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bravo charlie club episode 043
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Fully Awake Project
- Vacuum cleaners with LCD screens ... Why? 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Travel tip of the week
- Hotel room alarm clocks ..
Listener feedback
- MM writes in and says “The chat about sports: for me a sport must involve 2 things: an element of competition and some level of exertion...”
- JT says “I completely agree with your response timeframes, Ben! Linked In messages go in the bin.
Conundrum of the week
- Killing two birds with one stone!
- Your wife, mate and boss all call at once. Which do you answer?
Thats the pod folks.
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Transcript
Introduction and Listener Shoutout
00:00:08
Richard
Welcome to the Bravo Charlie Club podcast, making you 12 and a half minutes more awesome each week. He's Ben, I'm Richard. Let's go. Ben, are you doing this week?
00:00:18
Ben
Amazing, mate. Just come back from an amazing yum cha lunch with some friends of mine. One of them's a listener.
00:00:24
Richard
Very nice. Very nice.
00:00:25
Ben
they'll They're quoting episodes of our podcast, mate. So very cool.
00:00:29
Richard
Epic.
00:00:30
Ben
Yeah, very cool to catch up with them. a new listener country call out. Indonesia's on board, mate. Now you've lived in Bali. So how about you greet our new friends?
00:00:38
Richard
I have lived in Bali.
00:00:42
Richard
Well, so there's a funny story there. Pretty much everyone took Balinese lessons apart from me because I was working while I was there.
00:00:45
Ben
Go on.
00:00:51
Richard
So I'll give it a go, but I'm probably murdering it terribly.
00:00:52
Ben
Okay. All right.
00:00:56
Richard
So the yeah yeah you can listener country call out Bali, Sulamat.
00:00:57
Ben
Yeah. Have a crack.
00:01:04
Ben
Well done. Well done. Suleiman.
00:01:06
Richard
There we go.
00:01:06
Ben
Spot on, mate. Sometimes, you know, i find that hello is actually a very universal greeting. You can get away with it. You can get away with it.
00:01:14
Richard
there's There's so many. If you think about English too, like there's, yo, and all sorts of all sorts of greetings for a kind of like hey, hi, whatever.
00:01:21
Ben
Yeah. You're right. You're right. it's only when you get into the the slang that you start to lose people.
Do Appliances Need Screens?
00:01:27
Ben
Now, this week we said...
00:01:28
Richard
Yep.
00:01:31
Ben
We wanted to discuss why does a vacuum cleaner need an LCD screen? So the back story is I was in a white goods place collecting a new item and I spotted this vacuum cleaner. i took ahll I'll put a photo in the sanctum.
00:01:52
Ben
It's got an LCD screen. What on earth... could you possibly need to have a readout of a vacuum cleaner for talk, talk me through it? Why is, why is this a thing?
00:02:02
Richard
I don't know. Maybe in case you need to suddenly browse the internet from your vacuum cleaner while you're doing vacuuming.
00:02:10
Ben
Okay.
00:02:10
Richard
I don't know.
00:02:10
Ben
Well, my followup question then the, the size has was announced as a screen, as a feature, as a selling feature.
00:02:12
Richard
it's
00:02:16
Ben
It was two points.
00:02:17
Richard
Yeah.
00:02:17
Ben
It was 2.3 inches. The screen. Now that's, that's not big.
00:02:22
Richard
2.3 inches. so that Is that like business card size?
00:02:27
Ben
Well, yes.
00:02:28
Richard
that right?
00:02:28
Ben
Yeah, that's probably not far off. it so And don't forget the the this this the angle, is it's a diagonal that that you measure it on.
00:02:35
Richard
Yeah.
00:02:36
Ben
So it's it's tiny.
00:02:39
Richard
That is tiny.
00:02:39
Ben
fuck
00:02:40
Richard
Oh, yeah, I've got no idea why you could possibly need that.
00:02:40
Ben
And what could possibly say the the bag's full? Like as soon as it stops sucking, you know that the thing's full.
00:02:48
Richard
It's really the only feedback.
00:02:48
Ben
Yeah. did
00:02:50
Richard
Bag full.
00:02:50
Ben
Oh, look, if it's battery operated, maybe they could tell you that the battery's about to run out.
00:02:51
Richard
You can probably...
00:02:56
Ben
But you know what? If it dies, you put it on charge, right? Like it's...
00:03:00
Richard
That's pretty much, yeah, but what you do.
00:03:01
Ben
I'm sorry. where i think we're inventing things that we just... That's that's a step too far for me.
00:03:06
Richard
Surely you'd play a sound, wouldn't you? You'd have the bag full sound, you'd have the sort of some other sound and you wouldn't put a screen in.
00:03:12
Ben
Instead of a screen?
00:03:12
Richard
like It's just something else that can break, right?
00:03:13
Ben
Yeah.
00:03:14
Richard
the screen.
00:03:14
Ben
Yeah.
00:03:15
Richard
Yeah.
00:03:15
Ben
Yeah. Fair call. I just...
00:03:17
Richard
Who was it it was it? It wasn't Samsung, was it? They love shoving screens and everything. I don't need a screen on the fridge.
00:03:21
Ben
Yeah.
00:03:22
Richard
I don't need...
00:03:22
Ben
Yeah. Well, you didn't know you didn't you didn't know you didn't need it.
00:03:26
Richard
That's true.
00:03:28
Ben
We know better. Yeah. We know fridges.
00:03:29
Richard
Richard, stay away from the fridge.
00:03:31
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:32
Richard
Back away.
00:03:33
Ben
Yeah.
00:03:34
Richard
yeah Yeah, true.
00:03:34
Ben
you' You're only the customer. We're the manufacturer.
00:03:36
Richard
Yeah.
00:03:37
Ben
Yeah.
00:03:38
Richard
You could get fridge analytics, couldn't you? Like a face scan or something.
00:03:41
Ben
that
00:03:42
Richard
Yeah.
00:03:44
Ben
Yeah. I want to stay on electronics for
The Redundancy of Hotel Alarm Clocks
00:03:46
Ben
a second, mate. in The travel tip of the week. if a hotel room didn't have an alarm clock, would anyone care?
00:03:55
Ben
Like I was in a hotel last week and the hotel alarm clock still had that.
00:03:56
Richard
Wouldn't care. look
00:04:01
Ben
You remember the 30 pin that the original,
00:04:04
Richard
Yeah, great.
00:04:04
Ben
i I've got...
00:04:05
Richard
So you can use your original i iPad on it.
00:04:07
Ben
Yeah. Yeah. so I'll just get my connector so I can turn it into USB-A and then turn it into lightning. Oh, now I need to get my connector to termant turn it to Type-C light. Sorry, guys. jesus Just chuck it out.
00:04:21
Richard
that's i think I think that's really the only use of those alarm clocks is that it's kind of got a whole bunch of USB interfaces in it.
00:04:28
Ben
Yeah, okay, to charge stuff on.
00:04:29
Richard
That's generally what, that's pretty much, you know, what I ever use those for.
00:04:34
Ben
I think the world can be saved from alarm clocks. like I think, you know, the phones and watches and, yeah, I think the the need for them is long gone.
00:04:39
Richard
Well, we've all got phones. Yeah.
00:04:44
Ben
i think at some point there'll be a hotel brand that does this really unique thing and removes them and it makes it okay and then the world will no longer have alarm clocks, I think.
00:04:53
Richard
Well, like if you need a wake-up call, don't you set it from reception anyway? Like if you're like a super heavy sleeper and you're worried about not getting your 5 a.m.
00:04:59
Ben
Yeah.
00:05:01
Richard
flight or something and yeah.
00:05:02
Ben
Yeah, and and they just log it into an electronic thing. Like i I sat one the other day actually and and got the call and it played music. it was It wasn't someone ringing to say you' it's time for you to get up, which I guess I was expecting, but I haven't really used an alarm clock of a wake a wake-up call for a while, so i didn't really know what to expect.
00:05:24
Richard
Oh, what's some time?
00:05:25
Ben
i was I was in a recent place and the television had a screensaver Like, so when it was off, it was on And as you know, i don't carry black dots big enough for that.
00:05:37
Richard
Oh, so it's like always on.
00:05:39
Ben
Yeah. And so I had to turn it off at the power. I knew how some of the televisions are like hidden.
00:05:45
Richard
Oh, yeah.
00:05:46
Ben
So you're like farming your way through.
00:05:47
Richard
You've got to get right behind the wall and stuff too.
00:05:49
Ben
Correct.
00:05:50
Richard
Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:50
Ben
Correct. going to have to start carrying a pair of side cutters so that I can just, what could go wrong?
00:05:56
Richard
Or maybe a stick so you could just hit the PowerPoint. That might be.
00:05:59
Ben
Yeah, that might be it.
00:05:59
Richard
Yeah.
00:06:00
Ben
i've been I've been asked by listeners why I even need the black dots, but the the reality is sometimes you can't reach the yeah the PowerPoint, you know, or it's in that wall.
00:06:11
Richard
Well, sometimes they have those, like, look, they build it into, like, they build a cabinet around the PowerPoints and you can't actually get in to turn them off.
00:06:11
Ben
One of my daughters...
00:06:14
Ben
Yeah. Yeah. and don't want you touching it.
00:06:17
Richard
Yeah.
00:06:17
Ben
Yeah, they don't want you to.
00:06:17
Richard
No, no.
00:06:18
Ben
Hence, so that's the black dot. and So one of my daughters actually designed a Bravo Charlie Club themed black dot. so
00:06:25
Richard
Oh, nice.
00:06:26
Ben
So that there's a whole new line of merch coming out that no one knew they needed. It'll be hitting the shelves soon, I reckon.
00:06:33
Richard
Yeah, awesome.
00:06:34
Ben
Pictures of you and i on on the TV screens of of hotel rooms.
00:06:35
Richard
yeah
00:06:38
Richard
They should glow in the dark, right, over the points.
00:06:40
Ben
no It kind of defeats the purpose, mate.
00:06:44
Richard
That's all right. Well, then you can put a black dot over the top of that if you really
Defining Sport and Dismissing LinkedIn Messages
00:06:48
Richard
need to. Anyway.
00:06:49
Ben
Oh, God, you're an idiot. yeah Hey, listener feedback, M.M. wrote and he said, that chat about the sports, for me, a sport must involve two things, an element of competition and some level of exertion.
00:07:03
Ben
So I think he's basically saying you should sweat for it to be a sport, which oh as as a natural sweater, like a sport for me is just sitting in my armchair sometimes. So,
00:07:15
Richard
So curling, curling doesn't make the cut.
00:07:18
Ben
well, you probably wouldn't sweat while you're curling, I guess.
00:07:21
Richard
It's in-oriented ice rink, isn't it?
00:07:21
Ben
I don't know.
00:07:23
Richard
So like, yeah, I don't know. But they all dress like, like they're dressed like it's long balls, but it's an ice rink. I don't know. Yeah.
00:07:31
Ben
Yes, yeah i've been I remember being very cold in ice rinks before. But yeah, you can't you can overdress for it too, I'm sure.
00:07:35
Richard
Yeah.
00:07:38
Ben
and
00:07:39
Richard
I'm sure.
00:07:40
Ben
And JT said that she completely agrees with the response timeframes that i i I mentioned around LinkedIn messages in particular. They go straight in the bin. So I'm glad I'm not the only one.
00:07:53
Ben
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
00:07:53
Richard
Yes.
00:07:54
Ben
Yeah. And listeners can continue to leave comments, send us texts, join the inner sanctum. I will be posting a picture of that vacuum cleaner with an LCD screen. The links always will be in the show notes.
Origin of 'Kill Two Birds with One Stone'
00:08:07
Ben
Now, conundrum of the week, mate, what have you got for us?
00:08:12
Richard
So this week's conundrum, what does it mean to kill two birds with one stone?
00:08:19
Richard
Killing two birds with one stone. I like i like that phrase. I've been guilty as charged of you in the past.
00:08:19
Ben
don't know.
00:08:25
Ben
Using it? Well, it it sounds like an Olympic feat. why if if you
00:08:31
Richard
It does a little bit.
00:08:32
Ben
You would definitely win the gold medal if you killed two birds with one stone. But my question to you is, what did the birds do wrong and why are we using stones?
00:08:39
Richard
It's just, I think
00:08:41
Ben
Yes. Hmm.
00:08:43
Richard
it's so old-fashioned, right? was Back from the days when when it was all sticks and stones would break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
00:08:49
Ben
yes
00:08:50
Richard
I don't know. i think harkens back to a simpler time, Ben, when I guess harkens.
00:08:52
Ben
e
00:08:55
Ben
Harkins. Now, there's a word that doesn't get used very often. that so So now, a follow-up question then.
00:08:58
Richard
There we go. it It's the two-for-one. It's the quintessential two-for-one, you know, I think.
00:09:06
Ben
But hang on, I thought a bird in the hand was better than two in the bush. And are those two birds in the bush the ones that got killed by the stone?
00:09:13
Richard
Well, only if you, yeah, could be.
00:09:13
Ben
Like... It's...
00:09:16
Richard
They would have been better off in the hand. Silly birds.
00:09:20
Ben
We'll never know. well That's why it's a conundrum.
00:09:23
Richard
It is.
00:09:23
Ben
So if if anyone can tell us what on earth it means to kill two birds with one stone is.
00:09:24
Richard
Here
00:09:29
Ben
And I get it.
00:09:29
Richard
here we go.
00:09:30
Ben
I get the obvious thing is to say you've taken one shot and got two for the price of one.
00:09:35
Richard
Yeah.
00:09:35
Ben
But it's a strange analogy to get stones and birds and involved.
00:09:38
Richard
It is a strange analogy.
00:09:42
Ben
the Hey, another one...
00:09:43
Richard
It's like troubleshooting, right? Why is it?
00:09:46
Ben
Yes.
00:09:47
Richard
why is it what shouldn it Shouldn't it be called troublesolving or like troubleshooting?
00:09:48
Ben
No. Yes.
00:09:53
Richard
so said like it's quite It's quite violent.
00:09:56
Ben
there should be There should be less ammunition involved when you're solving the yeah the problems with your television.
00:09:59
Richard
Exactly, exactly.
00:10:02
Ben
And it's always television related. Like, have you ever, like, installed a new new television and and it just worked?
00:10:05
Richard
it could could very well be.
00:10:09
Ben
Like, if Apple should invent televisions because, know, they work out of the box, right?
00:10:14
Richard
Who could afford them?
00:10:15
Richard
If that little screen is two grand, Ben, how big is the TV going to cost?
00:10:16
Ben
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. $38,000. Yeah.
00:10:19
Richard
Exactly.
00:10:20
Ben
Oh, fair call. yeah Fair call.
00:10:25
Richard
It'd be really quick though and it'll look great, I'm sure.
00:10:28
Ben
Speaking of quick, we've got a little bit more time for a follow-up conundrum, if I may.
Juggling Multiple Calls on Different Devices
00:10:33
Richard
Yes, let's go.
00:10:34
Ben
this So this this happened. I was talking to a listener and he wasn't listening to a podcast while I was talking to him because that would just be weird. The question was, is it possible to have a call in WhatsApp, so on WhatsApp audio, on Microsoft Teams and and on your standard mobile network all at the same time.
00:10:56
Ben
And the reason he asked is his wife was calling him while he was calling me, and then his boss was calling him.
00:11:09
Ben
And so he sort of hung up from me, and and that the follow-up comes from there, which one the answer, right? like he's he i think he pretty much went straight
00:11:15
Richard
I know. Yeah, yeah. what's What was the but what's the time of day Like, I think it's think this's a time of day thing happening here.
00:11:23
Ben
Yeah, good question.
00:11:24
Richard
Like, so if it's during business hours, you might take the boss one.
00:11:25
Ben
is So we're sort of, yeah, it was 3.30 on a Friday afternoon.
00:11:28
Richard
Do you have to? Or like, yeah.
00:11:31
Ben
Now he works in a different industry.
00:11:32
Richard
Oh, you do not want to take the boss's call at 3.30 on a Friday.
00:11:34
Ben
So that's, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, what do you want? Yeah.
00:11:40
Richard
Exactly. How to ruin your weekend.
00:11:42
Ben
yeah
00:11:42
Richard
Can we get those reports done by Monday?
00:11:43
Ben
so
00:11:46
Ben
Yeah. So, so this is listener BH. I haven't given him the credit yet, but the, so the question is like, he thinks that he could have actually taken a couple of calls. He's on an Android device.
00:11:57
Ben
And he sort of had one on hold and didn't realize and then had to hang up from it. So he thinks that that works. But then the follow-up conundrum is, which which one do you take?
00:12:07
Richard
Which one do you take?
00:12:07
Ben
And, well, i think, yeah i think if look, i'm with all due respect, if I'm talking to you and Tanya rings, you'll, I'll call you back.
00:12:08
Richard
Yeah.
00:12:16
Richard
Yeah.
00:12:19
Ben
Yeah.
00:12:20
Richard
yeah
00:12:23
Ben
I think that's a pretty simple one. And I defy any male to say that that's not the case for them. What about you? Where do you sit?
00:12:34
Richard
Well, I mean, think you i think you can actually take it on a laptop. I think you could you could take all of the calls at once and just turn it into one giant mess pretty easy.
00:12:43
Ben
Yeah, okay.
00:12:47
Ben
Yeah.
00:12:48
Richard
Because I've been on a Slack call and had Teams calls ringing, and I'm pretty sure that you could do both of those at once.
00:12:53
Ben
Yeah, okay.
00:12:54
Richard
Like sometimes you end up, you know, your your schedule ends up getting jammed full of google Some people use Google Meet, then some people will use Slack calls, and we've got Teams internally as well.
00:13:02
Ben
Yeah, true, true.
00:13:06
Richard
so And then there's Zoom. And they've they've all got their own sort of app and channel, right?
00:13:10
Ben
Yeah, I suppose. Yeah.
00:13:11
Richard
So, yeah.
00:13:12
Ben
So they're all like just different devices.
00:13:14
Ben
Yeah, interesting.
00:13:15
Richard
Yeah.
00:13:15
Ben
Yeah, no, you're probably right.
00:13:16
Richard
I'm pretty sure you can have a nonsensical conversation where half the participants can only hear you.
00:13:16
Ben
So...
00:13:19
Ben
Yeah.
00:13:20
Richard
Yeah.
00:13:21
Ben
Yeah. You just just connect them. i In my role, I tend to say the same thing, know, a lot.
00:13:23
Richard
yeah
00:13:26
Ben
So, you know, they should all just listen in and yeah.
00:13:28
Richard
Just record it.
00:13:30
Ben
Yeah. Oh, goodness me. Hey, a Richard, that's it. Listeners have been BCC'd on our week. And in next week's show, we're going to share some great tips for flying long haul.
00:13:42
Ben
So listeners can send in their tips, but we'll be sharing our own as well. See you next week. Bravo, Charlie Club, out.
00:13:49
Richard
And that's the pod.