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Episode 101 - Ball Don't Lie (feat. Brandon Zezima of Zez Says)
5 Plays9 months ago
A very very scatterbrained analysis of the 2024 NBA Draft
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Transcript
New Format and Studio Setup
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Speaker
And we're back. This is the new format. We have replaced Atticus out with front of the show, essentially the fourth mic on the show now. Brandon Zezima guys from Zez says, yo, and if you're watching this, because this is probably one of the first episodes in a while that you can watch this, you'll see that we are in a new studio undisclosed location.
00:00:25
Speaker
I don't even know where we are. He knocked me out when he saw me and threw me in the back of the car. That's right. Yeah, it was one of those CIA black van takings. When can I go home? You can't. All right. Unfortunately, you can't. As you can see, we are in a child's bedroom. If you look behind us, there's a stuffed whale. Can they see that? Yeah, they can't see that. Yeah. And and Avengers. Well, it is.
00:00:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, we do. You're just talking about the Avengers earlier, too, and how much it's fallen off. But yeah, because we don't have any of them. That's what I'm saying. It's these characters. It's those characters that that will kept it alive. All from grace. Yeah. I live through a prime time though. Yeah. But no, this is my bedroom.
00:01:16
Speaker
Unfortunately, when my family moved here. Like four years ago. The wallpaper was just here and. We said we were going to get it changed or removed and here we are four years later and it's still there. If the camera wasn't so finicky, I turned around and show you the door that finally got placed on my room. Was there just no doors? No door here for four years. Wait, even when you were here prior?
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,
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It was, you know, again, my dad listens to this, so I don't want to get, uh, you know, too mean, but it essentially became a invitation to walk into the room. Um, by anybody, by anybody, when I didn't really want anyone to come in this room and I can't tell them, no, there's no door. Um, and even now, dude, um, the door doesn't lock. So the door is there. It doesn't lock and it doesn't actually close. You can push the door open.
00:02:25
Speaker
And that's it like just because the the pin of the door doesn't fit inside of the like they got like my co-workers husband put it on and he did such an amazing job which you know kind of sounds contradictive when I say the door doesn't close but dude he was out there in the front yard with like a saw because he had to move the hinges again the audience can't see this if you're listening this might be really ridiculously boring but
00:02:54
Speaker
You can't like the hinges were on a different spot and he cut into the door to flip the hinges around to make sure it would work. So honestly, just to get some sort of block here is nice. Some sort of privacy that allows me
Focus on Sports, NBA Draft, and Free Agency
00:03:10
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to it came out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It could have been way worse.
00:03:13
Speaker
Listen, it's doing its job as a door. Yeah. Now doesn't have all the functions like locking and pin fitting perfectly and it can be pushed open, but a door nonetheless. Yeah. Yeah, I'm thinking of getting a little some sort of lock on the top because.
00:03:33
Speaker
Yeah, they're still able to get in. They're still able to get in. They they at least they will be seen now. But the thing is, if you knock too hard, the door will open.
00:03:47
Speaker
So there's any consolation. It's almost like my room. Now, granted, it does have the pen, but there is no lock on the door. And everybody finds my door for whatever reason, an open invitation to open at any point at any time of the day. You're the first door at the top of the staircase. So literally, as you're at the top of the staircase, it's right there. But you know, I just. That's what it is. Yeah.
00:04:10
Speaker
So this this setup is still a little janky. I don't know if this will be the podcast room for right now. I feel like it will be because I was going to try the basement and then the basement looked a little bit weird to the lighting and there's off. The lighting in here is not that better. I'm completely into the dark and you've got all four lamps beaming down on you here. There's no real even distribution, but.
00:04:35
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But yeah, we're back. We're making it work. Without Atticus. I unfortunately could not kidnap him in time to get him here. It's the only reason.
00:04:52
Speaker
Yeah, it is what it is. So this can be a very sports centric episode, I think. I feel like we have a lot to talk about with the NBA draft just being a couple of days ago and free agency impending in two, two or three days, two, three days. Yeah. Well, by then, I think the free by the time this gets released agency will be up and going.
00:05:15
Speaker
But yeah, if you don't know who Brandon is, he has no podcast named says says they cover pretty much every sport. I got to be real for a second. We it's really just basketball. Yeah, I know. I'm listening. I'm trying to know if you like basketball, football, like basketball, football. If you like basketball and football, that's your guy. Come to says we sometimes talk about other stuff. All right. Olympics is this year. So this is going to be.
00:05:44
Speaker
When was last Olympics was when 2020? Yeah, summer Olympics. Yes. Right. Yeah. Summer Olympics. Right. This is going to be the first time in says his history. We will be covering Olympics as they go on. I will say that my co-host ghost is huge into the Olympics. Likes a lot of sports you wouldn't expect he would. That's that's what I'm like. He's very peculiar. When we start talking to him, when it comes to it, you're like, you know about this sport. It knows a lot. I'll give him his credit.
00:06:09
Speaker
Yeah, when he said he was in the Formula One and hockey, too, I was like, damn, I didn't peg you as one of those guys, but that's it. He knows his fair share. We're definitely going to be talking about all this stuff, even though the NBA is over in terms of the season. We're going to be getting high level play basketball with that. Yeah, with coming to the Olympics. So I do soccer, too. We got a lot of soccer going on. We got the Euros. We got the Copa right now. Yeah, a lot of fun. And again, Olympics, too. I got soccer. So, you know, you like your sports.
Podcast Dynamics and Language
00:06:40
Speaker
Hello. Yeah, the link will be in the description that says yeah. But you know, if you're even seeing me now, that means you're listening to laundry in the basement. So that's right. Do your fucking work. Listen to them more often. Share with your friends. Stop being some bitches. I don't know if I can say that. I'm sorry. You can't. I don't know. We curse on this podcast. All right. Sorry. It's funny. I don't curse in front of my parents, but I curse a lot on here. And you know, your parents and I know that my parents listen. It's pretty they never say anything.
00:07:07
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Sometimes my dad would be like, you should probably not cuss this motion. I'm like, well, you know, I'm not going to lie. That's how it was really early on with mine. How much my dad would listen to every periodically, not all the time, periodically. He goes, man, really? Well, in the F pump, it's like, yeah, you're right. Like, I got to like calm it down. So like me and goes for like maybe like half of like a month period.
00:07:28
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We're like, we're going to try. Yeah, did not last at all. I don't think one episode doesn't have as crazy ones. Yeah, it's again, it's hard. It is just hard. I talk. Yeah. And not only that, but sometimes a nice cuss word thrown in somewhere. It gets your point across a little bit better. Maybe that's my problem. I think I use a little too much, you know, but it is what it is.
00:07:52
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But yeah, so the NBA draft just happened four for four on UConn prospect. Yes, sir. I'm going to say that I'm really excited about that. I didn't think Cam Spencer was going to go. Where do you end up? I want to say Memphis second round, right? This is the thing that I hate about the draft.
00:08:08
Speaker
I think I talked about it with my friend JB last night. If the picks traded, they make the guys wear the hat to the team. Oh, my God. That's trading the bank. Thank you. I hate that. It's like you're taking away a kid's biggest moment. Like, who knows? Like that picture, like, does it mean like, yeah, you're on stage. Yeah, you're the commissioner. The hat. Yeah, that's wrong. We already have the information like Luca in the Hawks gear is crazy.
00:08:36
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You know what I mean? Everyone knew about the trade already when he got drafted. It's not the same thing, but this is what it kind of reminds me of. And granted, they have to do this because the other team could win, right? But in the conference finals or the finals, when they have to make gear for both sides and then the losing team, that gear is out there. And it exists.
00:09:03
Speaker
Do they, do they sell it at a reduced rate or they don't sell it at all? No, I don't think they sell it at all. Okay, so they just send it out to third world countries. Yeah, that's, I was gonna say, that's like the joke is like, oh, a bunch of kids in Africa are about to get it. I'm pretty positive they, I joke, yeah, but like, it is. But I do think, yeah, and I think to be real, like, that's probably the best use for it.
00:09:22
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to like maybe not just third world countries, but like giving it to the homeless to, you know, make use of it. Don't just burn that stuff like you made it like. But like it reminds me of that stuff like because there's pictures out there like, you know, kids in other countries granted close to close for them, right? That's all that matters. But like we will see the pictures, right? And it's like stuff that's like.
00:09:45
Speaker
oh or it's even if it's like oh when people wear like conference champion yeah like shirts and it's like yeah but your team didn't your team lose the championship that year after they made it i was gonna say this this might be a dagger for ghosts which you know he might not listen to
Super Bowl Party and Tangents
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this but
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Imagine the amount of kids wearing 2016 NFL Falcons Super Bowl gear. Oh, my God. NFL NFL Super Bowl champions. Atlanta Falcons 2016. Imagine how many you know Matt Ryan Super Bowl. And that's what I'm saying. The Matt Ryan Super Bowl MVP.
00:10:17
Speaker
Man which like to be fair they probably should have won that thing. I'm not gonna bring it up. But yeah, like just I don't know why I went on that huge stand about about it. But yeah, you gotta go ahead 16 Super Bowl, right? So Patriots and Falcons, right? So
00:10:32
Speaker
We're up there Yukon, but our friend that went to Eastern, which is only what's immense way over a moment to have a super party at their place. They have like one of those bigger dorms where it's like four bedrooms, a whole big ass living room kitchen. Like it was big. So we were like, all right, I'll go over there.
00:10:49
Speaker
So I was living with uh, it was me and Marv. Me and Marv and two of our friends, one of them drove, she drove over the four of us, right? I was like, yeah, we're probably gonna have a good time, you know, probably gonna get lit, whatever. So we get over there and obviously the game begins and it's getting, it got bad quickly, right? So one of my friends sees me like, visibly depressed.
00:11:12
Speaker
Closest one to the screen Visibly depressed so she said she had brought a cooler drinks. So she starts handing me one at a time. She's like here Take this like I'm like, I don't need this right now. She's like just take it make you feel better So, you know having a few drinks and just kept getting worse. So she's like just forget about it. Just forget about it, right? Drink after drink after drink
00:11:33
Speaker
And then Marvin sitting across from me. And then I think they scored like after they was like, so it's twenty eight to three. Then they scored a touchdown and then they missed an extra point. So it's twenty three nine after they scored the second touchdown with the two point conversion on top of that. No, there's nine. And then they kicked the field goal of twelve. Yeah. And they got to what? Twenty. Twenty. Yeah. So when it got to twelve and it felt like they had a little momentum and then high tower has the trip sack. Yeah. We're like.
00:12:03
Speaker
Is this happening is something happening right now and then me and more were like, you know, like oh every time, you know Did someone ever like we're doing a drink? I don't know And then someone was like yo if the pats come back and win Who shotgun in a beer with me and there's a few people like yeah, I'm down. I'm down. I'm down and someone's like yo says you got to be down I'm like, alright
00:12:24
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And I turned to the friend that kept handing me the drinks and I was like, I'm gonna be honest, like at this point, I was like, I've never shotgun a beer. I don't know how to do it. I had never shotgun a beer. So I was like, I don't know how to do it. And they're like, she's like, it's OK. You know, maybe you won't have to. I don't know. Like, like, you know, they're going to lose. Don't worry. Keep going, keep going, keep going. Like, and I just kept having her feed me drinks, even when they started to come back. I'm now pretty drunk.
00:12:50
Speaker
They have made the comeback, they won. And someone's like, oh, you guys got to keep up here under the bed. We're doing we're doing the shotgun. I was like, all right. So they have one of those like they didn't want to get the floors dirty. So one of those big ass bathrooms or you could walk into and it's like you have like a decent amount of space in there. Yeah. Walk in there and everybody's like, I do like this. And they gave me I had my keys, popped the side of it, whatever shotgun, whatever.
00:13:12
Speaker
And it's funny because like as like we're from depressed to excitement My boy alex and my co-host from zess says ghost All right the other way we're excited to then depress obviously goes being a falcons fan And alex is like as sad as he is he's looking on his snapchat at the time And he sees the progression like people were recording like at the party were recording us because we had a lot of like mine like Similar friends, but that were up there with us. We've seen a sad. Oh, man. Carson out whatever
00:13:41
Speaker
All of a sudden and then the shotgun. He's like, what a fucking progression. Right. So then we leave. I have videos this to us. There is as we're leaving. Right. The cooler that my friend had. We're like walking out of the dorm and I'm like walking down the hallway of the dorm. And I don't know what I was singing or something, but I was just hypo shit. And I'm like dragging the cooler like a toddler.
00:14:07
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Down the hall Then there's like other step we're walking to the car and then Mars like yo, what do you gotta say? I'm like we fucking did it and he's like we And one of our other friends she went down home to go watch it And then she was on her way back up and then she's like, oh you guys hype we're like, yeah Even though we had left like we're just so high
00:14:35
Speaker
She's like, all right. So she came up and then we're like, we're hungry. Shit. She's like, all right. We'll see what's open. Only a 7-Eleven was open on campus at the time. She's like, we'll stop at the 7-Eleven. Drive over with Park Cross Street. You know, you know, parallel Park Cross Street. Walk over. We're still pretty lit. At least I was. And she's like, all right, everybody hold on. Wait for me to get out the car. She wants to do anything stupid. And she maybe takes a second to get out the car. And all you hear is like a loud honk.
00:15:05
Speaker
and a bit of a screech of some tires. Oh, what happened was. Brandon was so high. Tunnel vision, because he's also really hungry, made a beeline across the street. As a SUV.
00:15:24
Speaker
Is driving down the road? And he had a hit this breaks hard shit to stop to not hit me. Yeah, not a care in the world. I just kept running right into that 7-eleven and she turns around thinking something happened and she just screams. Brandon, what are you doing? Like I want ice cream. So that could have been that could have ended. Tragic bro. Very awful, right? I would have gone out on top.
00:15:55
Speaker
But that would've been a terrible way. Yeah, that would've been an awful way to go, dude. Imagine? No. It didn't happen, though. Nothing bad happened. Yeah, nothing bad happened. You're still here. Yeah. I had a phase in school. I don't think I'd do this anymore. Granted, I don't really get drunk anymore, where I don't know why this happened. But when I got drunk, I became a runner. I don't know if I ever told you this. I don't know if you ever experienced it either. I don't think I have, no. You're lucky.
00:16:24
Speaker
Yeah, I've experienced the mini version of it. You didn't you didn't run. We walked. Oh, is this when we were and we were bossed? I was what a bad time. I was going through a lot of emotions. I don't think I had like the emotional bandwidth to run.
NBA Draft Picks and Analysis
00:16:40
Speaker
Typically, I'm running because I'm excited. I'm happy about stuff. That was the tough trip. But anyways, yeah, that was rough. But we're good. I don't want to try not to. Yeah.
00:16:54
Speaker
Yeah. Shout out the pads. Shout out the pads. So yeah, do we want to hit on draft stuff? Yeah. As we try to transition. Yeah, I know. Where did we? How did we even get here? I said four for four on the UConn guys. So what happened was four for four. And OK, this is what happened. It was four for four. And then we were talking about the hat thing. And then I made the comparison to football. Right. And then we made the comparisons to the Falcons. Yeah.
00:17:19
Speaker
This is something that happens a lot on this show where Atticus and I do not understand the tangents we go on sometimes, and we just end up at a place and we're like, how the fuck did we get here? So that's par for the course. Sorry about that. Trust me, it's normal on this show. So first overall pick, Zachary Richache. Don't know if I'm saying that right, but I don't love it. So disrespect.
00:17:45
Speaker
Notice of the kid. Great opportunity. First overall is still first overall. Is he the next Anthony Bennett? I hope not. I don't know. They're there. They were cheering like they just drafted the French kid from last year.
00:18:01
Speaker
Yeah. And that's the other thing, too, man. What's up with French basketball right now? It is three of the top six. I mean, when he is obviously in the class of his own 100 percent, even on the court now, like we're seeing that now he's in the class of his own. He's probably going to dominate the league for the next 10 years. I have no problem saying that. I think that's a fair thing to say. He's really developed for somebody. That's a rough.
00:18:24
Speaker
Yes. Well, it wasn't. Yeah, the. We'll get to this trade in a little bit, but. Well, like the Dillingham trade with the pick being in twenty twenty twenty thirty one or whatever, it's crazy that it's that far away. But by the time we get there, he's still like twenty five. You know.
00:18:41
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It's so funny about those is like the running joke is like when they trade for one because that's like the deepest you can trade away is a seven pick seven years into the future and people just say like, you know, they just traded away for a 12 year old. Yeah, I mean, it's virtually guys 19 when they're coming in the league. So do the math. That's crazy. So, yeah. Listen, the thing is, I would love to give a better analysis of Risha Shay.
00:19:11
Speaker
I just have nothing to go on. I know he's a good shooter. I know he has kind of a little bit of length on defense. You know, he's a little bit agile. He could block shots, I think, from what he said in his own like draft mockup, like after he got picked, they were asking, you know, asking him like what he brings. And he's like, I could bring shot blocking. I, you know, I have defense. It just doesn't seem like his game is polished enough. It doesn't seem like he has one of the higher ceilings in this draft.
00:19:38
Speaker
I think you're getting a high floor guy. But that's not really saying much, because if he stays at that floor, then you just wasted the first overall pick. The thing that's tough is everyone kind of knew this is a weak draft going into it. Hence why so many people were trying to trade out of the spots that they had. Yeah.
00:19:57
Speaker
Same thing with again, going back to that Spurs pick, I love dealing him. I think he's going to be a solid piece for a team. I don't like the fact that the Spurs traded him away. I love that the Timberwolves, if I'm the Timberwolves, I'm ecstatic. I got him huge. Let's be honest. He's someone that could spot up and shoot. He can create. I loved his game in Kentucky.
00:20:18
Speaker
great vet to learn under too with Mike Connolly. Exactly. Um, you know, that's not someone I would have traded away if I'm the Spurs. But like, at the same time, if I'm the Spurs, and I'm sitting at eight, I think there were rumors that cling it they wanted to cling in. And he obviously goes the pick before
00:20:37
Speaker
they're sitting at eight and they don't like anybody why not just trade away for two picks for two i think one's just pick swap and then the other's unprotected so it's like yeah man grab a couple extra first i know it's again seven years from now but like you can use those picks in another trade maybe in two years to pick up another star you know so i get it um
00:20:59
Speaker
But yeah, there's not a lot of talent, I would say. Now, again, there are people that will surprise you that go later in drafts. There are guys that aren't big names that end up being some of the best players from drafts. So we'll have to see. But Rishashe won. I don't love it. Again, don't know if I know anything.
00:21:23
Speaker
I thought it was going to be SAR. It's been SAR, the whole process. I mean, there were rumors within the last two weeks. Granted, this might have been like late pushes. So who really knows how much truth there was to it? But like, I had seen a lot of stuff on Clinging possibly ended up at one. Yeah, this is one of those drafts where one through seven could have gone one and for the worst reasons.
00:21:51
Speaker
It's not one of those where it's like, oh, wow, all seven guys are worthy of number one. It's all seven guys could go one because they're just. They might be. Yeah. I forgot who it was. I don't know if it was Kevin, Kevin O'Connell, the guy for the O'Connor. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it was him or if it was someone else for the athletic who basically was like. There are absolutely no tier one guys.
00:22:18
Speaker
and I'm really struggling to find a tier two guy, we might have a lot of tier three and below guys in this draft. Now, I say this where two of my boys went top seven in Steph Castle and Donovan Clingan. I think they're gonna be fantastic role players in the NBA. I don't think, you know, I think there's a lot for Clingan to learn.
00:22:47
Speaker
I think offensively, the style of center he plays isn't what the NBA is anymore. 15 years ago, Clingan goes one lock, you know, it's just not what it's not how the NBA plays anymore. One of the things going into this season that I was kind of looking for out of him was, you know, the talk was that he was learning to develop an outside shot. You can see it didn't see too much of it.
00:23:15
Speaker
It's tough because he didn't have to do it. Yeah, fair. You know what I mean? The offense was so good this year for Yukon that they just didn't need it. And he terrorized anybody and touched it. Exactly. He was he was dominating the paint. Cam Spencer was lights out from three. Tristan was lights out for the perfectly built team. It's it's yeah like it was such a great roster.
00:23:39
Speaker
that they didn't need it in 2021 or 2022 2323 actually it's 2023 with
00:23:49
Speaker
with Adama, there were times when that offense was really stagnant because Andre couldn't shoot, the spacing was bad, so you needed Adama to shoot threes when he got open. And he started knocking them down towards the end of the year, and that obviously really helped and opened up the UConn offense. And that's why everyone kind of thought, oh, if Donovan can develop that trait for 2024, they're gonna be a lethal team again.
00:24:16
Speaker
and Yukon was lethal, but just for a lot of different reasons.
00:24:21
Speaker
Sidebar on this, Hurley has said that this is the most talented team he's had at UConn so far. This one, this upcoming one, which means we're definitely not making the final four. I think we're going to get we're going to lose in the second round just because I mean, anytime you like what they've already done is already incredible back to back. Yeah. And again, like that, the statue is, you know, I'm already calling for a statue for the guy.
00:24:48
Speaker
Two and back to back years, you know, six in. However many like in my lifetime, right, six or five, is it five notes? So we have two plus two, then we have the two. Calhoun, three, Ali, one, Hurley, two. It's six. Yeah. I mean, hey, we just win so much that I lose tracks sometimes.
00:25:11
Speaker
But yeah, I think there's a lot of things for Clingon to learn. I was excited to see his three point shot because I knew that that was going to help him transition to the NBA. And then he just never developed it because he didn't have to. Like he didn't have to. And that's awesome for Yukon. But for me, I want to see that out of Donovan going forward because spacing in the NBA is such a huge thing. Now he is going to a team that is in full rebuild. That has like centers on the roster. Two centers. I don't know what they're going to do with Aten.
00:25:42
Speaker
Aiden, again, I didn't watch a lot of Trailblazers basketball this year. Was it what dinner? Yeah, it wasn't something to watch. But for me, Aiden, and again, I could be wrong on this because, again, I just don't watch him enough. But everything I like that I feel I see out of him makes me think he doesn't like basketball.
00:26:02
Speaker
Mm. You know what I mean? It feels like story in the winter. There was a story that come out that he was snowing, I guess, really badly. It was icy conditions and he wasn't able to leave his neighborhood. He couldn't leave his. Yeah. So he was like calling the team to let him know, like, I'm not going to be able to make it because I can't leave the neighborhood. And then they, you know, an NBA team. So I'm sure they have the money, the resources. They sent like. A rescue team out there.
00:26:31
Speaker
to get him out. I don't think you ever made it to the game. I guess the ice was that bad then. Yeah, I guess it was that bad. I don't think he's lying, but it was just like. In the playing better towards the end of the year, they kind of started going through him a little more huge shock or kind of trade for a guy that's still he's talented. He's incredibly talented. It's just it feels like he's playing basketball because he's tall, not because he loves the game.
00:26:56
Speaker
It feels like he's been forced to play basketball because he's seven two or whatever. I think he's like at least seven. And he also went one. You also want. I think that was probably the biggest detriment to him going one. Yeah. He was the guy that won like five. Exactly. None of these expectations. And he also didn't just go one. He didn't go one in a draft like this here. He went one in a draft that had Luca Doncic. Had guys. Yeah. And so you think I mean, Hatray Young.
00:27:23
Speaker
Yeah, Trey. I mean again Trey probably ends up being a better pick than him. Yeah as much I don't like Trey but But yeah
00:27:33
Speaker
It's going to be weird. They have three centers on the roster and they drafted clean in. So I don't know what's going to happen. Well, like one like you said, doesn't like playing basketball. At least it seems like who knows. The other one physically doesn't play basketball because he's literally finds a new injury every 20 minutes. He's on the court. Robert Williams, I think there is a clear pathway for cleaning.
00:27:56
Speaker
Oh, yeah, he's going to get a lot of time and in short order. I mean, they're probably going to keep one of the two guys. I say you keep time, Lord. Get what you can for eight. And the thing that's really tough for me and I'm not obviously out on the guy yet, but we need to see a jump out of school.
00:28:17
Speaker
because I think you had a. Well, if we're here, I mean, look here, you know, on a bad team, obviously, it's tough. It's just I would start. He came on heated up as of late. He got hurt part way through the year, too. So there's a lot of things that happen. There's a lot of factors. I just hope for a better year for him.
00:28:37
Speaker
I think it's a tough spot to be like a lead scoring guard, in a sense, where you already have an Anne for any Simons roster. Yeah. So it kind of feels redundant at that position, especially them both being small. Clearly, we've seen these small, small two guard line two guards out their lineup.
00:28:56
Speaker
struggle in situations. I mean, the same organization did this less than a decade ago with Dame and CJ. We're doing it with Darius and Don. I saw I saw a tweet not to cut you off. I saw it was an Instagram comment about Donnie going to the Blazers and someone goes, finally, Dame has some help.
00:29:19
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, and
00:29:40
Speaker
Um, because again, everyone was like, wow, I can't believe they're passing on school, even though they kind of, again. Have a scoring guard already, like it would have been kind of weird, the back court with him and Lamello. So Miller to me made a lot more sense for that basketball. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Jeez. Yeah, but yeah, I just, you know, I'm hoping I'm hoping for a good scenario for Donnie because I want to see him succeed.
00:30:06
Speaker
Steph Castle got an incredible, and I mean an incredible fit over there with San Antonio. He's gonna be able to distribute, he's gonna be able to play make. Again, another guy that I feel like didn't get to shine as much as he could have somewhere else because Yukon was so good. There was no reason for him to create offense because we had four guys that could score the ball around him.
00:30:35
Speaker
Everyone talks about the jump shooting and the jump shooting is a problem. But again, he wasn't asked to do it at UConn. And when he was in clutch moments, he was knocking those shots down that game against Alabama where they decide to play.
00:30:50
Speaker
Basically, just if he was on the perimeter, you didn't guard him. He went two for four from three and they were big threes that changed the way Alabama played defense against us and it opened the game up for us to that go in for alone, just taking them making you have to. Yeah.
00:31:06
Speaker
That's what I, that's the, and again, they did this to Andre in 2023 too, and he was. I think he's a, he's better. He's better than Andre at shooting. You know, elsewhere too, but that was the biggest thing with Andre was if you're open and they're not guarding you, you take them because then they have to come out.
00:31:28
Speaker
They have to, if even one or two go in, they now have to respect that and they will no longer give you that shot just to stand there and get the ball at the three point line and then look to pass.
00:31:39
Speaker
And again,
Sports Media Critique
00:31:40
Speaker
that's what they were doing with Adama for a little bit, too, is Adama would get the ball out on the on the top of the perimeter there, and he was just looking to pass. And so people were sagging off on him because they knew he wasn't going to drive from the top of the key. And if he was, then you have all that space and time to let him come down and, you know, set up your defense. So listen, Castle's going to get.
00:32:03
Speaker
crazy open looks because there's times where they triple team one Vinyama. Yeah. And on top of that, the transition game for these guys is going to be crazy. And the point I was trying to make, because I know it was the shooting, but again, another thing that people do not give Castle credit for and maybe they have and I just haven't looked at it. He's so like he can get to the basket really well. He's extremely athletic. He's going to get to the rim.
00:32:32
Speaker
And that opens up so many passing options to when be. They got to get more shooters, obviously, but when be, you know, the cell Johnson. I don't know who else they're going to pick up, like Branham still there. Yeah. Ties, uh, uh, Trey Jones, Trey Jones, younger brother. I know so hands there. I don't really count so hands because I know he doesn't really make open threes. I find it really interesting. So hand. I mean, I think Castle is going to be better, but like, yeah, they're kind of the same prototype.
00:33:03
Speaker
decently sized wings can play really good defense and pop trotted so hand out there in a lot of point guard minutes early on last year and struggle. Yeah, I've heard a lot of the pre draft into draft stuff for castle was that their his camp really was pushing for whichever team to draft him to give him opportunity with
00:33:23
Speaker
point card minutes. Yeah, that was the thing. He wherever he wanted to wherever he was going, he wanted to be the point guard. He did not want to play to. He's now going to, I guess, get that opportunity. Yeah. I assume if you're drafting him there for knowing that that's what he wants, that's how you're playing him when they drafted Dillingham eight before the trade.
00:33:45
Speaker
I was happy because I was like, this is still going to enable Steph to have like, I was like, this is tough because it might force him in an off ball situation where maybe he won't be able to shine. But what I was like, damn, that backwards can be crazy. Because if they let Steph ball handle and they just keep switching like, you know.
00:34:06
Speaker
off ball, on ball, you know, whoever's taking that ball up, like that offense could be a little bit more dynamic. And, you know, you have two dynamic guards now added to Victor when not one manama. You know, there's a lot of places that can go.
00:34:23
Speaker
And, you know, again, they traded him. So it's that's that was a clear sign to me that it's like, OK, they want Steph to handle the one because if they don't want that pick and there were so many guards out there at that point, you know, then it was alongside with them. So they're really giving him that opportunity. We'll see.
00:34:45
Speaker
We definitely see the rest of the draft. This was a draft. I mean, that was mainly as we had been told for over a year now with this class is going to be not a lot of star power. A lot of role players. A question. Edie too early. This is tough, so I knew.
00:35:11
Speaker
I heard I'd heard that the Gris were trying to get Donovan. They wanted center. You could see it in their offense. Obviously, nothing from this year from them counts in my eyes. No use job played nine games. The whole they had. They were missing job. They miss Bain for a little bit. They they had the most injured roster this year. Yeah, they had some stat where I could have misunderstood it. I felt like I read something where they were like the most injured team like
00:35:39
Speaker
Ever. They had ever. I think maybe not ever, but I think they've rostered 33 players. There's like an insane number. Yeah, that makes sense, because every time I looked at the grizzly starting lineup, there was a guy I didn't recognize. There's a guy that was like, who's this? Like, how is this person in the league?
00:35:58
Speaker
So, yeah, I know that they were really missing the centerpiece. You know, Steven Adams not having him anymore, like really showed in their offense. They don't want Jaron Jackson really playing the five. They want him playing the four. Like they just don't want him playing primarily at the five. He will play the five no matter like what this year. But they wanted to have a little bit more balance where he could play the four. They have a center. And then, you know, you know, parent with John him and Bain.
00:36:28
Speaker
So, you know, you lose, you lose out on Klingon because they were trying to trade for him apparently. And, you know, that didn't go through. So you kind of just take. I guess what you think is the next best center. Again, I don't know how their draft room is working, but like.
00:36:47
Speaker
If they think Edie's the best center available, because, you know, the heat ended up picking up Kaleel Ware because it ended up being, you know, the same thing that the Grizz want to do. I think the heat want to do where they put BAM at the four and they have Kaleel Ware play the five. They're so dynamic, Miami. Yeah.
00:37:05
Speaker
I think so, too. And again, like maybe they just want to spell BAM a little bit, have him get some time off the court. But I have a feeling that they're going to be playing them at the four and five at some point this year. You're going to see both of them, which you can't try it out with Tlingit and Sinoge at one point last year. And I think I thought that was really funny, but you could see how quickly that team got exposed because the lateral quickness wasn't there. No problem shooting. No problem shooting either.
00:37:32
Speaker
Um, and if you have that line up in Andre Jackson's out there with you're screwed. Yeah. Which like, you know, again, still won a championship. Don't matter. Don't matter. But but yeah, I. I don't know about Edie. The thing that's tough is clearly he has talent. If you look at the progression that he's gone through from his freshman year to now, he's.
00:38:01
Speaker
He like and again, like a lot of the advanced master metrics to show like this kid is incredibly efficient. He is such a high volume scorer. That it's crazy. And again, I was one of those haters during the year that it's like this dude's doing it against bombs in the Big 12, like, you know, like.
00:38:21
Speaker
You know, again, you get to the national championship and Clingan locked him up and he still dropped to like 40. Yeah. You know what I mean? And granted, a lot of it was at the end of the game when we were already in foul trying. He gets the line a lot. I feel like that's something that's translatable to the NBA. The only thing that worries me. He didn't really have a perimeter game in college. He didn't have a mid range game in college.
00:38:49
Speaker
His forte was getting the ball on the block, backing some guys down. And again, they don't have offensive or three defensive three seconds in college. So you can take as much time as you want. And a lot of his game is getting the ball on the block, backing someone down, someone that's usually smaller and not as athletic as him, just absolutely backing them down and then just getting a shot or getting to the line.
00:39:17
Speaker
And you can't really can't do that in the NBA. You can't do that in the NBA. Oh, you can't. This is going to get exposed. It's going to be it's pulled out on high screen and rolls. Yes. He can't shoot any form of a jumper. No, he can't defend on the perimeter. He can't defend on the perimeter. He's big and I don't watch a lot of produce here. I know he's tall, but there's going to be being tall and having this actual skill. Is he a lob threat?
00:39:44
Speaker
I don't think I really saw him. You can be tall. It doesn't mean you're a lobster. Yeah, like the athleticism to be a lob threat, I don't think is there in the NBA. OK, now he's he's there. You know what that means now? You're now pushing Triple J out to the perimeter full time. Yeah, and he could shoot. Triple J so dynamic. I don't I want him near the basket, causing havoc.
00:40:10
Speaker
I I don't I guess I get the whole you want to big, you know, even if it's like to start the game, it's four minutes. Then now Jackson's the starting five and bring another guy in guys like you can just find a big man in free agency for like eight million a year. Yeah. You can trade like a like a second away to Portland and get rob like. Yeah. Who's all the things that you'd actually want at that position despite all the injuries, the ability to move on the perimeter, the lob threat, you know, all that.
00:40:41
Speaker
I'm not sure I should on the kid great opportunity like awesome for him drafted much higher Honestly, then I thought he was gonna go I thought he was gonna be late first round dude mid midway through this season people were like, yeah This dude's a second-round pick Yeah, he's not NBA ready. He's on the NBA talent. He's a second-round pick and he went nine, you know and
00:41:02
Speaker
Again, I think that speaks to how bad the draft is. And again, yeah, you're right. I'm hoping for the best for him. You know, again, same thing. I don't mean to shit on the kid. He's clearly great. And he is where he is because he put a lot of time and effort in and, you know, clearly the talents there. But ultimately in your best players genre, who lives at getting to the room? Yeah. Where's the space?
00:41:29
Speaker
I don't I don't I'm sorry. I don't I get it, but I don't get it with this player. No, neither do I. I don't know. Moving on to again,
Bronny James and Future Plans
00:41:41
Speaker
this I didn't have many things about any guys on this draft class because again, it's not great. You know, which is tough because I was like, oh, we could talk about the draft.
00:41:56
Speaker
But I'm trying to like think, you know, I thought Mathis Bizellis going home to Chicago is really cool. I think that's a really cool storyline. I don't know enough about that background. I saw a lot of like excitement from. So you're saying a home. So he's from his friend. He was born in Chicago. I don't know if he was raised in Lithuania or if his parents are just Lithuanian. OK. And he has Chicago ties. Yeah, Chicago ties. And he was, you know, ecstatic to be there like crying. He's like, thank you guys for picking me. Like, I'm so happy to be here.
00:42:23
Speaker
So that's going to be really cool. Nicola Topich, of course, the Thunder would get him. Yeah, it just feels like that's the guy they're looking for. That's who that's what I wanted. I was hoping he fell to the heat just so we could have another one of those guys. Mm hmm. You know, Nicola Jovich, Nicola Topich. Oh, yeah. A couple more years, we'll get Nicola Jokic. You know, pair them all together.
00:42:51
Speaker
But yeah, I wanted to get him. I'm not mad about Kaleel where I think he's he's going to be good next to BAM. And he won the heat draft is it figured out going to be fine so that I'm not worried about it. I thought it was really cool for Tyler Kolek to get drafted to the Knicks.
00:43:15
Speaker
I just, you know, I'm happy when I see big east guys going. I know it's Shireman went to the Celtics 30. Iguodara went a couple of picks after I. Devin Carter was a lottery pick, too, if I'm not mistaken. I was really I was hoping that he would fell to the heat as well. I love Carter. Yeah. Yeah. Thirteen to he's a killer Sacramento. I didn't realize his dad was Anthony Carter.
00:43:42
Speaker
Some there was some family ties in this draft. I didn't know this tells you how much it was not panic Did not know that Cody Williams was the younger brother to Jalen. Yep That was really interesting he's if he's anything like his brother fuck it's gonna be Jared McCain was one of my favorite players in the draft just because
00:44:11
Speaker
Go ahead. I don't have a problem with him, but like I have problems like ESPN did, but go ahead. OK, I didn't see anything that ESPN did. I like Jared McCain because so many people hate him. I like the fact that like he goes out. He's good. He's a he's an incredible shooter. I think he's going to be very good on that Sixers team because they need the shooting.
00:44:31
Speaker
But I just like the fact that he's like authentic. You know what I'm saying? Like he's himself like a lot of people despite all the shit that he gets from. Yeah, he does. Yeah. You know, he constantly gets called like homosexual and like sometimes the F slur. Yeah. Just because he paints his nails and.
00:44:50
Speaker
You know, it's the same thing with Caleb. Yeah. Like, I think I don't know if we talked about this with Caleb, too, but Caleb gets the same shit. Oh, yeah. And guess because the guy went number one overall. So I went over all. And you know what? Like one of the fate like. And again, this and I do had I had a little bit of hate for Caleb because.
00:45:10
Speaker
He started his career at OU. Him and Lincoln leave, OU kind of fell off a little bit, wasn't happy about that. And then obviously, he's one of the best quarterback prospects in however long. And even though it didn't really work out at USC, cuz Lincoln Riley doesn't know how to put together a defense or his coordinators, doesn't know how to pick coordinators. I was always a little salty cuz I was like,
00:45:34
Speaker
Would have been nice to see Caleb and Sooners read for, you know, three years, but. You know, when I don't know if he was asked about the nail polish or if he was responding to someone on Twitter, but they, you know, again, they were, you know, basically making like, you know, the gay accusations against him. He's like, like, because he paints his nails again, which is so innocuous. Someone wants to paint their nails. Who cares? But he's like, yeah, your girl loves him. It's like, I love the brain. Like if someone is going to bring that energy, that's great.
00:46:04
Speaker
You know, it's it's so funny. It's so endearing. We can like go more into like Chicago and like bear stuff and football stuff like as we get closer to the season. Well, yeah, we'll do something football wise. Well, you know, we talked about it. We'll try to do like a mean ghost to the. Yeah, the division. Yeah. Schedules. Yeah, that you guys. I can't wait for that just because I know ghosts in half the Falcons got 15 and two. Right. It's going to be fun to listen a lot of time before that. Just a little preview. I really, really, really like Chicago.
00:46:32
Speaker
So do I really like Chicago the thing that's tough is I think that division is really good You know, they're not gonna be the best division in football, but you know the lines are tough the Packers are gonna be tough with Jordan love
00:46:49
Speaker
The Vikings, I think will be the worst team in the division, but like I still think they're sneaky enough to take wins away from some of those teams, you know, in the division where, you know, if they drop it, like if the lines drop a game to them, I'm not surprised. It helps when you have the best player at that.
00:47:07
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. When you have Justin Jefferson, who's a complete game changer, he'll get you three games at least. Yeah. You know, I'm a crazy tangent. We are talking about Jared McCain here, but want to go back to McCain. Yeah, going back to McCain. What did what did you have? So we're talking about all that stuff, right? You know what happens when they drop the player, right? So they have the player, you know, obviously, if he's there, they have him walking the stage and they might have a double screen, you know, two screens up. The second screen is showing highlights.
00:47:52
Speaker
ESPN as like sports property like Be responsible and like do what you're supposed to do for sports Yeah, and put the sports shit out. You know what I mean? It's like all you're doing for that is like feeding into the fucking system Yeah, you're subjecting into more hate at that point and it's like what are we doing? Like the guy's a freaking good basketball player He's drafted where he got drafted for a reason like give him his just-do I know it's such a small thing here that I'm going off on but like
00:47:59
Speaker
his screen was
00:48:22
Speaker
His highlights. No, I agree with that. And I oh my God, I I hope he goes out and fucking tears it up. So do I. It's one thing if like he is doing a tick to like the Williams brothers did their dance like when they got when Cody got picked. It's one thing if Jared does a little tick tock dance or whatever on stage or right as you know, right when he gets called, you know, because again, it builds into his brand. That's who he is as a person. He likes to have fun. That's whatever.
00:48:51
Speaker
But showing his tiktoks instead of his highlights is crazy like that. You know, yeah, you know, that's that's what it is. Yeah. The same thing with like, again, going back to the NFL, where they like pick the most like sad storyline to talk about the guy. He's like, oh, yeah, he lost his mother in in 2002 to a car accident and then his dad killed himself 10 years later in front of him before his first ever football game. It's like,
00:49:20
Speaker
They also threw 40 40 years. It's like just talk about the touchdowns and what he's experienced in his life shows how he can get over obstacles. It's like, bro, just say that line. Don't don't like the again, the one that always takes out is like, yeah, his mother was a crack addict. And it's like, I don't I don't need to know that. That's personal stuff, man.
00:49:40
Speaker
That's very personal stuff. I don't need to know about his mom. If they want to if they want to do one of those pre thing interviews where they do like the video montage or like where they have like the thing. Did you see the Klingon one they did? There was like a four minute Klingon one. ESPN. I don't think I got to see it. I can send it to you, but like they did one with Klingon and they interviewed him a little bit to talk to dad. I think you have a brother.
00:50:02
Speaker
I don't know somebody else. They're interviewing him to like like the lens of like what he did for high school and everything like that. And he had the opportunity to go to bigger programs and he wanted to be there because it was close to home and it's where his mom wanted him to go. Yeah, that kind of thing, which was sweet. You know, and it's like, yeah, that's somebody on the platform and they bring it up great.
00:50:24
Speaker
But like to make that like the narrative of the player. It's like it's it's it's a lot and I get it. You're trying to fill time because you guys are so consumed with making it such a big thing and being on air for three plus hours, but.
00:50:40
Speaker
that you got to pick something else, please. We're also we're also talking about these kids a year in advance before the draft. You know, they're likely they're going to go into the draft. You have all this time in the world to prep. You have you're paying the best of the best in regard in regards to being analysts and all that. And some do a great ass job of it. But for like the majority of those panels,
00:51:02
Speaker
They just give you the very, very bare minimum of like analysis on some of the players. It is just like I don't even really want to watch the main broadcast anymore, but like a bittersweet. But the beauty of NBA is TNT, where it's like maybe it wasn't even the best hard hitting analysis. It wasn't. But like you wanted to. And I don't see you. I'm not going to speak for everybody, at least for me. Wanted to watch it. Yes, it was entertaining as hell.
00:51:28
Speaker
especially obviously the halftime obviously pregame if you stuck around for after the second game was over on a Thursday night and they just went for that next hour plus mayhem yeah everyone's asleep beautiful to watch they're on cable TV past midnight they could be saying whatever they want and boy did they yeah that's that is another thing that i think is missing too like and again that that might just be the magic behind uh
00:51:58
Speaker
like TNT there like inside the NBA is so different from other shows like other analysis shows because those four guys are so connected and so like in touch with each other pause
00:52:19
Speaker
But you know what I mean? It's like they they they understand each other. They they they can. Chemistry really shows off the charts. Those guys just they're incredible personalities and you put the four of them together and it's like, you know, it's something TV. You can't really get that on other TV shows. And here's the issue, because and the thing is, other programs have tried to emulate what TNT does and they can't do it because they don't have the talent or the chemistry that you were.
00:52:46
Speaker
alluding to and it's one of the few programs where you have a host an Emmy award-winning host and Ernie Johnson obviously like respect us through the roof of the guy where the color commentating of the other guys on the on the desk at the desk on the panel are
00:53:05
Speaker
like nonstop cutting him off, keeping him from going to break when he needs to go to break. And and they allow it because and he's OK with it because he knows it's coming. And you allow it to breathe. And the thing is, a lot of other hosts wouldn't be able to do what Ernie does, because when you're that host, you feel like, OK, I'm at the I'm at the helm here. I'm controlling everything that's going on. Boom, going to you. OK, now I'm transitioning to this. Now I'm hitting that.
00:53:34
Speaker
And Ernie can do all that stuff, but also just take the back seat and allow them to have that free reign. And the network allows them to have that free reign because who cares if we're 10 seconds late on a commercial break to let so and so get their point off or do whatever stupid thing they're doing. Yeah, like that is that will that that leaves a mark. I get that gets clicks. Exactly. It gets clicks. It gets ratings. You know,
00:54:03
Speaker
Who cares? Again, who cares if you're 10 seconds late on a commercial? If you just clipped something that's going to go viral on Twitter and draw more people to the show, it pays for itself. But yeah, it's just it's the chemistry. Those guys genuinely like each other. You don't really get that with other like obviously you had the skip and Steve and a first take where those guys respected each other. But I don't particularly think they liked each other. You know what I mean?
00:54:32
Speaker
I'll say and who knows how much truth there is to it. I'll say from when I hear it from Stephen A's perspective, he'll outright say like me and Skip disagree on plenty of things. But he has like a lot of love for Skip because Skip was somebody that put his hand back out when ESPN turned their back on Stephen A with Stephen. He had a situation in like 2008 and 10 ish range where he was let go from ESPN.
00:54:57
Speaker
and brought him back in. And now look, Stephen is like the biggest sports personality on the planet. Yeah. Who knows if in Stephen's work ethics or the roof, like he would have done his other things, but like getting the platform to be back. And then that's exploding the way that. Yeah. And then creating what we know now as television, not just sports like, yeah, other network television shows are like, oh, let's fuck analysis debate.
00:55:22
Speaker
Yeah. Let's draw clicks. Like it's not just a sports. They say outlandish stuff because it gets clicks. No, you're right. And here's the thing, too, like, you know, like you said, Stephen A's work ethic, you know, maybe he would have he would have done something else. He would have done something else.
00:55:39
Speaker
But like having a high work ethic does not really get you anywhere without having a little bit of luck and someone to help you. And, you know, again, I completely understand that with him and like with him and Skip, you know, now, I mean, like, I didn't know that, like what you were saying. But like, yeah, like Stephen, we might not know who Stephen is now if Skip doesn't help. And that's nice. I didn't know that. Yeah.
00:56:07
Speaker
But yeah, especially now with the way those shows go on, there might be respect as a partner, as a person to go at, basically go to battle with or whatever, because you're going head to head. But I don't think there's the love as much as what you go with inside the NBA.
00:56:33
Speaker
What I will say is nowhere near this, but at least for like those types of like studio shows where it doesn't feel like one of the few that's like not a debate. And, granted, not everybody loves the guy. I personally like him. But first things first, I'm Fox with Nick Wright, Sartre and Kevin Wilds. And I don't know if you watch any of it now. It's a great like.
00:56:53
Speaker
TV show, like, yeah, they try to do like the bits and stuff like that, you know, like Nick writes a huge chief's guy, so he does a lot of chief's related things when it comes to that. Kevin Wilds, like, has his own fun and stuff like that. But I'm in Broussard. Everybody's known Broussard for years. They've built a really good TV combination. And the other thing, too, and other shows have been alluding to it now, but it's like there's such an oversaturation with how many people were hearing on a show.
00:57:23
Speaker
Like there's two people on a panel. There's for these shows, especially like the NFL, like good, good, like good God. Like we don't need to have the Sunday night crew be. Who's the three guys that are in the studio now? There's Rodney. Ronnie Harrison is Doni Dungy. So there might be Dungy is a booger as well. Is he not with them? Is he over on Fox now? McFarland. Yeah, see, that's I mean, again,
00:57:49
Speaker
They're just not drawing my attention enough for me to even care about. No, because they got three or four of them in the studio and then they kick out to the desk that's on the sideline. And there's five people on that panel. Yeah. And it's the same thing with the Amazon Prime game. They got five on that. And then they kick to one team that's on one corner of the sideline. There's three of them or four of them. They're like trying to talk as there's a lot of noise going around them.
00:58:09
Speaker
Then they kick to another the opposite sideline with another group. It's like there's too many people. And the other big thing is like the reason why we're not getting the analysis anymore is there's no time. All these networks are so consumed with getting to their ads where you're maybe having a two minutes total of time when they're actually on TV during these breaks like halftime, pregame, whatever like that before going to another ad. It's kind of exhausting. But yeah, sorry, tangents. Yeah.
00:58:42
Speaker
Yeah, we probably have to wrap this one up. It is into the into the midnight hours here. But the last thing I will say, again, wrapping up the NBA draft here, which is, you know, Pick 55, which we all saw going from a mile away. Bronnie James to the Lakers. And at this point, it doesn't matter.
00:59:10
Speaker
If they were going to use 17 on him, I think that would have been really, really bad. This is the Lakers are still a roster that needs pieces if they were going to pick him 17. You know. Just, you know, what it's a waste. You know, I think. There, you know, me and my friend were joking about it. It's like, oh, what if another team snags him to, you know, piss off LeBron or whatever, but like,
00:59:40
Speaker
Bronnie is, I want to say bad. That's like really unfair. Cause clearly, you know, to get to a D one level program, you gotta be somewhat good. Um, but like Bronnie's not good enough to take just to, you know, like waste a draft pick on even honestly, even a second round pick.
01:00:04
Speaker
might be high for the kid. Listen, they're guys that were like on draft boards out that that Ronnie was much farther down, not getting projected for a lot of people not to get drafted. I don't mean to cut you off. Sorry, do you have? No, I don't have much more to say, honestly, I am.
01:00:22
Speaker
I'm happy for Brown, I guess, you know, happy for Bronnie. With the 55th pick, it really does not matter. You're taking flyers on literally any one at that point. Yeah. So that's where I want to go with it. Unless it's like your I don't know, maybe the first 10 picks into the second round, maybe 15 pushing it. And especially in a draft like this. Who cares? Yeah, like.
01:00:48
Speaker
Other guys, if you didn't get drafted, like plenty of guys that don't get drafted the next that night, the next day, like guys are getting picked up for free for what's called for the summer league rosters. I mean, as soon as the draft is over, we signed what's his name? DJ Burns. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Big dude from the state. Yeah. For some reason. Cool. Like, you know, is he going to make the rounds? Probably not. Like, who knows what's going to happen? Yeah. In terms of the brownie thing, like, yeah, you're taking flowers at this point. And guess what?
01:01:17
Speaker
I get it. If he's not LeBron's son, is he getting drafted? No. But you know what he did. And it's like we we have to appreciate like what we're seeing right now. Like I understand like, oh, people feel like he doesn't deserve it because the talent may be not there yet or comparative to other people at his age or in his draft class. But like the other day, he got drafted. You know what I mean? Like just a year ago. We thought the kid was going to die.
01:01:45
Speaker
But he had cardiac arrest on the court at USC. And then thank goodness, you know, that's and that's the biggest story of all. He ended up being OK. And, you know, some rare heart condition, I guess they figured it out, able to return to the court as quickly as he did after the fact. He had drafted to the same team as his dad. It's an incredible moment. It's like it's an incredible moment. And despite like all the work people are going to be talking about for weeks and for months and years.
01:02:13
Speaker
But like this is a moment that's like this is something legendary. Like we're watching one of the best players who've ever played the game getting to play alongside his son. Like pictures were going out after the game or like there was the meme. Did you see the meme about breaking news? It turns out LeBron sleeping with his new teammate's mom or something like that. That's funny. I saw a picture of him holding Bronny. That's when in like 2005 or whatever. And it's like these dudes are teammates now. Yeah. Like that's crazy to see, you know, young little as an infant. So.
01:02:44
Speaker
Yeah, you know, Bronnie will make the roster at some point this year. They will. They're going to play a game. They're going to share the court. It's going to happen. That that is too big now, too. Exactly. They're like, it doesn't matter how bad Bronnie is in summer league. It doesn't matter. He will step on the court with LeBron.
01:03:03
Speaker
If the Lakers play in Cleveland this year, it's that game. No, it's that game. Now, listen, if if Brian is getting 20 minutes a game, that's a problem. The Lakers have bigger problem. That's a problem. Now, the kid can still develop like we can't just hard cap because what he looked like now, like we're talking to three years now from now and he could be a really solid player in this league.
01:03:28
Speaker
We don't know. We have no idea. Yeah, you know, I'm just it was a really freaking cool moment. I get it. Like it kind of feels a little artificial, you know. Yeah. Rich Paul telling teams not to. Don't touch him or he's going to Australia's.
01:03:46
Speaker
The hilarious people were going to draft him. He wasn't going to Australia, but like, yeah, no, he wasn't going to get drafted. He would have been the Lakers were going to give him this moment. And if they decided not to, like he was going to get picked up for their summer league right away. Right. But again, it's like at fifty five.
01:04:04
Speaker
You're not missing out on anyone in those last five picks. Anyone you want for some of the equals still probably be there. Can we stop being so consumed with looking at the thing to point out? That's a problem. Just like enjoy something really cool for once. Yeah, that's why we watch sports right to enjoy something really cool to see moments. Yeah, we don't get to see that often like that are incredible to us like a dad and his son are going to be on the same basketball court on the same team nepotism happens all the time in sports.
01:04:32
Speaker
Uh, like this isn't something new at all. You know, um, I get, I know a lot of people were saying like, Oh, he wouldn't have been drafted if he wasn't the brown son. It's like, okay, well he is. Unfortunately he got drafted because he is the brown son. Yes. But like, this is something that they do all the time. You know,
01:04:59
Speaker
I don't know. It to me, it doesn't matter. Good for him. They're going to have their moment. I was going to say we got to get to. Nets Lakers. If they play this year, because I do think this is probably bronze last year, you think so.
01:05:15
Speaker
If it's not his last year, it's second to last. That's on that. He's he's he's going to give us he's going to get the farewell tour. I think Braun is I'm not going to say egotistical, but, you know, it's going to be he's not going to do the this is my last game at the last game. Absolutely. You know what I mean? He's we're going to know about, hey, this is my final year in the NBA. And I think that is coming in the next two years.
01:05:41
Speaker
That's going to be an expensive ass ticket. I'm going to have to pay for two years when he decides that, because I'm going one of those fucking games. That's what I'm saying. That's why I want to go this year, because then I don't have to go the following year. I want to go now so that I don't have to pony up two thousand dollars to be because that's to touch the concrete wall in the back at the very top last year of the stadium. Twenty twenty six. Is going to be a very expensive year for me, woke up.
01:06:10
Speaker
World Cup. It's my 30th. I want to go to Japan in April of that year, which obviously you're welcome to come with.
01:06:20
Speaker
Yeah, because the F1 race, the way that they the schedule is, it's in April of is in April this year. Usually it's in October. I think they just moved it to April and my mom wants to go see the cherry blossoms in East Asia. And I was kind of like, oh, maybe this year, 2025 is Japan, but she wants to go to Korea instead. So I was like, all right, 2026.
01:06:44
Speaker
April, if the calendar for F1 stays the way that it is, like I already said to the guys after because we were just, you know, we came back from Montreal and I said to them, I was like, I'm probably not going to go to any races next year. You know, Dustin was like, oh, so we do in Montreal again next year. I was like, probably not. I'm going to put all my eggs in one basket for Japan 2026.
01:07:06
Speaker
Just as you know, just the way I celebrate my 30th. Which would probably be all my friends 30th too, because we're all pretty much the same age. Your 30th will literally be that month. Damn.
01:07:22
Speaker
Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, that's that's my goal. But that's why, you know, if I'm going to see Braun, it's going to be next year because twenty twenty six is too much. I mean, literally, I would probably punt on going to I always I was joking. I was like, Oh, I have to go to one World Cup game, at least one. But like end of the day, if like the Japan trip takes all of my money.
01:07:50
Speaker
I'm going to Japan. There's going to be another one. Yeah, like there'll be another come around. Yeah, the like even next year, I think the Club World Cup is in America like Madrid, Man City, like all these top teams are coming. I'll probably just go to that. But yeah, Japan 2026, man. I've been telling everybody speaking into existence has happened.
01:08:16
Speaker
Speaking of. Oh yeah. Yeah. God I want to experience high speed rail. I want to go to the. I just want to go to all the spots that like you know I see an anime. But no obviously like Japan is a really cool spot and I'm a weeb so.
01:08:42
Speaker
You know, Japan's going to be fucked up. Yeah, I got to get six. I got a I got to get more ripped by then. So when we go to the onsen, I'm looking real cut. Oh, you know what that is, right? Not at all. It's it's the it's the naked spa. Oh, yeah, we everyone has to get naked at the spa. Oh, you and the boys. Oh, it's going to be ladies.
01:09:08
Speaker
Oh, they have their own separate spot. We can't be with them now. Hi. It's only dude. All right. You want to do this? I mean, you know, bucket list type moment. Yeah, you know, no, you could cover up obviously. OK, but like, but we know. OK, but I'd like do want to see what like the odds and experiences like get it.
01:09:32
Speaker
ass balls everywhere. You know, you could get that at your local LA fitness. Yeah, but that's not the same, man. It's not the same. Yeah, it's not in Japan. It's not in Japan. I get it. See at your local LA fitness, you're supposed you're I mean,
01:09:53
Speaker
you're not supposed to be doing that at your local elephant they don't care though it's the old people they don't care but you are supposed to be doing that at the onsen so it's like accepted okay different vibe different vibe more widely accepted i want to do a i want to take a nap in one of the pot like the pods you've seen those like
01:10:13
Speaker
their little capsule. Did you ever watch the I think I know that you're talking about, but let me make the reference. Did you ever see that? I forgot what the fuck it was called, but it was like it was that Google movie that own Wilson and Vince Vaughn in it. No, I didn't know. OK, well, they had like these. They were like working at Google and had these like these sleep pods, I guess. Yeah, it's probably the same thing. Yeah, it's literally just like a little a little box that you get to sleep in. Yeah.
Japan Aspirations and Anecdotes
01:10:35
Speaker
But I want to try that. I think I already said high speed rail, but I'm just really trying to see the high speed rail.
01:10:44
Speaker
But yeah, there's a lot of stuff in Japan I want to do. Just to, you know, just to go. Just to do it. Yeah. So 26. Yeah. You know, it's crazy. I think this might be the meanest thing I've ever said to somebody. Oh, God. One of there's there's definitely been worse, but this dude I used to work with, he he went to Japan and he came back with a bunch of different kick hats and was handing them out or whatever.
01:11:13
Speaker
And I was just like, I was so enthused about the trip because I was like, damn, what did you do? Like, blah, blah, blah. Like, I want to know like what he did, like how much, you know, because he loved it. And I was like trying to go to me. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, man, like, you know, I just hope I get out there soon. You know, I don't want to be like 30 years old when I'm out there, you know, whatever. And I thought I was talking to someone my age. No, he was 30.
01:11:38
Speaker
I was like, yeah, I just I don't want to be out there as a single guy at 30. You know, like I'm hoping to have like a family by then. And not 30 and single in Japan. As you said, that's what I said to him. I mean, I almost feel like it's not me because that's just what I'm going to be. You know what I mean? I spoke, I spoke that into existence. You still got two years. I still got two years, but I kind of spoke that into existence for myself.
01:12:06
Speaker
I mean, this dude was also like really ripped, too. So like, you know, but yeah, to be ripped, not single, I guess you go there, maybe single. Boom. Final little Japanese girl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Move your whole life out there.
01:12:22
Speaker
Yeah, just I stay there. I don't come back. We have a spot to go visit and go to Japan. Exactly. It's going to be hard to see you, which kind of sucks. Yeah. But, you know, laundry in the basement from from from Tokyo house in Tokyo. Yeah, probably. Yeah, probably not. Let's be realistic. Penthouse in the Manila Philippines, though, that's possible with how affordable stuff is over there.
01:12:50
Speaker
But yeah, man, it's that that haunts me that that thing that I said to that guy, but it is like ironic that that's probably what's happening to me. So a lot of time.
Closing Remarks and Podcast Growth
01:13:01
Speaker
A lot of time. Not that much. But we're not there yet. Hey, listen, we tend to we think. Yeah, we'll get there, I guess. But yeah, with that.
01:13:15
Speaker
I guess we close out the show. As usual, I don't have a song to play. That it's queued up, but you know what? I think I was telling you, we got copyright wrote, copyright struck. Yeah, copyright struck. No, you didn't tell me this. Yeah, for we played two. We played two and a half minutes of a dual leap a song at the end of one episode, just because I forgot to shut the board off.
01:13:44
Speaker
And they're like, hey, we're going to take this episode down. They never did. By the way, the episode's still up, I think. But but yeah, it was like one of those things where it's like, hey, you like they're claiming copyright on this. Was this the episode that you guys were referencing that when the album came out in Atticus? Yeah, it's only two or three songs. Yeah, we played we played it right after that. And yeah, I just.
01:14:08
Speaker
I don't know. Ironically enough, we were just talking before that we started airing. We're looking at SEO stuff based off Google. Guys, go run up to stuff for laundry in the basement. So we pop up more and every time you type in laundry in the basement on Google, you don't get us. You have to add podcasts to it. This is here again. You can only see this if you're watching, but we have picture in picture. This will be used a little bit more than the next couple of episodes.
01:14:37
Speaker
You know, play around with it, figure out some things. Yeah, we have we have some stuff in the in the works. But my thing I was going to get to is I don't think this podcast is popping. Dua Lipa was about to take their episode down. That's right. She knew she knows about us. Dua Lipa knows who we are. Y'all should, too. That's right. So on that note, see you guys next week. Peace deuces.