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Episode 38 - Living With ADHD. Featuring Guest Star David
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Paul and Martin (co-Mayors of ADHDville) chat to David about his ADHD life. We discover his fishy past and how his ADHD diagnosis has turned his life around. Enjoy!
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Transcript
Introduction to the ADHD Podcast
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Back in the room. yeah Welcome to ADHDville.
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It's the theme song.
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guest host special guest special guest special special ah Hello, I'm Paul Thompson. I was diagnosed with the combined AD and the HD and whatever, eight months ago. Eight months as well. I know, starting off well. And I'm Marty West and I was diagnosed with a combo pubu plata, ADHD in 2013.
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So we're just two mates who, by coincidence, after 39 years of friendship, discovered they were co-AADHD as hurrah. Now, it's very important to say that that that that this is an entertainment podcast about adult ADHD and does not substitute no no no for individualized advice for qualified health professionals. No, don't take any advice from us. We're just here as a kind of all-inclusive ADHD punk bench. um ah With roof for everyone, including your doppelgangers, your alter egos, your buddy doubles, your chaperones, and even your best buddies. Still here? Great. Then grab your jet packs.
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transport.
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that we've created in our minds. Where we like to take you to explore different different parts of A, D, H and the D.
David's ADHD Journey and TikTok Impact
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Just managed to get through that. Ah, all right. So we start off as always at the town hall in the mayor's office where we the joint mayors of ADHD take care of business. And today we have a guest. We have a guest. It's our TikTok. It's only our TikTok friend, David. Welcome, David. david Hello, David. It is an honor to meet the worshipful mayors of ADHDville. Isn't it? precious isn't it
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ah know
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I was well rehearsed. that's
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Yes. So why are we here? So you got onto TikTok. So your TikTok name is ah David, my ADHD journey. um And you went onto TikTok, what? It must be about what six, seven months ago, something around there. I don't know. ah It's about four months actually, it seems a lot longer. Oh wow, it seems days and you you popped up and I think I was, I was, I was your, I was after the first person to follow you. You were, you were indeed. You've got that dubious honour. Really? Yeah, um I was in dead early, dead early.
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And I know. And I saw like, oh, I saw. ah He's like, he's like, well, I said, we have a podcast for you, mate. And and now you're here. I am here. That seems so long ago. The remarkable thing about you, David, is I think ah think you've mentioned this on one of your podcasts, or you said that your friends of yours have set mentioned this. You've looked like you've you've um lost like 10 years since your diagnosis. yeah If you look you look younger, there it's like i yeah it's it's quite remarkable.
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Oh, thank you. um I find it difficult to look at my old TikToks actually. Right. Because I i associate where I was at that place and and at that time in that place and I can see it all over my face and I find it quite hard to look at them. Isn't that amazing? no That's really profound.
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yeah It's not like, you know, it's not like because you've been replying Nivea or any other kind of, you know, man grooming techniques, you know, that we're going to sell to people, although sounds like it could be something. No, it's really amazing. Amazing. All right. yeah So let's start with, um so when so what was your ADHD journey? I mean, take us back to the young David. Oh, the young David. ah I was always in trouble at school.
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um When I first started school, I'd get up and walk around the classroom, much to the teacher's irritation. ah But that was back in the days when ah things like that were literally beaten out of you. oh yeah so so i then yeah and So I started wandering with my mind instead. And um you know I'd be looking out the window, or if we were reading, I'd either be 20 pages ahead, or
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15 pages behind, yeah yeah um always being told off for talking, not concentrating, um just all the usual sort of things that would scream ADHD nowadays. But back in the in the bad old days, nothing was known about it. Yeah, because we forget, don't we? It's like, you know, forget that in those days, there was no one was talking about this stuff.
Career Adventures and Impulsivity
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No, there was no support. You were on your were even worse. You were like, you know, it was like, well, violent kind of place to be.
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Yeah, and i i I knew somehow I was different. I knew I didn't quite fit in. ah And so I ah used humor a lot to try and deflect, you know, my attention away from myself. um And yeah, it was it was, you know, I didn't have a bad childhood, you know, it was it it was a good good good childhood, um but I didn't socialize outside of school. I had a lot of mates in school, but I didn't i didn't go out and play as such.
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So, you know, things were slightly, you know, slightly different. So and I just never quite felt like a fitted in. Yeah. and Yeah. How did, how'd that affect like school exams and those kinds of shenanigans?
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Uh, I would, I would revise probably two days before the exam. Right. do hate and and do yeah And do enough to pass or just skim you know just yeah just just scrape through. And all my school reports were saying David can do much better. He's really intelligent and he just needs to focus and he just needs to concentrate. He used to drive my dad to despair.
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Yeah, could do better. See me big aspirations for me. Yeah. so yeah Yeah, I think um officer i I've said said this before. ah I'm um'm a solid C plus student. I mean, that was my that that was my my average. You but really the only didn't know that about you, Martin. I was the same. Yeah, he I was always just got over the line, you know, if there was a a line that I just, ah I was just on the right side of it. I think the most I ever got was like a B minus. Unless it was art, then it was all like like like top grades. Oh yeah, A's. A's. I used to get A in art. Art would work an r RE of all p politicalable things. Oh goodness me. Wow, there we go.
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Because in our school, know what no one paid any attention to r RE. it just we just It was just a non ah non-event. I don't know why it interested me, but it did. I'm not a particular religious person, but it was just one of those subjects that um just interested me. Wow. Okay. So then like after after school, do what what was like in what kind of did you like higher education or to go straight into work? I went straight into work. I could ah ah couldn't focus on education. I just knew education wasn't for me.
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a at the time, didn't have a clue what I wanted to do. um So I became a management trainee, even rubber, which was a big local company to me in Bath. And what did they do? Obviously our a us our Australian listeners are thinking that it's a condoms. No, ah car hoses, car tires, ah all sorts of of rubber products, except condoms.
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nice and Again, it was, that I was moved from department to department. So I had the variety, didn't have to focus very much. And I actually enjoyed that. You're bouncing, you're bouncing from department to department. Given that you were in a rubber business. Very nice. So what why were you bouncing? ah Sorry, why are you moving from department to department? Just like, just not settling or?
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No, it was a part of the trainee scheme basically. they that They just hired someone to be a lackey in all the departments for a short period of time for two years. Right. So it's it it was a good experience. I i think I learned more what I didn't want to do um yeah um than what I did want to do. yay and Yeah. So then are you like ah a of classic ADHD that just changed jobs like fairly constantly? oh Absolutely. I then went into went to work for a marketing consultancy.
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ah which I absolutely loved and um did that for 15 years. It was very good because you couldn't every few weeks you were working on a different project. So there was a constant renewal of interest and excitement and different companies, different products. And I really did enjoy that. Yeah, well, that's our our game, isn't it, Paul? at Well, yeah advertising and design. Yeah, yeah. where We even worked together for, ah I think we worked together for about four or five years. Maybe more. Well, maybe more, maybe more, maybe more, maybe more.
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Yeah, I know in the world of London. So, so then just before we came on air, we're talking about Koikov. So, you know, it's like, it's like podcast gold to me in terms of like ADHD kind of, uh, kind of spontaneous kind of change and not spontaneous. What's the word I'm looking for?
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mmm you're looking for the worst but uh would you jump things something just impulsivity impulsive impulsive yeah thank god someone's got a brain around here yeah exactly impulsivity okay she jumped into you bounced into koi carps yeah i it's i e I got a job for a software company. I was corporate sales marketing manager for a software company and was doing really, really well. And then they hired another corporate sales marketing manager to work alongside me. And she had experience in the software industry, whereas I didn't. And I thought she's better than me. And I did the classic the classic imposter syndrome.
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and then um felt I wasn't good enough for the job. Stopped, basically stopped doing the work and was fired. oh So then had to find a job quite quickly. I had been quite interested in Koicarp. I kept them at home. So I made a big change. I thought, oh, I can't do marketing. It's it's too hard for me. um Obviously no good because I was fired. And so I went to work at a place that sold quite a cup. Wow. OK. Sounds sounds fishy to me.
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Yeah, it is a bit of a fishy tale. And then I've been there about six months and the garden center that owns the aquatic center decided they were going to sell it. And the owner of the garden center asked me whether I'd be interested in buying it on a Friday afternoon. And on the Monday morning, I signed the lease and had bought £50,000 worth of stock. Jesus. Wow. Yeah. Wow. That's 50,000 pounds worth of stock. Talk us through that weekend, in David. Do you like, like I would imagine, right, go to the pub, have a pint.
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it was ah the the owner the god I said to the owner of the garden centre, I haven't got that sort of money. And he said, what money have you got? So I phoned the bank manager and I said I want to buy an aquatic centre and he said how much do you need? And I told him and he said, I can't give you that. I can give you, I think it was 20,000. And so I phoned the owner of the garden center up and he said, okay, we'll take the 20,000 and then you you you can pay us back the rest over two years. by and And so I did some really complex um analysis of the figures on a scrap of paper.
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like and um went and signed the lease on the Monday. Wow. Jesus. Yeah, that's crazy. And you didn't consult, ah you know, um what they called in England, a yeah accountant or? No, no, no, no. So so how did it go? So you've signed. So you've signed the the lease on the Monday and then you're like, right. Yeah. You're now you an owner of a business. Yeah. Yeah.
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ah It was quite bizarre. ah First two years was really, really good. Really successful. okay I um used to go to Japan twice a year to buy fish. yep and would Hang on. oh All right. All right. Stop here. Stop here. Stop. here stop ah stop Okay. So. Who do you... That's that's a rabbit hole. That's a rabbit hole. A whole Japan thing. Let's go down the Japanese buying koi carp rabbit hole. Because this sounds great. I love this. I've been to Japan once. So I know it very little. But to all right. So who are you going to meet over there? It's basically a wholesaler who acts as an intermediary and a translator.
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All right. Stop alarm. Yes. They take you round to all the breeders. Most of the the breeders are up in the north of Japan, in Niigata area. And they take you round. Sounds Oh, it is amazing. A beautiful country. yeah ah In the autumn, it's all rice fields and um lovely warm sunshine. and We used to go in March and it's six foot of snow. Oh, wow. Yeah. OK. It was amazing. You go around and you literally pick the ones you want. All right. i ah You through two metres of snow first and then they're all in greenhouses.
Navigating Financial Risks with ADHD
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um um Yeah, they will have greenhouses, heated greenhouses just by imagination. but All right. So you say like, right, I'll have I'll have this bunch and then they mark them.
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But how do you choose them? kind Yeah, the the pattern, the coloration, the markings, body shape, believe it or not, there is good and um bad body shape in Koi. And I'm guessing they're more or less expensive based on like their yeah physical characteristic characteristics. Yeah, yeah. so And you use a sort of angle of price. Were you like a high... um i'm I'm guessing the high-end koi were like probably out of your range. I i don't know. I'm guessing it. I think they sell one koi for a million dollars.
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Yeah, yeah. ah I mean, we used to sell fish. ah We used to buy in bulk or for about 20 quid. um The most expensive one that I sold was three and a half thousand.
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Yeah. Wow. that so All right. Yeah. Yeah. it was its You know, it was an incredible experience. So how long were you over there for? So once he's kind of for a week pick picked your fish and you are hanging out in the hotel and we just go for a week and you you probably visit four or five breeders a day. Wow. Holy moly. And then they would all be shipped to the UK or they'd have to swim, I guess. Yeah. yeah pick Pick them up at Heathrow. I was almost thinking that they were like some form of homing pigeon. you they they just like They just attach David's address onto it. There you go. Head that way. Do they do they but do they travel well?
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Yeah. Yeah. that they They put, they don't need much water, they but they need pure oxygen. So they fill the bags with, you know, with just enough water to cover them. And then the rest of the bag is filled with pure oxygen. goodness may ah well It takes about 24 hours door to door. Wow, that's quick. That's cool. All right. And then it's all right. So they turn up and then would you have people like customers kind of like ah sort of a waiting for the newest, coiest of the Carpist?
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Yeah, we used to have an open evening and then we did get probably about 100, 150 people to come in. All right. Wow. I mean, you can't pay DM! oh That was... I wish I thought of that one. I wish I thought of that one. no I wasn't expecting to... Do you know what? I wasn't expecting to talk about fish today. so um was like well i' I was a lesson in Koikop and Latin in slogans. In the same conversation. I know. but in In typical ADHD fashion, when I'd go to Japan, I wouldn't have the money to buy the amount of fish that I needed. right and And what would happen was that the fish would arrive at Heathrow
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and I'd have to give the handover a check. And probably most of the times when I handed over that check, I did not have the money to cover the cost of those fish. wow okay And I used to take a gamble ah that on the first open evening that I had, which would probably be the next day, that I would sell enough to cover the cost of this. I mean, looking back at it now, I don't know how
Path to ADHD Diagnosis and Medication
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I did it. I couldn't manage that level of stress. oh my god this but it work every time it worked every Sounds like the story of the famous boxing promoter called Dong King.
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And he he went to like the big American TV networks in the 1960s, saying that he had Muhammad Ali signed up for a fight. And do they want to buy the rights? OK, and it turned out it this turned out to be the famous the one in Manila, the famous boxing. I think George in the jungle. Rubble in the jungle. George Foreman and Muhammad Ali. But he had never spoken to Muhammad Ali. She thought, oh, I'll get the contract signed by the but the TV networks, then I'll go and have a word with Muhammad Ali.
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just insane yeah yeah yeah all right okay i couldn't do it now i really couldn't do it now right but there was i mean there's there's there's some like you know um dopamine you know yeah yeah ah just like It's just like now now you've been diagnosed with ADHD, you look back and think, oh, that's why. It's just like getting your head on a dopamine. yeah which Which brings us on nicely to ah when did you think you had ADHD and get yourself diagnosed?
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ah Towards the end of the year, last year, um a lot of things in my life had started to unravel. um I'd gone self-employed as a handyman. And suddenly, having gone from employment, all my structure was suddenly gone. All my daily sub-structure. right And I just collapsed without the structure. Yeah, I'm feeling that. Yeah. And I really got into a bad place, you know, I'd end up sitting in my van. I really got into like ADHD paralysis. I'd sit sit in my van, I'd turn up for a job and then think I can't do this. And it would be something that I've done dozens and dozens of times. Yeah.
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you know, with no problems. And then suddenly I was thinking, I can't do that. I can't do it. I'm not able to do that. And and so I'll just sit there. And of course then that had a big financial impact.
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and i've been Having talking therapy, I've been diagnosed with anxiety depression probably five years ago. Wow. yeah And in given antidepressants, which didn't really touch it because I don't think I actually had anxiety and depression. It was more to do with the ADHD. We talked about the last podcast and so it's a perfect example. Yeah. Amazing. Okay. And I was having talking therapy and my counselor, there was, there was a joke, um,
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I made a typical joke. She said, have you done any of your art recently? And I said, no, I think I'm more autistic than artistic. And then she said something like, oh, have you looked at neurodivergency? I And I'm from that joke. I went home and I Googled um and up came ADHD and I just read the symptoms and I thought that's my personality. That is my personality on the page and that actually burst into tears. It was absolutely phenomenal. It was just such a
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sort of, oh my God, that's it. yeah And then i then I totally went into denial. I thought, no, there's you know nothing wrong with me, inverted commas. um I think if I'm totally honest, I had some probably not particularly good preconceived ideas about neurodivergency through lack of knowledge, really. I was thinking, you know I'm not a naughty boy. you know that's it's That's to do with naughty children. know it's it's It's nothing to do with me.
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Yeah. ah Then we got Messiah. He's a very naughty boy. Yeah. What's frightening with that is I can see the scene. ah not Yeah.
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from From the from the light of bright. Yeah, I can see that scene. What do you want? What do you want? He's a messiah. He's not a messiah. Genius. Okay. Yeah. So yeah. so So you were into denial for a bit, but you came what? I guess you mulled over it and yeah yeah pretended to forget it for a while. Yeah. And then it came to Christmas and and I thought, no, this is it. And I started to talk about it in therapy. And then my therapist suggested that I do a journal, started to journal and cause typical ADHD. I've never got a pen or I've never got a piece of paper or I've not got either. And so I thought, well, I'll i'll i'll do a video journal.
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And I'll do it on my phone. So I started it on my phone and of course filled up my phone. And then I thought, oh, I can post it onto TikTok. You know, no one's going to watch it on there.
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And um then that sort of snowballed from there. doulous I'm just curious. So if you were if if you were like in your van again, going for an interview, how would it be different now from you know that that episode that you talked about? How would it be different post-diagnosis? Post-diagnosis, I'm on medication and during the day, the medication,
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i i has just been life-changing, absolutely life-changing. This morning, I went to a business networking meeting, which I would never have been able to do. Right. That's cool. In my marketing ah days, i would I could do public speaking. I could stand up in front of 100 people and give a talk, no problem. But then when that finished, and then you have to do the small talk, Oh, yeah, couldn't I couldn't do the small talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And um yeah, so so on that meds thing, because that's where you got a lot of heat, as they say, yes, on on tick tock, because you kind of went on to on to elvance. Right. Yeah. And then you you documented that.
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And that was a very powerful, I thought was a very powerful and very real moment that you shared. um And everyone just just went nuts for it. I mean, you you had you went from like, you know, some viewers like us to like, well no where are you now? 7,000, 8,000, somewhere around that? Yes, I think we've got 7,200 followers now. Right. And that video has been for you, I think 850,000 times. That's crazy. really It's crazy. Goodness me. Yeah. that's it How did you, yeah because obviously it was a very personal moment that you shared, you know, when you um and you were crying because you were on the
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the deal with going on the events for the first time. Yeah. Was that a kind of hard thing to share or did it feel fairly right? It was very hard. I wasn't expecting to have that effect. Just to have a quiet mind for the first time ever in my life was just I can't tell you how amazing it was. You know, it really was. And I just thought, oh my God, this is life can be like this.
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um
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And when I watched the video back, I thought, no, I'm not going to share this. And then people because I documented the rest of my journey, someone said, oh, you know how did you get on with your meds? How did you get on with the meds? And I was like, oh. And I had about six messages saying, you know how are you getting on? And so I just posted it. and ah But I wasn't expecting that response. um ah to To be fair, I've had have had positives and negative responses to that. ah video god yeah right yeah I mean I do you know how how can anyone but I just don't understand it and I'll never try and understand how can and anyone have a ah negative response to that I don't get it
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I think because the, I think people do get fixated with the medication is an amphetamine um and then they link it with speed and and it gets linked with, you know it you know, it's a bit like saying morphine is heroin. You know, they are they are the same class of drugs and they don't have the same impact on an ADHD brain that they do on a neurotypical brain. ah
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I also think that they are just one part of the toolkit, cho the ADHD toolkit. And for me, it's been really useful because it's enabled me to get the systems and the structure back in place that I needed to to sort of function better than I was. But I, ironically, if someone, if you just said, I've started, to started taking Xanax, no one wrote about an eyelid.
Seeking Intellectual Fulfillment
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No, i mean Xanax is a really powerful, um, form of medication, right? Yeah. But it's just been normalized, you know? Yeah.
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yeah yeah Yeah, I mean, I've had some quite abusive personal messages. I'm promoting it. ah Wow. And I have always said in my videos that it has worked for me. It may not work for you. And it is just a part one part of the toolkit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't it doesn't cure ADHD. No, no, no. All right, so so what's so you so you said that you're you're going that you went to a business conference. What's the future?
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what do you what do you where Where is Dave in the van heading? Do you know what? this this is This is a difficult one because
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i I enjoy my job with being a handyman. I do enjoy it. It is great fun and it's very varied. ah Do I find it intellectually yeah um rewarding? No. ah And I do want to do something that involves my intellect a little bit more, which is my intellect. because of because of my Because the ADHD, I've always assumed that I wasn't good enough in the marketing job. i wasn't good enough i was I've been in retail management. That didn't quite work out. you know So I've always gone for lower and lower you know less and less taxing jobs. And um so I think right i think intellectually i want I want to do something that's a bit more challenging.
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Yeah, because it kind of feels like you were kind of like well like heart yeah you were you were working challenging jobs. And as you say, you you kind of stepped down a bit. And now that you've found your ground level and yeah and you're now much more you know in a much more stable place, you've got some meds, you've got some support and you're learning lots of stuff from other people. And yeah and then you you can now kind of go on that sort of growing Phase I guess right but but we can start to like look and kind of go right. Well, what do I want to do now?
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I did a bucket list and there's a few things that I wanted to do that I've never done. So I went down the zip wire at the Eden project. Oh, I saw that. Yeah. Because I hate heights. Absolutely hate heights. And I thought I'm going to challenge myself. Fantastic. But did you do like... Went to my first ever concert? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. That was quite recently. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You were quite, you were diagnosed quite recently as as was I, I was diagnosed about three months before you. I um i think we exchanged a couple of messages on this on TikTok, David. and if I went through a pair where I was totally overwhelmed with just like, this seemed like every day was like full of
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new insights like, you know, Oh, that's why I behaved like that in the past and just, and it can become quite exhaust. I found that quite exhausting to go through yeah quite overwhelming. Yeah. It was quite. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's easy. Cause it's easy to just talk about, Oh, I started taking these meds and everything got resolved. It's just not that simple. Is it? No, it opens up a Pandora's box of emotions yeah yeah of stuff that, you know, there's lots of things that I hadn't dealt with or, you know, that I just parked or ignored. You know, I think it was a lot of emotions I hadn't even even felt before.
00:36:46
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Yeah. I found a really random memories were coming back from sort of 20, 30 years ago. and Right. There you go. Where on earth's that come from, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And kind of delightful in so in a lot of ways. Yeah. You know, just like it seems like every day it was a day of discovery. Yeah, it is. It's quite exhausting, though. It's quite quite emotionally taxing. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know because you you have that whole phase where you're going, oh,
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That explains that thing. Oh, like, Oh, right. Now it makes sense. Like, Oh, okay. ah like For me, it was, there's a lot of pattern recognition as well. Like, Oh, this is like pattern of the same kind of thing. You know, for me, there was a lot of, um, uh, self sabotage all the way through my life, you know, And also suddenly you've got a name for it. ah Wow. Yeah. Yeah, because it's because it's like it's it's not a personality flaw anymore, right? You know, it's like, oh, OK, you know, my brain is actually wired in a different way. and
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And I just didn't know it at the time. And that's why I behaved in this way. It isn't because you're a
Embracing ADHD Impulsivity
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bad person. It's just because you know yeah you just undiagnosed. Just wired differently. Yeah. ah What a relief. What a relief. I think um please I think um maybe we kind of get onto, if there's anything else, you know, is there any any other little topic snippet that you want to talk about? um Otherwise we'll well we'll we'll get onto the the the last question.
00:38:51
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like steve I think I think if anyone, all I'd say is if anyone is not sure whether to get a diagnosis or not, just go for it. If you yeah you if you are. um
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it's I have found it life-changing, literally life-changing. um Yeah. Absolutely. It is definitely worth going for the the diagnosis. I don't know about you, David. i've I haven't experienced any negatives from it whatsoever. No. Not one. No. It's not like some most things, you know, a lot of important things that happen in your life say, oh, they're good sides and bad sides. There's only good sides for me. Right. Yeah. I did tend to find that once I've been diagnosed, there was a period where things got worse. Seemingly like right. yeah You, you, you get that skills gap.
00:39:56
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thing and you feel like you're more of an idiot than you know, because, because you're ah ah oh aware of yourself more, you can't, um, yeah and and you think, Oh God, I've got so much work to to to do. So but there is a, there is a bit of a rough road for, uh, for, uh, for a while, but, um, once you pass that, there's one thing I think is probably cause, um, in common, the three of us have in common is with late very late diagnosis. And it's a lot of I felt um ah wish I'd discovered it earlier in life, but at the same time, I felt like I could i could deal with it better now that I'm you know knocking on 57.
00:40:44
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You know, yeah, yeah. and And I think the other thing is like having this impulsivity, sometimes we have done stuff and experienced stuff that we wouldn't have done if we hadn't didn't have that impulsivity. yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I think my life would may have been a little bit more less interesting.
Exploring New Hobbies
00:41:04
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oh Totally. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. All right. Cool. All right. So the last question ah which we ask is, so you're now part of ADHDville, you're a citizen here, and as as a guest, you get to own ah a property or ah or a place in ADHDville, so we had um autistic lime.
00:41:39
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but to see like or to or or or artistically meet ah Michael. He owned he he opened up the the the second hand bookstore. Yep. Right. Broken Spines. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And ah ah Jonathan, who opened up a tacos and tequila joint. Yep, yep, yep. So do you have any anywhere that you'd like to put your pin in a map?
00:42:13
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Well, i I would like to open a really bizarre store actually. Ooh, I like the sound of this. One of my hobbies is being metal detecting over the years. ever since It's the one one hobby that has stayed with me. Right. And so ah and I also really like crystals. So I would like to open a combined metal detecting and crystal shop. All right. So you kind of walk in and then it's divided into two. So on one side, it's a metal detecting. side the other It's like crystal crystals. I just like the look of them.
00:42:50
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and I'm not into all the crystal healing things. but Somehow I think that will fit really well into our village. Right. ah for Metal crystals. What are we calling this this is place? ah Yeah. Anyway, crystal, crystal tips. What was, what was that? Well, that, that animation in the seventies, crystal tips. and analysi aister Yeah.
00:43:22
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who Oh, yeah. I hadn't thought of a name for it. All right. No worries. Yeah. So cros medical nice so that we will also have a theme park where the cover of a theme park was was ah mad about yeah madds about money. and We also had had a design shop. Chloe has a design shop. Yep.
00:43:53
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Oh. So on the metal detecting. Yes. So have you have you found anything? What's what what's been your what's been your top top finds? Top finds. I found a few Roman coins. Nice. I found some Roman brooches when I was a child living in Bath. ah And now more brooches. um
00:44:21
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some nice buckle you know buckles and coins, literally thousands of coins. the Right. i had done The latest episodes of like Chatterbix, you ever listen to the podcast Chatterbix? No. They've the both of them, ah Joe Wilkinson, what was their names? Joe Wilkinson and Dave L. Yeah. They've both just got into metal detecting as well. They bought all the kit recently and they talk about it. It's really funny. All right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so we we Wilkinson's on like, is he on like ah eight or 10 cats or something? Yeah. He's a comedian with a beard.
00:45:01
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And he was also yeah one of the jiggy vays in the afterlife. He was the postman in afterlife. All right. Yeah. Yeah.
Listener Engagement and Community
00:45:11
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and funny man Okay. Yeah. All right. So you're out there getting beat, beat, beat. And then yeah The thing that that I think of when I think of that is that you'll kind of dig down and you'll find a coin or something, right? And then you'll but you'll be like, to me, it's like no one has touched this in like 2000 years. Like the last person who saw that coin was like a Roman dude who probably stashed his coin somewhere or dropped it or something. Yeah.
00:45:43
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Yeah. It's, it's, it's amazing. I guess it's you it's chasing dopamine, isn't it? You know, you just get horses you get the beep. What is it? What is it? What is it? yeah It's a ring hole. It could be Sutton, Sutton who as well, couldn't it? Absolutely. you Have you been to Sutton? Have you seen the treasures of Sutton who? No, no. Something I want to, I'd like to come back to the UK and go and see it. I've been fascinated with ah archaeology for the last three or four years. We went up to the Lake District in the autumn and I went up to, we went up to Hadrian's wall while we were there. Okay. ah close to I was quite amazed at but the bits of that that are still around.
00:46:27
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Yeah, it's a tree. or thats Was the tree still there when you were there? just They're on trial at the moment. you not Not sure if you heard about this, Martin, in the States, but some two two guys are currently and on trial for cutting down one of the oldest trees in the UK. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. I keep my UK ears open for sure. All right. okay i'm right um We can we can all jump in the car. You know what we didn't do? We didn't get the bloody car. We're still in the mayor's office. Right. Oh, God.
00:47:12
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so and let's get back in the car anyway let's get in the car because that we were never in it actually but we'll get back anyway and we'll we'll head off to the post post office all of us uh yeah so let's bring it around the ramp around the front
00:47:34
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All right, nice post office by the way. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I just want to say that your feedback is is vital to us. We'll be reading all your comments and the best ones we'll be reading out on our... on our podcasts. So all feedback is very, very welcome. All right. And I have one that's just come in, actually. I had one that's come in 32 minutes ago. So ah Leo Connor up in the done Dundee says of last week's episode, another brilliant episode. I always learn so much from you too.
00:48:16
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but a nice with a crying, laughing emoji. And I have to say that that that she's... ah ah I think I said this to you, Paul, that she... She's our first binge watcher. She's our first known binge watcher. Well, I think Margaret was up there. Michael in Montreal has quite been bingy. Right. I think he's quite bingy. And I know that you, David, her ah put put us on in your in your in your van. Yes, I do. um I've unfortunately broken my phone. So the phone that connects to my Android auto doesn't work at the moment. So I've missed you for about two or three weeks. But oh i've I watched every
00:49:07
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I've watched everything, I've listened to everything up until that point. Nice. Really fabulous spot I like to hear. It's great. Well, you have some great episodes coming up. ah I tell you, that there's some there's some absolute corkers. This week's actually, that's out, well, it'll it'll be out, episode 37, we've just uploaded. That one's great. It's got a great quiz in it. Oh, yes. Yeah. I shall. I shall skip to that one. so Nice. All right. So, Paul, a this nothing think this is your bit now. you to All right. Oh, yes, it
Conclusion and Farewells
00:49:51
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is. It's my be a bit. All right. So ah you know what? Let's let's let's we're going to end this podcast episode at the coffee place.
00:50:03
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Right. So um but it's it's all slightly out of order because of the in enthusiasm of the whole thing. So we're going to jump back in in the in the car. I'm going to go to the coffee place and and then we'll kind of do an outro. All right. Yes. All right. So the car.
00:50:37
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Alright, can I get anyone a drink while we're here?
00:50:44
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I think I'll have a nice tea. Anyone, nice tea? Nice tea. Cappuccino with an extra shot, please. All right, all right. Wise choice. Cappuccino with an extra shot for you. All right, so this is me saying ADHD Ville is delivered fresh every Tuesday to all purveyors of fine podcasts. Feel free to correspond at will and rate us most Most marvellous. But wait, there's more I see. If you wish to see our beautiful, beautiful faces, below you can sally forth over to the YouTube.
00:51:27
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Yeah. And you can see David's beautiful. David's beautiful face. And he's youthful. Beautiful face. There's seven kilos left ah less of me than there was in my first video. Kilos. Really? Seven kilos. How European of you. I don't even know what kilos are. It's only because I don't know how to change the scales.
00:51:53
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In American scale measurements, that would be about eight pints lighter. Eight pints. Fair enough. And if you feel so inclined, you can pick up a quill and email us at at ADHDville at Gmail. dot com. called and yeah So that just leaves us to say come over ah to um to visit us on TikTok and you can go and find a David um the under the ADHD what's your tagline what's your what's your oh my ADHD journey David dash my ADHD journey yeah
00:52:44
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Yep, you can go and go and find him there. um You can find us in the cupboard of friends called Facebook and Instagram. But in the meantime, be fucking kind to yourself. And no I beseech you, fellow 80s tears, know thyself so that I'll come hither and get the flesh. And David, do you want to say goodbye to the good peoples? Goodbye, good peoples. all right There we go. There, says the mayor. That's that.