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Lyme Disease and Polio are not caused by Microbes! - Jacob Diaz (Undercover Virologist)
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We are so happy to have Mr. Diaz join us again for another episode. This week we delve into why Lyme disease is not caused by bacteria, as well as other potential explanations for this illness/diagnosis. We cover the diagnosis, the laboratory tests, and much more.
Similarly, we explore the story of polio and investigate other reasons why people were getting paralyzed. We also discuss why "polio," or at least polio symptomology, has not been eradicated. This discussion raises the question of whether viruses have been proven to exist, but for that topic, refer to the episode with Jamie Andrews.
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Introduction and Praise for Past Collaborations
00:00:01
beyondterrain
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Beyond Terrain podcast. I'm your host, Liam Dalton. We got the man again today, Jacob Diaz, the undercover biologist. I love it. um This man, obviously you guys definitely listen to a first episode together. If you haven't go check that one out. ah This man does some amazing work. He's very well versed in the terrain. um I love chatting with this guy. He's got a good energy. I loved her last episode too, man. I had so much fun recording it. I listened back
In-depth Discussions and Logic in Virology
00:00:28
beyondterrain
on it. It was, it was awesome, man. Like, uh,
00:00:31
beyondterrain
I think we riff off each other pretty well. So ah so happy to have you back on, dude.
00:00:37
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Dude, I'm hype. Yeah, I love that episode. I love all your episodes, especially the last one with Jamie and that project. Loved it. um Yeah, great energy. You guys, you always go deep, and that's why I like to do.
00:00:48
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
I like to go deep into the information, help people actually see what's going on, and using their own sources against them. That's a big thing, and we're gonna do that today. So whenever whenever you're ready, let's shoot.
00:00:58
beyondterrain
yeah
00:01:01
beyondterrain
Dude, that episode with Jamie was insane, man. He is he' is on the forefront, and I really appreciate his work. It's so funny like hearing arguments against Jamie and his work from sort of the other side from the germ theory people.
00:01:14
beyondterrain
It's just so flawed. They're like, like one of the funniest things that I heard was, so you disagree with the methodology used in virology. What are your thoughts on Jamie Andrews methodology?
00:01:26
beyondterrain
I'm like, it's the same methodology. It just shows that it's false.
00:01:30
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah
00:01:30
beyondterrain
Like
Critique of Virology Methodologies
00:01:31
beyondterrain
that's, that's the point that it's flawed.
00:01:31
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Exactly, yeah, I
00:01:35
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
I see the same response. I'm like, bro, there's no way these people are that dense. i And the excuses they make, oh, it's all the proteinomics. Oh, bro, we haven't gotten there yet.
00:01:46
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
But just the CPE, that's and the the Twitter is like, it's insane because they're always like, oh, CPE means virus. But it doesn't mean virus when Jamie does it. It's like, it's a different CPE.
00:01:58
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
It's just, hopefully at the very least this shows how, how just, there's no logic in virology whatsoever. Even for people that don't understand virology, they can just look at it and be like, oh yeah.
00:02:06
beyondterrain
yeah and
00:02:11
beyondterrain
The other funny response is that, that yeah.
00:02:13
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And there's no logic with what we're talking about today.
00:02:17
beyondterrain
Um, the other funny response that I hear all the time with the, with Jamie Andrews stuff is like, you know, um, there are multiple causes to CPE.
00:02:17
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Go ahead.
00:02:18
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah. Yeah.
00:02:26
beyondterrain
It doesn't necessarily disprove virology's use of it. look But it, but it does because I'm going through and I'm reading these studies on virology. I'm looking at them and it's like 2% fetal bovine serum.
00:02:39
beyondterrain
I'm like, that is exactly what Jamie Andrews does in half the cell culture dies. Like this is the, it's the most obvious confounding variable that's ever been in science and we completely overlook it.
00:02:45
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And.
00:02:52
beyondterrain
It's absurd. It's just truly absurd.
00:02:56
beyondterrain
But anyways.
00:02:57
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah, and the fact that they're so quick to be like, CPE can be caused by four or five different factors, but they never question that when they're doing their own virology studies. they the CPE all automatically equates the virus, but they're never going to check for the the the broth or some you know bacteria going in there, something. They're they're never going to question that. So it's funny that they pull all of these excuses out of the woodwork when Jamie does it, but they don't question themselves with what they do. And so I'm just seeing a bunch of hypocrisy from that side, which is not surprising, but it is what it is.
00:03:33
beyondterrain
It is what it is, man. That's how it goes. um Yeah, Jamie's doing amazing work. ah Definitely go check that podcast out if you have a listen to it or look into any of Jamie Andrews works.
00:03:40
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yes.
00:03:42
beyondterrain
It's really, it's on the forefront.
00:03:42
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Hmm.
00:03:44
beyondterrain
It's a pure falsification of virology. ah you know There's really no way around it, you know especially when you if you read any of the literature on virology, you'll see that but It is exactly what Jamie Andrews is disproving and everything relies on it. and you know The only argument for any sort of genomics or proteomics, it's unscientific because we're not isolating variables, first of all, but you know the only saving grace would be CPE and it would be these cytopathic effect studies. right and and it's just If that's falsified, really, virology stands on this, so definitely go check that out.
00:04:19
beyondterrain
and
Implications of Flawed Virology Studies
00:04:20
beyondterrain
It's really helpful to sort of understand that as a base too, because then it applies to every single virus out there, you know? So you can just understand that if this method is falsified, it doesn't matter if we're talking about polio, it doesn't matter if we're talking about and seasonal flu or COVID or monkey pox or any pox virus, any nonsense virus disease, all of it relies on the same methodology. And if the methodology becomes falsified,
00:04:49
beyondterrain
then the whole thing falls apart. um But today, when we were sort of talking a little bit about this before, um having an understanding of other potential causes is really important. And ah hopefully we're going to delve into it a little bit more today. We're going to talk about three specific um germ diseases today. We got Lyme, polio, and tuberculosis.
00:05:14
beyondterrain
um I know Jacob is is well versed in these, so I'm really happy to have him come on and talk about these. and I think getting into the specifics, you know we've disproved it. like we'll We'll talk a little bit about that in the specifics there. Obviously, when it comes to the contagion side of things, you know well, if ah if a tick's not causing Lyme, what is? you know Stuff like that.
00:05:35
beyondterrain
um It's really important that we get that other side, that other explanation. That's what we're going to do today. And, you know, moving forward on this podcast, I'd love to sort of cover a lot of of more specific diseases and address that alternative because, you know, where I stand with any sort of sliver of objectivity,
00:05:41
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Okay. Okay.
00:05:53
beyondterrain
Virology has been completely falsified and there's just no way around that if we're gonna take a true Empirical point of view and empiricism is flawed. Don't get me wrong. But if we're gonna use empiricism, we need to use it properly um And the methods been falsified and it's just nonsense. There's
Lyme Disease: Diagnosis and Misconceptions
00:06:10
beyondterrain
absolutely no logic behind it ah Virology is is completely illogical and and you can hear that in the arguments used for the germ theory any sort of scientist that speaks on the subject Go adheres to ad hominem arguments circular reasoning. They don't even know how to define circular reasoning I was questioned on circular reason I said
00:06:29
beyondterrain
Yeah, circular reasoning is when the conclusion affirms the premise and they're like, no, that's not the definition. I'm like, that is exactly what circular reasoning is actually.
00:06:36
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
It's literally the definition.
00:06:37
beyondterrain
So there's no understanding. It's, it's absurd, man.
00:06:40
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
yeah
00:06:40
beyondterrain
It's absurd. All right. So Jacob, I want to give you the floor a little bit. Uh, I just want to hear you go off and, uh, maybe start us off. What's the, where's the best place to start with this sort of discussion? Let's start with lime and, and, uh, we'll just say sort of take it from there.
00:06:51
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Oh man. ah Of course, I would gladly take the baton. So Lyme disease is unfortunately becoming the long COVID, if you will. Everyone wants to blame everything on Lyme disease, stealth Lyme, chronic Lyme, acute Lyme, whatever. People are going to blame all of their symptoms to Lyme disease. And I just finished right now my Lyme podcast, which will come out shortly after ah this podcast.
00:07:24
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
ah but I was reading all this information and I was just like, wow, these people really duped everybody. So with with Lyme disease specifically, there are 50 symptoms associated with Lyme disease, 50, five, zero. So right then and there, your case definition, your differential diagnosis, everything is completely out the window. You can call anything Lyme disease at any given time. And that's what they want people to do.
00:07:53
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
because when you create such a broad diagnosis, you can get anybody to take any drug you want. So when people are coming to me, to you, to anybody in the terrain camp, oh, but what if I have Lyme disease? I was diagnosed with X disease this time. They're automatically associating that it must be Lyme because that's what they're told it is. So what I did, as with any other any other person should logically do,
00:08:15
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
go to the evidence yourself and see if they actually proved that there was ever a spirochete bacteria causing Lyme. So that's what they say. They say a bacteria is in the tick, the tick bites you and in that salivary gland, the bacteria goes into your bloodstream and wreaks havoc. That's what they say. But is that the case? So it really, kind it all started in the seventies within old Lyme, Connecticut, where people had like inflammation, arthritis, malaise. They had these odd symptoms that were very similar to symptoms in ah Europe during that time.
00:08:51
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And but ah William Bergdorfer is the guy's name. In 1982, he stated that he found the calls the causal factor in the disease, which was namely the spirochete bacteria, which was named after him. Boreala burgdorferi. So when you look at these studies, and we'll talk about a couple of them, you read them, you're like,
00:09:15
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
When did they ever prove that this germ was the cause? they All they say at the at very best is an association. And that's what we see a lot with germ theory. Not even with virology as a whole, they're just straight up lying. There's no virus. With germ with the the germ theory or microbiology, you do have a germ.
00:09:35
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
It's there. it's It's associated maybe with a disease process, but it's not the cause because we talk about coke spatulas all the time. If you find the germ in healthy people and you can't find it in every single case of disease, logically it cannot be the cause. It's something else going on there and the germ is simply responding.
00:09:55
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So in the in the source study I mentioned from ah after old Lyme in Connecticut, they took 126 ticks and evaluated them. This was out of Shelter Island, New York, and only 60 percent of them had a positive for the spirochete bacteria. So right then and there you're like, OK, so all these ticks supposedly carrying Lyme disease, only 60 percent of them had the bacteria.
00:10:22
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So what exactly is going on here? And then they did a supposed contagion study where they took rabbits and they tied them up. It was eight rabbits and they took 300 ticks all with supposed line and they had them bite their stomach just incessantly. And right then and then that's not a controlled experiment, which we can talk about experiments.
00:10:43
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
I mean, you would want three groups in that experiment. The first group would be ticks biting the the rabbits that don't have the bacteria. The second group would be um it would be ah the the rabbits simply being allowed to be bitten by ticks that don't have the bacteria. And the third one would be just the bacteria. So you would want three groups. The bacteria, ticks with no bacteria, ticks with bacteria.
00:11:06
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
They didn't do that. They just tied these poor rabbits up and had their their abdomens bitten to death. And none of the rabbits came back positive for life. None of them. Zero out of eight. And I'm like, OK, there's no freaking way they use this as proof, but they do use it as proof. And in the ticks, it was 300 ticks. They did.
00:11:29
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
It was like, I forget specifically in the study, but a lot of them didn't even have the spirochete in them. And then you have the rabbits, none of them testing positive for the bacteria. So where did you prove that there was a contagious organism in the tick leading to disease in the rabbits? They never proved it. What they did was they designed an antibody test.
00:11:51
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And that antibody test came back as positive in the rabbits that were bitten to near death. And what's funny is that the the ah the rash, so people will say, oh, I developed a rash for Lyme disease, the erythema migrans, that's what it's called. It took the rabbits almost three months to develop the rash.
00:12:12
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So it's like, you don't even know if the if the rash is associated with the tick at that point. It's been three months, and none of them came back positive. So you design an antibody test to then say, oh yeah, it must be specific to Lyme disease, even though they test healthy animals and healthy people, and lo and behold, antibodies come back positive. So right then and there, you're like, you don't know what's going on here. And i and later on in in the post I made that I used as reference,
00:12:41
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
There are so many studies where they cite, yeah, high antibody levels for Lyme disease doesn't mean anything because many times they don't even have any symptoms or they do have symptoms and very low antibodies or healthy people have antibodies. Unhealthy people have high antibodies. It's all over the place. So this is what they designed as the indirect proof that there was a supposed contagious organism.
00:13:06
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And then later on, Bergdorfer did another study that cited in an encyclopedia called Lyme disease and relapsing fever. So they cited a paper, it was done in 1982 and 1983, where they isolated a pathogen from a human that was cultured from a black-legged deer. And this was out of Long Island in Westchester.
00:13:29
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So it was a bunch of people that supposedly had Lyme disease. It was 36 in total. Right. So when you hear this, you're like, OK, they isolated a pathogen. They must have proved that there was an actual bacteria causing this illness. So 36 patients.
00:13:43
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Guess how many tests of positive for this bacteria? Two. It was two out of 36 people tested positive for this supposed passion pathogen. And this paper to this day is stated to be the proof that quote, that they defined the bacterial's ideological role in the disease, even though 34 out of 36 line patients did not have the bacteria. But what they do,
00:14:13
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
they make excuses. And this creates an unfalsifiable theory. They actually stated that the bacteria in laymen were good at hiding. They literally said that, that the bacteria hid, that there maybe wasn't enough to see in the in the sample. and um'm And I'm thinking logically, it's like, okay, if they have Lyme disease, which is supposedly a bacterial illness,
00:14:37
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Why can't you find the bacteria? And a human is so much bigger than a bacteria. Do you know how much bacteria would need to invade a person to cause illness, yet there's no bacteria to be found and they're just hiding? like That's just unfalsifiable. You can't disprove it because all they do is make excuses and all they do is make up a story. That's what they do. And then later on in the slides, I go into studies that showed that not only are the antibody tests completely useless, and this was actually stated by Burgdorfer, William Burgdorfer, the guy they named the bacteria after, he said that serological studies based on Lyme disease have to be completely redone. Because not only are they based on shoddy evidence, but it's based on people that already know the results of their experiments, so they're they're doing it for money.
00:15:29
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So he said that and a bunch of other other studies agree, but they're mainly about antibiotics. And that goes into what people want to talk about regarding what really is the cause of Lyme disease. What happens is you have somebody that may or may not be bitten by a tick. Right. Well, fine. Ticks are bugs. They're a bit of a nuisance, but it is what it is. buds Bugs, bugs bite you. Most bugs have foreign proteins in their salivary glands.
00:15:58
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And in those salivary glands, they have enzymes. Sometimes they may be ah toxic, maybe not. But once that gets into your dermal area, into your bloodstream, your body's intelligent design is to remove it because it doesn't belong in there. So now you get inflammation. You may develop a rash, fine, whatever.
00:16:16
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
They claim erythema migraines is specific, even though we know and many studies cited in my post state that it's not specific. If you look at pictures of erythema migraines, they look basically indistinguishable from regular bug bites, or even eczema for that matter, so you don't you can't use that as a proof.
00:16:35
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So what you have here is a bug that bites you. Fine, it is what it is. Instead of going to your home and just doing regular natural protocols, whether to put some raw honey on there, let it drain, put some bentonite clay, activated charcoal, whatever you oregano oil, whatever you can do, they don't do that. They run to the hospital.
00:16:56
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
The doctors, since they don't know what they're doing, they'll claim it's line because a tick was involved. And then they'll put you on a two to 12 week ah cycle of antibiotics, different antibiotics, like doxycycline, amoxicillin, all these different things. And what do antibiotics do?
00:17:14
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
They acidify the heck out of your tissues, the interstitial fluids, they destroy your adrenals, they destroy your microbiome. And now you get worse. Now you get weaker. What previously was just a simple cut that may lead to certain flu-like symptoms for a day or two has now led to a chronic illness that had been exacerbated because of the antibiotics that you continually, continually take.
00:17:40
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And then they want to blame the actual tick because it started at that day. And what's funny is that there's a disease called tick toxicosis or tick paralysis that when you look at the symptoms, they're literally the same symptoms as Lyme disease. The problem is that if there's not a tick still on you, they're not going to diagnosis as tick toxicosis.
00:18:05
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
so the ticks still have to be in on you in the hospital for you for them to do it. But since most people logically will just remove it... they're gonna think it's Lyme disease. And that's like that's a big what? that's It's ridiculous, really. And a lot of the studies too, when they're talking about antibiotic use, they they'll say that antibiotics performed just as well or worse than placebo. And most of these studies are actually telling you to not do long-term antibiotic use, despite what many medical authorities will say.
00:18:38
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So the information is there. I maybe cited like 15, 20 PM IDs in this and this ah post, but people don't know about this because they just go to, again, they go to the doctor and the doctor says, take these antibiotics. When, why? Because they say the bacteria was proven to be the cause.
00:18:56
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
when it never was. And now you have a chronic illness that gets worse and now you want to develop antibody tests to test people when healthy people, unhealthy people test positive all the time. And what's funny with the antibody test is they admit that say you had a tick bite from like two, three years ago, antibody tests can still come back positive as if you have a current infection from three years ago. And now that they they still give you more antibiotics, even though the issue is not there anymore.
00:19:30
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So that's another issue of relying on these these tests that have never, again, been proven. And the the two final ah studies I cite in the post, and these are, again, this is really funny because people just simply don't know these exist. In this study, they they tested for borella burgdorferi in the isolated blood of patients with different forms of Lyme disease. One out of 53 patients had borella burgdorferi in their lymphatic system. So this was Lyme disease affecting the lymphatic system. Six out of 176 had a positive bacteria test for Lyme disease associated with the brain. One out of 13 found bacteria in Lyme arthritis and three out of 200 saw it in their rash.
00:20:20
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So there is no association whatsoever. The the the percentages are literally all below 7%. It's absolutely asinine that you can think that this has anything to do with Lyme disease. And then the next one, they took blood specimens of like a hundred people with ah Lyme disease like and cultured for the bacteria.
00:20:43
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Two people out of a hundred had a positive culture. So meaning 98 people with supposed Lyme disease did not have the bacteria in their blood. And then they go into different like subsets of these people where one out of seven were found in their brains. Like ah only eight of them were found in their skin, eight out of 31. So there's nothing there. There's literally nothing, no evidence to prove that the germ is the cause of this issue.
00:21:13
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
What I think is the issue is one, the the
Long-term Health Impacts and Misdiagnosis
00:21:16
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
the bug bite that has enzymes in there that are not supposed to be in your body, your body is exfoliating it, and instead of using your natural herbal concoctions or fasting or whatever, you run to the doctor and you dig antibiotics, which then gives you a chronic illness.
00:21:33
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
The other factor is the the inability to diagnose people correctly as as doctors because it's been known that Lyme disease is kind of like the end diagnosis doctors rely on because they don't know what's wrong with you. They'll just say, oh, it must be Lyme because you've seen 20 or 30 different specialists. We don't know what's wrong. Must be Lyme. Here, take an antibiotic. And then you're screwed.
00:22:00
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So I don't even know how many Lyme disease diagnoses are even associated with a tick bite because Dr. Harvey Biggleson in his book, he mentioned so many patients that were given this diagnosis and none of them had a tick bite. So they're just they're just saying it must be Lyme because we don't know what it is. And then people in my comments, in whatever the case, they'll say, I know Lyme is real because it was a bioweapon.
00:22:30
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And I'm like, oh, okay, again with this bioweapon nonsense. And what they do is they cite these like two different instances. One of them was out of Fort Detrick where they were actually trying to put like toxic cultures of bacterial waste or whatnot into ticks. The problem is the first cases were not in Maryland where Fort Detrick is, nowhere in the area. They were in upstate New York and Connecticut.
00:23:02
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So why are they in Connecticut, upstate New York, or Long Island, or Europe, but not in the immediate area of Fort Detrick and the immediate state? That makes no sense. And then the very first cases of supposed lime were out of Europe, and there was no bioweapon there.
00:23:19
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So what happened there? Was there a bioweapon agency happening and with ticks in Europe or is it just complete coincidence? It's coincidence. The other thing was people were saying they use ticks in Vietnam to get people sick or whatever. What they did was they tried to bioengineer ticks to eat the crops um for so the Vietnamese soldiers couldn't hide. That was the idea.
00:23:44
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
But you didn't see any Lyme disease proliferate after the Vietnamese War. You didn't see any of that. What you did see were people coming back sick because of the Agent Orange and all the the standing in stagnant water for eight or ten hours, being bombarded by mortars and stuff like that. You got people sick from that. You didn't get sick from any Lyme disease, which we didn't see in Vietnam. in vietnam So the whole bioweapon angle that people take to me is just more excuses because there is no actual proof that bacteria is the cause. The cause is probably the antibiotics. Really?
00:24:22
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And if your body really went into like a chronic detox process after a bug bite, I'm looking at your overall health because a healthy person can probably deal with a bug bite pretty well. Unless you're like really allergic to maybe a bee sting, for instance, your body is designed to handle that sort of stressor. If you just straight up start decaying after a bug bite, you were already almost there to very poor health.
00:24:49
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
which shows me that you have to reverse all of that and listen to your terrain. You're not getting enough nutrition. You're not opening up your detox pathways. And you just just started like deteriorating. And that's what it is. That's really what it is. Lyme disease has nothing to do with the bacteria. And I even hesitate to say that it has something to do with ticks, because again, most people with Lyme disease aren't even bitten by a tick. So that's that.
00:25:16
beyondterrain
Amazing, brother. Amazing. You know... I couldn't agree more with with your perspective on like the true cause here. Cause one, you mentioned there's 50 symptoms, right?
00:25:26
beyondterrain
So the diagnostics are all over the place. You're diagnosing, it's it's the replacement for calling something an idiopathic illness. So an idiopathic is like when the doctor doesn't know what's called.
00:25:36
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
00:25:37
beyondterrain
Now you just call it Lyme, right? It's like the cop out. It's the scapegoat, you know, now everything can be categorized as Lyme.
00:25:42
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
00:25:43
beyondterrain
So anything that we don't know, we slap that on. So that's one thing, right? And diagnostics have, terrible sensitivity and specificity overall. um so we don't like The false positives and false negatives are are through the roof with ah purely diagnostics. That's why we go to the lab. And then you go to the antibody test. Again, terrible specificity because antibodies are non-specific.
00:26:08
beyondterrain
anybody with high antibodies in their system. So anybody that is sick is going to test positive for any antibody test out there. We saw that with the antigen test, the COVID test, right? PCR was just random. Anybody could test positive because of the high cycle threshold. And with antibodies, anybody that was sick was testing positive, but people who were generally healthy, had no symptoms, weren't testing positive on that. So there was a huge disconnect there.
00:26:34
beyondterrain
um And so the diagnostics are an absolutely huge factor here. One thing that I find interesting with ah Lyme, I've been seeing it in my field like doing sort of counseling psychology
00:26:42
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Hmm.
00:26:50
beyondterrain
but seeing a lot of connection to trauma.
00:26:51
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Hmm.
00:26:53
beyondterrain
right And so within within, and not to say that trauma causes Lyme, but trauma causes chronic illnesses, 100% chance.
00:27:04
beyondterrain
right And so the problem is is that there are so many chronic illnesses that are now diagnosed as Lyme. right So now these illnesses that are caused by trauma are being caused are being diagnosed as Lyme because The medical establishment and practitioners have a lot of trouble with people with chronic illness.
00:27:26
beyondterrain
Because a lot of chronic illness is caused by trauma, you know your 15-minute doctor appointment is not enough to figure that out. so so The medical establishments and practitioners and doctors are unaware that trauma plays a significant role in chronic illness.
00:27:36
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Exactly.
00:27:41
beyondterrain
and so you know and you understand the frustration because if you are an allopathic doctor and you are really benevolent and you care about people's health and you know maybe you are just under the spell that every all the antibiotics work and the science is good whatever it is very frustrating to have somebody who come in with chronic pain and nothing works no antibiotics work no nothing works you just give them opioids and to help them numb out their trauma and so their chronic symptoms kind of go away you know But then you just call them pill seekers and whatever. so
00:28:13
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Exactly.
00:28:13
beyondterrain
you know it's it's It's kind of sad because you have these people with a chronic condition due to trauma. Now, if they did some proper trauma work, which we've discussed a little bit here. you know And there are some interesting modalities out there. We've discussed holographic manipulation therapy.
00:28:31
beyondterrain
Something I'm looking at getting trained in right now actually. um EMDR, I'm taking a course next week on it. There are so many different ways to approach trauma. Hell, even psychedelic ceremonies with a shaman. or there There are so many different ways to approach trauma. It's it's completely individual. um There's no one way to do it, no wrong way to do it. but we're We're not dealing with people's trauma.
00:28:53
beyondterrain
And so that's a big thing that I'm seeing with Lyme lately is this all these chronic conditions that we don't know are getting grouped into. It's funny because it's like arthritis, right?
00:29:03
beyondterrain
It's like arthritis can be considered Lyme. That doesn't even make any sense. Like that that is pure nonsense. So so maybe
00:29:11
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
doesnt make case
00:29:12
beyondterrain
It's just nonsense. Like how are we considering another illness to be caused by
Flaws in Scientific Research and Peer Review
00:29:17
beyondterrain
it? It just, it completely falls apart.
00:29:18
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Hmm.
00:29:19
beyondterrain
it It just completely falls apart and there's no logic behind it. There's no science behind it. Cause when you look into these papers, you're looking, wow, there's really no science. So that brings me to my final point. The last thing I want to mention.
00:29:32
beyondterrain
And it's the problem with the literature. It's the problem with the literature, and it's citation errors. And I made a video on this on YouTube, and i'll i'll maybe I'll link it down below. but And it's because it's really, really important. People don't talk about this enough, but even the literature admits that citation errors are really problematic. Citation errors include citing from introductions or abstracts or citing a citation. You're not supposed to do that either. A good citation you should cite from the results of the previous paper.
00:30:04
beyondterrain
You should not cite the paper that's citing another paper.
00:30:05
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
00:30:07
beyondterrain
So when people say, oh, we've isolated lime and they cite some random paper. Well, if you dig deep into these papers, you go 10 papers back and you get to the original studies that Mr Diaz is speaking about here.
00:30:20
beyondterrain
So, and and then you realize, well, it's a fact not found. You know, we've actually never isolated any of this. So you go down the rabbit hole in these papers, you go down through the references and you can keep going back further and further and further. It's like in virology, we've isolated this virus. You go back 10 papers and you realize that there's never been a single paper cited in this whole string of references that actually talked about any sort of isolation.
00:30:44
beyondterrain
So this is largely the problems with scientific literature. The citation errors are complete nonsense and and they're in every single paper. Any paper published in the last 50 to 100 years has citation errors absolutely guaranteed.
00:30:54
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah. Yep.
00:31:00
beyondterrain
Without fail you could bring me any paper and I will find you not one but probably half of the citations in the paper, at least. Sometimes it's probably like 90 to 95% of the citations are errors.
00:31:14
beyondterrain
You know, a good paper nowadays is probably 50%. So, I don't know, Jacob, do you have anything else to add? Because, you know, to me, it just seems like with a sliver of ah objectivity, I don't know how you can conclude that that that this is caused by a bacteria.
00:31:22
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Nami.
00:31:26
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Dude. Yeah. Let, let leave cook. All right. He is saying everything I would say just in probably more calmer, but I completely agree.
00:31:36
beyondterrain
Yeah.
00:31:37
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
It's like, it is the same thing of virology. ah You mentioned it like how many times I was reading a COVID-19 paper and it cites a paper that, that uses the very paper I'm reading right now.
00:31:48
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And I'm like, what the, how's that possible? How are you citing a paper that did that did the same thing? And are you checking, are you actually looking with shows that the peer review process is a utter joke. It is a joke. How many studies get retracted every year for straight applying and how many studies have actually gotten published even though they were blatantly fake studies to see if the process is actually liable? It's not. And that's why I'm so sick and tired of people. Where's the study? Where's the study? Do you know what their peer review process is? It's a popularity contest. Oh, I like this guy. I'm not going to read the paper. I'm just going to check your good.
00:32:25
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
That's what it is. It doesn't mean Jack. what what What Jamie Andrews is doing, for instance, when that gets published, he's probably not going to be able to get a peer review because they don't want to peer review a study that disproves virology.
00:32:37
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Why would they? That's their job. So when you when it's it's the whole thing.
00:32:41
beyondterrain
Livelihood,
00:32:43
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
It's the lack of independent variable, the lack of control experiments, the lack of logic, the lack of being forefront on your science. Because I didn't mention it before. But Borgdorfer, he, in his study, he even said, we may have found it the The, uh, the bacteria that is found to be the ideological factor of the of the disease may, that is right there.
00:33:05
beyondterrain
Maybe, maybe.
00:33:06
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
He doesn't know he isn't meeting yeah ah maybe, but that guess what? That may be by people who appeal to authority has not led to millions of people becoming victims to the very system that creates sickness.
00:33:24
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And it's just, yeah i yeah, I hate it. I freaking hate it. But I echo everything you said. um It's a joke.
00:33:32
beyondterrain
It's really, it's really interesting, you know, because when you do go back, you know, and you read like, like Coke, like Coke's postulates, perfectly logical set of postulates, they agree completely with these postulates. I believe that they're completely logical. And I think that if they could be, if they could be reproduced in reality, in an experiment,
00:33:55
beyondterrain
I would be a germ theorist till the day I die. But the problem is is that even though these postulates are extremely logical, one, they're taught to university students.
00:34:00
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
00:34:06
beyondterrain
Every university class that I had that had ever mentioned microbes introduced Koch's postulates. as As the fundamental experiment that proves all of this,
00:34:18
beyondterrain
But there is not one paper out there that adheres to Koch's postulates. And now we have virologists and microbiologists saying, you know it was just a primitive understanding. you know We don't use Koch's postulates anymore. we even you know It's so funny to to hear virologists speak of this and then go take a university course on microbiology and they're teaching you about Koch's postulates. And they don't teach you about Rivers' review of Koch's postulates for viruses. they do not I've never heard Rivers' name, Thomas Rivers,
00:34:47
beyondterrain
His name was never mentioned in my university career. Not once was it mentioned. And it's like, you know, first of all, we got away from logic with rivers. We did. But why are we not talking about it? Why are we not introducing university students? Because that's where it begins. Because then it doesn't get any better when you go into your master's or into medical school or do your PhD.
00:35:07
beyondterrain
It doesn't get any better that it doesn't change based off these introductory classes you know so it's it's just it's systemic and i mean it you know that we're sort of getting a little bit off topic here but i think it all sort of plays into the fraud that is being perpetrated here it's it all plays a role so.
00:35:23
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
yeah
00:35:28
beyondterrain
I don't know, I think we beat this dead horse enough.
00:35:28
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
00:35:30
beyondterrain
I mean, I'm sure there are questions that the listeners might have, and ah that could be probably an interesting follow-up discussion. So you know if you do have questions about any of this, I'm sure Jacob would love to come back and ah discuss them further.
00:35:42
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Of course, of course.
00:35:43
beyondterrain
so And maybe we could answer them on live. So if you do have questions, send either Jacob or I a DM, and we'll we'll do something where we answer questions, if we get enough of them. If not, we'll probably answer them individually.
00:35:55
beyondterrain
individually but You know, if we get a ah good collection, we should we we should probably do that.
00:35:57
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
yeah Yeah.
00:35:59
beyondterrain
That would probably be really helpful.
00:36:01
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
You know, that'll be awesome. And because I mean, Lyme disease is a big thing. It's really isn't a lot of people.
00:36:04
beyondterrain
Yes.
00:36:05
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And I love that you mentioned the trauma angle, because chronic disease can really be I mean, a multitude of factors it can be I mean, I learned about freaking out. What's the word?
00:36:18
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
I'm blanking off here. It was ah scar tissue. There you go. Scar tissue can lead to chronic disease that can and and inevitably lead to depression because you can't heal trauma.
00:36:22
beyondterrain
Yeah, scar tissue. Yeah, the Bigglesons.
00:36:29
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Obviously, all of those emotions not being able to be released containing your tissues. That's chronic disease. um Vaccinations from the second you're born, you're given 70 plus shots in the first five years of life.
00:36:41
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Of course that could be an effect. the crappy food that we are eating nonstop, that's going to be an effect. So chronic disease is is getting worse, not because the germs are adapting to hurt us, but because we are getting further and further away from nature and further and further away from being able to handle our own emotions.
00:37:01
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Can that be linked to the advent of social media and the addiction to technology? Maybe. Maybe that's what they want us. They want us to be almost robotic, almost, not emotional. So we can't handle our emotions. So all of that is connected. And once you realize that your health is really up to you and your decisions, you can stop blaming everybody else and take charge and heal yourself.
00:37:24
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Because that that the one thing that we both know that they do not want you to do is rely on yourself for health. And that goes with Lyme disease too, because they want you, even the holistic doctors.
00:37:35
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
um i'm I'm even going against our own ah we're in crowd right now.
00:37:36
beyondterrain
a lot of them
00:37:39
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
There's so many holistic Lyme doctors that do basically the same thing allopathic doctors do with regards to Lyme. Attack this, attack this, attack this. Stop it with the attacking.
00:37:51
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
The body's not attacking itself. It's trying to get to one point. You help lead it to that point. Yeah, so. and We can go on to tuberculosis or whatever.
00:37:59
beyondterrain
Again, my last point could be absolutely
00:38:01
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
yeah
00:38:02
beyondterrain
No, no, no, no, because this is important.
00:38:03
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
yeah
00:38:04
beyondterrain
I think that it's fine. like you know To be explicitly clear, if somebody is given a Lyme diagnosis and you have symptoms and you are suffering, i hope I hope we've made it clear that we're not saying that you're not suffering and that you're not going through something that that is challenging and that you're not in a state of of you know, repair, some might call it disease, right? um I hope that's abundantly clear that we're we're saying that that, you know, we're not trying to deny anyone's reality here either. We're saying that the diagnosis that's given, first of all, will not lead you to better outcomes because the only the allopathic way is to give you antibiotics, which is not going to lead to better health. Even though for the most part, holistic doctors like Jacob's pointing out here, they they do their protocols where it's kill, kill, kill,
00:38:51
beyondterrain
You know it's not about nourishment it's not about minimizing toxicity it's it's nothing like that right so um that that is a true protocol if it's caused by some sort of physical anomaly. You know it's very important that if you are having struggling with any sort of chronic conditions that you explore the psychological connection.
00:39:09
beyondterrain
which cannot be done in a fifteen minute consultation which cannot be taught to you necessarily in a course it may maybe maybe some courses but it depends if it it depends depends what they're going to try it if it's a course on how to heal your trauma and how to you know where you go to a retreat or something like that that can be very helpful to but it's not kill
Controversies Surrounding Polio and Vaccination
00:39:28
beyondterrain
kill kill anyways.
00:39:30
beyondterrain
Let's move on to polio, Mr. Diaz. let's Let's move on to polio, because I love polio.
00:39:32
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Okay, bye.
00:39:34
beyondterrain
And I'm really eager to hear your thoughts. you know And I'll have lots to say on this afterwards, too. We might not get the GB today, but that's all right. We'll have another episode for you folks. So let's hear about polio first, because it's so interesting.
00:39:48
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Of course. So polio, um it was it's said to be obviously a virus and a virus that we as amazing humankind have eradicated with the advent of vaccinations. The problem is, as many people will properly surmise, it's not a virus. And no, we did not eradicate the pathology with the use of vaccinations. If anything, we made it a lot worse. Now, I'm not saying polio hasn't gotten hasn't gone down in the United States because it has.
00:40:18
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
why it has is not because of a virus and not because of the vaccine. So when you go back into the history and I cite work a lot from what really makes you ill, virus mania, the contagion myth, a lot of these books really go deep deep into this issue is we really started seeing a lot of neurological pathologies when we started introducing neurotoxins into our environment.
00:40:45
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Oh my god, how did he think about that? It's so crazy. Neurotoxins leading to neuro, whoa, whoa, exactly. It's and more heavy metals, more neurotoxins leading to exactly what you would expect. So you have the the use of pesticides like Paris Green, things like lead arsenate, copper, DDT, all of these things that were being used on a day-to-day basis for wallpapers, for paint, for dyes,
00:41:13
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And a lot of these insecticides specifically were designed to cause neurological damage to bugs. So if it causes it to one natural organism,
00:41:24
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
What makes you think it's not gonna cause it to another natural organism? So what I hear a lot of people talk about is, oh, but DDT wasn't used here and it wasn't used here. Why did polio happen? Because everybody was using lead arsenic. Everybody was using some formulation of a neurotoxin in their day-to-day life or primarily in the use of an and insecticides used in farms and all that stuff. So you had this, especially pre and post World War II era,
00:41:53
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
All of these household insecticides and crop cropicides really that were being used and leading to pathology in people that were living the in the whole area. You even look back, you can see YouTube videos of kids in like these small towns and these these cars being like driven really slowly of just straight up spraying DDT in their face.
00:42:15
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
huge like wafts of smoke of dbt and let arson all these things being sprayed right into the children's face and this people's face and they wonder why in a week they can't walk i mean it's it's it's right there so we've always known as humans that heavy metal poisoning causes lesions to form causes neurological pathology but with polio it just somehow wasn't a factor because again with the virus model you can push germs, you can push vaccines, you can push antivirals, antibiotics, the most you the most you want for a big profit. Even though doctors Morton Biskin and Ralph Scobee testified in the United States Congress that the use of central nervous system poisoning, specifically caused by DDT, Lettuce and then all these things,
00:43:03
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
were the primary cause of polio. And it's a very famous graph. You can find it on contagion myth. But the incidence of DDT and polio were neck and neck. And of course, people are going to say, oh, correlation doesn't equal causation. Yes, that's why you have to test.
00:43:19
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
for things like DDT and lead arsenic and you have and you found they're very neurologically toxic. So why are we denying this this very clear correlation? The more the United States used these products in the forms of household insecticides or in crops, the more polio went up.
00:43:36
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And then once they conveniently were outlawing the use of these things, putting restrictions on them, now you saw polio go all the way down. It's not a coincidence. And many investigations into this whole thing have been done, like Dr. Dr. Biskin wrote in 1945.
00:43:53
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
against the advice of people in the pharmacology, the companies and all that, that DDT was released in the United States and other countries for general use by the public as an insecticide. It was even known by 1945 that DDT is stored in the body fat of mammals and appears in the milk. With this foreknowledge, the series of catastrophic events that followed the most intensive campaign of mass poisoning in known human history should have not surprised the experts, yet far from admitting a causal relationship so obvious, virtually the entire apparatus of communication lay and scientific alike have devoted to denying, concealing, suppressing, distorting, and making attempts to convert into its opposite. So in short, what he was saying was the evidence was always there. It was always known that these compounds were highly toxic and caused neurological poisoning.
00:44:47
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
They purposely made it hard for people to find out. And of course, everything leads back to the money. Who was making these insecticides?
00:44:58
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Obviously, the companies that make insecticides and things that are sprayed in crops to farmers. So they have a stake to lose. They're making millions upon millions of dollars. And then you have the advent of polio leading to what? Vaccinations, more people going to the hospitals, and that is what? The pharmaceutical industry. So now you have two major industries that help the United States economy extraordinarily benefiting hugely from polio. Of course, nobody's going to know about the the the connection between polio and DDT.
00:45:29
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So when you look at the the contagion studies and all that, I made a post with like 100 plus failed contagion studies. Many of them were done with polio. So one of the studies, they actually took um milk and they seeded like polio particles from tissues and they fed them to people, literally just feed them like a normal, like a human, like a baby human with a little applesauce.
00:45:55
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
and literally nobody developed polio nobody got sick and this again no one knows about and they've done so many experiments using polio mush injecting it into people feeding it into people and nothing ever happens what they always use as proof though is they did an experiment with two monkeys and you hear so many people references. Oh, they showed it was a contagious organism. They tied two monkeys down and they bored a hole in one of the monkey's head. They put an immense amounts of polio goop. So we're talking like spinal fluid and the ground up muscles and all that injected directly into the brain of a monkey and it gets paralyzed and dies. And they're like, Oh,
00:46:43
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Oh man, we just found a contagious organism there. Was any isolated virus found? Absolutely not. Was any independent variable tested for? Absolutely not. Was any control experiment with simply saline water done? Absolutely not. And that study is used as proof. And then later on,
00:47:03
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
What we have is the advent of the polio vaccine, which was done by Jonas Suck, who John Enders actually stole his virus culture method from him. So it was he he figured out essentially that with virus cultures, you can use different tissues. You can use a brain tissue to a kidney, for instance, something like that. So John Enders copied that using it with his measles experiment, which is used as the foundation for virology today.
00:47:33
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So Jonas didn't like that Enders took his his ah his method. So what Jonas did was that he took notice of the experiment and then used chicken fibroblast cells along with human embryonic kidney cells. He took aborted fetal tissue and he took chicken tissue. He combined them with a bunch of different toxins like glutaraldehyde, for instance, along with polio disease tissue.
00:48:00
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
and he used that as the vaccine. He never tested it. He said he tested it on his family, even though there's no evidence to suggest he did. What we do find though, is once that vaccine that included monkey kidney cells, abortive fetal tissue, foreign disease tissue of all types, polio tissue, formaldehyde and glutaraldehyde,
00:48:26
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Once that started going into the masses, what happens? Polio blows up. Is that a coincidence? Absolutely not. you're You're injecting the very toxins that lead to polio into the blood of a person and you're injecting this tissue that has all this waste directly into the neurological ah bought part of the body. So, of course, polio is going to skyrocket.
00:48:50
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So people that claim that he eradicated polio simply just don't know what they're talking about because it actually rose when the vaccine came about. What happened was that they started outlawing um the diagnosis of polio following the vaccine going to the public.
00:49:09
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So the American Medical Association actually threatened to revoke the license of a bunch of doctors that were categorizing polio as polio. So now you see polio just go down, down, down, down, down, down, down. Very similar to what we see with COVID, where they lessen the cycle threshold for the PCR. Now, all of a sudden, COVID is gone. it's It's the same playbook. So now you have diseases like Guillain-Barre.
00:49:38
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Bell's palsy, ALS, MD, MS, acute flaccid paralysis, all being created because polio could not be diagnosed. So now all of these diseases that have very similar pathologies, very similar symptomatology, neurological issues, having a hard time walking,
00:49:58
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
having you know spasms and seizures, things that link to neurological issues, you have all of that coming about following them make delegitimizing polio as an actual diagnosis. And now what we have here today in modern day no world, in India, for instance, you have the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation that is pushing polio vaccines almost annually. And what you have in India now, I think I i put it here. It was something like between, let's see here.
00:50:35
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
491,000 Indian children paralyzed due to the polio vaccine. I think that was between 2000 and 2017. Most of them at the very least, founded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, pushing these shots to people. So did polio become eradicated?
00:50:55
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
No, we stopped using DDT for the most part. We stopped using all these heavy metal poisons in our household. We really stopped mandating the polio vaccine and they made it harder and harder for you to diagnose polio to people as an MD. So that's why it went down. Vaccines did not eradicate a polio. Polio was caused primarily by central nervousness and poisoning due to heavy metals like arsenic, like DDT, like all these things, because they were designed to cause neurological issues to bugs. And that's a big issue now, what we see with all these all products, I mean then and now, they're not looking to see if it's safe for humans. They're just doing animal testing and they're like, okay, some of the animals were fine, whatever. So it must be the same for humans.
00:51:47
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
But humans are not going to react the same way as an animal would if it's safe. If it's designed to cause, say, seizures in dogs and then you see dog owners just die of seizures, are you not going to make a connection there that it must be something in the compound or are you just going to try to profit off of it?
00:52:08
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
I also made like a another polio post that covered primarily the polio experiments and much of these experiments I won't go like too detailed in them I have an episode about it and a post about it but they would essentially take not only polio matter, we're talking like spinal fluid, we're talking blood, we're talking all these fluids and muscles um put together, they would take polio fecal matter, like literal poop from people that had supposed polio, and they would inject all of that into the stomachs or the brains of suckling mice. Suckling mice, so baby mice that were grown in a lab, they would shove all of that into their brain or their abdomen.
00:52:54
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And to make it short and sweet, some of them died. Many of them were fine. So what they did were in that experiment, they claimed that it was a polio-like virus because a lot of them didn't even get sick. So instead of blaming or not blaming, instead of conceding that you failed, they're just going to double down and say it must be like another virus. So and it it was in this study like only some of them became paralyzed.
00:53:21
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Again, some of them did die because they're suckling mice. But in in like ah older mice or whatever that were healthier, a lot of them didn't get sick. So a lot of these studies that are proffered up as proof, you see the same exact theme. They're taking unpurified polio gook that contains not only added chemicals, but all the bodily waste products that aren't removed, including whatever lead arsenic or DDT that's in the tissues, and then you're just injecting it into suckling mice, into monkeys, and you're just claiming an effect when in actuality, there's nothing there, just toxic goop. It's really just animal torture, if we're being completely honest.
00:54:03
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And a lot of these ah these samples really were taken from children that lived in farm areas. So when I when i when i looked into this study, it was a child TT and child KH. They used just their letters.
00:54:21
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And both of those children lived on a farmland in upstate New York. That same farmland was obviously being sprayed with DDT and all these insecticides. So now the children just start getting sick. And the study actually pointed out that polio disappeared by the end of summer.
00:54:40
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Very funny how that works. It just a virus just decides I'm going to be hanging out between August and September. And then once we're over, I'm going to be leaving at the end of September. Is it really that or is it the use of all these heavy metal insecticides and all that? And the the the very same study I talked about before with the ah the monkeys that is still used today. And I still see it people bringing it up as proof just to get even more like clear with the details on this.
00:55:10
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
um It was done by Landsteiner and Popper. So they chose to take again disease spinal marrow from a lame nine-year-old boy. They chopped it up, they dissolved it into water, and then they injected one to two whole cups into the abdominal cavities of two test monkeys. They also did it into their brain. One died and again the other one became paralyzed. Their studies is obviously plagued with a bunch of problems. For one,
00:55:40
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
The glop that they poured into the animal was not even infectious since the paralysis didn't appear in the monkeys and guinea pigs given the alleged virus soup to drink. So what they saw was when they gave this polio goop to drink to the monkeys and the guinea pigs, none of them became paralyzed. None of them.
00:56:01
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
They had to literally inject all this stuff into their body, which I'm sure you've talked about in the podcast in the past. That is not a natural form of infection. So it cannot indicate something that's happening in nature. Nobody is getting polio and just shoving it directly into the lungs, into the blood. That's not happening, but that's what they do in their experiments.
00:56:23
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
So, in that ah shortly after, researchers Simon Flexner and Paul Lewis experimented with a comparable mixture, injecting this mixture into monkey brains. They brewed the new soup, they tied up the monkeys, they put it into their brains. The monkeys did become ill, and that is proof that there was a virus that caused the monkey's paralysis.
00:56:47
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And that is then proof that polio was a supposed virus, even though, as we talked about before, there never really was an isolated polio virus. They would take this soup, culture it. And this was, again, around the time of John Enders, they would culture it, nuke it to death. They see particles form. And like, peace, we did our job. Now let's take all of that and make a vaccine out of it. And now we make people sick. And then we're going to make it difficult for them to diagnose. So now we can hide the fact that it was actually the vaccine.
00:57:17
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
It's just polio was the one that got me into this whole thing because I saw how much fraud was actually happening in in the polio era and how they basically did the same exact thing with COVID. The very same thing. And it's yeah, that's that's polio for you. It's DDT lead arsenic and that's why we don't see it anymore because America was at least smart enough to stop using all of those things. And that's why it still affects, you know,
00:57:43
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
building nations like India, for instance, because they still use those things to this day. and so And when you hear before i end when when you hear people the news especially, they'll say, polio is on the rise. Why? They're testing your poop in your tap water. that's It's utterly ridiculous. It's the same thing. They're using PCR to test for sequences in your tap water or in your poop. And then they'll use that as a way to say, polio is coming back, take this polio vaccine.
00:58:16
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
There was never a virus. There was it was always neurological poisoning. Steer clear from neurological poisoning and you're never going to develop polio. And that's what I tell people whenever they have neurological issues, whatever the case may be, nerves or whatever.
00:58:32
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
I'm looking at two things, mainly the obviously the neurological poisoning, the toxicity level. So not only that, but blue light, not being able to get enough sunlight, all the the household cleaning, cleaning things that I grew up with that are really toxic for you.
00:58:45
beyondterrain
Now we have to go back.
00:58:46
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
On top of that, are you getting enough fat in your diet, like collagen and cholesterol, which all of that binds your nerves? Myelin sheaths are made out of fat. Are you getting enough of that to help your nerves heal? Or are you staying clear of fat?
00:59:02
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
You're including all that and crappy stuff in your environment. And now you're shocked that you have neurological pathologies at 40 because you're not getting enough sunlight to you're not grounding.
00:59:11
beyondterrain
That's it.
00:59:13
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
You're not moving. Yet they want to blame polio. They want to blame a virus they never showed to exist instead of the very things that led to their terrain deteriorating. I it's like it's it just gets tiring to having to repeat this. Your health is your responsibility. The symptoms are a clue of what's going on. You have to listen to it. Stop blaming everything else on a virus or a germ because it's not that it's it's futile. So that's polio.
00:59:45
beyondterrain
the What I want to mention first before I make my comments here is that the moth in the iron lung is the most phenomenal read on polio um and it is the book that I recommend first for people to get into the train because it's written in like story form.
01:00:05
beyondterrain
It's not like these heavy what really makes you ill like 700 pages of fact fact fact like it's an easy read what really makes you ill is a fantastic read by the way not not to diminish it but it's big and it's like there's this
01:00:17
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah, and uh, it's like a bible though it's hard it's hard to read the yeah Yeah
01:00:20
beyondterrain
It's like a Bible. Yeah, it's a great reference book. you know But with the moth and the iron lung, it tells the story from the beginning, back in the 1800s when it all began. And you can see the the cases. They clustered in little country, towns,
01:00:36
beyondterrain
that were testing out these pesticides. And it told the story of like cows being dipped in lead arsenate water to get the all the bugs off them.
01:00:47
beyondterrain
It's amazing. They would take the cows and they would literally walk them into a ditch of this water full of these heavy metals.
01:00:47
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
ah but
Environmental Toxins and Polio Outbreaks
01:00:53
beyondterrain
And then they would go and feed that that cow or the that firm that was doing that practice would probably feed you know a hundred families and then boom you got a hundred cases of polio you know what i mean all the children that are really susceptible to heavy metals were getting polio in these little and it was very like it was very um isolated events of this polio and obviously they didn't call it polio in the early days but it talks about this changing nature of
01:01:02
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yep.
01:01:16
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
01:01:21
beyondterrain
ah I want to say diagnostics, but ah categorizing this illness. and Even now, you know when you see these neurological conditions like meningitis, you'll see three cases. like We saw three cases in a rural town in Nova Scotia. Why were they all on the same street? Why were all the kids that got meningitis from the exact same place drinking the same water, probably eating the same food from the same places, doing the same activities.
01:01:49
beyondterrain
They literally, took a couple of them grew up on the same street. It's so interesting that that happens. And so it's really like, and it's like that for everything. It's like you go to India and you'll see that all the cases are from some little rural town where they're still illegally using DDT because yeah, they banned DDT in India, but they still use it.
01:02:05
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
01:02:07
beyondterrain
They still use it a lot. They use it illegally because guess what we did with all of our DDT when we banned it?
01:02:08
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
ah you Exactly.
01:02:12
beyondterrain
Shifted to the third world countries boom great way to get rid of it.
01:02:16
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
exactly
01:02:17
beyondterrain
What are they gonna do with it are they just gonna throw it out?
01:02:18
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Exactly.
01:02:19
beyondterrain
No, they're not gonna throw it out. First of all, if they do throw it out, they're just gonna put it in their water and then drink in anyways.
01:02:22
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Mhm.
01:02:25
beyondterrain
You know, so it's like, what are they gonna do? Are they gonna waste these pesticides that they glorify the first world countries are using, you know? it's a really it's a it's an interesting thing that you can sort of look into there but with polio even in the height of polio it was still very isolated like it wasn't like covid where it went around the whole world and everyone got it all at the same time it was like it was still very isolated you know it was wasn't a pandemic it was an epidemic you know so it's sort of interesting to see like when you study
01:02:53
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
No, yeah.
01:02:57
beyondterrain
like it specifically to see the isolated nature it's very interesting and it doesn't really make sense for the theory of an infectious illness like it doesn't really follow the predictions that should have taken place
01:03:08
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Exactly.
01:03:11
beyondterrain
And look at the graphs. The graphs are hilarious. You look at like when DDT was used, like began to be used. It was like 1939.
01:03:17
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
it so
01:03:18
beyondterrain
What happened after 1939? Boom, it skyrocketed. And then, okay, so they started testing the the virus on millions of Canadians and, you know, I think it was Canadians and um people from England.
01:03:32
beyondterrain
but um people from England, right? Um, anyways, people, and, and so then boom, the, the, the cases peaked and then the vaccine was introduced and then we changed the definition and all this stuff. And that, that again is another thing that I think was sort of understated here. Um, but like Jacob did mention it, we're reclassifying the symptoms into newer illnesses, Epstein-Barr, meningitis types that there's a plethora of different ways you can take it you know but it's getting reclassified so that's why we're not seeing polio cases in canada because in our minds we successfully eradicated polio but then you go to the third world countries where they may not hear us strictly to the parameters being used in you know.
01:04:16
beyondterrain
Canada and the United States. So they are diagnosing polio because they were like, wow, these fit this the exact description of the symptoms of polio. So you could see how it sort of gets misconstrued here and misunderstood. So the moth in the iron lung, fantastic, fantastic read, especially as a first read getting into the terrain.
01:04:36
beyondterrain
It tells a beautiful story and it tells you a lot about a lot of these cases that popped up, especially in the early years. It'll be like this farm started using lead acetate or lead to acetate and boom.
01:04:49
beyondterrain
A little bit later, there's a little polio outbreak in this town.
01:04:49
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
01:04:52
beyondterrain
They don't call it polio, but there's a bunch of people getting paralyzed with the exact symptoms, right? So it's really interesting to see that. like I really want to stress that book as a fantastic read. The other thing within science, you know, Jacob obviously did an amazing job covering the fraud and the science side of things there.
01:05:10
beyondterrain
One thing that I find interesting is that when you take polio tissue, right? So if polio, let's assume that polio is caused by heavy metals, which clearly seems to be the case. If the tissues are concentrating this these heavy metals, because heavy metals do have an affinity for neurological symptoms, if you grind up the spinal tissue of an individual who is paralyzed, that spinal tissue is going to be full of heavy metals.
01:05:39
beyondterrain
you know So you're you're also adding heavy metals when you're adding polio tissue, right? So that's an interesting sort of confounding variable that's not accounted for whatsoever. And you see that, I think I'm going to have to cut Jacob off here and not go go over tuberculosis, but we're going to save that for another episode. um But it's the same as like,
01:06:00
beyondterrain
As tuberculosis, when they when they they cut the tuberculosis nodules off, the little concentrations of tuberculosis, they're little concentrations of toxicity. The body's trying to store that away from like the heart or the tissues. It's kind of what cancer does as well. It creates a tumor to sort of store all that toxicity. so you're There's a big confounding variable because you're in tuberculosis sorry get back on track there for my little aside you know you're grinding up these concentrations of toxicity and then introducing that into guinea pigs alongside other toxicity of course but it's still compounding variables
01:06:41
beyondterrain
that are not considered whatsoever in science that should be discussed realistically if we're going to be objective about this sort of stuff this should be mentioned in the discussion sections but obviously it's not because it would take away from the narrative that's being told that it is virus it is this it is that an interesting thing that you can do which pretty well always holds true is that if you go and read a scientific paper and you replace the word virus with its original meaning toxin all the studies make sense
01:07:09
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Exactly.
01:07:12
beyondterrain
If you replace the word virus in all of these studies and you just read it as toxin, it's like, wow, they're actually bang on about this sort of stuff. It is toxicity, it is toxicity.
01:07:23
beyondterrain
If there is any sort of contagion, it's toxicity in the environment. it's it's like It's kind of funny how you could sort of switch that, but that's where you know the understanding of the true meaning of the word virus, because virus has been around for a long time, but it meant toxin, it didn't mean
01:07:36
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
01:07:42
beyondterrain
self-replicating particle blah whatever nonsense you want to
01:07:45
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah, exactly.
Understanding Toxins and Health Misattributions
01:07:47
beyondterrain
make up.
01:07:47
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And what you mentioned in the beginning with
01:07:47
beyondterrain
and
01:07:51
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
yeah You mentioned it within the with ah the beginning of Lyme disease, how people, they want to know what our stance would be with the cause of these sort of things. And that goes back to just understanding what a toxin is. And I see it in your comments. I see it in my comments. I see it in others where people are like, what what do you mean by toxin? What do you mean? What is a toxin?
01:08:13
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And toxin is simply something that usually is not part of the natural form of life humans earth that will negatively affect the homeostasis of your health. That is it. It brings things out of balance. It is harmful to you and primarily manmade most of the time. Manmade toxins are the primary reason we are in this mess in our health.
01:08:37
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Of course, you have the odd, you know, tornado or whatever, but a tornado isn't a toxin. It's just a weather phenomenon. A toxin is heavy metal in an injection being put directly into your blood. That's the thought. EMF, even though we we're utilizing electromagnetic fields right now when I'm talking to leave. It is a toxin. It is because it's not natural. therere It's literally fake waves that we created as men. And there are thousands of studies showing that EMF leads to so many different pathologies. Do we care, unfortunately, as a society?
01:09:11
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
No, because we're using it for YouTube, too for IG, for Facebook, whatever. And we really should be more mindful of it. Limiting your toxicity. If these people back then got there got their meat from straight up pasture raised organic farms that did not use DDT, they would not have developed polio, which is a huge point to you need to take care of where you're sourcing your food from, of your environment. And that is going to be the main predicate on whether or not you're going to be healthy. Because again, paul polio, insert virus, COVID, whatever the hell, it's all toxicity. As Leif said, it's literally all toxicity. And of course, you have the science that is then bending the test results to make things bigger than they actually are.
01:09:58
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
That's all it is and we just got to be more mindful of what we're putting in our body and exposing our body to
01:09:59
beyondterrain
But Jacob, I think you're I think you're involved in a ah appeal to nature, logical fallacy here. I think you're appealing to nature that all is nature is is, and all that is unnatural is unhealthy.
01:10:15
beyondterrain
Actually, go back and read the original mention of the appeal to nature, logical fallacy, and you'll see that you're trying to ascribe morality to nature.
01:10:18
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
oh
01:10:23
beyondterrain
That is the nature of the logical fallacy. It is not a logical fallacy to say that what is unnatural is unhealthy because health and disease are not moral endeavors either. nature is not a moral endeavor.
01:10:35
beyondterrain
You know, we don't view disease processes as negative or bad. They're obviously undesirable. I don't think anybody in the world would disagree with that, but we're not saying that they're bad. Actually we would say that disease processes are good because it's the body healing itself.
01:10:50
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
It's a good thing.
01:10:51
beyondterrain
It's the body bringing itself back into balance. So go and read the original paper on appeal to naturological fallacy. And you're wrong. Every time I've heard anybody tell me that I'm appealing to nature, They have no understanding about this logical fallacy.
01:11:03
beyondterrain
First of all, it's a logical fallacy that was invented in the early 1900s, so it's only 100 years old, which again, is not saying that it's necessarily bad, but it's not an original logical fallacy. And it has all to do with morality and nothing to do with health and disease.
01:11:17
beyondterrain
so And he mentions, he talks about health for a very long time and talks about how these are not included in this logical fallacy because health and disease, again, you cannot ascribe morality to that.
01:11:28
beyondterrain
Morals are a human endeavor. We ascribe morality to everything around us. It's human endeavor.
01:11:33
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
01:11:33
beyondterrain
Sure, but if we're gonna talk objectively about nature and toxicity and disease It is not an appeal to nature. That is my parting words on that.
01:11:44
beyondterrain
Mr. Diaz, anything else you want to add my friend?
01:11:50
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
No, man, I can't wait for the tuberculosis episode because, yeah, I mean, that's another one, too. But all disease is really, I mean, people may be tired of it or not. It's all the same theme here.
01:12:00
beyondterrain
All the same.
01:12:01
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
It's caused by a toxin of some sort, usually man-made. They blame a germ because it's around the area. They do crappy experiments like when, co like you mentioned it, when Coke would literally take tuberculosis crusty matter and just shove it into animal brains and whatever.
01:12:19
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And then some of them get sick and he's like, oh, yeah, I just proved I just proved a contagion. it's It's that. And then there's the drugs to make a profit. It's the same thing over and over and over again. So, yeah, whenever that's ready, I'm down. But yeah, parting parting words. Your health is your decision. Germs don't cause disease. Viruses don't exist. Cope. That's it.
01:12:42
beyondterrain
Mic drop, mic drop. Yeah. We'll do tuberculosis. I think, uh, maybe we'll do monkey pox with that one. That's a big trend now too. That could be a little fun. I've been kind of diving a little deeper into that.
01:12:52
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
01:12:54
beyondterrain
We'll, we'll talk more about that after, but yeah, I mean, amazing. Jake Diaz, everybody again, back on the pod. He's awesome. He's got to come on here more. Honestly, this guy's a fountain of knowledge.
01:13:05
beyondterrain
He's got an amazing podcast too.
01:13:06
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Oh yeah.
01:13:07
beyondterrain
He covered. The topics we spoke about today, again, that Lime podcast just came out. This one's coming out on Monday. That one already came out. Go check that one out. Go check out the Turbial, because that's tuberculosis episode. Check out the polio episode. ah He's got an episode on water. He's got to check out his Instagram too. He's delved deep into a lot of different illnesses with a beautiful terrain perspective, Instagram.
01:13:33
beyondterrain
He's on Twitter a little bit there. Instagram's probably the best place. am i Am I missing anything here, man, or what?
01:13:41
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
No, you got you got it. All good. yeah Instagram definitely the best. Yeah, I don't I really need I should use Twitter often like you do. I got to do it. I just hate. I just hate the app.
01:13:52
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
But it's the people, bro. It's the people. It's the people. It's the the people that are on your comments.
01:13:55
beyondterrain
People, man.
01:13:56
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
They're all dude.
01:14:00
beyondterrain
That's the people.
01:14:00
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Can't the appeal. Oh, what? really What do you know?
01:14:01
beyondterrain
Oh, well.
01:14:02
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
You're Justin. You're Justin, bro. The appeal to authority is my favorite. That's my that's the one they always go to.
01:14:07
beyondterrain
That is a good one. It's a good one.
01:14:09
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
i
01:14:09
beyondterrain
Yep.
01:14:10
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
yeah and the the ad hommonum is just funny because they just say whatever they want that's not what is what it
01:14:16
beyondterrain
Nonsense bro. No, no logic whatsoever. That that's the common theme that you see with the germ theory.
01:14:19
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
yeah
01:14:22
beyondterrain
And I appreciate the train moving so much. It's really what got me into logic and studying it in depth. Uh, and I think that's an important foundation when you're talking about anything. you know I debate empiricism and rationalism a lot.
01:14:35
beyondterrain
I know there are flaws with empiricism.
01:14:36
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Yeah.
01:14:37
beyondterrain
I don't think that it's useless, but I think that it should be coupled with pure logic and rationalism point of view too.
01:14:38
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
And the ad, the ad hominem is just funny because they just say whatever they want.
01:14:44
beyondterrain
If if if something is going to be empirically sound, it should stand up to a proper logical argument. you know so There's no reason that we we can't use both.
01:14:57
beyondterrain
it's You're going to cover all your bases. Honestly, it's a debate. pierces and versus rationals and blah blah blah I mean, maybe when it comes to psychology, there's no room for empiricism because you're dealing with human nature, same as economics. You can go read about that.
01:15:11
beyondterrain
you know There is no room for empiricism in economics or psychology in my opinion. But when it comes to the natural sciences, you could probably use a little bit of both. like But you need to use logic. And the germ theorists you know and scientists in general, the modern scientists, it just has no logic.
01:15:25
beyondterrain
And it's sad. It's a sad sight.
01:15:27
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
No.
01:15:27
beyondterrain
you know There's no philosophy. There's no logic. There's no spirituality. It's just pure materialism. And it's sort of a sad way to look at the world in my opinion. That's my moral judgment there ah to interject that. Mr. Diaz, thank you so much for coming on. I so much appreciate your time. This has been so much fun. I just love talking to you, man.
01:15:50
Jacob Diaz _U_V_
Same thing, bro. Same thing. Keep it up, man. We're the we're the next generation.
01:15:55
beyondterrain
100%. Awesome. All right.
Personal Responsibility in Health and Closing Remarks
01:15:57
beyondterrain
I want to thank you all for listening. You should all know this is not medical advice or scientific advice. Everything Jacob Diaz and I say is complete nonsense and don't listen to us. This is for your informational purposes only.
01:16:07
beyondterrain
But also remember that we're all responsible, sovereign, being, capable of thinking, criticizing, and understanding absolutely anything. We're together, self healers, self forces, or with the greatest forces, messing up the archery a little bit. We're self healers, self-governable, self-teachers, so much more, you know, this is the autonomy that Jacob's speaking about. We can do everything ourselves, you know, um, community, not necessarily self-reliance, but communal reliance, rely on your friends, family, loved ones. Uh, you don't really need much more than that.
01:16:34
beyondterrain
Please reach out if you have any questions, criticism, comments, concerns. We'll probably answer your questions in some sort of format, so make sure you do that. Instagram's best place to reach us both. Listen, I really appreciate y'all for taking the time to listen today. I love this episode. like I love these episodes with with Jacob. It's just so much fun. um I can't wait to listen back to it. If you did like it, give us a like, share, comment, subscribe, review, whatever you got to do on the platform that you're on, you know what to do. And just remember, there are two types of people in this world. Those believe they can, those believe they can't, and they are both correct. All right, guys, thanks for listening.
01:17:04
beyondterrain
Take care.