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EP 39: Mom Brain
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Ever feel like you would lose your head if it wasn’t attached to your body? You’re probably suffering from “MOM BRAIN” and we’re here to tell you: It’s not as awful as it feels sometimes. Candace and Whitney share some of their personal experiences with “mom brain” that will make you feel less alone.
Plus, Whitney and Candace share some hilarious stories from college spring break that we can’t stop giggling about.
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Transcript
Introduction to the Mom Group Chat Podcast
00:00:07
Speaker
There's no right way to do it. Oh, we're gonna get into it.
00:00:14
Speaker
What up moms? I'm Whitney and I'm here with my best friend Candice and this is the mom group chat podcast. What's up? Hello. We are also joined by on the side here that you can't see in the video, but we are here with Evie girl as well. I just wanted to preface that in case anyone hears a grunt or a coup, it's most likely a grunt. She's like a little grunty baby. She's way gruntier than Alice was.
00:00:42
Speaker
She's a good girl. She's been joining us a couple of times. Yeah. And you would never know. She is mostly good. As long as I keep this bouncer going, you can't tell. But I'm just so if you see my shoulder like moving and grooving, it's just me keeping this baby bouncing. One of Candice's arms is jacked and the other one's a spaghetti noodle. Literally.
College Memories and Spring Break Adventures
00:01:05
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We were just like kind of reminiscing since it's springtime and spring break is happening.
00:01:11
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We were like, well, we've never really like told stories of Candice and I in college, which we don't really remember a lot of them, but I will say we spent many a spring breaks together. Yeah. And it made us think about the time that we, I guess we were, were we in, we were in Sarasota, but we like went on a trip to Disney world to Epcot one day. Yeah.
00:01:36
Speaker
And like what a difference it was like back then versus now, even though I haven't been with my kids to Disney, but well, let's be real, I probably like the same at Epcot, but well, OK, not only was the Epcot experience different because it definitely is. Actually, I don't know. I drink around the world with my Q1 moms last February and it was still a shit show like we were.
00:01:58
Speaker
Like I blacked out at Epcot like a year ago. So it's still the same, but I will say like just the whole experience of like, I don't know if you remember that day. So Sarasota is like a good two and a half hour drive from Orlando. Cause it's like, you have to go through Tampa and then to get to Orlando. I don't remember like the drive.
00:02:22
Speaker
literally like I think we were out the night before because it's obvious it's obviously spring break like we're going out okay and we were out and about in Sarasota probably until like 2 or 3 a.m. like I don't think we went to bed and in order some background here my uncle worked for Disney and was getting us all in for free so we had to be there to meet him at the gates like it wasn't like oh we'll get there when we get there it was like
00:02:48
Speaker
We have to be there at 9 a.m. or whatever. So we had to leave Sarasota. Looking back now, it felt so early at the time, but it was probably like 7.30. Yeah. But at the time, it felt like 5 a.m. But we were so drunk when we woke up.
00:03:07
Speaker
I was probably drunk driving. I should probably cut that part out because I don't want anyone to judge me. I was fine. I remember we stopped at McDonald's on the way or we stopped somewhere to get breakfast because we were like we need to sober up like on this way because also we were going to get there and start drinking. So it was just oh my God. I mean that drive I remember being like in the car like
00:03:35
Speaker
Poor Candace drove us everywhere, like all the time in college. I did. I was like, everyone's driver. You had the best car for it. I'm sorry. I was fortunate for you, but you could pile so many people in your car. My good old red Ford Escape.
00:03:50
Speaker
Oh man. Missed that baby. Loved that car. I know. Good times in there. But just thinking like, was that actually, was that the trip where we met up with Vinny? That was the first time I met Vinny. Probably. Yeah. Which she ended up marrying the bloke, but
00:04:08
Speaker
They were down there for spring break as well. And like we went out with him and his swim team buddies like the night before or at some point. And yeah, it was St. Patrick's Day. So I don't know exactly like where that fell, but it was on that same trip is when we like went out with Vinny and his swim friends.
00:04:27
Speaker
Yeah. And I'm going to get a roll tide. Yeah. And I am going to cut this part out, but I'm going to say it just for us to giggle about is I made out with his friend. Literally like I ended up marrying him, but I made out with his friends because he had a girlfriend. Does he know that?
00:04:50
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know that I've ever explicitly like said that. It's just funny now, like looking back, like you would pregame to go out at like 11 and I'm just like, oh my God, I cannot fathom fricking doing that now. What a nightmare.
00:05:05
Speaker
But we would all pregame at the house, like, oh, my God, one of our best friends live or is from Sarasota. So we'd always go down there for spring break. And she just had the hookup. She had a little boat. We'd go out drinking on the boat. The boat was Red Rocket, which was hilarious, like who names their boat that it was just good times. I almost shit on that boat, too. What is wrong with me?
00:05:28
Speaker
Oh my God. This is actually one of my favorite Whitney stories. And I don't know if you want me to tell this, but it was so funny. I want you to. I'm not ashamed. We were out on the boat, like at like party cove or wherever, you know, where you like anchor the boat and everyone's like drinking and socializing and whatever.
00:05:45
Speaker
Whitney, I assume, had the day after drinking shits, okay? She started to tell us, okay, I have to use the restroom. We're not anywhere near, we're in the middle of the ocean, okay? There's no public restrooms. And usually it's UP in the ocean, okay? And Alina's being really clear, we're not gonna pack everything up and go, so do what you gotta do, I don't know.
00:06:13
Speaker
And Whitney, I look back at her and without even blinking an eye, Whitney starts to like squat off the end of the boat. Like she was going to drop a deuce off the end of the boat. And that was when Alina was like, okay, whoa, like we'll go.
00:06:35
Speaker
It was like one of those like sweaty, like we've got to go. It was one of those moments where I think Alina thought that her saying that we weren't going to go was going to prompt you to just be like, okay, I'm going to hold it. And you were like, well, a girl's got to do what a girl's got to do.
00:06:53
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We did end up. Don't worry, guys. We did not shit in the ocean. We ended up going to like a nearby like beach bar, which I'm sure was not the best bathroom. There was probably some sandy, salty, stinky, like those. But thank you for letting me not have to go in the ocean.
00:07:15
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I feel like I have that issue a lot when I drink that much because the same thing happened at Epcot. Like what is wrong with my belly? Oh my God. This is okay. Do you know those things that those stories that happen like in college or just in your life? That's like one of the most quotable moments. And then for the rest of your life, you're saying that quote. So this story is one of those quotes. So we get to Epcot.
00:07:42
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We, like I said, we meet my uncle, we all get in and you know, it's spring break time at Disney. So there's, it's, we know it's going to be a little busier. So we be aligned to Soren, which at the time back in what 2010, 2011 was like, it was new ish. And we're like, we need to get to Soren and ride that first. The lines won't be crazy.
00:08:05
Speaker
So we get to Soren, we're all just stepping into our hangovers. Our drunkness has subsided from the night before, and we're all like, oh shit. Literally. Yeah, we're like, oh my god, I am not well. We're in line for what? Was it like two and a half hours or something insane? No, we were in line for like 40 minutes.
00:08:28
Speaker
Well, it felt like a lifetime. So we were waiting in line and all of a sudden, first of all, we're all just farting. Literally, there's a fart cloud around our group. People on either side of it. How many of us were there? Was there like five of us? It was like fart cloud fest 2010.
00:08:54
Speaker
Oh my God, I'm going to cry. So we're sitting there and again, Whitney is like, I got to go. And so if you've ever been to Soren, like it's obviously all like flight themed. And so all the people who are like manning the line, like the Disney employees are dressed like flight attendants. Okay. And so we get up to a point in the line where there's like a break to where the
00:09:20
Speaker
The line attendee is like telling you which way to go. And Whitney is panicking that she's got a shit. And she looks at this flight attendant Disney worker and she goes, excuse me, ma'am, I'm going to need the first flight out of here.
00:09:40
Speaker
Oh my God. And also at this point, we definitely have like the hangover giggles. Like I could not stop laughing that whole day. And then now like this, I'm sure Mackenzie and Desi and all the, I'm sure everyone else also quotes this. Like I say, I still say to this day all the time, we're going to need the first flight out of here.
00:10:03
Speaker
Oh my God, I like ran to the bathroom after and like just skyrocketed off the toilet. Like, oh my God, it was miserable and you're hot and uh, and your cousin was with us. You know what? He was a really good sport. He was so fun. Um, he met us there and he's like our age and a male presence joined the group. And so we were all like, Oh my God, like a boys with us. And.
00:10:32
Speaker
I'm shitting my brains out. Yeah, but we all charmed him from the beginning. He loved us and he thought we were all so funny and I think he had the best time. Also, going back to thinking about college times and spring break, I am so grateful that we did not have Snapchat and
00:10:59
Speaker
Like Instagram really didn't come around until what our senior year, junior year. And even then it didn't have stories. It was just like a place you posted pictures. I am so grateful that Snapchat and those things did not exist during our spring break. And yeah, Snapchat was junior year.
00:11:24
Speaker
It came out. Yeah. And we used it a lot. Like I remember Vine being big and Facebook. Yeah. There's big albums and upon albums of our spring break on Facebook. But don't go look for them. Yeah.
00:11:41
Speaker
Our clothing. Well, yeah, number one, our clothing and like I was looking because you know, Facebook shares your memories and like our maybe our sophomore year popped up of our spring break and I have like this bracelet that says badass and I'm like holding it up and I'm like
00:11:59
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drunk like, I'm a badass when really like I'm the furthest thing from. So just a different time. Man. That made me laugh. Oh my God.
The Humorous Reality of Mom Brain
00:12:11
Speaker
Same. I got tears. I know that's probably why I have mom brain now is from all my blackouts and brownouts that I experienced.
00:12:20
Speaker
college. That brings us to our topic of mom brain and I love that you made the joke it's from Oliver. But I know that you found an article on it and I feel like I don't know if am I ever gonna get back to normal because I feel like I've had mom brain for two and a half years now.
00:12:43
Speaker
Yeah, so I was going to start by saying like this is a subject Whitney and I chatted about probably over the last like two weeks because there've been some like moments that I've had and I know Whitney has had that you're like, what the fuck is wrong with me? Like I can't recall anything and I feel like my brain is mush and
00:13:06
Speaker
I think one of the things that's hardest for me is that before kids, I was a pretty like put together person and like well-spoken and. Oh, you still are, but I know you mean. I feel like I was sharp. Okay. I feel like I was sharp and quick witted and like, you know, and now that I've had kids, it's just a little dull, you know, it's like,
00:13:34
Speaker
I used to be a sharp pencil and now I've whittled down to a dull... That's how I feel. Last week we had Alice's little birthday party just for family or whatever and I had to run a bunch of errands.
00:13:53
Speaker
And in my day of running errands, I missed a turn to turn into this shopping center that had where I needed to go. I missed it, just kept driving. It took literally multiple blocks for me to realize I had completely passed where I needed to go. And then the craziest thing is I turned around to be like, oh my God, what the hell is wrong with me? I just missed the turn. And then I drove past it again on my way back.
00:14:23
Speaker
Oh no. I literally, that was when I messaged you, and I was like, what is wrong with me? And then I retaliated with my story of, I would say I really like to be on top of celebrities and
00:14:42
Speaker
I don't know, Chris always makes- Yeah, pop culture girl, he's like, Chris makes me feel like I know too much. And honestly, I feel like I'm on a pedestal when I talk to him. He's always like, how do you know that? How do you know that's someone's brother and was in this movie? And I'm just like, I just know. It's just things girls know that are in the pop culture. So I would like to say I'm somewhat of a savant, but- We're in the know. We're in the know.
00:15:10
Speaker
I'm in the know. And so I was talking to my nanny and she was talking about Megan Fox's podcast and I actually had not heard anything of it, but then obviously now there's so much out about it because it was on call her daddy. And at the time I was like, Oh, cool. Like Megan Fox, I said, who, who is she married to Jason Sudeikas? And she was like, no, that was, um,
00:15:32
Speaker
Olivia and I was like Olivia and she said Olivia Wilde I said no Yeah, I was thinking Olivia Munn. I was like, who was she married? Who was Megan Fox married to I was like, who was it? And she's I was like that guy from what show and I was like, oh my god I can't fucking think she said Brian Austin Green and I was like, oh, yeah, he was in and she was like, oh
00:15:53
Speaker
90210, I'm like, oh my God, like help me, help myself. I'm like, I'm on the cusp of knowing, like I knew, but I couldn't get the words out of my mouth. So then I was embarrassed. I was like, now I look like I don't know what I'm talking about. That article I read about mom brain specifically mentions like that one of the things that moms struggle with postpartum is verbal recall.
00:16:20
Speaker
And so it's literally, so I'm going to shout out Mackenzie again, because Mackenzie always talks about how there are like the way she describes it. And I think it's so accurate is that in your brain, there's like a bunch of little elves in there, like little people. And in your brain is like basically a big, huge room with a bunch of files. Okay. So when, like, for example, when you're thinking of Megan Fox,
00:16:44
Speaker
And you're like, who is she married to? All the little people in your brain are like looking through the files and they're like, oh my God, Megan Fox, Megan Fox. I know who she was married to. And they're trying to find the Megan Fox file, you know? And one of the people is like, I got it. And then they open it up and it's like Brian Austin Green. And then you're like, oh yeah.
00:17:02
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like my elves in my head are slower, you know, like they've had too much to drink or there's maybe less of them. Like some of them have died. I don't know. They're on break.
00:17:17
Speaker
Yeah, they're all out to lunch and they're having a hard time finding the files. I don't know what it is. There's days where I'll say if I'm busier at work and I'm stimulated by talking to other people and having conversations, I'm on that day.
00:17:39
Speaker
I don't feel like I have mom brain as much, but if I'm having a slower day where it's just me and the kids, my brain is gone. I'm going to chalk that up to overstimulation for sure. I just think there's just so much chaos going on. It's like my brain protecting itself. It shuts down.
00:18:01
Speaker
All right. I'm like, I just need to not think for a second because I'm overstimulated. Um, does this happen to you? Then he gets frustrated with me sometimes. Like, so especially at night, I feel like when he gets home from work. That is like our like recap time of the day. Like he'll tell me about his day. I'll tell me about, or we'll just talk about things that like need to get done or whatever.
00:18:30
Speaker
But that is 100% from like 4.30 to 7.30 is like over simulation time for me. Yes, that's the worst time. It's the worst time. And so when he's asking me a question of like, maybe it's something for this weekend or something, but at the same time, Alice is saying, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom, and Evie's grunting in her swing.
00:18:57
Speaker
And then the dog is licking itself and I'm focused on that sound driving me nuts. And then I pause because either I couldn't process what he said or the answer doesn't come to me right away. He'll look at me like, what the fuck is wrong with you? And he gets frustrated with me and I'm like,
00:19:15
Speaker
Dude, you don't understand. Like I'm so over simulated right now that like I can't. Can we talk about this after everyone goes to bed? Like, exactly. I can't do it. Exactly. It's so true. Like those are the worst hours of the day. Like by the time I get one of them to sleep, because Chris and I switch off every night, like we take turns. I just collapse in the bed and I am just like that.
00:19:44
Speaker
Today drained me, you know. Yeah, like I just can't like yesterday. He was so excited to hear about the interview that you and I did. And I would tell him I'd be like, so and then great and be like, right. And I'd stop and wait. And then I'd be like, and then he'd be like, and so I was like, I will tell you later, like while he's eating dinner, like
00:20:10
Speaker
He's sucking the joy out of me telling you this story because now I can't concentrate on what I'm telling you. And I know that Chris is losing concentration. So I'm like, let's cap this. It's just gotten so hard. And Graydon kind of talks nonstop. I can barely send like a voice note with him around. It happened this morning. She tried to send me a voice note. And in the background, I can't even remember what he was saying. But he was just like, every time you tried to talk, he was like,
00:20:41
Speaker
and saying something. And then it was funny because Alice was in the car with me and she was listening to the voice note with me. And after it ended, she said, that's funny. Yeah. And Candace texted me that Alice thought it was funny. I said, I'm glad somebody thinks so because I am going to, I don't even know. But yeah, he's just an over stimulation station for me. So.
00:21:07
Speaker
Yeah, it definitely contributes to the mom brain of it all. I think it's so hard. And again, I feel like we talk about the identity shift of motherhood all the time. And there are so many different aspects of it. We just talked about it in our hobbies episode.
00:21:28
Speaker
We talk about the identity shift of motherhood a lot. We just talked about it in our hobbies episode. The concept of this mom brain or mom fog or whatever has been one of the hardest parts of the identity shift into motherhood.
00:21:46
Speaker
It's like I have to accept that in certain ways, my brain isn't as sharp as it used to be. But in other ways, it's almost like sharper with certain things. I have so much more on my plate than I used to. I always try to remember that the reason I'm not so sharp is I used to be holding three plates and now I'm holding 17.
00:22:13
Speaker
Yeah, I mean that's so true. It's like what they say like give a mother an hour and she'll get so much done. That's why like whenever I finally get all the kids dropped off and I have help like I just dive and I put all my energy into work.
00:22:31
Speaker
just because I finally have the time to sit down and do it and oh my gosh the days where like there's a wrench thrown in the plan and like we're so kind of structured when you have a newborn and a toddler like schedule is how you thrive and when the schedule gets messed up it's just like oh no mom brain and overstimulation overload like
00:22:57
Speaker
It's hard. It's so hard. I feel like I'm not my best version of myself when I'm feeling that way. Abigail Tucker, who is the author of a book called Mom Jeans, Inside the New Science of Our Ancient Maternal Instinct, she found that mommy brain is not just a figment of imagination.
00:23:19
Speaker
that the hormones of pregnancy, childbirth, and breastfeeding, which I think is important to note. Breastfeeding also causes your body to create all these hormones. I feel like people don't realize that, but they prompt a host of genetic changes that ultimately shift our brain architecture.
00:23:35
Speaker
There's a kind of metamorphosis that invisibly happens inside of us. Studies have shown that pregnancy results in a loss of gray matter in mother's brain areas involved in social cognition. And this is when she said they moms have trouble with verbal recall and the kind of skills that are in the fancy parts of the brain.
00:23:57
Speaker
You know, she says many women are motivated to get back to their pre-pregnancy bodies, and it's not possible to return to our pre-pregnancy brains, which I think is interesting.
00:24:09
Speaker
And that can sound really scary, she says. When people think your brain changes, it's scary. The brain is a scary place. It's an unknown. But she talks about how over time, those changes actually end up being beneficial and add to the plasticity of your brain and how your brain becomes more malleable in a good way.
00:24:33
Speaker
And that's why moms are so on top of their shit is because of this structural change in their brains, which I think is so interesting.
00:24:44
Speaker
Yeah, I would say I would say I'm not lacking in like the schedule part of it all because that's how we keep the world going around. Like I'm on top of that. I'm on top of like his behaviors. Like I'm more proactive than reactive with him. That's called executive functioning. I know from my psychology days. So moms are great, have excellent like executive functioning, which is like schedules, time management, like all that stuff.
00:25:13
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That's like the mom brain doesn't affect me in that area whatsoever. It's it's probably just like the socialization. And yeah, just kind of like what you said, recalling.
00:25:27
Speaker
memories or certain things and like, and why is it when you get older, you kind of, you start to forget everyone's last name. And if it changes on Facebook, you're like, well, that memory gone forever. You got married. How dare you not put your old last name as your middle name? Cause now I don't remember what it was.
00:25:47
Speaker
What is up with that? I struggle with that so much. If I'll go to look someone up from high school and I'm like, I'll never be able to find you because I don't know. I don't remember at all. That's okay. That's just because we went to a huge college. I could recall people's last names in high school, but college, I'm like, oh no. We did it the other day.
00:26:14
Speaker
Yeah. We were talking about somebody and we're like, we knew her new last name, which is odd because normally we know their old last name, but we knew her new last name. We're like, what was it? I find personally like this, the people from Alabama aren't as hard because a lot of them got married super young being from Alabama. So I feel like I've seen their married names longer. I have a story about Candace.
00:26:43
Speaker
Another memory lane. Calling me out. Oh my God. We went to our roommate Julia's wedding in St. Louis and Candice made the reservations. There was four of us staying in a room and I got there first. So I was like, Oh, I'll just check us in or whatever. And she was like, cool, cool. I put it under your name. Like go and check in.
00:27:06
Speaker
And so I go up there and I'm like, Hey, checking in for Whitney Williams. And they were like, Oh, we can't find you on the reservation. And so I was like, Candace Cole, like, uh, and they're like, no, she's not in here. I'm like, what the heck? And I like, I'm calling Candace and like, dude, they can't find her reservation. Like what's happening? She put it as my maiden name.
00:27:29
Speaker
And I've been married for three years. I'm sorry, but you are the organ in my head forever. I was like, oh, Candace, you were in my wedding. What do you mean?
00:27:45
Speaker
Oh my gosh, you know what it was? Is that and I remember after that happened, it was when I finally changed your contact name in my phone. I was like, it's time. I got to get this Whitney organ out of my head. And but I my God, I felt so bad. Were you ever able to check in? I can't even I can't remember. Yeah, because I was like, luckily, that's my, you know, middle name. So I was able to show my ID and be like, look, this is what happened.
00:28:12
Speaker
Yeah, it wasn't like that big of a deal, but I felt like when you got married, it wasn't hard for me to switch your name for me, which is weird. Yeah, that is weird because I feel like I mean, don't be wrong, I love Donnelly, you know, love being a Donnelly, but I loved my name, Candice Cole. Like, I'm sorry, but it just sounded so good. I know. And now I'm dubbed up.
00:28:39
Speaker
I know. So we love in a. Oh, God. This is a speaking of. Oh, no. What's the word when you. I'm not going to have. Don't ask me. Don't ask me. That's not going to come up relation. That's not right. That can't be right. I can't be right. Alliteration.
00:28:59
Speaker
Is that it? I'm not going to agree or disagree. So the elves in my brain found the file, but they're not sure if it's the right one. It's just happened. I'm assuming you would probably know because you lived with a CC longer. Well, yeah, then I have with a WW. So.
00:29:20
Speaker
I'm going to assume you're right. It is a liberation. Woo. I remembered a word, everyone. We're here. We did it. One thing I was going to say is about mom brain that and I think you can relate to me and I think a lot of people will. Do you ever like spend a day with your mom and you're like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, do you know anything like or they're like.
00:29:45
Speaker
I'm like, I, I'm worried about like there's, there's genuinely days. I'm sorry, mom. I know you listened to this. I love you so much, but there are times where I spend the day with her and I'm like, are you okay? Like, I feel like she can't remember anything or like she'll ask me the same question like five times. I wonder if that's just cause like, like what I said, like if I'm not doing something and it's just me like living in my thoughts, like you start to forget stuff and I wonder.
00:30:14
Speaker
if that's what's going on or just, you know, they're aging. It's a sad part of life. Yeah. Like I get frustrated with her, but at the same time, I'm a little like sympathetic because I'm like, I see it happening to me. You know, I know you can't help me. It's a glimpse into my future of Alice being like, what the fuck is wrong with you, mom? Yeah. But as you can't remember anything as like the kids, you humble your parent and you make fun of them.
00:30:41
Speaker
And like, yeah, you just and then you feel bad because it hurts their feelings. And they're like, they take it so seriously. And you're like, oh, my God, why are we in our feelings like?
00:30:53
Speaker
Yeah, I was just joking. Yeah, I'm just kidding. But oh, well, that's just like we said, a part of life and they've had mom brain for a very long time.
Counteracting Mom Brain and Embracing Motherhood
00:31:05
Speaker
Yeah. If it's still a thing, I do think some things that like help mom brain are adult conversations like, you know, I always feel sharpest if I like have to go meet a client or
00:31:21
Speaker
like have to go to like an adult party or something, not like, you know, some drinking thing, but if I have to like go to a dinner party where I have to have conversations, I leave and I'm like, okay, I still got it a little bit, I think. You know? Yeah, but it's just like you said earlier, like when I spend a day completely with the kids and I'm in like over simulation land for eight hours,
00:31:51
Speaker
No one's home at the end. Like, no, I think also, yeah, just just working in general and like sending emails. And I I've kind of brought back reading into my life and just like reading and like seeing words that I normally don't say or use and like looking them up. I'm like, oh, that's what that meant. And like people will be using it in day to day life. And I've just skimmed over it and never really listened to what they were saying. And I'm just like, oh,
00:32:17
Speaker
That's what they meant. So just learning and growing your brain continuously will help, which sounds so dumb. Obviously learning helps. I think this is one of those moments where I wish Shannon was here so bad to give her stay-at-home mom perspective because I think- Yes. She's still the smartest of frickin' tack.
00:32:40
Speaker
like Shannon was so good at like keeping her mind sharp even though she was like a stay-at-home mom and it was something we talked about all the time like how she it would be so easy for her to like fall into like toddler land and or baby land or wherever but she like never did she always was like reading and like not even just like reading like smut or whatever she was reading like
00:33:05
Speaker
She was always working out her brain and I wish she could I wish she was here to give us some tips of Like the best way to do that because I feel like she was so good at that, but I always think about how I don't know she
00:33:23
Speaker
Just anything, any podcasts we're doing, I'm like, I wonder what her perspective would be on this. I think about that all the time. Me too. Me too. Like I know she would be the one also like looking up articles and like trying to figure out like science and stats about it, which I love.
00:33:42
Speaker
I feel like I try to fill those shoes and I'm not as good at it. You're amazing. And I'm the one that just rolls in like, what are we doing today, guys? No. No. First of all, you've had a morning today. Yeah. Honestly, the fact that you're able to have a coherent conversation right now is really great. Just for everyone's context, her nanny had something happen.
00:34:08
Speaker
It was just a stressful morning for our Whitney girl. It's all good, baby. I got in a panic and then tackled the day, so all is well. But this has been very fun to kind of delve back into our past. I feel like we need to tell more stories. We will. I have so many on you. I have so many on you. I know. All of mine are embarrassing, and all of yours are fine.
00:34:38
Speaker
That's the problem. Pooped off a boat? That's like your worst one. I have so many bad ones. God bless my soul. I really feel, okay, you know how everyone talks about like, actually, I don't want to go there. I don't want to go there. But Candice, you were so responsible in college though. You worked all through college.
00:35:04
Speaker
I was an enigma in that like I feel like I was able to be a shit show while also having my shit together. Yeah.
00:35:16
Speaker
Like I was fun and a little bit of a shit show when we would go out sometimes and not, I was never like the pukie friend that needed to be taken care of. No, I wasn't like that. I was fun. I never held your hair. Never. But I also like kept, you know, worked all through college. I held positions in our sorority. Like I had my shit together, but I was fun.
00:35:40
Speaker
I loved Canis because like I was dating Chris through college and so it just became like kind of like mundane and then like I got to hear about all her dates and like she got to go do all the fun stuff and I'd be like, ooh, tell me everything. It was so fun to like always hear about what she was doing and just making out with everyone. Yeah, I love that about you.
00:36:04
Speaker
I'm not going to kiss anyone. You come up to me and want to kiss? Let's make out. There's so many people like that, though. And I would literally like hop in her bed in the morning and be like, so was I. It was so fun. Whitney was also an early riser and I was not like I like to sleep in and I would just wake up and Whitney would just be standing over my bed like.
00:36:29
Speaker
Staring at me sleep. I'd be like hi. I don't know why I thought that that was like a funny bit me like trying to Just stare at someone when they woke up. I always think about that video you took of my eyes when I was still in okay
00:36:46
Speaker
When I was, I was clearly still in REM sleep, like rapid eye movement. You know, that's what REM stands for. Literally, Winnie took a video of me sleeping in my eyes, underneath my eyelids are like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Like literally, I was.
00:37:02
Speaker
I mean, I was in deep sleep and when he was just standing over me. Yeah, but this wasn't like we weren't together on vacation. Like I like went down, went in her room just to stare at her and take this video. Like I was weird. She was obsessed with me. But I mean, you would sleep so late and I was like, I was six and I was like, it is nine thirty.
00:37:25
Speaker
Get up, play with me. If you could let me in college, like I could have slept till 1 p.m. like for sure. No, I was what a dream that would be now. Oh, I was just like, get up. Let's do something. Entertain me.
00:37:45
Speaker
That's so funny. Well, I'm sure there'll be lots of trips down memory lane in the future. Yeah. And I'm just glad that we could go from blacking out together to mom braining and blacking out that way together. So grateful for you. My life's just one big blackout. I had a couple of good years in there before, like after college and before I had a baby where I was super sharp and it's all a bit touchy now, but you know.
00:38:11
Speaker
She gone. She gone. It's all good.
Podcast Conclusion and Social Media Promotion
00:38:15
Speaker
All right. Well, I love you. I love you too. Thank you so much for being a part of our mom group chat. New episodes drop every Tuesday. And don't forget, the group chat is blowing up on our Instagram page. So make sure you're following along over there. All right. Got to go. My toddler just put something in her mouth.