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Season 3 Episode 9 - Rollercoaster....Holy Roller
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The boys talk a bears win!!
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Transcript
Introduction and Humor with Guest Ben
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Trio of Positivity
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to the Trio of Positivity podcast. Thank you guys so much for joining us. I am here with my fellow Trio of Positivity member, Miller.
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Trio of Positivity
And our guest positivity member, I guess, well, I guess a third and a half. No, I guess half. We'll call you half positivity member, ah Ben.
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Ben
I'll take it.
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Trio of Positivity
Boys, happy Monday. Hope you guys had a fantastic weekend. I love seeing you guys. um How are you guys doing today?
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Mike
I'm doing fantastic. Happy to be here. It's a fucking beautiful day.
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Trio of Positivity
Victory, second victory Monday of the year.
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Mike
Victory Monday.
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Trio of Positivity
We enjoy these.
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Mike
Second victory Monday in a row. When was last time we won two games in a row?
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Ben
You guys just have to keep bringing me back because I keep bringing the winds.
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Mike
That's fair. That's fair.
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Trio of Positivity
That's he is to know.
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Mike
This year.
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Trio of Positivity
Or is it because Boopin is on vacation? He's getting us to win. So Boopin should not come back.
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Mike
Ooh.
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Ben
Oh, i I disagree.
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Mike
Ooh.
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Ben
I want boops back.
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Trio of Positivity
All right, let's get some of the ah nonsense out of
Social Media and Financial Woes
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Trio of Positivity
the way. You can find us on Facebook. Trio positivity. We are on Twitter at Trio positivity. We have a YouTube channel, Trio positivity podcast, and we have a tick tock question mark.
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Trio of Positivity
ah We own the website name, but we have nothing on there because we're broke.
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Mike
Thank you.
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Trio of Positivity
We'll eventually do
NFL Week 4 Discussion with Sick Guest Ben
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Trio of Positivity
something with it. But now that we got that out of the way, let's talk about week four in the NFL. We're going to start with our guest, Ben. Ben, what are your overall thoughts on week four?
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Trio of Positivity
Not the Bears, just week four as a whole.
Super Bowl Halftime Show Debate: Taylor Swift vs. Bad Bunny
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Ben
I didn't watch a whole lot outside the Bears because i was sick all weekend, but I think there was plenty of offense to go around, lot of high-scoring games. So remember to take your overs, boys and girls.
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Trio of Positivity
Miller, what about you? What are your thoughts on in the NFL of week four?
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Mike
And don't bet on the Chargers.
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Ben
Well, just text Miller and see what he's betting on and bet the opposite.
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Mike
That's a good one, too.
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Trio of Positivity
i think we've done that before.
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Mike
no
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Trio of Positivity
There was a time where we used to do that on a separate bet, but that's here and rather.
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Mike
So I do not have a reaction about week four, just more of a general question about an announcement that was recently made.
Giants' New Quarterback and NFL Injuries
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Mike
Who would lose more viewers during the Super Bowl? Taylor Swift or Bad Bunny?
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Ben
I don't care because I'm not watching it either way.
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Trio of Positivity
Here's the thing. Okay. I'm glad you brought this up because this was going to be my thing to bring up as well. um I think week four. um Oh, his name escapes me.
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Trio of Positivity
a Giants new quarterback looked pretty good.
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Mike
art jackson dart
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Ben
Dart.
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Mike
He threw for 111 yards, but yeah, sure, we can go.
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Trio of Positivity
Dart looked. He looked pretty good for his start.
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Mike
You look pretty good.
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Trio of Positivity
Looked pretty good. That's all I want to say. Looked pretty good.
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Ben
I guess i'll I'll say injuries because there was
Playful Banter on Game Endings and Fictional MGM Segment
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Ben
loads of injuries.
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Trio of Positivity
That's. And they keep piling up. They seem to like every game now, if it's Thursday, Sunday.
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Mike
We can't go. Get back to my fucking question, you jackasses.
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Trio of Positivity
Well, this was more.
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Ben
i and i answered it
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Trio of Positivity
This is more interesting. OK, so here's the thing. In in I got to send a couple memes, which I think are hilarious. Miller, you are absolutely correct.
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Mike
I know. It's already pretty hot.
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Trio of Positivity
Social media has been ah fantastic with some of these.
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Mike
It's already hot.
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Trio of Positivity
Here's the thing. I think they both equally would have lost viewers. One, because it's Taylor Swift, so it's already polarizing as it is.
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Mike
Mm-hmm.
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Trio of Positivity
And the other, no one here really speaks Spanish. So there's not really much either. yeah i would say we're in the same boat. However, there was one meme that saved it for me. It was Jay-Z just bopping his head, having no idea what song was coming. That's the same thing that happened with J-Lo and Shakira when he was also at the Super Bowl, which people seem to forget. But this will be the second time he's headlining the Super Bowl, but this will be the second time He's performing it.
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Trio of Positivity
It's going to be great. There's going to be tits and asses everywhere. ah It is going to be fantastic. If you haven't seen the Bad Bunny video music video, I have plenty of recommendations.
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Trio of Positivity
I was very happy with this announcement. i There's just something about his performances that I love. i i I think it might be one of the, and I think it's in California too, right?
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Trio of Positivity
It's a Super Bowl in, it's in San Francisco.
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Mike
Yeah, it's in San Francisco.
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Trio of Positivity
Plenty of Hispanics and ICE over there, too. We're going to be clashing all night long.
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Mike
No, there's no ice in San Francisco.
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Trio of Positivity
It's going to be fantastic.
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Mike
There's no ice in San Francisco.
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Trio of Positivity
Oh, well, yet.
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Ben
Yet. I bet you there will be.
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Mike
Yet.
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Trio of Positivity
We are not a political show.
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Mike
There will be. They're
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Trio of Positivity
We are not a political show. If anyone wants to cancel us, listen.
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Mike
going to send him.
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Mike
He's going to send him on January 31st.
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Trio of Positivity
I'll say.
Bears vs. Raiders Game Recap
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Ben
You know it.
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Trio of Positivity
Listen, listen, listen, listen.
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Ben
You know it. You know it.
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Trio of Positivity
I don't listen. I don't want to cause trouble here. I'll just say this. Whatever the president wants to do.
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Ben
Nah, fuck that.
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Trio of Positivity
He's doing fine.
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Ben
Fuck him.
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Trio of Positivity
He's doing fine. Anyways. um But yeah, one thing I did want to bring up as far as like the NFL is concerned.
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Ben
in
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Trio of Positivity
Fucking three and a half hours and we still got a tie.
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Mike
Oh, God.
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Mike
That was brutal.
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Trio of Positivity
That was... The most anticlimactic finish I think I've ever seen. It was like you sell up you you hit the good you hit the field goal and you're like, fuck. That's what I said as soon as that field goal went. It's like, well, fuck.
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Trio of Positivity
um
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Mike
Yeah, because it goes from being one of those all-time great games to a game that becomes irrelevant.
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Trio of Positivity
And boys, boys.
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Mike
Because it's a tie.
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Ben
although Although it could impact playoffs in the in the later end of the year if Green Bay keeps winning, but they're not looking they're not looking hot.
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Mike
But it's not but like memorable overall. like Yeah, it could impact things, but it's not like...
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Ben
No, no, now the game is...
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Mike
It's just like, well, this was a waste of time.
Caleb's Performance and Game-Winning Drive
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Ben
You're right. The game itself won't be memorable other than the effect it has on the record. That's it
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Mike
Yeah.
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Trio of Positivity
Boys, I hate to say this. Jordan Love looks. Dangerous. I hate saying that. ah He played really well and.
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Mike
didn't put it He didn't play as well as caleb
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Ben
And it was against the terrible Cowboys defense. And they didn't have CeeDee Lamb again.
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Trio of Positivity
Again, i
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Ben
And they still put up 40. Against the vaunted Packers defense.
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Trio of Positivity
That's.
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Ben
against the vaunted packers' defense
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Trio of Positivity
Here's the thing, though.
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Trio of Positivity
Maybe the owner in Dallas knew something because, holy shit, 40 points. Jordan Love threw how much?
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Mike
I don't know. I think it's an emotional game.
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Trio of Positivity
Over 300.
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Mike
I thought that i thought and thought that was an emotional game between the Packers and the Cowboys.
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Trio of Positivity
Over 300, 3-0 on the touchdown side. Yeah, I mean, is what it is.
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Mike
i don't I don't see that continuing for the Cowboys. I'm sorry. I think Dak might be able to do it, but...
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Trio of Positivity
No, that was those were Jordan's numbers.
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Mike
and that I know. I know.
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Trio of Positivity
Okay.
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Mike
I moved on.
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Trio of Positivity
Oh, you're just saying in general. Oh, my bad. My bad, my bad.
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Mike
and moved on.
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Trio of Positivity
Okay.
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Mike
Yeah, I think Dak might be able to put up some offensive numbers, but I just don't see them keeping up with these teams like they did this game.
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Trio of Positivity
I feel like Dak has had... I feel like Dak has had... Like, he's doing fine. i don't think that he's doing bad.
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Mike
Dak is doing what I was expecting him to do this year.
Miller's Glazing Minute on Caleb Williams
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Trio of Positivity
Which is?
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Mike
Just ball out. He's played really well. It's just the defense can't stop anybody.
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Ben
Except against the Bears.
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Mike
I mean, he didn't.
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Ben
What'd he throw, three picks? Come on, bro.
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Mike
He lost CD every other game. He's played really solid.
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Ben
He didn't have CD this game didn't throw three picks.
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Mike
Game planning, dude.
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Trio of Positivity
Well, he threw two. He threw two picks. Two picks. Let's...
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Ben
Hey, it wasn't three.
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Trio of Positivity
that's All right, let's go ahead and move on because I know where this episode's going. Also, fair to full disclosure, I tried using an AI service to create a jingle.
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Trio of Positivity
ah The jingle was going to be ah Miller's Glazing Minute, it also known as MGM. Couldn't find the right jingle, but I just want you to know, Miller, I've created a segment for you.
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Trio of Positivity
Welcome to MGM, Miller's Glazing Minute. You get one minute to glaze as much as you want,
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Ben
I feel like we're going to get sued over that.
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Trio of Positivity
but
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Ben
there's a There's a small studio that makes films that might have an issue with us calling it the MGM segment.
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Trio of Positivity
ah Listen, if someone from and listen listen
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Mike
It's just a small small studio.
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Ben
Small studio. Yeah.
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Trio of Positivity
listen if someone from MGM is actually listening to this podcast, I i understand we'll take the lawsuit and we'll lose. okay I'll put that out there. like I get it.
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Trio of Positivity
Just to recap, I'm going to do the little recap that was written for me.
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Mike
Yeah, I was going to do something fun.
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Trio of Positivity
again Yeah, well... I don't care. I'm just going to read what it says. Again, i don't go over anything that's on here because I go straight off the dome and I'm always right. So this is what was written for me.
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Mike
I don't write...
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Trio of Positivity
38 seconds left. Dan Carlson sets up a game winning 52 year field goal with the Raiders down 2425 snap kick and it's blocked by Josh Blackwell. That's how it ended. So how did it go? So Miller, take it away.
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Trio of Positivity
That was awful.
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Mike
I would have said that with so much more emotion.
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Ben
Yeah, i was going to say.
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Mike
You do realize when I write notes, I don't write it verbatim. Mr. I go off the dome. you know You're not supposed to read it exactly how it's written.
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Trio of Positivity
but But that's not what I wrote, though. that's what i'm I'm reading something I didn't write because if I didn't read it right, you're going to yell at me.
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Ben
Fair.
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Mike
Yeah, that's why I was going to write it read it.
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Trio of Positivity
Oh, you didn't say.
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Mike
um
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Trio of Positivity
But go ahead, Miller. If you want to give it your shot, go for it.
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Mike
No, we're done.
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Trio of Positivity
Show us how it's done.
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Ben
Just keep going.
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Mike
We're done.
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Trio of Positivity
No, show us how it's done.
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Ben
Just keep going.
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Mike
We're done.
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Trio of Positivity
Show us.
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Ben
Just keep going. Just keep going.
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Mike
So the game obviously ended in a block field goal. The Bears got the win. um Where do you want me to start? Do you want me to start with the MGM?
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Mike
Do you want me to go ah someplace else?
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Trio of Positivity
Listen, i my goal is to give you the MGM.
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Mike
go over go over the agenda where I was going on the agenda?
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Trio of Positivity
My goal was...
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Ben
Just do the agenda and then glaze after.
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Mike
Like...
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Ben
We all know you're going to do it.
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Trio of Positivity
Okay, we'll do the MGM afterwards.
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Mike
Got it. Got it. I like that. I like that.
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Trio of Positivity
Okay.
Critique of Bears' Offense and Player Performances
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Mike
Okay, so first we're going to start off with some key plays. At the start of the game, the defense showed out. We had two defensive turnovers in basically the first quarter.
00:10:23
Mike
Great. Unfortunately for the offensive side of the ball, we had 10 yards of offense from those two turnovers. And after almost two quarters of play, I think we had three turnovers and six points.
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Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
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Mike
It was pretty embarrassing overall considering the amount of turnovers. Max Crosby was a game wrecker when it came to the Bears. Three batted passes, an interception, a forced fumble in the first half alone.
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Mike
We'll get to the offensive line later. Ashton Gentry finally had a good game of offense. He busted a 64-yard touchdown run, which puts pushed the Raiders' lead to but...
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Mike
but The Bears weren't asleep at the wheel, you know? Caleb woke up. Woke up, baby. Nails a 27-yard touchdown pass to Rome.
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Mike
The only player in the NFL to score in every game so far.
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Trio of Positivity
It's not the glazing moment yet. Calm down.
00:11:18
Mike
Whoop, whoop. But we didn't stop there. We were still down. Going into the final five minutes of the game, I believe I'm trying to do quick math here.
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Mike
believe it was 19 to 24. Caleb's got the rock. He leads us on a five-minute touchdown drive to put us up one with about two minutes remaining.
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Mike
And the rest was talked about horribly at the beginning of this segment. But Josh Blackwell walks away the hero on special teams, blocking a field goal to win the game for the Bears.
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Mike
Fuck yes. If I have anything to take away from this game, I think resiliency is one of the words because this team didn't break. And the fact that this isn't but our normal Bears team that we're used to seeing.
00:12:10
Mike
We played in a shit ton of games like this last year, and we lost them all. And this year, it was a fucking shit show from the start, pretty much. But they pulled out the W at the end of the day.
00:12:23
Ben
I got two things to say on that. That Ashton Gentry touchdown run, I watched the replay again, It's like this millisecond he crossed the goal line. He dropped the ball.
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Ben
i I was like, oh my God, it he did it too.
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Mike
Oh, yeah, yeah, i did see that.
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Ben
I thought he just, what's his name? JT'd it. But unfortunately he did not. And then we aren't going to talk about that two point conversion at the end of the game.
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Ben
Just going to skip, skip past that pathetic play.
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Mike
It was irrelevant.
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Ben
Oh, irrelevant. If they would have got it and the Raiders hit the field goal, then we are the overtime game. So it wasn't irrelevant. We got lucky.
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Mike
Well, it turned out to be irrelevant.
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Trio of Positivity
Can I just say, can I just say this would have been the worst game to go to overtime? Like given, given, given, given what I've seen, I think this would have been the worst.
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Ben
No, I, you know what though?
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Ben
As much as I,
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Mike
What
Debate on Bears' Offensive Strategies
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Mike
are you talking about?
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Ben
as much as I like to hate on Caleb, he big game drives it, dude.
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Ben
When it games on the line, he has been actually leading us for touchdowns and I'm not going to take that away from him. He's, he is an end of the game specialist.
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Trio of Positivity
Well, I mean, you can say that. That's fine. I i value your opinion on that. I value everyone's opinion.
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Mike
Except mine.
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Trio of Positivity
To an extent. um
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Trio of Positivity
One thing we've which Miller forgot to put in his notes because he doesn't do the research.
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Mike
ah You do.
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Trio of Positivity
The Bears just won their 800th win in franchise history, marking them number two overall in wins. I figured that would have been ah maybe that could have been more of the glazing side.
00:14:02
Trio of Positivity
um But I guess we can all agree the offense did not look as good as we hoped, given what we were looking at from last week. which my point stands correct. We've yet to have two consecutive offensive games where we actually look competent.
00:14:17
Trio of Positivity
We are back to square one. Hopefully we bounce back.
00:14:19
Mike
You're not back to square run, you dumbass.
00:14:22
Trio of Positivity
we
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Mike
Jesus.
00:14:23
Trio of Positivity
Can you let me finish? Good sir. We are back to square one when it comes to getting two good offensive games in a row.
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Mike
Whatever.
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Trio of Positivity
See, he knows I'm right. That's why he's doing that.
00:14:40
Mike
i mean... ah At the end of the day, not every game going to be purpose perfect.
00:14:42
Trio of Positivity
We got the win. I understand it. Listen, Miller, I understand that.
00:14:45
Mike
we're not It's not going to be perfect every time. We're not going to put up 300 yards every game and four touchdowns.
00:14:47
Trio of Positivity
I understand that.
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Trio of Positivity
Here's the thing, though.
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Mike
It's not going to happen. But the problem is when you don't... I'm not going to get there. um It's MGM. Can I get my MGM moment now?
00:14:57
Trio of Positivity
you want your MGM now or do you want Ben to finish his thought?
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Mike
Well, Ben was...
00:14:59
Ben
No, i'm i'm going I'm going to ruin it afterwards. Let him let him glaze first.
00:15:02
Mike
and
00:15:03
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
00:15:03
Mike
Ben's brain wasn't working there. He was just breathing heavy, so I just took over the reins.
00:15:07
Trio of Positivity
Okay, are are we going to talk about anything else on your stuff here, or are we are we good to keep going?
00:15:13
Mike
I covered the key plays. If there's any other key plays that you saw, well, Ben thinks that the two-point conversion was important, but...
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Trio of Positivity
Okay.
00:15:17
Ben
Well, what about Tyreek's pick? That was an insane catch. That was awesome.
00:15:24
Trio of Positivity
Full extension.
00:15:25
Ben
That was awesome.
00:15:25
Mike
I mean, I kind of covered the turnovers, but yes.
00:15:26
Trio of Positivity
And the bounce back, the bounce like onto his feet was pretty cool, too.
00:15:28
Ben
You
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Ben
I think that's what, I think he got the wind knocked out of him That's why he was struggling.
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Trio of Positivity
you
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Mike
I was so worried that he was going to be out. I was like, fuck, when he went down.
00:15:40
Ben
Yeah.
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Trio of Positivity
I think I recall, I forget where it was in the group chat. We were celebrating a turnover of of some kind. And I just see someone write, Oh no, because we thought was someone was injured.
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Ben
That was me.
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Trio of Positivity
And I'm like, what did I miss?
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Ben
Yep.
00:15:54
Mike
yeah
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Trio of Positivity
And then Miller right away to save the day is like, Nope, heard. He was a, he heard he worked. He walked on his own. We're good.
00:16:02
Ben
Well, he just said the the crowd clapped and I didn't see that on my, on my end.
00:16:02
Mike
yeah i heard
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Trio of Positivity
And I'll,
00:16:06
Ben
So I thought he was down.
00:16:08
Mike
I heard cheering going into the break, so I figured that he got up.
00:16:13
Trio of Positivity
All right, Miller, I'm going to start a timer. You get one minute. This is Miller's glazing minute of Caleb Williams' performance on week four. Take it away.
00:16:24
Mike
I was just really proud of this and I had a scrubs moment. So I'm going lead it off with one of these roller coaster. Holy roller.
00:16:35
Mike
I was feeling that song today at work. That is what Caleb's William day was like yesterday. um Very much a roller coaster from the start. The offense started so slow.
00:16:48
Mike
Like I mentioned earlier, we had 10 yards of offense after two key turnovers from our defense, and it didn't really improve from there as far as the first half is concerned. Max Crosby had a huge impact, deflecting three passes of Caleb's, which limited him.
00:17:05
Mike
But going into the second half, he really turned up the heat, ended up scoring twice in the second half touchdowns. One of them was a game-winning drive that we we talked about. Really settled in.
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Mike
He did have his moments, some inaccurate throws, but overall, not as good as last week, obviously, but he put up one TD, one in
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Trio of Positivity
And ladies and gentlemen, that is Miller's glazing minute. Yes, that's right.
00:17:32
Ben
Oh, he muted him.
00:17:32
Trio of Positivity
We mute him when he goes over a minute of glazing. So Ben, what did you think of his minute? That's going to be the new segment. He will just be muted after a minute.
00:17:41
Mike
ah
00:17:44
Trio of Positivity
That's all we're giving him.
00:17:45
Ben
Well, to be fair, he didn't glaze as hard as I thought he would, which is...
00:17:46
Trio of Positivity
And then we can have a normal conversation. So Ben, what do you think?
00:17:52
Trio of Positivity
I figured the glazing was going to come at the very beginning. Like I, I, he's, he's edging us.
00:17:54
Ben
as um it's appropriate. It's appropriate.
00:17:57
Trio of Positivity
He's leaving us on climax here.
00:17:59
Ben
All right, some stats to to showcase Caleb's inaccuracy downfield once again. One for four on deep balls over 20. ah Three for eight on passes from 10 to 20 yards, and one of those is a pick.
00:18:15
Ben
And then his short stuff was short stuff. Pretty good there. i will say on his behalf, When he escapes the pocket and does that sideline sprint, he can absolutely rifle of ball.
00:18:28
Ben
Like the one to come commit that bounced off the turf as he was catching it, like that.
00:18:32
Mike
bounced off his hands
00:18:33
Ben
No, it bounced off the turf.
00:18:34
Trio of Positivity
It bounced off the turf.
00:18:35
Ben
But anyway, yes, he did drop it, but.
00:18:36
Mike
he dropped it
00:18:37
Trio of Positivity
Miller, Miller, Miller, your glazing's got to come down now.
00:18:40
Ben
But what I'm saying is that ball was BB.
00:18:40
Trio of Positivity
We gave you a minute.
00:18:44
Ben
He, that was insane power from, from on the run. So I'll give him that. He does throw the ball really, really hard.
00:18:53
Trio of Positivity
Threw it so hard it hit a swift on his hands and bounced off of him too on that short one.
00:18:57
Ben
Oh God, that was terrible.
00:19:01
Trio of Positivity
And I got told that no, it wasn't hard. That was a fucking bullet.
00:19:04
Ben
yeah That was a bullet.
00:19:06
Mike
Yeah, you still catch that.
00:19:06
Ben
And you see, she,
00:19:07
Mike
What
00:19:07
Trio of Positivity
No, you don't. He's so
00:19:09
Ben
he should He should have caught it, but that was that was too hard.
00:19:11
Mike
are you talking about?
00:19:12
Ben
That was a little too hard.
00:19:13
Trio of Positivity
Miller, stand five feet away from me and let me just chuck the shit out of a football.
00:19:16
Mike
It wasn't five feet.
00:19:17
Trio of Positivity
It was five feet.
00:19:17
Mike
It was like five yards. The problem is Swift was looking ahead and then he didn't turn his head back to Caleb quick enough. So the ball hit him as soon as he was looking at Caleb.
00:19:28
Trio of Positivity
Cause the ball went a hundred miles an hour.
00:19:30
Ben
It sure did.
00:19:31
Trio of Positivity
What do you mean?
00:19:32
Mike
Okay, so if he would have floated it to him, he would have gotten probably rocked by a defender, and then you guys would be talking about how Caleb left his running back out to dry. So you can't have it both ways.
00:19:41
Trio of Positivity
of course this is not going to be a win win for him. I'm not going to give you layups.
00:19:47
Ben
Another awesome stat, ah ESPN Analytics has the two most open wide receivers in the NFL. Can you guess their names?
00:19:56
Mike
Okay.
00:19:57
Trio of Positivity
Wait, the two in the and and overall NFL?
00:19:58
Ben
Overall NFL all wide receivers. The
In-Depth Game Analysis and Future Predictions
00:20:02
Ben
top two. Guess who they are?
00:20:06
Trio of Positivity
Um... I... God, don't let it be more.
00:20:09
Mike
It's DJ Moore and Roma Tunes.
00:20:10
Ben
It sure as fuck is.
00:20:12
Trio of Positivity
No way!
00:20:12
Ben
And guess what? Guess what? Caleb can't hit fucking DJ to save his life. And Rome had another Rome game where he looked really good and then not so good.
00:20:18
Trio of Positivity
oh no...
00:20:23
Ben
Let's skip over Komet because that was something awful.
00:20:25
Trio of Positivity
right Well, hold on. Listen, in fairness to Miller, I don't think he got to finish all his points on Caleb. he He was kind of going.
00:20:32
Mike
No, I'm waiting. i have one more thing up my sleeve.
00:20:34
Trio of Positivity
Go for it.
00:20:34
Mike
that i No, we'll continue.
00:20:35
Trio of Positivity
Go for it. Go for it.
00:20:37
Mike
We'll continue.
00:20:38
Trio of Positivity
Just know that that's going to be our segment.
00:20:39
Mike
I think
00:20:40
Trio of Positivity
It's Miller's glazing minute. You get one minute. Unpromptly, you get to say whatever you want. We won't do anything. But when that minute's up, I'm cutting that mic.
00:20:49
Ben
but what what How many sacks do they have against the Bears? It's just right? mean...
00:20:54
Mike
and it was just one.
00:20:55
Trio of Positivity
There's one.
00:20:55
Ben
just one right i mean
00:20:57
Mike
Yeah, there should have been more. i think there was one where he was like, i think there should have been, there was one where he got tackled, but I think they ruled it a run.
00:20:59
Trio of Positivity
There should have been at least four.
00:21:05
Trio of Positivity
ah the one where he also the pocket completely collapsed on him and he did this one swivel move or like like ah I forgot what it looked like. I'm like, he should have been sacked. I even said it out loud like that should have been a sack and he got out of it. So.
00:21:21
Ben
Dude, i i again, I'm not going to glaze him too hard, but he is incredible at doing that. He is almost as good as Justin Fields at escaping the pocket.
00:21:32
Trio of Positivity
And that was a collapsed pocket. That wasn't even a design like, I just need to move.
00:21:39
Mike
Justin Fields is so good at escaping the pocket because he doesn't even stand in the pocket. He just gets the ball and runs.
00:21:43
Trio of Positivity
You can't call it escape, though.
00:21:43
Ben
Man, were you what were you watching that game?
00:21:44
Mike
Okay.
00:21:45
Ben
that Dude, there was absolutely nobody blocking for him tonight. but Every single play, every single snap.
00:21:51
Mike
It's always the excuse with calle with Fields and never with Caleb.
00:21:53
Ben
Just this this watch the film.
00:21:54
Trio of Positivity
Is it not true, though?
00:21:54
Mike
All right, back to me. Back to me.
00:21:56
Trio of Positivity
hold on. Is it not true, though?
00:21:58
Ben
It's true. he Miller just won't admit it, but it is true. He had a free rusher every single play.
00:22:01
Mike
No, I'm not going to
00:22:02
Trio of Positivity
Also, can we talk about what happened today where he's like, oh, Fields threw 21 yards. Imagine if Caleb did that. And I was like, yeah, he threw negative four against the 49er.
00:22:11
Mike
to. He didn't throw negative four, you idiot. He threw like 37.
00:22:14
Trio of Positivity
Sacks count. Sacks count. What do you mean?
00:22:16
Mike
Okay, then go pull up fields. He didn't, I mean, at the time he had a few sacks.
00:22:18
Trio of Positivity
He actually didn't. He didn't get sacked for 40 yards. That's what made the difference.
00:22:22
Mike
He had like the sack fumble.
00:22:24
Ben
yeah Yeah, that was bad. That was bad.
00:22:26
Trio of Positivity
That was good.
00:22:27
Mike
um
00:22:27
Trio of Positivity
Go for it.
00:22:27
Mike
Okay. Through his first 21 games, Caleb Williams has 28 touchdowns and eight interceptions.
00:22:30
Trio of Positivity
Oh, here we go. God damn it. I should have cut it off already.
00:22:34
Mike
This is the best start by a number one pick in NFL history.
00:22:41
Trio of Positivity
According to who?
00:22:41
Ben
and that And that has resulted in a total of seven fucking wins. So seven wins, baby.
00:22:47
Trio of Positivity
Wait, according to who?
00:22:48
Ben
Seven.
00:22:48
Trio of Positivity
Who's your source on that?
00:22:50
Mike
yeah I think it's just the best touchdown to interception ratio through 21 games.
00:22:54
Trio of Positivity
Okay, who's your source?
00:22:55
Ben
Yeah.
00:22:57
Mike
Go count his touchdowns interceptions.
00:22:59
Trio of Positivity
Jesus. Jesus. All right, let's okay let's let's get into his actual performance.
00:23:01
Mike
It's not a source. It's a fucking stat.
00:23:06
Trio of Positivity
Miller gobbled down as much as he as much as he could here. um I will give credit to Caleb. The run game was non-existent, which caused him to be more...
00:23:17
Mike
Oh, really? Because that wasn't the end of your the and tax that you sent. Apparently, Swift was the MVP.
00:23:22
Trio of Positivity
Oh, i I have a point. I have a point to make on that, but yeah, the run game was non-existent. um I always mess up his name, Miller.
00:23:35
Trio of Positivity
Kyle.
00:23:36
Ben
Monongai.
00:23:37
Mike
Manungai?
00:23:38
Trio of Positivity
Thank you. Manungai, there was some spurts where I'm like, okay, he could be the guy, but now I'm looking at his stats. He only had four carries. So I thought he had more. um
00:23:48
Ben
No.
00:23:49
Trio of Positivity
So ah boys, are you guys?
00:23:51
Mike
Where are you? where are Where are you?
00:23:51
Trio of Positivity
So here's, so here's, here's my question.
00:23:53
Mike
Where are you in the the agenda? Where are you on the agenda?
00:23:55
Trio of Positivity
This, it's not an agenda. I had a question because yeah we're we're switching to the offense. So I have a question.
00:23:59
Mike
You just talked about the running game.
00:24:01
Trio of Positivity
Yes. The running game being an issue for Caleb, this is called a transition. It's a transition.
00:24:05
Mike
Yeah, that's like four fucking bullet points down.
00:24:08
Trio of Positivity
Again, could give two shits about your agenda. But um how much is this going to affect Caleb in the long run if the Bears cannot seem to produce a running back?
00:24:21
Ben
Well, we're fucked on the running back situation unless we get a trade, which I don't see polls doing. So we're just going to have to deal with Swift to the end of the year. I think when the offensive line gets back to being healthy, you put Darnell right back out there. Hopefully Braxton Jones is healthy coming out of the buy.
00:24:41
Ben
They can move the line.
00:24:42
Mike
Thank
00:24:42
Ben
The interior is really solid. Running to the left isn't our strong point. Running to the right is better. And it's just a matter of Swift hitting a hole. The guy is a magnet to our O-Lyman's rear ends and just falls over.
00:24:58
Ben
He just needs to learn how to be a running back. And until that happens, the running game is going to struggle.
00:25:05
Mike
I mean, he's not going to learn how to be a running back. What is this is like eighth season. He's not going to change. He is who he is. So what I see happening here is I see after they're going to take their moments to evaluate all the tape.
00:25:18
Mike
I think Manunga is going to get more carries going forward, because if you look at this game, he averaged four point seven a clip. Obviously, it's a small sample size of four carries. But, I mean, Swift has been averaging 2.7 the last two games.
00:25:31
Mike
Is that really worth keeping trying? ands I mean, he's not.
00:25:34
Trio of Positivity
So here's the
00:25:35
Mike
He's a change of pace back. He needs to be given the ball in space, and that's what he does. He doesn't run through the tackle. So why keep trying something that doesn't work?
00:25:43
Trio of Positivity
So I'm glad you brought it up in that way because the last drive, there was a lot of touches to Swift that set up the touchdown, which I found it surprising um that we would do that given that we had no success. So it's nice to see that Johnson is trying, still trying to make that part of the identity of the team that, hey, even though we're sucking, we're going to give our running backs the ball. We're going to give them the ball.
00:26:13
Trio of Positivity
So I think a lot of Swift's numbers for this game were carries that help set up the team, and not necessarily get the yardage. Now, in the group chat, yes, I did say that Swift helped tremendously because on some of the possessions that we had in that last drive had Swift's name all over it.
00:26:34
Trio of Positivity
So just putting that out there, I'm not saying it's a key to success for the future. I'm just saying if Johnson has the balls to put the ball on him towards the end, even though our rushing game was not there,
00:26:47
Trio of Positivity
There might be something to this, but I'm agreeing with Miller. I or I'm sorry, whoever said it might have been Ben. um I
Evaluation of Bears' Defensive Performance
00:26:53
Trio of Positivity
forget who just said it. I apologize, guys. I think Manangai might get more of the first second down touches and Swift will become that third down back.
00:27:04
Mike
Yeah.
00:27:04
Ben
Maybe, but he's still a rookie, so you're not going to get him on the full package.
00:27:09
Trio of Positivity
We've had this before with rookies, though. Who was the rook? ah Was it Thomas? Thomas was a no Benson. Wasn't it Benson that also got touches like that as a rookie and he seemed to be fine?
00:27:18
Mike
But he was drafted higher. I mean, the problem has been when you don't have anything left, what are you supposed to do?
00:27:24
Ben
I mean, they haven't used Roshan at all.
00:27:24
Mike
Like, go look at
00:27:26
Ben
they they I don't understand.
00:27:26
Mike
Which is still, this that's like the biggest question in Chicago right now. Like, why haven't they used him at all?
00:27:32
Mike
It's it's kind of crazy.
00:27:32
Ben
Right.
00:27:34
Ben
He plays special teams and he gets holding on punting.
00:27:34
Mike
But like,
00:27:37
Ben
So he's clearly healthy enough to play. But well that I understand, but he's buddy's playing, right?
00:27:40
Mike
he got a tackle. He did get its big tackle.
00:27:45
Ben
So if he's playing special teams, why the hell aren't we using him on short yardage downs where he can run through two guys and get the three yards we need?
00:27:45
Mike
Yeah.
00:27:53
Mike
I have no fucking idea. It's crazy.
00:27:55
Ben
It is absolutely insane.
00:27:56
Mike
But, I mean, you go look you go look at what the Houston Texans just did. Obviously, they have their mixing issue, and obviously they had they signed Nick Chubb, right? But then they have a fourth-round rookie in Willie Marks.
00:28:08
Mike
That over the last first four games has slowly taken over. And then this last week he went for over 100 total yards and two touchdowns. Like just because they're drafted later doesn't mean they're going to be irrelevant when you don't have an effective running game. Why are you keep beating a dead horse?
00:28:24
Ben
a seventh round pick that shouldn't even have been drafted.
00:28:24
Mike
You can't run through the tackles.
00:28:27
Ben
He was not on anybody's board. Monungai was going to be a UDFA. We could have got him for free and taken ah a gamble on somebody else.
00:28:35
Mike
Oh, give me a break. Every single player that's drafted in the seventh round, you can argue is going to be a UDFA.
00:28:42
Ben
Okay. What about Hippolyte in the sixth or fifth or whatever?
00:28:44
Mike
Okay, we've we've already we've heard yeah that we've already had in this conversation.
00:28:46
Ben
I'm just saying, like,
00:28:47
Mike
I'm just saying, if you're you can't call seventh rounders, they're going to be UDFAs. Like, obviously, a seventh rounder has a high probability of possibly being a UDFA.
00:28:54
Trio of Positivity
ah
00:28:57
Trio of Positivity
so just doing ah
00:28:57
Mike
But the Hippolyte, yes, we've already had this discussion. It was a horrible pick. Yeah.
00:29:02
Trio of Positivity
So just doing a quick ah Google search in news on Roshan Johnson, there really hasn't been um anything. The only thing that seems to be consistent is it seems to have a foot injury, seems to be repetitive on multiple places.
00:29:18
Trio of Positivity
Wednesday ah announcements of people that are practicing. So it does look like there is there. I mean, i' I'm speculating here, of course, um but it could be that maybe they're having him slowly ease into things.
00:29:27
Ben
don't
00:29:33
Trio of Positivity
I don't know. I don't know why you would even list them, but ah was he rumored to get cut? Before the season?
00:29:39
Ben
don' think so.
00:29:39
Mike
no
00:29:40
Trio of Positivity
I don't think so, right? i know that Ben Johnson said good things about ah the rookie, um but I don't think it was good enough to replace Roshan Johnson. and think we're all in agreement there.
00:29:53
Trio of Positivity
Okay, moving on. ah Miller, is there anything you want to point out on this agenda of yours?
00:29:58
Mike
don' I don't know where the fuck we are anymore.
00:30:00
Trio of Positivity
We're at the very beginning.
00:30:01
Mike
we'll start at the We'll start at the top of offensive performance.
00:30:02
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, go at the beginning.
00:30:05
Mike
um The offensive line meltdown and shuffle that occurred. Obviously, if you watch the first half of the game, the ah offensive line was pathetic, to say the least.
00:30:10
Ben
Thank you.
00:30:18
Mike
Max Crosby was in the backfield. Almost every play, it seemed like. We started the game with Theo Benedict on the right tackle because Darnell Wright was missing. And as much hate as I've spewed about Darnell Wright, I will beg on my knees.
00:30:32
Mike
ah Please come back. I will give you the Caleb treatment if you need it.
00:30:38
Mike
um but like, come on, we need him back because the right side of our line was just awful for the first half of the game. um Then there's some, there's a lot of smoke with the Darnell art, not Darnell Braxton Jones situation. Apparently has a, he has a foot injury. I haven't really heard anything official on that.
00:30:59
Mike
Some people are saying that he kind of got benched because he played so poorly in the first half. We don't really know what happened there, but basically towards the end of the first half, Theo Benedict got moved to the left side of the line, and then Ozzy Trapillo came in on the right side of the line, and it really seemed to stabilize the line for the most part going into the second half.
00:31:22
Mike
So at least we know the kid can play. I mean, he's a second round talent. and We drafted Ozzy Trapillo steps in at his normal position and plays. So that's a positive. Obviously we drafted him to be a left tackle, but whatever.
00:31:37
Mike
ah whoo who Who fucks drafts people anyways? But um that was one thing that was a big key getting that stabilization. It seemed to really help the offense start to move the ball as I think they got a field goal.
00:31:50
Mike
before half and then they obviously scored two touchdowns in the second half.
00:31:55
Ben
I mean, he looked good one-on-one against Crosby. He handled him more times than not. So I think, I think worst case scenario at the end of the year, we get rid of Braxton and we slide Darnell to the left side.
00:32:09
Ben
Trapillo takes over the right side and now you got your tackles. Worst case scenario, right?
00:32:13
Mike
Yeah.
00:32:15
Ben
Cause I don't know if Darnell can play the left cause he was only a right tackle in, in Tennessee, but if if If Chapillo can look that good against Crosby in his first NFL game, like you've got a stud, right?
00:32:31
Mike
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:34
Trio of Positivity
um I just want to point out something, though, as much as we want to bitch on the offensive line, Max Crosby balled out like there's no other way of putting it like his performance alone carried that team like the the amount of time, ah the amount of times that I saw that there was a specific replay that I saw and Ben, you can probably, you can probably see where I'm going to this.
00:33:00
Trio of Positivity
He knew exactly what Caleb was doing to the point where the replay showed him just taking one step forward. He stopped, stopped rushing completely and then just put his hands up.
00:33:11
Mike
That's okay, but that doesn't...
00:33:11
Trio of Positivity
Like,
00:33:14
Mike
The offensive line shouldn't allow that. That's the problem. You're not supposed to just...
00:33:18
Trio of Positivity
No, you're not understanding. no No, you're not understanding what I'm saying. What I'm saying is the offensive line could have kept pushing him back no matter what.
00:33:20
Mike
I understand what you're...
00:33:25
Trio of Positivity
He already knew where that ball was going. Like Crosby knew where.
00:33:28
Mike
No, what he was doing, he was waiting to try to knock the ball down.
00:33:29
Trio of Positivity
Because he knew where the pass was going.
00:33:31
Mike
That's what he was doing. The offensive line... But the offensive line was not engaging with him. You can't do that if you're of an offensive lineman. You can't let a lineman just put your hand up.
00:33:39
Trio of Positivity
Miller, when you're past... Right, but when you're past blocking...
00:33:41
Mike
You're supposed to hit them. That's the point.
00:33:43
Trio of Positivity
No, when... No, no, no. When you're past blocking, you take steps back. You don't go forward at him. When you're past blocking on the line, you take steps back and and put your hands out there.
00:33:53
Trio of Positivity
On a run block, you push forward. So the fact that...
00:33:56
Mike
I understand that, but when you have a guy that's blocking jumping up purposefully because he knows where the ball's going, you're supposed to engage with him, knock him to the ground, so that they don't keep doing the same thing.
00:33:57
Trio of Positivity
Right, so...
00:34:08
Trio of Positivity
Okay, you're talking about general... was just talking about the one replay. If you want to get into...
00:34:12
Mike
i mean, he did it three times. if you If he's going to continue to do it, you can't just let him sit that sit back there, watch the quarterback's eyes, and then jump.
00:34:15
Trio of Positivity
and Right, but on this one...
00:34:19
Trio of Positivity
I don't recall him sitting back on all the other attempts. I can go back and check. This specific one just caught my attention because it almost like either the Bears had a tell, knew the play. Maybe they did some some views on the on the film study, whatever it was.
00:34:37
Trio of Positivity
It just seemed to be like he knew where that play was going at that time. If you want to talk about the rest of the game of like, oh, they should have done this or that. Sure. I'll give that to you.
00:34:48
Trio of Positivity
But my specific example was just one where on a pass blocking scenario, he literally just took like a jab step, stayed still, and then pushed up.
00:35:00
Trio of Positivity
That's all I'm going to say on that. But Max Crosby balled out.
00:35:01
Mike
I know, and I agree with you.
00:35:03
Trio of Positivity
Right.
00:35:03
Mike
This was really good, but the point is, as an offensive lineman, you can't just let a defensive lineman do that.
00:35:10
Trio of Positivity
It's Max Crosby too, though.
00:35:12
Ben
No, you just, like Miller says, if he goes up in the air, you put two hands in his chest and shove as hard as you can. They're coached to do that. Now, whether that was when Benedict was in and he just wasn't good enough, I don't recall that exact play that you're talking about, but I think it was in the first half.
00:35:29
Ben
So I think Benedict was so worried about getting beat on the edge that he didn't have the opportunity to come back and engage before the pass was knocked down.
00:35:40
Mike
Or maybe he just didn't want to because he knew he was going to get beat if he did.
00:35:44
Trio of Positivity
The thing is, though, but but that's what I'm saying.
00:35:44
Ben
Right, that's what saying.
00:35:46
Trio of Positivity
Like, that kind of goes back to... I'm going to say that they scouted the Bears pretty well. And knowing that if you have a guy like Crosby, that's just going to happen. i don't I don't know. I don't want to get too much into like this one specific thing. I just want to give Crosby his flowers because he really had a hell of a game.
00:36:06
Trio of Positivity
He played great, took advantage of a situation. And so as much as I want to bitch about the O-line being what it is, when you're dealing with him... Like, hey, it is what it is.
00:36:16
Ben
Yeah, but it's the NFL. We're going to have to play against Micah Parsons twice a year. We have to play against Hutchinson twice a year.
00:36:21
Trio of Positivity
Brother, brother, the Dallas Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys just threw 40 points on Parsons.
00:36:22
Ben
You can't keep making these excuses.
00:36:28
Trio of Positivity
We got nothing to worry about. All right.
00:36:28
Ben
Yeah, that's true.
00:36:30
Ben
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:31
Trio of Positivity
We got nothing to worry about. No, but I see your point.
00:36:32
Ben
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:34
Trio of Positivity
you're I'm just saying this was a great performance that I got to see. Yeah.
00:36:37
Ben
No, he did. he He played really well, and no one's saying he didn't.
Special Teams' Role in Bears' Win
00:36:40
Ben
ah I think another big issue that we had was because you can't establish the run, you're going to get those types of of defensive plays because they don't have to worry about you running the ball.
00:36:46
Trio of Positivity
Yes.
00:36:52
Ben
So until we can figure out until we can figure out how to push the line forward and have Swift hit a fucking hole, we're going to struggle.
00:36:53
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:36:53
Mike
That's a good point
00:36:59
Mike
well Well what we can do is we can just do the stumble bomb and the flea flicker to avoid that right?
00:37:06
Ben
Dude, that fake fleet flicker, I was so pissed. I'm like, you're not running the fleet flicker twice. And then he took off.
00:37:13
Trio of Positivity
You got baited.
00:37:13
Mike
I actually, i really liked the fake flea flicker.
00:37:14
Ben
That was awesome.
00:37:14
Trio of Positivity
You got baited.
00:37:16
Ben
I got baited.
00:37:19
Mike
I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't think that was the stumble bump. I thought he just tripped.
00:37:26
Trio of Positivity
um
00:37:27
Ben
We'll never know.
00:37:27
Mike
But really liked the fake field goal. I thought that was really good.
00:37:31
Ben
The fake flea flicker.
00:37:33
Mike
The fake flea flicker. Yeah, that's the one. I really liked that one. Other than the face pass face mask penalty on Swift.
00:37:42
Ben
Well, that was stupid on his part.
00:37:42
Trio of Positivity
Boys, how...
00:37:44
Mike
yeah
00:37:45
Trio of Positivity
Boys, I'm trying to find the numbers here. i don't know why it's showing me. Oh, OK, I found it. ah Miller, how do you feel about the Bears now and Ben Johnson with his fourth down plays?
00:37:57
Trio of Positivity
Do you feel like you're. you're Yeah, it took a couple of weeks.
00:37:59
Mike
I'm used to it. yeah I was was sitting here with my my mom's boyfriend talking about it I'm just like it is what it is, bro.
00:38:08
Trio of Positivity
You are not surprised anymore.
00:38:08
Mike
It is what it is. Yeah.
00:38:09
Trio of Positivity
i was going to send you a message and be like, hey, how you doing over here?
00:38:09
Mike
no
00:38:12
Trio of Positivity
Like, because I figured I was going to get a why are we doing this on fourth?
00:38:16
Mike
No, I'm done.
00:38:16
Trio of Positivity
um But i I just wanted to to bring that in.
00:38:21
Ben
I love it. I love the aggressiveness.
00:38:22
Mike
mother i'm I'm on the mindset that every time we're at a fourth down in front of the 40, we're going for it.
00:38:23
Ben
I love it.
00:38:27
Trio of Positivity
It's going. Yeah.
00:38:30
Mike
And basically, if it's in front of our 40, we're probably going for it if it's like fourth and two. so
00:38:37
Trio of Positivity
Our third, just for the record, third down efficiency for the Bears, they went seven and 16.
00:38:37
Mike
whatever.
00:38:41
Trio of Positivity
It
00:38:44
Ben
You know what? It started like two and nine, so it got better as the game went on.
00:38:47
Trio of Positivity
got better.
00:38:48
Ben
but
00:38:48
Trio of Positivity
yeah
00:38:48
Mike
Yeah,
00:38:49
Ben
But again, I think that was the ah offensive line switch up really helped solidify that passing attack because Crosby was damn near invisible in the second half.
00:39:01
Mike
yeah he was. And the other thing that we had to deal with was ah the lack of tight end efficiency as Cole Komet dropped two or three passes. If it hits your hands, it's fucking catchable, bitches.
00:39:14
Ben
ah You're such a bitch. Yeah.
00:39:16
Mike
Not saying that it was a good throw, but you should catch it. But he did have
00:39:20
Trio of Positivity
Not saying it was a good throw, but you should catch it.
00:39:21
Mike
one
00:39:23
Trio of Positivity
That's going to be miller's Miller's fantastic quote.
00:39:24
Mike
That's the facts. That's the facts.
00:39:27
Trio of Positivity
um Okay, so...
00:39:27
Mike
he did have He did have the really bad drop across the middle.
00:39:30
Ben
Yep. yep
00:39:31
Mike
That was the bad one.
00:39:31
Trio of Positivity
um
00:39:32
Mike
And then I still don't think it bounced on the one on the sideline. And that other one that was where where he's fully... yeah That was bad one. But on top of those drops, he had two penalties, I think.
00:39:44
Ben
False starts or whatever
00:39:44
Mike
ah False starts. And I think he might have had a holding. I don't remember. It was just a bad day for Cole Komet overall.
00:39:51
Ben
it was.
00:39:51
Mike
um
00:39:52
Trio of Positivity
Boys, I just want to put this out there.
00:39:52
Mike
Just pathetic.
00:39:54
Trio of Positivity
i i've i've I've mentioned it multiple times on the podcast. I think you guys know how much I actually like Cole Komet. I think he I've i've mentioned this.
00:40:04
Trio of Positivity
I am officially worried now for Cole Komet.
00:40:07
Ben
no, no, no, no.
00:40:07
Trio of Positivity
um Hold on. Let me finish. Calm your tits.
00:40:09
Ben
how
00:40:10
Mike
Let him finish. i don't agree with Ben on this.
00:40:11
Trio of Positivity
Let me finish.
00:40:13
Mike
I agree with Chris.
00:40:15
Trio of Positivity
So here's here's the thing. And I hate this because I've watched multiple games now because thank you, Red Zone, even though your commercials are actually OK. I'm OK with the Red Zone commercials. Let's put that out there, too. um I've been seeing tight ends be main focal points to a point where if the tight end works, it seems that the running game works. It seems that the passing game gets better.
00:40:38
Trio of Positivity
Now, is that football? Yeah, you can say that and if you get any of those three parts, you might have a great team on the offensive side. Sure, I might be beating the that horse here.
00:40:48
Trio of Positivity
But the fact that when we didn't have, and I'm horrible with names, but we didn't have the ah rookie tight end our first, yeah, we didn't have Loveland.
00:40:55
Mike
Colson Loveland.
00:40:57
Trio of Positivity
I honestly thought, oh, Komet's going to get more touches, baby. Komet's going to get more looks.
00:41:05
Ben
Well, first
Ben Johnson's Halftime Interview Controversy
00:41:06
Ben
of all, he definitely had more targets today than he has all season.
00:41:06
Mike
He probably did, didn't he? What was his target count?
00:41:10
Trio of Positivity
he led He led the team in targets and had only three completions.
00:41:11
Ben
and
00:41:15
Ben
So here's here's what I will say, though, is you have, well, look, Ben Johnson, especially in Detroit, spreads the ball around to everyone.
00:41:15
Mike
Yeah, so he got more targets.
00:41:18
Trio of Positivity
But that's why I'm worried.
00:41:26
Ben
Luther Burden had one of the worst offensive games in the history of football. I think he got, what, negative four points on my fantasy? Like, he got the ball four times. You got DJ Moore, you got to get the ball. You got Roman Dunsley, you got to get the ball. Swift and Mononga got the ball a bunch. Komet got the ball bunch. Zaccheaus gets the ball.
00:41:43
Ben
Like, you're not going to have and ah guy get 12 targets in a Ben Johnson offense. So the fact that Komet had more targets today, that means the defense was leaving him more open.
00:41:54
Ben
And they were focusing on the receivers.
00:41:55
Trio of Positivity
That's why I'm worried.
00:41:57
Ben
Okay. He had one bad game out of what? Four years with the bears, five years. Like you guys are such doomers for one game.
00:42:02
Trio of Positivity
No.
00:42:04
Trio of Positivity
No, the thing is the consistency of commit like this game.
00:42:05
Ben
Give me a break.
00:42:08
Trio of Positivity
So just to give you his, his stat lines per ESPN, three completions, 46 total yards. As long as was 29, he was targeted nine times. He led the team in targets. The one that was before that was a doing day with eight and then Zaccheaus with six and Swift also had six.
00:42:23
Mike
You just, Chris preaches this nonstop.
00:42:24
Trio of Positivity
So,
00:42:30
Mike
When somebody was on the team before the regime changed, they can get cut at any time. You see the writing on the wall for DJ Moore and Cole Komet right now.
00:42:42
Trio of Positivity
that Sadly, you do.
00:42:42
Mike
Yes, they're part of the offense. They're part of the offense, but they're not key cogs of this offense. And you don't spend a 10th overall pick in the NFL draft on a tight end to pay another tight end $14 million.
00:42:57
Mike
dollars You just don't do that.
00:42:58
Ben
They already paid him. They paid him and then did the draft. It's not the other way around.
00:43:02
Mike
I know I'm talking next year. We're talking future here. We're not talking what we did in the past. They were going to keep him because it wasn't smart enough for them to cut Cole Komet this year.
00:43:06
Trio of Positivity
So let me ask you this question.
00:43:11
Trio of Positivity
Right.
00:43:11
Mike
But going forward, I think he's probably going to get released next year. I just don't think he's important enough to do that.
00:43:15
Trio of Positivity
Then given. OK, so hold on. I see the face that you're. Let me just ask this question to you then. If if he is on on this pace. So right now at four games, ah seven receptions, one 16 with one touchdown, whatever estimations you want to make and and in the four games ah that he's played, whatever.
00:43:34
Trio of Positivity
Is that enough to keep him?
00:43:36
Ben
I mean, he's on average, what, like 700 yards a year? Like, he's not far off from – he had one bad game, and you guys were like, he's going to get cut. I understand that we have two tight ends now.
00:43:48
Ben
Colston Loveland hasn't proven himself yet. Yes, does he look good? Yes. Are we excited because he was a top-ten pick? We should be, but – He hasn't proven anything yet. And the fact is, Cole Komet, other than yesterday, has been a really solid receiver. His completion percentage has been awesome.
00:44:08
Ben
So don't give me this cut bullshit.
00:44:08
Trio of Positivity
Do you know why his completion? hold on. Do you know why his completion percentage has been good? Because he's only gotten one or two catches per game. That's it.
00:44:17
Ben
And he makes the catch when he needs to.
00:44:18
Mike
mean
00:44:19
Ben
like that's He's always been reliable. He's had one bad game, and you're willing to cut ties. This is just incredibly doomer.
00:44:27
Mike
No, it's not one.
00:44:27
Ben
It's unbelievable.
00:44:28
Mike
It does nothing to do with the game. It has to do with the writing on the wall. Come on.
00:44:34
Ben
He's got, what, three or four years left in this contract. If you're going to trade him, fine.
00:44:37
Mike
No, he doesn't. There's no way.
00:44:39
Ben
Look, oh my God. What are we just on him for?
00:44:41
Mike
Look it up.
00:44:42
Trio of Positivity
Miller's just saying that. I think he's wrong. I think he's got like two years left.
00:44:46
Mike
I think he has two years. He said three or four.
00:44:49
Trio of Positivity
I think it's two.
00:44:53
Trio of Positivity
Two with an option.
00:44:54
Mike
We have a potential out this year.
00:44:56
Ben
Four years, four years, $50 million.
00:44:58
Mike
We have a potential out this year.
00:45:04
Trio of Positivity
So he's two years left because he signed it two years ago.
00:45:04
Mike
We're looking at a 32, 3.2 million dead cap, 3.2 million dead cap.
00:45:06
Trio of Positivity
so he's two years left. Yeah, he has two years left.
00:45:09
Mike
three point two million dead cap That's nothing. He's gone.
00:45:13
Ben
He's not gone. You're such a moron.
00:45:15
Mike
You're talking a cap hit.
00:45:16
Ben
Yeah,
00:45:16
Trio of Positivity
Okay, you say that though, Ben.
00:45:16
Mike
You're going to save... Oh my god.
00:45:17
Trio of Positivity
He has two years left though. Can we agree?
00:45:19
Mike
You're going to save $8 million.
00:45:20
Ben
yeah yeah, yeah. You're right. it is It is two years now.
00:45:21
Trio of Positivity
has years. but
00:45:22
Ben
Yeah, yeah,
00:45:22
Trio of Positivity
yeah Okay, so here's here's my thing.
00:45:23
Mike
You're going to save $8 million dollars if you cut him.
00:45:25
Trio of Positivity
This season, i'm not um'm I'm going to end it with this.
00:45:26
Mike
He's as good as gone.
00:45:28
Trio of Positivity
This season, he had four targets, one reception against Minnesota, two targets two receptions against Detroit, one target, one reception against Dallas, nine targets, three completions with Vegas.
00:45:40
Trio of Positivity
Those don't sound great to me. That's all I'm saying.
00:45:42
Ben
They're not all catchable either, Chris.
00:45:42
Mike
I...
00:45:43
Ben
We just got over this. and The sideline pass wasn't a catchable ball.
00:45:45
Trio of Positivity
No, you're right. No, no, no.
00:45:47
Ben
So don't...
00:45:47
Trio of Positivity
you're You're right. But the you're using percentage.
00:45:48
Mike
I'm going to be honest.
00:45:50
Trio of Positivity
You're using percentage in saying that his completions are looking good. The only complete...
00:45:54
Mike
See, I'm kind of in the middle here.
00:45:55
Trio of Positivity
you
00:45:56
Mike
I'm kind of in the middle here. I don't agree with Chris that you're judging his performance on four games because I do think he's a pretty solid receiving tight end.
00:46:06
Trio of Positivity
I agree.
00:46:06
Mike
He has been his whole career.
00:46:07
Trio of Positivity
Yes, I agree with that.
00:46:08
Mike
But I am seeing what this regime is doing under Ben Johnson, and that's where I think that he's not going to be here long term.
00:46:16
Trio of Positivity
I love commit.
00:46:16
Mike
Because I don't think...
00:46:17
Trio of Positivity
I love commit. I honestly have praised him. And every time we have a shit game, I always tell Miller and boopin where's commit. Every time I've always asked where's commit.
00:46:28
Trio of Positivity
And we're at the point where now we're saying, Oh, here's commit. But any other person can see a three of nine targets. And yeah, sure. It's some of the passes were bad. I, and I agree with you that on that too.
00:46:39
Trio of Positivity
But then when you start looking at the numbers and you're like, well, Loveland is there. Like it it's, it's,
00:46:45
Ben
He's hurt. He's always fucking hurt.
00:46:47
Mike
I mean, Ben's right. he He's unproven and he's hurt, but there's a lot more ah more games this year.
00:46:48
Trio of Positivity
You're right.
00:46:53
Trio of Positivity
Yep. Miller, what else you want to go into here? All
00:46:57
Mike
ah Defense. Let's drive into the defense, baby. The Bears secondary stepped up.
00:47:00
Trio of Positivity
right. Go for it.
00:47:02
Mike
We had four turnovers by the defense, two by Kevin Byard, who is turning into quite the leader of this team on the defensive side, and one by Tyreek Stevenson, who has played out of his mind these last two games. So props to them.
00:47:18
Mike
And then... um we And then outside of that was just the normal shit that we talk about every week with this team.
00:47:28
Trio of Positivity
Which is.
00:47:28
Mike
The fact that we have no ability to stop the run and we have no pressure on the quarterback. Because let's be real, those interceptions that Geno Smith threw were not ah due to pressure.
00:47:40
Ben
no they were not.
00:47:41
Trio of Positivity
No, they were not. But what also.
00:47:42
Mike
think he was sitting in the pocket for the whole fucking time.
00:47:45
Ben
Yeah.
00:47:45
Trio of Positivity
i I hate beating the dead horse, you know how I am, but I feel like every time we see a touchdown scored on the Bears is because someone can't do a tackle. I.
00:47:55
Mike
And normally you're full of shit, but this week you're right. They missed several, several tackles on Ashton Gentry that should have been done, but it is Ashton Gentry.
00:47:59
Trio of Positivity
This week was...
00:48:04
Trio of Positivity
Now, granted, Jens, he's a great player.
00:48:05
Mike
So.
00:48:05
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, he is a great player. I get that. But... I don't know, man. that that you're you' You titled this week right. It's a fucking rollercoaster. It's weird.
00:48:16
Ben
The problem problem is once we start playing good teams, the lack of QB pressure is going to be a huge issue because we don't have a second corner.
00:48:16
Trio of Positivity
Um...
00:48:26
Ben
Who are we playing? like I think his name is Wright. like We don't have a second quarter.
00:48:29
Mike
Yeah, right I think so, yeah. yeah
00:48:31
Ben
like We're fucked on good teams. We've been playing two bad teams back-to-back and got two lucky wins. like we We are not going to be that lucky if we start playing the Lions, the Packers, any other good, competent passing offensive team.
00:48:45
Mike
I don't want to get too far ahead of myself, but this isn't really in the agenda, but have you looked at the Bears' schedule?
00:48:51
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, we did a whole pick them.
00:48:52
Ben
There's some winnable games, man.
00:48:54
Mike
Because... Their next few games, their next five games are probably winnable, winnable based on the current situation with those teams. You're talking about the commanders who you don't even know if Jane Daniels going to play.
00:49:09
Mike
They just got run up by who did they get run up by Atlanta? I think.
00:49:14
Ben
Yep. Yep.
00:49:15
Mike
You're talking about the Saints. and You're talking about the Ravens. You don't even know if Lamar is going to be there. Their defense is in shambles right now. You're talking about the Bengals. They don't have Burrow. They're getting destroyed by Denver right now.
00:49:27
Mike
and You're talking about the Giants. It's five games. The next five games, all winnable. But, I mean...
00:49:33
Trio of Positivity
Here's the thing. We don't, we don't travel well so that, you know, the Ravens and Bengals away games. Uh, so as the commanders, but I, I see where you're going into this conversation.
00:49:44
Trio of Positivity
Uh, as it stands right now, the NFC North, there is no team under 500. um
00:49:49
Mike
I don't know that the NFC North said good as we thought it was.
00:49:52
Trio of Positivity
and that's That's what I was going to say. i think as the year goes on, though, I think Detroit and Green Bay will get better. Minnesota, for me, is still, given the injuries, I'm not 100% sure.
00:50:01
Mike
Yeah, I.
00:50:04
Trio of Positivity
um But I think this is going to be another...
00:50:05
Mike
Total tangent.
00:50:06
Trio of Positivity
i think it's going to be a ah very ah ah very... Not physical. It's going to be complicated in the NFC North. um
00:50:14
Mike
It's going be competitive for sure.
00:50:15
Trio of Positivity
It's for sure.
00:50:15
Mike
Okay. Getting back on track. We have never done this on the agenda, but this week we did it special fucking teams. It probably should have been highlighted in fucking purple ink because it was so perfect.
00:50:29
Mike
Even, I mean, everything, the punter, I think we had a punt down on like the two yard line, but
00:50:36
Ben
Nobody touched it. It just died on the two.
00:50:38
Trio of Positivity
It died.
00:50:39
Ben
That was so pretty.
00:50:39
Trio of Positivity
It was beautiful.
00:50:39
Mike
Just died at the two. The block to win the game. And Cairo Santos finally stepped up. Four for four on field goals. 43-46. And he even had two 50-yarders.
00:50:54
Mike
Do we feel a little bit better about Cairo?
00:50:57
Ben
I love Cairo.
00:50:57
Trio of Positivity
I do. I do. ah Funny enough, I mentioned it in the group chat, but I don't think anyone understood what I was trying to say.
00:51:00
Mike
Yeah.
00:51:04
Trio of Positivity
ah Growing up, I used to remember when someone would kick like a 44 yard or 45 yard. We're like, oh my God, that's so far. And now it's like a norm.
00:51:12
Mike
i I ignored you because that was stupid. No one did that.
00:51:15
Ben
It was stupid.
00:51:15
Trio of Positivity
that no No, it wasn't.
00:51:15
Ben
i don't remember that at all.
00:51:17
Trio of Positivity
Robbie Gold at one point couldn't hit over 50 yarders and now it's a norm. So let's let's calm down, okay? Yeah.
00:51:22
Mike
I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true at all.
00:51:25
Trio of Positivity
You can look it up.
00:51:25
Ben
a
00:51:26
Trio of Positivity
I think he was the most ineffective 50-yarder.
00:51:29
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:30
Trio of Positivity
I think that was one point his thing.
00:51:30
Ben
yeah No.
00:51:33
Mike
He's like the most accurate kicker in NFL history.
00:51:33
Trio of Positivity
Hold on.
00:51:34
Ben
No.
00:51:34
Trio of Positivity
Hold on.
00:51:35
Ben
Yeah, he's in the top five for sure.
00:51:36
Trio of Positivity
Hold on. Robbie Gold over 50 yard kicks.
00:51:39
Ben
Good lord, Curtis.
00:51:40
Mike
Oh, God.
00:51:44
Trio of Positivity
Let me see.
00:51:48
Mike
I don't even need to bother. But bottom line is the special teams really performed well. I got a win in one of my fantasy leagues. Thank you, Bo Nix.
00:51:57
Trio of Positivity
Oh, yeah. He's 70%.
00:51:58
Mike
Over 50?
00:51:58
Trio of Positivity
So, yeah, he was 36 out of 51. Not that great. There you go enjoy
00:52:03
Mike
Over 50?
00:52:03
Trio of Positivity
Enjoy. 70%. Yeah.
00:52:03
Mike
That's really good.
00:52:04
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:52:06
Ben
That is good, dude.
00:52:07
Trio of Positivity
No, it's not. No, it is not. 80
00:52:10
Ben
Oh, Chris. Okay, you're going to... Can we mute him?
00:52:12
Trio of Positivity
and over.
00:52:13
Ben
Jesus Christ.
00:52:13
Trio of Positivity
80 and over, buddy.
00:52:16
Mike
Okay, not every kicker in the world is Brandon Audrey, okay?
00:52:20
Trio of Positivity
Well, but yes, special teams won the game.
00:52:21
Mike
Calm down. um Special teams did really good, won the game for sure for the Chicago Bears.
00:52:25
Ben
Dip.
00:52:28
Mike
It was all three levels did phenomenal offense, defense, and special teams all contributed in their own way. Like I talked at the beginning, the resiliency from this team, it started shitty,
00:52:39
Mike
every The offense was slow. The defense kept us in the game with the turnovers. Special teams finished it off. And it was just like, it's just one of those wins that you just don't see if you're a Chicago Bears fan.
00:52:51
Mike
and We haven't seen it in quite a few years. So it's nice to nice to see it this week, that's for sure.
00:52:54
Trio of Positivity
I have a have a point though. the
00:52:57
Mike
Go ahead.
00:52:58
Trio of Positivity
The defense, even though they got us in good positions, it did turn our red zone numbers down. so It's a glass half full kind of thing.
00:53:05
Mike
What? What are you talking about?
00:53:08
Ben
All right, Ben Johnson's halftime comments.
00:53:11
Trio of Positivity
Wow, you guys really don't seem to
00:53:12
Mike
Oh, you have the agenda up too? I feel so special.
00:53:14
Ben
Of course I do. i
00:53:15
Mike
Oh my god.
00:53:15
Ben
I actually read it. i actually read it.
00:53:17
Trio of Positivity
I don't know why we're talking about this now.
00:53:18
Mike
did and Did you... It's
00:53:19
Trio of Positivity
We should have gone into the positivity score and then into everything else. But yeah, go ahead.
00:53:23
Mike
still part of the game. Did you guys hear this?
00:53:26
Ben
Yeah, i I wanted to just throw my remote at the TV.
00:53:27
Trio of Positivity
Yes.
00:53:28
Mike
Yeah.
00:53:29
Ben
I hated it
00:53:31
Mike
oh Oh, because this has gone basically viral. and It was all over my twitter Twitter feed today.
00:53:34
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:53:36
Mike
So for those of you that may not have heard it, basically the reporter at halftime came to interview Ben Johnson. And the response that Ben Johnson gave was considered insulting from some people. He intimidated her.
00:53:54
Mike
Multiple views on this. But about eventually... Essentially what the conversation started off as a reporter ah ah asked Ben Johnson, your offense has struggled to take advantage of the takeaways.
00:54:07
Mike
And Ben Johnson was like, they haven't done anything. And the reporter's like, what what what did you tell them at halftime? Ben Johnson said, it wasn't our brand of football capable of a lot more. We're hitting the reset button here and come back to establish our identity.
00:54:23
Mike
The reporter then goes, what? If you listen to it, it's pretty bad. She gives like a snarky snarky tone. Do you need to change what you're doing? And Ben Johnson's like, I don't know. Do you think so?
00:54:36
Mike
And then before she can respond, he goes, we'll be just fine.
00:54:41
Trio of Positivity
I don't know if that's what...
00:54:43
Mike
No.
00:54:43
Trio of Positivity
I don't know if that's the exact wording that she used, but...
00:54:43
Ben
Yeah.
00:54:46
Mike
Oh, it was the end.
00:54:46
Ben
Oh, it was the exact wording.
00:54:47
Mike
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
00:54:48
Ben
And she was such a bitch about it.
00:54:48
Trio of Positivity
I... there
00:54:50
Ben
Like, I was so mad about that interview. They gotta stop doing these. She's, like... Do you think you need to change because you didn't score points? Oh, shit, Sherlock. Of course they're going to change something.
00:55:02
Ben
Jesus Christ.
00:55:03
Trio of Positivity
So as the person that's taking journalism here, um funny enough, the only reason I know about this is because we actually had a 20 minute discussion on this.
00:55:15
Mike
Oh, yeah, you. Chris, take us to school, baby.
00:55:18
Ben
Give us the deets, baby.
00:55:18
Trio of Positivity
So. So. I pointed this out. My teacher didn't realize this. We watched the replay, but we I pointed this out right before the interview starts.
00:55:29
Trio of Positivity
You can tell. he did not want to talk. He did not want to have any sort of conversations with anyone. So right as she's talking, he goes, yep, yep, yep.
00:55:40
Trio of Positivity
Like he's already in that mode. That's not a good sign. The reason that's not a good sign is because most coaches, they know they're gonna have to do some kind of an interview either before or after halftime.
00:55:53
Trio of Positivity
So what my teacher said is, this is Ben Johnson probably getting caught off guard not knowing that this was going to happen. Because when he's already out, he's already in the different mode. You can tell he's not in a in a I'm ready to take questions mode.
00:56:12
Trio of Positivity
And sure enough, she actually talked to your favorite radio host, Miller, today. She actually had an interview ah from 670 Score.
00:56:18
Mike
Wait, who's my favorite radio host? I don't listen to 670 as much as I listen to ESPN.
00:56:23
Trio of Positivity
or whoever you listen to, she actually gave, she actually gave, um an honest answer.
00:56:26
Ben
you
00:56:30
Trio of Positivity
And she's like, listen, I thought I knew him. We had a pre-production meeting and he's joking around. Caleb came in and he started making fun of Caleb for certain things about how he was showing up. So that's what I felt his demeanor was.
00:56:44
Trio of Positivity
So I felt that he was going to come back at me in a fun, like, manner, but I'm wrong. So she took ownership of how she phrased the question.
00:56:57
Trio of Positivity
In a journalistic point, you have you have to remove bias from any question that you ask if you're doing any reporting for an outlet. That is very hard to do because when you're doing that sideline review, you're not really doing journalism. You're doing entertainment.
00:57:13
Trio of Positivity
You're doing something that's going to help people stay on television. Did she ask the question wrong? You bet your fucking ass she asked it wrong. Will she probably ask it again in a different scenario with a different coach?
00:57:26
Trio of Positivity
Probably.
00:57:27
Ben
we got to read You got to read the room a little bit too.
00:57:27
Trio of Positivity
But that's just...
00:57:27
Mike
a
00:57:29
Ben
He's not giving you anything.
00:57:30
Trio of Positivity
But here's the thing.
00:57:31
Ben
Just switch up your question.
00:57:31
Trio of Positivity
He's not getting... You're right. you're You're right on that part, but here's the thing.
00:57:33
Mike
I don't question his calling. That's basically what she did.
00:57:35
Trio of Positivity
But here's...
00:57:36
Ben
yeah Exactly.
00:57:36
Mike
She questioned his play calling and the coaching.
00:57:36
Trio of Positivity
like
00:57:37
Ben
Exactly.
00:57:38
Trio of Positivity
But here's the thing.
00:57:39
Mike
I
00:57:39
Trio of Positivity
She's and and i we saw this. She's questioned Bill Belichick. She's questioned other coaches.
00:57:44
Mike
ah can give a shit who she questioned.
00:57:45
Trio of Positivity
Hold on. No, no, no, you no. no, no. See, you can't do that. You can't just say, oh, well, I don't care what she's done with other coaches. I care about what she did with Ben Johnson. This is Ben Johnson's first year as a head coach. Last year, he didn't have to do these kind of interviews.
00:57:56
Trio of Positivity
So it's on him to also be aware that this is going to be a thing that has to happen. If you're having a bad game, guess what? You're going to have a microphone brought to your face before halftime or after halftime.
00:58:08
Trio of Positivity
That's a norm. That's a norm in the NFL.
00:58:11
Mike
I agree with you.
00:58:12
Ben
Yeah.
00:58:12
Mike
i just don't agree with the backlash that, I mean, it's kind of 50-50. I'm going to be honest.
00:58:16
Trio of Positivity
and fifty He took ownership, too.
00:58:17
Mike
Some people say that, so yeah, some people are like, he's fine.
00:58:18
Trio of Positivity
He took ownership at...
00:58:20
Mike
Other people are saying he's intimidating.
00:58:22
Trio of Positivity
She...
00:58:22
Mike
Like, if you're going to question somebody whose career has been in the sport, if you're going to question their decision-making, their coaching, you should expect to get some sort of harsh defensive answer.
00:58:32
Trio of Positivity
That's where...
00:58:32
Ben
Defense defensive answer.
00:58:34
Trio of Positivity
You're going to get defensive. you're a and She should have changed the question instead of saying, because here's the thing. He literally sets her up for a great follow-up question. It wasn't our brand of football.
00:58:46
Trio of Positivity
We're capable of more. She easily could have said, so what's your, what is your brand of football?
00:58:52
Ben
Right, exactly.
00:58:52
Trio of Positivity
That right there is a fantastic follow because that you're going off of what he answered.
00:58:58
Ben
But you're also, you got to read him.
00:58:58
Trio of Positivity
Now.
00:58:59
Ben
Like she's saying that he was goofing around in the, in the pre-production, but
00:59:00
Trio of Positivity
Right. That's, In the pre-production. Yeah.
Sideline Reporter Questions and Coach Reactions
00:59:04
Ben
she saw he was pissed off.
00:59:04
Trio of Positivity
he He was pissed off.
00:59:06
Ben
If he was up, if he was up 30, go ahead and joke around with them. He's down at halftime to a team. He should be kicking their shit out of. And you're going to fuck around with his play calling.
00:59:17
Ben
Like, give me a break, dude.
00:59:17
Trio of Positivity
The thing is that, but here's the thing, and and you can look it up with other other side.
00:59:19
Mike
yeah
00:59:22
Trio of Positivity
I'm talking sideline reporter for entertainment. That it has to be branded a certain way because if you look at the questions that she asked Caleb Williams after the game was over, she actually used some of the stuff that he said.
00:59:37
Trio of Positivity
So you can clearly see that there is some kind of like moving pieces when it comes to the sideline reporting stuff.
00:59:42
Ben
Yeah, but after the game when the emotions are starting to dwindle, you're talking about getting fired up at the halftime to go in and try to get a win out of what's currently a loss. yeah It's not the same scenario as after a win when Caleb pulled off a victory.
00:59:57
Trio of Positivity
Right.
00:59:57
Ben
Those are two different mindsets.
00:59:58
Trio of Positivity
Right. But what I'm saying, though, is for Ben Johnson to kind of just go at it like that, I honestly think he was unaware that he was going to get questioned.
Ben Johnson's Awareness of Interview Questions
01:00:08
Trio of Positivity
But as an NFL head coach, you're going to get questioned like you. You should have known that was going to happen.
01:00:15
Trio of Positivity
So I don't agree.
01:00:15
Mike
i don't I don't agree with you.
01:00:16
Trio of Positivity
i don't.
01:00:16
Ben
ah don't have I don't have a problem with how he answered it.
01:00:16
Trio of Positivity
ah Hold on.
01:00:17
Mike
i don't think...
01:00:19
Ben
I don't have a problem at all.
01:00:19
Trio of Positivity
I don't know. No one has a problem with it. Like even she doesn't have a problem with how he answered it. Even she said, I didn't realize like he was a different.
01:00:26
Mike
Well, it's a national story, so people have some people have a problem with it.
01:00:28
Trio of Positivity
It's if you, if you literally watch her interview, it's on YouTube somewhere. Find it.
01:00:33
Mike
mean, she doesn't have a problem with it.
01:00:33
Trio of Positivity
You,
01:00:34
Mike
It's fine, but you know other people do.
01:00:35
Trio of Positivity
she She even says I probably could have worded it different.
01:00:35
Ben
Right, right.
01:00:37
Trio of Positivity
So like it's it's a learning thing. My thing with Ben Johnson is that you could be down 50 at halftime. You could be down 60. You could be up 50. You could be up 60.
01:00:50
Trio of Positivity
They're going to talk to you. So just know that this is going to happen again. So this is
Questioning NFL Coaches: Comparisons and Appropriateness
01:00:55
Ben
yeah this is a non-story this is stupid I what I'm saying is it shouldn't be it's such a non like I don't give a fuck about the on the field reporter I don't care at it we're at an hour
01:00:55
Trio of Positivity
just a learning thing.
01:00:56
Trio of Positivity
It's a learning thing.
01:00:57
Mike
I don't. i don't Yeah, I don't. Yeah, whatever. Let's move on. um it It was a story. Bitch. Okay. Oh, yeah.
01:01:08
Trio of Positivity
I think if he just said... here's the thing Here's the thing, though. If he says that and she goes... like Here's the thing how you can change it, too.
01:01:16
Mike
Oh, was moving on.
01:01:16
Trio of Positivity
and The only reason... no And this is the reason I love this question, because we... Yeah, here's the thing. This is the reason why I love this question. I didn't realize it was in the agenda and I got very excited. I can answer this question and I can show you how he could have come out even better.
01:01:31
Trio of Positivity
So he said, i quote, I don't know. You think so? He could have just gone. i don't know. Do you think so? All right. I'll see you later. It's the same exact thing.
01:01:40
Mike
but you You don't question somebody at work. You don't question somebody.
01:01:43
Trio of Positivity
Yes, you do. You are in the NFL. How many head coaches and positions are there?
01:01:48
Mike
Not from that role. Not from that role.
01:01:50
Trio of Positivity
No, see,
Positivity Scores and NFL Team Performances
01:01:51
Trio of Positivity
you can't.
01:01:51
Mike
I'm sorry.
01:01:51
Trio of Positivity
So wait, so we can do that with Andy Reid. We can do that with Bell Belichick.
01:01:56
Mike
No.
01:01:56
Trio of Positivity
We can do that with the...
01:01:57
Ben
Those guys aren't going to give you shit either.
01:01:57
Trio of Positivity
It's...
01:01:59
Ben
They're going to give you snarky, sarcastic answers too. Don't give me this protective bullshit.
01:02:03
Trio of Positivity
No, what I'm saying, though...
01:02:03
Ben
Like, he he is an intense coach. He answered in an intense way, as he should have. She asked a dumb question. He gave a dumb answer. It's fine. Move along.
01:02:14
Trio of Positivity
That's how it should have ended right there. It's a dumb question.
01:02:16
Mike
Yeah.
01:02:17
Trio of Positivity
It was a dumb answer. But to say that you shouldn't.
01:02:18
Mike
We were there and you wanted to continue.
01:02:20
Trio of Positivity
but No, no, no. But to say that you don't ask these questions, you could have asked it a different way and still gotten the job done. You still have to ask the question.
01:02:29
Mike
You phrase it differently. You know don't ask that one.
01:02:31
Trio of Positivity
Exactly.
01:02:31
Ben
move move Move along, move along, move along.
01:02:31
Trio of Positivity
like
01:02:33
Mike
Okay, let's jump into the positivity score.
01:02:33
Ben
Next.
01:02:36
Mike
Who wants to start? I have to figure out mine.
01:02:38
Trio of Positivity
Miller, you go because you well know you know you should already have your number already.
01:02:39
Mike
No, I don't know what mine is. This isn't accurate.
01:02:42
Trio of Positivity
You're so unprepared. Come on.
01:02:45
Mike
Uh-huh. so I did this whole fucking agenda, you jackass.
01:02:49
Trio of Positivity
And i already have my positivity score because I'm a professional.
01:02:51
Ben
Then you start. Then you start. You start it up.
01:02:53
Mike
Positivity score at a six. I'm feeling the vibes, baby. The schedule coming up is weak.
01:02:59
Trio of Positivity
Jesus.
01:02:59
Mike
We have some possibilities of making some rounds, getting some wins here. We were able to get the win in a situation that we haven't in the past.
01:03:11
Mike
Caleb's never experienced a win like this because he only has like seven of them.
01:03:14
Trio of Positivity
That's false.
01:03:16
Mike
But...
01:03:17
Trio of Positivity
That's what going to That's such a horrible comparison.
01:03:19
Mike
But he's always fallen back.
01:03:19
Trio of Positivity
Can I ask a question?
01:03:22
Mike
We've always taken a backseat to situations when we're fought went with when ah when it comes to resiliency. And this was one that pushed us the back.
01:03:29
Trio of Positivity
That's not true because we beat the, we beat the green Bay Packers at their home to end the season. So you're wrong on that. Can you tell me how you got to six?
01:03:35
Mike
That had nothing to do with resiliency.
01:03:36
Trio of Positivity
Can you, can you tell me how you got to six if the bears were three and Caleb was a six last, last week?
01:03:41
Mike
I literally told you that we were a four and a half last week. We got another win. Now I'm at a six.
01:03:47
Trio of Positivity
Right, so what increased? Was it Caleb or the Bears?
01:03:50
Mike
The Bears, 6-6. Why are you questioning me on this? I'm the only one that fucking does that.
01:03:55
Trio of Positivity
this is the worst game that I think I saw on the offensive side, and you're still consistent with six on Caleb?
01:04:00
Mike
It's not the worst game.
01:04:03
Ben
It was bad. ah Offensively, it was bad. I think we had five drives in the first half where we started before the 50, and we only got nine points.
01:04:13
Mike
I agree. And then we ended up scoring 25.
01:04:16
Ben
No, again, the second half, was we were a different team.
01:04:17
Trio of Positivity
Total.
01:04:19
Mike
you settle you can so Okay, how many games last year did we score over 20?
01:04:25
Ben
Not many.
01:04:26
Mike
Not many. like You're acting like we should be scoring 32 points a game.
01:04:28
Trio of Positivity
All right
01:04:30
Mike
like Come on,
01:04:31
Trio of Positivity
We should have.
01:04:31
Ben
You know what? You know what, Chris? I'm sorry. I'm with Miller. im I was at a, what, four last week? I think I'm at a five, five and a half, man.
NFL Injuries and Fantasy Football Impact
01:04:41
Ben
the defense The defense played well enough to keep us in the game.
01:04:41
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
01:04:46
Ben
The offense took a step back, but then did flash a little bit. And then the special teams finally looked good. They actually looked like a competent unit. Finally.
01:04:56
Trio of Positivity
So here's the thing. I agree with you, Ben. I was at a five, but because we blocked the field goal, that's a half point up on my end. I'm at a five and a half.
01:05:04
Mike
So you're giving me shit for sex when you're-
01:05:05
Trio of Positivity
ah
01:05:07
Trio of Positivity
I'm giving you shit when you go four and a half to six. That is such a high jump. That is a horrible high jump.
01:05:13
Ben
And it was not that impressive of a win. I get that we came back in ah in the last drive, but like that's a pretty big jump for for a pretty bad game.
01:05:21
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, and you're and you're saying that the Bears as a whole went three up when the offense did not look great. like
01:05:28
Mike
Bears as a whole. The defense got four turnovers. Special teams did fantastic. Bears is a fucking hole, you dumbass.
01:05:35
Trio of Positivity
So that's two-thirds.
01:05:36
Mike
Yeah.
01:05:36
Trio of Positivity
That's two-thirds. And you're saying you're giving them the equal the equal performance of Caleb?
01:05:41
Ben
I don't know. I don't think he's that far off. I think we're all pretty much on the same boat. Five and a half, six. It's looking up ah finally for the last like five years.
01:05:48
Trio of Positivity
I just wanted to pick on him.
01:05:51
Ben
It's been threes, twos, negative ones. We're finally all right around six. This pretty impressive.
01:05:57
Mike
We're going to get taken this away from us. Jaden Daniels is going to play on Washington. We're going our asses kicked, but it's okay. We have two weeks to that.
01:06:03
Trio of Positivity
All right.
01:06:03
Mike
All right, let's move along to the fantasy.
01:06:04
Trio of Positivity
No, I got it because I got it.
01:06:05
Mike
Oh, what the fuck do you want?
01:06:06
Trio of Positivity
I got it. um I'm hosting.
01:06:07
Mike
I'm out of whiskey.
01:06:08
Trio of Positivity
You got to remember I'm hosting. I do a good job at this.
Fantasy Football Strategies Amidst Injuries
01:06:11
Mike
This is getting rough at this point.
01:06:11
Trio of Positivity
I know. Also, I noticed yeah for anyone that's listening, there was a lot more on the fantasy recap. ah Miller decided to erase probably 30% of what was just in the fantasy recap.
01:06:26
Trio of Positivity
So the only thing I have here is injuries.
01:06:30
Mike
It's because it was last week's.
01:06:30
Trio of Positivity
Malik neighbors again. Why would you cut me off? Thank you.
01:06:35
Mike
You're questioning my agenda when I literally deleted everything from last week.
01:06:40
Trio of Positivity
I love the mute button. All right. So to go on into this fantasy Malik neighbors, which. I feel bad. Terris is ACL.
01:06:52
Trio of Positivity
I saw it on on Red Zone and I'm like, hmm, that one hurts. um
01:06:58
Ben
Tyree kill.
01:06:59
Mike
there we go Yeah, we can add that one.
01:07:00
Trio of Positivity
we we I was going to see if we actually wanted to talk about it. I just want to say, Brian, you fucking asshole. I did not need to see the picture.
01:07:06
Mike
Yeah, you are a fucking asshole.
01:07:08
Trio of Positivity
The picture, you should not ever in a group chat at least put a spoiler or some kind of warning.
01:07:08
Mike
Like, come on, dude.
01:07:12
Ben
ah Oh,
01:07:16
Trio of Positivity
I did not need to see that.
01:07:16
Mike
but
01:07:17
Trio of Positivity
Boys, I apologize for sending 10 straight text messages so that it didn't show up every time I read something.
01:07:22
Ben
that was brutal.
01:07:24
Trio of Positivity
I that was not um that was not there.
01:07:27
Mike
That was bad.
01:07:28
Trio of Positivity
um
01:07:28
Mike
Yep.
01:07:29
Trio of Positivity
Miller, I see that you have first round grades here for two players. You want to talk a little bit about that?
01:07:34
Mike
Yeah, I'm happy to. I can't think of any other major injuries that ah occurred. Brock Purdy did came up. and Apparently he's dropped getting back on the injury report. Apparently he might have a toe. We'll see where that goes for the Niners. Other than that, we didn't really have anything. But let's just point out some performers that over-exceeded.
01:07:54
Mike
Their expectations, and two in particular, finally showed out for their first-round grades in preseason in Ashton Gentry and Drake London. Obviously, we talked about Gentry. He went for over 100 yards. I think he was probably close to 140, and he got, I think, two touchdowns. And on top of that, he had some receiving and a touchdown. So he really finally showed out.
01:08:17
Mike
considering he was drafted in the first round of most fantasy drafts. Other one, Drake London, very similar situation. Finally got the ball from Penix. Penix was finally able to put together a good passing game.
01:08:29
Mike
Over 100 yards, a touchdown for Drake London. So two guys that have really started slow to this year, finally putting up some solid numbers there. And then rookie impacts. This week, the rookie running backs finally showed up.
01:08:43
Mike
O'Marion Hampton had a killer game for the Chargers. think he went for over 100 yards and a touchdown over there. And then, like I mentioned previously, Woody Marks also put a stamp on it.
01:08:55
Mike
So it's interesting to see how some of these guys are showing out. We'll see what happens
Tight End Performances and Fantasy Implications
01:09:00
Mike
with that. Keep an eye on the fantasy. keep Keep in tune. The season's never over.
01:09:05
Mike
Even if you're 0-4, come on, still focus.
01:09:09
Trio of Positivity
No, it's over.
01:09:09
Mike
just we'll We'll get there.
01:09:09
Trio of Positivity
It's over for me.
01:09:10
Mike
We'll get there.
01:09:11
Trio of Positivity
um Can I just give a quick shout out? um Kincaid actually had a decent game, um but it still looks like he's not going to be the main tight end from what I'm reading.
01:09:22
Trio of Positivity
um
01:09:22
Mike
I don't know what you're reading because he's up and up in my books.
01:09:26
Trio of Positivity
No, but apparently he got less. I got to read this whole article, but i I was trying to find his fantasy numbers. I know that he did very well. ah If he was in a PPR league, I think he got a touchdown in four receptions.
01:09:39
Trio of Positivity
So um which Kincaid was.
01:09:41
Mike
He's been a pretty solid 10 tight end this year, like overall.
01:09:44
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. um Another name that I wanted to ask you. Samuel. samuel
01:09:53
Ben
Hmm
01:09:55
Trio of Positivity
Is it time to keep them out of flex?
01:10:01
Ben
Depends if Daniels comes back, doesn't it?
01:10:06
Trio of Positivity
I don't, um I mean, Miller, you're you're usually prepared. What's going on here?
01:10:12
Mike
fucking sam
01:10:15
Ben
Debo
01:10:16
Trio of Positivity
Jesus Christ.
01:10:16
Mike
Oh,
Fantasy Flex Position Debates
01:10:17
Mike
Devo.
01:10:17
Trio of Positivity
Jesus Christ.
01:10:17
Mike
Okay. I thought that's who were talking about, was blanking. He's had a pretty good start to the year. i think a lot of it hinges on, um well, first of all, you don't ever, you you should not take him on a flex because he's their number one weapon right now.
01:10:32
Mike
I mean, it's him and arts because McLaren's out. So he needs to be there regardless. Obviously, Jaden being out is a huge loss. Yeah.
01:10:42
Mike
But yeah, you I mean, you've got to play him.
01:10:44
Trio of Positivity
I love how he says that as he's laughing.
01:10:45
Mike
if
01:10:46
Trio of Positivity
That's horrible.
01:10:46
Mike
I'm just laughing because I didn't know who the fuck you're talking about. I went to Curtis Samuel. I'm like, what the fuck are we talking about this douche for? But I mean, you're going to play him until until McLaren comes back and takes stranglehold on this offense.
01:10:54
Trio of Positivity
um All right. And,
01:10:59
Mike
If he does, you've got to play him because he's put up pretty good numbers. And they're using him in a lot of different ways, just like the Niners did out of the backfield. there He's doing rushes. He's doing the whole nine yards.
01:11:09
Mike
Yeah.
01:11:10
Trio of Positivity
So the reason I bring this up is because there's one name I wanted to hear feedback on. I think I failed horribly with Travis Hunter.
01:11:20
Trio of Positivity
I think that experiment has kind of dwindled. um So at this point, the flex is becoming an option. What's a good flex option if I need to pick one up from waivers?
01:11:31
Mike
you can't You can't answer that without providing some context of waiver opportunities.
01:11:35
Ben
Yeah, yeah, who's who's still out there? i mean, you got some Giants guys, but you got some Giants guys that are going to get some opportunities now that Neighbors is down.
01:11:38
Trio of Positivity
Well, there's usually articles of like...
01:11:44
Ben
You got some guys...
01:11:45
Mike
Wendell Robinson's a big one that might be on the waivers. Woody Marks, like I mentioned earlier, both he seems to be taking a stranglehold of the backfield in Houston.
Running Back Roles and Fantasy Implications
01:11:54
Mike
um we have I'm trying to think of some other names that might be out there.
01:12:01
Ben
Well, who's the rest of the Dolphins receiver core? You got Jalen Waddle is probably already on the team.
01:12:05
Mike
You got Waddle. I mean, i don't... Are you really going to run out of tight end with... um What's his name? The the rapper?
01:12:13
Ben
Waller, waller um two tutties today.
01:12:14
Mike
Waller had two touchdowns today.
01:12:19
Ben
there's There's some guys you can look at, but you're going to have to start looking at some injury replacements for some of these star receivers because they're going to get touches.
01:12:19
Mike
I mean...
01:12:27
Mike
The one thing that I would like to talk about here for a moment is the quote unquote backup running back on a lot of teams with older running backs. And what I'm talking about specifically is what's going on in new Orleans with Alvin Kamara and Kendrick Miller, who Kendrick Miller out touched and outscored him this week.
01:12:48
Mike
Now he hasn't done that past weeks, but it is Alvin Kamara.
01:12:49
Ben
Mm.
01:12:51
Mike
He's getting old. And the other one, I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it guys. Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry has not been good this year.
01:13:01
Mike
And Justice Hill went off.
01:13:02
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. Yeah.
01:13:04
Mike
So I'm not saying give up on Derrick Henry. That's not what I'm saying. But keep an eye out on some of these situations. Like... Are they going to take keep it? or And Nick Chubb, like we mentioned with Woody Marks.
01:13:15
Trio of Positivity
yeah
01:13:16
Mike
like You can see situations where, not as much in Baltimore because they paid Derrick Henry too much, but like you can see situations where these guys behind these older running backs might start to make an imprint, especially when you're talking about teams that are struggling for offense.
01:13:31
Trio of Positivity
I will say this season has been very difficult to manage.
NFL Trades and Team Improvement Speculations
01:13:36
Trio of Positivity
The injuries, I think a lot of people are kind of suffering through the injuries.
01:13:40
Mike
There is a lot of injuries.
01:13:41
Trio of Positivity
There's just, yeah, at it sucks to see.
01:13:44
Mike
We were blessed last year because there wasn't a lot of running back injuries, but this year there seems to be like injuries all over the place and not only fantasy, but impacting fantasy like linemen.
01:13:51
Trio of Positivity
It's and impacting.
01:13:55
Ben
Yep.
01:13:56
Trio of Positivity
I think we're averaging like injuries every day of the, of every game day. Now, like where before you could go a game where there wasn't like people missing games.
01:14:02
Ben
Oh yeah.
01:14:05
Trio of Positivity
You know what i'm saying? Like, obviously people get hurt and then they come out and then come back in.
01:14:06
Ben
yeah
01:14:10
Trio of Positivity
But I think every game day we seem to have some kind of injury that is affecting them a day of having them to miss the following week.
01:14:18
Mike
We're running long, but we're not going to save this part for next week because it'll be irrelevant next week.
01:14:20
Trio of Positivity
Yes, we are. All right. Nope. It won't be.
01:14:23
Mike
It'll be relevant next week.
01:14:24
Trio of Positivity
It won't be.
01:14:24
Mike
Yes, because if they're going to make a move, they're going to make a move right now.
01:14:29
Trio of Positivity
they're not going to make a move
01:14:29
Mike
do you think Do you think the Bears will make a trade to either help their rushing defense or their pass rush?
01:14:37
Trio of Positivity
They won't do it during the buy.
01:14:37
Ben
No.
01:14:38
Trio of Positivity
This is why I said we could have, they won't do it during the buy.
01:14:39
Mike
Or their running game?
01:14:41
Trio of Positivity
This is why i said we could have saved it for next week.
01:14:41
Ben
No. I mean, he he's right.
01:14:43
Mike
There's no point of saving it to next week.
01:14:46
Ben
Now would be the ideal time to to make a move because then you have two weeks to put a a guy into the system.
01:14:49
Trio of Positivity
but don't
01:14:53
Ben
But, no, I don't see him making a move.
Trade Deadline Impact and Player Value Debate
01:14:55
Ben
Like, who are you going to get? Who are you going to go after?
01:14:57
Mike
<unk>s there's There's chatter two twofold. I don't think the Jets are going to pull it right now because they just lost Braylon Allen. He may be out for a while with a knee injury, but Brees Hall was a hot topic.
01:15:08
Ben
I'd love Resale.
01:15:08
Mike
And also and another guy that we just talked about, Alvin Kamara. He's on a losing team.
01:15:12
Ben
No.
01:15:13
Mike
Why not get rid of him?
01:15:15
Ben
no
01:15:15
Mike
Hey, both of those are possibilities. I don't know if Pulse is going to pull the trigger. I personally don't want him to pull the trigger, but um it'll do.
01:15:23
Trio of Positivity
here's Here's my thing. I don't think right now there is a running back that can come into this setup with our offensive line and be productive.
01:15:34
Trio of Positivity
I don't think...
01:15:34
Ben
First of all, that's wrong. The offensive line isn't the running game problem. It's DeAndre Swift is the problem.
01:15:40
Trio of Positivity
No, I don't agree with that 100%.
01:15:41
Ben
If we had Brees Hall on this offense, hell yeah. Oh, hell yeah. But I think right now Brees Hall would be too expensive to get. But I would absolutely take Brees Hall every day and three times on Sunday.
01:15:54
Mike
The thing with Brees Hall is you're going to pay him a contract because he's going in the contract year.
01:15:57
Ben
Well, right.
01:15:58
Mike
This is last year.
01:15:59
Ben
That's right.
01:15:59
Trio of Positivity
i don't I don't know how you guys can say
01:16:00
Ben
Well, there you go. Trade him, commit. Trade him, commit. And I'll take Brie Soff, commit straight up.
01:16:06
Mike
I would too.
01:16:06
Trio of Positivity
Jesus. It's literally spent the whole time talking about how he's not going to get moved and how he wants to move him.
01:16:12
Ben
I'd move him for Brie Soff.
01:16:12
Trio of Positivity
um
01:16:13
Mike
He loves he's a he's a fucking Iowa State guy.
01:16:14
Trio of Positivity
Here's
01:16:15
Ben
He's an Iowa State guy, bro. I'll take him all day long.
01:16:17
Trio of Positivity
here's here's Here's my thing, and then we'll end it on this note. I'm more of a guy that I prefer to see trades happening near the trade deadline because that's when you can kind of see if you get better value on your and your trade.
01:16:30
Trio of Positivity
People are either more desperate to get them out or people are willing to pay more however you want to see it. I always feel like that seems to happen during the trade deadline.
01:16:37
Ben
You have a chance to impact your team sooner now.
01:16:37
Trio of Positivity
That's
01:16:40
Ben
Like why wait to the trade deadline when you have less games to potentially win and make your team better? Get it better now.
01:16:45
Trio of Positivity
because i think Because I think even with a bye week, you're still working on things. like ah Me personally, i still don't have full confidence in this offensive line.
01:16:58
Ben
What? When it's healthy, when it's healthy, it's been really, really good.
01:17:00
Mike
it's been yeah It's been pretty solid. And Chris, I understand your point, but the one thing you're not understanding of this entire situation is you're talking about the incompetent Ryan Poles, and he's probably just going to send anybody a second-round pick and get a running back regardless of how shitty he is.
01:17:18
Trio of Positivity
so just So just a random question then. If it was commit and, say, a third rounder for Hall, you guys would be okay with that?
01:17:26
Ben
I'd do it.
01:17:27
Mike
No, I would not be okay with it.
01:17:29
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
01:17:29
Mike
I'm going to be honest.
01:17:29
Trio of Positivity
And then if it's a trade deadline and if it was a straight-up commit for Bryce Hall, would you do it?
01:17:34
Ben
Brees Hall.
01:17:34
Mike
It's a brace call.
01:17:35
Trio of Positivity
Bryce Hall, whatever.
01:17:35
Ben
And yes, yes, I'd do it.
01:17:36
Mike
What the fuck?
01:17:38
Trio of Positivity
that's
01:17:38
Mike
Okay.
01:17:39
Trio of Positivity
What I'm saying is the value changes when you're closer to...
01:17:40
Mike
Would you trade Cole Kabbat first for Christian McCafferty?
01:17:46
Ben
Gafferty.
01:17:47
Mike
What the fuck is that question?
01:17:47
Trio of Positivity
McCafferty.
01:17:49
Mike
Is that?
01:17:49
Trio of Positivity
Listen, I'm just saying I don't see the value right now.
01:17:52
Mike
You're just going drop a third round pick? That's...
01:17:55
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, that's normally how they always operate. If you read how teams talk during the season when it's getting close to the trade deadline, but like if you look at what happened with Parsons, when you look at what happened with Parsons, hold on, stop, stop, stop, stop.
01:18:06
Mike
when you're talking When you're talking about shitty players...
01:18:10
Trio of Positivity
When you look at what happened with Parsons, they they already had a deal in place. And then it wasn't until they kind of kept waiting, kept waiting, and then Green Bay was like, we'll add this.
01:18:21
Trio of Positivity
And that's when it was gone. You can ask anyone that was reviewing that trade. ah As soon as Jones heard what he wanted to hear, they did it. So that's what I'm saying. That that trade with Parsons got done like this as soon as Jones heard what he wanted to hear.
01:18:37
Ben
No shit.
01:18:37
Trio of Positivity
When we get...
01:18:38
Mike
you
01:18:38
Ben
That's how all trades work.
01:18:40
Trio of Positivity
Right, but that's when you...
01:18:40
Mike
you're not going to get a come.
01:18:41
Trio of Positivity
That was done before the season started.
01:18:43
Mike
No one, no one in a situation where you're going to be tanking because they're 0 and 4 at this point.
01:18:47
Trio of Positivity
Knowing...
01:18:50
Mike
You're not going to be looking for pieces like Cole Komet, who's going to
01:18:53
Ben
Mine was, it was,