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Season 3 - Episode 2 - Can we see Caleb Please?
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We dive into all things Bears and touch on fantasy football as the season grows near!
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Launch
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Bhupen
Hello! I just feel like I need to blast into some nice vocals there, but I don't have it. Hello and welcome to the Trio of Positivity Podcast.
00:00:27
Bhupen
We appreciate you people hopping on and joining us today. What a beautiful week of preseason football we had. Boys, I hope you're excited. We got a great show for you today.
00:00:40
Bhupen
We are talking about the Bears' upcoming week two
Football Excitement and Preseason Highlights
00:00:45
Bhupen
preseason game. We're supposedly starters will play um we will talk a little bit fantasy get you guys started i'm sure your drafts are happening soon get you guys started on that and just share some feedback on the last game we had a pretty jam-packed show ah but again we appreciate you guys joining us today i'm your co-host bupen joined by my boys here cj mike's here what's up boys say hello
00:01:12
Trio of Positivity
Oh my God, who's CJ? Haven't heard that name in forever.
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Mike
CJ back in the day.
00:01:15
Bhupen
I didn't know what name you were going with today. I'm sorry. I'm
00:01:19
Trio of Positivity
I think I've kept it the same.
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Mike
Oh yeah.
00:01:21
Bhupen
sorry.
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Mike
For a while.
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Bhupen
don't know.
00:01:22
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:01:24
Bhupen
that That music though.
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Mike
i missed the CJ times.
00:01:25
Trio of Positivity
CJ was so season one.
00:01:27
Mike
That was when the bears had Justin Fields.
00:01:33
Trio of Positivity
Hey, Fields got a tutty. Fields got a tutty.
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Mike
Running per usual.
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Bhupen
He did. He He did. There'll be a lot more of that. There'll be a lot more of that this season.
Birthday Notifications and Social Media
00:01:46
Bhupen
All right, before I throw it to you, to regret your reaction on preseason week one.
00:01:51
Trio of Positivity
No, no, no.
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Bhupen
and
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Trio of Positivity
That's not how we're starting. Boys, happy birthday. I hope you guys had fantastic days. It is the dreaded birthday week of these two assholes.
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Bhupen
Dreaded.
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Trio of Positivity
um
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Bhupen
Wow.
00:02:01
Mike
Dreaded?
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Trio of Positivity
Dreaded, yeah, because, okay, so we're going to go on a tangent. So I have reminders set on my phone. I don't use Facebook as much as I used to anymore. So I have calendar reminders um letting me know when is your birthday and stuff.
00:02:18
Trio of Positivity
But apparently, this happened years ago. I set reminders to remind me a week ago and then the day before. Why do I need to know a week before that it's your birthday? I don't know.
00:02:31
Bhupen
yeah Maybe it'll send us gifts someday.
00:02:33
Bhupen
I don't know.
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Mike
Because we're were important.
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Trio of Positivity
i
00:02:35
Mike
That's why.
00:02:36
Trio of Positivity
but okay but then I was like looking at it, and then the first time I saw it, it was for Miller because Miller's birthday is first. And I look at it, and I'm like, oh, it's his birthday. Oh, it's not his birthday. It's letting me know that it's his birthday a week from now.
00:02:51
Trio of Positivity
That's not useful at all.
00:02:51
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:02:53
Trio of Positivity
Like that, like the way that the iPhone message pops up to let you know, like you have a reminder, it's like, oh, it's the it's the day of. But no, I have that reminder for one week and then I have Boopin's reminder for one week.
00:03:06
Trio of Positivity
And yeah, so I I I know Facebook, one of the greatest inventions was people putting their Facebook birthdays on there and you just get a little notification every time you wake up.
00:03:17
Mike
That is literally the only way to do it.
00:03:19
Trio of Positivity
That's I'm trying to change it. I'm going to go straight to phone where it's.
00:03:23
Bhupen
all my All my important people are also on my calendar. But, okay, why the day before? The day off makes sense. So you can say, hey, happy birthday, bud. Why the day before?
00:03:32
Trio of Positivity
I schedule text messages saying happy birthday and ever since the send later.
00:03:36
Mike
Oh my gosh. You're such a loser.
00:03:39
Trio of Positivity
yeah I that way I make sure I send it.
00:03:41
Bhupen
and That's actually smart. That's actually smart.
00:03:43
Trio of Positivity
I send it. I don't have to worry about it. i It's done. Send later is the greatest thing that's ever created. And so I have it specifically designed for certain text message groups, certain things, and it works.
00:03:56
Mike
can um Can we be honest for a second?
00:03:58
Trio of Positivity
Sure.
00:03:59
Mike
I have no idea how to do sends later. I didn't even know it was an option.
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Bhupen
I don't think.
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Trio of Positivity
Hit the plus button on the side, and there's a button that says send later, and you can schedule it with a date and time. It's the greatest thing ever.
00:04:09
Mike
So you like you like send it once a year, you schedule it later for a year from now?
00:04:13
Trio of Positivity
Can I schedule that far ahead now? Hold on.
00:04:15
Bhupen
I mean, if you're doing ah if you're doing a reminder a week before, that's what I would do.
00:04:16
Trio of Positivity
I want to see.
00:04:19
Bhupen
But I do that with Slack.
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Trio of Positivity
Send later.
00:04:21
Bhupen
I do that with Gmail. I didn't i could do that with iMessages. But I'll check it out. um Before we get into
00:04:27
Trio of Positivity
No, it only lets you go ah two weeks in a head two weeks ahead. That's the highest it lets you go.
00:04:32
Bhupen
Good to know. Good to know.
00:04:35
Trio of Positivity
But yeah, happy birthday, boys.
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Bhupen
Quick social plug. Thank you. Thank you. um Miller, how was your birthday?
00:04:39
Mike
Thank you.
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Bhupen
How'd it go?
00:04:42
Mike
who's It was, was good. Uneventful.
00:04:45
Bhupen
Yeah? Got yourself some whiskey as birthday gifts, I heard.
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Mike
Uh, no.
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Mike
I did not.
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Trio of Positivity
Allegedly.
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Mike
I drank some.
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Trio of Positivity
Allegedly.
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Mike
But no, it was an uneventful shit, to dude.
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Bhupen
um I might get... i um I might give myself a tattoo.
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Trio of Positivity
Is it the older that we get, the less that we just want to do now? Are we at that point in our lives? know. mean, you guys have kids, so I don't know if it's like a little bit different. Maybe when they're older, they're going to run to you with their gifts and whatnot. But like.
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Bhupen
No.
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Trio of Positivity
I know the older that I get is just like, oh, it's my birthday. I'm good.
00:05:18
Bhupen
i was I was telling people, after you're 25, I don't know, 24, not that it matters, it's 30.
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Trio of Positivity
I think 30. 30 is it.
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Bhupen
thirty
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Trio of Positivity
Yeah. And then.
00:05:27
Mike
0's and 5's. That's all I told Steph 0's and 5's.
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Trio of Positivity
Yes, that's what I was going say.
00:05:30
Mike
don't fucking give shit.
00:05:30
Trio of Positivity
Yep. After thirty s five and then zero, five then zero.
00:05:34
Bhupen
Alright, so it was neither.
00:05:35
Trio of Positivity
And the golden birthday. Have you guys had your golden birthdays already?
00:05:38
Bhupen
What is that?
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Mike
Yeah, it was when I was 11, bro.
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Trio of Positivity
You have? When you were 11?
00:05:43
Mike
You have to we all have.
00:05:45
Trio of Positivity
You have two golden birthdays, I believe.
00:05:48
Bhupen
The fuck it what the fuck is a golden birthday?
00:05:48
Mike
You don't.
00:05:51
Mike
The golden birthday, if am correct, which I may be wrong, is usually the day and you the day you were born and then that is your golden birthday.
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Trio of Positivity
I thought it was month and day.
00:06:03
Mike
So for me, it was August eleven So my golden birthday would be 11. That's how I always understood it.
00:06:11
Trio of Positivity
See, I thought it was two, and I can't remember if it was the month or the year.
00:06:18
Mike
I don't know. I've never heard the year thing, but I guess it could be a year
00:06:19
Bhupen
Alright.
Social Media Presence and Podcasting
00:06:22
Mike
thing.
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Bhupen
We'll take that offline and we'll post about it on our socials, which is on Facebook.
00:06:26
Trio of Positivity
No, we won't. But go ahead.
00:06:27
Bhupen
Which is on Facebook. Trio Positivity Podcast. At Twitter, X. We are at Trio Positivity. We have a YouTube channel. Trio Positivity Podcast. TikTok, always a question mark.
00:06:39
Bhupen
um We have a new website.
00:06:41
Trio of Positivity
Oh.
00:06:41
Bhupen
ah More things coming up there because we paid the dues, so we need to write some stuff up there. But all that coming up.
00:06:46
Mike
We did not pay the dues. It's literally inactive.
00:06:50
Trio of Positivity
No, it was paid automatically. So yes, the website.
00:06:53
Mike
Well, we tried to search it today and it didn't come up.
00:06:57
Trio of Positivity
Wait, really?
00:06:59
Mike
Yeah.
00:06:59
Bhupen
you better You better get your money back. But as Chris is doing that, maybe Mila I'll throw it to you.
00:07:01
Trio of Positivity
Hold on.
00:07:06
Bhupen
um Any big takeaways from Seasonal?
00:07:08
Mike
Now Chris gets to go first because I'm going to do whatever one he doesn't take.
00:07:12
Bhupen
Okay. Preseason week one reactions. I got something, but I think, like, you guys might hit on it, too, so I can go last or first.
00:07:20
Trio of Positivity
Um, so just to recap from our conversation, um, we already knew that the starters were mostly not going to play. Um, I think only one of the starters got some touches, the alleged starter, which is, um, one of our tackles.
00:07:35
Bhupen
Mm-hmm.
00:07:35
Trio of Positivity
Um, yeah, for the bears.
00:07:35
Bhupen
Oh, you're talking the Bears. Okay, cool.
00:07:38
Mike
we're We're talking about overall takeaways.
00:07:40
Bhupen
Overall? The bears are fine, too.
00:07:44
Trio of Positivity
Oh, of what? Of the game?
00:07:46
Mike
The whole preseason.
00:07:46
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:07:49
Trio of Positivity
yeah.
00:07:49
Mike
Preseason week one takeaway.
00:07:51
Trio of Positivity
Oh, preseason. I am so sorry. I thought you were jumping straight into the Bears. I'm so sorry, guys. um
00:07:58
Trio of Positivity
It's letting me know that summer's almost over.
00:08:01
Bhupen
Okay.
00:08:01
Trio of Positivity
I think that's what preseason...
00:08:02
Mike
Jesus, do you even know what to fucking talk about, bro? Okay, fine.
00:08:07
Trio of Positivity
I don't know.
00:08:07
Mike
I'll go first since you're not going to stick it.
00:08:07
Trio of Positivity
it was just... and Well, let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish.
00:08:11
Bhupen
That
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Trio of Positivity
I will say preseason for me, it's always the marker that summer is almost over. So like I always hate preseason week one. um Ever since they shortened the schedule of preseason, I now look forward more to week two.
00:08:25
Trio of Positivity
But yeah, week one, was it was great to see some highlights.
00:08:29
Mike
Okay. So for me,
00:08:33
Mike
it was Mr. Little who knocked a 70 yard field goal.
00:08:39
Bhupen
Yeah, baby.
00:08:40
Mike
That was insane.
00:08:41
Bhupen
That was nuts.
00:08:41
Mike
And some people in this chat think that we're going to be hitting 85 in like 10 years. And I'm still out on that. But, um, it was definitely four
00:08:49
Trio of Positivity
It's 15 more yards, brother.
NFL Preseason Highlights and Strategies
00:08:51
Mike
yards more than, than we've seen in the past.
00:08:55
Mike
And it is, it kind of sucks for him because it technically doesn't count. because it wasn't during the regular season, so it's not going to be on the record books. But he did it. 70 yards for the Panthers, right?
00:09:07
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:09:08
Mike
Very impressive.
00:09:08
Bhupen
Oh, no. No, Jacksonville.
00:09:10
Mike
Was it Jacksonville? Jacksonville. And I saw something today. He's never missed an extra point in his career. High school, college, and NFL.
00:09:21
Trio of Positivity
I'm sorry, have have to cut this off. This is the funniest thing I think I've ever seen in my life.
00:09:32
Trio of Positivity
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Trio of Positivity
Who the fuck are these guys, bro? Who the fuck are these guys?
00:09:58
Bhupen
Wait, that images or what?
00:09:59
Trio of Positivity
No, just- I'm sending it in the group chat.
00:10:03
Mike
Are you talking about the AI?
00:10:03
Trio of Positivity
oh Oh.
00:10:09
Bhupen
I can see shit. Can you share your screen or something?
00:10:13
Trio of Positivity
um Yeah. I sent it. I sent it.
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Mike
Welcome to our podcast. This is fun.
00:10:33
Bhupen
Wait, wait.
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Trio of Positivity
guys?
00:10:37
Mike
yeah I didn't get the picture, but that's pretty fun.
00:10:39
Bhupen
Wait.
00:10:42
Bhupen
Yeah, you don't see.
00:10:42
Trio of Positivity
Zoom in!
00:10:44
Bhupen
You don't see the picture on the computer somehow.
00:10:45
Mike
Oh, I don't see the picture on the computer, but I saw the picture on your phone.
00:10:49
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:10:51
Mike
Awesome. Awesome. That was a great segment.
00:10:53
Trio of Positivity
Oh, who the fuck is that, bro?
00:10:53
Mike
It was awesome.
00:10:57
Bhupen
Wait, is it a different podcast or it's our podcast?
00:11:00
Trio of Positivity
No, it's our description, but who the fuck are these guys?
00:11:01
Bhupen
No. No, no, no, no, no.
00:11:04
Mike
I am actually pretty impressed that AI
00:11:05
Bhupen
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00:11:08
Mike
grabbed our shit though.
00:11:08
Bhupen
Dude, it's a different podcast. Mindset, purpose, and relationships.
00:11:12
Trio of Positivity
Okay, put it all together, one word.
00:11:15
Mike
Well, mine didn't mine talked about the term is also used in context of sports, such as the trio positivity podcast, which focuses on finding optimism within the Chicago sports landscape.
00:11:26
Trio of Positivity
That's mouthful.
00:11:26
Bhupen
Oh, shit. Hey, we we we we made it up to Google.
00:11:29
Mike
Okay. Are we going to like start this over?
00:11:31
Bhupen
No.
00:11:31
Trio of Positivity
No, we're we're rolling with this, brother.
00:11:31
Bhupen
No.
00:11:33
Trio of Positivity
this is the funniest shit. this This is the funniest thing that's ever happened with Trio Positivity.
00:11:38
Bhupen
That's pretty good. But...
00:11:39
Mike
Really the funniest thing, like the funniest thing or the funniest thing.
00:11:40
Bhupen
ah
00:11:41
Trio of Positivity
Yes. Yes.
00:11:44
Bhupen
Okay. My takeaway was... um it It was like an interesting... preseason week one, because like, Chris always talks about it, the schedule's changed, you don't know who's playing, who's not playing.
00:12:00
Bhupen
decent amount starters didn't play, but like, Patrick Mahomes played, and Bryce Young played, right? Like, so like, Tua played, so it's interesting, Joe Burrow played, like, I mean, Burrow is a different thing, like, the Bengals are doing a different thing, but it's like, kind of interesting to see, like, how teams are also like, there's no blanket, this is the right way to do it, they're all doing their own thing, so that was like, kind of cool to see, um, while,
00:12:07
Mike
Joe Burrow played.
00:12:22
Bhupen
Like Patrick Mahomes, i like it's the same ah offense, right? Nothing's changed, but he's out there that like that shows something. um Some teams that had to prove something, like I think Miami did. That's why Tua was out there.
00:12:33
Bhupen
um Bryce, they're probably trying to figure some stuff out with them. that was That was like slightly interesting to me. I think this week, most starters, I think, will play. Maybe the Rams and stuff. May not play, but I think majority of the starters will go on this week. But it was interesting to see, like, what what approaches teams were taking.
00:12:53
Bhupen
um There was no blanket, like, this is the way to do it kind of a thing. So, that you know, added some zing to the mix for sure.
00:13:01
Mike
Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that teams are realizing that the lack of tackling in practice, the lack of physical contact in practice really shows up in the first four weeks of the season. So if you can get that game experience, it helps in the long run, even though it does...
00:13:23
Mike
open you up to injuries just like anything that they do on the practice field. But I think teams are starting to realize that.
00:13:34
Bhupen
Yeah, that was fascinating. um I'm talking about preseason week one, bringing it home here. The Bears played that we played the Dolphins. You know, we may touch on the practice they had beforehand in one of our takeaways. But it was a pretty, um you know, it's a pretty.
00:13:56
Bhupen
one-sided game i don't know if i can call that because it was a draw but lot more positives I think on the Bears side especially on the defensive side than uh for the for the Miami uh side in my opinion um here's a big takeaway for me not many starters played for the Bears uh like um Chris said ah Braxton Jones of left tackle was the only starter quote-unquote starter that played um On the Miami side, Tua and crew definitely had a series.
00:14:25
Bhupen
Was it two Miller? they just add one series?
00:14:27
Mike
No, I think it was just one series.
00:14:29
Bhupen
ah It was one series. They couldn't punch it in. think it was a fourth down that they turned over, I'm assuming, because there was no points. um So, again, a good show for the defense there.
00:14:40
Bhupen
um I can give my takeaways, Miller, and I'll throw it to you I think the defense played hard, and, like, we've had this chat offline, so maybe we bring it here. um a lot more pursuing the ball. I think playing aggressive football, like there was like lots of people like on the backside of the play running and tackling the play on the other side that, that I saw that I really liked.
00:15:01
Bhupen
Um, the offense, I feel like, There was more separation. Mostly talk about Luther Burden's snaps that I saw a couple of them. There like, good separation there. i don't know if it's a scheme.
00:15:13
Bhupen
Maybe it's a second, third-tier defensive players playing out there, too. But wide receivers seem to have some separations there. though That was my big takeaway there. um And, yeah, let let's start there. we We have some concerns about Caleb and them. We'll save it for the second half of this conversation then. That was my takeaways from the Bears-Miami.
00:15:34
Bhupen
24-24 tie. Boys got anything? Yeah.
00:15:38
Bhupen
he's got anything
00:15:38
Mike
you want me to go?
00:15:39
Bhupen
yeah
00:15:41
Mike
Okay, just to follow up on what you just talked about. Yeah, I mean, I think, first of all, when you're talking a preseason game with a lot of second and third strings, you're going to see a high energy output.
00:15:55
Mike
And you saw that exactly this week. They were flying around the field as they should, right? They're they're playing for their job for most of these guys. So you expect the high energy. You also can talk about the the fact that some of these guys are not...
00:16:14
Mike
ah Ben Johnson guys like the big guy or the big one that was talked about significantly was Noah Sewell. He is a linebacker that came up with Eberflus that is currently fighting between him and the fifth rounder that we just drafted, Ruben Hippolyte.
00:16:33
Mike
And Noah Sewell played with a different energy that we never saw last year. So maybe there is a change of culture going on in the stadium that is showing itself on the field. ah And that much.
00:16:45
Mike
um Big takeaways here. Austin Booker. Huge game. Three sacks. Three tackles for loss. And a forced fumble. He is our the fourth rounder that we drafted last year.
00:16:59
Mike
He's an edge. we were wait We wanted to see if he was going to take a next step. We'll see if this is it. Albeit it was against second and third stringers.
00:17:11
Mike
We'll see. We don't know. Boopin touched on it a little bit. Braxton Jones and Ozzie Trapillo both played. They're the left tackles. um I want to focus on this game right now, but let's just say the left tackle and right tackle situation got a lot messier today that we'll get into.
00:17:30
Mike
um So they both played. Braxton Jones had a huge missed block on the goal line. Thankfully, Agent Bagent was still able to hit his guy in the back of the end zone for the touchdown on that play.
00:17:44
Mike
And then you have to look at the running back situation. Roshon Johnson got hurt in this game and wasn't able to play. And who stepped up? The backups.
00:17:55
Mike
Kyle Manungai. Our seventh round pick had a pretty decent game. And then one of the stars of um yeah hard knocks last year, Ian Wheel, had a great game.
00:18:08
Bhupen
Yeah, buddy.
00:18:09
Mike
So they were both in. And they're both trying to take the spots. So if Roshan continues to have injury issues, one of these guys could take his spot. So it's interesting to see this running back situation. Obviously, DeAndre Swift is our number one.
00:18:24
Mike
But you know how Ben Johnson runs his scheme. He's done it since we've seen him be an the offensive coordinator. He has two backs. So who's going to be that second second back that's going to take those short yardage plays?
00:18:37
Mike
So we'll see. was ah It was an uneventful game. 24-24 tie kind of sucks at the end of it, but it'll be it'll be interesting to see, man. It was the first coach game by Ben Johnson.
00:18:50
Mike
Pretty decent as far as using the time. We had a field goal with one second to go in the first half, which was pretty impressive. So hopefully time management is on our side these days because we all know it wasn't last year.
00:19:06
Bhupen
Yeah. Chris, you got any takeaways? I got some points from Miller otherwise.
00:19:10
Trio of Positivity
um I mean, I was going to touch on that. It was a 57 yarder, which would have been a career high for Santos.
00:19:19
Bhupen
Yeah, that's sad.
00:19:20
Trio of Positivity
um Yeah. And we're over here talking about 70 yards, like possibly being a new norm in the future. You never know.
00:19:29
Mike
That's you.
00:19:29
Trio of Positivity
um
00:19:29
Mike
that's you
00:19:30
Trio of Positivity
I mean, hey, it's starting to happen. I think I noticed someone was trying to kick like a 63 yard or two.
00:19:33
Bhupen
Eh.
00:19:36
Trio of Positivity
um But I feel like you can get away with doing it in preseason just for for funsies. um I will say the
00:19:47
Trio of Positivity
It's game one, so I don't want to do too much like cut monday Monday morning QBing. I think it was fine. The defense played great. um It looks like they were switching back and forth a lot.
00:20:00
Trio of Positivity
um So it it seemed fine. ah The only thing I would probably say that... is the negative is we didn't see our starters, but I think it was, uh, it was already discussed in the press conference that, um, we will see them in game two.
00:20:17
Trio of Positivity
So we'll see.
00:20:18
Bhupen
yeah and and i think we have some points about that too coming up but um talking about running backs miller did you see kyle manangai like try and block bradley chubb who's like probably one of the more impressive defensive is he a linebacker i think might be a lineman yeah but like yeah like it was like i was pretty impressive like manangai on him was like
00:20:38
Mike
He's an outside linebacker, yeah.
00:20:44
Bhupen
They asked him about him, too, and it was funny. But talking about Ozzy, Trapilo, and Braxton Jones, yes, Braxton Jones had that one, um you know, pretty costly mistake.
00:20:55
Bhupen
But, like, i think overall, he looked solid. Like, Ozzy has a higher ceiling, perhaps, but I think Ozzy still has some ways to go.
00:21:06
Bhupen
The defensive players were just chopping him and getting around him a couple times, um while Braxton, apart from the one play you mentioned, was fairly solid. So I feel like, yes, there is competition, which is good to see, right?
00:21:18
Bhupen
it's It's our second-round player like pushing our starter. That's really good to see, but I feel like while there's competition, Braxton Jones probably isn' in the lead, too. there.
00:21:30
Mike
Yeah.
00:21:30
Bhupen
um Wanted to push back on Austin Booker's too. He had a great preseason last last year. If Bears are the preseason champs, he's the preseason champ of the Bears.
00:21:40
Bhupen
He had a great preseason last year too. People were pumped about him. think it was the game against... It was the first game or the second game last year where he had an amazing game last year too, but It'll be awesome to see him in the regular season. There'll be additional depth for us, but yeah, ah it'll be really fun to see where where he ends up.
00:21:59
Bhupen
Do you want to touch on Caleb not starting Miller and like what, what rumors were out there or what stuff stories were out there after that?
00:22:06
Mike
Yeah, so I'll kind of run through the entire scenario. So basically Ben Johnson came out ah early last week and made the announcement that no starters were going to play.
00:22:19
Mike
Subsequently, before the game on Sunday, Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams and the rest of the offensive starters, if you will, through, well, they went through 76 plays.
00:22:32
Mike
place um basically simulating a game that whole fucking shabby and whatever. Ben Johnson came out saying that it was above and beyond anything you could expect. It was so much better than anything that you could have got from the game, bob blah, blah, blah, blah. But what is your overall i'll take um on Caleb not playing? Because, well, you guys just answered that question with not getting any reps in a real game.
00:23:04
Bhupen
Chris, I know you got some opinions.
00:23:06
Trio of Positivity
Well, I want to ask you guys first. it's It's week one. He's not going to get 76, you said, Miller? He's not going to get 76 touches.
00:23:16
Mike
Yeah.
00:23:18
Trio of Positivity
you know i mean i mean, if you and a quarterback has to go and do 76 planned plays that early, like I think that's a bit much. But we probably would have seen him one drive, maybe two. Yeah.
00:23:34
Bhupen
yeah
00:23:35
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, I mean, it's not like before where, what was it, week three, where they played the whole first half. um
00:23:42
Bhupen
I think that'll be this week for a lot of teams.
00:23:43
Trio of Positivity
And that... I don't know if they do the first half anymore, though. I have yet to really see that.
00:23:49
Mike
Usually it's game two
00:23:49
Trio of Positivity
Where...
00:23:50
Mike
Game two this week is the game where they usually play the longest. Usually it's about a half.
00:23:54
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:23:56
Trio of Positivity
Okay, I mean, we'll see if they go a half. um My thing is, like,
00:24:03
Trio of Positivity
I know that there's people that watch preseason games and they're like, oh, well, it's a new coach. The new coach doesn't want to have the playbook shown with the starter, stuff like that. I honestly don't know. i've I've seen ah couple clips out there of people showing concern that he didn't play where all of these other stars did play, and it's like...
00:24:23
Trio of Positivity
I'm very like, eh, about it. Like if I saw him for a drive and went six for six, you know, with a touchdown, everyone's going to be like, oh my God, it's a Super Bowl. You know, it's like, so I feel like this was an okay way to kind of like calm it down, but I would have liked to see more, I guess, from the O-line or just something to kind of see where his growth might be.
00:24:43
Trio of Positivity
Like if if we have the starting O-line just there with their first starters, obviously they got to see it in practice.
00:24:44
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:24:49
Trio of Positivity
So I'm, who am whom am i to say, you know?
00:24:52
Bhupen
I mean, like, realistically, right, like, having starters out there, especially for the Miami's case, it was not a positive, right? They were there because our defense showed up in the practice and made them look bad.
00:25:05
Bhupen
So Tua was out there singing the ball because they wanted to get some offensive rhythm, like you said, you know, get in a momentum, whatever. So having starters out there is not necessarily a good thing.
00:25:17
Bhupen
The other thing I'll probably say is like the fact that the entire offense was not there, even like Swift didn't play. And, you know, like DJ Moore wasn't out there. That tells me there's a little bit of a plan behind this madness. Right.
00:25:30
Bhupen
They probably went through a pretty rigorous um workout, it seems. But like even without that, sounds like there's a plan. um you know like how will it work will it not it's like a hindsight is 2020 but i feel like there is a plan method to this madness um and you know seems like ben johnson is happy with the progress they made in practice that's probably why he wasn't out there so i would like to view it positively i think
00:25:52
Mike
Yeah, ah conspiracy
00:25:53
Trio of Positivity
Miller, when you're done, can can you push it back to me? There's one thing I want to add, but I want to hear your point too.
00:25:57
Mike
the conspiracy theorists out there talk about the fact that they don't...
00:26:01
Bhupen
are they on twitter
00:26:02
Trio of Positivity
there It's Miller. Miller's our conspiracy theorist.
00:26:04
Mike
No, it's not. You're not letting me talk.
00:26:07
Bhupen
you
00:26:07
Mike
Talk about the fact that they fear that Ben Johnson knows Caleb isn't ready and he didn't want to put him on the field. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. We all know how I feel about this team. And I've come to the conclusion that we hired Ben Johnson for a reason. Just let Ben Johnson be Ben Johnson and stop trying to do what...
00:26:32
Mike
the fans want, right? And put them out there for a series because like Chris said, 76 plays there' a lot of plays. He's not going to get that in a game. So if it's anywhere near, it's probably going to be more beneficial than just a series, right? He's obviously not going to have the player's defense coming at him, right?
00:26:52
Mike
But at the end of the day, what are we most concerned about? We're most concerned that he can run a cadence and make sure his players know what's going on on the field. Go ahead, Chris.
00:27:02
Trio of Positivity
Um, yeah, so I'm going to take it away from what we saw in the field, and I just want to get your guys's opinion on this. I was actually looking at possibly going to the game.
00:27:16
Trio of Positivity
Tickets were actually pretty decently priced. I think it was like $35 for a grandstand like in the middle of the row kind of thing, which is pretty good. Especially those that go to Soldier Field, you know that the grandstands are like slanted very much down, so you you get a good view.
00:27:30
Bhupen
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:27:33
Trio of Positivity
If I am paying...
00:27:38
Trio of Positivity
$75, $80 to not watch my quarterback or my A-team show up. Preseason is done. Get rid of preseason or have one preseason game and get more regular season games. like it's You have your home crowd there. I think only like 40,000 showed up and Soldier Field is like 65.
00:28:01
Trio of Positivity
Just what's the point?
00:28:03
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:28:04
Mike
Okay, first of all, that's a horrible take.
00:28:07
Trio of Positivity
Why is it a horrible take, though?
00:28:09
Bhupen
I do. I do. i ah Chris, I'll back you up after Miller goes. I think I think I'm on the same page.
00:28:13
Mike
I understand the points, but the one thing, do you know how expensive it is to go to a Chicago's Bear fan?
00:28:20
Trio of Positivity
ah Again, i said...
00:28:20
Mike
These are the things that I have to think about with the two children. Like, if I was to go as a family,
00:28:24
Trio of Positivity
Again, i completely get that.
00:28:27
Mike
I'm paying probably a grand to go to a game.
00:28:31
Bhupen
At least.
00:28:31
Mike
When you're talking about tickets, when you're talking about food, when you're talking about drinks, parking, you're looking at a grand minimum.
00:28:37
Trio of Positivity
Parking.
00:28:40
Mike
And then you talk about a preseason game where you can pick a $35 tickets. Do you think some of these kids that are there really give a shit? They don't know any better.
00:28:47
Trio of Positivity
Ah, but see there, now you, hold on. See, now you hit my point. you Regular season games are going to be more valuable in the sense that if you can have more regular season games, you will make more money by using your metrics.
00:29:01
Mike
But not to not to a child. The child isn't going to really care until they're in their teenagers.
00:29:04
Trio of Positivity
Doesn't matter. it's it's ah The child is not going to walk to Soldier Field and ask for one ticket. It's going to be carried by two other people. So you can't use that as a reference. Most of the children in that are, what, 10% maybe, 15%? It's not 50%. not the Explorer concert. I know.
00:29:18
Mike
I'm just saying calling the preseason.
00:29:19
Trio of Positivity
not a not a door of the explorer concert
00:29:22
Mike
I'm just saying calling the preseason meaningless is just like.
00:29:23
Bhupen
Hey, too soon, too soon. Too soon, Chris.
00:29:27
Mike
I mean, it's a good thing to get families there because the regular season is just outrageous.
00:29:27
Trio of Positivity
i know
00:29:32
Bhupen
No, ah Chris, I agree with you that the ah preseason, like the product seems broken and probably needs some intervention. um What I will say is like these preseason games, while it looks...
00:29:47
Bhupen
meaningless to us or like has less meaning to us. I think like it's important for the players to like get that first hit, right? Like live contact because like Miller was saying, in practice doesn't, i mean, some people did.
00:29:55
Trio of Positivity
But we didn't even get that.
00:29:57
Mike
What you talking about? It was a real NFL game, guys. Like, seriously, you guys act like it it wasn't an NFL game.
00:30:02
Bhupen
No, no, no, no, but like, hang on, hang on.
00:30:03
Mike
It was an NFL game. Like, we it was second and third stringers, yes, but, I mean, it was a just as physical as anything else.
00:30:10
Bhupen
I have not done yet.
00:30:10
Mike
It was just as action-packed as everything else.
00:30:11
Bhupen
i have more ranting to do. Excuse me.
00:30:13
Mike
It was just second and third stringers for the majority of the time, and I get your points.
00:30:16
Bhupen
I have more ranting to do, please.
00:30:18
Mike
You guys are acting like this what they did in the play.
00:30:18
Bhupen
So, no, like, what I was thinking, same thing like you said, Chris, like, like, going to a Bears regular season game, like, even for, like, family of not four million, I think a grand is easy.
00:30:18
Trio of Positivity
Go ahead. Continue with your ranting.
00:30:32
Bhupen
Like, three decent tickets, like, food, whatever, like, 11 to 100. Okay.
00:30:36
Bhupen
Okay.
00:30:36
Trio of Positivity
See, decent tickets, I think, yes, a grand.
00:30:38
Trio of Positivity
But if you just want to go there, you can definitely go for like $400. Okay.
00:30:42
Mike
No, you can't.
00:30:42
Bhupen
okay
00:30:44
Mike
You're not getting into Soldier Field for under a hundred and probably 30.
00:30:49
Bhupen
Yeah, like, someone someone was coming in.
00:30:49
Mike
Unless, unless it's January 1st.
00:30:53
Bhupen
Yeah, someone was coming in for, like, week three game on Reddit, and they were like, take it to, like, 2.30 a person. Is this normal? So everyone was like, wait a couple weeks, they'll suck a little bit, and then it'll get cheaper.
00:31:04
Bhupen
But yeah, like, 2.30 was the cheapest.
00:31:05
Trio of Positivity
And that's the resale, though. We're talking resale.
00:31:06
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:31:07
Trio of Positivity
Like, yeah.
00:31:07
Bhupen
I mean, I mean.
00:31:08
Mike
I think box office, your minimum is 125.
00:31:12
Trio of Positivity
No. Box office for, like, people that get to. No. that I can tell you that. That's not true.
00:31:17
Mike
Pull it up It's not under a hundred, bro.
00:31:18
Bhupen
Okay. as you as you As you're doing that, let me finish my rant.
00:31:20
Trio of Positivity
Grandstands are, like, $85.
00:31:22
Mike
That is not factual.
00:31:25
Bhupen
So I'm i'm thinking, like like, preseason is what like I will take my kids to go. or like you know Because, one, they don't care about the game. Two, it's probably more about the ambience, the experience. I can tell them stuff. There'll be less crowd, whatever.
00:31:40
Bhupen
But even that experience is like, died like they need to do something. That's what my whole point was like. the preseason experience maybe they add kids can run into the field i don't know something dumb like that that would like kind of like zoos is up but for now the preseason exp experience it's neither as competitive as a regular preseason game like like i know it's cheaper but like the product itself is not as appealing to me to go for even for the cheaper prices is what i wanted to say
00:32:07
Mike
Yeah, it's fair. I mean, at the end of the day, it doesn't really count, right? But it'll probably mine very soon.
00:32:13
Bhupen
all right
00:32:14
Mike
Okay, let's move on from this. Talking about depressing the cost of games when I can sit on the fucking couch and get Red Zone and the game on one TV.
00:32:16
Bhupen
Cool. Now.
00:32:24
Bhupen
i that That's the other part. I enjoy Red Zone too much to go. but But.
00:32:29
Trio of Positivity
See, that's different, though.
00:32:29
Bhupen
All
00:32:30
Trio of Positivity
All right, I'm going in a tangent. Go ahead.
00:32:33
Bhupen
all right. We are bringing people
Fantasy Football Insights
00:32:34
Bhupen
on to the greatest segment ever. You know, the segment that will win a money this year. we are reintroducing the fantasy segments. yeah know your Your drafts are coming up.
00:32:45
Bhupen
Our drafts are coming up, so we need to get back into the flow of things and just to get things started. For today's episode, we brought you top 12 quarterbacks and top 24 wide receivers broken down to tiers.
00:32:59
Bhupen
um You know, we'll probably say a little bit about each one, and of tell you how to prioritize ah drafting these in in your drafts for the most part.
00:33:10
Bhupen
um Yeah, that's the general plan. um I can start us off, boys. um I'll go tier by tier. ah Pause briefly if you guys have any any things to add. if If that sounds good, we can kick it off right here.
00:33:24
Bhupen
All right, let's start with the quarterbacks. um You know, the trend last, don't know, five years-ish was like, hey, late, pick up a decent quarterback, you'll be okay.
00:33:35
Bhupen
Last couple of years, that's like kind of flipped on its head. The quarterbacks up top are really worth picking early. They're really the difference makers. They're usually at the end of the year, they have like... The reason you win or don't win your championship. So um especially like top tier quarterbacks, in my opinion, when I was making a face, so he'll probably have a rebuttal, hopefully.
00:33:55
Bhupen
And um but tier one, I think is worth picking up earlier than you would normally go for a quarterback. And these are usually the mobile guys that'll give you the extra yardage on the ground, maybe a touchdown here and there.
00:34:09
Bhupen
tier-one quarterback, in my opinion, are Josh Allen from the Bills, Lamar Jackson from the Ravens, Jim Daniels from ah Washington, and Jalen Hurst from the Eagles. I feel like because of their mobility, I put them on tier one.
00:34:22
Bhupen
In my opinion, they're clear like you know difference maker in their position and worth taking higher. Miller, speak.
00:34:33
Mike
I don't know. um First of all, like if you're talking about Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, you're going to have to take them in the second round. I don't necessarily know that the value is there comparatively.
00:34:47
Mike
i would much rather go for ah Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts, if I'm going to even do that. I am still not of the mindset to even consider them when I'm drafting.
00:35:00
Mike
It's just too much value you're giving up in that position for a quarterback. Yes, they're studs. But you know what? Injuries happen, and I don't know. It's just a lot to commit to one position when realistically the you can get diamonds in the rough. You can stream quarterbacks.
00:35:17
Mike
doesn't work out great usually, but you can do it.
00:35:21
Bhupen
Now, it's a different way of thinking. Last couple of years, I've been lucky enough to have Jalen Hurts. He's like, put him there and...
00:35:27
Mike
Have you won any championships with Jalen Hurts?
00:35:29
Bhupen
Okay, he gets hurt at the end.
00:35:30
Mike
Ha ha ha ha ha! Got him!
00:35:33
Bhupen
ah yeah like I don't know if that's the best argument.
00:35:34
Mike
Got him!
00:35:37
Bhupen
like like Any player on like any given day could get hurt. But i like I consistently am in the top of the league. I'm towards the top of the league, one of the best teams that scores the most amount of points. I'm happy with that, right?
00:35:49
Bhupen
I'm stacking my chances of winning better than having to find someone every week, every other week, fighting with other people on the way around. don't have to do that. I like that, especially when it comes with a positional advantage.
00:36:01
Bhupen
ah that's That's just my personal opinion. But it's good to have some pushback. um Tier 2, right below them, are like pretty efficient, probably proven quarterbacks at this point. um I have Joe Burrow from the Bengals, Patrick Mahomes from the Chiefs, and Baker Mayfield from the Bucs.
00:36:19
Bhupen
in tier two, um you know, like, they're not as mobile, they can run, all of them are have cable running, but it's usually not the first thing they do, they probably do it, you know, just to keep a play going, you know, get some sneaky yards here and there, but I feel like they are the next year of quarterbacks there, typically going, like,
00:36:36
Mike
No. um Joe Burrow is tier two. I would argue he's probably tier one. Patrick Mahomes, if you're talking fantasy, hasn't been tier two in a while.
00:36:41
Trio of Positivity
I would probably say tier one, yeah.
00:36:46
Mike
I know a lot of people are projecting a bounce back this year, but with the potential suspension for Rasheed Rice, there's no guarantee that things are going any better. Kelsey's one year older. Worthy is worthy, right?
00:36:58
Mike
um Hollywood Brown is still Hollywood Brown. He's always hurt. So they still only have worthy. what What's to say that that he's automatically going to come back and have a great year? I'm not sold on him. Baker, if you look at his statistics, he had a a really abnormal rushing last year compared to his norm.
00:37:20
Bhupen
Mm-hmm.
00:37:20
Mike
Normally he runs for about 150, 160 yards.
00:37:24
Mike
Last year he was almost at 500. So the expectation is that he may go back, to his normal rushing amount. And if that does happen, he immediately drops significantly because last year he had a lot of touchdowns and he had high rushing.
00:37:40
Mike
So who knows what's going to happen with Baker. There is some risk there. So I don't like that at all.
00:37:46
Bhupen
It is a different offensive coordinator in Tampa. They may go back, but the fact that they were uber successful last year, they had a really good year. I feel like they may do something that worked.
00:37:59
Mike
But he had a lot of big runs. He had like 30, 40 yard runs.
00:38:03
Bhupen
But these these were not like drawn up runs, right? These were runs like he was opportunistic.
00:38:07
Mike
Yeah, but he's never done that his whole career. That's the point.
00:38:10
Bhupen
But that's what I'm saying. It worked last year, so I feel like they are probably...
00:38:13
Mike
But you can't, you can't, you can't say they're opt-to, oh my God.
00:38:21
Trio of Positivity
Words.
00:38:21
Mike
opportunistic. You can't say they're opportunistic and then say, well, he's never done them his entire career. So, well, it'll happen. They can schedule it. Can't say both things.
00:38:32
Bhupen
No, i'm I'm not saying he's going to rush. I said they're definitely not rushing. None of them are. Patrick Mahomes and Jobar, they're not like run first, but like I feel like they're sneaky. They can run. They'll extend plays and usually is an advantage to their position.
00:38:46
Bhupen
um I put them higher just looking at the guys but but below them. They slightly proven. That's why I put them there. um That's a good segue into Tier 3 for me. um Tier 3 is Bo Nix, Kyler Murray, Justin Fields, Brock Purdy, Justin Herbert, and Dak Prescott for me.
00:39:05
Bhupen
And that like kind of wraps up the top 12 quarterbacks. um Like, you know, um slightly, like, especially Bo Nix, more unproven than proven. Kyler Murray up and down, I get it. But um I think in terms of quarterbacks, you can get these guys, like, probably around 8 through, like, 7 through 9, 8 through 10.
00:39:26
Bhupen
So, like, you're not investing a lot. And especially a couple of them there, I believe in them. I'm not saying I believe in all of them, but looking at the stats, they see these are, like, the consensus tier three quarterbacks that I found.
00:39:37
Mike
i I have the decision to make if I want to keep Bo Nix or Baker Mayfield or neither. And everybody's very high on Bo Nix. And it very much scares me to make a decision with that because he is a second-year quarterback, but he does have that rushing floor like a – um like a tier two, we'll say.
00:40:01
Mike
yeah He gets that 500 yards. He rushed in college. He went to Oregon. So you know he has the legs under him to do it. It's just do I trust him? And the one thing he has going for him...
00:40:13
Mike
He has one of the best offensive minds in football in Sean Payton. So if you look at his stats from last year, think it's week 8 to week 18. He was on pace to throw for 4,200 yards and 40-something touchdowns as well. so If they can figure him out and they can do what all these offensive minds do, just like Kyle Shanaman did with Purdy,
00:40:41
Mike
he could be successful because he does offer that rushing floor. Justin Fields, get the fuck out here, f bro. Tier 3, fucking shit. He could be benched by week 6.
00:40:53
Bhupen
Dude, like, his rushing, again, i don't know i know why you've been such a hater, his rushing alone, like, that's what will bring him value. he wouldn and He never gave you fancy value as a passer.
00:41:04
Mike
Okay. Give me the last time Justin Fields gave you fantasy value.
00:41:09
Bhupen
Like, he was a league winner a couple years ago, wasn't he, at the end of the year?
00:41:12
Mike
No, he was not. Okay. At the end of the year, maybe i don't think he was ever that good. Like the year that he was supposed to do good, he never translated. I think you're right. I think there was a few games back in his sophomore year, like towards the end that got him really hyped, which is why we said he could be MVP.
00:41:31
Mike
But like, I mean, it didn't, it translated to shit.
00:41:35
Bhupen
Okay, who would you throw in there that I missed?
00:41:39
Mike
I don't know. I haven't looked close enough.
00:41:42
Trio of Positivity
Way to do your research, bud. um One thing i ah I will say, though, just looking at this list alone,
00:41:45
Mike
I can.
00:41:51
Trio of Positivity
I think Herbert could have a breakout, but I also know that Purdy has the easiest schedule.
00:41:59
Bhupen
Does.
00:41:59
Trio of Positivity
ah remember.
00:42:00
Bhupen
You're right.
00:42:01
Trio of Positivity
um And I think bills are also up there with like the easy schedule and the jets. But like, I don't know if that really matters when it comes to fame.
00:42:06
Bhupen
yeah
00:42:08
Trio of Positivity
I know it matters for like sports books where they start looking at that. Cause I think the bears have like,
00:42:14
Bhupen
Fifth hardest or something. Yeah.
00:42:16
Trio of Positivity
And then they have like nine games with like teams that made the playoffs or something like that, nine or 10 games, something like that.
00:42:21
Bhupen
Yeah, we're playing the NFC West, yeah. And I'm to North, yeah.
00:42:24
Trio of Positivity
So like you kind of have to take that into consideration too. um But like looking at the list, I, the only thing I can kind of see is I would probably put fields a little bit lower.
00:42:39
Trio of Positivity
i wouldn't have them at tier three yet. um Maybe Herbert could be two, but Burrow should definitely be one.
00:42:44
Mike
No. You can't have Herbert that high, dude. That's a rushing offense.
00:42:50
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:42:50
Trio of Positivity
But he still throws, though.
00:42:52
Bhupen
He does.
00:42:52
Mike
Yeah, but it's mainly rushing offense.
00:42:54
Trio of Positivity
I know, but ah you never know. I don't know. i I think every time I see Herbert play, I always just see him gunning it out.
00:42:59
Bhupen
Like... The name you guys didn't see, Tier 3, Dak Prescott, I feel like his upside is probably Tier 2. Maybe even higher.
00:43:07
Mike
Yeah, I agree with that.
00:43:09
Trio of Positivity
i agree.
00:43:09
Bhupen
Like... Like, I... Like, that... They have no running game. Like, I don't know who their running backs are.
00:43:13
Mike
They have no defense.
00:43:14
Bhupen
They have no defense. Like, the he's gonna have to throw...
00:43:18
Mike
They have two number one wide receivers almost.
00:43:20
Bhupen
I think the heel...
00:43:20
Trio of Positivity
But I think they also have like the shittiest schedule too, right?
00:43:23
Bhupen
Did they? I don't remember. They didn't...
00:43:26
Trio of Positivity
I thought they were like top five or 10 in schedule.
00:43:30
Bhupen
They finished second last in the division, so not terrible, but don't know who they play, NFC East. But, no, I think he might be last year's Joe Burrow, if, like, that some of the things keep... He just has to throw it and keep up every time.
00:43:45
Bhupen
And then i I hope that's a good year for him. Yeah, like, again, um you know, some ceiling, some floor, but, like, in my opinion, that's how I bunched them up. Moving on to wide receivers.
00:43:59
Bhupen
um The tier one, the upper echelon people. are Jamar Chase from the Bengals, Justin Jefferson from the Vikings, and C.D.
00:44:05
Trio of Positivity
It's my boy.
00:44:09
Bhupen
Lamb from the Cowboys. ah The only name from offense we haven't talked about, we already talked about Oro and Prescott, Justin Jefferson, like... um You know, people doubted him last year.
00:44:21
Bhupen
He finished as wide receiver two overall. um You know, like kind of like Sam Donalds came out of nowhere and was relevant. So he hasn't finished ever worse than wide receiver nine.
00:44:33
Bhupen
um You know, with that offense, KOC being the offensive genius he is. That's probably the questionable part. But the talent is not, you know, questioned at all.
00:44:42
Trio of Positivity
I have a bone to pick with you, good sir.
00:44:42
Bhupen
I think. Yes, sir.
00:44:46
Trio of Positivity
If Jamar Chase is tier one, why aren't you pairing him and put Joe Burrow one? Why Burrow two, but Chase one?
00:44:53
Bhupen
Yeah, no, that that's a great question. I feel like, look at the, like, Tier 1, Tier 2 was likely, like, the the floor and the ceiling, right? So, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jalen Daniels, Jalen Hurts, because of the rushing, there's, like, a floor that's slightly higher than Joe Burrow.
00:45:08
Bhupen
Yes, Joe Burrow had, like, amazing ceiling games last year, but let's say things don't go well, right? Maybe, like, It's a good offense. They have two decent cornerbacks. They have, like, the you know, the passing game is slightly contained.
00:45:20
Bhupen
I feel like the ceiling gets much lower him. I think that's why Burrow is probably slightly lower because he doesn't have that rushing upside, like, 70, 80 yards, a touchdown here and there. think that could really raises the floor on a lot of the tier one cornerbacks.
00:45:32
Trio of Positivity
Are we really looking at running quarterbacks as being like the norm tier one now? Like, I feel like that shouldn't be the case.
00:45:38
Bhupen
I mean, fantasy works out that way.
00:45:39
Mike
It is the case, bro.
00:45:40
Bhupen
Yeah, yeah.
00:45:41
Trio of Positivity
I don't know. I just.
00:45:43
Mike
It brings another element of consistency.
00:45:45
Trio of Positivity
No, I understand the element part, but I just feel like like, is it make or break for tier ones? Like, I don't know.
00:45:52
Mike
No.
00:45:52
Bhupen
it's ah It's, like, fairly subjective, right?
00:45:53
Trio of Positivity
Like if it hurts, if hurts, didn't have a good run or didn't have the tush push, he'd be what? Tier two, tier three.
00:46:00
Bhupen
Oh, Jesus. People, like, hate him. Like, have you seen...
00:46:03
Mike
If he didn't have the tush push, he would probably be tier two.
00:46:03
Trio of Positivity
But you know what I'm saying?
00:46:08
Trio of Positivity
But that's what saying.
00:46:08
Mike
Tier three.
00:46:08
Trio of Positivity
so like, we're we're talking that much of a difference where it's
00:46:10
Mike
But he's the only questionable at one in that tier. Like Jaden and Lamar, they run the fucking shit out of the ball. I mean, they're the only argument that you can make for a non-running quarterback to go into tier one is Joe Burrow.
00:46:24
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:46:24
Bhupen
Like Herbert.
00:46:24
Mike
And that's just because the expectation is that he's going to put up 57 fucking touchdowns this year because their defense sucks.
00:46:31
Mike
But other than that, there's no one even close to the conversation. If you look at your normal pocket passers, they just don't put up the numbers because they have that rusher or something.
00:46:39
Bhupen
like herbert
00:46:42
Mike
They just don't put up those numbers to get basically in order to compete. You need to be getting 50 touchdowns a year because not only are passing touchdowns less significant than rushing, but you also have passing yards are less significant than rushing yards.
00:46:59
Mike
So both of those come to the detriment of a pocket passer like Joe Burrow. So you have to get stellar numbers to have a shot.
00:47:03
Bhupen
ah Or Justin Herbert, right? Like Herbert and Burrow, I think the talent is probably somewhat on a similar page.
00:47:11
Mike
Not even close.
00:47:11
Bhupen
but
00:47:12
Trio of Positivity
No, I don't.
00:47:12
Bhupen
No?
00:47:13
Trio of Positivity
I can't. Given given recent events,
00:47:14
Mike
Joe, it's my opinion Joe Burrow is the best quarterback in the NFL.
00:47:18
Trio of Positivity
I think Joe Burrow is top two, top three.
00:47:18
Mike
Bar none.
00:47:18
Bhupen
Oh, wow. Did you watch the Netflix series about him, Miller? Is that why you're so hyped?
00:47:26
Mike
I don't watch that shit.
00:47:27
Bhupen
Okay.
00:47:27
Trio of Positivity
He doesn't he doesn't watch sports.
00:47:28
Mike
No. Just watch him play, man.
00:47:29
Trio of Positivity
um
00:47:30
Bhupen
it It is pretty cool. um
00:47:32
Mike
The best pure quarterback. like Obviously, Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes, but like if you're going want a guy that's going to put up some big numbers, that's going be Joe Burrow. He can fucking throw the shit out the ball.
00:47:42
Bhupen
He definitely has a dog in him. I love that. um So that that was tier one for wide receivers, like alpha people up there. um Tier 2, slightly below them, so like, think end of first round, beginning of second round people.
00:47:57
Bhupen
um Nico Collins from the Texans, Huka Nakua from the Rams, Malik Neighbors from the Giants, Brian Thomas from Jacksonville, Amandrassan Brown from the Lions, AJ Brown from the Eagles, and Drake i look London from Falcons.
00:48:15
Bhupen
um These are tier two. um Really talented, high upside people. um Some questions here and there. um you know But for the most part, like they could break up into the... Some of them have the talent to break onto the top tier, in my opinion.
00:48:33
Mike
um I'm really hoping to get some Nico this year, but he, cause he's never healthy. He, he hasn't played a full season yet. I think this is year four, but I'd like to get some Nico.
00:48:41
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:48:44
Mike
Puka concerns me because you're bringing in Devante Adams. Puka historically hasn't been a touchdown guy. And now you have, excuse me, two individuals that take touch touchdowns with Kyron and Devante.
00:48:58
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:48:58
Mike
We'll see how that translates. Yeah.
00:48:59
Bhupen
Even Stafford getting her, like, streaks, like, that's more concerning to me.
00:49:03
Mike
Yeah, and then you got Stafford. Brian Thomas, I mean, it's kind of sad how little coverage Travis Hunter is getting.
00:49:14
Mike
on this team.
00:49:16
Bhupen
Mm-hmm.
00:49:16
Mike
Yes, you can say he's a freak and he's going to be a cornerback and a wide receiver. But like, if you look at where he's going in drafts, I think he's being drafted as like wide receiver 30.
00:49:27
Mike
third And let's remember, this guy was the second overall pick.
00:49:28
Bhupen
Oh, jeez. Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:31
Bhupen
yeah
00:49:31
Mike
And maybe ah some of that was due to the fact that he was just a two-way player. But like, He could have a bigger impact on Brian Thomas than people realize.
00:49:42
Mike
You don't know.
00:49:42
Bhupen
yeah
00:49:43
Mike
Amon Ross St. Brown, one thing that I'm seeing a lot of is Detroit players are very hyped up this year, which is a little weird considering the departure of Ben Johnson.
00:49:55
Mike
But a lot of people are talking about Amon Ross St. Brown, Jamison Williams that you'll get to in a little bit. And the fact that these guys are just continuing to build and build and it's just like, it's not really how it works.
00:50:07
Mike
Like, does anybody really expect this offense that was number one last year to continue to be number one?
00:50:07
Bhupen
Yes.
00:50:13
Mike
Like, I don't know. I'm sketchy on that. Um,
00:50:17
Trio of Positivity
I feel like every time we bring that up, though, they always seem to prove that number one offense is always seem to be still in like the top tier. So like I like we keep bringing it up every time. Like, well, they continue. where They continue. Like if a team doesn't go through many changes, like you can probably expect that the only the only difference would be the strength of schedule, like how good of a schedule you have.
Detroit Lions and Roster Analysis
00:50:37
Trio of Positivity
But like
00:50:37
Mike
But Chris, look at the team. they What are you talking about? They didn't go through changes. They lost two offensive linemen. They lost their off offensive coordinator. They lost multiple other coordinators. I mean, that's huge change.
00:50:47
Bhupen
think like
00:50:49
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but it's always like, I don't know. For me, it's always like teams that go through that many changes. It's always like a next man up mentality and they always seem to work out just fine.
00:50:59
Bhupen
i think like
00:50:59
Mike
I mean, they have the coach to do it.
00:50:59
Trio of Positivity
So like,
00:51:01
Bhupen
I think they have the coach to do it, but I think it's also a different challenge for him. Like, I don't know, Sean McGray and Mike Shannon has done it for years. They bring someone else in.
00:51:11
Bhupen
This is good. Like, you know, the machine keeps churning, but it'll be a good test for him to see if, like, you know, kind of like, is he the system or, like, the people coming in? Like, was it Ben Johnson the mad genius or was it, like, the coach was the secret sauce? I think that that's a good take. But, again, opportunities are there, right? Like, in Detroit, like,
00:51:31
Bhupen
Like, they will try to be deficient. Will they? will that One day is decided, but I think they will try to be aggressive.
00:51:35
Mike
I don't know.
00:51:37
Bhupen
I think the opportunity is there for him to be.
00:51:37
Mike
one
00:51:39
Bhupen
That's why I didn't put him in one.
00:51:39
Mike
the The one thing that but one that concerns me is just like, I mean, Amon Ra, you know he's going to have the solid floor because he's the go-to Jared Goff. But with all the hype around Jamison Williams, it's just like, there's a lot of fucking miles to feed, dude.
00:51:53
Mike
You can't just keep saying that that all these players are going to continue to outperform their ADP.
00:51:53
Bhupen
It's like a different player, right? It's like a...
00:51:59
Mike
And it's just like, there's only so many touches in a game.
00:52:03
Bhupen
Yeah, that's true.
00:52:03
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but I feel like the Bengals also showed that that's possible. I mean...
00:52:08
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:52:08
Mike
Is Jared Goff, Joe Burrow?
00:52:11
Trio of Positivity
i mean, have you been to Detroit? They chant his name like he is.
00:52:14
Bhupen
Yeah. MVP, baby. If you watch another series, Quarterbacks on Netflix. like Yeah. Yeah, like, i'm I'm pumped about Drake London, like, sneaky player.
00:52:26
Bhupen
I know, like, Penix, Penix, Michael Penix.
00:52:29
Mike
Yeah.
00:52:30
Bhupen
Jesus Christ, it will get me in trouble. um Like, you know, like, going to second year, but, man, like, the contested balls, like, go balls, like, he he did a lot with, like, really shitty quarterback play last year. I feel like that that's going to be someone to look up to maybe, like, elevate himself in the next tier.
00:52:47
Bhupen
um You know, that'll be interesting, someone I'm looking out for. Yeah.
00:52:51
Mike
He's not going to the next tier.
00:52:53
Bhupen
know yeah i If anyone I see making the leap on that list, I feel like it's probably him. um Tier 3, right below them, Vlad McConkie from the Chargers, Tee Higgins from the Bengals, Tidey Kill from Miami, um Mike Evans from the Bucs, Devontae now with the Rams, JSN from Steelers.
00:53:16
Bhupen
um some na Some people that have changed teams, it seems, here and there, j like Devontae, JSN has more ah opportunities now with DK leaving. So that's my Tier 3.
00:53:30
Bhupen
um Some not so like Tyreek Hill is making news in the baddest of ways this offseason. I'm slightly concerned about him, but the talent is there.
00:53:40
Bhupen
I feel like, you know, he could he could end up wide receiver one all over again.
00:53:42
Mike
I feel like this is pretty consensus, but I also feel like I'm not going to draft any of those fuckers.
00:53:52
Bhupen
I'm T Higgins, I think is for who I'm high on.
00:53:54
Mike
T. Higgins and Ladd, obviously, but like Tyreek Hill, there's talks about him getting traded, not worrying. There's talks about Waddle being the number one receiver there, not touching that.
00:54:05
Mike
Mike Evans, I mean, he's the definition of consistency, right? But he still has his injury concerns, and that offense is changing a little bit. Devontae Adams, am I really going to take him that high when you don't know how he's going to fit in the offense?
00:54:16
Mike
Let's not forget, they spent a lot of money on Allen Robinson a few years ago, and he did jack shit. And then JSN, I mean, JSN, had a hell of a year last year, but now he's the only guy there.
00:54:28
Bhupen
yeah and it's a bet on it's a bet on sam darnold right like being good again like he was amazing last year but that's that's the bet there but like you're probably getting these guys in like you know third maybe if we win fourth round so like yeah so like it's
00:54:28
Mike
So how is that going to translate?
00:54:42
Mike
Yeah, exactly. and would not touch any of them in the third. Thank you.
00:54:46
Bhupen
Yeah, um I don't know. JSN, probably. But um the last tier of quarterbacks, sorry, wide receivers, to wrap it up here, Garrett Wilson from the Jets, ah Marvin Harrison from the Arizona Cardinals there, Terry McLaurin with his holdout right now ah with the Commanders, D.K. Metcalf with Ayahuasca Rogers there, Jameson Williams.
00:55:11
Bhupen
We talked about him already, wide receiver too from the Lions. D.J. Moore, out of Homegrown. you know not homegrown, home talent, DJ Moore, Cortland Sun, newly played Cortland Sun up in the Broncos, and Jay Flowers with the Ravens.
00:55:26
Bhupen
But again, definitely some concerns. That's why that they are not higher up. But again, solid names for wide receiver 2 and 3 on your teams if you can get them.
00:55:35
Trio of Positivity
I feel like DK is still tier three. I don't care what anyone says. Like the fact that we would have them that low, like DK could have an explosive year.
00:55:46
Bhupen
I...
00:55:46
Mike
Okay, so first of all, DK has been very inconsistent.
00:55:50
Mike
Second of all, there are there are a few players on this this list right here that are the only wide receiver on their team, and DK is one of them.
00:55:51
Bhupen
Like who you think you're drafting...
00:56:00
Mike
So he could get a shit ton of balls, and Aaron Rodgers is not a shitty quarterback yet. So sorry, Ben, he's, he's not so like he could have a good year. I will agree with you there. And it's just like, if I'm looking at this list right here, like Terry McLaurin had a fabulous year last year. we don't know what he's currently with the contract situation.
00:56:26
Mike
DJ more dude. Can we just make the announcement to not draft DJ more? Like,
00:56:32
Trio of Positivity
Oh...
00:56:33
Mike
I haven't heard his fucking name once as far as catching balls in practice. I will say they're using him in as a runner, but I don't know how much fucking action this motherfucker's going to get this year.
00:56:45
Mike
All I hear is Luther, Burden, and Rome. That's all I hear in the passing game. And we all know last year, we know last year he, DJ and Caleb were not on the same page for most of the year.
00:56:50
Bhupen
thats That's what they want you to hear.
00:56:57
Mike
Well, who's ever fault it was. don't, I wouldn't touch him at that place. I do not think DJ more is a tier four.
00:57:04
Trio of Positivity
I could see Dea more being tier four, but then at the same time, kind of going back to what we were discussing with the with week one, we have to see the offense with Caleb and kind of get a better understanding.
00:57:18
Trio of Positivity
So that's like a completely different thing. um But like seeing those two names, i And you guys know I don't really look at stats when it comes to fantasy, but like, I still feel like DK is above DJ, like even with the trade and everything, even with the inconsistency, but I,
00:57:37
Bhupen
i think I think the the conversation about DK Metcalf is like new system, new quarterback. It'll be like, you know, and i don't know if you've had him in fantasy, Chris. Like having him in fantasy is like a very different conversation.
00:57:52
Bhupen
I would love for him to be like consistent. He's never that consistent anyway.
00:57:55
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but like the last two seasons was ah shit show for the Hawks.
00:58:01
Mike
Not necessarily a shit show, but you're feeding a lot of mouths.
00:58:01
Bhupen
What you mean?
00:58:04
Mike
You're talking about JSN having a breakout season towards the end of last year. You're talking about Metcalf you're talking about Tyler Lockett. He's always competed for touches and now he's literally the only wide receiver on that offense.
00:58:10
Bhupen
I but you
00:58:17
Mike
Chris has a point here. don't say that very often.
00:58:20
Bhupen
i don't know. like I don't want to call it run first ah offense. I don't know how big an influence Rodgers will have on the play calling, but that offensive Arthur Smith.
00:58:29
Mike
Who's going to run the ball?
00:58:30
Trio of Positivity
Hey, who did we hire from the Seahawks to run our offense at one point?
00:58:35
Bhupen
Oh, geez. What's his name? I just heard his name today.
00:58:38
Mike
Who's going to run the ball? You're going to trust Jalen Warren to run the ball?
00:58:39
Trio of Positivity
That, but that's what i'm saying. Like,
00:58:41
Mike
Oh, wait. Caleb Johnson to run the ball? I know Ben's going to love him. He looks awful.
00:58:47
Bhupen
He does.
00:58:47
Mike
I just...
00:58:48
Bhupen
Hey.
00:58:49
Mike
It can't be a run first ah offense. I just think Aaron Rodgers, yes, Arthur Smith is running that offense, but it's Aaron Rodgers. You know he's running that offense. And what is he going to do?
00:58:57
Bhupen
No.
00:58:58
Mike
He's going to feed the shit out of And as much as I don't like Justin Field as a passer, I think Garrett Wilson's in the same boat.
00:59:00
Bhupen
No.
00:59:04
Mike
No one else is on that team. So whose field's he throw it to? He's throw it to Garrett Wilson.
00:59:04
Trio of Positivity
Yep.
00:59:11
Bhupen
So, those are my tears, boys. Again, do some mock drafts. like Looks like you guys haven't done any. These fuckers go off the board. Top 50. Majority.
00:59:20
Trio of Positivity
I've seen mock drafts where people just do dumb shit.
00:59:22
Mike
I'm not saying you're wrong.
00:59:24
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. I mean, like, I think again, opinions, opinion, but like, I think I will tell you this, give me two more games. when I can see more of this offense and I can see Caleb in a game setting.
00:59:35
Trio of Positivity
And I'll tell you if DJ more stays a four, how about that?
00:59:37
Mike
like That's how you shit.
00:59:38
Bhupen
Bro, but bro, bro, in two games, the season will start.
00:59:43
Trio of Positivity
No, we still have two more presidency preseason games.
00:59:45
Bhupen
But he's probably not playing the last one. Probably.
00:59:45
Mike
You don't even know if DJ's going to be out there for season for game three.
00:59:49
Mike
ah But yeah, we'll see. if you Appreciate your lists. We'll see. I'm learning that I don't trust any of those fuckers. So it might be wide receiver heavy early and and running back might be it running back might be in three and four.
00:59:56
Bhupen
So you so you better take a wide receiver. You better go early.
00:59:59
Trio of Positivity
I think that's what I'm leaning towards. And those doing keepers, I think those doing keepers, if you have any wide receiver tier one keepers, ah keep that's your keeper.
01:00:09
Trio of Positivity
like that That's the easiest decision that you'll ever make.
01:00:10
Bhupen
Yeah,
01:00:13
Bhupen
keep T-higging, is what I heard. But, um, alright, uh-huh. All right. So that was a fancy segment. it was It was a lot of names. Hopefully that was some value to you guys.
01:00:24
Bhupen
um You know, we may throw some of these over on our website too, if we have it, just so you can watch it. I don't know. It's hard to rattle off names and remember them. So maybe having it in front of you would be helpful. But these are the consensus tiers. You can get it anywhere too.
01:00:39
Bhupen
It's like not that hard to find.
01:00:41
Mike
You can't get Boopin's tears anywhere, guys.
01:00:41
Bhupen
But
01:00:44
Mike
Only here. So...
01:00:45
Bhupen
um that's true. Exclusive.
01:00:47
Mike
Yeah.
01:00:47
Bhupen
ah
01:00:48
Mike
It's exclusive.
01:00:49
Bhupen
Okay, ah Miller, you want talk about our upcoming game?
Training Camp Speculations and Media Coverage
01:00:54
Mike
Well, a few things just to mention today. As far as practice is concerned before we sign off and get in the game, too. Don't know how much you've heard about practice today.
01:01:04
Mike
um But Caleb did have a...
01:01:06
Bhupen
you You could not wait to bring this up, right?
01:01:10
Mike
Caleb did have a better... day to day compared to earlier this week. But that is not the story. The story. I'm going to fuck this up because don't remember The story is the Canadian Eagle.
01:01:24
Mike
If those remember it, the Canadian Eagle from Hard Knocks, Mr.
01:01:24
Bhupen
shit.
01:01:30
Mike
Theo Benedict, the offensive lineman, he made an appearance
01:01:33
Bhupen
youth
01:01:38
Mike
as left tackle with the first team today.
01:01:40
Bhupen
oh shit
01:01:41
Mike
So it kind of threw everything into chaos mode. Theo Benedict had some time at left tackle. Braxton Jones had time at left tackle.
01:01:52
Mike
um What's his name? Our draft pick. What's his fucking name? God damn it.
01:01:58
Bhupen
Trapilo? But...
01:01:58
Mike
The, Trapilo had some time in right tackle today. um So it really caused some confusion with a lot of the Bears reporters. No one knows what's going on as far as who's going to be in or what.
01:02:09
Bhupen
but
01:02:11
Mike
I think they're just the staff is trying to just rotate, see how everybody's doing and who's the best at that position. So. It'll be interesting to see what happens if the offensive line comes Sunday because I think the expectation is with the starters playing, it has been confirmed. Caleb will be out there.
01:02:30
Mike
I think the expectation is whoever steps foot on that line on Sunday is is going to be the starter start the regular season.
01:02:40
Bhupen
Yeah,
01:02:40
Mike
So, things to consider there but
01:02:43
Bhupen
Yeah, um I'm excited too. um Even on the build side, week one, they didn't play Josh Allen. um So Trubisky, you know, our favorite player. Another ex-quarterback that we keep talking about.
01:02:55
Bhupen
he He saw a lot of action. So if anything, if, if um you know, at least Mitch will see some bears, maybe not, ah you know, our starters, but definitely see the backups.
01:03:07
Bhupen
um That's something I was looking forward to. But jokes aside, Josh Allen...
01:03:10
Mike
We've already seen him like four times, haven't we?
01:03:12
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, he already had his revenge game too, laughed.
01:03:12
Bhupen
and
01:03:14
Mike
Yeah, I saw that. I laughed.
01:03:17
Bhupen
Um, but, but, um, like, no, Josh said Josh didn't play week one.
01:03:17
Trio of Positivity
ah laughed
01:03:22
Bhupen
He'll likely play week two. Uh, the newly paid, um, running back, um, what's his, James Cook?
01:03:27
Mike
James Cook.
01:03:29
Bhupen
He'll, he's like probably practicing this week because he just got paid and he'll likely see some snaps too. So I think a lot more starters. I'm looking forward to that. Um, Yeah, there'll be lot more to talk about.
01:03:42
Bhupen
I'm just looking at an SI article, Sports Illustrated, where supposedly Caleb not starting was a national topic in week one when Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow played.
01:03:51
Trio of Positivity
It was.
01:03:53
Bhupen
Why didn't Caleb play? was a big storyline, so.
01:03:56
Trio of Positivity
i will so I will give a shout out to Dan Orlovsky, who ah did mention that it's smart not to play Caleb if you weren't planning on sending your first O-line out there. So if you're going to send your first starter quarterback, but you were going to have him with the backup line, like that was useless.
01:04:13
Mike
God damn it.
01:04:13
Trio of Positivity
So...
01:04:14
Mike
That's like one of those stupid 670 to score ESPN 1000 points.
01:04:17
Trio of Positivity
Hey. Listen.
01:04:19
Trio of Positivity
Listen.
01:04:19
Mike
It's a stupid ass.
01:04:20
Bhupen
Hey, hey, hey, hey, don't call, don't call 670 stupid.
01:04:21
Mike
If you're going to put, if you're going put,
01:04:22
Trio of Positivity
it's
01:04:24
Bhupen
That's your, that's all you listen to.
01:04:26
Mike
I know it is, but if you put your fucking starting quarterback out there, you're going to put your starting offensive line out there.
01:04:26
Trio of Positivity
That's all you listen to.
01:04:33
Mike
It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
01:04:33
Trio of Positivity
not ah not Not all the time if they're having competitions for certain positions. So that's not entirely true.
01:04:40
Bhupen
But like, okay.
01:04:40
Mike
They're not.
01:04:41
Mike
Four of the positions are solidified. Only left tackle is not. That's just such a stupid argument.
01:04:46
Bhupen
Okay, can I say something about these practice reports? Guys, this is training camp. This is when they try and experiment and they'll throw some pics and they'll do weird combinations. Like, stop holding breath and, like, doing it.
01:04:58
Mike
Boop in. Boop in. Stop talking. It's the NFL. We have nothing else to talk about in this town.
01:05:03
Bhupen
I know, but, like, Jesus Christ. Like, Caleb puts out his shoe backwards and, like, has untied shoes. These motherfuckers lose their fucking minds.
01:05:12
Bhupen
Like, give this...
01:05:12
Trio of Positivity
Brother, there's only so many scandals the Pope can do at this time.
01:05:15
Trio of Positivity
Like, I don't know what more we can talk about. I will say, though, Twitter journalists, it's getting too far. Like... There's always some kind of update that like throws people at arms. Like if someone's not holding their helmet right or if someone I don't know, I'm not a fan of this particular time frame.
01:05:38
Trio of Positivity
I hate it because there's just like so many different narratives that a journalist will want to push. And as someone who's trying to study journalism, I feel like a lot is opinion based instead of like what you're seeing.
01:05:50
Trio of Positivity
So like. I don't know.
01:05:53
Mike
Well, I just I just, well, I don't necessarily totally agree with that.
01:05:53
Trio of Positivity
I.
01:05:58
Mike
Everything's opinion based on Twitter. But I see your point. And I think a lot of it's just turned into more clickbait.
01:06:03
Trio of Positivity
Yep.
01:06:03
Mike
And trying to get comments and actually relevant information like the one thing go
01:06:08
Trio of Positivity
I think Caleb not playing was accidental clickbait.
01:06:12
Mike
Yeah, the one thing that I'm getting really annoyed about is the coverage of the Sanders kids. And I figured Chris would have been the one to either cover the Sanders, Chidour's first game, or the 70-yard field goal.
01:06:22
Bhupen
and
01:06:25
Mike
Instead, he was fucking talking about the end of summer for some reason. But hey, I like this is a sports podcast.
01:06:28
Trio of Positivity
i and nfl preseason NFL preseason for me is when you know summer's almost over. So i
01:06:34
Mike
But, like, the amount of Shadour coverage, yeah, you can argue that it was warranted. It was a good game, whatever. was just off the charts, calling for him to be the starter right off the bat, whatever, dude.
01:06:45
Mike
But the thing that annoyed me was the coverage –
01:06:46
Bhupen
I mean, who else are you going to start? Like fucking Joe Flacco's fucking ghost.
01:06:49
Mike
but the The thing that annoyed me was the coverage of his brother, Shiloh Sanders, and the amount of coverage he got just because he had a pressure on a quarterback. It's just like, geez, come on, people.
01:07:06
Trio of Positivity
Wait a minute.
01:07:06
Mike
Get off of it.
01:07:07
Trio of Positivity
So wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Let me just get this. Let me just get this. If Caleb Williams throws an amazing dot and that's all he did, you're just going to be like, eh, it's all right.
01:07:22
Mike
What you talking about?
01:07:23
Trio of Positivity
I'm i'm saying, like, you you can let people be excited. If you're going to be excited...
01:07:27
Mike
I just said, I just said he had a good game.
01:07:31
Bhupen
But.
01:07:31
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but, like, you're criticizing the fact that...
01:07:34
Trio of Positivity
I mean...
01:07:35
Mike
My main point was against his brother, bro.
01:07:37
Mike
Calm down. He had one pressure against third string people. He's not even going to make a team.
01:07:37
Trio of Positivity
He still had a good game.
01:07:44
Bhupen
i was going to say, is he going to make the team?
01:07:44
Mike
What are you talking about?
01:07:44
Trio of Positivity
and Listen.
01:07:46
Bhupen
he
01:07:47
Mike
Do you even know what team he plays for?
01:07:49
Trio of Positivity
Nope, and I don't care. But see, someone like you would bring shit like that up.
01:07:52
Bhupen
Buccaneers.
01:07:53
Mike
But that's why I'm just annoyed because it was getting national public publicized.
01:07:56
Bhupen
But. But. Miller, if you're annoyed about it, don't bring it up on your podcast.
01:08:00
Trio of Positivity
Don't bring it up. that like Oh my god, Boopin and I are like this today.
01:08:03
Mike
I was,
01:08:04
Trio of Positivity
Thank you. That's exactly what I was trying to say.
01:08:06
Bhupen
You're giving this guy a...
01:08:07
Mike
we were literally, we were literally talking about how we hate clickbait on Twitter and this, and I was making a point to support that agenda.
01:08:18
Mike
And now you're telling me to not bring it up.
01:08:20
Bhupen
Okay.
01:08:20
Mike
I hate you guys at the fucking podcast.
01:08:20
Trio of Positivity
No, listen, when you're bringing up his brother, you weren't like, come on.
01:08:24
Trio of Positivity
We're not talking about that aspect. Now, the sit the should.
01:08:28
Mike
That was the national stories that I saw. People were talking about him.
01:08:31
Trio of Positivity
I did not boop in the juicy. I did not see anything.
01:08:33
Bhupen
I did not see it. They didn't even cover it in the podcast I listened to. So, like, I don't know and know where your national coverage came from.
01:08:37
Trio of Positivity
There you go. I will say Sanders, even though I think he got carded off, I don't know what his.
01:08:43
Mike
I believe it was Bleacher Report, fuckers.
01:08:46
Trio of Positivity
Well, Bleacher Report is that's a different ah ah subject. um
01:08:50
Bhupen
What are you got against them?
01:08:52
Trio of Positivity
They're mostly just blogs and it's it's it's what like it's not a journalistic kind of thing.
01:08:57
Bhupen
Got it. Yeah, and and and Chris would know, Miller.
01:08:59
Trio of Positivity
Like.
01:09:01
Trio of Positivity
I'm studying this.
01:09:02
Bhupen
Yeah, reputed journalist.
01:09:03
Trio of Positivity
No, but in in all.
01:09:03
Mike
um I'm just saying.
01:09:05
Trio of Positivity
No, but in all seriousness, um Sanders look good. Like he looked good.
01:09:10
Bhupen
No, like, i I don't know if he's a long-term answer, but, like, why would you, like, your third round doesn't look any better. Why would you give it to Kenny Pickett? Like, what the ghost of Joe Flacco is not going to give you anything significant.
01:09:23
Bhupen
Like, why not give this kid a shot?
01:09:24
Mike
But Boopin, can you really sit here and pay Miles Garrett? What did they pay him a fucking shit ton of money to put out a rookie anymore?
01:09:30
Trio of Positivity
Oh, he doesn't care anymore.
01:09:30
Bhupen
yeah hey Hey, Miller, once you pay...
01:09:34
Trio of Positivity
doesn't care.
01:09:34
Mike
Oh, fuck you. Yes, he does. He probably cares more than most of those
Fantasy Football Dual Roles and Scoring
01:09:38
Mike
people. He is probably going to go down as one of the best defensive linemen in football. And you don't think he wants to play in the playoffs or have a chance at the Super Bowl?
01:09:42
Bhupen
He... He does, but do you think playing Joe Flacco, like, gives having one playoff game, like or like had playing for the wild card, maybe it's any different?
01:09:55
Bhupen
Or like maybe building something...
01:09:55
Mike
I mean, it's still playing. We've seen Von Miller take over game. Why couldn't Miles Garrett take over a game?
01:10:01
Bhupen
Yeah.
01:10:01
Mike
and You just have to get there. I don't know.
01:10:03
Bhupen
No.
01:10:04
Mike
i don't know. Everything I hear is – that's just a fucking –
01:10:06
Bhupen
there's There's a lot of issues with that team, and I, yeah like, quarterback, yes, gets a lot of attention. There's other things going on with that team, too.
01:10:13
Trio of Positivity
I think the quarterback is, yeah, getting the most attention, but because of how much of a drop we saw with him, i think Hunter is also another interesting player.
01:10:19
Bhupen
Yeah.
01:10:22
Trio of Positivity
I was going to ask about tra Travis Hunter's um fantasy stock, um but we could, because,
01:10:28
Mike
It's low. It's really low. It's like, he's like going as like wide receiver 30.
01:10:31
Bhupen
Well, you.
01:10:34
Bhupen
Well, wait, you said low as in high, like it's going to high or low as in like he should go higher.
01:10:39
Mike
Yeah. Saying it's low as in low. It's like wide receiver 30. It's low. That's the stock.
01:10:46
Bhupen
But do you you think he should go higher?
01:10:47
Trio of Positivity
do you think he should be higher?
01:10:49
Mike
I would think so, but I just covered this when we talked about Brian Thomas.
01:10:54
Bhupen
like. So that's what I was going to say. Like, no one really knows how much he will play. Like, of the the podcast I listened to, they were, like, talking about will he finish, like, top 24 wide receiver.
01:11:01
Mike
I have,
01:11:06
Bhupen
And they were like, yeah, we'll see. Like, because, like, even though he'll play both, I feel like there'll be one that he, like, really, like, Deion, like, he's probably do something, like,
01:11:17
Bhupen
primarily and there'll be other things he does i feel like is what they are because no one's had a player like this before right it's shohei itani right like no one's like had this so everyone's says just guessing at this point like dude dion dion
01:11:27
Trio of Positivity
Well, no, it's it's been done but Dion.
01:11:30
Mike
Not to this extent, but I think the consensus is he's going to play more wide receiver than he is cornerback.
01:11:36
Bhupen
supposedly why did he was easier to play than cornerback so like they say he may do that more um i I'm pretty high on the Jacksonville offense. I feel like they'll they'll be better than they have been last couple of years with that new defensive coordinator. But I don't know. i say I think they have a legit one.
01:11:55
Mike
Duvall.
01:11:56
Bhupen
I think Brian Thomas is that dog.
01:11:57
Trio of Positivity
Duval.
01:12:00
Bhupen
He is the number one. So like he doesn't need to do that much to like be relevant, be be someone. But like I think 30 is probably...
01:12:07
Mike
I don't think you can. i
01:12:09
Bhupen
I'm not drafting him.
01:12:10
Mike
I like Brian Thomas a lot. I do.
01:12:11
Bhupen
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
01:12:12
Mike
I don't think you can sit here and say he's the dog.
01:12:15
Bhupen
I think he is.
01:12:15
Mike
First of all, he didn't do a lot with Travis. You realize that, right?
01:12:20
Bhupen
Yeah, it was Matt Jones.
01:12:20
Trio of Positivity
How did...
01:12:21
Bhupen
i've I've heard of him.
01:12:21
Mike
It was Mac Jones that put him on the map.
01:12:22
Bhupen
um
01:12:23
Bhupen
I've heard that.
01:12:23
Trio of Positivity
I have a question.
01:12:24
Mike
So now that you have Travis Hunter in the equation, i think it could complicate that stock a little bit.
01:12:30
Trio of Positivity
I have a question, and I don't want to go too long because we're already at over an hour.
01:12:33
Mike
Yeah, we're very long.
01:12:34
Trio of Positivity
um
01:12:35
Bhupen
You're two log.
01:12:36
Trio of Positivity
If Hunter was to get a tackle for loss, how would his points stack up in fantasy? That just doesn't count, right?
01:12:44
Bhupen
It If you pay IDP League, I think you would get both.
01:12:50
Bhupen
You would get both.
01:12:50
Trio of Positivity
But if he gets an interception for a touchdown,
01:12:52
Mike
Yeah, because yeah he's right. He's right. Because, i mean, the defense isn't player-related, typically. So it doesn't matter who gets the tackle for loss.
01:12:58
Bhupen
But... Yeah.
01:13:01
Mike
The defense does. So he wouldn't get points for that.
01:13:02
Bhupen
But you...
01:13:04
Mike
But if you played like an IDP with the defensive player, then he would get points for both, I would assume.
01:13:04
Bhupen
Yeah.
01:13:07
Bhupen
Yeah.
01:13:09
Trio of Positivity
You can get points. Okay. But if like, he so if he gets in an interception and it just accounts as a defensive thing, not, and if he gets a touchdown, then that's yeah.
01:13:14
Bhupen
Yeah. Um... Like, it counts.
01:13:14
Mike
It's just a defensive thing, not a player.
01:13:18
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
01:13:19
Bhupen
Like, that's like a returner getting a touchdown.
01:13:21
Mike
I would imagine the defensive touchdown would count.
01:13:24
Bhupen
Yeah, like, it's a returner getting a touchdown, basically. I feel like that would count. But you know what fantasy baseball does did this season? You can draft in some leagues. You can draft Shohei Itani, the pitcher, and Shohei Itani, the batter, and they're two different players.
01:13:39
Bhupen
I think on Yahoo, yahoo yeah ESPN, one of the two, it's one player and you can like put him on both positions. So you'll get credit for either or. But I think on Yahoo, he's two different players. He's a batter and a pitcher.
01:13:39
Trio of Positivity
but Well, that makes sense.
01:13:53
Bhupen
i don't know. That was like interesting because he was going number one overall otherwise, like easily, right?
01:13:53
Trio of Positivity
think that makes sense.
01:13:59
Trio of Positivity
ah
01:13:59
Bhupen
have You have one of the best batter and one of the best pitchers out there. Like, yeah, he's going number one overall. But because of that, he was going like top three.
01:14:07
Trio of Positivity
I love that that was just a natural
Conclusion and Audience Engagement
01:14:09
Trio of Positivity
tangent. But Boobin, take us home because Miller is going to miss his nap.
01:14:12
Bhupen
And we we end on a positive note, right? Miller, I'm going to butcher this name, but another positive for today was Dale Odebingo, who we had so many questions from. looked good this today in practice against our very own left tackle, Braxton Jones.
01:14:29
Bhupen
So on that positive, positive note, people, thank you for joining us. um Hope you have a wonderful week. Hope you brought some joy into your life today. Keep the feedback coming.
01:14:39
Bhupen
Give us the love. We need it. This was fun. You know, hope we are getting into our season form. We are working through it. We'll see you next week. Good night.
01:14:50
Mike
Bye-bye.
01:14:51
Trio of Positivity
Bye-bye.