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Escpape the Mainstream Matrix
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Brian and David speak on their strategies for finding cheaper alternatives for events that are outside of the what people usually think of.
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Introduction to "Late Stage Evolution"
00:00:01
Speaker
Hello and welcome back to the late stage evolution podcast. This is David. I am here with Brian. Hey everybody. Welcome to the podcast where we can't afford therapy.
Mental Health and Therapy Satire
00:00:12
Speaker
So we will figure it out for you or do what everybody else does and just give you really bad advice, but at least we're giving it to you. Yeah, there was, oh, I forgot there was a segment I wanted to do with just being the degradation of mental health services going on. So maybe like a sketch or like improv about the your therapist is now your friend from childhood.
Conspiracy Theories & Fluoride Debate
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Speaker
So the brother that was a big conspiracy stoner person. And that's who you got now. It's like, oh, yeah, I think I've got seasonal depression. No, dude that's that's that's the 5G signals. You got to be wearing this tinfoil hat. You got you gotta to start smoking weed.
00:00:58
Speaker
Yeah, that's the COVID vaccine in you. That's what that is. Yeah, that's all the the microbots in your and your system causing the depression and they're dumping off a bunch of microplastics in your testicles and killing your fertility fertility rates and and and the fluoride in pineal gland or whatever the fuck it is, which I've, I don't know. I have some thoughts about fluoride, but it doesn't, doesn't seem that great at least not to be ingesting it or whatnot.
Plastiques vs. Syncorators: A Parody War
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Speaker
But I need to I need to look more into it. But there are there there are some people are like, yeah, I mean, it's it's probably better to not have it because we're either dealing with here, they're getting microplastics from bottled water or you're getting fluoride from the sink water or water out of the fridge or whatnot. So as imagine we're going to have a ah civil war in 20 years, the the microplastics first, the Floridians,
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Speaker
It's not Dementous versus Immortan
Escaping Mainstream Media
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Joe. It's going to be the Plastiques versus the Syncorators. Yeah, sink dweller for Floridians, the Floridians. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. I was trying to find one and says like somewhere between like for one sounded like Flo Rida, like Flo Rida fans. And the other one just sounded like people from Florida. So well we'll have to come up with a better name for it. Yeah, for sure. yeah Either way, episode is called Escape the Mainstream Matrix. What do we mean by that, Brian?
00:02:42
Speaker
we you are fake news fake news oh sorry not not mainstream matrix yeah we want we want to kind of chat about uh we're both broke so we're trying to find uh some cheaper venues and cheaper shit to do during during the week so uh we're going to chat a little bit about um just finding all alternate fun getting out of that that matrix we're gonna be like nea busting out of his bubble or something i don't know Yeah, I think it's all encompassing between sporting events, musical artists, I mean, even video games and movies really as well. And I think we all, our generation and generations coming up don't really care about legacy media or mainstream media in terms of news anyways, the infotainment and whatever else.
00:03:37
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There's also kind of spawning people to be more following of certain influencers, albeit like leftist rightist influencers and things like that, or the people that they trust are giving them good information.
Affordable Local Sports Entertainment
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So it's kind of tough, like trying to encompass everything from that. But at least with finding ways to go out and do things without having to spend too much money, I think is a pretty big topic that's not being talked about very much or at least things that people aren't. Maybe they're thinking about it, but I just don't hear a lot of people talk about it.
00:04:19
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for at least in my experience, so sporting events first. I've become a fan of a local soccer team here and they play in the US, USL, I believe is the league it's called, but it's a step below MLS, which is the top tier soccer league here in the United States. Multiple sclerosis too.
00:04:41
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. So they have I keep getting contacted. I've been to a few games the year prior and then this year as well was able to go to a playoff game for twenty five dollars. And they play in a ah stadium. I think it's called the Keyworth Stadium. There's train tracks behind it like trains come through.
00:05:05
Speaker
They have their fan base. I don't know what you would call it, but they're called the Northern Guard who show up to like every game. They found the drums. They got these smoke flares that go off. They've got chants that go on throughout the game. It's a really great atmosphere. Shipping containers use the sweet boxes, which also function as the bar areas, the merge that they have, as well as food trucks, rotating food trucks that come into the stadium. So.
00:05:36
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just between a ticket it to get in, it's like $25 compared to what some people were paying to be able to go watch the Lions versus the Bills this past weekend, which I've heard upwards of $600. I've heard people selling tickets for $1,200 that people have bought. So not only trying to find something that's less expensive, but I just have a better experience going to these games.
00:06:03
Speaker
And even if you're not typically a fan of the sport, I've brought people, especially the playoff game, people that haven't been to an event like that before of either playing soccer or maybe just aren't fans of sporting events in general that agreed. they It was a different experience. and They had more fun with it than they thought they were going to. So I think just being open minded about that and trying to find places that you can go and not have to spend as much money or be able to try maybe a different type of food. I think they've had.
00:06:43
Speaker
Jamaican style food trucks so if anyone hasn't had a plantain i would definitely recommend it or maybe a Jamaican beef patty or something but it is i generally enjoy it i can get season tickets this person keeps emailing me to get season tickets for two to three hundred dollars which i know the lion season tickets are going up again and some of the numbers that i've seen on them or $5,000 to get six, 7,000 or something. So it's been average, I think was about 61% increase from last year, which they increased prices for this season, I think like 25 to 40%. So 100% increase in the last two years.
00:07:34
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ah Yeah, and it's all it's all supply and demand based. And there's a lot of demand. I think the I was seeing a few different numbers, but they were at least 9000 people waiting on the list to try to get season tickets. So when you have that much demand, like it sucks, but they're pricing people out that have had season tickets through the very dark ages, which was Pretty much anywhere from 1957 up until last year for the Lions So it's kind of sucking sucks in that way But you kind of understand the nature of the business and I wish those people were able to keep their tickets But the other side of that too is that
00:08:18
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I had heard somebody that pays $350 a seat per game was able to sell their tickets for $1,200 for the Bills game. So you figure that game plus like Thanksgiving and you've pretty much paid for your season tickets for the year. So I think the You know, they're a lot smarter than I think people realize. And they understand that if you're able to make this much money off selling those tickets on the second mark, secondhand market, then we're going to raise those prices and it's going to be harder for you to try to recoup all that money. And we also have a better team. We've invested
Sports Market Dynamics & Pricing
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a lot of money in time into it. And we have.
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good coaching, good front office people. So, and that's just kind of the nature of the business and they've been behind so long in what other people pay for season tickets that now that they're kind of the upper echelon of the league are trying to make more money when previously they didn't have enough people willing to pay that money for the tickets previously.
00:09:33
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yeah it was it was like the diehards who would just buy tickets every year and regardless if they were good or not and so you'd be able to scoop up you know fifty yard line seats for cheap I mean you know just because there's sixteen or I guess not seventeen but there's sixteen previously there were sixteen games in the NFL season so you'd probably be able to get you know fifty yard line which is pretty much the perfect seat for you know, hundreds of only a couple hundred bucks maybe for the whole year. And now it's, you know, you're probably looking at just $5,000 just for one game. So, um, and yeah, I mean, I have family who family and friends and coworkers who are season ticket holders. And, you know, like before it was, they sell the Thanksgiving ticket and pay for their whole season. Now it's, they do that. And then they would sell it for like,
00:10:29
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For example, an opponent like the Bills or, you know, some big market team. And like now they're just like making actually making money for being a season season ticket holder. So I get that that side of it. Yeah. Oh, go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say, yeah, it's ah it's it's like the whole thing. But um I haven't been to a game and like in person since I went to one this year, but before that I hadn't been in seven years just because you know it's Alliance they haven't been great let's for 60 years let's be real but um you know it's and because if there's only eight home or used to be eight home games it's not like ah going to like a Red Wing or you know hockey or basketball or baseball where they're they play 80 plus games a year and you know those tickets are oh slightly cheaper just because there's
00:11:27
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Um, less of demand and they play games during the week. So, um, yeah, uh, football is, especially the lions is an interesting secondary market. Um, ah so, um, ah we're lucky here in Detroit that we have, you know, four, four sports or four sport town, but then, you know, on top of that, we have like your, your soccer games.
00:11:57
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The other thing that, um just because ah you know I have a wife and son, um we go to this place called um the United united Shore Public or Professional Baseball League. ah They play out of Jimmy John's field. and like it's ah It's kind of like what you were talking about with your the so with the DCFC. It's like ah almost like a minor league kind of league.
00:12:25
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um but teams will from like the major leagues and even AAAA, all those will scout this league and will bring, like they'll scout them and and kind of plug them out of this league. It's only, there's only six teams, but I mean, my wife and son and I can go for, for a picnic um and sit out like on the hill. I mean, we can go for less than $50, not even pay for, not even have to worry about concessions. So like,
00:12:59
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You know, tickets, doing things or like like that, like we'll call them sport alternatives. Um, we have an abundance of that in our area where we're very lucky, but ah from a family perspective, you know, it's like going to like a lions game or like even to the movies is just like, even before inflation is just so expensive, you know, and I, I'd go into the movies.
Affordable Entertainment: Streaming & Comedy
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We took our Senesee Moana to over Thanksgiving and it was,
00:13:28
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almost sixty dollars just for tickets and i mean god bless the families who do this on a weekly basis that was a hard pillow that was a hard pillow swallow and then add on popcorn where just for the three of us it's almost including tickets was almost a hundred dollars and saying that the tickets they were like twenty bucks apiece yeah we got the the three d tickets okay yeah almost $60 just for tickets Tuesday matinee special or it's like five bucks or whatever. This was on a Friday during a holiday weekend, 3d. And I think, I think after like the convenience fee was a little over, it was like 20, 20, 150 cents per ticket. So yeah.
00:14:20
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Yeah, no, I'm my family back in the day and I cannot I can kind of understand it now. But yeah, we were the ones that standard screen maybe a few weeks after it come out to go see a matinee or maybe sometimes on the weekends or whatever sneaking food snacks into the movie theater so but now i mean i understand it because even when i went to see gladiator 2 which you know my opinions about that but going and getting that going and seeing that i think it was 11 or 12 bucks a ticket and then after popcorn and a drink for me and one other person
00:15:06
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You know, that was probably around 50 or $60. And that's the other part of the supply and demand, especially around movie theaters. Now is that they're continuing to charge more money and there have been less people that have shown up to watch some of this stuff. But I think it kind of comes down to.
00:15:24
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what you have that's being released each year. It's kind of like these bigger box office movies. I mean, even Craven the Hunter came out and from reviews I've seen as literal dog shit. Yeah, it did $11 million. dollars It's opening weekend. I think I got a budget of $250 million. So yeah, that doesn't even pay. What's the actor's name? Anthony Taylor Johnson. Yeah. Aaron Taylor Johnson.
00:15:52
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Aaron Taylor Johnson. Yeah, that probably paid for like half of his half of his bill to do this movie. Yeah. Yeah. I saw a, I saw a meme already and was him when he was the, not the flash, um, Quicksilver when he was Quicksilver in Avengers two, he was like running towards the screen and said, uh, it's like craving the hunter running towards streaming and a video on demand. Yeah. I, I don't know.
00:16:20
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But that's the, that's the other part of it too. You know, these big movie studios, Disney included, you know, Moana, they, a lot of people said it wasn't that great, but I think most of the time sequels aren't that great. But I think for that specifically kids movies in general, you know, the parent, they're probably not focused so much on the parents as much as they can market for the kids that are going to want to go and see it.
00:16:51
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So the parents, I guess, didn't enjoy it that much. I haven't seen it yet. I don't know if you have kind of the same opinion about it, but the heard the songs weren't that great. Kind of bland story was kind of bland. Just all seems at least from what I've heard, just not that great. Yeah, I didn't enjoy it as much as the first one. um The songs definitely weren't they were catchy. I mean, you know, I think any Disney movie sung, you know, soundtracks gonna be catchy regardless. But yeah, it it wasn't as good as the first one. I kind of felt more like a, like i a Moana 1.5. It was just like, maybe things that they'd left on concept from the last movie or um didn't have a full developed story. So, I mean, they're gonna, there's gonna be a third one for sure. um And I'll see it. I mean, you know, it's i'm Pacific Islander. I love seeing
00:17:51
Speaker
representation in that way. um But, you know, are kind of getting back to, you know, finding cheaper, ah cheaper alternatives. They're, I mean, yeah still on the movie subject. That's why so many people choose to stay home because, you know, like my family for one night out was over $100. It's, you know, I can only imagine what the price tag is for families who are are larger or parties who are larger um you know and why pay that when you can just pay whatever $60 a month for a couple of different streaming apps and you know that's watch something new that comes out every week or every every month or check out something in the featured section of Netflix so um and that's kind of just how
00:18:47
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it comes down for some people these days. um Yeah, another kind of big alternative, um at least in in my experience, I used to do extended comedy 10 years ago, way different scene now than when I was back then. I mean, it was, you know, you only had a couple places around here where you could really do it, but now there's, I mean,
00:19:11
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six or seven clubs just dedicated really to open mic nights and kind of local local talent growing that um I mean I know stand-up comedy in general is way more popular than it's ever been with you know people doing podcasts and all this um kind of getting their name out there but yeah there's I mean there's probably even more clubs just in maybe 30 square mile radius of here that you can do in do open mic nights or go see you know some local comedian for five or ten dollars per person and then you know you a lot of these clubs will have cheap drink specials and you know they'll have bar food so you know you can go see a relatively entertaining act for 30 bucks per person less than that maybe
00:20:07
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um and makes me want to get back into it if I'm being honest. It seems like there's un unlimited opportunities in it. I'm even thinking about ah going to open, there's an open mic night in this club that's right around the corner from my house just going to see kind of, you know, it's like going to the gym for me. I got to go start slow, you know, kind of get, get my feet back into it. So.
00:20:35
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see what everybody else is and kind of get their brain how their brains are operating when they're telling a joke or just just to go and have fun. I mean, really to watch some amateur comedy. Yeah, I think there I think there's a lot to it.
00:20:49
Speaker
I mean, yeah, we can work on your act here, you know, the older brother conspiracy theorist is now the therapist in 20 years, because that's all you can afford. Right. So we can, we can we can work off that we can put, you know, probably at least five to 10 minutes on that. Exactly. I think the It's cool to get out there and you kind of have to have in this, this openness mindset of, you know, you're going to see a local comedian, you're supporting a local comedian and whether it's your friend or just somebody around in the area. I think it's, it's cool to kind of have that somewhat of a connection, but they're also just, you know, another person that's experimenting, trying to get better at their craft and that, and whether or not they make it big or whatnot, just going out and showing support.
00:21:41
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And maybe they do hit the big time or something. And that's a good conversation to have, you know, ah maybe somebody's like, oh, yeah, I seen Bill Burr and some dive bar in Boston in 1990 or something. Right. Right. Yeah. um I mean, one example for me, um you know, I did a comedy at Mark Ridley's Comedy Castle.
00:22:11
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you know, 10 or 15 years ago. um And I had done some, what they called MC work. you're You're essentially the opening act, and then you bring out like the middle act, and then obviously the headliner, the the closer, or if there's anybody else. and You kind of just like run the show essentially. I did it for um Ian Bragg. He's not local, but he's kind of like a middle act. um I did hit a couple oh openers for him and then Joe Dombrowski, who is from Michigan. He's on the West Coast now, but he's got a huge TikTok and an Instagram following and he sells out, you know, 3000 seat arenas, not arenas, excuse me, theaters, um pretty much all over the country. You know, former kindergarten teacher yu ah uses that in his act and um always has, he's embraced that and he he blew up. I mean, he was
00:23:12
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We, we grew up around each other as far as comedy wise, but watching him grow. And now he's this, you know, kind of almost huge star. So good for him, number one, but, um, you know, that doesn't happen without people going to those out into the clubs. I mean, you know, as goofy as Joe Rogan as says, but he's, he's is 100% correct. When he says, um, you have to support the local.
00:23:41
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clubs because that's where all these comedians come from it's not and you have to give them that platform to hone in and grow in their craft comedy is not just like you're the funny person in the office now like you can just go from making people laugh at the water cooler to selling out you know 40,000 seed arenas like doesn't happen overnight so on these comedians don't get big for five to ten years plus Um, even longer. So, but yeah, I mean, you can go and laugh at people who are just naturally funny. You can see people who are kind of just weird and creepy, but still making it, trying to make it work. I mean, it brings, it draws a whole different crowd and, you know, everyone in the audience is just connected through laughter. Um, and I think that's something special. So, and again, it's a great,
00:24:38
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cost alternative to like going to like a Alliance Gamer to the Red Wings or, you know, Taylor Swift.
Live Music and Nostalgia
00:24:45
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So, yeah, get out there, support the community and support the local artists. I mean, you know, there's always local venues and concerts. And I know, dude, you're a pretty big local, you know, local connoisseur of music. Yeah.
00:25:02
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ah So for the yeah the comedy stuff, just to touch on that a little bit more, the. Just have so much respect for them, honestly, and I think the what you talked about, the artists, their craft, the experimenting and a lot of these guys that are grinding or on tour with somebody else for so long and it takes them a while to even get big. And I went and seen Joe Parra.
00:25:30
Speaker
Who I don't know if you're very familiar with them or if anyone else really is but he had a a show joe paratox with you That was filmed in the up and here in michigan. Oh, yeah, I think I did. I think I heard of that now that you say that Yeah, and he had sold out the Royal Oak Music Theater. And he had his opening acts and he was you know very good, very different style of delivery comedy. And it it was just a great experience, I think, for everyone that showed up. I had already been kind of familiar with the style of comedy, but there are a few people that
00:26:07
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were there that weren't as familiar with it and still had a good time, you know, just just being open to it. And I think the coming off of that, the openness with you got to continue to evolve with having an open mind about music, sports, just willingness to go out and do certain things, depending on your friend group or trying to convince people to, hey, let's go to this DCFC game. And they're like,
00:26:37
Speaker
No, I don't want to go watch soccer. All right. Well fuck you right like some people might not have that mindset, but at least for me the key related to My mental health. I had agoraphobia as a kid and I was scared of large crowds didn't want to go out and didn't want to leave my house and really since then it's been really trial and error on trying to find things to be able to do but sometimes they're if you don't get invited out somewhere a friend that has an extra ticket because they have season tickets to the Lions game or an event for the Red Wings or
00:27:15
Speaker
the tigers or whatever it is that if you look up and try to track which bands are coming and playing which venues in your area because i've gotten really big into metal music the last few years and i'm able to go see shows for 30 40 bucks and some of our general admission like standing room only or whatnot so you're gonna have to deal with that a little bit but regardless of that if there's a specific musical genre that you enjoy then you can definitely find artists that really have a sound that you like and for me i've never been a big like listen to an album type person but i'm always trying to find different artists that kind of fit the bill for the sound that i enjoy and i've been able to do that we had went to
00:28:08
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the corn concert over the summer that one of the openers was Spirit Box. So I was like, OK, well, let me listen to Spirit Box and see if we want to get in there early. And we kind of wanted to anyways, just with the fan base that corn has there. A little bit on the.
00:28:29
Speaker
I wouldn't say weird, but there are a specific culture of people, I guess. yeah So, you know, there is going to be a lot of people that showed up and it was going to be packed right before corn came on. So it was going to be hard to get in the venue anyways, but.
00:28:45
Speaker
Regardless of that, I started listening to Spirit Box and they are a Canadian metalcore band, Courtney and Plant, as the lead singer. And I really, really started enjoying their music. So it was cool to go there to not only It, the ticket, I can't remember exactly how much it was, but I think it was more on the expensive side, but I kind of had the full experience of the artists that were there because Gojira was the middle act spirit box was the opening act. And I got showing up at four o'clock concert starts at five and went on until almost midnight. So having the full experience of being able to do that was pretty cool. And speaking to other people that
00:29:31
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I know that are a fan of that specific type of music or just metal in general and all the subgenres and whatnot. like I've been introduced to a lot of different musical acts that I'm able to go and see concerts for.
00:29:47
Speaker
relatively cheap and there are so many venues around Detroit that you could go to Plymouth there's one in Westland a lot of them in Detroit obviously and then you have the pine knobs and the other places around in the area but really just being open and trying to find different musical acts that you enjoy to be able to go and see them live or just looking around to see, OK, well, which concerts are coming up here soon at this venue or that venue? Or if there's a venue you enjoy more than another one? And you really just I've I've had a lot of fun and I've seen a lot more concerts the last couple of years than I had any time prior. And it kind of plays back to what we were talking about with nostalgia, possibly being helpful, but can also be kind of toxic.
00:30:43
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in that I'd also been offered to go see My Chemical Romance in Chicago next year that they had paid $250 for a ticket. Or I went and seen Breaking Benjamin and Stained before the Korn concert earlier this year. And and you were heavily into 2001 music.
00:31:06
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yeah i mean divorce dad like the divorce dad rock the butt rock my chemical romance i don't think really fits that bill but breaking Benjamin and stain do uh quite a bit and stain was just they're not they're not a closing act and they were co-headliners but the first half of the tour stain was the headliner so they went on last and It's just rock ballads. And it's it's really slow. It's not really hype. it It's just not great closing music. And I think we've gotten away from because we used to have bands work tour where these these bands would travel and you'd be able to go in.
00:31:48
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whatever like major city that you're close to, to be able to go and see these musical artists all around the post hardcore, metal core, all these kind of alternative genres to what was really popular at the time between pop, hip hop, rap and all that. and But it somehow got away so now they're doing festivals that you have to travel for and they're just so expensive so what i'd i'd like to do is have some sort of warp tour happening again but you can still find traveling artists to go and see the ah One that I'm going well, we're going to see in flames with three other bands at I forget what venue it is, but we have gotten seats for it and that was fifty two dollars and
00:32:39
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to see four bands that are really good. um There's a band called Throne, I believe they're called, that had just released an album, kind of blew up, and I can go and see them in the basement of St. Andrews. It's called The Shelter, where they've filmed the rap battles in 8 Mile.
00:33:01
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and they have thrown in three other bands a couple of them I'm kind of iffy on but still gonna go to kind of have the full experience of the show and that's $30 another artist that I feel like could blow up relatively soon is Poppy who had there's just like some controversy about her that I won't really go into, but like her manager sucked and kind of ripped off another person named Mars Argo, who was actually in Saginaw, Michigan, and kind of took her whole personality and made it poppies for these YouTube videos where she was acting like a AI or something.
00:33:47
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But then she transitioned more into doing music, and now has become this kind of metalcore staple for a lot of people. She was on she had featured on a song with Knocked Loose, who is a pretty big band of people that are a fan of that genre of music. And they were actually on Jimmy Kimmel a few weeks ago, and she She went out with Spirit Box at a festival. you know I think she's she's very good, at least the variety of music that she's put out with her latest album, Negative Spaces, that I enjoyed a lot. So we're going to see her. We got the balcony upgrade. So I think tickets ended up being
00:34:35
Speaker
like 90 to $100, but we have seven people going and being down there in Detroit. So that should be a pretty fun night altogether. Yeah, it sounds amazing, actually. um Touchback on. So they are bringing back the I don't know in what capacity, but they are bringing back the warp tour. um Oh, really? Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be as big as it used to be.
00:35:04
Speaker
Um, or if they're trying to make it like a Lollapalooza or South by Southwest type deal. Um, yeah. The last, the last work tour that I went to was my senior year of high school, which way back in 2007 had bands. Um, you know, you might not have heard of, but something like Bad Religion, uh, Chiodos, Mayday Parade, Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, Paramore.
00:35:33
Speaker
Oh, I haven't heard of Paramore, Brian. come on right Red jumpsuit apparatus. Come on. Yeah, I do. You feel shoutos with the guy? What's his name? Craig Owens? Yeah, Coheed and Cambria, the the most boring opening act I've ever listened. They're a great band. Don't get me wrong. But I saw them with Linkin Park and. Oh, God, the other one there at the middle, I was going to escape me, but they're actually really, they're popular too. And they, they both, Linkin Park and that second man crushed it, but Coheed and Cambria, um, came out like super flat. So it was disappointing and they look kind of like the sour taste in their mouth. So for them, I'll listen to them like occasionally, but I just, I think I get PTSD from that concert on what otherwise was an amazing concert. So.
00:36:33
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Um, but yeah, I mean, nostalgia playing both, uh, you know, I still have memories of, uh, Chester Medington, Lincoln Park, and now that they're back with a new kind of controversial band member now, it's not quite the same feeling anymore about them. So sad.
00:37:00
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Yeah, Brian, this is this is this is a festival at three different locations, unfortunately. Oh, for Warp Tour? Yeah. Oh, OK, so it's not a tour in here. That stinks. Yeah. So they should call it that. Yeah, right.
00:37:25
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, a lot of good bands, My Chemical Romance, like a part like 22, Fall Out Boy, Paramore. From what I'm seeing, but yeah, it looks like there's three dates.
00:37:41
Speaker
Yeah, the yeah the literal, you know, bands worked who were veterans. All of us sounds like. Yeah, I think they're I think they're marketing up is like a 30 year anniversary from what I guess would be the start of it. Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah. Well, I think to just the. With going in and seeing a new acts in that, everyone's like, oh, they're they're old music used to be better. And whether that was nostalgia or whether that was actually true, I think they probably had to go through a lot more.
00:38:19
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and find their actual sound. And I think the, a lot of people, if you talk to like specific band, I'll be at Lincoln Park. Like they had an album that they really enjoyed. And we talked about this last week with the prequel trilogy that came out in the early 2000s with Star Wars. Lincoln Park Minutes to Midnight, I didn't find bad. As much as everybody else, but I think I I'd gotten into I'd gotten into them with Meteora and.
00:38:52
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hybrid theory and i had the live in austin i think was the cd that i had but i really didn't have i wasn't at that point i guess agewise That I really had too much reliance or allegiance to a specific sound to an album. So when they came out to, I believe it's called minutes to midnight or when they were doing the transformer soundtrack stuff, like I still really enjoyed it. And now with her new music with, I believe her name is Emily Armstrong. It's, it's not, it's not bad.
00:39:32
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But that's another one that they're touring again and I know they're coming to LCA and I don't even want to look up what tickets for that are going to be. So they're there. There's there's certain things with even sporting events or musical artists, musical acts, whatever.
Live Sports vs. TV Experience
00:39:53
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Those those are ones like I don't really watch the Tigers very much on TV. like I might put them on, but it's not nearly as good as the experience of actually going. And with the Lions, it's not really worth the amount that I have to pay. And if I go to a game and they lose or.
00:40:11
Speaker
I even went to the game against the Panthers last year. I didn't have to pay anything like somebody had an extra ticket, but you know, they were blowing them out in pretty much after the first half. and It's like, well, this kind of sucks, too, because kind of hope for a a closer game.
00:40:30
Speaker
You know, so it's always a crapshoot on what you're going to get. And I think with like what you were saying with Coheed and Camria that maybe they were just off that night because I had the same experience when I went and seen Jimmy World and Third Eye Blind a few years ago. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jimmy World was great. Jimmy still looks good. You know, hasn't aged much. They so you sound great. Doesn't look like he ate a whole world.
00:40:58
Speaker
yeah um Yeah. Yeah, he hasn't gotten to that point yet. I don't know if he ever will. I'm hoping for him if that's if that's still his his goal. But and then Third Eye Blind came out and they just they were the headliner and they just sounded terrible. Luckily, we were able to we didn't pay that much for the tickets. We were able to leave and didn't have to deal with as much traffic. So that was kind of cool. But yeah, I mean, sometimes it's You guys left with like five minutes left on the clock if they were like a sporting event Yeah Yeah, so I mean sometimes that's just how it works. You know, I don't want to and that's what bothered me last year somebody on Twitter is like all these written these people leave in before the games over when the Lions are blowing out the Panthers like you're not real fans like what are you talking like the games over and
00:41:51
Speaker
It's like, what do I want to sit here and some like miracle for the Panthers? They come back and I sit there as they lose. What are you like, what are you talking about? But I mean, that's ah that's a discussion for something else. But yeah, I think the just if I was to give anybody advice is as much as I don't want to, because I enjoy not having to pay so much for these tickets. I enjoy not having to be crowded in going to a concert or going to a sporting event. I enjoy the type of people that are there that are actually passionate about these the artists or the team. But the other day, if you're if you're looking for something to do and you're kind of struggling because of how much something costs, there are definitely alternatives out there as long as you are willing to explore a little bit.
00:42:52
Speaker
Yeah, I think why like I like maybe going to a lens game rather than like a Red Wings or Tigers or Pistons where, you know, the ah product is longer term or more accessibility like over long-term meaning like there's more games to go to um is people are invested in the game. They want to watch like their team for three, three plus hours play.
00:43:22
Speaker
um as opposed to like going to like specifically in my experience a Tigers game where there's 81 home games um and I feel like every time I go to one of those games there's always a group of people who are never actually watching the game they're just there for the social experience and they're like Baxter turns to the game the whole time they're chatting away they're just like they're wearing you know Justin Verlander jerseys from like 10 years ago um and their sunglasses and they're just drinking and talking away and not in even investing in game just because their friends had extra tickets
Social Etiquette & Humor in Interactions
00:44:00
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to go. Those those people pissed me off. It's like the, I don't know, it goes against, in my opinion, like social eic etiquette of of a sporting event or or a venue like that. So, which kind of brings us to my topic that I wanted to talk about this week was
00:44:20
Speaker
from a broad spectrum is like social etiquette so um I went to a cookie decorating party which um with my friends which is kind of just like a millennial event an excuse to just drink like there was very very few cookies being decorated and if they were that people were inebriated and it made sense on their head but you know we're all chatting we're all having a good time and um This girl who was a bit high strong, we were talking about leftovers and David, I'll i'll ask your opinion on leftovers in a minute, but um kind of want to engage your interest or or your expertise on this. of One of my friends brought up that they don't like leftovers. The only thing that they really do is the reheat rice and then eat that. If they get like, you know, Chinese, Mexican, whatever, whatever dish has rice in it.
00:45:19
Speaker
because they enjoy that well this one high strung person in particular said oh you're never supposed to reheat rice it could kill you which then caused this other person to sort of panic um and then it kind of made things awkward for a few minutes and then the the social ah but socializing kind of started kicking back in again so I was I think a lot of people are kind of off put by that comment um but I don't know what's what's your thought about that was I wrong for being irritated about that well first of all whoever said that they only enjoy reheating rice out of their leftovers and eating it um I think that's a problem I
00:46:13
Speaker
yeah right I rice and fries, I think are some of like the two worst things that to reheat because it just doesn't, it tastes bad. Yeah. and Like that and chips never reheat. Like we get like a nacho.
00:46:31
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Yeah, there's, there's certain foods like I get, I used to get pizza a lot and there's certain pizzas that I will reheat and certain ones that I won't because some of them just taste better or better cold than they would be if they were reheated and specific foods. Like if I go to a restaurant and I get it to go box, like I'm never putting fries in there because they're just not going to reheat well.
00:46:57
Speaker
And it's the same thing with rice. I'd never been a big rice person. And I think that was one of my issues with meal prepping is that I was meal prepping a bunch of rice and then reheating it. And it just tasted awful, but I think the.
00:47:13
Speaker
Yes, reheating rice can kill you. The likelihood that it will is very slim, especially if you put it in the fridge right after it's done cooking. I do know there are some articles that have come out. I think it's I believe it's called fried fried rice syndrome where if you were to leave rice out or if you were to leave pasta out for a long time and then reheat it that There's like we talked about before and you had said there's maybe a specific type of bacteria that can cause food poisoning or like you know can cause death in very extreme circumstances
00:47:58
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But I kind of looked at this at length because I have anxiety about it as well before I started meal prepping. And there are tons and tons of people that have meal prepped rice and have eaten it over up to like five days.
00:48:15
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and have never had any issues. Not to say that the microbiome stuff, maybe there's some advantages not to eat the reheated rice, but a lot of people a lot of people have anxiety.
00:48:33
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And I don't think it's right for anybody to say Don't do that. It's going to kill you When you're you're talking about eating anything or reheating it the when you're not really well versed in the topic and You're just spouting out some article that you've seen maybe about somebody that ate reheated rice and died or some fear-markering article or maybe it's their parents that kind of pounded that into them as children not to eat reheated rice for whatever reason but just know your audience don't play the you're gonna die card I don't think because yeah I think
00:49:23
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We were doing when we were joking around about doing ad reads like this. This segment is brought to you by knowing your audience available 24 seven any time. Absolutely free. Just think to yourself. Should I tell you not to do something or you're going to die?
00:49:44
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that We should get a let's be our first T-shirt. Yeah. Let's say Jeff should merge.
00:49:53
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Yeah, knowing knowing your audience. and Because it even with going to concerts and stuff with people that like stained or whoever that have been around for however many years and are trying to play their new stuff to try to sell their new albums and whatever else, like not a lot of people want to hear that. I mean, you can fold some in, obviously, but it's kind of the same thing with telling somebody you're going to die from the reheating rice. It's just not.
00:50:28
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ah Whether or not that person felt like they were being helpful in any way, there's definitely a way to kind of converse around having somebody just go into a full blown panic, thinking they're going to die from eating reheated rice.
00:50:48
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So yeah, I I haven't come across it. I think it's very strange, obviously. But yeah, sorry, that person had to deal with it and you had to deal with it if. Well, yeah, the the person who who said, ah i you know, not real familiar with she or this person kind of came off a little pretentious, but um just in general. So She hadn't been around our group and to my knowledge in a while, so maybe just kind of just like a, yep, didn't read that right. um But ah yeah, I mean, I mean, I say off-color things all the time. i At least and I'm aware that I'm i'm joking. I have a pretty dry sense of humor though, so, you know, I'm sure I can tell, ah make people uncomfortable. um Like today I,
00:51:46
Speaker
I was working on an Excel spreadsheet and I was using what they call a pivot table and I clicked on a wrong wrong cell and I thought I was clicking on the right one. I'm like, Hey, there's no data in here. What, you know, what's up with that? And they go, Oh, click, click this. And I said, I really responded to them on Teams. I was like, Oh shit, I'm going to get fired. Like in my head, i like that would have been, you know, it was kind of funny. Like.
00:52:12
Speaker
my you know, minute little detail that I i i didn't get and it's like, uh oh, I'm gonna get fired, but I feel like they literally responded a little like, um, not that I'm aware of, I think you're fine. So, you know, uh, whether you think it's funny or helpful, sometimes it's, uh,
00:52:34
Speaker
not necessarily a you think it's other people. Um, and you kind of have to be in tune with that. So. You know empathy and really just Reading the people around you is is key. So um Yeah, I don't know if it's really just being able to read the people around you and And maybe that person wasn't invited around for reasons like that or for whatever reason. But I think we deal with certain people in specific friend groups that maybe rub us the wrong way or maybe somebody that you don't exactly like, but you know, you're going to run into them. But yeah, that is that is like full on. I don't even know what you would call that, but that is it's not good.
00:53:26
Speaker
It's not good, especially to say something like that when you're not too well versed in the topic. And I'm kind of on the fence with, you know, if you're if you're able to say it in a in a better way. But I don't know if there's there's there's definitely better ways to say it. But I think at the end of the day, it's it's probably good to just keep your mouth shut. Yes, there's there's there have been a lot of times in my life where I had thought something in my head and didn't say it.
00:53:54
Speaker
And then immediately right after somebody says something that if I would have said what was in my head, I would have came off as the biggest asshole ever. and So I just kind of play back to those moments and be like, OK, maybe I should wait to say something. It's kind of like if you're watching something with someone and they ask you a question and then their question immediately gets answered. I've always heard like if you have a question, you're you're probably going to have an answer within five seconds.
00:54:24
Speaker
And that's kind of how I kind of live my life. The five second rule, not around eating food off the ground. Man, this economy is 10 seconds now. Yeah, I guess it depends on what you what falls on the floor. I mean, if it is reheated rice, I think I might just have to let it lie there. I'm not the dog eat it, but. Right.
00:54:50
Speaker
um Yeah, I mean, uh, this is also coming from the person, me, um, who was listening to a story of, uh, this guy, one of my buddies, he's a ah local school teacher and he, but he has a very high tolerance for spicy things. Like they don't affect him at all. Apparently it's, it's very strange, but he ate a, Oh God, a ghost pepper. Um,
00:55:20
Speaker
Like he just eats them whole and he's fine. Um, but he's telling the story. He's like, yeah, like when I, with my kids, my, my, my students, you know, if I get like really close with them, uh, you know, it's like, I'll do, I'll do something like special form like that. And then I instantly said what molest them. And, uh, while everyone around him, including him was laughing.
00:55:48
Speaker
Uh, you know, I knew that, but that audience would, would appreciate that and get that. But, um, if I were to say that, you know, maybe around around your fender plate to like swably or somebody like that, or or Eric, like, you know, might not be like this dude's freaking weird. Um, I might, I might be received as, you know, telling somebody that you could die from, from rice eating reheated rice. So, um,
00:56:16
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But I was at least aware of that, you know, in that situation. So, um, you know, also had great community timing made me want to get back up on stage students. So that's what we call a twofer. Yeah.
00:56:31
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ah Well, that that's that's a quintessential difference, right? I've had I've had a lot of jokes, not land. I think the not every shot goes in kind of mentality. But right even if it leads to some silence, everyone's like, what the fuck? No one's going to panic because they think they're going to die because of your bad joke. So I think that exists in kind of a different realm of Maybe try not to experiment with your routines or your timing too much on your friends. And yeah, I mean, if it gets a laugh, it gets a laugh. But I think at the end of the day, like I overthink a lot of the things that I say or talk about and I've had.
00:57:14
Speaker
I've had issues where I've come to realize, like, you know, i I think I may think I know more than I let on or I will say something and then immediately look up and realize that I'm wrong and, you know, correct myself about it. But just socially, I think we're all kind of experimenting and we all want people to like us deep down. Oh, yeah, 100 percent.
00:57:43
Speaker
Yeah, so I think it kind of comes back to kind of what we were talking about is that you never really know and trying to have empathy for somebody that may have said something like that to kind of try to understand like what they're getting at or if they were raised a certain way or if that fear had been in their mind for however long for whatever reason, maybe they felt that they were being helpful. Who knows? But yeah, I mean, it's just it it It sucks to kind of be around when ah something like that gets dropped. And I'm sure the person at the end of the night was probably thinking like, oh, man, I probably shouldn't have said that. Yeah. Well, I actually just remember this one. well So we were talking about having kids and she was around this person. i Sorry, not she or he, you know, I don't recognize gender. It was a they.
00:58:43
Speaker
um this person we're asking like hey do you want to have kids and this person said no absolutely not I think kids are disgusting and ah okay you know I'm i'm a parent again i if people don't want kids I'm not going to judge them for that if people want kids I'm not going to judge them for that it's whatever they choose sometimes people can't have kids either and that's even a bigger path for where empathy comes in of recognizing like don't talk about kids you know it's kind of like that type of thing um also coming from me who i think every time i'm at either church or just with like family members who i haven't seen they're like hey so when you have another one um and that that that is just as annoying um but it's i don't know it's just i had fun overall at that party but it's just like
00:59:42
Speaker
I try to understand where people are coming from in all aspects. I may not agree with what they're saying, but, you know, I kind of just, to keep things lighthearted and, you know, even if I disagree with this person doesn't mean i they hate them or like them or think think of them less. It's, you know, sometimes in that moment, it's like, dude, WTF, you know, so, um, but again, you know, like I said, I had a fun time and,
01:00:10
Speaker
saw people who I haven't seen in a couple months and catching up so overall great night and you know I got to work on my comedy routine with my friends so but apparently I can't do that anymore so um yeah but so
01:00:31
Speaker
Yeah, i I think it kind of comes down to it's not about what we say, but kind of how you say it. And I think you kind of touched on it a little bit, but the yeah, the kids aspect thing I think is hard for a lot of people, like you had mentioned with some people that can't have kids um currently with me. You know, I have two nephews that I love. I could see me possibly having kids later on down the line, but it trying to work on myself.
01:01:01
Speaker
for I can kind of work in a relationship because it's not exactly trial and error. You know, these are meeting anybody or having a relationship with them. You know, you're you're very responsible. You are responsible for a lot of their emotional well-being and.
01:01:21
Speaker
being able to talk with them, help them out and do certain things with my narcissistic tendencies that I'm kind of working through. But that's generally one of my fears of getting into a relationship or kind of how that would translate to any kids that I would have. But for somebody to say, oh, no, I think kids are disgusting. That's I don't know that whatever. But I think he he touched on it quite a bit, too, to say.
01:01:51
Speaker
Yeah, it was ah ah a good night overall. You're able to do this. You're able to do that. I don't think there's ever going to be a time that. Everything's 100 percent perfect for any night that you go to, whether it's you that said something or somebody that somebody else had said something.
Power, Influence, and Internet Culture
01:02:07
Speaker
But at least it gives you content for the podcast or something to talk to your wife about when you get in the car. Yeah. yeah Did you hear her say that you're going to die if you reheat reheated rice? Oh, my God. Oh.
01:02:25
Speaker
oh yeah that's how that's like that's like the bread and butter of how making every relationship work you two could both be fucked up but you know as long as you make fun of your friend even like your friends like so I was gonna meet us you know that discussion like you go out to dinner with friends you're like can you believe that you know so-and-so was chewing with her mouth open how disgusting is that and you have a chat for about that for 30 minutes so um my advice is for any relationship is yeah you're both going to have your own issues. You're a team in the end. Um, but yeah, make fun of, make fun of other people at all times. It'll make your, your relationship better regardless of you're married or dating or whatever. Um, but yeah, that, that, uh, that person was definitely the, uh, Coheed and Cambria of that night. So I think that's the overall lesson from this podcast is
01:03:22
Speaker
don't be coheed in cambria amongst lincoln park Yeah. You know, if you're not going to have your best stuff every night, but maybe realize it or let people know, own up to it or whatever. I think maybe next week, like talking about power and influence. I have like this idea of just like starting a cult, which I'd like to do. And I don't know if it would be.
01:03:52
Speaker
Amish, like a play on Amish that we just get rid of the internet. Or maybe just something like pornography in general, I think it's been very toxic. And I'd like to talk more about it, but I feel like it would start like a whole, I think the whole industry is very bad, top to bottom. um um Obviously support, you know, ah a woman's right to do whatever and have the freedom to do whatever but i think is like a very predatory industry and it has been for however many years um but yeah even with like the cult like thinking about the actions and reactions you know if we were to get rid of pornography all together you know then what's that gonna come down to is there gonna be somebody that's you know selling hand-drawn tits for like ten bucks or something or hand-drawn dicks or whatever so you're gonna have to like
01:04:54
Speaker
Find out who's around like selling these pictures or something, or just getting rid of the internet altogether. Like maybe somebody has smuggled in like an iPhone that is sharing it around. You know, like try to snuff out, but.
01:05:11
Speaker
that's that that's one of the things are like well I feel like if I get into power I'm just gonna be corrupt I don't know if there's ever been like cool cult leaders there's certainly not very many that you hear of that were you know just chill people or maybe it's just maybe just don't hear about them because the legacy media does want us to know yeah yeah ah like ah yeah alright I'll save that one for our cult inspired episode I'll make a bunch of jokes but Um, yeah, we should, uh, it's like, it's like that Ronnie change joke. Um, we're just talking about how we're going to, and probably like 20 years, we're going to treat the internet. Um, but like we treat smoking. It's like, you can only do it outside and keep it away from children. Yeah. He's like, he's like, how do we as a society have infinite knowledge of the internet and everybody's so stupid?
01:06:11
Speaker
Yeah, there was Yeah, you you have access but you have access to everything. You know, it's not it's not pigeonholed to be like, you know, you have access to the Internet to learn more about coding or I know a lot of parents that have screen time limits on their kids, but a lot that don't. And yeah, access to everything, it just kind of comes back down to pornography. I don't know the truth of it, but I've seen tweets where North Korean soldiers had gone up to Russia to
01:06:43
Speaker
Join the war against Ukraine or something. And they discovered internet porn and that's all they do. Like men are, yeah, men are very simple as much as I don't want it to be. But yeah, we are attracted to. ah Very simple things. I don't know. I don't know why it sounds like a. It sounds like an old time war headline, the Korean. note Whoa, I thought it was Kim, not so sure. Yeah.
01:07:13
Speaker
ah korean warefront came to a screeching halt when they discovered pon this morning at six Yeah, the Battle of the Bulge is having a whole different meaning for these North Korean soldiers in Russia.
01:07:25
Speaker
yeah i mean that's maybe that's what i'll do just ah cra that was called sort of a cult just do an alpha male camp imagine me up there like fucking five foot four like screaming at people have you seen those videos they're awful just like a bunch of dudes like bald buff dudes on testosterone just yelling at like a bunch of like these skinny teenage kids like trying to turn them into alpha males which I haven't looked much into it, but I think like the whole alpha male is the movement or whatever is just complete bullshit. And, you know, look at a guy like Dan Campbell that is very masculine, but has small dogs likes his Starbucks coffee will. Has no fear of crying or taking responsibility when he feels like he's at fault about something. I think that's just, you know, that's that's alpha male mentality.
01:08:22
Speaker
Not like these guys that are, you know, thinking these thinking women are fucking objects or going around and just being ah you're being in a fucking douchebag is what it's called. like It's not being a fucking alpha male. you What the fuck are you talking about?
01:08:43
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, yeah. If you're not an alpha male, you're what what are they called? Beta cock. I heard that. Jokingly and out so many times when I'm starting to feel like it's kind of starting like a serious like insult now With but yeah, i I have not heard of these like alpha male, you know boot camps Boot camp in my mind is not a great term right now because they're already fell for that Ponzi scheme. So um you know, but trying to avoid another one. Yeah. Maybe I would have had better success at an alpha male bootcamp for finding a job that I did for coding bootcamp while in the middle of it, chat GPT drops. Yeah. That's how I feel about the lion season right now is how I felt about chat GPT being dropped when I'm in the middle of a coding bootcamp. Yeah. Yeah. Just one layoff after another, just one ACL torn after another.
01:09:38
Speaker
So it's yeah, it's very close to kind of like the same thing, but at least with trying to find a job and i'm I'm sitting here trying to get better at podcasting, trying to. Saying it's a hobby, but obviously in the back of my mind would love to.
Financial Risks: Crypto and Stocks
01:09:57
Speaker
Make it out more to. Compete with the likes of Hawk to us so that I too can eventually rug pull people on a meme coin.
01:10:08
Speaker
No, I would, I would never do that. I love all of our listeners. Please, please share, this please share this podcast with all your friends. Like and subscribe at any podcast provider near you. Um, yeah. Yeah. She, ah they, they rug pull the the coin and and she has not made a social media posts since so. Coincidence. I think not. It.
01:10:34
Speaker
It's one of those things I've seen. There's this woman, Taylor Mathis on Twitter, which Maybe some people won't believe me, but she is a very attractive woman and does sports betting, which sports betting is its own different thing. I think that's also terrible. I've I know people that it's basically ruined their lives. I. We can get into that more at a different time, but she had also had a coin on. Something and had claimed that
01:11:09
Speaker
Whoever was making it like threatened her, wanted her to do it, and they barely gave her any ownership of the coin. They owned most of the most of the coin, so eventually people got rug pulled and everyone's coming after her. She was getting sued all the shit that had happened. And I don't know how much I believe her, but she had come out and said all these things that she didn't really understand it. The people that had signed her on to do it, they were wanting her to market it more and she wasn't marketing it enough. They were threatening her. All this stuff.
01:11:45
Speaker
so again don't know how much I believe that but if that's the case very fucked up if it's but I can kind of imagine it being the same thing with this Haley Welch chick don't know anything about her I know she's got famous for talking about spitting on dicks I don't know yeah I don't know If I, I don't know much about crypto. I doubt if much, many other people do, but I can imagine it's kind of the same thing that somebody had given her a bunch of money to market this thing that she really had no control over the supply of it. And that person paid her and rug pulled a bunch of people to make a ton of money. So she had got paid on the front end and somebody else made a bunch of money on the back end.
01:12:34
Speaker
But it's it's two sides of the same coin of people being stupid one She is stupid for agreeing if this is the case agreeing to ever put out a meme coin Well, I guess really three sides of the coin to anyone in her inner group had any semblance to tell her not to do it or if anyone had any knowledge around it that didn't immediately stop her for agreeing to do this. That's stupid. And also anybody that actually invested in that coin is stupid. But at the end of the day, these these pump and dump schemes that people know their pump and dump schemes, at least people try to get in and try to get out to kind of ride the wave and kind of outsmart the people that have most of the supply of these coins. But I'm not too familiar with the entire marketplace, but I do understand there's something called liquidity.
01:13:30
Speaker
And what equity means is basically like supply and demand. If you're trying to sell something, you have to have somebody willing to buy it. And a lot of these meme coins, there's definitely not enough people willing to buy it if you're trying to sell it so you can get caught in.
01:13:47
Speaker
trying to sell something that says it's worth X amount, but the only way you're able to get rid of it is if you undercut how much it's currently worth by a lot because not a lot of people are willing to buy it. And ah with a lot of these coins and all that, they might say you're you've made this much money, but you can never truly sell it because no one's willing to buy it.
01:14:07
Speaker
and it's a whole it's a scam it's a whole issue i am a ah veteran of the the original game stop pump back in the day that anything with anything with stocks anything with options or crypto it is a 0 some game there are going to be winners they're going to be losers and more often than not you're going to be on the losing side of things i was up thirty six thousand dollars off twelve hundred bucks at one time and i turned that thirty six thousand dollars into like four thousand dollars for being stupid why because i was twenty something year old kid that had
01:14:48
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no idea what I was dealing with and couldn't deal with the emotions of having that much money and seeing it dwindle down or whatever else. So not really advice for anyone else, but feel free to laugh at my pain and, you know, maybe learn something from it. But I know it is trying to convince somebody of doing something, you know, no one's ever going to listen. They try to find their own way, but Yeah, go ahead and try to find your own way. Just make sure that you have covered yourself enough so that the pain of losing that money is not detrimental to your financial situation. And that's the only thing that I can really hope for. But I know Wall Street Bets is a treasure trove of people that have lost tens of hundreds of millions of dollars doing just stupid stuff. And I, I hope those people have
01:15:44
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a hundred times the amount of money that they're sending screenshots on their portfolio, but at the end of the day, it's not fun. It's not cool to lose a ton of money because I've had it happen. Yeah. I get that. Speaking of laughing, I'm in Um, pump and dump is also, it was also my name of my dating life before I met my wife. So, um, womp womp. And then.
01:16:12
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to, I mean, the worst investment, ah sorry to poke at you simultaneously is at least you didn't spend $10,000 and didn't get a job. So, womp, womp. Yeah, well, that's also happened as well. But, you know, I've kind of choked that down so far that I don't really like to think about it.
Podcast Closing Remarks
01:16:38
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Money just kind of comes out of my account every month and I don't like looking at it.
01:16:42
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yeah sad i don't even have a job in the first i don't even have a job anymore for the uh what we went to school for so uh you know not doing much better but yeah anyway uh you want to wrap this up
01:17:05
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Yeah, I was going to start playing you off on the outro music if you just kept going on. But I think this works as a good place to stop. Thank you, everyone who's listening. Please share this with anyone else. If you've enjoyed listening to us babble for the last hour and a half, we're glad to be a part of your day. Yeah, please please subscribe. we we We could use the support. We spent our last $10,000 on this. You know, we're not great at investing. So, um, you know, please subscribe. Please help us out. We'll do anything. includ your valley Please invest in the late stage evolution coin. It's not a pump and dump scheme. I promise. Yeah. Stomping home. Whoa. Wait, nevermind. Sorry. Go on.
01:17:54
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ah To the moon to the moon late stage evolution coin and Just so this isn't taking out of context. There is no There's never a world where I would ever start a meme coin for the reasons. I just laid out For legal purposes, this is a joke for legal purposes. That was a joke. All right. Goodbye. Bye