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Ty & Eric discuss finger foods at Christmas parties, the Epstein list go-to-market strategy, doing karaoke until you’re sick, the concerning overlap between Air Fryers and vaping, the accidental mural artist gentrification loop, dressing for the weather you want, and the state of modern barbershop banter.
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Transcript
Weather Woes and Karaoke Adventures
00:00:50
Think Fresh
Bing, bing, bong.
00:00:52
Ty Fresh
yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:00:54
Think Fresh
Jesus Christ.
00:00:55
Ty Fresh
Oh, Eric.
00:01:01
Ty Fresh
That started as like a like a bit and then it became a real cough. And I'm not going lie, I'm really under the weather, Eric.
00:01:06
Think Fresh
Oh, no.
00:01:08
Ty Fresh
And that's saying a lot because the weather is down pretty bad.
00:01:12
Think Fresh
Yeah, you're somehow under this weather. That's crazy.
00:01:14
Ty Fresh
Yeah. Yeah.
00:01:15
Think Fresh
This weather is so horrible, dude. We've had probably, i don't know, a month or two straight of just rain, like one day of sun. If anyone wants to move to Vancouver, the most livable city on on earth, don't do it.
00:01:24
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:01:29
Think Fresh
I don't know how we qualify for that fucking list every year.
00:01:32
Ty Fresh
Yeah, it's it's because everyone's an introvert. They stay inside. They watch they watch a show. they they paint. And then they wait for the groundhog.
00:01:40
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:01:42
Ty Fresh
But not me and you. We're out and about. We're dreary. We're sad. We're drenching. We're dripping. And we're coughing.
00:01:52
Think Fresh
Yeah, Ty, I have, ah as your co-host, I have a lot of concerns about your health habits, to be honest.
00:01:58
Ty Fresh
Thank you.
00:01:59
Think Fresh
Like, um I mean, we were hanging out a few times and you were, ah I don't think you were dressed for the weather that time when we were hanging out in Chinatown.
00:02:09
Think Fresh
You were, it was raining that day too. And you were just out there in a light spring jacket, you know, I was, I was kind of concerned. I was like, what's going on with this guy? He's going to catch a cold soon. And then here we are two weeks later, you're sniffling and sneezing on all over the podcast.
00:02:24
Ty Fresh
Well, that's because i heard i heard that once that you're supposed to dress for the job you want and the weather you want. So that's what I do every single day, Eric.
00:02:31
Think Fresh
but
00:02:33
Ty Fresh
And I'm going to tell you right now, I didn't catch this because of any sort of pouring rain.
00:02:34
Think Fresh
I don't know, man.
00:02:41
Ty Fresh
I'm coughing my lungs out because I was belting my heart out at the karaoke last weekend. That's why i overdid it at karaoke.
00:02:49
Think Fresh
That's right. That's right.
00:02:51
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:02:52
Think Fresh
Dude, I don't know how that night transitioned into you screaming at the karaoke machine because when I walked in, you were sitting there like a good little boy coloring. And i was a little bit concerned because I was like, wait, I think I'm way too early to this party. We got Ty sitting there on the floor, cross-legged, coloring.
00:03:10
Think Fresh
i i had to make sure it was you. I tapped you on the shoulder. Is this Ty?
00:03:14
Ty Fresh
You did catch me off guard. I screamed. Yeah, Eric and I linked and built, at i guess you it was kind of like a a podcaster's convention of sorts.
00:03:17
Think Fresh
Oh, fuck.
00:03:22
Ty Fresh
um ah And it had a variety of activities that were mostly audible. it was I was doing a visualization activity, which is a non-podcasting form of media, and it felt good to stretch.
00:03:28
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:03:36
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Totally. People in our field usually do whiteboarding, but you are white papering because you are coloring with crayons on a giant mural.
00:03:41
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:03:45
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:03:45
Think Fresh
Is this like a Mural Fest preview,
The Mural Fest and Gentrification Debate
00:03:48
Think Fresh
Ty? What is going on here?
00:03:49
Ty Fresh
Yeah, I'm about to make my debut. Dude.
00:03:52
Think Fresh
i know you love Mural Fest so much.
00:03:54
Ty Fresh
If ThinkFresh got to do a mural at MuralFest this year, that'd be so sick. you could I could just put like a giant tomato slice on the side of a building. would look so awesome.
00:04:03
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Honestly, that would be fucking amazing. But I think there's some Emily Carr graduate who's already thought of that, unfortunately.
00:04:10
Ty Fresh
Yeah, it's kind of funny to be like as a non art school grad trying to like, like take ah take their few jobs, you know, it's like.
00:04:19
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. You don't even have a degree in this shit, bro.
00:04:22
Think Fresh
ah
00:04:22
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:04:23
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:04:25
Think Fresh
Dude, that's that's tough. um But I don't feel bad for them because they're like actively gentrifying the community. Right. By painting some kind of liberal arts degree mural on ah on a busy alleyway where people are doing fentanyl.
00:04:40
Think Fresh
um So why can't I do it? You know, i mean, I'm taking their shit, but they're also taking our shit.
00:04:46
Ty Fresh
Yeah, it's so funny that they do that because they're like, then one, two months later, they're like, oh, my rent went up. My brother in Christ is because you painted the mural.
00:04:57
Think Fresh
yeah Everyone thinks murals are all fun and games until they gotta pay more rent.
00:04:59
Ty Fresh
oop
00:05:02
Ty Fresh
Yeah, exactly.
00:05:04
Think Fresh
Ah, shit.
00:05:04
Ty Fresh
geez. So, yeah, Eric and I had to.
00:05:06
Think Fresh
But Ty, this...
The Evolution of Holiday Parties and Appliances
00:05:08
Ty Fresh
Oh, sorry. Go for it.
00:05:09
Think Fresh
No, I was just gonna say the same thing as you probably. This this party, Ty, it was a bit of a podcaster's convention. There was phone four known podcasters in attendance. Us and two others.
00:05:22
Ty Fresh
Yeah, incredible.
00:05:24
Think Fresh
Incredible stuff.
00:05:25
Ty Fresh
yeah ah and
00:05:26
Think Fresh
Luckily, it was not talked about at all, which is good.
00:05:28
Ty Fresh
yeah That's the beauty of the holiday season. It just brings ah like minds together, Eric. You and to your deranged unk at dinner.
00:05:39
Ty Fresh
You and odd fellow podcasters at parties. Yeah.
00:05:43
Think Fresh
Totally. i mean, i actually appreciate how, i think this is the first year where I've been to a multiple multiple Christmas parties hosted by friends. Like, feel like as I've like gotten older, that's becoming a bigger theme.
00:05:54
Ty Fresh
whoa
00:05:58
Think Fresh
Like prior to reaching my 30s, I don't think I've went to a single Christmas party hosted by friends. It was only just, you know, mommy and daddy's house. That's it. Yeah.
00:06:07
Ty Fresh
right right well uh i feel like as you get older you like start to like abandon your you're like
00:06:09
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:06:16
Ty Fresh
your family, you're kind of in that interstitial stage where like, I'm like half a decade away from starting my own family.
00:06:18
Think Fresh
yeah
00:06:22
Ty Fresh
My family's kind of disowned me at this age.
00:06:23
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:06:24
Ty Fresh
Like I can't keep coming home and expecting us stalking under the tree for Eric, you know?
00:06:26
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:06:29
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:06:29
Ty Fresh
so it's like, no, crazy, right?
00:06:29
Think Fresh
Growing-ass men coming home for Christmas? What are you doing, bro? Go start a family.
00:06:33
Ty Fresh
yeah Go provide for somebody.
00:06:39
Ty Fresh
So like you kind of have this interstitial period where nobody wants you and you have to find your own chosen family.
00:06:44
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:06:47
Ty Fresh
You have to go and that's so all the friends come together at this age.
00:06:48
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:06:51
Think Fresh
Totally, dude. Being a military-aged male is one of the hardest things in on earth.
00:06:56
Ty Fresh
With no act of war, it's super tough.
00:06:59
Think Fresh
Dude, it's so it's all these drones have taken our jobs. You know what mean? like The AI bots have come in and there's nothing less for us to do, dude. So we're kind of in this limbo where you're right.
00:07:10
Think Fresh
We're too old to go home for Christmas, too young to, don't know, pretend that you're Santa, you know? Yeah.
00:07:17
Ty Fresh
Yeah, just in time to Moonlight as an Amazon Prime delivery driver on Christmas Eve.
00:07:23
Think Fresh
but
00:07:23
Ty Fresh
Mm
00:07:24
Think Fresh
Oh, shit. Well, that was a fun party, though. What I really appreciated by what I would what I really appreciated was there was a constant stream of fried food being prepared.
00:07:37
Think Fresh
i don't know if you've if you indulged too much, but like so somebody brought the air fryer into the um party event space and was just kind of cooking the whole time.
00:07:37
Ty Fresh
hmm.
00:07:47
Think Fresh
So like every like 15 minutes, like another batch of like chicken nuggets or spring rolls would just come out and be piping hot.
00:07:48
Ty Fresh
dude
00:07:55
Ty Fresh
yo it's a crazy move to roll up to the party with an air fryer but like really smart just bring the air fryer and the whole freezer bring the deep freeze bring the air fryer and just get to work you're kind of like you can be grill master anywhere you know you're like crushing a beer you're working the grill you know you're serving up dogs
00:08:00
Think Fresh
Yeah, dude.
00:08:10
Think Fresh
Oh,
00:08:13
Think Fresh
shit. Dude, it's it's such a Gen Z or like late millennial thing to like not know how to use a grill, but have like the best air fryer recipes. You know what I'm saying?
00:08:23
Ty Fresh
Yeah, dude, that's because air frying is honestly, it's the vaping of barbecuing. if
00:08:29
Think Fresh
Dan, that's a great point. That's a great point. You're literally just augmenting the heat source. You know what I mean?
00:08:35
Ty Fresh
We're going to call it vaping it from now on.
00:08:35
Think Fresh
There's no more heat source.
00:08:37
Ty Fresh
Yeah, you want me to like quickly vape up some samosas for you?
00:08:41
Think Fresh
Totally. Wow. The electrification of our world. It's pretty amazing.
00:08:47
Ty Fresh
hmm.
00:08:48
Think Fresh
Henry Ford would be proud.
00:08:51
Ty Fresh
yeah Henry Ford is rolling in his grave right now.
00:08:54
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. I mean, Nikola Tesla, did he pave the way for the air fryer? Let's be real, you know?
00:09:01
Ty Fresh
Yeah. RIP Tesla, you would have loved the air fryer.
00:09:05
Think Fresh
ah
00:09:08
Think Fresh
You're telling me air fried this fucking whatever.
00:09:12
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:09:13
Think Fresh
yeah, dude, I also appreciate just the sheer variety of food that was coming out of that thing. We had lots of chicken nuggets, spanakopitas. um What else?
00:09:24
Think Fresh
Spring rolls.
00:09:25
Ty Fresh
Spring rolls.
00:09:26
Think Fresh
um
00:09:28
Ty Fresh
M&M's.
00:09:30
Think Fresh
All the finest that Costco had to offer.
00:09:33
Ty Fresh
Dude, I love me a little smorgasbord of little finger foods, especially when they're all piping and hot, like when they're all like burn your tongue hot.
00:09:38
Think Fresh
ah
00:09:41
Ty Fresh
It's like, get over here because that's like so often it's um the selection starts and ends at carrot sticks and dip. But as soon as you get into like hot food territory, you're really putting on a spread.
00:09:54
Think Fresh
Oh, dude. It's been so long since I've been to a house party with hot food.
00:09:58
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:09:58
Think Fresh
And it's kind of sad, you know?
00:10:00
Ty Fresh
Like, it's like, it'll be like cucumber sticks in a bag of Doritos.
00:10:05
Think Fresh
Yeah. And then everyone's like, i brought more Doritos. Fuck's
00:10:08
Ty Fresh
is Exactly.
00:10:12
Think Fresh
sakes.
00:10:13
Ty Fresh
I've lived that so many times.
00:10:18
Think Fresh
Is Cool Ranch vegetarian?
00:10:22
Ty Fresh
I think Cool Ranch is considered a vegetable.
00:10:22
Think Fresh
It's a valid question. Yeah, I agree. um But yeah, Tai, there was also a very large pot of vegetarian chili.
00:10:33
Think Fresh
And like just the pot of chili in a like slow cooker um combined with kind of the liminal space that we were in, it was giving like office vibes. Like, you know that episode where they cooked the batch of chili?
00:10:47
Ty Fresh
Oh, for sure. And thankfully, this one didn't end up on the carpet, but it ended up in my mouth a couple times.
00:10:51
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:10:55
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Yeah, fuck. I was actually, I left the party regretting that I didn't get a chance to try the chili, but I was just so enamored by the air fryer that was just hovering on the other side of the table the whole night.
00:11:07
Ty Fresh
It's interesting because like, not to like go tradition versus modernity again, bring that conversation back, but like the crock pot that the chili was festering in is kind of like the unk of the air fryer in a way.
00:11:19
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:11:23
Ty Fresh
Like they have a similar form factor. They can sit side by side on the counter. One's got slick beveled edges. The other's got this like ceramic and glass shell.
00:11:35
Think Fresh
yeah totally i mean it's really interesting because they're both from different eras they're from different eras but they both are looking to achieve the same goal of convenience like I remember when my family was first blessed with a slow cooker we took that thing for a whirl every day like you know you set it up before work come home and dinner's ready it's like pretty fucking incredible if you think about it
00:11:45
Ty Fresh
h
00:11:55
Ty Fresh
incredible it's actually whack when you think about it yeah you're just running the dishwasher type of thing
00:11:59
Think Fresh
Yeah, it's kind of like getting a robot a vacuum. It's like, it's not as good, but like the fact that you don't have to do anything is quite nice.
00:12:10
Ty Fresh
The slow cooker is, yeah, they're gen there's these like generationally defining appliances, you know? You and I come from the microwave generation, but these Zoomers, they get the air fryer.
00:12:18
Think Fresh
Mm hmm.
00:12:22
Ty Fresh
I don't know what Gen Alpha is getting as their like cooking utility of choice. i think maybe it's too early to call it.
00:12:29
Think Fresh
Yeah. Well, I think this is why and you are rejecting microwaves, but embracing air fryers. You know, it's like you have to reject the stuff that was just starting to get popular when we were teenagers.
00:12:41
Think Fresh
And then like once we enter unk status, we're like, yo, have you heard about this new thing called, you know, the Ninja Creamy? It's like everyone wants a Ninja Creamy for Christmas this year.
00:12:49
Ty Fresh
who
00:12:53
Ty Fresh
Yeah, now you got to put it in the nuke tube. That's how you do it now. and It uses fusion.
00:12:59
Think Fresh
Yeah. Nuclear energy is warming up my shawarma.
00:13:03
Ty Fresh
whom It's different than microwaves.
00:13:05
Think Fresh
Incredible. Yeah. um But yeah, why why do we hate appliances, Ty? Well, I'll answer the question first. I hate how everything kind of does the same shit, but like we're so impressed by the novelty of it being 1% different.
00:13:21
Think Fresh
So we just buy a whole new thing, a whole new rig to place in the kitchen. like Holy shit. like if Thank god they didn't invent a new type of dishwasher because we would have that too, you know?
00:13:33
Ty Fresh
h Yeah, I think they did. Have you seen like these micro dishwashers that are just for ah a quick a quick rinse?
00:13:41
Think Fresh
No, I haven't.
00:13:42
Ty Fresh
of Yeah, you just put a couple dishes in and then they're done real fast. So you can be like in and out.
00:13:47
Think Fresh
Oh, wow.
00:13:48
Ty Fresh
It's probably an actually like better it iteration on the format, but now you got two dishwashers.
00:13:49
Think Fresh
Okay.
00:13:56
Think Fresh
Yeah, I mean, the first thing I noticed when I moved into a big boy house was yeah have to like fill the dishwasher completely because I don't have, ah you know, a lot of dishes.
00:14:08
Think Fresh
before I like run out of space in the dishwasher. So I got like no cups left, but the dishwasher's still half empty. Oh fuck, I gotta run that shit.
00:14:14
Ty Fresh
ah Eric, that is... an you're're You're falling for NPC suburban logic. You don't need a full dishwasher to run it.
00:14:24
Ty Fresh
Just run it. Run it with one fork in it Who cares? We're in a water-rich country.
00:14:28
Think Fresh
I totally agree. That's right. We don't pay for water in this free land that we live in. You're right, Ty. I don't necessarily wait for it to be full, but the thing is, I just forget.
00:14:39
Think Fresh
You know, I remember once I opened the cupboard and there was no cups.
00:14:39
Ty Fresh
Hmm.
00:14:42
Think Fresh
That's when I remember I got do dishes. Same thing when you do laundry. You open the closet, no t-shirts. All your S-tier t-shirts are in the fucking wash.
00:14:50
Ty Fresh
Yeah, that is the worst.
00:14:52
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:14:52
Ty Fresh
OK, OK, I see where you're coming from. Yeah.
00:14:55
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:14:55
Ty Fresh
Yeah. Yeah, um
00:14:57
Think Fresh
So how do you deal with this, Ty? I know you react i know like not long ago you were actively against dishwashers too. So how do we come around on that?
00:15:04
Ty Fresh
yeah well, I have an anti application just mindset in general. No apps, and only appetizers.
00:15:13
Think Fresh
Getting a hold of this guy is impossible. This guy's got no apps.
00:15:15
Ty Fresh
So I guess I love a hand-washed shirt. I love a hand-washed dish. ah I love a hand-cooked meal. No slow cookers or air fryers in sight.
00:15:25
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:15:28
Ty Fresh
If I could make fire by rubbing my hands together to like fry my tofu, I would.
00:15:36
Think Fresh
dude i think we're paying you too much here i think fresh incorporated sounds like you have somebody hand washing your shit hand making your shit and i don't know some other shit but you're all everything is just bespoke you know no appliances everyone you just got a guy for everything it sounds like
00:15:51
Ty Fresh
h
00:15:55
Ty Fresh
It's just like when the job is by hand, that hand job is so much better.
00:16:03
Think Fresh
God damn it.
Epstein's Influence and Cultural Reflections
00:16:05
Think Fresh
Ty, speaking of hand jobs, we had a big announcement recently.
00:16:09
Ty Fresh
Oh, yeah, we got to talk about this.
00:16:11
Think Fresh
We got we gotta to talk about this. Real hard pivot. um But the Epstein rollout has begun, Ty. We're seeing more and more photos drop. I don't know if you caught the most recent one where you know Bill Gates was flicking up with some underage pics.
00:16:31
Think Fresh
and Have you reviewed the footage yet or what's what's going on?
00:16:31
Ty Fresh
Damn. I've gone through as much content as I can. It's I love the rollout cycle. It feels like when like Kanye goes on like a tweet storm and it just like rapid fire.
00:16:44
Ty Fresh
but you know what? It's super smart because like what the House Democrats are doing here, Eric, is they're dropping them in like Instagram, like whatever the max Instagram carousel length is. They're dropping them in that size so that people can just like immediately get like 20 picks up and then wait a couple days, 20 more picks up.
00:16:58
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:17:01
Think Fresh
You don't want to double post.
00:17:02
Ty Fresh
It's by design. No, it's by design so that it can fill a carousel.
00:17:08
Think Fresh
It's actually brilliant. Like they're just optimizing it for the modern news outlet. You know, no one's watching the news where we're getting our news from academics and, you know, we're seeing it in bite sized chunks.
00:17:15
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:17:23
Think Fresh
um
00:17:23
Ty Fresh
Yeah, certainly not the failing CNN. ah It's crazy, though.
00:17:27
Think Fresh
definitely not
00:17:27
Ty Fresh
Like, um we're what we're getting is kind of like Epstein wrapped, like happy December. You're getting you're getting the summary of like the year in review, you know?
00:17:39
Think Fresh
Mm hmm. Yeah, you did. It's like you you bang 10 chicks this year underage.
00:17:46
Ty Fresh
crazy.
00:17:47
Think Fresh
Damn. Mm hmm.
00:17:48
Ty Fresh
It does kind of, the photos are so funny because they kind of offer, like, there's a very, like, contemporary aesthetic on Instagram of just, like, photo dumping, and it doesn't feel too far off from that aesthetic, you know?
00:17:57
Think Fresh
Mm
00:18:01
Ty Fresh
Like, say what you will about Jeffrey, but he caught the vibe.
00:18:01
Think Fresh
hmm.
00:18:07
Think Fresh
Dude, was Jeffrey one of the most prolific creative directors of all time?
00:18:12
Ty Fresh
yeah He's ahead of his time for sure.
00:18:14
Think Fresh
Yeah. He's like, guys, another vibes post this fall. You know, it's just a close up zoomed in photo of a palm tree. Damn. He really had the vision, you know?
00:18:24
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:18:24
Think Fresh
but
00:18:25
Ty Fresh
You see the future first.
00:18:28
Think Fresh
So I looked through the footage, Ty. um I've noticed there's a few pictures of Bill Gates standing there with his lean gut, like arm around some ah some fine shit.
00:18:35
Ty Fresh
Yep.
00:18:39
Think Fresh
and And um you know there's others of like random, I'm gonna assume world leaders. you know I don't know who they are. I saw one with David Blaine in there.
00:18:51
Ty Fresh
Oh,
00:18:51
Think Fresh
um Yeah, David Blaine just doing some tricks, making the dick disappear.
00:18:56
Ty Fresh
oh he's doing some tricks for sure.
00:18:56
Think Fresh
um yeah
00:18:59
Ty Fresh
He's tricking.
00:19:00
Think Fresh
He's tricking all right. I'm trying to think what else. Yeah, there's like a girl's foot. i don't know if you saw that one. It's really like kind of dark shit, man.
00:19:08
Ty Fresh
Yeah, yeah
00:19:09
Think Fresh
i don't know. It's like pretty nasty, but Right.
00:19:11
Ty Fresh
A lot of like ah so much of the material is like so self-referential, you know, like all of the Lolita references. There's like all of the like I saw this whole thing about how Jeffrey Epstein made a chessboard.
00:19:24
Ty Fresh
Did you catch the chessboard?
00:19:26
Think Fresh
Chess board.
00:19:27
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:19:27
Think Fresh
No, I have not seen that.
00:19:28
Ty Fresh
Yeah, he like made a custom chessboard and he was both the king and the queen on the chessboard. And then all the pawns were like teenage girls.
00:19:38
Think Fresh
Whoa.
00:19:38
Ty Fresh
it's just like, there's just like they're building, they were building so much lore surrounding this for so long in secret. It's almost just like a, like an emerging culture develops in isolation.
00:19:50
Ty Fresh
And they had so much isolation there to like develop this. Like I'm going to say like rich culture surrounding their like nefarious acts. It's crazy.
00:19:59
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:20:00
Ty Fresh
And it's just like mind blowing how deep it goes.
00:20:04
Think Fresh
Yeah, dude. That's what that's what ah Bill Clinton was saying, too.
00:20:09
Ty Fresh
Maybe that's why they call it the deep state.
00:20:14
Think Fresh
shit. um Yeah, dude. Pretty wild stuff. like yeah Yeah, the self-referential stuff is like kind of dark. Was bro-inspired by Yeah. you think...
00:20:28
Ty Fresh
I don't know.
00:20:28
Think Fresh
and yeah do you think um Did Drake ever go to the island, Ty? We never talked about this, but is it is it possible that bro's just into young girls, you know?
00:20:41
Think Fresh
Did he ever go to the island?
00:20:42
Ty Fresh
I don't see... I didn't see a lot of musicians on these lists. Like, I think I saw one pick of MJ there.
00:20:48
Think Fresh
Okay, I was going to ask about that, too. If you think that's a real or not.
00:20:51
Ty Fresh
Which is like... Oh, I don't know. Maybe it's not real. But, like, it makes so much sense. Like, clearly, same industry.
00:20:57
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:21:00
Think Fresh
Same. Yeah, dude. Game recognized game for real.
00:21:03
Ty Fresh
Exactly.
00:21:06
Think Fresh
Oh, shit. um Yeah, dude.
00:21:09
Ty Fresh
I don't...
00:21:09
Think Fresh
I mean, it's kind of.
00:21:09
Ty Fresh
Here's the thing is, like... Oh, sorry.
00:21:11
Think Fresh
Go ahead.
00:21:12
Ty Fresh
I was going to say, I don't think Drake needs Epstein's like systems to pull underage girls. like He could build his own systems. So I don't think he was involved.
00:21:22
Think Fresh
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
00:21:25
Think Fresh
Yes, I think you're right. I'm trying to remember a joke I saw the other day it was like, when you're barber talking about something, like, it's like she's a nine, but on her birthday, she's 10. And then buddy, buddy's getting your shit right. So you just keep quiet, you know?
00:21:48
Think Fresh
God damn it.
00:21:48
Ty Fresh
that's amazing um yo
00:21:50
Think Fresh
Ty keeps going in and out of mute just to hack one out, but you don't have to die.
00:21:54
Ty Fresh
yeah let it spray on mike yo okay dude i feel like uh
00:21:58
Think Fresh
We're in different rooms, luckily.
00:22:04
Ty Fresh
You don't go to the barber anymore because you just kind of like set it to a two and just rub yourself down at home, right? this
00:22:13
Think Fresh
That's right. I buzzed myself down, Playboy.
00:22:14
Ty Fresh
Yeah. yeah And myself, I've permanently hired my partner to shave me down in the tub as well.
00:22:24
Think Fresh
but
00:22:25
Ty Fresh
So neither of us have been to a barber in quite a few years, like an actual barber. And I'd imagine the state of barber conversations right now is like, hard i don't think i could sit through that and again like i've gone so long without it i don't want to go back i don't because if you're sitting at a barber you're basically how it's like being like forced to listen to this podcast but you don't get to shut it off when you when it gets cringe or bad
00:22:51
Think Fresh
especially if he's getting your shit like looking right you know i mean like not getting interrupted when when when your barber is genuinely in flow state
00:22:55
Ty Fresh
yeah the only way
Barber Shop Chronicles and Cultural Interactions
00:23:00
Ty Fresh
you're gonna stop listening is if he clips an ear off
00:23:04
Think Fresh
oh fuck but ty you're actually wrong i have gone to a barber very recently it was actually i think a day before your wedding yeah i was in florence
00:23:12
Ty Fresh
Oh, no way. Oh, you went to an Italian barber. Good good on you.
00:23:15
Think Fresh
That's right. It was in Florence. i had to get right for my boy. um But it's the conversations at the Italian barbershop are very interesting because
00:23:24
Ty Fresh
Yeah, I'm sure.
00:23:26
Think Fresh
You know, you just, you know, you exchange a few words, like you say, you know, numero uno up top, you know, and then give me a nice skin fade and then kind of pray that they know what you mean.
00:23:37
Think Fresh
um But then, like, I think throughout the course of my haircut, I think four or five different Italian gentlemen walked through the door and just talked for like five minutes and then left. So...
00:23:49
Think Fresh
I don't think barber culture really exists over there. I think it's more like a stop and chat culture. Like I know where you work, so going to pull up on you, tell you what happened and then leave.
00:23:59
Ty Fresh
Yeah, I could totally see that. um I was like eating at a panini spot across from a barber in particularly Anno.
00:24:01
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:24:08
Ty Fresh
And I was watching the guy get an old man, like just got faded by an old man. Obviously, it's only like old man. don't know where the young guys get shaved.
00:24:19
Ty Fresh
But ah yeah, people are just like rolling up and chatting like a lot of like old hands in the in the hood would come by and like like make a passing remark.
00:24:30
Think Fresh
that's right that's like this like a barbershop is a spawning point for like you looking at your best you know Like, especially when you have like, you don't have short like long hair, like short hair, like you got the nice fade going. It's like, you're just like walking out of there looking crispy. So you got all the birds kind of lined up on the opposite sidewalk, just looking at the fine young cocks coming out of there. know what I'm saying? Cuckoo!
00:24:56
Ty Fresh
Oh, for sure. Yeah, dude. Well, yeah, you're you're nice and slick. you're There's no loose loose hairs. You're streamlined. you're like ah You're like a wet seal coming out of there, you know, lubed up.
00:25:06
Think Fresh
Oh, oh, oh.
00:25:08
Ty Fresh
ah Well, I know you subscribe to this philosophy of getting a haircut wherever you travel to, which I think is really admirable. And I tried doing that, Eric. I've tried doing that. I think I even mentioned it was this pod.
00:25:19
Ty Fresh
Last time I did that was in Manhattan Beach. And I, because I was like, Eric always gets a
00:25:22
Think Fresh
Oh. i don't know if you told me that.
00:25:25
Ty Fresh
oh, Eric always gets a haircut on vacation. I should do that. So i was down in LA for the week. i was like, swung by this Italian spot. Like old Italian dude ran this spot. i'm like, this has got to be the place. Old dude, empty shop, just minding his own business.
00:25:40
Ty Fresh
I go in there. Guy's not in sight. Don't know where he went. I keep shouting like, anyone here? Anyone here? he eventually comes out of the bathroom. I was like pretty sure he was like jerking off in the bathroom.
00:25:52
Ty Fresh
I'm almost certain.
00:25:52
Think Fresh
Why is your right hand warm, Monly?
00:25:54
Ty Fresh
Yeah, but then it's like they're always so like ah abrasive when they're like, they're like, come on, sit, sit, sit, sit. I was just like, I couldn't get out of the situation. So I just sat there and let him like cut me up.
00:26:06
Ty Fresh
And he did like a pretty mids job of it too. But it's probably because I caught him off guard. Like, I think I made him rap early.
00:26:15
Ty Fresh
So he's like, I'm going to give you a bad fade.
00:26:16
Think Fresh
Definitely. Yeah, he definitely pinched one off for you. Damn, that sucks, man.
00:26:20
Ty Fresh
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:22
Think Fresh
So I think you got to do your due diligence, though, when you're traveling and looking for a barbershop. Like for me personally, my tips um include scoping it out on Google Maps as, you know, carefully as you can, because you don't want to go for the place with the highest reviews.
00:26:39
Think Fresh
You want to go for the place with um like the best looking guys. I think that's usually a good sign. Like if the dudes there have nice hair and the place is decorated like like a like a cool guy's apartment, then that's a usually a good sign, you know?
00:26:55
Ty Fresh
Right, you're just trying to find the most tasteful spot.
00:26:58
Think Fresh
Yeah, exactly. You know, you don't need the good reviews. You don't want the extremely local spots either. Because I did that in Korea and I got probably the worst haircut of my life in Korea.
00:27:08
Ty Fresh
Yeah, that's fair.
00:27:08
Think Fresh
Because some guy like, like i don't know, the guy before me was like 100 old. And that was just me and him.
00:27:15
Ty Fresh
i I kind of think that's it, Eric. I think it's just like local spots are never good for barbershops. You got to find like the super gentrified place with like a very aesthetically decorated bookshelf, you know, like some cool swag as a part of their like
00:27:21
Think Fresh
No.
00:27:28
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:27:32
Ty Fresh
offering. like they don't say and There's like a nice comb brand and then maybe like a hat with their logo on it.
00:27:33
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:27:38
Think Fresh
Yes, perfect. yeah You don't want the hyper-local stuff. I think there's three kinds of like places you get your hair cut. Four if you count your bathtub. One is an extremely local place that people who are only going there if they're 100 years old and they've lived in the area for 100 years.
00:27:56
Think Fresh
ah There's the gay spots, which is like the chicks go there.
00:27:58
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:28:00
Think Fresh
And the third one is like in the middle, you've got like just the bros. You know I mean? And that's where you want to be.
00:28:06
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:28:06
Think Fresh
you want to be with the bros.
00:28:08
Ty Fresh
The bro zone, for sure.
00:28:09
Think Fresh
who Now not talking about Man Cave.
00:28:11
Ty Fresh
The friend zone.
00:28:12
Think Fresh
yeah You yeah you'd never ever go Man Cave in Yaletown?
00:28:17
Ty Fresh
No, what's man cave? do they Do they trim just ah uppers?
00:28:19
Think Fresh
It's like...
00:28:24
Think Fresh
Just the shaft.
00:28:24
Ty Fresh
Or uppers and lowers?
00:28:28
Think Fresh
No, dude, Man Cave is like if a vape shop opened a barbershop.
00:28:34
Ty Fresh
Hmm.
00:28:34
Think Fresh
That's like what it is.
00:28:36
Ty Fresh
So you can vape in there. Sick.
00:28:38
Think Fresh
I think you can vape in there, yeah. It's kind of like um if you were to like get in a fight at celebrities, like the guy would beat you up and then you would see him at Man Cave the next day.
00:28:50
Think Fresh
you know
00:28:51
Ty Fresh
Gotcha.
00:28:52
Think Fresh
yeah I wouldn't recommend going there.
00:28:53
Ty Fresh
Interesting. I don't know. That seems like kind of like my people, dude.
00:28:59
Think Fresh
It's kind of fun to be like the most normal guy at like a shitty spot. And then you just kind of like stand out, but in a good way. you're Like, damn, all you guys have like nothing going on.
00:29:06
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:29:08
Think Fresh
Just listening to rap music in a barbershop.
00:29:08
Ty Fresh
it
00:29:12
Ty Fresh
Sometimes if you want to be a muse, you just have to go to the wrong places, you know?
00:29:18
Think Fresh
yeah Yeah, you just want to be someone's muse for the day. That's how I feel when I walk into Subway, you know?
00:29:23
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:29:23
Think Fresh
Like the artist is like, damn, this guy's like, you know, I want to be him one day.
00:29:24
Ty Fresh
Follow me.
00:29:29
Ty Fresh
That guy's really got it together.
00:29:31
Think Fresh
yes
00:29:31
Ty Fresh
You want to be the best customer at the worst restaurant, right?
00:29:34
Think Fresh
but I think so too. think so too. Being the worst.
00:29:38
Ty Fresh
And that's kind of all... Oh, sorry.
00:29:40
Think Fresh
No, no, no, you please.
00:29:42
Ty Fresh
That's all micro-influencing is, Eric, is just being the best in the worst environment.
Micro-Influencing: Standing Out in the Crowd
00:29:50
Think Fresh
think so too. Yeah. You're creating a contrast, you know, you know, there's no, uh, there's no light without shadow.
00:29:54
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:29:59
Think Fresh
You know I'm saying?
00:30:00
Ty Fresh
Yeah. ah There's no...
00:30:02
Think Fresh
There's no meat without lettuce.
00:30:06
Ty Fresh
That was going somewhere it's very similar.
00:30:09
Think Fresh
ah okay cool There's no ketchup without mustard.
00:30:15
Think Fresh
That's right, Ty.
00:30:18
Ty Fresh
Well, well, well. This has been um pretty wonderful talking with you again, Eric. Do we get through like all of our topics today?
00:30:31
Think Fresh
Not really, but I think we can call it. We have you know big big movie coming out December 25th, Marty Supreme.
00:30:34
Ty Fresh
All right.
00:30:38
Think Fresh
I do wanna talk about that, but we should watch it and then talk about it.
00:30:41
Ty Fresh
That's a great idea. ah Let's try to get another episode in before Christmas because I think the breadheads deserve that. It will be a Christmas miracle.
00:30:49
Think Fresh
That would be just like whole lot of red, Christmas miracle.
00:30:52
Ty Fresh
Yeah. A whole lot of bread dropping December 25th.
00:30:56
Think Fresh
That's right, notifications are on. Okay, guys. Well, thanks for listening. Ty, a pleasure talking to you and we'll catch you next time.
00:31:05
Ty Fresh
Yeah. Think fresh, everybody. chow
00:31:07
Think Fresh
Ciao.