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473 — Confit Fetish
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Ty & Eric reconvene in 2026 to discuss what's appetizing and what's chopped this year. They also chat about buying overpriced cattle meat, eradicating lactose-intolerance, unlocking MP privileges at restaurants, forgiving Tiger Woods, novelty charcuterie hacks, eating your vitamins a-la-carte, and trying to order redacted menu items.
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Transcript
New Year & Podcast Return
00:00:51
Ty Fresh
Happy New Year. That's right. Ty and Eric are back in the booth. It's the big two six and we are steamrolling this January, aren't we, Eric? Are we you rolling through it? That's right.
00:01:05
Ty Fresh
Chug love. This week, I mean, it's already, we're already like coming to the close of the first real business week of 2026, Ty. It is Thursday, january seventh Is that right? Or 8th? 8th. We're pre-recording for tomorrow's episode. But the numbers are looking good. The numbers, yeah, quarterly earnings are up for Think Fresh Incorporated. So...
00:01:28
Ty Fresh
Yeah, happy to start the new year. Ty, did you do any vision boarding this year yet? Oh, we got moods. We got moods on boards. We got we got cheese on boards. We're bored. We're so bored. I heard of a like very kind of niche and nuanced way to slice cheese for
Creative Cooking Techniques
00:01:45
Ty Fresh
a charcuterie board. Want to hear about it?
00:01:46
Ty Fresh
Is this like a fart joke? No. Okay, what is it? um Rather than like doing slices, like slices are so 2025. Yeah, we're not slicing in two sticks. Like you're not putting the knife down on the big parm, you know? what you want to do instead is you want to stab it and kind of just like...
00:02:04
Ty Fresh
carve out pieces and let the cheese kind of decide where it wants to crumble and break. So you get these weird obscure shapes and kind of cheese formations on the board rather than perfect clean slices. I like that. More natty. It's the equivalent. It's like skin contact fromage. Totally. You're letting the cheese kind of guide you. And like, say you're doing like a spreadable.
00:02:26
Ty Fresh
Why not just kind of smear it? You know, you don't need to have a nice perfect vessel for it. Of course. It's all smearables right now. I like this, Eric, because when it's a perfect slice, not only does it make the cheese feel more synthetic when it's a crafted object and it should be treated as such.
00:02:41
Ty Fresh
It's also sometimes it's the consistency of the size is unwelcome. I like a big chunk. Then I just want a little bite to finish it off. Totally. Not everyone's a big mouthful kind of person when it comes to cheese, you know? And I'm a known tiny mouth and I feel a bit persecuted around some charcuteries when those chunks are whopping, especially with the brie.
00:03:02
Ty Fresh
no' Don't pre-slice my brie. It's always too big of a chunk. Although I've heard that French people, when they have cheese boards, they like just take huge bites, like way more than you would ever expect.
00:03:14
Ty Fresh
And I've been kind of trying to do that more recently when I go to cheese parties, like our mutual friend. I'll just grab a whole bite of brie. And it's like you fill your mouth with brie. And it's just like, I feel so French right now. It's it's kind of nice. Why not? Right? Like you have you free will, brie will, and and nothing else really matters,
Sponsorship & Celebrity Comparisons
00:03:33
Ty Fresh
right? so Exactly. When in Paris, right? Yeah. If you have a little bite, watch your weight. Or you just eat gobble up the whole wheel like a rat. Does it really matter in the end? i don't think it matters. i don't think it matters. So live your life.
00:03:47
Ty Fresh
just bite it right out of it that's only 12 inches of sandwich is back in the big two six eric i think foot lungs are back on the table six inches are out no one eating small these days fill that belly yeah fuck it fuck it this this is a year of surplus dude i am so excited to for what types of abundance finds me oh fuck i hope so i hope we find some monetary abundance um with better help yeah it's premier sponsor our name sponsor Yeah, we're we have given them ample opportunity to like disengage with us, cancel us. We've canceled ourselves. But no, there are ride or die. It's like better health and think fresh is like Tiger and Nike. Totally.
00:04:31
Ty Fresh
Totally, dude. All throughout all the scandals.
Tiger Woods & Media Forgiveness
00:04:34
Ty Fresh
I mean, they're all throughout all the snow bunnies that have come and gone. the only thing consistent is better. Tiger Woods, man.
00:04:44
Ty Fresh
some tiger woods man It's so great because like, that's what you want from your therapist. You want them to stick around even when you're at your lowest. Do you think, um, history is, has been kind to tiger?
00:04:58
Ty Fresh
I think history has because, uh, to forget is to forgive. And I feel like we've largely forgotten his era. Yeah. I'm going to out and say, i think he was like,
00:05:12
Ty Fresh
Like, ah I think we were a little hard on the guy. I think there's like guys out there that have done way worse and got away with it. Tiger. So what? He slept around a little bit. At least it wasn't with children. Yeah. We've come so far. We've strayed so far from what is normal and good in the world. It's like, oh, wow. They were all adult women consenting. Oh, maybe it's fine.
00:05:31
Ty Fresh
Mm hmm. Yeah, maybe it was never problem at all. Like, Bro just knew what he liked,
Health Habits & Humor
00:05:36
Ty Fresh
you know? And it's crazy because he was being taken down in the same era as Jared Fogle. Like, there's ah probably a newspaper front page from some time back in then, and both their faces are on it.
00:05:47
Ty Fresh
Or Tiger's like front page Vogel's like back cover. He loves the back. Yeah. He's on page 17 and under. yeah' Nice. So yeah, I think we were a little bit too hard on the guy. And yeah I wish we would go back and just, I don't know, give him a hug. know If I had a time machine, I'd go back a decade and a half and give Tiger Woods a hug.
00:06:14
Ty Fresh
We all need a hug. you know yeah um You sound like you need a hug, Ty. You sound like you have some residual sickness from the last time we recorded. Did you have a crazy holiday or what? Yeah. Okay. So I haven't got better since then. I have like this residual cold, like an old man.
00:06:30
Ty Fresh
If you make me laugh too hard, I'll start coughing. I feel like the elderly. Is this how they live where they're just, their lungs are always wet and they're a little nasally and they have to carry around tissues. Yeah.
00:06:41
Ty Fresh
i think that's why they always carry around tissues. Grandma's always got the pack of Kleenex, you know, ready to go. Yeah, Werther's in left pocket, Kleenex in right. But what happened, Eric, is I got sick. I didn't take care of myself. I medicated with double IPAs and no sleep for like three weeks. Yeah.
00:07:00
Ty Fresh
Took me all the way into the New Year's. yeah because you were sick before the holiday season, like since before Santa Claus plopped his big big guy down the chimney. Yeah, his big gap went down there. um But what happened was I started to get better.
00:07:17
Ty Fresh
I enter a very social season and where I'm dabbing up people left, right and center. I'm dropping pins all over holiday parties, family functions, literally sitting on Santa's lap, sneezing in his mouth. and And ah what happens, Eric, is I think I just kept catching new colds.
00:07:36
Ty Fresh
And now my body's in this perpetual state of worn out immune system, which is never recover. You can. And it's exponential because of my IPA consumption. Yeah, it's kind of like the homeless population of Vancouver. It's like, it's like how can I get a job if I can't shower?
00:07:52
Ty Fresh
But how can I afford a shower if I can't get a job? You know, it's like, I'm just stuck in this endless cycle. Yeah, dude, it's so hard to get a job if you don't have a job. And that's kind of like getting healthy. It's like, you can't get healthy if you're not healthy. When the entry level position requires five years of experience. Like, what do you do, bro? Yeah, what are you supposed to do? Yeah, well' sandwich university. I've been just i'm shoveling handfuls of pills in my mouth every single day. That's how I've been staying healthy this holiday season. Right, because you're a vitamin junkie. I'm a big vitamin junkie. I know you got the multi. I know you're cracking the zinc. You're cracked with the zinc. Wait, what was the first? Oh, the multi? No, I do i go all a la carte, actually. Oh, really? You're picking and choosing. you got the magnesium, the zinc, the vitamin D I know you like. That's right. I don't like to go chef's choice on the vitamin selection. Good for you. Good for you. That's how everyone should do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:41
Ty Fresh
we're leaving the fucking menu you know We're living in this world now where you can like customize any aspect of your life. And people are like popping the multi. It's crazy. Totally. Crazy talk. I have this bottle of like unopened multivitamins from like five years ago because Amazon shipped it to my house by accident. I just opened the random box and vitamins in it. I was like, didn't order this. I don't want these. Yeah. So I just have random vitamins that I still haven't touched. But I do go for the...
00:09:07
Ty Fresh
magnesium yeah three of them bitches three fucking pills of magnesium well you have to with your lifestyle i wouldn't i wouldn't take any less if i were you no true this is going to be actually a think fresh exclusive eric dropping the supplemental list right now um this is a big moment we should put this behind a paywall i know i should totally charge brian johnson would um brian johnson would bj would actually put it up for free on his website But anyways, magnesium triple ah dose, omega-3 single dose, yeah vitamin d double dose nice or triple. I went triple actually over the holidays. Smart move. I haven't upped my dosage since cloud season started. Yeah, since mud Vancouver season.
00:09:49
Ty Fresh
Some calcium because I've been running and my th thought process is like I'm doing damage to my joints I could better get some calcium in there, right? It's a joint effort. It is and What else?
00:10:00
Ty Fresh
Oh a pro daily probiotic some creatine 10 grams
Food Trends & Dining Experiences
00:10:04
Ty Fresh
per day. Oh, yeah um and absolutely avoiding Subway at all costs. I think that is actually a big one as well.
00:10:13
Ty Fresh
It's changed my life, honestly. We haven't been recording as much, and as a byproduct of that, I haven't been consuming as much. It's kind of funny how they're kind of intertwined. Totally. This really should be a podcast about making money on the stock market. Yeah, I know. But you know what, though? We've both abstained from the sauce.
00:10:30
Ty Fresh
We're off the sauce, but you're like noticeably worse. We're soft. Make that make sense. Yeah. Turns out what one man's poison is another man's healing. Is there a is that guy shirtless?
00:10:44
Ty Fresh
No, he's not. Okay. We're like recording outside a random municipality. ah like residential neighborhood we can see in all the windows yeah some cute homes here actually yeah um well yours is pretty well refined harrick i'm popping i got uh iron supplement ov because creek yogurt ain't enough to keep this body going um uh double dose on the d Double dose on the sea this time of year. oh ah What else do I got cracked right now? You know, when you got like a bottle open, it's like, you got oh I got like a few blind, but they're corked. you now by the gloss yeah what's why the That might be it though. I don't think I have anything else on the go. I mean, that's a pretty good start, I would say. Like, I think vitamin D, especially when the sun is going down at 330, you know, it's a real game changer. I think my mood has been, like, really good this holiday, considering how much I hate the holidays. Yeah, told totally. yeah Oh, I'm rocking a probiotic right now. I think that's kind of yeah yeah it's kind of That's just, like, fun. that's not I don't need it. I just think it's fun. That's for pleasure. it's Yeah, pleasure you're only. um
00:11:51
Ty Fresh
Dude, yeah. I've been taking the Pro-B prior to trips. like Getting my gut health ramped all the way up before i go to like a foreign country where I'm eating just slop. You be at the top of your game, dude. Probiotics, pro-attitude, always say. Totally.
00:12:10
Ty Fresh
Oh, fuck. So, yeah, I think that's the key. And I think if we were to go to Subway... I think we'd be well equipped right now. I think so too. Chomp down on the full on. Yeah. All that resilience training would pay off for sure. No tummy ache here. Absolutely.
00:12:25
Ty Fresh
um So in the big two, six tie, maybe we should talk about like, sub so assuming Subway is in for the big two, six. I think so. I hope so. It's good. Better for business. Better for us. Yeah, for sure. It's good for our listener base. um What ingredients are in, what's out, what sandwich types are in. Can we just rip through like some ideas here?
00:12:46
Ty Fresh
I think all ball shaped ingredients are back on the menu. Not just meat balls, but like cucumber slices, tomato slices, cucumber balls, like cucumber balls. kind of Sometimes it's a wad, like the scoop of the tuna.
00:13:00
Ty Fresh
i I think it's the year of the ball-shaped food. Oh, great. And I'll tell you why, Eric. Okay. There's this very popular liquor that's like shaped like a Christmas ornament. It's like a ball.
00:13:12
Ty Fresh
A buzz ball? Yeah, that thing. Buzz balls. It's all the buzz right now. And I think we're going to see that shape translate to more food. I love that, dude. Buzz balls are great. I love novelty-shaped balls.
00:13:26
Ty Fresh
Oh, fuck. what you So there's one thing that I think is in... what ah What else we got here? What else we got here? Well, ty I'm all about um biohacking, as you can see. Of course. And one thing I'm passionate about is getting all my lactose and intolerant homies back on the lactose. Yeah, bring them back. Like, we've strayed so far from the hospital.
00:13:45
Ty Fresh
I know. we've just We're just fucking wasting time on on Earth where can't eat cheese, you know? Do you think one there was a single person on Earth before, like, the year 1900 that was lactose intolerant? I don't think so. I think this is net new, and it's because people are now...
00:14:00
Ty Fresh
they're now like living such a comfortable life that they're aware of what's happening in their stomach. Totally. Yeah. They're just thinking like, oh my tummy hurt. But like it's because you are staying away from milk and then all of a sudden you're having like a bit of cheese. All you got do is microdose and and just kind of ramp up your milk intake.
00:14:19
Ty Fresh
Yeah. And eventually you'll be you'll be good to go. You'll be back on the cheese. So I think double cheese is in. Double cheese is in. And I think microdosing all pseudo allergens as well. Yeah, yeah sure. yeah why not just have have a little peanut butter you're a good boy yeah good boy yeah i i agree with double dose of cheese like i've been hitting the dairy so hard and it's not just christmas i've just built new routines around turning cheese into an entree and i think it's coming off of that euro trip and the last year where that's they'd love doing that um so that cheese bar at your wedding i still think about it to this day oh sometimes i just pull up the photos i'm not i'm i'm not flicking up the bride i'm flicking up the ah mozzarella to Bufala.
00:15:02
Ty Fresh
Yeah. Just having a scroll. It's like all my friends are having fun at the cheese bar, but I'm sitting here with my stupid wife. I wish I was slamming dairy. Oh, um Yeah, dude. That was so good. Risotto was good. at that There was a good risotto that night, too. That was extra cheesy. I've been thinking a lot about. Yeah, it was a parmigiano, raggiano, risotto. And truffle, or And truffle. Yeah. And so I've actually been thinking a lot about truffle risotto.
00:15:28
Ty Fresh
since we ate that meal in Italy. nice And so I went to Hawksworth. This is a great segue. I went to Hawksworth a couple weeks ago in downtown and they had a truffle risotto on. yeah And it just i actually took i had to take notes on this because it was such a funny experience. um When I was sitting down at the table, me and Bay were assessing the menu. The server was kind of just being a little bit aloof with us, not really paying too much attention. She tells us the specials. She mentions the truffle risotto.
00:15:56
Ty Fresh
Um, and then walks away. We talk about it We're like, yeah, we got to get that. Of course. Sounds yeah delicious. Yeah. Uh, she comes back. We lay out all that menu. We're dropping so much stuff like oysters, this, that, the bing, bang. And then we finish it with and the truffle risotto. And at that moment, this like Grinch, like smile comes over her face and she's like, excellent choice. wow And then she starts treating me completely different for the rest of the meal.
00:16:20
Ty Fresh
Interesting. It was so weird. She immediately asked like, are you celebrating any? There's no you're ordering this on a Wednesday. yeah um And then she walks away, puts the order in. And for the rest of the meal, she's like winking at us every time she talks to us and stuff. And then it clicked for me. It's like, oh, no, I didn't ask the price. Yeah, it was market price.
00:16:43
Ty Fresh
And it's on black truffle. It's couple, I don't know how much it was on. She never said the price. knew it was market. So it's like, oh no, she's treating us special because we're bawling out. So I'm racking my brains. Like how much are we going spend on this truffle risotto? The whole meal. I'm freaking out. yeah Every wink. She brings a free dessert at the end of the meal to us. It's like,
00:17:04
Ty Fresh
What is going on here? u-o this is i would be sweating if I i was all this happened. I'm like ranking back all of these like most expensive meals I've ever eaten. And I was thinking head like kind of like it's kind of like when you're ah you're on a first date and then your date starts saying Jeff Bezos words like appetizer. yeah Girl, you think we got appetizer budget? What do you mean extra dipping sauce? Hell no.
00:17:27
Ty Fresh
No, we don't get it. You can't add a protein. No. Just kidding. You don't need that. oh Yeah, it was kind of whack. um I remember you and i once infamously ate an $80 truffle omelet at Kisitanto. So that was my my benchmark. I was like, it's got to be $80 minimum here. This is an entree. This isn't just an omelet. And that thing had like three shavings of truffle on it. Yeah. like it was not that ah ah that much. It wasn't that much. Yeah. So a whole risotto saturated in there.
00:17:56
Ty Fresh
Anyways, Bill finally shows up. I look at it. 36 bucks.
Menu Presentation & Exclusivity
00:18:01
Ty Fresh
It was pretty good. so but So clearly this was not a quantity play. Like ah they didn't didn't see you and think like, oh, this guy's rich. They thought this guy has good taste.
00:18:13
Ty Fresh
I guess so. I that is way more valuable, especially in the eyes of a stranger. I just wish she told me up front because it kind of threw the whole meal. Like I would have loved to hear like, I'm going to treat you differently because I think you're a tastemaker.
00:18:26
Ty Fresh
Every menu should have like a little star beside the things that are just going to elevate your service. Yeah, they should be. you know, like if you order the, i don't know, the fucking special wine, like it doesn't have to be the most expensive one. But it's like if you're ordering that, then you know what you're talking about. And I respect you more.
00:18:43
Ty Fresh
Well, I guess ah only bad restaurants actually do this. You go to like a bad restaurant and they've like shrunk their logo down to like eight by eight pixels. It's bit mapped. It's on the menu as like in line with the typeface next to the like the green V. Oh, no. You know the green V? Yeah. It's like every single like gentrified Asian noodle lunch place.
00:19:04
Ty Fresh
Oh, yeah. They're putting a star next to it. They got a little chili flake next to it. A little chili flake. You know, they caught it all. So I mean, like they're doing it and I actually don't like that. I don't want want to know what I don't want it be so readily available when the good shit is. i think you need to like ah rub some shoulders with your server, you know, introduce yourself, give them a handshake for a handshake. I mean, a real restaurant, you can order anything and have a great meal. Like maybe they recommend you to get something else to compliment it or whatever, but everything should be good enough that it doesn't need a star next to it. Because the star really just says like, get this one, dumbass. Yeah, you idiot. We have this other stuff here just to like make the menu look full. Yeah, exactly. It's the subway effect. You know, there's no stars next to the pickles. But but they have the big fucking like front page. yeah The instruction manual up there. Yeah. But you know what, though? It's like no matter what combo you make, it's going to be good.
00:20:01
Ty Fresh
Yeah. And that's just like how all restaurants should be. I guess so. All sandwiches there taste the same if you think about it. Yeah, that's true. You're making one sandwich. Yeah. 40 million different ways. Yeah, exactly.
00:20:12
Ty Fresh
um I also had a really special meal. Oh, tell me more. I went to Think Fresh favorite restaurant, Savio Volpe. Excellent choice.
00:20:22
Ty Fresh
um Yeah, decided to splash out with my Amex credit. I was using my Amex credit too. Hell yeah. End of the year, you got wrap it. Oh because you went to Hawksworth. Hawksworth, yeah. that That one's been on my list as like an option. It's one of those places where you never...
00:20:37
Ty Fresh
really want to go for some reason. Yeah, i don't want to go there. I know, but this like this is a good use case. I know, it's it's perfect. um But anyways, Savio was on that Amex dining list as well. um And we said, like it's fun to go into a meal knowing that you have to spend at least $200. I love that. It changes the vibe of the meal. I was like, fuck it, we're getting champagne today. Yeah, why not? um So we had some champagne, some red wine, obviously. And then we said, you know what?
00:21:04
Ty Fresh
We're getting the fucking ribeye. oh We got a 37 ounce of ribeye, bro. Baby, market price. yeah Oh, yeah. um It's from PEI. They shipped it that far. They shipped it across the club, man. But yeah, that thing um nothing was by itself.
00:21:23
Ty Fresh
no yeah bought a two hundred and seventy five dollars steak for dinner Yeah. And we had other things we didn't know know it was to be that much. Jesus Christ. because Because on the menu, it just said 650 per ounce.
00:21:34
Ty Fresh
And then we're like, oh, that seems like reasonable. And then I didn't realize it was a 37 ounce cut. two Every single bite of that is someone's minimum wage. Like hourly rate, hourly rate, bite for bite. No kidding.
00:21:47
Ty Fresh
So yeah, that was an unreal purchase. I felt kind of guilty about it. That's good. That's why we do it is for this podcast. It was last year. Who cares? this is We're in the big two six yeah a year ago.
00:21:58
Ty Fresh
But anyways, yeah, we still have not financially recovered. Can we put that one on Klarna? Yeah. When the Klarna man comes and repose the steak. Yeah, he's taking the bites back. Oh, fuck. Well, I really do hope that the first quarter of 26 is good to you so that you, uh, fuck up. So repay the, uh, the Savio doesn't send any goons to your door. I'm to have to liquidate some shares to get that off the, off the but yeah balance those books, Eric. Yeah.
00:22:29
Ty Fresh
But, we also got some, wait, was it worth the money? Uh, I still believe it's the best steak in Vancouver, like easily. um i don't know if it's worth that amount.
00:22:43
Ty Fresh
ah um Hard to say, dude. hard I've had maybe one other steak that was like north of 100 bucks, to be honest with you. Everything is like relative, right? It's like the $7 water bottle at the airport.
00:22:56
Ty Fresh
It doesn't taste any better. It's just time and place. Totally. um I mean, nothing's better than a glass water when you're thirsty. you know I mean? That's true. That's priceless. That is priceless. I'd pay any amount.
00:23:10
Ty Fresh
but yeah, dude, great steak. It comes with a garlic confit. I'm familiar with confit. Yeah. you're You're a big feet guy. have a bit of a confit fetish, you could say. Oh, that's good shit.
00:23:27
Ty Fresh
fuck That's the fuck of the title right right there. That's the one, yeah. um ah shit That's great, yeah. You got it you gotta to dress it up a little bit. You can't just put a slab of meat on the plate and charge $30 for that. yeah But I did kind of run through all the other things on the menu when I was ordering. And then the very last second, I was like, and we're getting the ribeye.
00:23:46
Ty Fresh
And she's like, oh, let me actually. She fucking runs to the kitchen. I didn't make sure we still have it. Runs back there. And she's like, great, dudes. We have a steak available for you.
00:23:57
Ty Fresh
Dude, they always want it to seem like it's there's a scarcity here. I bet they got six steaks back Totally. It's kind of like when you but you're buying a Birkin. they're like I was just going to say They're like, I'll see what we can offer for you.
00:24:08
Ty Fresh
And it's like, yeah, we can only get you the Kelly this time. Sorry. More restaurants got to do that where it's like, hey, we like you. And we only got one more like panna cotta left. Yeah. ah We want to offer it to you. We're not going to offer it to anyone else. It's going in the garbage. Would you like to buy it?
00:24:27
Ty Fresh
That's a great. That's a great thing, man. yeah More restaurants should do that. I think so too. makes it more fun. Yeah. And also like, I want to be told no too. Like if, uh, if I'm just like a broke boy client and I come in, I'm like, yo, I want your ribeye. It's like, sorry, you don't, you're not looking the part tonight.
00:24:45
Ty Fresh
swing go to the restaurant you like you guys't you killing me
00:24:53
Ty Fresh
walk up to the establishment you got the shabby clothes on maybe it's venomance maybe it's thrifted server can't tell she slaps the menu down in front of your table pulls out the black shery and starts redacting items on the menu Sizes you up and is like, ah no, none of these entrees. yeah Maybe you should get a handheld. Yeah, it just puts a big X over the Alphornos section. who We don't want you even dabbling in that. Nothing spicy for this guy. Nothing from the oven for the you, you bum. Yeah,
2026 Aspirations & Farewell
00:25:22
Ty Fresh
I like that. I think that gatekeeping, that would be pretty cool.
00:25:25
Ty Fresh
Yeah, dude. I love that idea. Eric's list. It's all redacted. Drop the Think Fresh files. Oh, shit. Well, on that note, Ty, I'm wishing you a very successful 2026. You know what I mean? For yourself and our podcast. Me too.
00:25:44
Ty Fresh
More episodes to come. We are not going anywhere. no um But, you know, we'll we'll be doing it at our own pace, I think. Yeah, we we do it our way, you know. Our way is the way. The way. way Our way is the way, the subway. Beautiful.
00:26:01
Ty Fresh
Beautiful ending notes, Eric. Redheads, you for listening. Think Fresh, everybody. Ciao.