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Inflation Implications Retaliation
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Brian and Dave discuss the inflation and the implications that it has had since the pandemic and the stress that it has put on the American populace.
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Unpredictable Weather and Its Metaphors
00:00:01
David Isaacs
Welcome everybody. It is February 12th, 2025. I'm here with Brian and Brian, how are we doing?
00:00:10
Brian Leithead
I'm good, man. Waiting for the snowstorm that we got coming in the Midwest to hit so I can get up nice and early and shovel. But other than that, I am fabulous. How about you?
00:00:24
David Isaacs
like the enthusiasm, yes I'm
00:00:42
Brian Leithead
Yeah, like earlier this week, it was like supposed to start at like noon today and then go until like four o'clock in the morning or tomorrow. Now it's like, it was then it was four o'clock. Now it's yeah, overnight. So who knows if it's actually coming in could just be all make believe like the matrix.
00:01:10
Brian Leithead
We don't have enough time for that today.
00:01:22
David Isaacs
up north michigan and i was driving my buddy because we were going to uh my buddy's cabin so a different buddy not the buddy that has the cabin and we hit this crazy snow storm and i was thinking about like getting off like people are going down to like 20 miles an hour low visibility snow coming down sideways like packing the road and He looks up the radar and it's this small little line, like this little rectangle. He's like, no, we just keep driving for like three more miles. We'll be past it. And sure enough, like drive a little bit further and no snow on the ground, no snow coming. You look behind and you can literally see the storm. You can see the snow. And then there's just like a wall where it stops. and It was the craziest thing, like.
00:02:14
David Isaacs
Definitely not the craziest thing I've ever seen, but yeah, I mean, it was weird. So yeah, it was clear road once we got past that for the rest of the way up. So I don't know what, I don't know anything about weather patterns. I think whether people are just gypsies and just guessing half the time.
00:02:35
David Isaacs
but yeah, if you understand like weather patterns and like how there could be that tiny a a snow storm in terms of miles, because it was only like 10 to 12 miles long, um, at that short point, like the width of it, but it was long, like east to west. It was crazy.
00:02:56
Brian Leithead
hu
00:02:59
Brian Leithead
I can go through a database and tell you what's wrong with it, but I could not tell you anything about science. jury's still out on that one for me. It's never really clicked in between these two ears.
00:03:11
David Isaacs
Yeah, I like we get lake effects and it's supposed to be the humidity off the lakes that form into these clouds and basically just dump on the coast of Western Michigan. And I don't get it. I don't the lake effect thing. I don't get if you look up the rain map, like which areas get the most rain in the United States, there's Seattle parts of Florida and They're like very small. It would be like a county That gets all that rain and then there will be counties near them. They get like not nearly as much rain so It's one of those things like traffic I still don't understand how CDs get sound
00:03:58
David Isaacs
or CDs work in general or like tapes or vinyls for that matter. But yeah, whether it's just a whole other black box that I haven't really dug into and I don't feel like I would believe anything that they're saying anyways, I think it's just witchcraft.
00:04:16
Brian Leithead
What you just said was witchcraft. I'm gonna burn you the next time I see you.
00:04:21
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah, tie me in a bag and if I escape, then I'm a witch. If I drown, then I wasn't.
00:04:30
Brian Leithead
Okay, yeah, there you go.
00:04:32
David Isaacs
Yeah. Well, that's what we do. We invent a time machine. We send a meteorologist back to Salem.
00:04:39
Brian Leithead
Yeah. It's like, it's like Terminator. The future can't exist without the past and, uh, or the past can't exist without the future.
00:04:50
David Isaacs
Yes. So like, what were they? it just meteorologists that they sent back to Salem? And that's what started the whole thing.
00:04:57
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I guess, uh, uh, some broad who could tell you when it was going to snow and then they burned her.
00:05:03
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah. Send back with like a barometer or something. They're talking about air pressure. What do you fucking mean? Air pressure. It's just air. Like how is it? And people get like. They'll have a broken ankle or they'll have a hip replacement or something like they knew it was going to rain because their hip or their ankle started hurting. Like what is that?
00:05:31
Brian Leithead
Again, the jury's still out on that whole science. I don't get it. You can use your big fancy words to try and confuse me, but I still don't believe you.
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00:05:42
David Isaacs
even so like I went down the rabbit hole the other day with CDs and videotapes is if you're old enough you remember VHS tapes and maybe the iterations of videotapes for that but I guess because I seen a news report that VHS tapes are starting to lose their quality like eventually they're just gonna wear down to the point where you can't really watch them anymore
00:06:12
Brian Leithead
Huh.
00:06:13
David Isaacs
VHS it has something to do with magnets So it was all negative film and then there was like magnets or something so they could get the sound There were magnets in the VHS so that they could get the sound out of the tape because it was just film
00:06:20
Brian Leithead
Right.
00:06:34
David Isaacs
But there was something with magnets, I think, that had something to do with the sound. Whereas CDs, I think, is just simply them looking at the still images that are burned in a circle on the CD. And they were explaining the sound too, but I have to go back and actually look to see what they were saying. I know the VHS has something to do with magnets. That's as far as I understood about it.
00:07:08
Brian Leithead
I completely zoned out because you were talking witchcraft. I just want to stop this recording right now. like This is getting too real right now.
00:07:16
David Isaacs
Yeah, I don't know. There's like what else about the world that you're just never going to be able to explain it to me for me to be able to understand. Like there's a whole science in figuring out how many calories something is.
00:07:31
David Isaacs
I think. Like, how do you do that?
00:07:35
Brian Leithead
Yeah, yeah. and If I were doing it, I would just count with a pencil tip how many pencil pokes it takes to poke that out on a piece of paper, like if I were tracing it.
00:07:36
David Isaacs
No, you you tell me right now.
00:07:51
Brian Leithead
And that's how you get your calories.
00:07:54
David Isaacs
All right, that could be how they do it. I don't know.
00:07:58
Brian Leithead
That makes perfect sense to me. I mean, that's pretty fancy. It's pretty smart. I, if I don't say so myself, you know, I don't want to, I'm not calling myself Einstein, but you know.
00:08:03
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:08:06
David Isaacs
Yeah, I mean.
00:08:09
David Isaacs
Well, who knows how they're actually figuring it out? You know, you had people that were looking up, uh, what was it?
00:08:14
Brian Leithead
Right.
00:08:16
David Isaacs
Go, they would like gutted goat and it would be like reading it to see like, and that would be how they were fortune telling or reading people's palms.
00:08:28
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:30
Brian Leithead
If you get.
00:08:30
David Isaacs
Like I just walk in there with a birthmark or something and they think I'm like the antichrist.
00:08:36
Brian Leithead
Yeah, or maybe christ himself who knows you don't know the palms know Well, you know, it's not science inflation Maybe it is actually science.
00:08:42
David Isaacs
Yeah, I don't know.
00:08:53
Brian Leithead
I don't know. I'm sure it's uh comes from the greek root of I Don't know couldn't even tell you
00:08:56
David Isaacs
Yeah, something Latin about this is all made up to get the rich more money or something, but
00:09:10
Brian Leithead
There you
00:09:12
David Isaacs
It's not something that I think is too well understood, at least when the problem really started with COVID stimulus checks, the issues with supply chains, but they're always There's always some issue. There's always something that comes up and whether it's wage increases, whether it was higher costs for materials, higher costs from the machineries to do it, problems with the, what is it, like shipping, like the supply chain, as they always said, oh, it's the supply chain.
00:09:48
David Isaacs
like i don't know but sometimes i feel like that shit's just made up bullshit because how is an arizona iced d 99 cents and it has been for for forever long last time i checked i haven't looked at this in forever But the cost of eggs, like how is, how are we continuously, there's always an issue. There's always an issue. Something's up with the eggs. Something goes wrong. We don't have as many eggs. Egg prices shoot up. Like the last three years, I swear like every two months there's, there's an egg problem.
00:10:20
David Isaacs
Like, what's to say they're not just making this up to try to get more money out of us? Because I know there was a lawsuit that I was part of, class action lawsuit in Michigan, that the farmers got together and they were artificially inflating the cost of milk.
00:10:41
David Isaacs
So, like, who's to say, like, how the fuck am I supposed to know or not know if there's a bird flu crisis at the fucking Tyson chicken or wherever the fuck Kroger keeps their chickens that lay all these eggs? Like, how am I supposed to fact check that? I don't know. So they could also just make it up like how I can't verify whether it is or it isn't. But all I know is like we continue to like how we continuously have so many chickens sick.
00:11:12
Brian Leithead
Yeah. And it seems like every time it's worse than the previous, because like, you can always tell how bad it is because the price of eggs in my lifetime has never been this high. So clearly this, at least in my opinion, has been the most exponentially worse, you know, case of whatever it is, just based on that fact, if you want to call it that.
00:11:39
Brian Leithead
But yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's farmer greed, corporate greed, whoever, just lower the price to damn eggs.
00:11:48
David Isaacs
Well it's been inflation on a ton of different accounts and it really hit hard in grocery stores because everything in the grocery store went up. And the reason I know that we'll never have a revolution in this country is a few years ago Gatorade went from 32 ounces down to 28 ounces and I didn't hear a fucking word out of anybody Anybody they kept their mouths shut about it. They're like, oh thank thank you fucking Lord Gatorade for blessing me with four less ounces for probably the same fucking costs anywhere Like and I just read an article that It was actually on LinkedIn, which I linked in has become such a fucking smog of garbage but simply orange They changed their packaging
00:12:42
David Isaacs
that they were claiming it used less plastic, which it did, because it was smaller. I think like instead of 44 ounces, it was down to 38 ounces or something like that. And they changed their packaging so it didn't look like it was simply orange anymore. And it was also shrunk. So shrink-flation also happens when things that you buy at a certain size go down in size, but they're still gonna cost the same.
00:13:08
David Isaacs
and they lost tens of millions of dollars because of this packaging change. And they had also wanted the grocery stores to charge less for this, or they claimed that they wanted them to charge less for this package because it was smaller and the grocery stores didn't. But instead, people looked at it. They thought it was cheap. It didn't look very good. So then they opted to go to get a different brand of orange juice, and I think now they're reverting their packaging bag.
00:13:43
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I didn't hear any of that. Shame on you simply.
00:13:46
David Isaacs
Let me just make this up. Yeah. So there's the whole r slash shrinkflation subreddit that I'm going to have to go down, but, sorry, it wasn't simply orange. It was Tropicana.
00:14:05
David Isaacs
Or maybe it's the same thing.
00:14:09
Brian Leithead
Yeah, it might be, I know that.
00:14:14
Brian Leithead
Tropicana is like the Nabisco of the the juice, or one of the biggest ones, so it wouldn't surprise me if they bought them out. It was independent for a long time, but you just like other things, it it kind of makes a boom in the industry and think gets bought out by the OGs.
00:14:35
David Isaacs
Yeah, that's a native, the soap brand. I don't know if you're familiar with them, but yeah, they were, they were bought out as well.
00:14:42
Brian Leithead
Hm. Nope.
00:14:51
David Isaacs
I think, um, um, yeah, by Procter and Gamble, November, 2017 for a hundred and million dollars.
00:15:00
Brian Leithead
Holy moly.
00:15:01
David Isaacs
BNG is first major purchase in nearly a decade.
Corporate Moves and Consumer Impact
00:15:12
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I know that, let's say that garden salsa, that's like almost exclusive to Meyer. It's like all fresh salsa or something.
00:15:23
Brian Leithead
They do those tortilla chips and then they have like the different salsas and like Meyer, Target, Kroger, I think.
00:15:35
Brian Leithead
Anyway,
00:15:35
David Isaacs
Jack special salsa
00:15:38
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I think so. That sounds familiar. Anyway, they're headquartered over in Ferndale, which is, you know, just a few miles from me here in Michigan. And they were independent for a long time. And their accountant at the beginning of it was giving them crap because they would use a lot of money to get fresh ingredients to make the salsa. But eventually, after spending a lot of money, they, you know,
00:16:05
Brian Leithead
got bought by Campbell's, uh, like 10 years ago when Campbell's was trying to expand as like a company. but then they got, was it Campbell's? I'm like 90% sure it's Campbell's. and then when Campbell's before the pandemic started kind of tanking, they tried to sell that company. And I think the owners who they bought it from ended up buying it back. So,
00:16:33
Brian Leithead
That's what happens when you get.
00:16:33
David Isaacs
current for a score in 2015 for $231 million.
00:16:38
Brian Leithead
Yeah.
00:16:45
Brian Leithead
But yeah, they sold the Campbell's or some major, you know, corporate company, and then they kind of ran it into the ground. They started. They put it on there like one other kind of newer labels, like fresh label or something. and it didn't do as well as they were hoping. So they, they ended up trying to sell it. And I believe the owners bought it back. That was a couple of years ago, but I know that it's still in store.
00:17:12
David Isaacs
Yeah, from, the Detroit free press here. So Campbell's did buy it for $231 million in 2015 and they announced they're selling it in 2019 after firm posted a quarterly loss to $475 million.
00:17:35
Brian Leithead
okay let's say who bought it i know that i said i knew that the original ownership group was interested in trying to raise funds for it
00:17:45
David Isaacs
Yeah, I'm trying to trying to read it here and said this is Aronson. So somewhere further up in the article that part of the group that aimed a buyback garden fresh gourmet. And yeah. Seems like.
00:18:11
David Isaacs
He was one of three groups
00:18:15
David Isaacs
that we're bidding for it and doesn't seem like there's an update but they could have been the ones to buy it back who knows
00:18:26
Brian Leithead
Yeah, yeah, like I said, there it's I still see it in the store all the time. So, you know, somebody ah ah eventually bought it and kind of turned it around. But guess my broader point was, yeah, corporate greed and especially in the times of inflation, doesn't seem like it's ever been higher. And I think in addition to damn chicken prices or damn egg prices,
00:18:48
David Isaacs
they have egg prices, they have chicken prices, I mean really anywhere you go there's not really a way to be able to escape it and Even with, I know peaches were a big one because I used to love peaches growing up.
00:19:01
David Isaacs
And I would always go to the grocery store and I could never find them. And come to find out with different weather patterns in Georgia, Florida, wherever they grow peaches at in the Southeast United States, they weren't able to produce as many peaches.
00:19:17
David Isaacs
So there weren't as many peaches around.
00:19:18
Brian Leithead
And remember
00:19:21
David Isaacs
So the cost of being able to get those went up because the supply went down so much. I think the only thing we can really do and the problem is that were so sold on convenience. So with me, I invested in company Kava, which is kind of like the new Mediterranean Chipotle. And they've been making waves around the United States and they're set up to be, you know, their infrastructure set up to handle online orders, people coming in, people picking up online orders or door dashing or whatever else. And I invested in them.
00:19:57
David Isaacs
A little while ago, but when I kind of came to the conclusion of this like these companies that sell you on convenience is are ones that are making so much more money off of people like Netflix announced no more password sharing they've been increasing the prices for however long.
00:20:14
David Isaacs
there have been studies done on how Facebook set up a kind of like a casino with a lot of flashing lights and making you feel good about likes and all this other stuff to keep you engaged with their site as much as they possibly can, because that's how they make money to sell ads, Amazon obviously being a big one, which I'm kind of torn between because
00:20:26
Brian Leithead
Yep.
00:20:33
David Isaacs
One, they solve the problem where a store wouldn't have what exactly what you're looking for or your exact brand. But now like, how are a majority of Americans having a prime account or worrying things off Amazon because of it. And yeah, a lot of these companies that have just kind of sold you on convenience. So even with Grocery stores and fast food places. I think the only real thing to be able to do is just grow your own gardens with what you're able to grow and It's mostly like vegetables. Like I think here in Michigan you can do some fruits maybe like strawberries or something but just the convenience that we've been so sold on for so long and the companies that really dug into like the psychology of
00:21:21
David Isaacs
the average American, especially the average American parent that is just looking for a way to unwind at the end of the day or doesn't want to go and grocery shop for or just go shopping for maybe like a new set of sheets they can just order it on Amazon or scroll through Facebook or pick up McDonald's on the way home instead of cooking because I'd like to at least this summer get back into gardening just to try to stick it to
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00:21:52
David Isaacs
these these food companies because even still like
00:21:57
David Isaacs
even if half off all everything on their menu like people would just flock to them you know so it's hard even really take a stand against something especially just being a single person against the company say like oh well I'm not buying that because of this and yeah it can be effective in some ways but at the end of the day like
00:22:26
David Isaacs
They're always going to be able to find a way to get you to engage with that brand if you have been previously. And how are you ever supposed to know all the ethics of things that go into what these companies do? And even especially talking about Native, how they are a proctor and gamble company and they have been for however long.
00:22:46
David Isaacs
it's Not only partly do with inflation that's been an issue but the companies that have bought up smaller companies in different sectors and whatnot that have just The boss to be The boss is just like hey sold the company, you know, these these guys said they take care of you So I'm off to Hawaii or my vacation house. Like don't call don't text. I'm done.
00:23:11
David Isaacs
And they come in and within a couple of years time, you got your healthcare gutted. You're paying a lot more for healthcare. Your 401k match sucks. You're not getting raises like this other stuff. So it really not only, and they'll start charging more for their products because they understand that they can. I know the, there was a case study in college where there was the cheeseburger index and not to be confused with Big Mac index that was used to measure inflation. But it was basically that these fast food restaurants kind of colluded and understood that people were willing to spend more on a cheeseburger than they originally thought. So they just kept marking the price up until they started getting a decline in sales. So, you know, the ah ah dollar menu that is ancient in terms now of like 15, however many years ago, like they could probably still make money.
00:24:10
David Isaacs
just charging a dollar for it, but they don't have to because people are willing to pay more.
00:24:16
Brian Leithead
Yeah. just like with McDonald's, they had the all day breakfast menu and then they use the pandemic as an excuse to take it away because were eating that more than anything else on the menu at all points of the day. so it drove their sales were up, but their sales on their every other day, you know, lunch menu went down. So they took it away.
00:24:41
David Isaacs
Yeah, I'm trying to make sure that I'm trying to make sure that this is actually true. I have I have I remember I remember looking at this, but the AI overview of this fucking shitty thing on Google. Well, that's just estimating the cost.
00:25:15
David Isaacs
it's true but don't take my word for it you wanna look and see even if it's not just The cost with how much money they're willing to make on something is not the entire story. It's supply and demand. It's how much of the market share do they have or just trying to charge people as much as they can before people start leaving. And I think America has been set up so much in a way for people that are unhappy, overworked, that
00:25:50
David Isaacs
they're willing to kind of put up with it. It's like, Oh, whatever. It's an extra dollar on Netflix. Oh, we can't password share anymore. Like whatever. And I'm interested in seeing like how far it actually goes before people take a stand. And I know there have been a lot of people that are
00:26:12
David Isaacs
mad about healthcare care costs, especially those that have needed surgery or needed visits for emergencies that they've had. And that, that one's harder to get people behind too, just because they, not too many people. There's a lot of people that have dealt with it, but there's not really enough to like get people behind it. And you still have those that are you like, Oh, well they charge You should have to pay that back. You got this. It's like. I understand the insurance companies and health care companies, and they're basically two businesses trying to make money off of each other. And insurance companies just started charging hospitals. Or or hospitals just started charging insurance companies for
00:27:07
David Isaacs
You know, $150 for a bandage or whatever the heck it is. And they just kept like pushing it and pushing it and pushing it to see how much money they could get off of them. I even heard. So I'll talk and talk about the gym here in a minute in the sauna, but there are people talking about somebody will pay you to get an MRI done at.
00:27:30
David Isaacs
their um MRI place, their MRI imaging, or people that'll pay you to go get physical therapy done at their place. And a man was saying that in a year, that person, because he knew the guy, had charged his insurance like $60,000.
00:27:49
Brian Leithead
Holy crap.
00:27:51
David Isaacs
And again, I can't verify this at all, but this is a huge problem. Insurance is a huge problem. for, and these healthcare care companies, well, let's say hospital, hospital companies and insurance, kind health insurance companies that are just charging inordinate amounts of money for these procedures and whatnot. And the only people that it's affecting are the people that are just looking to get care. And I know the companies that hold
00:28:25
David Isaacs
So after Obamacare, companies started, insurance companies started having their own like pharma, pharmaceutical holding companies. So when you go to the pharmacy and you give them that insurance, they have, you have to buy that from your insurances, like whole holding company. And they can charge you like an arm and a leg for Tylenol.
00:28:49
David Isaacs
And this is one of the things that Congress was looking at shutting down after the United Healthcare CEO got shot. But it had basically said with Obamacare that a certain percentage of what you take from these people has to go back into patient care. So the way that they could get around it and still make money was to set up their own pharmaceutical holding companies and then charge people whatever they wanted to be able to get like Tylenol or whatever drug that they had.
00:29:24
David Isaacs
And I believe there were gag orders put on pharmacies to not tell the people how much it would actually cost without insurance or to use GoodRx or what have you.
00:29:36
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Uh, yeah. Pharmacies and even doctor's offices, they have to offer cash prices. cause like I, I know that I went to urgent care and like, uh, this was probably a couple of months ago and you know, I have a $50 copay with my insurance. Um, then when you look at the billing statement, they send, you know, a $250 bill to insurance, but insurance only paid $200 of it based on their research and their competitors of you know, comparable prices.
00:30:07
Brian Leithead
but then when I actually go to urgent, when I went to an urgent care, when I was unemployed, was like, I don't have insurance. They're like, Oh, well, it's only going to be $110 for the doctor to see you.
00:30:20
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:30:21
Brian Leithead
so, you know, and then there's a, the kind of the 80 20 rule in the healthcare where it's 80% of healthcare dollars should be spent on care and quality improvement while the other 20% can be
00:30:33
Brian Leithead
spent on other costs. there's also a saying in life that that applies to that 80 20 year old, you spend 80% of your life to only have 20% of or the, the con or that's kind of like the concept of you spend it. You get 80% of your wealth in the first 20% of your life or something like that. And then in the last 20% of your life, you spend 80% of all that money on healthcare or towards your health. So.
00:31:03
Brian Leithead
healthcare healthcare ah should be a universal, right? Just like water. but unfortunately the insurance, insurance, um, healthcare care care industry, just whenever that happened with the eighties, I, you know, I don't know. I still remember my mom telling me that it costs nothing as a copay for.
00:31:27
Brian Leithead
back when she had me in 1989, that it was like $500 got built to our insurance and they didn't pay anything out of pocket. So that was 35, almost 36 years ago, March 27th, where healthcare seemed reasonable, but just somewhere in the past two or three decades that went, you know, that went away and we have to rely on insurance and having it and yet
00:31:36
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:31:57
Brian Leithead
you know, like UnitedHealthcare situation, the CEO, you know, there was what, denied to pose and deflect or whatever their saying was internally, or they have policies like that because they have to be able to make money on these, you know, because they're a nonprofit company, but they have to still be able to show a profit to their investors, or at least that they are capable of you know, gain return on investment for, for them. So, it's unfortunate, but that's, you know, something that we have to push back again, that should we as a country have, you know, a single payer system or just universal healthcare, which I actually think is the same thing. so yeah, I mean, doctors in third world country, isn't like the six figure.
00:32:55
Brian Leithead
Plus, whatever money you take, you take from all these pharmaceutical companies like it is here. know It's like how it should be as a service.
00:33:07
David Isaacs
Yeah, and kind of the same thing with the LA wildfires and that, how they just started abruptly, like, stopping people's coverages. And I know the state of California had said, like, well, if you keep somebody from having house insurance and you can't sell, like, any insurance in the state of California, and some companies, like, backed out completely, they're like, yeah, I mean,
00:33:35
David Isaacs
it it's gonna cost us a lot more to do that and there's like some back and forth about you know they warned them that with the dry season like this was going to happen but they're again I don't know how they figured it out but I feel like if you've paid into the system for however many years like for them to just take it away abruptly I don't think that's right but insurance in itself is just such a scam to begin with because I don't know what the percentages are on it. Obviously the homeowners insurance would have been nice for the people that dealt with that homeowners insurance in Florida which it costs like so much money.
00:34:25
David Isaacs
so it's either they take it away completely or they're gonna charge you an arm and leg if you're in my hurricane alley or whatever it is, but
00:34:35
Brian Leithead
it's based on, uh, you need flood insurance based on the flood zone. That's, uh, defined by FEMA. So,
00:34:45
Brian Leithead
there always seem to be people in Florida, really on the East coast. Um, cause I used to do mortgages. People always kind of seem surprised, especially being first time home buyers that they had to get flood insurance. then the other thing was,
00:35:02
Brian Leithead
kind of arguing or pushing back against FEMA that the home is in the flood zone or not. Because places like Connecticut or Delaware, they're kind of um on the coast or Maryland, gets kind of sketchy where the actual flood zone is defined. And sometimes local municipalities will have different definitions of it, but it's whatever FEMA
00:35:28
Brian Leithead
defines that particular flood area at. But yeah, it does cost a lot of money to have homeowners insurance in certain areas and that kind of sucks.
00:35:57
David Isaacs
It started off as like one idea and then it kind of snowballed in. So we're kind of at where we're at today because of 10 different decisions. And with inflation in general, it just comes down to greed. And with a universal health care system or something like that, like the current costs that go into insurance is mostly administrative costs as well.
00:36:25
David Isaacs
And they're the ones determining whether or not you need an MRI. So like, how are they the ones determining if you need an MRI? Well, you don't need an What you need is this. Go get this first. Like they're just making these decisions for people. And yeah, I mean, sure. It helps them out in certain ways. And maybe sometimes somebody really doesn't need an MRI, but how are we having it so that
00:36:52
David Isaacs
They're determining whether or not it's something that you need if your doctor had ordered it. And I get like we, the costs that go into these things help on research and like that's great but healthcare a business. And that's what they're worried about first and foremost like They're trying to get these drugs past FDA approval to be able to sell them on the market for however long the trademark lasts for, which is probably like 10 years or something. And in that time, and all the money that they've invested, they're going to charge an arm and a leg for that specific medication.
00:37:29
David Isaacs
the business side of insurance, pharmaceutical companies and everything else. It's like most people kind of have a general understanding now. and and Growing up I had anxiety. I had really bad anxiety and it took them so long to be able to figure out it was just anxiety. Luckily I was able to go through a bunch of different tests to make sure it wasn't anything too serious. But yeah, a lot of people hear stories all the time. They're disregarded, they're judged for maybe being overweight, or maybe they have a history of just being anxious and they're not getting the tests done that they want to get done. The insurance company won't pay for it, the doctor won't order it or whatever, and they end up having like huge problem.
00:38:15
David Isaacs
I don't know what the, I don't know what the solution is really kind of fix all this stuff, but it is and it is a huge issue. It's continued to ravage the savings of people when they get into an accident or they have a surgery and insurance isn't going to cover some of it even though they said they were and like all this stuff that is back and forth. So I don't think it's radical to think that anybody in the richest country in the world uh should have to worry about a hospital bill or being able to pay for their next prescription or whatever else like i am i'm glad if we figure out some sort of system and maybe not even like having it tied to employment necessarily because they have the power to give you a shitty insurance plan like my insurance plan is a shitty insurance plan
00:40:01
David Isaacs
um,
00:40:03
David Isaacs
Like really trying to be cognizant of because yeah, not only making sure that I'm healthy, but so that when I reached my forties and my fifties, I'm not on dialysis because I drank too much or, um, um, heart medication or whatever else.
00:40:21
Brian Leithead
or Alzheimer's that comes eventually with heavy drinking as well as Parkinson's.
00:40:29
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:40:31
Brian Leithead
But yeah, to your point, even long-term effects like things that especially wear out like your heart. So you could potentially have a heart attack. Yeah, like drinking and just being healthier overall, you know, the state, the obvious is just way better for you in a lot of regards, you know, mentally, physically, financially. So, yeah, I'm, uh, kind of transitioned towards our, you know, keeping up on our goals. You know, I was down 10 pounds last week. Well, uh,
00:41:07
Brian Leithead
I kind of play a toad this week because I had a you couple of extra helpings of tortilla chips, so I didn't lose any weight. I didn't gain any weight, but it was not a good week towards my weight goal, that's for sure.
00:41:26
David Isaacs
Yeah, that's good. I think I think like the biggest thing is just.
00:41:35
David Isaacs
Starting to and I've seen articles about this too, which is like starting to think about it. So that it's not automatic, you don't just go and. you know like a zombie and go to the kitchen cabinet and grab something and or you know you're drunk or you're high or sleepy or whatever else that you just go so really just like coming down to ah ah thinking about it so what I know it's helpful it was at least helpful for me and I got lazy about it but tracking my calories and doing that stuff is because
00:42:08
David Isaacs
You start to realize how much that you do eat and you're at least cognizant of when you are eating. And when you finished eating that you're like, okay, well that was out of the normal for where I'm at or I'm currently at or where I want to be. So yeah, I mean like the slip ups and whatnot are going to happen, right?
00:42:27
Brian Leithead
Yeah, absolutely. Um, especially when you're kind of tired, didn't really have yet a long day. Uh, so you're kind of already out of your routine anyway, not to make an excuse. and you had to put your kid down. you know, again, won't make an excuse for talking out to just a parent, but you know, we, I took my sons in the aquarium. well, cause my wife is.
00:42:55
Brian Leithead
She owns a restaurant such that she's been running that, working overtime, baking too as an extra source of income. I've been stepping up with my son, taking him to aquarium, then after we went to Costco and got him a hot dog. And then I didn't really have anything because I was just kind of focused on him and having a great day, making sure everything was perfect.
00:43:20
Brian Leithead
I didn't feel like making anything. So I just grabbed a artichoke and spinach dip out of our fridge. And then I went to town with it with a, uh, some, some, uh, some Aldi brand tortilla chips.
00:43:36
David Isaacs
Yeah Well, it's them and that's the thing right as long as you don't spiral down and I think at least for me the
00:43:39
Brian Leithead
Happens. But, you know, uh, I've made sure for this week I made a meal prepped, always with my calorie limit. So.
00:43:50
Brian Leithead
We're good to go. We're back on the horse. This fat horse.
00:43:55
David Isaacs
long and You get to a point where you just like you're not even willing to think about it anymore About like what you're eating or trying to eat better or whatnot. So Yeah, like keeping in your mind like yeah, that wasn't That wasn't really what i'm trying to be but yeah getting back up on the horse like don't Don't fail twice in a row or something or if you have a goal like maybe cheat days on the weekends and you know really strict eating during the week, but
00:44:26
David Isaacs
Yeah, I think like nutrition is hard for a lot of people. And like I've said before, like me eating better is harder because I eat more often to be able to keep myself energized and fed to the point where I don't just get so hungry and I'm working and I just door dash something like I have to set up overnight oats at night or wake up early to cook eggs in the morning or during lunch I know I'm going to have to commit some of my lunch time to cooking and cleaning up after myself and what have you.
00:45:08
David Isaacs
eating better but depending on your eating habits before like that is easier to open up the chip dip open up the bag of chips go to town and you just put them both away and have to worry about doing dishes or cooking or cleanup or whatnot but yeah I am nothing it's it's good like I said I mean like just being honest and understanding like Yeah, that wasn't, that was uncharacteristic of me where I want to be what I want to do and yeah, just keep working at it.
Lifestyle Choices and Mental Health
00:45:42
Brian Leithead
Yeah, absolutely. um And kind of just like going back to your point from earlier on, or to tie your to your point from earlier of just the convenience. If we go with extra steps to, you know, start gardening or, you know, sourcing our own food, know, if like,
00:46:02
Brian Leithead
So I know a lot of municipalities around, or a lot of cities, I know it's kind of fancy mortgage talk, but a lot of cities around us are allowing like you to have chickens and you can have like a chicken coop. Like I know in the city of Berkeley, it's like, I think it's like ah ah five total people can have it within city limits. But like I just bought from a coworker today, I actually just bought,
00:46:30
Brian Leithead
a dozen eggs from her for $3, which is like 1 15th of what eggs cost in a grocery store right now. It feels like so. but going out of our weights for the convenient to do the inconvenient thing will be more convenient in the long run. That 80% will pay off for the 20%. Like I was talking about earlier.
00:46:56
Brian Leithead
putting that 80, we'll say, you know, to match the ah ah pattern of, you know, we're going to spend 80% more effort into this. So you don't have these long-term health issues and and it keeps your health care costs and your insurance down because you're a healthier person and you don't need to go see a podiatrist, you know, to get some gross ingrown toenail or whatever. You don't have to do that.
00:47:24
Brian Leithead
Or you do that less frequently, I should say.
00:47:27
David Isaacs
Yeah. I mean, even if I wasn't doing healthy things, I think I would just stay away from the hospital as much as possible anyways. So like I, or just the doctors in general. Cause I, yeah, I mean, I do donate blood.
00:47:41
David Isaacs
two or three times a year, I can order my own blood test and read it. It's not like I need a doctor to tell me because you open it up. and It's like, this is high. This is low. Like, you know, if there's a time where something's high, something's low and you might want them to interpret it to be to say like, oh, well, it must you might have an issue with this. Let's test and make sure that's not the issue. Or, you know, it might just be you might need a supplement on whatever that you have is low.
00:48:10
David Isaacs
but yeah, I mean, outside of a physical each year, like I don't really, I try to stay away from doctors as much as possible. And for some people that's not about being healthy and feeling like you don't have to go to the doctors. I mean, I know a ton of people that just never go to the doctor and they're about as unhealthy as a fat cat, like, you know.
00:48:31
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Uh, I'm definitely that fat cat right now. Uh, try not to be, but, uh, yeah, I mean, I'm kind of one of those people sometimes I, I haven't really been to the doctor regularly and a while. Um, I'm just been starting to go recently and woo boy, that's an eye opener. So.
00:48:51
Brian Leithead
I think that's what people are afraid of in that, like that mindset of, Oh, they're just going to tell me bad news. Why should I go? I'll only go when I feel like really feel like I need it. So,
00:49:05
Brian Leithead
I guess knowing yourself is the best practice in that, but, everyone's kind of different. Everyone was raised different. So, uh, you know,
00:49:17
Brian Leithead
A lot of people are in a camp of I need to go every year to get a physical at least get blood work and all that. So, you know, different st strokes for different folks, I guess.
00:49:29
David Isaacs
What would be an interesting case study to figure out, because you always had the, uh, the other people that had like the worrying parents, like they can stay the night anywhere. They couldn't be out for too long. They, uh, always had to call home and like check in like constantly. And probably the same people that anytime they were sick or whatever, like their parents took them to the hospital or the doctor, like right away, just to make sure like they're okay and got them on medication right away and whatnot.
00:49:58
David Isaacs
as compared to what most other parents are like, you're fine, which was kind of close to what my what my parents were growing up and probably what a lot of people's parents were growing up because they didn't want to have to pay for you to go to the doctor unless you were literally on death's door. So it would be interesting to see like if we took those two camps of people and seen like, you know, maybe how often they go to the doctor now, or maybe just like their general bill of health too.
00:50:34
Brian Leithead
Yeah, uh, growing up, I was kind of like how my parents were. They were definitely the, uh, we're going to take you to the doctor now. you have a slight cough. So, I have in my, my adult life, I haven't gone as much as I should. You know, I'll do like the yearly physical physical, even though it's been prior to getting my most recent one, I had been a couple of years. so I'm definitely trying to turn it around. especially having.
00:51:02
Brian Leithead
And it's just my excuse for, I feel like everything now, but you know, it's having a kid. So I want to be around as long as possible. You know, I don't, I don't necessarily, I don't want to like outlive my kid, but, know, I want to be there for him to be an adult and, you know, possibly have grandkids. So, but for the president, I just want to be healthier so I can chase him around the park and not,
00:51:26
Brian Leithead
lose breath as quickly as I do, which feels like as soon as I start running.
00:51:34
David Isaacs
Yeah, I mean cardio is just tough for anybody, or for most people at least, especially not having done it in so long. So it's really hard to really understand like where to start.
00:51:47
David Isaacs
I don't know, I'm dealing with my own mental blocks like at the gym with not wanting to lift more weights to start to worry about if I hurt myself because I know how my mood's been affected since being sick, not being able to go to the gym for about a week until this morning. So, I mean, there's a lot that goes into kind of like the decisions you make every day, because I don't know how many thousands of decisions we make every day, but a lot of them are like pretty automatic too. But yeah, I mean, definitely trying to be around and trying to be fit, you know,
00:52:16
David Isaacs
Nobody wants to be 40 or 50 years old and having to take care of one of their parents because they neglected their health for however long. So yeah I mean it's good that you're like thinking about those things and me being an uncle kind of thinking about those things as well so then it starts to be like why did a better job I gotta be able to do this or that or you know help them out when they need to maybe coach soccer team or what have you so as far as my goal for February I did buy a walking pad for
00:52:53
David Isaacs
ah standing desk so I've had the goal for anytime i at my personal computer or when I'm working from home to either be standing or walking throughout the day so I've been doing this for about a week anywhere from one to three hours walking trying to track my steps a little bit better I don't think I'll be able to get to 10,000 steps a day and I was trying to get two birds stoned at once because I have a trying to stop watching pornography.
00:53:29
David Isaacs
But instead, yeah, it's the convenience.
00:53:31
Brian Leithead
It's convenience, that's what it is.
00:53:34
David Isaacs
And that's the whole basis for the whole arguments of anything else. But there have been a couple of times I've just done a good old standing jerk.
00:53:44
Brian Leithead
Okay.
00:53:45
David Isaacs
I don't I don't have I don't have the numbers to say that i'm doing it less often than I had before but at least now like I'm getting a little bit more exercise when doing it so Yeah,
00:53:56
Brian Leithead
Multi and your multitask and see you're working your brain. It's a little left brain right brain action. I like it it Oh No
00:54:02
David Isaacs
yeah I don't need any more mental gymnastics to talk myself into it because I put in like a I put in a like safe search filter on my phone for like no adult content and I meant because you have to put it in I put it in with just like close my eyes and did it randomly we have to do it twice so somehow I managed to do it twice without looking at it So, luckily it's off my phone. My whole phone's in grayscale to keep me from looking at it too much, too. Which hasn't helped very much recently. I've been watching too much TikTok, but... Yeah, the whole thing with the computer is... I guess I could do it for the computer, too. But I'd have to look and see. Like, I don't... I want, like...
00:54:49
David Isaacs
saucy uh stories about something like i feel like i can get away with that i don't know if i can jerk off to that but yeah no like pornography has been i mean i had a treasure trove of my ipod touch when i was like 13 so i it's been ingrained in me for so long and my generation kind of like had grown up with it so as much as i can just try to get rid of it because There's a lot of, there's a lot of issues that I have with pornography industry in general.
00:55:25
David Isaacs
Yeah, just yeah. So we're getting to that point, but the quick hits of dopamine are things that I need to cut down on. And that's like the biggest source of them.
00:55:36
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I mean, if you want to cut down on your drinking off, maybe try doing it backwards on the treadmill. Because if your God will make you want to like climax and then it won't be the same next time. Maybe try that.
00:55:49
David Isaacs
Well, I don't stand on the treadmill while I'm doing it, but it's getting to a point where I'm like over here and having like contour like this way.
00:55:59
Brian Leithead
ah Are you like on the treadmill with like one leg like you're trying to kick start a bike?
00:56:04
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:56:05
Brian Leithead
Nice.
00:56:05
David Isaacs
It's like dogs that they're trying to get to exercise and they just put like one ball on. They're doing it. That's basically me. But yeah, I mean, it's a problem and it has been for so long, but it's so ingrained into my brain that it just kind of happens so luckily we're gonna think about it more often I don't want to put it I want to put a sticky note on my monitor to say like stop a horn or whatever but we'll yeah I mean that
00:56:36
Brian Leithead
Sticking out on her sticky desk from watching porn use center.
00:56:42
David Isaacs
Maybe if they could like actually find out if your relatives like are watching you and prove that in like dead ancestors watching me contour my body around my walking pad so I can still see the porn is whatever.
00:56:49
Brian Leithead
Her dead ancestors.
00:57:02
David Isaacs
So if they can like prove that's actually happening, I think we can cut down on this by like 99% across
00:57:07
Brian Leithead
Oh yeah. Yeah. No, I don't want no one to finding out that I, I jerk it just to fall asleep. That makes me not want to do it at all.
00:57:18
David Isaacs
Yeah, I don't know. like Anyways, not to... Not to keep peeling back these layers.
00:57:23
Brian Leithead
It's fine.
00:57:26
David Isaacs
Yeah, I was hoping it could be helpful in that, you know, I get more exercise, get my steps in. But I've just been like the adjustment. I've just been so tired. And I think that's another one of like the mental block things that my body is just convincing me that I'm tired because it doesn't want to walk anymore.
00:57:45
David Isaacs
So that's trying to get past that has been tough. But I've been you know rotating around different like things to just try to do stuff more healthily and yeah sitting down is definitely one of the ones that it's just so easy for me to just like sit down and let time go by not doing anything so hopefully this is a good medium to make sure I get like some steps in during the day it's not really exercise I don't think well it's more exercise than sitting down so
00:58:22
David Isaacs
We're just going to keep working at it. And that's pretty much my goal this month. So anytime working from home or just on my PC, you need to be standing or walking.
00:58:35
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I think, uh, I think you want to follow in your footsteps literally and figuratively and get one of those. I get that self because my, my birthday's coming up. So last year I bought myself a really expensive monitor, uh, which, uh, didn't really.
00:58:54
Brian Leithead
do anything except give me a somewhat of a short dopamine rush, but I think I'm actually going to make that walking pad purchase for when I work at home and obviously on the weekends.
00:59:07
David Isaacs
Yeah, it's good. I've noticed so I've kind of got like my elbows on the desk here. And then I have like a little memory foam pad. So I set my wrist on when I type. But sometimes I can, if I need a break a little bit, because I didn't realize this, but you hear about like people that could run like long distances, but they get on the treadmill and they can't run very far.
00:59:32
David Isaacs
because our pace is at a variable when we can control it more on the ground, whereas a treadmill makes you run that constant speed forever. So when I get tired with walking or whatnot, I just use, put like little bit of my weight down on here to compensate for that while still going. But yeah, my brain, every time I'm like, I'll start it up, and I'm just working here, and I'm like, oh, I'm thirsty.
00:59:58
David Isaacs
Pause it, gotta go get a drink, come back, turn it back on. Oh, I need to grab my phone to sign in to Ford token and turn it off. fact there's a lot of stopping and going, but yeah, I'm hopeful that I can just kind of get it into a habit because I had going to the gym as I have it.
01:00:19
David Isaacs
figured out and then I started taking my duffel bag in the house and unpacking everything because I would shower there so I'd have wet clothes that have sweaty clothes so I would come in basements where the laundry room is so Then I would hang up the wet stuff and then take the ah sweaty stuff out of the bag and then have it set up down there. So the next time I would come down, I would pack everything, well, pack up the the wets, like the shower caddy thing that's like mesh.
01:00:53
David Isaacs
and my flip flops and I would pack those in and get, you know, clean towels and clean clothes to put in there for the next time I go. So that's been like a good compounding habit to have. So I'm trying to look for other ways to be able to do that too. It's like, all right, I get up, log in, walk for at least 30 minutes. And then throughout the rest of the day, it can be variable, but like get my water, get my coffee,
01:01:22
David Isaacs
go to the bathroom, do like whatever I need to do before I get on this for 30 minutes. And then that first 30 minutes, just get through it. And then throughout the day, I can kind of like switch it on and off.
01:01:37
Brian Leithead
Yeah, I like it. It definitely shows that when you get into the routine, you make the best of it.
01:01:45
David Isaacs
I try to, but, you know, I a wave of depression that started two or three days ago. With exercise it's supposed to help, but some days you feel like you're not doing enough for things that you wish you would have worked on earlier on in your life.
01:02:06
David Isaacs
the ah ah things that you do that are just bad throughout the day and even as you're fixing one habit you might fall into a different habit like i've been drinking diet cokes um the last few days and even though i've been like walking more then that starts to become like crushed even though i've started drinking less and then you start to look and compare like well
01:02:31
David Isaacs
maybe it's not as bad as what I was doing there or maybe it is or like how can I really justify or quantify like how much better this is compared for how much worse this is when you're kind of feeding into better habits and then also worse habits and yeah I mean it's it's really gotten to me but I think the uh just keep telling myself you know if i get up the next day and work in this job and don't get paid very much for it paid in thanks which are uh...
01:03:03
David Isaacs
denominations of u.s. currency so i can't use those for anything apparently uh...
01:03:09
David Isaacs
my real estate agent was surprised when i tried to pay for thanks uh... for the down payment on this house i wanted Yeah, it's what I've dealt with, depression, anxiety since I've been like 16.
01:03:23
David Isaacs
And sometimes, you know, you just get that wave that kind of hits you, overtakes you, at least I do. I know there's probably different classifications when it comes to depression, but yeah, just trying to, just trying to keep your head above water until it passes is kind of tough.
01:03:32
Brian Leithead
Can't even wipe your butt with it.
01:03:43
David Isaacs
And then get back into it.
01:03:47
Brian Leithead
Yeah. I had a similar, uh, kind of experience last couple of days. as my wife's just been kind of, has been gone.
01:03:58
Brian Leithead
you know, we're in a tough, not real tough, but not great financial situation right now. she has had to take on a little bit more, you know, cupcake or, or
01:04:07
David Isaacs
Just keep working.
01:04:14
Brian Leithead
baking jobs and she probably would normally want to but she's going on vacation at the end of the month so she needs you know money but you know not being able to see her on a regular basis and you know having to step up more with my son not that that should be like a reason to step up you know it's been it's been tough and I Felt like I was just kind of like screwing up at work like just you know a lot of things are are Automated so I probably shouldn't be missing certain things and I just like Wasn't getting simple concept sounds that they probably i should should have had earlier but You know and just feel like I'm feeling friends and family all the time You know like my brother and sister I was watching a slow-motion argument between my brother and older brother and older sister and be a text over something stupid. So, you know, just all that said, I took my son to the aquarium and just kind of watched his face light up and it made me think, not think about emails, about stress, about sibling arguments.
01:05:25
Brian Leithead
And so I think just kind of like, for me, I I i overthink a lot. I kind of do think that I make a right decision, but then was I stubborn or or about it? Was I not open to, you know, not as open to changes I should have been. you know, then I started up second guessing myself and then kind of spirals into from there, but, I didn't care about anything else when he was watching like a shark or
01:05:54
Brian Leithead
stingray kind of like come up to the glass so I hope everyone finds their aquarium moment where they just kind of get the clarity of sometimes just keeping it simple and not overthinking things be you know better for you and your mental health but you know that's not an easy task to do so I but that's something that I've been also working on lately too. Just forgiving myself and just keeping it simple.
01:06:27
David Isaacs
Yeah. Somebody talked about it before, like being able to see the world through your son's eyes and the innocence or the new experiences that you get that he has that you get to share with him. That's kind of been an escape for you mentally. And yeah, I think even when I was going to touch on with like this wave of a depression that had hit me because I had gotten sick. I mean, you can add in the seasonal depression or Just kind of the change in what I'm doing each day, so bodies like set up to deal with routines relatively easily and then you kind of throw a wrench in that and things can kind of get out of whack so it sounds like we've both been dealing with that just to change your routines and then
01:07:10
David Isaacs
trying to figure out like right away on how you can kind of best deal with that like once you realize like maybe if you are missing some things at work maybe you do have to focus harder on writing things down which is this is not me talking to you but things that I thought about but I also hate my company so it kind of goes against like I don't want to be more productive but some things that I've thought about like you know I'm not I'm not my best today at the gym but what what's worth more to me and this is what I dealt with today like it's worth more to me that if I can hit
01:07:48
David Isaacs
all these machines that I planned on hitting, I'll just do less weight. Like I want to feel like I've done everything that I could in the spots that I wanted to hit. I'm going to make sure that even if I can't do 20 minutes on the treadmill, I'm going to do 10. I would get my my other stuff done. You know, I don't need to expand on this anymore than I already have. But that's that's one one thing I've done. And it's easier because you're already there and you know you're talking yourself into doing less work essentially whereas other cases of you know other things that you would do maybe at work or if you're hanging out with your son or maybe around the house be like oh you know well I'm gonna do the dishes or I'm gonna do laundry or I'm gonna do this with my son like that might be a little bit harder but just like
01:08:41
David Isaacs
Things that I thought about like, okay, if I don't have the best mental day at work, like what are the absolute things that I need to get done? And I'm going to focus on those. And then once I get those done, like if I can push it to another day, then I'll push it. If not, you know, just kind of see how I feel at the end of it. but yeah, I get where you're coming from too, with work or, uh, friends or anything else, like.
01:09:34
David Isaacs
um,
01:09:37
David Isaacs
you know if you know your character and kind of how you are ninety nine percent of the time I fall into it a lot with maybe saying something I shouldn't have like maybe a joke didn't land the right way or what have you but a lot of times overthinking it's like stressing yourself out about it twice because you like try to talk to people and they're like Oh, I mean, I didn't even think anything by that, you know, but at least in your mind. So even like recounting that situation, you can at least show like, Hey, you know, I care about this. You mean this to me enough that, you know, I thought about this and I just wanted to make sure like, um, you know, this isn't, uh, I didn't mean it that way or, you know, I was just joking around. Hope, you know, this is working out or what have you.
01:10:31
Brian Leithead
Yeah. yeah, we were actually talking about at work today, like,
01:10:40
Brian Leithead
she was saying that this, this, uh, one more marketing people was saying that she doesn't want to get married until she's at least 30. cause the statistically the rate for success of divorcing or success, uh, success of the marriage.
01:10:57
Brian Leithead
Increases if you get married like later in life, so she's saying she wanted to wait till she's at least 30 To get married even though she's been in a relationship committed
Relationships and Personal Growth
01:11:07
Brian Leithead
relationship with her her partner For like well over three years She doesn't want to get married until she's 30 just for that reason I you know I guess along that same lines of I mean, I guess that's, you know, a way of looking at it. but then like, I don't know. I guess I was just like, I get married at 31 almost 30. I just turned 30. And so I guess my marriage is going to be successful, but I don't know. I'm kind of chucking it up to the ah numbers like that from that perspective, just didn't make a lot of sense to me, but,
01:11:49
Brian Leithead
I guess looking at it from that one dimension, she's happier. So the point of not overthinking it, I guess, go for it. She's committed to it, not second guessing herself and sick into a goal.
01:12:05
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah, man, that's that's good. Like I I keep catching myself like trying to somebody posted about the Taco Bell chicken and like 72 grams of protein for 10 pieces.
01:12:17
David Isaacs
And my first thought is like, there's absolutely no way that's possible. But I just I just let it go. I just just let it go.
01:12:27
Brian Leithead
Yeah.
01:12:28
David Isaacs
There's a lot of things, you know, you just let it go.
01:12:29
Brian Leithead
Yep.
01:12:30
David Isaacs
And especially when it comes to like talking about people like, yeah, I mean, we can sit here and we can talk about like the context of whatever studies that people have found out about that. And I'll tell you, like, there are a lot of single 30 year olds, I'll be 30 in May, like, you know, we're all fucked up in the head. So maybe it's.
01:12:48
David Isaacs
maybe there's something else that's going on that's causing these issues for getting married younger, but especially now in today's age, like social media, trying to keep up with the Joneses and trying to you stay happy and whatnot, like if there are It's all context, like if you have issues in your relationship now that you're not working on, you're not trying to come to a compromise with or what have you, like you're not gonna have a successful marriage, not if the relationship itself isn't successful. So I think it kind of comes down more to that. And I watched like a lot of these, I forget the guy's name, but he's doing like these financial audits for people that are basically like telling them like,
01:13:31
David Isaacs
you know you wouldn't uh you need to do this you need to do that and they had a lady that had like blew through like 250 000 and she's like well i could have had more and he's like well i'm glad you didn't because you would have blown through it and she's like no i think i would have kept it and like what do you mean you you spent 250 000 what's you would have spent 300 000 like that's it would have been easy to spend an extra amount of money so I think it's kind of the same thing with relationships in regards to talking to my friend about it today is kind of the same thing I said like you know sometimes we're the reason why we're single at at this age and trying to get together and like figure these things out but
01:14:10
David Isaacs
We know how tough it is just trying to be cognizant of being healthy in regards to like exercising, getting enough sleep, eating healthy. Like you add the relationship part on top of it and trying to communicate more, trying to be a better partner, understanding someone's feelings about certain things or just listening in general, which I think is a is a skill that's lost on lot of people I need to work on it a lot more honestly but yeah so did you did you say something is that why you brought this up that might have been uncouth or
01:14:54
Brian Leithead
Uh, no, it was just kind of just popped in my head and kind of just went with it. Didn't really add anything. If anything, it kind of subtracted to our, uh, you know, our topic, but I don't know, just came up today.
01:15:07
Brian Leithead
It's fresh on my mind. So, mean, I did say, I didn't necessarily say something uncool.
01:15:13
Brian Leithead
I just kind of said, you know, I got married and it was a single biggest pain in the ass. because pain in my ass so don't do it and then everyone kind of looked at me and I was like just kidding that was a test you all failed as you're supposed to say oh Brian don't you mean it was the best decision ever man and then I go yeah so that was that was it yeah yeah it was uh kind of like they weren't like looking at me like I just killed somebody in front of them but it was there was definitely a look to it and I didn't really appreciate it but
01:15:36
David Isaacs
save.
01:15:48
Brian Leithead
You know turn it I did turn it around so it's all good
01:15:52
David Isaacs
Nice. Yeah. I don't know. Marriage to me has never really seen like that big of a deal, but I have, uh, I had friends that I, I mean, I've been in so many weddings and invited to so many weddings and sometimes you kind of just know that's where it's, it's going. And, but they all kind of say the same thing, depending on how much time and effort you put into it, just the financial burden it puts on people is like crazy. And, uh,
01:16:21
David Isaacs
I don't like the transition period can be tough for some couples too because they finally like made that next step like that commitment like a financial commitment and a celebration with all your friends and family to celebrate that commitment and your love. And it kind of gets to that point and freaks people out a little bit. So I do know of some divorces from people like I went to high school with. But other than that, like, yeah, I mean, I just hope people found it enjoyable, that they're happy now because of it. But the outside looking at it, I mean, you never really know.
01:17:00
David Isaacs
like if people are happy in their marriage or are working on things or what have you but yeah I mean I truly hope the best for everybody and a happy long marriage yay
01:17:17
Brian Leithead
Yeah. I speak for my experience when marriage isn't easy. I mean, relationships in general, and you're kind of talking about just social, uh, you know, socializing is, is tough. There's so many different, you know, feelings and, and sides of stories. and even if you read somebody on a particular topic,
01:17:41
Brian Leithead
and you press on it and then you go, oh, wow, I didn't, like, I thought you were gonna, you know, vibe with that. And I don't just, you know, and the most basic form, you know, just relationships are tough. So with marriage, yeah, I mean, now we gotta get the government involved. So, but it's just kind of like any other relationship really of there's two people trying to make something work that you're not gonna agree on.
01:18:08
Brian Leithead
everything a hundred percent, but it's just come into a compromise. putting in the time and effort, putting in that 80% more, you know, that's something that I've worked on in the past year because again, I know our listeners and around the world are probably sick of hearing me talk about my drinking problem, but, you know, when I was drinking, I may have seemed happier, but it was also more emotional and,
01:18:37
Brian Leithead
more easily exposed to depression because alcohol increases your Chances to go back go even deeper into your depression. So But yeah relationships are tough but if you're willing to work on it just like anything else putting in the time and the ethic into it Make your life easier, but also improve your partner, you know grow it together.
01:19:04
David Isaacs
Yeah, I think that's what it's all about, right? It's the old ball and chain.
01:19:12
Brian Leithead
Exactly.
01:19:13
David Isaacs
It's not how it's supposed to be.
01:19:15
David Isaacs
It's learning and growing together. It's supposed to be your best friend, someone that you can tell anything to that's willing to listen to. you know, whatever you have to say, and then, you know, comes to children or whatever, rain and and having somebody that kind of has not only both of your DNAs, but has different personalities that they've developed because of you and whatnot. I think i think something that remains to be true to say,
01:19:53
David Isaacs
it's kind of good to tell people like yeah I know you have this if they're like really excited to get married or they finally want to get married or they want some their boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever to propose to them like There's definitely worth something to let them know like hey, you know, it it is, it's a big commitment it takes a lot it's a lot of money it's a lot of your time to do these things so like just make sure you're ready like I think that is worth something but it also depends on how it kind of how you deliver that to.
01:20:25
David Isaacs
So yeah, like jokingly or like depending on how people know you I think when you can be a little bit more endearing Because if you say something people are going to take it a certain way As opposed to you know, somebody knew that was just part of the conversation, you know trying to be the devil's advocate or something
01:20:48
Brian Leithead
Yeah, it's always good to pay attention of whether you being double as advocate is yeah beneficial in that scenario. Sometimes it might feel like Pylon, but yeah,
01:21:04
Brian Leithead
relationships are a funny thing.
01:21:08
David Isaacs
there are yeah definitely worth it if you can make them work the the hopefully the good times outweigh the bad but a lot of those conversations that I feel like I didn't have a lot of those difficult conversations that try to avoid the most important ones to have and tough times that you go through and trying to find a way to get through them because, yeah, I mean, we're creatures that like routines and adding another person. I mean, that's just another variable. So it kind of depends. Moneyball, adapt or die.
01:21:53
David Isaacs
that's the whole thing with life and if you're able to make these commitments with the right people and for the right reasons they can be very beneficial for both parties but it's not not to say that it doesn't take a whole lot of work to make these things work but yeah a lot of people don't see that like how you're saying with your Alcoholism, you know, they just see you as oh, it's fun Brian fun.
01:22:18
David Isaacs
Happy Brian Not that you having to deal with you the next day when you're hungover whatever else or shit
01:22:20
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Hit.
01:22:29
Brian Leithead
Yeah. so what, uh, I don't want to move on to underrated pieces of media that you suggest or ah you've watched recently or read recently.
01:22:42
David Isaacs
Yeah, well I'm currently reading Mistborn, the first book in the Mistborn, like, seven books that Sanderson's written. He's written, I don't know, like 22 books over 15 years. That guy's a machine. But Mistborn's been pretty good.
01:23:00
David Isaacs
kind of like epic fantasy power systems around metal so there's these people that are called Mistborn and they have the ability to like burn metal you ingest like these specific kinds of metal and you're able to do certain things with them so like one metal makes you stronger one metal like heightens your senses yada yada um so i haven't made it too far in that book but it's been pretty good a lot of people that like epic fantasy like that series and he has a different series too that's also highly rated so i've just been working through that as far as a movie they did put dread on max that i watched today
01:23:46
David Isaacs
and I know we had recommended it before but I rewatch it and it is it's one of those movies that it lacks so much in certain areas like with dialogue But it makes up for it a lot with visuals and action. And it somewhat exists in a niche place where it's unlike any movie that you've seen before. But you kind of have to go in with an open mind to be able to watch it. And for this week, I wanted to talk about Moon.
01:24:17
David Isaacs
Moon is a Sam Rockwell film directed by Duncan Jones, who Duncan Jones also did source code, and he did the Warcraft movie, which the Warcraft movie kind of killed his career. But Moon is very good if you like sci-fi, you like kind of like One man show type because it follows Sam Rockwell who is on the move for on the moon for a specific mission and he's There by himself and he has this family back home
01:24:52
David Isaacs
He's trying to get back to and he only has like a certain amount of time that is left on the moon Until he can return to his family, but there's a twist and it's really just him most of the movie and It's another one of those movies specifically like dread where it's in a niche that it's unlike any other Movie really it follows the same themes of some sci-fi movies but to really get that invested in like one person and the character he plays is just so great. They really become like invested in his journey even though there's not really much going on. So that's something I highly recommend. It's a very underrated movie but very highly rated by people that have seen it and it's another one of those that has kind of flown under the radar.
01:25:47
Brian Leithead
Nice. I haven't watched that, but I will definitely check that out this week. I wanted to revisit Dred. I haven't seen it in a long time. It's like I was talking about it last week and this week. Now that it's on Max, I'll actually check it out. So Carl Urban is such an underrated actor, like character actor specifically. You know, because he gets a lot of uh, recognition for obviously like Lord of the Rings and, and, uh, being a butcher from the boys. Uh, but I mean, he played a really great bones and Star Trek, uh, dried, he was good in, you know, he kinda like, I think we talked about this before. I can't remember if we talked about it on the podcast or not, but you know, just, he didn't say, he didn't have a lot of lines in that, but just like his kind of facial cues and, you know,
01:26:38
Brian Leithead
Great editing like he didn't really need to say much just kind of have his presence fault So I think that was just you know him as an actor to his ability to do that He's also on one of the assassins in a born movie, so you know And you know if you're as old as I am he was also I think like a either a stunt cordon or an actor and Xena warrior princess because I was filming in New Zealand and he's he's from there. So That was Yeah, he's one of my favorite actors But I also like Sam Rockwell, so I'll also check out moon too. So this some both sound like great movie recommendations.
01:27:22
David Isaacs
Yes, Sam Rockwell to me. I think he's one of those people that directors just like working with Because he has been in so many things but in some capacity over the years and Yeah, I mean he's he always brings it he's plays his character very well especially in this film where kind of test his chops out quite a bit because it's just him so a lot of it's like
01:27:32
Brian Leithead
I
01:27:49
David Isaacs
whatever emotional responses to his environment, his mission, and things. Or, you know, kind of in the room by himself, acting things out.
01:28:00
David Isaacs
You know, he doesn't have, he's not playing off of anybody else. So yeah, I'd highly recommend that. And Carl Urban is also in Thor Ragnarok.
01:28:11
Brian Leithead
Yeah.
01:28:13
David Isaacs
Most people recognize him in that because his head is shaved, but
01:28:16
Brian Leithead
Yeah.
01:28:18
David Isaacs
He's also pretty good in that. Like, yeah, Carl Urban's been around for a long time and, uh, yeah, luckily he's finally starting to get like the main character, uh, recognition for Butcher and the Boys.
01:28:31
David Isaacs
unfortunately just a TV so series, series, but pretty good TV series at that. And yeah, I mean, I agree with his facial expressions and cues.
01:28:40
Brian Leithead
Yeah.
01:28:42
David Isaacs
in the movie because you only see like this part of his face like mustache and down. But he and don't think it really showed too much of his acting range. There were some scenes that it kind of did. So I guess it's hard. Maybe like one of those things where you have to really pay attention to like how your mouth looks.
01:29:06
David Isaacs
if you're like shoveled
01:29:16
Brian Leithead
Yeah, it was kind of like a throwback to like the old like Clint Eastwood movies or just like those old like silent hero type films from like the 60s and 70s. You know where they might say a line or two or like even like the Mandalorian and like the early like first season or two. just like those old westerns of where the Gunslinger would come in, shoot a couple guys and then leave, kind of throw back to that. So maybe it was part of his, maybe it wasn't part of his, you know, research for the roller or whatever, but he definitely kind of, for me, that's what kind of reminded me of was like the old school, like Gunslinger kind of, and the movie itself kind of reminded me of that, but him specifically, so.
Film Recommendations and Reviews
01:30:06
Brian Leithead
It was just, even though he wasn't acting and like, you know, it wasn't like some sort of drama where he could show his full range. um think with what limited, you know, maybe we we screen timers or have you, he kind of made the most of it. So that's what impressed me about that.
01:30:25
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it's like I said, a good film. Some people aren't going to like it. Other people, it might be one of those things where you take a chance on it and it becomes like one of your favorite films because it kind of hits you in a different way. Like I was talking about, and it's one of those niche things. So.
01:30:45
David Isaacs
but yeah, give it a try. If you have the subscription, if you have other ways of obtaining to be able to watch Dread or Moon, because I don't know what Moon is on currently, but still something I highly recommend.
01:31:01
David Isaacs
anybody to watch and it might not be for you and if it's not then that's okay but if you can have a respect and appreciation for kind of a movie that's different in what you're currently seeing because that's the whole point of the segment if it's something different and maybe you finish it and you don't like it as much but you have Pieces of it that you can respect in some regards because I know I get through a lot of stuff and it's like well I can respect it for this, but I don't really like it's not really my cup of tea or whatever
01:31:38
Brian Leithead
Yeah. underrated piece of media that I wanted to recommend this week. it might not seem like it, but it's only on one platform. And I think if it were like, if it was released in theaters or like possibly on Netflix, I think it would get more recognition than it deserves. it's called prey. It's on, it's an exclusive to Hulu, but it's basically it's a predator movie.
01:32:06
Brian Leithead
but this takes place in like the 16 or 1700s with a female lead and the Predator is slightly less advanced than maybe you know what you've seen in previous films but it was kind of like back to the basics but what made the first Predator so good was like the suspense and just like the slowly kind of taking out what my, uh, you know, interesting killer cool, cool after kill kind of horror slash suspense movie. but I think it was as good ah my opinion, it was as good as the first one with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Uh, but it also kind of added to that legacy. There's like a few Easter eggs that play into like the earlier films or films that would come later in as far as the timeline was concerned.
01:33:05
Brian Leithead
So yeah, I would recommend that. I know it is exclusive as of yesterday reading to to Hulu, I recommend seeing that.
01:33:14
David Isaacs
Yeah, now I have to check it out.
01:33:21
Brian Leithead
And I know that they are working on a sequel for it, but in what capacity I'm not sure if it's going to be exclusive to Hulu or not, but I think it came out in 2021, maybe 2022, but I just personally felt like the movie should you be talked about a little bit more and it was.
01:33:43
David Isaacs
Yeah, I mean, I definitely hadn't heard of it, but. I'm not up with the whole. Alien predator, how that lower watch alien versus predator growing up, I've seen the. Say like 2015.
01:34:03
David Isaacs
Predator movie like predator.
01:34:05
Brian Leithead
Uh, is that the one with, uh, Sterling K. Brown and, uh, what's his name from Narcos?
01:34:12
David Isaacs
I have no idea.
01:34:15
Brian Leithead
There is, I think there is the predator, which was the most recent one prior to pray. And then then and before that was predators with Adrian Brody, which I thought, okay.
01:34:23
David Isaacs
Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of.
01:34:26
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Danny Trejo and, uh, uh,
01:34:31
David Isaacs
Walton Goggins, Elyse Braga, Topher Grace, First Wally, Lawrence Fishburn, yeah.
01:34:34
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Oh yeah, Machali wasn't that, wasn't he?
01:34:43
Brian Leithead
Yeah, it was pretty, yeah, pretty loaded cast. But, yeah, that's another, another good one. Um, didn't really like the Predator as much. I felt like it was trying to like, I dunno, be like too much of a cool suffering or like meta movie more than an actual,
01:35:01
Brian Leithead
you know, adding to the lore. And I'm not like a big predator or alien person either. I just thought that the prey movie was unique to the first one. Cause I don't even watch like predator two with Danny Glover and I don't watch ABP. I just kind of, I watched predators cause my friends and I, when that movie came out in that time period, that's when we were going to the movies, like every week didn't matter what was out. Like we were just going to see something. So.
01:35:28
Brian Leithead
but I just, I just thought that was, uh, one of the more unique, maybe horror suspense movies that have come out recently. So, Oh yeah, that came out.
01:35:36
David Isaacs
all alien romulus too was a one this kale cali spainy kaley spainy she was also in civil war yeah i think she's uh one of those actors that's gaining traction right now
01:35:42
Brian Leithead
That's on Netflix right now, I think.
Podcast Reflection and Conclusion
01:36:06
David Isaacs
But alright, I think we went a little over time this week. Not exactly a bad thing, split it up. It's all just word garbage for a lot of people anyways, not really.
01:36:21
David Isaacs
God, this cough is gonna kill me. Just from me being irritated by how much I'm coughing.
01:36:29
Brian Leithead
Hmm. Yeah, I get that. but Yeah, we gave people a lot of information this week. I think whether it's probably, it might just come one year or not the other, but at least we tried. Right. And that's the point of our podcast is to figure ourselves out, uh, holding each other accountable, and every week.
01:36:50
David Isaacs
Yep. Just the accountability, communication, and, uh, yeah, hopefully actions, better, better actions. and the bad habits that we find when we're trying to fix our other bad habits that we pick up. Um, probably grab a Diet Coke after this, um, um, against my will, but.
01:37:16
Brian Leithead
Yeah, and I'll probably have some notches after this. I don't know, you know, I might just go to bed after this, but, uh, you know, uh, we'll see.
01:37:27
David Isaacs
every day just got to get a little bit better you know any capacity whatever it is
01:37:33
Brian Leithead
Yeah. Just like the same football go one on one and over every week.
01:37:39
David Isaacs
Yeah. All right. Well, thanks, everybody. Hope you all have a great week. We should be back around this time next week. This should probably be posted if I'm not lazy sometime over the next couple of days. So bye for now and hope to get you something here soon.
01:37:58
Brian Leithead
Bye everybody.