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Episode 139 - First Round Pick
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Someone has to take Shedeur Sanders eventually right???
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Opening Mishap and Podcast Intro
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Austin
All right, well, I mean, listen, I'm ready when you are.
00:00:06
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, I'm i'm ready. um
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Austin
me get this thing.
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Victor Gaudiosi
I guess ah guess we'll play the intro music without Mike.
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Austin
We'll play it ah in honor.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:00:36
Victor Gaudiosi
What's up, guys? Welcome back Laundry in the Basement, episode 139, believe. think we're 139. i believe i think we're on one thirty nine um Yeah, Mike is unfortunately no longer with us.
00:00:47
Victor Gaudiosi
He has passed away from a from like ah tragic self-suck incident.
00:00:52
Austin
I don't know. he went He went on an international.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Oh, oh yeah, you're you're giving the real reason?
00:00:55
Austin
Oh, oh, oh, oh. Sorry.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, no, he's he's on vacation.
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Austin
Yeah, so I'm giving the PR answer. giving the PR answer.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, he'll be back next week.
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Austin
like me
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Victor Gaudiosi
but
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Austin
Yeah.
00:01:05
Victor Gaudiosi
Oh, man, so yeah, you just get me in Austin today.
00:01:07
Austin
Sad, I know.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. We're doing this fucking bright and early.
00:01:14
Austin
Yeah.
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Victor Gaudiosi
It's probably not early for you. It's early for me.
Everyday Fixes and NFL Draft Chatter
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Austin
Why did you just get up?
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, i I woke up when you texted me like, oh, what do we what do we have for today? i was like, oh, shit, I got to start preparing. Yeah, it was a latent.
00:01:27
Austin
Well, you'd be happy to know that I got some WD-40 and I put it in this chair.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Oh.
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Austin
Now, look at him. I'm moving and grooving. No squeaks.
00:01:37
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, I gotta do the same, because myweak like my squeaks end up in the recordings sometimes.
00:01:42
Austin
Yeah, well, you got a much more...
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Victor Gaudiosi
Like, i can hear I can hear the chair.
00:01:45
Austin
Yeah, your mic's more sensitive than mine is.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. So I gotta take care of that. But, um, yeah, man, it was ah it was a late night last night. ah Was locked into the NFL draft. ah Had a couple friends over, basically threw, like, a little party.
00:02:02
Austin
do you Do you do anything for the draft or you just watch it?
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Victor Gaudiosi
ah
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Victor Gaudiosi
I just watch it. Like, yeah, there's I mean, there's not much else to do.
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Austin
Okay.
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Victor Gaudiosi
I do a lot of like um listening and like prep for the draft. Like I listen to a lot of podcasts. I watch a lot of you like YouTube videos to like, don't know, listen to like mock drafts and see where people are going.
00:02:24
Victor Gaudiosi
um
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Austin
But does that...
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Victor Gaudiosi
Because I don't know what you're saying.
00:02:28
Austin
Does that... Do you do... Because I have very little, like I've done one fantasy draft, but do you do anything with it? I know people that that have bets on it and other people that are using it for information for their fantasy league, but like I don't know how that works other than they watch it and then it's over.
00:02:48
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, for for the most part, I'm doing it for, you know, fantasy. I'm trying to see who ends up on the Steelers or, you know, see where prospects go for, like, certain teams. Like, um you know, if, like, there's a guy like in the draft or whatever and they end up on, like, a good team, it's, like, pretty cool to watch. But, um yeah, mainly it's for fantasy.
00:03:09
Austin
Okay.
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Victor Gaudiosi
um Like, this year, one of my leagues that I run with Atticus, we have the first overall pick, which means we get... um Ashton Gentry, the running back who just got drafted to the Raiders last night, which is like a pretty, I mean, like he's going to be the first overall pick in a lot of these like dynasty leagues, um like for rookies and all that. So um I was kind of hoping he landed there or just somewhere good.
00:03:40
Victor Gaudiosi
You mean? Like um I'm looking to see where he goes because that affects my teams later down the line.
00:03:41
Austin
Yeah.
Travis Hunter: A Multifaceted Talent
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Victor Gaudiosi
um But yeah, most of it is just like it's just seeing what like the experts think and then seeing like what actually happens.
00:03:58
Austin
Well, because then there's not there's not just straight up drafts too.
00:03:59
Victor Gaudiosi
ah
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Austin
There's trades and and shit like that.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yep, yep, they have trades and stuff. um There was one big trade at the beginning of the draft where the Jags and Browns like flipped their picks so that the Jags could take...
00:04:17
Victor Gaudiosi
ah This guy named Travis Hunter, who's basically the Shohei Otani of football. He was probably the best offensive and best defensive prospect in the draft last night.
00:04:30
Austin
What?
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, he plays both sides of the ball. He plays cornerback and wide receiver.
00:04:36
Austin
And he was at the top for both of those?
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Victor Gaudiosi
like Essentially, if he were only to stick at one position, he would be the top prospect in either one. He would either have been the best offensive player.
00:04:46
Austin
ah wow.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Maybe you could argue Gentis, like, right there with him. um But basically, he would he was by far the best wide receiver in the draft. But at Colorado, he played both positions.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Like, pretty much every... He played every down on both sides of the ball. um
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Austin
Oh, wow.
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Victor Gaudiosi
And was disgusting on both. Like, he won the best wide receiver and best cornerback award last year. and the same He won both at the same time.
00:05:13
Austin
That's got to be like disgustingly tiring to do that, to play both sides of the ball.
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Victor Gaudiosi
i think I think right now he's like <unk>s loving it i think because he's like a young guy. He's probably got a lot of life left in him, but I think when he gets to 30, it might.
00:05:24
Austin
Yeah.
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Austin
Yeah, it's going to hit him.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. A lot of teams have basically been saying in this process, like I think the Jags are one of the teams that are like, yeah, we're going to allow you to play both sides of the ball. But the way all the draft analysts and like everyone else has been talking about it, it's like, yeah, you want to play this guy.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Especially it depends on like fit. So like for a team like the Browns who are there at two and we're like projected to take him, they need a lot of wide receiver help.
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Austin
you
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Victor Gaudiosi
So it's like, okay, we'll play him on wide receiver like only or like the like he'll play offense like the whole game and then defense will only come in for like 20 or 30 plays.
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Austin
Still, like, to me, that seems like you're increasing his chance for injury by either 100% or, you know, 30, 40, 50% if you to put him on both sides of the ball for the entire game.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, but he he's basically said, like, if you guys don't allow me to play both sides of the ball, I will retire.
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Austin
That's hilarious.
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Victor Gaudiosi
He's like he like, playing both sides of the ball is something I, like, truly care about and need to do
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Austin
Interesting.
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Victor Gaudiosi
He's such a, like, by all accounts, he seems like such a like nice guy and, like, a fantastic dude that he literally only cares about, like, football. in like gaming.
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Austin
yeah
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Victor Gaudiosi
I guess fishing, I think fishing too. Someone said that last night at the the draft party. They were like, oh yeah, he he only cares about like this and fishing. So, I mean, no, you say what you got.
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Austin
Was he... go go ahead. Go ahead. and all All I was going to say was something unrelated. Was he wearing ah pink suit?
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yes, yes, that was him.
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Austin
Okay.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
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Austin
Because I saw that. That stood out. And then he had like a connection from like the vest to the jacket or something like that.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
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Austin
they They use that, like the drafts as an opportunity to wear crazy shit, right? like
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Victor Gaudiosi
yeah that i was gonna get into that too the fashion of the draft because some of it is like there is um i forgot who it was but this one prospect was basically wearing like you ever see the movie blade or like like wesley snipes his blade where he has like the long coat or whatever he was basically wearing that but like in a week like don't know i'm gonna try and find a photo of it um
00:07:23
Austin
Yeah.
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Austin
Yes.
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Austin
Nice.
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Victor Gaudiosi
But some of the some of the stuff they have, like, I like a lot of the outfits. I do think it's a fun, like, yeah like you said, it's it's an excuse to kind of express yourself and, like, wear a sick suit.
00:08:00
Victor Gaudiosi
Because for a lot of these guys, later they're not really going to be able to do that again.
00:08:05
Austin
Why not?
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Victor Gaudiosi
I mean, not not that they're to be able to, but, like, for that to be that publicized. Like, a lot of the times when, like, these kids, like, drive to, or like, when they come into the stadium, they're just wearing, like, sweats.
00:08:11
Austin
Oh.
00:08:16
Austin
Yeah.
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Victor Gaudiosi
They're not coming into the game wearing suits or whatever.
00:08:19
Austin
I was thinking it was like basketball where you see videos of those guys coming in to the stadium for the game a couple hours beforehand and they're wearing some crazy whatever the fuck.
00:08:30
Austin
Right. And i was like, well, okay. Every game you have the opportunity to wear whatever the hell you want.
00:08:34
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, I don't think the football players have tapped into that like that.
00:08:37
Austin
Yeah.
00:08:38
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, you're right. Basketball players come in wearing like really cool outfits.
00:08:42
Austin
Yeah.
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Victor Gaudiosi
I don't think football players have tapped into that. So this is what Abdul Carter was wearing. Trying let that focus.
00:08:47
Austin
What? Oh, yeah.
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Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
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Austin
Okay. I saw that.
00:08:50
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
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Austin
I saw that.
00:08:51
Victor Gaudiosi
and And I did just see now that um from TikTok that it is paying homage to his Muslim faith. um which like, but I guess it's like a garment and he probably made it like, look as sick as possible.
00:09:04
Austin
Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:05
Victor Gaudiosi
He was like, let me, let me get this thing dripped out. um One of my, I think I can't remember if it was jibs or someone else, but they were like, yeah, all these guys must be going to the same jeweler because they all were wearing like insanely iced out chains.
00:09:20
Austin
that that That was like, I expect that at this point.
00:09:23
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
NIL Deals: Transforming College Sports
00:09:25
Victor Gaudiosi
So do I like,
00:09:25
Austin
But also, the people that are going into the draft, have they're not getting paid, right?
00:09:30
Victor Gaudiosi
well Well, no. now Now they kind of are. like With NIL and stuff like that, like the landscape has kind of changed.
00:09:36
Austin
like they're getting Like they're getting paid for their likeness in in the college football too.
00:09:43
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, so for the football, like for the game, NCAA, everyone I think got like $500.
00:09:46
Austin
Yep.
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Victor Gaudiosi
five hundred I mean, it's not much, but like $500 and a free copy of the game. um And then some of these guys, like Travis Hunter's in a Dick's Sporting Goods commercial. Like, if you if you see it, like, it's the one where he splits into two people.
00:09:58
Austin
Yeah.
00:10:04
Victor Gaudiosi
um
00:10:04
Austin
don't think I saw that one, but still.
00:10:06
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. um Yeah, he's in a Dick's Sporting Goods commercial. I'm sure Abdul Carter has done a bunch of stuff around Pennsylvania for Penn State that has given him, you know, money. Like, all of these dudes have some sort of, like, brand deals or, like, sponsorships.
00:10:22
Austin
thats That's good, right?
00:10:22
Victor Gaudiosi
um
00:10:24
Austin
I mean, i can't – they should have been doing that for years.
00:10:24
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, and no, it's great.
00:10:27
Austin
I know that's been a controversy for a while, but these guys are making tons of money for those, for the colleges and for the NCAA.
00:10:29
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:10:34
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, there was actually kind of a funny, i guess not funny, but like there was a really, really hot button issue like a week or two ago where the Tennessee quarterback, um which i i'm i think everyone might be pronouncing it wrong. it's a I think he's Hawaiian or Polynesian, but his name is Nico Imolevia. Yeah.
00:10:59
Austin
No. Mm-hmm.
00:11:00
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. So he, I guess, requested more money from Tennessee. um He just brought them to the college football playoff, too.
00:11:11
Victor Gaudiosi
He got them to, I think, round one. I think they lost in the first round, but still, like they got to the playoff. And they I think we're paying him $4 million dollars to come to Tennessee. Yeah.
00:11:27
Victor Gaudiosi
Or they were paying him less than that, and I think he started requesting $4 million. dollars And they were like, no. Like, you signed, like, whatever n NIL contract. Like, this is what we're going to pay you.
00:11:37
Austin
Right.
00:11:37
Victor Gaudiosi
And I think his dad's argument was, well, like, you only signed him for 12 games of the regular season, and we made the playoffs. So now we want more money for the playoffs.
00:11:51
Victor Gaudiosi
And Tennessee basically was like... And this is like... I think there was kind of a... Because this has been happening in basketball, like all over college sports, too. And I truly, genuinely think the players deserve to be paid because what these colleges make versus.
00:12:07
Victor Gaudiosi
Like how much they're paying the players, it's vastly different, like.
00:12:11
Austin
Yeah, I agree.
00:12:12
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, I think I did like a ah report on this in like college where I mean, this is way before these guys were getting paid, but. And maybe the numbers have jumped up because it's been, you know, 10 years and, you know, inflation has gone up. So things cost more. But in like 2014, Alabama football by itself, just just football brought in one hundred and fifty million dollars in revenue for the school.
00:12:41
Victor Gaudiosi
And. While I do think those kids were kind of getting paid under the table illegally by Nick Saban, they were probably getting paid like $500,000. five hundred thousand dollars Which, you know, hey, that's still a good amount of money or whatever, but like they're generating.
00:12:51
Austin
Yeah.
00:12:54
Austin
Solid. Not proportional to what they're making overall.
00:12:58
Victor Gaudiosi
Exactly. They're generating $150 million dollars for this program. And then they were seeing on paper zero.
00:13:06
Austin
Yeah.
00:13:07
Victor Gaudiosi
So I do think college players should get paid, but I do think there was kind of this. I so i think something like this was bound to happen where someone requests way too much money.
00:13:18
Victor Gaudiosi
And the school's like, no, you can leave like you're not bigger than the program. Paying you that much would kind of fuck us over. So.
00:13:28
Austin
yeah
00:13:28
Victor Gaudiosi
You know, and so, yeah, they they basically told him, like, hey we're not going to pay you like you can leave. It's all right. Like you're no longer part of the program then.
00:13:36
Austin
Right, and did he leave?
00:13:37
Victor Gaudiosi
He did. He went to UCLA.
00:13:38
Austin
Oh, he did.
00:13:39
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:13:40
Austin
That's...
00:13:40
Victor Gaudiosi
um He went to UCLA for, I think, the $4 million dollars that he wanted. um But now the caveat of that is UCLA is a worse program right now.
00:13:51
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, Tennessee just made the playoff, and now he's going to a team that I think went, like, 7-6. Let me check UCLA football.
00:13:59
Austin
it's That's the other thing, too, is it was bound to happen that people were going to start trying to advocate for more now that they have access. But at the same time, you've got to know how to play the game, too.
00:14:10
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:11
Austin
Right. Like, don't don't put all your eggs in one basket, whatever, you know, insert whatever um trope that you want to hear for advice. Like. If you get in over your head and you're asking for too much, then you start to.
00:14:26
Austin
Have bad faith relationships with teams. And that spirals, especially if you're going to go into the the NFL, right, without having any, you know, any tribal understanding of how that works from my end.
00:14:31
Victor Gaudiosi
yeah
00:14:38
Austin
Like, it's true in any form of business.
00:14:42
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, i so UCLA went actually they went five and seven, so even worse. And um yeah, I think um
00:14:47
Austin
Okay.
00:14:53
Victor Gaudiosi
it shouldn't really count this way, but I think because of the way things are during the draft process, this is only going to be looked at as negative for you.
00:15:05
Victor Gaudiosi
Like you can play incredibly well at UCLA, but when it comes time to like trying to enter the NFL, every single one of these owners is going to like look at you and be like, oh, you just want the money. You don't care about football. You don't care about winning.
00:15:17
Austin
Right.
00:15:18
Victor Gaudiosi
You're just about the money. And it's going to probably tank your draft stock a little bit. And that was.
00:15:23
Austin
Yeah, because people want people want people that they can not easily manage, but they know that they're they're not going to have a hard time managing those people.
00:15:29
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:15:32
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, and if, like, the ultimate goal is winning, and you feel like someone's prioritizing another goal over winning, you know, you kind of look at that person sideways.
00:15:43
Austin
Right. if If I think that he's going to come in in the middle of the season and be like, yo, we just made the playoffs. I need more money. And then all of a sudden is willing to leave when we say no. Like, that's not the kind of reliability that I want.
00:15:54
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. um And it it also... um um I'm going to add this before I go back to a different point, but his brother also transferred to UCLA with him.
00:16:07
Austin
Oh, interesting.
00:16:07
Victor Gaudiosi
Um, and the team that he just left Arkansas is now requesting the money back because they gave him money and he hadn't even played.
00:16:16
Austin
Oh, really?
00:16:19
Victor Gaudiosi
He, he never played for the program.
00:16:21
Austin
give me it back.
00:16:22
Victor Gaudiosi
So they're like, yeah, we want like two, I think it's $200,000 back or something like that. Um, But yeah, I think we're going to see stuff like this happen. I mean, something like this helps, I would say, balance out the market a little bit.
00:16:37
Victor Gaudiosi
I think it helps kind of, in a way, control it. Like, I don't think he's undeserving of $4 million dollars or whatever, but I do think if you're... getting paid a certain amount from your team and then you're demanding more and saying, I won't play.
00:16:53
Victor Gaudiosi
i do think it sets a good precedent of being like, all right, well, we will move on without you and you can find a different team to play for that will give you that money.
00:17:00
Austin
Yeah, I mean, it's just like anything else at this point, right? Like you're giving them the freedom to get the money that they think that they deserve or that they actually deserve, right? Because I agree with you, they should get that money. But at the same time, if you don't understand how that side of the business works because you haven't had exposure to it, then you're going to learn, right? And unfortunately, a lot of people are probably going to make mistakes so that the later generations can benefit when they're on the way up And they can leverage all of that experience for their negotiating powers, right?
00:17:29
Austin
You just have to make a good case for yourself and you have to know when the timing is right. And
Parental Influence in Athletes' Careers
00:17:34
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. and he kind And you kind of have to, you, I think you have to have a good support system around you too, because a lot of the, a lot of the flack that's coming is like towards his dad for being like, I want to say stupid, but like demanding more money on top of what you just got, like, you know, kind of again, like kind of knowing the position that you're in
00:17:34
Austin
now that they're they're learning that.
00:17:40
Austin
yeah
00:17:58
Victor Gaudiosi
and It actually happened again, too, um in women's college basketball where this girl from South Carolina, um she right after the championship game, she like entered the portal and she, I think, is going to, I think, LSU or something like that. She's leaving South Carolina to go to LSU.
00:18:20
Victor Gaudiosi
um Her name's Michaela Fullwiley. She's a very good basketball player. um
00:18:26
Victor Gaudiosi
But I read something that it wasn't really her decision to leave. Her parents were pressuring her to get the bag. And either that was coming from South Carolina or, you know, pressuring her to go to the transfer portal to find someone else who's going to pay more. And she didn't really want to leave because South Carolina is like a top four.
00:18:49
Victor Gaudiosi
i would say top two. I mean, they literally just made the championship. It's like, but like when you're looking at like the landscape of things, they're a top four program. It's like Yukon, them, um I do think LSU is up there, so it's not like she's really downgrading the same way ah Nico Amalivia is downgrading.
00:19:07
Victor Gaudiosi
But um still, it's like I think you know she was kind of pressured by – again, this could be wrong, but what I read was her parents, and now she's leaving a program that she wanted to go to, to go to a different program and play.
00:19:23
Victor Gaudiosi
don't know.
00:19:26
Austin
I mean, i agree.
00:19:26
Victor Gaudiosi
I think that kind of sucks, but –
00:19:28
Austin
I mean, like, i feel like I will never know a parent's perspective until I am one. i can imagine that if I'm in, if I could try to put myself in their shoes, I see my kid playing a sport that is short lived sport and ah high risk for injury.
00:19:49
Austin
I'm going to probably have the same advice, right? Like go get the bag, get the money while you can. Who knows if you're going to be playing tomorrow, right? Right. But at the same time, you know, the chances of that are less likely. And it's like, just trust the process.
00:20:05
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:20:05
Austin
Right. But wild man, would you do that?
00:20:08
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:20:10
Austin
Would you tell your kid to get the money?
00:20:12
Victor Gaudiosi
Um, it depends. It's going to sound like cruel, but like if I didn't think my kid had a future in the sport, then I would say, yes, like go, go chase the bag.
00:20:24
Victor Gaudiosi
But if, if I, if my kid is like one of the top players in the, like the country at his sport or her sport, uh, then probably not. I'm going to yeah,
00:20:35
Victor Gaudiosi
get go to wherever you can win.
00:20:37
Austin
Yeah.
00:20:37
Austin
Right.
00:20:37
Victor Gaudiosi
You know, the money's going to follow.
00:20:39
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, if you go to, like, in my in my mind, if you the more you win, the more your popularity kind of grows, and the more NIL deals you can get from that.
00:20:53
Austin
right
00:20:53
Victor Gaudiosi
If you're popping off at, like, a no-name school, like, you might have some sort of notoriety, maybe in the local area, but, like, don't know, like Paige Beckers has like Gatorade commercials. You know what I mean?
00:21:09
Victor Gaudiosi
ah and like New Balance commercials, I think. Like, i don't know. Like, I think the more you win, the better off you are in the long run.
00:21:16
Austin
Yeah.
00:21:17
Victor Gaudiosi
But again, like I said, if my i thought if I thought my kids sucked at the sport, be like, yeah, dude, take whatever you can get.
00:21:22
Austin
Whatever money you can get
00:21:25
Victor Gaudiosi
Take whatever money you can get.
00:21:25
Austin
Like, no, we got
00:21:27
Victor Gaudiosi
Don't skip class. Like, you need your degree at this point.
00:21:30
Austin
Get your C.
00:21:31
Victor Gaudiosi
Like,
00:21:31
Austin
Get that money. We have loans to pay, so let's get this going.
00:21:34
Victor Gaudiosi
yeah exactly
00:21:39
Victor Gaudiosi
yeah that that i mean i think in my mind and it's it is funny because i think we had this argument with mike but it's like winning kind of trumps all for college when it's pro sports i don't think that really when it's pro sports it's like yeah i get your money like
00:21:59
Austin
Well, also, I agree, because at the same time, because I know it's probably going to sound hypocritical the way that we're talking about this right now versus how we were talking about it with Mike. But I do think that the amount of money that's made relative to the players only gets more egregious the higher up you go.
00:22:16
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:17
Austin
Right. And so yeah once you're in the NFL, like it's, I imagine that it makes more sense for you to try to go for the money because you're going to get not relatively the same experience, but you know, like there's much, there's a much higher chance that you're just a statistic.
00:22:17
Victor Gaudiosi
Like
00:22:33
Austin
You're just a number and you know, you can get traded the next day. You could get bumped the next day. you could get injured the next day. Like they don't care about you as much.
00:22:39
Victor Gaudiosi
yeah like winning I think winning is more important at a younger level. But yeah, once you make it pro, like, not that it doesn't matter.
00:22:45
Austin
Yeah.
00:22:49
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, it does matter. Like we argued before, but like, I don't know. If some, if the angels are willing to pay you $300 million dollars and you know that like, you might not ever see that kind of money.
00:23:03
Victor Gaudiosi
and think you take $300 million. dollars Like, yeah.
00:23:05
Austin
Well, yeah, and you're you're you're a higher, like you're a more popular commodity when you're at that level because when you're at the college level, there's so many more people that you have to compete against in order to get into, right, whatever the professional league is that you're trying to join.
00:23:13
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:23:23
Austin
And so you need the wins. You need the the the good statistics to stand out from the crowd so that people come and see you, right, the recruiters.
00:23:30
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:23:31
Austin
I'm assuming that this is how this works. Tell me if it's not, but like, you you need to make sure that you're standing out somehow. And in the only way, the surefire way to do that is be with like a winning team.
00:23:40
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, no, no, I i fully agree. um But yeah, um kind of back to the NFL draft, one of the biggest stories, um I know, I guess it kind of ties into this conversation with like personalities and what matters the most and and all that.
NFL Draft Surprises and Controversies
00:23:58
Victor Gaudiosi
But um one of the biggest storylines was Shador Sanders um falling out of the first round.
00:24:08
Austin
Okay.
00:24:08
Austin
Yes.
00:24:08
Victor Gaudiosi
And i don't know if you know anything about
00:24:11
Victor Gaudiosi
you know who deon sanders is he's yeah so it's his son ah they like deon coaches colorado his son played quarterback at colorado um so basically this draft was weird i didn't think these i knew quarterback was going like cam ward was the first overall pick um because the titans needed quarterback in any other scenario i think he may have been like
00:24:12
Austin
Oh, okay. and
00:24:36
Victor Gaudiosi
in the five to 10 best players in the draft, he wasn't like a top five talent in this draft, but because he's a quarterback, that's what the Titans needed. That's why he went one.
00:24:48
Austin
Okay.
00:24:48
Victor Gaudiosi
Everyone thought that Shador, I guess not everyone, everyone that I listened to was like, yeah, Shador might get picked 21 by the Steelers. And if not, then I don't really see any other team taking him in the first round unless someone trades up.
00:25:02
Victor Gaudiosi
Uh, A lot of these, like, it it was a very weak quarterback class. Not everyone is sold on these guys. um even Even Cam Ward, people aren't really sold on.
00:25:15
Victor Gaudiosi
So, I watched the ESPN feed last night, and they've had a guy named Mel Kiper for about 30 years. And this has, like, basically been his job, is doing the draft stuff.
00:25:29
Austin
Okay.
00:25:29
Victor Gaudiosi
And I don't know if it's something that just like comes with age or if, because again, I don't want to like criticize his evaluation or his like his process, but he had Shador ranked fifth in his overall prospect board. And, you know, I kind of thought that was wrong. A lot of people thought that was wrong.
00:25:53
Victor Gaudiosi
um And so as Shador was falling in the draft, And like the the landing spots were for him were either like the Giants at 3, the Saints at 9, the Steelers at 21. And if the Steelers didn't take him, then they were hoped like the the thought was that someone would trade back into the first round later to go grab him.
00:26:17
Austin
Right.
00:26:17
Victor Gaudiosi
So Mel Kuyper has him fifth overall. And as he is falling, Mel Kuyper is basically crashing out. being like, I don't understand why teams are passing on this guy.
00:26:30
Victor Gaudiosi
um He like went like literally like three or four times. He went into this rant about how like other teams have passed on quarterbacks before and they've turned out to be great. And he's like, he's like Tom Brady. Everyone passed on him. He was picked in the sixth round. Like ah Peyton Manning was ah the second overall pick over like under Ryan Leaf. And like, there's a bunch of like,
00:26:52
Victor Gaudiosi
I don't know, him trying to just like justify why he had him fifth. or like I don't know. I think Shadour could be fine in the NFL, but one of the reasons why I think he fell is he has, i don't want to say baggage, because I don't think that's really fair. I think by all accounts he's a good kid, um but there's so much media hype around Colorado and Deion that And the way like Dion kind of like talks and like his personality, I think is very off putting to some people.
00:27:27
Austin
Sure.
00:27:29
Victor Gaudiosi
And it kind of sets his son up for failure, unfortunately, at least in the media's presence eyes. I don't think, you know what I mean? Like I like i said, I think he'd be a good quarterback. If the Steelers took him, I would have been fine with it.
00:27:41
Austin
chair
00:27:42
Victor Gaudiosi
I wouldn't have really cared. um I think whatever they decide to do at their pick, I was fine with. There's a lot of holes on this team, I think. So it was whatever. But I think the way people perceive Dion and sometimes the way they perceive Shador affects, like, again, again i it just affects, like, people's thinking and, like, perception.
00:28:07
Victor Gaudiosi
like perception
00:28:09
Austin
Yeah, I mean, that isn't that why a lot of people when they're they're in those situations don't want to be associated with whoever they're their family member is that was previously in you know the the league or something like that because they want to get in without all of that baggage?
00:28:26
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, for for the most part, yeah. um I will say, i don't don't again, I don't like really keep up with Shador himself, so I don't know if that's like something he leaned away from or something he leaned into.
00:28:38
Victor Gaudiosi
um I've seen a couple like college stuff like college things where you know people were going at him for like the way he celebrated. One of his like celebrations when he would score a touchdown is the stadium would play his song.
00:28:52
Victor Gaudiosi
He released some sort of song.
00:28:56
Austin
Okay.
00:28:57
Victor Gaudiosi
And the stadium would play that every time he scored, and people were like, oh, he's you know playing his own music. That's pretty stupid. um And then he would point to his wrist. He would like go like this. And it was basically like talking like flexing his watch because he has like a really nice, expensive watch or whatever.
00:29:13
Austin
Yeah.
00:29:13
Victor Gaudiosi
And so people were like, oh, yeah, this dude's an arrogant prick. Which like I don't really think – don't really think – yeah.
00:29:16
Austin
Sounds like he is.
00:29:19
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:29:22
Austin
I mean, i don't know if it's tough to play your own music and like sing to your own stuff or if that's just being super arrogant.
00:29:31
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, I don't, like, listen, I don't know either, but that's, that's you know, some of the things people knock him for. But I guess the biggest part of all of this and stuff that I had seen, ah like, leading up to the draft is that he was bombing in interviews.
00:29:51
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, he was going into, like, interviews and people were like, yeah like, he's kind of arrogant. Like, um you know, this stuff, like, you know, like, we don't know what his, like,
00:29:59
Austin
um pi restrain right like what do people ah that that part always gets me it's like what do people expect like not you don't i'm not excusing you being an asshole but at the same time if you're of college age and all of a sudden you're getting all this attention and you start doing interviews and stuff like that no shit you're not going to know what to say or how to say it or play into like know what you you're what you're saying now is going to have an impact on in the future like
00:30:02
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:30:07
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:30:20
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:30:27
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, at the end of the day...
00:30:28
Austin
Come on, that that that can be excused on my end.
00:30:30
Victor Gaudiosi
these are kids, you know what I mean?
00:30:31
Austin
Right.
00:30:32
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, and I, and I fully agree with that. And a lot of the time, like, like, I think it's a lot of old people not understanding youth, I think is a big factor that comes into it.
00:30:43
Austin
Yeah.
00:30:45
Victor Gaudiosi
I also think, and this might be a little bit more, you know, kind of in the old days. And like, you know, again, I'm i'm not trying to make everything about race, but like, I think a lot of the time it's like old white guys not understanding like young black men.
00:31:01
Victor Gaudiosi
you know what I mean?
00:31:02
Austin
Yeah.
00:31:02
Victor Gaudiosi
Like not understand. Again, I just think it's one of those things where there is like kind of a cultural gap and a difference in like these people. And I don't think it's fully understood.
00:31:12
Victor Gaudiosi
And and some of these GMs ask ridiculous questions. Like I'm going to pull some stuff up because it is like Yeah. um And while while I'm pulling this up, I will say i am happy that yeah ESPN kind of dropped this for last night's draft.
00:31:29
Victor Gaudiosi
But they used to do, like, they would – some of the tidbits they would show – um would be like oh yeah like this player ran a 4-4 at the combine and like caught all these touchdowns or whatever and his mom also was addicted to crack for 16 years it's like i don't care like i don't need to know that dude i swear to god this is how yeah espn would be giving out their coverage they'd be like oh yeah like this guy like performed really well in the the college like uh championship game and this guy played for four years with like
00:31:48
Austin
What? What?
00:32:03
Victor Gaudiosi
76 starts also his dad's been in prison for uh six years it's like who gives a shit i don't care about any of that stuff
00:32:08
Austin
What? What's this shit? There's nothing to do with the football, man. That's wild.
00:32:13
Victor Gaudiosi
so they they've they've kind of dropped it because i think they they were getting like called out on social media for it a lot it's like guys we don't need to know this shit like that's fucked up
00:32:14
Austin
but
00:32:20
Austin
Right. But also at the same time for like ah for a league that has been so intertwined with like minority races um for the last however long.
00:32:34
Austin
Right. It's surprising that they still do that. But that just goes to show you it doesn't fucking matter.
00:32:41
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. So so here are some of the questions. This is from twenty eighteen. um I think and again, this might be unconfirmed, but one of the prospects that got drafted last night was like he said on record that one of the GMs like asked him like if he was an F slur or not.
00:32:58
Austin
What?
00:32:59
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, it's like, come on. Like, one, don't like you can't just phrase that in that way.
00:33:03
Austin
Right.
00:33:03
Victor Gaudiosi
And two, it's like you can't ask him if he's gay in general or not. That's crazy.
00:33:07
Austin
Yep.
00:33:08
Victor Gaudiosi
Who cares? I want him to play football well. I don't care about his sexual orientation.
00:33:12
Austin
Also, also illegal.
00:33:12
Victor Gaudiosi
That does not matter to me.
00:33:15
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, like...
00:33:15
Austin
It's also illegal for them to ask that.
00:33:18
Victor Gaudiosi
Okay, so here here are some of the questions that have been asked. This is an article that says, like, the 15 weirdest questions ever asked. Like, that have been, like, confirmed or said by, like, sources or whatnot.
00:33:32
Austin
yeah
00:33:33
Victor Gaudiosi
Do you find your mother attractive? Do you like men? What is your murder weapon of choice?
00:33:40
Austin
Interesting.
00:33:41
Victor Gaudiosi
ah
00:33:44
Victor Gaudiosi
ah Some of these are actually, like, not that bad. Like, this one's like, what team do you pick in Madden? I think that's fine.
00:33:48
Austin
Yes.
00:33:49
Victor Gaudiosi
That's kind of, like, a fun question, I guess. Yeah.
00:33:52
Austin
I mean, out of, out of like, take out of this context, what is your murder weapon of choice might actually be pretty telling.
00:34:00
Austin
Like, ah Besides the assumptions that that that go along with it and how charged that question is, i kind of would want to know what somebody's murder weapon of choice would be.
00:34:00
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:34:10
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Like Des Bryant um played wide receiver for the Cowboys for like, ah I think 10 years was a very good wide receiver.
00:34:21
Victor Gaudiosi
He was asked if his mom was a prostitute.
00:34:24
Austin
Jesus.
00:34:25
Victor Gaudiosi
Like ah this, this guy, Gerald McCoy, who was, he played in the NFL for again, a long time ah said, I was asked if I were a G string or a jock strap when I played.
00:34:38
Austin
Interesting.
00:34:39
Victor Gaudiosi
ah This guy said they asked me about when I lost my virginity. um Yeah, this one was, again, asking about sexual preference.
00:34:50
Austin
These are all coming from from GMs.
00:34:50
Victor Gaudiosi
ah
00:34:53
Victor Gaudiosi
These are all coming from GMs. Like, this is what they're asking in the draft process leading up to, like, either at the Combine when you're being... Because at the Combine, you interview with a lot of teams or whatever.
00:35:05
Victor Gaudiosi
Or it's, like, in the actual workouts right before the draft. So that's why when I hear stuff like, oh, he gave a terrible interview, I take it with a grain of salt because there's shit like this.
00:35:16
Austin
Right, because one side controls the narrative, that's why.
00:35:17
Victor Gaudiosi
Like... Yeah. And that's the other thing, too. It's, like, if you're going to say this about, like, a player... Put your fucking name on it. I'm so tired of these like anonymous like anonymous AFC coordinator or anonymous head coach said this. It's like, put your name on it.
00:35:34
Victor Gaudiosi
If you're going to say something, again, these are kids.
00:35:34
Austin
um
00:35:37
Victor Gaudiosi
You're shit-talking like a 20-year-old.
00:35:39
Austin
yep
00:35:40
Victor Gaudiosi
Put your name on it and say who you are. I'm tired of this anonymous stuff. Because if – I know it won't, but it's like, all right, if you truly believe that he gave a bad interview, you should have no problem saying the reasons why – like being known and saying the reasons why he gave a bad interview.
00:35:44
Austin
That will never happen.
00:35:55
Austin
That's the other thing, too. As somebody that's reporting on this, they have the power to to release that information. They know who their source is, but again, they're part of that system, too.
00:36:07
Austin
So, that's frustrating.
00:36:08
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. And and ah again, i just want to say, if these are the reported things, I can't imagine what hasn't been reported.
00:36:15
Austin
Right.
00:36:15
Victor Gaudiosi
That's also been asked in these processes.
00:36:17
Austin
Right.
00:36:18
Victor Gaudiosi
So I don't know. It's just like for me, when I hear that. I take it with a grain of salt, because I know these guys are just.
00:36:25
Austin
You know what?
00:36:26
Victor Gaudiosi
You're doing the dumbest shit in there.
00:36:26
Austin
Get your bag. Tell them you want $4 million. dollars
00:36:29
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Yeah. Who fucking cares about winning?
00:36:34
Austin
Listen, buddy, you give me $5 million dollars right now, I'll tell you whether or not I'm gay.
00:36:43
Victor Gaudiosi
oh man yeah i just i think it's ridiculous but yeah again you know i'm shit talking the process but i guess if all these teams were willing to pass on chador maybe there's a hint of truth
00:36:44
Austin
but Wild.
NFL Draft Parties: An Inside Look
00:36:57
Austin
Maybe.
00:36:57
Victor Gaudiosi
in you know that and you know i not that he again it's tough because he's a kid and he's like you know
00:37:07
Victor Gaudiosi
having a lot of fun. And i think again, you know, a lot of his dad's influence plays a part on him too, but i don't know. I felt like they, he didn't go to the draft because usually they invite like 30 guys to the draft themselves. So like when you get called, you can go on stage or whatnot.
00:37:26
Victor Gaudiosi
And a lot of people declined to do it. um I think especially after COVID where like everyone was just having like in-house parties and whatnot, it was kind of easier for, For um people like I think people realize like, oh, I could just stay home with my family and have like everyone I want.
00:37:41
Austin
Well, right.
00:37:42
Victor Gaudiosi
Like you can't have. I think you're like allowed eight people, maybe eight to ten people in your draft party. And it's like, well, know. I'd rather be by my friends and family than.
00:37:53
Austin
I'm assuming that whoever, this is probably a dumb question, but it's like, I'm assuming whoever they invite to the draft is expected to get drafted, right? Right.
00:38:03
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, they they expect those people to get drafted either on like, because it's three days. So round one is Thursday. Round two would be today, Friday.
00:38:15
Victor Gaudiosi
And then three through seven runs all day tomorrow. And they don't have any prospects for three through seven. like Like, usually you're they're you're expected to go within the first two.
00:38:26
Austin
ah
00:38:30
Austin
right
00:38:30
Victor Gaudiosi
If you're invited to the draft. um
00:38:35
Victor Gaudiosi
So,
00:38:37
Austin
Because that could be a worry, right? Like ah that you get invited and all of a sudden you have to wait until day three and even then you might not get I don't want to be on you for that.
00:38:39
Victor Gaudiosi
yeah.
00:38:46
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. I think especially for a draft like this, you know, with Shador, I completely understand why he chose to stay home because, like I said, there was three different landing spots for him in in the 32 picks, and if he didn't go in any of those three landing spots,
00:38:57
Austin
Yep.
00:39:03
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, he was moving out of the first round, probably, which is exactly what happened. um And even then, like, they had camera crews. Like, all these guys have camera crews at their house if they're at home, you know?
00:39:14
Austin
yeah
00:39:15
Victor Gaudiosi
But, you know, if you're there, they keep cutting to you. Like, oh, I wonder why he's falling. I wonder why he's not getting picked. And it's, like, got to be, like, fucking nerve-wracking and, like, sad.
00:39:26
Austin
It is, especially for like ah a 20 year old, right?
00:39:27
Victor Gaudiosi
And at least...
00:39:30
Austin
Like even younger sometimes, but.
00:39:30
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:39:33
Victor Gaudiosi
But yeah, the... Shador threw a party. party like Usually when people have him at a house or whatever, they're kind of just watching... they're They're all huddled up in the living room watching the TV.
00:39:49
Victor Gaudiosi
And the camera crew is next to the TV filming the reaction. Shador had an actual party where like people were like walking around, like you know hanging out and stuff.
00:39:52
Austin
Yeah.
00:39:58
Victor Gaudiosi
So I think, in my mind, that's a lot easier... of a scenario to deal with. I actually kind of like what he did because for me, if I'm in that scenario, I do not want the camera just directly on my face after every single pick where I'm not getting picked.
00:40:12
Austin
yeah
00:40:15
Victor Gaudiosi
I have the opportunity to walk away from the camera and go talk to other people. Whereas like Jackson Dart, who was another quarterback prospect in this draft, I think he walked away a couple of times too, but every time it cut into his home, it was just, everyone was around.
00:40:32
Victor Gaudiosi
the couch and the kitchen table or whatever. And it's like, that's gotta be so nerve wracking for all these quarterbacks. Cause I like people were like, Oh yeah, I think three quarterbacks go in the first round.
00:40:42
Victor Gaudiosi
But in my mind, when I was doing the process, I was like, I think only, I think it's just cam Ward and no one else. I don't think three other quarterbacks are going in here unless someone trades up late, which is what the giants did.
00:40:54
Austin
Okay.
00:40:54
Victor Gaudiosi
The giants traded up very late, like the 25th overall pick. And they took Jackson dart. which I think was another blow to Shador's ego a little bit um because he wasn't the he wasn't even the second quarterback taken.
00:41:05
Austin
Hmm.
00:41:08
Victor Gaudiosi
And then that really was like, oh, yeah, like no other quarterback is going because no one else needed one.
00:41:13
Austin
Sure.
00:41:15
Victor Gaudiosi
Once you get into the late 20s, those are the teams that have good quarterbacks because the later you pick, the better your team like the better your team is
00:41:22
Austin
Sure. Sure.
00:41:23
Victor Gaudiosi
so Uh, yeah, I don't know. I like, I think people gave him flack for having a party like that, but I actually think that's like a very smart thing to do.
00:41:34
Austin
Yeah. I mean, listen, otherwise, if you don't get it, you still have a good party going on in the background.
00:41:35
Victor Gaudiosi
can get away from the cameras.
00:41:39
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:41:39
Austin
Yeah.
00:41:40
Victor Gaudiosi
And I, and I saw he gave, he gave a speech at the end too. He was like, yeah, you know, it wasn't our day. ah you know, God has a plan for everything and and everyone. So tomorrow's the day.
00:41:53
Victor Gaudiosi
and um
00:41:55
Austin
We'll find out.
00:41:55
Victor Gaudiosi
He's like, yeah, he's like, thanks for everyone coming or whatever.
00:41:58
Austin
Appreciate the cameras being here for for me not to to get where I wanted to be.
00:42:00
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:42:03
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. um I will say about the Shador's party, one thing I did find kind of funny was that he had a wall of hats, right, where he thought he could go.
00:42:17
Victor Gaudiosi
And on the wall was also, like, the Buffalo Bills and the San Diego Chargers who were, like, They are locked up at quarterback. They do not need a quarterback at all. Like it's it was Josh Allen's like.
00:42:30
Austin
Yeah.
00:42:30
Victor Gaudiosi
And then Justin Herbert, which I like, don't know, for the listener, if you don't understand, it's like they're two they're two top six quarterbacks, essentially.
00:42:38
Austin
So you're like, you're he had the hats up there as like, I'm going to be a solid quarterback for the or backup quarterback for those teams.
00:42:44
Victor Gaudiosi
No, I it's i think it's one of those things where he's like yeah, i'm going to be the starter.
00:42:48
Austin
It's crazy.
00:42:49
Victor Gaudiosi
It's like you're not getting drafted to those. Maybe they just put those to like fill in the gaps because they had, I think, six rows of four hats.
00:42:55
Austin
Oh, okay.
00:42:56
Victor Gaudiosi
So you need to have, i guess, 24 hats up there to look normal. But like it is funny to throw those two up there.
00:43:01
Austin
Setting yourself up for failure. He has him as his one-two.
00:43:03
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. yeah They're at the top. Oh, man.
00:43:10
Austin
That's crazy. Oh, man. It's like every every time he doesn't get it, he's like taking a hat off. A hat off the wall. And they're like this. Watching him.
00:43:21
Austin
It's hilarious.
00:43:21
Victor Gaudiosi
Oh man. I think he goes relatively early like today. Um, I think the Browns who have the first pick of the second round, I think they're a good landing spot for him. They need a quarterback.
00:43:35
Austin
Yep.
00:43:35
Victor Gaudiosi
Um, the Steelers don't have a second round pick, which kind of sucks. I could have seen him or a different quarterback taken here, but ah know. Maybe they trade into the second round. We'll see. But, um,
00:43:49
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, i don't I also think if he doesn't go here, again, I think it's the same landing spots. It's probably the Browns, the Saints, and the Steelers are going to be looking to get this guy at some point.
00:44:00
Austin
You think think if he doesn't go today, Dion is going have like a crash out moment?
00:44:06
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, I don't know. i don't know if he's been saying anything this morning. I haven't checked. You know, obviously, I think I woke up, went to Duncan and immediately hit record on this. So I haven't looked at like any news. But ah yeah, I do think that because I saw one of the things I did, you know, when I was in the Duncan line, um I was like on Reddit.
00:44:27
Victor Gaudiosi
And one of the things I saw was like, oh, old tweet from Deion Sanders resurfacing. Where. I guess someone... Like, again, this is what happens.
00:44:37
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, people love to dunk on these guys when they're doing bad because they don't like Dion as a personality or whatever. And they, again, kind of transition that hate to the sun,
00:44:44
Austin
Right.
00:44:49
Austin
Which again is why people don't want to be associated even if you know they ended on good terms in the league or they have a good relationship like it's high stakes.
00:44:49
Victor Gaudiosi
i
00:44:59
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. And um like someone was going at Shador and, you know, Dion and Dion quote tweeted and was like, yeah, my son's going top five. What's your son doing?
00:45:11
Austin
Oh Jesus.
00:45:12
Victor Gaudiosi
And then like a bunch of like LOLs after it. And then there's a community note on it, which I don't know. You you don't you really use Twitter, right?
00:45:22
Victor Gaudiosi
So like, but do you know what a community note is or or no?
00:45:23
Austin
Oh, not that much.
00:45:26
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. So a community note is basically if someone tweets out something and it's like wrong or stupid, they correct it with a note.
00:45:35
Austin
Oh, they correct it.
00:45:38
Victor Gaudiosi
Not Twitter. Users, like Twitter users can do it and it gets voted on.
00:45:42
Austin
Yeah.
00:45:42
Victor Gaudiosi
And there's, I guess there is like a panel or like some sort of AI bot or whatever checking these things.
00:45:48
Austin
Yeah.
00:45:48
Victor Gaudiosi
And if it is found to be like factual or like, you know, have some sort of con like, like same thing with like tweets, missing context, like community notes can add the context of why this is being tweeted or whatever.
00:45:58
Austin
Sure, sure.
00:46:00
Victor Gaudiosi
They put a community note under that t tweet and said, it said Shador Sanders did not go top five. And that's like kind of like, i think I think a lot of people have been like retweeting it and like screenshotting it and like showing it because it's, again, it's an easy way to dunk on them.
WrestleMania: Evolution and Spectacle
00:46:17
Victor Gaudiosi
Like,
00:46:17
Austin
Yeah, which is also why it's so wild to me that people tweet shit like that. Because can come back up. He could not go top five, and then it's there for the world to see.
00:46:26
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:31
Austin
Whatever.
00:46:31
Victor Gaudiosi
And um I mean, and I think the tide has kind of changed. I think in past drafts, quarterback needy teams like the Giants and Browns both needed quarterbacks and they they were there at two and three.
00:46:51
Victor Gaudiosi
antitans And Titans, and they took a quarterback one. But I think in other drafts, maybe like 10 years ago, 15 years ago, all three guys would have been taken.
00:47:00
Austin
Mm-hmm.
00:47:01
Victor Gaudiosi
um But I think people realize now, it's like, okay, these guys... talent wise aren't worth taking, especially when there's like, like the first three, like the, the first three talent wise guys, I think we're Travis Hunter, the guy who plays both positions, like both sides of the ball, Abdul Carter, who's an insanely great, like edge rush guy, which is like very vital and, you know, trying to sack the quarterback.
00:47:30
Victor Gaudiosi
And then Ashton Jenty, who's like an insane running back.
00:47:36
Victor Gaudiosi
I think teams are now wired to take top talent rather than taking a quarterback just because they need a quarterback.
00:47:46
Austin
That's good. Sure.
00:47:48
Victor Gaudiosi
And I think that yeah i think that's a good process. Not forcing yourself to take a quarterback who might suck and taking a different positional need. Taking the best player at ah and actual like another positional need, I would say. Because quarterback is still very vital to the game, obviously.
00:48:03
Victor Gaudiosi
um But like the Steelers did this in 2021 where they took Kenny Pickett just because they needed a quarterback, even though he wasn't really like he was if he were to get drafted last year last year was a great quarterback class.
00:48:16
Victor Gaudiosi
There were six quarterbacks taken in the first 12 picks.
00:48:19
Austin
Oh wow, OK. Yep.
00:48:20
Victor Gaudiosi
I think if Kenny Pickett were in that class last year, he would have been like the eighth quarterback. But so again, and he and it's like it's lucky for him because he got you know he got paid for it. you know
00:48:30
Austin
ye
00:48:30
Victor Gaudiosi
being Getting drafted in the first round gets you paid. So
00:48:37
Victor Gaudiosi
I think the Steelers did what they had to when taking Kenny Pickett, but I think they now realize, and they didn't make the same mistake last night. They didn't take Shador Sanders or Jackson Dart because they felt like they needed a quarterback.
00:48:48
Victor Gaudiosi
They went with a different positional need. With a better, in my mind, a better prospect than what these quarterbacks are too.
00:48:56
Austin
Sure.
00:48:57
Victor Gaudiosi
And they'll just get quarterbacks somewhere else.
00:49:01
Austin
Yeah, I mean...
00:49:01
Victor Gaudiosi
So I think more teams are kind of leaning that way now.
00:49:07
Austin
That's good, in my opinion. it It takes some of the spectacle out of it and makes it more strategic.
00:49:09
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:49:12
Austin
like That's how it should be.
00:49:15
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, you should be drafting the best player available, not just, yeah, just not taking a guy because you need a quarterback.
00:49:15
Austin
ah
00:49:18
Austin
Shocker. you
00:49:22
Austin
Right.
00:49:25
Austin
But... i if It's like the the conspiracy person in my mind also thinks that sometimes like teams do this because they want the controversy.
00:49:38
Austin
And sometimes... It feels like some people are the sacrificial lambs to spark the conversation for the next you know two or three days to get people to pay attention and say, oh, this guy that we really thought was going in all of a sudden didn't get it, right?
00:49:58
Austin
And now people are talking about it and it brings attention.
00:49:58
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:50:00
Austin
I don't know if it goes that deep, but for anything that's televised, it's hard for me not to think that that's an angle that people take to get viewership on whatever it is that they're broadcasting.
00:50:11
Victor Gaudiosi
um I don't think it's from the teams. I definitely think it's from the draft like analyst perspective, like the the guy like Mel Kiper I'm talking about. Like, I think he he keeps hyping this up and he keeps talking about Shador.
00:50:20
Austin
They're like, pipe it up.
00:50:24
Victor Gaudiosi
Like when Jackson Dart got taken. he basically made it about Shador. He didn't make it about Jackson dark or like talking about him that much. He made it about Shador being like, Oh yeah. Like they should have taken Shador instead. Like he's the number five guy, my, my board, like he's very good. And I think teams are going to really be upset that they passed on him.
00:50:44
Victor Gaudiosi
And they kept doing that like every 10 minutes in between picks. Cause there's, there's a gap between these picks. It's usually like 10, 15 minutes. um Cause you know, you have to cut in time for commercials and all this bullshit.
00:50:57
Victor Gaudiosi
um But they would bring him up a lot, and I think that is part of the spectacle. And that's what's trying to drum up the like the clicks, the attention, and stuff like that.
00:51:06
Austin
Right.
00:51:06
Victor Gaudiosi
um Which I think is like... Again, it makes good for TV, know what I mean? But for me, I'm like, Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up about it.
00:51:17
Austin
Oh yeah. it's
00:51:17
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:51:18
Austin
It's like, it could be, it could be half the time that it is, but gotta love it.
00:51:21
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:51:25
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:51:26
Austin
It's a spectacle.
00:51:27
Victor Gaudiosi
yeah
00:51:28
Austin
And that's why, and not for, I realize now that we've been talking about football this entire time, but I did want to talk about the the WrestleMania stuff that I saw it do.
00:51:33
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:51:38
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:51:38
Austin
Because I'm not, ah again, this like this podcast is like a bunch of topics that I have zero exposure to. I went and I watched the highlights for the 41st WrestleMania show.
00:51:49
Austin
forty first wrestlemania Wild. Wild things that I saw on there. i was like, is this how it really is? First of all, a ton of people in that fucking stadium.
00:52:00
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:52:01
Austin
An insane amount of people. Where was that?
00:52:03
Victor Gaudiosi
I want to say Vegas. Yeah, it was Vegas. It was the Raiders stadium. I think Allegiant is, I think Allegiant stadium is what it's called.
00:52:11
Austin
Okay.
00:52:11
Victor Gaudiosi
But yeah.
00:52:12
Austin
Do you know how many people it holds? Because it was packed.
00:52:15
Victor Gaudiosi
Let's see. I think Allegiant holds like a hundred thousand. I could be wrong.
00:52:19
Austin
Jesus.
00:52:20
Victor Gaudiosi
Allegiant stadium. Pasadena. Okay. 65 for regular events. 72 for like super bowls and stuff like that.
00:52:33
Austin
That's a lot of people.
00:52:35
Victor Gaudiosi
It is, man. WrestleMania.
00:52:36
Austin
But... Did
00:52:37
Victor Gaudiosi
Let's see. Let's see how many people they had. i have no, I typed in WrestleMania, Allegiant stadium population. That's not. Okay.
00:52:47
Victor Gaudiosi
So it's two nights.
00:52:48
Austin
I get you there?
00:52:49
Victor Gaudiosi
It's two nights, right? Saturday and a Sunday combined attendance. That's the word I was looking for. Attendance. Jesus. 124,000 people.
00:52:59
Austin
That's wild.
00:53:00
Victor Gaudiosi
So they filled that stadium twice, sixty five and sixty five essentially like
00:53:02
Austin
Yeah. Okay. So those highlights were from two different days.
00:53:07
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, so...
00:53:08
Austin
Okay. Cause that was the other thing that I was thinking. I was like, this is a lot of events.
00:53:12
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, and I was kind of thinking about it when I was driving to Dunkin'. was like, ah, man, like, it just feels like a cash grab sometimes when you stretch out an event. Because WrestleMania is just to be one night.
00:53:24
Austin
Yeah.
00:53:25
Victor Gaudiosi
It feels like a cash grab when you do two nights and you, like, try and, you know, milk it for what it's worth. And then I kind of thought about it where it's like, It's not like football or, you know, it's not like other sports where you kind of play a playoff to get to the championship game because WrestleMania is essentially the w WWE Super Bowl.
00:53:43
Austin
Right.
00:53:44
Victor Gaudiosi
You know, so it's not like. You know, obviously there are storylines and matches that do lead to you getting to WrestleMania, but. The WWE has such a big roster.
00:53:58
Victor Gaudiosi
And so, you know, at first I was like, it's kind of dumb because it just feels like a cash grab that you're doing this like two different days. But then I thought about and i was like well, for the fans, it makes sense because i don't know what the pricing is. i don't really, you know, I'm probably never going to a WrestleMania. So it's like, I don't really, I'm never going to check on pricing or whatever. But if you're flying to like a different city, right? Like if you're traveling to Las Vegas for this,
00:54:29
Victor Gaudiosi
it's probably better that you have two different events because it makes the weekend a little bit more worth it for you to travel there. And it's like, well, I couldn't get tickets to Saturday ah saturday night, but I got tickets to Sunday night.
00:54:41
Austin
Well,
00:54:41
Victor Gaudiosi
You know what i mean?
00:54:41
Victor Gaudiosi
So like, I'm able to go to one of the, like, there's more opportunity for fans to go. Like, you know, like i said, 124,000 people. um And it also gives the wrestlers like more opportunities to wrestle. Cause now you have two different nights.
00:54:58
Austin
yeah, I mean, and they had one-on-one, they had tag team events. Like, there was a ton that they threw in there.
00:55:02
Victor Gaudiosi
Yep.
00:55:05
Austin
i mean, but Travis Scott was there.
00:55:08
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:55:08
Austin
Like if you have time to throw Travis Scott in your lineup, like you've got, you you know, you've got a lot of time.
00:55:09
Victor Gaudiosi
i still
00:55:15
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. He performed. And then I think at a different, a different wrestling like event, cause they have pay-per-views like all the time. I think like once a month, maybe they have a pay-per-view or once every six weeks.
00:55:24
Austin
yeah
00:55:28
Victor Gaudiosi
um But at one of the previous pay-per-views, Travis Scott showed up and was part of like ah attacking a guy.
00:55:38
Austin
But that's the thing. First of all, I watched that. I was like, this is so dumb. When I first saw that he was like starting to come on, I was like, what is going on? And then he started to get into the fight. I was like, you know what?
00:55:50
Austin
I would watch this. like I want to see some random ass people just get like, bring Drake in there. I want to see Drake go in there and fight somebody like Drake out of nowhere.
00:55:59
Victor Gaudiosi
and Drake and Kendrick in in the squared circle.
00:56:05
Austin
I don't know. It just seems like so crazy. And then the other thing that I picked up too was like, i get that it's, everything's coordinated, right? But there were some crazy stunts that were going on in there. The one, one that I saw, and I have no idea whether going to know what I'm talking about, but i think it was one of the wrestlers that's popular. It's just a black hair, black lipstick.
00:56:32
Victor Gaudiosi
Oh yeah, Rhea Ripley.
00:56:33
Austin
I think that's her.
00:56:34
Victor Gaudiosi
Like go goth woman.
00:56:35
Austin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:35
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:56:36
Austin
I think it was her that she did like, whoever her opponent was, was laying down, like that she had taken her out. She was laying down and she went up onto the ropes and she was doing, she was going to do a back flop essentially down to land on her.
00:56:53
Austin
She went to go do that. And the woman that was on the ground stuck her feet up so that when, when that lady came down, it it landed right here.
00:57:04
Austin
And she fell backwards. I was like, she could have killed her, right? Like, that could have so easily gone wrong.
00:57:04
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:57:09
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:57:11
Austin
Like, I know they rehearse and everything. It's just wild. Like, it's like circus.
00:57:16
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. I mean, for much as much as it gets for being like fake, it's still, they're still high performance athletes.
00:57:21
Austin
Yeah.
00:57:25
Austin
Yeah.
00:57:25
Victor Gaudiosi
End of the day, like they are still doing some crazy stuff that like guys who play baseball probably aren't doing.
00:57:33
Austin
No.
00:57:33
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, like you're telling me ah like ah Pablo Sandoval is go be able to get up on the top rope and and jump to some like, no, like these guys are very much athletes.
00:57:34
Austin
No.
00:57:42
Austin
No. Yeah, no.
00:57:47
Victor Gaudiosi
They they are. core i don't know how they coordinate it. But, yeah, like you said, it's like they they know how to kind of maneuver their bodies. like they're still taking the hits like those hits still happen but they they have ways to like lessen the blow and they have maneuvers to like make sure that they're not really hurting themselves um which is hilarious because there have been so many times where i've like tried wrestling moves on my brother without knowing how like they actually do it and i could have like killed like like um i don't know if you've ever seen like the undertaker
00:57:57
Austin
Yeah.
00:58:03
Austin
Yeah.
00:58:23
Austin
Yeah.
00:58:23
Victor Gaudiosi
Um, you know, like his finishing move was a, it's called the tombstone pile driver.
00:58:26
Austin
Like a choke. Yeah.
00:58:28
Victor Gaudiosi
ah well he does like a choke slam, but it's a two, like the tombstone pile driver is basically, he takes someone puts them upside down and holds them like this and then drops them on their head.
00:58:36
Austin
and
00:58:38
Victor Gaudiosi
And I didn't realize that like, it's his knees taking the brunt of the blow. His knees are landing first in like you, the, his opponent makes believe that the head is hitting the mat.
00:58:43
Austin
Yeah.
00:58:49
Austin
Right.
00:58:50
Victor Gaudiosi
But then like I'm trying those moves out on my friends and stuff. and I'm like, oh my god. You could just break someone's neck doing this without having any like proper... like ah like any any sort of training.
00:59:00
Austin
but that That is, there's some old video clips that I used to watch. It was like backyard wrestling or something like that.
00:59:11
Austin
And it it didn't even look like, it just looked like people were straight up trying to kill each other.
00:59:15
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
00:59:16
Austin
Like they're breaking glass over each other and they're flipping onto like broken glass or tacks on the ground or something like that.
00:59:16
Victor Gaudiosi
Oh, yeah.
00:59:21
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. I was just going to bring that up. One of these like wrestling videos, like a former wrestler like popped up in my YouTube feed and I was like, I'm intrigued by this. Like, cause I used to be huge into wrestling as a kid.
00:59:33
Austin
yeah
00:59:33
Victor Gaudiosi
um So was like, let me, let me learn some of like the, like the tricks of the trade or whatever. And he was like, yeah, you know, with, with tables, like there's a sweet spot. So the tables will just fold.
00:59:46
Austin
Right.
00:59:46
Victor Gaudiosi
Like you're going through the table, but it will break. You're not at, it's like, it's not hard. that you're like hurting your back when it breaks, like it it will just crumple. um And there are a couple other things where he's like, yeah, like this, like when you're getting it, like taking a chair shot, like it's probably your arm take, like, you know, you're getting hit in the head, but you're like putting your arm up right before you get hit or whatever.
00:59:54
Austin
right
01:00:06
Victor Gaudiosi
And it like takes some of the brunt of the blow or, you know, the chairs are a little bit softened in the middle. So if you're getting ah head to the head, it's more like a rubber rather than a full metal.
01:00:15
Austin
right or Or they're like pre-cracked or something like that.
01:00:19
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. And same thing with, like, I think those light tubes, like, um like they'll take the little for fluorescent light bulbs and like hit it across someone's back. They like crack immediately. But he was like.
01:00:28
Austin
yeah
01:00:30
Victor Gaudiosi
The tax, those are real. We can't pick the tax. And he's like, honestly, the best way to like take he's like, if you know you're taking tax, you know, to your back or whatever, the best way to do it is actually like, untensing your body, like, relaxing, and then making yourself as big as possible so that you take the, most like, the surface, he's, like, it feels like a lot of pinches, but the more that you take, actually, and, like, more spread out they are, the less they hurt.
01:00:59
Victor Gaudiosi
So they're, like, just trying to just make yourself as big as possible and take as many as you can so that way the pain isn't localized in one area. Yeah.
01:01:07
Austin
Yeah. I got to imagine that, like, when you see it, you're like, how do people do that? And the amount of blood sometimes, I'm like, oh, how are they doing that?
01:01:18
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
01:01:20
Austin
How are they faking that? But it's got to be real. Like, they're just fucking up and actually cutting each other.
01:01:26
Victor Gaudiosi
Well, well, some, so something that I learned is that there's like, uh, almost like bubble packs, I guess.
01:01:34
Austin
oh
01:01:35
Victor Gaudiosi
So they are putting them like in their hairline essentially, and like cutting the bubble and that's like some of the blood. Um, and, Some of them, and again, this is like some hardcore type shit.
01:01:49
Victor Gaudiosi
They're cutting themselves with razors. Like they'll nick themselves at the hairline with a razor ah to draw like real blood or something like that. That's something I've, yeah.
01:01:58
Austin
Your head bleeds a lot.
01:02:01
Victor Gaudiosi
That's something I've seen is like, yeah, like ah they'll like nick themselves purposely to get blood, um which is insane. Like i I would never want to do that, but it is part of like the spectacle.
01:02:09
Austin
and was That's wild.
01:02:14
Austin
Yeah.
01:02:14
Victor Gaudiosi
um
01:02:15
Austin
That's commitment.
Wrestling Dangers and Cultural Reflections
01:02:17
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
01:02:17
Austin
And then you see like there's ones where guys have been like permanently injured because they're doing like the the cage matches and they'll like jump off from the top of the cages or something like that.
01:02:27
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
01:02:28
Austin
Just wild shit.
01:02:30
Victor Gaudiosi
Ridiculous.
01:02:30
Austin
But anyways, I was just so, so like, cause they do the clips and the clips are one after the other.
01:02:37
Victor Gaudiosi
yeah
01:02:37
Austin
And it's just like one crazy thing after another. I'm like, what, what happened here? There's another one where they like, uh, i don't know if it was Cody Rhodes or not, but somebody speared somebody on top of the announcement table.
01:02:52
Austin
And the like the the part that got me was that the announcers were like, and he just spared him. yeah I'm like, you know you are overselling this, but I like low key enjoying it right now.
01:03:04
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
01:03:07
Austin
Oh my God. What is going on? It's like craziness.
01:03:13
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. um
01:03:14
Austin
John Cena doesn't look like he should be there anymore, though, as a side note.
01:03:16
Victor Gaudiosi
No, this this is his last year.
01:03:19
Austin
Okay, so they let him win for his last year.
01:03:19
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Yeah. For his last year, he's going out as a bad guy. He's like, I've always wanted to be a bad guy.
01:03:26
Austin
Saw that.
01:03:27
Victor Gaudiosi
But he's literally like the face of the w WWE and like a lot of kids love him and stuff. Which actually, I don't even know if kids love him anymore because it's someone that like we grew up with, essentially.
01:03:36
Austin
Yeah, yeah.
01:03:37
Victor Gaudiosi
Cena was coming up as like we were kids and now you know we're kind of older and so is he. So you know he he's like, yeah, this the if I'm going out, I want to be a bad guy. I want to be a heel, is what they call it in wrestling.
01:03:48
Austin
areas.
01:03:51
Victor Gaudiosi
um So yeah, they they let him win the championship because it ends up It broke a record, I think Ric Flair's record, for most times holding a world championship.
01:04:01
Austin
Yep. Yeah, 17 was what John Cena got.
01:04:03
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. So that's really cool to see. um Speaking of, ah I think we probably got to close it out.
01:04:12
Austin
Yeah, pretty soon.
01:04:13
Victor Gaudiosi
we We were like, yo, we're going to do 30 minutes, right? now here we are.
01:04:16
Austin
Here we are trying to contain it to an hour.
01:04:17
Victor Gaudiosi
but Yeah. um I know, because this has to go up by 12. Yeah.
01:04:22
Austin
yeah
01:04:26
Victor Gaudiosi
So there there are two things I'll i'll end on here with with the wrestling. um First one, did you see the like Stone Cold Steve Austin's ah quad accident?
01:04:38
Austin
No.
01:04:39
Victor Gaudiosi
Okay. So he drove a quad up onto the ramp.
01:04:41
Austin
Oh, no.
01:04:45
Austin
Oh, oh, oh, at WrestleMania.
01:04:47
Victor Gaudiosi
At WrestleMania, yeah, yeah. No, no, he didn't get to like a real quad.
01:04:48
Austin
Okay. um
01:04:49
Victor Gaudiosi
I should have clarified it's at WrestleMania.
01:04:51
Austin
I was like, oh no.
01:04:51
Victor Gaudiosi
He didn't get to like a real quad accident. He's fine.
01:04:55
Austin
Okay.
01:04:55
Victor Gaudiosi
ah but it But it kind of relates to getting the bag like we were talking about earlier. So I guess there was a misfire on him even getting up to the ramp. Like there was a little like he missed the ramp point to go down.
01:05:08
Victor Gaudiosi
Like he had to go up from the side and then down the ramp.
01:05:09
Austin
Okay.
01:05:12
Victor Gaudiosi
And he missed the up part and they had to like maneuver him around. So it was already awkward.
01:05:16
Austin
Nice.
01:05:16
Victor Gaudiosi
And then when he comes down the ramp, you know, everyone's like, yeah, this is sick. Like he's cheering, you know, he's, you know, you know, putting on a show or whatever.
01:05:25
Austin
Sure.
01:05:25
Victor Gaudiosi
Um, so even at big events, they never make the distance between the ring and the wall like bigger. It's always like a consistent, like maybe five feet, I would say.
01:05:40
Austin
OK. Wait, when you say the wall, what do you mean?
01:05:43
Victor Gaudiosi
Like the barrier wall to like the fans.
01:05:46
Austin
Oh, OK.
01:05:46
Victor Gaudiosi
So like the distance between the wall and the the ring, it's never really more than like five, six feet.
01:05:47
Austin
got
01:05:51
Austin
Yeah.
01:05:51
Victor Gaudiosi
And I think it's because, you know, if fans are paying, And I think the ticket price for the wall was like $16,000. Yeah,
01:05:58
Austin
Oh my God.
01:05:59
Victor Gaudiosi
yeah I think I could be wrong. I'm just this is something someone said to me after this incident because there is an incident.
01:06:06
Austin
Oh, I have note. I have a good note for this after you finish.
01:06:08
Victor Gaudiosi
OK.
01:06:09
Austin
Okay, go ahead.
01:06:10
Victor Gaudiosi
So you want the fans to be as close as possible if they're paying high money for these seats. You know, fair enough.
01:06:13
Austin
Sure.
01:06:14
Victor Gaudiosi
But I feel like if you have a stunt with a quad driving through the wall in the ring, you should probably expand the size just a little bit.
01:06:23
Austin
Or temporarily take those people out of there.
01:06:26
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. and And we're going to get to that.
01:06:28
Austin
Oh, Jesus.
01:06:30
Victor Gaudiosi
So Stone Cold comes around. Kind of whipping the damn thing in between the wall and the ring comes around the announcer's table. And as he's going to take the next left, because it's again, it's a square, it's a small square.
01:06:44
Victor Gaudiosi
He takes it a little bit too wide. Yeah. And crashes into the barrier.
01:06:49
Austin
Oh, my God.
01:06:50
Victor Gaudiosi
And there's enough padding. Like, literally everyone around the the crash site was, like, fine. Except one woman immediately fell to the ground.
01:07:01
Victor Gaudiosi
And she had to be stretchered out. And I don't know if that is her chasing the bag. Because that is something i would 100% do.
01:07:10
Austin
100%. Are you kidding
01:07:10
Victor Gaudiosi
if If that happened to me, if that happened to me, i'm I'm falling. I'm saying I have whiplash. I'm saying my neck hurts.
01:07:16
Austin
Yeah.
01:07:17
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, you...
01:07:18
Austin
Listen, i'll judge even if I'm not injured, that's one of those things where you like seriously consider i should like I should fall real awkward right now so that I might actually hurt myself.
01:07:23
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
01:07:26
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Say I have a concussion or something.
01:07:27
Austin
Yeah.
01:07:28
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, I hit my head wrong.
01:07:29
Austin
and
01:07:31
Victor Gaudiosi
Like, and and a lot of people are like, oh my God, she's faking it. And I'm like, yeah. but i i Listen, maybe she is, maybe she's not. But even if she is, I'm doing the exact same thing.
01:07:44
Austin
hundred percent 100% if people don't see the opportunity that arises from that I'm sorry not real bad they don't want it that bad
01:07:45
Victor Gaudiosi
um'm dropp I'm dropping like a fly if that comes near me.
01:07:53
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, they're not real bad chasers. That's what I'll say. Yeah. Because even if you... Even if they... Like, WrestleMania or the w WWE is like, hey, please don't sue us. We'll give you WrestleMania, ah like, wall-side tickets for, like, the next 10 years.
01:08:08
Victor Gaudiosi
That's an easy trade. I'm taking that all day.
01:08:10
Austin
you
01:08:11
Victor Gaudiosi
Why not, you know?
01:08:12
Austin
Apparently that's, that's you know, $150, $160,000 deal.
01:08:16
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, exactly. So it's like... I don't know. I think some people were giving her flack because they're like oh my gosh, she didn't even get hit. like The wall took the brunt of the bery or like the ah hit, and it's like, doesn't matter.
01:08:29
Victor Gaudiosi
um I'm dropping like a fly. That comes towards me, I'm dropping like a fly.
01:08:33
Austin
100%. would do the exact same thing.
01:08:34
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
01:08:36
Austin
But in the same light, right, when when they did that spear on top of the announcer table, the one of the wrestlers, and again, I don't know anybody's names, but he went over to clear off the announcement table.
01:08:52
Austin
And I guess they have the flat flat part of the table, and then they have a secondary like shelf that's on top of it to hide all the wiring.
01:08:54
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Yep.
01:08:57
Victor Gaudiosi
yeah
01:08:59
Austin
Right.
01:09:00
Victor Gaudiosi
yep
01:09:00
Austin
And he went up there and he took that like that like shelf and he just threw it to get rid of it. And he definitely smacked into like three people in the crowd.
01:09:13
Austin
Just caught us straight for no reason. And if you watch the clip, there's like people and they're like... what the fuck and they gloss over it they don't even pay attention to that they're just like oh my god he threw the table and and then that's it and then they move on to the next fucking thing and i'm like those people definitely got hurt right like that's like that's like even if it's pressure you know the the condensed wood that shit hurts
01:09:34
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Yeah.
01:09:40
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. i'm I'm doing just like the wrestlers. I'm packing a little razor blade and I'm cutting myself at the top of it.
01:09:44
Austin
yeah um You don't even need that.
01:09:46
Victor Gaudiosi
I'd be oh my God.
01:09:47
Austin
You could just take pieces from the actual table just like cut yourself real quick.
01:09:50
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
01:09:53
Austin
Got to commit, man. You got to know where you're at.
01:09:54
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Exactly.
01:09:55
Austin
Be part of the spectacle.
01:09:57
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. You got to know.
01:09:59
Austin
Yeah.
01:10:00
Victor Gaudiosi
These guys don't want to, they don't want to grind for it. They don't.
01:10:02
Austin
They don't. They don't want to put in the effort to get the bag, and that's their fault, you know?
01:10:04
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. keep People don't want to work anymore. That's...
01:10:08
Austin
They don't want to work anymore, right? Where are the people that go to the stadiums to injure themselves for the bag, right?
01:10:14
Victor Gaudiosi
Exactly. Exactly.
01:10:16
Austin
That culture has died in America, man.
01:10:21
Austin
That's probably a good place to stop.
01:10:23
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, i I had one more thing, I think, relating to WrestleMania, but now I can't even think about it.
01:10:31
Victor Gaudiosi
Oh, man.
01:10:32
Austin
That's crazy.
01:10:32
Victor Gaudiosi
What?
01:10:33
Austin
i was I was about to say, where's the self-harm culture in America? And I stopped.
01:10:37
Victor Gaudiosi
Oh, jeez. Yeah,
01:10:38
Austin
but and Even though I just said it. was like, that's probably going to get taken out of context.
01:10:41
Victor Gaudiosi
I know.
01:10:44
Victor Gaudiosi
Oh, man.
01:10:46
Austin
That's funny.
01:10:48
Victor Gaudiosi
ah
01:10:48
Austin
Well, this turned out to be interesting. I i got a lot of education today.
01:10:51
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
Podcast Humor and Farewell
01:10:53
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. um Turns out we don't need Mike.
01:10:57
Austin
turns out we don't need Mike. yeah Actually, can we get some feedback today? Tell us whether or not we can just kind of rip Mike out of this because you know what?
01:11:03
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
01:11:04
Austin
He gets paid too much as it is.
01:11:05
Victor Gaudiosi
Exactly.
01:11:07
Austin
And we could really use that cash
01:11:07
Victor Gaudiosi
So, Mike, when you're listening to this on the plane ride back.
01:11:12
Austin
Just know this is it. We're not letting you know beyond this.
01:11:13
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Yeah. We're not recording on Sunday.
01:11:16
Austin
Yeah, we're not. Well, we are.
01:11:18
Victor Gaudiosi
Well, yeah, we are, but you're not.
01:11:20
Austin
Yeah, you're not. This is our your official um firing over on air.
01:11:26
Victor Gaudiosi
Mate, he's going to be so easy's he's going to come back.
01:11:28
Austin
He is.
01:11:30
Victor Gaudiosi
He's like, you motherfuckers.
01:11:31
Austin
Well, everybody watch next episode.
01:11:32
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah.
01:11:34
Austin
Mike will come in and he'll be like, you guys can't get rid of me. The people said that they really like me, that they come here to watch me
01:11:41
Victor Gaudiosi
that's That's exactly what I'll say.
01:11:43
Austin
That's it. That's
01:11:45
Victor Gaudiosi
All right, man. Well, this has been fun.
01:11:46
Austin
good talking to you.
01:11:47
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. um Everyone ah like and subscribe. ah Leave a five star review, please. ah No one star reviews. You actually can't leave a one star review on this podcast. Apple forbids it.
01:12:04
Victor Gaudiosi
And so do I. So.
01:12:06
Austin
We worked out that deal.
01:12:06
Victor Gaudiosi
ah
01:12:07
Austin
no one-star reviews, so don't even try it.
01:12:08
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. we're We're paying Apple a lot of money to make sure that happens. So only only five stars.
01:12:14
Austin
and if And if you yeah if you break that, then we will have to start going to WrestleMania and hurting ourselves.
01:12:21
Victor Gaudiosi
see Yeah.
01:12:26
Victor Gaudiosi
Oh, man. All right. we We will see you guys next week.
01:12:29
Austin
Yep, talk to y'all then.
01:12:32
Victor Gaudiosi
I think I used the wrong outro music. I think Mike made...
01:12:34
Austin
You used intro music for that?
01:12:35
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah. Who cares? It doesn't matter.
01:12:38
Austin
This is like Mike saying goodbye right now.
01:12:40
Victor Gaudiosi
Yeah, we're doing this for Mike.