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476 — Fogle Files
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Ty & Eric crack open the Epstein Files to discuss [Redacted], [Redacted], [Redacted], [Redacted], and the repercussions of Clavicular getting framemogged by the ASU frat leader. -
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Transcript
Introduction of Wireless Microphones
00:00:52
Speaker
Hello, breadheads. Is this thing on? Oh, it's on, baby. What's up, breadheads? Ty and Eric are back in the booth. We might sound a little bit different today. That's right, Ty. um Yeah, I'm holding an ice-cold beer in my hands, and you know why I'm able to do that? Why are you
Theme of Perpetual Improvement
00:01:11
Speaker
able to do that, Eric?
00:01:12
Speaker
Because we are using two wireless lavalier mics, courtesy of Friend of the Pod, I mean. Yes, episode six, I think he came on. Three. Three, yeah, dude, an angel investor of sorts. That's right. So, so to me for these, but these, dude, Lavalier era, i this is so contemporary. We are wireless right now. I know. This is whack as hell. It's so strange. The mic is like right in on my chin, my chinny chin too. It's tickling your chin. Yeah, dude.
00:01:40
Speaker
I'm mogging this mic. Mm-hmm. I know. um Yeah, it's unreal. We finally, 476 episodes in, upgraded our audio system once again yeah to something that we could have used day one.
00:01:54
Speaker
i think the tech existed. It definitely did, too. But Think Fresh is the podcast of perpetual improvement. And
Enjoying Podcasting with Beer
00:02:00
Speaker
if you start with r the bare minimum, then we have lots lots of spaces to grow.
00:02:06
Speaker
That's right. um The Japanese word for that is kaizen, Tai. Like a kaizen bun. Kaiser? Oh, right. Sure, let's go with the kaizer approach here.
00:02:19
Speaker
um so my only regret now that we're hands-free is that I'm only holding one beer. Well, there's two more in the fridge, Todd. We should be double fisting these lowlife ultra lagers. This is a take on the lowlife lager that we previously would drink on mic, but it's like been more megified. don't know how to describe it. Yeah, these are these two beers are definitely pro-life. um I mean, it's low-life, so what do you expect? Yeah, low-life, pro-life.
00:02:45
Speaker
um I love that this can still to this day says, keep cold and drink fresh. It's almost like they know. That's such a great name for a podcast. but Whoa, no one take that one. Yeah, we might use that for the next kind of project.
00:03:00
Speaker
But
Curiosity about Epstein Files
00:03:01
Speaker
low-life ultra, Ty, ultra is in huge sans-serif font. And it's, I guess, speaking to the size of the can. Would you say that's accurate? This is a plus-size boy. We're looking at like a 500 milliliter, which that's like a a portion of a gallon. It's some kind of portion. It's some sort of portion. I'm not prepared to try to take a guess at it. No way.
00:03:24
Speaker
um Yeah, Ty, what's new with you? What's going on these days? Car still running? Yeah, Roeby's still running. No check engine light. Life is good, man. I've been dabbling a little bit in the Epstein files because, you know, it's been all over my news feed. Oh, yeah.
00:03:41
Speaker
Yeah. um And I feel like as, was like, one of the few, like... uh goyim journal like journalists that are still out there like there's very few uh then we should we should we should have a conversation about what's happening in there i think so can you tell me what goyim means i keep seeing it and i'm offended but i don't know why yeah yeah well that's because you should be it's a nickname for your type of person and what is that someone who doesn't practice the jewish faith
00:04:12
Speaker
Oh, Yeah, but that's what ah Jewish people call non-Jewish people. It's kind of like a mudblood. What? um
Misspellings in Emails
00:04:20
Speaker
Okay, so is there a word for like when Christians do that?
00:04:26
Speaker
Or is that just like, I don't know like non-believers would be one? and um Maybe like sex-ular or something. What? I can't tell if fucking with me or not. i just, I know so many words, dude. Dude, you're a fucking book. That's for sure. Yeah. They call me a big dictionary energy. ah A real hub of information.
00:04:50
Speaker
This is a meeting of the minds. Anyways, yeah, so all that all I know about the Epstein files is I went to the DOJ website, I typed in Fogel, no reference to him. Zero. No, really? Can you believe that like the biggest, like this because the Venn diagram of ThinkFresh material and what was happening in these Epstein emails, there's a lot of overlap there.
00:05:15
Speaker
Yeah. No, you're totally right Particularly big JF. Jeffrey Vogel. Well, you know what, Ty? I think I just realized something live on the mic right now. Hit me. I realized it fucking two seconds ago.
00:05:28
Speaker
um I feel like, you know how the emails are just littered with spelling errors and like poor grammar, zero punctuation, just fucking, it's like he like was typing with his hard dick instead of his fingers. It's almost like a child tried to type them. Exactly.
00:05:47
Speaker
Jesus. um Yeah. So it just feels like that was done on purpose to throw off any future search queries. Cause like it's impossible to find Fogel if it's spelled correctly.
00:06:00
Speaker
I didn't try Fogel with a zero instead of O. Or like Fogel. Yeah, you're right. Fogli. Fogliato. you know like There's a few ways to spell it, and feel like it was all done on purpose to throw off any potential searches.
00:06:15
Speaker
Yeah, I like this theory. I don't want to spread more fake news into the ether, though. Yes, you do.
Humorous Take on Epstein Files
00:06:21
Speaker
You're right, I do. I did hear that the emails are are poorly syntaxed because the software that the DOJ is using to like pull the text from the emails, like it's really tough to like extract certain information from emails. So it just like jiggles up all the the strings. That's what I've been told.
00:06:42
Speaker
i heard they redacted his name because they want to protect big jf think about it ty yeah he jared already went down for it why didn't if they had the chance they could have just pinned it all on him and like that guy that you knew is the pedo he's the ring leader they could have made him it could have been jared's i you know fogel's files little saint jared yeah dude like you could be the focal files right now if they played their cards right they could have pinned it all on him Wow. The Fogel files has a better ring to it as for sure. Sure does. um Fuck, dude. So Fogel famously went down for having a lot of beep on his computer. This podcast has been redacted by the do o DOJ Department of Jesters.
00:07:28
Speaker
But... so We are Jester Maxine. Oh, shit. Um... I was going to say, oh yeah, he he was known for like using his computer. So maybe he was actually kind of the HQ, you know, masterminding the whole thing.
00:07:43
Speaker
He ran the database. You know, he was kind of IT support for the whole operation. Is that plausible at all to you? It's highly likely. I think what we actually need is the people need to see the unredacted jared Jared files. We need to see his email. We need to see what was happening in his Yahoo account circa 2007.
00:08:05
Speaker
Okay. Why do you think it is that the Jared files, or sorry, of the Jeffrey Epstein files are like, excuse me, very like talked about and a sticking point for so many. It's like everyone wants to see the damn files.
00:08:19
Speaker
But where was this energy when Fogel was, you know, fighting in his case? Like no one was like, we ought to know who Fogel iss communicating with as well.
00:08:30
Speaker
I think it's because people people are willing to look the other way, you know, because they love sandwiches so much. People? People. ah I think we got a bit of a glitch there with these lights.
00:08:42
Speaker
My brain glitched. it just We just redacted a sentence, that's all. Also in the files, Eric, there were 512 references to sandwiches.
00:08:54
Speaker
No way. Yeah. Okay, hold up. So was Epstein like ordering sandwiches off DoorDash? A lot of them were orders. Like he put in a lunch order with his assistant or something and they'd be like confirming like what the ingredients are. So I don't know. I don't have a I don't know. Mr. Epstein, are you sure you want double mayo?
00:09:16
Speaker
I will say he was a freak for the tuna. Tuna fish came up quite a bit. Damn. Well, when you're living that island life, Ty, you're dabbling the seafood. Yeah, you're when you're staring out of the ocean every day, you sir that's what you rely on. here you You live off that. That's the food of your culture. That and babies. Oh,
Pizzagate Conspiracy Theory
00:09:36
Speaker
shit.
00:09:37
Speaker
Dude, yeah, that marinara sauce, the one Subway location on Epstein's Island, don't have the marinara. It's baby blood. Yeah, he probably gets it veggie delight because going to add his own meat. Oh, no.
00:09:49
Speaker
Some that Jeffrey jerky. Nasty. Oh, fuck. We live in crazy times. Yeah, dude. Do you think one of the sauces was cream of some young guy? Ayo.
00:10:05
Speaker
Yucky. Yucky. Oh, fuck. Damn. Did you find anything interesting in the Epstein files or? Not yet, but I'm going to keep digging and we're going to, I think like what our job is as journalists is to come at this giant like file set from a new angle.
00:10:23
Speaker
Cause everyone's looking for, they're looking for the dirt. I think we start, we start looking between the bread and we go up from there, you know? Got to start digging in some buns, I think. Yeah, the less obvious keywords is kind of our where we thrive, you know? Yes, you're totally right. So we'll find something. we'll bring it Hopefully next episode we'll have something meaty to bring to the breadheads. Well, Ty, I have one thing for you, and I searched some lesser known keywords, such as pizza.
00:10:52
Speaker
Pretty popular. Pretty popular, actually, turns out. um Have you heard of Pizzagate? You're online. You know what that is. I'm familiar with the gate. Yeah, just for those who don't know, Pizzagate is referencing the, I guess, the amount of times pizza is mentioned in the files and, like, amongst billionaires. Like, they seem to be always talking about pizza for some reason. And some young Redditor or 4chan user, I don't know, is...
00:11:19
Speaker
kind of piece it together that pizza could be a euphemism or a like a code word for some young guy like some underage uh you know dealings right right so it's like kind of a compliment of at all someone calls you a hot slice you know it's like oh you're a desirable boy Exactly.
00:11:42
Speaker
So I think when they're emailing each other, they obviously they were like talking about a lot of incriminating shit in there, but they were smart enough to never like mention kids kind of directly. But the theory is that they were talking about pizza instead. So there's actually quite a few emails where they're like placing pizza orders or they're like inviting each other for pizza.
00:12:05
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Like two billionaires just emailing each other being like, yo, come over for pizza tonight. It's like, why are you having pizza like three days a week? You're a billionaire, have caviar. Totally, like what's on this pizza, truffle cream sauce.
00:12:19
Speaker
But they're ordering pizza for each other and then they're emailing each other the next day being like, oh, thanks for the hot slice last night. Shit. So it's definitely a code. It could be a code, yeah. Maybe all of these references to deli sandwiches that I'm reading is actually about like a young Italian boy.
00:12:37
Speaker
You know? Or maybe pizza's girl and sandwich's boy. It could be something like that. So I need to go back through those files with this new perspective and think about are they actually getting sandwiches?
00:12:48
Speaker
Are they getting footlongs? Or they getting six inches? If you know what i mean. Oh, I'm picking up what you're putting down, playboy. That's for sure.
00:12:58
Speaker
God damn it. Wow. So lots to uncover. i This is this is the biggest like um cover up slash controversy, I think, of all time, potentially.
00:13:12
Speaker
I don't know, dude. JFK was pretty big too. JFK was pretty big too. Okay, fair. 9-11,
Society's Obsession with Scandals
00:13:18
Speaker
Ty? Come on. dining levin is interwoven into this. It's all interwoven. Even like fuck Bill Clinton like getting the the BJ, you know is like that's like barely even the most minor. Relative to what's happening here, it's like so minor. Mm-hmm.
00:13:35
Speaker
Yeah. Trump blowing Bubba has nothing to do with... We just glossed right over that. It has either nothing or something to do with it. We'll never really know, but there's just too much controversy to be like, oh, that's the thing we need to like focus on right now. It's like, okay, so they maybe he maybe he did. Who are we to judge?
00:13:55
Speaker
I don't know, dude. Bubba's got some like good aura, though. you know I wouldn't like put it past Trump. you know Yeah, there's something charming about that guy. Yeah, like if any former president could do it, it's Big B. And I'm talking about Bush. I'm talking about bush light haunting Bush Bush Light had no aura.
00:14:17
Speaker
But Bill, he could mog. Oh, dude, Bill was mocking Bush all fucking time. Hell yeah. All the time. We should talk about the clavicular drama happening right now. Speaking of being being mugged. Yeah, exactly. Eric, do you want to explain to the uninitiated what's going on on the internet right now?
00:14:38
Speaker
I'll try my best. Yeah, please. um So everyone should know by now the looks maxing movement. They should know what that is, kind of the whole point of it.
00:14:48
Speaker
um There have been, i guess, probably multiple looks maxers who have kind of shined above others. Yourself and me included. Exactly. This podcast.
00:15:02
Speaker
One of which has popped up quite a lot on my Instagram feed and TikTok feeds. It goes by the name of Clavicular, which I thought was like a medical condition when I first heard it, but it turns out it's a guy. um It's a man. assembl like It sounds like a Marvel supervillain. It does.
00:15:23
Speaker
Or like a band. Yeah, yeah. I'm i'm going to the clavicular show. He was charged with clavicular manslaughter. It's like, bro, clavicular is opening for Black Keys tonight.
00:15:36
Speaker
But anyways, this guy popped up on my feed and i think what's so interesting about him is that he just live streams all the time and he talks about how like he was like doing meth and stuff. Cool. And how he would like take his mom's like hammer and like do bone smashing. Yes, I heard about the bone smashing, which is not a metaphor. He's literally hitting a hammer on his face yeah to shape it, put it, get it into shape, I guess. He's molding it. I wish I did that when I was a kid. That's so smart. I know.
00:16:10
Speaker
I understand where the logic comes from, but he this guy's like literally beating his face with a hammer, like his cheekbones and jawline. his chin ah in the hopes that breaking down the bone will cause it to grow back stronger and bigger. So he's going to pronounce his cheekbones and and
Clavicular and Internet Fame
00:16:29
Speaker
whatnot. Brilliant. um And I think the idea with this is he just gets a lot of live stream views.
00:16:38
Speaker
um And he wanted the in one of the live streams, he went to ASU, which is, I think, Arizona State University. Likely. And he got frame-mogged by one of the frat leaders, Ty. Oh, that sucks, dude.
00:16:53
Speaker
To break your own bones for the it's just the spirit of the game and then to be mocked like that, is that's gotta hurt. I know. Everyone knows where they were when Flavicular got frame-mogged. But do you know what frame-mogging is, Ty?
00:17:09
Speaker
I'm assuming that it's a frame being the camera and mogging being showing up better. No, Ty. It's like your physical frame. Oh, you're literally like the the V shape you're trying to create between shoulders to waist? Mm-hmm. Shoulder width. Yeah. Ratio and total width, that would say. Gotcha. Okay. yeah Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.
00:17:29
Speaker
It is interesting. So ah this fall from grace, what's been the like ah ripple effect of that online? Well, I think the entire internet shut down for about four minutes. Yeah, everyone's divided. Are we with ASU or are we with clavicular? I think we all kind of feel bad for clavicular because it's kind of like... I'm pretty sure there's there's like a scene in Batman where you think Batman's gonna die because the Joker kind of got a one-up on him, right? And everyone's like, oh fuck, like this might be the end for Batman.
00:18:03
Speaker
but uh the movie's not over yet ty i think we're we're kind of coming back because he had a appearance at the new york fashion week he did a runway he's gonna be a great balenciaga model he did a runway walk for some brand i don't even know which one but um he's kind of making his way back into the scene and dude we should send him something fresh merch oh i think he needs it for sure that'd be sick I think we need to create a muscle tank for him. One with like really tiny straps. Yes. Just so we can get back it. Just like a little nipple cover. yeah Yeah. The think tank.
00:18:41
Speaker
That's good. That's actually really good. That's actually pretty good. Okay, so now that I'm all caught up with what the hell is going on here, makes a lot of sense. um I think what's happening here, Eric, is like and why this guy is resonating so much, is he's transcended man to meme. A lot of like men become meme-ified.
00:19:03
Speaker
And then they like still have to maintain their sense of self. But I feel like this guy. And so like because of that, there's always a conflict of interest where I'm trying to be a human. But the world wants me to be a meme.
00:19:14
Speaker
But i feel like this clavicular guy, he's like from the from the jump has been a meme. Like he's been building up the meme of vacation of his entire persona for so long that he's just naturally progressed in it. And he's he's transitioned.
00:19:30
Speaker
He's more meme than man. And he's okay to embrace that, you know? And he's live streaming. He's like vlogging daily. He's online as a meme. yeah That's just him.
00:19:41
Speaker
you can't You can't invent that. like that just That's like a one in a million chance. Yeah, it's kind of like a sonic boom of of sorts, Ty. You know when like a jet starts moving faster than the speed of sound and then it just breaks the sound barrier? like He broke the meme barrier.
00:19:58
Speaker
you know like He did. The meme of meme of it all kind of passed... him as a man, you know? So it's no longer like what this guy thinks or feels. It's just the spectacle. That's all that matters. But I think he knew that that's what he was designing was the spectacle to begin with. So I think he can keep up with it. I think he can
Internet Figures as Memes
00:20:19
Speaker
go at light speed here, which means there's no no telling how far this meme could go.
00:20:26
Speaker
that's true i mean it's already progressing faster than one thought yeah dude he left hawk to a like way behind hawk to a walked hawk to a spat so he could gurgle So he could mew.
00:20:43
Speaker
So there's another guy, I don't know if you've heard of Androgynic. No, I don't know Androgyniclis. um He's like an Australian looksmaxer.
00:20:54
Speaker
And um apparently he took personal offense when ah Clav, as I like to call him, was frame-mogged so brutally at the frat house. So he said, you know what, fuck I'm going to fly to America and I'm going to avenge Clav.
00:21:10
Speaker
So he's heading to Arizona right now to go fuck up the ASU frat leader? I think so. Whoa. so Has this unfolded already online? um i think Last I checked, he was on his way. so i haven't seen any updates, but I'm sure in 24 hours we'll get something. Gotcha. Yeah. I only have one question, Eric.
00:21:29
Speaker
What does this all mean? I've been asking myself this the whole time. I don't know. What do you think it means? I think it means we need new heroes. I think the world needs people to look up to.
00:21:42
Speaker
And, you know, like, look what they did to Britney Spears, the industry. Look what the state of, like, Drake's canceled. Like, guys in need, all people need, like, a muse. And what's a better muse than mewer?
00:22:00
Speaker
What's a muse to a mewer?
00:22:05
Speaker
ah Goddamn it. You know, okay, so basically i got lost in my own kind of thought there. But what I'm trying to say is like we need people to look up to. We need heroes. We need new energy ah identities to follow. And I think this is just kind of shows the desperation and like desire for something fresh on our newsfeed and in our in our cultural sphere.
00:22:27
Speaker
You can't
Male Beauty Standards
00:22:28
Speaker
just be normal anymore. You know, you have to you have to push the boundaries. Mm-hmm. You know what? I don't think this is anything different from what we've been indulging in since the dawn of man, to be honest.
00:22:40
Speaker
Every village has some freak show that everyone kind of just looks at in like a human zoo, you know? And i think Instagram and TikTok are our human zoo now.
00:22:52
Speaker
Right. This is kind of like the circus didn't die. It just took a new form. Exactly. Like at the circus, you used to pay with a quarter to get in and then you would see like the curtains would unfurl and you would see some guy with like an arm sticking out of his head and be like, um yeah i'm I'm the freak of whatever town.
00:23:13
Speaker
And now we just have like guys hitting themselves with hammers and doing meth. Gotcha. Instead of the strongest man, it's now like the man with the largest waist to shoulder ratio. Exactly. Exactly. Instead of the hairiest woman, it's now like the prettiest influencer.
00:23:31
Speaker
I think with um like homophobia kind of dwindling. Record low, but making a comeback. That's true. It comes in, you know, ebbs and flows, I guess. It does. But I think, like, all men now, or at least majority, appreciate, like, another fine-looking men, you know?
00:23:56
Speaker
And I think when we see, like... we don't We don't necessarily need to see like hot chicks anymore on online or on like calendars and things like that. Now we just kind of want like guys with a great frames. Totally. like Hot dudes are totally fine in the feed with me because it like it just gives you something aspirational to work towards. you know like Start thinking about like not enough guys are thinking about like how they project themselves.
00:24:21
Speaker
Totally. And I think that'll be the fault of our forefathers. Well, you'll look back on these guys and you'll be like, you got, look, guys like you'll, well, some of the guys you'll be like, oh wow, real natural jawline, like high T from being in three wars. But then other than other guys, you'd like, you were not, you weren't mewing at all.
00:24:40
Speaker
m Yeah. It's like you were ma you you were couch maxing your whole life. Or jester maxing, as they say. Yeah, it's a tough world out there, but I think um think all of us are becoming more open, you know, open-minded to ah you know improving ourselves and things like that. So
Closure of Matchstick Coffee
00:24:59
Speaker
I don't think it's a net negative. I think it's actually a net positive that people like Clav and Androgynic exist. Mm hmm. It's opening a whole new. Well, in a way, it's like the like fringe online male health world has been like so it's been people have been so critical of it for so long, you know, kind of forced it into these corners of the Internet, these niche online bodybuilder forums. So giving them an avenue into the general sphere is maybe good for them too to be like taken a little seriously. And then if they're taken a little seriously, maybe they'll engage in some like real discourse with people about what they're doing and like make what some of the positive learnings from their spaces more just approachable. I think it makes sense. they're Right now they're just fighting for our attention.
00:25:47
Speaker
And I just want to say to Clav, like you have our attention. like What now? you know Yeah, what do I do? you know Just like, let's go to the next thing now. Teach me how to be a better man. You know what I mean?
00:25:59
Speaker
Yeah, but not in a Brian Johnson way. I'm like a like ah someone I can sit down and eat a footlong with. Yeah, exactly. BJ would never touch a footlong. BJ? Brian Johnson. Oh.
00:26:13
Speaker
Okay. Anyways, what else we got on this pod topic list for today? We got a lot of things, Ty. I want to talk about some sad news, actually. Oh, man.
00:26:26
Speaker
Enemy of the pod. Matchstick. ah um It's closing down, Ty. And although they are an official enemy of the pod, we'll that later, I am sad that they're closing down because they made a good Americano.
00:26:42
Speaker
I did like their Cortado. They knew how to froth milk. We're talking about Matchstick Coffee Roasters, a coffee chain here out of Vancouver for our international listeners. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Nobody fucking knows what that is. We have a long history of ah placing orders at Matchsticks and having just, I don't know, difficult conversations with baristas there. Yeah.
00:27:05
Speaker
Their war on plugs was a big controversy in the city. Their owner got canceled at one point. i don't know. There's been a topic of conversation way back to the beginning of Think Fresh. Oh, for sure.
00:27:18
Speaker
Yeah, this was like, yeah, you're right. The very beginning of Think Fresh because it was during COVID that this happened. I think like... When every business was getting canceled, like there was a time, like the young viewers may not know, but there was a time where every single business had its bottom tier employees being like, yo, my boss called me the N word once or like, or like whatever. And it was like, just a fucking bloodbath. Like every single company went down, uh, or like try to try take them down. Yeah, it's crazy. Like you can literally get like your PTO request rejected and you could like take down a whole company with that. With that one email. They didn't let me take my time off. Yeah, they're being ableist. I need this time for my mental health. They didn't call me a little bitch, but they made me feel like one. Yeah, they never verbalized it, but I felt like they was so much tension there. It was a toxic environment. It was a microaggression. Okay. So many microaggressions.
00:28:17
Speaker
Death by a thousand microaggressions. Facts. But yeah, like they never really went anywhere, but I guess business was just tough. um I'm thinking like, i don't know why though.
00:28:29
Speaker
Yeah, dude. Actually, i learned that the owner handed over the business to a new owner after they got canceled. It actually changed hands. Oh, wow. Yeah. So, but I don't know why they're like shutting down now because they have like a lot of locations. They were decently successful as a coffee chain.
00:28:45
Speaker
um But they're always kind of a little, like a little bit, like a little bit of a bitch online. They're always like, crime in the area makes it harder to do business. You're right. open in that neighborhood. Yeah, totally.
00:28:59
Speaker
Yeah, i know. It's a great point. They're very whiny online. And it's like, I think when businesses complain about doing business online, like they complain about how hard it is or like, it's like, I don't know. It's just like such a turnoff and it makes me not want to go there ever again. Yeah, just try harder. That's the whole point of business is like the strong survive in the week. Do not.
Future of Urban Centers
00:29:21
Speaker
Yeah, it's like you don't, you're not entitled to my business. Like if I'm deciding to go to a different coffee shop or if I like,
00:29:28
Speaker
I don't know, would rather like move neighborhoods because the neighborhood is turning to shit. It's not my fault. that I'm no longer shopping there or like buying your fucking $7 latte. 100% dude. And like coffee shops in particular seem to be the most whiny. Like JJ Beans the same way. like You see any of the Starbucks press releases, they're all these complaining about stuff too. And they have all the money in the world, but it's like,
00:29:54
Speaker
Your job is to overcharge me for a coffee, offer a free public bathroom to the homeless, and help me gentrify a neighborhood so that I can get a cool loft in 10 years in that neighborhood. Those are your three jobs. fuck you're You're right, honestly. And if you can make a business worth doing those three things, then good for you. If not, move on. Someone else will try.
00:30:17
Speaker
You know what, Ty? I used to go to Matchstick every single morning. I think when we met, that's what I was doing. I was spending my hard-earned cash there every morning. lived above one. That's right. You never want to live above a fourth wave car shop. You want to go at least one block to get there. yeah Separation between work and beverage. yeah I would say if you live above one, your rent's going up, but it turns out it's going down.
00:30:38
Speaker
It is now. So it might actually be an investment opportunity to get in early and then watch your rent just plummet. um but i distinctly remember this one morning where i was waiting for my coffee and some homeless lady walks in and i could tell she wants to start something with the baristas but he's looking for a fight yeah but i think the barista before the person even like walked fully inside had like a croissant in hand ready to give it to them
00:31:09
Speaker
And I'm thinking like, whoa, whoa, whoa. If you threaten them, you get a free croissant. Like, is this like a thing I can start doing? And now I'm not surprised that they're going out of business. They're just handing out croissants.
00:31:21
Speaker
Right. Crazy shit. You just have to look intimidating and then you get a pastry. Yeah. Maybe this will take the edge off. Yeah. And then you're just also enabling that behavior. So this lady is probably going and telling all of her crackhead friends being like, yo, match, the just walk in there, cause a scene and they'll give you a sandwich or whatever. Yeah. Like, I've tried this at Subway. It does not work, my friend. It does not, dude. Like, I'm way too friendly with the sandwich artists. I walk in and like, give me a hug, give me a hug. Yeah, dude, Subway is too, like, right-winged for that.
00:31:54
Speaker
Like, Subway will be like, get the fuck out or they'll shoot you in the back, right? Yeah, totally. But Matchstick is like, it's like, no, would you like to do drugs in our bathroom? We'll come right on in. Yeah, we're all doing it. And this is this is actually a safe injection site. Yeah. Yeah, we can actually provide you with the drugs. Yeah, exactly. Most people just inject the caffeine orally. yeah You can have whatever you want in the bathroom.
00:32:19
Speaker
Damn. So, yeah, I'm not surprised that they ah failed. Yeah, have checks out. Well, it's the destiny of all businesses is either you big grow up big enough to see yourself become the multinational coffee chain or you ah you die trying.
00:32:39
Speaker
Do you think all cities are just turning to shit? Because have a theory that like nobody's actually hanging out in the downtown core anymore of Vancouver at least.
00:32:50
Speaker
I'm willing to bet it's like most west coast cities. Yeah. um Like LA, like nobody's downtown. No. Portland is just run by like meth dealers and addicts. Yeah, and Antifa. Antifa. Seattle has like a tent city that if you like come anywhere close to they'll shoot you. Yeah, the only real buildings are the Amazon office and every other building is a semi semi-permanent tent structure. Yeah.
00:33:14
Speaker
So i'm wondering, like, do you think in like 20 years, just downtown will become like the bad part of town? You know, like be like there won't be any businesses there. It'll just be like tents and offices. Definitely, because here's what's going to happen, Eric.
00:33:32
Speaker
The AI takeover is going to eliminate all white-collar jobs. Those all happen downtown. So if you don't have a white-collar job downtown, you're getting out of there.
00:33:43
Speaker
There's going to be like a return to... like Simple business models where you provide a service like electricians and bakers, you know, you're going to run a bakery, you're going to you're going to run out an Indian restaurant, you're going to you're going to go door to door selling a physical trinket you bought thousands of off Timu. What about podcasts that talk about Indian restaurants?
00:34:06
Speaker
That is maybe there's still a niche for that. We'll see how good the voice models are. for our sake So what's going happen though is like the city can only sustain so many bakeries, clearly so many cafes.
00:34:18
Speaker
So everyone's going to flee out to back to the small towns. There's, I think there's going to be a migration out of the city because like, oh, this small town doesn't have a bakery. I don't have a job.
Maintaining Optimism
00:34:30
Speaker
I have an idea. I could go make shitty croissants over there.
00:34:35
Speaker
Have you heard of the two salesmen that went to Africa? No. is this a a joke? You tell me that. There were two salesmen that went to Africa, shoe salesmen. Okay. one sold the left ones, one sold the right ones.
00:34:51
Speaker
No. shit um When they came back from their business trip, one of them was like, you know, guys, pack it up. ah There's no opportunity in Africa. Nobody there wears shoes.
00:35:03
Speaker
And the other guy said, guys, we're moving Africa. Nobody has shoes on there. That's true. Just find the need. Fill the gap. It's all perspective at the end of the day. That's a real glass habit full kind of mentality for sure. Totally.
00:35:17
Speaker
ah That's how I feel whenever i have an empty beer in my hand and I see empty hands. I know. You can't be sad about that. like That means you just had a great beer. Yeah, or a great one's coming. Or you have another one on the way. Life is amazing. Life is fucking brilliant. Interesting.
00:35:35
Speaker
Ty, should cut it off there and ah finish off these other two beers we have? Yeah, we got some drinking to do. so we'll save the We have so many topics. We'll save them for next week. Sounds great. Redheads, thank you for listening.
00:35:47
Speaker
Ciao. Ciao.