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WWE WrestleMania 42 Preview: John Cena, Cody Rhodes, Roman Reigns, CM Punk, Seth Rollins, Randy Orton
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WWE WrestleMania 42 Preview ft. Sports Professor + Pro Wrestling Insiders:
Rec Room's AP on IG @TrainerAP @TheeRecRoomSportsHub
Audible Sports' Bobby G on YouTube @TheAudiblePodcast
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Transcript
Introduction and Setting the Stage
00:00:00
Speaker
You can't pretend. Now get ready for the show.
00:00:17
Speaker
Yo, yo, yo, what up? What up? What up? Friends back at it again. Another edition of Ball. What? You just saw me what? Two minutes ago.
00:00:28
Speaker
No, you didn't. That must have been a clone. that must You must have seen the alien me. Where was I at? ya I was talking NBA. Oh, you know, the sports professor. He's a pretty smart guy. He gets around. ah Yes. You just saw me on the NBA podcast with Bobby G. Howley and Desmond Powell. Shout out to Cal Lee from baseline and NBA podcast. And shout out to D pal from the mid post podcast. post on Instagram at 19 Media Group. Thank you, gentlemen, for joining us. That being said, this is a whole different episode. We are going to get into WrestleMania. Yes, Las Vegas Allegiant Stadium. And two of us, three of us, excuse me, will be there. Well, one of us lives there, so he's already there. Two of us will be going, and another two bums will be staying in Oklahoma doing nothing but sitting at
Guest Introductions and Podcast Promotions
00:01:16
Speaker
their house. they Without a further ado, let me bring on my all-star cast of characters.
00:01:20
Speaker
First of all, you will see him tomorrow night on Total Evisceration, Hot Take Jake versus the Sports Professor. If you have not seen this show yet, it is the hottest show on the interwebs. You must catch it tomorrow night, 8 p.m. Eastern. Hot Take Jake. What's good, my brother?
00:01:40
Speaker
I'm ready to kick your ass before you go party it up in Vegas. That's what I'm ready for. That's too bad that that's not what's going to happen. It's going to be the opposite. I'm catching an ass whooping. I'm catching a body. And I'm going to go get some tattoo tears in Vegas, you dumb bastard. All right, I love you. We're moving on. You know i love you. All right, moving it on. We bring it on to our next brother. He's going be joining me in Vegas at WrestleMania. We got tickets and an amazing sight line. We're going to be partying it up for my birthday weekend. My brother from IOW Sports Network, Wild Car. ah What's up? for What up, what up, what up, what up, man? Hey, the quality of the show was doing good until you put Jake's under the ass face on it. I know, I know. um He always always ruins everything.
00:02:31
Speaker
I mean, it was bad enough he was already a Broncos fan, but it's... Chill out, Mark, chill out. I know, I know. getting it Let them know where they can find you, Mark.
00:02:42
Speaker
Hey, man, know what it is, man. You can find your boy on that Twitter, Casey Wildcard Mar. And, of course, most importantly, man, top it up with me and the fellas at ILW Sports Network. Of course, all social social media platforms, ILW Sports Network, the YouTube channel. And, hey, another guy that you'll see in a second, my other partner, podcast brother in crime, that is Audible Bobby G. We here every Thursday and Friday doing
WrestleMania Anticipation and Storylines
00:03:08
Speaker
things. So y'all know what it is, man. Appreciate y'all.
00:03:11
Speaker
Yes, sir. Thank you for making the introduction easier on me. As he said, from Audible Sports, his partner in crime, my brother, Bobby G. What's good, brother? Chilling, chilling, man. Hey, let's get this wrestling talk going, man. What's good? All right. Go wrestling.
00:03:27
Speaker
I know Wildcard Mar introduced the Audible channels. Would you like to introduce your other channels, my friend? Yeah, catch me Mondays and Wednesdays on a Game Time 216 with the homie Big Mike. Shout out for the man Cave. And ah also catch that on Network 216, man. Shout out to all my podcast brothers over there. And then, of course, on Thursdays, if you want to hear my beautiful voice, check me out with the brothers from the Rec Room Sports Hub on ESPN 690 AM Jacksonville.
00:03:57
Speaker
oo I love it every time I hear it, bro. Every time I hear it, it gets me so fucking hyped that you're all on ESPN. That's crazy. I love it. That's awesome. So shout out to you and your other partner in crime from Rec Room Sports.
00:04:12
Speaker
Hey, saving the best for last, certainly not the least. That boy, AP. What's good, brother? Hey, I'm just happy to be here. ah That's for last.
00:04:26
Speaker
Ain't nothing good coming out of Oklahoma. I should have saved Bobby G for last. You see what I said, Bobby G? I was like, you're getting AP. AP brings great knowledge to the game, but he's not going to be very lively all the time. See, and just like the Mets, you squandered it. Congratulations, Omar. Let them know where can find you, brother.
00:04:48
Speaker
Yeah, at April is 30 on X, TikTok, you know YouTube probably if I ever start putting stuff on there. um And then, of course, as Bobby mentioned, Rec Room Sports every Thursday afternoon ESPN 690 in Jacksonville.
00:05:07
Speaker
And plus, we also do Lock It In our betting sports show every Saturday with myself, Tanner Dawson. It's Scott Cope. Shout out to those two guys as well.
00:05:17
Speaker
Salute to Tanner, Scott, and the whole Let's Talk Sports crew. I've been rocking with them since I first started streaming. Salute to them. And salute to everybody watching. Make sure you subscribe to Ball and Buds, B-A-L-L-A-N-D-B-U-D-S, and QR code up there at the top. It'll take you to our link tree. You can find all of our social medias there. Subscribe on YouTube is the most important. You can also follow on Instagram.
00:05:39
Speaker
That being said, without a further ado, let us kick this bad boy off, shall we? WrestleMania season! WrestleMania! All right, no copyrights here, but that's okay. We were jamming on the old WrestleMania song. If you know, you know, like the kids say. But let's start it off. I want to know, let's start this off as we do with a a general topic. I want to know what is your best storyline leading up to WrestleMania season? Who is your top wrestler, whatever it is you want to
Debates on Wrestling Streaks and Celebrity Impact
00:06:10
Speaker
do. Just give us whatever is your favorite thing that has led up these past few months since Royal Rumble to WrestleMania. Hot Take Jake, kick us off, brother.
00:06:19
Speaker
Well, I think we know the the the game of the year is going to be Obafemi. And boy, I will be pissed if Triple H tries to mess this up. He better not the way he did LA Knight.
00:06:32
Speaker
I better not see him do it. But Obafemi is the face of WrestleMania right now. This is the biggest match in the in the both nights. I think this will change history. He has a chance to be even better than the Beast Brock Lesnar.
00:06:47
Speaker
And Brock Lesnar is doing a service by giving him the win. They need to let him win. Just like Brock got that W that he should have never got at WrestleMania 30.
00:06:59
Speaker
It's the same thing. You need to give this win to Obafemi. Guys, we saw him cut a great promo last night on Raw. I was so proud of him. always was worried. He did cut a good promo. I was worried about his promo skills, but was pretty good. i was worried, pretty good but he did show up and he showed out.
00:07:19
Speaker
And he had Paul Heyman's face looking like a perturbed idiot, scared as shit. But that's fine. That's completely fine. So, yes, Obafemi, Brock Lesnar will be the match of this WrestleMania, and I cannot wait.
00:07:35
Speaker
I have to agree. That's one of my two matches I'm looking forward to. I'm definitely looking forward to the ladder match as well because I told Marr I've never seen a ladder match in person, so I want to see that in person. But that Obafemi, Brock Lesnar is going to tear the roof off when the ruler comes.
00:07:52
Speaker
fuck. Everybody is making that damn noise. Everybody's moving their freaking freaking arms every time. Yeah, yeah. No doubt about that. Have you all ever seen a guy come up so fast and get so over so quickly?
00:08:10
Speaker
Nah, man, when he won in NXT and won that championship so quickly, I was like, where did this dude come from? But you look at his stature, you look at the guys you know Vince McMahon in previous years likes, Triple A likes, they like the very muscular, big dudes, right? The Brock Lesnar's, the Roman Reigns. So it's no surprise to me, but that he came this fast and is already main eventing, or not main eventing, but starring in a WrestleMania when he was just in a and it. And shout out to Trick Williams too, and Carmelo Hayes, by the way, should be there. i hope somebody has that as their storyline, him getting screwed over. But anyways, shout out Rock Chalk.
00:08:46
Speaker
Appreciate you tuning in. Everybody who loves true crime, go subscribe at Rock Chalk, the best true crime podcast on YouTube. Shout out, my lady. Hope you and your husband husband are doing well in the family. Thank you. She always makes really cool songs. All the intros and stuff here makes them for me. So super cool for her Hey, Bobby G, what's your storyline or or a wrestler match? What do you got leading up to WrestleMania?
00:09:09
Speaker
And my storyline is very simple. See, I'm a Midwestern guy. So, you know, you're in the Midwest, learn to talk that talk. And there's one individual in his on these cards that ah he talks that talk and he walks the walk. And he walks into the lemon pepper stepper. So my storyline is the takeover.
00:09:26
Speaker
Of the NXT, not just over, but remember we got yeah Mr. Lemon Pepper himself going for a championship and we got my boy bouncy also going for title. The young guns from NXT have come over there making a name for themselves, yeah but it's all about whoop that track track.
00:09:49
Speaker
Yeah, I like it. yo Watch Tricks step all over him. And I have a question for y'all since you already brought up Oprah and Brock.
00:10:01
Speaker
do you Do we think that I'm not going put it all on Triple H's shoulders. Do we think the WWA to whoever's making the decision has the cojones has the cojones to let this be the beginning of a new WrestleMania streak?
00:10:18
Speaker
and Oh, an Oba Febby streak or a Trick Williams streak? No, Oba. To challenge the Taker streak? I think you should. I would. Why not?
00:10:29
Speaker
i would you Could this be win one of? I like that. I like it. I like it. Something? I like it. I'll be disappointed by SummerSlam. He's not going after one of those world titles. I'd be very very disappointed.
00:10:45
Speaker
i agree. He should have a title at the end of this year, if not anything more than maybe the even the U.S. title. He should be headlining WrestleMania next year. du get No doubt about it. yep Yep. Him, hip he should be headlining WrestleMania next year. You might even see Trick Williams, possibly, because I know one thing, Mar, and I told you this already. When we are in that stadium and Trick Williams comes out and that song comes on, dog, I am going to be cranking, son. I'm going to just be like, argh.
00:11:18
Speaker
Here's the thing. Also, keep
Wrestlers' Personas and Creative Critiques
00:11:20
Speaker
an eye out. Keep an eye out. We might have a double turn in that match, too. Hey, save that for when we talk about the match. But give us your storyline now. What do you got?
00:11:29
Speaker
So for me, um I know this match hasn't really had much time to build. It's only had been up been building for two weeks. But I think it's going to be the match that steals the show, Seth Rollins and Gunther.
00:11:40
Speaker
I think both of those guys are great. Both of those guys are great in-ring technicians, great you know ring generals, so to speak. It's going to be the match that steals the show for me.
00:11:52
Speaker
So I'm excited. i yeah I mean, you're not wrong. They're two of the best wrestlers in the world for a reason because they're good at their craft. The one thing that worries me about this is the clash of styles in that match because I don't know how well they're going to be able to work together with the different work rates and different work styles that they have. But I hope to be disappointed. I mean, if you see or more if you've seen Gunther in NXT, you know he could work with smaller guys like like a Pete Dunne and ah and to Tyler Bate. So he's, he's had, especially if you go back and watch his matches with the Ilya Dragunov, my God, you want to talk about hard hitting.
00:12:28
Speaker
Fine. But, but do you think Seth Rollins is going to let Guthrie get off some shit like that? highly doubt that he's going to be in the back. Like, look, you better, you better lay up on them, on them slaps that you give me tonight. You better lay the hell up. I'm the star this, of this damn organization. You ain't nothing Guthrie. You ain't Rollins yet. That's what I would tell him if I was backstage. You better go light for him. You're going to have a bloody chest. You're going to have a bloody chest after the night, after wrestling. Bro, if I ever had to wrestle Gunther and he bloodied my chest, I swear when I got to the back, I'm giving him an infiltration while he's in the shower. I'm going to hit him with like a fire extinguisher or something, just knock his ass out. I don't know why had to be in the shower. That was kind of weird. Pause on that. Walk on, Mark. Help me out before I get myself in trouble.
00:13:15
Speaker
I don't know why that had to be in the shower, but it was. Oh, I don't know. where yeah you're cloaking that But OK, but no could going into mania, man. Hey, man, I'm just going to say it as I told Otis last night. I think speed has the possibility to probably go to the best celebrity spot to ever do.
00:13:39
Speaker
it in the wwe ring like i'm talking about he might surpass logan paul he might surpass bad bunny just one crack at it first time at it i just think if you really look at his content the athleticism that he possesses is top tier elite shit it really is so um and in order to really do this you gotta be gotta have some athleticism and uh i think his athleticism translates over to wwe probably a lot smoother than people really think and i think he's actually probably just his performance alone
00:14:17
Speaker
in the match is going to be, i think it's going to be top-tier celebrity, ah you know, performance. and Like, topping Logan Paul and Bad Bunny. so Does Logan Paul still count, though? he's good well He's a wrestler now. Well, no, but he's but he started as a celebrity, so you still got to give him the props that he came from not being a wrestler. Yeah, i'm I'm talking about when he just made his celebrity spots. and Now, Logan Paul, the wrestler, he's a wrestler now. Now, sure. Now,
00:14:45
Speaker
his first few moments when he got onto the scene uh same with bad bunny had a couple of matches jelly roll you know all i'm saying is the bar is not too high for speed to really climb especially not jelly roll ah yeah ohs been that has been a nothing burger yeah that i just want jelly roll to do a dive off the top rope just once No, I prefer that they keep Jelly Roll and Pat McAfee. Flying Jelly Roll? you No, and to be honest, Pat McAfee, you can put him on the celebrity list. He's actually done pretty well himself. He didn't do too bad. Sure. they didn't yeah with Adam Cole, that was a pretty solid match.
00:15:27
Speaker
But no, i'm I think Speed got got a chance to steal the show, man. yeah And as I said with Mar last night, I don't necessarily agree. I think Logan Paul was probably the best.
00:15:37
Speaker
He came in and did it really well that first match. But what I will say, and I did say this with Mar last night, is that I Show Speed has put more into it in terms of, I believe, like engulfing himself in the role, like everything with Dan Housen and being cursed, like he plays into it so well. And I think that's because he's a true fan I think that him being a real fan of wrestling has helped him to kind of you know play the actor role of what he needs to do to really get this and be and interjected into a match so quickly let's not let's not and and a match that honestly you look at the rest of those wrestlers in there I mean you got some some heavy hitters in the wrestling game in that match that he's going to be in there with so he's going to have to prove his his worth
00:16:19
Speaker
Let's not forget, if you've seen his live streams, you've seen his YouTube channel, he actually got trained by Fit Finley and Randy Orton. Oh, I didn't know that. He's actually had some time in the ring being trained by of the best. So he knows how to take a chair shot. He knows how to take, you know, obviously. I'm going to say, Fit Finley, he knows how to take all them things. He knows how to take. You go back to the Royal Rumble a couple years ago, he knows how to take a spear.
00:16:47
Speaker
So. good good I agree with think Speed's I thought he was going to be dead. He was going to be dead after that. No, it and and that's funny that y'all say this because of me and Omar. I was like, oh, I got a feeling he's been just getting trained for a minute behind the scenes. yeah Because once it's something about with like...
00:17:11
Speaker
Remember when we all first did our first podcast on somebody's live stream and you was like, damn man,
Storytelling in Wrestling and Production Controversies
00:17:18
Speaker
that felt good. Like he caught you caught the bug. It's almost it' similar to the same thing with any other That was my pops last night.
00:17:26
Speaker
You get on this, you do something different that that you've been wanting to do and it gets you out to your comfort zone and you catch the bug and then he like, damn, it got me. So I'm pretty sure that shit, that wrestling bug, there's a lot of wrestlers say it all the time.
00:17:41
Speaker
That wrestling bug will get your ass. And he's had an actual match. yeah he match yeah He had a LFG match against, ah what's his name? listen ah Roxanne Perez's boyfriend.
00:17:53
Speaker
yeah oh did he Yeah, he did. i remember i actually remember watching that. He did pretty well. He didn't win, I don't think, but he actually did pretty well in that match. yeah ah who Who is the young lad that is so lucky?
00:18:05
Speaker
ah chip What's his name? ja his voice i can I can't remember his name. but he will It doesn't matter. He will forever be known as Roxanne Perez's boyfriend until further notice. He got little swag, too. He might make it to the roster in in next Three, four years. well no no he'll He'll be at NXT soon because I think NXT starting to go through. a got They're about to start calling up so some more names. Like what we saw with Trick and Oba.
00:18:32
Speaker
i don't And I'm not saying like right after mania, but soon because I don't think you keep Blake Monroe down in the NXT too much longer. No, you've got to bring her up. Yeah, she's ready. And especially since I don't know why they put her back with the, and sorry to get off topic, I don't know why they put her back with the North American Championship. I don't know why you put her in the main one, but all right, because think she's the main event. So that's it.
00:18:59
Speaker
So, yeah I'm a smoke. It's not Roxanne Perez's boyfriend. It's Maxine Dupree's boyfriend. Oh, yeah yeah yeah. And his name is Anthony Luke. Oh, yeah. Anthony Luke? Yeah.
00:19:11
Speaker
wo the do with you Real quick, so with y'all saying speed shows out, does Austin Theory take a backdoor, back burner? what he He's probably the worst wrestler in the past. I just think we're saying that I Show Speed is going to be the best of celebrities. I don't think that we're saying that the other wrestlers are going do bad.
00:19:29
Speaker
but But hold on. Why why shouldt why so much hate on on Theory? He's actually a solid wrestler, man. Come on, Mar. Come on, Mar. What are we doing here today, man? He's all right. What are we doing today? I like the music. I like the music.
00:19:44
Speaker
He's got no promo skills either. He's had opportunity after opportunity and has failed with it. Come on, man. It's true, though. That is true. They set him up to be the big thing, and he's nothing. Now, I know that might – He had that great little feud, that great little IC title feud a couple years back, but – yeah once mcmmanon Once McMahon got tied up, that was it for him. Triple is like that. What was it that Roman told him? Daddy's not here to save you now? Woo, sure did. but That's my thing. Y'all know when Vince has a certain...
00:20:18
Speaker
person he wants to push. he doesn't care about the crowds reaction. He's like, he stubbornly. He's stubbornly. and So that wasn't true in theory's fault.
00:20:29
Speaker
He can't make the crowd like you like You either you do or you don't. Like, you got rock with you or I just don't. You got to give me something like. Like I told Omar last night, I i didn't like Roman Reigns. I thought he was a chump because Vince, again, was trying to give me something didn't want.
00:20:49
Speaker
And it wasn't until he got with Paul and did the, you know, tribal chief head of the table. I was like, oh, I kind of dig that. had swag. He had an attitude.
00:21:00
Speaker
um And it kind of, I was like, I can relate to that. It was like, he's like, nah, man, i I'm doing this. And I'm like, okay, I feel that. What's holding theory back right now? And there's a lot of shit holding WWE back. Promo work. I mean, everything. yeah How I see it, we could probably be the better creative team than what the hell they got going on right now. Especially on SmackDown, my God. Yeah, what the hell you want to start? Their creative is trash these days, bro.
00:21:35
Speaker
They are writing storylines that they've been writing for four or five years now, bro. like Let's get some new work in here. ah I want to say something, but I'm going to get us canceled, so I'm probably not going to say it. i a so It's a late night hour, my friend. You go ahead as long as it's not something crazy crazy. I mean, the head writer. I was going to say the head writer is female. so and Wowzer! Holy shit! a you know I told you. i told you. You said go ahead. now now naton see did This is how you end up in drought. No. You know
00:22:18
Speaker
got relax, man. I'm going to sip on my feet. That's great. that jacob i would like to I would like to inform the audience that I was given permission by one Omar Sports professor. folks So please do not blame me for And that' that's only because I wanted you to get me out of trouble for my WNBA argument the other week, that Jake. and i Where I said if I was LeBron James, kid nothing I said if I was LeBron James, I'd take Clark and the WNBA players to get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich.
00:22:52
Speaker
Jesus Christ. You believe that shit? You believe shit? You have the straightest face. See, but I was joking, and I said I was joking beforehand. You didn't. You meant it with all the fervor in your heart that a woman can't write wrestling. What's wrong with you, AP? That's sad, man. I did not mean it, brother.
00:23:08
Speaker
ah ah ah Rock Chalk, what do you think? You're a lady. Do you agree that women cannot be in the room? I will say, though, bunant Mondays haven't been bad. she's I think she's the lead writer only for Monday night, which, you know, Mondays haven't been bad. I don't know who's the lead writer on SmackDown, but whoever it is needs to come up with something.
00:23:30
Speaker
Like, come on now. i mean, honestly, you need the diverse voices because we've seen that room. And let's be honest, a lot of times it's just white males. You know, that's – Let Paul Heyman run it, for God's sake. That's what I want. Let Paul Heyman write everything, bro. Just let him put his hands on – Make it ECW again. Make it ECW again.
00:23:52
Speaker
Bro, whatever he does turns to gold. Just let him write the whole damn thing, bro. For real. Okay, so, but at the same time, at the same time, in the same breath, you still also got to look at the wrestlers. Because you still, like, for instance, like, I think the writers should only give you, like, an outlier, like, some structure. Some bullet points. Yeah, some outlines. Yeah, huge shape, an outline.
00:24:19
Speaker
Get these talking points. it Like, you say hey like yeah to you're in the big leagues. well You got to at least, you should be. Come up, yeah evolve your own story. I agree. Like, like like come on. and like like we came It's almost like we can't always put it all on the on the coach.
00:24:38
Speaker
You know, bill got you got to show the hell up. Looking at you, Pat McAfee. Which, by the way, I think all of us are pretty fed up that this build around Cody and Randy Orton has nothing to do with their actual history and more to do with ticket sales. Which makes no sense. They don have like history.
00:25:02
Speaker
So they have a written in 15-year history, and you're talking about ticket sales and bringing in Pat McAfee, who's not needed the storyline? They could have brought in the legacy storyline. They could have gave us, making us go on YouTube and look up how they were friends in legacy. I'm telling you, they had a faction back then.
00:25:20
Speaker
You could have built off of it. You could have made an envious type. I'm telling you, the writing is poor. Pat McAfee looks like a piece of trash. Jelly roll looks like he he just was a but a donut that just lost all the jelly out of it. Fuck out of here, man. I'm done with this shit.
00:25:37
Speaker
what By the way, quick aside, why does no Zempick make all these people look like damn, like they done lost their soul? and They got to work out as well.
00:25:48
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. What happens is you lose your muscle. Man, that's that's not a good look. I mean, Charles Barkley doesn't look good to me now. hey I'm sorry. Put some of that weight back on, bro.
00:25:59
Speaker
All I need to grab a pencil. and Y'all need to write down the date and the time. And this is the first time in my ever loving life that I have ever agreed with two things that hot Jake Jake and the fat stuff.
WrestleMania Critiques and Match Predictions
00:26:20
Speaker
ah Damn right. Come on, man. My man is two for damn two. He was right um over Femi situation. He was 100% right. All right. Brock Lesnar, you had your time as the beast. All right. It's time for the Rula.
00:26:39
Speaker
It's what kind of time, all right? Yeah, we getting real BET up in WWE right now. I don't give a damn. time, damn it. You got some money bigger, better than you, Brock Lesnar. He's been rag-dolling your big ass.
00:26:54
Speaker
And don't get me wrong, Brock Lesnar, I appreciate you because you know how to sell a big match. My dog, you know how to sell a big match. And you're doing your part. But what I'm saying is...
00:27:12
Speaker
So did I hear you say correctly that there is a little bit more diversity, we shall say, in our in our wrestling come-up right now?
00:27:24
Speaker
Let me see what Uncle Lakers has to say about that. Here it is. My test results. Can you hear heart beating? Oh, the white man's science is amazing, ain't it? Oh, no.
00:27:36
Speaker
This can't be it. It says I'm 102% African with a 2% margin of error. Why, Lord?
00:27:48
Speaker
Why, Lord? Why?
00:27:53
Speaker
Anyways. I just like using that soundbite because it's hilarious. oh um we need hey Jake been cooking tonight. He's absolutely right. the back McAfee and Tellyro was absolutely no need for this deal. What the hell we doing? This is this is trash. like like like I'm kind of upset that this is the mania that we are going to.
00:28:19
Speaker
um what What is making up for it is one. It's all right. It is. eight year And two, I get to meet up with the bros. So other than that, that's the only good thing about this situation. Otherwise, some of this stuff is kind of piss poor. I agree.
00:28:36
Speaker
andrew like like well Jake was right. It's not the greatest card. that are go you and I think we can agree. Like literally the night one main event should either be live and Stephanie or open Brock.
00:28:47
Speaker
It should have been open Brock. What are we doing? You got if if you are having talks about a match and literally is getting talked about people who don't watch wrestling, that's called something that is getting the casuals involved.
00:29:03
Speaker
Hello makes more viewership. And mean you're putting it on free ESPN TV. Free? What are we doing? oh What are we doing, bro?
00:29:18
Speaker
What are we doing? well yeah I agree completely with you. Let's take a little bit look at this then. Take a look at some of the main ah matches here on the card. Hold on, Mara. I'll but unblock your face here in a second. My apologies.
00:29:33
Speaker
You find the banner. There it is. um Okay. So here we go. These are the the main matches. We can go through the other ones as well. We'll run through some, just some pick them quickly, but this is really what the card, or at least in my opinion, are going to be the best matches on this two day event. So you have, first of all, up at the top, as we we just talked about,
00:29:54
Speaker
saturday Saturday night's main event of the evening, Cody Rhodes, Randy Orton. We just talked about Pat McAfee and what a horrible build. This has been not going in on their true storyline that they should have done. And we'll go through all of these matches individually. ah We also got...
00:30:11
Speaker
ah Tiffany Vakur and Liv Morgan there as well on Saturday night. As well, you've got Drew McIntyre and Jacob Fatu in what should be a good no-holds-barred match. They're going to beat the crap out of each other. You also have the three-on-three match we talked about with I Show Speed, Austin Theory, Logan Paul versus the Usos in L.A. Night.
00:30:31
Speaker
You also have the Brock and Oba, which ah clearly was was mentioned as should have been the main event on Saturday instead of Sunday. But it is on there on Sunday along with that ladder match with the six participants, Penta, ah Bouncy Javon, Rey Mysterio,
00:30:48
Speaker
um JD McDonough, which makes no sense to me why the hell he's in this match. Just put Carmelo Hayes in there, please, for the love of God. um And Dragon Lee, ah which would be a perfect place for Carmelo. You can still put – you can put seven people on a ladder match. Ain't like we ain't done it. It's a damn shame Carmelo Hayes ain't on this card.
00:31:06
Speaker
And then finally you got CM Punk, Roman Reigns to close out the weekend there on Sunday. My apologies, A&P. I didn't realize I was – No, no, you're fine. In the bottom there. ah So, um again, this is ah the the main matches we have. We'll go through each of these. But first, I want to go through the the rest. I just wanted to give a quick look um right now. But I did want to ask, before we do get to the Pick'ems, we talked about this. We talked about the build and how how it's been bad. Does anyone else have thoughts on um on the the build to WrestleMania before we get into any of these matches?
00:31:43
Speaker
Jaden Rhea has been built awfully too. Like that's another match where should be more excited. Pre-challenge. I not going to do that match at all. Okay.
00:31:57
Speaker
Again, it's on SmackDown. What do you expect? The writing on SmackDown has been terrible. i didn't I didn't understand. I've been whooping y'all two bitches' asses for months, and going to beat you into just joining me, and and let's beat up Rhea. Look,
00:32:16
Speaker
give me logic. Make it make sense. That's all. Mm-hmm. Because I ain't never been one to be buddy buddies with anybody that's been walking my ass. No, I need to get my i get back.
00:32:28
Speaker
like It would have made more sense i it if it was Nia and Lash instead of... the other two, like it would have made more sense to me. Jade is on live on the Joe Budden podcast saying she was begging to your face.
00:32:43
Speaker
No, what whenever she she just was on an episode, it was about a week and a half ago. She was begging to to to fight Charlotte. My bad, Mar. She was begging to fight Charlotte Flair. You could tell in the interview that she was not even wanting to see Rhea.
00:32:58
Speaker
She wanted Charlotte. She didn't want Rhea. She wanted Charlotte Flair. and And you can tell by the build that she's just not motivated for this. i'm goha but Well, because her and Sean got some some kind of like real cool friendship that they got going on. They really respect each other.
00:33:17
Speaker
so Wait, are they true friends in real life? Oh, I thought that was a joke. They put their lives on all they social media. Jade was celebrating on her birthday is like this past couple weeks ago. And what the hell happened to kayfabe?
00:33:32
Speaker
Okay. I don't need ah Jay Cargill putting her face up to Charlotte's ass. Okay. I want to know that y'all are fighting. all right. I don't need to see y'all. She did. They were an Instagram photo and she's holding Charlotte's ass with her face like right here. No, y'all supposed to hate each other. Listen here. Old timer. Listen here. oh I mean, I'm not mad at at the visual. I like the visual. Hey, old timer.
00:33:53
Speaker
All right. You get, this is 2026. All right. Kayfabe. Kayfabe. K-Fabe died the moment that social media started. I mean, that's true. K-Fabe died at the curtain call, if you want to be honest.
00:34:07
Speaker
And to a a certain extent, but not to the extent that a you can still keep shit under wraps. And you said you still had the whole Attitude Era past kayfabe. So you still were able to keep shit under wraps. it's It's all this shit. Everybody got these phones. It's still real to me. It's still real to me. I was going to say, Sean. Netflix. What's the show called again? Unreal.
00:34:35
Speaker
Yeah, they they do it themselves. so why i know my name ra like they really are They really are. That's bad. I don't like that show. Kayfabe never existed, man.
00:34:46
Speaker
I mean, at one point in time, you would never see. If you thought Undertaker was dead, you're moron. K-Fave never existed. That's fine. But you know what? You weren't going to see Ming and Hulk Hogan hanging out. I guarantee you that because they were told don't even ride separate separate planes and buses so you don't get near each other.
00:35:06
Speaker
even even Even bad guys have friends. like Cut it out. cut it out you're worse now Your worst enemy has a friend somewhere. Shout out to Dom and Liv for keeping K-Fave alive.
00:35:18
Speaker
yeah they've never They've never actually really kissed. Cut it out. Their relationship is 17 years and their tongues have never touched. wow i say I saw lips touch plenty of times. Come on, you do that with with your freaking kid. Have a good day. now now i mean, he is married, so.
00:35:39
Speaker
Yeah, and it's a respect thing, which is cool. but So you don't keep killing Carmelo. Word on the street is going on his honeymoon because he just got married recently. so You're telling me that your name is Carmelo Hayes and you would rather schedule your wedding in the middle of WrestleMania instead of going to... No, you can move that shit a week or two. He didn't rather. He did. He did.
00:36:04
Speaker
He did. i would rather he did it I guarantee you, had he had a spot in WrestleMania, he'd have told her ass we're going to get married in two weeks. it'slonny jones she Go look at his wife. he's married, Jones? Married.
00:36:18
Speaker
Marie. Okay. There you go. Congratulations to you all and your beautiful nuptials. ah My buddy Chris Haines says Cody versus MJF was more entertaining than Cody versus Orton. You got an argument there, to be honest. um By the way, everybody, what did we think? Did anybody watch a Dynasty by chance? Nope. Anybody?
00:36:37
Speaker
nope No one. Oh, man, it was a really good paper. A.W. pay-per-views have been doing a lot better lately, I must say. But they did have Kenny Omega and MJF in ah the main event of the evening.
00:36:51
Speaker
Kenny o Omega was defeated by MJF. I didn't think that was the right call. I think they should have let the title change hands. I don't really think MJF ever needs a title.
00:37:02
Speaker
um he's He's good without it. His promo skills and his work in the ring are excellent enough to not need a title. But, you know, it is what it is. They really value MJF. Tony Khan does. So no one did see this, though. OK, all right. I thought more people would have saw it. There's a kayfabe right there. Like MJF never breaks character.
00:37:21
Speaker
That's true. He's very good at the K-Files. Yo, he's right on that. No, you you're right. over there On that Chris Van Fleet podcast, he's acting like his damn character, bro. I was like, yo, you got to chill out a little, man. Hey, to your point, Bobby, he's a schmuck every time he gets on camera.
00:37:38
Speaker
yeah Pretty much. right I like it. Play into your character at all times. Keep K-Favor. That's probably one of the only things I actually give a damn about from AEW.
00:37:51
Speaker
ah But other than that, it Tony Storm is probably another one. um I don't know. AEW, they just be doing too much too much for me sometimes. That's right.
00:38:07
Speaker
Okay. No, but their pay-per-views this year have been better, I must say. Yeah, go ahead. It's a kayfabe or not. If you run up on Jacob Fightu, you're going smack shit out of you. That's for real.
00:38:18
Speaker
and Oh, anybody any break Anybody from that family. Anybody from that family. Oh, yeah. I'm not fucking with any of them Samoans, bro. I mean, have you heard the horror stories of Meng and the barbarian? Like, they used to, like, break people's fingers and pull eyes out of people's heads in bar fights. Like, this shit was crazy, bro. Like, what? If you can stick your finger in another man's eye and pull it out the socket, there is something with you I am not fucking with.
00:38:43
Speaker
that ever i will run away but the other way but you got it all good homie we good here please please save me anyways all right saturday night what we're going to do here to make this a little fun is i want each of you to pick a match uh the match that you want to talk about and then we will go ahead and uh and talk about that match so uh wild card mar what match would you like to talk about Hey, I really want to talk about how al feisty the Stephanie Bacure and Liv Morgan match is getting.
00:39:20
Speaker
Okay. All right. Let's do it. Let's talk about it. Start us off. What are your thoughts? it Did you not see how Smeagol face Liv got last night? Oh, bro. Yeah.
00:39:31
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Oh, she hot. She got a golf ball on her forehead. She hot ball on her forehead. Oh, that's right, because they smacked heads together, right? Yeah, that's right. I remember that now. Also, she's also coming off a Coachella weekend, so it looks like she hasn't been getting sleep at all. Hey, she was looking good in that little cutoff, whatever she had on, half have naked, looking beautiful.
00:39:56
Speaker
Hey, didn't you see me dropped her little T-Moo Britney Spears music video? Mm-hmm. You know T-Moo Britney Spears. T-Moo Britney Spears. Hey, hey, she's doing her thing. So she's feeling real good right now at WrestleMania. She's going to look a lot better if she mess around and get the title off her.
00:40:19
Speaker
Mm, tax. She's going to get the dub. So you think that she's going to win or what? What do you got? yeah i'm going I'm going with Liv. um I think she gets the dub. And in no offense, because I love Stephanie McCure, but Liv, just the whole ah whole package, I think she's been one of the better female wrestlers over the last five years.
00:40:45
Speaker
Okay, yeah, no, I mean, hey look, Stephanie Verkort came in with a a very, very strong start. Like, you want to talk about Obafemi and Trick Williams. Stephanie Verkort came from ah the Indies into the WWF, bypassed pretty much NXT in no time. She was there for like one week.
00:41:05
Speaker
And then they put the title on her because of the massive crowd reaction, which Marr said earlier is how you're supposed to treat wrestling. If you're getting a good crowd reaction, follow that crowd reaction. And that's what they did with Stephanie Bacor to the point where you got kids yeah you got kids in the stands wanting some devil kiss because they want to see her booty popping.
00:41:26
Speaker
I'm like, wow, we got 10-year-old boys out here chanting for
Tag Team Matches and Storyline Dynamics
00:41:30
Speaker
her booty popping. What do we got going on, WWE? But it works. Yeah. ah you know hey and i enjoy Can we just get Booker fucker T on commentary for just this one? Please, bring him up. I need Booker T at all times. Oh, yeah, man. Oh, yeah. post people gotta be they ain't no money but me like yo I love Booker, bro.
00:41:52
Speaker
he re He sells the content. and guys he helped He helped put Stephanie on with that. He helped put Trick on with it. Oh, yeah, man. That's Trick. Yeah.
00:42:06
Speaker
I would say he's doing that with Joe Hendry now. It's great. oh Yeah, he's doing Joe Hendry now. come on, bro. Hey, come on, bro. Booker T is live. I like Booker T on the mic.
00:42:21
Speaker
so hey oh look at see yeah
00:42:27
Speaker
All right, Well, let's go around the horn. Let's pick this match. I got Stephanie Bacora. I can't see them taking the belt off of her at this point in time. I'll take Jake. Yeah, as much as I want Liv to win, she's I think she's the best female wrestler right now.
00:42:43
Speaker
um I think they're going to let Steph keep it, but Liv will put on a show. And I'll get into mine later, but there' need there's there's one legacy match in this WrestleMania, and I'll get to it later.
00:42:57
Speaker
But Liv will put on the show and show what she is. It'll be a good match. I think that, you know, look, Liv Morgan is a much better performer than when she started out, obviously. And goes for everybody, obviously. You get better as you go on. But she was bad when she first started. Like, I wouldn't even watch her matches. She sells herself very well.
00:43:20
Speaker
She's great at it. Bobby G, who you got in this match? I got Liv, man. She's too hot right now. you can see I mean, they got her in movies. They got her, like you say, T-Move Britney Spears. She got a video and a song out. like there's just too You can see both hands on her back, man. The push is real.
00:43:36
Speaker
ah like me and mar I'll put both hands on that back. I thought they pushed Stephanie like too fast in WWE. Oh, so you think it was too fast of a push? Yeah, she's incredible with what they had going on. you bro You had Jade, you had Bianca, you had the caution. like It was too many women doing too many things for y'all. And I get it. like Injury kind of played a part in you know Stephanie getting her spot. Don't get me wrong. She's ski like she see the future.
00:44:05
Speaker
She's the future. But right now, Liv got it. And think about this, man. I think ah since last WrestleMania, there has been a wwe WWE title on a Judgment Day member. Right now, there isn't one.
00:44:19
Speaker
Well, they need to get rid of that freaking faction. Again, another reason you can't because she's in charge now. Again, part of that, but, like, the battery is in her back, man. She got to win. There's the writer room just dragging on those five-year storylines again. AP, what you got? I got Liv, too. I think Liv's going to end up winning mainly because of Judgment Day, and then I think you're going to get a Judgment Day story at SummerSlam, so.
00:44:46
Speaker
um I'm kind of intrigued to see where this goes, to be honest. so All right, cool. There you go. Hot Take Jake, you said you wanted to pick a match from this card. Go right ahead. What's your match?
00:44:57
Speaker
The legacy match, guys. And i want you, especially to my wrestling heads, I know this card is on the back burner of WrestleMania. I think it's night two is what I was looking at. Yeah.
00:45:09
Speaker
Guys, Finn Balor versus Dominique is huge. I said choose one from Saturday. Choose the Sunday one when we get to Sunday, fool. What are you doing? What do you mean Sunday? I didn't say that.
00:45:21
Speaker
leave it Leave it to the Texas fans and not hear the rules. What a hater. God bless. I'll throw Saturdays. I'll throw Saturdays. Don't worry. Can we stick on one day? It's hard for me with these pictures. that's why you go for This has been dragged out so sadly.
00:45:39
Speaker
And I think they need to let her go into retirement after this. I think AJ Lee, Becky Lynch needs to end with Becky winning. And I think I need to see. There's a reason why AJ's been gone for so long.
00:45:51
Speaker
She doesn't have anymore. I'm sorry. As I was saying, Becky should dismantle her and send her on her way back home, and she should be sitting there with her dogs and watching CM Punk the rest of his career at home.
00:46:05
Speaker
I don't expect her to be anywhere past this. I think Becky deserves this win more than ever. So I'm going Becky wins this match. This is the match where I want to just see a dismantling. Y'all know the 30 second, maybe minute and a half matches.
00:46:21
Speaker
I want like a leg gun like a squatch match you want a squash match. I want that match right there to be that because they've dragged this since what? When the hell did they fight? What? Wrestle Palooza when they had that little tag team shit?
00:46:34
Speaker
It's still been dragging on. Come on, man. Get this shit out of here. Becky Lynch dismantles her. I got Becky. Let's go. You know what? I completely agree with you. I do not like AJ Lee. Never have, never will. I've never liked her wrestling personality. I don't think she can wrestle that great. I don't know why they ever pushed her as much as they did. I get that she's CM Punk's girl, so I know that has lot to do with it. But, yeah, she needs to go back into retirement because I'm not at all. I'm shocked you don't like her. I'm wanting to see it.
00:47:06
Speaker
I will fucking come through the screen and punch the shit out of you. Walker, Mar, who you got this one?
00:47:15
Speaker
I'll take Jake's three for three tonight, baby. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? What is happening right now? He's three for three. Becky, and i'm I'm not a Becky Litz fan.
00:47:28
Speaker
but I'm not either. I'm not a really big fan of her either. But she cooking. She's good. She can wrestle. She can wrestle her ass off. Her character work is top tier. Her wrestling is top tier to match it.
00:47:39
Speaker
Now, AJ Lee has always had the wrestling down to me. I just think the character so forced. It's like she comes up with her zingers. It's like you're just trying to. so It's not natural. It's not natural.
00:47:56
Speaker
It's not natural to me. And it's kind of like you feel like ah a forced character is trying to look like you're cool. But like deep down, like you're just a nerd. You're you're an introvert. And that's okay. Yeah.
00:48:06
Speaker
but like I don't know. I just feel like you're reaching. i never You know what? That is spot on. I don't know why I ever knew that. That spot on, bro. yeah like oh i'm I'm like you. I've never been an AJ Lee fan. and i right I understand her wrestling skills. I always appreciated that. I just never liked her character.
00:48:25
Speaker
and not then I think I was a little more critical on her skills than I should have been. she is and She's an okay wrestler. She's not Becky Lynch, though, by any means when it comes to wrestling skills. That she's not.
00:48:38
Speaker
AP, what you got on this one? So two things first. The fact that we got a champ for therapy, I will always give AJ credit for that. Yeah, you know what? She's a good advocate for mental health, so that's good. Yeah, so definitely wanted to shout her out for that. don't think she needs to be on WrestleMania.
00:48:55
Speaker
Also, the fact that we don't have a t-shirt that says Crash Out Bex. is kind of baffling to me because like that's what we've been seeing for becky the last month or so is just crashing out randomly so i love it uh but yeah i got becky winning uh i think it'll be a good solid match though so you should design to wwe they'll probably put that up crash um yeah yeah i mean it should it should be it should be a good women's match um i know that that sounds bad but i just i have a hard time with, you know what, before we get canceled in the moment, Bobby G, what do you have as much of
00:49:31
Speaker
ah Once again, I'm following the money, man. It's AJ Lee. Y'all crazy. Two things should be true. Everything you said about Becky Lynch should be true, but you know what else is true? Exactly what she said the other day. Becky Lynch, your daughter's favorite wrestler is AJ Lee. like She's been the top top female merch salesman since she's been back. okay And TKO is going ride that train. She's going to get the dub.
00:49:51
Speaker
Well, Becky Lynch would back to differ and say Sports Illustrated ranked her the best wrestler ever. The best wrestler. I said merch sales. Okay. Got it. ah different games go yeah Different game. Different game. Where's the money? You did say you were following the money. All right, Bobby G, um go ahead. Give us your your match here on Saturday.
00:50:11
Speaker
oh You know what, man? Saturday, Saturday, Saturday.
00:50:20
Speaker
Man, Marlody stole my thumbers. So I'm going to go with the homie, man. I'm going go with Jacob Fatu. And McIntyre, just because that's just two guys that I like. they're both in in my top 10 watchers, guys I like to watch.
00:50:34
Speaker
um I think they'll put on a good show. think they'll put on a good show to, I mean, Drew's obviously, definite mean, he's a heel. Jacob's kind of like the anti, he's not really a heel to face, anti-hero.
00:50:47
Speaker
And kind of just want to see him go at it, man. Two big boys going at it. It's old school. Nothing on the line but pride. Nah, they're going all over the damn arena, bro. Bro, I hope they come up to us. That would be so dope if they came up to where we were sitting. oh biden You might not want that problem, man. That's $700 worth of human being rolling around at you. hey, Bobby, I know how to dodge, dog.
00:51:14
Speaker
AP! I'm going to take 5-2 for the dub, man. All right, AP, who you got? 5-2 for the dub. This should be a Hell in a Cell match, if I'm being honest. It should be. that i love the fact I love the fact that it's unsanctioned because you know these guys are just going to go after each other. oh yeah. they're um But to me, this should be Hell in a Cell. But since it's not Hell in a Cell, I'm going to go with Jacob. I think Jacob's going to win. If it was Hell in a Cell, I would pick Drew. But it since it's not in a Cell. I love that you did that because that's so true. If it was in a cage, I think I would favor Drew McIntyre. But out in the out in the open, I think I would favor Fatou just because wrestling styles. That's a really good point. it very i like um I like Jacob Dillon. All right. Walker Mark, what do you got in this one? Hey, man.
00:52:04
Speaker
To be fair, I kind of like what Drew's been doing, man. Like, hey, his truck is the best. He's a great promo. He's a great video packages. Hey, he said, welcome to the Drew So Penitentiary, bro. He tweeted that shit, bro. hey That's great.
00:52:26
Speaker
Hey. Hey, on some real, man. Hey, give me Drew McIntyre, man. i Okay. There you go. ah He's been putting in so much great work over the last few years. in like and i suck It sucked that he his championship reign during that COVID was trapped. That sucked for him. Yeah, that sucked. Yeah, that sucked for him. But, I mean, he's been a good soldier, dog. but i think He has been. for To take the title in a time where there was no fans and still give it his all, I mean, you've got to commend him for that. he's been He has been the the epitome.
00:53:02
Speaker
Of a a soldier, of a loyal soldier ever since he came back to WWE. And it it makes sense. You got cut. You lost your dream. Worked your way back to the Indies. And, you know, you got to savor it when you get back to the top because you could lose it all again very, very quickly, as we know. happens in sports all the time. Jake, are you going to make a four for four with Wildcard tomorrow? Yeah.
00:53:23
Speaker
Well, I would love for Drew to win because Drew's my favorite wrestler too right now currently. But we got to put facts on facts. In fact, he wouldn't have lost this damn his championship if he wasn't about to make a movie.
00:53:38
Speaker
So I think because of the movie thing that's about to happen, They're going to probably let Fatou win this one so he can go on the rise after WrestleMania. And I think they're going to let Drew lose and then have Drew come back after he's done with his filming. But right now, in general, guys, that's the WWE w champion.
00:53:58
Speaker
if he doesn't have to leave for a movie because he he was pizzazzing himself and i think he's the rightful champion sorry cody the cody crybabies can go cry their asses off with that crap because i'm tired of his ass being the champion i agree
00:54:16
Speaker
i'll tell tomorrow so he cried maybe talk coy news can i agree I agree. It's Drew McIntyre. I wish it was Drew with the word to win, but I think they're going to Fatou win.
00:54:28
Speaker
leaving that i know I didn't know about the movie, Breaking News. Thank you, Jake, for that insider information. I don't know what movie is it, Braveheart? Remix? so Should be. of your Wow. Very stereotyping. I apologize to my Irish brethren out there that probably me now. ah you they over mel gibson Not the Ron Simmons. but day wow I got Fatou in this one even before I knew there was a movie. I think that Fatou needs this push right now. He needs to be a world champion at some point too, just like Oba and Trick. He should have been champion already.
00:55:07
Speaker
i think they fumbled the ball a little bit there ah you know earlier in the year and into last year when they kind of let him fall to the wayside. That's why I'm so scared with Oba right now. That's why I'm so scared.
00:55:18
Speaker
Yeah, they missed a window with Jacob. They had it too. It was right there. That sucks, man. And they did with LA Night, too. Like, come on, y'all. Y'all suckers. Stop. They did do it with L.A. Knight, but now – L.A. Knight should have had the belt on him for at least a month. He's tripping over anything. Not now. Not now. He's botching everything. Gosh.
00:55:40
Speaker
Absolutely not. I'm sorry. I've never seen it with L.A. Knight. I've never seen it. No? The promos are amazing. Yeah. The promos are amazing. I i see long-time U.S. champion, long-time intercontinental champion.
00:55:56
Speaker
I'm good with that. My my my all-time favorite is when he went after, well what's his name, A.J. Francis now in TNA. ah like i didn't I knew Will Smith was in the game, but I didn't know Uncle Phil became a rapper.
00:56:10
Speaker
Oh, that's great. That's tremendous. He said, who hotter than Top Dollar? A lot, a lot of. Yeah. Yeah. but That's good. That's good. that's Don't get me wrong. I think he's he's damn good on the mic more times than not. Great on the mic. And my thing is, is like, a I just look at him like on the same level as the Miz and no disrespect to the Miz because the Miz has a Hall of Fame career.
00:56:34
Speaker
ah But like, Nick Carter, every now and then give him a championship bri have his little moment at Mania, but ah not right now. i just don't see it. I'm like, ugh.
00:56:51
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. AP, what's your match? So i kind of little alluded to this earlier ah in the words of JBO, call the cops because these boys are going to steal the damn show. oh gunther and Gunther and Seth Rollins, I think, is going to be the match of the night, especially looking at this card top to bottom.
00:57:15
Speaker
These two are going to have the match of the night. I'm so looking forward to this match. I'm going to throw up with Gunther. I don't like him either. I don't like him either. I'm sorry. He no personality whatsoever. Here's the thing.
00:57:28
Speaker
um'm i love Gunther. I love it. I love it. he's He just has no character. He's ah he's a German. he's like ah He's like a German guy that does hit hard. He's got a character.
00:57:39
Speaker
gunther is the old school typical ring yeah character that is the character no his character is hardly harley race is that what i'm missing he's hes character pretty much yeah pretty much yeah do like how the race so so and you should absolutely be in love with So my thing is, is like that's always been his character. I love Gunter. And then he's he's evolved the character because after he retired AJ Styles and he came out to the theme song and did the... he he didde
00:58:13
Speaker
I want him to come out to John Cena's entrance music at WrestleMania. Hey, hey. That would crucial. I did what he kept running around. I'm the one that tired John Cena and made him tap like a little bitch. Hey, that was – How can you not like that? loved it. I loved it. Loved it. Like, come on, bro. Like, people be – So, who you got? Both of these guys are going to be out to steal the show too, so I think going to be – So, do you have Gunther too then, Marth?
00:58:45
Speaker
I have Gunther winning, but it's because we're going to get Braun Breaker coming back. Oh, a little spoiler. Okay, you think Braun Breaker's going ruin the match?
00:58:56
Speaker
there no There you go. I like it. Yeah, but I got Gunther winning. Wow. All right, Mark, what you got? Do you know something? don't know, AP. Is e cleared yeah how cold he He literally just got cleared two weeks ago.
00:59:11
Speaker
Oh, shit. There it is. So they still couldn't even put that match on if they really wanted to then. They didn't want to save it. Apparently, they didn't want to save it for a two-week build. They wanted to save it for a much longer story, a much longer build. That makes sense. the build is already there.
00:59:30
Speaker
He turned on him. What are we talking about? We don't need no build. I hate you. You turned on me and you hate me. Let's get in the match. Boom.
00:59:41
Speaker
Damn, done deal. What are we talking about?
00:59:45
Speaker
yeah Let's not complicate this shit. Like sometimes wrestling is wrestling, bro. That's very true. The moment you put a moment Roman said, hey, punk, I want you.
00:59:57
Speaker
Yeah. Chase goes. What are we talking about here? All right. are We already know what Sunday Night Main Event is. Let's go. We don't need no number of Patrick McAfee for this shit, huh? Do we?
01:00:11
Speaker
No, not at all. so who you got? Who's your winner? Oh, no. Gunter, man.
01:00:18
Speaker
He got to. All right. I just love him. He's on such a momentum right now. Mm-hmm. So you think Rollins can take the L and nothing will happen to Rollins and it'll just... He's always been that guy.
01:00:31
Speaker
Rollins has always been sell the match. make make He's like MJF. He doesn't need a belt to to be over. He has the greatest money in the bank cash in of all time. So nothing's going to hurt him.
01:00:45
Speaker
I mean, and he just had the did the second greatest cash in when he dropped the cap. You better chill on that. The ruse of the century.
01:00:54
Speaker
the jason you got I got Gunther also, but I just think they're going to keep force feeding us that Gunther's all this and that. Not only that, we already know that he's already on a run to kill Brock Lesnar's career at SummerSlam, so they're not going to let him fall down here.
01:01:13
Speaker
So I just have a feeling that they're going to force Gunther right back in my throat that I don't want to see pause. ah I was reckless. Holy Wow.
01:01:29
Speaker
My God. No, where's my sound effect for that one? I can't let that go. I got to find a sound effect for that one. Hey, yo.
01:01:39
Speaker
Hey, yo, Tim! That's what I was ah Gunther will win this easily. Gunther will get this. I think Seth will sell it. God. Macho Man has some words for you. Freakless abandon is what it used to be. Yeah, yeah.
01:01:55
Speaker
and What the hell is wrong with you? You are reckless as shit, bro. All right, anyways, keep it moving. Wow. McIntyre and Tattoo, we talked. God bless, I don't even know where I am now. Gunther versus Rollins. Oh, that's right. That's what we're talking about. oh Yeah, I'll go with Gunther. I agree. I don't think Rollins has anything to lose here, and I don't think he really even needed to be.
01:02:14
Speaker
In this match, per se, I think that they could have put anybody against Gunther because I think Gunther was going to go over the whole entire time regardless because, like Marr said, he is on that run. I forgot to put that up. He is on that run where they are having him retire all the legends. So are you going have him lose to Rollins here and lose that momentum?
01:02:33
Speaker
That don't make no sense. So Gunther here on this one as well. I agree. All right, cool. Let's move it into the other matches here that were not picked, but we're still going to give our winners. First of all, let's go ahead and get to this women's match, the four four women's tag team match. You've got um Nia and Lash Legend.
01:02:53
Speaker
You've got Charlotte and Alexa. You've got the Bellas. And then you've got ah val Lila Valkyria and Bayley in this four-on-four matchup. AP started us off. Who you got?
01:03:07
Speaker
Charlotte and Alexa. Charlotte and Alexa. Bobby G, who you got? As much as I hate it, Lyra and Bailey. Wow, yeah, i hate that pick. I do not like Lyra Vicaria. She got a push for, in my eyes, is no real reason, but I guess she was super good on the indies, and maybe that's why. Just to give you all an update, the Hornets are 125-120 26 seconds left.
01:03:32
Speaker
There you go. See, Bobby G, I was paying attention to it, too. Thank you for that update. Hot Take Jake, who you got in this match? As much as I would want ah the Bellas to win, I think i think he's right. knew you would.
01:03:47
Speaker
You do. Well, i wanted the Bellas to win, but I don't think that Bree's going to be full-time and she'd have to become full-time. So I think they're going to give it to Charlotte. I think going to give it Charlotte and...
01:03:58
Speaker
the hell's redactant team like alexa yeah alexa bliss supposedly this is the bella's retirement match i hope so i hope so i dislike i dislike the bellas to the high heavens they stink they stink bro they've never been good wrestlers they've never been good promos they've never been good characters that's what that tells me no Look, I am a heterosexual male just like you all, and I love some nice booty and some nice... What happened? What happened, Bobby G? Oh. 125, 123, eight seconds. Tyler Hero just got fired shooting a three.
01:04:41
Speaker
Whoa! Don't put the man on the line that can hit those free throws easily. Wow, we'll get update there in a second. um Look, I do like ass, okay? Ass and titties.
01:04:52
Speaker
Ass and titties. Anyways, it doesn't matter, though. I do not like the Bellas. I think they stink. I think their wrestling career has been a part. Bro, the only the only reason they're even in the business is because of John Cena and Daniel Bryanson.
01:05:05
Speaker
Otherwise, they wouldn't even be wrestlers. So screw that. I am going... I know, I really am. I'm going with Charlotte and Alexa as well. I think that is their time for them to put the belts on them. They are two of the better wrestlers and probably the two best wrestlers in this match, actually. if i had it Maybe Bayley could put up a a fight against Alexa, but Charlotte is definitely the best woman wrestler in the world, and she will always be the best. way i don't so I can't see anybody being better than than Charlotte just now.
01:05:34
Speaker
Does Charlotte need to evolve at some point because her moveset and her character got a little stale there, sure. But she's still the she's still a legend. She's still one of the best to ever do it. And if she can somehow evolve herself into a better character in the future, um you know she'll be the go down as the greatest of all time in terms of women. Bullshit. Don't do that. You can disagree. Wildcard Mark, what you got? Maybe that'll be a show topic tomorrow.
01:06:01
Speaker
I ain't gonna lie. I... I'm cool with keeping the belts with these irresistible forces, man. I like Nine Jacks and i like Last Legend.
01:06:11
Speaker
And they're both, ah you know, dominant ladies. Keep the belts on, let them dominate. You know what? You know what? That's not a bad idea either. And because Last Legend needs to push. Well, not no, not that she just needs to push, but if you call yourself a tag team division, they're an actual tag team. They got a damn tag team name. Otherwise, you just got two singles characters that you're just putting together. Say, hey, besides the Bellas, but we're not for them to be- i didn't i didn't know that was their name. Their name is the Irresistible Forces? Is that their name?
01:06:43
Speaker
Oh, I didn't know. That's pretty good. I like that. Yeah, it is. I mean, like- come on, man. like If we're going to have a tag team division, let's keep it felt's on tag team.
01:06:58
Speaker
I can dig that. Okay, cool. Let's move it into the next one. We got the three-on-three matchup. This is sure to be a banger, and I am so excited because I've never got to yeet in person, and I am going to yeet all over that stadium when the Uso J comes out.
01:07:15
Speaker
So, Usos and LA Knight versus Austin Theory, Logan Paul, and iShowSpeed. We talked about this earlier. Bobby G, we haven't started off with you. You start us off on this one.
Speculation on WrestleMania Outcomes
01:07:29
Speaker
o You got to go to Vision. Again, especially AP's writing, you got Bron Breaker coming back. You got find a way to keep that story alive. You can't have him lose.
01:07:44
Speaker
Okay. AP? The reverse curse on I show Speed keeps going. speed end and and it Speed ends up pinning Jimmy Uso. Wow. Imagine Speed getting the pin in this. That's crazy. And Jay turns heel. Jay turns heel, too.
01:08:00
Speaker
Wait, Jay turns on his brother? Mm-hmm. In the match? Oh, my God. You got you can't bury the leads like that, Alan. That needs to be the first thing that comes out of your mouth. Stop burying the damn lead. No, after the match because Jimmy's the one that gets pinned by Show Speed. Hey, interesting.
01:08:20
Speaker
Mar, what do you think about that? Wow. No, I think I'm i'm with no a division with it. Oh, wow. peter Flap and buzzer beater? wow Wow. Charlotte, 127-126. Hero missed a free throw.
01:08:39
Speaker
No, he he made all the free throws, put him up one. LaMelo made a layup with four seconds left. Miami didn't call timeout. They tried to take it to the court. Got blocked. Fucking move the ball to half court, dog. Take timeout. What are you doing?
01:08:55
Speaker
Oh, man. Miami will be playing the winner of... Who is it? Great. um I don't know. Let me see my bracket. I think I got it here somewhere.
01:09:08
Speaker
I got you. Let's bring the whole bracket up. Philly and Orlando.
01:09:14
Speaker
Philly and Orlando. And as well, we also have a play-in game Spurs and, I mean, Suns and Clippers tonight. They're in a mortgage matchup stadium. Probably started a little bit ago already. We probably got a score. What score on that, Bobby G?
01:09:29
Speaker
On that one, let me check real quick. And I'll get some comments here. Michael, thank you for tapping in. Appreciate it. Yes, we're going to get to Reigns and Punk in just a moment. Don't you worry. Stay tuned with us. We appreciate you tapping in. My brother Chris says, ah so Seth Rollins, is this a Shawn Michaels? He steals the show at Mania.
01:09:46
Speaker
ah Look, I agree. I think you that really is a good and apt comparison ah for Seth Rollins to Shawn Michaels. I like that comparison. um and no shan Also, notice that Sean doesn't have a winning record at WrestleMania, but he's still dubbed as with Mr. WrestleMania. so Because he puts on great performances because he's one of the best wrestlers of all time, hands down.
01:10:07
Speaker
I he's top 10 in my eyes, probably. but Yeah, Phoenix early thirteen seven Phoenix early 13 seven. Let's get to the main event on Saturday evening. This is the one we were talking about. This is the one we said didn't have a good ah buildup. Obviously they based this around ticket sales instead of actually basing it around a perfectly good setup of their ah past together in the legacy.
01:10:33
Speaker
um Also, you know, ah any number of other stories. Apparently, you know, Cody Rhodes had saved Randy Orton from getting in trouble plenty of times on the road back in the day when Randy Orton was in his mischief mischievous phase, um so to say. So, again, just a horrible build here. I'm really not appreciative of how they did this.
01:10:52
Speaker
um It really blew the whole match for me. um And so, you know, I'm i'm not as hyped as I was. ah But I'll go ahead and start this one off. Needless to say, I don't...
01:11:04
Speaker
i I don't, I'm with the boys. I don't like Cody Rhodes being the champion anymore. All right. We had enough of Cody, man. It's been three, four years now. We got it. He came back from AEW. He completed the story. Now let him go be the intercontinental U.S. mid-card champion. He doesn't need to be the world champion anymore. I do think they want to give Randy Orton another win to keep him up there kind of catching up with Cena and Ric Flair in that titles race. i think I think they give Randy Orton a win here. I think McAfee somehow factors in here and causes Cody the victory.
01:11:41
Speaker
Hot take Jake.
01:11:44
Speaker
Yeah, I got Randy Witten. This will be hot take here. that well not really a hot take. ah Randy's last championship over win in the WWE right here. This is it right here. Okay. I can see that.
01:11:55
Speaker
I don't think they'll let him players. Yeah, they're not going let him pass Cena after they gave Cena that whole goat talk, all that bull crap. Yeah, Randy gets it. I will say this.
01:12:05
Speaker
It's time for Cody to turn heel after this. I'm tired of him i like playing face, bro. Stop playing a face. It's time to be a heel, bro. I'm ready for it. I think the fans should turn on.
01:12:17
Speaker
In fact, before Pat McAfee's dumbass gets on the damn microphone, they were already cheering for Randy Orton to win the damn match. They were wanting Randy Orton. Everybody was cheering him.
01:12:28
Speaker
yeah You already have a storyline for them to go against you, Cody. They already are hating your ass. Stop kissing their ass now. Fuck them and show them up and drink that whiskey as you're leaving and say, fuck the fans after it.
01:12:42
Speaker
That's what I want him to do. He deserves it. It's time to move on. Time to be the heel that he deserves to be. he Show us Stardust. Bring back Stardust, baby. you Let's go.
01:12:56
Speaker
You was doing good until you said that. Wait, did he make it five for five, though, before that? Did he make it for five? ain't giving him that because he messed around and said bring the Stardust. No, no.
01:13:10
Speaker
No, you can't you can't have a positive and negative in the same sentence. No. as cuppi No, I'm going Randy Orton. I think he just, I mean, i is it weird? But I kind of feel like Randy, is he in his retirement stage that we just don't know about? And just hear my theory.
01:13:35
Speaker
Hear my theory. Same time last year, wasn't it just John Cena, thinking up with a celebrity we didn't care for, beating up on Cody Rhodes for the championship again? i wife He went on his whole tour and then he was out the door like is Randy going on his tour? day So he did his 15th, he didn't go out on his tour.
01:13:57
Speaker
Because, like, I don't know. you and We're connecting some dots here between you and Hot Take Jake's argument. Wait a second. Hot Take Jake said he wins his last title. You're saying he's possibly retiring. I think this all lines up.
01:14:11
Speaker
It's starting to line up that it could be maybe his last run. AP, what do you think?
01:14:17
Speaker
Honestly, i don I want Cody to win just so I don't have to see Pat McAfee's goofy face anymore. That's facts. I do think Randy is going to win, win number 15.
01:14:28
Speaker
i agree with everybody else. I think this is the start of of him winding down his career. and I really want to see – I really want to see Cody turn heel too, so I agree with Jake on that as well. yeah Not only that, real quick, real side note real quick. Do we see a jelly roll Pat McAfee punch to the face at one point in time during the match? Does something happen that way?
01:14:51
Speaker
I hope they both knock each other out with a punch so both stupid asses can get the hell out of them. I'm so sick and tired of Jelly Roll, bro. I live in Nashville, and all you hear is Jelly Roll this, Jelly Roll that. he was at i went today I went to the TNA event. He was front row at TNA, and they were announcing him, and the crowd was like, shut up. Nobody cares about fucking Jelly Roll.
01:15:10
Speaker
Anyways, that's just my personal hate. Bobby G, continue. I'm with you. Like, Orton's got to win. Wow, five five. The only thing I disagree with is...
01:15:22
Speaker
I disagree with the but the going back to the to me. The storyline is is just what said, Jake. Like everybody already hates Cody. don't need go to the past. Fuck their progressive relationship. Everybody just hates But would at least do use it to help build wide build that hate. You don't have to. You could. He's the champion. He's the face and he's getting boot Yeah, that's that's it.
01:15:44
Speaker
You don't need more hate. like Pretty much. Look, a dude literally turned heel and they cheered for him to whoop your ass. How much more hate can you get?
01:15:57
Speaker
the But yeah, Orton wins it. The retirement thing angle is kind of interesting. um only pushback I would give to that is like, why why have him go the Viper route? You know i mean?
01:16:11
Speaker
You could have just kept regular Randy Orton for that. no Again, he's also to the stage where heel face doesn't matter. He's kind of... People just fuck with Randy Orton.
01:16:23
Speaker
He's my favorite of all time. So... ah Cody. I mean, yeah, he's one of those he's one of those wrestlers. He's, again, he doesn't need a belt to be over, but it helps to treat them nicely, as Mar said. You know, throw a title to him every once in a while. just's He's basically turned into Big Show. you know, he's got more turns than NASCAR.
01:16:40
Speaker
Wow. um good Cody, just send Cody to, like, TNA or some shit, man. Wow. stupid Just completely out of the company? i just don i just don't likes like He serves no purpose. straight i man and I can't see him in any kind of role. I can't see him as a tag team champ. No, I'm not making him. I have too much young talent to make him the IC champ or USA champ.
01:17:06
Speaker
like Just send him somewhere. ah Just send him somewhere. okay yeah yeah wonder how long I wonder how long his contract goes because he could go back to AEW. Let him just keep running the podcast.
Wrestler Potential and Career Trajectories
01:17:19
Speaker
That's it. Good.
01:17:21
Speaker
word all right well let's move it into sunday yes indeed sunday evening here is the card we got punk and range is going to be the headliner there that night we also got dominic mysterio and finn balor and this is what i wanted to bring up because bobby g you just mentioned them bringing the viper out a lot of people have said why bring the demon out here in this first match because they think that they're going to have a another match at backlash and that's when you should bring the demon out but who am i i don't know y'all can ponder on that rhea ripley versus Jade Cargill for the Women's Championship. Sami Zayn versus the Lemon Pepper Stepper, Trick Williams.
01:17:59
Speaker
ah The six-man ladder match, which I am so looking forward to. Again, I've never seen a ladder match in person, so i'm super excited for that one. And as well, the big one, what should be, we said the main event on Saturday. I think everybody agreed with that.
01:18:14
Speaker
Brock Lesnar versus Oba the Ruler. Spam me. So let's do it again. We're going to start off picking matches. Who was the one that picked last, last time? That was you, AP. So since you had to pick, no, it was Bobby G would have picked last, right?
01:18:30
Speaker
Or AP. I don't remember either. um It don't matter. AP, start us off. Pick a match, brother. I mean, might as well just go right to the main event, Punk and Reigns.
01:18:45
Speaker
Okay, we're going to save last, Bobby G. If you were going to do that, you're going to save you for last. The main event always goes last, you know that.
01:18:56
Speaker
You know where I'm going. Let me go, mine.
01:19:04
Speaker
Get up, Bob.
01:19:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah, man. Oh, yeah, man. Them lemon pepper steppers, baby. That's the match. yeah WWE, do the right thing.
01:19:26
Speaker
Reward the kid, man. He he needs a title. um ah love i love the way they finally hooked up Mellow. You know, hey, he got his lady. He got to take care of that, so he had to drop it.
01:19:40
Speaker
Now, put it on the next next man up, man. Make Sami Zayn that transitional champion that that he should be. That should be his role. Put it on Trick.
01:19:53
Speaker
We can get rid of this ah fighting champion nonsense because Trick is one of the best on the mic in the game. So, you know, and build him up for...
01:20:05
Speaker
a potential battle with Mellow. You know, they bring bring back the battles they had in NXT. So, ah yeah, you got you gotta reward this dude, man. He's putting I mean, I... Yeah. There's just nothing else to say.
01:20:20
Speaker
Yeah. Even when he loses, he still looks good. Yeah, I mean, if I completely agree. i mean, there are people that just look like a star, and he has star dripping all over him. And Sami Zayn doesn't. I'm sorry. And it sucks that Sami is pigeonholed into this position, but he is a mid-card wrestler, and that's all he will ever be is a mid-card wrestler. He should not even be sniffing.
01:20:46
Speaker
world title territory. And I hate to say it. I wish they would have let him be the world title in his hometown last year and then just give it away. So at least you give him that that prize for being a loyal worker, at least. But to be a a champion over Trick Williams at the at the rise and level that trick is that? Nah, man. Nah, I agree with Bobby G transitional champion. Get that shit off of Sammy Zane. You don't need that.
01:21:08
Speaker
And it ah it only sucks that frickin they got Yachty because I would love nothing more. Oh, my goodness. Then ah Terrence Howard. Like, bro, you can tell me that the freaking pop if he came out with the real whoop that tricks on.
01:21:26
Speaker
yeah With Terrence Howard. DJ. that That would be so dumb. But no, we get freaking little Yachty. Well, a little yachty Terrence Howard to me, it really doesn't matter. They're both of the same ilk, especially when Terrence Howard came out and tried to tell me that one times nothing was not z was not zero. And I'm a mathematician. I told him to kiss my ass and I stopped listening to Terrence Howard after that. But anyways, moving it on.
01:21:55
Speaker
I'll take Jake. Who you got in this one? Yeah, I agree with Bobby G. Not only that, Sami Zayn, it's been a good ride, Bo, but it's time to just turn into, you know, the first match of Raw every week or something like that, bro. I'm sorry. It's not much. Be enhancement talent. be Be the Brooklyn Brawler and be the best you can be.
01:22:17
Speaker
That's all it can be now. Brooklyn Brawler. Oh, my God. There you go. He's going into the Hall of Fame for a reason. Because he was one of the best enhancement talents. You beat the shit out of me, going to put you over like you nobody's business. Yeah. That is true. You need that in wrestling. You need that. That is true. right. Go ahead, Mar, and then AP after this.
01:22:37
Speaker
Nah, it's no doubt it's whoop that trick getting that dub. First of all, Sammy Zane is the lovable loser, and I don't know why people like him.
01:22:48
Speaker
Oh, that's right. Because losers like losers. That's why. Wow. So, Trick Williams, it's easy. Hey, this is the one that you don't overcomplicate. Trick Williams is one of them. Yeah, yeah.
01:23:06
Speaker
Don't be stupid. Yep. Don't ruin it. I agree. Yep. AP? Double turn incoming. Trick goes babyface. Sammy goes heel. But Trick still wins the title regardless. so AP, you were coming with the fire tonight, bro. You got something for every match. I mean, Trick has gotten over so quick, kind of like what Opa's doing.
01:23:28
Speaker
it's It's like the fans love him. Everybody loves him. Why not make him a babyface? Why not just make it official at this point? Like Mar said, no need to to these. Because when Trick wins that title, you don't think that crowd's going to go nuts whenever he wins that title? Oh, my God. That place is going to be rocking. I can't wait. I can't wait. We're going to be whooping that Trick all the way to the back. So, yeah, Trick wins the U.S. title. We get a double turn at WrestleMania.
01:23:56
Speaker
Wow. See, i need a I like AP on these on these on these shows. He brings the the turns and the heat on these things. I like that. That's good. um ah Wow. Yeah. No, I think ah we were five for five on that. Everybody agreed, right?
01:24:09
Speaker
Rick Williams, Sammy Zayn. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. No, I think that's a, as Mar said, don't complicate it. Some things in wrestling are handed to you on a silver platter. And this superstar by the name of Rick Williams is handed to you on a silver platter.
01:24:25
Speaker
Take it and run with it. All right, cool. Let's keep it moving into our other Saturday action hot take. Jake, go ahead. You said you wanted to pick one. What you got for us? I know what it is. Guys, this is a legacy match.
01:24:39
Speaker
and This is a legacy match. Dominique Mysterio. Oh, you went completely different where I thought you going. Finn Ballard is a huge legacy match. Let me tell you why.
01:24:51
Speaker
wow I said this earlier on a different part and I'll say it here. Rey Mysterio never wins a championship without Eddie passing. Okay? Never wins the main championship.
01:25:01
Speaker
I don't agree with that at all, Come on. It's true as shit. it's No, no, no. Rey Mysterio, Rey Mysterio was one of, Rey Mysterio in his own right is just as good as Eddie Guerrero and had the same push in WCW that Eddie Guerrero had around the same time as Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit, and Chris Jericho. They all got the same push when the Luchadors came into WCW. Don't you dare but that was wcw was that he was not gonna get the push until eddie passed and when eddie passed they gave him the grunt in 2006 to do it come on omar let's call it spade a spade that's fair that's fine with that being said
01:25:46
Speaker
Dominique, this is a make or break moment. You got to steal the show here. This has a Kurt Angle, Shawn Michaels, WrestleMania 21 vibes to me. ah You have to show steal this match or you will be known as a mid-card fighter the rest of your career.
01:26:05
Speaker
And I think Dominique steps up to the plate and this is the show. Now I do believe Omba and Brock will be the best match, but I think Dominique will steal the show that night.
01:26:16
Speaker
And I think it's time. He has to. I think overall he'll be better. Golly, the only guy who left his his damn show. I over, baby. still take over. You're damn right. Not only that, you have to think about it.
01:26:32
Speaker
Dominique, in my opinion, will be better than Rey Mysterio by the end of his career. And it's because he will steal a show without, now nothing nothing against Eddie Pass, and I feel so bad for Eddie Pass, but he does not get that leverage.
01:26:49
Speaker
that Ray got 20 years ago exactly. And I think Dominique's run will start after this WrestleMania and he will rise to eventually a world title match and eventually crown himself a champion in this day and age. I got Dom. This is a legacy match, guys. It's a make break year.
01:27:09
Speaker
It's a make or break year for This is it right here. If you want to get technical, Dom's already a world champion just in a different company. But ah I mean, hey, I love AAA. I love AAA though. So I'm not mad at him being champion. he's He's proven over the course of the last few years that he can be that guy. He can carry carry ah a belt for a while. And, you know, he he held the IC title for a majority of last year. So you and he did a great job with that. Became AAA mega champion last year. He's done a great job with that.
01:27:43
Speaker
You know, go back and watch his match with the Kingo. I think it was... ah Back at Ray DeRaea's, it was a really great match. so um And he seems it seems very... i know that they did the whole custody storyline back in 05, but... no do Dom has really incorporated a lot of Eddie's moveset into his own and has made it his own.
01:28:08
Speaker
He reminds me so much of Eddie Guerrero. Like when he becomes a baby face, he's going to be the classic Eddie Guerrero character once that happens. i And I can't wait for it.
01:28:19
Speaker
And, you know, and I agree with you, Jake. I think Dom dom is going to have a career defining moment on Sunday. And I have him beating Finn Balor. Damn right. Let's go crazy.
01:28:33
Speaker
No, i don't think he wins. I could i could i could see you guys. I could see him having the moment and having a good showing. He can't beat the demon. that would That would literally be like, why bring him back?
01:28:46
Speaker
just Just to lose this. But I agree with you. like People want to like Dominic Mysterio for whatever reason. I think he needs a makeover. I think his look is fucking terrible.
01:28:59
Speaker
Oh, yeah. You're hating all. Don't do that. ah Bro, come on. Who wrestles with the half t-shirt? Like, bro, what what are you trying to... Who's your stylist? Oh, my God.
01:29:13
Speaker
That shit looks fucking ugly. That shit is ugly, man. It's his character. like me like It's ugly. I'm sorry. Dom Mysterio is is ah arrogant. His outfit is ugly. He wears cowhide stuff. You're born in San Diego, bro.
01:29:31
Speaker
I love Dom. It looks like a Mexican version of Magnum TA right now. Alright, bro. Just change the look and I'm cool, man.
01:29:45
Speaker
Uh... and keep the lift because live like to me they make each other better so keep keep that thing going regardless of what happens with the judgment day just keep those two the thing and yeah i can see dom climbing up that and just go ahead and and give him the light cheat steal gimmick let him run with that because i think that's when people started to lie when he started to do those types of things you know with when he started to throw the title fall down you know all the shit he used to do the light cheat steal stuff let him run with that that gimmick i think people yeah because people want to like him
01:30:24
Speaker
so That's wild, man. I think Dom, I've always think Dom was probably one of the better wrestlers, like, because he's been killing it character-wise. Yeah. And they've been booing the shit out of him right when he get the mic to his damn mind. They booed the shit out of him. And then you saw last year, the same time last year, Mania started turning around when he started getting those actual cheers. Yeah.
01:30:53
Speaker
uh for for winning the icy belt at mania last year so that's when he started seeing the shift i was like man y'all y'all late to the car now y'all like your boy you just need a new stylist that's all
01:31:09
Speaker
that's crazy Dirty Dom Mysterio, and you see I'm looking like his daddy right now, just stunting. ah No, um where do Hot Shag Shag go? Come back so I can rip his ass about the Transformers. You kind of look like a Transformer, really.
01:31:28
Speaker
was going to say he looks more like Psycho Clon or Pagano right now. No, you look like the fish from Hellboy. What's my man? What's my man?
01:31:39
Speaker
ah a to What was his name? The amphibian? That Rey Mysterio was not all that. Also, i think I think the ghost of Eddie Guerrero was what took my ah my my Internet out.
01:31:54
Speaker
um But no, before Jake was so was so ignorant to say such a blasphemous statement um as such. Let's be honest. I think that Ray Mysterio is a legend in this game and was at the same level at Eddie Guerrero when Eddie Guerrero died. I don't think that Eddie Guerrero winning a championship in WWE did anything more to help Ray.
01:32:14
Speaker
Does anybody agree with Jake on that? I kind of do. I think there's a argument to be had. I mean, there's no, like, you can't deny the coincidence of Eddie's passing, Ray kind of, and I'm not saying like he used it, but he was mourning his brother.
01:32:34
Speaker
Yeah. he leveraged and And the crowd embracing that. Like, there's a definite connection to it because he was not on a championship push before Eddie passed. I mean, he was at, ah he was,
01:32:46
Speaker
They came into WWE at the same level. Eddie Guerrero, yes, did get ah did get a little bit ahead with the whole light sheet steel gimmick that got really over. But I don't think Rey Mysterio was that far behind.
01:33:00
Speaker
he wasn't on the push though because it was not hey let's make ray change it wasn't that he he was when he was one he was more like david uh take down goliath bush or gimmicky type use him as a ah small little uh mexican guy taking down the big wrestlers uh he was where penta is right now that's fair that's fair but He's a fan favorite, crowd favorite, but they they not it's not about to be, okay, Penta, about to go against Cody Rhodes next week. No.
01:33:36
Speaker
a Although if it should be. Why do we keep having these amazing debuts and then you don't do nothing with these people? Penta came in and he had the crowd rocking with that whole entrance. Like everybody was over. And now you've just let him waste as a mid-carder.
01:33:53
Speaker
it's not they you See, that that right there, Omar, is the AEW way of thinking. That is the AEW way of thinking. a Because I get what you're trying to say. Pence is a world champion in other companies.
01:34:09
Speaker
But... They do things differently in wwe wwe You know this. But look what they did with Hobbs. They debut him at Royal Rumble and then he goes MIA for six months. And we'll see the dude.
01:34:20
Speaker
What was the point of bringing him in for that Royal Rumble pop then? I mean, the same they did the same thing with Jade two years before. Now she's a world champion. So your argument is new.
01:34:32
Speaker
I mean, just because you learned late doesn't mean that you shouldn't have learned before. And yeah and the Rey Mysterio tournament, I would ah i would um don't agree with J-Con, only because Rey's won two world titles since.
01:34:47
Speaker
Yeah, but I mean, that like he's already climbed a mountain, so it's easy to say... I mean, at the time, yeah, sure. Ray only won that world title because Eddie passed away, but I wouldn't say he's not one of the greatest luchadores of all time. No, it's not there i'm definitely not saying that. right that yes he's argu He's one of the greatest wrestlers of all time.
01:35:06
Speaker
However, and if youre dar he made he only became a world champion at that time because Eddie passed. And then if you dig it if you really dig deep into it, Eddie wasn't even going to hold that world title for long.
01:35:19
Speaker
Because it seemed like you were they were going for a match with him and Shawn at that year's WrestleMania.
01:35:26
Speaker
Hey, Mar, if you want to um add your channels back, my bad, you can. I apologize. ah You don't have to. um go ahead. No, no, no. i I can see people's ah you know case to have some validity ah of the timing of, but I mean, at the end, when it comes to this match, man, i i I am kind of, and i well, I guess when you know you've been kind of kicked out your club and and it's probably like the last resort is to go to the demon inside of you to defeat them. I i guess this why you bring demon ballad.
01:36:10
Speaker
I mean, to me, I agree with you. I think that it is an important enough event as WrestleMania for you to bring it out. And he does have to bring it out every once in a while, right? Yeah, wait but come on. The moments that he brought it out, it was to match forces with somebody of another deadly force. Like, literally, Dominic Mysterio, that scary? You got to bring it out?
01:36:34
Speaker
I'm not fucking with dirty dog. He might, he might s slash my tires. i little yeah You know, his his little little, little, slight, slight little, a little beard in the drunk tank. Yeah. Ha ha.
01:36:45
Speaker
like ah ah I'm just confused on why we, wow why, why does that, your opponent is is so supposed to be the reason why you bring out the demon. Like, Dominic Mysterio is just a ah guy that that needs the rest the club to help him like lie in cheek to win. Like, that doesn't warrant the demon to come out. Like, you, like you were facing forces when like ah going against, you know, God rest his soul when he was going against Bray Wyatt. That made sense.
01:37:18
Speaker
like that made sense if you're going against an attacker let me bring the demon out forces forces that makes total sense you know domisterio i got i need the demons man i i i dig that argument i do but i think it is because you know of how he got screwed over and it's supposed to be like oh i'm so mad that i'm bringing you know the demon out sort of thing like If you don't get your ass out there, just whoop Dr. Mysterio's ass.
01:37:49
Speaker
We talking about Ben Ballard. We literally probably, if we really being talking for real. Probably one of the best wrestlers walking God's green nerf right now. you tell me, I need you to get the demon to beat Dominic Mysterio.
01:38:04
Speaker
It's because of the outfit. Fair. skeleton It is. It's the entrance. You know how cool that entrance is going to be over there. You know that's going be cool. going to be dope. And they better put a shade on the roof this time and keep the dark out.
01:38:18
Speaker
Or keep the light out. And get a little bit dark in there so it don't look crazy in the in the middle of the afternoon. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's the other thing. It's going to be in the middle of the afternoon. you It's like the demon has all the dark entrance. It's not even going to be dark.
01:38:32
Speaker
<unk> like no i need It needs to be the second to last match on the card. No, no. Hopefully he figured that one out and be like, yeah, let's let's lets put a shade on this top room or something. Who do you got? You got Aller then or Mysterio?
01:38:48
Speaker
No, I just got to win because he, I mean, don't bring out the demon to lose. they fuck Yeah, I agree. Yeah, you can't have the demon. lose yeah no i completely agree And Dominic doesn't need it. Dominic is is not over in a good way, but he's over. Like you said, anytime he touches that mic, that heat that he generates is otherworldly. And when you have somebody like that, you got to leverage that. Go ahead Bobby g no uh do you think you guys think that this is kind of going to be an ongoing theme for the rest of the year where you got okay finn baller having to go to a dark place you see randy orton having to go to a dark place cody happened to go to a dark place uh drew and fat suit like everybody seems to have to go to a dark place the old dark place in wrestling yeah anything is that is that going to be the theme of the year ah
01:39:39
Speaker
Lazy-ass writing, yeah. Lazy writing. That's a wrestling trope from the I got to go deep into a dark place. Motherfucker, they been doing that shit since the bro. They got to go deep into a dark place.
01:39:55
Speaker
It just seems like everybody's doing it this particular No, you're right. No, you're right. That is a very keen observation, my friend. um Yeah, okay. Who knew they they had a darkness retreat in Vegas?
01:40:07
Speaker
ah ah ah Yeah, I got Valor in this one, too. So no doubt about that. right, cool. ah Mar, I believe you were had not picked your match yet, right?
01:40:19
Speaker
Let's go ahead and do that then. Go ahead and give us your Saturday evening matchup. Let me get it back on the screen. Sunday night. me one Sunday night. Thank you, AP. All right. And where is the image? There it is. Boom. All right. What you got? Man, I ain't even going lie to you, man.
01:40:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I love Jade and Rhea. I love them both actually. ah I actually think this match, if they they leave the little goon squad out of this situation, I don't even know what the point of having each in and be fab.
01:41:02
Speaker
If we can get just... So stupid. Yeah. You're telling me, like you said earlier, you're telling me this person beat the shit out of me and all of a sudden i' supposed to join forces with them? Like it's all happy-go-lucky? Yeah, hear you're beating the hell out of me, too. And she's running back like, oh, okay, I want to be your friend. Man, you beat the respect in me. I like you. To hell? No. I think...
01:41:21
Speaker
ah how ah he ah didn't know ah i think Jade athletically can match her here.
Women's Division and Championship Discussions
01:41:34
Speaker
Matter of fact, she's the bigger woman in this situation.
01:41:38
Speaker
And if we talk about Trick is is is a star just oozing machismo, Jade has always been like the physical ah just oozing star. Just look at her She looks like Mark.
01:41:53
Speaker
And she's always had the look is, you know, and I will give her credit. She has improved her game in the ring. um You know, some people are a little bit impatient. They feel like she's not advanced enough for them. and That's their own problem. I think she's cool in my book. um You know, once she started relaxing a little bit more, not being so robotic. So I think she's finally only starting to get the gist of just being herself comfortable.
01:42:20
Speaker
uh and the works there
01:42:26
Speaker
i love reading but i gotta to be honest you know like why she got me in the title picture mine like in the like For real. that's I told you, that's their that's their their golden girl now.
01:42:45
Speaker
They said, forget Charlotte. We we like Rhea. I swear it's like they panicked. like, oh, yeah, man. like Yeah, I know she's the champion, but are we sure we like her enough to be the... How about we've just given find a way to give to Rhea? Why?
01:43:02
Speaker
And give me Jade in this one. Hey, man, I'm all Jade on this. month Come on, Jade. oh You know what? I agree. I agree because I think that Rhea Ripley, has for as good as a wrestler she is, and she's a damn good wrestler and a good character too. um ah Jay Gargill is just like Trick trick Williams, just dripping superstardom. AEW fumbled that so badly. When they had her on that Bill Goldberg-like streak, they should have just kept running with that shit, and they didn't, and they let her get away to the competition.
01:43:35
Speaker
And now it's hurting them I'm going to honest. I'm going tell you why they fumbled her. They had her on like a 50-win streak or some shit, whatever it was. Well, it – The win streak wasn't a problem.
01:43:47
Speaker
It was just that they never really found a way to develop her. i and that's most wre most of Most of the wrestlers they have. That's what I'm saying. Name name me an up-and-comer actual AEW that started at AEW and has worked at AEW.
01:44:06
Speaker
cannot. And became a star in AEW. Maybe Darby Allin. Possibly... MJF and Darby Allin are the only two I can think of MJF is the only one to me I don't even see Darby Allin being that big of a star well he is for them he's one of their main four for you Jack Perry but Jack Perry ain't up there either though i So I can give you MJF as ah as as a legit star, as an AEF-er from the McGinnon.
01:44:40
Speaker
I can give you that. That's one. But other than that, they're not producing stars, man. They've been around for It's 2026. They've at least been around for like six, seven years, eight years.
01:44:52
Speaker
Eight years now, probably, yeah. Or COVID, because I remember they did the opening. The majority of the stars are established people that came from somewhere else. And that's what killed WCW.
01:45:04
Speaker
So, yeah and J was supposed to be one of their products that was supposed to be an up-and-comer. for facts And so, look at look at the batting average. If this was baseball, they'd be batting under 100, bro.
01:45:17
Speaker
and It ain't good. So, I can't blame J why it just didn't work out in the AEW. WWE knows how to develop talent.
01:45:29
Speaker
And you don't necessarily have to go to NXT to do it. that's People are mad. Oh, why did you debut at the Rumble and then we don't see you months later? Well, they're developing. They are cooking her.
01:45:40
Speaker
They are cooking Royce Keys. They are cooking Hobbs. Royce Keys? What a stupid name. What a stupid name. you have of He had influence on it. So, I mean, you know. It was his mother's name. was his mother's last name. So, yeah.
01:45:56
Speaker
Oh, my God. Okay, I didn't know that. That makes sense then. Okay, I'm cool with that then. All right. I thought they gave him the name. No. thought they were trying to be like a main voice. He did that in honor of his mother, so. Oh, well, then I apologize I take it back, sir.
01:46:09
Speaker
Thank you. So, i mean, look, Jade, I think I like Jade in this matchup for sure, but I hope it is Jade. Okay, I agree. I agree. Hey, Pete, you were looked very consternated over there. Not constipated, consternated. Consternated.
01:46:25
Speaker
For marks out there that don't know the dictionary, that just means looked like he was struggling with this. Sir, you need to take that thesaurus you have there, shine it up real nice, and stick straight up your ass. AP, who do you got in this one? SmackDown, as we've said throughout both of these shows, has been booked terribly.
01:46:48
Speaker
Horribly, terribly. It has been bad. It has been awful. We're hitting the hard reset and mommy is going to be on top. She's winning this title. e We are going to hard reset. We are going to, we are going to hard reset SmackDown after WrestleMania.
01:47:06
Speaker
It needs a hard reset. I agree with you, Mara. I think Jade's going to be a ah star, star in the making, a star of the future, but in their eye and in their eyes, if if the show's being booked poorly right now,
01:47:23
Speaker
They're going to throw the title back on Rhea. They're going to. So I've got Rhea winning. I mean, ah that's not far-fetched at all. She's the golden girl, so I can see it. Bobby G. Nope. He's going to be Kermit sipping his tea real quick. He's about to go Stephen A on me. I have a feeling.
01:47:46
Speaker
if Jay Cargill fucking sucks. Let's stop playing. She's terrible. oh my god She can't wrestle. She sucks on the microphone. like That's why you got bashing out. She's a good mic.
01:48:02
Speaker
um That bitch. You sound like Lil' Kim in the ninety s yeah I love Lil' Kim. Don't do that. It's 2020.
01:48:12
Speaker
it don't fly she she's not that bad and of a wrestler she's she needs to get better but she's not horrible she botches something every single match okay every match now growing aw development that's a w develop that's why you got your eyebrow busted like stop hating on ria man they like they try to give these chicks a chance and they they can't carry the weight You're such a real stand. You're such a real stand.
01:48:43
Speaker
I am. I'll admit it. But let's let's keep it above. We just talked about Rey Mysterio. Jay Carver wouldn't be champion if re Naomi didn't get pregnant.
01:48:56
Speaker
I don't know. They would have gotten keep way to put the belt on her. atna naomiomi was killing hold that hold out and hold on keep it a book Naomi was it. I can't agree with that. I can't agree Jade is on a different brand.
01:49:13
Speaker
See, that's a different championship. day No, no, it's not. It's the same one. No, that is not, Bobby. That is not the same championship. The championship that Naomi dropped is the one that is on Stephanie Vercure's shoulder right now. So in all essence, Stephanie Vercure is happy that Naomi got pregnant. If we call in it a tune now.
01:49:32
Speaker
She is absolutely happy that ah Naomi got pregnant because Stephanie Rekir, even how hot she came up, you know, Naomi. But Jay would be, she would be relevant she would be relevant because they remember that was the storyline, her versus Naomi.
01:49:49
Speaker
So she wouldn't be a champion. She would be chasing Naomi and Naomi would be kicking her ass all up and down raw. They're on different brands, bro. it She would have followed her. That was the storyline. Her her bashing, that's why she got bashed in the head and kick kicked from Mania Latta. When was she got pushed ah onto the no to the windshield? when that That was Lazio.
01:50:13
Speaker
That's what I'm saying. And then she came back to interrupt the Elimination Chamber. Yeah. Naomi got the championship. Jay was our already on SmackDown. She's feuding with Tiffany Stratton and all this shit. a did Naomi was also on SmackDown at the time. She didn't flip until she cashed in the money in the bank.
01:50:34
Speaker
It's the same night as that No Holds Barred match. You may be right. Hold on. oh don Okay, Bobby. Okay. i'm you cook it You're cooking. but Either way, Jade wouldn't be champ. She would be chasing them. No, but i guess I guess what I'm not understanding is are you saying Jade would have never been champ or just not right now?
01:50:54
Speaker
No, they got money invested, so they were made to happen. But what I'm saying is... ah she would got quickly pushed to the bottom. They would seen that she ain't it. Again, this is where injuries and kind of, don't want to say boredom, but... You know, it to be fair, Bobby... I can't agree with that. I just can't. I think would have started. Let me ask you this.
01:51:15
Speaker
Did you see Jay Carbill in AEW? No. Okay. But it doesn't matter. oh it does your base goes No, it does matter. It does matter. She got way better, bro. It completely does.
01:51:29
Speaker
because trose terrible That's like saying do you not know' like saying did you see that Sam Darnold in college. i like It don't matter. I i will make it one i will take one don matter bob i'll take it one further, Bobby. The only reason Jade has a title is there was nobody else to give it to.
01:51:45
Speaker
Exactly. That's wild, bro. Come on. Bianca got hurt. Naomi got pregnant. Everybody else did a tag team. They could have gave it to Charlotte.
01:51:56
Speaker
They have gave it to Becky. They could have gave it to Angel. People complained about Charlotte. That's why they pushed her to the tag division. so People complained about Charlotte coming back and getting the shot right away. Y'all know it. yeah but Everybody was pissed when she came back and got the media match. Yeah, you're right. No, you're right. They weren't. You're right. She's the only one left.
01:52:17
Speaker
i'm like she That's not true. It is. They just took it off Rhea to give it to Io. She's the only one left. here's Here's the deal. screen if you in the tag team d have no business putting baile uh, Alexa, bliss ah na ah ah Nia Jax all former champi for what?
01:52:42
Speaker
and you want your If you you want to build your division for your women's division. There it is. No, we have to clear a path for this trash chick oh because my being her beating anybody else makes zero sense.
01:52:58
Speaker
Like, okay, just like just like now, why do you think she's facing Rhea Ripley? just don't like her. No, anyway, why do you think she's – No, they're all small in stature. You don't believe freaking ah any of those chicks are going to be Jay Cargill. That's why they moved off a Mighty Mouse chick. You don't believe she could really beat Jay Cargill. So they had to get somebody.
01:53:23
Speaker
Nia Jackson, Lash hasn't built up enough. And Nia Jackson, so they got the tag. They rolling right there. got reals the only person with the stature you think oh she could she could beat shit out jay carl and you had her mop the floor with freaking tiffy so you nobody wants to see that again you literally made it so that the only matchup she can have is rhea ripley That I can agree with you on in this. that Okay.
01:53:48
Speaker
Okay. I can accept that. I can rock. Everybody else is either hurt or, again, in the tag team oh but but but it doesn't but day But ultimately, it doesn't matter because they were going to put the belt on her at some point.
01:54:00
Speaker
They brought her here for that reason. Yeah, I agree ands on point at some point. But she has it now because they didn't have a choice. and but Yeah, but I think the writers kind of to kind of wrote themselves into that corner and and to where Bobby's pointing at because I don't think if you're going to have the tag team division, I'm cool with that. With like giving me actual tag teams as, hey man, we came up together. we' We've been like,
01:54:28
Speaker
Remember when they had the Iconics, the Inspirations, or whoever they're called now? They had them. They had a couple of others. Hell, you had Caden Carter and Captain Zero was a tag team, whatever funky-ass name that they had. like They never really cared about the tag team division, and then they always said, oh, We care about it now, but so how do you get it to care about? Well, let's take a whole bunch of former champions and just throw them in the tag teams. and yeah but what up they did Yeah, but also remember she was in it, but they got, again, her partners.
01:55:00
Speaker
Got broke up. Yeah, but my thing is, is when you take that emphasis of trying to point into a push up the tag team the division, you automatically handicap your singles champions because now you make the pool of your competition so small because you didn't do half of them into a tag team in the tag team division. Well, not not only that, but you also now have more female belts. I know at the time you had the u s You didn't have the IC yet. Then they introduced that.
01:55:26
Speaker
But Rhea Ripley wins. Bianca Belair is going to cost Jade Cargill the belt. She's going to come down there and smack up ah Jade's goons. Oh, Bobby G with the with the with the match twist here in this one. That's a good one. I like it. I do hope that happens. I do like that.
01:55:44
Speaker
They need to be having that feud. They should. yeah Look at look at it last year's women's division. After Naomi passes in and goes to Monday, who else other than Tiffany – was really ah legit challenge. Because are you going to throw Chelsea in there? Are going throw Julia in there? yeah Well, hold on on. My thing is, I don't even know why Chelsea Green isn't in any type of conversation when it comes to a world championship. Because we're talking about the ah all-around entertainer. yeah What box does he not check?
01:56:15
Speaker
Yeah. He checks all the Yeah, she didn't broke her nose 15 times. Y'all got to reward her. like that She got thrown in a damn garbage can. Her ladder bump was sick. Like, what are we doing? in in And to another point, too, that you just made, Bobby, i it when you take the pool and throw it into the tag team, not only did it kill your women's champions, but didn't you add more – women's belts that I see in the US. s Now it kind of almost throws them in the same situation with the women's championship where they're kind of lost in translation. like do you ah the Especially the women's US championship. I'm like, i okay, Julia, now you what, two-time champion? a
01:56:59
Speaker
yeah You can't even sniff a a kickoff show on WrestleMania. Like, you know what I'm saying? Again, this is just how badly SmackDown has been booked because Jade's only had like two defenses since she became champion. Julia's, they've been changing that belt just randomly for no reason.
01:57:18
Speaker
Meanwhile, you've got somewhat of a build with the IC title because it's on Becky and AJ. And then, you know, the Women's World title, I mean, yes, it's only been on Stephanie and Liv lately, but at least you can't see that.
01:57:32
Speaker
Y'all gonna hate me for this talk. okay mom I love Zelina Vega. And I like Aleister Black. But it's so crazy that they just, like, they should have paired them together a long time ago, knowing that they was married.
01:57:49
Speaker
And I really just don't like the fact that they got rid of Scarlett and Canyon Cross to give me Aleister Black as Alina Vega, the Puerto Rican version of that shit. And I'm just like, I'm just like, he had that.
01:58:06
Speaker
And like, and that, I, ah Just for me, that character just does not fit Zelina Vega. I don't know what fits Zelina Vega because we don't know her personality. I know she's a gamer on online. I know she does that stuff.
01:58:20
Speaker
yeah Obviously, she does a lot of the gaming influence in her gear in in some of the big shows. i It's just not fitting. i I'm lost with the whole Zelina bit. in all i I get she's willing to support her her husband, and you know but it just got really let go of Karrion Carlson and Scarlett to just give us the Alistair Black and Puerto Rican version of that.
01:58:47
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I somewhat agree. I cannot fully agree because I am Puerto Rican myself. So in in in the love of my brethren, I'm happy that Selena is getting put on. But yeah, I mean, yeah you had Scarlett and Karrion Karrion Karrion
01:59:04
Speaker
Yeah, but then they put the U.S. championship on her and really just kind of let that shit go to water. Yeah, that's true. I mean, yeah, she's not a champion. She shouldn't be like a world champion or anything. But I do like them together as like a couple's kind of – and, yeah, maybe they should have kept Scarlett and Carrion and then had them feud with each other. Maybe that have been a good – But anyways, all right, we're not going everybody on too much later because I know y'all getting tired. see y'all yawning a little bit. AP's eyes closed about five minutes ago for about 10 seconds.
01:59:34
Speaker
ah So I think he's falling asleep. Let's go ahead and get on to the rest of these matches here. So first of all, let's go ahead and hit this six-man ladder match. Like I said, I'm super excited about this match, just wanting to see the match in general.
01:59:47
Speaker
um So I really don't care about the winner. But I do think at this point, you have to either give it to one of two competitors, and that's either A, you give it to Penta, who again, you should have been pushing majorly since he got there, or you give it to Javon Evans because you want him to get the push as the youngster. The rest of them don't make sense for any of them to win this match.
02:00:10
Speaker
um So i am I think they should have pushed Penta better when he got here. I think Javon Evans is going to be great, um and he still has time. He's still very young. I'm to say they go with Penta here.
02:00:22
Speaker
and in this matchup. AP, who you got? Penta. Penta. Penta. El Cero. Miedo.
02:00:33
Speaker
Bobby G. That boy shouldn't be in the match, man. if you go I know y'all been saying ah your boy should be out.
02:00:48
Speaker
No, I mean, no, but you've taken out, a um, JD McDonough. Take out Ray, man. it I'm anti-old, man. Bella Twins, take your asses home. Ray, take your ass home. He was the only one here. What are you talking about? chip Put Ray Phoenix in there. Put Ray Phoenix in there. hey yes so yeah All you old guys trying to advance, it's all over, baby. Take it like a man.
02:01:13
Speaker
yeah bar six Let's the next generation come up, man. Heard that. I'm all you got there. ah Man, I think you narrowed it down to the two people that that makes it. So I'm kind of torn. So I really don't know um between those two. um I might make a decision by time we get there. All right. Fantastic. Why is Rusev in it?
02:01:37
Speaker
I don't know. a But I will say – Here's the thing. I'll tell you why. they were doing Because they brought him back, and they have not given him what the didn anything that he deserved. They have treated him like a damn stepping stone. That Dottie Brook match was great. Don't piss on that.
02:01:54
Speaker
That Dottie Brook was No, I'm saying he deserves better. What the hell did you bring him back for? You should have left him in AEW. Also, in case you're wondering, they did number one contenders matches for these spots on main event. So – yeah well great i know it's time we that I'm glad somewhere the mainstream can watch. don't even know where to fuck to watch main event. YouTube. It's part of their plan to make you to watch their YouTube channel. like yeah Which is why they also have AAA on their YouTube channel for free every Saturday night. Now that I watch. I will watch the pay-per-views. Not their
Event Streaming and Match Predictions
02:02:31
Speaker
regular show. Well, they are...
02:02:32
Speaker
and well they are They also lost their NBC contract and that's why standing deliver was on YouTube. I was like, I was wondering, not I was like, where's the end of deliver? I was looking at peacock. I was looking on all the different streaming and outside on YouTube. I was like, what is this pay-per-view on YouTube? Let's just do what Stephanie told you to do. Get a VPN and use Netflix.
02:02:56
Speaker
There you go. So you can cheat the system. Why not? ah Shout out, Tina. Not Predator versus Avatar. Just a little wrestling. WrestleMania talk. Appreciate you tapping in, though. Shout out Rock Chalk. Best true crime on YouTube. Y'all tap in at Rock Chalk true crime. What was that, AP? What are laughing about? Probably to the Dominic.
02:03:13
Speaker
Finn Balor pictured this Predator, the Alien Predator Comet. Oh, is that what it was? Yeah, you know what? That's a really good point. I did not realize that. Yes, that's what she was talking about. Good call. All right, cool. Final two matches of this evening. um We'll save, obviously, the main event for last. Obafemi, Brock, Lesnar. Wow.
02:03:33
Speaker
This is going to be a, probably, it could be, I'm not going to say it will, could be the best match of the weekend. ah Oba, I see you moving down there, AP. I see you. Oba.
02:03:47
Speaker
Oba. right, what you got, AP? Yeah, Oba in five minutes. Wow. Wow, a squash match over Lesnar? Remember what happened when Goldberg came back in 2017? Oh, I do.
02:04:01
Speaker
That's exactly what's going to happen here. Oba's going to squash him. Wow. All right. Bobby G, what you got? Yeah, I got over. if If it hasn't been obvious that Brock hasn't been putting him over the whole time with the whole, you know, step on my chest. and like So shout out to Brock for doing it, being a pro and doing that first off.
02:04:21
Speaker
um in here Yeah, again. To get the Brock rub, that's crazy. For Brock to put you over, he don't put nobody over. Yeah, I'm just, you know, again, thiss it's the, you know, hey, the NXT guys, they they got next.
02:04:35
Speaker
ah Go over, you know. Yeah. It's funny because I remember at the Royal Rumble ah when, ah who was it? Somebody tried to come in and get some some some licks in on Lesnar in the corner. I don't remember if it was McDonough or Finn Balor or somebody. He was just like,
02:04:53
Speaker
Who the fuck? He just like moved him out of the way. it was not It was not scripted. It was crazy. I was like, yeah. Yeah, that shows that Brock Lesnar, if he gets you his his word, if he's letting you treat him like a stepping stone, you've got big, big plans in this industry. Mark?
02:05:11
Speaker
Yeah. um I know he I was talking about is Randy Orton might be on his retirement tour. I think Brian might just kind of because this contract is expiring the next year or so. so I'm pretty sure he's not eager to re-sign up, re-up up, and then just kind of go off and say, hey, nothing left for Brett to prove, really. Well, let's be completely honest, too. It was after the McMahon stuff where he had to go away for a little bit because of all the allegations.
02:05:44
Speaker
So they probably only agreed to do one run for the best mutual sides of both parties because keeping him in for too long, you start to unearth some of those things again. Well, hey, still sails and moves some some needles.
02:06:00
Speaker
Squeeze what you can out of it. Oberfemi is also turning into and the next big needle mover, so it makes sense. My only caveat, I'm going with Oberfemi.
02:06:11
Speaker
I wish this is a no-hose bar, like Falls County Anywhere match. um You got two behemoths like this, like let them tear up the whole damn place, bro. Mm-hmm.
02:06:22
Speaker
Yeah, i agree. I agree, and I hope it's not a squash match. Like AP said, I want to see a good match between these two, but I do agree that with these two big, heavy hitters, it's very hard to do a lot in a match.
02:06:35
Speaker
um You know, Brock personally only has suplexes as his main move, um and Obafemi, great wrestler, great presence, but still only has like three or four moveset.
02:06:46
Speaker
So it' it's a little they're a little restricted. in the amount of time they can go. So you are right about that. I think that would they could not go longer than 10 minutes anyways, even if they if they chose to.
02:06:58
Speaker
All right, cool. um Well, yeah, but Obafemi is the next big thing. By the way, Jake wanted to go through this on the show tomorrow, but I want to ask it now. Jake wants to know who if everybody thinks that Obafemi is the next Brock Lesnar.
02:07:11
Speaker
I know he brought that up at the beginning of the show. Do you all believe that he will be pushed into the future as the Brock Lesnar? I think it could be something bigger. Yeah. Wow. Okay.
02:07:23
Speaker
There you go. All right. Awesome. Let's move it into the main event. AP, you chose this match, so we will start with you. Roman Reigns, CM Punk, what you got?
02:07:34
Speaker
ah love I love how this match has been built. I really do. And you look at it and you're you're thinking, well, you know, some things probably shouldn't have been said. All this shouldn't have been.
02:07:45
Speaker
Last night was, to me, made all of the bill worth it because you didn't see any anger. You didn't see any yelling. They were just calmly talking to each other, just telling each other oh how why they were so envious of each other. And it all made sense.
02:08:03
Speaker
Punk gets the reaction from the crowd that every wrestler, wishes they can get. Guy's been gone for 10 years. Guy's been out of wrestling for from eight to 10 years.
02:08:17
Speaker
They still chanted his name in every arena, every crowd, whether it was a house show, whether it was an indie show, w WWE, what have you, they still chanted for CM Punk. Mm-hmm.
02:08:32
Speaker
On the bright side, on the other side, Roman, again, basically being given everything. You pointed at this out earlier, I think, Omar, is where earlier on, Roman was shoved down our throats only because Vince was like, they'll get they'll get used to him. he they'll He'll get over eventually.
02:08:50
Speaker
It took the world ending, and Roman like, you know what? I got to be myself for him to finally win over the fans and become the tribal chief.
02:09:01
Speaker
So that little bit of storytelling, I think, was the icing on the cake. And I know a lot of people weren't really happy that it ended that way on ah on a go-home show. But it was the icing on the cake that this feud really needed to maybe go like, yes, this is the main event of the entire weekend, and I cannot wait for this match.
02:09:23
Speaker
Okay. Yeah, no, i mean, all good points. I think that... As you mentioned, CM Punk is lethal on the mic. Now, did he give another pipe bomb promo? No, I think people really overreacted on that. Was it a good promo? Sure.
02:09:38
Speaker
Did he say some stuff like the dog food thing with McMahon and stuff? Cool. Little digs here and there. But it wasn't a pipe bomb promo, so everybody please calm down on that. um One thing you did say, AP, which I completely agree with, Roman Reigns.
02:09:52
Speaker
Wow. I have never in my life seen a turnaround like that from someone being so hated to so loved. Like you said, they pushed him down their throats. Everybody hated Roman Reigns. No one wanted to see him. They wanted Dean Ambrose to come back from AEW. That's what they wanted.
02:10:10
Speaker
They didn't want Roman Reigns. They wanted Seth Rollins. want Roman Reigns. But then all of a sudden, just... Come out some way by God's green earth. He done turned around.
02:10:21
Speaker
And now everybody raises the ones and calls themselves the tribal chief, as we do with Bobby T, the tribal chief of podcasting, my friend. Go ahead. took um Yeah, which I got Reigns winning the match.
02:10:35
Speaker
But ah I agree with AP. Like the the promo the other night was beautiful. You know what mean? If you're a fan of. But it wasn't a pipe bomb promo. Yeah. But it didn't have to be, and that that's what made it beautiful. okay if i'm fan of ah ah yeah I'm a huge fan of gangster movies. One of one of the greatest gangster movies of all time is is a movie called. New Jack City.
02:10:57
Speaker
Nah, Heat. Heat, yes, yeah, Al Pacino. And one of the best scenes in that movie was Al Pacino and Robert De Niro. ah are at a diner having a cup of coffee.
02:11:08
Speaker
They're enemies in this movie. One's a cop, one's a criminal. And they're sitting down having a cup of coffee talking like gentlemen. And at the end of conversation, it's like, you know, even though we're here having this conversation, if it comes to the point where I gotta take you down, I won't hesitate.
02:11:26
Speaker
And then vice versa, Pacino says the exact same thing. And that' like that's what that promo was to me. It was like, two guys like we done been through the fifth cup, but look, I hate you because of this. I hate you because of that.
02:11:39
Speaker
And, ah you know, Sunday, we're going to get it in and see what's what. That's all you need. That was great way to bring it home.
02:11:47
Speaker
I don't know what just happened there. My bad, yeah. There we go. um So you got Roman Reigns then? Yeah, I think, yeah. um ah Aside from friend the fact that i just hate CM Punk, man, you owe this hell to take your ass on. But, yeah, I got Roman Reigns.
02:12:05
Speaker
I mean, you're not going to get any disagreement with me. And I told Mar this yesterday on his program. I'm not a CM Punk fan. Never have been, never was. I went to the military like Bobby G did at that time when CM Punk was really coming into his height of popularity. So I missed pretty much all of that.
02:12:22
Speaker
um And I just never became a fan after that. I thought, sure, pipe bomb promo was good, but give me MJF over CM Punk any day of the week, to be completely honest. so um walk on more what you got for us brother hey this is to me this is this is easy all right this is easy all right old man phil sit your head down and acknowledge your mother tribal chief
02:12:55
Speaker
It's easy. Hey, you can end the show now. You can end the show. I mean, you're right. remember i remember when i Remember when I said Jay was turning heel at the beginning of night one?
02:13:08
Speaker
I'm picking CM Punk. You're picking CM Punk? I'm picking CM Punk because Jay. Jay is going to screw over Roman. So Jimmy's going to screw over Jay's going to screw over the entire family and try to become the new tribal chief.
02:13:27
Speaker
Oh, i like that. I like that. But wait, why wouldn't they have done that a long time ago? That's been a storyline forever that they could have done, and they never did that storyline. Yeah, we all thought it would be the game. We thought that was going to happen already, and it never happened.
02:13:43
Speaker
I don't know that that's the right time do it What bigger way to do it than in the main event of WrestleMania? I mean, I guess. I just think the time has passed. I think WWE just keeps letting the time pass on these things. But I got Punk winning.
02:13:57
Speaker
but You got Punk winning. I acknowledge my tribal chief. Oh! Roman Reigns does not like that. the tribal chief around here. Yeah, you see me. The tribal chief. That's right.
02:14:12
Speaker
That's right, the tribal chief. You see me and you see the victor, Roman motherfucking Reigns. Look, CM Punk doesn't need to win this match. There's no reason for him to win this match. CM Punk is already over, like you said, Alan, without winning this match.
02:14:29
Speaker
ah Roman Reigns is there the fan's newfound glory. As we said, he went from ultimate heel to ultimate babyface somehow. And I can't see them in that momentum when you're right. They do have family issues to solve.
02:14:44
Speaker
You could start a whole new bloodline ah storyline. So I think Roman Reigns wins that for this reason and because CM Punk doesn't need the win, to be honest. And maybe this is a third.
02:14:57
Speaker
We talked about, or no, this would be the, did we? Yeah, maybe this will be a third after Randy Orton and after Brock Lesnar. Could we be seeing a CM Punk retirement? in the next couple years.
02:15:09
Speaker
I mean, his dog died, so he is pretty sad. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. What? That's real. People get attached to that. It is. It is. Yeah. have a question for y'all, though. Well, we'll go ahead, mourn, and drop the belt to the tribal chief and get the hell on. Right. And get the hell on, right? Yeah. Question question for you guys.
02:15:28
Speaker
I don't know if you guys noticed, but I noticed in in a lot of Romans pro promos up to the this point, there's been a lot of we... if you listen to him speak he's been we don't like what you're doing we we we could we have a rock sighting
02:15:47
Speaker
because his angle in trash talking punk has kind of been corporate like you're not like we didn't choose you you know like you it's been business and shit kind of like last year you know where the rock was like you're gonna have to make a choice you got the out out like so could we have a rock sighting Oh, so wait a second. We were supposed to see Rock and Roman Reigns at one point in time before Cody screwed that all up.
02:16:11
Speaker
Could we possibly be lining up for a Rock Reigns WrestleMania next year? Or we yeah or reunion. Or like kind of... i want I'd rather see him fight. but yes Roman becoming that corporate dude, you know what I mean? yeah Or maybe for a little bit and then Rock is like, no, screw you. Roman may be the tribal chief, but Rock is the high chief.
02:16:34
Speaker
And who has the higher rate? The high chief is technically Peter Maivia. You shut your mouth. um i mean i'm want mean to fuel out I mean, modern day, because he's on the board of TKO. He's basically runs the family now. he's definitely He's definitely the leader of the bloodline, if there was a bloodline actually there. I mean, I'm sure there is. But when the Rock comes to the party, Roman Reigns submits, I guarantee you.
02:17:00
Speaker
guarantee you. To the family barbecue, I guarantee you Roman Reigns is, okay, my cousin, I accept. ah Anyways, no, look, Roman Reigns, hey, turn around, he did. Good for him. i can't believe that it happened, but, you know, it did. again, CM Punk, your time is done, bro. I agree with Bobby G. Get your old ass out here. We do not need your ass anymore. Take you and AJ Lee.
02:17:19
Speaker
Pack up your shit and go to go to sleep. That's right. And take your ass home. And for that, ah we are going to go to sleep and take our asses home because my knee is killing me from sitting here for four hours straight.
02:17:31
Speaker
So I got to get up and walk around and go to sleep. But I was so happy to be on here with my brothers. Thank you so much. I appreciate y'all blessing the stream as always and taking time out of your day to help us here at Ball and Buds. What's up, Bobby G?
02:17:46
Speaker
Not going to mention why why why is John Cena the host? Oh, that's right. I forgot he was the host. I forgot. I completely forgot. I completely forgot. go ahead. Talk to us.
02:17:56
Speaker
No, I'm saying, why why is he the host? is Yeah, they they just they turn I don't know. yup that's exactly what it is. Yep. Now, like, wait a second. Maybe
Industry Critiques and Future Plans
02:18:06
Speaker
we can get the Cena one more face time in there. Get a little Cena housing thing going. Cena Howzen.
02:18:15
Speaker
Oh, God, Cena Howzen. Jesus. By the way, though, for such a horrible, because we were on Wildcard Mars show, the live stream, when Dan Howzen debuted in that freaking horrible, horrible debut. Like, if you go back and watch the video, the crowd is so silent. You hear people going, what the fuck is this shit? It's like...
02:18:39
Speaker
but but He turned it around. He turned it around. In all the vignettes and everything he's done, he has made everybody a fan of him. True. Yeah, but he literally, this is AEW Dan Housen. It's the same shit.
02:18:51
Speaker
It really does. No, you're right. I don't know how it works better at w WWE because it's entertainment. but And also, Tony Khan, again, just brings people in just to pay them money and not let them do anything. He brought them in and then sat them on the bench forever. It was like, why are you wasting your money? Kind of like Ted Turner. Kind of like Ted Turner.
02:19:11
Speaker
Yeah, well, Tony Khan and them Jaguars and them London football team got a way longer budget than Ted Turner ever did. You mean the Orlando Jaguars coming soon?
02:19:22
Speaker
oh is Oh, wow. Another prediction from AP. Will we see the Jacks? I mean, Jack, they're moving next year because ah they're doing renovations. Wait, they are moving? it Oh, okay. Yeah, they're doing renovations to the stadium next year. So next year they're gonna be in Orlando.
02:19:39
Speaker
Okay. Well, there you go. There's the news for you there. I didn't even know that. yeah ESPN giving us an update real quick before we get you out of here. Trailblazers and Suns 68 to 62. Trailblazers lead with nine minutes and 48 seconds in the third quarter. ah That being said, let's go ahead and let them know where they can find you while Karl Marr let them know.
02:20:01
Speaker
Hey, man, IOW Sports Network. Awesome to meet up platforms. Casey Lockhart, man, on the Twitter, man. Y'all know where to find you, boy. Appreciate y'all, man. Have me with you. Talking wrestling.
02:20:12
Speaker
Hey, man, can't wait. Hey, there's going to be some shenanigans going this week. who oh Yes, Vegas, baby. That's right. If you're still watching, Mar and I are going to Vegas to meet Bobby G, baby. Let's go.
02:20:25
Speaker
Ayo, dollar sign, 816-KC-BOY. That's the cash app. So yeah we can go ahead and get the ah get the ah bail money for Omar because I ain't getting locked up. I can't.
02:20:38
Speaker
Yes, I am going to be on my best behavior, and I'll be sticking to Wild Card March. That way I don't get myself in trouble. But Bobby G, let them know where they can find you.
Social Media and Closing Remarks
02:20:51
Speaker
Game time to us. Or, yeah, at Game Time, underscore Bobby G. YouTube, also Audible Sports Podcast. Don't tire him fucking up his promos. You know what I'm saying, man?
02:21:02
Speaker
Yep. And across both socials, IG, who's that? TikTok, X, Twitter, whatever. Facebook, at Audible underscore. All that. After you've been podcasting for four hours, that's all you can get for that promo. That's all you can get.
02:21:22
Speaker
Y'all know, look it up. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Edit Perales 30 on X, Twitter, whatever you want to call it. TikTok as well. Maybe YouTube at some point. I don't know. um But also find me on Rec Room Sports Hub.
02:21:37
Speaker
Check this out. you know ESPN 690 every Thursday. Lock it in every Saturday. All that good stuff. All that good stuff. Yep, and so thank you again to everybody that tuned in. We got a couple more comments here. Ronald, Ronish, Dongal, Seth and Gunther cooked. So he's saying Seth and Gunther is going to cook. Hey, Hattig Jake, um or not Hattig Jake, AP, below me, was the one that called that to be the match of the weekend. So if you're right, then AP is right as well. And we will see what happens, and we will be back.
02:22:11
Speaker
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02:22:37
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02:22:55
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