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Featuring Bobby G on IG @TheOfficial_BobbyG & YouTube @TheAudiblePodcast
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Transcript
Introduction and Special Guests
00:00:00
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You can't pretend, now get ready for the show.
00:00:17
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Yo, yo, yo, what up, friends? Welcome back. Ballin' Buds is back at it again. Yes, with another episode of NBA Talk, we are going to review the NBA Finals. Yes, the...
00:00:37
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yeah Excuse me. the the You know what? I'll just try to get to that in a little bit. Let me introduce my special guest first joining me here at Ball and Buds as always on my NBA talk with me, my brother from Audible Sports Podcast, Bobby G and N.
00:00:57
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honor of the Knicks little Wu-Tang for you bing bong ding dong Bobby digital like King Kong that's for Bobby G how you doing my brother you know and in the words of the great American philosopher Curtis Jackson it's like when I'm right I'm right and when I'm wrong I could have been right so I'm still right because I could have been wrong But like I said, I believe I was right.
00:01:22
Speaker
That's a good tease. I like that. we will We will see exactly what he's talking about just in a few minutes. Let them know where they can find you, my brother. Oh, right up underneath that. YouTube at GameTime on the tour 216 and six and that YouTube at the Audible Podcast, Thursdays and Friday night. That's Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays.
00:01:40
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And, of course, ESPN Jacksonville 690 Radio AM on Thursdays from 4 to 6 p.m. Yeah, you can't forget that. Can't forget. don't bear it Don't bury the lead, as they say in the news. ah Next up, from the Midpost NBA podcast on IG at Midpost Pod, but he can tell you that when he comes on right now, our brother, Desmond Powell. And...
00:02:05
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For his Wu-Tang introduction, I am going to use my favorite song of all time just because I know every word from forever. And no, we're not going to get copyrighted, so I'll only give you a little bit. Abom-atomically, Socrates' philosophies and hypotheses can't be telling me how Desmond Powell be dropping these mockeries. There we go, brother.
00:02:29
Speaker
I love it. I love it. It's great to be with y'all again ah to talk the finals and everything like that. Of course, if you're watching or listening, you can find me at Desmond Powell underscore on Twitter, Instagram, at MidPostPod on the same platforms. in the 19 media group YouTube channel shout out to the home team 19 media group every Tuesday ah the mid post podcast episodes drop unless you're paying attention this week I did drop early on a Sunday because of the finals so yeah <unk> we're we're here for the finals man let's get it
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Wu-Tang Clan and Knicks Championship Discussion
00:03:46
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off. true interesting fact though omar since you're on your wu-tang stuff yes oh yes please please please wu-tang's first album you know enter the woo 36 chambers yes it's one of the few albums the the edited version or the clean version actually sounds better
00:04:04
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than the explicit version remember because uh RZA you know he's enamored in the Kung Fu karate lifestyle all the all the curse words were covered up by uh like fighting sounds yeah so when you listen to it it just gives you that next level of immersion into the album yes you know I never thought about that I really never thought about that but I'm realizing it now yes you are completely correct what Wait a second, I thought the reason that he had... Okay, that's weird. I remember the first time, this is a funny story. I remember the first time I listened to Wu-Tang Enter the 36 Chambers. Rest in power to my brother, Tony Nylander. Anybody watching today, his funeral is this Friday. So please, if you want to pay your respects, it'll be this Friday. It's on my Facebook, check it out. But anyways, it was me and him. His dad was taking us to a Little League football game versus Chantilly. And he had the Wu-Tang 36 Chambers on ah on a tape, on a cassette tape.
00:04:59
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And he popped it in. And I was like, why is there no – I was wondering why there was no curse words. And he told me it was the edited version. And I was like, I just thought his dad wouldn't let him get the one with curse words this whole time. Absolutely.
00:05:11
Speaker
ah literally i That's great. No, that's awesome. No, you're right. I mean, RZA can do a lot of things with music, especially production wise and using that Kung Fu. I mean, integrate what you have, you know, your as your storyline for your group. Shout out Hannah.
00:05:29
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P two 20, uh, 2011. Hello to you for tuning in. We really appreciate it. And everybody else tuning in. Yeah. Drop us comments, ask questions throughout the show. Make sure you're interactive. Everybody watching, hit that like button for us. Help us out in the algorithm. I see a bunch of people piling in now. Um, so yeah, on that note, let me give you the rest of my intro.
00:05:49
Speaker
The NBA, chi the finals are over y'all. The newer new the New York, the, The New York Knicks, going to get through this. I'm going to have to get through this. As a Boston Celtics fan, I'm just going to have to power through and dig deep and say the words, tonight, New York is no longer living in the 36 chambers of basketball suffering.
00:06:13
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The Knicks have finally brought the crown back to the garden, winning their first NBA championship in 53 years. The first since 1973.
00:06:25
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And all season long, they play protect your neck basketball. Defense, toughness, pressure, no fear, even though they got down often. And we'll talk about that. From the opening tip to the final buzzer, they played until they triumphed.
00:06:43
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And in the finals, with that iron flag planted into the ground for the state of New York in a full-blown, you know,
00:06:55
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effort to grab that cream because cash rules everything around me, they prove that this wasn't only built for Cuban links.
00:07:06
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They proved with liquid swords execution that Wu-Tang forever is a celebration. And now the Knicks can as well celebrate forever.
00:07:19
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How about that? Gentlemen, how'd you like them apples? There you There we go. There we go. bo check there we go your w's failure your w's Yes. Yes. So anyways, that just just a little Wu-Tang knowledge there. My friend can't eat. Shout out. Y'all tune into the bottom line sports canteen flow. Hot rod says he's tuned in with a nice pour a bullet. Awesome. and Yeah. Y'all tune in bottom line sports Facebook group. Good sports group.
00:07:45
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Chauncey. I thought that said Chauncey Billups. I was about to, oh, boy, I thought I had ascended. I thought we done hit superstardom. I said, tell me Chauncey Billups is watching my show. Get out of here. That's crazy. No.
00:07:59
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Chauncey Billings, excuse me, 55381, says, I am happy for the Knicks. I remember those 90 teams, Jordan stopping them every year, so you're happy for them. Hey, look, man.
00:08:11
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i I have a bunch of friends that are Knicks fans, unfortunately, and I hit all of them up, and I said it's still fuck the Knicks, but I love you, son. Congratulations. So, look, you got I mean, it's good for the NBA, though,
NBA Finals Analysis and Strategic Insights
00:08:25
Speaker
right, gentlemen? Let's talk let's talk about it let's talk about first, before we get deep into it, just give me your overall thoughts on the Knicks, New York, winning this championship. Bobby G, what you got?
00:08:35
Speaker
It played out exactly how I thought it would. The Knicks were the hottest team coming into the series. Don't get me wrong, the Spurs were playing good basketball as well, but ah just schematically, the Knicks' coaching execution was on par, and I thought it would be a battle of experience versus inexperience, and that's kind of what you saw game to game.
00:08:56
Speaker
I thought the Knicks matched up well with what the Spurs wanted to do. They were able to contain Wimby for the most part, and and they took the series in five, like like I suspected.
00:09:07
Speaker
o Yes, you did predict that. We will give you your props right now on this show. I like giving people their props. Johnny Munoz was on my show, former UFC fighter, and he predicted the Cyril Garan upset. So I like to give props where it's due. And Bobby G predicted that the Knicks would win this series over the San Antonio Spurs, which, you know, to be fair.
00:09:28
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ah Not a lot of people outside of New York were were definitely doing for sure. I know I, although it was more because I hate the Knicks, picked the Spurs, but that was more out of spite. Desmond, talk to us about how you feel about New York getting their first championship in 53 years.
00:09:44
Speaker
ah Yeah, I love it. It was well deserved. And I think a lot of it is what Bobby G said. And especially when we talked last time, like, I mean, everything he said pretty much came true. Like, I think for me to to pick the Spurs and six at the time, like, I think I trusted in their defense a lot more. And to be honest, I as young as they were, i was really impressed with how sustainable their defense was for a series, which which is really hard to do versus the best team to come out the East this year. And um I thought that, you know, they had their gaps sometimes and and their mistakes, but defensively, they were really consistent. But to our Wu-Tang theme today, I mean, yes it's a shame. It's a shame that Wimby went to Shaolin and couldn't handle Shaolin, New York. I mean, I love it. yeah i I didn't see that coming, man. I did see that coming. but But to Bobby's point, like, the Knicks were just on another level. I said on my show they were a team. The Spurs had not seen a team like the Knicks in the playoffs. They were pretty much... every team they faced all into one they they had some of the depth and defense that you saw with the Blazers but the Blazers didn't have shooting they have a lot of the uh offensive core kind of kind of things going on that the Minnesota Timberwolves had but the Timberwolves weren't nearly as connected in the half court as the Knicks showed to be and then of course with the Oklahoma City Thunder I mean
00:11:09
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That was just a different series where where they didn't have as many offensive options they could go to in the half court. So I really thought the Knicks wasted no time showing that they were the better team. um and And how crazy is it y'all that the Spurs were up 72% of the NBA finals and they lose in five games? Say it louder for the people in the back that cannot hear you, Desmond. What the hell is going on? They were down every game. They put themselves into a hole consistently game after game after game and made this championship way harder than it needed to be.
00:11:49
Speaker
Absolutely. Absolutely. It was just their their first 12 to 20 minutes were some of their best basketball. And then everything after that, again, I think that was the biggest thing, if I'm not mistaken, that Bobby said last time, like the Knicks always had an answer and the Spurs ran out of answers. And we saw that throughout the rest of the game, no matter what, Mike Brown seemed to always have something in up his sleeve or Jalen Brunson just said, forget y'all, I'm about to hit this crazy shot. Like the the Spurs didn't have none of those things.
00:12:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And I want to point to what Cantina is saying here because this is something Bobby G just brought up and I wanted to talk about. um The reason the Spurs lost this is because they have an inexperienced coach and a young team. It's not that they are a bad team. They were a great team all season it long, but they won most of the time off of youth and vigor and inexperience that just let them play recklessly to win a lot of games. Wemby, also got a lot of calls that they weren't necessarily giving him in the finals to, you know, every game. So um the Spurs were inexperienced here, and I think that's what cost them the series. Bobby, you talked about that. Tell us more what you think about that.
00:13:01
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ah Yeah, I mean... There's experience fears in depth. Like, as I said this also. The Spurs, there's no problem about it. Spurs are the deepest team in the NBA.
00:13:14
Speaker
They've got a great roster. Yeah. I'm not saying anything about that. Again, I felt the New York Knicks had more effective depth. what does that mean okay i'm i'm not guessing what i'm getting from ah dylan harper or cornet or vassal or killed i'm not gay i don't need who's gonna step up this game the next i know if lambish landry shamick gets in this game he's gonna hit two threes i know uh josh hart is going to grab 11 rebounds i know like you can stamp what you're gonna get from every new york nick that plays in the game
00:13:48
Speaker
That's effective depth. It's not a guessing game. And that's ah essentially what came back to bite him. Which points back to the youth of them. Right. it's Like De'Aaron Fox. he's that That layup is going to haunt him for the rest of his career. my God. people And all we've heard is, oh, he's he's he's the veteran. He's the Pope.
00:14:05
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But we forget. The biggest game De'Aaron Fox has played in his career, aside from these this see these are your playoffs, was a first round game seven against the Warriors. That's it. Mm-hmm.
00:14:17
Speaker
So again, he's an experience when it comes to this part where the Knicks, this team has been building for the last four seasons for this moment. They took their bumps against the Hawks. They took their bumps against the Bucs. They took their bumps against the Pacers to get to this moment. So they've been, not only that, you've had a coach who's been taking his bumps since 2007. Oh, and guess what?
00:14:40
Speaker
He was also raised in the pop tree. You know what mean? So... And this is that this is that layup here you were talking about. And we've got to talk about it. De'Aaron Fox, former Clutch Player of the Year, was not clutch at all this series. Made tons of mistakes for a veteran. Desmond, talk to us.
00:15:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that was really unfortunate to see, man. I think to Bobby's point, the finals are just different. Like all season, we've been saying that, wow, especially in the playoffs, right? Like, wow, this young team just finds a way to put an end to the yeah make make a lot of what we've seen in the NBA become a myth, right? Like, oh, there's no such thing as an experience no more. Not in today's NBA. Like these guys are playing above their age. But then they ran into the Knicks and it looked an entirely different story. um Now, the thing I will say about De'Aaron Fox is that, again, it's part of that bad side of basketball. Like, he did take a lot of shots that we've seen him make in Sacramento. um And unfortunately, they just didn't fall. And whether that was his injuries or fatigue down the stretch, you know, we don't know those things. um But...
00:15:50
Speaker
you know that's that's that was the big thing that stood out to me was that if you really it's it's funny because not a lot of people were paying attention to the kings but like if you were paying attention to the kings you've seen de'aron fox make a lot of those shots that he did take especially in game five but i think the thing about it is that he did settle for a lot of threes and and so it was some of those things where i was just like he just doesn't look the same Like, and and I think it's that series fatigue. Sometimes it just affects you mentally just as much as it does physically.
00:16:22
Speaker
No, that's a really great point. And yeah you're not wrong about the shots that he took in Sacramento. He's not that he's not a different player. So you're not wrong about that. Bobby G, you were going to say something? Now, I'm saying only other thing, I mean, he was dealing with the high ankle sprain and that's tough, especially in basketball. But to Desmond's point, a lot of those mistakes had nothing to do with the ankle sprain. That like that layup, that's just unsmart basketball.
00:16:46
Speaker
um Right. Why not just pull right not just pull it out and just take the foul? Right. But you don't know what you don't know, right? Yeah. i also think he just got kind of like he got kind of like caught and he was like i'm not sure you know which way i do i want to and he and he just tried to go for it not the right decision but yeah yeah yeah again but guess what when he's in that position again next next playoffs we'll talk about that watch the watch to say oh i've been here before let me go ahead grab ball and go to the corner and yeah we gonna play keep away for a couple seconds till we get get five it's you know and i grew up in an era where you had to learn how to win
00:17:24
Speaker
You know, you had to wait to turn. it This is just the Spurs learning how to win and waiting their turn. I agree. I agree completely. And yeah, we'll get to that in a little bit. We'll talk about Fox and if he'll even have that chance to do what Bobby just said. Canteen thinks he's fish food. um This is another thing I want to point to. And i actually talked about this with Canteen on my show last week um because he brought it up and, uh,
00:17:46
Speaker
ah Bobby G, you were on the show with Mel last offseason when we did our season review. When I said, and we made a lot of jokes about the Knicks, when I said that, and I want to pat myself on the back for this, I said that Mike Brown was the missing piece for the New York Knicks win a championship. I said that this is exactly what they needed, was to bring him in, and he would take them over the top. And he did exactly that. Let's talk about Mike Brown. What do y'all think about him?
00:18:12
Speaker
Good, well. ah i I'm actually not, same with you, I'm not surprised. Like this is a guy who, and I know I've said like to take on the responsibility of the New York Knicks is a huge deal and the fact that he didn't shy away from it and still stood 10 toes when they were in the media saying hey Mikael Bridges ain't worth them picks you need to uh figure out what's going on Karl-Anthony Towns he shouldn't be telling you that he doesn't know what to do like and he had to look the media in the face and and and be accountable for those things and he just said like hey you know I know I had Knicks fans around me saying like nah we it's not gonna happen when they when they had those that losing streak losing by like 20 points or whatever was like oh no we done like this is not gonna this is gonna be a one and done situation but
00:18:56
Speaker
Again, I think it's just a big credit to him sticking with that adversity. To Bobby G's point, having the experience that he's had on various NBA rosters, in various situations, coaching stars, being on the assistant coaching side for championship teams, like all of that just seemed to be a great culmination of what he's done with the Knicks. Like Mike Brown deserves all his flowers for what he did this season.
00:19:18
Speaker
ye ah I think you think he's the only coach to have coached LeBron and Cope, I'm not mistaken. uh so you coach two guys like that and you have the early success remember he came into the he inherited lebron james and was uh i think uh with the first for the first four or five years of career won 60 games every year uh so to come from that uh to to fall the way he did and just remembering back to the to the he was fired from cleveland and ended
00:19:51
Speaker
The owner literally came out and said, I made a mistake and firing him and hired him back and then fired him after that particular season. And that literally almost ended his coaching career to go back down, back to the assistant life, go back to San Antonio, then go to Golden State, sit down to Steve Kerr, kind of reinvent himself and come back with this.
00:20:13
Speaker
If I'm happy for nothing else, I'm happy that he came out on top. So. Shout to Mike Brown. Shout out to you. Yeah, you're spot on. i had questions about Mike being the coach of the scenes. It's like my I didn't know if he had learned enough, but apparently he did. he made the right calls, right adjustments all postseason and they got the job done. Salute.
00:20:35
Speaker
Absolutely, absolutely. I know that's something that I pointed out in, a I love even how small it was in game five when he thought about putting Huck Porti in for a minute, but he peeped Luke Cornett like, hey, we know Luke Cornett move like I said on Twitter, he moved like year 21 Dirk. So yeah.
00:20:51
Speaker
at that point he was like we going small ball and we driving by this dude we putting him out on perimeter and we getting layups and i've uh it led to a jalen brunson layup and yeah i think og and anobi end up scoring too so and the spurs had to call a timeout like that's what it was he just was really good at bouncing back and making adjustments these and not and not panicking like he didn't panic when when cat got the fight the early fouls in ah game five. He didn't panic when he picked up that fifth foul.
00:21:18
Speaker
You know, just handled it appropriately and that they were able to keep their composure as a team and get the job done. So yeah, that that starts ah from the bench, from sideline, from your coach. Absolutely.
Knicks' Championship Run and Future Prospects
00:21:31
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not even going to lie to y'all. I heard absolutely nothing of what y'all said for like the past five minutes, bro. I was sitting there. I was like, it just cut out. You were talking, and then it just went out. And I was like, what's going on? And I'm like, you're trying to like fix the settings. And then I was like, I don't want to leave without saying anything. So I was waiting for one of y'all to like say something. But then I was like, you know what? Bobby G knows how to stream. I was like, they both know how to stream. Bobby G knows how host. I'll right back. I was like, let me get out of here and come around. So anyways, I didn't hear anything said. So I'll just agree with everything you said.
00:22:03
Speaker
um its Basically, you you you were Forrest Gump when they pulled the bloods on. And that's all I have to say about that. Yes, that's exactly what happened. so But anyways, it it was a historic comeback, right? And the reason I'm doing the Wu-Tang theme is because I would like to point out that this comeback happened after Wu-Tang performed at halftime.
00:22:24
Speaker
ah They were down 27. With live vocals, mind you. Banjo didn't do that. ah Cardi B didn't do that. I'm not going to say it was Wu-Tang that won the game, but I'm not going to, not going to say that it wasn't Wu-Tang that helped him to win this game. Not only that, I want to say something to the NBA right now.
00:22:44
Speaker
Uh, look, I realize you don't televise most halftime performances. Uh, But when you have a legendary group such as the Wu-Tang in their home stadium in what is their last tour of their career, you might think you want to put it on some damn TV so some of us can watch. Because I know my whole group chat was like, why the hell can't we watch the performance? And if you got Pat McAfee yapping on ESPN2 anyways, show the damn halftime performance on there.
00:23:13
Speaker
They didn't flip the bill for that. They didn't flip the bill for that. Oh, they didn't pay the rights for the music? Okay. Yeah. Anyways, you know how i know this was the biggest comeback in history? They didn't have to tell me, although they kept mentioning it over and over. It's because now the Knicks, even worse, took away the Celtics, one of their best accomplishments, because we had the biggest history comeback by 24 points when we came back on the Lakers in Game 4 in 2008. Not that fraudulent Paul Pierce. I got to go to the bathroom. Don't you dare. Bring back to the court in a wheelchair.
00:23:45
Speaker
okay Sir. Sir. Oh, my God. why would you do that on my why Why would you do that to me when I'm like looking right at you? It's not true. I just hate Paul Pierce that much.
00:24:01
Speaker
Well, you know what's coming. Because you know when you're on this show... If you dare ever besmirch the tremendous name of Paul Anthony Pierce, also known as The Truth, I will make sure you never say bad things about him again, sir, okay?
00:24:20
Speaker
I love you, Paul. Anyways, just keep it moving. So anyways, but for real, going back to what we said, Their youth really hurt them in losing those games. And the Knicks, yes, there's the effective depth that Bobby G talked about. um While i I think that the Spurs have a very well-filled-out roster and are going to, and we'll talk about this in a second, will win a championship in the future, I also believe that the Knicks just had the better team this year. And I believe also that it was a it was a team of destiny.
00:24:58
Speaker
sort of thing you know what i mean like it just seemed like all year long they were going to be in the mix and then they had their ups and downs they had kind of a lull mid-season um then everybody thought the celtics were going to take it but then you know we choked it up so they also didn't have to play ah The Thunder, we don't know what would have happened if they played a more experienced championship team.
00:25:25
Speaker
So, you know, I'm not going to say that it was by any means easy. But what I'm saying is that it seemed like it was more of a destiny sort of thing to me. What do we what we would you all say to that?
00:25:37
Speaker
but You know, every championship team gets a couple bounces their way, right? um And i you don't have to say I'll say it for you. If OKC would have beat the Spurs, the Knicks would have beat them, too. I don't think they have a chance without without a healthy Jalen Williams.
00:25:50
Speaker
OK. All right. Well, there you go. ah But yeah, every championship team gets a couple bounces their way. And essentially once Once it and it goes back to coaching again, once Mike Brown recognized what they were doing wrong against the Hawks, why they were having such a tough time and started to run the offense through through cat.
00:26:11
Speaker
they took off. Now, what's not going being noticed is, versus Spurs, he reverted back to what they were doing before. He took the ball out of Carl Anthony Towns' hands um to effectively, in a way, semi-neutralize Wimby on defense, which is why you saw them moving Wimby on to other players to try and get, one, get him closer to the basket and to try and and actually have him affect the ball handlers.
00:26:41
Speaker
So yeah, they got the lucky bounces and they took advantage of every single opportunity that came their way. Speaking of lucky bounces, how was this for a lucky bounce? OG Ananobi with the tip.
00:26:56
Speaker
Oh, man. they I mean, you got look at how far he back he had to go to kind of guide that. It's like the like the the maradonana Diego Maradona hand of God play in soccer. That's kind of what that's like for the Knicks. They should call that the Statue of Liberty play or something like that is what they should call it. But but that's good. that I just made that up. I don't know. i did pretty good um Anyways, but no, they did get a lot bounces. Look, AP, I ain't got no time for this, okay? All right?
00:27:23
Speaker
Yes, I'm always getting trolled because my teams always suck. I don't have time for that. Shout out, AP. Y'all tune in to Rec Room Sports. Let's talk sports and all the crew out there. Thank you, AP, for tuning in. uh canteen glad brunson won mbp shout out to jalen brunson for winning the nvp as well uh and canteen has a question here for us so let's see uh see does this solidify the knicks being the new leaders of the east uh desmond talk to us what do you think uh i say yes i mean when you when you ho ho ho hoist that larry ob be
00:27:58
Speaker
you're You're the leaders until somebody knocks you off. So I'm absolutely willing to give the Knicks that title for sure. And because I was going to ask this question anyways, Canteen, so thank you for the great segue. i have, here we go.
00:28:15
Speaker
Boom. Let's answer this question now. Are they going back to back? Desmond, what do you got? That I don't know because in in the recent years we have not seen back-to-back champions. Can they be the team of the East and not? will I don't understand what you're saying to me here. like like I still think if OKC is healthy, that's still going to be tough. ah me and I just think that it's like because I had OKC going back-to-back this year. I thought that was set in stone. I thought so too. was with you.
00:28:50
Speaker
and so i don't know i'm just not as confident saying that these days because we haven't seen a lot of repeat champions um i i still i want to give the knicks that eastern conference respect but the west is just going to be so tough still and you never know what's going to happen this off season either so um i'm confident enough to say that they can come out the east again i just am a little hesitant because i'm thinking about the western conference No, no, no. I had to press you a little bit. No, no, no. I do see where you're coming from. ah Bobby G, do the Knicks go back-to-back?
00:29:25
Speaker
Absolutely not. And they're not they're not the clubhouse leaders in the East either. ah the ski Recent history would say no to both. No team has come back-to-back out of the East since since my Cavaliers.
00:29:36
Speaker
ah And we haven't had a back-to-back NBA champion since that Golden State Warriors team, KD. um And just even looking at looking at this season, like why were the Knicks considered leaders out of the gate anyway?
00:29:52
Speaker
Because your Celtics were coming into the season injured, right? So right again, talk about, you know, getting the bounces and that luck. Well, that was part of coming into the season. The East was wide open. And then what happens?
00:30:05
Speaker
uh the calves don't play as well as they're supposed to the pistons come out of nowhere palo bank carol regresses the magic fall off uh you know it was just too many turmoil in milwaukee uh halliburton missing the hall see well all that's going to be fixed next year Giannis could be somewhere else in the East more beneficial.
00:30:24
Speaker
Halliburton is going to be back. ah You know, hopefully the carries are and we were just as injured as the Celtics are. We didn't our starting lineup played less than 15 games together and didn't even play together until March. um And does Jay Hall is he still under contract?
00:30:42
Speaker
ah Yeah, he's going to opt out of his deal. We'll probably resign a little bit less so we can get under the second apron and make a move. okay um the hawks going to be improved the hornets are going to be improved like it's just going to more difficult next season than it was this season so uh it'll be tough yeah no i agree completely with both of these gentlemen uh they could be the leaders in the clubhouse right now because as desmond said if you win the chip you are the best team at that year but bobby g just mentioned a bunch teams in the east and i mean we didn't even talk about the west uh where you all of the West teams at least, where you're looking at Denver and Minnesota and so on and so forth. So no, it doesn't happen. They have had now, as Bobby G mentioned, the last was Golden State. They've been eight new champions every year, eight in a row. So I don't know when the next time back-to-back was going to happen. thought I was going to see it with my Celtics, and then I thought we were going to see with the Thunder. The Celtics got hurt. The Thunder didn't get through. So I guess we ain't going probably see it I don't think it's going to be the Knicks either.
00:31:46
Speaker
But anyways, that being said, um one thing that and I just got to bring this up. It's nothing to do with politics or anything. But the fact that the only game they lost was the one that Donald Trump went to when a lot of fans were prevented from being in the stands just tells you all you need to know. And
Spurs' Future and Potential Changes
00:32:07
Speaker
I'm going to leave it at that. We don't need to get into politics.
00:32:09
Speaker
um But James Dolan, you a fool for that because you almost cost your team the damn championship. I thought they had the Trump. I call i called it You Got Trump. It was a Trump jinx. i was at The Trump sports jinx. I was like, you gotta be kidding me You fools. Anyways, talking about the Spurs, though, let's move it on.
00:32:26
Speaker
um to By the way, sports professor stat for that game three that we talked about, it was the – highest television audience for a game three in more than 25 years. It peaked at 26.3 million and averaged 23.8 million viewers. It was the best since you know when Michael Jordan, at Chicago Bulls, Utah Jazz series that we all know about the same series we know about. So There's your ah sports pitch stat for that. Let's talk about the San Antonio Spurs.
00:32:56
Speaker
What about the San Antonio Spurs? um Obviously, we talked earlier about possibly do, does De'Aaron Fox even come back? They've got a lot of questions to answer on their team, with their but they do have a lot of good good young players. that are also under contract. So what do we think about the San Antonio Spurs? More my question is going to be how many championships can the San Antonio Spurs win?
00:33:28
Speaker
So Bobby G, we'll start with you. um It depends on who gets in victory when Bionis' ear and tells him you're not going to win anything until you get a post game. um That was one of the biggest reasons why they did not win this year and why I felt they couldn't win. Like he's he's in a there was this thing I'm old school and I went to school in the in the inner city.
00:33:52
Speaker
If there was a guy at your school like six five six six he was going to play center. Because normally that dude was the tallest dude in the school. The problem problem with that is is when he gets those stats up and he goes off to college, they're going to say, OK, here, here's that ball on the wing.
00:34:09
Speaker
I need you to go to work. And he's going to have no clue what to do because he's never been taught how to drill ball. He's been the tallest dude ever since. Wimby's like the opposite of that, right? He's so tall and has these great skills that every coach is like, oh, you can do this. We're going to have you do this. And nobody taught him in postgame.
00:34:26
Speaker
Plus, that's not the European game anyway. So now you get to the NBA. Guess what? There's about 70 big men who are maybe not as tall, but they're just as a athletic and a little bit stronger than you.
00:34:38
Speaker
You can't blow by every big man. And we saw this show. Yeah, Hardenstein, I'm taking care of you. yeah Rudy, I'm taking care. I've been blown by Rudy Gobert my whole life. ah with you you camp it blow by yeah You can't blow by Carl Anthony Towns. He's just as athletic.
00:34:55
Speaker
You can't blow blow by what's my name? rich You can't blow by him. He's Rob Roberts, Mitch Roberts. He's just as athletic as you are. And So he's going to have to get a post. don't care if it's just one move.
00:35:09
Speaker
If you can do one post move, but where we can get, hey, we missed two threes in a row. Here, Wimby, get us one. That's all he needs. That's all he needs. Just one post move where where they can say get us a bucket, and he can get that bucket for sure.
00:35:25
Speaker
But since he learns that, hey, it's up for the NBA. I mean, I agree completely with you. You cannot be the best player in the league if your game is not fully rounded out. And that includes at your size, being able to play in the post. Shout out to our brother, Walker, Mark, who mentioned, you know, the unpolished list of him. Now shout out to you for talking about this last week on my show, where we talked about the post move that he doesn't have. And you're right. If he doesn't get a well-versed,
00:35:55
Speaker
rounded game and use your fucking seven four seven five whatever the hell you are and stick your ass down the paint and learn a damn uh sky hook like kareem abdul jabbar or or just stand on top of people and just duck because you can reach the damn rim anyways without having to jump desmond get me before i get pissed off No, I am right with Bobby G, man. And honestly, the Spurs have a decent checklist to look at this offseason. Like if you're Wemby, you're thinking about those things. What can I do that is not talent based, but skill based? That's going to help me in these situations going more into the future.
00:36:37
Speaker
ah and And even that, right? Like we've been saying this the last few years. How Wemby is in a perfect position to make the skyhook cool again and he just doesn't want to do that because that's just not what the game is. But it's like to all of us, we're like, dude, you're sitting on a goldmine right here. You can make this cool for Ken. Unstoppable! But I think it's it's it's Wemby focusing on that, those things, his stamina, strength, all of that. I think the next thing would be figuring out if you really want to maintain that three-guard lineup with Fox and Harper and Castle. Because let's be real, Dylan Harper's looking like you're going to have to start him next season. And if you're De'Aaron Fox, you don't necessarily want to take that six-man role unless he's of the notion like, hey,
00:37:24
Speaker
I don't mind sacrificing if it means we do get jewelry in the future. So that's something that they got to monitor. And if they don't, what do you do with De'Aaron Fox? Because the other thing is that the Spurs were height wise, they were a small basketball team. So it's like,
00:37:41
Speaker
what when when luke cornett's struggling and wimby's tired you don't really have any other taller bodies to rely on kelden johnson is 6'5 devin vassell is 6'5 harrison barnes wasn't even in the rotation anymore so what are you doing at that four spot and and something that i've talked to in my circle is like what Wemby might need a big man next to him.
00:38:04
Speaker
He might need somebody to help him get these rebounds that he's not getting because a lot of those times, Wemby was going up with one arm. And you can't do that versus Mitchell Robinson and Carl Anthony Towns, these old school bigs who are going to get that thing with two hands. So I think Wemby, the Spurs might have to decide who they want to pair with Wemby in the front court, who's a legit forward or even a center and make Wemby play the four.
00:38:27
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, make him play the floor, yeah. Go ahead, Bobby. No, I'm sorry, agree 100%. I mean, his his frame says, yeah, you want to put him the center, but his game is powerful. Mm-hmm.
00:38:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And look, man, I know threes are the, are the way that the the kids want to play ever since Steph Curry came in and made it possible. But your ass is seven foot tall and don't nobody want to see your ass going out to the damn three point line. Every time we already get mad enough. We call Anthony town. Zesty as does it at six, 10. You think we ain't going to get mad at you and you seven, and five, get the hell up out of here. So what are you talking about?
00:39:06
Speaker
So, um, All right, how many championships can the Spurs win? we didn't answer this. Desmond, give me a number.
00:39:18
Speaker
Oh my gosh. it's If it was like 20 years ago, I feel like I would say five. But in this era, I would say like two. I just feel like it's going to be back and forth with the Thunder. And then you never know.
00:39:32
Speaker
who like kind of what we talked about earlier with the Knicks, if it kind of just seemed like destiny would have it and they kind of, you know, got a little Disney magic to get in there. You never know who's gonna do that. Like is Ant Edwards gonna have that kind of run? Is Jokic gonna get another one? Like you just never know who might emerge and just fit. because even with, when it came to Kobe and Tim Duncan, there was a little pocket Dirk got his and there was another pocket where D Wade got his, even though opposite conferences, but still like you just never know Who might sneak in and get theirs?
00:40:03
Speaker
and And I just think I don't see it being that high for the Spurs because it's just going to be so much competition. So I'm going to play it a little safer and say two, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is more than that. But I'm just going to be safe and say two.
00:40:16
Speaker
That's hilarious because when I was thinking of my answer, that's exactly how I thought of it. I was like, if this was back in the day, I'd say five too. I was like, damn, I'd say at least four or five. But yeah, nowadays you're right. We talked about the parity that exists in the league and how much competition there is um from year to year.
00:40:34
Speaker
And yeah, I completely agree that, um you know, i don't I don't think they'll necessarily win five, but I do think they'll win multiple. I don't think Wemmy's going to go home with less than two. I don't think that. Bobby G, what you got?
00:40:45
Speaker
um I'm going to say three. um ah The Spurs are one of the best run organizations in basketball. So i think they'll find a way to keep keep the championship level caliber talent around Wembe.
00:41:00
Speaker
ah But the reason I say three is it's too much movement today. Like if this is was the old school NBA where I know that a this next starting five is going to be Nick starting five for like the next six seasons.
00:41:11
Speaker
Yeah, but it's just too much move too much move like the next could literally have a ah whole new starting five next season right if they wanted to. OKC could get end up with Giannis.
00:41:22
Speaker
The Lakers are going to steal somebody superstar like these things are just going to happen. So as as the day is bright, my friend, the Lakers will have some conspiracy to fucking get a star player. Yeah, they don't draft players. They just wait till you get good. And they say, hey, come get this bag in L.A.
00:41:43
Speaker
but Yeah, but the Spurs are just too well run to not get at least one. but I think they can get three. I think Wimby, he'll become good enough to he he can force three.
00:41:57
Speaker
Okay. And does De'Aaron Fox stay? Answer that question, Bobby G. Next season? Yeah. they keep him or do they trade him?
00:42:06
Speaker
I would, if I were the GM, I would only trade him for a center to put next to Wimby. Okay. Other than that, I keep him, but he probably comes off the bench. Next year, Dylan Harper will start. He will start. That's what you were saying, Desmond, right? So you agree with that then?
00:42:22
Speaker
ah Yeah, I think that De'Aaron Fox, like, I think they do keep him around because, you know, that's kind of what's been the underlying opinion here when when it comes to the some of the the hate that he he's been getting the last few days is that De'Aaron Fox really did a...
00:42:38
Speaker
he he really was the one dude that was like running the team. I didn't necessarily get the same impact from Stephon Castle. Like Stephon Castle, i always say is like a, you you snap your fingers and he's just impactful. Like you blink, he's got five, a couple of rebounds, couple of assists, couple of put back steals. ah Dylan Harper was very similar, like just spark plug. Like a lot of people were saying like, oh Absolutely, Dylan Harper needed to stay in that game, but I was kind of like, well, what else is he doing that's not scoring? Like, ah so much of it was scoring for him. And I felt like De'Aaron Fox just had a better combination of running the offense and being able to get to a shot for himself, even if it wasn't always successful. So I think with that, ah ah until Dylan Harper and Stephon Castle can show that they are like true...
00:43:24
Speaker
the floor generals out there, then they might move on from De'Aaron Fox or like I said, just keep him as a six man. But ah for the time being, I do think he stays. Yeah, and and I mean, you know it makes sense, right? Try to keep the consistency with the team that you already have. Their books are clean. Victor Wimbayama has one more year on his rookie deal before the Supermax kicks in. Stephon Castle has two more years on his rookie deal. Dylan Harper, obviously, a rookie um or second-year player, sorry, he has three years left.
00:43:55
Speaker
So, you know, they've got young players. um Now they do have to worry about Kelton Johnson, who has only one more year, what they're going to do to with him. or Do they want to trade him? Do they want to you know sign him to an extension? At some point, that money is going to come into play before they kick into that first apron. But I agree with you right now, when you have those clean of books, you continue with the continuity of the team that you have because you did get so close and you do just need a couple
Offseason Strategies and Roster Moves
00:44:22
Speaker
moves here and there. whether that be a center, whether that be a power forward, whatever it may be, you just need a couple tweaks to hopefully get you you know to that point where you just get over that hump and win the championship. Maybe next year, the things fall into place like it did for you know the Knicks this year, like it did for the Thunderdouse here, like it did for the Celtics the year before, like it has for every one of these championship teams.
00:44:42
Speaker
ye Shane Peacher, thank you for tuning in, my brother. Says the series was Wendy's heel turn. A little wrestling parlance for you. Shout out to Shane Peacher. Thank you for tuning in, brother. Oh, there he is. There's the Knicks fan that I first hit up and said, fuck you, you're Knicks, but I love you. i still love you. Congratulations, my brother.
00:45:01
Speaker
um I'm happy that you're happy, but I'm not happy that there it was the Knicks. But you know I love you. Shout out my brother Jason. um And then, Alan, look, it's not ah it's not a baseball show. I don't have time for this, okay? We'll talk baseball next week.
00:45:14
Speaker
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00:45:34
Speaker
So couple notes before we move on, because I want to get to the Knicks side of things. We need to say one thing about the Rockets passed up on Stephon Castle, by the way. I just wanted to mention that and took Reed Shepard as well. Imagine had they have gone the other way. But that's just another...
00:45:52
Speaker
Side note that I had thought about when I was there, but let's talk about the Knicks. What do the Knicks need to do in the offseason to try to make sure that they do go back to back? Because again, we haven't seen, we've had eight different champions the last eight years. We've thought that there was going to be repeats. There has not. So the Knicks have done a very impressive job of putting this roster together, um you know, going out and getting Carl Anthony Towns, going out and stealing Jalen Brunson.
00:46:19
Speaker
I don't know how they only got a second round pick taken away for that illegal tampering that they did. But, oh, again, the Knicks and the Lakers always getting everything. Oh, here we go. NBA.
00:46:35
Speaker
Bullshit Celtics did it the right way. We ain't never get no damn of conspiracy cheating to win our champion. Anyways, and it's not um the Knicks. They drafted Robinson.
00:46:46
Speaker
They went and got Brunson, Shamit Clarkson. But those two are both on one year deals. They traded for heart and Anobi Towns Bridges Alvarado crazy GM work.
00:46:59
Speaker
right there. Their Knicks should have their starting five. I know you said earlier they they make they could have a whole new one. They should be able to keep their starting five because their books are okay because Towns picks up his 61 million extension in 27-28. So we'll see what happens at that point in time. But what do you all think about the Knicks um and in this offseason and what they may need to do to try to go back-to-back?
00:47:25
Speaker
That is. ah I think as crazy as it sounds, like have a good summer, but don't have too much fun. ah You don't want to get. You're my boy Jason is doing. Look, you say he's still drunk.
00:47:41
Speaker
You don't want to do that. You don't want to do that. Like. if you step into next season too too high on the on on what happened last year, these teams, again, the Celtics, maybe even the Cavs, like a lot of these these teams, the Pistons, if they do something this offseason, like, oh yeah they they're going to be coming for them. They're going to be coming for them. And again, the way that's the game of basketball is you're not going to win the same way you did the year before. You got to throw all that away. Like, you know, if let's say they do make the finals this time, it might have to be a little bit more aggression from Carl Anthony Towns. We saw it in the first few games. And then after that, it was more about his presence than how he was scoring. Like, it's going to be different either way. So I think if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But you got to be careful because you just won a championship in New York of all places. you don't want to have too much fun where you just next year just sloppy as heck so that's my thing with the nicks
00:48:36
Speaker
ah mean da me beeji uh for me i'm just looking at looking at even though we won what do where do we struggle i'm looking to upgrade the backup point guard our position because ball handling became an issue at a lot of points during the series uh i love i love my boy jose alvarado but he's not the greatest All ah you know protector, so to speak. And you know in the words of Stephen A. Smith, when it comes to half-court defense, he's he's miniature. So you can't you can't have two miniature guards out there at the same time when you're going against the the Spurs and the Thunders of the world. So I'm to upgrade that position. I would like to keep Jose on the roster, though. Don't get me wrong.
00:49:17
Speaker
Oh, no, no, no. you You love him as a player, no doubt. Yeah, but i'll keep um'm I'm looking to probably upgrade for Mitchell Robinson. um it didn't It didn't come to this in the finals.
00:49:28
Speaker
But if you watch that cast, it's like, we went to the Hacker Robinson strategy like early and often. we were in position where that came into play the spurs avoided they weren't in foul trouble at the right times which which allowed him to be on the floor but i can't have you on the floor if you shoot 26 from the free throw line my guy right ah yeah so uh i may you know he may have played his last game as a nick which isn't a bad thing uh and yeah again i'm gonna get one more ball handler out there at the wing position.
00:50:00
Speaker
So to just, you know, to make that a non-issue, like we saw it the pressure was effective and it did bother them. um They were just, they they got away with it this time. But like Desmond you're not going to win the same way next year. So, you know, you got you got to plug those holes while you can.
00:50:19
Speaker
Now, they always they do still have Jalen Brunson, who you know brought him back a lot in this series. So they always have him to lean on, but you're right. You got to have the right, correct depth and plug those holes. Desmond?
00:50:30
Speaker
oh ah Yeah, but you know as as Bobby G was talking, somebody that I would want to see take a leap and get an opportunity just because he's still in-house is Mohamed Diohwaru.
00:50:41
Speaker
I would want see that. i know I know he's on the wing, but I think as as as we've seen in recent years in the NBA, some guys just finally get their opportunity when they're developed and especially having be on a roster like this. I think for him being alongside and learning from guys like OG and Anobi, Mikael Bridges, especially defensively, like he's got some pretty good examples of how to be impactful on offense and on defense at the same time. So if let's say the Knicks were to have to sacrifice maybe some guard play, they would still have somebody like him who's like the the prototypical player that you want on your team, ah like a six eight six nine and wing, who's able to knock down threes. I believe he was over 40% from three-point this year So uh yeah i want to see somebody like him get an opportunity if that yeah ah opens up for him fair no i like that i like that pick a lot um before we move on from this game and talk a little bit of news that came out today i do want to say jason uh you're one of my brothers and i know you would never act up uh so i know you're you're staying stable out there while you're having a good time partying but to the knicks fans in the streets we need to have a word
00:51:55
Speaker
Disgusting. Horrendous. Look, I don't even care if you if you destroy a school bus. I really don't. They got money in the city. They can pay for that shit. They waste a lot of money on other stupid shit. I don't care.
00:52:07
Speaker
I don't care that you did that. I don't care that you even, well, the taxi cab was kind of bad because someone got to pay for that taxi, but they rent those taxis anyways. So why I don't even care about that. But when you start trying to beat up other fans for doing nothing other than wearing a jersey of another team,
00:52:26
Speaker
When you even pretend like you're going to light some dude's hair on fire because he's wearing the Spurs jersey. If you think that y'all are going to jump people 50 to 1 because they're wearing a Spurs jersey, y'all are tripping hard.
00:52:43
Speaker
And the problem is a lot of that came after wins, which God forbid it would have been a damn loss. We might not have New York City around no more. um I'm going to get off my soapbox because I have a lot more shit I could talk about Knicks fans. And this is why I hate the Knicks and their fans because of stupid shit like this. But I'm going to let up more level-headed people speak right now. Anybody got thoughts?
00:53:07
Speaker
Yes, I mean, it's nothing to say. what It was disgusting. Like, i know the word, you know, fan is short for fanatics, but but let's be real. Jesus. Jesus. You know, saying like you all say everybody thinks they Billy badass until they run into Billy badass.
00:53:22
Speaker
there's one video out there. This first and this dude, man, this dude, three out of five. He's like, no one fucking would. The whole city was just backing up. He was like, right. So, I mean, you know, you keep running up on on them skinny dudes. that that's Yeah, just but it shouldn't even come to that, man. You won, you you got your you chip.
00:53:44
Speaker
Like, just celebrate, man. Just celebrate. ofate Sports is supposed to be a unifier, not a divider.
Next Season's Title Contenders and Trade Rumors
00:53:50
Speaker
I can't imagine going to another city to watch a basketball game to go see my team. And all of a sudden I'm getting beat up outside the stadium just because I'm wearing a Jersey. I've been to Kansas city as a Raiders fan and I didn't get beat up. Actually, they cooked me barbecue afterwards. Cause there's such nice people in Kansas city. Yeah. That dude was a wild heavyweight though. Can't team. You're right. Desmond, you got anything on that?
00:54:14
Speaker
No home training. No home training. It was a reminder that the nick the New York is still one of the dirtiest cities. um just Not just pollution, but personality too. Like that's just, you know, and and I know that doesn't go for all New York Knicks fans, you know, shout out to the New York bos But man, you you can't be acting like that. You guys said it best. Like that that's just not what sports is about. And I mean, come on, they not, they not paying you a dime. You don't need to be acting like that.
00:54:41
Speaker
like even they good You even paid. but Exactly. Like, you know, you're on camera. You know, they're going to come back and get you for that school bus. You don't think they're going let you go for that, right? You know, all y'all on camera, right?
00:54:57
Speaker
Dumb asses. Anyways, um looking at the NBA title odds for next season, the Spurs and the Thunder are tied at 250. And the Celtics are at plus 550. The Knicks are at plus 700. No other team is even close. The Nuggets and the Pacers are next at 2,800. So the odds makers in Vegas over where you're at, BG, have the Spurs, Thunder, Celtics, and Knicks, one of those four winning next year as a pretty much lock at this point. so
00:55:27
Speaker
But there is one subject I wanted to talk about before we got out. Today there was news about Giannis Antetokounmpo wanting to go to Miami and that Miami is in heavy pursuit.
00:55:38
Speaker
So what do we think? Is Giannis going to go to Miami? Desmond, talk to us. i I don't have a lot of faith in the Heat for that one. They've they've missed out on a lot of guys the last few seasons. i I don't have faith that they can get that done. And especially, like, it's just so many conflicting reports. Like, one minute you're hearing that Giannis wants to be a little bit more in a homegrown situation that's not Milwaukee. And then you it's it's like all these big cities or like warm cities like Miami, which again, I think that was something he might have said to where he said, oh, well, at least allegedly that he did want to go to a warm city, which being, you know, if you run the central area, that makes sense. But I just don't trust the Miami Heat to get that done. I would love it for them to finally get somebody. But
00:56:24
Speaker
I don't know. I think we talked about that before. Like I would, I would much rather see him with Anthony Edwards. I would much rather see him. I know Bobby G said the jazz last time, like I'm still hype off that hoping that there's a possibility for that. Cause that sounds more exciting. Like, especially as they're up and coming team in the Western conference. Like i I, I don't have a lot of faith in the heat to to get that done.
00:56:46
Speaker
I'm with you. Giannis, call D-Wayt. There's a reason why D wade owns a piece of the jazz versus the heat. There's a reason why it back of his basketball card does not read Miami all the way down.
00:57:02
Speaker
Pat Riley is king down there. and Whatever he says goes. If you can't handle what's going on in Milwaukee when things are bad, you damn sure ain't going to be able to handle it down in South Beach when it's bad. Well, I mean, you may be able to handle the view, but Giannis is a family man.
00:57:16
Speaker
yeah He's a family man. So, I think you've been talking to Stephen A too much. That's what I think. warm weather I mean, go ahead. Oh, sorry, BJ. on we talking about he wants go big This is the same dude after he won champion after he won MVP at NBA Finals, took those trophies and went to the drive-thru at Chick-fil-A.
00:57:39
Speaker
This is that guy. Like, just just look for the best situation. If it's about winning, look for that situation. If it's about you, you're off the court, like, then, you know, look for that situation. But just be clear in what you want.
00:57:52
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and And as long as you can live with the results, you know, who am I to judge? Yeah, ah look, I mean, I know Milwaukee is probably a pretty cold place. I've never been, but I assume how far north it is, it's pretty cold in the winter, at least. I understand Miami is a very nice place to be, not if you're a family man, though. ah But if you're not and you're single like me, it's a very, very nice place to be. um That being said, i think you need to look for your, BG said, your best situation. Now, could that still be in Miami? I think Miami has a good, ah at least base of a team that they can build into. Now, granted, you have to be a Broncos.
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I mean, not trip not Trips J. Not my brother, Jaime Jaquez Jr., who may be the next big might have to. No, I don't know. I can't. I can't. No, I can't. Nope. I can't have Giannis and Triple J, next Trips J next to each other? No, we ain't running.
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We running. Yeah, had this so go somewhere else. I don't know. Give him Kyle Lowry. Is he still there? I don't even know i that cal lowy where Where are you still there? You want Kyle Lowry from two years to three years? I don't even he's in the league no more. But no, I can see it just because Pat Riley can get done if he wants to. I know you mentioned he's missed a couple times, and he has missed a little bit over the past few years. And yeah, you're...
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You got to win, like BG said, or he's going to hold your butt to the fire as he did with LeBron. That's why they didn't get 6, 7, 8, 9 as he did with Jimmy Butler, so on and so forth. So, yeah, you're going to run into a buzzsaw that is Pat Riley. Giannis, you got to be willing to put up with that. But, I mean, if Pat Riley really wants him and Giannis is down to go, I could see it happening.
00:59:39
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So we'll see what happens. Can T Giannis be politically correct? Select somewhere you have a balance of family and basketball. In fact, I mean, again, Utah, that's just, a I mean, we're still talking about that, but I mean, that that that that could be a team as well. Again, what do you give up kind of thing, but you know. No, it's easy. i'm I'm giving you Ace Bailey. I'm giving you line marketing. I'm not giving to you two. I'm giving you future first rounders.
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Okay. And I'm still drafting A.J. DeBansa. okay well you keep it castor too it's a great point though yeah i don't have to i if i can give you three future first keeping this and i'm giving you the second pick from last year and lorry marketing to make the money work that's that's solid i feel i feel that's a solid offer and And the thing with the Milwaukee side too, the a lot of people saying it's like the title the hero thing. Like that's where he's from. So that seems like the easy choice.
01:00:31
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And then I, but I, I still, I feel like a lot of the mock trades with Giannis and like the heat or even like the Jalen Brown and the, and the heat thing, like, It's it's just giving up like Andrew Wiggins, Davion Mitchell, like defensive players that Giannis would need. um and And I don't know if Bam out of Bayou is as reliable as a stretch five, specifically for three-point shooting, as somebody that would need to be with Giannis. That would be something too. So again, i'm i um I'm on board. If it's not Minnesota, I would love to see that Utah situation. I just feel like no matter what they come up with, they could they could make something where you're like, okay, that's good.
01:01:09
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Yeah. Yeah. All right. Cool. well Hey, everybody. We really appreciate y'all tuning in. We will be back in a couple of weeks. We're going to a full season review, talk the draft and some other things. That'll be that first week of July. So we got talk about what, yes.
01:01:24
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One more. Does Spike deserve a ring? Oh, I mean, yeah. Yeah, at the very least. I don't know if it's a rumor or two. I know they got a bunch of celebrities like Chalamet who was partying with them in the locker room, but he ain't even been there like three years. All right, now I know you got the other long timers, Tracy Morgan, Ben Stiller, stuff like that, but spike Spike has been the ultimate fan. He's always wearing the colors. He's always talking Knicks even when he's not there. You see him at every game. He don't just show up for the playoffs. Yes, that man better get a fucking word.
01:01:57
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Yeah, straight up. i mean, dan well how much how much does it cost you to give him a ring? and Extra
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$20,000. That man brings you millions of promotions every year just by sitting his face in your stands.
01:02:11
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James Dolan is a dumbass, though, so he probably messed that up anyways, too. um James, don't stop screwing the Knicks up. ah I like it. Keep screwing them up right. Anyways, two weeks from now, we'll be back. Hopefully have the other brothers with us as well. Shout out to the Baseline and NBA podcast, Warren Shaw, Cal Lee. Y'all tune in. Tap in with them, our brothers as well. And as well, Unfair Sports, Jay. Tap in with him as well. He wasn't able to make it with us tonight. And as well, Mel and Man Down Sports. Y'all tap in with them as well. Shout out to everybody. Desmond, let them know where they can find you.
01:02:42
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Absolutely. Always a pleasure to join you guys and talk ball at DesenPow underscore Twitter, Instagram at MidPostPod. ah Same platforms. Also at DesenPow underscore on TikTok. Of course, the 19 Media Group YouTube channel. Shout out to my guys. Shout out to the home team and everybody over there.
01:03:02
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um Every episode drops you on Tuesday. um Obviously, it's the offseason now, so I'll probably be bouncing around with different topics. But for the most part, 19 Media Group YouTube channel to be updated and see any uploads for that.
01:03:17
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There you go. 19 Media Group salute to our partners out there. We appreciate y'all. Bobby G, let them know where they can find you. in the winner's circle but if i'm not there can catch me right there youtube at game time underscore 216 at uh youtube at audible sports box or at the audible podcast sports guy one of them man search the audible podcast i need you i i'm gonna need you to know your social media handle come on now disappoint me like that or uh you know thursdays every thursday with the record sports crew record radio on yeah espn jacksonville 6 90 a.m from 4 to 6 p.m eastern time
01:03:54
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so Yes, sir. Here with the homie, sports professor Omar. and Shout out to OG and Anobi, my new hero. Saved my steak dinner.
01:04:05
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We going sizzling. We going sizzling. We sizzling. We going hell's kitchen. That's where we're going. Really going. Very nice. ah Bobby G, I decided i'm going to do a professor seminar mentee tonight. ah Want to join me?
01:04:21
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I got you. I got you. Check this dinner sit situation. Desmond, you are more than welcome to join us as well if you'd like. I don't know if you talk more than NBA. We're going to talk baseball, hockey, UFC, all kinds of stuff. So you're more than welcome to join us. I can send you the link, but I don't know if you do that.
01:04:36
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Okay, I appreciate the invite. i i I haven't watched baseball in so long, to be honest. But i know I know you said this in the past. I can definitely jump on the hip-hop conversation, though. We're definitely going to do that soon. No, we're going to get a show together soon on that one. All right, my brother. Well, salute. Appreciate you coming on. Hey, y'all check me and BG out at 7.30. He has to go check dinner. I need to go get it myself a microwave burrito because I'm single and a bachelor and i have no food in my house. So that's what I'm going eat.
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We'll see you in 20 minutes at Ball and Buds. Thank y'all for tuning in.