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The Polymath Experience #22 - That’s My Quant / Julien Pelegri image

The Polymath Experience #22 - That’s My Quant / Julien Pelegri

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Julien a.k.a That's My Quant va vite devenir ton trader préféré. Il est complètement passionné par les marchés financiers et par le partage de ce qu'il apprend. Il a lui même beaucoup de réussite dans le trading et de plus en plus dans le business et a lancé le club d'investissement Merov.  

On parle trading, psychologie d'investisseurs, comment aborder le marché de manière efficiente et optimale et plein d'autres choses intéressantes pour faire de toi un meilleur trader et investisseur.

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Introduction of Julien, the Quant Visionary

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Hello everyone and welcome back to the Polymath Experience Experience Experience and I am your host Polymath today and probably for the last recording of the year which will be probably the first episode of the year.
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We have a special thing, we have someone special.
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He starts with a crazy energy, you have rarely seen that.
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And he has an objective very clear, he wants to make 1000 people of his investment millionaires.
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And it's not all, it's...
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the bottom of the description.
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He is, among other things, partner of Ousama Amar on a project of market making.
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And for those who don't know Ousama Amar, it's still a lot.
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For those who navigated a little bit in the French entrepreneur,
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I think no one can't even know it.
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Our guest is also a mini whale clone-ex-artefact, so we can hear it well.
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It's someone who takes everything he does extremely well.
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He is very determined and clearly, I won't be able to do it against him.
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And to find out who this is, it's our friend Julien, That's My Quant.
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That's

Finding Inspiration in Warren Buffett

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it.
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With the same That's My Quant, because my little quote, my brand is That's My Quant, because I'm a quant.
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And as you said, in terms of the reference in the movie, a mythic of the Beach York, where we have this intervention on That's My Quant, a little bit for justifying some calculations or strategies of investment, plus or moins valid.
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It's fantastic this scene.
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To chop the sound I was going to look at it.
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The whole movie is a classic.
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The Big Short is really a movie to watch.
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You

Brotherly Dynamics and Business Parallels

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haven't even followed the movie at the time?
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No, I have 25 years and I have done my studies in two years.
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I'm still still in finance.
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But after that, I was a little bit older than 18 years old, I started to look at all that.
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And then, I had a bit of a bit of a background, so it was done relatively quickly.
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It's a bit mythic for the people, the people who are going to say,
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You know, we discussed it, the people who confond a little bit of everything.
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They confond the brokerage, the bank, the trader, the coin.
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It's a bit of a fool.
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In addition, the films don't help.
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So, it's pretty

Original Branding and Trading Focus

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simple.
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I do, I do the coin to simplify.
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So, in general, I take a bit of data science and apply it to the financial market to respond to problems, and often problems of our clients.
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Yeah, yeah, normal.
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And you always were interested in finance?
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You knew that you were interested in finance?
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Well, I think indirectly I always thought I'd finish in finance.
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After I didn't have a financial in the family or a person who is in finance.
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I didn't have a financial study, so I didn't have a financial study.
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But I was in the middle of the sense where I made a lot of maths, a lot of data, a lot of machine learning, AI.
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And so we're going to say that many people like me finish in finance or
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Atterrisse là-bas, c'est quand même un secteur hyper porteur qui a beaucoup de croissance, qui est quand même très gros, très compétitif.
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Donc je pense que si vous aimez un peu de challenger un peu le truc, vous finissez toujours un peu tous en finance.
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Et puis moi, ça répondait toujours à une problématique que j'avais depuis toujours.
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C'était à un moment

Psychological Resilience in Trading

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donné, je me suis dit je vais aller avoir de l'argent.
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L'idée, c'est un peu comme ce que me disait Warren Buffett.
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Si tu fais pas d'argent quand tu dors, finalement, tu travailleras toute ta vie.
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Donc ça, ça m'avait un petit peu traumatisé quand j'étais petit.
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So I thought, how to maximize the fact that, thanks to my job, I'm going to do money and in addition to my job, I'm going to do money on the money, and so have a little bit of this virtue.
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We're not the same traumatism.
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Yeah, it's true.
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A punchline of Warren Buffett, it's cool, it's cheap.
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And your brother, how does it organize?
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How do you work together?
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And how do you work together?
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Yeah, so with my brother, we're a bit like the brother Tate, we'll say.
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Tate Brothers.
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In fact, it's done naturally because he's more old than me.
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He's very mature and he has really different skills from my own.
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So in fact, it's hyper complemented.
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Because he has some skills where I have no expertise on it, I'm null.
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And he's on certain of my skills.
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So frankly, it's pretty good.
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And frankly, it's super agréable.
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I think it's a great thing to say,
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It's good, sometimes the family can be a little complicated in what we hear from the return.
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But globally, if you have a friend or a friend of a family, it would be better to do business in family, for confidence, also to be able to talk and to be able to advance.
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It's super important.
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I would say that it's really on the skills that they are well.
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And then in addition, it's pretty cool to work with your friend.
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And since the beginning, it was like that?
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You had a deal together?
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How did it go?
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I think it was a bit at the beginning.
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I tried to help him in his industry, which was rather a startup, so the product, developing software, SaaS, for

Personal Branding and Strategic Partnerships

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those who see it.
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So I did a lot of work in his industry, and then he's a little bit in the finance.
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And then finally, he's remained in my industry, all in keeping his path where he's more product manager, he's doing business development, etc.
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But very, the product, startup, so there we have a lot of need for this kind of compétence.
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So you're on the side of the business, finance and marketing, because you seem to have fixed the objective of making noise, and your brother is on the business.
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It's true, business, product, the management, the operation, which is quite important.
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In fact, on my branding side, I'm going to say that I'm going to try my chance.
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I think it's a business that is super competitive, super difficult.
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So, I'm going to say that my focus is trading and content now.
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Even if I don't do much content, not as much trading, but I don't do much content.
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But it's a tentative, we'll see where it leads.
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I think it's something different from what people are going to see on the trading, investing, so it's a little bit of luck.
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Yeah, but it's good because the thing that's complicated in branding, it's not a notion of content, or of content, it's a notion of placement of content.
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and to have your identity to you.
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There are many people who start creating content by copying a little bit what's happening ailleurs, but without really bringing their own path.
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So I think you found it very quickly.
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The quality level is good, and in addition, you seem to have already found your niche.
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So it's cool.
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Yeah, it's cool.
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In fact, I agree with you, it's because there are many people who make a lot of content, who look very well.
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And then it's very difficult for these people to activate their community.
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We, in my niche, maybe we're not very known, we don't do much, but the content we do is very active, it's a lot to talk about people.
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So in fact, your conversion is really gigantic.
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And then we won't be kidding, it's also from a marketing point.
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We tried to pay a lot of people, we tested a lot of things in marketing for people who help us to generate more business.
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So at a moment on thought about how we can create our own business, it makes sense.
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So

Vision and Risk-Reward in Market Dynamics

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it's like that we tried it.
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And then I will not say that with Ousama who is a little bit behind, who is a good advice.
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Well, normally I'm well guided.
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In terms of advice, in terms of visibility also.
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Because mine of nothing, being associated with him, it's crazy.
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Like, despite all the FUD that he had around him,
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He seemed really untouchable.
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I remember something he said in a podcast, but I've heard it about 6 or 7 years ago.
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He said that I've been able to travel the tempest when I'm in the taff, but when I'm in the house, I leave it at the door, I'm going to sleep, and I'd say that he's a...
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But after it's on the screen, you know directly, so I don't know if you have the same experience, but it's like he has a good love, which is quite important to allow him to continue to do his own chemin, to continue to do his own thing.
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And then, it's true, it's a phoenix.
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You can't, as you said at the beginning of the podcast, don't bet against him, don't bet also against him.
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You know, it's always like, what I say is that all the videos that he offers, everything is gratuite.
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I know very few people who offer so much value, it's kind of a crazy thing.
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It's a crazy thing.
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Gary Vee National.
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Yeah, that's right.
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And Gary Vee, even if he offers a lot of things, there are times where he has to be very violent in his brand.
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And where you can tell what Ousama has not done.
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and you can see all the content they apport.
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And of course, you can see these videos on the internet because there are a lot of people who are a shadow man, but there are plenty of people and all that, especially if you want to get started.
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After there are others to watch, but I think it's super interesting to put all the content there on the internet to really make sure you're doing it.
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What

Foundations of Trading as a Young Enthusiast

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were the first things, or the first things you made, the first conseils that were very important to you?
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I would say that it is excellent, it's really on the vision, but not like the vision that people hear it.
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In fact, I think he feels good the market, even if he is not an expert in a domain, he is so good that he understands the market, he understands the dynamics and he knows very quickly the risk reward that you have on all the activities you want to do.
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So for me, in the entrepreneurial or a little bit of everything you do when you build, if you already enlève everything where you want to lose your time,
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and where your return on investment is not very good on certain types of content etc.
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If you cut it very hard, you can't take it away.
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It's really hard to do what you do.
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Because the hours you pass are hours where there's productivity etc.
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So I would say that.
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For sure, from the point of view mindset, it's not bad.
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It's a different approach.
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And that's an approach that you can't see when you watch videos on YouTube.
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It's different.
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And then, it's just an ad ad that's huge, you don't see people incredible, it's open to the heart, you see things crazy.
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So, it's also a magic thing, I'd say.
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It's cool.
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But, bref, let's go to you.
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What were your first steps between the end of your studies, when you had really done the switch of math to trading?
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How did you discover that?
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Really, we were going to stop for the moment on the financial side.
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What were your first lessons?
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How did you...
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Well, for being honest, it was very very early, because I was minor, so I was still at school, and in fact I traded on a... I didn't have a chance to have a account, because I was mine, and I traded on brokers who offered a demo account.
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Okay.
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So I was a little random, what I was doing, it was a little bit of a thing, but in fact I was already a little bit in it and I started a little bit to look at all of that, and in all of a sudden I listened very hard... It was a forex?
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Yeah, it was a forex forex.
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And in fact I was always very attentive when I had people who passed, who said I'm in finance, I'm doing this, I'm doing this.
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So I was

Quantitative Approach in Trading

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really captivating.
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And in fact it was done naturally.
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And then even when I started my studies just after the bac, very quickly I looked at a lot of what happened.
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And when I was in the crypto, very quickly I did that.
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And then everyone knows that crypto is super prenant.
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And very quickly I found a lot of stuff.
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That's what I'm saying.
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You had a pro approach to Forex?
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Or at the beginning you had to leave a little bit on your own, you had to balance your buys on anything and you had to wait?
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I think it was my force, I don't have a... I'm not old but I think at my time it wasn't all the bizarre things that there are on Instagram that we can see on Forex, the scam things.
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So in fact, I tried to look at what happened in the books, a little on the internet, but on the content, it's not YouTube.
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I had to do the content very difficult to read, papers, things.
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And I tried to do a little bit like that.
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And then, I realized that it was segmented by the technique, the fundamental analysis, algorithmic trading.
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And then, all the strategies they were there, arbitrage, all those things.
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So I started to explore it to make my idea of what happened.
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But no, I didn't start as a big agent.
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I didn't start as a grid.
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I started because I didn't know, it was interested in what happened.
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I wanted to understand a little bit what happened.
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Do you remember the first lessons you've learned?
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The first things you've learned... You know, if you wanted to remember the 3-4 lessons you've learned at that time, which you've used to now?
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Niveau trading, you want to say?
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Yeah.
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In fact, I think one of my forces, in any case, something that I've learned super early, is that there are plenty of people who have on trading that are completely wrong.
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In fact, what's difficult on trading is the big part of the account,
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It's that, in fact, your cost to search in the way it's enormous.
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For example, the cost to launch an entrepreneur with not the good branding on a market where your market is small, all these errors that you make and they really make a difference, whether you're very good.
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I would say that it's that, it's to understand what works and what works in trading.
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Why?
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to understand that it is not necessarily the solution, the miracle, the miracle, which will work all the way through all the time, etc., or something magical, that it is an association of many things and that it is necessary to understand your limits and to get into it on that.
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And then I think I'm very resilient to the FUD and the FOMO, very resilient to the sound of the cyrènes, so that's what I call it.
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So it's with all these things where you'll have some people who will tell you about the things surrealist, the promises.
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So I'd say that these three things are a bit...
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a little naive when I say it like that but they are very important they are very very real for someone who and for anyone who is listening to today and who is already a little bit in the web 3.0 who is already a little bit in the crypto we know all of a lot of the best books that I read on the trading at the time it was Trading in the Zone
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Trading is on the other.
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Which is a classic for some traders, because it's really... I think the biggest solution is that the trading is psychology.
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You can do everything you want, you can have a good model, you can have a good strategy.
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If you don't have the mental that goes with, you will be fired.
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Rebonjour à toi, désolé de l'interruption mais si le contenu te plaît tu peux écouter ça parce que tu auras l'opportunité de nous soutenir et de t'assurer qu'on continue de faire de beaux épisodes.
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Aujourd'hui je voudrais te parler d'un protocole qui est probablement en train de devenir un des plus importants de notre écosystème et de l'écosystème financier global, il s'agit du protocole Wasabi.
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Et aujourd'hui tout simplement ce qu'il permet de faire c'est de parier sur l'avenir du prix de collection NFT.
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Plus tard
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It's an element, it's a platform that will allow you to be able to get the power of all the tokens that will be tokenized.
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And all the digital objects but also the real objects.
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Two small examples of how you can use it today.
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For example, you have a NFT collection that you love, which is a very high price.
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You know that the price will descend because there was a speculation.
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You want to keep your NFT, but you want to capture a part of this value.
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You can use the platform to

AI's Role in Enhancing Trading Skills

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buy the price of the price.
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And like that, keep your NFT, but also keep your value.
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And the second example is...
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If you are a NFT collection and you think it will increase in price, but you don't have the money to buy all this NFT or you don't want to take all this risk, you can simply use the option option.
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and in this way, obtain a key which will allow you to win on the price.
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Of course, always do your research or Dior, as we say in the French world, but you don't use that tools that you understand and that you manage, you don't use that amount that you can help you lose.
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All the financial investments have a risk.
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And now, back to the episode.
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What did you do at this time?
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You had a macro approach?
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You were on the list of tactics?
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Do you remember?
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I never had this school to say, I don't play football, I don't play basketball.
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So for me it's always the same.
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In trading, you have to understand where your advantage is, where is your edge?
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And so when you understand
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So the idea is how can you take a little of all the places to improve your rentability?
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What I would say about that is that when I started, I was not necessarily a technical analysis, I was never a fan of the technical analysis, but I was looking at a lot of the graphs, I tried to understand a little what happened, how the news was diger, how to recover some metrics, you see the price, you see a little bit of the liquid, how to move.
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In fact, I tried to really model what happened.
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Very often people say that I do not do that, so I do not do that and I do not do that.
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No, you have to understand, you have to adapt.
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Finally, the biggest thing for me, the trader, you know, psychology is important, it's how you adapt to the market and how you get to adapt without you to do not get into the overfitting where you go to do the sur-apprentice of what you see.
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It's not because when Elon Musk tweet Dogecoin that it's not going to work.
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It's not going to work.
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It's not going to work.
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It's not going to work.
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It's going to have an approach quantitative that tells you that what is going to do for the solution?
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It's not going to find the solution.
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It's not going to find the solution.
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It's going to be the way to find the solution.
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But it's going to find a balance between the two.
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How do you define someone who is a quant?
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What do you mean to have an approach quantitative?
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I would say because there are people who say yes I'm a quant, they're not very respectful.
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For example, the trade file is a lot of people who are in crypto who are in an analysis technique.
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I'm convinced that there are a lot of people who are in crypto who are in an analysis technique.
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I'm convinced that there are a lot of people who are in crypto who are in a lot more than a trade file.
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So it's to understand that for me, the quant, and I see it very often, it's the point common that I see in all the very good traders, all the very good investors.
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I met one a week ago, one of a very, very, very, very traders crypto.
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And he said, I'm not a point, he said, you're not a trader.
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In fact, I said, you're a point.
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When you explain how you trade, you're a point.
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So what I'd say is how to do, to really re-transcribe what you do in the right way and understand what you do, it's a sense.
00:19:26
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I'll give you an example, the Fibonacci, the tracements of Fibonacci.
00:19:29
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I don't believe I'm not a fan, I don't use it, etc.
00:19:31
Speaker
So imagine you use it.
00:19:33
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It's often the people who use the tracements of Fibonacci on the report of the value.
00:19:36
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It's how they allow us to have a consistency on a pattern.
00:19:39
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The pattern is the pattern of a token that is mounted on a fortly.
00:19:44
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When he touched his top, there is a probability of X which retrace of 30%, 30%, 30%.
00:19:49
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In average, after a month of X%, you have a probability that the thing retrace a coefficient multiplicator x the percentage of this month.
00:19:56
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Imagine.
00:19:56
Speaker
And so you understand that it is a sense.
00:19:58
Speaker
Everything explains.
00:19:59
Speaker
And in fact, if you have this approach, you understand a lot more that the Fibonacci is a simplified tool, which can be a simple tool, which can describe certain factors and certain things.
00:20:07
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I'm not going to go into detail because I don't want to say it and simplify the work of certain people.
00:20:11
Speaker
The big problem we have on the account is why no one speaks to the account, why they don't speak to the internet.
00:20:15
Speaker
I know all those people who are very good accounts, they don't speak to the internet.
00:20:17
Speaker
They don't speak to them.
00:20:18
Speaker
It's a bit strange, but I understand it because you don't want to explain what you do.
00:20:23
Speaker
For example, here, what I explained about Fibonacci, it's bizarre for certain people.
00:20:27
Speaker
Most people don't understand it, but if you start talking about what I explained and try to creuse, you really understand what a Fibonacci is, what the guys play, what you theorize, and is it not even you can improve the modelization of Fibonacci in taking into account of many factors of your time series?
00:20:41
Speaker
Because at the end of the day, what we look at, it's a series temporel, so it's how the price moves in fonction of the time.
00:20:47
Speaker
So, you want to give an idea.
00:20:48
Speaker
Yeah, it's fascinating.
00:20:49
Speaker
And for a little bit more concrete, for example, in the big lines, this famous trader to you talk about, what do you do?
00:20:56
Speaker
He's trading his own own money, so he's trading plus 9 shares in crypto, so it's kind of rare.
00:20:59
Speaker
It's high stakes and low?
00:21:01
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no
00:21:06
Speaker
He actually, in crypto, because it's for him the market that presents the best risk risk, I think for most people who are in crypto, it's a lot for that, even if we are builders, etc.
00:21:14
Speaker
You expose yourself to one of the industries that has the most growth, so everything you do is due to it because of that.
00:21:20
Speaker
I was talking to someone who was in insurance, in an insurance country, I didn't mention it, I said why did you do that?
00:21:26
Speaker
He said in this country, it's the industry that has the most growth.
00:21:29
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It's just a shit, it's been 20 years that it's the case, so I said yeah, you're right.
00:21:50
Speaker
What did you say to say that he was a quant?
00:21:53
Speaker
What did you describe in his approach that he said that he was a quant?
00:21:56
Speaker
In fact, it's a bit special.
00:21:58
Speaker
I think it's very difficult when you meet people, especially when I'm in Dubai, there are many vendors of rêve and others.
00:22:07
Speaker
It's very difficult when you talk to a person, between what she says and reality, you know, there's a world and it's to understand that.
00:22:12
Speaker
And it's that where it's interesting, and it's why when I'm out, I like to talk to people who are there, because in fact, you understand the difference.
00:22:18
Speaker
It's a bit like a doctor who meets a doctor who meets a doctor.
00:22:20
Speaker
I think very quickly you can feel if the other is not a doctor.
00:22:23
Speaker
So with the Quant, it's really the same.
00:22:26
Speaker
And in fact, it's really how the guy tells you what he does, what process he does, etc.
00:22:31
Speaker
Where you start to understand that his method is quite a lot of thought.
00:22:35
Speaker
And even he does things where he says, for example, when he happens that on the market, I don't know, I'm doing that.
00:22:41
Speaker
And he says, you know, I'm backtest it.
00:22:43
Speaker
And I can tell you that there's a real pattern, there's something.
00:22:45
Speaker
And so in fact, it's the guys who, finally, are not the tools for him.
00:22:54
Speaker
In fact, this guy, you learn the code, you give it to data science, you put it back testers, you give it to a little bit of muscles, you put it to a big team, maybe he will do things even more stylized.
00:23:04
Speaker
And so in fact, it's that the current, and it's why you have a lot of funds that are very very strong.
00:23:09
Speaker
It's that, what happens in these funds, they have a lot of capital, they can't go through these guys very intelligent,
00:23:15
Speaker
to give them the best munitions and so then after the guys they are in very good position to be able to beat the markets and to be able to get the most possible market financials.
00:23:25
Speaker
That's crazy.
00:23:26
Speaker
What's interesting is
00:23:31
Speaker
I've never been too creuser, but for example, I started working with a guy who is in my ecosystem, who he does machine learning, and he does a buy, he does a lot of money, but he has not had the time or the time or the time of doing it.
00:23:46
Speaker
And so, I'm led to this issue, and there's always this thing
00:23:50
Speaker
you are really at the meeting between human psychology and technology and finance.
00:23:55
Speaker
And so, the automation is too good, the artificial intelligence is too good, but to be good at that, I imagine it is super good for you.
00:24:05
Speaker
where

Financial Journey and Investment Strategies

00:24:06
Speaker
the human is, where the machine is.
00:24:10
Speaker
And how do you deal with that?
00:24:12
Speaker
Because I find you very mature for your age, and I find you really a capacity to recuse and
00:24:21
Speaker
on feels that you're not just someone who tests it and you feel that you're already in the way to succeed and that you already maîtrisate your stuff.
00:24:30
Speaker
Yeah, it's true.
00:24:31
Speaker
It's a bit of a different way when you pass 7 jours on 7 all your time and you know, I don't know how to say it in my life, I don't know how to say it in my life.
00:24:41
Speaker
Yeah, well, you can't get my life, you can see that.
00:24:43
Speaker
In fact, you spend the time, you progress.
00:24:45
Speaker
And it's also one of the things that is cool with the Quant, and that's not only finance, you can see this approach quantitative on whatever you do.
00:24:53
Speaker
and in fact it's that you progress much faster than a domain also so that's also important in trading it's not to be a big trading investissement it's a journey you know it's you know it's going to accompany all your life and so you have to want to do well and do well and start to start with the things and start with that we have to do this club of investors also you know the mayor of club it's for help all these people you know to progress all along the journey you know
00:25:12
Speaker
And so, as you said, I'm pretty convinced that when people talk about the IA, they say that it's going to suppress jobs, it's going to do this, it's going to do that.
00:25:19
Speaker
In fact, I think that the IA, it's going to just sublimify the skills we have as humans.
00:25:22
Speaker
And it's going to really sublimify all the people who are croant.
00:25:26
Speaker
Because in fact, what happens when you have the IA, it's that we give you a great tool, super puissant.
00:25:33
Speaker
I talked to a friend who does copywriting and I asked him, is he already using GPT?
00:25:37
Speaker
He said no.
00:25:38
Speaker
In your team you can have the Mbappé for copywriting, but if you don't take the Mbappé for copywriting, it's bad.
00:25:43
Speaker
In addition, it costs 20$ per month.
00:25:44
Speaker
And in fact, it's what's happening.
00:25:48
Speaker
And finally, this IA, all these tools that we have available, it's how you can use it and leverage it.
00:25:56
Speaker
And to try to make everything you want in your life even more productive, even more fast.
00:25:59
Speaker
And in finance, it's a normotopic because there are plenty of things, especially for us, we use it.
00:26:03
Speaker
We need to have a little bit of IA, it's quite a large IA.
00:26:07
Speaker
It can make a little bullshit when we say yeah, I use IA.
00:26:09
Speaker
But to have a choice of how we use certain data, how we fit the algorithm, how we adapt to the market, etc.
00:26:18
Speaker
How is there a way to use a trader, a retail classic, who just does a little buy a crypto, a little bit of a time frame, how can he use an IA tool accessible to help him in his trading?
00:26:35
Speaker
It's a good question.
00:26:40
Speaker
It's a very good question.
00:26:42
Speaker
Simplement?
00:26:43
Speaker
Or, just a way of doing it?
00:26:45
Speaker
That's a way of doing it.
00:26:47
Speaker
It's a way of doing it.
00:26:48
Speaker
There are APIs, it's a way of doing it.
00:26:50
Speaker
It's a way of doing it.
00:26:52
Speaker
But it's a way of doing it.
00:26:54
Speaker
I'm not a technical one.
00:26:55
Speaker
I know that the chat GPT can balance the code.
00:26:59
Speaker
As soon as you can go on it.
00:27:03
Speaker
I would say that the most interesting thing about all the tools we have now, if we take the chat GPT, is that the chat GPT will help you to spend more time on things that make sense for you, like the trading.
00:27:13
Speaker
And in fact, imagine you have a trading journal where you document all the things, you will be able to send a chat GPT to send a lot of things to you,
00:27:19
Speaker
to go a little bit more on it.
00:27:20
Speaker
You can also give content that you see on the internet.
00:27:22
Speaker
For example, I copy and paste a lot of things from ChatGPT and I say, yeah, I think that, this article, it does that.
00:27:27
Speaker
What's your view?
00:27:28
Speaker
I think that's what the research is.
00:27:30
Speaker
And I always ask you, in ChatGPT, you don't have to ask questions.
00:27:32
Speaker
You find that in finance, there are a lot of data where it's very complicated to get information.
00:27:36
Speaker
For example, if you tap on YouTube, you don't have anything.
00:27:39
Speaker
If you tap on the internet, you don't have anything.
00:27:41
Speaker
For example, if you say ChatGPT, you don't have things a little different.
00:27:43
Speaker
And you arrive to ask questions on ChatGPT with different terms.
00:27:47
Speaker
in the mode, put it in the face of a guy hyper scientific, give it a context, etc.
00:27:52
Speaker
It allows you to find different things that you don't find on the internet.
00:27:56
Speaker
On va revenir un petit peu en arrière.
00:27:59
Speaker
Sur ton LinkedIn, j'ai vu que tu avais une expérience ton rôle, c'était « Advanced DeFi Strategy Hunter ».
00:28:06
Speaker
Ça m'a vraiment piqué.
00:28:07
Speaker
Je me suis dit, vas-y, comment est-ce que toi, tu utilises la data et des maths pour identifier une stratégie DeFi?
00:28:15
Speaker
En fait, toujours pareil par rapport à ça.
00:28:17
Speaker
Je te donne un exemple très simple.
00:28:18
Speaker
C'est que tu en parlais beaucoup d'un moment donné des robots sandwich sur la DeFi.
00:28:22
Speaker
Je ne sais pas si ça vous parle, les robots sandwich.
00:28:24
Speaker
En gros, c'est avant de faire un swap,
00:28:26
Speaker
In gros, there's someone who sees that you have a transaction in the blockchain Ethereum, who says, ah, Julien will buy 10 Ethereum at a price.
00:28:33
Speaker
Ok, I'll buy it before.
00:28:35
Speaker
Like that, I'll buy it cheaper and I'll buy it later, you know, in the pool.
00:28:37
Speaker
And hop, for example.
00:28:38
Speaker
That works pretty much on the very big orders who create a slipage, etc.
00:28:41
Speaker
In fact, it's already to understand
00:28:44
Speaker
In fact, a person explains it.
00:28:45
Speaker
Okay, is it true?
00:28:46
Speaker
So, is it possible to get rid of the blockchain, to recover all the orders, all the big swap, which are passed in the previous blocks?
00:28:52
Speaker
And is it possible to get rid of all the big swap, because you can see what happened before, in the pool, to tell you, okay, you see that there are big orders, it's true that there are people who will do things.
00:29:02
Speaker
Okay, is it possible to recover?
00:29:03
Speaker
And you can creuse it like that.
00:29:04
Speaker
In fact, it's always the same.
00:29:05
Speaker
The idea is that when you have an intuition in trading, you can see something that you can see.
00:29:08
Speaker
If it's true, someone is wrong, if it's true, someone has done a strategy that doesn't work, or has had a chance, or something has worked.
00:29:15
Speaker
So the idea is, is this intuition valid?
00:29:17
Speaker
Once it's valid, it's how I can reproduce the experience, is it I can improve it, and is it that experience can be enough significant, important to every day for me to make money?
00:29:26
Speaker
Because if I have this experience, it can be 3 times per year and I only do 100$, well, 300$, is it worth it?
00:29:33
Speaker
So it's a whole process.
00:29:34
Speaker
But actually, being a quant, it's doing lean startup.
00:29:37
Speaker
You have a hypothesis, you have a hypothesis, and then you create a model to implement this hypothesis.
00:29:43
Speaker
I don't know the contrary.
00:29:45
Speaker
I often find a lot of people who are successful and I try to understand how they do, I'm always surprised at what they do.
00:29:50
Speaker
And it's a lot of people who are in the world.
00:29:58
Speaker
No, but in fact, it's fantastic.
00:29:59
Speaker
I was really looking at your image.
00:30:01
Speaker
I was looking at your tableau blanc, you put your formulas, you said, oh, but if it's not that, it's not that.
00:30:06
Speaker
And in fact, yes, it's the case, but it's funny.
00:30:10
Speaker
I was thinking, in fact, it's not a trader, it's a philosopher.
00:30:13
Speaker
It's a philosopher, because there's a little bit of that.
00:30:17
Speaker
But you see, with Merov, there is a big community side, you want to help people.
00:30:26
Speaker
You can make money, but there is also this side of the way to make them better traders.
00:30:31
Speaker
And so how do you balance someone who has never done trading and who says, I would like to say, I would like to try it, I would like to try it.
00:30:38
Speaker
What are your methods to help you become good?
00:30:41
Speaker
And you keep the last two for you to join Merov?
00:30:50
Speaker
You told me the three steps?
00:30:51
Speaker
Yeah, the few steps.
00:30:52
Speaker
I think that when people start, you don't have fear of taking the time to form and to understand that it will take a little bit of time.
00:30:58
Speaker
People want to pass the short cut and say okay, I'll go directly to the end.
00:31:02
Speaker
So in fact, you're a bit victim of your way of reasoning and you're going to be in a pit, you're going to see guys who won't help you.
00:31:11
Speaker
So, to have conscience that it takes a little bit of time, it's interesting that it takes a little bit of time, that it's a bit difficult, that it filters a lot of people at the entrance.
00:31:19
Speaker
And finally, the filter is relatively fast.
00:31:23
Speaker
So, what I say to people is not to have a lot of time to take a lot of time, to be able to build a plan.
00:31:28
Speaker
It's not to be all a fool, to say, okay,

Future Aspirations in Finance and Research

00:31:30
Speaker
tomorrow I'm going to do dropshipping because I have a video, there's a guy who's becoming rich and he's going to do dropshipping.
00:31:34
Speaker
Then there's a guy who's going to say he's going to do a SaaS AI, he's going to have a lot of money, he's going to do a SaaS AI.
00:31:37
Speaker
No, it's to understand what's going on and what's going on,
00:31:40
Speaker
who are the ones who are not and who are not a little bit because there is a lot of marketing on the head and to tell you that you have to build a plan in what is interesting investment and trading is that globalement we live in a world with inflation with the price all at a moment donné everything is financialized around us you will be confronted with investment and trading you can say what they want you can't do to do trading you can't do trading you can't do trading you're obligated and if you don't do that you will be really a victim of the system and I see many friends they have done very great studies etc they don't invest in
00:32:07
Speaker
They put it on their own, etc.
00:32:08
Speaker
Okay, it's very good.
00:32:09
Speaker
But you're a victim of the system.
00:32:11
Speaker
You don't want to forget that there are people who are on a business, who pay their dividends, who have a growth every year.
00:32:18
Speaker
You know, it's a money.
00:32:19
Speaker
And that you don't have anything.
00:32:20
Speaker
It's true that if you don't want to take a little bit of time, I don't want to do anything for you.
00:32:25
Speaker
I talked with someone who was in the middle of the house and said, yeah, I'm afraid that it would take a few hours per week.
00:32:31
Speaker
You're not going to talk about it for a financial freedom or a financial freedom.
00:32:34
Speaker
You're not going to talk about it.
00:32:36
Speaker
It's also a question of risk reward.
00:32:38
Speaker
It's to understand that you don't have a risk reward.
00:32:41
Speaker
But it's what are these three hours you're going to put, what's your rate you're going to get?
00:32:44
Speaker
And I think there are a simple calculation that doesn't have value.
00:32:47
Speaker
It's how much you're going to pay for you.
00:32:49
Speaker
If you tell you that you're going to pay for the time, it's to say that you're going to pay for three hours.
00:32:55
Speaker
In fact, it's not a problem, you can do your thing, you can do the leverage.
00:32:58
Speaker
For example, in the mayor of clubs, there is a big part of the air drop.
00:33:00
Speaker
And people say, I want to do the air drop, it's a chiant, etc.
00:33:03
Speaker
Franchement, if you have to do 100 000 dollars in crypto, you need to do the air drop.
00:33:07
Speaker
You need to do the air drop, etc.
00:33:09
Speaker
You can do the air drop in a way intelligent way.
00:33:11
Speaker
It's to say, I don't do the air drop, but I do the way indirectly because I'm going to test the protocols, it's interesting, because I want to do the research, because I want to understand, because there are protocols that are cool.
00:33:20
Speaker
For example, there is the air drop Jupiter on Solana who arrives.
00:33:22
Speaker
Jupiter, the product is crazy, I've used to use the product, yes I can use the hair drop, so you have a chance.
00:33:27
Speaker
But it's always the same, you have a little bit of a rien without rien.
00:33:30
Speaker
What's true is that there's very few efforts to put in order to make the result be enormous.
00:33:34
Speaker
And then it's always the same, if people want to work their lives in a job that often doesn't play, you can't say you're not happy, you're a si, you're a si, you're a si, you're a a a.
00:33:43
Speaker
I'm going to build a plan.
00:33:44
Speaker
And your plan, you don't have to... Because we see a lot of things on internet, etc.
00:33:48
Speaker
You don't have to say, I don't want to become rich.
00:33:51
Speaker
No, you don't have to do your plan.
00:33:53
Speaker
I don't know.
00:33:54
Speaker
You gain time by month, you put time to side, it's not a problem.
00:33:57
Speaker
You do it again.
00:33:58
Speaker
Because one day, maybe you'll have more money.
00:34:00
Speaker
One day, maybe you'll have a positive positive income if you'll have a lot more money to invest, etc.
00:34:05
Speaker
But because you've done well the steps in front,
00:34:07
Speaker
When you're at this stage, it will be fine.
00:34:10
Speaker
We see people who are rich are relatively quickly, but they are not going to be able to do it.
00:34:16
Speaker
So it's what it is.
00:34:17
Speaker
Okay, it's going to have a plan to tell you how to do more money, how to do more money, how to do more money, but then there's also a plan to tell you, even if I'm young, I invest in taux, because there's this compound effect on the return that you can have, but also the compound effect is on the knowledge that you have.
00:34:55
Speaker
Chez Hermès, ils sont fiers d'être français, mais ils n'ont pas d'action Hermès.
00:34:57
Speaker
Alors que c'est listé en bourse, tu pourrais.
00:34:59
Speaker
Moi, je dirais que c'est plus ça.
00:35:01
Speaker
Désolé, c'était hyper lent, c'était pas très structuré.
00:35:04
Speaker
Non, mais alors, tu ne te rends même pas compte de la valeur que tu as là-dedans parce que tu vas au-delà des idées préconçues, tu vas au-delà de dire il faudrait faire ci, il faudrait faire ça.
00:35:15
Speaker
Là, quelqu'un qui écoute ça,
00:35:17
Speaker
he will realize how important it is to say about how our world is financialized.
00:35:25
Speaker
It's a clear evidence that I didn't realize it, I didn't have formulated it like that in my head, but in fact it's really clear.
00:35:35
Speaker
And how... You know, I was telling you, even at a moment, today, if you see on TV that the oil price will increase and you say, I'm going to fill two jerry cans, it's the trading that you do.
00:35:48
Speaker
When you go to Leclerc and you go to the reduction, it's the trading.
00:35:52
Speaker
You arbitre...
00:35:56
Speaker
Exactly.
00:35:57
Speaker
Because you are talking about trading in the most large possible way.
00:36:03
Speaker
Because someone who is a lambda who is talking about trading, he sees a curve with a price, and you say, what kind of strategy I'm going to use.
00:36:14
Speaker
But you have the impression that you see in the most global way of the term, where we are in a world
00:36:21
Speaker
economic and financials in which there are opportunities and if you try to get this opportunity to get an active in the hope of revending it later on the way that for you it consists of trading on the top of the way it is trading, of the investment etc.
00:36:37
Speaker
Yes, of course, of course, of course.
00:36:39
Speaker
In fact, people see the trading on the screen, I'm not sure that the trading is saying that I'm not necessarily trading, you know, the trading is saying that
00:36:47
Speaker
I feel it from the market, I'm waiting, you know, it's really, it's a chance to see the opportunities that there are on the market.
00:36:54
Speaker
For example, something super important in trading, it's your risk.
00:36:58
Speaker
So, how do you start to define things that present for you the best risk on the market and then
00:37:03
Speaker
you can do it.
00:37:05
Speaker
I'm not going to read the whole thing about trading, because I think it's a bit difficult to explain or to visualize people in video, but it's important to pass the time on the curves, to pass the time on the graphs, to compare the activities, to understand what's happening and to improve your strategy.
00:37:22
Speaker
in trying to get out of the scope of what you see on internet and on twitter because it's very limited and it's not complex to find solutions to problems in a different way.
00:37:34
Speaker
And what is it for you?
00:37:35
Speaker
How do you take your system?
00:37:39
Speaker
I imagine you have several, because you talk about actions, crypto, airdrop, airdrop, so I imagine that your system is complex, but
00:37:50
Speaker
What are the verticals?
00:37:52
Speaker
What I call it often is how you generate performance or alpha.
00:37:56
Speaker
I have a lot of ways.
00:37:57
Speaker
There is a lot on what I read, the press, the articles that we have, the newsletters that we pay, Twitter.
00:38:04
Speaker
There are many people who say something about it, I saw this, I saw this.
00:38:07
Speaker
And then, it's research, so you have new data,
00:38:14
Speaker
and you try to find out in these data to know if you can extract something that will bring you something to risk, on the strategies, etc.
00:38:21
Speaker
What's your last example in date of a research process?
00:38:26
Speaker
In a particular research that I have done in date, something I can explain?
00:38:30
Speaker
Or not.
00:38:30
Speaker
Okay, I'll give you an example.
00:38:34
Speaker
Because in fact, it's a bit of a big deal, it's what we call the leaks of the alpha.
00:38:37
Speaker
If it's a value, I don't want to give it a value.
00:38:40
Speaker
In fact, it's very difficult.
00:38:41
Speaker
We don't talk about it.
00:38:42
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
00:38:43
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
00:38:44
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
00:38:46
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
00:38:48
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know.
00:38:49
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know.
00:38:49
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know.
00:38:50
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know.
00:38:52
Speaker
you have to have a lot of tokens that will list or that will make airdrop.
00:38:57
Speaker
So, it's how to maximize everything we can do.
00:39:02
Speaker
You take all the protocols on Solana, you look at all those who don't have airdrop, and you have airdrop,
00:39:08
Speaker
and you take three wallets, you have three brothers, three wallets, you put one Solana on each and you make all the transactions, you attack in all the senses, it takes two hours and then you're eligible to a airdrop.
00:39:17
Speaker
So in fact, the two hours you've passed, your risk is really good because maybe you'll recover, I don't know, imagine you've got two hours of 1000 dollars, for simplifying, it's not that you've got 1000 dollars an hour.
00:39:27
Speaker
And I know very few people who have a taux of plus of 1000 dollars an hour in their journey.
00:39:31
Speaker
So, for example, it could be that.
00:39:33
Speaker
And then from the point of view trading, it's finding a new type of data, for example, the funding rate, so the funding in crypto.
00:39:42
Speaker
And then it's to understand how the funding of Binance, compared to Bybit, compared to OKEx, is it possible to say something about the next move on the market?
00:39:53
Speaker
Or have a probability of movement that it's going to happen or that it's going to happen?
00:39:58
Speaker
It's really interesting.
00:40:00
Speaker
Even me, I didn't see it as large.
00:40:03
Speaker
It seems like it was in the video you posted, you talked about Next Generation Quantitative Office.
00:40:11
Speaker
What does that mean for you?
00:40:13
Speaker
Why do we need a new generation?
00:40:15
Speaker
What do you want to do differently?
00:40:17
Speaker
In the coin, in fact, I'm all young in this industry, I have resources limitless, I work with people with resources limitless, so what we do is to our level.
00:40:31
Speaker
Imagine you have a fund that invests every year, every year, dozens of millions, even more just in research and development, you know, it's a crazy thing.
00:40:37
Speaker
I think that I would be curious to know, from my opinion, how to do the metric, how to do it in the middle of the year, in the research and development, in trading strategies or in finance, every year, and then you compare it to health.
00:40:50
Speaker
I think that would really be a cold in the dos.
00:40:53
Speaker
But in fact, it's pretty simple,
00:40:56
Speaker
I want to make my journey in my trading, what I can offer to people, what I do.
00:40:59
Speaker
Because at the end of the day, I think we have a lot of the same objective, which is to try to work less, to be free, to be able to travel more.
00:41:08
Speaker
But it is always the same.
00:41:09
Speaker
It is how we can work our money, how we can invest our money in the way the most intelligent possible.
00:41:14
Speaker
And how can we also profit from the markets?
00:41:18
Speaker
Because they are there, they move, people want to profit, so it's not the last to profit.
00:41:24
Speaker
And you see in France, it's a crazy thing, I think it's a disaster, but it's really a catastrophe.
00:41:30
Speaker
It's a disaster, it's a disaster because there's no education financial there, I think in the majority of our parents, they don't have any money, they have a little bit of the immobilier, I don't even talk about crypto, because when people say they're not a fan of crypto, they think that it's an arnaque or something you want, it's their belief, it's not a bad thing, it's not a bad thing that people think about it.
00:41:49
Speaker
But on the contrary, on the actions, it's a crazy thing.
00:41:51
Speaker
That's why our CAC 40 is not in as good health care, it's because there are no more investors who invest in the same, who give them more resources.
00:41:58
Speaker
And it's still at the end of the day, in all the investment, it's to get the most resources possible to have your chance to generate the most value.
00:42:08
Speaker
It's not that we have all our investors, they support us in a way more important.
00:42:12
Speaker
And we, how do we try to give them the best possible value for them to get the best risk in exposition, in joining the Mure of Club and in everything we do in this journey.
00:42:21
Speaker
That's cool.
00:42:23
Speaker
And you talked about why you have to pay for the money.
00:42:27
Speaker
Toi, you'll see how after, when you were given not only your 1,000 million members, but the 5,000 next to you.
00:42:36
Speaker
You would like to know what later?
00:42:39
Speaker
I have already a few ideas in the head.
00:42:41
Speaker
You're not?
00:42:43
Speaker
I don't know.
00:42:44
Speaker
I'm not sure.
00:42:45
Speaker
I'm not sure.
00:42:46
Speaker
But I think I'll do that a little bit more in my life because there's something that I'm passionate about.
00:42:51
Speaker
I'm not sure about that.
00:42:52
Speaker
I'm a real passion.
00:42:53
Speaker
After I'm trying to do a little bit more because it's true that there's a lot of work.
00:42:56
Speaker
It's quite intense.
00:42:59
Speaker
You know, we've reached a little bit of our limits, but I think I'm passionate about it, I think I'll do it for a long time.
00:43:04
Speaker
But then I'd like to start a little bit to finance, it's a bit bizarre to say finance, but I'd like to test some things in the research, in medical.
00:43:11
Speaker
So

Life Trade-offs and Adaptive Strategies

00:43:12
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there's a lot of, there's Brian Johnson, for those who have followed with Blue Origin, who... No, it's Blue Print, Blue Origin, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
00:43:20
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who has done his thing.
00:43:22
Speaker
I think it's super cool.
00:43:23
Speaker
He's a thing where he wants to finance research for anti-aging.
00:43:28
Speaker
So how do you get to grow and you're a joony?
00:43:30
Speaker
So he tests everything on him, which is quite a bit funny.
00:43:33
Speaker
And he's a very interesting protocol that is very quantitative.
00:43:37
Speaker
Tell Brian Johnson and his protocol because I'm sure that many people who listen to know not necessarily.
00:43:42
Speaker
In fact, it's a American-American who said, how is it now I'm going to do something different from my life.
00:43:48
Speaker
I'm going to try to test several things with a scientific approach and quantitative approach.
00:43:54
Speaker
to try to maximize the resources that I can have, so I can spend money, to maximize the results that I can have from the research point of view and how to make myself a person, how to make myself a job and all that, and how to detect it and how to detect patterns.
00:44:06
Speaker
After, obviously, he has his genetics, there is a lot of experience in his experience, he is aware of it.
00:44:10
Speaker
But he has a very high-quality approach, so it's going to be, I don't know,
00:44:15
Speaker
example simple is when it is better to take these glucides in the day?
00:44:20
Speaker
How does the glucides impact the cortisol?
00:44:22
Speaker
How does it impact the other thing?
00:44:24
Speaker
How do we sleep?
00:44:25
Speaker
Because when he does, it is the light, it is the light, it is the night, what temperature, what degree of humidity, all these things are not.
00:44:31
Speaker
And in fact, it is how he, of all the things that we do in the day, boom!
00:44:36
Speaker
to a new level where everything will be adjusted, a little bit of a millimeter.
00:44:42
Speaker
In fact, it's a bit like the sci-fi movies, you see, in the mode, you know, the human enhanced, I don't know how to say it in French, but the human is improved.
00:44:51
Speaker
And so it's a bit like that, and he has the big prism, you know, anti-aging.
00:44:55
Speaker
And so, it's a thing that I would like to do, but I don't know that much because it's kind of hyper vast,
00:45:00
Speaker
I think it's the blueprint that I think is the most delirant.
00:45:03
Speaker
The protocol you're launching it?
00:45:05
Speaker
Yes, it's what he does throughout his day for the protocol.
00:45:13
Speaker
Ah yeah, he's a thing of crazy.
00:45:14
Speaker
But then there's what he does in research and what he does now, we're going to say in routine.
00:45:18
Speaker
And you take all the pills he takes, everything he eats, everything he eats, all the grams.
00:45:23
Speaker
And injections also.
00:45:24
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, injections of fat on the face, for having the peau.
00:45:28
Speaker
But then he's really in a delirium.
00:45:31
Speaker
It's a very, very, very delirious.
00:45:33
Speaker
I'm going to go to Instagram.
00:45:35
Speaker
So people say it's bad, so people are fans.
00:45:38
Speaker
I'm completely fan.
00:45:39
Speaker
I think it's a fool.
00:45:40
Speaker
But I'd like to do a little bit.
00:45:42
Speaker
I've already done a limited time, so I can't do all of it.
00:45:45
Speaker
But I've tested some of these things.
00:45:48
Speaker
And I have some of them that I do, but I'm rather than I do my own, of my own.
00:45:53
Speaker
What?
00:45:54
Speaker
After, it's a little personal.
00:45:55
Speaker
I don't know.
00:45:55
Speaker
I've already done a lot of advice.
00:45:57
Speaker
I have no idea what I have to say, it's not a financial advice, it's not a financial advice, all of us do it.
00:46:00
Speaker
And I have no idea what I have to say, I have no advice to do medical advice.
00:46:05
Speaker
I will do something and then people will try to do it and they will be blessed.
00:46:07
Speaker
If you listen to that, what is shared is purely from the personal opinion of our friend, that's my coin.
00:46:14
Speaker
But tell us, no one will engage your responsibility.
00:46:20
Speaker
For example, something I do now, but I'm going to say that I'm a crypto and that the market doesn't stop.
00:46:25
Speaker
It's in fact, you know, we talked about your regime a little circadian, like when is it going to sleep, when is it not going to sleep, and is it normal to sleep one straight, you know.
00:46:34
Speaker
And in fact, I tried to test it a little bit, because I'm a little forced, is it not possible to sleep six hours per day, you can sleep three times two hours, how to do it, because it's still a little better.
00:46:42
Speaker
But in fact, I think we're surestimate the amount of sleep that we need.
00:46:46
Speaker
Really, really, really.
00:46:47
Speaker
Because I do really very very few in the morning, for a lot of time.
00:46:51
Speaker
And in fact, if you just have just some things, I think that's really a lot of change.
00:46:56
Speaker
Like what?
00:46:56
Speaker
What's that?
00:46:57
Speaker
I think that people don't know what Netflix, YouTube, it fatigue a lot.
00:47:00
Speaker
Looking at content, it fatigue a lot.
00:47:02
Speaker
The phone, it fatigue a lot.
00:47:04
Speaker
when you consume, you're very passive in what you do, you scroll on TikTok like a zombie, I think that you're going to leave your energy, but it's inimaginable.
00:47:13
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And I think that if you're going to remove all of that, all of that you do is proactive, like you're on Twitter, or you're going to go over one hour to scroll, like that, I don't know how to do it, you're there, you're on Twitter, you're on the mecs, you retweet, you bookmark, you're on it, you discuss it, I think that stimulates your brain, but I think that, in fact, it gives you energy, I don't know how to explain the thing.
00:47:35
Speaker
There is a very simple thing in the quantic physics, where we put attention, where we put the conscience, we envoie energy.
00:47:45
Speaker
You know, this experience where you have to calculate, you know, they envoient a laser and if the laser is observed or not, it goes to different places.
00:47:59
Speaker
Ah, tu veux dire?
00:48:00
Speaker
Ça, c'est nous qui mettons notre conscience sur quelque chose.
00:48:03
Speaker
C'est exactement la même chose.
00:48:05
Speaker
Moi, je suis très porté, je suis allé assez loin dans le côté spiritualité, méditation, je médite énormément, des choses comme ça.
00:48:12
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Et il y a ces sujets de, quand tu mets ton attention quelque part, tu mets ton énergie.
00:48:16
Speaker
Donc là, si je mets mon attention dans ma main, je mets...
00:48:19
Speaker
I put energy, you feel it a little bit.
00:48:21
Speaker
It's exactly the same thing.
00:48:23
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When you're thinking about something, when you're scrolling on something, it's things to give you attention, you give you energy.
00:48:29
Speaker
So you transform into an energy.
00:48:31
Speaker
So yeah, it makes sense to you.
00:48:35
Speaker
It's fine, there's a lot of stuff around the food.
00:48:36
Speaker
I think we're going to estimate the genetic side of the food and how... When you listen to the media or what you're mainstream, you give a lot of advice.
00:48:43
Speaker
And I think it's really important to try to deconstruct and test what works on you.
00:48:49
Speaker
Because I think we all have different genetics.
00:48:52
Speaker
And so in fact, your rhythm of life is not the same, what you do not consume, it is not the same thing, you do not have the same thing, you are not completely dead after having eaten a thing.
00:49:01
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For example, I know that at the midday, I don't want to eat glucides or very very few because it is a mess, really it is a thing of crazy, I have no energy in the day after.
00:49:09
Speaker
But again, it is not a medical advice, but for example, fasting, I was really against fasting because I did not do it.
00:49:15
Speaker
when I was in France because I don't know, I had a thing of hypoglycemia bizarre, I didn't have energy and all.
00:49:21
Speaker
And then I tested a little differently, a little more square.
00:49:24
Speaker
And I really did a little dose because I'm not very convinced, I didn't have any of the things that were too bizarre.
00:49:31
Speaker
But, I tested a little and it was really bad.
00:49:34
Speaker
Comment?
00:49:35
Speaker
Intermittent du coup?
00:49:36
Speaker
Non pas tellement, en fait moi quand je dis fasting, c'est que moi avant je mangeais vraiment tout le temps, pourtant je suis assez sain, je mangeais vraiment tout le temps, ou je me posais pas de questions, et maintenant j'essayais un peu de me dire ok, parfois j'essayais de faire genre vraiment une détox pendant je sais pas, une journée je mange pas, ou vraiment que des trucs genre hyper, tu vois des fibres, low calories, moi je prends même pas de calories, je m'en fiche de ça, je fais pas de régime quoi.
00:49:55
Speaker
J'essaye de pas manger des glucides qui t'assomment, tu vois en mode tu manges des frites free, ou du poulet free, genre après t'es éclaté.
00:50:02
Speaker
So I have a thing like that.
00:50:05
Speaker
This thing of blueprint is a full-time job.
00:50:07
Speaker
And then I eat a lot of McDo, a lot of fast food and all that.
00:50:11
Speaker
You see who it is?
00:50:13
Speaker
Alex Baker?
00:50:15
Speaker
Alex Baker, yes.
00:50:18
Speaker
He me tue.
00:50:19
Speaker
And I have a lot of problems with that.
00:50:21
Speaker
I have a lot of problems because I really don't think that the solution... We're not a robot.
00:50:27
Speaker
We are not done to be optimized like machines.
00:50:30
Speaker
I think there should be a good combination of the two.
00:50:32
Speaker
If you sometimes don't want to wake up at 14am, you want to wake up at 9am, you want to not do sports and you have to be able to rest.
00:50:41
Speaker
We have a cycle.
00:50:42
Speaker
Women are a little more clear because they have the rules so they are physically.
00:50:46
Speaker
We are a little bit complicated but it's a little bit the same thing.
00:50:50
Speaker
But the thing is that people have not
00:51:24
Speaker
I said, man, it's the hell of your day.
00:51:25
Speaker
I have the feeling that it takes a max energy.
00:51:26
Speaker
I said, but it's not sense.
00:51:26
Speaker
That you do it in a sense.
00:51:26
Speaker
I think it's not bad for the young people.
00:51:28
Speaker
In the world in which we live, you can easily let go.
00:51:29
Speaker
I think it's not bad to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say,
00:51:50
Speaker
or you can test something and see how it happens.
00:51:52
Speaker
For example, you've never tested to sleep hyper fast.
00:51:56
Speaker
You can sleep hyper fast because you're not in crypto and you don't trade.
00:51:59
Speaker
Why don't you sleep hyper fast for 1 week or 2 weeks because the sleep is better to adapt.
00:52:03
Speaker
And maybe you'll realize that when you sleep before 9h, you have 3-4 hours before midnight or I don't know what, you have to sleep 10h and you have to sleep 6h.
00:52:12
Speaker
I have a friend who said, I don't know how to sleep before 9h and he does 9h per night.
00:52:19
Speaker
and I say maybe it's a little bit of a loss, he's a little bit of a sleeper and boom, he's got two hours.
00:52:24
Speaker
So I think there are things like that really are estimated.
00:52:28
Speaker
And you have to do tests.
00:52:30
Speaker
It's exactly that, in fact, you have to test things.
00:52:34
Speaker
In fact, quantitatively.
00:52:35
Speaker
Exactly, exactly.
00:52:36
Speaker
Do you have already used a Whoop or something like that?
00:52:40
Speaker
What?
00:52:41
Speaker
Whoop.
00:52:42
Speaker
Ah, no, I have a notion where I test my stuff and I try to improve my protocol on some things that I test.
00:52:48
Speaker
But it's really difficult.
00:52:50
Speaker
In fact, I think that's why I'm going to adore this sector, because I think it's even more complex than trading.
00:52:57
Speaker
Because I think you have even more variables.
00:52:58
Speaker
Ah, but yes, they are infinite, the variables.
00:53:00
Speaker
You have even more variables, you have even more, I don't know, I don't know, it's even more complex.
00:53:06
Speaker
So in fact, I'm saying, maybe it's not the next thing we'll solve.
00:53:11
Speaker
C'est une bonne idée de se faire la main sur un truc comme la finance.
00:53:15
Speaker
Et le truc que je t'ai envoyé, c'est un truc que j'utilisais à l'époque.
00:53:20
Speaker
Bracelet qui t'aide à traquer un petit peu comment tu te sens.
00:53:23
Speaker
Moi, je voulais acheter la Oura Ring.
00:53:25
Speaker
J'ai plein de copains qui ont ça ici.
00:53:27
Speaker
Mais si je commence à prendre ça, moi, le problème, c'est que le sommeil, moi, c'est une catastrophe.
00:53:31
Speaker
C'est une catastrophe de chez catastrophes.
00:53:33
Speaker
After, if you have energy, you will not be at 100% because you will not prioritize your sleep, but if you are at 70%, I don't know how URA works, but it's like that, you have your recovery.
00:53:46
Speaker
If you are at 70% recovery and that it will go, I know that, for example,
00:53:51
Speaker
I like to be in my performance zone between 85% and 100%.
00:53:55
Speaker
I don't want to be in-dessous.
00:53:57
Speaker
And so, when I pass in-dessous, I prioritize everything else.
00:54:01
Speaker
But there are people who work super well between 65% and 80% and it's all over.
00:54:06
Speaker
And each one's thing.
00:54:08
Speaker
But frankly, it's a good... Yeah, whoop, hurrah, the two, it's a good tool.
00:54:12
Speaker
And what you said, it made me think of this phrase...
00:54:17
Speaker
tough times create tough men, tough men create easy times, easy times create soft men.
00:54:22
Speaker
Et nous, on est clairement dans ce truc on... Bon, alors, les temps durs créent des hommes qui sont costauds, qui sont forts.
00:54:30
Speaker
Les hommes forts créent des temps faciles.
00:54:34
Speaker
Qui sont faciles.
00:54:35
Speaker
Et les temps faciles créent des hommes qui sont faibles.
00:54:37
Speaker
Et nous, on est clairement dans ce truc-là des hommes faibles.
00:54:40
Speaker
On sort des temps faciles, on a des hommes faibles.
00:54:43
Speaker
and you have Amazon so everything you can command you can easily find you Tinder so you can find men and women easily everything is made for our life so that it doesn't continue like that always and I think to do what you say to challenge yourself to get into a little bit for
00:55:06
Speaker
and to become a little tougher, to have a little more discipline, it's hard to do.
00:55:10
Speaker
After the life, I'm sure, the life is easy, but the competition is maybe more intense.
00:55:13
Speaker
It's intense, we won't go on.
00:55:14
Speaker
And then in fact, the life is easier, but we see a lot more things also.
00:55:18
Speaker
And it motivates you to say, I want to have that too, I want to do that, to have more experience.
00:55:23
Speaker
I think that it motivates you, but I know there are a lot of people
00:55:32
Speaker
And it motivates me also clearly, you see it's a thing that we share, but I think there are a lot of people who physically are easy, you see, our primary needs are so covered that you can have a job quite easy if you're in France or in Europe.
00:55:48
Speaker
you eat, you will find

Resilience in Economic Cycles

00:55:50
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a partner and you are quiet.
00:55:52
Speaker
After, how can these easy times create difficult times very quickly?
00:55:56
Speaker
Because in France, I think there is a little bit of a Robinet Magic in France or in Europe, but I think that the easy times are still less and less, inflation is passing by there.
00:56:11
Speaker
I think that life is more easy now because we have tools technology that simplify a lot of things but maybe that generation of our parents and our grandparents, the life is even more kicking because you were there, you had the inflation, it doesn't matter, the people do not work well, they have a lot of work at the end of the month, it's really difficult.
00:56:28
Speaker
So, is it not just in the phase where people are a little weak and it's a little in the time and it's in a little in the time and it's in a little in the time and it's in a little in the time and it's in a little in the time, it's in a little in the time, I don't know.
00:56:39
Speaker
You saw, you saw the report of Red Alio?
00:56:42
Speaker
I mean, on his thing about his cycles, etc.
00:56:45
Speaker
I don't know how it's called.
00:56:47
Speaker
I don't know how it's called.
00:56:48
Speaker
I don't know how it's called.
00:56:49
Speaker
I don't know how it's called.
00:56:51
Speaker
I don't know how it's called.
00:56:52
Speaker
I don't know how it's called.
00:56:53
Speaker
I just know that he's called an enormous crisis, not only financial, but more general, and I think everyone's going to say that it's going to be...
00:57:05
Speaker
I have a different opinion.
00:57:08
Speaker
I'm a permable person.
00:57:09
Speaker
I think that the resilience of the human being is infinite, that the human being will always be able to have a new way to find out problems, but I think that we will always find solutions.
00:57:22
Speaker
I think it's going to be very important with the permabers, especially our... In fact, I think that the marketing has a very good vibe, well, we'll say the permabers, because it's easy to get into the FUD, you know, I'm much more in the FOMO than the FUD, to get into the FUD, it's easy to get into the FUD, because at the end of the FUD, when you FUD everything, your E-V, your risk reward is very good.
00:57:46
Speaker
You're wrong, but if you're right, boom, jackpot.
00:57:48
Speaker
When you're positive, you're a gain, but sometimes you lose a lot, and people say, you're a lot of gain, and people say, you're totally wrong, but it's not a problem.
00:58:01
Speaker
So, by the way, we have a podcast in English, which is the first episode of the first episode soon.
00:58:08
Speaker
But, by the way, I think it's super possible because I have the impression that this thing of permabare... It was five years ago, when I was at school, they said that the bricks are going to be a new order order, the Chinese and American are finished, it was 10 years ago, it was finished, it was finished, we were going to eat McDonald's and speak English, we were going to talk to everything about the Chinese,
00:58:29
Speaker
You see, the Chinese are in a complete panache with their economy, the growth, it doesn't go on the immobilier, it was a huge ponzi.
00:58:36
Speaker
And finally, the Americans have a lot of pressure and they are still resilient because I think they have a lot of things that make that from a point of view micro and macro, they are super resilient.
00:58:45
Speaker
But I think we'll just...
00:58:48
Speaker
people invent themselves, it goes very quickly.
00:58:51
Speaker
I'm pretty convinced that the resilience of the human being is always finding solutions to problems.
00:58:57
Speaker
In fact, I advise you to take an experience, you take a calepin and you think when you're at college or at high school what the teachers said or what they said about what happened.
00:59:06
Speaker
Like, in 2030, there's no oil.
00:59:09
Speaker
We said that 2020 will start to have a crisis of food, there will be no longer food in the world.
00:59:12
Speaker
I don't say that there will be no problem in the world, but even in Europe, we will not be able to eat.
00:59:17
Speaker
You know, there are 50 of us, we started to say, yeah, there's an eau potable.
00:59:21
Speaker
In 2030, there's no eau potable everywhere.
00:59:22
Speaker
And finally, we found solutions.
00:59:24
Speaker
In fact, it's always the same.
00:59:25
Speaker
Okay, well, tomorrow, there's no eau potable.
00:59:27
Speaker
It's complicated.
00:59:28
Speaker
In fact, it means that the eau will be able to increase in price.
00:59:30
Speaker
Is it the fact that the eau is free for everyone, that it's free for everyone, it's normal?
00:59:36
Speaker
It's not a right to have an eau gratuite and quality.
00:59:39
Speaker
And then, it's a good thing to say that the eau becomes a commodity.
00:59:43
Speaker
So it's a value.
00:59:45
Speaker
If it's a value, it means that when people die because the eau is disgusting or because of all the pollution they have, people are dying to pay more money for not to go to their health.
00:59:54
Speaker
And so they will finance things.
00:59:56
Speaker
There are some projects that will have to be viability.
00:59:58
Speaker
and they will be able to say okay, we're going to do this, this, this, and the research that they put in place and that they finance.
01:00:02
Speaker
The idea, by the way, where I'm with you, is that the problem is that the human being tends to react a little bit too late.
01:00:08
Speaker
So if we can, it's something for limiting, let's say, the case we can't have, but I'm pretty positive there.
01:00:13
Speaker
And then I think we'll have a lot of discovery of the thing, you know, on the fusion, on the fission.
01:00:16
Speaker
Exactly, it's what I was going to say.
01:00:18
Speaker
I think that
01:00:20
Speaker
There was a moment where I had a grand-mère who was very oriented, very bio, very oriented.
01:00:27
Speaker
Really, it was absolutely recycled.
01:00:29
Speaker
My mother was absolutely the same.
01:00:31
Speaker
And in fact, now I'm aware that my impact, at the level of individual, is zero.
01:00:37
Speaker
And in addition to that, I think the only thing we need is to be an energy source.
01:00:47
Speaker
And I'm sure that the source of energy quantum energy arrives in the years.
01:00:51
Speaker
So I'm a very...
01:00:56
Speaker
on the fact that there are many things that don't go and more.
01:01:00
Speaker
France is a good example because you see the social classes that were not touched and that they were not touched and that they were not touched.
01:01:11
Speaker
And now there are more and more people who are going to manifest themselves.
01:01:16
Speaker
In the health sector, they were not touched.
01:01:18
Speaker
In other sectors, they were higher.
01:01:20
Speaker
There are no more Gilets Jaunes.
01:01:23
Speaker
And so it starts to be shit, we start to see it, but I think it will also make good things.
01:01:30
Speaker
And that's why the decentralization is there.
01:01:32
Speaker
It's just to allow us to make sure your economic and financial system, let's do our stuff that we are not going to do.
01:01:41
Speaker
There was one of the things you talked about in your video, which was... In fact, one of the things that I don't understand
01:01:52
Speaker
or what I have to imagine is how to make the balance of your portfolio.
01:01:57
Speaker
To you said, sometimes I'm on the or, sometimes I'm on the bitcoin.
01:02:00
Speaker
How do you, from your side, we'll talk personally if you do it, you do it for observing and to know, there I'm going to pass, there I'm going to pass, there I'm going to pass, there I'm going to pass, there I'm going to pass, there I'm going to pass, there I'm going to pass, there I'm going to pass, there I'm going to pass, or else.
01:02:17
Speaker
Do you want to say more on the crypto market or on the global market?
01:02:20
Speaker
global.
01:02:22
Speaker
In fact, to explain it simply, it's a good question.
01:02:25
Speaker
I would say that it's also why you want to be diversified, it's there a moment where a class active has a better risk risk, and it's easier to have an exposure to this class active.
01:02:37
Speaker
So once you have that in mind, it's to say how to do it.
01:02:40
Speaker
In fact, it's okay, we have that in mind.
01:02:44
Speaker
A class of

Market Opportunities and Risk Management

01:02:45
Speaker
active, you are more interested in Bitcoin, which is more interesting than the Bitcoin in the bullrun.
01:02:49
Speaker
And then, it's to ask how to pass from one class of active to another, to take advantage of these changes and have the risk of the change.
01:02:56
Speaker
The problem in crypto is that people focus too much on the risk and not enough on the risk.
01:03:02
Speaker
And so finally, for example, I'll give you an example of an investment, imagine an investor who achet a bitcoin, who does their DCA on bitcoin, and after three years they have done x2.
01:03:11
Speaker
Because in fact, we have access to an asset quite large, we have a lot of investors, we have a lot of investors, from people who are in RSA to people who have eight more chiffres in crypto.
01:03:21
Speaker
So we have a very large panel, and we see a very important quantity.
01:03:26
Speaker
And so in fact, we have patterns, we know how it performs, what people do, etc.
01:03:31
Speaker
And so, the people are often suresticing certain strategies in the performance.
01:03:36
Speaker
And so we see people who do a hurdle or a dessert for 2-3 years and who sort and who do a hurdle.
01:03:41
Speaker
But all this time you're exposed, you have a mental charge which is huge.
01:03:47
Speaker
And in fact, that's why your investment from a point of view of risk is not so good.
01:03:49
Speaker
So that if someone who will say, okay, I'm going to go into crypto, I'm going to take that 30% but I'm exposed to 3 months, you're exposed to 3 months, you have a small charge mental, and then you're out, you're dynamic.
01:04:00
Speaker
And so that's interesting.
01:04:01
Speaker
It's not to say, I'm going to go to this market and you're going to fight against the event.
01:04:04
Speaker
Or what you can do is build in crypto, but you tell me that on your investments you're not bad, you're not bad, you're not bad, etc.
01:04:07
Speaker
I'm a lot of doing this, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy, I'm a bad guy.
01:04:12
Speaker
But it's not simple, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it's not bad, it
01:04:31
Speaker
I think it's not to be greedy.
01:04:32
Speaker
In fact, if you think about the market, the fact that the market is not the grid, not the FUD and the FOMO, it's purely a risk.
01:04:40
Speaker
It's to say, okay, is that from a point of view, it makes sense?
01:04:43
Speaker
You think, you build your plan, and then you execute it.
01:04:47
Speaker
But then again, it's really just a financial vision.
01:04:50
Speaker
If there are people who love to have an exposition in Bitcoin, they don't know why, but because they have said that, ok.
01:04:56
Speaker
But then it's not to say, ok, I've got to look at the performance that I've done or compare it to a performance or a risk.
01:05:00
Speaker
Because it's not that you're looking for it.
01:05:03
Speaker
For example, we have clients who are there, they don't know the crypto, they say, I don't know the crypto, but I want to have the crypto.
01:05:10
Speaker
What can we do?
01:05:10
Speaker
What can we do?
01:05:11
Speaker
They don't have a goal of gaining dollars.
01:05:13
Speaker
They just want to take an exposition on this sector.
01:05:16
Speaker
And you see, in avant-girgant, I don't know if that makes sense.
01:05:19
Speaker
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes.
01:05:20
Speaker
Why didn't you not be here seven years ago when I was here to tell you all this?
01:05:24
Speaker
You talked about investment process.
01:05:26
Speaker
And clearly, it's something that the majority of people don't know about it.
01:05:34
Speaker
It's funny, it's the first cycle where I'm really going to ask this question.
01:05:38
Speaker
I have some entry and some sorties with an indicator that I'm a little bit of barème.
01:05:51
Speaker
You put your money and you put your money in your money.
01:05:55
Speaker
What do you do after?
01:05:57
Speaker
How do you do it?
01:05:58
Speaker
Do you have two or three rules of gold that would be applicable to any profile of risk investors?
01:06:06
Speaker
I have plenty but I will not share it.
01:06:09
Speaker
Okay.
01:06:10
Speaker
Yes, you will share it in my ROV.
01:06:14
Speaker
Yes, it's the but.
01:06:15
Speaker
All sign up.
01:06:16
Speaker
It's a very good question.
01:06:18
Speaker
It's a question that people ask.
01:06:20
Speaker
We'll pass on we'll pass on the part of the interview rapid fire I have a few questions I balance and you respond in a few words if you could buy an NFT that you can buy for the rest of your life what would you say a collection or an NFT?
01:06:38
Speaker
No one collection yeah yeah okay it's the first one who didn't say crypto punk or a fidenza a fidenza it's a good
01:06:47
Speaker
But it's cheap.
01:06:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's clear.
01:06:50
Speaker
If you could only take one crypto for the rest of your life.
01:06:53
Speaker
USDC.
01:06:55
Speaker
We'll go back to the next one.
01:06:57
Speaker
Or, Pax Gold.
01:06:58
Speaker
Pax Gold?
01:06:58
Speaker
What's the one?
01:06:59
Speaker
I don't know.
01:07:00
Speaker
I'd search for that.
01:07:01
Speaker
I'd go to see.
01:07:03
Speaker
And not the concern of the investment.
01:07:06
Speaker
I'd go to the point.
01:07:07
Speaker
Not the concern of the investment.
01:07:10
Speaker
I'd go to the point because it's not the concern of the investment.
01:07:13
Speaker
But there, it's for you.
01:07:15
Speaker
It's for you, personally.
01:07:17
Speaker
If you're shorting a crypto to infinity, which would be?
01:07:43
Speaker
I should say at the beginning of the rapid fire, all the answers to these questions are only entertainment.
01:07:52
Speaker
So if you would short a crypto to infinity, what would you say?
01:07:56
Speaker
XRP.
01:07:58
Speaker
Nice, good.
01:07:59
Speaker
Do you have three people with which it's a vibe the most, it's a match the most in the ecosystem in this moment?
01:08:04
Speaker
That I know?
01:08:05
Speaker
Yeah, or not.
01:08:07
Speaker
I would say that I don't know, CZ and I would say the two founders of Solana.
01:08:12
Speaker
Okay.
01:08:13
Speaker
You followed the meme coin Miro or not?
01:08:16
Speaker
No.
01:08:17
Speaker
It's my first exposure to Solana.
01:08:18
Speaker
Okay.
01:08:18
Speaker
Really, in crypto, there is a level of FOMO which is extremely important.
01:08:25
Speaker
There is a number of almost infinities.
01:08:27
Speaker
How do you think...
01:08:32
Speaker
How does a lambda learn how to diversify your opportunities?
01:08:36
Speaker
How do you choose your opportunities?
01:08:38
Speaker
How do you not get it?
01:08:40
Speaker
I think it depends on your life.
01:08:42
Speaker
Okay.
01:08:42
Speaker
And do you want to elaborate a little bit more?
01:08:45
Speaker
I think it was rapid fire.
01:08:46
Speaker
No, it's not.
01:08:47
Speaker
Okay, it's not.
01:08:48
Speaker
What I would say about that is that
01:08:51
Speaker
It's a good question, it's that often people confond diversification and I do a little bit of everything but nothing, or diversification and everything that happens, I invest in it.
01:09:01
Speaker
So I think the decision is to have a filter and to understand what type of investment you are and what your patrimoines are.
01:09:07
Speaker
Because when your patrimoines are different, you make different choices.
01:09:11
Speaker
But what I would say is that you should be able to reflect a lot like if you had a big patrimoines.
01:09:17
Speaker
in the head, for not to tell you that it's gambling, we see people who have not very high patrimoine and again, it's relative to everyone, for people, for 10,000 dollars, it's a lot of money, for others, it's nothing, so it's not to understand what you're saying about it, but it's not to think about gambling, to say, yeah, it's what, this project, I feel good, I put 1000 ball, I lose it, it's not that, yes, it's good to say that, because we invest, that's what we're going to do, but it's not to say, okay, it's to have a process,
01:09:42
Speaker
Why did I invest in this company?
01:09:43
Speaker
What does it mean?
01:09:44
Speaker
What does it mean?
01:09:45
Speaker
What does it mean?
01:09:46
Speaker
What does it mean?
01:09:47
Speaker
Because I think the big problem in crypto is the theoretical theory.
01:09:50
Speaker
It's like people who have a reason but not for the good reasons.
01:09:54
Speaker
It's very dangerous.
01:09:55
Speaker
We have people who think they're right because they've done a good job once in their lives, often by chance, and then it's complicated for them.
01:10:09
Speaker
And the idea is how you can systematically beat the market.
01:10:13
Speaker
You can't let chance, we don't let chance.
01:10:15
Speaker
We don't let chance, we let chance.
01:10:17
Speaker
And if we have chance in other ways, we can't do it.
01:10:23
Speaker
For those who listen, if you have something to retenir from all these conversations, it's so important.
01:10:30
Speaker
There are so many people who make a lot of shit projects, their goal is to manipulate our psychology.
01:10:39
Speaker
And so, you need to be a maître.
01:10:41
Speaker
And then, what I say is that, I take an example of people who make fraud.
01:10:49
Speaker
Why are the frauds so well?
01:10:49
Speaker
Because as the person knows that they are doing a fraud, everything is done for a fraud.
01:10:53
Speaker
So they will put everything in place, all the stuff, etc.
01:10:55
Speaker
So they are doing a project and are super honest, there are plenty of things they will do that they will not be done.
01:11:01
Speaker
Because in fact, the person doesn't realize that it can be a red flag, but for him he doesn't care because he says, in fact, I'm going to do the thing, etc.
01:11:07
Speaker
And in fact, it's a bit wrong in the marketing.
01:11:10
Speaker
It's to try to have a filter on the marketing, to try to see a little more on the marketing,
01:11:15
Speaker
that what is said, to really make research, to measure what's happening, and to always be able to keep the for and the for and the for, and to keep this critical, as you mentioned, for not to be pieds and pants liés in the projects,

Calculated Risks and Crypto Protocols

01:11:27
Speaker
etc.
01:11:27
Speaker
And then, I'm not against the FOMO, you know.
01:11:31
Speaker
It's not to be afraid of saying that the risk is interesting to take a risk at a moment on an ecosystem.
01:11:38
Speaker
I want to take a risk, but I do it in a certain way.
01:11:40
Speaker
If you have a board ape, you don't want to minter the shitcoin with your board ape on your Metamask because there are a chance that you get a risk.
01:11:45
Speaker
So you take a new Metamask to make sure you're doing something.
01:11:48
Speaker
And in fact, when I'm going to pose, imagine you have a board ape on your Metamask and there's a protocol DeFi that comes to be lancé.
01:11:54
Speaker
So, what is your risk of going to minter?
01:11:56
Speaker
Imagine you don't have a ledger, etc.
01:11:57
Speaker
You can do something, an interaction.
01:11:59
Speaker
At least I lose my board type, and at least I invest in my 200$ which will turn 10 000$.
01:12:02
Speaker
That's always less than my board type.
01:12:03
Speaker
So in fact, it doesn't make sense.
01:12:05
Speaker
I'm saying that because I have a friend in a long time, it's going to be like...
01:12:10
Speaker
But then it's more because he has a FOMO on a thing.
01:12:13
Speaker
But it's like that, you have to be the most... You have to be the idea.
01:12:17
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
01:12:17
Speaker
And it's true that the FOMO is not always bad because sometimes, as you said, my little kiff in this moment is the meme coins.

Controlled FOMO: Balancing Risks and Rewards

01:12:33
Speaker
it's a pump it's a little bit and I think it's cool to be able to get there but with a part of my bankroll which is very dérishable compared to my network total which is something that it's a thing that it's a lot of people who, mine of nothing they have 150 balles in their active and they will put everything in a thing in saying
01:12:54
Speaker
but there is also this thing of why not to follow a FOMO because if you risk 2% of your capital or 1% of your capital on a trade but you have a risk reward ratio of 10, 15, 20, 30 why not to go there
01:13:16
Speaker
Yeah, it's funny what I said, because I had a tweet on a shitcoin, I had a tweet on a shitcoin, I didn't know, but I had a friend who said, what's this story, and I said, I said, I said, I'm going to find out on the market, there at the instant T, a thing that's a lower risk.
01:13:25
Speaker
It's not on the market.
01:13:26
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
01:13:27
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know.
01:13:28
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know.
01:13:29
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know.
01:13:31
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
01:13:32
Speaker
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, because they've heard a thing that's because they've heard a thing that's three months after they've said that.

Influencers' Responsibility and Crypto Advice

01:13:40
Speaker
No, but it was on the blockchain?
01:13:41
Speaker
Yeah, it was on the blockchain.
01:13:42
Speaker
Okay.
01:13:44
Speaker
But I say that because I'm even more afraid of everything I say and all that because I say things on Twitter and people who send me messages and the worst thing I'm talking about is that I'm calling all in, I've done so much, next thing you call I'm calling all in.
01:14:01
Speaker
Oh my God!
01:14:02
Speaker
Ah, ce niveau de responsabilité!
01:14:05
Speaker
Non, tu as raison de faire attention à ce que tu dis et tu as raison de le dire comme ça.
01:14:09
Speaker
Et justement, c'est pour ça que je t'apprécie, c'est parce que tu... Tu as un peu une grande gueule, tu dis les choses et tu parles de ce que tu fais, tu parles de toi et tu as confiance et c'est trop cool parce que de l'autre côté, on sent que tu es réglo, on sent que tu es droit dans tes baskets, on sent que tu...
01:14:28
Speaker
you have really at heart the good-being of the people who are listening and listening to the content that you are really important in that you are allowing to use content strategies that are a little bit more mainstream than the majority of the people who are in the sector of the financial sector but that at the same level of due diligence and attention to the people who are listening to it it's
01:14:52
Speaker
for me it's one of the most green flags in terms of you and in terms of Merov and again once I do that plug Merov since the beginning of the thing because it's your project because I have access to you so I see what's going on it's not financial advice I don't say to you but who has integrated a community of investment francophone autant that it is with people who
01:15:21
Speaker
They're not there for their own, and they need to be really careful with the people

Personal Research in Crypto Investments

01:15:26
Speaker
who compose it.
01:15:26
Speaker
I think you've really done it.
01:15:28
Speaker
You've done it really well.
01:15:29
Speaker
And it's why, of course, we're not the kings of marketing.
01:15:33
Speaker
We're not marketers.
01:15:34
Speaker
We don't know how to do that.
01:15:37
Speaker
optimal, but that's also for people to do their research, to do their own, to really, to avoid it.
01:15:43
Speaker
Because in crypto, it's also something that you can't forget and that's what we're doing, and that's what we're doing.
01:15:50
Speaker
It's a lot that it costs very much to not listen to the good people.
01:15:53
Speaker
It's not for citing or not to criticize some YouTubers or I don't know what, but I remember the last time I was a friend who was a member of the club who was envoying a video and he said, you saw this video, it looked incredible, you saw this coin, it looked incredible, but we saw the thing.
01:16:08
Speaker
99% chance, the YouTuber is sponsored, the project is really not good.
01:16:14
Speaker
And if you listen to this guy, it's really a requin.
01:16:17
Speaker
And that people are not there for your good health and your good health mental health, your good health health, so you have to be careful.

Skepticism Towards Sponsored Content

01:16:27
Speaker
and well do things, well do things, well do things, and then it will end up paying.
01:16:30
Speaker
But what's the most interesting thing is that those who do things well in the crypto are very very well recompensable.
01:16:37
Speaker
It's good to listen, well do things, well do things, and then you'll be able to do it.
01:16:40
Speaker
You just need to be patient.
01:16:41
Speaker
You need to be patient and you need to be careful.
01:16:44
Speaker
As you said earlier, I found out a book called Skin in the Game, which is the last book of Taleb, and one of the things he says is
01:16:54
Speaker
when someone talks about something, you can see the incentive that this person has to talk about this thing.
01:17:02
Speaker
And just to look at the networks, how much the person in front of you is animating by the incentive to give you a real value or to give you a real value?
01:17:14
Speaker
And frankly,
01:17:17
Speaker
There are many content creators where you spend 5 minutes on their chain and you see that what they are doing is to sell attention to the advertisers.
01:17:28
Speaker
But if you had to do the certificate necessary for entering the crypto, there would be this component
01:17:39
Speaker
Yeah, it's a critical point to all the information that you consume when you consume.
01:17:45
Speaker
Yeah, no, no, no,
01:18:03
Speaker
It's not gratuite, but it's not that people live, it's not that they're a business model.
01:18:06
Speaker
So if you don't pay anything, there's a reason.
01:18:09
Speaker
The guys will shield all the projects because they're paid on it.
01:18:12
Speaker
The projects that pay a very often, they're not the best.
01:18:14
Speaker
You can't even say, there are all projects that I know that they pay a lot of ads.
01:18:19
Speaker
If I was a leader, I'd be curious to test you.
01:18:22
Speaker
on wreck les projets avec le budget ads qu'ils font sur Twitter, des personnes produits etc et après on regarde la différence ça serait une belle expérience mais ouais c'est ce qu'on dit souvent aux gens il faut comprendre que ça a un coût de se former, ça a un coût de faire plein de choses et que voilà quoi ouais c'est clair
01:18:38
Speaker
What do you have against the DCA and the Harlow?

Challenges of DCA in Crypto

01:18:41
Speaker
Well, in fact, what I would like to say is that it's not a strategy that's a game.
01:18:45
Speaker
In fact, on the paper, it's a strategy really optimal but complete.
01:18:48
Speaker
And it's the principle that really it's necessary to be able to get the active relatively high enough for that.
01:18:53
Speaker
All the people who have done DCA, I don't know, on the Shanghai Index, it's 20 years that they have the money that is a stable coin.
01:19:00
Speaker
So it's a very big problem.
01:19:02
Speaker
And in addition to that, we see in the club, no one has no idea who does it do it in the good way.
01:19:06
Speaker
Because it's always the same, you're in the FUD, you're in the FOMO, you really need to do it.
01:19:10
Speaker
Because at a moment, you're in the FUD, you're in the FOMO, you're going to have a big amount of drawdown, because to make a DSA, it's going to be able to say that at a moment, you're going to be down 70%, you know, you're going to have a panic, you're going to have a big amount of crypto with Luna, which will really put you in question.
01:19:24
Speaker
And we see, all of the people who are going to do DSA or who are going to do this investment in crypto, they're people who have very big amount in crypto.
01:19:32
Speaker
Because they can say, okay, I have 5 million in crypto, I have a million that I do a little more on the long term, or I try to time a little bit the market, and then, you know.
01:19:40
Speaker
But it's reserved to very few people.
01:19:41
Speaker
And that, finally, you know, you're a little bit of a rien.
01:19:44
Speaker
It's a little like saying, why are you against people who leave their money on their library?
01:19:50
Speaker
because your livre-in you are not going to give up 1% I don't know how many times, 2%, that inflation is going to 5% and that it's not that that will change something.
01:19:56
Speaker
So let's go on your account bank account and it would be the same.
01:20:01
Speaker
It's that the thing.
01:20:01
Speaker
It's to say that there are people who try to get there, to be a little active, to do a little stuff and that in plus you are always the same.
01:20:08
Speaker
It's the models who have the peau dure.
01:20:09
Speaker
It's to say that people talk about the Bitcoin and Ethereum in the last years but people who have done a DCA
01:20:15
Speaker
You know, I don't know, XRP the three years, LTC the three years, because we're not all in 2015, we're in crypto.
01:20:19
Speaker
There are very few people who are in 2015.
01:20:20
Speaker
So, a person who is in 2019, well, 2020, who has done this on the three years, and I think that his price is going to be at, okay, I think, at the 40,000 dollars, imagine.
01:20:34
Speaker
The BTC goes to 80k, imagine that this person is selling in all 80k dollars, this person is doing x2, that's incredible, but for what suffering, what transpiration, etc.
01:20:45
Speaker
It's also that it's really important and it's not to be neglected.
01:20:48
Speaker
In which case would you do you do DCA?
01:20:51
Speaker
In which case would you do DCA?
01:20:52
Speaker
I don't do that anymore.
01:20:56
Speaker
In that case, is it a bit more okay to do that when you don't have your skills?
01:21:02
Speaker
In fact, if I have a friend who tells me, I want to do DCA because every month I earn money and every month I earn money.
01:21:08
Speaker
Okay, very good, but you can't have... In fact, very often, you don't have a problem, but people often have expectations, they have an expectation.
01:21:15
Speaker
of the crypto market.
01:21:16
Speaker
If you have a lot of expectations on the crypto market, but you do not want to do the drop, you do not want to give value from a point of view, you do not want to do projects, research, take risk, invest in projects that are young, etc.
01:21:29
Speaker
In crypto, the crypto market will be a lot of people who take risks, who are a risk taker.
01:21:35
Speaker
That's completely crazy.
01:21:36
Speaker
The whole world is a rich stock.
01:21:39
Speaker
People who are in the business and are in billions of dollars companies in five years imagine.
01:21:45
Speaker
One person has created more than one billion dollars in five years.
01:21:49
Speaker
It's completely crazy.
01:21:50
Speaker
So the world is a rich stock.
01:21:52
Speaker
So it's to you to tell you what risk I take.
01:21:55
Speaker
Because we have plenty of members who say yes I do my DCA.
01:21:58
Speaker
What is your goal?
01:21:59
Speaker
It's to end up with crypto.
01:22:02
Speaker
But with the UDCA it's complicated.
01:22:04
Speaker
But there are things more intelligent to do.
01:22:06
Speaker
It's to say, are you going to time the market?
01:22:08
Speaker
And in addition to the problem with the UDCA, it's that people don't have to accumulate.
01:22:12
Speaker
So you talk about the UDCA on the PTC, but we have the number of people who come to the club and say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, since 2018.
01:22:19
Speaker
And I'm going to say, how much is it?
01:22:21
Speaker
I'm going to say, I'm going to say,
01:22:26
Speaker
I don't know what I'm saying to CRP, it's just an example because I'm going to be able to make it up and insult me.
01:22:31
Speaker
But in addition to DCA, you don't have any point of exit.
01:22:34
Speaker
So you're where?
01:22:35
Speaker
You're where?
01:22:36
Speaker
You're where?
01:22:37
Speaker
You're where you're at.
01:22:38
Speaker
So you're at the top, you're at the DCA, you're at the DCA, you're at the base, you're at the thing, you're at the chameau.
01:22:42
Speaker
And if a day, the BTC is missing, you're at all.
01:22:44
Speaker
So you've spent 50 years on DCA, the BTC is missing, boom, you're at all.
01:22:48
Speaker
It's a bit weird like a strategy.
01:22:50
Speaker
And then again, you have all the YouTubers who are talking about my strategy DCA, where they started to DCA at the bottom.
01:22:56
Speaker
And then... Oh, the guys, it's really... In fact, I've been doing it because they've started to pay for every video.
01:23:03
Speaker
People talk about internet, they say a lot of things, but we see it.
01:23:07
Speaker
We see hundreds of investors.
01:23:09
Speaker
We see hundreds of investors pass.
01:23:11
Speaker
And even people who have 8% of the chiffres are not necessarily sophisticated.
01:23:14
Speaker
But we see them pass, we ask them what they did before, what they did now, what they can do after, etc.
01:23:18
Speaker
for improving.
01:23:19
Speaker
And so we see the results.
01:23:20
Speaker
For example, if we have an investor in the club, it's been since 2014 that he was in crypto.
01:23:25
Speaker
It would have been so much for having done the dessert.
01:23:29
Speaker
But so much, so much.
01:23:31
Speaker
It's so much, it's a crazy thing.
01:23:33
Speaker
Because since 2014, the DCA... Yeah, almost.
01:23:34
Speaker
I've said the previous one, he said, no, I'm not well out.
01:23:37
Speaker
So after he's out 40,000 times, because he had enough money.
01:23:40
Speaker
Because it's always the same, people make the DCA, they're bad grossing, and they're always the money.
01:23:45
Speaker
You have always the money when it's the most low market, because recession, because the market is low, it's because there's a good reason.
01:23:52
Speaker
So you can buy your crypto to the most low.
01:23:53
Speaker
It's that's the reality.
01:23:54
Speaker
And people can say, no, we're watching, we're watching a centaine of investors, we're watching.
01:23:59
Speaker
You see, I have a friend who sold the BTC very low because he had enough money, because he had a credit immobilier that he could pay, he had a credit card and he sold his Bitcoin under 30,000 dollars.
01:24:08
Speaker
And so it's interesting to say, we've passed the most big market, we've passed the most in stablecoin, we've been diversified from the right to the left, why not go a little bit on other markets, etc.
01:24:19
Speaker
And then I'll be back in crypto.
01:24:22
Speaker
And then if you think you're in crypto for a long term, you want to really take a look at BTC, it's at 40k dollars,
01:24:31
Speaker
you look at the analysis, etc.
01:24:33
Speaker
next cycle, I don't know, we don't know how to finance it, but imagine that it's still x3.
01:24:37
Speaker
Okay, but the BTC is x3.
01:24:39
Speaker
How many of you will be able to capture this x3?
01:24:43
Speaker
If you're 1,5% and you're 50% of the perth, the people want to become rich in crypto.
01:24:46
Speaker
It's a promise that you don't want to go out.
01:24:49
Speaker
So I'd say why not invest in startups crypto, to do a little bit of stuff.
01:24:54
Speaker
What's that is very true, I think, is that there are a lot of people who pretend that crypto is the financial freedom without talking about this reality that for that it is not just...

Active Participation in Crypto Opportunities

01:25:12
Speaker
What I say more and more about my project, I'm going to launch a decentralized project.
01:25:18
Speaker
It's just the right entry.
01:25:19
Speaker
It's the right entry that allows you to participate more and to find real opportunities.
01:25:25
Speaker
That's what you seem to say.
01:25:26
Speaker
It's too important what you say.
01:25:28
Speaker
I hope you listen well.
01:25:30
Speaker
Before we go...
01:25:36
Speaker
There are very good advice for how to manage financially.
01:25:42
Speaker
I can tell you, before moving on a bit longer term, why are you so much fan of CloneX and Artifact?
01:25:50
Speaker
In real, I did a few days ago, it was super simple, I could respond to one phrase.
01:25:56
Speaker
It's just too much.
01:25:57
Speaker
Find something where you have an application crypto, where I have a mint for the shoes.
01:26:02
Speaker
It's cool, you have your MetaMask, you forge, you get your real life.
01:26:05
Speaker
It's good, you know, there's a lot of stuff.
01:26:07
Speaker
It's also cool to have a thing in the real life.
01:26:11
Speaker
For me, typically, the Metaverse, I don't understand the delirium.
01:26:16
Speaker
You know, I got a little bit of a skeptic and dubitatif.
01:26:19
Speaker
Because it's cool, in fact, the Metaverse is cool, but to say, I'm going to buy a pair of shoes at 300$ for the Metaverse,
01:26:25
Speaker
Wow, that's a very good point of view, but I think it's just cool.
01:26:32
Speaker
I think that all the merch is super cool.
01:26:37
Speaker
And in fact, it's a pleasure to see a project deliver really things and that's what I mean.
01:26:46
Speaker
Clonex is so good at the ecosystem, you can see all the people who are trying to talk about crypto, from a cool side, and not only investment, bitcoin, I do the DCA bitcoin, so I think it's incredible.
01:26:54
Speaker
I think it's amazing that it's not a thing where we can put a jauge of adoption, how many people contribute to adoption on the market and that they are really compensated on this, because it's just too important.
01:27:09
Speaker
on would have to do a meta-air drop between all the projects yeah I mean you would have to do that in fact it would be that the industry is to do it all and that we put more in front of the projects in fact it's not for clasher certain projects NFT again I don't speak about investment I just speak of pure feeling in fact there are a lot of projects they do nothing they do nothing they do nothing they do nothing
01:27:27
Speaker
There is nothing real, there is nothing real, there

Crypto Integration with Real-world Applications

01:27:31
Speaker
is nothing real.
01:27:31
Speaker
Stop it guys.
01:27:32
Speaker
You have raised thousands of ifs, do something cool, or have a vision for people.
01:27:38
Speaker
So that's what I like about Clonex.
01:27:41
Speaker
I have a lot of people who are not fans of design.
01:27:44
Speaker
That's what I can understand.
01:27:46
Speaker
It's not for everyone.
01:27:48
Speaker
but it's very cheap, it's very cheap but I think it's good, you can put the last shoe you can put it even if you don't have a clone and then, is it going to be the best investment?
01:27:59
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no
01:28:16
Speaker
It's the cross between streetwear and video games, which are a bit of a bit of a privilege category and who have, mine of nothing, capacity of investment and consumption.
01:28:28
Speaker
They do things mega stylized.
01:28:32
Speaker
Nike has not made a lot of acquisition in his history.
01:28:36
Speaker
and Nex and Jordan and Converse are two other brands.
01:28:40
Speaker
When you see the revend price of some fringes, in general, when you go to StockX, you see these companies revend thousands of thousands of dollars.
01:28:58
Speaker
because people like to collect things which are stylized and it's not that Artifact is doing things which are really stylized and the only way to get them is to have a CloneX so there are only 20,000 people in the world there are more people who are fans of Streetwear I...
01:29:14
Speaker
I have to see when people in gaming and in the streetwear will wake up and see that this brand exists and I ask what's going on.
01:29:23
Speaker
I ask how it will react.
01:29:25
Speaker
Yeah, it's true.
01:29:26
Speaker
There are also many other projects that are cool or that have a different approach.
01:29:30
Speaker
I don't want to do name dropping, but there are many other projects that are cool.
01:29:36
Speaker
I think that the performance is a bit better.
01:29:40
Speaker
But yeah, the project is cool.
01:29:42
Speaker
But I haven't seen it like that, what you said.
01:29:45
Speaker
I don't know if it's going to be a business model, it's complicated, it's a lot of money.
01:29:49
Speaker
I don't know.
01:29:50
Speaker
I'm curious to know.
01:29:51
Speaker
Even if you're on the last drop, how much it will cost you, how much they'll cost you, how much they'll cost you.

Inclusivity in Crypto Communities

01:29:58
Speaker
I'm not sure, but I don't know.
01:29:58
Speaker
I'm not sure that Nike is pushing a little bit
01:30:06
Speaker
You see, they were really criticized it a few months ago because, normally, CloneX would be the grail, and so when you're a CloneX, you're more or less gratis, even if everyone accepted to have a fringes that are of a such quality that you don't have to be gratis.
01:30:25
Speaker
And there was a little bit this thing, when you're a CloneX, you should have access to that.
01:30:32
Speaker
And in fact, on the last drop, and it's Ruskov who said that in Discord, and I thought it was pretty cool to have a part limited to the Holder of Clonix and a part ouvert, because the items reserved are more sought after.
01:30:52
Speaker
I don't understand that I really don't understand crypto.
01:30:54
Speaker
For me it's two things.
01:30:55
Speaker
First, you want to open the most possible because you have new users, potentially new people who want to buy a clone.
01:31:00
Speaker
So in fact, it's the reason why crypto people want to stay between them.
01:31:03
Speaker
There's nothing to do, it's really a thing that I don't understand.
01:31:06
Speaker
And then it's the other thing, it's the classic crypto for me.
01:31:10
Speaker
In fact, there's a real thing on the way you build, the more you build, the more you're doing the haine.
01:31:15
Speaker
It's really a thing.
01:31:17
Speaker
It's a thing I don't understand.
01:31:19
Speaker
I have a friend who has a collection of NFT, and I said, what do you think about these things?
01:31:23
Speaker
He said, yeah, Clonex, it's a scam.
01:31:26
Speaker
These things are super hard.
01:31:27
Speaker
I said, why do you say that?
01:31:29
Speaker
I said, you have a collection.
01:31:31
Speaker
You have a collection.
01:31:32
Speaker
You have a collection.
01:31:34
Speaker
There are three tweets every month, the guy who doesn't want to do a collab or something where there's nothing to do.
01:31:40
Speaker
And when I'm in the middle of the head, I'm not sure what's happening.
01:31:43
Speaker
And the guy was like, I'm not sure what you're doing.
01:31:45
Speaker
So you can't judge or you can't criticize it.
01:31:47
Speaker
I think the people have really a easy critique or want to do everything.
01:31:52
Speaker
You talked about the risk.
01:31:53
Speaker
You talked about the risk.
01:31:55
Speaker
Artifact, the risk of risk.
01:31:55
Speaker
Yeah, it's maximum.
01:31:56
Speaker
The risk of risk.
01:32:00
Speaker
impact quantitative and quantity of risk pris, it's true there is no

Crypto Investment Club: Support and Guidance

01:32:08
Speaker
more.
01:32:08
Speaker
Let's talk a little bit, or not quickly, explain a little bit more about how it works, the benefits you have when you enter, the different levels of benefits.
01:32:19
Speaker
We have a club of crypto investors,
01:32:23
Speaker
where the goal is to accompany investors with our approach to crypto and what we believe and what we do.
01:32:28
Speaker
So as I said, it's quite large for the people who are in the club.
01:32:32
Speaker
We already have the mayor offs for the mayor of 20 years.
01:32:36
Speaker
So once you're in the club, you have a circuit to do.
01:32:39
Speaker
on
01:33:00
Speaker
in terms of what type of investment you are, your profile, how much you are in crypto, what are your objectives, what are you going to do to pass, etc.
01:33:06
Speaker
They will be a little less, a little more.
01:33:09
Speaker
You will say, I'm going to pass more time on the block 2, the block 2, others on the block 4, etc.
01:33:13
Speaker
I'm going to pass the block for a little bit of a mystery because people just come to discover them.
01:33:18
Speaker
And so, these people are a little bit of their journey.
01:33:20
Speaker
We have people who are there who don't have passive passive, who want to be hyper active, to farm the airdrop.
01:33:25
Speaker
So we have to create the best vision for the airdrop.
01:33:28
Speaker
So it's pretty cool.
01:33:32
Speaker
And the but is to help and help them the best possible.
01:33:35
Speaker
And also to help them the best possible because more they help us, more we get to do things, more we grow and more we can also bring value to them.
01:33:42
Speaker
It's cool with partners,
01:33:45
Speaker
There are plenty of products that we can put in place, etc.
01:33:48
Speaker
So it's a bit of it, to create a family, a club where we can all try to train.
01:33:52
Speaker
Nothing magic again, you can go through and try to take the time.
01:33:57
Speaker
But I think what's interesting is that the level of personalization that we can have
01:34:02
Speaker
It's very important.
01:34:03
Speaker
If you want to bombard it, you can bombard it, there's a lot to do.
01:34:08
Speaker
I think that's it that's what we're doing.
01:34:10
Speaker
And I think that now it's what we're doing in the club.
01:34:14
Speaker
It's a great part of it because they want to follow us.
01:34:16
Speaker
And they know that we only do that, and then it will lead us to other points.
01:34:19
Speaker
So they say, I want to follow us.
01:34:20
Speaker
And they want to follow us.
01:34:21
Speaker
So I think that's it.
01:34:23
Speaker
That's it.
01:34:27
Speaker
I validement, in all of a sudden.
01:34:29
Speaker
It's a very good thing to go.
01:34:31
Speaker
But anyway, for someone who has listened to it just now, I'm sure it's complicated to say no, I don't want to go deeper into what this guy is.
01:34:39
Speaker
Go ahead, last question.
01:34:40
Speaker
What is your plan for generating more than a billion dollars to the next bullrun, since it's your goal of 1000 millionaires?
01:34:51
Speaker
It's true that I haven't done the calculation that 1000 x 1000, yeah, 1000 x 1 million, it's true.
01:34:56
Speaker
It's true that it was like that, it was extremely difficult.
01:35:00
Speaker
So, with the Pump Solana, we've been able to get a lot of millionaires.
01:35:04
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So it's already the first milestone of the fates, we'll say.
01:35:07
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Franchement, I think that we're going to improve each week, to get it done the best possible.
01:35:15
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You know, the errors that we've made before the past, we can't get them to improve.
01:35:19
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But you know, like it's a startup, and then even on the trading, we progress every day and every week, we're going to improve and continue to be in a hyper proactive.
01:35:29
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So I would say that we would continue to do what we do, to find more time, it's the most difficult, the most difficult, the most difficult, the most difficult time.
01:35:38
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And then it's going to be to create a movement, to have more and more people who come to help us, to meet many people brillants, to find other people who have other approaches to investment and trading, which will also provide a lot of value.

Scaling Impact and Future Products

01:35:53
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and that we will try to scale.
01:35:56
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After all, in crypto, it's also a lot of... I provoked my chance.
01:36:00
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We are saying that many members are saying that there are people who work, who are a little hustle, who do a lot of things.
01:36:06
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At a moment, you develop your chance and you will have this positive positive rate which happens relatively quickly.
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And we, after the idea, it's how our investors who have that, we help them to
01:36:16
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to avoid this positive accident of richness, to really keep it, to optimize it, to work and then to advance it.
01:36:22
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But we have really great ambitions, there are plenty of things we want to do, really plenty of things we want to do, not to be able to do anything with crypto, to accompany investors on other markets, because we think there are plenty of investors who need to help us.
01:36:37
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And so,
01:36:38
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I propose always more products, and then we work on new products, which are really different approach to other products, which will bring a lot of value to our investors, to those who trust us.
01:36:49
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So that's really the goal at the end of the day.
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So it's really what we do.
01:36:52
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So we try to diversify more, to bring value to other products, and to have this effect of the réseau that we put in place.
01:36:58
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Great!
01:36:58
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If you have listened to today, first thing, don't forget to follow the podcast everywhere,

Engaging with Decentralized Podcast

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like it, comment it.
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And share it in mass.
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And share it in mass.
01:37:09
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And share it in mass, of course.
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And don't forget that it's a podcast that is decentralized.
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01:37:28
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I think that's a good thing to follow.
01:37:31
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He already does his own pre-reviews.
01:37:33
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There's the bull market that's not really long.
01:37:36
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So if you want to take a look at it, follow us.
01:37:39
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Go on the side of Merov.
01:37:40
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I think there are some cool things to do there.
01:37:42
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Julien, a little last word.
01:37:48
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I would say we should follow a little bit everywhere and try to be proactive in the ecosystem, not passive, but proactive.
01:37:55
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Thank you for this.
01:37:56
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Thank you for all of us, thank you for all of us who are just here, frankly.
01:37:59
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I would say that at the end, a key word for the people who are here to say, if you send us a gift, you have a key word for us.
01:38:05
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If you send us a gift, you could do it.
01:38:07
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If you send us a gift, you could not have a key word in your group?
01:38:11
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But for you, for this conversation.
01:38:13
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If you send me a 20-1, one of us two, on will try to find a gift that we can make.
01:38:17
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A gift that we can give you.
01:38:18
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All right, let's do it.
01:38:19
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Let's see you next time, guys.
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And the girls.
01:38:21
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See you soon.