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Episode 55 - ADHD Awareness Month
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Paul and Martin (co Mayors of ADHDville) chat about ADHD awareness, well, October is ADHD Month, so it seemed appropriate. You can trust us to make this most worthy of subjects as entertaining as we can. Enjoy.
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ADHD/Focus music from Martin (AKA Thinking Fish)
Theme music was written by Freddie Philips and played by Martin West. All other music by Martin West.
Please remember: This is an entertainment podcast about ADHD and does not substitute for individualized advice from qualified health professionals.
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Transcript
Introduction and Anecdotes
00:00:00
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I'll be back in the room. Back in the room, Martin. Except, except if you're watching on the, on the YouTubes, you'll notice that I'm not in my, in the room. I'm outside and you, and if you're listening through the medium of your ear, you can probably hear a leaf blower going on and various twittering in the trees. I did, I did ex boss.
00:00:27
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who used to do really long out, used to stare out the window of the agency, and he'd say, ah, the big room. It's like, the big room. Yes, I know. talk is ah So it's like you're in the big room. Yeah, because we have a we ah ah adopted that for decades.
00:00:49
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the the I'm going out into the big room. In fact, I still say it now.
00:00:57
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I'll still use that. um ah All right. Yes. anyway how how How are you, Martin? Oh, yeah, because ah I had my ah i have my kick kidneys ah had a bit of a kung fu chop and a slice.
00:01:16
Speaker
Um, uh, over a week now, over a week ago. And I feel, uh, yeah, I don't feel too bad. So, um, not too bad. Yeah. did your did you does your Do you feel like your kidneys work you better or just no actual, you know, who knows? Cocks aren't grinding so much.
00:01:41
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Who knows how, mean right unless they're really screwing up, yeah you how how do you ever tell? well They just go in there and grease them <unk>ase the, yeah you know. Well, they just kind of like went in and, you know, the thing is, right, is that I've got some scars or um on my on my front, right? I've got five of them.
00:02:05
Speaker
One is, I would say about two or three inches. That's the big one. That's right in the middle. Now we've got these four in a sort in a ladder formation, which are quite small. They're like, I don't know, maybe half an inch, you know, somewhere around there. Ladder formation.
00:02:26
Speaker
yeah it's ah it's it it's like there's just four um equally spaced up one side and i know that it's a robot ah so ah is a robot assisted surgery so i just sit there and go what Why, what are these four doing? Like i I imagine that the big one at the front was, was where the surgeon was in and he was doing all the main work. And then what were the other four about? What were they doing? What was that robot up to? Sneaky shit. You could have a tattoo, couldn't you?
00:03:03
Speaker
Yeah, I know. I thought I could turn this into a... but yeah Because it's quite equal. so we you know it's quite You would like it because it's quite geometric and equally spaced. i mean there were i they were quite It's quite as aesthetically pleasing from that point of view. is it But if it was a stairway, in reality, does that ladder arrive under your armpit? No, no, no. It's just kind of like... I can't really show you, but maybe it's about... I mean, because I'm using a American bit. Do you want your nipple? But it's probably about 10 inches from the bottom one to the top one. And it's just in my kind of... Oh, OK. And it's just in my tummy.
00:03:47
Speaker
region. Okay. So it's not, it's not too far away from the actual kidney area. But yeah, I know. So were if, if anyone's got any, any yeah i ideas for tattoos? Yeah.
00:04:05
Speaker
then yeah, right on open I'll take them. I'll take them. Tempting for anyone, I had a matter of listening. All right. Anyway. All right. Okay.
Podcast Introduction and Theme
00:04:15
Speaker
With that, ah with that scarring news, welcome to ADHDville.
00:04:42
Speaker
a temporary windshield, because I'm outside. Is it a beanie? It it is it is one of my hats that is now just over my mic. Yeah, kind of, yeah. Anyway, over to you, Mr. Thompson, for your words,
00:05:04
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We should go. I got my phone was ringing. I'm here Paul Thompson and I was diagnosed now.
00:05:16
Speaker
okay Sorry about that. I can see him there. No worries because we know that your internet is
00:05:28
Speaker
because because we know that the internet is basically your phone. So if your phone goes up, goes off, the whole yeah podcast goes up the street. I live in a medieval town with like really, really thick walls. So in the end, I found out the best, most reliable connection I have is is when I go through the phone. so You just hot hotspot it.
00:05:54
Speaker
hotpo crazy spoting Anyway, Mr. Paul, introduce yourself. Anyway, yes, the intro. I'm Paul Thompson. You knew that, but they don't. And I was diagnosed with a combined AD and the D a year ago, Martin. Wow. So, yeah. That is crazy. And I'm Martin West and I was diagnosed with ADHD in 2013.
00:06:19
Speaker
So we're just like two mates who, by coincidence, after 39 years of friendship, discover where ADHD is. hurrah It's really important to say this is an entertainment podcast about adult ADHD and does not substitute for relative initialised advice from qualified health professionals who don't take any advice from us. No, no, no. We're just kind of all, we're idiots, all-inclusive ADHD park beds with room for your Room for everyone, including your doppelgangers, your auto egos, your buddy doubles, your chaperones and your best buddies. Still here. Congratulations. um you You're course you' a real stickler. You are. Then grab your ear packs.
00:07:06
Speaker
You're like, it's blue, thank you. You're like, can't be Jeff Baxby, those space operas, or any other transportation transportation methods. And let us take you to ADHDville. And imagine me down at where you've created, you know. Where? You know, boys. In your mind. There. No hats. There on the stairs, right there, where we like to explore different parts of ADH and the day.
00:07:30
Speaker
Oh, nice. And we start off, as always, at the town hall in the mayor's office, where we, the joint mayors of ADHD, take care of business. But except we're not, are we? We're not in the mayor's office. Yeah, we are, because this... this No, wait. No, I'm going to have to cut that out, because okay because even though...
00:07:49
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah. Okay. i'll Yeah, up don't worry Okay scrub that scrub it so, um, yeah when I send the audio down to the um, the the audio department in the um, Yeah, yeah in the mayor's office. I'll just get to cut that section out um All right, so What? Why?
ADHD Awareness and Historical Context
00:08:16
Speaker
So yes, so we're here because it's ah because October is is an ADHD Awareness Month. So we thought that we should do at least a little head nod to that. Yeah. Right, Mr. to T? um That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and And it's just like awareness. So what does what does that really mean? me Well, let's see. Yeah.
00:08:41
Speaker
Let's jump in the car. Yeah, let's just jump in the car. And we'll head to... Where are we going, Mr. T? Let's go to the coffee shop, Martin. I think I need to... I think i think we'll stick to the script and we'll go to the park.
00:08:59
Speaker
Oh, okay. Good idea. Because it will already, I already have the sound effects for it in the background. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. So I would say I'm petrol as well. Well, it's a bit closer than the coffee shop. It is. It is. So there you go. All right. Well, let's just bring, bring the old car out on the front of footprint. Yeah. Always thinking about our footprints.
00:09:43
Speaker
Wow, the park sounds exactly like ah should my backyard. Weird. With the leaf blowers. Yeah, so ADHD Awareness Month. Yeah.
00:09:57
Speaker
What's that all about? What's going on? What's that all about? It's Global Awareness Week as well. By quizzes or not, the survey came out this week, Martin, and there's someone who's put all the researches together, right, about the numbers, the percentages, right?
00:10:19
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And it basically works. Some people say, oh, it's like the world population is about two, three, four, or 5%. Sometimes people say it's 8% blah, blah, blah of the population. They've put them all together and they said it's between four or 5% of us. It's a lot. i mean That is a lot. That is a lot.
00:10:42
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It's a lot of us. I know. And we should do a group hug. Oh, good Lord, that would be expensive. We would all have to get onto a plane and then our carbon footprint that that that that we were so careful of. That just gets ruined.
00:11:00
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um I was actually doing a um ah history of ADHD. I just kind of went on a little bit of a sidebar last week. I can remember I went, oh, how long how far does this go go back? Because I think it's tempting to think, especially if you've been diagnosed recently, that it's fairly,
00:11:26
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Modern and fairly new like that. It's a new thing when in fact um You can kind of trace it all the way back to um ancient ancient the Greeks and it's in it and So therefore it feels like this is something that has been around with us for a long long time even way Way before
00:11:55
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the Greeks, I think it's just been like, this has been part of our, of our genetic gay makeup going back forever. Which makes, there's a logic to it as well. It's it's not, you know, the more, you know, talking about awareness, but awareness month, October awareness month, the more you, when you actually diagnosed with it or when you actually first become a aware of it and you read into it,
00:12:23
Speaker
the more time that goes past the more lot more logical it sounds right in your head yeah i think i mean i think ADHD in of itself was you know as uh as we understand it to today has only really been in existence since uh 1980 i think it was when it was kind of But there have been various forms of it kind of going back through through history. but But what we know of is ADHD to today.
00:12:56
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Yeah. There was a medical paper, I think Victorian times. There's a medical paper where people, there's an English um
00:13:09
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professor of medicine as talks about it, didn't call it ADHD, but you know, he talks about it, talks around it, and it was clearly was talking about ADHD. That was 100 years ago. Yeah, because because in my head, I i was thinking,
00:13:26
Speaker
You know, because I think we've said this bi before, it's like, you know, ah we, we get to our late age undiagnosed as a very late undiagnosed ADHD. And you kind of go, yeah, how, how, how did everyone miss all of this? Right. Right. And then the, cause there's part of my brain that kind of goes, well,
00:13:50
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No one really looked for it. It wasn't something that the the people looked for. Like you would have to go and seek professional help and kind of put in the footwork and put in the effort to kind of try and get it diagnosed.
00:14:07
Speaker
Um, and Eve, so even as well, like autism, when I was a kid, you know, autism, when I was a kid was like, uh, you know, when I was a kid, there was like really horrible words used like spastic that thankfully not used anymore. Well, these like horrible, this horrible language associated with people that were, you know, neurotically diverse, even autism, when I was a kid and obviously when you're a kid.
00:14:34
Speaker
it was like oh you know some kind of freak because you know if you're if if you're old like us and you're british like us you'll remember a program called called called crossroads that was on right TV. And there was a character on it called, what's his name? of Benny. right benny benny yeah And he had like a ah he he wore hats like I wear hats. and and he And I think that he was that kind of ah autistic. Yeah.
00:15:11
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He wasn't down syndrome, you know, it was just he was just he was autistic definitely. Yeah, I think so. It certainly felt that way. And then so he was the butt of all the jokes, right? Really? yeah um You know, so if if you called someone a Benny,
00:15:28
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You know, you were putting them down. That was. Yeah. That was. an And he had a yeah he had a weakness for another character in the in the cast called Miss Diane. Miss Miss Diane. Yeah. The West Country accent. and You talked a little bit like that West Country, which is Cornwall Devon. Right. You know, West Country Miss Diane. Mm hmm. Miss Diane.
00:15:53
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right yeah so um so yeah it was like he was a personss It was even close to being on anyone's radar. not It wasn't on mine until I was in my late 40s for heaven's sake. I know. Yeah, yeah yeah it's nuts. I mean, not to kind of go off on a tangent, but I'm going to slightly, is that is that it's funny how because ADHD is quite loud, you know, it's quite, right it's quite, it's really externally quite obvious once you know, then it's like, oh crap, that's just, it's, it's ways whereas if you've got like autism, say, you like level one, high masking, low needs, you can kind of get away with it.
ADHD Diagnosis and Personal Impact
00:16:51
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yeah yeah yeah and i've been finding even there's this weird thing not not not not not weird i guess but this thing where because ADHD is quite loud people get diagnosed with ADHD and then later once they kind of like get their heads around that and they and they kind of like calm it down and think well but what the hell else is going on then they kind of go oh I might be I might be autistic yeah as well and it seemed quite common that that that you kind of like
00:17:30
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pick up this extra little, this other thing, because ADHD can mask other ah neurological conditions. but so for and a Well, I know you're the same, but since I've been diagnosed, I could like pick it up in other people so fast, and see it. It's oozing out of them.
00:17:57
Speaker
Right. And is yes, it's really fascinating. You see, as you say, it's like, it's so prevalent. You may spoil it like tattooed on your forehead. Right. Yeah. Because I think that we end up being, we can spot the trauma responses. Yeah. Of it. I think you could feel the energy as well. This, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not religious. I am spiritual.
00:18:26
Speaker
And I do believe in energy and you do pick it up. Like you you make friends. like Me and you, Martin, we made friends out 40 years ago. You're the oldest friend I've got, actually. I think friend is a bit of a stretch if if if you, you know.
00:18:43
Speaker
I mean, ah I feel like our friendship was a spiritual, we made a spiritual connection. but luck yeah let he leans It's more about your, your, your dad paying, paying me. i was's it Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He was like, he was like, Hey, mate. I was like, what? It says my, my, my, my, my son, he could, he could have used a friend.
00:19:09
Speaker
I went, okay, well, it's cost you 10 quid a month. Okay. You're cheap. I know. Well, you know, well, what's worse is that is obviously that I haven't ever raised that amount. So it's just been 10 quid. Yeah, I still get it. I mean, it's hardly worth it now. You know what I mean? Blimey. I get 120 quid a year.
00:19:38
Speaker
What's that 40 years? 40 times 365 times 40. I'll get your calculator out. No, 12. Hang on. Because I ain't. i um I feel like I do need to make this calculation. I yeah i don't have autism in the slightest. I'm just going to sit here and work out the the the math of how much I've been paid.
00:20:04
Speaker
thirteen do do do do do I'll just I'll just the I'll just vamp by kind of saying that this calculus four thousand six hundred and eighty pounds yeah not worth it mate not worth it ah hasn't been worth it and we think ah you know anyway um ah but i was I was actually saying that this this calculate is also a co-more morbidity of ADHD which is like
00:20:35
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Yeah. Where numbers are a mystery, are a confusing... If a bastard. Blobber. Yeah, they're not your friends. No. No, they're not. They're not. I've not really looked into it for for me, but my gut colour says that, you know. That's lovely. We were talking before about it not being on our radar. I had struggled so much with maths when I was a kid.
00:21:03
Speaker
Mm hmm. And I was clearly, know if I was in, if I was at school now, little Paul at school now, they'd be like, Oh, Paul's got ADHD. He needs some help. yeah Oh, he's he's got problems with numbers. So he's going to be finding, even it's going to have a really, it's going to really struggle with arithmetic and maths. Oh, resist ah no, nothing, nothing. Yeah.
00:21:28
Speaker
you just like in one end spat out the other you know there you go off you go yeah if you go yeah Right. I mean, in theory, I can see my numbers is fun and I can kind of see where it's a whole language and a and a universe that actually yeah kind of is cool. But my but my my my brain really doesn't want. I think i think perhaps my my ADHD is as as a kid, because it kind of required me to
00:22:08
Speaker
um concentrate in a certain way. It just didn't want to. just right It just creative enough. It's how it's taught probably as well. In India, they but from mo the vast majority of the the most brilliant mathematicians come from India. And in India, they teach maths in a completely different way than we teach it.
00:22:32
Speaker
right i holdlar opposite way of position it so they just come up They come at it, Martin. They come at it from a different angle. Okay, nice. Yeah, in India. All right. go and All right, so as as it's ADHD Awareness Month, um if you do listen to this and you do You know Put stuff out out there. So maybe you do another podcast and then maybe you're on tick-tock and you can you share? bits of your life with other but people You know that is creating awareness, you know this this podcast does its little tiny bit in our corner of the universe to spread all
00:23:17
Speaker
to spread awareness of ADHD and anyone else out out there who's doing similar different things, but kind of sharing. Brilliant. Hats hats off to you. and And sometimes it's just about, I think that that the hardest thing is ah is sharing it with the people around you, right? Is the people close to you, you know, that educate, you know, when you go on, you find it hard.
00:23:44
Speaker
I find it hard to to communicate to people who you'd like meet someone and you perceive, I don't know how, but somehow you perceive that they might not know much about it, especially in Italy because it's not on anyone's radar in Italy. It's unreal how little people know about it in Italy, but it's that's changing too.
00:24:03
Speaker
Um, but when you perceive someone doesn't know anything about ADHD, you've got to describe it. You know, it's like the, you know, the elevator discussion, you know, you could like explain it. It, I find that really hard. Just like, how do you explain ADHD? How do you, how do you explain it in an easy way?
00:24:22
Speaker
Right. um Other than think it's got nothing to do with the name. Yeah, I know, right? yeah ah Yeah. It becomes difficult to meet to other people. um But I think it's especially different difficult if you're talking to like family and friends because they bring along a whole baggage of stuff.
00:24:48
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Which is that which is you your relationship to them so and their history. So for example, um ah if you have ah a friend and you meet once once in a while and you're always late right and the other person's there and they're always early.
Misunderstandings and Stigma of ADHD
00:25:07
Speaker
And they go, my friends are so flaky. And then you kind of go, and then you then you find out that that that they're ADHD and they go, oh, you know, I've got ADHD and this is why. And then of course that just brings up.
00:25:26
Speaker
Oh, I see. So now you're going to blame being late on yeah on this. um b yeah yeah So yeah all the past history that you've ever had with that person gets rolled into this conversation about your ADHD and whether you're using it as an excuse or Yeah, you know, the worst thing that I think is when it's and it's so common these days is people have a really superficial knowledge about something and pretty much decide that they know it enough about it.
00:26:05
Speaker
So what they usually get is like the usual tropes stereotypes of what ADHD is. And they're not some don't even some don't scratch the surface, or some even don't even begin to scratch the surface, you know, they just base it on on someone else's opinions, who has basically got a problem with it, you know? Yeah, there's, there's a lot of harm people who who have basically heard something and then form form their own opinion of it, like it doesn't exist. um yeah It was created by the farmer industry to yeah to sell you meds. um That's one that I see pop up fairly regularly.
00:26:52
Speaker
I think sometimes also they're they're actually basically scared that they might be have been might be tarnished with the same brush, yeah because there is a taboo about it, if you know should come from our generation. ah yeah right It's like, oh, don't go there. So rather like you know deflect Deflect! Deflect! Pretend it doesn't exist. I know because I put up this post really quickly and then I took it down almost as as quickly because I didn't feel like I'd quite i'd quite formed the thought, you know what I mean? um Which was basically
00:27:31
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if you're talking about that doesn't stop your mate i know but you know like we we we kind of think oh i'm not i'm not sure about this so i'm just going to take it down and think about it a little bit more ah So, yeah, so I'm um'm now just going to blur it out onto the on onto this podcast instead. Right. Seems like the perfect platform. Right. which is Who is worse when it comes to like when you talk about ADHD? Is it like normal people, you know, like holistic people who, yeah um you know, who who will go, oh, you're just lazy and, you know, blah, blah, blah. Or is it other
00:28:13
Speaker
people with ADHD who are undiagnosed, yeah who have managed to highly mask yeah themselves and through sheer will and and sacrifice have managed to kind of get somewhere and then yeah they resent any other ADHD person and they will turn around and go, well, look, you're lazy. You should pull your finger out. yeah When in fact, if you looked at their lives, if they had if they had
00:28:52
Speaker
a degree but a a for example and then you looked at how they got their degree it would be you know they sacrificed a lot for it um they procrastinated and got everything in at the last minute they required a lot of external pressure and support to kind of get them through it And then they went out into the into the into the workplace and then they worked night and day, became workaholics, yeah um got to a good high position. but
00:29:34
Speaker
there but they have no relationship with their kids and their and their marriages is is on the rocks because they've just worked in survival mode and and and then they point at these successes like i've got a degree and i'm married and i've got kids yeah and they go you ADHD person you're lazy and they forget and they just will not accept the the the shit that yeah they have put themselves and everyone else through because they're just undiagnosed. I'm just going to let my dog out because this is barking.
00:30:14
Speaker
so um okay If you can manage to talk to the camera for like 10 seconds. OK, 10. OK. Yeah, it just happens b that to be on my list, actually. it' It's right here on the list and he's back.
00:30:33
Speaker
I'm back. Yeah, I was just saying that's on my list, exactly what you're talking about. Oh, right. Definitely. Because i' I think there's a lot of people, there's ah there's another category of people as well. There's a category of people that I've met some of them um over the last few months since my diagnosis. There's a lot of people that not only do they not know, they don't don't want to know that they don't know.
00:30:57
Speaker
Mm hmm. They just don't want to give it up. They don't want to give up this this story that they've been telling themselves because they've been holding on to it so tightly, especially people like um I know people that have been taking antidepressants for years and years and years. and And they shouldn't have been just because they've been diagnosed. That's something that's hard to give up.
00:31:22
Speaker
to admit like, yeah oh, um I've been on a wrong medication. I've believed in something for all these years. It's a story that I've been telling myself, you know, that kind of grew fond of, if we're honest, sometimes if you're on a victim side of, you tend to be a bit of a victim, you kind of like holding onto that. oh Or you might simply have to have to admit that you you've had really bad advice from your GP.
00:31:50
Speaker
Right. Because they're just ignorant about the subject. Yeah. You know, but i never bothered to get to know you particularly well. Right. But or you never had the courage to go and see a psychologist. Yeah.
00:32:06
Speaker
Yeah, I know. I know. I mean, you know, because who who really wants to to find out that their brain is wired in a different way. And that, you know, and as as you say, if you've built your identity around your personality and your personality is basically just, an you know, is ah is the outward um or not even the, but it's the parts that make up you, yeah then you you feel like your whole self would be under threat. You know what I mean? yeah If it's like, oh, exactly that person you thought you are, no, no, no, you're actually this person over here. yeah
00:32:47
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. but It's like what happens. so what happens what I don't know if this analogy works, but it reminds me of a political situation at the moment where everyone is so polarized. but People hang on to their beliefs with every fiber in their body because they're fucking scared that someone's going to come around, you know, they'll meet someone one day and their theories be completely blown away.
00:33:14
Speaker
yeah you know and it's just Yeah. Especially if you've put down a whole bunch of people for being lazy, you know? yeah and And then you find that you're in that camp, as it were. And then the only reason why you're not lazy is because you've exhausted yourself why by by masking your entire life. Yeah. But this you I like that saying there's always going to be haters.
00:33:43
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Unfortunately, you know, and there's nothing you can do with those, those kind of, those kind of people. No, um think I haven't come up with them personally yet. I have to say. It is weird, right? Because ah I, because when you're on social media a lot and I see like ADHD people, women seem to get the brunt of the negative comments, it seems.
00:34:12
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Right. And other guys too as well. But I don't know whether it's because we have the word podcast in our name that makes people feel like, oh, maybe they have a big audience. We don't. um and ah And they might kind of just splatter me all over the airwaves if I say something bad.
00:34:40
Speaker
Oh, really? I don't know whether that's part of it as well. Why we don't get read anything negative. Oh, it's lucky. If it's usually on other people's comment sections. That's that's why. yeah Yeah. I think I'll probably have to read them. I like I'm gonna have to go and read them. Not now.
00:35:09
Speaker
um Yeah, I mean it's all the things that That that is reality. You would think let's not kid ourselves. That is unfortunate reality. That's The culture society that we live in right can't ignore it. There are people like that There are a lot of haters and um surprising places. I had an argument semi-argument with with someone online um a couple of days ago, right? um ABC News, which is a news ah channel, put out a little clip on TikTok about ADHD, and they had this expert in, and and the host was saying, so there seems to be a big rise in um in ADHD, and they were cut to the expert, and there the expert said, yeah, there are many reasons why.
00:35:59
Speaker
And and he he he gave a very short but perfectly fair answer. And I went to the comments section. um and i was like And I was like just kind of pinging off loads of comments to everyone. um And one of them was, this a woman said, it's being, ah ADHD meds is being oversubscribed.
00:36:26
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and And then I went in and I said, I don't think they're being oversubscribed because I don't think, I mean, we are underdiagnosing ADHD. And she said, well, I'm ah i am a right um um And I believe that they are being overprescribed. And I said, right, so do you see the patient's notes and their history and their diagnosis? Do you see any of that? She said, no, it's just from what I see.
00:37:11
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so i'm like yeah right So I'm like, so like, so you don't know. You're just, you don't know. You're just biased. You're just biased. Yeah. Yeah. And another common one was that that came up in the comments was it's because of the food that we eat. So in the States, we have less Control about the additives and the preservatives and all that kind of crap that that ends up in our in our you know put Food and a lot of Americans eat very processed food like and they claim that right that's one of their things that they point to it's it's the food and the fact that That that that to you that to Europe has better food regulations, which it does Yeah, generally
00:38:04
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but yeah But my point was always when I went on was like, no, he's just it's just the stuff in the food can make the ADHD symptoms worse.
00:38:16
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Yeah. And that's why you might think that, but it, but, but it, but it doesn't cause ADHD. You don't, you can't eat it. It doesn't, earn our food doesn't make ADHD. Yeah. But that brings up, I mean, it's not going to be, might be the most popular thing to say, but there's also a lot of ignorance within the ADHD community.
00:38:40
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You know, there was a guy, famous someone famous, who was on British TV a couple of months back, I think, he has ADHD, and he he was like spouting the same theory, Martin, about about ah ingredients in in our food. And he got absolutely slaughtered by the community. So, is I mean, it's a complex situation. It is very difficult to get your head around. It's it's a completely normal.
00:39:08
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Right. Right. Because misunderstand it. It's so normal. Because I think everyone's pretty um ah good.
00:39:19
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ah Everyone's pretty agreed that it's a genetic Yeah, can can can condition and what they'd like to do is is to put whatever social thing that the um yeah the ca maai He said that it's ah it's a yeah it's a trauma management um thing that we develop as children. I don't think it is that. I think that just some people that unfortunately already have ADHD genetically, and that if they have trauma in their early childhood, it exacerbates it and magnifies the ADHD that they already had. That's my point. That's my personal opinion.
00:40:07
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Yeah. All right. Yes. All right. So ADHD. All right. So awareness. Um, this is what this podcast is partly about as well. So if you do, if you do listen to this podcast, thank you. We're trying to spread something. Yeah.
00:40:27
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we tell what we're trying to try not to do is actually like ah there's a lot of ADHD content out there whether it's podcasts or YouTube channels. We try not to tell people how they should think or feel about the their because it's all very personal. And we're certainly the last people to tell people how to think or feel about it. We just like to, you know, um tell people how we we deal with it.
00:40:53
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you know, how we manage it and help make their own decisions. yeah Yeah. If it's not, it's okay. We try and be entertaining along the way. Exactly. Exactly. Which sounds like a really good outro. It does. it It sounds like a good time to get back into the cab. Right. That's beautiful. We'll get back into the cab. We'll just head over to the post post post office.
00:41:22
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Um, for whatever reason, uh, we'll just chat a bit more with the post office. All right. yeah to Bring the, bring the car around. Right. Bring it around. Handbrake turn.
00:41:39
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You know what, when my wife parks her car, she she and she does this thing which I call 70s cop show parking, which is right which is where you where you come to the parking space at about a 45 degree angle.
00:42:02
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and then you park it there. Well, because in ah in a cop show, well what they would do is that these cars would just drive up to a scene, right? it just and yeah and And they didn't parallel park, they would like park at an angle to the curb and then jump out. So I always call and let anyone who... For no particular reason at all, like shimmy across the bonnet.
00:42:27
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Of course, of course, shimming, shimming is, is, is de rigueur of the Cop show and genre.
00:42:38
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um ah Tomorrow you're going to arrive at home and you you your wife's going to turn up with, with Hucky Bear. Oh blimey. Yeah. Yeah. And I wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't be mad. I'd be like, all right. Hey. I tried to get him on the podcast. I sent him a message trying to get him on the podcast. Yeah.
00:43:00
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around so no um I I asked Paris Hilton if she would come on the podcast and she also turned turn turn me down. Well, i mean I mean, she didn't actually even bother to turn me down. We should fight them both. What? We should fight them both. That's going to be the draw. Well, I think the ultimate hook. Huggy a Bear and Paris Hilton can't take much better than that. Right.
00:43:29
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Yeah, because she came out as having ADHD and she made a statement yeah about it um recently. she did And I was on her TikTok and I was like, hey, you should come on our podcast. Nothing. Tumbleweed. Yeah. Is that OK? Any time, Paris, though, any time you want to come on. OK.
00:43:55
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I know the history of... I know a bit about tumbleweed. Did you know tumbleweed, Martin? It's not actually... I thought i find it's really funny and ironic. You know, you know the classic tumbleweed kind of trope, like the classic Western. You'd have to have tumbleweed coming through. yeah It's not native to America at all. It's Russian.
00:44:19
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Oh, is it? It's native to Russia that's tumbleweed. Oh, fantastic. love I love that. I thought you were going to say it is neither a weed nor does it tumble. Another tumble. It is a weed. But it's ah it's native. It's a native Russian plant.
00:44:39
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OK. OK. All right. OK. Well, anyway, I think ADHD will podcast the place they go to for all your tumbleweed entomology. and i Anyway, so we're at the post office, Martin, and don't I should point out at this point that your feedback is vital to us. We read all your comments. We might read out yours on or a future podcast.
00:45:07
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We may well do. Not yours, Martyn. I'm talking about the participants. If you've got this far, 45 minutes in, congratulations. Like and subscribe for more brain torture. um You know you want to. And jump in the comments and say hello. Or brain massage.
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00:45:58
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00:46:34
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00:47:04
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00:47:45
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Is he in shot? Oh, there he is. That's Eddie. He's asleep on the patio. Oh, look, he's just chilling. He's just chilling. All right, he's just soaking up the rays.
00:48:01
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so up the rays There, says the mayor. That's that.