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Trio of Positivity Podcast - Episode 41
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Season 2 Episode 3: The boys have a jam packed episode for you. The conversation starts with Bears impressive 33-6 win highlighting the play of Caleb Williams and the offense under him and then move unto Hard Knocks and summarize the episode for you. The conversation then turns to the bears offense so we can introduce who the key players are and what is the expectations from them. We finish the episode highlighting Top Quarterbacks and Running backs in fantasy this year. Come for Miller's winning picks and stay for Bhupen's hot takes : Bears RB room should be rated how high?
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Transcript
Introduction to Trio of Positivity
00:00:21
Speaker
Welcome to the trio of positivity podcast where we boys examine the Chicago sports scene to bring some positivity into your lives. I hope you can feel the energy we got from the hard knocks yesterday from the preseason game. That's Friday, Saturday, whatever it was Saturday. Oh, this is going to be a great episode. I can feel it already.
00:00:49
Speaker
I am Boopan, joined by my Positive Brigade members. Oh, he's back, baby! He's back! Chris and Miller. What's up, boys? Yes, he's back! It only took two episodes of the new season to finally... Positive Tossie's officially retired. I liked it. Whatever, you guys suck.
00:01:12
Speaker
A quick social plug. We are on Facebook, Trio Positivity Podcast. At X, we are at Trio Positivity. We have a YouTube channel, Trio Positivity Podcast. A website as well with the same name. Keep it posted on some new things happening there with all the formalities
Episode Preview: Bears, Hard Knocks, & Fantasy
00:01:31
Speaker
all the way. Let me tell you about what we are going to talk about today. Boys, we're going to talk about the Bears. They're great. The greatest preseason game ever played.
00:01:41
Speaker
um shit Don't worry, don't worry. That's an episode. Oh my god. Overreaction central. Bearsheimer alert. ah Yeah, that's who I am. Episode two of the Hard Knocks came out late yesterday. Some fans and opinions about that.
Chicago Bears Offensive Analysis
00:01:58
Speaker
We will also check on the Bears offensive unit, the offense overall.
00:02:02
Speaker
oh Who, what's a depth chart look like? What does that look like? Who do we think would be relevant people for you to know? And we'll finish up the episode with our top fantasy quarterbacks and running backs, just so you you guys are prepared for the drafts coming up. You know, bring some positivity into your life. You know what? Give you some fantasy Super Bowl victories. You can represent the trio of positivity fantasy group. o We should do that that. That sounds like a good idea, Miller.
00:02:32
Speaker
um Yeah, no, I am pumped. Fancy season's coming up. um this First draft is Saturday. Let's go. You guys are officially have a draft schedule? I do. Saturday?
00:02:44
Speaker
Wow. Go Miller. Yeah, I don know. It's early. At Cooney's he'll be doing it. But I will be helping him because he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. So, gotta help.
Bears Preseason Game Recap
00:02:56
Speaker
Good luck Cooney. That's the team you've won two years in a row. you You have done these? Two in our last five years. Two in our last five years. We're reigning champs. so Thank you CMC. Booyah! Keep it moving. Alright. This podcast isn't all about me now.
00:03:12
Speaker
talking about champions. The bears were week one preseason champions. They handled them. 33 to six. Well, Christie, yeah, that 33 to six.
00:03:27
Speaker
Yeah, did you hear that, Chris? Your boy, Mitch Trubisky, didn't do shit. So it's coming up. It's up. Listen, you guys are not following the agenda that I worked very hard on. Mitch Trubisky is towards the bottom of when we start talking about him. So let's do this the right way. All right. Thank you. Thank you. um Second coming of Christ, Caleb went for 4 of 7 for 95 yards. ah he He was in for two drives, and it both ended with field goals. So couldn't punch it in.
00:03:55
Speaker
Um, some Caleb Williams didn't throw a touchdown Then trade him get him out of here trade him. That's thank you. Thank you overreaction. Just duck drop them. Yeah, you know what? Cut him. We'll eat the salary 25 and a half million signing bonus. We'll pay that out and we'll just eat everything else. It's yeah We'll do the oh tani drill. Uh the contract will put interest on it or whatever ah um
Bears Defense and Caleb Williams
00:04:20
Speaker
Even though, like, you know, the national media is in love with Caleb right now, it was not all perfectly nearly through an interception. um The play was wiped out by a penalty, but that look
00:04:31
Speaker
that looked a little bad other than that he had a pretty good game I would say you guys can chime in the offense gathered 152 yards on seven first downs over 20 plays in the two possessions he was running he was throwing on the run he was throwing the ball away he was throwing darts he was just seeing people when they weren't there so he was he had a pretty amazing preseason game according to me what do you think the most important thing to look at here is what you just talked about the fact that they gain 152 yards and two drives
00:05:07
Speaker
He did go four for seven for 95. Keep in mind there were two drops in there by wide receivers. He didn't punch it in the end zone, but these were long drives. These weren't dink and dump passes. He was getting chunk plays. He had a great screen to swift where he stayed in the pocket longer than he probably should have to make the screen work for 42 yards. He had a nice bullet for about 20 something yards to come commit. And then he had two solid passes to DJ Moore, both 10, 15 yard plays. So he's throwing the ball down the field. These aren't freaking wide receiver screens like we're used to. So it's good to see the movement in pocket, the movement of progression. he You can see his head moving and and bouncing from guy to guy. We just have never seen stuff like this before. And it's just like, it's very refreshing. It's the first time we've ever seen the guy and he's already made an impression. And this isn't just from my mouth. I've heard it around the league.
00:06:06
Speaker
Um, the national media is coming out and talking about how he's looked really good and, and represented the expectations that were placed upon him. Now, it doesn't mean that he's going to have an amazing year. We obviously have to temper expectations, but just the signs that we're seeing this early is great. Chris.
00:06:29
Speaker
may Yeah. Okay. Well, let's just move on here. I'll give you something to cheer about. Right. There were comparisons being made. Please expand. No, no, no. There was one dump that got them the swift that got on most of the yards. No, 40 yards, 40 yards, 40 out of 97.
00:06:51
Speaker
It's not even half, bro. It's close to it. It's not. It's close to it.
Vilias Jones & Team Roles
00:06:56
Speaker
I mean, here. So here's here's the thing that I will give full credit. what What do you expect? Like, what do you want him to do? It's not. So I guess let me explain.
00:07:07
Speaker
We'll learn already. So it's the one that calls him the second coming of Christ. Let's calm down here. He led two scoring drives. He moved the ball for 152 yards and two drives. First start. First start, by the way. Like, ever. Like, what are you expecting? Do you expect him to score two touchdowns and two drives? No.
00:07:24
Speaker
No, well, would've been nice. Fuck you. here's here's here's Here's my thought process and it's just more or less of kind of what Hard Knocks is bringing into it. It wasn't enough for me to kind of be like, this is where I can see he needs to improve or he doesn't, like it wasn't enough.
00:07:47
Speaker
i mean it's game one like cale it's if you go ten for ten for two hundred no i'm
Hard Knocks: Reality vs. Staged
00:07:53
Speaker
not even saying i'm not even touching that you know mum and like we're hiping seven throws and we're hiping seven throws like that's just This is calm. I'm not hyping seven throws. I just said here, I said, I'm, I'm hyping 152 yards and two drives. That's over 70 yards a drive. And we got points on both. That's what I'm keeping. That's more than we had entire games sometimes last year. Like I'm not hyping. It's 70 season. Okay. Okay. but against that's what they do not hold on but on i just want to bring Okay. I'm glad you brought that up because last year,
00:08:30
Speaker
When Mitch, or not last year, but when Mitch came to to Chicago and lit us up, he was with the bills and I said, well, yeah, that was against starters. What was your answer? That was his fifth year in the league. clear you they not we are no on time on time ahma it was not sad it was not start It was starters.
00:08:51
Speaker
yeah no it was not josh that play He didn't play that preseason game. dead that charters hold play Hold on. Hold on. But the response that Miller gave was who fucking cares? It's preseason.
00:09:03
Speaker
I'm just you're comparing the apples and oranges. You're comparing a guy that has been in the league for years with a track record to a guy in his first career start. There are two different scenarios.
00:09:15
Speaker
hang on like you know who Mitch was at that point just like Justin Fields he came out and he played you know who he is it doesn't matter
Bears Running Backs & Strategy
00:09:24
Speaker
what he does in the preseason it matters what he does in the season because you know who this guy is that's all I'm saying we just have to temper expectations I think people got way too hyped over seven throws I hope to see more next next game that's that's me though i just think we just got a temper expectations i was kidding when i said i'm trying to make fun of people that are hype he needs um chris needs to get um on that ben bandwagon because he is facing closer and closer i don't want to talk shit of the departed but
00:09:56
Speaker
A lot of people, a lot of experts, a lot of good, sound people have said he looks better than Traviski, who's been in the league for six years, and Fields, who's been here for four years. So like just just throwing it out there, that was how good this performance was, but it's okay.
00:10:12
Speaker
We will move on. um Talk about the defense on the other side of the ball in the preseason game. You know, we got 152 yards just from Caleb Drive. We gave a total of 200 yards, the defense did, and the Bills just crossed the midfield twice on 11 possessions. um Chris, this is for you. Trubisky went 10 for 18 for 82 yards with a rating of 67.4 with two sacks, and that's against the second and third team defenses. say you know yeah Mitch played great. We need to bring him back. Mitch. Mitch. No, in all fairness though, he did look more comfortable than he did in in Pittsburgh. I will say that. I don't know if you're watching the same game. I definitely was watching the same game. Chris over here is propping up Mitch and Tara down Kaitlyn. I will say he did look a little bit more comfortable than what I saw and in in Pitt.
00:11:03
Speaker
um but He's playing his equal talent. That's why he looked comfortable. He's playing his equal talent. You might be right on that, but the defense looked really good. The defense looked really good. Especially Austin Booker, who had two sacks, two tackle for loss, three QB hits. I think most of them was against Mitch, just so you know. um just way It It wasn't. Calm down. Both sacks were definitely. They weren't.
00:11:30
Speaker
One was it doesn't matter, man. It doesn't matter who he's bringing up. This is a fifth round pick that for polls traded back into the draft for potentially thick, fill the hole. Everybody was expecting relatively nothing. He's a young guy. He's been compared to the skillset of Mason Crosby, but Max formos max Crosby, sorry, not Mason. that Yeah. Yeah. we crosby kicker in there And for the fact that he's come out and he, I think he has three and a half seconds and two games, he's been a lightning for this defense. He had a good ah hall of fame game he had, and then he followed up with this game. Like this guy's making a splash and it will be interesting to see going forward to see if he starts playing maybe earlier in these games.
00:12:20
Speaker
Yeah, Miller great point like we have a big hole in the defensive end like Matthew Judon who just got traded today He was linked to us because again, we have a big need there But there's I think you'll need some more group like like polishing of this Rookie, but he may fill up the defensive end Roll there. So
Bears Offensive Strategy Preview
00:12:39
Speaker
very excited. Like again defense was stopped here too. Don't don't want to give take any credit away from them um Talking about preseason bears are playing Cincinnati Bengals on Saturday, August 17th ah Chris, I'll throw you over to you to the so you can cover Hard Knocks for us, buddy. Alright, so after HBO lied to us and said that Hard Knocks was gonna be available at a certain time, it wasn't. ah So your boys had to watch it twice. Oh, technically it was. It just wasn't available on HBO Max. Okay. Get it is right. My bad. It was available on HBO? Yeah, it was live.
00:13:15
Speaker
shit um so who a couple live tv life tv couldn't be a um So you can kind of tell that the episode transitioned from it's no longer the Caleb show and it is now the Chicago Bears, ah which about fucking time. um ader No, not because of Caleb, but it's just, again, I understood what they were doing with the first episode. I get it. We had a number one pick. We had Caleb. That's great. But I think a lot of what the Bear fans wanted to see was more of like how the team is going to react to him, how the team is going to and involve itself with a new scheme and all of that stuff. Right.
00:13:55
Speaker
um I did like a lot of the DJ Moore stuff. He's lowkey funny. He's funny. Yeah. I genuinely had a great time ah with that. I want to give a shout out to the running back coach.
00:14:10
Speaker
Um, he really pushes the shit out of his running backs. Oh, yeah. Um, he talks a lot of shit to talk so much shit. I, um, that I don't think that coaching style would work for me. I feel like I need someone more nurturing, but I think I was real. No, it works for me. Just give me that beer pong table and that good partner. I'll knock it all down. Um,
00:14:34
Speaker
The one thing that I truly wished we could have seen more was the actual game and more of like the communication that we see with other hard knock episodes where we got more coach feedback, we got more player your interaction. I felt like the game was rushed and we got more of like the actual training camp of it. So I really hope the next episode is gonna be more in depth of the actual game where we hear the comms, we hear the play calling, we hear we see what they're doing right and wrong.
00:15:03
Speaker
And we didn't really get a recap of the last game. We just kind of went straight into training chem. Granted, it was rained out, um but they had just gone into the training chem and just moved on to the next week. So there's a couple of things that I would like to see different. They talked about the game briefly. They were like, awesome. Yeah, they focused on the quarterback. Awesome read. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that part. No, I agree with you. Like, it was so good to see Jalen Johnson. Like, I don't know if I've ever like, I've seen his press conference, but I've never heard him like actually like have conversation.
Fantasy Football Strategies & Rankings
00:15:31
Speaker
Sounds like a very interesting guy and you know, like he was pissed off about the not making the top 100 and the overall our secondary unit is like ranked like 16th in the league for PFF This is like a month ago. So maybe they updated it but like I think the whole like Cornerback secondary he has like a little chip on their shoulder, but it was so good to see that too um Yeah, JJ going against Keenan who hasn't had a single catch on him. Yeah, that was pretty cool i'm pumped up this should be fun iron sharpening iron baby let's go so and i'm gonna talk about the negatives of the episode and you guys have it in the agenda i'm glad you brought it up in the agenda because it pissed me off
00:16:21
Speaker
Polls doesn't fucking sit in his office and just watch his training camp videos all day. Let's not pretend that some of this shit is staged, okay? no what risk all this time go house hoping let me in was go a and talk about i was gonna bring up the um question of the week okay but continue go ahead I get it. I get it. None of the fuckers had the remote in their hands and they were rewinding the video. That's what pissed me off. Their like polls was not there sitting with the thing like holes deals with technology. You would hope you would hope so. But that's my only knock. That was one. and So do you guys understand who runs the team?
00:17:02
Speaker
The GM fucking runs the team. What do you think they use to grade their players? The coaches? You think he doesn't have an input? You think he relies on them all the time? He's the one that makes the cuts. He chooses who's going to sign on the team, who's going to be traded.
00:17:21
Speaker
But like, ah what do you mean I that he watches practice footage no give you that he doesn't do it all the time but he definitely does it here was my issue he's like oh eighty look sharp today and I to that to And he was in the coaches meeting saying, oh, so how how much are starters playing? I'm just like, bro, it's not. youco miller And I agree with what you were going to say, but Boopin hit the point that I was going to bring up. A lot of those conversations take place when all the coach because we've seen hard knocks, we've seen other seats, the whole coaching staff gout scouting department. That's when they all review it together.
00:18:11
Speaker
I don't think there's ever been a hard and you guys can quote me if i'm wrong i don't think there's ever been a hard knock where you just strictly see a gm just looking at his quarterback like like oh yeah his gm in an assistant gm watching practice footage like practice i don't think i've ever seen it But that goes back to what happened in episode one where it's more of a, Hey guys, we got our quarterback. This is a pro move. We're going to move forward with this. This is the agenda. And I am glad that they kind of steered away from that for episode two. And they looked at the whole, the whole team. I do understand that. Like.
00:18:46
Speaker
maybe he's doing it now because he has two first round picks, right? And let's be honest, this is going to make or break his career. So he has a lot on the line. And these are the first few padded practices. Maybe he, you know, there's more to learn and he was watching it one time. That's what I get. It just looked odd to me. Like there was the Giants, uh, hard knocks right before this. You didn't even know who the other coaches were. Dave all took all the meetings. He would just go to the GM and be like, here's what's going down. We're all good.
00:19:14
Speaker
I'll talk to you tomorrow that's all that happened and like it's a different culture I get it but like the fact that he's in the meeting taking notes being like how many series is he playing how many minutes I'm just like bullshit that does not happen but uh talking about Miller's favorite player the running back stint for Vilas Jones do you think this is his last stop before he gets cut Yeah, I think they're doing everything in their power because it was polls as first offensive draft pick. I think they're doing everything in their power to try to keep this guy on the team, but you also have to understand like.
00:19:50
Speaker
he's gonna if he gets released someone's gonna pick him up I mean he's still early in his career and you don't want to be that person to cut this guy he goes to another team and he's successful as a running back I mean I don't know I haven't liked him last year I didn't want him I mean he just like even the muffed kicks like come on dude do something right man it seems like he doesn't listen or like understand the game because they were talking about hitting the holes and going the right way they were like even the team doesn't know where he's gonna run next it's literally a line in the well I mean he's only been a running back for three days but like I think the issue still remains as a
00:20:30
Speaker
ah returner a kicker turn or two i think you have to see where the protection is and then run follow the blocks he's just like too rush in his head doesn't catch the ball that um him up anyway He just has a unique skill set of when the ball is in his hands, he can make or can be successful. he did score and The problem is getting the ball in his hands because he can't do it on kickoffs.
00:20:51
Speaker
So the only, he can't do it on wide receiver screens. He can't do that either. So the only time to do it is to hand it off to him and hope that that works. So we'll see. I mean, that goes back to what I was saying about the episode two, like another hard knocks, you see those guys get pulled into like one-on-one meetings and then you see them get talked down or you see them tell him like, Hey, this is where you're fucking up. Hey, you should have gone here. You should have gone that. The one thing I did enjoy though, is that that running back coach, which I, his name is not, I don't have it written down. chad morton thank you
00:21:22
Speaker
he gives it to him like on that practice and one of my favorite scenes like one of my favorite scenes was i like no you're not getting low enough like i mean it you need to be lower i love that um Thank This polls and the polls and the coaching staff don't have any ah pressure. It doesn't really look like ah this is a, it doesn't look like they're on the clock or they're on the hot seat. It does look like, given the the way that these episodes are kind of going. We had discussions before. for of not hot seat But we did say the flu smoothie.
00:22:05
Speaker
Flus might be, but that's the opinion outside. It's not inside. You know how this works with the bears. They don't even tell us when extensions are done. I mean, even Flus could have an extension. I mean, I don't know. I guess it's nice to see that they don't have a pleasure. You have very low expectations for Flus. If he wins,
00:22:30
Speaker
eight games, you would consider firing him. That's not me. If he wins seven or eight, I think he's guaranteed a spot. The only chance that I would see him getting fired if they win like four games, four, maybe five. I think maybe he can be considered obviously pending injury. Like if there's an awful injury, like, but I don't think he's that much on the hot seat because it's a new quarterback and because it seems like a lot of the players are on board with him. um So I think really catastrophic failure is the only way where he will be fired. You know, I kind of think about it. Oh, go ahead. boom Sorry. No, I do want to acknowledge your point. He seems like obviously we didn't see this last year, right? But he seems like he's given his coaches like the reins. And he's like kind of like, well, he has coaches this year. He didn't have coaches last year. Like he's like the CEO, you know, he's like he's like talking to people being like hey today, let's get this I'm like, hey guys, let's get a turnover here. Let's get a turnover and then just like have a club Yeah, I love that that during the game He's like, hey, we're not done until we get a score or a takeaway like that We need a score and a takeaway. I love that
00:23:40
Speaker
I think um he seems really like lay, he seems like in control, which is like, I don't think was the image at least early on last season. It's like a lot of shit was going down. and He reshaped his image. You can tell by the hairdo. I was going to say, he reshaped his face at his image. good Good one, Miller. So just to put a nice bow on it, I give this episode a B minus. We need to bring our positive the rating back, boys. I was thinking about this. Sorry, I didn't text you, I don't think.
00:24:08
Speaker
Well, we'll do it now. So episode one, we're doing 10, right? Positivity was a 10. Oh, don't give that look, Miller. Let us let us have our fun. Yeah, let us have our fun. OK, let us have our fun. Episode one, I think I'm going to go ahead and say it was a solid eight. Episode two, eight and a half. Six for episode one. Yeah. Seven, eight.
00:24:36
Speaker
So we all agree this episode was better than one. I think so. Fantastic. I'm glad that we actually fucking agreed on something. All right, with that. Yeah, it was nice, man. Like, fuck. It's good. Let's go. With that, as we stated on the last episode, we are going to do something that we've tried to do every year. And Miller has a great time with it. I tried looking for the theme song that we had when it was a Miller. What was it? Miller's Bear, Bear's Corner.
00:25:05
Speaker
So we were going to try to bring it back. I thought I found the right theme song for it, but I got scared because I did look like it was possibly the MCA. So we're going to do a more joint effort. I not so much me, but with open and Miller. Welcome to the Bears offensive preview. Miller, go ahead and kick it off, baby. like I got this one. You rest, buddy. I got you. I got you. Oh, got the whole thing ready. But all right. No, no, go go play.
00:25:34
Speaker
Go play, we'll do it, whatever you guys do. You wanna play one of the new sounds we just got? I would not be that man. You know what, hold on. Did you, which one, okay, hold on. Let's try this one.
00:25:48
Speaker
Welcome back. Ooh, that felt good. God, that didn't sound like it was bare necessity type stuff. It didn't, it did not at all. Sorry, like literally fucking princesses and rainbows. Bro, bro, you can you hit the guitar solo for me, whatever guitar medley it's like?
00:26:05
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Nope, too long. Presenting from USC. no and dar Number Caleb Williams. Jesus Christ, can I can I take this over? I there was a reason i thought we were doing it, but yeah, go ahead.
00:26:24
Speaker
Awesome. So we're we're talking about the offense. Let's start off the top. Mr. mr Number one pick, number 18, Caleb Williams. um You know, ah he is a rookie, but rookie with a very high expectation because he's the number one overall pick. Looks like the consensus expectation is that he will be a top 15 quarterback at the end of the year. It looks like I'm going to ask something to say. yeah always Yeah, I don't think it's as much as his talent as it's much the talent around him.
00:26:52
Speaker
Like if he went into Jaden Daniels situation, I don't think the expectation would be that he's a top 15 quarterback. I think he was expectation would be, I would say bottom third in the league, 30 to 20. I'm sorry. I mean, I know he's got high expectations overall, but you don't walk into and a situation as a rookie and expect to make a ben big impact. But you walk into the Bears because you have Keenan Allen, you have DJ Moore, both,
00:27:20
Speaker
both Pro Bowl receivers, and then you have Ro Madunze. That's why I think he has high expectations, not necessarily his talent, but the talent around him.
00:27:32
Speaker
That's a fair point, probably the best setup for a rookie quarterback to ever come into. um But yeah, ah there is very high expectations with him, especially around town. So I wanted to like level set with you guys, where you guys are. I have a couple of records that are set for the Bears. I'm going to throw it out to you, see if you guys think ah Caleb's going to break this record in this rookie year, okay?
00:27:58
Speaker
For the rookie year, the most passing yards by a Bears rookie ah quarterback is 21-93 by yours truly, Mitch Trubisky in 2017. The rookie touchdown record is 11 touchdowns by Charlie O'Rook in 1942.
00:28:15
Speaker
Easy to face. He's going to break. He does not break those records unless he's pending injury. This season is going to be a failure. Both records, both records, break them, shatter them.
00:28:29
Speaker
I wholeheartedly agree. I want Caleb to break these two records, because holy shit, these are solo. They're so pathetic. 2,100 yards. It looks like a rookie has not started a full season for the Bears. The highest I saw was like 12, 13 games. He's not playing the whole season. I mean, that's fair, too. But I think at the same time, it's the expectation of the franchise quarterback part, where this is the actual true franchise coming in from game one where in the past,
00:28:59
Speaker
It's always been a mid-season or a veteran quarterback gets injured and then you have to throw in the rookie. So I think these should get shattered for the additional game that was added. um and that too Yeah, but the additional game added and because of the amount of wide receivers we have.
00:29:17
Speaker
Yeah. No. Um, another record that the bears have all time, um, passing yards 38 38 yards by Eric Kramer and 29 touchdowns. This was in 1995. Um, do we think this is where Caleb ends up at the end of the year? Do you think he'll be close to the record, break that record?
00:29:37
Speaker
and It's going to be close. I don't know. a lot Some people are speculating he's going to go over four. I don't know. I don't think he's going to get the TDs. I don't think he's going to throw more than 29 TDs, if I'm going to be honest here. um I don't know. It'll be interesting. I think he'll end up right around that 38, 3,700 mark. OK. But maybe with the extra game, it puts him over the top if he stays healthy for all 17. And so you would consider that a success?
00:30:06
Speaker
we first see it for I would say anything over 35 with a 2 to 1 touchdown interception ratio is a success. press you're saying So this is where I said what I said about Caleb at the beginning part.
00:30:25
Speaker
From the offensive standpoint, I don't think I saw enough to say confidently that he'll get a certain amount. I think Miller and I are on the same boat of where we want Caleb to be for his rookie year. I don't think he'll get too close to that record. I do believe that a two to one for a rookie with the team that we have is the middle ground of things. I think that should be an expectation, but it should be something that I mean, two to one is good for like a big time quarterback. Like like i that's what I see. But Miller and I are kind of on the same boat where we think like that's kind of like an average number. A three to one would be great. ah Two to three to one is great. Three to one is to think most NFL quarterbacks are putting up 30 plus touchdowns. Most good NFL quarterbacks are not going over 10.
00:31:19
Speaker
so Interception to give you an example like in during the season if we see them 12 and 4 That's a great number for for a rookie 12 and 4 like 12 TDs for interceptions. I think that's a great number I haven't seen enough. I do want this question to get brought it back up again when the preseason is over Okay, fair point. But it's preseason. Why does it mean anything to you? Like I told you in the first episode, when we were talking when we were talking about the team itself, the one thing I wanted to see was how this offense operates. That's what that's what I genuinely said.
00:31:51
Speaker
I say it! You should say it! Fucking disregarded how the ah offense operated. but He put up 150 yards in a quarter. and The offense did not look like... I gotta see more. Just give me, give me the... This coming from a fucking Mitch Trubisky fan.
00:32:08
Speaker
okay okay really claiming my time okay now this is where the homers are and i hope we are below this line the most passing touchdown ever by a quarterback is 5400 yards by can we just move on yes i don't even know why this we we are but yeah hey there are fans out there 55 touchdowns we don't think he will get that high but it's so not in his rookie year and like we're talking his first year just move to the next stop hey he's not record we are not over that was an easy slam dunk to show that we're not homers and you guys just ruined it so congrats what do you mean we ruined it it was a topic i yeah i was ready to delete that you should have
00:32:58
Speaker
Okay, moving on, the people that will get them these 20 some touchdowns, 29 was it, 29 touchdowns, the wide receivers, like we went from like one of the worst, not worst, like maybe like bottom half of the league, like top four, a wide like receiving core in all of football. ah We have Keenan Allen from the Chargers.
00:33:21
Speaker
um but thirteen we have dj morph um second year here roma duonja we draft at ninth overall solisa nameds tyler scott colin johnson bena seaun miller's favorite um like i said again we are right behind the forty nine er dolphins and eagles rank fourth overall um any any points there boys that's our we receiving core pumped up there This needs to be the best performing wide receiving career the Bears have ever had as a whole.
00:33:50
Speaker
this needs to be this will be to be no this needs to be and um what is it what how do you grade that I would like to hear and say that Caleb isn't gonna meet the numbers but then say that this wide receiver score needs to be the best like I'm like this is what I'm saying I expect to not have so many drops I expect to not have so many routes being running correctly from the wide receiving aspect of things same thing with the Titans which we're gonna touch on next yeah i i What I'm saying is from all the other times that we've had wide receivers in this team and we're like, how does he not catch that? How did he not do this or how did he not do that? We should not be having these conversations with the wide receiving core that we have. That's what I'm saying.
00:34:32
Speaker
quick Quick point of order, there was a joke today posted. Keenan Allen was about 211 pounds at Chargers. He's close to 230 now. So they were making jokes about Deep Disc Pizza. How each slice adds 10 pounds to him. Basically, there was a joke. So that's the only thing I can see is like, I think DJ Morris Solid Roam might grow up, but that's probably where the deficit, if any, will come from.
00:34:57
Speaker
Now it's going to be the rookie. Come on, dude. See me and Miller on the same page again. Did you not watch Hard Knocks? I mean, Caleb is having to tell him where to go and how to maneuver a defensive back. That's how getting on the same page works. but yeah He's a rookie. Yeah. And the one thing that I did notice too, is in that last game, you can clearly see how he's being covered.
00:35:19
Speaker
And the announcer even made the call the call of like saying, like hey, everyone knows this is also a first round pick. And the angle of the footage that you get from practice of him like running into the corner or um trying to like break away.
00:35:33
Speaker
in the game, you could see there was no separation. yeah So I think we need to have him kind of just keep learning. I do expect Alan and more to kind of balance that up where he can help him. But that's always together to the three of them. they always you And that's one thing I just say like this receiving core just please not so many drops please not so many stuff that just made us as fans like wish we had what all these other teams had ah that's all I asked for yeah I think thats honestly positiveive thing i think so I think your mindset should be if there's an issue with a wide receiver DJ and Allen it's probably Caleb's fault I think that's probably
00:36:21
Speaker
That's fair. The smart mindset to have. That's fair. I think they're too much of a professional to screw up. And Caleb is still in that phase. And he's a rookie. Yep. We have to cut him a break. Whoa, Chris, talking sensible today. I love it. Like, I'm just, we'll just keep going. We're already pushing time. Just go over here. Okay.
00:36:44
Speaker
tight end Colcomat and we just signed General Everett so those are the two people again like top 20 tight ends on both ranks so that that comprises of the receiving core and like we said it's like top five in the league so Big expectations there. Running back, ah we signed Deanna Swift from the Eagles. Khalil Herbert, who we have is on his fourth year, I believe. Rosanne Johnson is going on to the third year, second year. um We did have some fun. Ian Willer was one of the guys I was doing. um He scored a couple of touchdowns. I threw his name out there. That's the core there. um Yeah, we are not getting the respect.
00:37:28
Speaker
We are the worst in NFC North and ranked about 19 in the whole league for PFF. What do you think we should get respect? I i i think it's like better than 19 in the league. i It's probably like at least top 15 if not adopt and top Top 10? Like Swift was good last year.
00:37:49
Speaker
He had the best offensive line in the league, and he did not have an efficient year. His efficiency rating was really not good. It was down. Efficiency was not great, but he he was effective, I think. He had the best offensive line in the league. Not the best. Was it the best? Multiple people. Oh, 100%. Multiple people said that the Swift signing was one of the worst signings of the offseason. I think he'll have a good year.
00:38:16
Speaker
And I, you know, you guys know, I know running back because I called David mont Montgomery last year. so I mean, from another team. Sure. So this is, this is my thing with the running backs, which I've stated again, need to see the play calling, need to see how the running backs are going to get utilized right now. I think they're still on the bottom end of the running backs. I think PFF was kind of nice with the 19.
00:38:44
Speaker
I don't think they're that bad. I mean, they were accurate. I mean, first of all, the division thing, I think that's laughable that you think that's wrong. You look at Aaron Jones, yeah better than all of them. Josh Jacobs better than all of them. by lions 100% better. Why does it matter? You're so focused on the fucking backups. What's the matter? It's a room I'm talking I'm not talking about it's swift better than it's It's the it's the horse the horse manners Josh Jacobs and then fucking the big guy up in the Packers Dylan Dylan, I mean the Lions are far and away the best like they are we're the worst and You would remember the injury prone. He's always been talked about as being explosive. He hasn't shown it yet. Yes. He's a name. Yes. He can do something, but to say that we're top 10, I think so. i think
00:39:39
Speaker
See, the thing is, is that we we've always been when when we have a quote unquote quarterback or a running back that can lead the charge. It was Montgomery. We didn't use them all that great. I think we everyone agrees in that aspect. We did can't be we can't say we're top 10 because we officially became ah running back by committee.
00:39:59
Speaker
Like that, that, that to me is where it's like the trend in NFL. Now they don't know it's not lead backs. It is trend, but you have star power. That's still have star power. You still have star power. You have the name associated. You have the top guy and then you have the three branches below him. but The bears are three branches at the top. That's the issue. Okay. I mean, Herbert has never proven himself to be a number one. He was decent last year.
00:40:27
Speaker
Decent. See, that's the thing. You can't say decent and then be a number one at the same time. First of all, who was better, Deontay Forman or Herbert? Because I would argue Forman was probably better.
00:40:39
Speaker
but not by a lot. He's not on a team anymore. So so that does not prove my point. But that's what I'm saying. Like we're talking like not by a lot and that person's not here. So it's like, that's what I mean by running back by committee. It's just, it wasn't me. Swift is the number one. I will agree with that, but I don't think it's and have true. Number one that we've seen in the past. I don't think exactly.
00:40:59
Speaker
Okay, let's talk about the part of the team that's probably ranked the lowest and probably has the most complaints in the offseason. In all of the offense, the O-line. um We are ranked top 11 per PFF, so it's not as bad as the fans see, but I don't think many people believe that.
00:41:20
Speaker
The tackles are Braxton Jones on the left side and Darnell Wright on the right side. Probably the best duo, the best part of the offensive line is is the tackles there. The guards are Tevin Jenkins, Nate Davis. um Jenkins is solid on the left side. Nate Davis you know has issues, has some personal issues last year, basically has not been someone we can rely on.
00:41:47
Speaker
um and the center um you know we have Coleman Shelton that we picked up in the offseason he's been taking center snap so overall as a unit there are some big some names there but it seems like the weakest point our offense according to a lot of people out there Yeah, the biggest thing is one that they stay healthy and two to figure out the right guard spot. It'll probably be between Nate Davis and Ryan Bates. That's everything that I've been hearing there. Yeah, just because Davis has been hurt, his injury, his lack of practice, the whole fucking package has been a disaster since he was signed with three or $30 million dollars contract.
00:42:26
Speaker
just fairly disappointing considering poll this is Paul's specialty. So we'll see what happens with Nate Davis. um We'll see if he does take steps. he was He was a good guard with Tennessee. It just hasn't translated. It's just been inconsistent play since he's gotten to the Bears. So hopefully maybe we'll see some steps here now that we're getting into the games and more important period of preseason.
00:42:52
Speaker
Maybe he'll show something that he hasn't, um but we'll see. Yeah. I did see the Canadian Eagle in the depth chart too. So Chris, you and I got something to root for. true yeah He hasn't been cut yet. and don He may be caught, but hard knocks always feature some of those guys that all will get caught and it's like emotional at the end of the year.
00:43:14
Speaker
But that was our offensive preview. It was not a lot, but we just wanted to highlight some of the key um winners. I think key players that we think would be, would you know, would be crucial for us in this important year and where we think the um issues lie in our offense. We'll do defense next week. Similarly, we'll talk about the three units there and see where we think our strengths and weaknesses lie.
00:43:39
Speaker
With that being said, Miller, I'm going to pass the mic over to you because bring us home with fantasy preview for top quarterbacks and running backs. Do I get an intro music? You want one? I do. I want intro. All right. Here we go. That guitar one is pretty good. well Ladies and gentlemen, and we're now going to be going over the top 10 fantasy presented by Michael Miller.
00:44:06
Speaker
um Oh, wait, that's my bad. That's the wrong one. like my bed I, I pressed it. What a dick. Two time champion over here. So not to toot my own horn, but yeah, only time this episode. Yeah. Okay. go So if anybody's going to be talking about fantasies it should be coming from me, right? So let's dive right into the quarterbacks. I'm going to list them off.
00:44:29
Speaker
talk about each and every one a little bit. We'll talk about some where we're thinking and then booping can chime in here with his thoughts that we're not going to pay attention to, obviously. Starting off with quarterbacks, number one overall consensus is going to be Josh Allen. He brings the offensive firepower with his arms as well as his legs. He is a very established runner and inside the five he often gets in the end zone. Two quarterbacks that I kind of have question marks around will fill out the top three with Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson. Yes, they do have mobility. Yes, they are in good offenses.
00:45:11
Speaker
But both of these quarterbacks have never had a true dominant running back behind them, and they are both getting introduced to that this year. Jalen Hurts will have Saquon Barkley, and Lamar Jackson is going to have Derek Henry. So it'll be interesting to see at the end of the year if these guys really live up to their ADP, which is in the back half of the third, early fourth round. um but There's some good talent in that spot.
00:45:38
Speaker
Yeah. Um, all line concerns are both of them too. Jalen hurts, uh, you know, um, center retired. Um, the rest of the line is okay, but, um, okay. Again, but offensive line of football, top off five, but the center spot is crucial.
00:45:56
Speaker
but all the tush I don't know how many of the it'll be interesting to see if they keep the tush push going and as I think the center is really crucial with that I'm sure they're gonna try it I just I'm interested to know how successful they will be Yeah, and Baltimore got, their O-line got dismantled. They're usually pretty good about um making sure these people, you know, there's a fourth round pick here, fifth round pick here, and they've built the holes, but their O-line also got decimated. But the question for you is, Josh Allen lost his number one target, or so-called number one target, Stefan Diggs, and Gabe Davis is also no longer there. Are you concerned that that will have an impact in what he can do for us, as he was?
00:46:38
Speaker
No, I'm honestly not. I think he gets so many touchdown runs that it adds to the the point total. I think he's going to get his. Good quarterbacks always get their passing yards. um the the The better question will be how it's going to translate. How is it Stefan Diggs targets going to translate? I mean, Josh Allen still put up good numbers at the end of last year, even with Stefan Diggs not putting up good numbers. So we didn't have a true one wide receiver last year.
00:47:08
Speaker
They did draft the guy, um, a wide receiver. They still have, they've yet to really use their tight end that they use their first round pick on yet last year. So I think he'll still, he'll still eat as far as yardage is concerned and that running mobility that he has and really the, uh, the lack of injury with him is, is a key factor as well.
00:47:31
Speaker
fair point I'm moving on to the reigning Super Bowl champ Pat Mahomes, rounding out number four. um Joe Burrow is a name that I think is being devalued in drafts. He's going in the sixth round. Keep in mind two years ago, Joe Burrow was a top five, top four pick for QBs.
00:47:54
Speaker
He brings little bit of legs with a lot of bit of arm and a lot of bit of talent around him with chasing Higgins. and so i eminem with the hairstyle. Okay. Sure. Okay. That's where you're going. So I think he is being really devalued. I think having him as the fifth best quarterback, that's where I kind of put him. Um, a lot of people, it's a recency bias, right? He was heard it is a hundred percent, a hundred percent. A lot of people are putting CJ Stroud as the fifth, fifth best quarterback. And you know what? I just don't see it. I know
00:48:33
Speaker
that he can do it based on his is his numbers last year but realistically he's not much of a runner so he needs to do everything through the air and i just don't see him taking another step and typically quarterbacks do they They do not have that second year boost like wide receivers. Typically quarterbacks do come back to earth a little bit in their second year once defenses try to figure them out. So I do think CJ Stroud does take a step back and his ADP right now is in the fourth round. I think that's too high. So I definitely will be staying away from him. The three guys that I am kind of targeting a little bit.
00:49:14
Speaker
Um, our Anthony, Anthony Richardson, Kyler Murray and Dak Prescott kind of in that middle tier six, seven and eight area for, for my rankings. I think that they are offer a good value and they're in pretty good offenses. I mean, Richardson's going to give you the rushing attack and Kyler and Dak are both going to be in heavy throw offenses with pretty shitty defenses.
00:49:37
Speaker
The Dallas may have a decent defense, but you know, Dak Prescott with CD lamb, both playing for contracts, possibly they're going to fucking light it up. I, I, great point between Anthony and Kyler. I feel like they will do that little jail and hurt sleep that they did a couple of years ago, you know, really good offenses. Like they're fully healthy. Hopefully, uh, you know, that, that, that running capability, they have the escape capability, really looking forward to them. Not so much that, but the top two, definitely my targets in the fantasy drafts too. And rounding out the job 10.
00:50:15
Speaker
Hopefully I don't draft here any of the buddy after this, but maybe Jordan Love, possibly Jayden Daniels, and maybe Justin Herbert. Obviously Justin Herbert has it's questionable with the injuries and his lack of targets, but like I, the same point I made with um with Josh Allen maybe could be said with Justin Herbert, but too many question marks, kind of want to stay away from them um overall. So that's kind of my top 10 quarterbacks. Any Kwan, qualms with that booping.
00:50:44
Speaker
No, I think that's a solid list. um Herbert should be interesting. They might be a run first defense, especially with my looking at the offensive staff there, too. um That might be interesting. So 12 might be tad high for him. But, um you know, it's like, like Brock might go in there to ah maybe.
00:51:03
Speaker
um Pretty high on Jared Goff too. I know he's a pass. He doesn't do much running wise But I think some of the names to like throw out there that may make the entry into the top 10 top 12 there it's It's really interesting like Fantasy quarterbacks are no longer about skill. They're really about rushing ability because pretty much every person in the top 10 that I just listed will get you rushing yards. And you have people like Brock Purdy that put up great numbers last year and Tua that put up great numbers last year and Justin Herbert, great numbers, but you know what?
00:51:41
Speaker
They're not going to get you that rushing. They may get a lucky rushing touchdown every once in a while, but realistically, you're not going to have that safe floor with them. So if they do have a bad passing game, if one of their wide receivers do get hurt, you're going to feel it.
00:51:55
Speaker
so I have a question and then we can go into the next group which is the running backs but I wanted to ask um the trend that I've noticed over the past two seasons is that quarterbacks are being drafted a lot higher than what was previous the norm um are we now saying that round two even round three is an acceptable round to draft your first quarterback I think it depends one on the league um For me, I am in pretty much standard leagues. I do not have a dual quarterback league. um I don't think it's acceptable to draft a quarterback in the second round. And I really don't think I would in the third round either, unless we're talking about maybe attending league. I typically stay away from quarterbacks that high. I just, I don't think
00:52:46
Speaker
the difference between the first overall quarterback and the seventh or eighth overall quarterback is that drastic. And I think you can usually find a diamond in the rough. Um, someone that's like open mentioned, like a Jared golf, it's going to give you that safe floor because he isn't a good offense. Whereas I mean, somebody maybe at the top, like a Pat Mahomes, you don't know if his, if that offense is going to continue to click.
00:53:15
Speaker
Yeah, i've I've noticed that even people have Dak Prescott as a good safety quarterback, which I find kind of funny because in non fantasy talk, they really talk about him not being the guy. But on fantasy, he always seems to get the right amount of numbers that actually because interceptions don't matter that much. Well, they matter in some leagues, I'll tell you that. Also, like he had a killer last year, like He's always been like solid, like top operational on quarterbacks, but I think CD and him were just on a different page last year. Yeah, the end of last year, he won a lot of people championships, including this guy. A lot of people that probably didn't deserve it. Go ahead.
00:53:56
Speaker
I wasn't one of them. All right. Moving on to the running backs. Let's talk a little running back situation here. Run through the top 10, maybe sprinkle in one or two more. Um, obviously we're starting with the cream of the crop. In my opinion, the number one overall pick that you should be drafting. And that is Christian McCafferty.
00:54:16
Speaker
Chris McCaffrey, CMC, San Francisco. He's got a calf injury. Who cares? If he is even remotely healthy, even if he's out the first two years, this guy puts up 20 points a game. What was his record setting? Would did he get touchdowns in 21 consecutive games last year or something like that? Just ridiculous.
00:54:38
Speaker
No one competes with him. If he's healthy, he's going to read the league in fantasy points, bottom line, outside of quarterbacks. Obviously that's a different realm, but, uh, position players flex. CMC is the the guy. He's the number one pick take him. So many people didn't take him last year, whether they thought it was Justin Jefferson should go. Number one, whether they thought it was Auckland, Eckler should go. Number one. And they all failed take CMC. He's safe.
00:55:07
Speaker
as And he if he stays healthy he will live up to every bit of that number one pic soft tissue injuries on running backs really scare me like Like it's a good well-run organization. So I know they're gonna do right by him, but it's like so tricky um Historically caps haven't been as bad as like hammies So as long as they let the calf heal he should be good Yeah, maybe draft a handcuff is all I would say if you have CMC. Or just draft the handcuff anyway.
00:55:42
Speaker
Moving on, probably the next two, um we'll just run through them here. To round out the top five, Bijon Robinson, Breece Hall, they're pretty much in the same category, both of them in intriguing offenses. After that, um you have Jonathan Taylor and Kyron Williams. I have my concerns about Kyron Williams. One, he has a bit of an injury history. Two, you just look at last year,
00:56:08
Speaker
They basically were starting with Cam Acres and he hit the bench for Kyron. So could it happen this year? I doubt it. I mean, Kyron was off the charts last year.
00:56:19
Speaker
but they did draft a running back ah in the second round or third round, one of those two. So could it happen? Maybe. I just, I think I would rather take JT over him. ah The next guy on my list, I have Jamar Gibbs. We did get a bit of good news today that he's expected to start. But speaking of um soft tissue injuries. He does have a hammy. So there is a little bit to concern there after Montgomery again, please thank you. Derek Henry and Saquon Barkley are my seven and nine with Travis Etienne in between
00:57:00
Speaker
Going back to my concerns with ah Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson, I have the same type of deal with Derek Henry and Saquon Barkley. How many touchdowns are going to be stolen by their quarterbacks? So it's an interesting dynamic there in Baltimore and Philly to keep in mind.
00:57:19
Speaker
because they may eat at each other's stats, where in the past, they've kind of been the lone horses. The only two benefits that they have is they are going to be a part of good offenses, where in the past, obviously, Henry was in Tennessee and Saquon was in New York. So yeah um they're going to be coming into solid ah offenses, so their stats will hopefully improve there.
00:57:42
Speaker
That was literally my point. I was going to say they were the offense, wherever they were. Now they'll be part of a team that will actually give them a shot at scoring. So I feel like it's a net plus, if anything. I don't see it as a net negative. It's fair.
00:57:58
Speaker
the the The big guy that I don't know if I'm going to get a part of him, but I'm very looking forward to at least watching him is Isaiah Pacheco from Kansas City. Obviously, we know what their offense can do. Pacheco runs like a fucking madman. He is he is fun to watch.
00:58:15
Speaker
he probably he is I guess we did have, what's what's his name a few years ago? C E H, but this is one of the first times in this offense that we can, that we're walking into a season with a true number one running back. So hopefully he puts up some numbers. I'm expecting him to Devon, a Chan and was he most dirt, they're ranked fairly high for being on the same team. In my opinion, I know a Chan.
00:58:43
Speaker
had a great year last year as he was very efficient in this Miami offense, but most are got all the touchdowns he had. 21 touchdowns last year. So to sit here and say, Hey, Chan is going to be a top 12 guy. It's concerning. He can do it. The offense is capable of doing it. It's capable of having two top 20 guys. I'm just concerned about the touchdowns and whether he can be that much better than most dirt. Um, cause he has being picked in that top 12. What are your thoughts on that situation? buin
00:59:19
Speaker
Yeah, that's like he's got so much upside. There's definitely an injury risk, and especially looking at how last year went. If Devon HN didn't run into the end zone, which a lot of times he did, he would not get that. He would be vulture rather touchdown.
00:59:35
Speaker
But again, such an efficient offense, right? They both ate, they both were really good fantasy value. ah Most are slightly more safe, I would say, but the upside is with A-chan, if he hits and if he stays healthy, I think he's a league winner. He could be number one running back right here.
00:59:54
Speaker
The last thing I'll mention before I turn it over to finish today off is James Cook. We mentioned it earlier. Josh Allen's going to eat. He's going to get his points. Who's he going to throw to? James Cook was it one of those guys that really benefited at the end of last year. He was a focal point on that offense. So expect him to get more involved in the passing game, which could lead to more of an impact for fantasy. And then also,
01:00:22
Speaker
David Montgomery that Boopin mentioned and Josh Jacobs is a name. I don't know how I feel about him. I think he's going pretty high. Um, I just don't know that green Bay situation. I just don't know that offense. Don't know how much they're going to do like they have in the past where it's kind of been a split backfield with AJ Dillon and Aaron Jones. They do the same thing.
01:00:46
Speaker
You just don't know if, if Josh Jacobs is going to get those touchdown opportunities and and realistically, he performed like shit last year for Oakland. So who's to say that he's going to return to his, um, his number one status that he had the year before. You just don't know what you're going to get out of him. Yeah, no, great point. Um, James cook. Another good thing is his production got better after they changed the offensive coordinator. So that this new offensive coordinator has already has a.
01:01:15
Speaker
good working relationship with him, so I think stocks on the way up. um Josh Jacobs, I feel like Green Bay, they always pull some crap and have a decent O-line anyway. you know But um like I think that's the something to look forward to. um But other than that, you're absolutely right. I think AJ Dillon was cut at some point, and they brought him back again. So that's interesting. But I'll end it here. So in the hard knocks with the Giants,
01:01:46
Speaker
They were thinking of bringing people and they had brought up Josh Jacobs and the Andrea Swift um because you talked about inefficient runners in in both of them were very inefficient, but Both teams are looking at both quarterbacks. So funny running backs so that tells me that like, there's something there that's worth exploring for teams. So like, I think they bunch them together. So it's interesting that um he's ranked this much higher, but I think that O-line will come together. I think you if he's who he is, because again, the joke last year was that he's gotten bigger, Josh Jacobs had. So like, if he's back to, you know, himself the year prior, the the most successful running back the year prior, he'll have a good year in Green Bay again.
01:02:32
Speaker
So after hearing both of you guys, the the one thing that i always comes up during the ah ah draft and and and stuff like that, what is your ideal draft position in a scenario like this?
01:02:48
Speaker
Not number one. Yeah. Okay. That's exactly what I was thinking. But like CMC. No, no, I think a lot of people want the first draft because CMC is that strong, but I think with your the rankings that you guys are showing, because, uh, at least in the agenda that we have here, I think the running backs is the make or break position, but I also think that some of the draft positions are a bit exaggerated.
01:03:14
Speaker
Um, where people seem to want to stretch more than they should. And I always feel like they do that more with running backs than with quarterbacks. I would say, to answer your question, I would say top five. I think I would be happy with CMC, Tyree kill, CD lamb, Breeze Hall, or Bijon Robinson as my number one pick. I would be happy with any of those after that. Yeah.
01:03:38
Speaker
Talk about trends though. You should see where wide receivers are going, Chris. There's probably like six or seven wide receivers. No, I've seen. I've seen a couple. That's why I'm excited to hear. yeah As you guys know, I'm not a fantasy expert or anything like that. I just play for the fun of it. But hearing your guys' this thought process on this, is it makes me question like what the best move would be. But I think we can get more into that when we actually have our fantasy draft, which is going to happen in a couple of episodes. No, I liked your question earlier, too. um The quarterbacks going higher, like, I think two years ago, the top tier quarterback, if you had them, you finished on top of your league, like they carried your team. So that trend has kind of vanished now. You can still get value, like we talked about, like,
01:04:20
Speaker
golf and probably two on stuff like that, the 12th, 14th round, you can still get some value there. But there's definitely difference makers up there. Like Mila was saying, same thing up there. It's a really top loaded talent, like be it Christian McCaffrey, Brijan Brice,
01:04:36
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If you have one of these people they hit like I think you're gonna have a really solid team and and that's for wide receiver too. The top end is very heavy and if they do what you expect them to do, I think you will not look back this year. So there's a really good talent up top. So anywhere from like top like three to five, three to six is probably the ideal place to draft. Three to seven maybe even.
01:04:59
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So next episode, we're going to be reviewing the top 10 wide receivers and tight end. Um, before we switch that I do have a point of order that I wanted to ask because ah you guys again are the fantasy experts. Um, Catching running backs or ah running backs that mostly specialized where you knew they were going to get dump offs. You knew that there were going to be screens. Why isn't Saquon and Derek Henry ranked higher than they should be since they were known to be more of a catching back than.
01:05:28
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Is it because of the offense that they were in or is it because they're just in brand new offenses? I think Derek Henry also caught passes. That was, I don't think he was good at it. He was, that's not what he did primarily. What he did well was just running and trucking people over. Take one, I think definitely has some catching perks, but if you do PPR, Derek Henry drops out of the top 10, in my opinion, Miller.
01:05:52
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Yeah, I think Derek Henry stems a lot from age and usage. um It's talked about every year and every year people have to eat their words because he ah keeps producing, but he is getting older. He's 29 plus and he has a lot of miles on those legs. Saquon, I think it's just the offense. I mean, I think when you look at the top five guys,
01:06:14
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of um CMC, Bijon, Breese, JT, and Kyron and really Gibbs, maybe not as much Gibbs, but you know those top five guys are going to be the number one back for their team. Saquon, yeah, he's going to be there. He's going to be the number one back, but you also have Jalen Hurts.
01:06:34
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eating touchdowns, eating rushes and stuff like that. So I think they're in the appropriate range um given those two pieces of information.
01:06:47
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And again, if you guys want to get more fantasy, ah Miller and Boopin are your guys. We're going to be reviewing ah wide receivers and tight ends next week. And then the following episode, we are actually going to be doing a fantasy draft, which I don't know how the hell we're going to do it, but we're going to figure it out. ah Let's go ahead and ah close this episode. And as ah Boopin has done before, we always ask the question, what are we excited for this week? So I'm going to throw it to Miller. What are you excited for?
01:07:14
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ah Just another Bears preseason game and another episode of hard knocks. Let's roll baby. It's it's football season Getting close getting boom what about you? Um Let's see um I know you got school starting up. I don't know if you're looking forward to that but and I'm not but yeah, I What am I looking for? The same thing bears this. ah I have, honestly, believe it or not, have not done a single mock this year. um Miller actually like is helping me through fantasy right now to like get me set up and stuff like that. So I need to like spend more time there. But I think this is the time of the year when the drafts start happening and stuff like that. There is a tentative draft I could do Sunday if I wanted to. So maybe that. But nothing crazy, kind of laying low. You tell me, what are you looking forward to next week?
01:08:06
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ah I'm intrigued to see what a couple of these other teams are going to be doing with their quarterbacks. ah The Vikings have an interesting position with ah JJ McCarthy being out for the season now. um Looking to see what the Falcons are are looking to do as well. I'm more intrigued to see what these other guys in our division are looking to have done as well. so Like Miller said, I'm very happy with the fantasy aspect coming in and that we're actually in full swing of football. And Hard Knocks, I really hope I get to see more inside team meeting stuff. I hope they tickle my fancy with that. Chris, I know next week there will be no Mitch Trubisky on Hard Knocks. There will be no Mitch Trubisky. Are you okay with that? I don't know how I'll cope with it, but I'll continue to live. Like we always do.
01:08:57
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You know? Alright, on that positive, positive note, people, this is Boopin signing off for Miller & Chris. Thank you for listening. We hope that you had a great time. Do lots of positivity. If you liked what you did, give us a like. Subscribe to the channel. Interact with us. We had a young podcast. Let us know how we're doing. Maybe someday in the near future.
01:09:24
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We'll suffer in our misery together. Goodnight, boys. Bye! Bye!