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Kings of the NFC! | Ep 18 Season 3 | Trio of Positivity #chicagobears image

Kings of the NFC! | Ep 18 Season 3 | Trio of Positivity #chicagobears

S3 E18 · Trio of Positivity Podcast
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🏈 Trio of Positivity Podcast – Episode 61: The Chicago Bears are the Kings of the NFC! In this episode of the Trio of Positivity podcast, the hosts discuss the Chicago Bears' victory over the Eagles, review comments from YouTube, and analyze Week 13 of the NFL. They highlight key players, share their positivity scores, and preview the upcoming game against the Packers.  🎙 About Trio of Positivity Podcast Welcome to the Trio of Positivity Podcast, a Chicago Bears podcast that sounds like your group chat, but with more "positivity." We mix honest fan talk, some analysis, and just enough chaos to keep things fun.   Finding Positivity in Chicago Sports Chaos    Drop your thoughts in the comments — we read them all.   👍 Like, 🔔 Subscribe, and 📢 Share to help grow this POSITIVE community!    🔗 Follow & Subscribe   🐦 Twitter / X → ThePositiveTrio   🎧 Spotify → Trio of Positivity Podcast   🍎 Apple Podcasts → Trio Of Positivity Podcast   📺 YouTube →  @TrioofPositivityPodcast     🌐 Website → www.trioofpositivity.com  Chapters  00:00 Introduction to the Trio of Positivity 01:10 Recapping Week 13 in the NFL 03:13 YouTube Comments and Fan Reactions 06:37 Last weeks predictions 08:00 Week 13 NFL Thoughts 10:36 Black Friday Game Future Thoughts 12:52 Bears VS Eagles Recap Start 14:24 Miller's Glazing Minute 15:31 Reviewing Caleb's Performance 18:22 Bhupen's Balls 21:29 Offensive Struggles Or Just Winning? 27:45 Defensive Dominance: Analyzing the Bears' Performance 31:38 Ben Johnson's Impact: The Locker Room Speech 33:07 Offensive Line Evaluation: Strengths and Weaknesses 36:54 Positivity Scores 39:09 Eagles 2 PT Conversion Attempt 40:03 Bears VS Packers Preview 40:33 Bears Keys to Victory 42:37 Packers Keys to Victory 45:11 Predictions for the Bears vs. Packers Showdown 51:09 What do you mean when you say control their own destiny? 52:22 Fantasy Football Updates 01:03:02 Ending of episode. Like and subscribe!

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Introduction and Positivity Mission

00:00:12
Speaker
Hello, hello, hello. Thank guys for joining us. We are the trio of positivity. I am joined by my lovely co-host Miller and Boop and I am your third co-host Christian.
00:00:26
Speaker
We are a Chicago Bears podcast hoping to bring you positivity into your lives. But in typical Chicago fashion, it can be hard to find. Used to be our slogan.
00:00:38
Speaker
But as a recording on a Sunday. The Chicago Bears are first in the NFC. Did not think this would be possible.

Episode Agenda Overview

00:00:48
Speaker
But before we get into that,
00:00:51
Speaker
We're going to talk about what we're going to do. We're going to recap our comments that were posted on YouTube. We're going to talk about week 13 in the NFL. We are then going to get to the best part of the segment, which is recapping Bears versus Eagles.
00:01:03
Speaker
Get into our positivity scores. And then we look forward to our rivalry with the Packers Lambeau Field.

Thanksgiving and Social Media

00:01:10
Speaker
Give our predictions and we end the episode with a fantasy recap. Boys, how was your weekend? Happy Thanksgiving.
00:01:17
Speaker
What you guys do? Happy Thanksgiving. Beautiful weekend, family, food, festivities. Everything was great. Bears winning except the stupid snow that's just killing us right now.
00:01:30
Speaker
What a beautiful few days. Get to spend it with family, watch some football. Oh, great. And snow, get to play in the snow, build a snowman. Do you want to build a snowman?
00:01:42
Speaker
Did you build a few? I tried. The boys didn't let me know. They already they tore it down.
00:01:50
Speaker
All right. You can find us on Facebook, Trio Positivity Podcast, on Twitter, X, at The Positive Trio. On YouTube, it's at Trio Positivity Podcast. and TikTok!
00:02:05
Speaker
Tick Tock, Tick Tock, Tick Tock. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Do we have any likes or any follows? What do you think? If you were to look us up on Tick Tock right now, what do you think we got? Well, I don't have it. so I can't. But I would say no, because that's what we want to do. Please, nobody like, comment, subscribe on Tick Tock. We do not want any engagement.
00:02:26
Speaker
Miller, what do you think? I'm going to say we got three views this time. Oh my God. You know what's crazy? If that we actually had three views, Miller would be right. We are still at zero with zero likes and follows. It's like we wanted. Just like we wanted. We got them right where we want them. That is true. I think Boopin's microphone is acting up again, but I think we should be okay.
00:02:49
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um We're going to keep on trucking, though. We're going to start with the comment recaps on YouTube. There's some good ones. There's some questionable ones.
00:03:01
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um These are coming off of two shorts that we did. One, which was the Bears looking at getting first place in the NFC if it was a possibility.
00:03:13
Speaker
Well, now we know that it is a possibility because it actually happened.

Fan Reactions and Predictions

00:03:18
Speaker
We're going to start with at 1900RJeff, who had a lot of ah crying face emojis, laughing crying face emojis, and said, Delusional much? You can barely beat a last place schedule. 50 burger by the division the by the real division champs, plus GB twice. Philly rolls, you good lord.
00:03:42
Speaker
Phillies did not roll us. Some might even say we rolled Philly. and We ate them after that. Yeah, pretty much did. I mean, that was kind of questionable. In the same video at Jimp711, wrote the one seed.
00:04:00
Speaker
Whatever it is you are smoking, please stop. If they win two more games, it will be surprising. I will say, I think when we were looking at this at this Eagles game and we were looking at the rest of the schedule, I kind of was thinking between two and four wins.
00:04:16
Speaker
That's gone. that That's already, I'm already past that point. ah What the fuck does that mean? Are you at like six wins? We have five games. We're going six at all, baby.
00:04:28
Speaker
Listen, we we have predictions for a reason. and then And this season on an 11-game winning streak. Well, you

Bears' Performance Highlights

00:04:36
Speaker
never know. But in the same comment at College World 1086 wrote, the Rams got the first seat at best. The Bears are getting the two seats. So I'm not the only one that was thinking that in the same video at just some guy 461. The offense is fine. It's the defense that will determine how the rest of the season plays out. I think we can all agree with that comment. And then our buddy, call me Z. Bears are my number two team.
00:05:00
Speaker
So it's all love every week except this week. Go Bears, baby. Die Eagles die is what ended up happening. And then probably my favorite comments, which came from the predictions.
00:05:13
Speaker
At Turvalis Stinker, 406, didn't age well with a lot of crying face emojis laughing. At Phoenix Chaos, ha ha ha ha. And Gary...
00:05:26
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and ah gary Suck up, Sucup, 6-5-7-9-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0- eagles and i was the lone bears victor o how do you feel after all of that i mean i'm sure we can kind of go into the predictions but ah you guys have been taking it very well you guys have been great sports about it No, Chris, I want to give you your flowers. Like, I think me and Miller were not willing to talk. Number one seed, none of that.
00:05:55
Speaker
We were just looking at this matchup. And let's be honest, right? on The biggest of the biggest Bears homer was the only person that had e us beating the Eagles the way we did.
00:06:06
Speaker
We all were trying to be realistic, practical. Let's be honest, right? when When theirs gets our hopes high and when we think we're going to roll some teams, that's the time they pull the rug beneath us and we fall flat on our faces. so I think we're all trying to be little cautious, but dude,
00:06:24
Speaker
This is dreamland. i No one at the beginning of the season had told me that we're going to go 9-3. Look the way we are looking. Beat Eagles at home. Man, we are flying high. This is awesome.
00:06:35
Speaker
Congrats to all Bears fans. Truly. Miller, your thoughts? Yeah, agreed. Couldn't say it better myself. Fucking amazing. Hey, I pick them like I see them. I did not see this one coming in.
00:06:46
Speaker
surprising I was into it the entire time. i just remember the first few games of the season, I was just like, eh, not going to celebrate. Things are going to break down. Things are going to go bad. And now it's like, I'm living and dying with this team, man. Every time.
00:06:59
Speaker
I immediately thought of us watching the game against the Vikings. And we were like, Hey, we knew this was happening. Remember, we kind of all said that this is the typical bear season. They've already exceeded the win totals from a majority of sports books. They had them at seven and eight. It was a couple half, I think. Yeah. yeah Some had them at seven early on and then it got bumped to eight.
00:07:23
Speaker
um They exceeded our wins. None of us had them going past eight. um So I'm just rolling with it. This is great. it's ah've It's been a long time since I've been in this position.
00:07:35
Speaker
um But yeah, let's um let's move on. Thank you guys for your comments. We appreciate it. Please continue to comment on our videos. We will try to read them and reply as much as possible. Even the dumb ones where some people don't look at the whole video and think that we are not Bears fans and that they thought we were a Philly podcast.
00:07:54
Speaker
Yes, that was one of All right. ah We are in the midst of week 13. We have a game ongoing Monday night, but we're essential essentially over here for us.
00:08:05
Speaker
Boys, what are your thoughts on week 13 in the NFL as of right now?

NFL Week 13 Surprises and Outcomes

00:08:11
Speaker
Yeah, I can start. um Thursday, Jesus, like, the season kind of flipped on its head, I think, right? Like, Cowboys beating Kansas City, like, whose playoff chances dropped to 38%. It's a tough road i ahead of them.
00:08:26
Speaker
Um, and can you think of like a world, like they were in the Superbowl and they may not make it back. Right. Like that's like incredible to me. The Bengals beating the Ravens, that division is wide open and the playoff chances. I think Ravens still have an inside shot at winning the division, making the playoffs. But that, that flipped on said Friday bears upsetting, um,
00:08:50
Speaker
Eagles, that will have playoff ramifications. like Cowboys could catch them if they keep playing this way, but the division, the NFL is wide open, and this is why we love football so much, right? like We think we know, like today, Panthers upsetting the Rams, like giving us the inside shot number one. Dude, the league is wide open like any given Sunday. Beautiful, beautiful football to watch. Absolutely.
00:09:15
Speaker
um My takeaway is just I hate Thursday night football with a passion. Friday night, it did not. It was Friday day, which has made it a little more tolerable.
00:09:26
Speaker
But there's nothing better than Thanksgiving football. Those three games, just sitting back, eating some good food, watching some football. It's fucking awesome, dude. I think it was a great slate for a Thanksgiving Day.
00:09:39
Speaker
it it turned out to be a really good slate of games, which, yeah surprising enough, you you don't really see that often. Boys, my actual take has nothing to do with football. Of course it doesn't.
00:09:50
Speaker
It has to do with the halftime show that Detroit put up. Jack White and Eminem. Holy crap, what a performance. The fact that Jack White got to play Seven Nation Army and then have the whole crowd going off on that song...
00:10:05
Speaker
that was a great halftime show. Some are saying that this could have been a super bowl halftime show. I'm like, you guys got to calm down. This was perfect for what we needed. Jack white was great. He was a, he's a Detroit fan. So, and then the surprise that Eminem was in there too. I think some people weren't expecting it. And so that was great. I thought it was great. Thursday football was fantastic.
00:10:27
Speaker
Uh, Before we move on to the Bears-Eagles recap and we go that route, the Black Friday game. Do you guys feel like that's going to be the slate that takes over?
00:10:38
Speaker
Like that's going to be the mainstays? It's like a Monday and night football game. It's the only NFL game around. Is that good for the NFL bad? What are your thoughts on that? It's going to stay. I mean, it's going to stay. It's contract. But, like, do you feel like that has to be a top tier?
00:10:54
Speaker
Like, you know how Thanksgiving is usually Dallas, then it's Lions, and then it's Bears. Like, it's always that tradition thing. But that they have a chance to make that Black Friday game be the hottest team or the best team. Like, they they now have an opportunity to showcase another team. Do you think that the NFL takes advantage of that? No.
00:11:13
Speaker
I don't. Really? you If you're asking me, do I think there's going to be a one team that's going to stay there and play every time? No, I'm just saying, like, if it's going to be must-watch, like the... Like marquee matchups. Yes. I mean, all those primetime games are must-watch at the beginning of the season, typically.
00:11:30
Speaker
That's fair. it's like the the fun part of it, right, is like NFL has some idea. They have a prediction of how teams will do, right? And then they put them there. Like this means that they had quite high expectations for the Bears. They're putting them against a Super Bowl chance on Friday.
00:11:47
Speaker
Like, but look at the Bengals, right? Like they thought Borough would be healthy and that that matchup had was supposed to be more juicier than what it was. So like, it's all It's all a gamble at the end of the day, right? They're trying to make their best predictions and what it is. But no, I love what it is. like i was When you were talking, I was thinking if all the teams play, maybe they can add a second game on Friday or something like that. once If they add a second game, i'm I'm pretty sure that the NFL will need to add another another game into the schedule and then another bye that's going be many games. don't know that they, I mean, they're the NFL, they can do what they want, but I believe there's, the issue is they're competing in college. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:27
Speaker
So I don't know that they'll be able I mean, this is an NFL game, but like, damn college football had those stacked. Like, they have some pretty good matchups to themselves this week too, but. um Also, Prime Vision.
00:12:38
Speaker
I love Prime Vision. I watched a whole game on Prime Vision. It was great. They had the probabilities of if it was going to be a run or a pass. it It was great. i I genuinely enjoyed that game. All right. Speaking of the game itself, Bears-Eagles

Bears vs. Eagles Recap

00:12:51
Speaker
recap. The Bears beat...
00:12:53
Speaker
The Eagles 24 to 15. ah Not only are we first place in the NFC North, as of right now, we are first place in the NFC. Thank you to the Panthers beating the Rams. Chicago Bears have now won five straight.
00:13:06
Speaker
We're going to get into some of the stats of the game. Caleb Williams went 17 of 36 with 154 yards through a beautiful touchdown, but also through one of the worst interceptions I think I've ever seen in a long time.
00:13:19
Speaker
um Manungai led the game in rushing 22 carries, 130 with one touchdown. Berkeley only had 56 with 13. I'm sorry, i didn't give Hertz's numbers. Jalen Hertz went 230, 19 of 34 with two touchdowns and one interception.
00:13:37
Speaker
Met led the receiving with 36 and Bard led tackles with four. We also got a couple... um Interceptions in there too for our side so we'll talk a little bit about the defense but before we get started we actually have to start with one of my favorite segments I have to say one of my favorites because we have other segments now so the the best minute in foot podcast out there the best minute minutes a long time as Miller has proven before so ah let's get into it you know what time it is gang it's Miller's Glazing Minute
00:14:24
Speaker
Well, let's take a trip down memory lane, shall we? And let's go back last year around these times. If y'all remember, the Bears blew it in their Thanksgiving game against Detroit.
00:14:37
Speaker
Subsequently, a few days later, Matt Eberflus was fired by the Chicago Bears after starting blowing multiple one possession games at the end of games.
00:14:49
Speaker
We were the laughing stock of the NFL, firing the offensive coordinator three weeks prior. The Bears were in a free fall. Caleb was even being questioned if he was the number one seed.
00:15:00
Speaker
They said he was the problem. Fast forward, not even a year later, under a competent head coach, Caleb is nine and three and leading the number one seed in the NFC game.
00:15:15
Speaker
Let's fucking go. Now, he's not always great, but you know what? He's getting it done, baby.
00:15:24
Speaker
Kept it under a minute this time with two seconds to spare, it looks like. ah Yeah, Boopin, your thoughts on Caleb's performance? um Yeah, a running game left away. Yeah.
00:15:39
Speaker
I don't know, if the offense looked like they obviously had a game plan, which was like watching was somehow an advantage for us, and they kept pushing on it over and over again. um But he was making some timely plays.
00:15:51
Speaker
Let's be honest, like, Probably not the worst game we've seen him play this game, but probably somewhere in the middle. And, like, you know, the stats weren't there to back it, but I but i thought he had a decent game.
00:16:03
Speaker
the The f freaking interception, which, you know, he doesn't throw very often. Like, oh, man, when that happened, I was like, oh, no, here we go. But, hey, you know, like, that's that's when the difference is, I think, this year. are We have a coaching staff, and we have a team around him, and everyone's rallying to the ball and playing hard.
00:16:23
Speaker
Again, like I don't think he's anywhere close to the three balls I'm giving away in a minute, like just preview, but props to him. he didn't he didn't He only made one bonehead.
00:16:35
Speaker
Yeah, um I have to agree with what you guys said. i Normally, I would probably want to nitpick on the bad, but that one touchdown he threw to Komet was gorgeous. Like, I mean, there's no other way of putting it. So, you know what?
00:16:49
Speaker
He got us the win. He went in primetime, all eyes on us kind of game and got us first place. Like, this team is just it's It's just going great. um I mean, it's to add on to that, past my minute, but um Even at the end of the game, the last drive or two, he was actually throwing some softies. It was rare to see. He was floating some balls out there, for including the one to commit.
00:17:18
Speaker
It was quite impressive to watch. and It was just like, ooh, is he pulling another tool out of his tool belt? Here we go, baby. We'll see. We'll see if he does that moving forward because a lot of the times he's just ripping it.
00:17:31
Speaker
But this game, few softballs turned into some Nice gains. um We have to talk about it. What the hell was that screen? Dude, you see it all the time. You act like this is like...
00:17:44
Speaker
Not like that, though. Yes, it happened all the time. And unfortunately, he made the wrong mistake, and he threw it rather than throwing into the ground or faking it. And he did you know he did the throwing on the ground on one of the plays, too, which is smart. He knew one of the I don't know if it was before or after that play, but there was a there was a person that came untouched and was going to get railed, and he just threw it at the feet.
00:18:07
Speaker
I think it was a swift. So, like, he's getting there. But, yeah, like I said, I don't want to nitpick on that play. So, speaking of not nitpicking, Let's just jump into the best news. We're going into our new segment.
00:18:18
Speaker
I'm still working on a jingle for you, Boopin, but coaches... Better, best, never let it rest. There you go. Until the good gets better, better gets best.
00:18:29
Speaker
Coaches love to give balls away to their best players, and sometimes you need two of them. But for this, we're getting into three with Boopin's Balls, where Boopin gives game balls to players of the game. Go ahead, Boopin.
00:18:43
Speaker
Thank you, sir. What a game. What a game, boys. I'm running out of good things to say about this team. So let's get straight into it. First off, honorable mention to the O-line.
00:18:55
Speaker
God, they played their asses off. But the third ball has to go to our running backs. Both of them hit 100 yards. First time it's been done since 1985. What else happened in 85?
00:19:09
Speaker
You guys can Google that, but ah they have to have to start their second one. Second ball goes to the league leading turnover machines.
00:19:22
Speaker
We got Kevin Bayard with another interception and Neshan right. Like the tush push no more. Like he, he got the fumble. I think the fumble was probably like a good turning point in the game.
00:19:35
Speaker
God hats off to those people, both of them. Again, Like, our defense is leading the league in turnovers, and these two are just leading it right from front. So props to them.
00:19:45
Speaker
Like, God, I can't say good things about them. Neshawn Wright actually got a game ball from Ben Jansen finally, which is also good to see. um First one, ah probably, um you know, we've given them last week, but second week in a row, our DC, and Dennis Allen,
00:20:03
Speaker
get a Getting this shorthanded team to show up on a short week on the national stage, holding the Super Bowl champs to 15 freaking points. One, including some of us here, doubted them. But damn, the team stood up.
00:20:18
Speaker
Saquon Barkley had 36-some yards. We thought he would run 200 on us. Man, I don't know what you what what these guys are eating, sir. Please keep doing this. Hopefully, you get some reinforcement back soon. But until then, hats off to you, sir. You get the first game ball.
00:20:33
Speaker
I know what they're eating. They're eating that chocolate shake from Wiener Circle because that's the only way they're performing that well. um When we were talking about predictions last week, I said, and I'm i'm not trying to take all the credit for a book okay it, was we needed the defense. like If the defense could hold, we have a chance. They did more than hold. um So...
00:20:54
Speaker
Chris, like, here's how amazing the backup linebackers were out, dude. Like, so these people are basically off practice squads and off the streets that we are playing. But, like, as a unit, they all make it work, man.
00:21:06
Speaker
just Just incredible. like i'm Like I said, running with good things to say on this team right now. Yep. We got Hurts on an interception. Saquon Barkley that was struggling. He got a good few runs, but like he wasn't what we thought some people here said that that he was going to take over the game. We didn't even get to see that.
00:21:25
Speaker
um Let's get into some questions of the game. oh We usually talk about the offense. I like to say the word inconsistency as a whole, typically with a running game.
00:21:37
Speaker
ah But even with this win and how Kayla performed, are we how are we feeling with this offense? Or are we just at a point where whatever the offense is, if it's great, great. If it's not, that we're just getting wins.
00:21:51
Speaker
I would like to ask a question. Sure. Define inconsistent, please. Sure. When you do one thing and then you don't repeat it the following week.
00:22:04
Speaker
So if you run for 300 yards one week and you run for 299 the next week, you're a consistent but No, hey but in all seriousness, in all seriousness, I think if we have 300 rushing yards, we're not talking about, and that's just a great game in general. What I was just trying to say was that we had 284. I was just saying we went pretty much had 284.
00:22:30
Speaker
Listen, we when I'm talking about the offense, it's how Caleb goes, it's how we go. Caleb had how many touchdowns last week?
00:22:39
Speaker
Two, I think. I thought it was three. Wait, last week or this week? Eagles or? Previous game. Not Eagles game. Three, I think. yeahs So on this one, we had one, but we had a great running game. like My thing is, ah do we need that? Do we need our quarterback to go two plus touchdowns, three plus touchdowns to get wins, or are we just going get wins? Dude, you need to stop.
00:23:03
Speaker
Okay, I love you. You need to stop on hating this offense. I am not hating. It's a genuine question. It doesn't run through one player. This is not the Caleb show anymore, okay?
00:23:15
Speaker
He's not the guy that is doing everything for this offense. You need to get over it. He doesn't need to make every splash play. If he has a bad game, it doesn't mean we're inconsistent.
00:23:27
Speaker
It just means that Ben Johnson is better than everybody else. And the what he's doing offensively is just crazy at this point. They didn't need Caleb to do anything special. He threw some balls away.
00:23:40
Speaker
He missed a few throws. He adjusted. He made some good plays. Can't take that away from him. But the bottom line is Ben Johnson saw the deficiency from the get-go. They knew, and they ran it down their throats.
00:23:53
Speaker
The entire game, all they did was run, run, run. And they came out victorious because of it. 284 yards later. You need to get off this Caleb hate bandwagon and jump on board to the offensive bandwagon rather than just hating on Caleb. Listen, it's not hating on Caleb. It's bullshit. You know what's crazy? No, no, no. Let me put it to you.
00:24:17
Speaker
Nine and ten these last ten games, isn't it? Let me put it to you this way, though. After this game, you know what was the question on a lot of the media networks? Now that you've seen them beat the Eagles the way that they did, are they now a real team?
00:24:32
Speaker
They were asking if a 9-3 team at this point in the season was real, and that's because of what the Bears are. You don't know who's real. You don't know who who's real right now. Look at the Colts.
00:24:45
Speaker
What have the Colts done? They were, what, eight and two and now they're like eight and four They're struggling. They're going to be asking the same question there because they just lost to two playoff teams.
00:24:56
Speaker
Like, you don't know who's real anymore. It's ah it's a pretty pretty even keel league. I mean, every week you have upsets. You have the Panthers that are, i think, 7-5 They're surprising people.
00:25:11
Speaker
They're going to just... They want the clicks, bro. hey Let's switch it over to the defense... We had a couple players come back from injury, but it didn't look like the defense skipped a beat compared to the last week.
00:25:26
Speaker
Boys, how much credit do we need to give this defense for this win in particular? Miller, start us off. Yeah, they deserve a lot of credit. I mean, they really held Saquon in check, which was the big question mark.
00:25:39
Speaker
But at the end of the day... I mean, if you saw the CJGJ interview, like, it just seems like there's having, the Eagles are having some issues on offense. They're not scheming anything up. There's no movement on the line, but free snap, motion. They're just, they're just plain Jane, man. And they're getting ripped for it consistently.
00:26:03
Speaker
So as much as I want to get, ah you got to give props to our defense. Like Boopin mentioned before, we got linebackers that were at Topgolf last week. They're playing this week. And it's just like, it's impressive that we were able to limit their best player.
00:26:16
Speaker
But um AJ did have a game. So we'll see if um we can get that corrected. But got to give them props. Boopin, what do you think? Yeah, like, again, non-believer here for how much they did. They definitely deserve credit, but it's like that annoying, like, defense that we had under Flues where they would bend, not break.
00:26:38
Speaker
It's that version of that, I think, what we are seeing because... Like Miller said, A.J. Brown got his, but still we were able to like, I still don't understand how Saquon did not get 400 yards on us. i I know the game. I watched the game. I still don't understand it. So props to them.
00:26:54
Speaker
Like Miller said, we saw an advantage. We took it. But I still don't understand what went wrong for Philly and how we got this. Well, if you if you had him on your fantasy team, you would know that it's not an um an anomaly because he has not done well for me.

Eagles' Struggles vs. Bears' Success

00:27:13
Speaker
um I watched the game with two of my buddies, the ah Z and Dakota, who are Philly fans. And apparently the city of Philadelphia has been clamoring to get rid of their offensive coordinator. I was not aware of this.
00:27:30
Speaker
I asked throughout the game, like, what are you guys talking about? You're 8-3 at this point. and he's And they're both like, no, you don't understand. like We're watching this offense go down.
00:27:42
Speaker
And as I'm watching the game, they're like, look, he, AJ Brown is, is a great zone, like inside zone person. You, you can get in there. He'll make the catch. And sure enough, he made the, some great catches. And there was a one touchdown that he caught on the, like on the corner. That was amazing too. But like, apparently this has been ongoing and,
00:28:03
Speaker
the fans the Philly fans are are feeling it. So i I understand that. I wasn't aware of it before I made the picks that that was a thing. I think if we kind of did a little bit more research on that, we probably could have seen something about that, but even as someone that doesn't really follow other teams like that, that was just, that just came out of nowhere for me. Yeah, like, but usually, like, when that happens, a team like the Bears, with all the injury we had, I love the Bears, but, like, do I think this would be a get-right game on the way to the playoffs. that That's what I was worried about. Like, a dumb person like us can say, run the frickin' ball or figure a way to run the ball because, like I said, our linebackers were in street clothes last week and they somehow missed that.
00:28:43
Speaker
That's one thing, too. and And Miller, I think you were going to say something. But ah if not, the time of possession, the Bears really took advantage of that. um Having our defense not be there that long and the offense taking over with time. I think that was more helpful, a lot more helpful than people think.
00:28:59
Speaker
Well, when you have an inconsistent run game like the Bears, that is very true. You know what? You said it this time. And I'm glad that it took this long for you. clip it but I'm glad it took this long for you to realize that. All right, let's switch off into some other topics here.
00:29:13
Speaker
Ben Johnson made SportsCenter not because he made an amazing play, but because of what happened in the locker room after the game. I did not write this question, but apparently the question is, should we start creating the mold for the Ben Johnson statue at the same time the stadium is built at Arlington Heights?
00:29:33
Speaker
Jesus Christ, we're going to lose subscribers with this question. But Miller, go ahead. Yes, we are on multiple points. But, I mean, I don't know if you saw the postgame. I don't know. Flashback a few weeks earlier, um the local hot dog joint, Wiener Circle downtown, gave out free hot dogs because they said if Caleb had a four-touchdown game, they would do it. They did it.
00:29:58
Speaker
um I think a few days later they came out and they said they would do it again if Ben Johnson took his shirt off. Well, he was asked about that. He was aware of it many weeks ago, but every week just kept going by, going by, going by.
00:30:13
Speaker
And finally, this week, The motherfucker takes his shirt off in the speech. It was beautiful. It was awesome. And it was everywhere. It exploded.
00:30:26
Speaker
It was on all the big networks. They were talking about the fact that he did this for the city of Chicago. We're eating tonight, baby. Tuesday 11 until they run out. Get in line early. You might be able to see and meet Caleb Williams' dog.
00:30:43
Speaker
What? Yeah, he was there the last time they did it. They also did have Prime, the post-game analyst, look at that after. And you can tell right away, that like, that locker room is awesome. People were breaking the ceiling.
00:30:58
Speaker
Yeah. um There was a thing that I didn't like when Ben Johnson was doing that because it just felt like, eh, you know, it's... But I think people just gravitated toward him now. Like, I'm okay with it now, just given the success. But...
00:31:14
Speaker
i Listen, i'm being a very I'm being very real. a I'm not a fan of people like... Okay, I want to take a vote. ah People, please comment on this. When that video drops, I feel like running through a wall and I don't even play for this team, okay?
00:31:28
Speaker
If it doesn't get you that freaking fired up, Get the F out of here, dude. Here's my thing. No, here's my thing. And that's a great question to hear the comments. say here's them If you're 2-7 and you give a speech like that, like, come on.
00:31:41
Speaker
Like, that's what I'm saying. If you're 2-7 and you hear a speech like that, like, ugh, I don't know. I have some support in the room right here. Dude, you're just a fucking hater, bro. You've been a hater all year. You hated the quarterback. You hated Ben Johnson.
00:31:56
Speaker
the speech after. No, I don't

Is the Media Underestimating the Bears?

00:31:58
Speaker
hate Ben Johnson. We're 9-3, number one in the NFC, and now you're like slowly coming over to our side, acting like you were here the whole time. and Let's not talk about going on the other side, you bitches. I remember who you guys picked to win this game. okay all right Hey, let's go back to the question. I saw you guys slip that Arndon Heights question in there. First off, fuck you. Second off, I do like the first part of the question. Wherever the new stadium is, I'll give you guys that much.
00:32:26
Speaker
We can build a statue. Not wherever. It's Arlington Heights. People, hang on. Gold standard. Dad bod, baby. Let's go. Let's go. he is pretty ripped. I'm not going lie. I was not expecting that. Make dad bod great again. Let's go. That's probably why it took him like a month. you needed to get it. probably he just kidding Or you know, right before he gave the speech, he did like 50 sit-ups or whatever because he knew he was going to do that.
00:32:50
Speaker
um That was awesome. That was great. It's great for us to have little moments like that. Next question that we have here is, what do we make of this offensive line with Trapello being our left tackle?
00:33:02
Speaker
Can we consider this line the best in the league? Boopin. I don't know where that question came from, but um good to good good good point you guys brought it up. Both Theo and Trapilo, they were the lowest graded offensive players on the line.
00:33:19
Speaker
But here's what I... Yeah, where? Where? Where? Where? on all Pretty fucking false. Pretty fucking false. On all websites with credibility. They also rated Caleb Williams behind J.J. McCarthy last week. I saw that last week. Hold on. What do you mean credibility when players don't even buy it? Come on now.
00:33:40
Speaker
There's got to be a way. I know there are some of the standards and like might might be low, but there is no other way. I'm sorry. Like find me another way. I'll stop looking at them. But the good news, like I was reading some stuff when after looking at this question was,
00:33:56
Speaker
It seems like O-line and like O-line coaches, if let's say your left tackle's out, you're able to make that up. You may like put a tight end on the running back in there. There's ways to like kind of counter that.
00:34:07
Speaker
And because the rest of the unit is like, there's like the ah the other four people on top 10 of the league. when most of the standings I've seen. Because of that, they're able to like counteract that one glaring need we have with like the tight end will shift them or whatever. And we are able to overcome that.
00:34:29
Speaker
i I am proud of that. wait It's almost like you're saying we're inconsistent. What do you mean? I'm not saying we're inconsistent. I'm saying that's a need, and I am proud of that would even with that being a need, our offensive line is playing as well as doing 284 yards.
00:34:45
Speaker
Miller, go ahead. Okay, so first off, you're going to insult my question, give a bullshit answer how one guy is rated badly this past game, even though he's being praised on how well he stepped into the left tackle role and how many people view him as the future left tackle in this league.
00:35:06
Speaker
After you yourself have phrased Ryan Poles for all his picks, and him being a second rounder and how we need to give him time to develop. And then you discount our offensive line and not even think that you consider them a best in the league.
00:35:21
Speaker
We have four solid, really, really good offensive linemen and one mediocre one. And you're going to not call that one of the best in the leagues. Come on, bro.
00:35:33
Speaker
Don't insult my question like that. Name me a better one if you're going to be like, I don't know where this question came from. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. um i just knew i bet you I bet you we have a better running game than they do.
00:35:46
Speaker
And passing game. All right. We will it offline. I am taking Miller's side. I feel like given the performance that we had with the with the run game, this has to be top five guaranteed. Bro, you are Mr. Inconsistent. Listen, when we're talking about just offensive line, though, the fact that we still don't give up that many sacks, I think we only gave up, what, two or three this game,
00:36:13
Speaker
um who We gave up two, like, come on We used to give up seven per game Or eight per game, and that's all Because of scheming and the offensive line We have to give them love, bro Top three in my book, so I agree with Miller Alright, boys, those were the questions On the recap, we're gonna get to the best part Next week, I'm asking questions Fuck this bullshit Alright, I look forward to seeing that agenda With some, how would you rate Ben Johnson's chest between one and ten In the positivity score The four chests here. The golden chest. The four chests.
00:36:46
Speaker
or The nipple awards. Golden Areolas presented by Ben Johnson. um Let's go into our positives ah positivity score.
00:36:57
Speaker
We give positivity scores of 1 to 10, depending on the performance each week. Last week, Miller had the Bears at an 8. Boopin had them at a 7.5. had them at a 7. i had them at a seven Miller, do you want to start us off? Where are we at on the positivity score? You did say last week these increments are getting weird. Are they getting weird? you really want me to start?
00:37:19
Speaker
Yes.
00:37:22
Speaker
Say it. but Say it.
00:37:27
Speaker
Oh, my God. We're the number one seed in the NFC. How do you not have us in a nine and a half? Jesus Christ. Let's go, motherfuckers.
00:37:38
Speaker
Let's fucking go. All right, Boopin. Nowhere to go but down, baby. but i was at a 7.5. And, like, you know, we were going up, like, half a point to basically every game because we were winning. This was a statement win, I think.
00:37:54
Speaker
I have to go up. I'm not as high as Miller. I can't be. Maybe I wish I was. I will go up a whole point. 8.5 is where i am at. Alright. Eight and a half. Pretty close.
00:38:05
Speaker
Listen. Miller, you know there's only.5 between you and Super Bowl. i was going to say, I thought you were going to go another increment, but you're going full. if ah We'll talk about it here in a little bit. um I just want to say...
00:38:20
Speaker
Boopin is not drinking enough of the sauce. I'm at nine. This was a hell of a win on primetime. Every eyes was on his game. And now the whole fucking world knows this Bears team is for real after the performance they gave with the Bears. Nine. I'm sticking to it. I was going to go a little bit higher.
00:38:39
Speaker
No, this game, just the way that we we got the fans to leave with like 10 minutes in the game. It was so great. We had ah ah fuck the Packers chant going. You can hear the whole stadium. It was a Bears filled fucking stadium. It was a great game. Dominated the game, man. We were up by what? Like,
00:38:59
Speaker
14-15 points going into the the score has onlycor a garbage that yeah score at the end did not reflect the game we were missed the field goal too like we there's so much we could go into any thoughts on that 2 point conversion that Sirianni ran? my friends didn't like it I'll you that Like originally my first thought when they ran the two-point conversion right after they scored the first touchdown and was like, what are you doing? Why wouldn't you score?
00:39:23
Speaker
But after thinking about it, really hearing him too, it kind of does make sense. Like you kind of want to know how many possessions you need to have. That's what they said on Prime Vision too, where it's like, hey, you miss it. All right, you you you know what you have to do next. but You know you need two possessions, so you need to do an onside kick.
00:39:40
Speaker
Yep. I kind of get that they didn't My friends didn't like it. We didn't understand it. And then they gave that great explanation on prime vision. And we're like, it makes sense. And I think that's a great view of how analytics are kind of taking over a lot of that because that's an analytic decision. I think coaches from the past would never make something like that. They would secure the points and figure it out as the game goes on. And they would have, if they got in the end zone again, they would run it.
00:40:03
Speaker
Yeah. All right, boys. Probably the most important game that the Bears have coming up in the foreseeable future. It is Bears versus Packers at Lambeau Field. 325 kickoff. ESPN Sportsbook, but responsibly, if you decide to do have it as if over 46 and a half, it actually dropped to 45 and a half as of today. And the Packers are favorite. They started at ah minus six and a half and then that's now at six.
00:40:32
Speaker
Boys, what do the Bears need to do to get a victory at Lambeau Field? Miller. Stop Micah Parsons. We've seen it in multiple games this year.
00:40:43
Speaker
The stud defensive end causing havoc in the Bears' backfield. Saw it with TJ Watt. He saw it with Max Crosby. Luckily, we were able to get past him. and get those dubs. Let's see if we can do it again.
00:40:57
Speaker
They did just lose Wyatt. We don't know the status of him. He's the big defensive tackle that really helps the run, ah really stops the run. So if we can stop Micah Parsons from causing havoc in the background, we have a chance to be successful. Boopin, your thoughts?
00:41:11
Speaker
Yeah, we got to stay on our game plan that's been working. Offense, you know, keep scoring points let the defense step up i'm not even gonna say anything let the defense step up like they have been you know like they've they've been throwing up when we need them to offense has been staying on task we need the same game i am gonna go a different route and i'm gonna say there's two players that need to have great performances well three because one of them is going to be throwing to them basically so three players need to have great performance DJ Moore needs to have a fantastic game.
00:41:44
Speaker
We need to see more explosive plays going to him. i think he looked great this game on some of the possessions. I know some were kind of like set up for him to kind of make some headway.
00:41:56
Speaker
I think this is the game um where you might actually see some more because I think this is going to be a Loveland game. I think Loveland is going to go nuts this game.
00:42:07
Speaker
if they use him correctly, and he he he he just, I don't know, he he looks he's been looking great the last couple weeks. like This is looking like a great pick. I don't know. i don't know like I don't know. how you You guys are more into the draft picks than I am, but the more that I see Loveland, it's like,
00:42:24
Speaker
I get it. I get why this pick happened. I think he and DJ Moore need to have a hell of a game. The defense obviously needs to keep getting healthy, keep doing what they're doing, but these guys need to have hell of a game for the Bears to to win this out. Let's look over on the other side of the field.
00:42:39
Speaker
The Packers had they had a game against the Lions, and there's no other way of saying it. So what do the Packers need to do to win the game? Boopin. Yeah, um Packers, I think the run name didn't look as great. Like, love picked defense apart.
00:42:54
Speaker
Two for four touchdowns against the Lions. But I think if they want to win this game, I feel like they have to take advantage our weakness. Again, linebackers and run the ball. that That, like you said, control the football, control the playcock, keep our offense at bay as much as possible.
00:43:10
Speaker
That's what they need to do, change it up a little bit. And if they're successfully able to do that at home, I think they beat us. Miller? Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I think that game against Detroit was the best I've seen Jordan Love play.
00:43:24
Speaker
He was playing really well. You got to hope the Lions curse. I don't know if it's still as big a deal as it was like last year, but the Lions curse whenever they but the team that plays the Lions the following week, they usually lose because they get so beat up.
00:43:39
Speaker
So we'll see if that happens with the Packers. I got hope that it it does, but as far as their team is concerned, I would imagine ah Jordan Love needs to have a good game, spread the ball around like he has been to his weapons, and get that running game going. Let's see how this offense competes against this defense and this defense continue to outperform.
00:44:00
Speaker
Yeah, Jordan Love went 18 of 30, 234 yards with four touchdowns. Jared Goff had a game. like People are forgetting that. He went 20 for 26, 256 yards for two touchdowns. um I think for me, Miller kind of touched on it with Parsons. I think If Parsons can have a game where he puts pressure on Caleb and forces him to make bad throws or forces him to make bad decisions, it's going to be a long day for our offense.
00:44:27
Speaker
um So I think that offensive pressure, I think we're going to see a lot more blitzes. We're going to see a lot more pressure um from this team because I think they think, not to say that they're right, but I think they think that if they put pressure on Caleb Williams throughout the whole game, he's going to make some mistakes, and that's probably going to be what,
00:44:47
Speaker
leads them. We're recording on Sunday. We normally record our episodes on Tuesday release on Wednesday, but because of the black Friday schedule, we are doing this a little bit early. So we don't know what the weather is going to be um at Lambeau.
00:45:00
Speaker
Typically these are both cold weather teams, so it's not really going to affect them, but the three o'clock game going in from daytime tonight, I know has some effect on some teams, but we're both outdoor teams. i don't think it's really going be a big deal. So let's

Anticipation for Bears vs. Packers

00:45:13
Speaker
get into it. Probably are one of our most popular shorts that we had from our last week, which was Bears-Eagles prediction. Now we have to do Bears-Hackers predictions. There we go. ah Currently our record, Miller is eight and four Boopin 7-5, am at a solid 9-3, baby, just like the Chicago Bears.
00:45:33
Speaker
um When we looked at this game in particular, even though I was criticized about why I was picking certain ways when we did the recording, Boopin and Miller both have losses happening.
00:45:45
Speaker
i had them winning this game. Will that stay? Let's find out. we Who wants to start? Let's start there. Who wants to start? Hey, you got the magic tongue right now. Let's go.
00:45:56
Speaker
You want me to start? Okay. Yeah. All right. I'll start. So listen, last week I called you guys sheeps. I apologize, but when I'm right, I'm right. um Sometimes we just forget. We do this podcast. We get all these stats. We try to be very smart with it, but sometimes we have to be fans.
00:46:13
Speaker
We have to support our team, even though it might look like a blowout or all of these things, whatever the case is. This was the one game that I looked at the schedule when we were talking about my dumbass comment from last week about winning out and whatnot. This was the game that I felt could start We would lose against Eagles, but I picked them to win. But hey it would have been like back-to-back losses, which could have knocked us out. So that's why I was, I didn't explain myself correctly, so I apologize for that.
00:46:41
Speaker
Boys, I'm riding this train. I am riding this train hard. i think it's going to be another close one. I think it's going to be 27-23 Bears.
00:46:53
Speaker
Yes! There's just something about this team. i I'm not even going to say I wish this was different or whatever case. me No, I am writing this team hard and dry all year long. Now we are winning this game. My confidence is up. I'm at a nine on the positivity score.
00:47:12
Speaker
bears wind Bears win. Bears win. Bears win. Who would like to go next? Let's go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. Are you ready? Are you ready? I'm ready. Is Caleb Williams going to beat the Packers two times in Lambeau Field in 2025?
00:47:28
Speaker
Hell no. He's not. got We are not getting a dub this week. Packers are going to twenty four seventeen I just don't think we have the offense this week to compete. I think Mike Hawthorne's plays causes a lot of havoc.
00:47:45
Speaker
specifically with our rookie and I think the Packers are gonna beat us in there. Well, the sheep continue to ride it looks like. Boopin, are we steering this ship are you gonna keep going with the herd with Miller? or Like you said, I feel like I need to explain myself too.
00:48:00
Speaker
So, a couple weeks ago I was leading this prediction record between the three of us. um i have you know I have a little bit of a lead, let's be honest, but I've been putting it on the line, people.
00:48:14
Speaker
I've been saying, I've been hoping, I've been praying that the Bears win, but On this prediction, I've been saying they lose because on paper, it looks like a loss, you know, and it's been going well, at least for the Bears.
00:48:27
Speaker
You know, I have lost three in a row, I think, but the Bears have won, like you say, five in a row. So I'm going to keep this train going. I'm going to say we lose a close one in Lambeau, 24-20, but you guys know where I'm No. See, Miller, no. I have to throw my bone in here. We can't let this be a thing. No. Because then he's going to take credit. He's going to go on a 10-loss streak and saying that been picking against them. What is he taking credit for? I mean, his record is his record. He's not claiming it's different. He's picking against them just because he's picking against them. Maybe he wants to be happy either way.
00:49:07
Speaker
Either he's right in the Packers' win or he's happy if the Bears won. I see the problem with it. There was a lot of things. There was a lot of games, right? The Detroit game with the Packers. like I think ah our cornerback safeties is a strength of the defense. Our D-line is not. The lines are the opposite. The D-line is their strength.
00:49:25
Speaker
And their cornerbacks and safeties looks like not their strength. So it was interesting to see Love throw. I think that will contain, like Miller said, the Wyatt guy, the other defensive end is out. That means we should be able to handle Tarson.
00:49:38
Speaker
um I feel positively, but I think still, Packers in Lambeau are our kryptonite and you know recently we've won there so like the chances are we we don't get as lucky so we lose 24-20 it's a close game I just I don't know I guess it's the homer in me that it's like I'm finally confident to say this is what I'm looking for and then here I am hearing this bullshit where where it's where we're not on the same page so you know what
00:50:09
Speaker
I understand it.

Bears' Playoff Prospects

00:50:11
Speaker
I get it. Let us know in the comments again how these two guys are wrong or now people are going to think we're Packers fans because two of could still be an elite team and go to ah probably what? The fifth best team in the NFC and lose in their building? That doesn't make you a shitty team at this point. You've already proven this enough.
00:50:29
Speaker
Given what happened You're not going win out. No, but given what happened today, I know Bupin was giving stats before. ESPN had the Bears at making the playoffs still at 60-61 or something like that. So, like, even a game like this still has importance. I think, Miller, you and I can probably agree that the Lions game maybe at the end of the season might not have as much to deal with, maybe, just given because the Lions lost and We don't know what they look like now, too. But I think the Packers games, both of them this one and the one that we have at home, just got a little bit more important.
00:51:00
Speaker
um Even for the division, they still have that damn draw, which still pisses me off. Just remember, just remember, the Bears control their own destiny. Okay, see, you only say, okay, I realized what pissed me off and I didn't get a chance to explain it. You know who says when they control their own destiny, when they're trying to get into the playoffs. I've never heard someone control say control their own destiny when they were third or fourth in the division or in the conference trying to get into first. That's what it is.
00:51:27
Speaker
When people say that, oh, you control your own destiny, that's when you're in the bubble of making the playoffs and then you need to win out and then all the other things need to happen. That's how I see it. It's whenever you're competing with other teams for an end goal and then you have the inside track for that goal, you control your own destiny.
00:51:47
Speaker
Agree to disagree. No matter what. Let us know in the comments. Agree to disagree on numbers, Miller. Agree to disagree on facts. That's what I'm basically saying. Yes. um Facts are Miller, by the way. No, the facts are not with Miller, but that's fine. All right. Let's get into a fantasy recap. Obviously, these is this is going to be a little bit limited just because of when we're recording this. This will be released on Monday where we still have a game. We don't know what might happen after that, but Boopin, lead us off. What are some of your biggest questions after week 13 in fantasy?
00:52:22
Speaker
Yeah, well, week 13 was in the books. um Again, we don't have the whole picture in front of us, but just looking at the bigger picture, i ah saw a couple things I wanted to bring to you guys and get your thoughts on it.
00:52:33
Speaker
First one was Lamar Jackson, right? Top three, top four drafted quarterback. Here's his is last three finishes. 6.72 fantasy point, 7.22 fantasy point, 7.54 fantasy point. seven point two two fancy point seven point five four fantasy point This is like one of the guys who you like plug in your lineup and you're probably better off that he's on your team than not.
00:52:54
Speaker
But this is concerning, right? Especially going into the playoffs. He does have some like easy matchups coming up against Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. But there's also New England in there and they finished the season with Green Bay.
00:53:06
Speaker
I wanted to bring it to you guys and see... If you have, some but people might have Lamar Jackson on their squad, right? Should they be concerned, like, looking to, like, possibly playing the matchups, benching him?
00:53:18
Speaker
What would you guys do? I think that's a really good question. But if I'm being honest, I can't bench him. I mean, you you used a probably a fourth-round pick, maybe a third-round pick on him to be your franchise guy. Could you imagine, down the stretch, if you're at a position where you could potentially get in the playoffs and you're going to bench him for...
00:53:39
Speaker
Sam Darnold and Lamar goes off everybody's hypothesizing that he's still dealing with his injuries causing issues but like I don't know I just have a really tough time benching a player of that stature at this point when you want to get into the promised land hey I agree I mean the question comes to who is that backup quarterback that you think can get you more points than Lamar Jackson and that That statement alone is very small. Miller said Sam Darnold. Some might even say Caleb at this point, too. could like He's not going to be on your waiver wire.
00:54:10
Speaker
But that's what I'm saying. guys that are but even But even not waiver, like who would you have on your bench right now with Lamar? Like maybe Jordan Love before last week. Like some of those players. that of like I feel like Jordan Love is still a decent fantasy starter.
00:54:24
Speaker
yeah he hast i don't know if it's hit or miss. Yeah, yeah but um I mean, I would say you would start him more than put him on your bench. Yeah. yeah like um i I think I'm with Miller a little bit here. like I think he's hurt, and Ravens needed to win, right? like after like They were in a really deep hole. Well, no. Sorry to cut you off. I didn't think they needed to. It was more Cincinnati needed to win to get their their playoff. like I think it was more pressure on Cincinnati than Baltimore at this point. Wait, wait, wait. Why why is that?
00:54:54
Speaker
What do you mean? why Why did Cincinnati need to win more than Baltimore did? to get their playoffs percentages up? Is it because Baltimore controls their own destiny? No, obviously not. You guys are f***ing dumb.
00:55:07
Speaker
No, so they were two at five when they were like all set and done, and they basically needed to win out to even have a shout-out playoffs. That's where we were a couple games ago. They were like four in a row, whatever. So they were on the right track. But my my my genuine question is because he's on the injury report every week, he misses a couple of practices, toe, knee, whatever he has got going on.
00:55:27
Speaker
So like my genuine question is if they were not in that hole, would he play like that? That's my genuine question. And that is a very different question than performance. if If Baltimore is like, listen, we don't want you getting hurt. We don't have a chance of making the playoffs and we're going to bench you. that is That obviously will have more fantasy implications than anything else.
00:55:48
Speaker
No, but say they have not benched him. Remember against the Bears, he was not on the injury report and suddenly he didn't play. Like, I think that's what's happening. They are just like, there's a lot happening behind the scenes. They are not letting us and I think he's pushing to play. I'm not saying the team is pushing him to play. No, but I guess at that point, that's just mismanagement. And that's not even on him. That's just more on what the team wants to do. So I don't even know if I could put that on on Lamar. That's just no bad on Baltimore. No, that's just a fact. But the question is, like would would you be comfortable starting him in the playoffs in the next couple matches? if if it was If this continued to happen, then no.
00:56:26
Speaker
Because it's two last minute. But i don't it's only happened once, so I can't... three times Three times. Three times, he's got under seven, like seven, eight points. um eight points Okay, I'm sorry.
00:56:37
Speaker
We're talking two different things. I'm saying if Baltimore miss is mishandling his injury... to the point where he's not playing and it's not being announced ah like accordingly.
00:56:48
Speaker
that If that that continues to happen, then you cannot run the risk of having someone that might not even play on your starter. That's what I'm saying. If we're talking about points and you need quarterback points, you have to ask yourself, like Miller said, is Sam Darnold the guy that can at least get you double what has been for the last three weeks for Lamar Jackson?
00:57:10
Speaker
And then you also have to look at schedules too. Like, is there a matchup for him? But what I'm trying to say is if Baltimore is mismanaging how they're handling his injuries and then they announced like, all he was participating. Oh, but we're going to sit him.
00:57:23
Speaker
Just get another quarterback. That's already sorry enough for me to want to get off of him. Yeah, I think that's the hard part. They probably won't bet Jim. He'll probably start hurt and probably end up hurting your team. So plan accordingly.
00:57:36
Speaker
Another similar situation likely, Imika Igbuka, who was like, God, a stud in the first half of the season, was carrying your team with all the injuries that the Buccaneers had going on. Here's his last three finishes.
00:57:49
Speaker
Four points, 3.2 points, and 4.2 points. points again under five in all three games after a start of a season i think this coincides with baker's injury coincides with godwin coming back right there's a couple other things happening on the team too similar pro thing is he uh you know put in your lineup and forget it are you looking are these guys like concerned maybe play some matchups i think um that mike Mike Evans is supposed to come back soon as well. Just trying to get your um your concern meter on and make out Iqbukai as well. Miller, would you say that Tampa has a soft schedule coming up? well i can give you I can give you their schedule right now and you can tell me if it's soft.
00:58:29
Speaker
I got lined up too. Yeah. yeah it's a Next opponent's going to be At home in New Orleans, at home at Atlanta, at Carolina, at Miami, at home at Carolina.
00:58:41
Speaker
That seems pretty soft for the most part. I don't know. I have him. He's going to be in my lineup. My wide receivers aren't great. I drafted Brian Thomas, so I trust him over Brian Thomas right now.
00:58:52
Speaker
But I think a lot of it coincides with Baker, to be honest. Baker hasn't been that good. They are getting Bucky back, which is going to probably snake some more touchdowns. But realistically, if you look at Baker's numbers, it just hasn't been there the last few weeks. I would keep him.
00:59:05
Speaker
I mean, the schedule is good enough for me. Unless you have, again, same thing with the Lamar Jackson. If you have someone that you think will get you more based on that, then...
00:59:17
Speaker
Such a great answer. like you have someone that you think is better, then change it. but from points From a points perspective, not the player. If you think someone's going to get you more points, then you're getting into playoffs at this point. You have to make that great answer. It's not even answered Boopies' question.
00:59:32
Speaker
What do you mean? Yes, it is. you keep I said keep him in. No, I feel his point. It's like temporary expectations. He's not going to blow the lid off properly. ah probably mean that's his That's who you have.
00:59:42
Speaker
That's why you have him to blow the lid because he is that deep threat. Mike Evans isn't going to come back and be that deep threat. I mean, Godwin today was like pretty involved in the game today. So like just looking at that. He's not a deep threat.
00:59:54
Speaker
He's not. He's not. But... No, Mecca is that guy that can get past, get a blow the top off the defense and get a 50, 60 yard touchdown throw. Yeah. like about Baker's just not hitting those.
01:00:05
Speaker
Yeah. Maybe higher ceiling, um you know, on his work. But like I'm thinking one receiver to possibly three flex play is what I'm keeping it at. So temporary expectations is what I'm keeping, but I don't have any of my teams. So it's probably advice for other people.
01:00:21
Speaker
Uh, Fantasy-wise, again, it's pretty early in the week, but I wanted to take the time to kind of like list some injuries so you guys can follow accordingly, make your way more of picks, whatever you got to do.
01:00:32
Speaker
um Probably the top one out there is Kyron Williams checked out of the game with an ankle issue. um i And Blake Corum was already very involved in today's game, as Miller will tell you from personal experience. Keep an eye out on that.
01:00:48
Speaker
He's probably worth it. fine. He came back into the game and then actually produced. He's fine. Something to monitor. um Los Angeles quarterback Justin Herbert actually is non-throwing hand, will require surgery. He's having surgery tomorrow, supposedly.
01:01:06
Speaker
um Keep an eye out. i don't No one said he was missing time or anything like that, but um but injury, like surgery during the season is pretty... interesting to hear Cardinals wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. again left with a heel injury he just came back I have him on my team um I need him badly but didn't do much today so again you know he could be playing him i I did today, and and I paid the price for it. So, he's, man, Brissette looks for him.
01:01:39
Speaker
that That's the best part about it. I think Brissette wants him to succeed. He's just not been healthy this year. If he's fully healthy, I think he'll have a really good year in Brissette. Reminds me of old school Fitzgerald, almost. Like, you know, like, really good potential.
01:01:53
Speaker
You know, quarterback is looking for him, but it hasn't been healthy so far. Yeah, I have to figure out. I'm in the same boat as you. I have him in one of my leagues, but I'm benching Justin Jefferson for anybody. but Hey, Justin Jefferson probably had negative games most of today's game. Yeah, that guy. Aaron Jones left today's game with an injury.
01:02:17
Speaker
Again, he he's old, he gets hurt all the time, but he usually plays through a lot. So keep an eye out. Mason is probably worth mentioning. Some people might have dropped him because, you know, his role was diminishing.
01:02:28
Speaker
Someone to keep an eye for. Probably the biggest one is Amandrassian Brown, hurt Thanksgiving. He's said to be week to week. um You know, Tesla had a good touchdown.
01:02:39
Speaker
Freaking Jameson Williams was eating on Thanksgiving. Jameson's probably on someone's team, but Tesla might be available. Maybe one of the tight ends are available. Something to look out for. Even Montgomery had a good game after. You know, Lions, there's definitely opportunity there.
01:02:55
Speaker
and They'll be hungry. they They need to win a lot of games, so they'll be playing angry in the rest of the season. That's all I had. Only even the week, boys. All right. Boys, with that, it's the end of our episode.
01:03:06
Speaker
This has been a hell of a season. I kind of don't know where we're going go from here, but let's fucking get a win against Green Bay. Just be happy. Just be excited that we're the best team in the NFC as of right now, even though we're tied with Seattle. But you know what? That doesn't matter.
01:03:25
Speaker
Because we're better against NFC. Our conference is better than against the NFC than their races. First time since 2018, we'll have a winning season.
01:03:36
Speaker
You know? So it's like crazy. Crazy to hear. Let's enjoy this, right? Like, you know, it's been a long time coming. Yes, there are some opportunities on this team.
01:03:47
Speaker
But fuck it. There's opportunities everywhere. Despite of that, we're winning. So props to the team. Props. Props to everybody. Thank you for listening.
01:03:58
Speaker
We are actually giving positivity in the podcast for the first time ever. thank you guys so much for watching. Please like and subscribe, share with everyone. We're going to not be in misery.
01:04:10
Speaker
We're going keep winning. Bear down. Thank you for joining us. Bye-bye.