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Self Care and Sleeper Hits

S1 E6 · Late Stage Evolution
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Brian and Dave speak about the pain of the Detroit Lions loss and the general pain of being a fan of a sports team. 

Next, speak about the movie "Stranger than Fiction" and their reactions to the movie and how their tastes in media will translate to the next generation in their family. Brian goes into detail on his son's development issues and how he and his wife have been navigating his learning. 

Dave then speaks about going to his public library for the first time since being a kid and touches on how many resources they have available.

Finally, updates on the goals they have set and Sleeper Media Piece of the Week. 


Transcript

The Lions' Loss and Fan Struggles

00:00:01
David Isaacs
Hello, everybody. Welcome. It is January 19th, officially known as the most depressing day in Detroit history as the Detroit Lions lost last night in their divisional matchup against the Washington commanders. Brian, how are you doing?
00:00:21
Brian Leithead
That could be better. I've been in bad most of today. I've just been very sad but I was gonna say, you know woke up this morning It is what it is and we move on this we can't wait This is where we talk about it on the podcast where we can't afford therapy So we give you suggestions to make you think less and I make you feel better.
00:00:27
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.
00:00:46
Brian Leithead
So but David Uh, I don't know if you want to talk too much about it. We've talked enough and I've talked to enough people, but, uh, you know, it's, uh, part of the theme of the episode, self care. So let's, uh, let's, let's talk about lines game of it and how it made you feel and, you know, how long have you been a fan?
00:01:07
David Isaacs
Yeah, I mean, i I actually became a fan and I think it was the 2008 season where they went 0 and 16 and that was my first time kind of following a team or.
00:01:17
Brian Leithead
Born, born in the darkness, huh?
00:01:20
David Isaacs
Yeah, molded by it. I did not see the light until I was 28 years old and the Lions had finally won a playoff game. But I've had the argument. So like I don't want to talk too much about the Lions in general just because it's probably not the target audience of people that are listening. But I think from a high level perspective,
00:01:44
David Isaacs
We kind of sports and being a fan of sports and being passionate about a specific team or sport in general, it, you have a lot of ups and downs and it's kind of tough being a fan earlier on that they were so bad. You had no expectations and you know, they get into the playoffs and it's depressing. They're getting blown out by the saints or that call against Dallas. And it, I don't know. It's hard for me because I feel not.
00:02:55
David Isaacs
like what being a fan is like now tickets are more expensive. It's harder to go to a game. You have all these expectations and when they fall short and even this year with all the injuries that they're having and you just thought they would always be able to overcome.
00:03:12
David Isaacs
what was ahead of them and the people that they had would be able to, you know, duct tape and zip tie the defense together enough to be able to go and win the super bowl. But unfortunately that didn't happen, and obviously.
00:03:29
Brian Leithead
Yeah, uh, I've been a fan since, you know, as long as I can remember some 36 and they've been bad as overalls a bit, you know, bad as a franchise since I was born. I mean, you know, I grew up with Barry Sanders, Scott Mitchell, uh, Eric Kramer before him Herman Moore, Robert Porsche. Uh, Billy Sims was a little bit before my time. Trying to think of what else, um, Corey Schlesinger. Anyway, you know, so I grew up with what would probably be considered.
00:03:59
Brian Leithead
the, you know, maybe the comparison now the second best, but at the time it was like the best chances we had to make the Super Bowl were with Barry and back in the nineties. And, you know, it was like one season we'd be playing in the NFC championship game. And then, you know, next week, next year we're six and 10 and didn't even make the playoffs. So I'm used to it. So, you know, and then we had a lot of hope here, 15 and two best tied for the best record in football and.
00:04:27
Brian Leithead
I bought in, I was, you know, the optimistic fan defending my team online. He wants friends, even when they had like stupid mistakes that they had to clean up or, you know, like I just kept, just kept that positivity throughout. And I was like, man, I'm so glad we won. You know, we've been so injured all season. That first round by is going to help us out so much. And it turns out it was like.
00:04:52
Brian Leithead
way worse ah ah for us than I think if we would have got the fifth seed and had to go on

Sports Cultures: U.S. vs. Europe

00:04:56
Brian Leithead
the road. I don't know if we just put too much emphasis on the rest and recover and didn't take everything as seriously as we should have. Again, these are things that I can't really control. It's an organizational thing, but I still like to play quarterback commissioner. But yeah, it's sad. I had so much hope and then You know, I would be less upset if we came in fully prepared and they just, you know, outmuscled us and beat us, but we beat it it ourselves. that's so what's the most frustrating part about the whole thing is like teams had to like, you know, literally rip our kneecaps off to beat us in the regular season. And none of that was evident in this game. And that was the most important game of the season. And we choked. So it's just.
00:05:45
Brian Leithead
You know, going back to disappointment, mantra of, oh, there's next year, maybe next year, but we said that last year and the same thing happened almost again. So this one feels a little bit harder than last year. Well, if I'm being honest, so I don't know. I spent all day talking about him kind of over it, but I just wanted to get a few words out once we start the show.
00:06:08
David Isaacs
Yeah, it's tough, right? And for a lot of teams, regardless of what sport it is, the window to be able to win championships is so slim. Losing players, losing coaches, people are out to try to get some of the success, pull those people away so they can make their teams better.
00:06:34
David Isaacs
I don't know, as a fan like the NFL and just American sports in general, I know in Europe for soccer, I don't know how good of a British accent that was, but They have the relegation system, basically means that if you're bottom three in the league, so say I think there's like eight tiers of English football or soccer, and each tier has a certain amount of teams, and I think the top three or the top four tiers have a relegation and promotion system.
00:07:12
David Isaacs
If you finish in the bottom three in the Premier League, which is considered top tier in English football, you're relegated to the league underneath, which is called the championship for whatever fucking reason why they named it that.
00:07:28
David Isaacs
So I I can imagine it's harder and you've seen and hear heard about like, you know cities depressed for weeks because their team had been relegated or the joy and the cheer that comes with your team getting promoted to the Premier League and just organizational stuff and you kind of i know people that are fans of teams that they not around the area but even even they live here however i i wanted to be a fan of a team that was close enough in the area so i can go and see games but now

Self-care and Avoiding Negativity

00:08:07
David Isaacs
it's gotten so expensive and i was even talking to a guy in the sauna yesterday and we're talking about how expensive tickets were
00:08:17
David Isaacs
And I was thinking to myself, like, what if you pay all that money to go and they lose? And not only did they lose, they lost in a manner that was just so uncharacteristic of the team that we had seen throughout the entire year. They were unprepared. People were missing assignments, making stupid mistakes, Jared Goff throwing terrible footballs, making terrible decisions. Didn't look like anything. What he's shown in the regular season where he was setting career highs and passing yards, touchdowns.
00:08:47
David Isaacs
completion percentage, like breaking all of his own previous records, the Lions breaking all the records that they have held since the franchise has been around since the mid to early 1900s. So yeah, being a fan of sports stuff, I, but yeah, the existential crisis of I'm depressed about this, but I'm also depressed about how much I care about something I have no real control over.
00:09:15
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I, uh, I was thinking about this this morning because I was like scrolling through YouTube. I was like, I'm not going to sit here and doom scroll, you know, through posts saying how much the lion suck, how much, you know, other like organizational fans are telling us how we should act. You know, we're getting, we don't have, we're acting like the Patriots went on. They had to win all those championships and the lions don't have that. you know, I wasn't going to go down that path and I was like,
00:09:44
Brian Leithead
You know, I'm sad that the Lions lost, but I also don't want to, you know, I also know that this one sport doesn't define like my whole life. Like it's not like I dedicate my every day to football or football. but my, my social media imprint right now would suggest otherwise. i opened up YouTube cause I was going to watch maybe like a coding tutorial, you know, do some career advancement, uh,
00:10:10
Brian Leithead
our career development stuff this weekend. Uh, and then all I saw was pitiful Jared Goff and blah, blah. So I immediately had to close YouTube. So I think I'm just gonna stay off social media, like across the board and you're not LinkedIn. Cause that's literally just about your career. and just, just avoid it for a few days, just to like, let my brain reset. Cause if I go on there and scroll, I'm just gonna,
00:10:36
Brian Leithead
get more and more depressed, so it's part of my self-care that I'm gonna kinda do this week to to move on. Also, I've been watching a ton of movies, and I did end up actually completing my homework assignment that you gave me. Do you wanna tell other people what that was?
00:10:55
David Isaacs
How was it? It was it to watch stranger than fiction with Will Ferrell.
00:11:01
Brian Leithead
Yep, and I did. I watched it a couple of nights ago.
00:11:04
David Isaacs
Nice.
00:11:05
Brian Leithead
Yeah, it's been a while since I've seen it, I think, because the movie came out in 2006 and I was like 17 at the time. I ended up watching, I think I rented it from my family video and that franchise was still open. But no, it was a good movie. like was very wholesome, it had funny parts at times. It was kind of a little bit more on the serious side that I remember at certain parts.
00:11:32
Brian Leithead
Obviously, It was kind of meant to be like a dramatic comedy or a dramedy or however you, you know, paraphrase that. So, but I liked it. I thought it was very wholesome movie.
00:11:44
David Isaacs
Yeah, well, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, I think the to agree with you, the vibe, you like the movies that have like

Film Discussions and Life Lessons

00:11:51
David Isaacs
a specific vibe and dramaties can be kind of a touchy. It's hard to do one that people are going to enjoy if it's too serious or too funny, not serious enough. Like you really walk this line. And I think they they had done it so well that It is serious in certain times, but it's almost like a comfort type movie, like feel good about, about, um you know, a guy just living his life and is presented with this problem that having to overcome that and kind of enlisting other people to help him figure out something that is just so off, like what a normal struggle that he or anyone would have
00:12:38
David Isaacs
So I think it is kind of very poetic, the the willingness to ask for help, staying the course in dealing with these things, still living out your life and working towards solving a problem. So I think it comes down to, it's a good lesson on Be willing to ask for help even when things seem very weird or if it's something that you're not familiar with, you don't know how to ask or how to explain exactly what's happening. But just kind of have the willingness to explain that to people because it could be something that you deal with
00:13:18
David Isaacs
currently dealing with in your daily life that it's hard to explain to people or kind of like how you feel about certain things that are happening or whatnot. But yeah, I know we're kind of putting the the lion stuff to bed, but I was thinking like, it seems so similar. Like I hate reality television. And people are like, oh, the bad like, why would you give him that?
00:13:44
David Isaacs
Or why would you give her a rose? Like, why is she still around? What are you doing? And then me and my couch, why

Parenting and Media Influence

00:13:49
David Isaacs
are you throwing that ball? You fucking idiot. Like, it's it's just so similar.
00:13:56
David Isaacs
And I was just thinking about it now. But Yeah, unfortunately I hadn't watched that Jim Jormusch movie yet. I'll probably get to that tomorrow.
00:14:06
David Isaacs
I was, I was actually showing my nephew spirited away today, but then he, uh, yeah, he, but he's, he just turned two.
00:14:11
Brian Leithead
Ooh, that's a good one.
00:14:17
David Isaacs
So he, he's kind of at that point where he just, he knows characters and he likes Mickey Mouse.
00:14:18
Brian Leithead
No.
00:14:25
David Isaacs
So if. He's not really, he can't really get too interested in a movie. He really doesn't have the, his brain hasn't developed to the point of like knowing how good the movie is, I guess.
00:14:38
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I mean that's the innocence of being a kid, right? You don't really You might not really know or learn know how to appreciate something like that until you're older and you know Your uncle David showed you something that he thought was really cool and was very well done movie and then just to him it's a cartoon movie that he's probably gonna be entertained by him in a different way than you are but I
00:15:01
David Isaacs
Well, that's the, uh, that's the thing too. Cause I was thinking and I went over and watched some of the Kansas city Texans game yesterday, uh, friend's house and one of my friends, Rachel had her kids over. And I was like thinking about with my nephews and that like growing up, I really didn't have too much of an influence over, you know, what good music is, what good movies are, how to, or really exposed to like a lot of different media outside of.
00:15:32
David Isaacs
having to watch whatever the fuck my stepdad was bringing home from family video or blockbuster and it was mostly like blue collie blue collar comedy tour shit like Larry the cable guy movies or there's a movie called bulletproof with Adam Sandler and I believe Marlon Wayans and like just I and even with you know trying to influence and like growing up like with video games or what in school like staying in school or in sports or what have you. So I kind of want to just make sure that not only be the the fun uncle that spoils him and doesn't like my sister complaining to me because you know I let him do this or oh you let him drink pop or not. But also kind of being a ah ah good
00:16:24
David Isaacs
role model or somebody that can introduce them to what a good video game is or what to look for in movies or TV shows or music and kind of expand your horizons and find things that you really enjoy. Because growing up, you know, I didn't really have that. I was taught the value of hard work and not being lazy and showing up and doing your schoolwork and that. But all the rest of the time, like with video games and that I was kind of out of my own growing up. You know, when you're younger, when you get older, it's just playing Xbox 360 and you're playing whatever your other friends are playing. And it's kind of like that now with my computer games and stuff. But yeah, I think it's so I don't know. You ever think about that? Like with your son, too, I guess he's getting older, like how to
00:17:23
David Isaacs
introduce them to stuff or things that you enjoy.
00:17:28
Brian Leithead
Yeah. my, my son is obsessed with, uh, uh, YouTube. I don't know what you call it personality. Uh, Ms.
00:17:37
Brian Leithead
Um, she's, yeah, she's been on what?
00:17:39
David Isaacs
Oh, yeah.
00:17:42
Brian Leithead
The Drew Barrymore show. She's been on good morning America. She's been alsos also, or it's also, you know, morning talk shows. and she is a former music teacher.
00:17:52
Brian Leithead
And her husband was music director of Aladdin on Broadway for a Um, if my boss is listening.
00:18:00
David Isaacs
Oh, really?
00:18:01
Brian Leithead
Yeah. I don't know if it's Broadway or I think it's called the state theaters, like the second biggest one. I'm probably wrong on that one, but, but yeah, he was music director for, you know, a large Broadway musical for ah ah a couple of years at least.
00:18:16
Brian Leithead
you know, and then. They had a son who had learning disabilities or gross motor delays. And they found that in their research that kids learn better with sign language and singing specifically for their speech and kind of just like their brain development. they started a show on YouTube or this channel on YouTube called Songs for Littles. And then she was like the main character, not main character, but she's like the host and teacher.
00:18:45
Brian Leithead
um um and but my son was obsessed with that so even getting him to watch like things like cars like even though i was i think well into high school and that movie came out and like finding emo it was in middle school and that one came out but even getting him to watch those like he's interested in them uh... but his like main thing that he watches is rachel like all the time he'll watch him for you know like an hour or two days we're allowing for tv right now but that's what He watches and it's like his favorite thing like we got him books like She there's like a whole almost like episode just in in book form that we had for him and Then there's like learn how to go to potty with mr. Rachel like it was like no she's like starting to come like that that big where she has like her own like toy line and book line and all this stuff so But that's what he was obsessed with so currently it's a little hard to kind of get him into that but
00:19:45
Brian Leithead
Also see myself as a three-year-old and him he's about to turn four on Saturday actually but I see a lot of like me and him and that like I Won't watch what I want to watch. I don't care about what my parents watch and then you know, it wasn't until I think maybe when I was five or six that I was really started getting interested in what my parents were watching like the Disney movies that they like when they are growing up and Etc. tre Etc. So yeah, I definitely see him in that and you know we're trying to get him you know he's got his nursery rhymes all his numbers up to 25 he's got all that going for him he's way ahead of me on as you know as far as I can remember so yeah it's it's fun to experience that as a parent seeing your through like life through your kids eyes and I think that's something like it's you know lost upon people being able to be
00:20:45
Brian Leithead
have that childlike innocence and maybe, Empathies that kids have, Of not judging you based on anything other than just what you bring, what you give to them or what you bring to them. So, but, you know, growing up, I, I, I would always listen to what they refer to as butt rock now, uh, on The what the kids are calling it like, you know disturbed god smack Corn yeah, who was stank who was stinky Yeah the stink yeah it was all breaking benjamin.
00:21:15
David Isaacs
Who was stank? Breaking Benjamin. Who was stank?
00:21:26
Brian Leithead
Yeah, all those bands that came around in the 2000s like unapologetically like would always compare them to like the beatos i'm like nope butt rock butt rock all the way And obviously I just wasn't as cultured as I am now, but you know, it's kind of a part of the funny thing about life is really until you learn, you know, yourself and all that, and actually like experience things, you're not going to have a ah different perspective of different way of looking at things. So, kind of just me rambling here, but, yeah, I i get what you're saying.
00:22:04
David Isaacs
Yeah, it's hard to yeah, I'm familiar with Miss Rachel and yeah, I didn't know that they had a child with disabilities and that her husband was or she use former music like I really had no idea about the whole backstory behind it. But yeah, like the they make it a good point, too, with like the child, like in a sense of just exploration and discovery about finding out things that they like or will watch something that you're watching without like too much judgment. And I don't know if the I don't want to feel like or like sound like my parents with, you know, back in my day,
00:22:47
David Isaacs
You know, music was on a record. We didn't have none of them newfangled iPads watching people play roadblocks or playing roadblocks. I was like, I was, you know, I was a kid, playing Nintendo 64 Sega Genesis for a certain amount of time. And I had, Oh man, it was so cool. I had like this tiny, this tiny box TV that had a VCR attached with it. Like you, you remember those?
00:23:15
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I had several of those.
00:23:18
David Isaacs
yeah, so I would sit there and I'd sit there and watch space jam. It was like 24 seven or Barney or, actually at Kiki's delivery service growing up and studio Ghibli put all their stuff on HBO max. And I like, that is such a good comfort movie for me, like.
00:23:39
David Isaacs
I love it. But the the change now of like, is it is it really different than, you know, what we were doing as kids? Because I would sit there and I'd have my Saturday morning cartoons or be watching, you know, space jam on loop. You know, is that any different than some kid playing Roblox or watching someone play Roblox? But I guess it kind of comes down to like how much time they're allowed to have with it. But, you know, there's lazy parents out there that just will have their kids sit on an iPad so they don't have to engage with them or you know I know the parents are busy obviously but I definitely feel like there's a specific demographic that will just allow their kids free reign to just sit on their iPads all day and not really engage with the rest of the world instead of like
00:24:30
David Isaacs
Oh, let's go outside or let's go to the park or hey, let's watch this movie or something like that. Or, you know, like, Hey, let's, if you're maybe like cleaning up the house and listening to music.
00:24:43
Brian Leithead
Yeah. um um And with like my son's generation, kind of like that, like little part of it. So we had to put him because my son does have some like gross motor relays, like he still kind of struggles with his speech, even though he's almost, you know, almost four years old. yeah had to put him in this program called early on. I'm sure it's different in other states or maybe other countries, but He gets, you know, he was getting weekly speech therapy, um, OT, which is occupational therapy and physical therapy. So they would give him like different exercises. Cause my son didn't crawl. when he was learning to walk, he would like butt scoot almost. Um, Um, and what they kind of have theorized when you miss out on crawling is you kind of like,
00:25:36
Brian Leithead
don't necessarily get that like locomotion in your brain that you would have with like a baby who did.
00:25:43
David Isaacs
Right.
00:25:43
Brian Leithead
Um, so he's, he'll still struggle. So I think that's why I was so drawn to, to miss Rachel, but, my son's generation, like, or a little part of that generation, uh, went through COVID.
00:25:56
Brian Leithead
So there was actually more cases, at least locally here, you know, I can't really speak to numbers nationally or anything like that where, kids just didn't get a chance to socialize because in that certain kind of maybe one to two year or three year age range where it's so important. So a lot of them are struggling just with those areas. And so at least in my local community, it was the largest number of kids that they had in that group range going into early on. So she,
00:26:30
Brian Leithead
his group specifically just didn't get that kind of chance to socialize. now he's in almost in preschool. He's been in school for well over a year now and you know, he's tolerant and some of the other kids, they're kind of learning to grow and kind of speech cue or social cues and all that stuff now. but yeah, it was buffer like, you know, other generations and like the lazy parents of just,
00:26:58
Brian Leithead
not interacting with their kids or making them do other things other than just being on an iPad or a video game.
00:27:08
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I can't really speak to those, but you know, I get it from that if you they just weren't able to, like they just didn't have the ability, like, you know, maybe live in a country, countryside where there's not a lot of people, small community, that type of thing. if it's, you know, just,
00:27:25
Brian Leithead
like laziness from parents, that's a completely different thing.
00:27:33
David Isaacs
Yeah, I know it's hard to criticize, especially like being judgmental with people, because you never really know what the, what they have going on, or how difficult they have it, or, you know, if they're having to, you know, single parents or whatnot. But yeah, even like, Cause Lawson, my nephew's two years old and he had just turned two, but he's all around like, he wants to play with stuff. He wants to walk around the house and fool around and what have you. And I come home today, even in my mom was babysitting him and she like passes him off to me.
00:28:15
David Isaacs
I'm like, what are you, what are you doing? You want, you wanted grandkids. like He's too much work. So I just remember, I remember growing up and my grandma watching me and me, like.
00:28:20
Brian Leithead
Wow.
00:28:26
David Isaacs
Duct taping stuff together. I had like, I took a string and like tied the front and back door together. I was like trying to set up like booby traps. And I remember like, there was a can of paint that got knocked over and spilt everywhere.
00:28:40
David Isaacs
I cut my sister's hair after getting my first haircut. Like my mom freaked out and they talk about that all the time. But yeah, I mean, kids are just so explorative and parents of, I think certain parents are nor home bodies or, you know, not to like, I sit on my phone a lot. And I know there's probably other parents that like sit on their phone a lot and stuff too. And.
00:29:09
David Isaacs
will give their kids like some sort of stimulation for a certain amount of

Rediscovering Libraries and Books

00:29:13
David Isaacs
time. But being a stay at home parent, like they you play with them and they just not going to run out of energy is as quick as you would like to. So, yeah, it's hard because they're always wanting to have something going. like always something going on or to play with this toy and um play with that toy and make a mess that you have to clean up or now you know, they're hungry, cooking food and everything. But yeah, it's, it's a lot of work. So don't mean to like criticize anybody, but I, I imagine there's probably some studies done on limited screen time versus engaging in play with your children.
00:29:59
Brian Leithead
Yeah, yeah, we try to, I don't know. I don't know if there is this study. It's just like, I i i just don't want my son, you know, and this isn't to sound like I'm some great parent or to criticize others. It's just, I don't want my son to be like, kind of like how I was and just ah sit in front of a TV and play video games, not want to socialize. Like growing up, it was just for me, it was like being like, I had a few friends and never, you know,
00:30:27
Brian Leithead
when i was younger i was maybe a little bit more social as soon as i got into like middle school it's just like all i wanted to do was play sports come home play video games go and you know do homework you know i didn't really want to do that part but then go to bed like that that was it that's how i kind of just turned into a homebody so i don't want that for my son i want him to be more active you know still have his like electronic or or know tv show obsession that he you know is very much into but i just don't want him that to be a kind of become his life ah like it became for me i just i used to be really athletic as a kid and even into high school but the older i got the less serious i took it just because i didn't i was never really any good to like go to like pro or anything like that so i just kind of like over time naturally lost interest in like playing sports so
00:31:25
David Isaacs
we've talked about the transition and like sports and it's like once you don't have that team anymore and you can sign up or get some people to like we were talking about playing indoor soccer and then we started to realize our joints don't work very well anymore and it took a lot of time to recover just because of all that dynamic movement so yeah I'd like to
00:31:27
Brian Leithead
Yeah.
00:31:43
Brian Leithead
Yeah.
00:31:49
David Isaacs
I don't know, maybe if I get rich one day and set up some sort of program for people that are adjusting from working out or being in a team and using that to get exercise growing up and transition it into exercise that you could get still. I know with colleges, they have intramural sports that people will go out for, but Yeah, kind of like that team perspective, it really gets lost on you, especially like going to college because you're, you get group work, but you're never going to really like the people that all the people that you're doing the group work with, or somebody's not participating as much as they should be. And.
00:32:34
David Isaacs
Then you get into the workplace and it's kind of the same deal. You're never going to really like everybody Some people aren't committing to or doing as good of a work as they're capable of or should be doing. But growing up and playing sports, it's like if you don't practice, if you don't show up, if you don't give good effort, then you're just not going to play.
00:32:55
David Isaacs
whereas now it's like in school and in life and work and whatnot. There's a ton of people that just kind of get away with not contributing as much as they should. But yeah, I think I might transition a little bit.
00:33:14
David Isaacs
kind of made it a goal of mine to go to the library finally and sign up for a library card because I looked at Libby and there's a few other apps that do it too but it's like digitally checking out books that I wanted to do a while ago and never got around to it and I finally went yesterday and man I hadn't been to a library since I was a kid. and I think we went on a school field trip or maybe my mom took me, but the library is like so many cars in the parking lot. You go in and they've got, they're doing a donation thing for Humane Society. They've got video games you can check out, anime DVDs, regular DVDs for movies, the books obviously.
00:33:58
David Isaacs
they have a library of things like people can check out tools or board games like stuff for people's hobbies so it was really cool so i'll probably go back in there again you know like people there to use the computer print off pages just there to read i've seen a couple guys playing chests like they've got the children's section in there too. So I like when my nephew gets a little bit older, I might bring him in there like once he starts wanting people to read to him.
00:34:36
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I haven't been, we got my son a library card like a year ago, because just in between with summer, you know, it was, and him being in school, we kind of want to at least have him go kind of be with other kids. We couldn't really afford like summer camp or anything like that, but we wanted him to be around some kids, know, at least in that break. So we got him a library card and There's different like reading activity groups that we can take them to, or just where they have story, or they'll have like a special guest, quote unquote, like a Miss Rachel, or whatever popular character is at the time to come read to kids. But before that, ah so this was last summer, 2024. So I hadn't been since like high school. So yeah, it's been about two decades since I've been in the library prior to that.
00:35:29
Brian Leithead
But yeah, you're right. It was definitely a lot different, you know, from when I was a kid. It's like, cause when I was a kid, it was like, we only had the budget and our room in the art library for like one or two computers. Now it's like, they have like a whole media, like media center where you can go like, it's like a computer lab and you know, all sorts of digital archives and, but all sorts of book sections and different areas where you could,
00:35:59
Brian Leithead
potentially sign up for like a chess club, like he said. No, all very cool. And I'm glad that libraries are still a thing.
00:36:07
David Isaacs
Yeah, that's a lot of great resources for people. So i yeah, I am a huge supporter of taxes going towards libraries and money that I give the city or whatnot. I guess they had just redone it a couple of years ago, but yeah like going in and all the books that they have out on the shelves and I rented fairy tale by Stephen King and somebody had recommended that to me because I had finished a will the will of the many great book like Roman type society with a hierarchy based around
00:36:52
David Isaacs
I don't know exactly what it's based around but basically there's a hierarchy and they have the people underneath like have to give some of their will or like life energy to the people higher up and people higher up have the ability to do like magical things or the will is used to power like railroads and trains and Like all this other stuff. So it was a really good book and it's kind of like dark fantasy somewhat and somebody recommended me to read fairy tale by Stephen King if I like dark fantasy, so I'll probably dig into that a little bit tonight. And yeah, we can talk about that. Or I'll talk about it a little bit more, but yeah, just kind of check in goals and whatnot.
00:37:44
David Isaacs
Kind of been cheating on mine a little bit, but definitely noticing the less money being spent. I think the biggest thing is like when I run out of groceries and having to go back to the grocery store is being tough. Uh, it's kind of similar to, um, did my laundry, but now I have to fold it. Or I was going to put my dish in the dishwasher, but the dishwasher is clean and I have to unload it. I don't feel like doing that right now. It's kind of similar with.
00:38:12
David Isaacs
that. So just kind of like the breaks in what I'm trying to do. But now when I run out of food and I, the loophole I found the other day was that I had a ah ah free medium pizza from Hungry Howie's in my rewards.
00:38:26
David Isaacs
So that was my way.
00:38:27
Brian Leithead
Ooh.
00:38:28
David Isaacs
That was my way of getting around it. I had set a goal for myself. I had set rules and had found a loophole So the mental gymnastics that I'm doing to get out of something that I had set my mind to and the goal that I had set has been, it's been a struggle. Like I, I, inside of me, there are two wolves and one wants to be fit and not spend as much money. And the other one is just a glutton who is very smart and very conniving and finding ways to work

Movies and Genre Recommendations

00:39:00
David Isaacs
against me.
00:39:03
Brian Leithead
yeah i get that i uh i have two wolves too but they're they both have ADHD so whatever side is gonna just forget what it was doing anyway
00:39:09
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:39:25
David Isaacs
it
00:39:27
Brian Leithead
Yeah, yeah. And then at one point, it's probably just staring, both were staring at the ceiling for no apparent reason other than just to fade out. So yeah, I kind of get that from that standpoint. I was, I kind of fell into ADHD, especially with chores. I was pouring myself ah ah ah some some milk, but then like The milk was empty. I was like, man, this is really and they should just some water in it, rinse it out and go take it out. I'm like, oh. So, you know, I left my cup and then I. So I crushed it and I noticed that the trash can was full, so I might as well take that out, so I don't have to do do it in the morning. So then I did that.
00:40:10
Brian Leithead
And then I took it out, both of them out, threw them in the respective bins. And I was like, Oh yeah, I left, I left my cup in my truck. So then I went out the back door. And then when I came back and I came in through our front door and I looked at the door, I'm like, man, I left the door open. So I closed that. And then I went and scrolled in on my phone on the couch for an hour. I was like, man, I'm really thirsty now.
00:40:38
Brian Leithead
I forgot my cup.
00:40:38
David Isaacs
Hmm.
00:40:40
Brian Leithead
I just, it was fun.
00:40:40
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:40:43
David Isaacs
You know, doorways are associated with memory loss. Like there is a correlation between like going through a door and forgetting something.
00:40:53
David Isaacs
Like there is somewhat of a scientific connection. I'll have to look into it. I imagine it has to do something with like survival instincts to like being in a new space. So like you're trying to make sure that it's safe like visually and then in doing that kind of unconsciously you forget what you were doing.
00:41:14
Brian Leithead
Yeah, okay. Yeah, and I get that kind of on like on a Did I remember to like lock the door thing and then I go down and then it is locked but then I'm like Is it really like this and you unlock and lock it again?
00:41:29
Brian Leithead
You know, it's like the click in the tongs. Yep. They work It's like that nervous almost routine that I have
00:41:33
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:41:38
David Isaacs
Yeah. So yeah, let's touch on. underrated piece of media this week. I'd recommend people to watch it if they are fan of Karl Urban, fan of Alex Garland, or if they like kind of like post futuristic society, societal breakdown, sci fi type stuff, but the movie is dread based on judge dread, which was it a
00:42:11
David Isaacs
I know it was a movie back in the day, on like a comic book or something.
00:42:15
Brian Leithead
Yeah, it was based on a Dark Horse as a publisher, Dark Horse Comic, where it was Judge Dredd. And then they turned it into the 90s movie with Stallone that had the same kind of cookie cutter formula as every other single action movie that he had done up to that point.
00:42:34
David Isaacs
Yeah what, what other characters are like, because you said it was dark horse, like, what else, they have other stuff too right.
00:42:44
Brian Leithead
Yeah, they for up until. Oh, they have like Hellboy. That's like the big one that was really popular in the 80s and 90s, early 2000s, and it kind of became a terrible movie franchise.
00:42:50
David Isaacs
Oh yeah.
00:43:00
Brian Leithead
Dark Horse also had the Star Wars licensing for.
00:43:06
Brian Leithead
I think Marvel had it first up until the 80s and that reverted over to, excuse me, to Dark Horse in like the late 80s, early 90s, and they had it until Marvel, I'm sorry, Disney bought Lucas Filments when it was at 2013, so over 25 years. And they they they did a lot of what you would call extended universe now, but they did like their own kind of original characters. They did, they focused a lot on like Luke Skywalker and that whole band after
00:43:42
Brian Leithead
the Rebels had won and it was like they're using like Disney is using some either characters or stories from that now but yeah they had like then they'd also do like History of the Jedi they do like the High Republic so they made up a lot of their own stories but those are kind of like the major I'd say top titles that people would know about that Dark Horse has they do a lot of video game and TV show comics like I know they did like a Mass Effect comic I think they're doing currently they're also doing they did Dragon Age they've done Halo I think they did a comic for so yeah they do a lot of good licensing
00:44:25
David Isaacs
Not ice.
00:44:29
David Isaacs
Gotcha. Yeah, that's interesting. I'll have to look more into it. So when he had said that, I like remembered and Hellboy was the reason why I i went down a rabbit hole before. Like so before. Like so I knew it was a comic book and I didn't know who had created it because outside of like DC and Marvel, like these comic books, it's hard to really know like what production company or author or whatnot. But Anyways, our ADHD had taken over, so let's get back to tread. It's like it starts out so they have judges, and these judges are basically policemen, but they don't have very many of them to govern over.
00:45:15
David Isaacs
the this city this massive city that has essentially the skyscrapers that become like their own cities and the the judges are basically like very hardened criminals very hard crimes they go and arrest them essentially or kill them or what have you and Carl Urban plays Judge Dredd and has a trainee with him, a young woman who is a telepath. ah ah Would you consider a telepath, Brian?
00:45:56
Brian Leithead
Yeah, yeah, I would say so. I should basically read almost people's emotions, I think. Yeah, that's a good way.
00:46:06
David Isaacs
Okay. So, and then they go, they, whatever, the, not protagonist, what's the other one?
00:46:15
Brian Leithead
Antagonist.
00:46:16
David Isaacs
Yeah, antagonist is Cersei Lannister, as most people would know her, but Lena Headey, who is running some sort of drug ring out of one of these skyscraper cities. And they are tasked with going in and arresting her or killing her. and don't, I can't remember if they actually arrested anyone in the movie or like what the process was with it.
00:47:26
David Isaacs
scenes that are very hyper stylized in them trying to display this slow-mo drug that in mama had been distributing so like showing people that are on it and kind of like how vibrant everything is and how things work in slow motion i know one of the scenes is that they give uh some person that drug and then throw him from the top of the tower. So he feels like it's taking a long time to finally be able to hit the bottom.
00:48:03
Brian Leithead
Yeah. and it is an interesting role, at least for my perspective of, it was an interesting role for Carl Urban because in really in the comics and like anything that wasn't related to the Stallone movie, like Judge Jed's like a kind of,
00:48:25
Brian Leithead
I don't know Boba Fett character at least the Boba Fett from the original trilogy where he's kind of like mysterious and didn't really talk much. They really nailed that part of it in this movie and so did Carl Urban because like I'm used to like over the top Carl Urban like

Behind the Scenes of Movie Productions

00:48:40
Brian Leithead
I remember growing up with him in the 90s when he was like he would do certain guest spots on Xena War Your Princess and then like he did obviously like The Lord of the Rings and while their movie was in He was the one of the assassins and one of the born movies So like I'm kind of own obviously Billy Butcher and the boys It's like, you know, he he obviously he had some lines but it was kind of just like him Making his presence felt with like and especially with like his eyes covered so you couldn't really tell his facial expressions much but he just kind of had like a quiet force and
00:49:03
David Isaacs
Right.
00:49:20
Brian Leithead
behind him as a character and he wasn't even necessarily the main character maybe they kind of i think now looking at it they did that on purpose that the recruit did most of the talking but yeah he i mean he's kind of just this quiet badass you're used to seeing like some of the old samurai movies and but he nailed it you know like and all the movie also had wood harris who is uh julius campbell and remember the titans
00:49:48
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:49:49
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:49:50
Brian Leithead
I don't know. I just like connecting actors from other movies.
00:49:52
David Isaacs
No, I mean, like going down, like there's, there's so much that goes into the movies that get created and
00:49:53
Brian Leithead
It's a fun exercise that I have that really serves no purpose other than entertain me.
00:50:00
David Isaacs
the cast ensemble and directors, writers. And we had talked about before, but the original director of the film, they wouldn't allow him to edit it. And Alex Garland, who had written the film, was in charge of editing it. And Carl Urban at the end said that should be considered like Garland's first, his directorial debut. But yeah, I mean, there's like, you can, you go down the rabbit hole with anything. You know, my mom was watching Steel Magnolia's
00:50:29
David Isaacs
and I don't know if you're familiar with the film. It's like a a earlier Julia Roberts, I think it came out in like 1989 or 1990. Sally Field, Dolly Parton, a few other characters, but you know like looking into it and it was a true story of a woman that had blood sugar issues and could have been like the 70s or something and thinking about like back then they didn't have you know finger pricks to test your blood sugar and they had insulin obviously but being able to manage your blood sugar back then must have been like hell.
00:51:24
Brian Leithead
Yeah, um, Apocalypse Now has a really interesting backstory behind, like, the making of it.
00:51:32
Brian Leithead
I don't know if you want me to go into it or if you know about it.
00:51:35
David Isaacs
I mean, it's kind of up to you as much as you want to, however you want to explain it.
00:51:40
Brian Leithead
Okay, yeah, well, it's uh, I don't know, they kind of made a spoof movie about it with Trappic Thunder, literally everything about that movie was the backstory for apocalypse now so apocalypse now was based on a book called heart of darkness which i'm forgetting all the characters names but uh curts oh yeah he was looking the main character had to go into the the jungle of jungles of africa to find this uh
00:52:11
Brian Leithead
I can't remember if it was for the East India Company or not, but something of that of nature is a trading company and he had to go and find the local rep who is Kurtz. Well, turned it into kind of like a Vietnam esque war movie. where Robert Duvall, I forget his character's name has to go kind of into the heart of Vietnam or I'm sorry, the heart of Cambodia to find a kind of a running aid Colonel.
00:52:38
Brian Leithead
who was played by Marlon Brando. Anyway, they started filming this movie and kind of all hull breaks loose on the side, like there's just a myriad of things that happen. Like they had to film in between storm season and it just so happens that like they were in the middle of it. So they had to shut down production for I think up to like 150 days. five or six months. And then by the time they come back, they're their whole set was destroyed. So they had to like rebuild a set so that the movie went over budget. then Marlon Brando wasn't really fully committed to the role. And then when they had the delays, he had gained, I think like 50 or 60 pounds from the time that he signed on the time that he was supposed to go filming. So.
00:53:32
Brian Leithead
They had to film all of his scenes at night because he was so large and they would only film like chest up on even most things.
00:53:42
Brian Leithead
And then there's a couple other things that happen, but it is, I think it's a a the main subject of a documentary as well as obviously a spoof with a traffic thunder.
00:53:53
Brian Leithead
So, but yeah, one of the biggest production almost failures in movie history.
00:53:56
David Isaacs
Wow.
00:54:02
David Isaacs
Yeah, I was just looking up. Yeah, that's awesome. A similar thing with Waterworld. I forget how we got onto it, but it was considered of the biggest flops.
00:54:14
David Isaacs
in hollywood it's it's kind of hard to like really dig into like what what is the biggest flop because then you added like dvd sales and everything and i think it ended up like making money or breaking even or whatnot but they also had a set that got destroyed and they tried to film on the ocean and figured out it was a lot harder than they thought it was going to be so production you know just ballooned and even with uh so the new season of severance first episodes out i watched that but they're they're another show that has their production budget is pretty expensive just from like set designs and like writer strike covid shut down so there's a lot that goes into you know how much a movie is actually going to cost to i know with
00:55:04
David Isaacs
Pirates of the Caribbean 4 I think was, it might still be, but at one time was the most expensive movie ever made because they were filming everything with like new IMAX cameras or like 3D like cameras or something.
00:55:21
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. That was, uh, was that that World's End, right? And that was the third one.
00:55:30
David Isaacs
Yeah, there's at world's end. And then the fourth one, I think with like Penelope Cruz, if I'm thinking correctly.
00:55:38
Brian Leithead
Yeah. And, uh, what's his name from John Wick? Ian, Ian McShane was Blackbeard.
00:55:45
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:55:45
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Yeah, those were, I mean, I still both enjoyed those movies and apocalypse now, but yeah.
00:55:56
David Isaacs
Tropic Thunder is just timeless.
00:55:58
Brian Leithead
Yeah. People try to get it canceled all the time and maybe rightfully so, but I don't know. I love that movie so much. It's, it's one of those movies that I could watch and laugh every time and laugh at something different every time.
00:56:13
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:56:16
David Isaacs
Yeah, for a lot of reasons, just like the cast and everything is great. And Ben Stiller is the director for Severance. I know, I don't know how much more he might be like director, producer, writer, creator. Like, I don't know all the, all the credit to give him, but yeah, he is involved with that too. And it's been one of the better drama series that I've seen come out. So I don't know if you've ever seen it or.
00:56:51
Brian Leithead
Yeah.
00:56:52
Brian Leithead
Yeah, yeah. I've heard really good things. It's actually funny that after we lost, the Lions lost my friend, he's like, yeah, I'm done with football for now. Have you ever watched this show called Severance?
00:57:05
Brian Leithead
was actually earlier today. So it's the second time that I've heard about that show. So I feel like I should watch it or at least give it a chance.
00:57:13
David Isaacs
Yeah, I think you'd really enjoy it. Um, I think anyone would really enjoy it, but yeah, it's a great show. Adam Scott, John Gittoro, woman actress in there. I always forget her name, but she was also in man seeking woman, Jay Burichel and Eric Andre. If you haven't seen that either, it's pretty good comedy series, but I know we went a little bit over here. Um, so wrap things up. Anything else on, uh, you're in there, Brian.
00:57:43
Brian Leithead
uh no this is fun um i'll have an underrated piece of media for next week that i really want to discuss so but yeah don't have anything else so thanks for listening everybody
00:57:55
David Isaacs
Yeah, I still gotta watch that movie you assigned me to. Sorry, I was never a good student, never turned in homework because I haven't spent time. So I will get to that. And I don't know if you like synth-pop type music or just like alternate pop.
00:58:11
David Isaacs
But Magdalena Pay released an album a few months ago and it's very good. It's not exactly

Personal Updates and Goals

00:58:18
David Isaacs
a homework assignment I guess, but if you like that sort of music and kind of in the same vein of like underrated musical artists, you should definitely check them out.
00:58:28
Brian Leithead
Yeah, i well, I like anything kind of pop. Anything that really, you know, has good rhythm to it, I'll listen to it. So, I'll give them a shot.
00:58:36
David Isaacs
Yeah, the music videos are pretty crazy too. I'll send you a couple of them, but yeah, everyone. Thanks for listening. I hope you enjoyed listening to us ramble on about stuff. Hope you're doing well and working towards getting happier and healthier.
00:58:53
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Oh yeah, I forgot to check in for my updates. I don't really have any updates on my business. Still kind of working on some stuff, wrapping things up that I've already been paid for, but still on track for my sales goals currently.
00:59:09
Brian Leithead
As far as weight loss is concerned, I'm down five pounds since the time I weighed in just by switching up things a little bit.
00:59:15
David Isaacs
Hell yeah.
00:59:22
Brian Leithead
I don't necessarily read those, you know, eat this instead of that book, but that's kind of what I'm doing for now. Baby steps. But yeah, other than that, I don't have any updates. And so thanks for watching, everybody. We'll talk to you next week.
00:59:35
David Isaacs
Yeah. Thank you. Bye-bye.
00:59:38
Brian Leithead
Bye.