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Cryptomath, créateur d’une communauté NFT insensible au bear market
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The Cryptomath est une figure phare du Crypto Français, d’abord investisseur dans le Bitcoin puis créateur de contenu, il est ensuite devenu le créateur d’une des communautés NFT les plus respectées au monde : The Cryptomasks.
On parle du futur du Web3, de comment réussir dans la création de contenu en restant fidèle à soi-même et de comment créer la meilleure communauté NFT possible qui ne sera pas affectée par les conditions de marché.
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Introduction: The First French Episode
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Hello everyone, welcome to the Polymath Experience or the experience Polymath.
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I am Polymath and today it is a little special moment because it is our first episode in French.
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It is an honor to be doing this first with my guest today.
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He is one of the rare people who seem to be respected in a universe of way.
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He is part of the most integral of our ecosystem and he created
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The only NFT community is the only NFT community that seems to not be affected by the conditions of the market.
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This community is a masterclass when it comes to the creation of an organization decentralized.
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And it is also an incredible humility and it is not very rare to my own, in any case, although it should be heard by everyone.
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It's a real honor to have today.
Cryptomath's Journey into Crypto
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Cryptomath, welcome.
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Thank you Polymath for this presentation.
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It's a real pleasure to be with you.
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Thank you very much.
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Now it's a moment that we interagis.
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I'm a person who follows for a long time and then the relationship started to be double-sense when I was contacted for my project two years ago.
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But for all this time, despite some calls, I always say,
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It's really interesting, this guy is who?
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Can you tell us more about who you were before Cryptomath?
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I'm going to say, in the meantime, I changed a lot of career because I had a chance to be able to travel a lot.
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So I have not only, if you want, this fiber entrepreneurial, since the end of my studies, I created my own, I started on the creation of several different sites in many different activities, where I touched a little bit of everything, and I had a chance to be able to travel a lot.
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throughout these years.
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And so it allows me to have an open mind that is perhaps quite interesting.
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It's been very long time that I feel something that's going on in the new monetary system.
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Since the money is becoming money fiduciary, I feel something that's going on and I was hoping to have this open mind.
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It's what I've discovered with Bitcoin.
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We talked about Bitcoin a few years before I really plonge it, without I really understand the sense of this revolution.
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And when I discovered it, I was interested in it.
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I spent a lot of time to go search information.
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At the beginning, there was not a lot of information in French, so it was really interesting to search information at the source.
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Who I was before in a few phrases and who I could become, thanks to all the experiences that
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that I have been living all over these years before the crypto-money.
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And by curiosity, it's always a bit delicate because, of course, we want to preserve the anonymity, so we need to be careful at what we say.
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Do you want to tell more about these entrepreneurial adventures?
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In which market, in which sector?
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How did it happen?
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Because I really see you today something that I aspire to because what you do is a success.
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What you do is measure.
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Everything looks really well done with a lot of conscience.
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And so, the journey
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which you are not like that, for the majority, for the most people, we are with a little bit of work to do before you realize.
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And you seem to be very aligned with yourself, and so I'm curious about your past experiences, how they went through, what it was about, and what you learned about it.
Entrepreneurial Insights and Community Building
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Well, for a little bit of the table, I touched a little bit of all the domains that I judged prometteurs at the moment.
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I made a lot of cash-in-vente auprès of professionals.
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It's a lot of things at the start of the school.
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And then I started to ask what's going on, what's going on, what's going on, what's going on.
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I created a site in the beginning of the domain.
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It was a pretty good thing.
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I was in a good mood.
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Then I did a little bit of telephony, I also did medical, as well as people who had the capacity to do it.
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So I think that today we can really touch everything.
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It's not because we have a mechanical training that we can't be able to do something artistic.
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I think that we can really start everything.
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We can really start everything.
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little to little, but also in entrepreneurship, I think it's just to be able to get into it.
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From the moment where you have a certain degree of management, it's just to get into it of people competent in their domain, who, finally, these people will learn the job.
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When you don't come to this job, you learn with
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with people who know the job.
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And then, we can really touch a little bit to everything.
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When I was in the medical, I had no idea.
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You know, I have no baggage.
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But to entour a company, it remains an enterprise and all the companies are gelled in the same way.
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It's very nice.
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You said things that are very nice from a moment ago.
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For the project Cryptomas, it was still something.
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It's a passion, it's a heart, it's a community project.
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I did before everything, to help to fund a community around a project.
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For the moment, it's actually going well.
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Now it's the same.
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It's never going to be reposed on its laurels.
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We pass the second with the project, but it will not help you to keep the essence
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and to always be able to keep the holders of these collections at all.
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And that's what I'm going to do and what I'm going to do with the next years.
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Because there are great ambitions, I have great projects for this project.
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for these collections and others, because we are developing a galaxy.
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So it's another thing.
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We are at that, of course, because we have the chance to have a incredible community.
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You talked earlier about everything is done, everything is done, everything is done as it is needed.
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I wake up the morning and I wake up the morning, but I'm thinking about it.
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all the adjustments, all the adjustments, all the things that are very natural, are not necessarily calculated.
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I think things are coming at a good moment, they're coming well.
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That's also a force and a chance that we have.
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That's super impressive.
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And from my experience, what you describe here, the way it's happening and the way it's happening naturally and organic,
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It's something that's not innate because you have to trust that things will happen when you let them happen.
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Because for example, what I find very beautiful is the capacity you've had to create the foundation and to make the house more or less built by itself.
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And you've made the adjustments where it was necessary.
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You've played the real work in the work.
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Without doing the plumber, without doing the plumber, without doing the maçonneries.
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You see what I mean?
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And that needs a confidence in you and a confidence in the people who you entourage, which is impressive.
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Yes, I think it's the role of a founder, of being the maître of the orchestra, of being the orchestra.
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It's really the role of a founder.
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It's been a great confidence in me, it's a great thing.
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And I'm entourated by people in the team.
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Today, it's been a start, the adventure started.
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It's the first time I created my own Discord server.
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I was already going to surf on Discord because with all the NFT movement that precedes you have not the choice if you want to follow a little bit the projects of being on Discord.
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It's like that I discovered Discord.
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I'm from Telegram.
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I've always been on Telegram.
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The group Cryptomas is born on Telegram.
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So I didn't have any skills in Discord.
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Everything started.
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I created the server.
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I'm teasing a little bit the fact that something happened.
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The day when the server Discord was open,
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There were a lot of people who joined the server in the first minutes.
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A good part was issued by the Telegram community, the Telegram channel The Cryptomass.
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It is important to know that the channel is open since 2017.
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So there are also many people who are on the top of it.
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From the beginning, we have not had that people who came out of a hype, but a hype that is very punctual, but there are many people who joined us, people who were on the channel for years,
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And we had the chance to have a lot of different profiles, a panel of levels also very different.
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There were some beginners, some more beginners, some more confirmed and then some experts.
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It is also important to know that the project was like this, around experts.
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They play a very important role in the project, finally.
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I was in contact with the most of the time.
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I thought about the project like that.
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I thought it was necessary to have a community, and also to have experts who can come and answer to the questions well-known, and to be involved in the project.
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I had the chance to have all these ingredients, if you want, who were reuniting.
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At the opening of the Discord, there was nothing calculated, nothing professional at all.
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And then everything is built.
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I asked who is going to be a moderator.
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We have all of a sudden 10 or 15 moderators on Discord.
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And then, at the time, some are partying, some have joined us.
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And then, today, we have the chance to have a team, a team of 20, a little more than 20 people.
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The team of Project CryptoMask, without counting the experts, we talk about people who are
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They work, they give their time for the project.
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And all of this is built in a very natural way.
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There was really needed, once the light is all done, that's not directed, it's really... It's really... It's really... It's built, it's built, it's built, it's built, because everything is...
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Everything is built by the community.
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That's great.
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And we'll be talking a little bit about the topic of cryptomass, because it's obviously the number of times I've spoken to people I've met.
The Value of Genuine Community Engagement
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Do you remember Adam, who has a podcast on which Parzival seemed to be all?
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Okay, Adam Alder, Adam Alder, exactly.
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C'est ça, exactement.
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Et ce mec-là, il a acheté un CryptoMask parce que pour développer son podcast, je lui avais dit, si tu veux trouver la meilleure communauté, le meilleur minimum viable community, un peu, il faut que tu ailles chez le CryptoMask.
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he told me, I believe that at the time the floor was at what he was today, 0,4, he told me, why not, but it's a little expensive and all, two weeks later he was able to buy a crypto mask.
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It's great, I didn't know it.
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It's an evident, and so we'll come back to it again.
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I would like to return because we don't become the CryptoMath in a year.
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And as you said, the Telegram channel exists since 2017.
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And there are people who would like to listen to us who would like to have the success story, for not to call it another way, that you have.
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Do you remember when you started, in your beginning of this adventure in particular, of decision-making strategies
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that you've taken the best to make you progress in the good sense and that someone who you listen to today could benefit?
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There are two things.
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I think there are two approaches.
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There is the approach where you say, I want to make a subscriber or followers or whatever the channel, and the approach where you say, I prefer to have less people but, finally, a real community.
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And I, since the beginning, chose this solution.
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the last solution that seemed the most correct and the most just.
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You know, in 2017, 2018, it was calm in 2018, but from 2020, 2021, the number of projects that contact you to say, you're going to put in front my thing, I'm going to pay you, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that.
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I've always refused, if you want.
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Since my beginning, I've always refused, including the platforms.
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At the beginning, it was a lot of
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I've always wanted to avoid all these publicities, all these exchanges with people who I didn't know seriously and that I couldn't verify.
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So I always wanted to preserve the community Cryptomas in avoiding the promos, the pubs, etc.
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The only thing I wanted, it wasn't a lot at the beginning, but the Americans were friands, it was cross-promotion.
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And in this case, I was looking for other people who had
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There was a Telegram channel, and we made a close promotion in saying, there was a Telegram channel that was good to follow.
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He posted the same thing on his side, and then finally added a little bit of people, and it made it discover other media or mediums which were interesting.
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But I always wanted to be very verified.
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I was doing great research before I shared this kind of thing.
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I think that it's a lot.
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Because, effectively, I've lived a organic growth rather than an explosion of people.
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But at the end, I'm aware that it should be something positive.
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Because, again, we talked about it earlier, the people who joined the CryptoMask project at the beginning, were on the Telegram channel.
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And so I think we've had people who we deserved to have in terms of the history of the channel.
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So I think that was a good decision.
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But it's not a very remunerative decision.
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There are perhaps other people who will say that I prefer not only to upload a subscriber with
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with a giveaway in thromb.
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I can't say that it's necessarily the right solution.
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But it's the solution that I adopted.
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But for the project, since at the beginning, you imagine that we have a lot of proposals, collaborations, partenariats.
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I refuse almost everything, if you want.
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Because my first goal is not to...
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It's not that we're looking for a brilliance as soon as possible, we're protecting ourselves, we're covering ourselves and then we'll be able to shine when it's the moment that we're looking for, if you want, in a very natural way with an expansion.
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It's not surprising that the notion of integrity comes out a lot when I introduce myself because it's the thing that I'm
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Autant remarquer, one of the questions that I had was that there was this notion of the monetization of communities that is
Integrity and Sustainability in Communities
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everywhere.
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It's the main objective of 80% of the creators of communities.
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How would you, who is the anti-monetizer of communities, recommend you to do it to people who want to do it, who want to listen to your principles and implement them, but who have still some financial needs
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and who would need to gain money at the end.
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That's a very difficult question to answer.
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I don't think there's a magic formula.
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I can allow myself to do what I do today because I didn't have to count on Cryptomass for money to get money.
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It's not been created in this but.
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It has not been developed in this but.
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I had a chance in the sense that I worked at the start.
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The channel took a lot of time.
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But at the time, I had made a communication company, let's say, dedicated to the crypto, the ICO, etc.
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At the time, I worked with a lot of
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I had a lot of projects to verify.
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When we talk about ICO, it's all right.
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But I had some ICOs that I had judged on the moment, effectively, credible and in front of the road.
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I had already a little expertise of one or two years, but it gave me a little advance on the grosses businesses.
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If you have a gross business in finance, you want to launch an ICO, how do you do it?
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So even if you're well-conseillé, there's no one who, at this moment, was still expert.
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So I've put my little expertise, and I've put, and I think that it was a lot of training, finally, to create a team to modulate, animate, a Telegram group, finally, of ICO.
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So it's super interesting, because each ICO has their own project, with their own rules, etc.
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So you learn a lot of things at the moment.
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and, in particular, the management of community.
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I think that it was a lot of fun.
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But I had a chance because, at this time, I had a year before, I had launched Cryptomasse.
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So I had to be able to focus on 100% in crypto-monnaies.
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So yes, 50% of my time, I was going to research, the actuals, etc.
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Because at the time, the actuals were much more impact on that now.
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At the time, when you had a listing on Coinbase, you had a money, you had a...
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you could easily have 50% in the 10 minutes.
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Today, it's not the case.
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The actuality, globally, has much less effect, at least at short term.
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So, I had the time to focus on what I wanted, and in addition to that, I had a foot in the ecosystem crypto, because the goal was to animate communities crypto, ICO, etc.
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So, I had a lot of chance, because at this moment, I could
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to work, to make money, to pay attention to my passion.
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I followed a bit more calm with the crypto that has been followed.
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At this point, I continued to work.
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I worked well, I gained very correctly my life, which allowed me to invest, to continue to invest in Bitcoin, and already Ethereum at the time.
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So, little to little bit, I made a start, a pre-bullrun, which made me a
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in the double run, of gaining a lot of money and so to stop.
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I closed all my boxes, I never had a few boxes open to a single, I never worked on a single, but I was a little bit, in the case, on the communication, I closed it, I was confined to 100% to what I liked, to be able to be at my pace, not necessarily manage the team, because it also makes him good to take a little bit of
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The management of the team is super... It takes time.
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It takes time.
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It's more than a chronophage, it's energy-phage, I have to say.
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Energy-phage, yes.
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For inventing a word.
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And so it made me take a little bit of recul, to do what I wanted to do at rhythm.
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I wanted to do it and then live as I heard.
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And then there was a project Cryptomast in which I was actually invested 100%.
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And it's without regret.
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Because when you see how you're recompensed by the members of your community, you're recompensed by the community.
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the way the majority of the ecosystem you perceive is an enriching experience, it's an satisfying experience and it gives you an envie of going even further and further and further and further and so that's what we're going to do with the launch now, we're not a project, we've already been able to do it, to lancer a marketplace NFT.
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And we'll be back on it later because there are too many things just before you talked about which are super interesting.
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I think
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It's really fascinating the fact that you relive that management is chronophage but that to manage a community like CryptoMask, that it is chronophage and energy phage.
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Because, new words, today... I think we're called energy.
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You're right.
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We'll stay on the French is correct.
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And I'm sure that the majority of people who have a decentralized community are not in what you said, and for them, they find it even more energivore and chronophage.
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I was just putting myself in the middle of the day because there were a few clicks because I think there are many people who see the fact of launching a decentralized project as just a business.
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And it's in the mindset, a bit like before I had a 10 team and now I have a 1000 team or 5000 team.
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And so you put your impulse, your energy,
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with a goal, a desire that it happens in a way and it doesn't happen like that and so it's frustrating.
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And you seem to have, and I'm going to relive because for any one of the founders of projects who listen to, it's super important, there is a lot of impulse, there is a lot of drive, there is a lot of vision, but there is
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the way of the other side and the way of the organic and following and natural nature of things.
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I think there is one thing that we need to do, it's to give a maximum, to show you that you're there.
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When you want the most powerful, the most powerful, the most powerful,
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to make a parallel, it's when you have a general who are on the battlefield with all the soldiers, with everyone, you know.
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If you have a general who is in his tour of diamonds, who gives you the orders, it doesn't work, you don't work, because you have a lot of things.
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It's important to live the adventure, I think, with everyone, it's important to live the adventure with the community.
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It's like that, already, that the members of the community say, well, he is there,
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they spend a lot of time, they are accessible, so it gives them a lot of time to be there with you and to be there with you and I think that we can't do anything else, with all the energy, all the goodwill you want, you can't do anything else.
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The project CryptoMask, if I don't have all the people who are around to advance with me, you know, we don't have what we have today.
00:21:46
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Each person is important, finally, the team members, like each member of the community.
00:21:52
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It can sound like anodin, but when you do a tweet
00:21:56
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that you have a crypto mask in PFP and you make a tweet even if it's not too seen, even if it's not too liked.
00:22:02
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You'll notice that when you look at the stats, the tweets, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500, whatever the number of people.
00:22:09
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But you give a visibility to your project.
00:22:13
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And so I think it's all this energy that makes us have this power today.
00:22:20
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But to read a little bit what you said earlier, because we haven't developed a lot of what could be the secret for
00:22:26
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in the same time, gain their life all by creating content.
00:22:31
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I understand the creators who want to gain money, if you want to get money, we don't have all... Attention, the creators who are in crypto-money since 2017 and who continue to want to gain money on their community, for me, it's not very normal.
00:22:48
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Because if you're really in the ecosystem since 2017, you're supposed to have gained a little money, enough in all of a way, to not have to take it back.
00:22:56
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We're going to go and search for the money on the side of your community.
00:23:00
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Even if you're coming with a small amount in 2017, you've been living in 2020, 2021, 2022.
00:23:07
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Globalmente, with 1 000 € of investment, you could easily, easily, 30, 40 000 €.
00:23:11
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So, I'm saying that the creator of content,
00:23:18
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who is an influencer, we call it as we want, since 2017, but who continue to go for a new program.
00:23:24
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A new program, it doesn't pay for a new program.
00:23:26
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For those who don't think it's a new program, it doesn't pay for a new program.
00:23:30
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In any case, it doesn't pay for a new program.
00:23:33
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It doesn't pay for a new program for a new program.
00:23:34
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But I think it's not very natural
00:23:38
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of still seeking funds in his community when he's in the game for seven years.
00:23:42
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But in the end, we saw in 2020, 2021, 2022, many new creators, many new experts in the ecosystem, many
00:23:54
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It's where the majority of experts have come.
00:23:58
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It's important that if it's people who come to the ecosystem, they have needs.
00:24:04
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From when they pass the half or the whole day of their journey to create content for us, to inform us when it's quality content, I think it's normal, it's legitimate to have to gain their life.
00:24:17
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It's not possible otherwise, you know.
00:24:20
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So you have a guy who is in the face, who is super concerned, who is 100% of his day on the floor, and in this case, he deserves to gain his life.
00:24:26
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After, how?
00:24:27
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That's the question.
00:24:27
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Because in the creation of content, there is always this little bit of a taboo of thinking about how I gain my life, finally.
00:24:35
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I think there is no secret.
00:24:37
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Some people have the chance to be able to
00:24:39
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So
00:25:00
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So I understand that there is a little problem there, it's very bad that to try to win their life in the ecosystem.
00:25:08
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There is really a little problem at this level, it's that people, with quality content, should be able to win their lives.
00:25:16
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And I think that's a bit of the way to think of Elon Musk.
00:25:20
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Elon Musk, can we love it or can't let's love it, he's a visionary.
00:25:25
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All this he does, he does it.
00:25:27
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So, we can't go against his tendency.
00:25:29
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We can't go against him and say, well, now, he's a bad guy.
00:25:32
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He's a bad guy.
00:25:32
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He's a bad guy.
00:25:33
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He's a bad guy.
00:25:41
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creators on Twitter, it's going to pay them.
00:25:44
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Because they can't... I think that was a bit of their strategy there.
00:25:47
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And to my opinion, it's well played.
00:25:49
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We'll see what it does.
00:25:50
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It can let it think that it's going to have an abuse.
00:25:54
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It can let it think that it's going to have a lot of things.
00:25:59
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I saw that there are a few people who tweet more than before, but we haven't lost in quality, and the time that it's adjusted, I think it's going to be beneficial.
00:26:10
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And if it's not with the 50 euros that you send, I don't know if it's all the same time, but it's not with the 50 euros that you can get out for the moment, but in any case, I think it's a good start after the reflection.
00:26:25
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Yeah, it's not in the right sense.
00:26:27
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I have no final answer to the answer.
00:26:29
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I think there are people who come to work, to work a job, and to be creative content.
00:26:39
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I'm going to give you the example, I hope you won't want to have cité Crypto Goku.
00:26:43
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Goku is a monster in the information.
00:26:46
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I know what he does because it's what I did with Cryptomass at the beginning, that's to go look for the hot and recent information for us to inform everything that's happening, all the actuality a little important in real life.
00:27:02
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what do not the media because the media, it's necessary to prepare it.
00:27:06
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When he has the info, he has to prepare an article.
00:27:08
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Even if they try to release the stuff quickly, I think we need a profile like the same.
00:27:13
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And for having done, not as well as he, for having done at the beginning with Cryptomas, there for the coup it's chronophage.
00:27:20
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And there for the coup it can be done because you pass your journey in the news.
00:27:23
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And so someone like Crypto Goku arrives from the morning to the evening
00:27:30
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to inform you, all having a job at the side.
00:27:34
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And for me, it's an example to say that it's feasible.
00:27:38
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You can work at the day and do that in parallel.
00:27:42
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It depends on each one.
00:27:43
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One day, it can be long as it can be long.
00:27:46
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It depends on your occupation level and how to manage the time.
00:27:48
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I think there's no miracle solution.
00:27:51
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I think we can do everything in the same time.
00:27:53
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It's just to give you the means and then everything is feasible.
00:27:59
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And I think we can work and do content in the same time.
00:28:03
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And if we do that, there is a source of revenue liable to this content.
00:28:06
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Because at a moment or another, it will stop.
00:28:07
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And it's a dommage, in fact.
00:28:08
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There are plenty of people who are super, who are top, who don't even know the sign of life.
00:28:13
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Because certain times, they have been rattraping by the life, finally.
00:28:17
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We have all the impurities, the obligations, the fees, the charges.
00:28:22
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So it's not obvious.
00:28:23
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There is a big work to do at a moment or another to destigmatize the money.
00:28:28
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The money is an tool that allows an exchange of value.
00:28:34
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When it was the first form of money, it was a few years ago, it was a person who has a value to transmit it from a way or another.
00:28:44
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I know it's on a paper paper.
00:28:48
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I need to write on paper.
00:28:50
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The stock is not necessarily valid because I don't have anything to contribute to it.
00:28:55
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So we replace it by money.
00:28:59
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And we, the money, it took a different place, a different form.
00:29:03
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It's become our first indicator of
00:29:06
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of status, of all you want.
00:29:10
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And it's completely... It's completely... It's completely......so that Goku is a crazy job.
00:29:17
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There are several......mullies of people who benefit, who receive the value.
00:29:23
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It would be normal that these people contribute a little bit to the value, but it would be done in a transparent way.
00:29:31
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How would you imagine an optimal exchange of value in this case, for example?
00:29:36
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I think the best solution for a case like that is the newsletter.
00:29:42
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The secret in this thing is because it's class.
00:29:52
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After, I don't have any magic formula to give.
00:29:56
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I would like it, but I don't have it.
00:29:59
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But I think it's the newsletter.
00:30:00
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If all the creators are going to make a newsletter, you will understand that it will have more interest in this moment.
00:30:12
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It's interesting when you don't receive 15 letters every morning in your mail.
00:30:16
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Especially today, the mail is a bit like the letters in 15 or 10 years ago.
00:30:19
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It's to say that your mail is open to the end.
00:30:21
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It's 20 years ago, people attend their courier.
00:30:24
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You received a letter, you were happy.
00:30:26
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Today, who has a chance to open your letters?
00:30:28
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Nobody.
00:30:34
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It's a little the same with emails.
00:30:35
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In addition to that in emails, you will receive the half of your emails, which are the scams.
00:30:40
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You have a E-DF in wait, you have a copy of it, you have a copy of it.
00:30:44
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Everything you receive is a tentative of scam today.
00:30:48
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It's also a good thing to take into account.
00:30:51
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It's maybe valid now, it's probably not the case in five or ten years, we'll see how everything evolves.
00:30:55
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But for the moment, I think that the newsletter is a good way to
00:30:59
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of earning money thanks to his community, thanks to his audience, all in respect.
00:31:04
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Yeah, and it's transparent, it's bilateral, because you have to be subscribed to the newsletter, so you're not there to find out the quality of the content that you're proposed to be diluted.
00:31:16
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Exactly, it's you who chose.
00:31:18
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And I like this idea of having the choice.
00:31:19
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We had started this conversation with the good decisions you took, which you put on the foot at the end when you started this journey.
00:31:27
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Do you remember the errors you made, or the wrong judgments you made, which you came back in the head, and which you learned and which someone else could learn?
00:31:45
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I can't say errors.
00:31:47
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I have a capacity to occupy this kind of thing.
00:31:50
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I'm learning that at the moment of my error, I think about what I've been doing, and I forget.
00:31:54
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So I've learned from this error, but I don't know what it will be.
00:31:58
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It's not my error, I've never done it.
00:32:00
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I've had to do it.
00:32:01
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Like that, I don't see it.
00:32:02
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I don't see it.
00:32:02
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I don't see it.
00:32:03
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I've had to do it.
00:32:04
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I don't see it.
00:32:05
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I don't see it.
00:32:06
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I don't see it.
00:32:06
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I don't see it.
00:32:07
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I don't see it.
00:32:07
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I don't see it.
00:32:08
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I don't see it.
00:32:09
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I don't see it because I didn't see it.
00:32:13
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how to make errors on an information channel where you just share information.
00:32:17
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There is no errors, you can't let anything else.
00:32:21
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We notice that there is a lot of hate, it's not recent, there is a lot of hate in bull market, when it's in bear market, it's a lot more.
00:32:37
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When everything is green, everyone knows more.
00:32:38
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But at the same time, it's a bit normal.
00:32:41
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I think that already, it's not to be in a little bit of polimic, like that, of things that can be a little touchy on the networks.
00:32:48
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It's not to be in position when you're followed by a lot of people.
00:32:52
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I think it's not to be in a little bit.
00:32:54
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After, it's what creates also...
00:32:59
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I have a strategy that is different.
00:33:01
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I can't give a good example to follow if you want to be successful.
00:33:07
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People will say that when you have a discussion a little animative, you post, you send a message and then you create a situation a little bit.
00:33:18
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you create some buzz, some micro buzz, that leads to the world, etc.
00:33:20
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I don't eat this part, if you want.
00:33:23
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But it's what you want to say.
00:33:25
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It's only the merit, and finally, when I say merit, it's your merit, but also what you deserve.
00:33:31
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I think it's more like that, it's like that I'm going to show things.
00:33:35
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I've always been very correct with the people with whom I worked.
00:33:37
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I've always been very intègre, I've always been very motivated.
00:33:42
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I think, for the people with whom I work, and I think that's my thing to do.
00:33:47
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After, it's not necessarily the thing... You know, everyone has their own thing, finally.
00:33:51
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But it's exactly what I was going to relever.
00:33:53
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Well, already, I can't want to have an error to relever, because I'm exactly the same.
00:33:57
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There's something, there's something, there's something, there's something that's given, because every thing that happens, it's just a feedback on, ah, well, there's an adjustment, there's an adjustment, and you progress.
00:34:10
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But...
00:34:12
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I have the impression that you're very aligned with you-même.
00:34:16
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And so it's been a work that you've done active.
00:34:20
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Because we talk about the personal development with some guests, because it's a subject that I'm fascinated.
00:34:27
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Is there a moment this conscious démarche of saying, I'm going to do work on myself to be more happy and more effective?
00:34:35
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I think it's... It's important to take a lot of conscience.
00:34:37
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Often when you're a younger, you have to have a reason all the time.
00:34:41
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And you have to convince people that you're right.
00:34:44
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You cry, you're nervous.
00:34:45
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And there are a lot of things, actually, when you grow up, that you think about how you think about it.
00:34:49
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I think it's important to do some things.
00:34:51
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It's like my point fort.
00:34:55
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What are my strengths?
00:34:56
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What are my weaknesses?
00:34:57
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Because when you're looking at the face and you're looking at it all right, without ever putting in question, without ever making an improspection on you-même, you can plant it all your life.
00:35:06
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So I think you need to work on yourself, on plenty of things.
00:35:09
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I tend to be very impulsive.
00:35:13
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So I wanted to transform this impulsivity, which is a negative word, in something a bit negative.
00:35:19
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So today, when I have an idea, I'm going to take this impulsivity to inspire other people to help people to realize this idea.
00:35:27
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Or maybe to make it all alone, it's possible to work on a project in a solo way.
00:35:30
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And in this case, I can think of something in the morning and one hour later, I'm working on it like a fool.
00:35:35
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But it's also...
00:35:40
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It's the first part of the start of the start of the start that I had, that I had to transform in a little bit more positive.
00:35:47
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And I think that's it.
00:35:48
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I think that we have all the qualities and all the defects.
00:35:52
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If we can transform these defects in a booster of quality, it's interesting.
00:35:56
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I don't know if I answered your question because I don't know even more what was the question of the start.
00:36:01
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But it was very good.
00:36:03
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But it confirms that we all work on ourselves.
00:36:09
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d'une manière ou d'une autre, parfois on en a très conscience, parce qu'on est très conscient de ce qui ne va pas, et on fait une recherche active, et moi j'étais dans ce cas-là, notamment, et il y en a pour qui ça se fait un petit peu plus naturellement, et
00:36:25
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And that's the case, but it's very true what you said.
00:36:29
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And what I would say to conclude is that it's completely normal to not be perfect.
00:36:36
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It's completely normal to have these biais and what we could call these defects, which are not really what we could call them.
00:36:42
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The first step is to accept all this.
00:36:45
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Once you accept it, you transform yourself.
00:36:47
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I think it's important to always be humble.
00:36:49
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And always say, well, I can even improve even
00:36:54
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There are things that you can do well, which can be even better.
00:36:57
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And then you work on yourself in all that.
00:36:59
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But there is no longer there.
00:37:01
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I'm quite confident.
00:37:02
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I'm quite confident in myself.
00:37:04
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So, I don't have my errors in mind.
00:37:08
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I don't get my errors in mind.
00:37:10
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I don't get them like a roll.
00:37:12
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Because you can't be confident and train your errors.
00:37:16
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So, you need to know how to learn.
00:37:19
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I don't think I've done a lot of errors in my life.
00:37:22
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But all the errors that I've done
00:37:24
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from the young age to now, it's a tier of lessons.
00:37:27
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To be sure of you, because I think that's one of the biggest factors of success in life, it's to be sure of you.
00:37:34
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And to be sure of you, it's not...
00:37:37
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You don't have the most of your brain in your brain.
00:37:41
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I think it's only about things well.
00:37:43
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I'm going to say that when you think positive, it will arrive things positive.
00:37:52
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Even if sometimes it's not action-reaction, sometimes you will have a good action a day and then in one or two or three or four years,
00:37:59
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you will be able to recover the benefits because of the basis you didn't have done for that.
00:38:04
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Also, you know, it's all that important.
00:38:07
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With Cryptomass, I did it for three years like that, in refusing to do everything.
00:38:14
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And then after you have the doors that open.
00:38:17
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I get contacted by people who are a little more serious, who tell you, I like it.
00:38:22
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And then, of course, it gives you credibility.
00:38:26
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We are in a world where no one of us doesn't show their CV.
00:38:30
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So the only thing that can, if you want to differentiate and make sure that the people have the impression of you and to say, is that I can give you confidence or not, is that your history on the networks, on what you've shared.
00:38:42
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And we'll talk about it in a way more developed.
00:38:44
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Because I'm in a world where today we have the chance
00:38:53
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with the arrival of what we call the Web3, to recover, if you want, his identity, his identity, individual identity.
00:39:03
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We can control each other's identity, his information personal, and that's not an intermediary.
00:39:11
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We can choose what we want to share.
00:39:13
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There is a new world, finally, which is open, because there, we talk about history, ancient history without having a CV.
Web3: Control and Identity
00:39:20
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We could imagine tomorrow
00:39:22
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that, thanks to your web3 profile, your wallet, you could have an event of a company that would create a sort of bank, which would create a sort of bank, rather than to pay with historical bankers, with a file of pay, etc.,
00:39:45
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why don't we not pay to sell profiles that we just are serious because there is no trick.
00:39:50
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You can't have your bank, you can't have your bank, you can't have your pay, you can't have your profile, everything is clear, everything is affiché.
00:39:59
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There we are very beginning, if you want.
00:40:02
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But if you hold your address for 20, 25 years,
00:40:06
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You doubted that your web profile will have value if you have done things well.
00:40:11
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And it's you who choose what you want to share.
00:40:14
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Because if you don't want to share it, you don't do it on a public profile.
00:40:20
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So I think it's important.
00:40:21
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And it was a little bit in the line of what I said, the credibility that you have in line, or no matter how much,
00:40:28
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and you won't get the credibility in six months or in an hour.
00:40:31
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It's with time.
00:40:31
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So all this is important.
00:40:34
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I think when we start to an adventure of creator or funder, it's all about to be able to do things for the good reasons.
00:40:42
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It's completely aligned with your convictions.
00:40:48
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Aligné avec tes convictions et être très honnête avec toi-même quand tu te rends compte que tes convictions, ce n'est pas les bonnes.
00:40:54
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Parce qu'après, on n'est pas parfaits et parfois on pense qu'on fait les bonnes choses et en fait on se rend compte en rétrospective que ce n'est pas le cas.
00:41:01
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Et c'est OK, c'est le cas pour tout le monde.
00:41:03
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Mais ouais, si tu es honnête avec toi-même, que tu as des convictions fortes mais qui restent
00:41:07
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because you're going to get the feedback and you... Your convictions change.
00:41:13
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As we say, there are no convictions that change.
00:41:15
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In all cases, your convictions are not going to change.
00:41:18
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Not necessarily change, but to evolve at minimum.
00:41:22
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There's a thing that I find super interesting, both in the tech these last years that now in the Web3, and it was Kant.
00:41:34
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who said something like that humans shouldn't be used as a way to end.
00:41:40
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In everything we do daily, whether in the content or in the content, whether in the projects,
00:41:44
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there is still this thing that is very present of... I'm going to use these people for my personal life.
00:41:52
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Each of our personal ways of living, there is something that can be kept in mind, it's this phrase because what you do is not to serve these people as a fin.
00:42:01
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You serve what you're doing as a way for your personal development, for your professional development.
00:42:06
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But the people with which you interact, respect them from A to Z, without ever being détourned.
00:42:12
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Well, we can't validate that, effectively.
00:42:15
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Thanks.
00:42:15
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I hope that it's something that you incarnate, so it would be a bit embêté that you say no.
00:42:20
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In all of a sudden, for the project CryptoMask, I don't do it.
00:42:24
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I don't follow my convictions, I follow my vision.
00:42:27
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In other hand, I try to be in the convictions of each one.
00:42:30
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It's that which changes a little bit.
00:42:31
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In a classic business, it's that there, effectively,
00:42:40
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You have a vision, but it's the way it's to your vision to coincide with the desires of the people who you are.
00:42:46
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They touch completely.
00:42:48
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They touch because they make them briller the project daily.
00:42:52
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If you don't do something that speaks to everyone, then, if you're the only one in your own, it's not the same.
00:42:59
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So I think it's to have a vision, but also to have a common goal in terms of a project.
00:43:08
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a project like the CryptoMask in the case.
00:43:11
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When we were on the phone, a few days ago, you talked about something that I didn't know.
00:43:16
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You talked about digital empreint.
00:43:18
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You told me that your empreint digital is great.
00:43:20
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And that made me think and I found it pretty cool that it was a subject.
00:43:25
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Can you explain why you brought attention to it?
00:43:29
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I'm very attached.
00:43:30
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When we say empreint digital, for specifying, it's my...
00:43:34
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It's not my digital, it's not my digital, it's not my digital.
00:43:37
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It's not my digital.
00:43:40
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It's not my digital.
00:43:41
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It's not my digital.
00:43:42
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It's not my digital.
00:43:43
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It's not my digital.
00:43:44
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It's not my digital.
00:43:45
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It's not my digital.
00:43:46
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Okay.
00:43:46
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I don't know that.
00:43:47
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And Face ID, no?
00:43:49
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Yes.
00:43:49
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Okay, it's not.
00:43:50
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But I'm not using Face ID.
00:43:51
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I'm not using Face ID for a long time.
00:43:54
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But I'm not using Face ID for a long time.
00:44:00
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Yeah, for very long time.
00:44:00
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And then I said, in any case, if you want to see it, they don't know.
00:44:05
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They know.
00:44:06
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It's not the same for the entrepreneur.
00:44:08
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So I'm not afraid of buying a phone very cheap.
00:44:15
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for more to give me my phone.
00:44:17
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If they had offered me a phone in exchange with my phone, I would not have done it.
00:44:22
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I would not have done it.
00:44:23
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I am very attached to everything that is related to the identity of the numeric, everything that is related to everything.
00:44:31
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I knew it already, it was very long.
00:44:32
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It was a very interesting thing.
00:44:33
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And what is the derivative?
00:44:35
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C'est quoi le pire scénario?
00:44:37
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Comment est-ce que ça peut vraiment... Parce que tu vois, je vais te parler de mon point de vue, qui est que j'utilise ces plateformes, j'utilise ces outils, j'en ai des bénéfices, et en fait je m'en fous un petit peu de ce qu'ils ont.
00:44:49
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Et je ne sais pas à quel point c'est naïf, donc est-ce que tu pourrais aujourd'hui me faire une petite masterclass pour m'enlever cette naïf?
00:44:55
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Je ne sais même pas y de rentrer là-dedans, parce que je ne sais pas...
00:45:01
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I'm not proactive saying that it's very serious, the digital identity is not... No, everyone does what he wants.
00:45:07
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Everyone really does what he wants.
00:45:09
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I feel the need...
00:45:40
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I'm very in control and control my own data.
00:45:44
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I love to have the choice.
00:45:47
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So yes, I don't want to make a masterclass on what could happen, on the dangers of this, of this, of this.
00:45:54
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Because in addition to that, I'm not sure I know 1% of all the event.
00:45:58
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So I can't do it.
00:46:00
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But I know that...
00:46:06
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For example, for the launch of the exchange platform, we will launch a NFT platform soon.
00:46:12
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So there is the Cryptomask project that is corporate-based, it is to say that there is an enterprise that is behind the project, and behind this new marketplace that we will launch.
00:46:24
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A particular moment when there is an enterprise, you have for sure there are names behind.
00:46:28
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I don't think that for keeping
00:46:32
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my anonymity, it was sain to build an entrepreneur with a nominee, you know, where you don't put it in front, where you have to put it in front, where you have to put it in front, where you have to put it in front, where you have to put it in front, where you have to put it in front of you, even if you don't want to do it, I don't think that's the solution, so I thought it was a moment or another, that I was going to do that,
00:47:00
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So I'm going to be able to be a doctor.
00:47:02
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I'm happy to not have a lot of historical history.
00:47:04
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Even if I haven't done bad things, there are even a lot of things that would be super positive to have seen in advance.
00:47:10
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I'm happy to not have too much trace, because we are in an industry where we are all at the beginning, we see a lot of things happening.
00:47:26
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I don't necessarily speak to people who can come to you because they have an address and they say, you know, that you have to be rich in bitcoin, I will come to you.
00:47:36
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Because that's also sad and it's something that can happen.
00:47:38
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But it's not, if you want, a scenario on thousand of what could happen.
00:47:42
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And as we say, like the expression says, we live happy and we live caché.
00:47:48
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I think it's a bit true.
00:47:49
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You talked earlier about this taboo on the money.
00:47:55
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people look if you're rich or not rich in France there is no only taboo on the money but in addition there is a taboo on how much you gain, on the wealth, on the possession of patrimony there is a taboo on everything even if you look at the United States where there is no taboo it doesn't take anything to do in the travers of what you said earlier
00:48:15
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you are judged at what you possess, you know.
00:48:17
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And the United States, well, there's no taboo, the guy will tell you, I have three houses there, two houses there, a boat there, but because he knows that we're going to judge it, you know.
00:48:27
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So I think there's no solution.
00:48:29
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It's not better at the United States than in France.
00:48:31
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In all cases, there's no two examples, there's no...
00:48:35
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There are no good examples.
00:48:36
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When you stay masked, you have all the concepts behind you.
00:48:39
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From where I'm the cryptomass, with the image of a hacker,
00:48:52
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with the numbers to the matrix that were all at the beginning.
00:48:56
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After I got it through with Lucio Politi, first of all, and then E-Project, I was going to say E-Project, but it's not that I forgot Lucio, who made a great thing and became Lucio Politi, it's the reference in crypto art international.
00:49:14
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So I'm very proud of having an image made by this man.
00:49:19
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So now I have an image a little bit more refreshed, but it doesn't make it that there is the character behind.
00:49:24
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It creates an atmosphere.
00:49:26
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And even if I have nothing to hide, if it was my face on Twitter rather than the PFP, it's not the same charm.
00:49:31
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It's not the same.
00:49:43
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I was going to reference before our call where it's true that once the face is revealed, there is a little bit of a mystery that you saw.
00:49:46
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00:50:13
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with maybe your future wife, there's a charm.
00:50:17
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There's a charm.
00:50:19
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It's a little comparable, if you want.
00:50:22
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You lose this thing.
00:50:23
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Once you've shown your head, you're done.
00:50:24
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You've passed one step.
00:50:25
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I think that this little step is interesting.
00:50:28
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I would like to keep it in the way.
00:50:30
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With the marketplace, it would have been possible.
00:50:32
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But it was a little bit of the idea.
00:50:35
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I'm going to nuancer the fact that
00:50:45
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On perd quelque chose et on en gagne d'autres.
00:50:47
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Ce n'est jamais tout noir, tout blanc, mais je comprends.
00:50:53
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Parce que toi et moi, on est dans deux cas complètement différents où toi, tu as envie de préserver ça.
00:50:56
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Est-ce que je comprends complètement à ta place et pour la personne que je sais que tu es?
00:51:01
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Pour moi, par exemple, je n'ai qu'une seule hâte, c'est de me doxer parce que je sais qu'une grosse partie de ce qui fait que je...
00:51:08
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in what I do, my head is my expression, people see that I'm honest, and for what you know that I'm building, it's super important.
00:51:18
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So, for sure, according to your circumstances, you have to do what you do to you.
00:51:26
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Of course, everyone does what he wants, and that's why I made the parallel
00:51:33
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with maybe your future wife.
00:51:36
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There's nothing negative.
00:51:38
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At the contrary, it's just one step that you pass.
00:51:41
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But it's not the same excitement that before.
00:51:45
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So, it's another step.
00:51:46
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And there's a charm.
00:51:52
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There's a charm to this thing, the hacker that you had with Matrix, the way to trust someone without knowing their true identity, I think it's great as concept.
00:52:01
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In fact, you know, we're based on, we're confident, we're going to see, we're going to see, we're going to see, we're going to see, we're going to see, we're going to see, we're going to see, we're going to see, we're going to see, there are a lot of people who are not real, so it's not a science exact, this story where we meet and it's going to see, it's going to see, it's going to see,
00:52:18
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Yes, once you've learned to meet someone without seeing someone, when you see someone, you can't reinforce things.
00:52:23
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But it's not necessarily a first approach.
00:52:26
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You can make someone more embobinated by someone who you see in real.
00:52:30
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Who you present well, who knows to speak.
00:52:32
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The advantage of being masked is that we all are all in the same way.
00:52:42
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Belle gueule, pas belle gueule, tu vois, ça ne changerait rien.
00:52:45
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Bagou, pas bagou, chat, pas tchatch, ça ne changerait rien en fait.
00:52:49
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Et je pense que c'est important de partir avec eux.
00:52:52
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with an image neutral.
00:52:53
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And you make sense to SBF, who we trusted because he had the head of geek, the head of a completely offensive guy, to Madoff, to all these people who knew to present, who knew to speak, who knew to manipulate.
00:53:07
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And in fact, we would never have to trust them.
00:53:09
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And so it makes me feel like you said earlier, your wallet doesn't represent words, it doesn't represent something that you present, it represents acts.
00:53:19
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You've gained time.
00:53:21
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You've participated in the governance, you've participated in all these things.
00:53:24
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And we, it's what we imagine for the ecosystem that we're creating, where, just all the actions that you take in the context of the ecosystem, are inscrites on the blockchain in one way or another, and this blockchain becomes an historical objective of the actions of a person who, in the end, is much longer than...
00:53:45
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the few words that someone could tell you when you meet.
00:53:50
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Exactly.
00:53:50
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I share.
00:53:52
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You see who it is Balaji?
00:53:53
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No.
00:53:54
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Ex-CTO of Coinbase.
00:53:56
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He was at A6C.
00:53:58
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He wrote a book called The Network State.
00:54:04
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and that I started reading last week and which is completely fascinating because it's been a year that I'm working on something and I didn't know there was a current thought on this subject so it's me that's me very inspiring and he talks about this notion of
00:54:21
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in the context of the civilisation.
00:54:25
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And he said that it's very difficult to make an objective idea because the history is written by the vainqueurs.
00:54:36
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It's always been like that since the beginning of the human life.
00:54:40
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With the blockchain and with the wallet,
00:54:44
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at the beginning of a new history of humanity because potentially our civilization and our civilization will be able to come for the first time they will have a traceability of the history of course it is one of the important points but it is important to understand that the identity which is auto-girized in the web 3 that we have
00:55:02
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that we start to know, that will revolutionize the way everyone interacts online.
00:55:09
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You keep control, it's secure, you stay in confidentiality.
00:55:12
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Compared to the current system where it's completely inverse, where everyone's in the same way, people are in acceptation.
00:55:17
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They say, I give my data in parallel, I use the stuff, it's cool.
00:55:22
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But it's going to be a problem.
00:55:25
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And we see it already, it's already a problem.
00:55:27
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It's going to be a problem at all, but it's for that, today, the fact that we're going to manage fully their identity is very important.
00:55:35
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Imagine, for example, someone who is... Imagine people who are without paper, who have no access to banks.
00:55:40
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Those who will be able to, despite all, have a real identity
00:55:45
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like everyone, we all are all with the same chance, it's another example, among others, if you want, you don't get a trick, you don't get an abuse, we're in the confidentiality, I find it incredible.
00:55:55
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It's a beautiful perspective.
00:55:57
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And we'll talk about it in two seconds because I wanted to talk a little bit more about Web3 in general.
00:56:02
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But before that, we have put in place a thing called Rapid Fire Questions.
00:56:06
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I have some questions where you respond to the tac-au-tac without thinking.
00:56:11
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If you could buy an NFT that you keep for the rest of your life and not a crypto mask, what would you say?
00:56:20
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I was going to say everything, Thomas.
00:56:21
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I was going to say, but it was good.
00:56:22
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I know what I could buy.
00:56:22
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I hesitate.
00:56:23
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I hesitate to do different things.
00:56:24
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I ask myself to turn to the art, where I'm going to go on a more... You have to go on a more... You have to go on a two.
00:56:30
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You have to go on a two.
00:56:32
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For you, except for you, because I'm the first in French, and it's all you have to do,
00:56:42
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you have the right to one artist and another.
00:56:47
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So in this case I buy Fidenza and Crypto Punk.
00:56:49
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I love it.
00:56:49
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I knew you were going to say Crypto Punk and when you mentioned it I thought it was going to say that it was going to be on the other side.
00:56:59
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The same thing but for one crypto.
00:57:00
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BTC.
00:57:00
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But again, I say BTC, it was my answer since 2016.
00:57:03
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Now I would say, please,
00:57:10
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Just like for the other question, let me choose two.
00:57:15
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Yeah, because there we are in the way to develop an ecosystem
00:57:20
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I'm going to go around Ethereum with the project, with the market, with all that, everything is launched by Ethereum.
00:57:26
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So I wouldn't, you know, and then, as we say, it's difficult to choose between your father and your mother.
00:57:31
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Today, it's become a bit like that.
00:57:33
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Exactly.
00:57:34
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So, when you ask me, in all of a sudden, what do I do to buy?
00:57:37
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It's a few times, I said, I only buy Bitcoin.
00:57:40
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It's two, three years.
00:57:42
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It's systematically Bitcoin, Ethereum, because, finally, the one doesn't make what the other allows.
00:57:47
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One is precursor, the other is in another domain, Bitcoin is terrible.
00:57:52
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They are so liable.
00:57:53
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It's really a divine relationship.
00:57:58
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What are the three people of the ecosystem with which it matches the most in this moment, which you inspire the most?
00:58:03
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Yako Nohime, with whom I'm hearing very well.
00:58:07
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I also feel like someone with whom nobody knows.
00:58:10
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Because he is very grognon and he doesn't know his words.
00:58:15
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It's Mr Crypto, Frederic Okana.
00:58:17
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Kono and he are the two people I've seen in real.
00:58:21
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It's the only two people we've met.
00:58:23
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And there's another one I love.
00:58:25
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I'll give you the couple because I love the two.
00:58:29
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It's John and Rem from NFT Morning, which I've also seen in real.
00:58:33
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I'll give you the three people who saw my face.
00:58:37
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which I had a hand.
00:58:39
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And now I'm with you.
00:58:40
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I didn't know how to do it, but I didn't know what to do.
00:58:43
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I don't know what people think about you and not true.
00:58:46
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I don't know what people think about me.
00:58:48
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For all those who think that I have less than 30 years, no.
00:58:51
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That's not the case.
00:58:52
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But in the end, I don't know what to say here.
00:58:58
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When you're not at the mask and not in the web 3, what do you do in life?
00:59:02
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I'm going to my family.
00:59:04
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I'm going to my parents.
00:59:06
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It's important to do things, not to spend all your time.
00:59:08
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This was the first year of the project, where I was so much in it that I had to leave some things.
00:59:17
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I had to get caught up with the tir because it's important.
00:59:21
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When you grow up, they grow up very quickly.
00:59:23
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So every moment, it's a privilege moment that you never find.
00:59:31
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So I try to spend time with my wife and my children.
00:59:34
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And my friends also.
00:59:37
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That's still a second line when you find a little more time.
00:59:40
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I have a very cher friend that I have.
00:59:41
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Most of my friends today are friends that I have known for very long time.
00:59:45
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They know that I'm very busy all the time.
00:59:47
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Even if I'm not busy, my head is busy.
00:59:49
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So I'm not someone who
00:59:56
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which calls a lot of people.
00:59:58
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But even if we call it after six months, one year, and we haven't seen it for two years, it's always interesting and pleasant.
01:00:06
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Yeah, these are some advice that we can't, that we can
Future of Digital Payments and Cryptocurrencies
01:00:09
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never hear.
01:00:09
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How do you see our industry, this sector-là, evolving in the years?
01:00:13
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I see something enormous.
01:00:15
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It's why, by the way, I've had an idea of this project.
01:00:18
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It's not a project... I didn't say, we're going to do something, and then it will take six months.
01:00:22
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The goal is to really take a long time.
01:00:24
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I've tried to have a vision a little in advance, I want to say, compared to the concrete information that we have.
01:00:30
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But we're in a sector, globalement, it's a trouvaille, if you want, in part of the Bitcoin, and everything that comes out of it,
01:00:37
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We are in a revolution, finally.
01:00:39
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We see that there is a digitalization that is made.
01:00:43
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We have all our phones.
01:00:45
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So we arrive in a world that is more digital, even virtual.
01:00:50
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And so it is completely in the line of what we live with the Web3.
01:00:55
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And so for me, sincerely, Bitcoin is the talent
01:01:00
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It will be the reference in a few years, of course.
01:01:02
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There is something that is still very flout, it's the release of all these money, all these stable debtors.
01:01:10
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We don't know what it will give.
01:01:13
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It's a bit the thing that makes me fear in the years to come.
01:01:19
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I tell you, from the moment that you have the States who are stable, when the United States will have their dollar numérique, what is it that will become Tether, for example?
01:01:31
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What is it that is that all these stable already in place, where there is a lot of liquidation on it, where there are a lot of liquidation on it.
01:01:37
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It's becoming very current.
01:01:39
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We don't know what to do.
01:01:40
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But when you go to Swiss, for example, on a market market, or on a market market, or on a market market, or whatever.
01:01:47
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The first way of paying is the USDT.
01:01:49
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We don't know it, but when it's that, it's the USDT.
01:01:52
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Because when you go to Switzerland, you go to a market for a month, or you go to a month, which is very, very, very, very expensive, you don't have to pay for money, or on your card, you don't have to have 250 000 who can pass in one card.
01:02:05
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So, at this point, we are on a system that is already used by the people who have the most needed, so for the moment, on the gross transactions.
01:02:15
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The companies have all intérêt to use the payments in crypto.
01:02:18
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After, I don't know if it's already happened, but when you do business with other countries, other countries, it's a hassle to make a part of your bank in France, in China for example.
01:02:34
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It's a bad thing.
01:02:35
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It doesn't exist in 2023.
01:02:37
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There are plenty of things that are completely abusive.
01:02:39
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When you're going to deposit a check, it's four days.
01:02:43
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It's been 15 years that I've never used the check.
01:02:46
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It's a change.
01:02:48
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But it's been four days to be credited because you have a certain delay.
01:02:53
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But it's the delay that were valid at the time when the funds were transported to an other cheval.
01:03:02
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And so, for example, for going to Paris to Marseille with the funds, it was going to take 4 days.
01:03:09
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Okay, okay, I accept at this moment that it would take 4 days to credit a account at Marseille, knowing that the funds were going to be deposited at Paris, because the money comes to other people.
01:03:18
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But how can you justify today?
01:03:21
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So all these things are very archaic, which do not change because it arranges everyone.
01:03:28
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The bank, for four days, is not in the tuyau.
01:03:32
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It is working for the bank.
01:03:34
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So all these things are very archaic, it has to be changed.
01:03:39
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And the crypto-money allows this change.
01:03:42
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In other words, there are governments who will defend their money, which is logical.
01:03:48
Speaker
You defend your economy, you defend your money, it's logical.
01:03:52
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And so, there is something that I'm a little afraid in the years that arrive, it's at the exit of all these crypto-moneyes of Etat, what's going on in fact?
01:04:02
Speaker
Do you think we're going to create communities?
01:04:05
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Because there's the notion of nation that's completely lost in the last few years, where to be part of a nation is becoming more an obligation than a right, because there's no same feeling of attachment and of rallied.
01:04:15
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And so maybe one of the questions is, is that we, in everything we're doing in the communities we're creating and the money we're associating,
01:04:26
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will we be able to be more powerful, more powerful, more liable than the États?
01:04:32
Speaker
I think it's difficult to fight against the États.
01:04:34
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It's like if you said David against Goliath, it was not a win, but David won't win.
01:04:38
Speaker
You said Goliath.
01:04:39
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It was not a win.
01:04:40
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So it's a bit difficult in the États to say that we're going to go in war and that we need to say that there's no community.
01:04:48
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In France, yes, there are other countries where it's the case, but there are other countries where they are very attached to their country.
01:04:56
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I talk about Thailand, I talk about the Maroc, because we have, unfortunately, an example of the Maroc, which is a few days after this tragedy, but it's the case of the whole population.
01:05:08
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In general, you see, it's the countries where there is a king, finally.
01:05:11
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I think that it's still a bit of a problem, but I think that when you have a country with a king,
01:05:17
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even today, even if it's archaic, there are people who are very attached to their country.
01:05:20
Speaker
So it's not the case for everyone, if you want.
01:05:23
Speaker
It's difficult to say, you know, we'll be able to do the borders and create a world community.
01:05:28
Speaker
Maybe, but I think it's not the challenge of the moment.
01:05:30
Speaker
And I think it's going to be a replacement, for sure.
01:05:41
Speaker
And it's there that will be the nuance.
01:05:43
Speaker
Are we going to be able to co-incide both?
01:05:46
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Co-habiter, it's going to be the real challenge, it's going to be the two systems, the two economies parallely, if you want.
01:05:53
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So yes, it's going to be a real challenge, but for me, we're in a sector, if you want, which is enormous, we don't even know.
01:06:02
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But it's like Internet, it's 25 years.
01:06:04
Speaker
I see the same kind of transformation.
01:06:06
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If I had to take a comparatif, I would compare it to Internet.
01:06:08
Speaker
But even more.
01:06:11
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For me, I think that this comparison, before I took it too, because it seemed quite true.
01:06:20
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And more I encounter the ecosystem, more I understand it.
01:06:25
Speaker
And the more I think it's not the font.
01:06:27
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While the internet has a notion of interface, it's a bit, it's a bit, it's a bit, it's a bit, it's a bit, it's a bit, it's a bit, it's a bit, I feel that these technologies, they go even more far, they go even more far.
01:06:39
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It's still more far, because behind you, you have a real economic factor.
01:06:44
Speaker
In addition to the revolution, you have the economic factor which makes
01:06:49
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but all the way it is, it's actually even more enormous.
01:06:52
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In other words, in terms of revolution, for giving a little bit, I'm like you, I'm still looking at it, but for trying to imagine a little bit the revolution of Internet, we're a little in the same revolution, and then after, with some issues that we're not even aware of, and it's actually, yes, it's going to be a little bit, but we need it.
01:07:17
Speaker
The world is not around.
01:07:20
Speaker
So, what do we need?
01:07:23
Speaker
When we used internet for the first time, it was 25 or 24 years ago, we would not imagine... It would have been impossible to imagine that things like Facebook, that things like Airbnb, that things like Instagram, and at the end, they would be completely part of our daily lives.
01:07:40
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And there, we are also... The blockchain, it's...
01:07:44
Speaker
It's been 14 years since it's there and we haven't scratched the surface.
01:07:50
Speaker
You've got a good example with Uber.
01:07:53
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Uber comes from the revolution Internet.
01:07:56
Speaker
Uber has changed a lot of things.
01:07:57
Speaker
Everything is Uberized in the world.
01:08:04
Speaker
So it has been a lot of things and finally it's the same, it's a papillon.
01:08:10
Speaker
You have internet, you have internet, and then you have a lot of stuff happening and I think we're going to live this revolution.
01:08:16
Speaker
In the NFT there is a coexistence with the art tradition which is inevitable, for sure.
01:08:23
Speaker
The traditional world is a very big market.
01:08:26
Speaker
It's enormous.
01:08:28
Speaker
Global, we touch on sectors that are the most big sectors.
01:08:31
Speaker
You have also the gaming.
01:08:32
Speaker
Today, you have games that say, instead of having weapons and skins inutilisables, after that, we're not going to use NFT.
01:08:41
Speaker
On not even know, because it's the beginning.
01:08:43
Speaker
But it's huge.
01:09:17
Speaker
But if you want, you don't have to need it.
01:09:20
Speaker
And that, it changes everything.
01:09:21
Speaker
I like, again, I'm in the...
01:09:23
Speaker
I'm in the choice.
01:09:24
Speaker
I like when everyone can choose what they want.
01:09:28
Speaker
We should all have the choice in everything.
01:09:31
Speaker
Yeah, it's clear.
01:09:33
Speaker
And it's the most important thing in all of this.
01:09:36
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There are people who won't take it, who won't choose.
01:09:41
Speaker
Like, you and me, I make the choice of completely leaving the fact that I use Touch ID and I leave my data as they want and I don't care about it.
01:09:51
Speaker
And you're the opposite.
01:09:52
Speaker
There, we're talking about economic and property.
01:09:56
Speaker
It's not just a few points of data, but it's a lot more and it's open to possibilities that you leave.
01:10:05
Speaker
I think we have a lot of beautiful things in front of us.
01:10:10
Speaker
Every cycle in life has its own revolutions.
01:10:13
Speaker
And I think that today it's our chance.
01:10:17
Speaker
We can enter into a domain where we are still at the beginning and there's something crazy.
01:10:26
Speaker
So yes, we have a lot of chance.
01:10:27
Speaker
Can you call my mother and say that please?
01:10:30
Speaker
Because I can't explain to her, she's not conscious.
01:10:33
Speaker
It's not easy.
01:10:34
Speaker
It's not easy.
01:10:35
Speaker
It's the values that change, you know.
01:10:39
Speaker
Well, the values that change not really, but the way to apply it, yes.
01:10:42
Speaker
And so it can be perturbant.
01:10:45
Speaker
But I'm sure that...
01:10:47
Speaker
that your father, when you're at age of your mother, will explain things that you won't understand.
01:10:52
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I hope not.
01:10:53
Speaker
Let me see.
01:10:54
Speaker
Let me see.
01:10:54
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I hope I'll be always as free and open.
01:10:56
Speaker
It's all the mal that I can wish.
01:10:58
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I propose to talk a little bit about crypto masks in a little bit more depth, because it's your project of life, it's your baby, it's something that's something that's what I'm doing to my heart and who is...
Cryptomask Community Core Values and Projects
01:11:11
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something that I'm going to return regularly, as an example, as inspiration, as I know there are very beautiful people.
01:11:18
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What is really fantastic is that 99% of the communities who have been created around NFT are transactionally.
01:11:24
Speaker
They are really in an objective of buying for winning.
01:11:28
Speaker
It's an investment in short, in medium or long term,
01:11:32
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you spend some time with Cryptomasques and you find that it's just people who have paid a bill of entry because there is an artist who was there and there is a company that is creating and that it is also a little bit of a work but what
01:11:50
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the most is really its values.
01:11:52
Speaker
Could you describe a few words for those who don't know what is Cryptomask and what's happening inside the crypto project?
01:12:00
Speaker
The Cryptomask project has been launched with a very simple objective.
01:12:05
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It's to gather a active community, who is ready to learn, share, build and encourage each other.
01:12:12
Speaker
That's the goal of BAL.
01:12:14
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There was no more important reflection.
01:12:17
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I actually thought about a lot of utility, because I think we can link the utility to the enjoyable, and it would be a bad thing to just be happy to have an image, even if it's an image made by an artist,
01:12:31
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And I think that 8 Project is already quite well.
01:12:36
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He's already quite well known.
01:12:38
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But I think that's really a big future of art.
01:12:41
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He's really known, known.
01:12:42
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And that's why I've been able to do that with him.
01:12:45
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I felt something.
01:12:47
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The same way I felt something for Pascal Boyard the first time I saw one of his fresques.
01:12:53
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I've shared it on Instagram in 2017 or 2018, I believe.
01:12:59
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he had a QR code in bitcoin which allowed donations etc.
01:13:02
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I found it extraordinary it became a very big one I had the same feeling with Lucho Poletti it was the same Lucho is the reference in CryptoArts also
01:13:15
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And I think sincerely that IT Project will make a noise in the next years.
01:13:19
Speaker
I have more confirmation in the future.
01:13:21
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Between the time you have Gary Vee who is going to buy his own, you have also great collectors who have an eye that is not the same as the mien, who are on him, who are on him, who are on him, who are on him.
01:13:32
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And all these things are saying that he is part of a very large future.
01:13:36
Speaker
And so we have the chance to have NFT who are drawn by IT Project by this future.
01:13:41
Speaker
We have actually...
01:13:43
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a community of start which is incredible.
01:13:45
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And of course, if the project of the marketplace, because we will take it all to a little bit, but if you want to do it quickly, we will launch the second project Cryptomast from the beginning.
01:13:57
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I announced that I put all my energy in it for something big and for that it becomes a galaxy.
01:14:03
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So in the meantime, this year, we will have a BD that will be released.
01:14:08
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on will have a marketplace, an event recurrent.
01:14:12
Speaker
So there are plenty of things created to transform the project in galaxy.
01:14:16
Speaker
The NFT is always the essence of the project, and the holders of these collections are always gated, always put in front, always privileged.
01:14:27
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I keep it at the center of all this.
01:14:30
Speaker
The collections rest the sun in the galaxy.
01:14:33
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And around this sun will gravitate the marketplace, the BD.
01:14:40
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There is a collection of clothes, also, made by a creator.
01:14:44
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All this, all this sort, there are plenty of things that are in the course, with a NFC in each vatement, whether it be a shirt, a hoodie, you have a piece in it.
01:14:54
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which allows you to scan it.
01:14:56
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There's a whole concept.
01:14:59
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I try to do well things.
01:15:00
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There are many sites that make like that, in white, white, and you call your stuff.
01:15:04
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That's not at all what I've been looking for.
01:15:06
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I want to always do it in ultra-quality.
01:15:07
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I think that's why it takes a little more time for the collection than what I imagined.
01:15:11
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I'm going to be in a business that I didn't really know.
01:15:16
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Even if I'm surrounded by people competent and I work with a creator in direct, the creators are always in their stuff.
01:15:22
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They always offer their stuff.
01:15:23
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Every morning, they have ideas.
01:15:24
Speaker
Every morning, they have other ideas.
01:15:26
Speaker
It's another way.
01:15:28
Speaker
It's a different world, but it's a lot of passion and so there's a galaxy that develops around the project.
01:15:35
Speaker
The goal is not to be in self-reporting, to say, we're going to feed the project
01:15:42
Speaker
par des royalties, ça permet de faire des airdrops, et bon, ça fait une boucle effectivement qui est cohérente, mais c'est une petite boucle.
01:15:50
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Je cherche vraiment à grandir cette boucle.
01:15:52
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La marketplace va faire gagner de l'argent au projet, qui grâce à ça va pouvoir faire des airdrops qui sont plus importants
01:15:58
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to the community, to the cadeau, everything is lié.
01:16:02
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When you have a crypto mask or a dark mask, you will be able to have advantages on the marketplace.
01:16:08
Speaker
Everything gives you a advantage.
01:16:10
Speaker
And the goal is to develop like that, without precipitation, without wanting to do too much.
01:16:15
Speaker
because of wanting to do too much, you always find a little wrong.
01:16:19
Speaker
That's not the goal.
01:16:20
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I was on a lot of the team, but I'm not going to develop them.
01:16:24
Speaker
I'm looking forward to it.
01:16:26
Speaker
They are not controlled.
01:16:27
Speaker
There's nothing to do.
01:16:28
Speaker
I would have tried to release the Houdiz there not so long because it's what I had planned to do.
01:16:34
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But at all the time, the artist, the creator, makes more proposals than what I had seen before.
01:16:39
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So I find it a bad thing to say, well, because it's better than that, because I'm pressed, I don't have the right choice.
01:16:44
Speaker
Because we're pressed, we're going to wait.
01:16:46
Speaker
And when everything will be done, it will be out.
01:16:49
Speaker
So we're not on a project...
01:16:57
Speaker
where there's an announcement, there's a hype.
01:17:00
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The goal is not to do that.
01:17:01
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I try to do a lot of work, always stay in the act of the event.
01:17:05
Speaker
There are regular events, there is soon a competition that will come out with the rewards.
01:17:09
Speaker
I try to keep an eye on the light, it's important.
01:17:11
Speaker
We have a active community, etc.
01:17:12
Speaker
It's still important to continue, despite all the development of the chantier, it's still the case.
01:17:19
Speaker
that we don't forget the project for all, and we don't forget everything.
01:17:23
Speaker
It's just to do things.
01:17:23
Speaker
We're in September, it's the entry, there's an adaptation to do, but the crypto masks, from the beginning, it's it.
01:17:29
Speaker
It's an entry, it's people who connect with us because they know that if they need a advice,
01:17:40
Speaker
It's a little weird thing that they can explain.
01:17:43
Speaker
They ask the question and we'll have to answer anyone.
01:17:48
Speaker
And we have this image, we have created this image of Cryptomas.
01:17:52
Speaker
We are a little bit like... Not like heroes, but...
01:17:58
Speaker
of the ecosystem, always there to give a hand.
01:18:00
Speaker
So, there is this aspect that is very important, but also, with the marketplace, 50%, 70% of the team
01:18:13
Speaker
which will be the team on the paper team core, if you want.
01:18:15
Speaker
It's a crypto-mask, in fact.
01:18:17
Speaker
But that's a chance, because we have huge talents.
01:18:20
Speaker
And in addition to that, I had the possibility, for almost two years, to exchange daily with these people who have each their own skills.
01:18:27
Speaker
And then, there, we're on a new team, a new team, but of people who are used to work together.
01:18:31
Speaker
We're used to know, we're often talking about it.
01:18:33
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And so, it's not everyone.
01:18:34
Speaker
In fact, it's like if we had a period of two years
01:18:42
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And now that we decided that, thanks to this period of time, we can build a team for the next step, to pass another step.
01:18:51
Speaker
And so yes, there will be other people who will be greffing, of course, because we need to have other profiles and internationalize a little bit the stuff for this marketplace.
01:19:00
Speaker
But it's a great chance to have found all these talents in the same place.
01:19:05
Speaker
And today we say, one year and a half after, we'll all work together, we'll all do this.
01:19:10
Speaker
Because we'll all do this.
01:19:11
Speaker
We change all of orientation.
01:19:13
Speaker
It's an amazing human adventure, which is what starts.
01:19:16
Speaker
We're still still in the beginning.
01:19:18
Speaker
I have the ambition to bring the project
01:19:29
Speaker
to my life, I have no limit.
01:19:32
Speaker
So yes, we are on an incredible adventure.
01:19:35
Speaker
I have to stop there, but I have also a little more to know about the marketplace.
01:19:39
Speaker
Why a new marketplace?
01:19:40
Speaker
Where is the idea of the new marketplace?
01:19:43
Speaker
What do you want to do differently?
01:19:46
Speaker
I can't tell you all right, it would be bad.
01:19:48
Speaker
But the start of the thought
01:19:53
Speaker
I think a little like all the projects.
01:19:55
Speaker
Everyone has to think about that.
01:19:57
Speaker
From the moment where the royalties are becoming more obligatory, the investors choose if they want to pay or not.
01:20:05
Speaker
There is something that has been reduced.
01:20:08
Speaker
Blur is arrived with a model that has reduced a little bit.
01:20:11
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And so there are projects that have gained a lot of money.
01:20:13
Speaker
Effectivement, during an hour and a half, two years,
01:20:21
Speaker
and who, I hope, are well with their funds.
01:20:23
Speaker
But, we have a problem of deep depth.
01:20:26
Speaker
One of the things that, if they didn't count on their economic model, they would continue to live like that on the royalties.
01:20:32
Speaker
And then, I think it's not safe to focus only on royalties for a project.
01:20:37
Speaker
But, it's a source of revenue.
01:20:40
Speaker
And there are also all artists, who, they, they, they,
01:20:47
Speaker
It's normal to see royalties on the ground.
01:20:52
Speaker
So there was a real problem there.
01:20:58
Speaker
The idea of the beginning was to say, we'll make a marketplace for our collections.
Collaborations and Marketplace Vision
01:21:03
Speaker
You have Ape Project who proposed to us to join us in the stuff.
01:21:07
Speaker
So if there are our collections, there is also the collection of Ape Project.
01:21:37
Speaker
The Bored Ape, they don't have a marketplace today.
01:21:39
Speaker
I don't understand how they don't have a marketplace.
01:21:41
Speaker
I don't understand why they don't have a marketplace.
01:21:43
Speaker
The Bored Ape, I don't understand, it's the most important volume on OpenSea.
01:21:48
Speaker
They gave a lot of money.
01:21:50
Speaker
It would have been better for their community if they had done a marketplace with zero frais marketplace, but respect royalties.
01:21:58
Speaker
Well, finally, all the investors would pay less than everyone is earning.
01:22:01
Speaker
And then I don't know why they would want to go to OpenSea.
01:22:06
Speaker
But the start idea, if you want, was to get a little bit of the royalties and then qu'on quitte OpenSea.
01:22:13
Speaker
It's not only for the royalties.
01:22:15
Speaker
There's also the fact of quitting this marketplace, which is good.
01:22:19
Speaker
It's a lot of money.
01:22:20
Speaker
It's a lot of money.
01:22:21
Speaker
It's a lot of money.
01:22:22
Speaker
It's a lot of money.
01:22:23
Speaker
So it was a lot of money.
01:22:27
Speaker
That was a bit of the beginning.
01:22:29
Speaker
Now, we have a mission that is more important today.
01:22:32
Speaker
How do we start?
01:22:33
Speaker
We start with only artists.
01:22:36
Speaker
The goal is to list the collections of artists who will be chosen and parrain by other artists, if you want.
01:22:43
Speaker
So there is a curation of collections already made at the beginning.
01:22:49
Speaker
If you type the name of an artist, you will not have, like on OpenSea,
01:22:53
Speaker
15 collections to be a false collection.
01:22:56
Speaker
So there is also this idea of... The good....to be able to make sure the collections, but not all the collections.
01:23:05
Speaker
So we will choose the collections that we will list.
01:23:07
Speaker
Like a exchange platform, like Binance, in saying, we will list this token.
01:23:12
Speaker
With a much clearer choice,
01:23:18
Speaker
What can do Binance on the choice of tokens?
01:23:22
Speaker
Of course, we want a transparent platform, just, which makes the royalties to artists, but also to reward everyone.
01:23:32
Speaker
The buyers, the investors, the artists, it's necessary to be beneficial for everyone and to be recompensed for using this platform.
01:23:39
Speaker
It's a bit of the goal of this platform.
Platform Goals and Development
01:23:43
Speaker
Then we have a mission which is much more extended.
01:23:46
Speaker
We have for mission with this platform, at our level, to democratize the art numérique, in transparency, in security, and to combate a fossilized today.
01:24:00
Speaker
There are two platforms that monopolize the market.
01:24:03
Speaker
It's not sain, it's not sain.
01:24:05
Speaker
So we don't have to go right away to go up to see OpenSea or Blur, even if it's in the idea, but we'll take our time to do it.
01:24:12
Speaker
We have resources to do it.
01:24:15
Speaker
And so, the idea of the start has evolved to finally say,
01:24:21
Speaker
why, beyond our collections and two or three collections of artists, why don't we do not want a real platform?
01:24:30
Speaker
We are not going to be a real competitor.
01:24:31
Speaker
And then, how it is developed?
01:24:33
Speaker
I can't tell you what it will do with our platform.
01:24:35
Speaker
I can't tell you, but I can't tell you, because I just finished the dossier for the raise of funds, because we are going to search for funds,
01:24:42
Speaker
I could tell you that I have everything still in mind, but I prefer to keep a part of mystery and suspense there-dessus.
01:24:51
Speaker
But there is this one that is developing, it's the big role of this year, I would say.
01:24:59
Speaker
the two years to come, finally.
01:25:01
Speaker
And then there's always everything that was planned from the beginning.
01:25:05
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All in keeping this force.
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You can't say or I'm not sure.
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If you keep this brillance... Listen, if you keep this brillance... If you keep this brillance, consider that you've already signed, there's no more to do.
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Assieds-toi.
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No, no, but I sign for...
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for our future ecosystem, for our future NFT, they will go to you, it's sure.
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and you will be the reference.
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It's with great pleasure.
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No, but it's very good.
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Thank you.
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It's great.
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It's great.
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It's a pleasure to see.
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Because mine of nothing, you have helped me to put my project in value from the beginning.
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And we, our project has invested in Cryptomask.
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We have always our four masks.
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I think we never will be separated.
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Maybe we will find more.
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And I was there since the beginning.
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I remember your announcement on Telegram and seeing how you don't let you put and put it on the market and that you have your vision and that you're entourated of beautiful people who help you to put it
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in place.
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I've already told you to say it's a few times and I'm told you to inspire myself.
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I think you inspire others.
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And thank you for everything you do and thank you for coming today.
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Thank you for your time, thank you for all these words.
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It's very nice.
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And then, since the beginning, you're there too.
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You're also there to build.
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You have a vision and a way of thinking which is very saine, if you want.
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And that I love it.
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When you do things, it's because you're persuaded that it's something that's something that's positive, just.
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and that you're aligned with your values.
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So it's obviously a pleasure to be here today, but even every time we talk, we're talking about the phone, I'm always satisfied with our conversation.
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For the anecdote, the last time we talked about it was the last week, and I'm talking about it and I'm talking about my wife and I'm talking about it and I'm talking about it and I'm talking about it and I'm talking about it and I'm talking about it and I'm talking about it.
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like that, like that, like that, you know, just recently, you didn't know what I was looking for, I didn't know what you were looking for, and so it was just by the voice and messages, and the fact of creating these relationships, I found that very beautiful.
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So thank you for your words, it's been a pleasure to hear.
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Listen, continue to do what you do, it's fine, of any kind.
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And I think you found a segment that you like.
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I hope you're the best for the next one.
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And we'll be in contact with great pleasure.
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Thank you all for listening to this podcast podcast.
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You'll probably find Cryptomath.
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And in any case, it will be linked everywhere.
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N'hésitez not to watch it.
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N'hésitez not to watch it.
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N'hésitez not to watch it.
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Thank you very much and good evening.