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Introduction and Welcome
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Music
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What's going on everybody? Welcome to another edition Cold-Blooded Conversations with your boy Wall and Johnny Bo. What's going on sir? How's your night going man? Oh we're doing good. Doing good.
Trends in Reptile Markets
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yeah you've been looking around anymore at reptiles again since you got bit by the bug again? I have been actually. I've been uh well been checking out what uh what the new scene is with the leopard geckos here again.
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Oh, yeah. Go ahead and share what you found out, man. like I want to hear this. So, had a cat pulled up.
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And, well, there was a lot of the morphs, let's say, like the sunbursts and things like that going on. Last time I was looking around. and well, they have been playing around with those morphs and been getting some new stuff out.
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I haven't looked into them in a while. I've been kind of looking at the the ball python scene again still, even though it's kind of nice saturated a little bit. the There's some new shit. and and I kind of found, like I said, what I've been looking for.
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They're there.
Breeders' Dilemmas and Market Challenges
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bill yeah Well, the scary part is there's on Morph Market, there's a lot of people you type in snake collections selling out their whole their whole system.
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Their whole breeding program and everything. Racks, all that stuff. It's mostly the ball python side. Oh, yeah. Oh, good. There was like 17 people on there that had their selling out.
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Selling their whole rack systems for the adults, babies, sub-adults. There's even two that's got, besides the snakes, got their rat breeding colony on there for sale.
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Are they saying, like, what reason? Just, like, something came up, or they're just... A couple of them on their posts that they had for their sale, they're getting out of it, and some of them's been career changes, but the ones that are getting out of it, they they lost the drive for it, which comes back to, well, the drive the way I look at it is, is yeah realize they realize they ain't getting rich quick.
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It's man. I mean... it's not man i mean They say ah Mother Nature's unpredictable. Well, dealing with Mother Nature's also unpredictable. Oh, yeah. Well, and and there's the one that, like Vance was talking about from Blue Zombie Morse when he was on. The guy, after all those years, his landlord now decides that you can't have him no more.
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Hey, what's up, Daniel? Thanks for tuning in. Shout out Chaka if you're still in here, buddy. Thank you, bud. so you yeah But yeah, that kind of situation with that guy sucks. But these other ones, like I said, I get career changes and everything else that it affects that where you don't have the time.
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Because I mean, I know the way way cost of everything is getting. But some of the people that I read their things, we're getting out of it because we don't have the drive for it anymore. but I mean, I get if you don't have the drive.
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But at the same time, when you've got over 100, almost 200 snakes and all this money invested in. and you you You overwhelmed yourself. Hey, what's up, Haas? Good to see you.
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So they kind of over they over, they just jumped into the game head first and thought they were going to do the whole um get rich scheme kind of deal. That's what I'm taking from it.
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But there is some people that you do you do get burned out and need to take a break from the stuff. I mean, I've been that way. Look look at the rough truck scene. I went 16 years without running.
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But at the same time, I didn't have the money and working all the time, didn't have time to do that stuff. And the kid's doing sports. But I get it.
Partnership and Generational Shifts in Breeding
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See, so what what I'm taking away from that, though, is let's say you go into it with a buddy. somebody who's really well trusted and really well connected.
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All right. And let's say they, well, you take shifts. You start to get where you were saying, where you might need to take a breather a little bit and step back. So you do that. And then, you know, buddy takes over for a little while and he needs to take a break and steps back and then it alternates.
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See, that's the, that's the problem. Like Vance was saying to do a collab with, you know, when you're dealing with this stuff, especially some of these guys are doing these collabs and sharing animals.
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Most of them aren't in the same state. So it makes it hard. I mean, if yes, if you got somebody local to you that's as passionate as you are and wants to stay that way and you can make it work on a 20 year, 30 year plan.
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Yes, but it's not always getting the sad part is it's not always guaranteed. Who's to say in the first three years you guys make a deal and They want to back out, and you're sit there you're stuck with 500 animals, let's just say, you know kind of doing a store-site deal.
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Then you deal with the drawbacks of it. Yeah, because you've got to have all the overhead for the feed, the lighting, the husbandry. You're basically seven days a week, 24 hours a day running that, no life out outside of that. But when you were together, you thought you were going be partners.
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i mean, it it just – That's why they say you don't want to get a big. um o that That reminds me a little bit. we I know we were talking ah recently here a couple weeks ago about Brian.
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um I mean, sure, they had a family system with him going with it. they run up But I mean, look what he did they did, though, Johnny. I mean, it there was a family thing that grew into...
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But the thing of it is, this generation, even my generation, people get into it for the wrong things. And it's they don't have the drive and passion like he does.
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You know what I'm saying? Ain't that the truth. So, um yeah, Haas, on that, dude, if it's going to be your first animal, I'd be honest with you.
Recommendations for New Reptile Owners
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I'd go with a beardie or a corn snake or a ball python, just depending on. and Corn snake, bald python, even a king snake, something. well maintain listed Main thing of it is, just remember, it's a 20-year commitment.
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Especially if you've got your husbandry, your where you keep it and stuff, up to date, up to stuff with everything it needs properly taken care of.
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Just remember... At least with a bearded dragon, I'll be honest with you, it's a little simpler to take care of other than – agree. The housing is a little different, especially for adults.
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You need a 4x2x2 style caging for it. Good heat spots. um Stay up on top of their – they eat different types of vegetables and stuff.
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Crickets. It can get expensive, but with a ball like a snake – You got worry about, depending on what you get, the mice, the rats, where you're going to get them from. um a ball python, you got to have the humidity just right.
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You can't just have, throw it in something and say, here you go. Now, corn snake, king snake, they're a little simpler, but they can be picked really picky eaters.
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um yeah Now, with with them, you can use different baits. I know people use aspen bedding mostly for their their kings and their corn snakes and stuff, but always have a like a humid hide. So when it comes time to shed that they got something that will help shed, but you don't have to have it where the humidity is going to be 80% and higher like you do on a ball python.
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And it depends on what room you keep them in. Like my house is an older house, so the humidity fluctuates during the seasons. So it's kind of you fight with the humidity during the summertime here in Ohio. So it's like you got to make it where that room is set up just for it.
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Oh, how well is in here too. What's going on, Will? How you been, man?
Family's Role in Reptile Operations
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But, yeah, i mean I mean, if you can find somebody that's as committed as you are and that's your primary focus besides your main job and your family that you can both can you have them all involved in it,
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More power to you. But it's got to be... There's a lot of people out there that are doing this solo. And, I mean, they do support their families with it, but a lot of them, their families aren't aren't fully involved.
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enough Unfortunately, Brian was lucky. He had his family, and he had a bunch of... and established a bunch of good co-workers. um My buddy, Aria, Steve Nelson.
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I mean, his family's... tenfold into their ordeal, and he's doing big things. Kevin McCurley's got him a damn good crew. He's a great ambassador for keeping animals and stuff. I mean, a lot of people don't like him either, just like they did Brian.
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But, I mean, he's a multi-million dollar business that does a lot of educational stuff. I was going to say, these guys don't also don't hold back like favoritism my opinions either. They'll tell you really the ugly truth of things.
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Wells, we'll set up a Thursday night, buddy. You can come up here with us on the conversations if you want to talk with us. and And the thing is, with the it is called Cobalt Conversations, but we've opened it up to anything animal discussion. Yeah, yeah.
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This is the only channel to the only podcast part where I will talk about politics because the laws affect us keeping our animals. So that's the only time that anything political is ever brought up is when it deals with our animals and shit.
Community Drama and Unity
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So yeah, we will have to, you'll have to get with us, man. And I'll get it set up on a Thursday. You can come up here and hang out with Hey, what's up, Robert Platinum? How's it going?
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But yeah, it's just one of those deals, dude, that it's, uh, see it's It's just one of those things. it's You're going to have haters no matter what. yeah i just and it's It's worse than the reptile hobby, man. Look what Vance said. but i also see But I'm going to be honest with you.
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I found out some other shit that we'll talk later about. I'll let you fill you in on when we're done. Okay. but it But there's drama. I mean, there's drama filled everywhere, but it's it's gotten it's gotten bad. I've seen behind the scenes and stuff on stuff where everybody's in the reptile community. Instead of uniting like we all should, it's back to that if you don't like me bullshit and everything else and it's getting old.
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My main thing is You want to do this? my The thing of it is the business is there for it, let alone having them as pets.
Commitment and Educational Opportunities in Reptile Care
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If you go smart about it, you can have a pet store slash um mini zoo if you would want to say. love
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ah love that, Wells. that That is the damn truth right there, buddy. I know all about the haters, Will. That's right. Tell them to drink some haterade. Yeah.
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We know too well. Haas, with that, it'd vary, man. I will send you some information through text message on how to set that up for those.
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so And that's even, I'll send it too for the corn snakes, all that stuff. I'll get you the get you the info you need, buddy. I'll text it to you. I'll tag you and Johnny in it. We'll do a group we'll do a group text. Hell yeah.
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Well, that and how another good one would be Johnny's specialty. a Fucking leopard gecko is easy to as another good starter pet too, man. so Oh, for sure. There's some with those, though.
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Oh, yeah. They're a pretty decent uptake, but you just got to watch your substrate you use for them. Didn't that make Mr. Bones? Yes.
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ah Now, the male I had, had some shedding issues. He had a couple of things which ultimately led to his head kind of swollen up. Right. And a I tried to bring him back from it.
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And I did best I could. You know, nature's unpredictable. He ultimately ended up passing from that. And the thing is, you'll have that. But, I mean, like, we've talked and you've talked. You've learned from it and you've become better better educated. Well, that's the other thing comes back to with leopards.
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Human hides come in a big play with those getting one set up. You can have a couple hides for them and have one set up with some peat moss and stuff in there for them to shed with. so And you do that with the snakes, too, and everything because it really helps.
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It'll help out. But... But yeah for sure um but yeah, you can you can if you get the right people, you get the right drive. i One of the peoples I follow, they just opened a thing in Michigan. It's called the Serpentarium.
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Katie and her fiancé, it's basically a mini zoo. It's got nothing but reptiles in it, but they deal with venomous up there because where they're at, the laws are kind of lax.
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on keeping venomous. So there's not so much, there's certain things, but it's not where you got to go through like Florida have a thousand hours for this and this and this, but they opened that up in the Southern part of Michigan.
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You can go up, do tours and get educational stuff and learn, learn about them. And I mean, you could do that anywhere. If you can figure out your town, your laws. um But the thing is, it's going to consume you like it's a job.
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let alone a passion. You've got to keep it a passion instead of just looking at it as a job. Yes. I'm trying to remind yourself from here and there. do do I still enjoy what I'm doing? Do I thoroughly get enjoyment out of it?
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That's why I really haven't jumped in Everybody's asking, do you breed the ball pythons? No, I keep them because ah i like having them as pets because I see them following these big breeders and these people You seen with Vance, you know, the projects and the upkeep and working a full time job. And then you come home and you put six or seven more hours in cleaning snake tubs and making sure they're fed, making sure, you know, they don't have mites. They don't get no sicknesses. and you're you're You're busy 24 seven. I mean, it's.
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Yes. And that's, and it goes for anything hobby wise you make of it. So. For sure.
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But yeah, really it it is. And in
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it's one of those deals at my age. I'd love to have something like that to give where I'm at besides a stupid pet store. But it's so hard, so hard with jumping through hoops to get what you need to even be.
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ah What is it like you can get donations for it and stuff. You're a nonprofit organization. You're just spreading. But still, to find the money to feed these animals, to keep the power on, all this stuff, for that kind of thing, it depends your area.
Balancing Passion and Business in Reptile Keeping
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It can be very hard.
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Even though you're trying to educate people and keep the keep it going for generations. I mean, it it'd be cool to do something like that. But it's just, it'd consume you to the point.
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Are you going to have the tough skin, the kind of step back for a little bit and breathe and then jump back in it? Or are you going to just throw in the towel because things get tough for it? I mean, it just depends on how you handle it. and what would What would you do in a situation if you, say you had the opportunity to do your leopard geckos again where you can do multiple morphs but also do an educational thing with them?
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What would you do if it consumed you so much? just I would... I would evaluate a couple of things. would evaluate why I'm doing it if I want to continue for the same reasons that I'm doing so now.
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And say I do, then I would take my time to go through, study, well, health issues, things like that that can come up, prepare for those in advance the best I can.
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um because i you know once again going back to what happened before i tried to prepare for these very same health issues but i didn't have the necessary things to
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what am i trying to say here word it as i didn't have the necessary instruments to pass it up as best i could so in the end nature took its course so going forward I, you know, verse myself up on on health issues a little bit more.
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See what can happen. Clear for those bases a little bit more. Make sure that you're doing everything in your power when, like you said, it can get to be a 24-7 gig.
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um Right. Do that to where that doesn't come about anymore. um Really get deep into it and decide that, you know,
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I want to see how further I can provide their living. If I want to make this a life's hobby and a life's goal, then really embrace it for them and set up a whole portion of of living for these creatures so that they can get the best they can out of their life.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, because I mean, you can be so people are you've seen it. You've seen the stuff Brian's done with. He's always you know, he's a good example of because of what he keeps, what he bred.
00:20:36
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You can be prepared, but still Mother Nature can be a because she can be an asshole. And you still end up with mystery stuff. Why certain things are done or whatever, even though you're doing it to a T, it still happens.
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you You're still dealing with Mother Nature's unpredictability, for sure. Yeah, it's just... You can have...
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You can still have everything. i mean, everything in the world. What's up, Trot? Eva? Thank you guys for tuning in over from Johnny's page, man. That's awesome. chris good see you But yeah, you can do anything. And I mean, I've seen it. um Camp Keenan, one of the other YouTubes.
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because of this deep freeze they had in Florida, he lost two croc monitors, even though trying to keep them warm in a and a warm building and everything else, two of them ended up still freezing to death.
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It's just the way it happened. And I mean, this was an insulated, big area, everything. That just shows you how Mother Nature can say, well, you're done, you know, but unfortunately.
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Yeah. it's It's a fine line between... I know people say, you know, don't blame yourself for what Mother Nature has in store. And also a fine line between also caring about, you know, the very living creatures that you're taking care of. Walking a fine line between those blatant opposites. You know? it's Oh, yeah. hey And if you go watch, and it is, it's called Camp Keenan.
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If you go watch where he said the bad news his camp, um that man throughout the whole hour, hour and a half video beat himself up on what he could have done better to prevent those two from, even though the others all was fine.
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You know, and that's the way it is because let alone the passion, his animals are also like our our family, like our dogs and stuff. I treat them as their family.
00:22:39
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Yeah. And that's how passionate, and that's where your passion comes in for these. Even though, yeah even though, you know, they're not technically pets, they're still living,
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wild animals even though they were bred and born in captivity they still got that mentality of the wild in them but you see it all the dogs have it because they come from wolves and stuff you
Understanding Reptile Behaviors and Handling
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can still see it no matter what the breed is so it's the same with your beardies I don't care if it's been 30 different years of bearded dragon different bloodlines they're still going to have that that instinct in the wild.
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Look at why their beards get black. yeah It's a defense mechanism. That's been a thing in the wild. It's one of their things and they swelter and open their mouths at you yeah and make their beard black to look big.
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That's been in their life in the wild. They do it in the wild. yeah Hardware into the genes. Oh yeah. And it's their defense mechanisms.
00:23:45
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And there's never ever An aggressive reptile. They are they can be, a you consider them aggressive, they're being defensive because of their territory and they're startled. They get it.
00:24:00
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Now, like your li lizards, big lizards. We're talking like your monitors, your tegus. um Well, you got to put more time into them, what they call desensitizing.
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Get them used to human handling. Don't force it. Reach in and grab them. You've got to work with them, too. dude It's like my guana. He's that way. you We have to work and work. You're going to get hit. You're going to get cloned. You may get bit.
00:24:29
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But as long as you work with them and stay calm, you'll eventually have damn near puppy dog tamed animals. you know it Once again, it goes into, you know.
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Like said a couple minutes ago. eat Rather than being pissed at it. Thank you Jersey. Good seeing you. Hey Scorpio what's happening? Thank you guys for tuning what up But yeah. i mean That's the thing. is You can have the animals.
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But you also got to put the time in. yes To work. You just don't throw them in. Feed them and stuff. You've got to show. they They do have feelings. They just got different ways of showing them So I mean.
00:25:13
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Oh, agreed. It's just one of those deals. You've got to have the love for it to for keeping the stuff. Yes. it Well, part of the passion for these things is going as far as to understand even a shred of how they work, right?
00:25:30
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Oh, du and one of the most smartest animals there is in the reptile community that's kept, and it's because of the challenge of it, anything in the monitor family.
00:25:42
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They are they're honestly, you may think they're big, dumb, mean lizards. They are some of the so most intelligent animals on the face of the earth. You make their brains think. As far as the awareness, like looking into something's eyes and seeing awareness, that I can honestly say from the times I've seen them work and do what they do and just existing, oh they're calculative. They look like they're thinking. They look like they're thinking of what's going on next.
00:26:10
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yeah There's awareness going on there. Go over to go. and Anybody in the chat wants to check us out and get some, see something cool and everything else. um Jersey, you're, you kill it in the chats for us. I appreciate you so much. but after we go to this newar But go over to nerd and watch Kevin McCurley on his training of water monitors from right outside of the egg to adults.
00:26:35
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Yeah. They, it just blows your mind. And these things walk around his facility like freaking your dog in your house.
00:26:46
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You come up, you know how most of them, you can't touch them in the face. And he, I mean, he's like literally shoving his hand in their face. They're not biting. And you can pet them right on their face, rub their face, everything. else And he's got snakes and shit. He does that with. Hey, Johnny. Hey, how you doing? Good to see you.
00:27:09
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But yeah, he, he's one of the, you know, but, Monitors need big areas. so for sure. No matter what breed it is, you need big areas, you need patience, and lots of on-time and one-on-one sessions, little sessions, 10, 15 minutes at a time, and then all of a sudden, every other day you do that, it will, you you could end up with a scaly dog.
00:27:41
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I mean, in every now and then. Every now and then, yes, you'll get their cantankerous time because breeding season for these animals, any of them, they're a little more moody than normal. So use it you're going to get their usual shit.
00:27:58
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But other than that, any other day, it's you work with them and feed them and stuff, it works great. Once again, even deal with leopard geckos, they were like that. Oh, shit.
00:28:11
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Dude, you get some of those. I've seen videos of those little fuckers feisty and squawking at you. It's like, yeah this little thing thinks it's 10 foot tall and bulletproof. Yep. My one male that I first got, he was famous for doing that. You could instantly tell when that season started because he would instantly run up to the front of the cage and just stare you down.
00:28:32
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He wouldn't do that except for during breeding season. And then he's got to look they do their little fucking tail fat tail flip because of that shit. It's like... The beardies are the same way, man. They get, coming oh, God, they'll sit down they'll bob their heads and all this shit.
00:28:48
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Oh, yeah. But it's interesting to see, especially the leopards, how small they are. But, man, they could be they can be very temperamental, too.
00:29:00
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Yes. Yes. I got got bit a couple good times by that male I had, man. He loved to nip. I'll tell you the worst to get bit by.
00:29:11
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Get bit by an iguana.
00:29:15
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You wouldn't believe it or not. it did I was fortunate that it did do what some of the people I've seen on YouTube videos having them where they had to go those sweetes and stuff like Brian did. so But do you remember that when Tabasco got him and freaking right on his gorilla tattoo?
00:29:36
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Yeah. He ended up, what was it, I think 16 stitches just from a one quick bite from a large male iguana because it was breeding season. Yep. Yep. People say, you know, it's a different animal. It's a whole different animal during breeding season, different than what you know.
00:29:56
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Yeah. hey but the But like ball pythons and everything else, like ah it's breeding season, they're not so bad. But you still are going to have your little spicy danger spicy noodles.
00:30:10
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yeah the They're still going to be kind of striky. Everything else, it don't matter how much you handle them. Everything else, you're going to still have it. Especially if you know he try to lift it up and try check the eggs. and Oh, Jesus. they're there're they go It's mother instincts, man.
00:30:26
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It don't matter what it is. But there's ways around it. You can avoid it. Oh, for sure. Don't be like... Don't be like one of the other channels with where he breeds retics and shit and he actually antagonizes them and they strike just so people can watch his fucking show.
00:30:44
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i don't support any of that. Well, I used to like this channel until I found out he was on a talk show on a podcast and admitted he does it just to get views.
00:30:55
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Yeah. I unsubscribe to the channel when it comes to that shit. That's bullshit. Because Kevin McCurley... He raises retics and berms.
00:31:05
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Yeah, he'll have them every now and then have a mama that's a little defensive. But other than that, he can get the retic eggs out and they and not even get struck at. And she just still just moves them off the eggs. Oh, yeah.
00:31:18
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But this guy, every time he does that. Defensive nature, and you know what? It's selectively defensive versus pissing it off, and it's going to be constantly pissed. Yeah. Perfect scenarios. Yep.
00:31:29
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But yeah, I mean, that's where you see the difference in the keepers of these things. I mean, especially the big snakes. Those are some, those things can hurt you. You get jimmy and jim get an foot snake wrapped around your neck with nobody around or anything else, even around your arm, you're going to eventually lose your arm because it cuts circulation off so bad.
00:31:50
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a I was, I was mind struck, let's say years ago when I first learned the whole Oh, ball pythons. you know that They're cute. They look you know kind of adorable. Then you get reticulated, which huge. and then yeah then you got Then you got, of course, the big massive, which is right here on the upper corner of the anaconda, the big girthy.
00:32:16
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It may not be the longest, but it's the heaviest snake there is in the construction area.
00:32:24
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and then And then, of course, Jersey, thank you for throwing everybody's other channels up on there. I love it. I love it. Jersey's killing it again, as always. with But no, it's just one of those deals that, you know, you can have them. um Another constrictor that I would love to have if I had the space and for not being a huge, huge snake, boa constrictors.
Reptile Morph Market and Genetic Health
00:32:51
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They're such intriguing animals because there's so many different ah locales that you can get of boas, but the most common is your red tail.
00:33:04
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They'll get about 10 foot, 10 or 11 foot. Yeah. And then those things, they're cool as hell. The colorations are awesome.
00:33:14
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Yes, they can be moody, but it is neat listening to when they're in their defense. Because they hiss. They sound like a cobra growling. Yeah. ever heard the big king cobra, they've got like a growl to them.
00:33:28
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But once again, the more you work with them, the more that they'll be able to be handleable. Yes, you'll still have some that'll be what you call cage defensive.
00:33:39
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You think, oh, because they're striking it. Once you get them out, they calm down. They're protecting their what they consider their home. They think they're getting attacked. So, I mean, that's always going to be that way.
00:33:53
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oo It goes into, you know, base behavior versus that separate individual's personality. i mean, people go through it all the time. Right. Well, once again, Mother Nature instincts of all ever since they've been put on Earth.
00:34:07
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Yes. So, but yeah, boas are cool. There's one that I i like. They still haven't come down enough on price for it. And it's a It almost looks like a freaking orange.
00:34:21
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I mean, it is literally the color of an orange. o Ooh. Yeah, it is fucking beautiful. It's like a sun boa or something, but it's they've got a red tails done like that where they've made them.
00:34:34
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It almost looks like a ah literally an orange. Kind of like a creamsicle color. Like that orange dream ball python I sent to you a couple weeks ago. Yeah. much Imagine that just the ah without the white in it on a boa.
00:34:50
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Yeah. See, that goes into what we were talking about not too long ago, but, you know, really getting that itch about the beautiful morphs, you know, and then you start get into it and you're like, oh, I could spend some money on this.
00:35:08
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Oh, man.
00:35:12
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But, yeah, I mean, well, and that's how far it's come, and and there's a lot of species now. See, that's the thing. You get into morphs too. You got to watch. We've talked about it before.
00:35:23
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It is – you got to change bloodlines. you can't You can do two or three times with a certain – same bloodline in certain animals, but you got to keep it mixed with different bloodlines from different things to keep producing these.
00:35:42
Speaker
You know, you can't just do the interbreeding of them because then you end up with your, like in bull pythons, the spider gene has that real nasty wobble. But there's some of them. um Bearded dragons. I've seen where people's overbred the same bloodlines. you know And they get they get all the funky fucking deformities and same and But it's all across the board, but you see it more common in the the popular animals, the leopards, the bearded dragons, the ball python community, the corn snakes, the you know, because
00:36:19
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they don't add they don't add a different bloodline in there to keep going. It's the same chromosome. It could be the same morph, but it's from somebody else and that's a bloodline.
00:36:32
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Yes. ah Aside from appearances, it's going to have degenerative effects. Like, it's not going to know how to feed itself. It's not going to know how to function. It could be looking two a different ways and not even know that it's looking somewhere. Well, hell, it could have missing eyes. It could have missing arms.
00:36:48
Speaker
But also, the other thing is, too, that's where the, what I hated is, is the those farming, where they have, like, throw in hundreds of bearded dragons and stuff,
00:37:01
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in one little thing because they collected a bunch of eggs and just throw them in. You get them with missing toes. okay I got a bearded dragon prime example of that. My special ed, nub tail and missing and toes because he was in a farming system where they keep hundreds of that they just ship around the pet stores.
00:37:23
Speaker
i I've heard some dare I say controversy on that over the years. Oh, it's it's consistent, dude. That's That's where a lot of them are. A lot of them are act like that, man. It's just. oh Made me want to stop so much supporting the the the pet store trade going on and actually find selective breeders.
00:37:45
Speaker
Well, my thing is, there's your big chain corporates. yeah Petco, all that stuff. They have the.
00:37:58
Speaker
They deal with these farmers, the farm what I call farming reptiles. Yeah. um But they keep a bunch of these animals, breed bunches of them, and everything just to sell them.
00:38:11
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Now, my local family-owned pet store that I do business with, I got them to change now. They're actually buying off of Morph Market and Reptile Breeders to bring stuff into the stores.
Responsible Pet Store Practices
00:38:25
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Nice. Nice. Yeah, so they still get their, you know, mass production of crickets and supplies like that from certain places. But a lot of their animals now come from reputable breeders that actually has a good name in the in the breeding business for their bearded jaggings, lizards, and all that stuff in there.
00:38:45
Speaker
Nice. Yeah. So, I mean, I made a big step and the reptile displays and animals that they're selling now has jumped up because I just, I threw ideas out and they listened and they're actually been so moving animals like crazy.
00:39:02
Speaker
Nice. Oh yeah. See, that's the other thing I like too. When you see people that make your advice and they don't take it as condescending, they actually take the advice and it helps them move forward better.
00:39:16
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and ah in a better direction.
00:39:21
Speaker
Right. Yeah, I mean, it is what what it is. and it's It's just... the does that you or me?
00:39:35
Speaker
It was you. Somebody was calling you. i was like, it's vibrating. I'm like, I heard it. I'm like, wait minute. That's to be Johnny's phone. but yeahs I didn't hear at first.
00:39:46
Speaker
And then... Well, it just started coming through the headphones, and I'm like, what the hell? I'm like looking at my phone. I lifted up the laptop to see if it was something under the laptop. Then I heard it come through.
00:39:57
Speaker
But no, man, that's the thing is it's awesome to see, too, where you can suggest something for small you know pet stores that aren't corporate shit. Yes, you're going to pay more for this some of the stuff, but they carry the name brand stuff, and it's cool to shop local. Yes, I get it's pricey.
00:40:17
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But how I support it all the all the time when I can.
00:40:22
Speaker
For sure. For sure. Especially when you know it's it's solid, it's reputable, it's efficient, it's actually taking care of what it has. Yeah.
00:40:33
Speaker
Yeah. and And the other cool thing is if they don't have it, they try their damnedest to order and get it for you. I can appreciate that. Working well with the customer.
00:40:44
Speaker
Oh, yeah. They they do well. And mean, it's cool. um So, all right, Bubba. You got anything else you want to talk about tonight, sir, on the animal world?
00:40:57
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ah I ran it over pretty much what I had in mind. All right, everybody. Once again, guys, thank you all for tuning in. Chatterbox, thank you for being supportive. Jersey, once again, thank you guys. holy Jersey, especially in the comment box, taking care of everything. Love it. Appreciate it.
00:41:16
Speaker
Thank you guys for tuning in. um I don't know if anything's going on tomorrow night. I know we are off Saturday. There's no shows because of being Valentine's Day.
00:41:28
Speaker
So if you guys got your significance, others and stuff, enjoy your day together. um
00:41:35
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Monday night, me and Johnny will be back up here on Speedway Stories. We got a special guest coming up on the show for us. um It's actually a buddy of mine from the rough truck world. And he does a lot off roading too. Cecil Frazier.
00:41:50
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nice Tuesday night. i think Glick's got a guest coming on for Glick's house of music. um Wednesday. It's still kind up in the air. Other than as you guys tuned in last night, we had the special announcement of the new show started in March.
00:42:07
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That Glick's doing him and Kayla. Thursday. Thursday. We're going to have another treat for you guys. um We're having another Speedway Stories. with I'm going to have two guests on the show at the same time Thursday night.
00:42:23
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My buddy Corey Butcher from We Broke Garage and Jimbo Finchner from Penny Pinscher's YouTube channel. We're going to have a little collab session with some a couple of my local racing buddies and everything else. And we're going talk motorsports and our YouTube channels and everything. And we're going to just hang out and kind of have a bullshit session with all four of us on the channel Thursday night, um, doing a kind of a giant collab between their channels and nonsensical network and talk about what our plans are in the motorsports world for the 2026 season.
00:43:04
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um Yeah, we'll do that. And then next Friday, think Glick and them and Kayla is going to do a movie night. I'm not 100% sure.
00:43:16
Speaker
And then we're right back on there again.
00:43:22
Speaker
so but thank you all again for tuning in and stuff. And you guys all have a great Thursday evening and we will catch you on the next one. Bye. Until next time.
00:43:36
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Thank you.