. I'm shocked.
Think Fresh: Well, luckily for you, Ty, you just missed it because you you're no longer a boyfriend. You're a husband. In fact, deep down, you always have Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, you're right. I'm booed up permanently. And I feel like though there's still like a lot of um boyfriend in me, you know? And so I can empathize with what's happening with my fellow ah dating soldiers.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm. Totally. Yeah. This is a, not a good time for single men. you know what I mean? Unless you're a, unless you're a little hottie or something, but normal men emphasis on little.
Ty Fresh: Like me.
Ty Fresh: Thanks.
Think Fresh: Um, but yeah, like, i don't know if i I think I see where this is kind of going. Like, The anti anti-boy rhetoric is peaking, Ty.
Ty Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Think Fresh: And can't say that there's a strong argument against to be honest.
Ty Fresh: Well, this is what the problem is, Eric, is ah they're right. I don't really know how. like Yeah, like boys are dumb. And boys have sucked for so many years. And they're only sucking more every year.
Ty Fresh: And then they keep coming boys keep coming inventing more reasons to be bad.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: like you know They're like, oh, we got we got Fortnite now. There's another...
Think Fresh: Yeah. More and more men in their 30s that I know in my circle are gaming. And that's a red flag, to be honest.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, they're pulling back. They're retreating.
Think Fresh: I think um it's kind of funny how it this coincides timeline wise with... um returning to traditional roles in the household.
Think Fresh: and And think women are realizing that they do everything anyway. So why have just one guy around there? You know, got one guy around the house when you can play the field.
Think Fresh: You're doing all the work anyway.
Ty Fresh: Yeah. And it's like, you gotta, to you you gotta to have a guy for everything, right? You know a guy for dinner, guy for trips, guy for this guy for that. Like, there's no reason not to like, I don't know, build a program out of it.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: If you have the means to, yeah.
Think Fresh: Build a roster. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so finding a wife is a lot like getting a girl pregnant now. You got to be one of the swimmers who are going to swim the hardest, and only one of you are going to get chose, you know?
Ty Fresh: who And you got to like best of your best chances are if you do it really young by accident.
Think Fresh: yeah Exactly. You got to get in there super early. Yeah. It's hilarious.
Ty Fresh: before they catch on.
Think Fresh: Yeah. And more and more men are podcasting. So that's super embarrassing too. um
Ty Fresh: Well, it's kind of part...
Think Fresh: You're listening to Think Fresh.
Ty Fresh: Shout out to all our male listeners.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: Podcasting is like one of the acts of retreat that men are doing. and They're gaming. They're podcasting. They're making protein shakes. They're doing all these things that they they're like...
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: chronically online you know they're like they're doing their own research which they should have never done you know they're just they're doing all these other these things that are just even they're like they're low-balling on grail that's where they are right now but everything i mentioned here they're doing it for the boys it's all for the boys
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Think Fresh: Yeah, fair enough. But I think both genders are guilty of this. They just do things that are pleasing people of the same gender. You know what saying? Like, the clothes I mean you by, we're not impressing any girls with that. We're impressing the fellow, we're the were the impressing the mates. You know, it's like, oh, you got that new crow marks on. Shit, bro.
Think Fresh: You know i mean?
Ty Fresh: yeah that's true
Think Fresh: Like, it's not it's not for anyone but the boys. And same with chicks. Like, You think guys are impressed that they're reading the newest novel at the park? Don't give a fuck.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, the performative male is performing for who? The other males.
Think Fresh: Totally. It's a competition out there.
Ty Fresh: He doesn't even know that.
Think Fresh: Yeah.
Think Fresh: It's true. It's true.
Ty Fresh: I guess actually the performative male is the exception here. I take this back. That is like, it is such an iconic like motif because Eric, it is breaking away from the men's retreat. It's like while the army retreats, the lone soldier steps up and like triples down on like peacocking to all of womankind.
Ty Fresh: It's like, like they're like like, oh, if I'm not going to follow the army, I'm going to like over index so hard. And like there's no in between.
Ty Fresh: Men are radicalized.
Think Fresh: Yeah. Totally, dude. Pick a side. um Dude, peacocking is so funny because like if you really like nature is just the same for everything, right?
Ty Fresh: Pick a side.
Think Fresh: It's like humans are kind of like those birds that do like the funny little dance to like attract the chick. It's like, have you ever seen like dudes by themselves dancing and like at a bar or club? It's like they're doing the exact same thing.
Think Fresh: They're just trying to like look cool for a for some chick to like go talk to them. It's so funny.
Ty Fresh: It's crazy.
Think Fresh: why Why do people do that?
Ty Fresh: Yeah, dude. and it's But it sometimes works. It's like if you wiggle the right way, it works.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: But if you wiggle the wrong way, it really doesn't.
Think Fresh: Mm hmm. It's an art form, not a science, unfortunately, for most men.
Ty Fresh: Unfortunately. And at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter how you wiggle if you follow Rick Owens' school of thought.
Think Fresh: Damn.
Ty Fresh: Just, like, have a hot bod.
Think Fresh: Mm hmm.
Think Fresh: That is the best way to make it through life, I think.
Ty Fresh: So, to circle this back to an act of rebirth, the Terhamkin should... It better look real good, is what I'm saying.
Ty Fresh: If we're going to be eating that up, it better be tasty.
Think Fresh: Better look tasty and yummy. Totally. And if you want to be attractive, stop eating at Subway. That's the best advice I could give you.
Ty Fresh: You're probably right. It's not a good look to even just be nearby, but let alone.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: Yeah, there's so many reasons.
Think Fresh: Mm-hmm.
Ty Fresh: If you want to get into it, just go back. Three hundred four hundred and sixty nine episodes.
Think Fresh: Perfect. Okay. Well, that's all I had to talk about, Ty. Anything else you want to cover or should we get this weekend started? Oh,
Ty Fresh: Yeah, dude, I got like 20 more beers to drink, so I really got to get going.
Think Fresh: fuck. Okay. Me too. Think fresh, everybody.
Ty Fresh: Ciao.

