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Season 3 - Episode 8 - We Did It
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The boys are back with a special guest to discuss the first Bears game of the season. The is a essance of positivity in the aire. But does it continue.
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Introduction and Setup
00:00:14
Trio of Positivity
god. god
00:00:18
Mike
Welcome to the Trio of Positivity podcast. We appreciate you joining us today on this beautiful, beautiful day. As you can see, we have a guest with us today. Everybody say hello to Ben.
00:00:31
Mike
We appreciate you coming on and joining us. We are a short one member of the trio. He is currently... off on vacation with the family. We wish you the best on vacation, Boobin.
00:00:44
Mike
And we hope to talk to you soon about the positivity going on in Bears land over here. Oh, hell yes. I am going to be doing the hosting today for some reason.
00:00:56
Mike
Well, the reason is because I didn't finish my chug, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah But it's fine. I'll accept it. I'll accept it. But Not gonna do any of the social bullshit because I'm hosting, so hey, motherfucking yeah!
00:01:08
Mike
Boys, how are we doing today?
00:01:12
Trio of Positivity
So no introductions. No one knows who the fuck you are who I am, but we know who Ben is. Alright. Good job, host.
00:01:18
Mike
fine.
00:01:19
Ben
If they don't know who you are by now, this this this episode isn't going to get any better.
00:01:25
Trio of Positivity
He says hosting is easy.
00:01:25
Mike
Not wrong.
00:01:29
Ben
Gentlemen, a winning Monday. When was the last time we said that?
NFL Week Highlights
00:01:34
Ben
Against the Packers. So this is two excellent winning episodes ah that I've seen in a row.
00:01:36
Trio of Positivity
Against the Packers.
00:01:41
Mike
and okay Absolutely, man. Absolutely. we have We're two and two in 2025, and that's all that matters.
00:01:49
Mike
Oh, yeah.
00:01:50
Trio of Positivity
I
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Mike
we Yeah, that's true. Dumbass, yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:01:54
Trio of Positivity
and don't know if that's something to be proud of, but okay.
00:01:54
Mike
God.
00:01:56
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
00:01:57
Ben
I'll take it. I'll fucking take it. Absolutely. It's in Lambo, dude? Come on, man.
00:02:02
Mike
Chris, you're never going to be proud of this team unless they win a Super Bowl. So that's fine. That's fine with that. But we appreciate everybody being here. um I don't know. I was not ready for this.
00:02:12
Mike
Honestly, I just figured I'd beat your ass in Rochambeau again.
00:02:13
Trio of Positivity
a
00:02:15
Mike
but But here we go. Let's jump into the podcast like we always like to start out. Let's go over our week three reactions to the NFL as a whole before diving into the Bears.
00:02:28
Mike
Chris, do would you like to start?
00:02:32
Trio of Positivity
um A lot of blocked kicks. That the best block, I think, came from the Jets and they still lost. um But there was a lot of block kicks. So a lot of special teams kind of took over.
00:02:49
Trio of Positivity
And what is it? The witching hour? It was just like a block, a field goal block or a field goal miss. And then going into the other way for leading into touchdown. It was a great it was a great afternoon slate of games.
00:03:01
Ben
A lot less scoring this week points-wise, but four block kicks in one week, I don't think I've ever seen that that many in one week, especially three in the last minute or two minutes of each game.
00:03:14
Ben
I thought the – what was the big boy, the Eagles block?
00:03:17
Mike
Eagles. I was going to say that the Eagles block was pretty impressive.
00:03:18
Ben
Oh, man. He blocked and scooped and scored that, but do you know why, how he got that ball?
00:03:22
Mike
Yeah.
00:03:26
Ben
the The gunner that was supposed to dive and block the ball – went and nailed the kicker so the kicker couldn't recover it that's why davis was able to pick it up and score so that was that that was my favorite one
00:03:38
Mike
Yeah, that was pretty cool. And for all the betters out there, I believe that covered the spread too.
00:03:42
Ben
it did they were given only three and a half points so if they would have made the field goal or or even blocked it and not got any points uh the rams guys would have won but suckers
00:03:49
Mike
more yeah oh Vegas wins again.
00:03:53
Trio of Positivity
um Speaking of of winning, ah only three teams as of right now ah were away winners. Everything else was a home win, which I... It's been a while since I've kind of seen it be like a home field advantage.
00:04:11
Mike
Thanks for stealing my reaction. i appreciate it, but it's fine.
00:04:14
Trio of Positivity
Oh, yeah, no one cares. Yeah. The only reason I brought that up is because of how many games were actually close in the very last minute. like The Packers were supposed to win. Rams were supposed to win.
00:04:26
Trio of Positivity
ah the Jets were supposed to win. And all of that turned to shit. Oh, and the 49ers actually won it at the end, too.
00:04:31
Ben
Oh, the Jets. The Jets want. They blocked that kick.
00:04:34
Mike
The Jets lost.
00:04:34
Trio of Positivity
Jets lost.
00:04:36
Mike
The Jets lost.
00:04:37
Trio of Positivity
Jets lost.
00:04:37
Ben
After the blocked field goal?
00:04:39
Mike
Yeah.
00:04:39
Trio of Positivity
Yes.
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Ben
Oh, God.
00:04:39
Mike
this
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Ben
I didn't watch that game, so that's and that's incredible.
00:04:41
Mike
yeah Yeah, they blocked the field goal and then and then Mayfield came down and nailed the Yeah.
00:04:41
Trio of Positivity
you did
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Trio of Positivity
madete MVP Mayfield, brother.
00:04:48
Ben
Wow.
00:04:49
Mike
He's looking so good, man.
00:04:49
Ben
Wow.
00:04:50
Mike
He's looked so good. But yeah, he he drove him back for the game-winning field goal kick.
00:04:58
Mike
Get it done, man.
00:04:58
Ben
Yeah, but but evan's Evans got hurt, so I don't give a shit about the Bucs anymore. So, them.
00:05:05
Mike
That's true.
00:05:05
Ben
bastard
00:05:06
Mike
That's true. That's why you have need to have a Buka on your and team. Makes everything all right.
00:05:10
Ben
a
00:05:12
Mike
All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's jump into the heart of this before I get evil-eyed from Chris for this going too long, because for all of you that know the opinions on the other side of the camera from me, it's going to be negative, positive.
00:05:26
Trio of Positivity
You don't know this.
00:05:28
Ben
I think you're going to...
00:05:28
Mike
Negatory, positive.
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Trio of Positivity
You don't know this.
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Ben
thought you going to say pository and I was going to be like...
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Mike
Cuphead.
00:05:33
Ben
oh
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Trio of Positivity
Yeah, that's the wrong one. But let's just, we we'll get to the we'll get to the point, we'll get to the point where everyone predicted a loss.
00:05:35
Mike
I know. Cup half empty. Cup half full.
00:05:43
Trio of Positivity
So go ahead, continue.
Bears' Key Game Moments
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Mike
All right. For those of you that don't know, the Chicago Bears played the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday. And just to give a brief, brief overview before diving into the good stuff, the Bears pulled out their first victory of the season, the first victory for Ben Johnson, by the score of a healthy 31-14. Caleb Williams shining for the day, putting up 298. Fucking two yards short.
00:06:13
Ben
Loser! loser
00:06:15
Mike
298 yards, four touchdowns against this weak-ass Cowboys defense. The running back situation we'll get to in a moment, but the defense, along with Caleb Williams, kind of stole the show.
00:06:29
Mike
The defense turning getting four turnovers against the Cowboys, as well as two sacks, which is very much uncharacteristic of this Chicago Bears. The rookies kind of stole the show a little bit um with Luther Burden.
00:06:43
Mike
um coming away with a huge game 101 yards and a TD but before we dive into everything here what are your guys's biggest takeaways so far with this beautiful beautiful victory of the Bears
00:06:55
Ben
Well, the defense screwed my over, so I'm a little upset with them. But four takeaways? I mean, hell yeah. Two takeaways is a good game.
00:07:06
Ben
You get four against a pretty powerful offense, minus CeeDee Lamb. Obviously, that that killed the Cowboys. But the defense, man, absolutely surprised everybody. Everyone thought, with all the injuries and everything going down, that they were just going to get steamrolled. But They look good, man.
00:07:25
Ben
They look sharp, except the pass rush.
00:07:28
Mike
Two sacks. Give him a break.
00:07:30
Ben
Back, back, yeah, okay, at the end of the game, two sacks, fine.
00:07:34
Mike
No, wasn't at the end of the game, was it?
00:07:36
Ben
One of them was, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:38
Mike
Well, probably Montez Sweats was because I was like, he had a sack. I don't remember seeing that shit.
00:07:42
Ben
Although, I will say the Grady Jarrett sack should have counted. That was some... Or was it a sack or did he just hit him while he threw it? While he was getting blocked down low, he fell into Dak's knee and they called him for hitting him low.
00:07:52
Mike
oh Of course. Yeah, of course.
00:07:54
Ben
at Such a horseshit call. Horrible, horrible call.
00:07:56
Mike
Welcome to the NFL. Welcome to the NFL.
00:07:59
Ben
Yeah. Chris?
00:08:03
Trio of Positivity
um I will say that first drive was awful.
00:08:08
Ben
Oh...
00:08:08
Mike
Oh my god, of course he starts with a second shit!
00:08:09
Trio of Positivity
That first drive was awful. Now, the only reason I bring this up is because Miller likes to go all like, oh, want to be all positivity. Do I really want to read what he wrote to the group chat?
00:08:22
Ben
Ha ha ha ha.
00:08:22
Trio of Positivity
You know what? I will read it. He was ready to stop watching at that point.
00:08:24
Ben
Ha ha ha.
00:08:28
Mike
Well, it was more of a play on words for Ben, but yes.
00:08:30
Trio of Positivity
Right. Anyway, no one cares. But um This was a great game. It was a great overall win. i think it's been a long time since we've been able to say that, that it's an overall great win.
00:08:43
Trio of Positivity
It wasn't that the defense did something or it wasn't that the ah while the offense never really did anything, but it was more along the lines of like a great team win. So it was very great. It was great to see.
00:08:55
Mike
Absolutely. Absolutely. I think we always like to start with some key plays of the game. And I think one of the biggest plays, momentum Turner at the beginning of the game, call it what you will, but that Stevenson play where Javante Williams is running down the sideline.
00:09:11
Mike
Stevenson, who has been really
00:09:14
Ben
awful
00:09:15
Mike
Hated. Awful. Ever since the Washington game last year, finally had a statement game against the Cowboys. And it started from the get-go.
00:09:26
Mike
Running up behind Javante and basically just grabbing the ball out from under him. And turning getting that first turnover, kind of swinging the momentum and giving our offense the ball back, in which case we scored a ah ah so perfect pass to Rome down the sidelines. But that first Stevenson play was really key to kind of getting this game going the Bears' direction.
00:09:48
Ben
Yep. And the only offense the the Cowboys scored a touchdown on was that penalty drive where, you know, they called that third down on Grady Jarrett to give him the first down in the red zone. And other than that, they didn't score a touchdown.
00:10:02
Ben
So the defense really, really stepped up.
00:10:06
Trio of Positivity
the one The one thing I wanted to say about the Cowboys, because I know we're going to be more bear-centric here, given the fact.
00:10:06
Mike
Well, I mean...
00:10:15
Trio of Positivity
Ferguson looked really good. The tight end for Dallas, that...
00:10:18
Ben
Wisconsin baby.
00:10:20
Trio of Positivity
but I got to say, that is something that I wish we could say about our tight ends. Granted, we did get a couple good ones, but it got to a point where... He was open all the time.
00:10:32
Trio of Positivity
I don't know what to say. He had 13 receptions.
00:10:33
Mike
i mean
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Trio of Positivity
it was It was a great great day for him. I guess that's happens when you lose your number one whiteout, which you obviously don't want to see. um
00:10:41
Mike
You lose your number one wide out.
00:10:41
Trio of Positivity
I think it was...
00:10:43
Mike
The Bears defense is playing back to avoid the big play.
00:10:46
Trio of Positivity
And listen, not only that, we got to got to talk about the Dallas Cowboys owner.
00:10:46
Mike
I mean, they're giving him the flat in the middle.
00:10:54
Trio of Positivity
Okay? Listen, he wanted to stop the run.
00:10:59
Mike
He did, technically. They did a pretty good job, I guess.
00:11:01
Trio of Positivity
Technically, he did. He stopped the run.
00:11:02
Mike
Yeah. You know what? You know what?
00:11:03
Trio of Positivity
Swift was horrible.
00:11:04
Mike
This defense, though, I mean, if you think about the Dallas cow Cowboy defense, like, I think you can make a case that they're one superstar away from being ah suit in the Super Bowl.
00:11:12
Trio of Positivity
Almost. Oh, my God. Imagine.
00:11:15
Mike
If they had one key superstar, they they would be like Super Bowl caliber.
00:11:15
Trio of Positivity
Imagine.
00:11:15
Ben
a
00:11:20
Mike
Don't you think?
00:11:20
Trio of Positivity
Okay. and i In all seriousness,
00:11:21
Ben
Probably an edge rusher, you know.
00:11:23
Trio of Positivity
In all seriousness, no.
00:11:23
Mike
ah Like, seriously.
00:11:25
Trio of Positivity
Hold on. In all seriousness, if they had Parsons on this team, given how the defense looked, you might be... I know we're we're kind of like bullshitting here.
00:11:37
Trio of Positivity
The defense would actually look kind of decent. I'm just saying.
00:11:40
Ben
i think that was it I think that was a huge mistake on the on the Cowboys part.
00:11:41
Mike
I disagree.
00:11:45
Ben
But, you know, we took advantage of it, so fuck them.
00:11:46
Trio of Positivity
I agree.
00:11:48
Trio of Positivity
Yep.
00:11:49
Mike
I don't know that one mc Parsons would have changed the outcome of this game.
00:11:54
Ben
Well, they didn't have like hardly any pressures.
00:11:55
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, they um zero sacks.
00:11:56
Ben
They didn't have any sacks, but the pressure rate was like the pressure rate was only like 8%.
00:11:58
Trio of Positivity
And it wasn't the O-line that was so great.
00:12:01
Ben
Yes, they were, though.
00:12:01
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:12:02
Ben
The pocket was there all game long.
00:12:02
Trio of Positivity
but
00:12:04
Mike
Yeah, the Paco was really good.
00:12:04
Trio of Positivity
yeah But when's the last time? Okay, but here's what I'm saying. In the previous games, and I don't want to get too far ahead. In the previous games, how many times have we seen Caleb like move out of the pocket? This was the one game where he actually stayed in the pocket the majority of the time.
00:12:16
Mike
because there was a pocket.
00:12:17
Ben
because it Because there was a pocket.
00:12:18
Trio of Positivity
Because there was no edge rusher.
00:12:19
Ben
That's our point.
00:12:20
Trio of Positivity
Let's be honest here. like let's be honest here
00:12:23
Mike
Yeah, okay. That defense was pretty fucking shitty.
00:12:24
Ben
Well, it was.
00:12:26
Mike
That's all I can say.
00:12:27
Trio of Positivity
It was.
00:12:27
Ben
It was.
00:12:27
Trio of Positivity
it was
00:12:27
Ben
But hey, oh we in the past, we have not taken advantage of bad defenses.
00:12:32
Trio of Positivity
Absolutely.
00:12:33
Ben
So i think I think it's a combo of a bad defense plus we played better than normal.
00:12:33
Trio of Positivity
Absolutely.
00:12:33
Mike
Yeah.
00:12:39
Mike
Oh, yeah absolutely.
00:12:39
Trio of Positivity
Learning.
00:12:39
Mike
Okay.
00:12:40
Trio of Positivity
Learning.
00:12:40
Mike
Moving on to probably the biggest play um of the game and the furthest pass in the NFL season was the beautiful flea flicker between.
00:12:53
Ben
Well,
00:12:54
Mike
and yeah, it wasn't very good from Devontae Smith.
00:12:55
Trio of Positivity
yeah let's let's Let's take it a step back.
00:12:56
Ben
the first half.
00:12:57
Mike
right. but did not have a good pass, but a perfect throw from Caleb hits Luther Burton, 62 yard air yards, perfect in star in stride.
00:12:59
Trio of Positivity
Take it step back here.
00:13:09
Mike
I was watching an interview where Caleb just, which is, I mean, it's kind of ominous, but just like, he's like Luther just run. can, I can throw it farther than you can run fast. Don't worry about I'll hit you. I'm just like, how well has that gone in the past?
00:13:24
Mike
But nonetheless, he hit him. Yeah. It didn't look the prettiest at the start, but at the end, i mean, Caleb just threw that split seconds, dude.
00:13:31
Trio of Positivity
I don't know.
00:13:32
Mike
I don't know how he got that off.
00:13:32
Trio of Positivity
i saw the replay. I saw the replay.
00:13:34
Ben
Incredible.
00:13:35
Trio of Positivity
I saw the replay three times. I don't know if he was anticipating the line to be further ahead before he tossed it back. Or I don't know if he got hit like his arm like got hit as he was releasing or could have been a combination of both.
00:13:51
Trio of Positivity
But I feel like maybe he was like, fuck, I went too far in.
00:13:55
Ben
I think it was the second one. I think it it did look like he got bumped a little bit, but it's it was still unbelievably bad.
00:13:58
Mike
Yeah, I think so.
00:14:02
Mike
Yeah, yeah.
00:14:02
Trio of Positivity
ah
00:14:02
Mike
It was so close to being a disaster, but it turned out to be beautiful...
00:14:05
Trio of Positivity
yeah We would not let that go. you know we would that would be
00:14:07
Ben
oh no, no. i' would be but That would be all I talked about.
00:14:09
Mike
we were we were We were already riding swift. like he was He had started the game horribly. It was just embarrassing, and it didn't improve much, but he made he at least connected there to get us ah our early touchdown to put us up 14.
00:14:16
Ben
Yeah.
00:14:24
Mike
um Was it 7 or 14?
00:14:25
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:26
Mike
Nothing. I think it 14.3.
00:14:27
Ben
Three.
00:14:27
Mike
Yeah, so...
00:14:29
Ben
it They had two field goals to start, right?
00:14:29
Mike
yeah so
00:14:31
Ben
And then had that one touchdown.
00:14:32
Mike
Oh, yeah, and then they had the touchdown and the two-point conversion. You're right. Yep, yep, yep.
00:14:35
Ben
Yeah.
00:14:36
Mike
So put us up early, which was which was nice. And then, obviously, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the play to seal it. the The perfect throw by Dak hits Pickens in the hands, and it bounces off his hands, and Tremaine Edmonds dives and gets that interception there to seal the game basically early in the fourth quarter.
00:14:58
Ben
Since 2023, what linebacker has the most interceptions in the NFL? Tremaine friggin Edmonds was seven.
00:15:10
Ben
Granted, two of them were yesterday, but I saw that set and I was like, all right, okay.
00:15:10
Trio of Positivity
wow
00:15:13
Mike
so Still, that's that's pretty good.
00:15:14
Ben
he That's pretty damn good.
00:15:16
Mike
i mean i mean, we remember going back to, I know you hate this conversation, but going back to Poles' decision on Roquan, the thing was they wanted a guy that was going to turn the ball over ah a little bit more because Roquan just doesn't do that that much.
00:15:30
Mike
So for the fact that he has seven interceptions, kind of get it done there. But I don't know.
00:15:35
Ben
Yep.
00:15:35
Mike
He he has not been too... too fabulous. He hasn't lived up to the reputation when we brought him in, that's for sure, but it's nice to see him have a big game, two interceptions, and lead this defense to a ah nice victory here.
00:15:48
Ben
I will say Sewell looked a lot better today too than he did those first two games.
00:15:53
Mike
It'll be interesting to see what happens with him when TJ Edwards comes back, if he ever comes back.
00:16:00
Ben
Yeah, well...
00:16:02
Mike
Tear. All right, let's move on to the player of the day. The quote-unquote offensive player of the week, maybe? Maybe?
00:16:09
Ben
I think he was already determined that for the the North at least.
00:16:11
Trio of Positivity
Well, it depends on how this, uh, on today's game.
00:16:14
Mike
Yeah, depends on how this... Yeah, you're you're right. It depends how the game was...
00:16:19
Ben
Lamar's already got, I think, three touchdowns already, so.
00:16:19
Trio of Positivity
Cause we gotta, we gotta shoot out brothers.
00:16:23
Mike
Well, it's almost over.
00:16:26
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:16:26
Mike
i think he'll still get it.
00:16:26
Trio of Positivity
so It's, it's 50, it's 52 points already combined. So.
00:16:32
Ben
Oh, he's only got two touchdowns, 206 yards so far for Lamar.
00:16:34
Mike
Yeah, Gibbs ah gibbs ah only has 48 yards and two TDs, so I think Caleb should get it, pending any craziness.
00:16:42
Ben
Yep.
00:16:42
Mike
um But Caleb put on a show, like we mentioned, 298 yards, four touchdowns, no turnovers, and more importantly, no sacks, which is very impressive for him.
00:16:54
Mike
Like I mentioned previously, the flea flicker longest pass in the NFL this season at 62 yards. um He still had some blips. He had some he started off rough like Chris...
00:17:05
Mike
mentioned missing missing Loveland in the flat
Caleb Williams' Performance Review
00:17:10
Mike
pretty wide open miss there but he doesn't get nervous don't worry it wasn't any nerves but yeah um we all know that I love me some Caleb Williams give me the feedback where did he struggle boys
00:17:23
Ben
All right, here we go. I think you'll really appreciate this one, Miller. All right, he had six bad throws all game long. I think he had four completely awful throws.
00:17:34
Ben
Two skipped in the dirt. Two went super high. Really, really like high school level throwing there. Then he had three holy shit throws. Like, goddamn, that was awesome.
00:17:48
Ben
And then I think he had eight or nine like other really, really good throws. But then didn't take a sack. Didn't throw the ball away. Didn't fumble. And he only got 298, so he's still a loser.
00:17:59
Ben
But I gave Caleb an A.
00:18:00
Mike
I'm still a loser.
00:18:01
Ben
I gave Caleb an A grade. I think his arm strength looked awesome this game. I think his accuracy was much improved over the last two weeks and even over last season in general. But I also think this was BJ's best play calling minus the six screen plays he called.
00:18:17
Mike
Yeah.
00:18:17
Trio of Positivity
We love the screen, apparently. I don't know why. It's different coaches that just seem to keep wanting to run it. I don't know.
00:18:22
Ben
Well, only...
00:18:22
Mike
I mean, go look at the the Detroit Lions. They run it like crazy, man.
00:18:26
Ben
Yeah, well, that's because they have a run game and you can get away with that kind of shit when you got ah run game because then the defense blitzes your run and you throw behind them.
00:18:27
Trio of Positivity
Right.
00:18:34
Ben
When you don't have established your run game well enough, screens don't work because the D doesn't penetrate so far. That's what she said.
00:18:41
Trio of Positivity
I was about to say that's a Madden reference, if anyone knows one.
00:18:42
Ben
But yeah,
00:18:45
Ben
I think I gave him an A overall for the game. I thought he played really well. Definitely his best game so far.
00:18:51
Trio of Positivity
um I have a question for you, boys, because I actually did research.
00:18:54
Mike
Yeah, bullshit.
00:18:55
Trio of Positivity
the ah The research was listening to AM radio on the way to school today.
00:19:00
Mike
Yeah, baby, let's go.
00:19:02
Trio of Positivity
um i want to ask this before I give my point. Was the play calling the same or different um minus the flea flicker?
00:19:14
Trio of Positivity
Was the play calling the same as last week?
00:19:18
Ben
No.
00:19:20
Mike
No, i don't think it was. I think it was a I don't...
00:19:22
Trio of Positivity
So I'm of the mindset that it was the same play calling in the same, in the sense that it was safe, except for the flea flicker. I don't know if that was on purpose.
00:19:33
Trio of Positivity
However, after listening to some of the hosts on radio, they actually saw that as a good thing that you have consistency coming from one week to the other, when it comes to the play calling to get him used to ah understanding what's happening now.
00:19:49
Ben
they
00:19:49
Mike
Well, when you say, see, here's the thing, though. We talked about it last week. I like to, so the person that I listened to, ah he talked about the fact that we ran the same play three or four times last week. I don't remember seeing the same play ran multiple for that extent.
00:20:08
Mike
It's a little more safer play calling. I thought there were a little more variety in the calls. I thought there was a little more movement and ah in and whatnot. um I don't know if I'm wrong on that, but I didn't seem as safe as it was last week.
00:20:17
Trio of Positivity
So, so,
00:20:22
Trio of Positivity
So the reason that I say safe is because there was two callers that actually called it out. um and the
00:20:28
Mike
Awesome. It's not even the people that actually...
00:20:29
Trio of Positivity
And the host... Right. And the host were kind of like, okay, you might be onto something. um Even though he skipped a couple throws, there was a couple bad throws. Those throws were in line with the same stuff that he was doing last week, where you want to have him kind of get the completions.
00:20:46
Trio of Positivity
You want to make sure that the timing is there. Like there's a lot of steps, especially when he's running this ah offense, the coach being right. o Excuse me. So what was said was, Even though we're going to criticize all of the throws on the ground and all of that stuff, those are the layup throws.
00:21:01
Trio of Positivity
We want him to hit the layup throws more often than him hitting the home run throws.
00:21:07
Trio of Positivity
So until we see consistency, we' we'll be able to kind of judge ah accordingly. Granted, he still had a great game. But what they were trying to say, and i'm doing I'm paraphrasing, of course, was that the play calling was meant to be easy throws for him to make completions off.
00:21:07
Mike
Thank you.
00:21:24
Trio of Positivity
which last week they tried to do that. They tried to kind of give him a shorter playbook or they try to get him something where he was much more comfortable with. And then you kind of saw the progression with this week, which.
00:21:34
Ben
Well, what I'll say against that is the defenses they played were different. The Lions do a lot different.
00:21:40
Trio of Positivity
Of course.
00:21:42
Ben
So the way they attack the Cowboys is the Cowboys played a lot more zone. So you have those those outs or those flag routes that you're just throwing to an area, not a man beater.
00:21:46
Trio of Positivity
Yes. Yes.
00:21:53
Ben
And the Lions play a lot of man. So you're So saying that it was the same play call is I would say incorrect because they had to plan for more zone coverage because we all know Iberflus.
00:22:04
Ben
He ran a shit ton of zone, right? So we knew that going in.
00:22:06
Mike
Yeah.
00:22:07
Ben
So the play calls, sure, they might have been the same plays and safe throws, but yeah you're game planning against a zone and Caleb has to see, okay, well, safety is high on this one, so I'm going to throw the short ball.
00:22:17
Trio of Positivity
Right.
00:22:19
Ben
So I don't think it's the same play calling. He played against zone versus a man defense.
00:22:23
Trio of Positivity
So again, i was paraphrasing, but that's kind of the point that, you know, it's him realizing that and him being able to know like, hey, those layups that we need you to hit, it's for these kind of situations.
00:22:35
Trio of Positivity
So it was very much a learning curve. And you can kind of see the progression from what a great man coverage team or that how you're saying to how the timing of BJ's play calling, especially when it comes to zone.
00:22:46
Mike
Thank
00:22:48
Trio of Positivity
is very much important. The flea flicker to me is still an outlier. Great play. Don't get me wrong.
00:22:53
Ben
yeah
00:22:54
Trio of Positivity
We have to treat it as an outlier. um The one thing that did kind of open my eyes a little bit, and i don't know if it really cared for you guys, and I'm just going to make sure I say the right thing here, was that the Bears went eight and 14 in third downs, and only one went for once on fourth.
00:23:14
Ben
Well, they had a lot shorter third down average because the offensive penalties were a lot less this week.
00:23:14
Trio of Positivity
That to me kind of conservative.
00:23:20
Trio of Positivity
Well, they were still there, but yeah, you're right.
00:23:22
Ben
A lot less.
00:23:22
Mike
Yeah.
00:23:23
Ben
and We're not getting penalized 15 times a game like we were the first two weeks, right? So when you have third and six versus third and 15, you're going to convert more often.
00:23:34
Mike
Yeah, only 41 yards in penalties today are this yesterday, so it wasn't awful. and Going back to the throws that Ben was talking about, like there were two bad throws that I can specifically remember.
00:23:44
Mike
The first one was the first passing play to Loveland. Second one was a pretty bad one to Zacchaeus out in like the 10-yard line range, just setting up another one of your favorite plays, a wide receiver screen.
00:23:55
Mike
It looked like it could have been a touchdown. He basically skipped it to him.
00:23:58
Ben
Skipped it. Yep.
00:23:59
Mike
I mean, he did have a guy in his face, a little rushed. He wasn't able to get really good set. But the one thing I will say is there was one play in the game where it was a similar situation to the Zacchaeus play where the guy was in his face.
00:24:11
Mike
And this is where you see the growth, right? This is where you see the growth. And he stepped back on his back foot and threw it down to the flat to the tight end. And we were, I think it was a tight end. And we were able to get like 10, 15 yards out of that play.
00:24:23
Mike
It's just like, those are the things that he missed last week that he didn't miss this week.
00:24:26
Ben
Yep.
00:24:28
Trio of Positivity
Yep.
00:24:28
Ben
Yep.
00:24:28
Mike
So it's that being able to use that short play because the beauty, I don't know, man, I'm not as into it as you guys are with the play design and all that. I've tried to get better, but it's just like,
00:24:40
Mike
I've never seen a play caller like this where there's always an out for the quarterback. Like whenever he's set, when he's getting the ball, when he's going, there's always a, oh, if this guy doesn't even get blocked, he still has a up throw to throw.
00:24:56
Mike
And if he doesn't throw it, that's on the quarterback.
00:24:56
Ben
Yep. Yep.
00:24:58
Trio of Positivity
but see But that goes back.
00:24:58
Mike
Just like we've never seen that type of play calling in Chicago, at least that I can remember.
00:25:02
Trio of Positivity
But that goes back to what we were saying before about him being in the pocket. Like you can tell he's um almost like embracing of like wasting the very last second possible to be in that pocket.
00:25:13
Trio of Positivity
We saw it the last couple of games to where.
00:25:14
Ben
I mean, he looked way more comfortable yesterday.
00:25:16
Trio of Positivity
Yes, very much.
00:25:17
Ben
And and and that was that was the growth that i I appreciated the most was, sure, he had some inaccuracies, but he stuck in that pocket, well, because it was there, but also...
00:25:20
Trio of Positivity
Yes.
00:25:26
Trio of Positivity
He had the inaccuracies in the pocket, which is I'll take any any given day because you can learn from that.
00:25:30
Ben
Right. Yeah. Yeah, he still has to work on those, like...
00:25:35
Mike
Mm-hmm.
00:25:36
Ben
what is it, eight-yard flag routes where they hit the eight-yard mark and then bolt toward the sideline. He missed two of those throws pretty badly. One was to Adunze, and I think the other one was to Zaccheaus. But but ah he cleans those up.
00:25:51
Ben
Every NFL quarterback can make those throws. Wide-open receiver, dropping it in between the safety and the corner. You got to hit those easy throws.
00:25:59
Trio of Positivity
um Before we get away from this, and I think we are going to talk a little bit about the offense and not just Caleb. I don't know if you want to just go straight to the offense Miller.
00:25:59
Mike
yeah
00:26:08
Mike
Not yet.
00:26:09
Trio of Positivity
Not yet. Okay, go ahead
00:26:10
Ben
okay
00:26:11
Mike
ah
00:26:11
Ben
He's got a little bit more groveling to do.
00:26:13
Mike
and got a little bit more.
00:26:13
Trio of Positivity
ahead. Okay.
00:26:14
Mike
i got a little bit more. This is my, this is my episode, man. I brought on my two haters.
00:26:18
Ben
Go on.
00:26:19
Mike
I brought on my two haters.
00:26:20
Ben
ah He earned it.
00:26:20
Mike
And one of the things, one of the things that I've been hearing a lot lately is improvement. Let's see improvement. Well, he's not improving. but Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:26:33
Mike
Well, Let's talk about improvement, huh? We all watched him last year. What were they? 5-12? One of those fucking things. Bad year. You know what an offseason does? It changes the world. You know what a play a good play caller does? Changes the world. So let's talk about improvement.
00:26:51
Mike
Pretty fucking false, a.k.a. PFF, has Caleb graded as an 80.1 in 2025. The ninth best quarterback in the league from PFF.
00:27:04
Mike
Through three games, we've kind of already taught covered it, 715 passing yards. And for all of you out there wondering, yes, he is on pace for 4,000 yards.
00:27:14
Mike
Seven touchdowns for all of those people.
00:27:15
Trio of Positivity
Knock on wood.
00:27:17
Mike
wondering, yes, he's on pace for 40 touchdowns, one interception.
00:27:20
Trio of Positivity
Knock on wood.
00:27:21
Ben
Thank you.
00:27:22
Mike
He's got a little lower than the goal set at a 63.4 completion percentage with a quarterback rating of 107.59 this year. So that is impressive. Now, getting into the crux of the improvement section of this show,
00:27:37
Mike
Throws completed 20-plus yards down the field. We talked about it. Ben's mentioned it. Chris yells it all the time. Let's see the deep ball. Can he hit the deep ball? Last year, he was at a 26.7% connection rate.
00:27:51
Mike
This year, smaller sample size, 50% connection rate. So he's basically doubled that in one year.
00:27:55
Trio of Positivity
Now, one second.
00:27:57
Ben
I mean, he was he was good on that game, dude. You got to give him props. It was like, what, three of four?
00:28:00
Trio of Positivity
Now, hold on.
00:28:02
Ben
Three of four that game over 20 yards?
00:28:04
Mike
and Something like that, yeah.
00:28:04
Trio of Positivity
oh Hold on one second now, brother.
00:28:06
Ben
yeah
00:28:08
Trio of Positivity
Now, see, you can't be throwing stats like that. What is he on pace to throw for 20 plus yards?
00:28:16
Ben
Yeah. 50% if he keeps his average.
00:28:17
Mike
He's at 50%.
00:28:17
Ben
Yeah.
00:28:18
Trio of Positivity
No. How many attempts? Attempts.
00:28:18
Mike
So we played three games at 14.
00:28:22
Mike
So he's at 14 over three games. So times that by six.
00:28:24
Trio of Positivity
Uh-huh. Yeah.
00:28:26
Mike
So he's at 60, 20, 84.
00:28:27
Ben
here You're looking at about five about five.
00:28:28
Mike
What are
00:28:30
Trio of Positivity
So almost.
00:28:31
Ben
About five a game on average. So if he hits three of those, that's a good progression.
00:28:33
Trio of Positivity
So almost.
00:28:37
Ben
progression
00:28:39
Trio of Positivity
There you go. Okay. Go ahead.
00:28:40
Mike
what are you what are you getting at? He's shooting 50%, dude. If you want us to multiply it by fucking 60, equal 18 game.
00:28:47
Trio of Positivity
No, what I was saying is, what I was trying to say is that if he's at 14 right now, three games in, and you're saying that he threw 75 for the year, he's going to explode those attempt numbers. So that number is going to still be higher.
00:29:00
Mike
Yes, and if he continues the pace of 50%, it's going to be even better. It's still going to be 50%. The 50% keeps transition.
00:29:06
Trio of Positivity
Right, but it's the Bears. it's probably It's probably not. So I'm just letting you know, you might get heartbreak here.
00:29:09
Mike
Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Back to that. Pressure to sack ratio moving, continuing down that improvement record. 2024, Caleb had a 28.2% pressure to sack ratio.
00:29:22
Ben
Oof.
00:29:24
Mike
This year in 2025, he's shooting a 15.8%.
00:29:29
Trio of Positivity
Okay, so for the...
00:29:29
Mike
So he almost cut that number in half. And yes, Chris, if this continues throughout the season, it will still be 15.8%.
00:29:36
Trio of Positivity
Glad you brought that up. Hey, can you explain to Ben what exactly is pressure to sack?
00:29:44
Mike
It's when the pressure comes and how often they actually succeed on sacking the quarterback when the pressure comes.
00:29:50
Trio of Positivity
So how is this relevant to Caleb and not to just the ah offense as a whole?
00:29:56
Ben
Well, if you think...
00:29:56
Mike
I'm not saying it's just it's just small improvements.
00:29:58
Trio of Positivity
You literally have it under the Caleb section.
00:30:00
Mike
It's improvements, Chris. It's getting the ball out quicker.
00:30:02
Trio of Positivity
a
00:30:03
Mike
It's better offensive line play.
00:30:04
Ben
Well, see, but miller Miller, he's not getting the ball out quicker, but he also doesn't have to because now he has a pocket.
00:30:05
Mike
It's a collective improvement.
00:30:11
Trio of Positivity
Exactly.
00:30:13
Ben
So the pressure to sack ratio being lower is actually even more impressive because he's holding the ball longer. So I actually think Miller's right on this one. It's actually better looking for Caleb than it is...
00:30:25
Ben
the ah ah last year.
00:30:25
Trio of Positivity
See, I think it's better on the offense as a whole.
00:30:28
Ben
Well, it It is, for sure, but...
00:30:30
Trio of Positivity
just Just being a team player.
00:30:32
Mike
I mean, let's be let's be realistic.
00:30:32
Trio of Positivity
There is no I in team. There's no I in team.
00:30:33
Mike
we talk
00:30:34
Trio of Positivity
There's no I in team.
00:30:34
Mike
we talked We talked last year. You guys talked more than I did. But we talked last year. He's got, what, he have 66 sacks. And we said half of those can probably be attributed to Caleb Williams.
00:30:46
Mike
So, I mean, if you're using that same logic, like it went down, yeah he is having to do something to it. it decreased the ratio as much as he is.
00:30:57
Mike
So if he's still holding onto the ball as much as he was last year, then that ratio would still be higher. But the fact is the offensive line is better. talked about that, but he's also getting the ball out when he needs to, he's being able to use the guys in the flat.
00:31:08
Ben
yeah
00:31:10
Mike
He knows where the offense kind of, the ah offense makes a little more sense to him. He's able to get the ga ball quicker, which is a loss lower in the ratio. Obviously it's a collective hole is the offense, but.
00:31:18
Ben
i think I think that's the major point. is he's He's actually progressing to the reads he needs to make to make a throw.
00:31:27
Mike
We'll get there.
00:31:27
Ben
Regardless if it's a completion or not, he's making the throw when it needs to be made. and One interception, I mean, he's making the right throws. Sometimes those throws suck and sail or bounce, but a lot of times, especially, what is it, 67% on the week?
00:31:43
Ben
He's hitting the throws.
00:31:44
Mike
we'll get there
00:31:48
Ben
I'm with Miller on this one. I think this was a huge W for for Caleb. this was ah this was
00:31:52
Mike
to
00:31:53
Ben
This coming from me, I think that was a great Caleb game.
00:31:58
Mike
Are you done, Chris? you have anything else before I go dive into more improvements?
00:32:00
Trio of Positivity
Hey, i'm just I'm just saying there's no I in team. That's all. Just give props everywhere.
00:32:05
Ben
The O-line, that was in my notes, but I thought we covered it. The O-line was freaking awesome.
00:32:10
Mike
We'll get there. We'll get there. Last thing on Caleb, we talked about the season differential, but how about we dive into what's important to us right now? Because last season doesn't really matter anymore. anymore But today, we have Ben Johnson as our coach.
00:32:23
Trio of Positivity
Convenient. convenient
00:32:25
Mike
So let's dive into those details. We all knew that it was going to take some time for him to get ah acclimated with this offense. The goal was set at a 70% mark. Let's dive into the first three weeks.
00:32:37
Mike
Started week one, completion senate percentage 60%, 210 passing yards, one touchdown, zero interception. And this week, week two sixty three point three percent completion percentage two hundred and seven yards two touchdowns one interception
00:32:52
Ben
Thank you.
00:32:52
Mike
and this week Like Ben mentioned, 67.9%, almost 300 yards, four touchdowns, zero interceptions. Obviously, the big caveat here is the Dallas defense sucks, but nonetheless, still showing that an incremental improvement on a weekly basis in this offense, slowly learning it.
00:33:14
Mike
We got to bask in the glory while we have it, guys, because we all know this doesn't fucking last forever.
00:33:20
Ben
Well, one thing I will say about completion percentage that I don't like is it doesn't take into account the times that he threw the ball away and it was the right decision. Like he didn't try to force it in there. He didn't try to scramble.
00:33:32
Ben
He threw a ball away. i think it was like three or four times that game where it was like, yeah that was ah that was the right play. There was no one open. You were getting pressure. Throw the ball away. And he did that. So sometimes those completion percentages are a little bit lower.
00:33:46
Ben
I feel it's a little unfair to so not include those types of plays.
00:33:51
Mike
Yeah, yeah, you can argue that, but then you get the little dump-down screens that are completion part of it, too so
00:33:55
Trio of Positivity
I mean, i if you're going to go off of this standard, then i would say that his last... His first year's season... Or his first week three performance was better than this one, but, you know.
00:34:10
Mike
too. Don't even listen to me half the time. It's fine. I get it.
00:34:13
Trio of Positivity
I mean, didn't he throw...
00:34:13
Mike
I'm the host. You don't fucking listen.
00:34:14
Trio of Positivity
he threw over 300 against the c Colts in week three last year.
00:34:16
Mike
i just i didn't I just said last...
00:34:18
Trio of Positivity
Like, I mean, are
00:34:19
Mike
I literally started this segment on that that fucking information with last year is irrelevant at this point. So let's focus on what the...
00:34:26
Trio of Positivity
But you can't say that if he had his best throwing game last season.
00:34:28
Mike
No, it is when you when you're not talking when you're not listening to me.
00:34:31
Trio of Positivity
See how it feels now?
00:34:31
Mike
I said...
00:34:32
Trio of Positivity
You see how it and see now?
00:34:32
Mike
Yeah, I know.
00:34:33
Trio of Positivity
You know how we have to see.
00:34:33
Mike
I was about to say it. was about to say it because I did it to you last week. But I was saying that this week, if you look at the learning of Ben Johnson's offense, he wasn't learning Ben jo and Johnson's offense last week.
00:34:46
Mike
He's learning it this week. And that is where you see the improvement because – I, for one, thought it it' it's going to take at least 8, 10 weeks for him to really get going on this ah offense because of how complicated it is and because of the shitty coaching that he had last week. That's all I have.
00:35:02
Mike
Nonetheless, you fucks keep talking about improvement. Wanted to bring out the stats there to tell you how he is improving year over year and game by game in this offense.
00:35:10
Ben
there.
00:35:12
Mike
So, fuck yes. He's our boy. Let's go. Okay, we can move on to other things now.
00:35:15
Trio of Positivity
I mean, he's thrown less, but okay. Go ahead.
00:35:19
Mike
He's thrown less than what? Last year, you really want to talk about game game one and two versus this year's one and two?
00:35:22
Trio of Positivity
yeah
00:35:25
Mike
Because I can go pull that up on Twitter real quick right now.
00:35:27
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. You can. And then when you get to week three, you'll see that he threw 52 times against the Colts, but, you know, no one's counting that.
00:35:34
Mike
You said that was a horrible game from him, for the record.
00:35:36
Trio of Positivity
No.
00:35:36
Mike
so yeah Yeah, you did.
00:35:37
Trio of Positivity
No. I said that was a...
00:35:38
Mike
No.
00:35:38
Ben
you throw more when you're You throw more when you're losing, so just...
00:35:39
Trio of Positivity
He threw...
00:35:42
Ben
It doesn't matter.
00:35:42
Mike
You said the Colts game was a horrible game for him last year because we we choked.
00:35:45
Trio of Positivity
No, that's not what I said.
00:35:46
Mike
We lost.
00:35:47
Trio of Positivity
We lost, but he threw over 300 yards, which is more than what the first three weeks here.
00:35:49
Mike
Yeah, but you still said it was a bad game because we choked.
00:35:52
Trio of Positivity
That's not what I said.
00:35:54
Mike
teach Okay, I'll go listen to it this week. Thank you.
00:35:56
Trio of Positivity
Go ahead. All right.
00:35:57
Mike
Homework.
00:35:57
Trio of Positivity
Let's get to the more important part of the podcast, which is the actual offense as a whole.
00:35:58
Ben
Homework.
00:36:04
Trio of Positivity
so go ahead, Miller. Read your dumb bullet points.
00:36:07
Mike
There are two eyes in Caleb Williams, so go fuck yourself. You liked that, didn't you? All right. So we want to start off with more Caleb Williams because, know, I'm a guy's YouTube fuck, so why not?
00:36:25
Mike
Whatever. Caleb Williams is currently the pending tonight's Monday night game, the touchdown passing leader in the NFL.
00:36:35
Ben
Tide.
00:36:35
Mike
do It doesn't matter. He's still the passing touchdown leader. It doesn't matter if he's tied or not.
00:36:41
Ben
Tide. Is
00:36:42
Mike
Do you know who the current NFL receiving touchdown leader is? And I believe it's untied.
00:36:49
Ben
that wrong?
00:36:50
Trio of Positivity
that's wrong
00:36:51
Mike
That's Roma dunze. Despite dropping the Caleb Williams fifth touchdown pass for the day.
00:36:56
Ben
Well, first of all, that was a bad that was a bad pass.
00:36:57
Mike
but We don't want to be that. No, it was not. Don't just shut up.
00:36:59
Trio of Positivity
and
00:37:00
Ben
If he would have hit him in the chest, if he would have hit him, yes.
00:37:01
Mike
You have to fucking catch that. Catch the fucking ball.
00:37:03
Ben
Oh, I agree. I agree he still should have caught it. But he had full extension, trying to keep his toes on the goal line. That was a tough catch to make. Caleb hits him in the chest.
00:37:13
Mike
Right here?
00:37:13
Ben
That's a touchdown.
00:37:14
Mike
Right here? is that I mean, the only only shit.
00:37:14
Ben
It was higher than that. He was full extension.
00:37:17
Mike
No, no. Fuck that. Fuck that position of the ball.
00:37:19
Ben
watch watch Watch the replay, bro.
00:37:20
Mike
The only thing that you can argue is that the ball was going in like a fucking fucking tornado, man. That thing was not even fucking spiral. It was like floppity, floppity.
00:37:30
Mike
Don't give me the fucking position. It was perfect. He had position.
00:37:32
Ben
It was that perp.
00:37:34
Mike
He had position. The hands were right here.
00:37:35
Trio of Positivity
how do you
00:37:36
Mike
Come on. Kiss the fucking ball.
00:37:36
Trio of Positivity
How do you say it's position when he's stretching for it? I don't understand.
00:37:40
Ben
He was full extension jumping up, Mike.
00:37:42
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, like, i how do you say that's position?
00:37:43
Ben
It's not a great throw.
00:37:46
Ben
You bullet that in his chest, he can duck and go lean in the end zone.
00:37:49
Trio of Positivity
he can he can He can lie down.
00:37:50
Ben
He goes like this, he has no chance to go into the end zone.
00:37:51
Trio of Positivity
he can throw his knee. Yeah, like, come on.
00:37:54
Mike
Okay, we don't want him to pull a Marvin Harrison here when he throws it in the chest and then it squeaks out his asshole, okay? We want a guy that catches with his hands, and that's what Rome does. So when you hit him in the head, catch his fucking hand.
00:38:03
Trio of Positivity
Okay, wait, wait, wait. Show me. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.
00:38:06
Trio of Positivity
Show me where the hands are again.
00:38:06
Mike
touch fucking
00:38:08
Mike
What?
00:38:09
Trio of Positivity
Show me where the hands are. You literally just had him right here. You literally had him right here.
00:38:13
Mike
Okay, whatever.
00:38:14
Trio of Positivity
His hands were up here.
00:38:16
Ben
Yep.
00:38:16
Trio of Positivity
There's a difference.
00:38:16
Mike
Catch the ball if he hit it in the hands.
00:38:18
Trio of Positivity
Oh, my God.
00:38:18
Ben
It's true. he should He still should have caught it.
00:38:19
Mike
Two hands. Two hands.
00:38:20
Ben
I am saying he still should have caught it, but he is a good wide receiver.
00:38:21
Mike
Two hands. Rome is a good wide receiver.
00:38:25
Ben
But that was on Caleb on that one. Oof.
00:38:29
Mike
No, it wasn't opposite. Whatever. Okay, let's dive into our, um since we all know that you guys love talking about history and what Caleb did last year, let's dive into some details with our offensive coordinator, shall we?
00:38:43
Mike
Shane Waldron. I hope none of you have Brian Thomas. Raise your hand if you do. Maybe one of us does. Brian Thomas Jr.
00:38:54
Mike
With the Jacksonville Jaguars, if you're paying attention, has about 18 fantasy points through three games.
00:39:01
Ben
Yeah.
00:39:02
Mike
Let's dive into Shane Waldron's resume, will well we? Because he was our offensive coordinator at the start of last year. Going back two years ago when he was in Seattle, JSN, Jackson Smith and Jigma, sucked.
00:39:15
Mike
You know what happened when Shane Waldron left? Jackson Smith and Jigma had a breakout campaign. Nonetheless, Shane Waldron came to the bears who wasn't very good.
00:39:28
Mike
Roma duns. Hey, Shane.
00:39:29
Ben
no No one.
00:39:30
Mike
Well, no one was very good.
00:39:30
Ben
no one was very good. no The answer is no one.
00:39:34
Mike
No one was very, but once, once Shane Waldron left Rome is now, I think he's second in fantasy for wide receivers with his stats. Yeah. Complete breakout campaign. And you know what's fucking stupid? The fact that I sat on this fucking show and preached how Rome was going to be wide receiver number one. And yet I have zero Roma dudes on any of my fantasy teams.
00:40:00
Mike
Fucking dumbass.
00:40:01
Trio of Positivity
You also said Shane Waldron was a offensive guru.
00:40:01
Ben
Yep. Oof.
00:40:06
Mike
I did. I did. I did. I did. I did like them. I thought the move was okay.
00:40:09
Ben
Oof. That's tough.
00:40:10
Mike
I mean, he did he did decent with Gino, at least the first year. But yeah, that's proven to be wrong. um
00:40:18
Trio of Positivity
ah You're you're already you're already feeling yeah already feeling the drink, so let me ah talk here about the offense as a whole.
00:40:18
Mike
But I'm hoping that Brian Thomas regresses.
00:40:26
Trio of Positivity
I know you have some certain points that you want to talk to, but that what thank God, because we're already at 40 minutes.
00:40:29
Mike
I've hit most of my points, so I'm good, dude.
00:40:33
Trio of Positivity
um so A couple things that did worry me were some of the three and outs, but the three and outs, kind of like what we discussed, were either penalty...
00:40:40
Mike
We're not on the worrying section yet.
00:40:43
Trio of Positivity
Oh my God. Let me
00:40:45
Mike
We still have the offensive line to talk about.
00:40:45
Trio of Positivity
mean that's what That's what I'm talking about. You literally said you touched all your points.
00:40:52
Mike
I thought you were going to be smart and I'd jump to a worrying section. The
00:40:55
Trio of Positivity
I have to. Is that not a worry?
00:40:58
Ben
No, the offensive line was great.
00:40:59
Mike
offensive line is a worry.
00:41:00
Trio of Positivity
No, I'm not talking about the offensive line. I'm talking about certain play calls that just do the three and outs.
00:41:06
Ben
ah the screen plays The screenplays have got they got to take backseat.
00:41:06
Mike
My God, do you want them to
00:41:10
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
00:41:10
Mike
We're not going to pull the Indianapolis Colts here. We're not going to score on every play. Okay.
00:41:15
Trio of Positivity
No, but there are certain plays that you just and just don't work.
00:41:15
Mike
we we We drafted a kid. We drafted a punter in the fourth round and we intend to use him. Okay.
00:41:22
Ben
Those are intentional three and outs, Chris.
00:41:24
Trio of Positivity
Right. No, I just wish I just I think in situations like that and Ben, I want to hear your point because at this point Miller's points are relevant in certain situations like that. Why aren't we using our tight ends?
00:41:36
Trio of Positivity
Why did our tight ends only have one catch each?
00:41:39
Ben
a
00:41:39
Trio of Positivity
That's all I want to know.
00:41:40
Ben
You know, course Colston had one in the first quarter, and then I think he got dinged up, so they didn't use him very much in the second half.
00:41:40
Mike
No, they had more than one, didn't they? I thought they had
00:41:41
Trio of Positivity
They had one each.
00:41:46
Mike
I thought... I thought...
00:41:49
Trio of Positivity
who
00:41:50
Ben
And then Colcomat, they just don't target him.
00:41:53
Trio of Positivity
Nope.
00:41:54
Ben
I think they've stopped –
00:41:54
Trio of Positivity
He only caught the touchdown. That was it.
00:41:56
Ben
Well, what I will say is I think they're trying to scheme open the receivers and end zone. There's a lot more guys in the middle of the field to cover a tight end than there are on the edges to cover two wide receivers.
00:42:07
Ben
So I think against a zone tv defense, you're going to see a little less, uh, uh, tight end play when the wide receivers are open. Now, if the zones, if the zones tend to go heavy toward the outside, that's when you're going to see Caleb hit come combat up the middle.
00:42:16
Trio of Positivity
i
00:42:23
Trio of Positivity
I just feel like in certain three and outs or in certain third downs, most of your dumps should go to your tight ends, especially with our running backs being who they are. um
00:42:33
Ben
that's fair
00:42:33
Trio of Positivity
Again, that's just I think that's that's mostly how the NFL operates. um I just haven't seen it. I haven't really seen like that comfort player that I've talked about for weeks now, including last season, where it's like you have these teams granted Kelsey's a little bit older, but, and I think he's an outlier as well, but like even Kittle, you have these guys where it's like, Hey, if it's third and 15 or if it's third and nine, like just give it to your tight end and see what he can kind of do.
00:43:00
Trio of Positivity
And it's like, we're, we're not doing that.
00:43:00
Ben
yeah
00:43:02
Trio of Positivity
So that's the only reason I'm bringing up the third downs.
00:43:05
Ben
Well, you make a good point because you could just jump ball it to commit against a linebacker. Commet will win most of those balls.
00:43:12
Trio of Positivity
Or, or do the, what is the five yard curl in and then just see what he can get.
00:43:15
Mike
come on guys Come on, guys. Don't you think there has to be a scheme issue with Komet?
Bears' Team Strategy and Challenges
00:43:22
Mike
There's a reason they drafted Loveland at 10.
00:43:23
Trio of Positivity
No, because we're seeing it with Loveland too. We're seeing it with Loveland.
00:43:26
Ben
No, they they they just re-signed him for four years or whatever.
00:43:26
Mike
He got dinged up. you got dinged du
00:43:30
Ben
They're going to fucking use him for four years.
00:43:30
Mike
No, they re-signed Komet last year. he's He's done after this. it's not It was three years. He's done after this year. He's gone. he's gone They were talking about cutting him in the offseason.
00:43:40
Ben
Well, whoever you listen to is a moron if you think they're going to cut Komet.
00:43:40
Mike
I think there's a scheme issue with
00:43:43
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:43:44
Ben
That's a stupid fucking take.
00:43:48
Mike
It's not. You just drafted a guy at 10. You're going to use that draft capital and you're going to spend 15 million on a tight end?
00:43:52
Trio of Positivity
We literally had this conversation. no No, no, I'm glad you brought this up.
00:43:58
Trio of Positivity
Ben, what did what did what was my question?
00:43:58
Mike
It's not intelligent.
00:43:59
Trio of Positivity
What was my question when I said, what's the point of drafting a tight end one if you're not going to start him?
00:44:00
Mike
Come on, man.
00:44:05
Trio of Positivity
Remember, we had this discussion.
00:44:07
Ben
Yeah.
00:44:07
Trio of Positivity
So.
00:44:08
Ben
Well, the other thing is, is he can't stay healthy. He started the season hurt. He had slow camp. Now he's hurt again. i know it's he says it's not serious, but every day you miss in practice as a rookie in a season is a big fucking deal, especially on a what i'm using your words, complicated offense.
00:44:26
Ben
Right?
00:44:26
Trio of Positivity
mean
00:44:27
Ben
So if –
00:44:28
Mike
if It was a four-year deal.
00:44:31
Ben
that's what I said. you Anyway, I'm always right.
00:44:33
Trio of Positivity
He's been known to be wrong. Don't worry about it.
00:44:35
Ben
But –
00:44:35
Trio of Positivity
Continue though. Continue.
00:44:36
Ben
But hear me out. We also talked a lot in the offseason about how Ben Johnson loves to run the 12 personnel. And in fact, he ran a couple of plays out of 13 personnel, which is three tight ends.
00:44:48
Ben
So if you're telling me a guy who loves 12 personnel isn't going to need two stud tight ends, you're out of your fucking mind.
00:44:54
Mike
No, he doesn't. yeah you're an
00:44:56
Ben
You're out of your fucking mind.
00:44:57
Mike
You're an idiot. You're an idiot. Just go look at... i Sorry, I don't want to say that. this I don't want to demean people on the podcast. Go look at...
00:45:04
Trio of Positivity
Someone told him that.
00:45:04
Mike
Tell me...
00:45:05
Trio of Positivity
Someone told him that. That's what that is. Someone said, you're too demeaning on the podcast.
00:45:09
Mike
Yeah.
00:45:09
Trio of Positivity
He got called out. That's what it is.
00:45:11
Mike
Tell me who Detroit Lions' second tight end was. You're not going to know.
00:45:15
Ben
Right, well, they didn't they didn't they didn't have a good...
00:45:16
Mike
Because there was...
00:45:17
Trio of Positivity
Because they had two running backs.
00:45:19
Ben
Yeah, they used their running game.
00:45:20
Mike
No, they had two they ran 12 men more than anybody else in the league.
00:45:20
Trio of Positivity
They had two running backs.
00:45:24
Mike
They did it. They didn't need two tight ends that were legit.
00:45:26
Trio of Positivity
But they did it to benefit the running game.
00:45:28
Mike
They needed one tight end that was elite and one tight end that was blocking mainly because he didn't get the ball.
00:45:35
Ben
Well, here's the difference.
00:45:35
Mike
The other tight end got 13 targets last year. 13 targets.
00:45:39
Ben
But here's the di here's the difference.
00:45:40
Mike
You don't need two guys that are going to touched ball, bro.
00:45:42
Ben
Hey, Whiskey Boy, listen up. Here's the difference between the two offenses. DeAndre Swift sucks. gibbs
00:45:51
Mike
we're not going
00:45:51
Ben
Gibbs and Montgomery are 50% Lions offense.
00:45:54
Mike
If we walk into next year with get with fucking Swift, i might just be an indie fan.
00:46:00
Trio of Positivity
No, but see see, here's the thing, and and we're we're kind of going all over the place because our host decided to hit the bar the bar a little bit too heavy only 46 minutes in. um This goes to my other worry.
00:46:13
Trio of Positivity
We have no run game. As much as we want to talk about it, we have
00:46:15
Ben
Yeah.
00:46:16
Mike
Dude, you were jumping all over the fucking place.
00:46:19
Trio of Positivity
No, that I'm taking control. I don't care. I'm taking control. We at this moment have no run game. There's no other way to explain it.
00:46:25
Ben
Yeah.
00:46:26
Trio of Positivity
There's no other way to sugarcoat it. The one best thing that we're trying to do is trying to use more as a running back, which after seeing.
00:46:35
Mike
Which is fucking embarrassing.
00:46:36
Trio of Positivity
No, you know what? I'm OK with it.
00:46:39
Trio of Positivity
I'm completely.
00:46:39
Mike
Really?
00:46:39
Ben
No, he's going get It's stupid.
00:46:39
Mike
Because you want him to pull a CD lamb?
00:46:41
Ben
yeah he's going to get her dude it's stupid
00:46:42
Trio of Positivity
He's going to get hurt, but you know what? Swift at this moment, either it's this it's a scheme thing.
00:46:48
Ben
He's a gadget pack.
00:46:50
Trio of Positivity
It has to be a scheme thing because we're and even... I don't know how to put this. It's just like when the running game is a struggle as it is, it just...
00:47:02
Trio of Positivity
We're fucked.
00:47:03
Mike
Yeah, Swift is ah averaging 2.5 a carry, and Manunga is actually averaging 2.7 a carry.
00:47:03
Ben
We...
00:47:03
Trio of Positivity
Especially in this
00:47:12
Mike
Both embarrassing figures. And this gets me back to the point, where the fuck is Roshon Johnson? Why is he not involved?
00:47:19
Ben
hes but He played on special teams, and I don't understand how you're going to only use him on that.
00:47:21
Mike
The coach said that he's a special teamer, and I'm like, where the fuck is
00:47:24
Trio of Positivity
no
00:47:25
Mike
mean He's at least a short yardage guy.
00:47:28
Trio of Positivity
And you know what's crazy?
00:47:28
Mike
Manunga wasn't horrible except that fucking horrible play at the goal line, but other than that,
00:47:32
Ben
we lost like nine yards.
00:47:33
Mike
We lost nine yards. Other than that, it wasn't awful, but like Swift is just not a good running back. Like he's great in the path that fucking dumped down to him.
00:47:39
Trio of Positivity
What's crazy?
00:47:43
Mike
the The screen pass where he knocked it for like 40 yards receiving was fantastic.
00:47:48
Ben
Yeah.
00:47:48
Mike
In open space, he's good. But when you're talking about running through the tackles, you're not going anywhere.
00:47:50
Trio of Positivity
But that's But that's what i was saying that's what I was saying about the run side of things.
00:47:53
Ben
Nope.
00:47:56
Trio of Positivity
Because Swift, like I think he he had the second highest run of the game or something like that. I think it was like 11 yards or something.
00:48:05
Mike
I mean,
00:48:05
Trio of Positivity
um
00:48:06
Ben
He did have one really good power run.
00:48:06
Trio of Positivity
But he had a really great... But souls are that should not really be the thing of like... With this kind of play calling, like our running backs are going to get touches.
00:48:16
Trio of Positivity
They're going to get touches. They have to.
00:48:18
Ben
You have to otherwise, you know, they're not going to blitz you. They're just going to sit.
00:48:22
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:48:23
Ben
But, but,
00:48:23
Trio of Positivity
And it's like, if our running game is not there, they're just going to keep putting more people in in the box.
00:48:24
Mike
i we're
00:48:29
Trio of Positivity
And then that's where Caleb is going to start getting hurt, like from from pressures. Like we need to find a solution. I think this is this. This will be something where I will look at at the trade deadline.
00:48:40
Trio of Positivity
I don't know what we could do.
00:48:40
Ben
Hold on, hold on let me Let me remind you, boys, because I bitched about it for, oh, I don't know, three months before the draft and about three months after the draft. We had pick number 10, and then we had three picks in the second round. And how many running backs did we draft? Can you remind me, Miller, how many we drafted?
00:48:59
Mike
Zero ins in the second round.
00:48:59
Ben
that's fucking right. Zero. So... We had the opportunity to improve our weakest position, and the opportunity we took is to pick a second number one tight end.
00:49:11
Ben
It just, polls is fucking horrible, and it baffles me.
00:49:14
Mike
That was on... i don't know i don't know. That was a Ben Johnson decision, I feel like. I mean...
00:49:20
Trio of Positivity
I'm never going to know the answer. We talked about this even too. Like at what point, at what point did we feel like this was a Ben Johnson pick or was this a polls pick?
00:49:22
Mike
We talked about it, but...
00:49:29
Mike
At 10, there's no way.
00:49:29
Trio of Positivity
and
00:49:31
Mike
Okay, like I shouldn't. Poles is his own man, and he he makes dumb decisions, but there's no way that you sign a tight end to a four-year deal in 2023, turn around two years later, and then draft a tight end at 10 without having head coach complete input, I have to admit, but.
00:49:43
Trio of Positivity
And draft the one.
00:49:45
Ben
At 10. ah
00:49:49
Trio of Positivity
So, so with that being said, I, I given, and I know I'm going to get some flack for this. If the bears were to move on for more during the trade deadline, if the bears are to move on,
00:49:59
Mike
No, we're not there yet. Fuck.
00:50:04
Mike
That was my question, you jackass.
00:50:06
Trio of Positivity
i said, I'm taking over the hosting duties. Cause you're, you're beyond saving at this point. Um, it would be for a running back.
00:50:14
Mike
Is DJ Moore done in Chicago?
00:50:14
Trio of Positivity
That's,
00:50:17
Ben
No.
00:50:18
Trio of Positivity
it's he's not, but if you're looking for value, you might get a running back.
00:50:19
Ben
No.
00:50:22
Ben
Well, what is it? What what is it?
00:50:22
Mike
Chris, you don't get you don't give value for wide receivers at the trade deadline.
00:50:24
Ben
ah what
00:50:26
Mike
You're not trained for a running back that's going to be worth a damn.
00:50:26
Ben
ah what is What is he signed for? He's like another five, six years, dude. Like, you guys are out of your mind if you think you're trying to trade these long contracts.
00:50:33
Mike
Did I just go out? Oh, fuck.
00:50:35
Trio of Positivity
The Bears can take the money, though. We have the cap space.
00:50:38
Ben
We don't. We're playing cap games right now. all the All of the signings, polls in the offseason, he had to stagger them between who's getting the money now, who's getting it in two years, and who's getting it four years.
00:50:49
Ben
That's the reason he had to sign. Uh-oh, we lost Miller.
00:50:52
Trio of Positivity
Thank God.
00:50:53
Ben
Hey, we can have a positive conversation.
00:50:55
Trio of Positivity
We can actually have a conversation. Oh, he came back. God damn it.
00:50:59
Ben
But yeah we don't have the cap space, especially in two years when you're going to have to re-sign Caleb for whatever ridiculous money he's going to want. Like, we don't have the cap space to trade for a high paid running back.
00:51:12
Trio of Positivity
I don't know. I think given what I've seen from other teams, especially in the offseason trades, a trade is possible. um
00:51:21
Mike
You're not going to get an elite running back.
00:51:21
Trio of Positivity
i would have. No, ah here's the thing. At this point, i don't care for elite. I just want someone that's mediocre at this point. I don't know how to...
00:51:30
Mike
Swift is mediocre.
00:51:32
Trio of Positivity
No, Swift? Swift is good on the pass game, but we don't have we don't have a scheme on...
00:51:35
Mike
You're not going to get anybody better than Swift. I guarantee it.
00:51:37
Trio of Positivity
We don't have a scheme right now. like I can't say that we can plug anyone in at that position and they'll be better than Swift.
00:51:42
Ben
Well, the problem with Swift is if he has a hole and he can actually see it, he can hit it and bust it. But he's not going to make the play to open the hole himself or, like, wait for the play to develop enough to then hit a cutback.
00:51:49
Trio of Positivity
Yes. Yes.
00:51:57
Ben
He just barrels into the backside of our O-line and falls down.
00:52:01
Trio of Positivity
But see that goes back to the scheme.
00:52:01
Ben
And it's just embarrassing.
00:52:02
Mike
All right.
00:52:03
Trio of Positivity
Is it a scheme thing?
00:52:05
Ben
No.
00:52:05
Trio of Positivity
Because if that's the case, where are other running backs that we can actually see if we can plug and play here?
00:52:05
Ben
It's a Swift thing. That's why – That's why Johnson got rid of of him in Detroit. He didn't want him in Detroit. That's why it's a whole thing. And he did his b lip service in the offseason. So I really liked you, Andre.
00:52:18
Ben
We'll find ways to use him. Well, you can't because he sucks unless it's a screen pass.
00:52:23
Mike
All right. The one point that we haven't talked on before we get moving here is the offensive line. Studley in this game. Braxton Jones, our left tackle.
00:52:35
Mike
Elite play. No pressures this game after allowing 12 in the first two. huge step up. Hopefully that continues.
00:52:46
Mike
Darnell still has his penalties, but I know his play is pretty good. And it's gotten to the point this year. I know Jonah Jackson on the right tackle or the right guard has had his moments.
00:52:57
Mike
But for for the most part, the interior of the offensive line, you we don't even talk about them, which is a really good thing.
00:53:03
Ben
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:53:05
Mike
like We don't talk about them a lot.
00:53:05
Ben
Mm-hmm.
00:53:07
Mike
So the offensive line play, specifically this game, as we've mentioned, really solidified, gave Caleb that pocket to work. And as we've seen this earlier this year, like when he has that pocket to work, he's producing really good passer ratings.
00:53:23
Trio of Positivity
two things Two things to bring up. One, Miller, can you tap your microphone? I want to make sure if you actually did it right.
00:53:28
Mike
I'm trying to click the button.
00:53:29
Trio of Positivity
Okay, good.
00:53:29
Mike
It's not working.
00:53:31
Trio of Positivity
Okay. ah Secondly... um ah Oh, God. I can't believe I did that. That's fucking hilarious. um Second... ah Did we figure out if Darnell's good to go?
00:53:44
Trio of Positivity
i know he got hurt, and then we had to play like...
00:53:46
Mike
He's back. He was back.
00:53:47
Trio of Positivity
He's back.
00:53:48
Mike
Yeah.
00:53:48
Ben
Yeah, he's back.
00:53:48
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
00:53:49
Ben
Yeah.
00:53:49
Mike
He was back.
00:53:50
Trio of Positivity
Okay. can I honestly say this was a great game for the O-line and you know what? If they have a shitty game next week, they get a pass from me. They get one pass. That's it.
00:54:00
Trio of Positivity
They get a pass. if Oh God, he hes he gone. um But...
00:54:06
Ben
Quick, let's move to a new topic so he can't change it when he comes back.
00:54:09
Trio of Positivity
No, but just to give our ah our O-line some props, like... the The one thing I will agree with Miller is that the more that we see this pocket kind of, you know, work itself out, the more comfortable Caleb will be and the more growth we'll see from him.
00:54:26
Trio of Positivity
So I just want them to repeat what they did. That's all I want from the whole line.
00:54:29
Ben
e Yeah, it was a great game.
00:54:32
Mike
All right, let's dive into the defense reform performance real quick. Dude, fuck, man.
00:54:41
Trio of Positivity
We're going to hit an hour, right, Miller? An hour.
00:54:43
Mike
um That four turnovers like we talked about, two sacks, seven QB hits, Tremaine Edmonds' best game of the as a Bear.
00:54:47
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
00:54:53
Mike
And then you talk about Tyreek Stevenson stepping up as the leader of that secondary with Jalen Johnson undergoing groin surgery. Well, not groin. It's like core surgery. ah I think that was what they came out with today.
00:55:06
Mike
He needed this game. He finally proved himself to be a solid, solid piece as a defensive back. And it's kind of a little surprising considering the elite talent that they had. Obviously, CeeDee Lamb went out during the beginning of this game.
00:55:23
Mike
But at the end of the day, he's still guarding George Pickens, who's still a pretty good wide receiver. So defense stepped up. ah The one caveat that I will say Here is that they did have a players only meeting for the defensive side of the ball after the fiasco that was Detroit.
00:55:41
Mike
So we'll see. We'll see. we spent Like we covered last week, we have spent a lot of money on the defensive side of the ball. The fact that they are getting blitzed by a lot of these offenses, these first two games, is a joke.
00:55:55
Mike
So I hope they continue to step it up against these offenses going forward because we need some Ws, ladies and gentlemen. We need some Ws.
00:56:04
Ben
i think I think one of the big differences between this week and obviously the last two was when the defense doesn't have to play after every three and out like they did against the Lions, they were refreshed. They played better.
00:56:18
Ben
And then the offense has or the other team's offense has to step up and throw the ball more, which is more of our strength than our run defense, which is pathetic. So... I think half of it is the defense played better and then the other half was the offense played better and and spent more time on the field than than the other two weeks.
00:56:37
Trio of Positivity
Two points I want to touch on that the Bears did not give up points in the second half. That's great to see. um And one thing that I actually and the one thing I will say, though, that we didn't talk about on the offensive side ah in the third quarter, the Bears actually had almost a 10 minute drive, which is very, very helpful for the defense.
00:56:46
Ben
Killed my over.
00:56:59
Ben
19 plays, right?
00:57:02
Trio of Positivity
So props on that as well.
00:57:03
Ben
Yep.
00:57:04
Mike
that was the Was that the one where they ran 11 straight runs?
00:57:07
Ben
Yep.
00:57:08
Mike
I think so, yeah.
00:57:09
Trio of Positivity
19 play 76 yards 9 minutes 54 seconds or a touchdown
00:57:12
Mike
Yeah, I think that was the one that ran 11 run plays, basically destroyed any chance of him getting 300 yards. Yeah, that was the one.
00:57:20
Trio of Positivity
and in case anyone's wondering the last four possessions of the cowboys was punt interception interception interception
00:57:32
Mike
Yes, sir. That's a wrap. All right. So any other takeaways from this game before we jump into the positivity score moving forward?
00:57:42
Ben
The post-game celebration was phenomenal.
00:57:46
Mike
We'll get to that later at the ah at the end of the episode.
00:57:46
Trio of Positivity
Okay. and You guys got to calm down on that. Just it's
00:57:51
Ben
You guys didn't send me an art itinerary, so...
00:57:54
Trio of Positivity
actually he did.
00:57:55
Mike
I asked if anybody wanted it and used no one anything.
00:57:57
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, he did. he did. and you didn't respond. So, but but granted, listen, we don't believe in itineraries here.
00:58:01
Mike
but But the fact...
00:58:03
Trio of Positivity
That's why Miller sounds like a little jackass most of the time.
00:58:05
Mike
The fact that this loser over here, wherever he is, the the ugly one on the screen, um that doesn't like doesn't like that post-game celebration.
00:58:06
Trio of Positivity
So
00:58:11
Trio of Positivity
how dare you say that to our guests?
00:58:15
Mike
like There were literally comparisons ran between Ben Johnson and what Matt Eberflus did on his first win. And it's just like, it's night and day, dude. This guy gets you pumped up.
00:58:26
Mike
It sounds like a normal fucking coach that you would watch on ESPN.
00:58:29
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, this guy gets you pumped up.
00:58:31
Mike
You don't...
00:58:31
Trio of Positivity
This guy gets you this guy gets you pumped up.
00:58:32
Mike
You think...
00:58:34
Trio of Positivity
But then people were criticizing how he talked about how the team wasn't practicing to win the game. Like, like come on, you got to you got to find a middle ground here.
00:58:41
Ben
That's awesome.
00:58:42
Trio of Positivity
Like, I agree.
00:58:42
Mike
Who the fuck?
00:58:42
Ben
No, that's awesome.
00:58:43
Mike
Who criticized that?
00:58:43
Trio of Positivity
It's awesome. But like a lot, oh hold a lot of people were criticizing.
00:58:45
Mike
No one I listened to criticized that.
00:58:49
Trio of Positivity
Like, why are you bringing this up right now?
00:58:50
Ben
I love that. I love that.
00:58:51
Mike
Okay, Pat McAfee isn't a lot of people, dude.
00:58:54
Ben
Yeah, Pac-A-Man, his opinion doesn't count anyway.
00:58:54
Mike
You gotta get off of it.
00:58:54
Trio of Positivity
No, it wasn't just him. His opinion is a lot more important than certain people here. I'll tell you that.
00:59:01
Ben
ah disagree, because he's wrong more often than right.
00:59:02
Mike
Disagree.
00:59:04
Trio of Positivity
No, he's actually right more often than he's wrong. And that's shout out, Pat.
00:59:08
Mike
Okay, okay.
00:59:08
Ben
Uh-huh. Okay.
00:59:10
Mike
I'll shoot you i'll shoot you over my knee pads. um
00:59:12
Ben
Yeah.
00:59:15
Trio of Positivity
The used ones.
00:59:16
Mike
But moving on, let's jump into the, yeah, of course the used ones. New ones are for me. Moving on, let's jump into the positivity score. Okay, um Chris, you can start us off.
00:59:27
Trio of Positivity
Miller, no, you go
Bears' Game Analysis and Scores
00:59:28
Trio of Positivity
first. we Just get your shit over with.
00:59:29
Mike
Okay, positivity score for me, it's one win at the end of the day. CeeDee Lamb got hurt at the beginning of the game. Can't put too much solace into it. The Bears, I'm giving a three.
00:59:40
Mike
Caleb Williams went up two in my book to a six, taking the average of the two. You don't need to do this at a four and a half for the Bears. Four and a half positivity score for the Bears.
00:59:51
Trio of Positivity
On a win and all the glazing that you did, that's all you're giving the Bears team as a whole, a three.
00:59:57
Mike
Okay. I said, yeah, yeah. It's one win, dude.
01:00:00
Ben
I
01:00:01
Trio of Positivity
oh
01:00:02
Mike
It's one fucking win.
01:00:02
Trio of Positivity
oh
01:00:03
Mike
you you i actually have good positivity scores.
01:00:05
Trio of Positivity
Oh, my Lord.
01:00:06
Mike
You have B, C, D, and then 60% F. Yours make no sense.
01:00:11
Trio of Positivity
Makes total sense.
01:00:11
Mike
so and So mine are actually legit, where...
01:00:13
Trio of Positivity
Makes total sense. Please don't bang into the microphone. We hear that.
01:00:15
Mike
and That was actually my computer.
01:00:16
Trio of Positivity
I appreciate it.
01:00:17
Mike
that Mine are actually real, whereas 9 and 10 are like championship contenders, and 6 through 8 are like playoff teams.
01:00:17
Trio of Positivity
Um.
01:00:25
Mike
so like
01:00:26
Trio of Positivity
I okay I'm gonna i am bringing receipts for next week Ben what do you have
01:00:26
Mike
Right now, I'm not...
01:00:31
Ben
I'm more a toward a four. While the offense did take a step up, that increased my score because I thought they were average at best in the first two. The defense took a step up, but I don't think that'll last.
01:00:46
Ben
But one thing that still scares me about this team is special teams. ah Taylor almost had another punt blocked this game. It was like inches from being blocked. They got to figure that shit out, dude.
01:00:57
Ben
I don't, ah he's a great punter. Don't get me wrong, but dude, if they keep getting those things blocked, it's going to be a long season. So I think a total of a four for a one and two team is fair.
01:01:09
Mike
Don't worry, don't worry Roshan will just continue to hold people It's fine Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
01:01:09
Trio of Positivity
So,
01:01:13
Ben
Right. Well, if he didn't, that would have been blocked. You know what i'm saying? Like, it's just, that's gotta be cleaned up, dude. the the Your special teams can't lose you a game. Ask the other three teams in the league with field goal blocks.
01:01:26
Trio of Positivity
So um even though my compadres here have no clue what they're talking about, the Bears are basically one quarter, if you really think about it, away from being two and one for the season.
01:01:37
Trio of Positivity
If they actually took the Minnesota game where it is. But granted, you can plug in any fucking quarterback you want at Minnesota and they still managed to win a fucking game. so I mean, it is what it is.
01:01:50
Trio of Positivity
My positivity score, I can't believe I'm actually going to say this. it's a whole win It's a whole team win on all phases. It's a six on my side.
01:01:58
Mike
A six?
01:01:58
Trio of Positivity
i was It's a six on my side.
01:01:59
Ben
For the game or the year?
01:02:01
Trio of Positivity
for Here's the thing.
01:02:02
Ben
i thought we were doing the year.
01:02:03
Mike
It's just...
01:02:04
Trio of Positivity
oh no, no, no.
01:02:04
Mike
It is the year.
01:02:04
Trio of Positivity
Just this game. It's just this game.
01:02:06
Mike
no it's the year.
01:02:07
Ben
ah do we don't?
01:02:07
Mike
It's the year. The positivity score is your feeling towards the Bears at this moment.
01:02:12
Ben
that's Yeah, that's what i understood it as.
01:02:12
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, six.
01:02:14
Ben
Oh my god.
01:02:15
Mike
Oh my fucking god.
01:02:15
Trio of Positivity
So here's here's here's the thing that I will always say about this Bears team. And granted, you guys are idiots. You guys wouldn't know this. If everything worked out the way it was supposed to, we still...
01:02:29
Ben
We'd be 17-0 and win a Super Bowl.
01:02:30
Trio of Positivity
we Right.
01:02:31
Ben
Like, shut the fuck up.
01:02:32
Trio of Positivity
Brian would have a fucking celebration every fucking week.
01:02:36
Mike
Oh, we all would.
01:02:36
Trio of Positivity
um I think this felt, given certain scenarios, it almost felt like if the Bears didn't win this game, the city was going to burn. i don't... I mean, it is what it is.
01:02:47
Trio of Positivity
So the fact that they were able to have a commanding win... It was really good for them, given everything that was coming for it. So that's why I'm giving them a six. This is a feel good win. It's going to get us into a great transition going into another horrible team. That's the Raiders.
01:03:03
Trio of Positivity
We'll talk about that in a little bit. So that's the reason why I think it was a good team win. Usually when it's a a win, we always seem to fault someone this game. We couldn't really fault anyone. We're nitpicking. Great team win. It's a six.
Injury Updates and Implications
01:03:15
Mike
All right. Well, that's the wrap of the last week. Let's see how they do. Let's jump into the fantasy recap really quick.
01:03:21
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, out of curiosity, how what timing are we on this?
01:03:22
Mike
Oh, fuck.
01:03:23
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
01:03:24
Mike
I have no fucking idea. I've reloaded my screen twice. But we're going to be jumping into the injuries. Obviously, one key thing of fantasy this year compared to last is the injuries.
01:03:36
Mike
So let's run down all the players that got injured this week.
01:03:40
Ben
Oh.
01:03:40
Mike
We had CeeDee Lamb. He's going to be out three to four weeks. One of the reasons the Bears got that decisive victory. Mike Evans with a hamstring to be determined. But I have heard speculations about him going on IR.
01:03:52
Mike
James Conner, the running back for the Arizona, he's going to be out for the year. Najee Harris, Achilles, he's out for the year. Terry McLaurin, he's got a quad to be determined him. Tyrone Tracy got hurt on Monday night with his shoulder.
01:04:08
Mike
But some silver lining there is Cam Scadaboo came in and rocked the world.
01:04:14
Trio of Positivity
Solid.
01:04:16
Mike
He almost lost me in my matchup.
01:04:16
Trio of Positivity
Solid pronunciation. Hell yeah.
01:04:18
Mike
He almost lost me my matchup. I was up 20 on fucking Monday going into that game, and I was like, what the fuck?
01:04:20
Ben
Shit. Shit. Shit.
01:04:24
Mike
Aaron Jones obviously still hurt with the hammy. um Side note here, 49ers, dude, they can't catch a break, dude.
01:04:32
Trio of Positivity
They cannot.
01:04:33
Mike
I don't know what the fuck's going on with their training staff, but Nick Bosa, he tore his ACL on Sunday. Another huge loss to this team. They cannot get past injuries.
01:04:46
Mike
who know Who the fuck knows what this team's going to be going through.
01:04:48
Ben
But they're 3-0, bro. They're 3-0.
01:04:49
Mike
yeah are They are 3-0. They are 3-0. They beat the Arizona Cardinals. And they also beat Seattle, which is pretty surprising the way Seattle's been playing. But um we'll see who that goes.
01:05:01
Mike
Finally, jumping into the quarterbacks here. They are getting hurt. Every fucking position group is getting hurt. Jaden Daniels got possibly an MCL tear. No one knows what's going on with him.
01:05:12
Trio of Positivity
We talked about, we brought that up last time.
01:05:13
Mike
He's day-to-day.
01:05:16
Mike
Joe Burrow's pretty much out for the year as far as fantasy is concerned. Justin Fields still dealing with concussion protocol, although the Jets looked better without him. Brock Purdy, he's hurt.
01:05:28
Mike
Mack Jones, he's hurt. What the fuck? that who Who's the Niners going to play on the fucking field? They're not going have anybody.
01:05:34
Ben
Cap Kaepernick dude.
01:05:35
Mike
and i'll Maybe Kaepernick or CMC just might do it.
01:05:36
Trio of Positivity
imagine. imagine
01:05:40
Mike
CMC will just be in the...
01:05:41
Ben
They just wildcat.
01:05:41
Mike
Just do it all. He'll throw the ball to himself to get the catches.
01:05:43
Ben
Yeah.
01:05:44
Trio of Positivity
What's the meme? There's a meme from Simpsons where it's Nelson. He's playing football and he's like, he's the quarterback. He throws it in the air and and he just runs to go catch it himself.
01:05:54
Ben
Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:55
Mike
That'll be CMC. That's how that offense works. And obviously, my claim to fame, J.J.
01:05:57
Ben
yeah
01:06:00
Mike
McCarthy getting benched for Carson Wentz. It's happening. Get used to it. He got benched.
01:06:07
Trio of Positivity
He did not get benched.
01:06:07
Mike
he's I mean, I am not.
01:06:09
Trio of Positivity
He was hurt.
01:06:09
Mike
i'm not He got hurt.
01:06:11
Trio of Positivity
Don't.
01:06:11
Mike
I will give you that. But Carson Wentz is going to be the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings for four weeks.
01:06:18
Trio of Positivity
The Vikings are the best at finding horrible quarterbacks that no one wants and apparently make some fucking fantastic elsewhere.
01:06:22
Mike
No.
01:06:25
Mike
No, they have a really good play caller, dude. That's what happens when you have an elite play caller.
01:06:29
Trio of Positivity
Hence why.
01:06:30
Ben
mccart McCarthy is awesome, dude. You gotta to give him props.
01:06:32
Trio of Positivity
I mean.
01:06:33
Mike
No, McCarthy is not awesome. That's not his name.
01:06:35
Ben
Oh, what?
01:06:35
Trio of Positivity
Wait.
01:06:36
Ben
what Kevin O'Connell.
01:06:38
Mike
Kevin O'Connell.
01:06:39
Trio of Positivity
um
01:06:40
Mike
Kevin O'Connell is awesome.
01:06:40
Trio of Positivity
But like Danny Dimes was also a shit quarterback, right?
01:06:41
Ben
God damn it.
01:06:44
Mike
if He didn't play, did he?
01:06:49
Trio of Positivity
Wait, what?
01:06:49
Mike
and Daniel Jones did not play Indy.
01:06:53
Mike
He just signed with them as a backup.
01:06:53
Trio of Positivity
Who am I confusing him with?
01:06:55
Mike
No, he was with or he was with Minnesota, but he didn't play.
01:06:57
Ben
and Minnesota. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:06:59
Trio of Positivity
Right, that's what saying.
01:06:59
Mike
He was the backup quarterback.
01:07:00
Trio of Positivity
Minnesota seems... No, what I'm saying is Minnesota seems to just get good quarterbacks no matter what. And then an example that I was giving was you have Jones going to Colts and then Danny Dimes.
01:07:11
Mike
They don't get good quarterbacks. They get shitty quarterbacks and turn them into good quarterbacks.
01:07:13
Trio of Positivity
Never mind.
01:07:14
Ben
Turn him good. Yeah. Yeah. Miller's got the right point there.
01:07:17
Mike
so
01:07:18
Ben
Cause Jones looks Jones looks great now, but he sucked ass and in, New York for how many years?
01:07:18
Mike
Idiots.
01:07:23
Ben
Five years, six years.
01:07:26
Mike
Something like that. Yeah. um Yeah.
01:07:29
Trio of Positivity
That was who...
01:07:29
Mike
So the.
01:07:29
Trio of Positivity
Wait, maybe that's why I'm confusing it then. Wasn't he in the running for to be Minnesota's starting quarterback too?
01:07:36
Mike
Technically.
01:07:37
Ben
Last year, but it was with Cousins.
01:07:37
Trio of Positivity
Right? Yeah, that's what it was.
01:07:39
Ben
Because Cousins went out, right?
01:07:39
Mike
um No, no, no, no, no.
01:07:40
Trio of Positivity
No, it wasn't with Cousins.
01:07:41
Ben
because
01:07:41
Trio of Positivity
It was...
01:07:42
Mike
He's right.
01:07:42
Ben
Right, Cousins went to Atlanta.
01:07:44
Mike
Daniel Jones was picking between Indy and Minnesota, but he knew that JJ McCarthy was going to get the starting role.
01:07:47
Trio of Positivity
That's what it was.
01:07:48
Ben
Ah. Was coming back.
01:07:49
Trio of Positivity
That's what it was.
01:07:50
Ben
Yeah, yeah.
01:07:50
Mike
So he went with Indy to compete.
01:07:52
Trio of Positivity
I couldn't pair it.
01:07:52
Mike
Yeah.
01:07:52
Trio of Positivity
I just remember hearing someone saying like that. like Imagine if he went over here too. Yeah.
01:07:57
Mike
Yeah.
01:07:57
Trio of Positivity
um
01:07:57
Mike
So injuries are adding up in fantasy. Check your waiver wires. Let's put in the things for all the people. For those of you like myself that have C.D. Lamb, good luck. It's been a fun season.
01:08:09
Mike
um And honestly, I have C.D. Lamb and James Conner in the same league. So you know what? I'm just writing checks, just sending it to people, whoever wants it, because it's not going to happen with me.
01:08:16
Trio of Positivity
Yep. Same here, brother.
01:08:19
Mike
But have fun with it. Don't forget, trades happen. Now's the time to be focused on getting any trades that you might want. um and Always have fun with it. That's the main goal. Okay, let's dive into week four before Chris yells at me for going two hours. We're not going to do two hours.
01:08:36
Mike
We're probably pretty close at this point. It wasn't my fault. oh
Bears vs. Raiders Preview
01:08:42
Mike
Bears are going to Las Vegas. I wish that I could have made that trip.
01:08:47
Mike
Maybe someday in the near future I will, but
01:08:49
Trio of Positivity
We have to plan that. but That has to be an all of us thing. That just sounds like so much fun.
01:08:52
Mike
the it it would be It would be a blast to go to Vegas to watch a game for the Bears.
01:08:57
Trio of Positivity
ESPN 1000 is actually doing a tailgate at the stadium, hoping Bears fans.
01:09:00
Mike
I'm aware, and I looked at tickets, and I was like, that'll be fun.
01:09:02
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
01:09:05
Mike
The wife isn't going to give me permission to go, unfortunately.
01:09:07
Ben
hmm, hmm.
01:09:09
Mike
But the Raiders, I don't know, dude. They're not very good. Geno Smith's not very good. I mean, I know he threw like three touchdown passes this last week, and I think he had a good fantasy week, but realistically, they were down 27 to like 10 by like halftime to the Washington backup quarterback.
01:09:31
Ben
And where the fuck is where the fuck is Ashton Gentry, that bitch? I got him in two leagues, and he just sucks, man.
01:09:36
Mike
Where is Ashton Gentile, man?
01:09:40
Ben
Four points this last week, I think it was, or maybe five. Like, ugh, give me a break.
01:09:44
Mike
I mean, I did i did see a stat today that said... um um
01:09:51
Mike
Yards before contact, 144. Yards after contact, 145. So like these linemen are getting to him in the backfield. like he's not getting He doesn't have any place to run.
01:10:06
Mike
But for his ass to come out as a rookie and call out the team for not giving him enough touches, like go fuck yourself, dude. Maybe you should learn to block somebody. Because he i mean he's not doing that worth shit for that team.
01:10:17
Ben
Well, luckily luckily for him, he's playing the Bears next week, and we god-awful at the run game.
01:10:24
Mike
Yeah, we'll see.
01:10:24
Ben
so
01:10:25
Mike
This could be the breakout game, but um I don't know. Ashton Gentile, Geno Smith, obviously you got Brock Bowers. There is the tight end. He hasn't he's been very underwhelming this year as well.
01:10:37
Mike
don't know what's going on with that offense. um But it's definitely for the taking. Like Ben Johnson pointed out in the presser today, it looks like it opened in Vegas as the Bears' one-and-a-half-point favorites.
01:10:52
Mike
It has now flipped.
01:10:53
Ben
Oh, underdogs. Yeah.
01:10:54
Mike
No, we were we originally the favorites. It flipped fairly quickly to the Raiders being the favorites. So I don't know, man. I just feel like this is a game got to have.
01:11:05
Mike
You got to take this. Let's go into the by two and O or two and two, I should say. And let's go, go from there. The one thing I won't mention on the defensive side, they have the big man, um the Crosby on the defensive line. Their defensive line is pretty stout.
01:11:23
Mike
It'll be complete different from what we had with the Cowboys. we'll see what happens there, but yeah, um We'll see if Caleb can keep up keep up the performance. He should be able to. I mean, Marcus Mariota just tore him to shit.
01:11:35
Mike
So, man.
01:11:35
Ben
fish
01:11:37
Mike
We'll see.
01:11:38
Trio of Positivity
the only um The only thing that is not related to field stuff is how much does Tom Brady plan to cheat, ah given that he watched the game and got some insider information about the Bears and how he's going to utilize it this upcoming game.
01:11:39
Mike
We'll see.
01:11:56
Trio of Positivity
It's going to show either... If the Bears win and we route them means absolutely fucking nothing that he has access. Or if we get routed, we can just blame Brady. So I think we're in a win win here.
01:12:09
Mike
We are in a win-win, obviously. I don't know. I don't think the little stuff like that's going to really translate that much. I think it's morer more of a higher level type of thing that he's got an influence in.
01:12:21
Mike
But who knows?
01:12:22
Trio of Positivity
Now, what I'm looking to see is more, you know, pocket presence from Caleb. um You did talk about the offensive, the defensive line from the Raiders, that it is a little bit better.
01:12:34
Trio of Positivity
Some say even more than what we had experienced with the Cowboys. um I think that's where you're going to start seeing, like, as as the defense is improved, given the teams that we play throughout the season,
01:12:46
Trio of Positivity
Does the offensive line have enough to give Caleb time? I think that's something that you're going to continue to watch as these games go along. um I'm very excited for this game.
01:12:57
Trio of Positivity
ah We travel well when it comes to going to Vegas. It should be 50-50, almost like a neutral site, possibly 60-40. um If it's more than that, it's home field advantage.
01:13:10
Trio of Positivity
I'm feeling very happy about it.
01:13:13
Ben
I don't I don't think I don't believe that at all I don't think it's going to be 50-50
01:13:13
Mike
I'm just upset that it's another 325 game.
01:13:19
Trio of Positivity
What do you think?
01:13:23
Mike
and No, it I think Chris is right. I think it'll be a 50-50, 60-40 split. Come on. You think l LA has a or ah Las Vegas has a fan base?
01:13:32
Ben
Yep, and i am ah I'm going put my money where my mouth is, and we'll do another chug bet.
01:13:34
Mike
God.
01:13:39
Trio of Positivity
So if it's so you're saying that it is.
01:13:43
Mike
What the fuck are we going to do?
01:13:44
Ben
baby. want to know
01:13:45
Trio of Positivity
i was going to say, what are we?
01:13:46
Mike
What is your chug back going to be?
01:13:47
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. What are you chugging here?
01:13:48
Mike
That the Bears fans are going to be 60-40? How
01:13:51
Ben
No, I think it's less. You guys say it's that.
01:13:53
Mike
are we going to fucking calculate that, you dumbass?
01:13:56
Ben
They'll be wearing blue and orange, baby.
01:13:58
Mike
Okay, I'll count them.
01:13:58
Ben
you You'll be able to tell. You'll be able to tell.
01:14:00
Mike
i'll have We'll have the kids count them.
01:14:02
Ben
There you go Pause that screen.
01:14:08
Mike
All right. Before we get out of here, let's do a little score prediction and prediction for the game. I'll start. I'm continuing what with what I had when I started this fucking shenanigans of the schedule.
01:14:22
Mike
It's going to be a W. Bears are going to come out on top.
01:14:31
Ben
who
01:14:31
Trio of Positivity
It's a close game. Wow.
01:14:32
Mike
I was going to go a little more greedy, but I decided not to.
01:14:33
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
01:14:37
Trio of Positivity
What's the over or what's the over under?
01:14:41
Mike
don't fucking know,
01:14:43
Trio of Positivity
Way to do research. ah Ben over under 48 and a half, according to yeah ESPN.
01:14:45
Ben
yeah
01:14:50
Ben
I'm taking the over. and And I actually...
01:14:51
Mike
dude. Of course you are.
01:14:53
Ben
um I'm going Homer a little harder than Miller here. I think Bears 31... And Raiders lose by only scoring 20 points.
01:15:04
Trio of Positivity
Hmm. interesting okay um I think this game has more meaning because it gives the Bears an opportunity to realize what it is to play in a dome since we're going to Arlington and they're going to be able to figure out how this is going to work.
01:15:20
Mike
Mm-hmm.
01:15:21
Ben
Yeah, that piece of shit.
01:15:25
Trio of Positivity
um I did say that the Bears were going to lose against the Cowboys. I was wrong. I did also say that the Bears were going to lose against the Raiders.
01:15:37
Trio of Positivity
But the Raiders look like shit. So I'm going to flip my prediction. I have the Bears winning, but I think it's going to come down to a field goal.
01:15:50
Trio of Positivity
um Again, i don't know if we have the consistency yet. I'm hoping this game is to say, hey, we can get two wins together. Our offense looks good, productive for two games in a row.
01:16:00
Trio of Positivity
We haven't been able to do that in a long time. so I'm hopeful, but I think the Bears come out twenty seven twenty four
01:16:09
Mike
Copycat. Jesus. All right. Well, I will say that Chris is leading us in record-wise, sadly, at two and one.
01:16:22
Mike
But as you can see, his schedule prediction before the year is trash. It's basically crap. It's awful.
01:16:28
Trio of Positivity
No, because I was right against the Vikings and I was right against the Lions.
01:16:30
Mike
Because...
01:16:32
Trio of Positivity
And to be fair, OK, can I just ask this and I know where we'll end it.
01:16:34
Mike
but But then you then you're going to be law ah wrong this week and you're going to possibly your prediction is wrong next week. It's trash.
01:16:41
Trio of Positivity
But you do realize that if I'm wrong this week, then we're all wrong this week and I'm still technically right because I originally predicted a loss.
01:16:46
Mike
No, you said it was a loss.
01:16:48
Trio of Positivity
Right. But I just flipped it and I said we would win.
01:16:52
Mike
That isn't the original schedule prediction.
01:16:52
Trio of Positivity
Anyway, can I just ask this question? I just want to know just from and then we'll end the episode because God forbid we're already at two hours. um CD Lam, do you think ah he could have made a difference in this game?
01:17:07
Ben
Yes.
01:17:08
Mike
Yeah, you could have made a difference for my fantasy team too.
01:17:10
Ben
not only
01:17:10
Trio of Positivity
Relevant on the fantasy side, I'm just.
01:17:11
Ben
not only Not only his production would have helped, but then Stevenson would have had to guard him, and Wright is our second corner now. He would had to guard Pickens.
01:17:23
Ben
So you're at a much better matchup as the Cowboys having CeeDee Lamb in, regardless of who's guarding him.
01:17:31
Mike
and Absolutely. It would have made a huge difference. I mean, I think one for one, i wouldn't have been chugging tonight.
01:17:33
Ben
Huge difference.
01:17:33
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, I think... Yeah.
01:17:37
Mike
I think Ben would have been chugging tonight because we would actually done something in the second half. But um I mean, there I think we would have still came out on top because many of the the i mean, the Tremaine Edmonds interception still went off Pickens's hands.
01:17:51
Mike
So like that wasn't on CD, but.
01:17:51
Trio of Positivity
yeah was going to say, I think I think Dak looked pretty good, too, um given his scenario and how the team looks. I think that's still a positive.
01:18:03
Trio of Positivity
But yeah, I think if CD Lam was there, I think we would have seen more scoring from their end.
01:18:07
Mike
Yeah, I think it would have been a higher scoring game and Ben would have hit us over.
01:18:09
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
01:18:11
Mike
Turns out we all own $5.
01:18:11
Trio of Positivity
All right, Miller.
01:18:15
Ben
First last issue.
01:18:15
Trio of Positivity
Miller ah Miller, send us home.
01:18:15
Ben
year
01:18:17
Mike
Yeah. we done? Are we done? Well, thank you for listening.
Episode Conclusion
01:18:23
Mike
And as we say in Chicago... Good, better, best. Never let it rest.
01:18:27
Mike
Until your good gets better and your better gets best.
01:18:27
Trio of Positivity
Oh, God.
01:18:31
Trio of Positivity
No.
01:18:31
Mike
Bears on three.
01:18:31
Trio of Positivity
Stopping.
01:18:32
Mike
One, two, three. B-E-A-R-S.
01:18:34
Ben
ah Hey, who
01:18:34
Mike
Chicago Bears, baby.
01:18:35
Trio of Positivity
We are not and we are not ending. We are not ending the episode like that. I'm not allowing it.
01:18:41
Mike
Yeah.
01:18:42
Ben
who's providing the nail polish for next episode?
01:18:45
Mike
Ooh.
01:18:46
Trio of Positivity
Oh, good question. Actually, we should do that. Hey, if ah if it's 50 50 at the yeah stadium, you should ah wear bare colored nail polish on the next episode.
01:18:55
Ben
Brother, if he throws for 400 yards this game, I will paint my nails for the next episode.
01:18:59
Trio of Positivity
Oh, we are going to end it with that. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for listening.
01:19:03
Mike
It's like the wiener circle hot dogs.
01:19:03
Trio of Positivity
I will actually do the outro because I am the actual host. um Thank you guys so much for listening. We appreciate it Figure out our socials from our previous episode because forgot him too. But thank you guys so much and we'll see you guys next week.
01:19:17
Trio of Positivity
Bye-bye.
01:19:17
Ben
Later!