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bravo charlie club episode 039
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Fully Awake Project
- The hero’s journey
Travel tip of the week
- Planned unplanned trips can be fun.
Listener feedback
- Listener AT says “Dam is definitely a swear word, although it's so used in common language now that it may not be perceived as such. It literally means “curse”.
Conundrum of the week
- How long is “I’ll just be 5”?
https://time.com/6304708/heros-journey-psychology/
https://www.imoova.com
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction
00:00:05
Richard
Welcome to the Bravo Chali Club podcast, making you 12 and a half minutes more awesome each week. He's Ben, I'm Richard. Let's go. are you doing this week?
00:00:15
Ben
I'm really well, mate. Going very
Listener Engagement and Greetings
00:00:17
Ben
well. We've been meaning to call out a new listener countries and we have got new listener countries, but following our you know requirement to not do any research, I actually forgot to look up what the greeting was for our next listener country. So put a pin in it. We haven't forgotten you. I'll return next week with with a proper pronunciation.
The Hero's Journey in Life and Media
00:00:39
Ben
Hey, mate, the Fully Awake project this week, I wanted to talk about the hero's journey. You've heard of that term?
00:00:46
Richard
Oh, yeah. Yes, I have. Yeah, the hero's journey.
00:00:48
Ben
Yes. sir
00:00:48
Richard
Yeah.
00:00:49
Ben
So more specifically, I want to talk about the psychology of the hero's journey. And the reason for that is this so article I was reading, and I'll drop it into the show notes, basically gave you the impression that if you imagine yourself as a main character of a heroic adventure, it would help you achieve a more meaningful life.
00:01:11
Ben
Now, so now for listeners not familiar with the hero's journey, what I'm talking about, it's it's a common story structure popularized by a guy by the name of Joseph Campbell back in, I think, the 1950s, that is.
00:01:11
Richard
Oh, you're right. Yeah, okay.
00:01:22
Ben
nineteen fifty s that is And... Basically, if you think of your favourite movies, Harry Potter, Katniss Everdeen, you know, these these types of people, the basis is in its most elementary form that hero goes on adventure, there's a defining crisis which they emerge victorious from, and then they return home, change for the better.
00:01:44
Richard
Mm-hmm.
00:01:44
Richard
Yes. Yep.
00:01:46
Ben
And when you think about it, that is a metaphor for life. You know, you you grow up in one household and you you go away and you battle yeah you you battle all of these issues and problems because the hero's journey is not seamless, right?
00:01:56
Richard
Out into the big wide world. Yep.
00:02:03
Ben
You know, things things go wrong, you know.
00:02:05
Richard
Yes. Things go wrong all the time.
Ben's Personal Hero's Journey
00:02:07
Richard
Yeah. Yeah.
00:02:08
Ben
and times
00:02:08
Richard
Classic. Classic Ironman.
00:02:09
Ben
this
00:02:10
Richard
Right?
00:02:10
Ben
Tony Stark blew up his workshop.
00:02:11
Richard
Yeah. and Because he's back in there. He's in the forest. Oh, he's building stuff in a barn or yeah blowing up his workshop.
00:02:15
Ben
Correct.
00:02:27
Richard
Yes. just Because my life as a mild man and IT professional, there's a lot of parallels with Tony Stark, but yeah.
00:02:28
Ben
Slightly...
00:02:34
Ben
There's slightly fewer supercars in your garage, I
00:02:37
Richard
more bikes more more push bikes more road bikes yeah for sure
00:02:38
Ben
More bikes. Yeah. Yeah. You've got them covered on the road bike, you know, count.
00:02:46
Ben
Yeah.
00:02:46
Richard
i've got a very strong hat game as well i haven't seen tony in a lot of different hats uh anyway yeah cap exactly
00:02:46
Ben
Actually...
00:02:50
Ben
yeah You do have a strong hat game. Yeah. go To go with, to go cap game, go with your white t-shirts. and I had an interesting one this week, which sort of had me thinking about it. I was at my physio, and part of my hero's journey, if you will, is overcoming these knee surgeries that I've sort of been beating me up and I've been a bit broken.
00:03:12
Ben
And I was at the, physios and and we're looking at some of the x-rays which are like almost horror movies and i said to her you know there's a chance you could use these as you know as a thesis study and she said oh a chance we we already do like so yeah yeah so
00:03:33
Richard
Everyone knows you as leg guy in five states in Australia.
00:03:37
Ben
sir And I was talking to my wife about it. She said, oh, yeah, I was in there with because my daughter sees the same physio. And she said, I was in in there talking to the physio and she had a a grad student with her and was saying to her, oh, I've got to show you all the x-rays of Ben's knee and legs.
00:03:54
Ben
It's like, it's it's an amazing story to have a look at. it And i was like, okay, so there you are.
00:03:58
Richard
Wow.
00:03:59
Ben
I've reframed myself. That's my hero's journey. I'm i'm knee guy or or something something along those lines.
00:04:06
Richard
Yeah, yeah.
00:04:08
Ben
So i guess my my shout out to listeners is, well, have a read of that, if you will, the link which we'll drop into the show notes, but also... yeah if If there's a time in your life where you need a little bit of of thought, maybe yeah reframing yourself in your own stories is probably not the worst thing that could happen to you Make a Disney character out of yourself.
00:04:30
Ben
I loved it.
00:04:31
Richard
I love it.
00:04:31
Ben
I loved it. Yeah.
Unplanned Travel Adventures
00:04:33
Ben
Hey, travel tip of the week, mate. I promised to go on an unplanned, planned trip
00:04:43
Ben
a few weeks ago. You remember? And, yeah.
00:04:46
Richard
I do, I do, I do. So I want to know, but I mean, before we get into it, an unplanned planned trip.
00:04:50
Ben
Yeah.
00:04:52
Richard
So like, does that mean, you plan to go, but you didn't know where you'd end up?
00:04:52
Ben
Yeah.
00:04:57
Richard
Or does it mean you didn't know when you were going and you didn't know where you'd get to, or you knew the approximate time you were like, what what is that?
00:05:05
Richard
What is the, what are we dealing with here?
00:05:07
Ben
So so so you're you're probably in the second camp where you didn't know where you were going or where you'll end up. And and that's that that's probably a true unplanned trip. Mine was I knew I had to get to Adelaide. I just didn't know how I had to get back.
00:05:22
Ben
So what happened was our family attended a funeral and the flights were right around the time of a golf event, Live Golf, these millionaire guys flying in and booking out all the accommodation and everything.
00:05:34
Richard
Oh, yeah, with the jets and stuff. Yeah, yeah.
00:05:36
Ben
So it was costing a bomb to get everyone in and out of the city. And so i took a one-way flight because I didn't have too many plans around, you know, what was happening the few days following.
00:05:49
Ben
And then made the decision to drive from Adelaide to Sydney using a a vehicle relocation service call called iMover.
00:05:59
Richard
I, I'm over.
00:06:01
Ben
Yeah, you'll never guess how to spell it I'll put the link in the show notes.
00:06:03
Richard
Oh, it sounds like an Apple product. Can I have an I'm over? Thanks. i it hey
00:06:10
Ben
it It probably could be an Apple product, but I don't think they own this one. The the spelling suggests that they weren't aligned to it.
00:06:16
Richard
No.
00:06:20
Ben
I-M-O-O-V-A. I could have asked asked you to guess that 50 times and you wouldn't have got it.
00:06:24
Richard
Right. No one's. That's one of those things where they have to have the name on the company, then they have a tagline underneath to explain the name.
00:06:32
Ben
yeah
00:06:33
Richard
Then they have to have a bigger thing underneath the tagline to explain the tagline.
00:06:56
Richard
Yeah.
00:06:57
Ben
And they have to be returned. And so they offer them up very cheap and you cover your fuel them and obviously pay for insurance. But they yeah you know that they offer them to people willing to do the return leg.
00:07:10
Ben
because their option is to pay someone to drive it back or put it on a truck or know offer it cheap so i i did that and but there's nothing guaranteed about it and so i booked an adelaide to sydney one and then the day before i was due to pick up this vehicle they cancelled it on me and i went back onto the website well they just suddenly the vehicle wasn't available i i didn't actually
00:07:27
Richard
Oh, because someone else had just booked it. And so they're like, yeah, someone's taking it to somewhere.
00:07:33
Ben
I didn't ring them and ask them for the full details as to why they, you know, ruined my unplanned trip.
00:07:33
Richard
Yeah.
00:07:39
Richard
It's true.
00:07:40
Ben
But an Adelaide to Melbourne option.
00:07:42
Richard
So you're sort of on standby then. You don't really know until, yeah.
00:07:44
Ben
Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably are a little bit. Look, I may have just been unlucky. It may not be like that, but that was my thing. first experience but then an adelaide to melbourne one came up and i was like okay it still gets me out and you know for for my for the my purpose it actually worked out quite well and they give you a certain number of kilometers that you can travel that's included in the in the rent and so
00:07:52
Richard
Yeah.
00:08:05
Richard
Yeah, right.
00:08:09
Ben
They gave me 1,350 kilometres and I'd rolled into Melbourne at 1,340 kilometres. I was right on the on the cusp of having to pay. And it's quite a penal you know kilometre charge.
00:08:20
Richard
Yeah. right
00:08:22
Ben
It's like 55 cents a kilometre, which, you know, could you imagine if you were 100 k's out, suddenly yeah you're burning some serious k's.
00:08:29
Richard
yeah
00:08:30
Ben
You know, I guess when you offset that to the rental costs, it probably makes sense that they have to try and grab you somewhere. Yeah. So, but fascinating, you you tend to be moving motorhomes or camper vans or or things like this. There are some, like if you go onto the website, there's some bizarre scenarios where they're asking people to move a compact car from Sydney to Perth.
00:08:52
Ben
Now, a compact, you imagine like a Swift or a Corolla or a tiny little, could you imagine?
00:08:55
Richard
Oh, drawing a rollout to Perth, that'd be a nightmare.
00:09:00
Ben
And then there's, where do you sleep? Like, but we'll give you 10 days to drive the car across, but like, what am I sleeping in the back of it? It's just, it's nuts. Yeah. So, yeah, but I found it very enjoyable and wanting to do it again and absolutely suited my purpose because there was one regional town that I needed to get to for for a work, you know, activity and and it absolutely suited me down to the ground.
00:09:10
Richard
Yeah.
00:09:25
Ben
So there you go. I've done it. It's the the unplanned trip commitment has been achieved. Any questions?
00:09:33
Richard
Fantastic. Well, sounded like it was fun. Would you do it again?
00:09:36
Ben
It was. Yes.
00:09:37
Richard
The unplanned trip? Would you plan another unplanned trip?
00:09:38
Ben
Yes. I'll definitely plan another unplanned trip. Actually, what I will do is I'll plan another vehicle relocation.
00:09:47
Richard
Yeah. Oh, a different one.
00:09:49
Ben
Yeah, so and interestingly, where we live on Brisbane, you know, Gold Coast, it's a bit of a hub. And for international listeners, this is not an Australian service. It's actually worldwide.
00:10:01
Ben
So America, Europe and stuff like that as well. So if it if you're if you're looking for something cool, again, i'll I'll drop it in the show notes, but there is far more.
00:10:04
Richard
Oh, wow, okay, yeah.
00:10:11
Ben
it's it's definitely There's some really good opportunities in Australia, there's no doubt. but it's more than that. It's much more than that. It's everywhere. So worth a worth a look. And it makes sense.
00:10:21
Richard
Fantastic, yeah.
00:10:21
Ben
If someone flies into LA and wants to drive a motor home to Miami, and someone's got to drive it back, you know? So it's a yeah it was a lot of a lot of fun.
00:10:29
Richard
Yep, yeah.
00:10:33
Ben
There you
Listener Feedback and Language Nuances
00:10:33
Ben
go.
00:10:34
Richard
Excellent.
00:10:35
Richard
Good stuff.
00:10:35
Ben
any Any listener feedback, mate, this week?
00:10:40
Richard
We had some listener feedback from AT writing in to say, damn is definitely a swear word, although it's also used in common language and that may not be perceived as such.
00:10:46
Ben
What?
00:10:48
Ben
Yes.
00:10:50
Richard
Literally, it means curse. So there you
00:10:53
Ben
Curse. Well, I suppose that does make it a swear word by definition.
00:10:58
Richard
go. Sort of, yeah.
00:10:58
Ben
who Thanks for holding us accountable. We did ask for listeners to write in and and hold us accountable on that one.
00:11:02
Richard
We did.
00:11:06
Ben
Our listeners can leave a comment, send us a text, join the inner sanctum if you will. Those links will also be in the show notes along with our amazing vehicle relocation hack. Calundrum of the week, mate, you had one you wanted to raise.
00:11:20
Richard
Well, it's it's the it's a bit of a parodial one. How long is I'll just be five?
00:11:26
Ben
Well,
00:11:26
Richard
I'll just be five. It is, well, you'd think so. But I think it's actually, i think it depends...
00:11:31
Ben
how long else can it be?
00:11:34
Richard
depends who's giving you the I'll just be five too. But so, you know, having a having a significant other, you know, I've come to understand that her just be five can has a high degree of flexibility in the five area.
00:11:50
Richard
But also I think when you get a text message from someone and they're you're they're running late for a meeting and it says, I'll just be five, it is it kind of understood that that can be like up to 15?
00:11:53
Ben
yeah
00:11:58
Ben
Yeah.
00:12:02
Richard
Like what is the,
00:12:03
Ben
Yeah. It's a good question.
00:12:04
Richard
It's kind of like a means I'll just sort of, i'll just i'm I'm running late, I haven't forgotten, or I'm on the way. yep.
00:12:15
Ben
I think you and I are very lucky. like If one of my friends or colleagues sent me a message saying I'm 10 minutes late, they would almost certainly be there within eight minutes.
00:12:27
Richard
and
00:12:27
Ben
Like they they put them give themselves a bit of borrow time and then and then show up to the newly committed time, know, before then. Yeah, it's an interesting one.
00:12:38
Ben
I'll just be five. It could easily be 10 minutes.
00:12:41
Richard
I know, right? Yeah.
00:12:42
Ben
Yeah, if you don't know the person.
00:12:43
Richard
And then it could go either way. if you like, you know, then it's probably splitting hairs.
00:12:45
Ben
Yeah.
00:12:48
Ben
yeah Yeah. Yeah. My personality type, I've tended to send people messages saying I'm running late and still arrived on time.
00:12:51
Richard
Yeah.
00:12:59
Richard
Yeah. i now yeah
00:12:59
Ben
Because, because you know, what but what is it?
00:13:03
Ben
Punctuality is holiness or something like this. I've forgotten.
00:13:05
Richard
I think it's respect for people's time too.
00:13:07
Ben
Yeah.
00:13:08
Ben
Yeah.
00:13:09
Richard
yeah.
00:13:10
Richard
Uh,
00:13:10
Ben
and And it's not even – sorry, it is respect. Sorry, I don't mean to to move away from that.
00:13:18
Richard
disrespect me.
00:13:18
Ben
but but But I didn't mean to disrespect you. But uber Uber proved that people would much rather wait 10 minutes knowing where their car was than five minutes not knowing when it was arriving.
00:13:30
Ben
Yeah.
00:13:31
Richard
Ha.
00:13:31
Richard
Interesting. Yeah.
00:13:32
Ben
and And so it's the certainty that, you know, the commitment gives that is more important. And that's earned across the journey, right? If you're perennially late for everything, then, you know, you know you might find yourself in a situation where people tell you that the event starts a half an hour before it does just so that you can, you be on time.
00:13:44
Richard
Yes.
00:13:55
Richard
which is ridiculous, right?
00:13:56
Ben
not not speaking to, if anyone is taking that personally, then
Humorous Miscommunication Stories
00:14:00
Ben
that's on you. So,
00:14:06
Ben
yeah, go on, go on.
00:14:07
Richard
One day we're going yeah have it we're going over to my partner's friend's place and I said, what time do we need to go? and she says said, it'll take 15 minutes to get there. And okay, we need to be there at two. So, okay, so we're going to leave at 1.45. It's done. You know, we're at 1.45 and she's having a cup of tea. And I'm like...
00:14:28
Richard
are you having a cup of tea? And she's like, oh, well because we're just about to head out. know And I said, yeah, and well, I thought we were heading out. And that means we'll be late, right? So she says, yes, that's right. And I'm like, well, why didn't you make me a cup of tea? And she said, because you'd be mad at me because we'd be late. LAUGHTER
00:14:49
Ben
Oh my goodness. You're never going to win that.
00:14:51
Richard
like I didn't get a cup of tea. We got there late. don't know. Everything's yeah crazy.
00:14:56
Ben
That's it.
00:14:56
Richard
Well, anyway, yeah overcome those challenges.
00:14:57
Ben
That's part of the hero's journey, mate. There's less to There's less tea in your life. and That's it, Richard.
Podcast Wrap-up and Next Week's Preview
00:15:06
Ben
The listeners have been BCC'd on our week. And the next week's show, we're going to about dogs and pacemakers.
00:15:12
Ben
See you next week.
00:15:13
Richard
Oh,
00:15:14
Ben
Bravo, Charlie Club, out.
00:15:16
Richard
and that's the pod.