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Boxing 🥊 Jimmy Adams, Owner/Promoter of Country Box (4/4/26 Interview)
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Boxing 🥊 Jimmy Adams, Owner/Promoter, Country Box (4/4/26 Interview)
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Country Box 40 "Where Music & Boxing Meet" - Plaza Mariachi, Nashville, TN
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Transcript
Introduction and Overview of Country Box 40
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Heavyweight float Championship belt Wrapped around my waist yo I got that Ric Flair faking boat Slam you on the page then that's why they call me Street Pro Create heat on beat float Like Jordan after the second time he
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You came prepared now get ready for the show
00:00:50
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I can't hear Yo, yo, yo. What up, friends? Welcome back, ball and buds. Another episode with our good friend Jimmy Adams at Country Box, owner, promoter. As always, you've seen him here plenty of times on this channel, and we are going to be talking Country Box 40 coming up this Tuesday. Yes, Tuesday, April the 7th at Plaza Mariachi. Going to be a huge card. Jimmy, how are you feeling today, my brother?
00:01:24
Speaker
I'm good, Omar. What about yourself? Ah, I am amazing. Doing well. ah I had a little bit of a stomach bug yesterday, and I'm feeling much better now. So glad we were able to do this interview, even though we had talked about it originally yesterday. So...
00:01:40
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um All right. Well, let's go ahead and kick this off. We first of all, we talked about the, oh, before we even get into that, we do have the card this Tuesday. Everybody for tickets, please go to countrybox247.com.
00:01:56
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dot com There is a banner up at the top here. You can see the website and the Instagram for countrybox247.com. That is where you will want to go get your tickets for next Tuesday's show at Plaza
Exploring the New Venue: Plaza Mariachi
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Mariachi. How are we feeling about the new venue, my brother?
00:02:12
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Man, you know what? I wish I got kicked out of the troubadour earlier. Oh, don't say it. Don't say it. Don't say it. It's a, I don't get me wrong. and I love the people at the troubadour. They were good to me.
00:02:27
Speaker
Uh, they were, they were, they were good to me. And, uh, And I feel like that it was a good fit, why it fit it. and then, you know, for unfortunate things that unseen, ah you know, we was actually two weeks before my next fight was. And so the plasma was very nice and accepted us immediately, you know, I'd have been in trouble about my show.
00:02:54
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ah And so yeah so, you know, it's just, but the plasma is just like it's going, I've got so many comments about it and calls on it from the last fight and said, man, you know what? And, you know show is great, man. Oh my God, it's so much better than all that. And I was talking to the Christian about it. And Christian looked at me and said, we didn't change that, but the venue.
00:03:19
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And I go like, boy, she's right. The venue wouldn' made everybody go to the next level. So he wouldn't, It wasn't a show because the show has been good. you know we do do I'm very proud of our shows you know to do what we've tried to accomplish. you know so But the venue is great. The people have been great to work with over there. At first, you know a lot of people start talking because it is on Nolensville Road.
00:03:44
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At one time, they feel like youre it's a rough area. dis' that and Yeah, it's rough area. It's a round area. But the plasma, they got full security. It's beautiful, lights, great food.
00:03:57
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And all the allli employees there and staff there is just wonderful to work with. Much more professional in so many ways. And so, you know, I'm i'm glad to be there.
00:04:08
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I'm glad to be there. so yeah mean As you mentioned, their their security is very, very good there. I felt very safe when I was there. And as you mentioned, there are there are bad places. as Any town you go to in the world, in America, any country in the world, there's going to be a bad neighborhood anywhere you go. So...
00:04:28
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and Just because just because it's in a it may be in a quote unquote, which is not a bad area anyways to begin with. Does crime happen there? Sure. But crime happens downtown too. Crime happens everywhere, as we mentioned. So um ah do not be scared off at all, people.
00:04:43
Speaker
The parking lots are very safe. The security there is great. It's a huge venue. So there's nothing that would even possibly happen security-wise there anyway. So please do not let that scare you off. It is an amazing time. And as you mentioned, what a huge venue. Spectacular. Yeah, the Troubadour was nice.
00:05:03
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But as Country Box grows, as Country Box continues to expand and get bigger, we have to actually accommodate for Country Box's growth. And that's what Plaza Mariachi does.
00:05:17
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Well, at the Plaza, you know, I mean, every fight at the troubadour, we had to fight
Fighter Highlights and Predictions
00:05:21
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for dressing rooms not being big enough and this and that. And the Plaza, we got so much room that the that the I mean, the dressing rooms are huge and accommodations. It's just so much.
00:05:33
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It's so much better for the time. you know i'm saying? I mean, I mean, the troubadour fit it for what it for a great start. But and then the troubadour is 400 people, 450 people max. You know, you're sold out.
00:05:45
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And here with 1,500 people. So it makes it a big difference, too. So, so yeah have it's you know, it's it's just, you know, you grow. Everything grows in life, you know.
00:05:58
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I mean, every and especially for a company like this, you are hoping that your growth will exponentially happen so that you do move into bigger and bigger venues, right? And as much as we like Plaza Mariachi, and it's amazing now, we are not trying, you are not trying to stop at Plaza Mariachi. You're trying to get you're trying to get the Bridgestone next. Then you're trying to take over Nissan Stadium Then we try to go Madison Square Garden. Then we go to Vegas. Then we go, you know, so, I mean, there's growth that's going to happen with Country Box. And that is very exciting. And again, that that show at Plaza Mariachi, that my first time there as I was gone for the first show. But this was, it was it was a really, really exciting.
00:06:44
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great venue to be in. It was not cramped. It felt spacious. It felt like a real atmosphere for a big time event. Yeah, i agree. I mean, it just, I mean, it was no pressure, you know, like in Troubadour, you had to, if you had to run to the front door for something, you fighting the crowd, getting to... There was no fast movement to get to a short distance.
00:07:11
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At the last one, you got... it It might be a longer distance, but it's open for you to move and get there. and And i like say, not saying... I'm not i'm not saying anything bad against the troubadour.
00:07:22
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They were good to me. And like say... i And i don't I don't mean it being sarcastic when I said it. I wish I'd done it before now. You know, I wish that i started looking for a bigger place and and before it's happened, you know, so...
00:07:37
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But I'm happy. Yeah. Let's just say that a ah ah fire hazard is less likely in the new establishment. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, let's talk about um you did mention about the the the growth, the country box. Let's go ahead and just talk a little bit about the card that you have coming up Tuesday.
00:07:56
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Talk to us about what what are some of the fights you have going on Tuesday? Well, you know, I got the Josh Pappas coming in. He's fighting on the card. you know He's 5-0 with five knockouts, and he's he's going against Rydell Booker, which is a gentleman, and Rydell is not coming to get knocked out, that's for sure.
00:08:16
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And I think, you know, Josh josh might have ah his first loss or his first decision. and I don't think he's going to knock Rydell out at all, you know.
00:08:31
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so yeah so So, you know, but that's a little pressure, too, if somebody as good as Josh is. And Josh's got a great team, got a great management company, great trainer. But Roddell has that experience. He has that experience being able to have some great fighters.
00:08:47
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And he's been able fight as not at the level where Josh he is right now. I mean, he's been able fight bigger than Josh and, you know, champions. I mean, hes it's going to be a good fight. It's going to be interesting, you know. so So I like to see what Graham done.
00:09:03
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And then we got the local here, Jordy Gonzalez was Jordy. You know, um I'm telling you, I look, I made a prediction on a radio station the other day with Jordy that I think in two years, if he moves himself right, if his team moves itself right, I think champion in two weeks, two years, if he fights regular enough. And I mean, cause he's so dedicated.
00:09:28
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I mean, he trains and trains and trains. He's not like some of these fighters, you who wants to train all a sudden their back hurts or leg hurts. the know I'm amazed he's fighting.
00:09:41
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You know, just a couple of months ago, you know, he was he was in his gym training. And from what I understand, some noise started outside the gym or whatever, and he went out there and his two dogs,
00:09:54
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had gotten a dog fight, and Jordy got in the middle of it, and his right arm, man, ate all the pieces. No way. Oh, my God. I didn't mean it i told Ashley when when she told me about was going on, and I bit into the bone, and I said, man, he'd be out for year plus, but he's right back.
00:10:13
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You know, right back, training hard, and and traveling get good training. I mean, he's he's going places. I mean, him and his family, his family backs him and stuff, and They're putting in their due diligence, and they're doing what you've got to do to become a champ or a top-ten contender.
00:10:32
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They're putting their effort into it. That's going to be a good fight. He's going to get tested again. you know Then we've got Brian Pappas coming in from New York. you know Brian Pappas, he's an older fighter, but he's coming to fight. and and then as you i don't know if you've seen it on Instagram social media.
00:10:52
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We got Eric Draper calling him out, you know, which is... Ah, okay. There you go. ah matt young Matt Young, his promoter, and I talked, Matt Graper, Eric's promoter, and, you know, we're going to see if we can do something. we're going I mean, you know... Hey, yeah.
00:11:12
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Yeah, it'll be interesting. So, you know, it's just... um And then we got... those she know Well, how do you say it? She-R. Ciara. Ciara.
00:11:24
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ah you pronounce your name, Ciara? Ciara. Oh, Ciara? Wait, who are we talking about? Ciara Dutri. Ciara Dutri. There you go. Okay. Don't get me wrong.
00:11:37
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I know all about her. like don't know how to pronounce her name. not good pronouncing her name. ah That's okay. Neither am I. That girl can fight. I mean, that girl can fight. She's following her card before. And...
00:11:48
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And um I'm interested to see her fight again. It's been a while since it's been on my card, but but she she's got her hands full from Somalia, ah samoia from ah Brazil. Brazil comes to fight.
00:11:59
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And so she's got a fight on her hand. That's going to be a really good female card, a fight on her card. I'm really looking forward to that one. And so
The Unique Entertainment Experience at Country Box
00:12:08
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And like said, just because I can't pronounce her name does not mean she's not a great fighter because she is. Yeah, no, no, no. a way I'm shocked that of a that other promoters hadn't reached out for her. Maybe they have. She just don't want leave where she's at.
00:12:24
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But she does have a good team behind her also, you know, which is a good team. so So, you know, and then we got other things on the card, other people. so It's a good card. And, and then you know, I couldn't say here, I am about to box it.
00:12:39
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but also I'm about to music. We got, we got kiss Moody and boy, that, that boy can jam. He's talented.
00:12:50
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I don't know if you watched it. Well, you got the last show. Kiss is a guy who took in um Sunday, Nash Hampton that, and I got so many comments on having him. I mean, who's that guy who's Sunday, Nash Hampton? Well,
00:13:03
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He's going to do the show this time. He's he's he's playing the show. And he's a heck of an entertainer. And that's what I try to do is bring the music and the boxing together. That's right. You know, it's just like no different than in then music and NASCAR, you know, racing and country music. So the only thing is I'm doing boxing instead of NASCAR. That's all.
00:13:24
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Yeah, and I mean, that's what makes country box such an experience, such a spectacle, such a you know a place to be, an event that people want to be at, is the fact that not only is it just the sport of boxing, the sweet science, which we all would love to watch on a normal evening by itself, but then you throw in some of these great musicians that you've got coming in there, a lot of them up and coming like really good musicians, some good veterans. We got a nice mix of musicians and entertainers that you have brought in to entertain the crowd and make it more than just a sporting event, but a sporting event and a concert when put together is, you know, this huge experience spectacle that we love to do.
00:14:15
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Yeah. Yeah. What I'm trying i'm trying to do is, um, it's like they just mix the two, you know, because that way people, and it's really funny because, well, I'm not going to say it's funny. It's it's interesting.
00:14:30
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Because what happened is you got, you know, in regular boxing match, you know, people go, you know, here comes a fight, walk down, just getting ready for next fight. People run to the bathroom, like an intermission, whatever, would like it's intermission. Then they got an intermission. I don't do an intermission.
00:14:47
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It's so
Inclusivity and Vision for Country Box
00:14:48
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interesting because, The people who don't like the boxing, that's when they go the bathroom or concession and vice versa. You sit there and you can watch you know, and it's, but the main thing is eyeballs stay there all the time, but it goes, I don't call myself, I don't call it a boxing match. I just call it an event. now' An event. hit just event So, you know, and so, and so it's an event that, um, that I'm, I'm proud of, ah
00:15:18
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It's the fact that to today's nobody has the opportunity to become tomorrow somebody. ah i think going through my platform, they get opportunity and they're not going get nowhere else except for, especially on fight side. On the fight side, they do they get opportunity, you know, going in a square circle and, you know, fight your ass off. if If you win, you get another shot. If you lose, go back home and, well, you know, head be tucked between your tail, you know. Mm-hmm.
00:15:47
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I do also, if you lose, I do bring them back. And that's one thing I taught i was taught by Don King. Don was the only promoter back in the day that if you lost, unless you have a big name, if you lost, he'd give you another opportunity.
00:16:00
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He would give you tried two or three, four opportunities, changes to finally win. And, you know, and some them people he gave final change to win was one of my fighters with Oliver McCall.
00:16:12
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You know, Oliver's against Buster Douglas. He lost against Tony Tucker before it became champion, before he knocked out Linda Sewell. So if it wasn't for Don King, everybody, we go you know, and then they still do that today. I've noticed when somebody loses like next, okay.
00:16:27
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I was such a such beat, but you know what? There's the sayings that sometimes this, because I beat you tonight don't mean I can beat you again tomorrow night. Cause you might come more quick.
00:16:39
Speaker
And I think that's very competitive side of boxing. That's interesting. I think it's such an interesting and, and you know, um, yeah I got to like what I'm doing because, you know, this boxing pushed me through hell. You know, going to be retired and sit back on the pond and just watching a fish jump. But, you know.
00:16:58
Speaker
Well, i mean, ne look, it keeps you active. It keeps you engaged. And look, you
Impact of Jake Paul on Boxing
00:17:03
Speaker
love to do it because you have been doing this your whole life and you have been integrated into the sport of boxing where you are able to leverage, ah you know, your brand.
00:17:15
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And your name value and all these other things that ah allow you to grow country box at the rate that you're growing. And yet people do want to come back and fight and people do want to come back and perform. Kish Moody has been here before. Salute to him for his new album, Echo on the Oprah Road, um which I'm sure he'll be performing some there. But the boxers like to come back.
00:17:37
Speaker
i've seen I was there for Popper's first fight. I'm excited to see my brother there again. This time, i was able to interview him after his 1-0, so I'm excited to see him now. I've seen Rydell Booker fight multiple times for country box. And you're right, he is no slouch, and he is going to he is he is not an easy out by any means. And is going to make Popper put up a tough fight. But as you mentioned, this is because people enjoy it.
00:18:03
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People come back, not just the fans, but the boxers, the entertainers, because it is a place that people want to be associated with. um And so when you look at that, when you look at the experience and spectacle that Country Box provides in the scene of Nashville, right, if you're asking me, I would say it's it's up there you know in the preeminent sports. Obviously, you've got the Titans and the Preds, and then you've got the soccer team. But you know aside from those major sports,
00:18:32
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Country Box is the Nashville thing. And so you've got other burgeoning associations ah like Team Combat League or now rebranded Team Boxing League.
00:18:45
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How do you feel about these other organizations that are trying to establish themselves? And also, what do you know about that rebrand that happened there? Well, you know,
00:18:58
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I personally don't try to criticize anything that anybody tries to do that they, that might be a dream of theirs or whatever, you know? ah I wish him no matter who it is or what it I wish him well.
00:19:10
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I don't try to get all these pissing contests and stuff, you know, because ah Don King, over the years, Don King should tell me all the time about certain things. And he was, that might irritate me or something in the fight game. And he would always tell me, he says,
00:19:25
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You know, Brother Jim, he says, you always have to back up and look at what you're fighting and what you're talking about. If you're going to fight somebody and win nothing, then why are you fighting?
00:19:37
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And that stuck with me for years. no you fight to You fight to win. You don't fight just to fight. you know And so, I mean, i i mean like team combat lead under which got changed, now the team boxing.
00:19:52
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um Do I personally like it? No. i don't I don't think it's real boxing. I mean, you you got guys. I mean, you know what? If you want to see guys fight out here three minutes for one round, then start a street fighting team.
00:20:08
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You know what I'm saying? yeah, because ah you do a guys like the guys train to put eight rounds, ten rounds in one round.
00:20:19
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Right. And then, you know, I've i've seen it last year when when I had some fighters involved with it is I've seen the way that I've seen more eyes eyes glued and all together and one in one fight.
00:20:35
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And then I did in one fight and I did ah in um a whole oh three years of country box. Mm-hmm. you know, one thing, one out and one night I see more eyes and stuff. And I mean, you know, and it just, uh, but you know, it works and that's what he wants to do.
00:20:55
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But the only thing I don't like about stuff like that is don't compare it to real boxing.
00:21:03
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That's, that's what gets me, you know? And I think that's where it might be where it, uh, as you and I was talking off earlier, you got saying when people talk about their legends and stuff, um I mean, I'm, I'm still one of the guys around that knew these legends. I'm, I knew Ali. I knew Frazier.
00:21:25
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I knew Ken Norton. Joe Frazier's come to my house in Virginia. And I live back there and spend a weekend, you know, and, and, and stuff. And Ken Norton, I went to California. I used to work with Ken Norton, you know, the security with him and,
00:21:38
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got to become great friends with Ken Norton, the Richard Giacchetti, you know, Emmanuel Stewart. I mean, Richie, I mean, Fudge, Eddie Fudge. I mean, the Johnny Tyco that used to own the Tyco gym that managed Sonny Lipson. I mean, Joe Louis before he died. I mean, knew I ain't never seen Joe Louis fight.
00:21:58
Speaker
But when he was a host at Caesar's Palace, I, I don't, when I go to Vegas, I stayed down in the lobby with him, listening to his stories, talking about Marsha. And I mean, you know what I'm saying?
00:22:11
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So I was around people that, I mean, I knew these people, I met them and stuff. So when you hear some of those tales and stuff you hear today, you sit back you go and think yourself, okay, man, you know what? it's You really didn't know. You just go about somebody where somebody told you.
00:22:31
Speaker
Boxing is really a small circle. It's really a small circle, you know, and it's just... And there's a lot of great people was in boxing, a lot of great people that love boxing with a passion. And it was, I mean, even though it's always been about money, but it always had a lot of principle to it too. ah It was about also, let's keep the definition of boxing real.
00:22:55
Speaker
Let's protect what the legends built. Let's protect ah Ali and Frazier, Ali and Foreman. I mean, let's protect all of that you know and but i i don't think they have that in mind today they don't if they do they don't project it and and if they don't project it to me somebody been in the game 50 years how you going to project that to a newcomer see what i'm saying and so so you know it's just like uh i just I just think people to feel like some of these leagues, would for them to be successful, they feel like they they got smash real boxing.
00:23:30
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no We talked about this before. You take Jay Paul.
00:23:36
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Jay Paul manned up and fight Joshua. I mean, he manned up until he did that. It was real fight. It was a real fight. And you know what? But then again, he didn't just take a fight.
00:23:48
Speaker
He went fought one of the best heavyweight champions we had. that's That's very true. Yep. So it ain't like just stepped up, you know. So, man, you know what? ah From day one, I took my hat off to Jake Paul for marketing. He's a marketing genius. Oh, yeah. it's a No doubt. No doubt. i got this be a Him and his brother, him and Logan.
00:24:07
Speaker
Mark. and when they they set the sight on something, it's balls to the wall. And I admire that. admire that. And like I say, I have to step back and say that when Jake got in the ring with Joshua and he know he took that ass with him like a man.
00:24:21
Speaker
He sure did. He did. He admitted what happened and admitted, man, you know, I mean, listen that i'd buy now I would go i would go see Jake Paul fight. i but After that fight, i always admire him for his marketing skills and what he can do.
00:24:37
Speaker
But after that, man, I would pay for a ticket to watch Jake Paul fight now. So before that, you considered him more of what we what I would kind of think of when you compare Team Boxing League to real boxing, more of like a sideshow kind of thing.
00:24:53
Speaker
Whereas now, after he took a real fight against one of the best heavyweights in the world, now you you consider him to be an actual boxer boxer.
00:25:05
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he's a I consider him that. Or at least trying. At least trying. I consider him not to be a wannabe fighter. Okay. Not a wannabe fighter anymore. There you go. Okay. Yeah. he he would he would ah He would put in the work and take the gamble to win. I mean, yeah yeah he got heart.
00:25:26
Speaker
you got mean I got a lot of respect for him after that. I really did. i think of off the whole world did. I think the whole world is You know, it's like, Uh, that was, that took a lot. And like say, he he could have picked anybody, you know, everybody, every time you talk to anybody about anything fighting, no matter what weight division, I want Jay Paul.
00:25:45
Speaker
I want Jay Paul, you know, because they know Jay Paul brings the money, brings the money. Right. Oh, you're going get paid. And that's what i' say. That's why I say it's a great marketing scheme. But then again, when got to put the skill up in there and, you know, and there's some people, you know, that said that Jay Paul backed down from him because, um,
00:26:03
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because you know he didn't want to fight him. and listen ja paul well he He also was trying to fight Gervonta Davis, who was much smaller than him beforehand. and A lot of people were getting on him for that, too.
00:26:13
Speaker
Yeah, yeah that he got you that really hurt. you know but But then again, and look what he'd done. He went from a very smaller guy to a very big guy. That's true. That's very true. yeah and He stopped everybody's mouth for that. That's why im admire him so much with that today.
00:26:25
Speaker
And like say, i mean I never talk trash about him. you know, because he he's been good. He's been good for the sport. And he's been. That's what I was going ask you. Okay. Excellent.
00:26:36
Speaker
Excellent for the women's sport. womens i know yeah dad For women's boxing, especially I'm, I'm Puerto Rican. So Amanda Serrano is yeah one of my favorites. And what he does for her and the other women fighters. In that company, um you know, I've I've always said has been has been a good thing. I've extolled those virtues of what he brought to women's boxing. Now, how he goes about it. Yes, he's a marketing genius. You can say he exploits other things, manipulates whatever day. Look, business is a we live in a capitalist society and business is dirty sometimes. And sometimes you got to get your hands dirty and sometimes you got to be more underhanded than the next person in order to get things done in business. Am I saying that's right? No, not at all. But am I saying that Jake Paul is willing to do those things over most people? Yes, that is what I am saying. So ah some people, though, and I've heard this on a boxing shows that I watch a lot, would say that they take the opposite side and say that he's not good.
00:27:38
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for ah boxing because of how he made it a sideshow before this last fight. I mean, taking us aside the Joshua stuff. um And also some people have said that they question whether they would want to put their daughters in into his promotional company, um even with what he's done for women fighting, because they feel like he may be exploiting the women, obviously for his game. What what would you say to those people?
00:28:08
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Well, I would say i'd say you got stop and look at it. ah he he He profits nothing by distorting them. Nothing. Because the girls going to fight somewhere but don't fight for Jake Paul. They're going to fight.
00:28:20
Speaker
That's true. so That's very true. It ain't like he's out here soliciting and saying, want to turn you to a pro fighter. I want to show you how I did this. I want to show you how i can market you to make people buy you He's not doing it.
00:28:33
Speaker
He is signing girls that wants to fight and is already fighting. he is bringing ah To me, he's bringing together a unit that's shooting a girl the women's money up, which is good.
00:28:45
Speaker
They're getting paid. And he's bringing and um was I would have to be honest, he's bringing more of recognition to boxing. Everybody's got to give credit to Christy Martin.
00:28:57
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You've got to give credit to Christy Martin. She bought women's money. Yeah, so you've got to understand. But he's bringing more credit than Christy Martin brought. um Making people now look at Christian Martin and what she really is today is a past 10th female champion.
00:29:13
Speaker
and But just it's just paving the road. I mean, he instead of just one woman coming up trying to pay the road, that runs into Ali or a couple of the girls. well Now, mean he's got what?
00:29:26
Speaker
16 fighters. I mean, he's got a lot of he like a lot of fighters. He got a slew in by every girl who's fighting today. He wants to go over there. I mean, you know, because he tastes, he's good to him. He's fair. So, so I don't know why of the people can even say that about him because, because he profits more by being good to him and protecting them, which I think that's what he's doing with the girls.
00:29:47
Speaker
Okay, so you believe that you believe that he's actually, he's not necessarily exploiting them or manipulating or leveraging them in a bad way. He is more marketing, which we both set we both admitted to. He's a marketing genius. He's using his marketing skills in order to boost
Business and Legacy in Boxing
00:30:05
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the profile of these women in order to get higher profile fights, more money, stuff like that.
00:30:11
Speaker
Yeah, and that's that a mess what's happening. Call one of these girls he's got now and ask him how much he wants for a fight. m might li bit but any girl now any any girl fighting now it's all the money went up i mean i all i'm going to achieve and like it's like i say if he was a little girl if he was calling a female down the street and says hey you know you're a beautiful girl and you look good and people pay to see you get knocked out or see you do this yeah that's not what he's doing right he's picking fighters that's i mean
00:30:43
Speaker
That are really good fighters, right? Yeah. Good fighters. And, and they're calling him. They're trying to reach out to him to get on there. And like say, so I don't want that misconstrued because, uh, because of a pass or something, but I'm not down in Christian Martin. Christian Martin was wonderful. I mean, I'm just saying time has changed.
00:31:04
Speaker
Time in the generation change. Chris is older than now. I mean, she's older and a lot of people now is in box. Now don't even know who Chris Martin is. I mean, You know, and you can tell that by the way, the the the movie went in a splash. You know, the movie was, I mean, Christian Martin's story. I mean, so it's a great story. And, you know, she's a great person and all this, you know, but same token, you got to look at the business side of it too.
00:31:30
Speaker
You know, that's what you have to do. but Yeah, I mean, Christy Martin was one of the greatest world champions of all time. um But you're right. The movie didn't do as well because that was 30 years ago.
00:31:41
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And a lot of people now, especially, you know, Sidney Sweeney fans, may not even know who she is because they're probably, you know, 20 years old. So that's my point. That's actually my point. It's not that the story is not a great story because it is.
00:31:54
Speaker
It ain't because Christy is not a great lady because she is. It ain't that she didn't bring a lot to boxing because she did. know what saying? It's just like, you know, the movie and situation was, it's just like, it's just like 30 years ago.
00:32:11
Speaker
And, you know, That was a long time ago. A lot of people that, and especially again, people that like Sydney Sweeney, who was the actress that played Christy Martin in the movie. Most of her fans are 20, 20, 20 years old, 25 or less. They weren't even alive when Christy Martin was fighting. And again, that doesn't take anything away from Christy Martin. We both love her, but you got, I mean, even people like Tyson, Tyson fought on Netflix for what? To try to stay relevant, to try to keep money in the pocket because he was 30 years ago too Yeah. exactly
00:32:43
Speaker
And that that's why he didn't get the effect, you know, because I mean, really when Tyson fought Jay Paul, I don't think it was Tyson much. It was Jay Paul that pulled the crowd. I mean, like say, Jay Paul just no matter where he goes, he's he sells. I mean, he he's got so many gimmicks in life.
00:33:00
Speaker
And if he ain't got a gimmick for tomorrow, he's going to find one before tomorrow. Make it. yeah Yeah. He just I mean, like say, I'm mine for that. ah do I really do. That's why we should come over here with a country box and because he would take it and make it a lot quicker than made it.
00:33:16
Speaker
you know Hey, Jake Paul, we're calling you right now, brother. Come on now. Come on, Jake. Let's talk. come to Come to Nashville. Come hang out with us for a few days. We'll show you a good time. We'll get you the next country box event. you know Come on out and help us out here. no um But I'm truly – I was not a fan of Jake Paul's until now. I am a fan.
00:33:37
Speaker
So more respect for him. then I don't think I'm the only one. I think a lot of people who thought that – and then again, you got to understand, if jay paul got a lucky because you know was said that what happened is he had a punches change uh he had he had a punches uh he had a punches change to getting joshua you know i'm saying so the way i was looking at it i was thinking about it you know okay and Well, if he was to caught Joshua one the right hands and got knocked out, everybody's going to say Joshua took a dive. yeah That is what they would have said. A lot of money.
00:34:13
Speaker
but it But, you know, it showed it showed there was no dive money there. There was no game there. Jake Paul went in and the win, and Joshua ended went in and win. It was up fight.
00:34:24
Speaker
And i thought I think they bring up i brought a lot of legitimacy to two Jake Paul and what he's kind trying to accomplish. Because like now, I mean, when I'm understanding what I'm seeing and what I heard and read and stuff, you know, Jake, it ain't about the money with Jake.
00:34:39
Speaker
Jake got all the money he's ever going need. I mean, yeah it's about the love of it. It's the love of boxing and love of what he does, love of marketing. And maybe he'll wake up one day and say, hey, I'm done. I'm going do nothing. And he just sat on his ass and not do nothing. But he can afford to do that now. I mean, so like say, you you got to admire somebody like that. You got to admire somebody. I because he went against all grain. Everybody called him every name in the book.
00:35:06
Speaker
Everybody said it was fake this and fake that. no But you know what? He stayed true to his himself. He laughed in the face and he kept on going. And and and he proved his point.
00:35:16
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And like to me, can you ask me, Jay Paul a boxer? Yes, he is. He proved that. You can't not be boxer. No, go ahead. You cannot be a boxer and get in the ring of Anthony Joshua. Yeah.
00:35:29
Speaker
Yeah, that's what exactly that's what exactly what I was just going to say. but Before, as you mentioned, right I was kind of one of those people that was skeptical. But as you just said, and that's exactly what I was just going to say, once you get in the ring with a fighter like that and you put your life on the line, um you know you get respect for that no matter what.
00:35:48
Speaker
And I really got to say this here. If Jake Paul was listening anywhere at all, I got to you this, Jake. It was one of the most classiest acts in my 50 years of being in boxing.
00:36:00
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when he went down and looked up at ah Josh and goes, it's just like, he's going like, fuck, that hurt. yeah The look on his face. his face huh That's one of the most, I'm going to tell you, I have to say, that's one and that's one moment stuck to me, the way he looked.
00:36:22
Speaker
I mean, ain't like, oh but he smiled about it. I mean, it ain't like you know any other fight out, because I've seen so many people go down like that. yeah and But not Jake went down to knee, but then he looked at oh, fuck, man. you he said He said, holy shit, this guy broke my jaw. Yeah, and and and looked him like, hey, you done good. you know yeah i think that's one of the biggest moments in my life of watching any fight live or television or whatever. okay I mean, it just...
00:36:54
Speaker
Like said, got a lot of respect for Jake. I do. And I didn't have, but thats the man's smart. he's And I wish him well because I'm sure he ain't done. Whatever he's going to do, he ain't done. He's too young and he's got too much going on. And, and and you know, from what I've never met him, but from what on I'm hearing, man, he's he's a cool guy. he and know And, I mean, you know, ah and I know he's good to people.
00:37:18
Speaker
So I just wish him well. Hey, Jake, you have an open invitation to come join us at Country Box. I know Oliver said he wanted to fight you a couple years ago. so you know It's another time. or Oliver still wants to. I just talked to Oliver. Let's go, Jake. Come on, baby. I like to fight i like to fight Jake Powell. But you know what? You've got to understand that some of the people I hear that want to fight Jake Powell is – It's about the money you fight. Yeah, of course you get paid.
00:37:51
Speaker
so So anybody was, and you know, it just unlike what, you know, um um but, but then again, but Jake Paul is not Florida Mayweather's age. you know what saying? But like all this stuff going on now with Mayweather and Pacquiao and I mean, man, it's just, I mean, you see, you Floyd, Floyd's got that,
00:38:09
Speaker
I mean, I just read the story, you know, that inherited, he got all his money from Netflix already. And now he wants to fight into an exhibition. And I have talked to many people and and many people want to fight. They don't want an exhibition.
00:38:23
Speaker
me And so, but you know, but Florida, I think Florida's smart yeah a little bit, but I don't think he should turn to a Conway. You he should not start conning or outsmarting. don't want to say conning. That's not the right thing. Let me just say he shouldn't have to try to outsmart nobody.
00:38:43
Speaker
If you're going to fight, stand up and man fight. You know, if you put that o on the line, if you don't want they want to take the chance losing that O, then don't fight nobody. I mean, I don't think he's going You know, because Floyd likes to, as we say in the old days, walk the room. And I guess they might still say it today. I don't know. But Floyd... Flo likes to work the room and you got, you got people, you get all these stories come out and that he needs the money. And then he flashed and all his money, but you go, you got to understand what people don't understand.
00:39:13
Speaker
And especially in this business, not just boxing, but entertainment or any kind of successful entrepreneurship business type, you might make a million dollars a month and that's a lot of money.
00:39:25
Speaker
But if your overhead is a million four, no he writes right? Right. Thousand a month. Yeah. People, and I laughed about it so many times because get to think about Don King used to tell me all the time, he said, man, he said, brother Jim, don't ever get that money disease.
00:39:44
Speaker
And I said, Don, what's the money disease? He said, money disease is when you count somebody else's money and it's not yours. Oh.
00:39:56
Speaker
Right. Yeah. I mean, look. As you mentioned, Floyd, Jake, Paul, none of these people are, are well, they shouldn't be at least, ah you know, hurting for money per se. But as you mentioned, once you start spending more and more money, as you get more and more money, sometimes you can outspend your your your earnings.
00:40:18
Speaker
Well, the time
Regulatory Acts in Boxing: Ali Act and Revival Act
00:40:19
Speaker
catches you. know what saying? When you got a bunch of money coming in at one time, you look at him, oh man, I got this, I can afford this. And then you realize, well, okay, well, wait minute, this cost me more and what I expected. This is taking longer than what I expected.
00:40:32
Speaker
And even though you can still be riding around in nice cars and live in a nice home, but then bills don't stop, taxes don't stop, light bill don't stop. I mean, the overhead, and yeah know so you have to look at what all that is. It don't it don't stop.
00:40:48
Speaker
And so if you ain't got the income coming in and then I type business, you get paid by event. And there was, you go ahead, like even when I was managing fighters, I mean, i so I got paid three times a year because sometimes we just fought three times a year.
00:41:03
Speaker
Right. And three times a year, that's what you had to base yourself on. And sometimes you go a year, you know, and I, and I type business, but, but, um, you send by like Jay Paul, where he's at now,
00:41:16
Speaker
and and I hope he stays smart, business smart. I hope he don't ever lose it. I hope Floyd, listen, i hate to see where Floyd's coming in and all the braggadoces stuff about being so rich and the man man money man.
00:41:31
Speaker
I mean, I hope it lasts, but you got to understand. hope he understands too. No matter how much you got, it might cost you more to sustain. And that's what I think might have done called Floyd But he should have enough assets because I read a couple of things just yesterday that couple of buildings got foreclosed. Is it true? I don't know.
00:41:53
Speaker
I mean, you because it's fake news too. I don't know, but I know that I've seen things too that Floyd's took care of his daddy and he's, you know, I mean, took care of his brother and his uncle. I mean, you know, his mama. I mean, you know, it's just ah there's a lot of good in Florida.
00:42:10
Speaker
there's a lot of good in Florida. And so I think, I think sometimes we get trash when we don't mean things to go bad and they don't want to trash us, you know, because things just mistakes just happen or unforeseen situation pops up on you out in the middle of it.
00:42:28
Speaker
But for today, They'd rather a look and point at you and say, you're a crook, you're a kind, you're a liar, and just say, hey, i just hit a ditch like you did, but just on different level. That's all.
00:42:41
Speaker
energy And you mentioned that. I want to ask you about that because when you mentioned earlier that the exhibition part of this fight, right? Floyd and Manny were scheduled to have this fight. And Floyd, as we know, has been looking more for exhibitions. He's been doing this in Japan and other places. And he'd been looking to just make money off of his you know boxing brand that he's built. not necessarily the fighting.
00:43:10
Speaker
And so Oscar De La Hoya, who you also mentioned, came out just yesterday on video and was calling Floyd out for that exact thing that you just mentioned, which was that it was supposed to be about an exhibition. He was saying Floyd didn't want to lose his is zero.
00:43:25
Speaker
But at this point, a is Oscar the right messenger considering everything that he's been through? And B, um are we should we really be expecting Floyd to want to actually have competitive fights at the extended age that he's at?
00:43:41
Speaker
Well, you know, i have to say, just like – um I think people who buy a Floyd exhibition are people just diehard fans of Floyd.
00:43:53
Speaker
Or got the right type sponsor or whatever. And ah ah his age, I much rather see him do these exhibitions and make this almost the same amount of money.
00:44:04
Speaker
Right. And they're out of fighting. You know, because he's a legend. He is a legend. He left a good mark on boxing. And that owe to him means a whole lot. And no matter if he fought Manny right now in a real fight, do I think that Florida beat Manny again? No, I think Manny will win.
00:44:25
Speaker
Then he's 50, 50 and one. And so I think that would devalue the value of Florida's reputation of who he is. Right. I mean, show that you can retire, you can fight 50 fights and retired champion and rich.
00:44:39
Speaker
But then you show, okay, you retired champion and rich. but you show you can spin yourself down and retire and end up going broke and have nothing. and I think I'd rather see Floyd stay away from that if he can, you know. yeah but But I don't know, man. You just like but the exhibition, I'm not a fan of exhibitions. I never have been. Well, Manny's been a lot more active too, though, because he's actually had some fights the past few years, like real legit fights too, so title fights.
00:45:12
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um You're right. i think I think just because of inactivity and just not having real fights, that Pacquiao would probably. You know what? it means a lot It means a lot to Manny to get that win back.
00:45:25
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Yes.
Promoter-Fighter Dynamics and Industry Challenges
00:45:26
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Right. and I think for that reason, Manny put more into it than Floyd will. co I'm not sure if Floyd still trains and all. He don't train like he used to.
00:45:36
Speaker
Right. vs and this net you know he Because, you know, he's been able to showboat who he is. He's able to get in the ring, you know, and keep his feet, watch his help. I mean, he's he's done a great job.
00:45:48
Speaker
and But I think Floyd is smart enough. I would think he's smart enough to know then that if what they're saying about him now, and that he's trying to con that flick and save them to me and sign the contract and out there then goes the exhibit turns the rules around i think he if he if he done that like i said you can't believe everything you read if he done that he just done it for the money and then realize well wait a minute i got too much to lose let me back up so i'll do this i mean and and i remember think that's what is it is i mean you know you're in the boxing scene you've got so many people
00:46:27
Speaker
They want to talk junk. You know, it's like, like what you made a comment just few minutes by Oscar del Ahoy. Well, you know, you got to understand Oscar del Ahoy brought a lot of history to boxing too.
00:46:39
Speaker
Mm-hmm. The golden boy. I mean, listen, Oscar was a big, a big, he's a legend in his own right also. Now, one thing I think that Oscar's done is every mistake he's made, Oscar's owned it.
00:46:55
Speaker
Oscar ain't going to hand pointing finger at somebody else. He ain't trying to say, hey, yeah, I've done it. Yeah, you know, I mean, and and I think, you know, if you look at no matter who you look at in the world today, everybody got some kind of closet.
00:47:08
Speaker
I think on some things, Oscar just got caught, or a lot of people don't get killed don'll get caught. Right. I mean, and but then again, you know, all the all the stuff going back and forth with, you know,
00:47:22
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all the going back and forth, and you know, with Eddie Hearns and and Dana White, and I mean, you know, what and it's so much stuff that's just not fair for the fighters themselves.
00:47:37
Speaker
Because these promoters and stuff are trying to fight each other. All they're doing is making it harder for the fighters. By trying to change Aliak, the Aliak protected the fighters.
00:47:49
Speaker
So anytime do you want to go take something apart, rearrange it for your benefit, you ain't got the fighters in consideration because it was meve it was made to protect the fighters, opening book for the fighters, not to be screwed in some cases they were accused of, you know, being screwed by this that.
00:48:12
Speaker
And to start taking that back away, it makes you question the person trying to take it. I mean, common sense, it should. Why do you need to change it if you ain't got something to hide? Why you got to change this here if you don't want to hide what you're going to do wrong against the fighter?
00:48:29
Speaker
Because in the end of the time, the end of the business deal you're going to do there, it is against the fighter. It's not against the promoter. It's against the fighter. And I think what're instead of saying, and I think some the things that maybe you Oscar De La Hosea, I know Roy Jones Jr. made comments about He's against it. But you got to understand, they were fighters.
00:48:51
Speaker
They were former champions. They know what can go wrong. They know what can be hidden. Right. You know, I'm not sure if Dana White was over a boxer in his life. don't know.
00:49:02
Speaker
He fights in the streets. I mean, i know. And he knows how to talk. i mean, he's got a mouth on him. Sure. And he knows how to talk. He knows how to promote. I don't think he's good at promoting Jake Paul by any means, but he knows how to run a mouse. and And then he's got what money he's got.
00:49:19
Speaker
He's got more money behind him on the sobriety regular. know saying? So, you know, so I mean, he's ah i mean I think with Dana, more money's talking than he is looking at the real fighters. But then again, no matter what he's done with USC, and you definitely got take your out hat off of him with USC.
00:49:37
Speaker
m Everyone in fighters complained about him. And all I, look, Dana is the type guy you can't help but like, I mean, he's just a character. He's a character. And all the people we talk about today, they're all the characters. I mean, Oscar, he's a character. Oscar, slap back Thursday. I mean, I think it's a funny, I mean, I mean, you know, I love watching his Thursday slap back, you know, because it's, it's funny.
00:50:03
Speaker
but but then again he owns whatever you throw at it if it's true he owns it that's one thing he don't run from it he don't try to cover it up you know when questions asking about the stockings and all he he can listen but then again you got to ask yourself how is call it um he caught taking call uh i mean he calls it out and umm i'm very very very uh
00:50:32
Speaker
Franklin, he's that honest. you know That's why, like I say, he's somebody else. Punch your box is calling me. Hell, I'm calling anybody. Anybody come. Hey, let's go. Let me ask you more about the Muhammad Ali Act, though, because as you mentioned, um Dana White, very good friends with President Donald Trump. This bill passed by a voice vote is supposed to go into the Senate. They're trying to obviously revive revive is what's called the revival of the Reform Act. The Reform Act, for everybody that doesn't know, just to update you in case you're watching, wondering what we're talking about. Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act was enacted in 2000.
00:51:13
Speaker
Essentially had three main priorities, protect the rights and welfares of boxers, assist state boxing commissions in their oversight, and promote honorable competition in boxing. So admirable traits indeed and things that you would be looking at. So what is the Revival Act and why has this been brought The Revival Act proposed by Brian Jack and Sharice Davids, one Republican, one Democrat, in July of 2025, would allow for the creation. And this goes back to what Jimmy was talking about, about Turkey Alice Sheik coming into boxing, and also Dana White, and how they also also did the Ziffel boxing, and all of these different organizations starting to emerge. This would allow for a unified boxing organization, which would serve as an alternative to the four major ah you know organizations we have right now, which would allow TKO's new boxing companies to emerge and to gain more weight into the sport, which can be looked at as maybe a little bit of that
00:52:17
Speaker
underhandedness that we talked about, the kind of, you know, you maybe using manipulation in other ways in order to gain the things that you're trying to gain. And we know that Dana White and Turkey Al-Achik and TKO have put a lot into trying to change things. the combat sports, even when it comes to UFC, as you talked about, and trying to hold fighters paid down. So in this Revival Act, they say that the minimum compensation for professional boxers would go up to $200 per round. And there would be other types of minimums in health insurance, things like that, that say that this is going to be more beneficial for boxing. So um I know you already said you don't really agree with
00:53:00
Speaker
the ah the revival of the act itself, what do you say to to those last facts that would be enacted? Well, you know, if you pay the fighters right and they build and get the right money for what the boxing has paid over the years that Bob Arum has paid them and and, you know, back in the time, I mean, like now, it's tight money that, I mean, look at Anthony Joshua. He walked away with Jay Paul. One fight, what, $98 million?
00:53:25
Speaker
Yeah, it was crazy. So he can't afford his own insurance? Mm-hmm. Right. That's true. i mean you sure know and And we want the money. So why are you going to cut money down and trust you? What do you ever do? Pay your insurance yourself or trust me to pay your insurance for you?
00:53:41
Speaker
m Now, what about but what about when you extend that to boxers that don't make that money, that aren't on that level, that, ah you know, fight maybe here at Country Box and can't afford, um you know, insurance? What would you say to those those fighters?
00:53:56
Speaker
Well, listen, I think anything could be changed, but you've got to understand the way they're changing it right now, the upgrade it is right now, it profits Dana White and profits. It's not by profiting the fighter.
00:54:09
Speaker
It's not. In other words, how are they going get the extra money to pay for that? They cut the fighter's purse. So if you're going to cut the fighter's purse, mean, Why not let them pay for the cell?
00:54:22
Speaker
Now do agree that some of the smaller fighters that don't really make good money and then get hurt and this net. Absolutely. As a Joe McClellan and stuff. Absolutely.
Country Box Philosophy and Event Promotion
00:54:32
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Because Joe McClellan prime example, mean, he was champion and Nigel Ben.
00:54:36
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You know, in that fight with Nigel Benn, know, he got brain damage and he struggles every month. But he got a lovely sister that took care of him. ah But it's a fight. It's a fight because, you know, insurance money runs out.
00:54:52
Speaker
But in insurance money will run out with Dana White, what he's doing also. There's always going to be a cap on anything. Life has a cap on it. So um' I'm just saying what's happened is Dana White is taking the money out of the promoter, a Turkish, or his own money.
00:55:08
Speaker
But they talk about taking that money from the fighters. How are they taking it? They're taking it from the fighters' purse. They're capped the fighters' purse. And let me use your money to ban you some insurance. want to be a good guy. Let me get you some insurance.
00:55:20
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and and and you're right about one thing. It does seem also kind of controversial that it's coming from Dana White and them who have held UFC salaries down for a long time.
00:55:33
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And they all complain about it. Every big UFC fighter out there, somewhere way along the line, whether they take it back or what, has complained. ask her From Conor McGregor, from Ronda Rousey, all of them has complained about it.
00:55:49
Speaker
All of them. Even his biggest moneymaker has complained. So what's going to make it different now? but and why we And why would you, as Dana White, want to take care of boxers before you take care of your own fighters?
00:56:03
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And you got to understand it. Ronda Rousey said it herself. Dana's an employee now. Dana.unic. And so Dana wouldn't do that when he owned the thing himself with the brothers.
00:56:18
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Why is he going to do it when he's just an employer of somebody? He don't have to last say something. That's a really good point. He just run in front for them. and totally it so yeah What what's happened is is back in the day, you could say what you're going to about Bob Aaron. Say what you're going to about Don King.
00:56:35
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Say what you want to about the the late Dan Duva. They put on some hell of a fights. They put on real fights competitively. And them guys made money. I know because I had several champions. on he dun Don King and Bob Aaron and Dan Duva back in the day.
00:56:50
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ah They paid money. They can say what they want to say. But then again, look at say, they but like Mike Tyson would say this here about Don King and I was here.
00:57:01
Speaker
But still, look at the millions and millions of dollars. that Mike Tyson made with Don King. But also look at the money too. yeah know yeah i mean you know what ah Everything's got a WN sword to it.
00:57:13
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But then again, Don King paid him more money than any other promoter ever paid him.
00:57:20
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Let me get your thoughts on this real quick, because this is exactly what you're saying here. In December, top-ranked founder and CEO Bob Arum – obviously, you know Bob very well – he wrote his concerns to the House Committee on Education and Workforce, and he said – as As presently drafted, the conditions required do not include protections for fighters that were set forth in the original act and do not prohibit the UBO, this new organization that will come about, from entering into, and this is what you said, coercive contracts with the fighters in which it would be not required to provide financial disclosures and and essentially you know a firewall.
00:58:06
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between the managers and the promoters so that they would be able to possibly do those kind of con actions that you said maybe they might be trying to look at. Exactly. And that's why I look at, like, say, why if you if you if you if your intention is to be good, then why you got to have something?
00:58:26
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if you're not setting up something for you to be able to make more money yourself and look it's you know it's it's like I have to go back when I first read it and see what they're doing I have to go back to the movie Major Pain you know when in in the army and when he got shot in the leg being hurt from shot and so the major took and broke his thumb so he wouldn't think about his leg no more I think it I think that's what I look at this like, because what happened is now, like I say, if Dana and Turkish got together and Dana is going to be the good guy, going put an escrow fund over here and say, look, we're going to insurance for fighters. Anybody fighters that fights under my promotion or with us, this is what we're doing for coming to us.
00:59:10
Speaker
And that's what he's saying, but he's saying it with your money, not saying his own money. And he can hide what he's going to do. So i have I have to say, i mean, where is there a conflict of interest right now?
00:59:25
Speaker
If you're going to try to be a promoter, a belt holder, I mean, you're going to supply the belt, going be manager, you're going to do everything. So what is it? you It keeps one person or one company from thats destroying a man's life.
00:59:38
Speaker
You can cut him off completely. Cut him totally to where even the man that has no say so. what they're doing, they're making the promoter the most powerful person, but they always thought about, fought over against Don King and Bob Aaron.
00:59:57
Speaker
How much, you know, they always fought fought over that and tried to sue, and you know you're still in this, you're doing that. But God, now you're really getting a path to steal if you want to. You're really getting a shield, you say a firewall to protect your nonsense.
01:00:14
Speaker
Mm-hmm. as you line your pockets, right? and like You line your pockets more and more. It's not, I don't, I don't think it's fair. I think that, uh, I'm a hundred percent but behind with Roy Jones Jr. I'm a hundred percent behind Oscar Dele Hoy.
01:00:31
Speaker
Uh, and you know, like say, I know when you say something, you know, Dana fires back, you know, and fuck this and fuck that. But when people take an action like that, I've learned over the 50 years of my life and any kind of entertainment,
01:00:44
Speaker
they got something to hide because if somebody is concerned about a wellbeing, why are you saying fuck that? you Why are you saying that? Because when a when, because when somebody was just saying something against that, it's only because they not agree in what you want to do your way.
01:01:02
Speaker
Right. And I think, I think Dana shows that I think this is show that. And I think, i I think Dana's intelligent guy. He proved that, but I think that he don't really think what a fighter's like he should. You got fighters for years now that says the same thing.
01:01:20
Speaker
And all you do is listen to every one of them. Now, the only reason, I mean, when it's a map, really how he get this fighter, come over there to him and kind of being, come over there. Well, okay. Well, ain't just cost me. I love Dana White. Let me run over it quick.
01:01:36
Speaker
$15 million runs you over it really quick. Yeah. No. Well, I'm going to love Dana DeL. Right now, going to kiss his ass. He's going to give me $15 million. That's the mentality of a man. That's the mentality of a person, a human being in survival mode.
01:01:52
Speaker
you So if if I could see why they want to fight for anybody else, Oscar, Jimmy, mean yeah anybody. Mm-hmm. I already offered 15 million more than ever made anywhere.
01:02:04
Speaker
Yeah. But you know what? That's what each fighter works for is the highest payday. Right. That's what they work for. And I think, I think that the business in boxing is so big.
01:02:15
Speaker
I feel like everybody should just love the fact, love the art of boxing because boxing is a art. Sweet science. Yeah. There's love to buy of arts of art. There's love to do the boxing side of it.
01:02:30
Speaker
and help everybody get and achieve. if you If you're good enough to be a champion, help anybody become that champion. Be a part of it. Be a part the solution and not part of the problem.
01:02:43
Speaker
And I think that's what we got going on a lot of them in boxing right now. And it's sad because I think right now, everybody sort of looked at each other and worked a little bit together. And it ain't the fighters fighting each other. ah It's It's just crazy.
01:02:58
Speaker
and But they're all doing it with money. And right now it's like, it's like, uh, uh, I'm, I'm knowing, I I probably get be beat, beat, beat over this, but it's like, you know, days, like a dick contest. You know what i'm saying? Yeah.
01:03:14
Speaker
you had to dick that's I that's what they try and do, which is how to do is's money. but got money We've got the longest money. Yeah. We've got the, we've got the, we've got the longest money.
01:03:25
Speaker
I think that's what it's at, but I'm not, it's just my thoughts. I'm not saying it's in my opinion, but if you really sit back and look, that's what everybody's showing you. It's about the money.
01:03:36
Speaker
It's about, huh? I stole this guy, maybe hearns and, and, you know, and they're the hands in his own, right. He's a character. i mean, you know, uh, I enjoy listening to Eddie Hearns. I mean, I, you know, but I don't i don't think it's a promoter actor that I don't have respect for because promoting is a hard job.
01:03:53
Speaker
I think it's a hard job. And you got some promoters, man, that don't have to worry about money. They don't have to worry about selling tickets, you know, it just cause they love it and they got the money to do it. You got some promoters out there that don't have that type money that just love the game enough to try to keep it going and do something for it, you know, and they struggle.
01:04:13
Speaker
But I think if if you want to take and buy insurance for a fighter with their own money, advance their career and they can buy their own insurance.
01:04:24
Speaker
Right. Take that money, you cut from a fighter, add it to a fighter, add it to the B-side fighters where they can't afford to get them because the A-side fighters, they get paid pretty good to today.
01:04:38
Speaker
The money is totally different today. So they get paid, but what about the B-side fighters who come and you you use these guys as a stepping stone to get to your championship fight?
01:04:49
Speaker
They'll never get there. They're not the guys he's talking about. He ain't talking about helping them. He's talking about cutting people's money that makes a big money.
01:05:00
Speaker
that But then he goes to some things like that with Conor Benning, always big signing bonus and this and that yeah for three fights. Now, to me, I look at that as ah as a fool move because now they've been down about three fights. Well, that shows you right there being in the game 50 years when somebody's cutting you back like you have for three fights. And, hey, I give you $15 million for three fights.
01:05:27
Speaker
Well, that means you're just looking to get get inside that vault and get all the money you can and get out because three fights. Yeah. Because, you know, any fight, i think I'm not signing you to fight three fights with me, and then on your full fight, you go to somebody else and make money with them too. when i made the right z To me, the balance is not there.
01:05:48
Speaker
And that's just me, man. um' And keep in mind when I say i um my I'm an eighth grade dropout, so I'm not like these other guys. They've got college education. on i'm ah i'm a I'm a street person. I'm an eighth grade dropout.
01:06:01
Speaker
and and had to learn things on my own. So, you know, so so I'm sure they know more than me and I bow to them. They probably do. But I have to look at what common sense is. I was blessed with common sense.
01:06:14
Speaker
Well, what I can say is that if anyone else had dropped out in eighth grade, they would be lucky and blessed to have ended up where you did and because of your hard work, um because of your grind, because of your hustle, because of your love for the sport and the way that you take care of your business, take care of your fighters, ah so on and so forth, that has allowed you to be able to progress. And as well, the knowledge that
Conclusion and Gratitude
01:06:41
Speaker
you got from people like Don King and things like that, when your partnerships and fighters that you've worked with, all the legendary fighters. So eighth grade dropout or not, I know that ah you know I'm proud of you. And I know you're proud of yourself. And I know your whole family is proud of you. And we thank you here in Nashville for,
01:06:58
Speaker
ah for you know providing this entertainment for us on a monthly basis. Speaking of that, Country Box 40 huge show on Tuesday, April 4th. so April 7th. April 7th. Excuse me. Today's April 4th. My apologies. April 7th. Plaza Mariachi.
01:07:16
Speaker
We are going to be there, so make sure you show up. Get your tickets at countrybox247.com as well. Follow Country Box on Instagram at countryboxofficial, both up there at the top, as well, countrybox on YouTube. Thank you so much for today, brother. I really appreciate it as always. It's great talking with you. I love this this monthly session we have together. Any final thoughts for the ah for the fans out there?
01:07:45
Speaker
Man, you know, just keep supporting boxing and support your your favorite fighter. And because they fight, they they do put a lot on the line for you to entertain you. I mean, they do put their life on line when you're walking that square circle.
01:07:57
Speaker
And, man, Country Box support all. i mean, we we we love and support all fighters. You ain't got to be with me. You ain't got to be with me. I just wish you well. and You know, keep the entertainment going, man. Keep the health together.
01:08:11
Speaker
And train hard. Don't could take it for granted. Don't take it for granted. If you want to go get it ain't nobody gonna bring it to you go get it. And I want to thank you man. Omar you've been a, you've been a blessing to me from day you started. And so I really want to thank you for that. you know, you've been very supportive of me and, uh,
01:08:28
Speaker
um the whole team, my family and all. And so, and I know I'm going to see you Tuesday night. I'll see you April 7th. Yes, sir. It's been, it's been an absolute pleasure of mine to work side by side with you. And I have nothing but great things to say about you and your family. And I will.
01:08:46
Speaker
Be there Tuesday night. Ball and Buds will be there with Country Box at Plaza Mariachi. So come on out and join us next Tuesday, April 7th. I think doors open at 6 p.m. Is that correct? Or 630, something like that? 6 p.m. 6 p.m., yes. 6 p.m. Doors open. Again, get your tickets at countrybox247.com.
01:09:06
Speaker
Jimmy Adams, owner and promoter of Country Box. really thank you again for being here with us at Ball and Buds. I am your host, Omar, the Professor Fonseca, and we will see you Tuesday night. app Plaza Mariachi.
01:09:18
Speaker
Have a great day, everybody.