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Episode 120 - Trust the Process
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Thanksgiving Recap
00:00:01
Speaker
Alright, and we're live. Hello. What up, bro? What's going on, mate? Welcome back to another week of laundry in the basement. We took a week off for Thanksgiving. We had a good Thanksgiving week. I enjoyed.
00:00:19
Speaker
Yeah, you do anything anything fun or um for Thanksgiving what we do is we go to my aunt's house on my dad's side the Italian side um it's up in Wallingford so we go up there, but one of my cousins is like
00:00:33
Speaker
Super duper Italian and he ended up making like handmade linguine. Oh, wow. It was really fresh. It was really good. That's crazy. Yes, I did that. And then, um, after that, I went to my girl's house. I met her parents for the first time. Oh, yeah. How did that go? It went really well, actually. All right. Nice. Um, I'm not gonna, I'm, I've been butchering the name of it, so I'm not going to do it. Um, we played, referred to as kind of, it's kind of like Mexican bingo.
00:01:01
Speaker
Yeah, I think something like that. Um, they played that for a few hours, but her dad's a riot. It was hilarious. And we just had each other cracking up for like two or three hours. It was fun. That's good though. Yeah, that's you know, that's a win in my book. Yeah, definitely a win. Definitely a win. So it's been good. It's been good about you. Um, nothing. We just had like a pretty chill Thanksgiving here at the house. I worked for the first half of the day. Okay. And that was it just at least page more.
00:01:30
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Yeah. You know, but yeah, I just laid in bed and watched football after
Lions vs Bears Game Analysis
00:01:34
Speaker
after I ate and that was my whole day. It's thanks. I didn't really get to catch the lines in bears game, but it came into being pretty close. Yeah. I mean, it got you refused fire. It's like well deserved. I mean, I assume you've watched the play by now, right? Like there was something towards the end. I didn't get to really see it, but I did hear what they had an extra time out. They didn't like that. So what happened was I forgot how they got down there, but
00:02:00
Speaker
They've been basically like fighting back the whole game. Like the lines I think went up pretty early for a while. And they they came back through two touchdowns late to Keenan. And then they had a chance to tie it. And there was about 30. There's 40 seconds left. Caleb takes like a 10 yard sack. So they were in field goal range. They were in field goal range. But that sack kind of takes them out of it by a little bit. And so.
00:02:29
Speaker
Immediately Caleb gets up and starts like rushing them to the line. Okay, because it's third and seven So you you have it's 37 30 seconds left one time out and you're where you're just outside of field goal range now They're just outside of it now. I think they're at the 40. Okay, so like it's 57 yard field goal You could kick it if you wanted to but like You obviously want more yards. Mm-hmm And so they're lining everyone up and Caleb doesn't get a play in his ears apparently
00:02:55
Speaker
like he doesn't know what the play is called like you think like the signal didn't go through on the helmet or something you didn't hear anything or something like that that's what he claims though i don't know if it was like he didn't hear anything but i think he had gotten the play call late and got everyone set at the 15 second mark or he didn't everyone wasn't set okay he got everyone to the line by the 15 second mark got the play called it out everyone got set around like the eight second mark is what is what they said
00:03:24
Speaker
And then I think he's too late. He changed the route after that because he was like, there's eight seconds left. Everyone just got set. The clock's running. This is a play for like an out of bounds out. I'm going to have to take a shot at the end zone. So he said he's like, I changed the play. And then he's like, I threw it up to Roman. That was it. In the whole time, he refuses watching Caleb like flounder. He's just sitting there without the time out. What?
00:03:51
Speaker
Like he has a time out to use. He has a time out to use and he's just sitting there watching. And again, situationally, I don't really know. Listen, I'm not a football coach. I've never been in that position, even at like the most basic level, but.
00:04:08
Speaker
I feel like if you're watching your rookie quarterback change a bunch of stuff or like time is running around like at the 15 second mark, you have to call it then, which you don't want to. But it's like you you call it then and then you talk to your team. It's either, hey, we have one shot at taking the out of bounds here on this third down or we're just kicking it now. And like whatever happens happens in my. In my estimate, like, again, not a coach, but my idea was
00:04:38
Speaker
you take the timeout right away at the 30 second mark and you have your team, like it's already third down after the sack and you have your team have like two scenario plays where it's, you can go to the middle of the field and get the first and then you run up to the line as fast as possible and spike it. Or, you know, just all you can do is just not take a sack in this next play. That's the only thing you can't do.
00:05:03
Speaker
so you have two ways of like you could like you know i'm saying like 30 seconds with the clock stop is still a lot of time for them to like you know or it's like if you don't if you're in the middle of the field and you don't get the first the kicking team knows to run on the field and just get set and kick it with like hopefully as time is expiring
00:05:21
Speaker
or if you get the first, you know to run up as a group, clock it and then we kick the field goal then or something. You have to have your team prepped on that. And I think that's why you take the time out of the 30 second mark. So you have your team well aware of what's supposed to happen.
00:05:37
Speaker
Cause if you don't get the first down, you throw over the middle of the field, you still have time to get the kicking team on the field. It's going to be rushed, but like you have a chance at it. If everyone knows their job and knows what happens, you know what I'm saying? And what the second the play is over, the rest of the teams know what to do.
00:05:54
Speaker
You have a chance, but I think letting your quarterback, especially your rookie quarterback, it's not like it's a veteran who's been doing this for years. If you have your rookie quarterback out there, calm, not knowing what on the nerves. Yeah. Can you gain control back of the moment?
00:06:12
Speaker
Yeah. You know, call the time out. Yeah. It's one time out left in this point. Yeah. One time out. So it's like I understand your hesitancy to call the time out because it's like you want to have that in your back pocket. But if you're never going to call it, time is burning and burning and burning. And by the time that plays run, you might not even get a chance to run that time out and pull that. Yeah.
00:06:32
Speaker
So because they haven't been paying enough attention to Chicago. But correct me if I'm wrong, I thought I heard that like this has been kind of been apparent of an issue. The last couple weeks, it's been just kind of brewing and brewing and brewing and then Thanksgiving Day is kind of like cherry on top. It's like, all right, this is it. We're done.
00:06:48
Speaker
It seems like he's lost the locker room for like weeks and They just didn't know like they didn't want to fire him mid-season Like I think if they lose to the Lions in the way that they do or without having that happen I think he was gone at the end of the year regardless. Yeah But having it be that bad having it be on national television having his like press conference afterwards being like
00:07:15
Speaker
Basically, like he gave a really bad excuse and answer. You know, it's like, are you even prepared to do this job? Yeah. And I thought he should have been fired before the season. But I guess they want to give him a chance with like, it's like, oh, it's a new team, maybe with like a competitive looking rosters, X, Y and Z. But they were like, I.
00:07:34
Speaker
Yeah, I think I mean defense I haven't again. I haven't been paying attention as close to Chicago No, maybe say like the first eight weeks or so. That was a really good defense I don't know if they're still in that range or if they've dropped off a little bit. Yeah, I think in the prediction episode
00:07:49
Speaker
that we did for your pod. I had them seven and 10. Because I was like, oh, the defense is good. I think I might have had them 10 and seven. I was like, they just went seven and 10. I think I had them around there too, yeah. I was like, they're getting a better quarterback. I think I might have had them at 11 wins or something. It was probably pretty bad.
00:08:05
Speaker
The other thing of note, since we brought it up, obviously, it's on says says, but I'll admit to it here as well. Um, on says says this prediction podcast that he's talking about that we did, we also did an awards segment. It's specific to the Bears. I had Caleb's rookie of the year, which isn't gonna happen. Yeah. And I had Hebrew flutes as coach of the year. That probably makes me sound like I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to sports. I'm not like I thought he was that good of a coach. My whole premise was that
00:08:34
Speaker
I thought they were going to be really good. And obviously I thought the record would be so much better that they were going to make this massive jump from year over year to where it's like, oh, how can you not give the guy the thing? Even if you don't think he's that level of a coach. But it's what it is. Got to make it through a season. What a joke that prediction was. Yeah. Yeah. I mean.
00:08:55
Speaker
I think things really like they were already kind of set up for failure by bringing in Shane Waldron, the former OC of the Seahawks. I think Jackson Smith and Jigba talked about it like preseason where he was like, yeah, just like last year wasn't like the plays weren't like correct for me or whatever for like me to thrive or whatever. And you look at his like his route tree in the next gen stats and he's running like bullshit like routes.
00:09:22
Speaker
This is last year. And then you look at what Rome was doing in the first, like nine games or Rome, Keenan, whoever one of those, I think it's Rome's comparable. If you look at his route tree compared to Smith and Jig was last year, it's about the same.
00:09:39
Speaker
Oh, brother. So these young. Well, Nijigwa was a rookie last year. Yeah. So these young rookie level receivers, same. It was just like coach in charge. Yeah, it was just ineffective and effective for guys. Supremely talented. Yeah. Yeah. For two guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Smith and Jig was really good. Yeah.
00:09:59
Speaker
You know, he was obviously a problem. They they fired him for both pretty load of receiving rooms. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's Seattle D.K. Lockett smacking the jig. But who's I think he's phenomenal. I really like the jig. But it's the same thing with the I mean, obviously, Keenan, like hasn't been able to say healthy really this year, which I'm also never surprised. Yeah. D.J. Moore and then Rome. Yeah. I mean, that's a really good receiver room, too. So.
00:10:27
Speaker
It's interesting. I think Caleb has picked it up like his play the past few weeks. So, you know, hopefully with the right. So who's coming in? Who's interim now? Do we know? I have no clue. They haven't even announced it. I don't think they have. I guess they have time, right? Yeah. I feel like they should pretty soon. Like you want to know who you guys are by tomorrow, right? Yeah. Yeah. Probably practicing tomorrow. We have to know by tomorrow morning. Yeah. It'd be Monday. Yeah. So we start, you know, obviously Monday night football, but new week is starting. So. But it was they.
00:10:58
Speaker
Oh, he dropped a pick, but it ended well. You know, honestly, it's way better because they're way down that way than the pig. Yeah, I needed it for a fancy stuff, but whatever.
00:11:09
Speaker
The, what was I gonna say? Sorry. No, no, no, you're good. Eber Flus did a press conference Friday morning and everyone was like, yeah, you should be fired. Like everyone, everyone after that game was like, he should be fired. There's no way he should be the coach. I think he did a team meeting where he was like, yeah, like let's, let's look forward to San Francisco next week guys. And like he did a press conference via zoom. I was like, yep, I'm prepping for next week.
00:11:32
Speaker
And like an hour later, like, yeah, he's gone because the like, I think the GM, the owner and like all the front office, they were seen enough. They were still doing like they had like a three hour debate on whether or not they should fire him. So the fact that it's up for question means there's guys in the building still wanted him.
00:11:50
Speaker
I don't know if it was so much more like him, but just not knowing who the guy or else to go to next and like putting your quarterback like at this point, Caleb has now had two offensive coordinators and two head coaches and we're not even through his rookie year yet. You know, and I don't really think that matters, but like you have to find the right guy.
00:12:10
Speaker
because if they're gonna if they're gonna clean house again and get a new OC and a new because OC got fired what two weeks ago yeah three weeks ago whatever it was so it's like I know interims don't really matter but like you'd be putting him on his third yeah got an OC pairing into your second year yeah which again I don't really think
00:12:29
Speaker
That's not his fault.
NFC West and Chiefs Season Review
00:12:31
Speaker
I don't think he's been playing bad enough for the coaches to get fired. I think the coaches have been playing themselves out of the game. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Because again, I don't think Caleb's that bad. And I just don't think he's had the right tutelage to iron out some of the mistakes that he's brought. And it's not for a lack of talent. Because there are some plays and throws Caleb has made in the past few weeks where it's like, oh, yeah, that guy. There's a reason why he went one. There's a reason why people are saying, oh, generational talent. Yeah.
00:12:59
Speaker
Yeah, glad Eberfloos is up and out of there because I do want to see them like, I want to see the bears, too. Yeah, because that division is going to be fun. Yes, look at that. The Vikings, the bears, the Lions and and then, yeah, or the Packers, the Packers. Yeah, that's four competitive teams.
00:13:18
Speaker
That's what my thing was going into this year. I said this was gonna be the most entertaining division football I think I saw it's not me thinking that the Vikings were gonna be good, but you know, yeah No, that's same cuz I think I had the Vikings like 214. Yeah, I had them as the word Yeah, I probably had him around there. I just didn't think Darnell was gonna come in and play this well. No, neither did I Props to him, you know, and you know, the defense has been crazy too. It's not really just him. But yeah the defense has been killer and
00:13:43
Speaker
Uh, he's just found ways to get like, who's surprised getting Justin Jefferson, the ball, like works out on offense. You know, Aaron Jones is like, that's a big piece. It's been a nice addition to them. Jordan Addison's taken another step this year. I love him as what is either second best guy. Yeah, they've had they had a solid, um, more than solid with the 10 and two now. Nine and 10 and two, nine and two. Maybe they won today. I think I think there were nine and two today before the win.
00:14:12
Speaker
Yeah, they I don't know if they really not that they didn't deserve to win the game, but it seems more like it was It was a game they could have lost. Yeah, the other team lost it more than they wanted. Yeah, you know They had to go down the field, right? What did they say? Eight Yeah Eight play drive or something like that for like, yeah, no, you're right 80 yards or something They're 10 and 2 the Packers are 9 and 3 so they're all separated at the top by a game
00:14:38
Speaker
Packers are nine and three. Yeah. Damn. I think that after opening night when Jordan Love goes down with the parent, we think he's in any knee injury. And they had it right after. Yeah. And they had it. Yeah, I was miserable and they had a tough slate of games coming up and it was like, oh, snap, like this their season might already be over. Yeah. And we just started. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, Love ended up coming back like two weeks later because of
00:15:08
Speaker
Like Malik held it down for him. I think he beat the Titans, right? He got he got his win back. Yeah, but Yeah, they ran the shit out of the ball. Yeah, they didn't even they ran for like 250 yards or something that game crazy. Philly's effectively trying to end the game right now. I do want to lock in for this one. All right. Fourth and inches. It's fourth. It's a fourth quarter five twenty one left.
00:15:31
Speaker
What sucks is I bet you say quant like they get this first and then say quant rips off like another huge boy 80 yard run or something. It's 21 12 Phillies up nine and Jalen gets a first down on the quarterback push. They're in Baltimore by the way. Yeah, they're in Baltimore and I think they're also in Baltimore territory. Yeah, they're on a 30. Okay, so let Jalen score, please. I need the point so bad.
00:15:55
Speaker
What's your, what's your thing out right now? I'm down 48. Oh yeah. So like if Jalen could score and then CMC could have a 40 ball. Which is not impossible. It's not impossible. This year CMC, I don't know what the Niners are.
00:16:11
Speaker
Luckily for them the rest of the division doesn't know how they are either because I think they're all 500 Essentially, this is I wanted to look at I don't even know where I would start with this search But this far into a season with it being this close and not one team looking really like yeah decent all teams have looked meh You know having moments of good and having a moments bad. So I don't know
00:16:37
Speaker
Because Seahawks are seven and five cards are six and six Rams are six and six Niners can go to six and six tonight, which I don't think they will but like they're in Buffalo. They're in Buffalo and they've just not been playing well in Buffalo. Good. Yeah, purties back. I think Buffalo is the best team in the AFC. The Chiefs are.
00:16:56
Speaker
Chiefs aren't that good, in my opinion. I don't care what the record says, they are not that good. They are continuing to escape with wins. Didn't they just almost lose to... Yeah, that was also Oakland. Yeah. My tweaking? Las Vegas, right? Yeah, yeah. I always call them Oakland. No, it's funny because I always say Oakland. I always mess that up. So then I'm like, did they move back? Yeah.
00:17:20
Speaker
It's a crazy. No, he fumbled. Say, Juan, dude, Philly claims they have the ball. They say they have it. Oh, they have. OK. All right. All right. Thank God. Jeez.
00:17:33
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, everyone in the NFC West is within a game of each other right now. Game two games, you know, depending. So who's the best team in that? I mean, record wise in Seattle. Yeah, they lost. No, they won today. They won today. I don't know. Do you think they're the best team in that division? No, I still think it's the Niners. So do I. Like, but they're not doing it might be five and seven tonight, like. Obviously, statistically, they could. But if the Niners lost tonight, can they still win the division?
00:18:04
Speaker
Let's look at their schedule. Let me let me pop into the schedule. I need to see who else they have. It's just not been as competitive as you would think. They would have to go four or five. Which I don't think is impossible. But four and five at five. And so actually, I don't even know that gets them to say, go on with a burst.
00:18:28
Speaker
I don't know. Because they have bills tonight. Bears, Rams, Dolphins, Lions, Cardinals. And I don't know if this iteration of the Niners can beat the Lions.
00:18:38
Speaker
Yeah, it's funny because like if you would have told me before the season, I'm like, oh, yeah, they're ripping all those off. Maybe the Lions games close. I maybe they get three of those the way they've been looking. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if they win all these games. The Dolphins. I mean, where's the Dolphins game? Oh, it's in Miami. I don't like that for them. Like the dolphin if it was actually the San Francisco is not even that cold anywhere. The Dolphins go where it's cold. I'm just betting against them. True. And I didn't watch the game. I don't want to just base it off numbers.
00:19:05
Speaker
Did it look like the offense did well against Green Bay in Green Bay? No, the two had like 350 yards or is that just kind of like numbers or numbers? I think it's not really like that. Not that actual big of an effect. I mean, he had 350, but they still lost by two tours. Yeah, there's a 13 point loss. So the game didn't do shit or like that putrid. I don't think a Chan had. Yeah, no, the run game was awful.
00:19:30
Speaker
They ran 18 times for a total of like 40 yards. It's ironic. I mean, this stuff happens, but it's ironic. I don't have the numbers, but like it feels like what I've peeped at is that like a lot of these top tier like ranked going into fantasy football guys that were projected high aren't a handful of them aren't having good seasons.
00:19:50
Speaker
Yeah, I mean Tyreeks had a pretty pedestrian. Yeah, for what he is. Did he do anything Thursday night? Was it Thursday? He locked into a touchdown. What did he end up with? Like, overall, you know, six for 83 in a touchdown. And when I say he locked into a touchdown, I mean, it bounced off Johnny's chest and then floated to him in the back of the like the. Oh, OK. Like he legitimately locked into the touchdown. Yeah, it wasn't like, you know, a garbage time thing or, you know, like what happened with Cooper Cup, get that garbage one against the Pats or whatever.
00:20:20
Speaker
He legit the ball bounced off somebody interesting and it like fell right into his basket. Yeah, I'm in that zone I'm not gonna lie. I've been pretty bad on honestly with football the weekends have been getting pretty busy recently. Um Something like I'm sitting like the other day. I'm like, what was last time? I just watched a day of football like this is honestly the most football I've watched in like almost a month
00:20:40
Speaker
Yeah I'm not mad. I'm not mad. Yeah, but I miss my football I'm trying to get it in but you know, it's
NBA Cup and UConn Basketball Challenges
00:20:51
Speaker
all good. It's all good. I feel like you're not missing much I think last week I was pissed last week the games end up being competitive towards the end of the fort like the one o'clock window But like at 2 30, I was like this games think I don't get that many Sundays off
00:21:06
Speaker
This is a product like at 2 to 30. I was like, yo, I'm just about to just throw in a movie Oh Because I don't feel like watching these games and they they got close at the end and I was like, all right Like whatever make them salvageable, but it's like is the game overall that good and then the four o'clock games I was like, I'm just I like legitimately had the games up here then I had a movie here and I was paying attention to the movies
00:21:29
Speaker
That's jarring yeah boy and even like today wasn't that I don't think there's a few like game-winning drives sure I mean that's our product at the bats out of that but I mean like um Steelers had a good game today even that one was close at the end, but I Don't know for the most part. It's just been watching a ball
00:21:50
Speaker
No, no, that's the thing that's tough is because it's always on while I'm at work I know and you can't just like look because you're kind of like on the move right now like in one spot So the only one I like dedicate my time to is Yukon and I'll have that just in my headphones as I walk the NBA I can't do that because for me the NBA is already like a semi-rough product to watch day in and day out on like
00:22:12
Speaker
I think the cup games are fun. Cup games have been pretty decent. I mean, the cup games are fun because you have to win, but you have to get the margin. So you're trying to score as much. I really like that concept. Like, did you see what Missoula did the other night? Yes, I was just figuring it out. I also realized I minimized. I forgot to. I don't even want to know. Oh, OK. We have a lead, actually. All right. You know what's funny is like I hate the Celtics, right? I respect them, but I hate the Celtics. It's funny like how if you ask me like what they want a championship last year, if you ask me like two years ago at this point,
00:22:42
Speaker
I would have been like, oh, I don't think Missoula is that good. I think Missoula is one of my top five favorite coaches in the league. He's and a lot of it is personality. Yeah, I think the dude, do you hear his interviews sometimes? He's just a funny guy. He's just a funny dude. And some of the shit he said, some of the shit he says is hilarious. But literally they were up, what, six with like a couple of seconds left. They had possession.
00:23:05
Speaker
This is one of the cup games. So the whole thing with the cup games, for those who don't know, is that point differential matters a lot in your group. It's a lot like soccer in that sense, like with the World Cup and everything like that. So he called the timeout six seconds left. Then they run an out of bounds play and they have Houser fly to the the wing from the out of bounds play. And he drills are really contested. It was it was a tough shot.
00:23:28
Speaker
Great shot from him. And damn, what finished on and they end up winning the game by nine. It's going to matter. I mean, but the other team started to slack now in the cup. So I think I was going to say, I looked this morning to see if it was like really important. And I think they had like a pretty big point differential. So it wasn't it wasn't not important, but like, you know, you could have gone without it. But yeah, you never know at the end of the day, like, because if teams, if someone else in their group blows another team out by 20, then it's like,
00:23:58
Speaker
It matters. They're right there. It's just another wrinkle to the season that makes it entertaining. That's why I'm saying I could watch Cup games. I would find that entertaining. The courts are different. Sometimes they put on different jerseys they might have. The game that you have on right now, it's a competitive game. It's a two top teams in the East.
00:24:21
Speaker
flipping on like he eats hornets on a Wednesday night. I'm just going to listen to music, bro. I got you. Like I got you. But yeah, I am.
00:24:34
Speaker
So you've been watching Yukon, though. So catch me up on Yukon, because I haven't caught any Yukon this year. They just had one of I heard they had a bad, righteous weeks that they've had in a while. I lost three in the Maui. It was in a row in the mouth. And then they came back and they doubled up. They won 49 to 99 against. Oh, goodness. I'm like probably one of the worst teams in the country. So that doesn't really matter, obviously. But.
00:25:01
Speaker
But yeah, they went to Maui. They they lost to Memphis by one or by two. There was an overtime game in there. Yeah, that was that was OT game. OK, so they were down 12th, like three to go. And they just went on a run. They tied it.
00:25:18
Speaker
Like they just were knocking down everything solo ball hit a three at the buzzer like send it to OT crazy. That's a good shot. That was a good shot. I'm saying like that he hit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was. I'll pull it up after. OK. So they go to OT. So one of the freshmen, he gets called for an over the back, which I don't really think is an over the back, but like it's one of those words like.
00:25:44
Speaker
on the line and they've been called that the rest were calling stuff like pretty rough on Yukon the whole game. If you look at the free throw disparity in the first two games for us, I think we got outshot at the line 48 to 99. So like obviously the refs were kind of calling a lot on us. Um, but one of the freshmen gets called for an over the back and Hurley throws himself on the floor and gets teed up.
00:26:13
Speaker
Cause he was just upset with how the call was going. And I get that, but like, you can't, you can't throw yourself on the floor. You know what I mean? Like that, the ref's never going to take time either. That no. So he threw himself on the floor and gets teed up. We lose the game by two, which, you know, technical probably give the technical gave him four straight points. Carolina took a late lead by the way. Oh, wow. Nice. Good for them. Um, I think they're needing this one out and Jalen's on the sideline for it.
00:26:42
Speaker
Or they just what's called they kick the field goal. Sorry. Oh, yeah, you're right So this game's over Yeah, so he throws himself on the ground gets teed up they lose by two, you know
00:26:56
Speaker
You know, obviously, it's been a problem with Hurley him controlling his emotions on the sideline, being as aggressive as he is. And your mom said the whole thing. Yeah. And I've obviously two years of winning championships kind of takes that out of the picture because now you're not as upset. But in the post game pressure, he goes, you know, like I've never seen another like I've never seen national championships teams get that call against them, which, you know, I really don't like that response like.
00:27:21
Speaker
If it's a foul, it's a foul. I also think refs are just bad and they're gonna call bad calls and that's gonna happen But like you can't throw yourself on the ground like a toddler, yeah, you gotta show me this this is insane I know he's very demonstrative. I know he's a dude with many reactions But um, you can throw it on in there if you want. Yeah, I'll pull it up over here. Um But yeah, it was just
00:27:49
Speaker
Okay, so outside of this tough week, how's the team looked overall? Rough. Okay, so was this we kind of just like a finally the things that have been rough about this team finally compounding all at once and it just like avalanche. I mean, here's the thing what's tough is so that so they lose that game the next game they play Colorado I think is like a decent team nothing crazy. But
00:28:15
Speaker
Yeah, first thing CBS says, you can't you can't coach Dan Hurley's high head antics are an embarrassment to college basketball. Yeah, that's a scathing article. But yeah, let me see. It's true. What do you do if there's the video of just. They should show it to us.
00:28:40
Speaker
Love the polo, by the way. Yeah, the polls fresh. It doesn't show exactly what he did. Oh, no, that's terrible. But the I mean, I guess he gets to you up here. But the reason the refs gave it to him was they. Yeah, I think they gave it to him here because you can see his face kind of, you know, just like expressing this guy towards the referees. But you can't show them up. They're always going to take you up for that. You can show them what the ref said was like it was him falling on the ground. Is what like really, really like did it for him.
00:29:10
Speaker
I can't believe they don't show it here either. But yeah, so they lose that game. Then against Colorado.
00:29:27
Speaker
the next night they lose by one. And this gets called. This doesn't get called. So we're wearing white or no, we're blue or blue. OK, so this it's it involves the same player from the night the night before. So he goes up to get a rebound. He kind of gets tugged. No call.
00:29:46
Speaker
Colorado end up scoring Oh They end up scoring on this because I called timeout. Yeah, they got a tall he gets a timeout and they set reset and he gets a Bucket you can see Hurley going crazy What was he mad about they think they were over the back or was he thinking travel cuz the guy went to the floor? He was saying over the back. Okay, let's see Because you can see his arm is yeah He's pending down his you can't pin the guy's arm down and for
00:30:14
Speaker
Fucking holding him down to keep him from going up for you just can't do that. So that doesn't wish training, I guess. Yeah. And Hurley obviously is irate, but that's how they lose the two games. So in my mind, I'm like, OK, like they lost on a technical essentially that he shouldn't have gone. And then they lose on a one, you know, on a a play that a foul that should have been called, but wasn't. So what can you really say about the team? Like, I still think the team is good. Right. The third game, they get blown out.
00:30:43
Speaker
by a good team to Dan. I think they're going to be a team that makes the second weekend in the tournament in March. Like they're a good team, but they lost by like 16. It was double digits for sure. Question. Do these tournament games one count towards regular season record? Yes. So then I guess this answers my following question. This does then affect their standings. Oh, they're going to be out of the top 25 tomorrow. Oh, yeah. They're going to go from two to out of the top 25.
00:31:12
Speaker
That's a big freaking jump. Yeah, they might be in the 30s, maybe 30s or 40s. Three straight losses is not good for any program. Omar is going to score. So. So, yeah, I mean, the there's no. The guards are decent, but.
00:31:35
Speaker
The guy that they brought in Mahaney hasn't been that great. And he was supposed to take up Tristan's role. Was he a rookie mean sophomore freshmen? He's a senior. He's a senior transfer. And he was like really good at St. Mary's. But he just hasn't been so good so far. Yeah. So like he just hasn't played well. So you think he hasn't acclimated to the system that well.
00:31:56
Speaker
I think it's a little bit of both. I they the first two games of Maui, like he was really ineffective and then they ended up benching him for they only played him like eight minutes in the third game. Is he a guy like Newton who was like really good? Maybe not like a super insane score, but like really good at controlling the pace of the game. Yeah, good. Like he was a really good point guard at St. Mary. He was the best available guard in the transfer window. OK. Or the transfer portal. I mean, how many games are they now?
00:32:26
Speaker
Right now on the season. They've only played five games. No, no, I've played more I thought there I mean I have not been paying attention. I was thinking they're close like okay, they're five and three and the three losses came just now. Yeah, so
00:32:42
Speaker
The other problem is, I mean, obviously it's hard to replace two straight, like dominant centers, like with Sanogo and Clingan, but Sampson hasn't been that great. And the guy they brought in, Reed, he's a transfer.
00:33:03
Speaker
I mean, I'm still up by a good amount, but damn, I didn't need that touch. Whatever it is, it is. But he's been solid, too, but it's just he hasn't been given the starting role yet because I think they value seniority on the team. And Samson's been there for three years and taking his lumps and, you know, kind of taking the backseat to two of the most dominant centers that colleges see in the past ten years and time. Yeah. So they're giving him the starter minutes. And I don't think he should be getting the starter minutes. The defense.
00:33:33
Speaker
Just isn't as locked down as it usually is. Which has been their calling card last couple of years. Like that's been a hurly staple. And the offense can still get buckets, but if it goes cold like there's been a decent turnover with the roster now. Yeah, they lost four starters. Yeah, that's going to matter. Yeah, almost was caribbean as well until you reset or return. Yeah, he's already got a concussion. He did. Yeah, I don't know if he'll be. We do. We play a gauntlet of games next week. We play Baylor on Wednesday.
00:34:00
Speaker
Texas, I think. I think it's Baylor, Texas, Saturday and then Gonzaga. Okay. So it's going to be a rough stretch. Tampa and Carolina went to overtime. Damn, Tampa must have scored a score. They got down with like 30 seconds. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. But okay. So it's going to be.
00:34:22
Speaker
And that will comes out every Monday morning. Yeah. So they're going to get knocked out, which is fine. It's expected. The thing is, for me, I'm not as concerned about the team because I think it's hard to make adjustments overnight. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're only getting it's literally back to back to back nights. Right. They're not getting games between like days in between between games. It's it's hard to say because, you know, you should be showing up at all times like whenever you play, but like
00:34:47
Speaker
Well, Hawaii's a seven hour time difference, right? Something like that. It's a very big time gap. So they're going from Hawaii or they're coming from here, going to Hawaii. Like one of the games they played it was at midnight, like our time.
00:35:03
Speaker
Yeah, I saw a handful of the games were going pretty late. I was like, I saw the North Carolina games were starting around like 11 30 minutes. Yeah. Oh, and like, yeah, because it's a different North Carolina, you know, every other team in that tournament had to play by those rules. So it is like an even playing. Yeah, but it's like it's a huge change for the kids. And you don't get that much time to adjust. No. Oh, my God. That would have sucked. I will fix.
00:35:30
Speaker
You good right there? Yeah, you're good. Like usually in regular college basketball, if you lose a game on Saturday, you have until like Wednesday to change things in practice. You have, you know, hours. And again, the tournament does that, too, where in March, you have games or you got a day in between. You get Friday, you get Thursday and then Saturday or Friday, Sunday. We're like a couple days in between. Yeah. So.
00:35:58
Speaker
So it's tough to adjust. And especially like the way they lost the first two games of being in one possession games, especially because they came back from like 13 down with like three minutes to go. Wow. Like in that Memphis game, it's like, all right, I really don't. Good fight. Yeah. The only thing that is really upset me, like there are obviously there are holes in the team that need to be addressed and like they need to figure some stuff out and practice this week before playing Baylor.
00:36:22
Speaker
but really the thing that like has got me like Upset or like annoyed at the team is like the way Hurley has been like acting mm-hmm like He went to the press conference was like yeah, like I was right like I shouldn't like they they're on a power trip blah blah blah blah blah like you know like the refs keep calling like bad calls or whatever against us and it's like yes, but You have one of the worst reputations with the refs out of any college coach. I think in the country
00:36:52
Speaker
and you threw yourself on the floor, like you deserve the tech. I don't know what else to say. Like, I think it just it's tough and it's not right. This doesn't justify it. He's just probably grown extremely frustrated because there's probably like maybe a lot of discipline stuff, small little detail stuff that he had built up with that veteran core. And now he's like doing this with a whole new unit. And it's like when you come off two straight championships, you know, as a program, you have very high standards. Yeah.
00:37:22
Speaker
Yeah, it's just tough when you're bringing in a whole new group of people expecting that same like who's left outside of Caravan like real rotational guys and Samson are like three Main rotation guys are left. Yeah with the program
00:37:39
Speaker
It's a big change. It is. No, it definitely isn't. I get it. It's probably an adjustment, especially when none of those guys are what in your first, second, third, fourth, fifth best players. Yeah. And they played they played pretty well in the first four games before going to Maui, you know, against like obviously weak competition. But they looked fine in the ramp up, but obviously playing better teams showed what holes they have.
00:38:02
Speaker
And now is the time to adjust it. You know, that's why I'm like, I don't really have that much problem with the way the team played. Like, it's not great, but we haven't. I mean, not the same like people, you know, management or coaching in charge, but just as a school alone, we've had times where we've.
00:38:18
Speaker
falling out of tournaments and we've been able to readjust and figured out you know later on in the year so that's what i'm saying it's you know they they just have to pick up like the play going into march that's really it yeah but like i don't know i wasn't really a fan of the way he was like no acting as if like we're targeted for who we are sure and it's like oh people are off to get us and it's like maybe he just played bad ball yeah
00:38:43
Speaker
Maybe the guy shouldn't foul as much. I don't know. Like maybe so. I mean, I get it. Some of those calls are bad. You know, like it happens. But yeah, like it's all. That's just the way the game is. I don't know what to tell you. Maybe also not a crucial moment. Are you getting technicals? Yeah. And some are just ways you got to know you're an overtime down one or down two at that point and you're getting a little more than anybody should know the moment.
00:39:07
Speaker
Yeah, especially as of late in big moments playing these tournament games. Now granted, even the last two years they've been in these tournament games, we haven't really had like. Late game down to the wire dominated, right? Both tournaments fairly easily, so they just haven't had those games, I guess so. Yeah.
00:39:23
Speaker
Maybe he's also learning to deal with these close games and hasn't been making the right calls. Yeah. Like in terms of like play calling and like the right adjustments and such. I haven't been watching. Yeah, it's just, you know, it's a little not even frustrating because it's like, again, they won two natties in a row. I really don't care what they do for the next couple of years. Fantastic. I go. You know what I mean? Like he's a great recruiter. Like I know he's going to bring talent through the door. So I don't really care. But it's just like.
00:39:49
Speaker
you gotta be a little bit better than this. You have to have your emotions in check. You can't just do that. And then what's been tough is while they were at the tournament, amidst the losses, our athletic director was saying, hey, I think we're probably done with these kind of tournaments. I think even before we were losing- You mean like choosing to be a part of the tournament?
00:40:14
Speaker
Yeah, or just like doing any like holiday week tournament in general. He was like, I think we should be doing home and home series and then like big arena games instead because they're not making any revenue off of this because it's not there. Like it's the Maui tournament. So the Maui tournament, invitational, whatever makes the money. And then it costs them to go across the like seven hour flight or whatever it is, maybe even more. I don't know. But
00:40:44
Speaker
to send these kids to Hawaii and then pay for their, you know, accommodations and, you know, whatever. So they're like, yeah, we're we're just going to stop doing this. And obviously people didn't take too kindly to that because it's been tradition.
00:40:57
Speaker
Right. It is teams like Kentucky doesn't do it. OK. I mean, for us specifically, I feel like I've seen you go in this tournament for quite a while. I think we've done Maui a bunch. We went to Bahamas for a couple of games. I think like the Battle of Atlantis. There are some other tournaments. So I never knew this was like by choice. You could choose whether or not you want to partake. Yeah, because it's an invitational.
00:41:16
Speaker
So what they're saying is like we would rather do home and homes and then like do more games at MSG or something Which I think is smart because I'm blaming more money for the program But it obviously just looks really bad when you went and lost three in a row and had a temper And then and then you're like, you know what? Maybe we don't want to be and it's like yeah, or you got your ass beat and you're walking or like walking around like a sore loser
00:41:37
Speaker
because I think it's the right move, like not. That wasn't from Harley, though. That was from like both. They both. Oh, OK. Yeah. So like everyone's like, yeah, you guys are just being bitches and like leaving. And it's such a bad look. But I think I think they're right. Like, absolutely. Like bias aside, it's like.
00:41:53
Speaker
program bleeds money like they do need to bring funds into the athletic department and I think home and homes are way more beneficial for bringing in money and like bigger like MSG games too like they got a cut they don't get all of it but they get a cut yeah it still brings in more money yeah so
00:42:15
Speaker
I get why they're doing it, but it's just a bad look to say it the week you lose three in a row at a tournament, just to be like, yeah, we're out doing these anymore. Yeah, you can't do that. That's bad. So, we'll see. Again, I don't really have that many worries about the team. We'll see what happens in the next three games. I think that's a bigger indicator if we go with three. I think one and two is acceptable, depending on how they play.
00:42:45
Speaker
If they are keeping it close and they're losing in like one, two possession games, I'm not going to be that concerned. Cause I think that's again, that's stuff that can get ironed out. You just missed a couple of shots. You know what I mean? Two possession game. You just missed a couple, but if they're getting blown out in all three and they're playing like shit and they're turning the ball over, then it's kind of like, all right, readjustment of my expectations. This team probably doesn't make it past the first weekend in March.
00:43:11
Speaker
Which is fine. Again, anything is acceptable after the last two years. I don't care. I just want to make the tournament this year. Yeah. They can win two straight and then you still make the tournament. I mean, that's pretty. Yeah. If they were to win two straight and then miss the tournament, that is a little bit concerning when you've brought in talent and like you're creating, trying to create a dynasty and then you just miss it altogether. It's like, yeah, it's like you at least got to get there. Yeah. But I do think.
00:43:37
Speaker
The three Pete's not in the cards, for sure. No, yeah, I think. And I know it's like a little bit too early to say, but like, I think the team has too many cracks at the moment that if they're not sorted out by January, like, how are you expecting them to win seven in a row or six in a row, whatever it is in March? So it's all right. We'll see what happens. I'm not, like I said, not pressed. Anything that happens for this team is a plus. They've already won enough. So.
00:44:10
Speaker
Anything else you have on your mind? Thoughts on your Steelers?
Steelers' Division Chances and Chiefs' Fan Dynamics
00:44:19
Speaker
As you're nine and three now we're better than people think one of the vision I think as we are watching this live Philly just beat Baltimore so give you guys a big one beating It sucks. I knew this is gonna happen. They go out and they lose to the Browns Terrible terrible manner at loss But again the brown it's a division. I don't even consider it like a bad loss. The Browns always show up to play against Yeah, I think we're like
00:44:44
Speaker
Since Ben is retired, I think they have like four. They've won the last four or five maybe divisions even when the titles. No, no, but matchups against both. I mean, Cleveland. Yeah, I think they've won the last few. Nice. OK, but they only show up to play us because they're still finishing at the basement of the division and the end of the league, honestly. Yeah. So.
00:45:06
Speaker
It sucks to have lost that one, knowing that, you know, we, especially after today, where we come out and we trounce the Bengals for a little, like, it was still a one possession game. It ended up being a four point game, but like, I think we... Four or six, was it 44? 44 to 30, oh no, it was 38. I think we beat the brakes off those guys.
00:45:34
Speaker
Comparatively to the way that we've been playing them before and I Don't know. It's just weird to see 44 points put on the board for Pittsburgh I'll with this team how they've been struggling kind of yeah, that's their own I know they had the fumble recovery for a touchdown. Do they have a pick six? I don't think they had a pick six They had a pick. Okay, so that was their only defensive score and they have like a special team score, right? Yeah 37 points geez
00:45:59
Speaker
Maybe not 30. I mean, if you if you count the field goals. Yeah, I mean, the offense generated 37 points. Yeah, I'm not saying they went in. Yeah, but that's impressive. Do you think they had nine wins now through 12 weeks, 12 games? How much of a chance do they have? No, no, they're not. They're not legit, man. No, it's. It's not that they're not legit. What is your go ahead? I just.
00:46:29
Speaker
I still think there are going to be, I just don't think we've played the toughest competition in the AFC yet. Do you have that on the schedule? Do you have the Chiefs on the schedule? You could beat the Chiefs. I know it's my home. It depends. Yeah, it really depends. My home always carves us up, which worries me, but looking at the rest of our schedule, and this is the thing, everyone was like, oh yeah, they're gonna end up losing to like,
00:46:55
Speaker
After the Browns game, they have like a bunch of losses in their way. And I was like, I think we beat the Bengals at least once. I was right about. But we have the Browns next week. OK. Which I think we end up winning. We always split with them here in Pittsburgh. Yeah. And then we have the Eagles, the Ravens, the Chiefs and the Steelers, the Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs, Bengals. Yep. So solid schedule coming up. Yeah.
00:47:24
Speaker
So it's like if we go three and two You'd be what twelve and five and I think that's enough to win the division depending on which three we beat Yeah, cuz if you get the ball if you think if you get the ball I want to say shit the bat on the other ones if you get the Baltimore game You kind of you put the you put the division away. Yeah, it's already a split between us like we've already beat Baltimore this year
00:47:47
Speaker
Oh, so if you win, you play a lot more again, right? Yeah. So I'm saying if they win, if that's one of the losses. Yeah. And we both end up 12 and five because I think they're eight and five right now after losing to the. To the Eagles. Oh, yeah. And they have a they don't have an easy schedule. Yeah, you have a two game difference on them. Yeah. But they have the Giants. Yeah, they'll be the Giants. They have us. OK. The Texans and the Browns.
00:48:16
Speaker
So I feel like I could win all I could see them winning all four and if they end up beating us We both finished at 12 and five and then it's I don't know what the ending I don't know what the split is like the next tiebreaker other than like I think it might be division wins division division record Then it's gonna be conference record And then it's
00:48:41
Speaker
Yeah, conference record and then record in similar games me record in similar games is either third or fourth on that chain. Yeah, and that's based off that just means if the similar teams that you've played who has a better record in those games, but sometimes I don't know. Yeah, so we'll see. But
00:49:01
Speaker
Yeah, I just I don't know. The Chiefs will be a big indicator of what this team really is. It could be chaos ball like the Chiefs have been playing out of their mind like the Chiefs have been winning in spite of being bad and the Steelers are just playing out of their minds to get wins.
00:49:18
Speaker
so it might just be two chaos teams facing each other. I would be so irate, sorry sidebar, if the Chiefs end up winning the title again this year for as porous as they played. This is and it's funny because you know maybe you'll be able to answer this being the number one bronze stan but it feels like like the latter years of bronze where it's like they're not turning it on until playoffs.
00:49:41
Speaker
Yeah, they're chilling. They're winning games because they're like, you know, they're going to win games. The Chiefs are good, but like they're kind of just, you know.
00:49:50
Speaker
taking a little bit in cruise control, and then now that we're in December, I think they start ramping it up. The only difference I would say, and yes, I am a huge Lebron fan, Lebron hasn't won shit since the bubble. Chiefs are back to back champions. So for the Chiefs perspective, whether it's the talent that's actually on the roster or them just kind of being in this cruise control, they've earned that. You know? Yeah. No, I can see that. Lebron, I can see, sure, but as a part of this unit,
00:50:21
Speaker
Yeah, they won the finals. That's huge. And then the other year was what, two years ago when they made the conference finals against Denver. And every time they play Denver, even though Denver has their number, the series is always close, but Denver just wins at the end because Jamal Murray turns into like the best point guard in the playoffs most of the time, except for last year.
00:50:42
Speaker
But I see what you mean. That, OK, cruise, cruise, cruise, whatever. But the Chiefs also end up finishing with great records. Yeah, you're right. Los Angeles for the Lakers and the NBA have not really, you know? Yeah. Sort of decent this year. But I mean, I hear what you're saying, kind of. I see the comparison.
00:50:59
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, my it's it's tough because I don't know if they end up beating us, but like my stock is like if it's not us, I it's weird to say it as a division rival, but like I'd love to see the Ravens win it. The Super Bowl. Yeah, I do think it's going to end up being whoever comes out of the NFC to win the title. Yeah. Yeah, I do think the lines and the equals look really good. I was going to say, I think it's going to be Philly and Detroit in the conference championship.
00:51:27
Speaker
I think it's Philly and either them playing either the Lions or the Packers. Yeah, I'm hoping it's the Lions. I don't really. You don't fuck with the Packers. I don't know. I don't know why, but I would rather one of the guys at work is a huge Detroit fan and has been for like decades. He's from Michigan. I want to see them win. Yeah. And like this is the first time he's really been able to like talk football and he's like been really happy about stuff and shout out not he he's.
00:51:54
Speaker
I'm not trying to sound demeaning. That's such a great feeling I can only imagine. So he's real excited about this team. And it's like, hey, if the Lions win, that's cool. They're a team that hasn't won a Super Bowl, so I don't really care. I feel like if the Lions feel like a team that if they made the Super Bowl.
00:52:11
Speaker
unless at some point between now and then they are granted some of the plays they've done against these defenses have been disrespectful like they'll run it up. Yeah. But I mean, like in regards to like them coming off as like a disrespectful team or saying stuff or acting super cocky or anything like that, if they just kind of keep what they've been at, you know, you know. Not going out and talking shit in a sense, and they just keep doing what they're doing. I feel like they'd be a team if they made the Super Bowl. They're like,
00:52:38
Speaker
If you're not a fan of the other team that's playing in the Super Bowl, everybody's going for it. I think everybody wants to see the Lions. If it ends up being Detroit versus Kansas City, the only fans ready for the Chiefs will be Chiefs from. Yeah. Well, the whole country will be behind the Lions. Yeah. The thing with the Chiefs, though, which is weird is many people as as much as people hate them, ironically enough.
00:53:03
Speaker
they somewhat have this odd number of a fan base outside of their core fans because the couple of decades prior to the whole Mahomes thing was Brady and people feel that if Mahomes can keep winning, it can kind of pass Brady, right? So like that kind of odd fan base. Anybody that hates the Patriots will be rooting for the Chiefs, I guess, kind of. Yes and no, because I do think guys will be like, I don't want anyone to touch our records.
00:53:31
Speaker
What do you mean like one Super Bowl for another Super Bowl from Holmes gets him closer to Brady, right? So like I feel like people could be rooting like Brady fans could be rooting against. Oh, no Brady fans. Yeah, I'm saying fans that people Yeah, we'll be rooting for I could be rooting for the cheese and I also think that because of the like you guys a Taylor Swift She's also captured or the cheese of captured a lot of her fan bases. I've been watching much of the cheese slash
00:54:01
Speaker
Feel like the noise has been a little quieter this year about it, but is it still everybody can bet she's complaining No, I don't think anyone's complaining anymore because she's out like every game now. Yeah, so they just don't care Showing up here and there yeah, there's doing the stump stats. Oh look at the games Kelsey Kelsey's numbers in the game. She shows up involved and I think a lot of it was like Oh, this is like a fake relationship, but now it's kind of like she's that like every game Mm-hmm cuz she's not really touring anymore right so like
00:54:28
Speaker
What are you going to say now? You know what I mean? But it has. I don't think anyone from my family outside of my dad listens to this, but one of my cousins is a massive Taylor Swift fan and has since become a massive Chiefs fan because of like, did they watch football prior? No. OK, no, I don't think they watch football prior at all. But now every Chiefs game day,
00:54:56
Speaker
She will post about how bad Patrick Mahomes is.
00:55:01
Speaker
This sounds like, so she's a cheese fan, but hates my homes, whatever, and probably because Kelsey's not getting the ball enough for her sake, and it comes off at a different perspective, but the boy that hates Jalen. Yes, it does. It sounds exactly like it. Where's this guy now? Oh, I think he's mellowed out on it. You guys still have conversations? Not really, no. I think he knows Jalen's good.
00:55:26
Speaker
He just didn't talk about it. He's not like I'm wrong. My apologies. I was dumb. Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't do that.
AFC MVP Race and NBA Insights
00:55:33
Speaker
But she will be like, yeah, like the Chiefs are now eleven and one in spite of Patrick Mahomes. And it's like, what are you talking about?
00:55:41
Speaker
You know if Patrick Mahomes is in the quarterback of this team, this team probably has four wins. They're one in 11. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The defense is the defense is good, but it's taken a step back. And if you put any other quarterback in this situation with the receivers, they don't have, by the way, they're not winning anything. Let me see if I could pull up a post. Random question. I don't know if you have the answer to this. Do you know how many more years Deop has on his contract? He might be a free agent.
00:56:07
Speaker
I was wondering, I'm like, maybe that's why they made the move for him. But a flyer out, but I was wondering if you have more than a year left on his deal. It's like, oh, you get maybe who knows at what point, but if she writes comes back next season and you start building up that core again, but. OK, so this is your cousin. Yeah, let me see if I could find one.
00:56:25
Speaker
I mean, it seems like she's making like post posters. She like post Facebook. Yes. Oh, it seems like she's she's watching like the she just posted about the Panthers Bucks game. So she's watching football. Oh, she's got it. This is cool. You know what I mean? It's not just a Travis and Taylor thing. That's a
00:56:43
Speaker
Bring a football tomorrow. So that's all right. This was this was posted during the Steelers but Engels game My team is the Chiefs but damn that Joe Burrow is dreamy and he could actually throw a football properly. Sorry, not sorry Patrick Sorry, not sorry making it up. Oh, no reason. I'm broke. It's like the rock Good morning to everyone except Patrick Mahomes
00:57:10
Speaker
LOL Raiders offense choked last minute and basically gave us the game. Great game, guys, except for you, Mahomes. We could have played way better than that because of you. Wow. She despises Patrick Mahomes. I wonder why. I don't know. It's got to be the whole like she thinks Kelsey's open every play and he's not getting the ball. So she's upset that he's not getting like 50 catches for 10,000 yards and four touchdowns a game or whatever.
00:57:38
Speaker
That's gotta be it. Would you rather the backup be in? I promise you wouldn't. Yeah, I promise you wouldn't. But like, that's the thing. She's learning football, which is cool. You know, she still has like, I think a little bit more to learn about football. I'm not gonna ask your name. I don't wanna put people's name on this. If you ever see this, Vic's cousin. My home's really good at football. And Kelsey's obviously super talented. Obviously he's probably been the best at it in the league for like the last five years now. If not longer, but
00:58:09
Speaker
It's not for Patrick Mahomes. Kelsey has a very much different career. Yes, that's all. But I'm happy you're watching football. That's all. Yeah, it's nice. You know, but you don't have to make every post that doesn't have to be about anti Mahomes. You know what I mean? That's hilarious. Yeah, because it's not your your homes feeds your boy. So that's it. Yeah, it's just, you know, it's it's funny. That is so funny. That's freaking hilarious.
00:58:39
Speaker
So not super confident on the Steelers to win anything competitively. I'm just hoping we win one playoff game. And you told me you think the winner of the Super Bowl is going to be at the NFC and it's either going to be to Philly in Detroit. Yeah. And the AFC you say your favorite team is Buffalo.
00:58:54
Speaker
I think Buffalo ends up is the favorite. I think it's going to be them in Baltimore, and I'm hoping it's Baltimore because I would love to see Lamar get a ring. Oh, but I just don't. So if it's Baltimore, Detroit, you want Baltimore. You want Baltimore. I want Baltimore. It's one of those Super Bowls. I'm like, hey, I don't care who wins. It's a win in my book to win. Yeah, like this is just going to be a good game.
00:59:12
Speaker
What about Lamar versus hurts in the Eagles I'm rooting for hurts It's tough because I do want Lamar to get a ring because if he gets maybe a dope matchup Be a crazy matchup. I mean we got it today. Yeah, you know, we'll see what happens Down the line. I think the Lions might get Hutchinson back so they might be able to stop he could actually come back I think there's a chance he comes back for a deep playoff run
00:59:39
Speaker
I did read something. You have to be like the NFC Championship. Yeah, it has to be late. I don't know. I feel like I don't know the whole detail of the injury and I've not been keeping up. I'm not going to act like I'm a doctor. It just feels like it's one of those where it's like there's a chance statistically this guy could come back. They said that about Rogers last year with the right. And I really feel like it's one of those like, oh, could he medically like put on his cleats? Sure. But like, yeah, can he can play football? I don't know. But again, I don't remember all. Didn't his fucking didn't he dislocate his leg like his broke?
01:00:09
Speaker
He snapped the two lower leg bones. But bones are easier to heal. I know. But like if he tore something, I don't think he'd be back. But bones themselves are pretty easy to heal. It's just about what he could do. Explosiveness wise, I think. I just think it takes a while to come back to that. I mean, what are you going to put him out there? I mean, I hope he's running underwater, which like already. Yeah.
01:00:36
Speaker
So I think the progress isn't bad. Pretty good progress. He's already running a neurotic. They always do that to like when you have like. Right. Yeah. To build you back up. I'm saying if he's able to. That's a lot of resistance. So if you're able to do that. Yeah. So I think there's a chance. So that plays a factor.
01:00:52
Speaker
I was really sad when he got hurt because I'm like yo this guy cuz there's any from Michigan Yeah, he went to Michigan Am I right on that and then he's playing there and then I remember him having that big speech was last year When I think they're making they want to get playoff game or maybe they won the division title last year, whatever it was He like embodies that city in that franchise It's like it it feels it would be sweet if they wanted to be bittersweet if he wasn't like playing
01:01:17
Speaker
yeah even if in the regard maybe he's 50 he can get on the field that's still pretty cool so yeah i think i forget i think i guess after today it's not going to be as close but it depends on what josh alan does in like 20 minutes but
01:01:35
Speaker
I think there's a good chance Lamar wins his third MVP. He's in the running. You know, I think who would you say is the favorite? I think Alan's the favorite technically. Best record in the AFC. He's been scoring and, you know, again, and I think people realize that he doesn't have a real receiver.
01:01:53
Speaker
Funny to your point earlier, like to relate where you're talking about like odd for you to say that you would want Lamar and Baltimore to win when you're a Steelers fan. Because like I think we're all, you know, you probably like up Baltimore, but it's also like, yeah, you know, from our wins it cool. For me, it's like, you know, fuck Buffalo. But like also like if Josh Allen won MVP slash also won a title like that'd be pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, I think he is the front runner, but.
01:02:19
Speaker
If Lamar can get a third MVP and then a Super Bowl, I think even without the counting stats, those accolades alone put him in like the top 10 quarterbacks of all time.
01:02:31
Speaker
Sophie had three MVPs. Yeah, three MVPs and a Super Bowl. I think he gets into like how many people have won three or more. Let me check. If I had to guess, I think it's four. I'd say four because Brady's done it. Peyton's done it. And then far, I think. Farv has done it. Did Elway. Three is tough. Maybe Elway got like one or two. Oh, we got one, though, right?
01:02:59
Speaker
OK, so it's Brady Rogers, Roger Manning, Roger VAR, Johnny United. I don't care about Johnny. You nice and Jim Brown. I mean, OK, come on. Shout out. This is three or at least three. At least three. So we're at five or six. What was it? So we're at five quarterbacks. OK. And then Jim Brown. So six. Yeah. So he'd be the seventh player all time to ever do it. But.
01:03:25
Speaker
Jim Brown, I mean, quarterbacks alone, he's six. And then you add a Super Bowl on top of that. And then you also factor in the fact that he's 28. And there's room and time to go and grab another one. Another Super Bowl. We could play at least another seven years. Yeah. As long as he keeps himself healthy. So.
01:03:49
Speaker
It would be time to put him in that category if he won three. I would agree. And I think they're not going to give him that for the same reason they didn't give Jokic his last year of being like, oh man, if we give this guy three MVPs in a row, we have to start calling him one of the best centers of all time. And we don't want to do that. It might be one of those, which kind of worries me because I still think Jokic should have won that third straight MVP.
01:04:14
Speaker
And Bead went on a fantastic run to seal it for himself. I get it. But if we're being for real, it should have been Jokic.
01:04:27
Speaker
My I think maybe we talked about this my whole thing is like I do agree like it was a tight-knit race That year and the only reason why I did agree with why it ended up I think yoga just a better player, but why it was Joelle is because yoga just kind of like yeah He took his foot off the gas They were neck-and-neck and then the last two or three weeks of the season Yeah, he like took his foot off the gas and then in B took advantage of that and went sick So it's like that there that was only the only difference. Otherwise, I feel like it would have been a coin toss
01:04:57
Speaker
which like yeah and I think that's you know whatever but like I think it also showed I mean it's tough because it's regular season MVP you can't account for anything else after the regular season but like I think I mean if you don't think it already during the regular season that's where the huge separation is in the playoffs yeah because after that I mean Jokic
01:05:17
Speaker
way up yeah you know and even this year like it's tough because i get that mb that's been you know injured and you know has had his troubles with sure where how many i'll put it like this i wear how many years in with mb and his biggest mo and granted it's kind of ironic in this regard but his biggest moment is the
01:05:41
Speaker
semi-final game in the Olympics against Jokic That's the biggest moment of his career. Yeah
01:05:50
Speaker
but it's also, and a great international basketball, still basketball, it matters, but in the context of the NBA, I haven't done shit. Who cares, yeah. The biggest playoff moment that I remember Joel Embiid for is him crying off the court in Toronto, and that's the only lasting image I have of Joel in the playoffs, unfortunately. He could have won another series after that, I don't remember or care, because that is the lasting image, and I know that he hasn't done
01:06:20
Speaker
much else in the playoffs. Yeah, you're right. You're when you're that dominant of a player and injuries play a role, but you're constantly getting bounced. Yeah, like at some point you need to make your mark. Yeah.
01:06:33
Speaker
And it's also how many times you're going to start moving around the the supporting pieces. And at some point, somebody's got to start pointing the finger. Well, if we haven't already. Yeah. And I think, you know, Maxi tried to do that a couple of weeks. I love Maxi. Yeah, I heard about this team meeting there. He did. He was like, hey, man, some of your antics are like, show up late. I think he said, yeah, show up late to meetings and practice and stuff. And it's like,
01:06:58
Speaker
Yo, if that's true, I don't care how talented you are. The whole point of you being like the best players, like you hear all the stories about the greats. It's like, yeah, you're you're in the gym before everybody else. Like that was the stories about when Kobe's in the gym, Kobe's in the gym, in the Olympics, and he has Braun Wade. The whole roster is down there except for who? Do you know? Joe Allen beaten. No, no, no. Kobe was around Carmelo.
01:07:20
Speaker
This is the 0-8 run or whatever it was, or 12. But yeah, no, that stuff rubs off on people. When they see the team captain, the star of the show, getting in the gym first, leaving the gym last, that has an impression on a lot of people.
01:07:37
Speaker
and then the whole this was like this was the little shining bright spot it seems like at the end of the tunnel because it seems like players that are like the Joelle type that we've seen years after years in these situations where they come off winning in a title with a bunch of veterans that do all that stuff and have been those types of players or rubs off on the guy and it's like okay he comes out and he has an amazing year like everything is great and you're coming out not starting the season off before you've even played a game you've announced you're not playing back to backs
01:08:07
Speaker
at all?
01:08:09
Speaker
Yeah, there's a reason why I agree with that 65 game rule. I agree. That should, like, freak injuries happen, and I agree with load management, too. I fully agree with getting rest. I think some of the back-to-backs are dumb because there are gaps in the schedule where a team won't play for like four days, and then they schedule a back-to-back right after when it's like- And then some of these back-to-backs are egregious existence sometimes. Yeah. I know they try to make it as reasonable for a back-to-back, but like, sometimes it's like,
01:08:39
Speaker
Bro, you're making this team fly to X, Y, and Z, or they're playing it back to back and might be like, maybe they're playing a Saturday night and then they're playing like a Sunday matinee at noon or two o'clock or something. It's like, bro. It doesn't make sense. And I fully understand that. And I get it. The schedule doesn't need to change my opinion. But like,
01:08:56
Speaker
I don't know if you can't get yourself on the floor for 65 games. I don't think you should win MVP. Yeah. Unless you play 42 games and you get 42, 20, 20 and 20 triple doubles where you effectively are the best player in the world. Right. Right. But like the quantity matters, too. Yeah.
NBA Team Financials and Boston Celtics
01:09:17
Speaker
And the way it gets weird for me, even though I still agree, is the all NBA teams, because then you get some really weird names. The contrast being tied to this, too. Yeah, yeah, because the incentives and jumps and everything like that. That should not happen, but you're right. The NBA teams get weird. But it all plays into the league trying to balance out the league in terms of...
01:09:38
Speaker
having other guys make these teams get eligible for these huge bumps on their extensions. That way, these teams don't have as much malleability to make these crazy ass rosters. But Boston has figured out what they've done, but it's also what a lot of people don't know. It's like, oh, look at the roster Boston's put together. The reason why the owners are selling the team is because they actually can't afford the roster they've built.
01:10:04
Speaker
That's saying something. These are billionaires. Yeah, this. And they can't afford it. They just don't want fair. They don't want to pay for it anymore. But they don't want to pay for it. And that's telling you something. So like, I mean, if you have a guy like Jason Tatum on your roster still and you can keep Jaylen Brown and the rest is whatever, like you're still going to be one of those teams. But like this version of the team, like.
01:10:26
Speaker
Like they've won a championship cool, but they gotta win this one this year too. It's like really make your mark on this or it's like, did you just win one was this one time with this roster? You know what I mean? Like the most expensive like roster ever, like ever. They're also maybe the most well put together roster, I think.
01:10:42
Speaker
Oh yeah. In the history of basketball. I know how great the Warriors were. I know how amazing Steph was. I don't think any player on this roster is as good as Steph was in his prime or KD. But the collection of how well this lineup is put together and how well the pieces fit. They're deep. Like you have guys like Hauser and Pritchard coming. Pritchard's really elevated his game. They are struggling for time on this team. Yeah. Like you know what I mean? Like imagine if you stuck those two guys on the Warriors. Right now or just like back then. Back then.
01:11:12
Speaker
Yeah, not now. I mean, if you stuck them on them now, I mean, hey, the Warriors get even better. But I'm saying back then in those championship teams like, you know, where the Warriors did look almost fallible, like they almost lost that rocket series. They almost lose. Yeah. We're hard and goes berserk. And then they still lose. Yeah. So it's like there's I don't know.
01:11:32
Speaker
those guys like the Celtics I think are gonna win it again this year and that's great not really because I hate Boston sports fans but you know like the team itself good for them yeah
01:11:45
Speaker
Anything else? No, I think it's time to wrap it up. All right, y'all. Well, thank you for having me again. I appreciate it. Always be around. I know we've been talking about trying to do a mid-season football. That one out. It might not be a mid-season one at this point. It might be an end of the season just because we have two parties on each of our ends. Yeah, it is tough to schedule. So.
01:12:09
Speaker
But we'll figure that out if I don't but if we don't if I don't see you guys on this end Happy holidays to you all And if you're wondering is that says is I'm so bye. I mean, no, it's unmarked I'm part the reason but like scheduling's been a bitch. We're gonna get out some pods soon But definitely keep watching laundry in the basement. Oh, just been awesome Yeah, all right. See you guys next week. Thank y'all. Take it easy. Peace out
01:13:00
Speaker
to the calves really quick.