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Streak Snapped: Can the Bears pick themselves up? | Season 3 - Episode 13 |
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The boys talk about the bears breaking their winning streak against the Lamarless ravens. Can we bouce back and who was at blame? We also preview the cinci game. Bouceback?
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00:00:14
Trio of Positivity
Oh, it's me. i'm so I am so used to Boopin doing it. Yeah. Hey, what's up?
Introduction to the Trio Positivity Podcast
00:00:23
Bhupen
this
00:00:25
Trio of Positivity
Welcome to the Trio Positivity Podcast.
00:00:25
Bhupen
Great. Great. Great.
00:00:28
Trio of Positivity
I'm over here thinking, why is Boopin not saying anything? My name is Christian, and I'm joined by my co-host, Boopin and Miller. Hi, boys.
00:00:35
Bhupen
YELLOW!
00:00:36
Trio of Positivity
Oh, wow.
00:00:37
Mike
Howdy.
00:00:37
Trio of Positivity
We're already starting off great.
00:00:41
Bhupen
Hey, no, no.
00:00:41
Mike
Starting off Grace with a big glass of whiskey to deal with your bullshit today.
00:00:46
Bhupen
it
00:00:46
Trio of Positivity
Oh, it's not just minus half of America, but ah in case you don't know, we are a Chicago Bears podcast.
00:00:52
Trio of Positivity
We hope to try to bring you some positivity into your life. a Typical Chicago fashion, although. There's other teams in Chicago that are doing pretty good.
00:01:03
Trio of Positivity
ah I believe with the Chicago Bulls are still number one in the East three, you know. Yeah,
00:01:08
Mike
you don't talk about other sports other than the NFL.
00:01:11
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:01:11
Trio of Positivity
yeah I know. We'll wait for the following part in the agenda.
00:01:13
Bhupen
Yeah. Yeah. yeah Have you seen the agenda?
00:01:17
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. ah Boys, how are your how was your weekend?
00:01:20
Mike
Good.
00:01:21
Bhupen
How was the weekend? It was good, man.
00:01:23
Bhupen
It was short.
00:01:23
Mike
Eventful.
00:01:24
Mike
ah was busy. Good times.
00:01:25
Trio of Positivity
Nice.
Weekly NFL Review and Bears Predictions
00:01:27
Trio of Positivity
Very nice. Well, ah in today's episode, we're going to always talk about what happened this week in the NFL. We're then going to talk about this Bears loser Tuesday since they dropped the game against the Ravens.
00:01:39
Trio of Positivity
After that, we are going to go ahead and look into the following game against the Cincinnati Bengals. We'll give our predictions. And right before our predictions, we also give our positivity score, which is always fun to talk about.
00:01:52
Trio of Positivity
And after that, we end the night with a fantasy recap. Boys, let's get started, shall we? Let's get this bullshit out of the way. Miller, what did you find interesting in the in this week's NFL slate?
Spotlight on Shohei Otani's Baseball Performance
00:02:07
Mike
Well, obviously it's week eight.
00:02:11
Trio of Positivity
Hmm.
00:02:12
Bhupen
Obviously.
00:02:12
Mike
Obviously it's not as important as other things happening in this world, mainly the World Series in baseball.
00:02:16
Trio of Positivity
Hmm?
00:02:18
Bhupen
Hey, transition!
00:02:19
Mike
And I don't know if you guys have been paying attention at all, but Shohei Otani is putting on a fucking show. And I wouldn't normally bring this up, but these the things that this guy is doing is insane.
00:02:35
Mike
Now, this is there's a little caveat to this because it's the last two home games. So the last two home games that Shohei has played, he is seven for eight with five home runs, seven RBIs, and five walks.
00:02:53
Bhupen
Jesus.
00:02:54
Mike
Yes, you heard that correctly. Seven for eight or five home runs. insane three for four the game before. And then yesterday in an 18 inning battle, he was four for four.
00:03:07
Mike
with two home runs and five walks. And apparently he's going to see a lot more of first base coming at him because I think the the the Toronto Blue Jays already said that they're going to give him the Barry Bonds treatment and basically just put him on base all the time, which they need to.
00:03:22
Mike
It's just historic what this guy's doing. i don't want i don't like the Dodgers. I don't want them to win. But seeing something like that is just mind-boggling.
00:03:35
Bhupen
yeah
00:03:35
Trio of Positivity
Didn't realize he played football, but all right. Boopin, what'd you got for this ah week eight
NFL Week 8 Blowouts and Betting Insights
00:03:40
Trio of Positivity
in the NFL?
00:03:40
Bhupen
Hey, it's showtime in every sports, you know? I got you, Miller. I got you. ah Football. Bring it back home. i Week 8. Blowouts.
00:03:52
Bhupen
Blowouts everywhere. 11 out of the 12 games were decided by double-chitted margins. Average winning margin for the week was 18 points.
00:04:03
Bhupen
It was also the first time. Only one game was decided by less than a score since 1970. So crazy week of football. of Fairly favorites won for the most part.
00:04:16
Bhupen
I think there was probably like Miller would disagree, but there's only a couple people that were supposed to win.
00:04:21
Mike
not going to disagree, but it wasn't for the most part.
00:04:24
Bhupen
Yeah, only a couple. but Like, you know, Survivor Pool decimated by another 33%. So, I just want people still surviving. But, no, it was like a fun, you know, won my bet.
00:04:37
Bhupen
ah Not the big one, but like the side bets, I won couple of them. So, yay to me.
00:04:42
Trio of Positivity
And of course, we always say gamble responsibly.
00:04:43
Mike
ADU.
00:04:46
Mike
No, we don't.
00:04:46
Bhupen
We never say that.
00:04:47
Trio of Positivity
We have to if we're going to start saying stuff like that. Trust me, I learned that the other day.
00:04:52
Bhupen
ah Anyone who's seen the parlay?
00:04:55
Mike
We haven't given any gambling tips, so we don't need to say that.
00:04:57
Bhupen
and
00:05:01
Trio of Positivity
Well, to each his own, I guess.
00:05:03
Bhupen
ah what what What stood out to you, Chris? Week 8 in the NFL.
00:05:06
Trio of Positivity
um Two things stood out for me. um I think the Colts might be a Super Bowl team.
00:05:14
Trio of Positivity
ah Jonathan Taylor, who is ah Miller's favorite running back, which we've brought up multiple times, ah first running back first running back to score three touchdowns in, what is it, four consecut three or four consecutive games, something like that?
00:05:21
Bhupen
MVP. MVP.
00:05:30
Trio of Positivity
28,
00:05:31
Bhupen
Three games, I think. He's on pace to break.
00:05:34
Trio of Positivity
twenty eight i think i saw
00:05:34
Mike
He's on pace for 40.
00:05:36
Bhupen
Yeah, break Tom Wilson's.
00:05:37
Trio of Positivity
I thought I saw 28.
00:05:38
Mike
No, he's at like 15. He's on pace for 40 touchdowns.
00:05:42
Trio of Positivity
Interesting.
00:05:42
Bhupen
um He may break Tom Wilson. Tom Wilson, LaDainio's record when he won the MVP.
00:05:48
Trio of Positivity
I think someone did say, though, that for them to do that, for the Colts to actually do that, they would have to abuse his abilities, basically, and just give him the ball and see what he does, which is in typical Miller format.
00:06:00
Mike
But they're not... ah
00:06:02
Bhupen
No, he has not.
00:06:02
Mike
They're not abusing him.
00:06:03
Bhupen
Yeah, he's that he's he doesn't do a lot.
00:06:04
Mike
That's the thing. He had 12 carries for like 150 yards and two touchdowns.
00:06:06
Bhupen
Yeah, he doesn't do a lot.
00:06:10
Mike
I mean, the offensive line that they have over there is just insane.
00:06:10
Trio of Positivity
The East.
00:06:13
Mike
Like if you watch some of the game and the holes that they're creating, I mean, it's like five yards of space just off the charts.
00:06:21
Bhupen
Yeah, the funniest thing is it's rebuilt, right? Because they signed, I think two of their players went to Minnesota. They got rid of a bunch of people, rebuilt this O-line, and still freaking killing everybody.
00:06:35
Trio of Positivity
Yep. So shout out to John, who is an avid Colts fan season ticket holder. He got to see history. The second thing is shout out to Justin Fields, who said fuck you to his owner, even though he said the right things when he said that he wasn't sure what he said, but whatever.
00:06:52
Trio of Positivity
Led the Jets to a giant comeback win.
00:06:56
Bhupen
Wow.
00:06:56
Trio of Positivity
You could even say outperformed the current quarterback that we have in the Bears.
00:07:01
Bhupen
Okay, it's the Cincinnati Bengals.
00:07:01
Trio of Positivity
If we're going to get into that.
00:07:03
Bhupen
Take it easy. Take it easy.
00:07:04
Trio of Positivity
Very happy for him. Hopefully this leads to better things. But yeah, that that was basically it. i have to agree with...
00:07:12
Mike
Well, when you have a combined negative 20 yards in the previous two games, it's not really hard to do better.
00:07:19
Trio of Positivity
I mean, you could say that, but...
00:07:19
Bhupen
Yeah, um but I'm pretty sure Caleb has a better average than him.
Debate on Caleb Williams and Bears' Strategy
00:07:24
Trio of Positivity
I mean, still, Caleb did not look good, but we're going to talk about that a little bit later.
00:07:24
Bhupen
it
00:07:29
Trio of Positivity
We're going to go right into Bears versus Ravens. However, before we do that, we need to shout out the Stat Hole, who gave me some great entertainment over the weekend.
00:07:41
Trio of Positivity
ah He wrote an article about... Caleb Williams and how Ben Johnson apparently knows how awful he is. Of course, he is a comedic writer. People just read the headline and ran with it. And some people at Barstow retweeted that, which I think helped the article get more eyes on it.
00:07:59
Trio of Positivity
Moral of the story is there. And I think one of us is going to point it out and I don't want to take it away from that. um There was one outline in that article that I think we all have to agree with.
00:08:11
Trio of Positivity
I think, can I get some head shaking in in that there is at least one correct statement?
00:08:17
Mike
Just do something other than talk this bullshit, would you?
00:08:21
Trio of Positivity
All right. It was a great article. It talks about how Caleb is awful and that Ben Johnson knows it. I enjoyed it. But boys, what do you think? Because if you read in the comments section, it's very split 50-50 with people agreeing and disagreeing with what he wrote.
00:08:42
Bhupen
ah Can I go first, Miller?
00:08:44
Mike
You are going first, yes.
00:08:45
Bhupen
Alright, cool. ah For those who didn't watch the game or didn't follow it closely enough, Caleb threw for 25, he threw 38 times, 25 completions for 285 yards.
00:08:57
Bhupen
Just curious if you guys knew where that ranked in terms of past yards for quarterbacks this week.
00:09:05
Trio of Positivity
Lower than field.
00:09:08
Mike
above fields fields and that's for 280 yards it's probably
00:09:12
Trio of Positivity
I was going to see if he was going to tell me.
00:09:12
Bhupen
I mean, like, give me a number top one to thirty two. Right.
00:09:16
Mike
like ninth
00:09:18
Trio of Positivity
It's probably six or something.
00:09:20
Bhupen
It's four. He was above the MVP candidate, Drake May. So, while his game left a lot to be desired, right, there's places for blame to go a lot than just him.
00:09:33
Bhupen
And I just wanted to throw it out there. I know we're going to talk about him a lot and his stats a lot, but he, well, you know, we should finish drive, score some points, blah, blah, blah.
00:09:44
Bhupen
We'll talk about that more, but... Him alone is not to be blamed. Yes, that interception was horrible. But let's remember, when that interception happened, we were leading the game. We just had taken the lead.
00:09:56
Bhupen
We got the ball back. We were driving, right? Yeah, interception happened. They scored.
00:09:59
Trio of Positivity
We were not, brother.
00:09:59
Mike
We were not leading.
00:10:01
Bhupen
We were leading 16-13, no?
00:10:03
Trio of Positivity
We were losing 16 to 13. Here's thing with
00:10:05
Bhupen
with losing to them. But we had to score a touchdown. We got the ball back. We're driving. So that interception changed the game. They scored. Like, they went out of control after that. But um I just want to say, there's like, you know, it's not doom and gloom out there.
00:10:18
Bhupen
We'll talk more.
00:10:20
Mike
Yeah.
00:10:21
Trio of Positivity
this. here's here's my thing with this
00:10:25
Mike
We were talking about the fucking article, people.
00:10:27
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, that's kind of what I was trying to lead into.
00:10:27
Bhupen
I mean, you didn't you didn't leave with the question. I answered the question. You didn't leave with the question that you're supposed to ask.
00:10:36
Trio of Positivity
we i literally brought up the article.
00:10:37
Mike
He did. He said, what did what do you think about the article?
00:10:41
Trio of Positivity
What did you think about the article?
00:10:41
Bhupen
Oh, oh, shit.
00:10:44
Trio of Positivity
Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:10:44
Bhupen
That
00:10:45
Mike
And then he goes preaching about Caleb's stats. I'm not even halfway through this glass. Come
00:10:51
Bhupen
was BooPens' laser minute.
00:10:52
Trio of Positivity
I have this. Here's the thing that I just don't like, but I think I'm just going to have to save it because i feel like we're going to go all over the place. So Miller, I'll let you say your piece.
00:11:01
Mike
on, man. Yeah, just pass it to me, okay?
00:11:03
Trio of Positivity
Yep. Miller, go ahead and say your piece about the article and then we know what's coming next.
00:11:04
Mike
Just pass it to me.
00:11:07
Bhupen
I'm going read the article right now, just so everybody.
00:11:09
Mike
like Like Chris mentioned, the article from StatHole was fantastic. It was funny. It was everything he wanted to be about an article, except 95% it was wrong.
00:11:20
Mike
um it was I did reach out to the author of that article, and um he mentioned that it was probably one of the most popular articles that he's had.
00:11:32
Mike
I think I saw something along from Barstool. I think over 700,000, at least when I checked yesterday, have looked at it viewed it. So it definitely got some traction.
00:11:42
Mike
Like Chris mentioned, I think he had over 150 comments in it, a lot of back and forth, all that bullshit. But you get down to the points, the nitty gritty to it. It has nothing to do with the title.
00:11:56
Mike
And that's what the theme of this episode going to be about. It's going to be about clickbait because a lot of shit is fucking clickbait. But the article points to the one correct fact, which is Caleb isn't improving his accuracy. And that's the gist of the article when you when you get it down to the nuts and bolts.
00:12:14
Mike
But clickbait is the theme and it's time for me to glaze.
00:12:20
Bhupen
Good. three
00:12:33
Mike
Clickbait is everywhere, guys. It's here. It's there. It's on Caleb. We have to slow our roll on the screenshots. The first text that we got after the game was DJ was open by 10 yards.
00:12:46
Mike
Put that into context. Everybody's seen the all 22. And now everybody's saying, oh, that wasn't on Caleb. That was on DJ. He stopped in the wrong place right behind Roquan.
00:12:57
Mike
Screenshots are hurting everything that we deal with because there's there's times when a quarterback isn't looking on the other side of the field where the guy's wide open. Because he's focused here, he's rolling right, and the guy's on the left side of the field. It doesn't work.
00:13:12
Mike
Watch the game, see the entire field, and understand that he's trying to learn the progressions of the offense, not trying to hit the wide-open receiver that may not even be open at when he is throwing the ball.
00:13:25
Mike
It's all fucking bullshit, these pictures. Fuck it. So bad. Thank you.
00:13:34
Bhupen
That was 20 seconds.
00:13:36
Trio of Positivity
No, he he was right under a minute. He's getting better. Of course, he probably has experience of only lasting less than that. Anywho, let's get into the actual game, shall we, boys?
00:13:49
Bhupen
That was not that scary.
00:13:49
Trio of Positivity
The Bears threw up a clunker, losing 16-30 with a Lamar Jackson-less team.
00:13:57
Trio of Positivity
ah Huntley threw his first touchdown against the Bears and ended up with two for the day. ah Rushing for both teams did not look all that great either, but it looks like ah Baltimore did have most of the yardage with...
00:14:12
Mike
He's thrown many touchdowns for the record. he didn't throw his first touchdown.
00:14:17
Trio of Positivity
He threw his first touchdown of the season.
00:14:19
Mike
The season. Okay.
00:14:20
Bhupen
When it was his first start.
00:14:20
Mike
Context is key.
00:14:21
Trio of Positivity
Yes. Did I not say season?
00:14:22
Bhupen
It was his first.
00:14:23
Trio of Positivity
I'm sorry.
00:14:24
Mike
No, you didn't say said first touchdown.
00:14:24
Bhupen
No.
00:14:24
Bhupen
He said.
00:14:24
Trio of Positivity
My apologies.
00:14:25
Trio of Positivity
He threw his first touchdown of the season is what I meant to say. My apologies. ah The rushing game was kind of for both, but Derek Henry was doing Derek Henrik things, did 21 carry 71 yards with two touchdowns.
00:14:38
Trio of Positivity
So I don't want to get too much into the stats. um What were some standout performers of the game? It could be either team. I didn't specify that. I apologize for not specifying.
00:14:50
Trio of Positivity
um But who would you say were standout performers in this game?
00:14:54
Bhupen
performers plural
00:14:56
Trio of Positivity
Yes, I did say plural because last time it was a whole debacle.
00:14:56
Mike
um
00:15:00
Mike
Did we have any? Honestly, I didn't see much on our team. No, I mean, all joking aside, I mean, the only guy that I saw sometimes around the ball on the defensive side was Trevon Dexter, ah he had a sack.
00:15:12
Mike
He had two tackles for loss and seven tackles. So he was actually playing some defense on that line, um unlike other individuals that may be a combined salary of $150 million dollars that we don't want to talk about. But Trevon Dexter definitely kind of make it made an impact on the interior of the defensive line.
00:15:31
Bhupen
Miller always worried about people getting paid. um I could not look at the defense. I couldn't look at the defense for any standout performance because, God, it was awful. um I looked at the offense, and Darnell Wright, who Miller wanted to bench and cut and fired and everything two weeks ago, three weeks ago?
00:15:49
Mike
No, no, that was week one or two.
00:15:52
Bhupen
don't know. Maybe two.
00:15:53
Mike
Week one two.
00:15:55
Bhupen
don't know.
00:15:55
Mike
One of those. Because he was getting, he had like five false starts and two holding penalties in two games.
00:16:00
Bhupen
Hey, if you give people a second chance, they come back. He was our second highest rated player for the game by PFF. Shut the fuck up, Chris.
00:16:08
Mike
You know what's funny? You know what's funny? This just tells me he didn't listen to the fucking episodes on vacation because I've already been here and I've praised the motherfucker for like four weeks straight.
00:16:17
Trio of Positivity
also this whole thing we never talked about hold on before yeah i'll let you finish i just want to say one thing this whole thing with pff i know you didn't listen because even players hate pff but continue
00:16:18
Bhupen
ah Can i get I finish? Can I finish? Okay, Kanye.
00:16:29
Bhupen
I know. I saw the JJ Ward thing. Anyway, ah he was rated at 86.1. There were only two players rated in the 80s. Everyone else was 70 and below. um Even compared to the play on the other side of the line, on the left side, that was that admirable, so I threw it up there.
00:16:44
Bhupen
like Compared to what he was doing week one, week two, probably injured, getting penalties. This seems to be a different player. no No penalties whatsoever for him to play in game.
00:16:58
Trio of Positivity
I have to give it to Derek Henry, man. The yards are not there, but he scored two touchdowns, which turned to be...
00:17:04
Bhupen
Are you Ravens fan now?
00:17:06
Trio of Positivity
but Listen, when I clearly said it could be for any team, because I agree with Miller, there really was not much to talk about on the offensive side.
00:17:15
Mike
Well, there was.
00:17:15
Trio of Positivity
defense defense Defense at best was...
00:17:15
Mike
No one mentioned it
00:17:17
Bhupen
I mean, I mean, Rome had a hundred fucking yards, but all right, whatever.
00:17:21
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but it doesn't... In this game, it didn't really feel like it did anything. I don't know. We can talk more about that here in a bit. But I'll give it to Derek Henry. um He was a former player on my fantasy football team.
00:17:34
Trio of Positivity
Did not get to keep him. But I'm sure he helped out some people out there. So let's go ahead and break this down a little bit, boys. let's go Let's go ahead and get this Caleb conversation going. We're going to start with the offense.
00:17:46
Trio of Positivity
ah The offense played as if it maybe was actually thrown with the horrible bathwater.
00:17:51
Bhupen
I love that.
00:17:52
Trio of Positivity
um
00:17:52
Mike
That was so much better with you talking than it was reading.
00:17:52
Bhupen
Thank you for doing it.
00:17:55
Mike
I'm going to honest.
00:17:56
Bhupen
Thank you for doing that.
00:17:56
Trio of Positivity
It sounds good, right?
00:17:57
Trio of Positivity
I actually came up with that on my own.
00:17:57
Mike
It does.
00:17:57
Bhupen
Thank you.
00:17:57
Mike
it does.
00:17:59
Bhupen
Thank you. That sounds awesome.
00:17:59
Trio of Positivity
um For those that don't know, I learned that phrase last week and I was told that that's actually a pretty common phrase, which again, i don't understand i still don't understand the premise.
00:18:06
Bhupen
I don't know if it's common, but it' it's out there.
00:18:09
Trio of Positivity
Fucking just chucking babies and shit, but... Boys, it's now two days two weeks in a row that we are seeing some kind of lack when it comes to offensive production.
Bears' Offensive and Defensive Analysis
00:18:20
Trio of Positivity
How are we feeling now with this offense being seven total games in instead of just the last two?
00:18:26
Trio of Positivity
Let's look at the whole season.
00:18:29
Bhupen
Yeah, um we could definitely do better at finishing drives. Miller brought up accuracy. That's been something well-documented. Like, he's one of the worst passers of the ball, especially deep ball.
00:18:40
Bhupen
um So that's definitely the area of improvement, I think. But again, kind of going back to what I wanted to talk about initially was we still lead the league in explosive plays.
00:18:53
Bhupen
And not just lead it by a little bit. We lead it by a whole play a game. Right? We're still scoring 40, 24 points a game. Are there areas we could do better? Absolutely. But I feel like I have more positivity about this team. could It could be coming from Ben. It could be coming from Ben as in Ben Johnson, not the other Ben.
00:19:13
Bhupen
um You know? Like, it could be many things.
00:19:14
Trio of Positivity
That's a shot.
00:19:15
Bhupen
but But, like, I want to i want to have proper context to this. We are 4-2. Right? We have some winnable games coming up.
00:19:25
Mike
Four and three.
00:19:27
Bhupen
Sorry, four and three. fote Thank you, River. have four and three. We have a couple winnable games coming up. Like, it's not all doom and gloom. Yes, when we lose games, it feels like fire the coach, fire the GM, fire his fucking mistress. Everybody gets fired.
00:19:43
Bhupen
But let's have proper content.
00:19:44
Mike
Ben Johnson does not have a mistress.
00:19:46
Bhupen
I, yeah I, out I, ah sorry, that's Twitter's job.
00:19:47
Mike
Do not spread rumors like that.
00:19:50
Trio of Positivity
Twitter's going to go and nuts.
00:19:51
Bhupen
Yeah, that's Twitter's job. I'm sorry. But, like, I just want to have, like, yes, the last game, last couple of games, we have, like, Caleb hasn't thrown a touchdown. We we are panicked. I get that. But, people, take a deep breath.
00:20:05
Bhupen
We are on a slightly better path than last year, at least coaching-wise. So, I have belief. I believe. That's where I'm going to leave it at.
00:20:12
Trio of Positivity
Miller, what do you think?
00:20:13
Mike
I agree with you. i just am very scared because we're ever at the point where Boopin isn't preaching belief.
00:20:23
Mike
We were in trouble.
00:20:25
Bhupen
You know what?
00:20:26
Mike
But.
00:20:26
Bhupen
Historically, that's true. I've done this with Fields. I've done this probably with Mitch.
00:20:31
Mike
But. But it's just like if you dive into the nuts and bolts of these this game in particular and you look at the drives that we have. It is just.
00:20:46
Mike
Heads over heels better than what we had to deal with last year. Even the year before that and the year before that and year before that. Like you're talking about stagnant offenses. Talking about ah offenses that couldn't move the ball.
00:20:59
Mike
We'd get out there. Four and out. Four and out. Four and out. or and out Touchdown. Four and out. Like it wasn't good offensive football. And then you dive into what Caleb's been doing on his off games.
00:21:14
Mike
And it's just like he's putting up almost 300 yards. We had six drives. One wasn't a scoring. Well, two weren't scoring because of missed field goal. And then the the the downs at the end of the game that averaged 58 yards a drive.
00:21:32
Mike
So we're moving the ball up and down the field. Anybody that watched the game knows that mistakes were made by Caleb. You're talking about that interception was horrible.
00:21:44
Mike
I mean, he threw it into double coverage. He had a the back out of the backfield that was pretty much wide open, horrible interception. You can't do that. That's, that's a huge mistake. But, I mean, it doesn't mean that he didn't have a decent day.
00:21:58
Mike
I mean, he was threading the needle down the field. He was throwing 20-yard, 15, 20-yard passes to Rome, to DJ. He was spreading the ball around. And that's what you want out of your offense.
00:22:10
Mike
So, to sit here and say that they the offense was completely lackluster is...
00:22:11
Bhupen
Thank you.
00:22:15
Mike
not fair in my opinion. It was between the 20s that we were very successful. And then when we got inside the 20 yard line, which I'd be it. I mean, you we need to be better. We talked about that last week on the tips of that for this game. It was penalties and it was needing to turn field goals into touchdowns.
00:22:34
Mike
We did neither well. And obviously we lost, but you can't be doing that. You got to score touchdowns, but we, we move the ball very well between the twenties. Caleb played decent, make huge mistakes.
00:22:46
Mike
Not going to say he costs us the game. Cause we'll get into the defense in a little bit, but he definitely had, definitely had mistakes that added to that loss.
00:22:56
Trio of Positivity
So here's here's the thing that I am at the point of when it comes to watching seven games. It's that we're hitting the part where we're trying to praise whatever we can praise because we know that the negativity speaks louder.
00:23:17
Trio of Positivity
At the end of the day, you can have 400 yards and still only score 16 points, and people will be happy that he threw 400 yards. And we should not be a team that looks at that. like that The fact that we have big plays, we have big plays and yet we don't score.
00:23:35
Trio of Positivity
There's got to come a point where for certain things, stats matter. I completely agree. But for this game, and Miller's right, we'll talk about penalties, we'll talk about the defense, we'll talk about that.
00:23:47
Trio of Positivity
It's the mistakes. there's There's only so much you can do with mistakes, especially when you repeat it. There was a statement out there that when Caleb was asked about the interception, he praised the defense that they did a great job.
00:24:02
Trio of Positivity
Ben Johnson came back and said, nope, that ball should not have been thrown there. Caleb said, I still would have thrown it there.
00:24:10
Mike
That's not what happened.
00:24:10
Trio of Positivity
That's a disconnect.
00:24:11
Mike
That is not what happened.
00:24:11
Trio of Positivity
Basically, that's how I understood it.
00:24:12
Mike
Okay.
00:24:13
Trio of Positivity
That's how I understood it.
00:24:13
Mike
Let me break it down. Let me break it down.
00:24:15
Trio of Positivity
Go ahead.
00:24:15
Mike
Caleb came out before Ben.
00:24:16
Bhupen
ah Wait, wait, wait. ah well we We got Miller from the press conference. mill Miller, are you there?
00:24:20
Trio of Positivity
Oh, good call.
00:24:20
Bhupen
Can you report?
00:24:20
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, go ahead.
00:24:21
Mike
Caleb came out before Ben and they were asking about the play and he's like, it was a good ball. The defense just, it was the right read and it was a good ball. ah the The defense just made a good play.
00:24:32
Trio of Positivity
He said it was a right read into double coverage.
00:24:34
Mike
Yep. Yep. And then Ben said, he was asked about the play. He's like, I feel like the ball could have gone elsewhere. That's...
00:24:42
Trio of Positivity
Right. Now, here's here's what a lot of people are taking from that statement, is that you have a quarterback and a coach who see one play right after the game is over, and they are not aligned, and they are not aligned.
00:24:52
Bhupen
Wait, no, but hang on, a hang on
00:24:56
Bhupen
Hang on, no. Like, you when you look at the play, the linebacker or, like, whoever, the safety, whoever the guy that intercepted the ball, he was not in the play, and he kind of read Caleb, like, I i would take his criticism that he was kind of honing on to Rome, but I...
00:25:11
Bhupen
you When you're behind a play and you see that, like, we had a similar interception with our safety last game when Bayer just cut the route and caught the ball because he was breaking on the ball. He saw the route. He intercepted the ball.
00:25:23
Bhupen
That's what happened. I feel like to say, like, he shouldn't have won in on that one receiver. That's probably where Ben is coming from.
00:25:31
Trio of Positivity
but but that's But here's the thing, though, Boopin.
00:25:31
Bhupen
think...
00:25:33
Trio of Positivity
You have a cu a quarterback who, when they answer that question, the way that he answered it, it sounded like he would still throw it there in comparison to the coach saying, you throw to the open guy.
00:25:41
Bhupen
Well, he...
00:25:43
Mike
but Well, Chris, i don't I don't want to be mean, but he's coming off the field.
00:25:49
Trio of Positivity
That's fine. No, I said that.
00:25:49
Mike
he He went through the progressions, and he determined that that was the best place to throw the ball.
00:25:50
Trio of Positivity
i Right. No, no, no. that's Yes, that's what I'm saying.
00:25:56
Trio of Positivity
Right.
00:25:56
Mike
So why would his mind change just because of an interception?
00:25:58
Bhupen
Right, 101...
00:25:59
Trio of Positivity
because the whole so Because the whole thing about this quarterback working with the coach is that the quarterback needs to start thinking like his coach. And if the coach is already saying, it would it should have gone elsewhere.
00:26:08
Bhupen
it's
00:26:12
Bhupen
it If I may say, he's talking about the effort, right?
00:26:13
Mike
But
00:26:16
Bhupen
He's saying he saw single coverage with Rome.
00:26:17
Trio of Positivity
No. he's talked he he thought
00:26:19
Bhupen
He threw the ball. Rome was beating his guy.
00:26:20
Trio of Positivity
that What Caleb is saying is that he credited the defensive player for making the play.
00:26:24
Bhupen
No, you are, Chris, you're looking at the result. You're saying after the interception happened.
00:26:27
Trio of Positivity
No, no, no, I'm looking at what Caleb said.
00:26:29
Bhupen
No, no, no. That's what I'm trying to explain to you. So what Caleb is, I think, trying to say is... Rome had a guy, and like he had a place where he could place ball the ball so Rome would catch it, the other guy wouldn't.
00:26:42
Bhupen
This guy is undercutting the route and caught it, right? So I think what Caleb is saying is maybe it could have be delivered higher, faster, differently, but he's saying that was the right play because I saw Rome beating his guy.
00:26:55
Bhupen
This guy undercutting the route is a different thing because I don't think Caleb can see that.
00:26:57
Trio of Positivity
Right. Boopin. Okay, but here's the thing. What you're saying is you're giving credit to Caleb where right after the game, the coach said ah it it should have gone elsewhere.
00:27:11
Bhupen
But no, I'm not i'm not giving credit.
00:27:11
Trio of Positivity
All I'm saying... Hold on. All I'm saying... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. All I'm saying with that statement is that if a coach is not coming in to support and say, yeah, that was a great defensive play, I will give credit to Miller where it's like it's after the game. Maybe they'll look at the play...
00:27:25
Trio of Positivity
And maybe they'll say something different. Sure. But a lot of times we always look at those postgame press conferences, just like if we look at the postgame press conference wins. We still take those by value.
00:27:36
Trio of Positivity
So just because it's after the game, whether it's a win or a loss, it's irrelevant because that's what's being said at that moment.
00:27:41
Bhupen
i i but hey i hate that I hate that he makes me feel like I'm defending Caleb, but I'm saying as a quarterback, my effort was the right way.
00:27:42
Mike
Nah, now shut up.
00:27:43
Mike
Shut up. Yes.
00:27:51
Bhupen
And what you're saying is you're saying the result was an interception. So now you're looking back at the whole thing. I'm looking at before the interception happened, what progression?
00:27:57
Mike
he's not talking about any of that. He's literally just comparing that the quarterback and that the that the coach are on different wavelengths.
00:27:59
Bhupen
Okay.
00:28:05
Mike
That's all I say. And my only point to this was Caleb's going to come out because he's the one that's the quarterback. He's the one that's looking down the field. We can sit here and second guess every move that he makes and point out the fact that Manungai was wide open in the flat, but you don't even know if the progressions got there.
00:28:24
Mike
He may not have got there.
00:28:24
Trio of Positivity
You don't. You're absolutely right.
00:28:25
Mike
He saw that Rome beat his guy and he threw a ball that was a little behind and the cornerback was able to cut the route. That's what he saw. So there's no doubt in my mind that of course he's going to come out and say it was a great read because that's the read that he made and he made a bad throw in his mind.
00:28:41
Mike
Now he's going to look at the tape and realize, oh, I had Mononga in there.
00:28:45
Bhupen
right
00:28:46
Mike
But I mean, you i understand where you're coming from, Chris, and talking about how they're supposed to be on the same page. It is early. We're talking about seven games in,
00:28:54
Trio of Positivity
Yep. Yep. That's why I said the one thing that i that caught me in the seven games is that part right there.
00:28:56
Mike
but
00:29:00
Trio of Positivity
Because, hey, i'm I'll say it. Loveland got some touches. He only got five targets, but he caught three. Hey, that's pretty good.
00:29:08
Bhupen
hes He was the only tight end probably playing.
00:29:11
Bhupen
Komet was hurt.
00:29:11
Trio of Positivity
but ah That's what saying.
00:29:12
Trio of Positivity
Pretty good.
00:29:12
Bhupen
Komet was hurt.
00:29:13
Trio of Positivity
A Dunze, yeah, he got seven for 114.
00:29:13
Bhupen
but
00:29:16
Trio of Positivity
That's great. But what I'm saying is it's mistakes that are costing the Bears wins right now. And we're at a point in the season. where it doesn't matter how many yards, how many big plays, or how how we're doing this, all of that is meaningless if we can't score points.
00:29:34
Bhupen
Fucking, okay, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:29:34
Mike
Awesome transition. Stop talking. Stop talking.
00:29:36
Bhupen
No, no, no.
00:29:37
Mike
No, no, no.
00:29:37
Bhupen
Time out, time out, time out, time out.
00:29:37
Mike
This isn't true me.
00:29:38
Bhupen
No, no, time out.
00:29:39
Bhupen
We were winning. We were winning fucking two weeks ago and you were still bitching. We were winning.
00:29:39
Mike
Come on, dude.
00:29:44
Trio of Positivity
Yes, because it's a trend, Bupin, it's a trend.
00:29:44
Bhupen
We were winning ugly. No, no, no, no, no. We were winning. You said, you said when we were winning and it was ugly, you were not happy then too. So shut the fuck up about like, like it needs to be win.
00:29:55
Trio of Positivity
Well, hold on. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
00:29:56
Mike
Why can't you just let me transition to my point?
00:29:56
Trio of Positivity
So what you're saying.
00:29:59
Bhupen
No, no, he can't have it both ways.
00:29:59
Trio of Positivity
Go.
00:30:02
Trio of Positivity
do you mean I can have a boss?
00:30:02
Mike
It's not a...
00:30:03
Trio of Positivity
You literally you literally just said that I am not happy about the offense.
00:30:03
Bhupen
you we We were winning.
00:30:04
Mike
Boopin, you're literally sitting here making me defend him because the offense hasn't looked great since the Cowboys game.
00:30:05
Bhupen
We were winning.
00:30:07
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:30:14
Mike
It's the bottom line.
00:30:14
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:30:16
Mike
Caleb's done some good things, but it hasn't really looked cohesive as a full unit, and you're making me sit here and defend this fucker.
00:30:24
Bhupen
All right. All right. I'll let you go.
00:30:25
Trio of Positivity
We're at the point where, you know what I honestly believe?
00:30:26
Mike
Fuck.
00:30:28
Trio of Positivity
And Midler, I'll finish my point. We'll transition to you. I honestly, you know, you know what I think ah the screens and we always talk about, you know what I think is the main reason why he does that?
00:30:31
Mike
Fucking damn it.
00:30:38
Trio of Positivity
It's to make Caleb feel comfortable so he can get a completion. That's what I honestly think is happening.
00:30:41
Mike
You're so full of shit.
00:30:43
Trio of Positivity
That's what honestly think is happening.
00:30:43
Mike
Look. Okay. You said you because Boopin needed interrupt me.
00:30:45
Trio of Positivity
Go ahead, Miller.
00:30:48
Mike
You sat here and you said that mistakes, mistakes, mistakes aren't resulting in points. Let me ask you a question.
00:30:57
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
00:30:58
Mike
As far as scoring efficiency on a drive, where do you think the bears are?
00:31:04
Trio of Positivity
Score on the scoring efficiency, meaning if it's a field goal or a touchdown.
00:31:07
Mike
Yes. every Every drive, how many drives do the bear how many drives get points, percentage-wise?
00:31:14
Trio of Positivity
Seven more than 70 probably.
00:31:14
Mike
Where do you think?
00:31:17
Mike
Do you think 70% of our drives get points?
00:31:20
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. So that's what for every 10 drives we get points on seven.
00:31:21
Mike
So you're bitching about an offense that's 70%?
00:31:25
Bhupen
That's really good. You know that, right?
00:31:26
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but we don't have that many drives in the game. Look how many drives we had now.
00:31:31
Mike
70%. That's insane. That would be crazy. Okay, well, this isn't going to impress you that much.
00:31:35
Trio of Positivity
I mean, hold on. if you look at If you look at this game right now, first, hold on.
00:31:38
Mike
But where do you think that ok where do you think that ranks in the league?
00:31:41
Trio of Positivity
Oh, I don't care about the ranks, but let's just look at this real quick.
00:31:43
Bhupen
five.
00:31:44
Trio of Positivity
Field goal, first drive. Second drive, field goal. Third drive, punt. Fourth drive, field goal. Or missed field goal, sorry. Fifth drive, punt. That's the end of the third quarter. That's five drives.
00:31:56
Trio of Positivity
And it's already the end of the third quarter. So in those five drives, we only scored twice.
00:31:58
Bhupen
But you can't control many times? Brother, you can't control how often you get the ball.
00:32:03
Mike
okay you're not Okay, so the bottom line is you just had a statement a few minutes ago complaining that mistakes, mistakes, mistakes are not resulting in points. I would like to point out to you that the Bears are currently fourth in the NFL in scoring efficiency on drives, hitting out a 52.4% rate.
00:32:25
Mike
So that means on 52% of their drives, they are scoring points. That is behind the Packers, the Colts, and the Chiefs. So to sit here and preach that we're not driving and scoring points is 100% wrong.
00:32:33
Trio of Positivity
Okay. I have a question.
00:32:38
Trio of Positivity
I have a question. I have a question.
00:32:39
Bhupen
Why are we number one?
00:32:41
Trio of Positivity
That is false. That is false because the only reason why that's been happening over this course of the fucking season is because of the turnovers and where we're placed in the field. So that's irrelevant. You can't use that stat without knowing that if we don't have the turnovers, the drives would be longer.
00:32:56
Mike
You're acting like the turnovers have given us the ball on like the 10-yard line every time.
00:32:59
Bhupen
Did Miller say our average?
00:33:00
Trio of Positivity
But it gives us the ball closer than it would have been on a punt or it would have been on a kickoff.
00:33:01
Bhupen
Hang on. Hang on. Miller.
00:33:03
Mike
Oh, that's so stupid.
00:33:04
Bhupen
Miller. Miller said our average dies for 58 yards. Just like two.
00:33:09
Mike
Yeah, our average drive is 58 yards.
00:33:09
Bhupen
Two.
00:33:11
Mike
du You could read it yourself.
00:33:11
Bhupen
No, it's...
00:33:12
Mike
Like, dude, we're moving the ball. We're getting in range. We have preached the fact that we cannot score touchdowns, and that is the biggest killer on this team. It's not moving the ball.
00:33:22
Bhupen
me
00:33:24
Mike
It's not anything related to that.
00:33:25
Trio of Positivity
I disagree.
00:33:26
Mike
It's the fact that we are settling for field goals instead of touchdowns.
00:33:26
Trio of Positivity
I disagree.
00:33:30
Bhupen
no it
00:33:30
Mike
You can disagree all you want, but the Bears should have been up fourteen zero giving the ball to the Ravens, and we were up 6-0.
00:33:39
Trio of Positivity
They should have been up more, but yeah. Go ahead, Boopin.
00:33:40
Bhupen
Yeah, yeah, they should have borne 16-0.
00:33:41
Trio of Positivity
We'll finish your up.
00:33:42
Bhupen
Why only 14, Miller?
00:33:44
Trio of Positivity
They should have been up 20 if you wanted to give the missed field goal and then one touchdown.
00:33:44
Bhupen
That's what they would... Yeah.
00:33:48
Mike
Well, they scored, didn't they?
00:33:48
Bhupen
Nerd. Yeah, that's good.
00:33:50
Mike
I thought they scored between that.
00:33:51
Bhupen
Yeah, we've been losing the half.
00:33:53
Mike
They had a touchdown, so it should have been 14, and then it was 14-0.
00:33:54
Bhupen
but ah But I gotta think for the missed field goal. keep Keep reading. Keep going. I gotta think for the missed field goal. Come on.
00:34:01
Mike
Are we good?
00:34:01
Trio of Positivity
You're literally going ahead of the agenda.
00:34:02
Mike
i think i think that covers it.
00:34:03
Trio of Positivity
How dare you?
00:34:04
Bhupen
That's fucking
00:34:06
Mike
I'm fine. i don't think I have anything else.
00:34:06
Trio of Positivity
How dare you? All right, let's go ahead and go into the next point of the agenda, which is special teams, but primarily our kicker Santos came back from injury.
Bears' Kicking Game Assessment
00:34:17
Trio of Positivity
ah The one thing that we saw on one of the drives was a kick for 58 yards, which he missed.
00:34:25
Trio of Positivity
Boobin has his hand up, but sadly, it's Miller that's going to start us off because he was the first bullet point on the agenda. Hence, you want to go ahead and kick us ahead?
00:34:32
Mike
I really want Nunez. I really want Chris to start this one of these days.
00:34:36
Trio of Positivity
I know that's not going to happen, but was it a mistake?
00:34:36
Mike
um All I have, Boobin, I'll be quick.
00:34:38
Trio of Positivity
Hold on. Was it a mistake for Santos to come back? Should we have kept Moody is the question of the agenda, but I know we're not going to go there. So onto you.
00:34:45
Mike
We're really probably not going to cover it. I mean, the only thing I'll say to that matter is you're talking about two kickers, one that's really accurate, One that historically hasn't been accurate, but has a really strong leg.
00:35:00
Mike
And it's up to you to figure out what you want. To defend Cairo here, it was a shit show to end that half. Because of Caleb's mistakes. I believe it was Caleb's mistakes.
00:35:13
Mike
Because of his mistakes of not stopping the clock.
00:35:17
Bhupen
yeah
00:35:17
Mike
it went into craziness because he just slid when he should have tried to get out of bounds and the clock would have stopped and there would have been a little more time to get that field goal in position for him to kick it.
00:35:28
Mike
But we know Cairo's leg isn't strong. My fun fact for you to the day, do you realize,
00:35:35
Bhupen
Fun for whom? Fun for who?
00:35:39
Mike
I don't know, did you do you realize the Bears kicking game Only Robbie Gold has made a field goal from 55 yards or longer since 1948.
00:35:50
Mike
Over 75.
00:35:52
Bhupen
That is insane.
00:35:53
Trio of Positivity
For the bears. Correct.
00:35:57
Trio of Positivity
And just want to point it out, brother.
00:35:58
Mike
Over 75 years. That's crazy.
00:36:01
Trio of Positivity
All right.
00:36:02
Mike
Obviously, Robbie was with us for a little while. But still, I mean, you're talking 55 yards. Like... yards like
00:36:07
Trio of Positivity
I think it wasn't, wasn't his longest with the 49ers. I feel like he, his longest was with the Niners.
00:36:12
Mike
I mean, it makes sense because you're talking about California weather compared to Chicago weather.
00:36:12
Trio of Positivity
Wasn't it?
00:36:15
Bhupen
Yeah, plus the field, like, fuck, like, the 59-yarder a couple weeks ago was the longest.
00:36:17
Trio of Positivity
That's fair.
00:36:21
Mike
But 55 yards. We haven't had a kicker that kicked 55 yards other than Robbie Gold.
00:36:25
Bhupen
I know, it's shocking, I know, but, like, i was thinking the Soldier Field.
00:36:26
Trio of Positivity
Yes.
00:36:29
Mike
Okay, go ahead.
00:36:32
Bhupen
Did you guys know that the kicking ball and the the quarterback throwing balls are different balls?
00:36:40
Bhupen
Do guys know? No, did you know that?
00:36:40
Trio of Positivity
yes
00:36:43
Mike
I don't think I really knew that, but I could assume that because I'm assuming it's just like anything in the NFL where the quarterback has the ball the way they like it.
00:36:46
Bhupen
Yeah. like
00:36:52
Mike
The kicker has it the ball the way they like it. Everybody has perfect, which is why Tom Brady fucked everybody over. The flake gate.
00:37:00
Bhupen
oh So, somewhere I heard that um because of the mistakes, whatever, the kicking field, because the ball was already set, right? The ref had the ball. He set the ball.
00:37:12
Bhupen
Because of all that going on, I heard that Santos was not kicking the kicking ball. It was a throwing ball. don't know if you guys remember a similar thing happened last week. That's how I learned about this, is um these kind of kicks when they're like...
00:37:28
Bhupen
They come in and try to do this kick. Supposedly they practice every week. It's called Hurricane or something. um And they practice with a different ball. Like, it's practiced with different ball. And that that's what I learned. i don' I'm not trying to... While we know Santos over 50 is always iffy at best, NFL might want to address this if it's twice in two weeks.
00:37:48
Bhupen
that And it was not off by that much, right? He was, like, short by a little bit. If the other ball was there, it might have gone in, is what I'm trying to
00:37:54
Mike
NFL shouldn't address shit. Sorry. When your team is bad at planning, you can't get the ball down. You can't do what you need to do to be in a position. The NFL shouldn't care about it.
00:38:03
Bhupen
Well, like, everyone knows it's end of half, right?
00:38:03
Mike
Sorry.
00:38:05
Bhupen
Just be prepared in case they're kicking the field goal. That's all I'm saying.
00:38:07
Mike
But you're not going to get a new ball in there.
00:38:08
Trio of Positivity
yeah You're not.
00:38:09
Mike
You're just not going to.
00:38:10
Trio of Positivity
it's It's three seconds or whatever time was left on the clock. Like, that's it's not their responsibility.
00:38:14
Bhupen
It's got to be, like, 10 seconds if a new du like special team's coming up.
00:38:16
Trio of Positivity
It's still not their responsibility to get the ball. It's the responsibility of the team.
00:38:18
Mike
Not happening.
00:38:19
Bhupen
It's twice in two weeks. Like, I'm saying, like, the kick was short because they kicked the controlling ball.
00:38:24
Mike
That's you don't know that you don't, you know, you don't, his leg is not strong.
00:38:24
Bhupen
That's all I'm
00:38:26
Trio of Positivity
That's... um So...
00:38:28
Mike
What is his career long? I don't know offhand.
00:38:30
Bhupen
saying. 55, probably. That's what I'm putting.
00:38:32
Mike
Okay. Then how are you going to say it's short because of the ball?
00:38:34
Trio of Positivity
He was, out it was out of his range then. Yeah. So even with a boosted ball, it wouldn't have mattered.
00:38:39
Mike
But let's focus on Chris because he's the one that's loving on them.
00:38:39
Trio of Positivity
Um,
00:38:42
Bhupen
Yes, Chris.
00:38:43
Mike
Jake ease.
00:38:45
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, so I actually had to do research before we even talked about this game um because I'm actually doing it for a class assignment. ah So there's already a stat out there.
00:38:55
Trio of Positivity
And Boopin, it's they're called K-balls. ah The team is actually given 60 of them in a season. And then they can give three to officials, which becomes their official kicking ball. ah but in those games they have to prep it so that's a whole game thing um during my research according to sports radar in 2025 there have been already 90 plus field goal attempts of 50 yards or more with 66 being made but the biggest story of the stat is that there's 60 plus out there there were seven attempt and
00:39:29
Trio of Positivity
ah With four already made so kickers are gonna be an interesting part of the NFL and right now with the kick that he sent it's irrelevant on the ball in my opinion You want to start looking for the stronger leg?
00:39:43
Trio of Positivity
Maybe Santos might not have it like Miller was saying but it's
00:39:48
Bhupen
I mean, like, your your stat even, Chris, like, above 60, there's only less than 50% made.
00:39:53
Bhupen
I'm not saying...
00:39:53
Trio of Positivity
But they're being made on the attempts the majority is still being made
00:39:55
Mike
60. Okay.
00:39:58
Bhupen
I mean, Santos missed it, too. If all you care about misses, he missed it for you.
00:40:02
Mike
I mean, regardless, like, okay, what Chris is saying is our kicker can't even kick it 50 plus in the league. You're hitting about 70%.
00:40:10
Bhupen
we we have We have talked about this.
00:40:10
Trio of Positivity
You're hitting 70 or more.
00:40:11
Mike
That's pretty good.
00:40:12
Bhupen
we have talked about this.
00:40:13
Bhupen
Like, he's solid, but he's not good above 50. We've talked about this.
00:40:13
Mike
But
00:40:17
Trio of Positivity
Okay, but you can't say that that he's solid, but like i hate I hate that every everything that we're doing and as Bears fans, everything is like, yeah, he's great, but like I feel like we're sugarcoating stuff.
00:40:17
Mike
fuck. I lost my question.
00:40:21
Mike
Okay
00:40:31
Trio of Positivity
like That's that that just' just a bad habit. I don't...
00:40:34
Bhupen
I mean, there's only one Brandon Aubrey. I don't know what to tell you.
00:40:34
Mike
Okay can we I have a i've I have a real question for you Chris I'm sure that you know Jake Moody's history
00:40:40
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, go ahead.
00:40:44
Mike
with Sam Fran. It was messy.
00:40:46
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, it was messy.
00:40:47
Mike
Basically from my brother-in-law, he was talking about how extra points they're holding their breaths because he might not be making them.
00:40:55
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:40:57
Mike
With how aggressive Ben Johnson is, do you really think it's important to have a kicker that can consistently hit or not hit consistently have the range for 50-yard field goal, or do you think it's more beneficial when you're on the 40-yard line and Ben Johnson's probably going to go for it majority of the time if it's better to have a kicker that is more accurate closer?
00:41:20
Trio of Positivity
there
00:41:25
Trio of Positivity
So you actually answered my question or you answered the question with what I would have said. I think it's because Ben Johnson has a tendency of going for it when it's like within what I think we said within two or three yards when it's within two or three yards.
00:41:39
Bhupen
Thank
00:41:39
Trio of Positivity
We we seem to say.
00:41:40
Mike
Well, that's like even closer. So it's like <unk>s like fourth and three.
00:41:41
Trio of Positivity
Right.
00:41:43
Mike
that It's like inside 30 is like almost automatic.
00:41:46
Trio of Positivity
His it's his go to range. Yeah.
00:41:48
Mike
He's going to go in for it.
00:41:49
Trio of Positivity
My thing is, would he change his mind? And I don't know this. I'm just posing this as a question. Would he change his mind if he knew he had a kicker that could kick more than 55 yards? I don't know.
00:42:00
Mike
But you don't know how accurate Moody is at 55 yards.
00:42:03
Trio of Positivity
No, you're you're right.
00:42:04
Mike
yeah He has the leg to do it, but...
00:42:04
Trio of Positivity
i'm not um that's My only thing is that he has the leg. whether it's the The accuracy is always going to be a question for these kickers. But I do notice that some teams, and correct me if I'm wrong, but there are some teams that seem to trot out their 53-yarder.
00:42:20
Trio of Positivity
Let's get out there. like There are some teams out there that seem to do that with more confidence than the Bears.
00:42:22
Mike
i It's not... That's accurate. It's not as many teams as you think. I really think it's the Cowboys, Houston, and Tampa Bay.
00:42:28
Trio of Positivity
It's not. But the good ones.
00:42:33
Mike
And I think that is basically the line.
00:42:37
Trio of Positivity
But Tampa is a really good team.
00:42:37
Bhupen
Jaguars?
00:42:39
Mike
Jaguars don't necessarily...
00:42:40
Bhupen
Didn't that guy kick a 70?
00:42:40
Trio of Positivity
Well, Jaguars is because they had the one kicker attempt to 60 plus.
00:42:41
Mike
I don't think...
00:42:41
Bhupen
i
00:42:43
Mike
They had... Like, he kicked it, but, like... I don't know if...
00:42:47
Bhupen
he kicked 70 in the preseason, I think. That's what it was.
00:42:49
Mike
No, he kicked, like, 67, I think.
00:42:52
Trio of Positivity
All right. we we I think we spent more time on this than we should. well Let's close this out ah with two things. Let's talk about the defense for a little bit. I believe the defense kept the game close, even though the final score did not show it.
00:43:04
Trio of Positivity
What do you think this defense will do? Will this defense continue to hold up waiting for the offense to produce? Let's start with Boopin.
00:43:12
Mike
You're such
00:43:14
Trio of Positivity
Oh, I just noticed the... Okay, Miller has to start it because there's apparently a follow-up.
00:43:21
Mike
No, there isn't. It was just fine.
00:43:22
Bhupen
Um...
00:43:24
Mike
Booping can go. Oh, he was agreeing with me.
00:43:25
Bhupen
um
00:43:27
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, there you go.
00:43:27
Mike
OK, this is a horrible thought. I don't know. This is the crux of my annoyance today, which is why I poured big glass of whiskey. is I don't understand how you are giving the defense a skate and placing most of the blame on Caleb.
00:43:44
Mike
So the offense had its problems.
00:43:45
Trio of Positivity
um
00:43:48
Mike
Caleb had its problems. He gave up an interception. I'm going to remove that interception and subsequently those seven points from this equation and say, we gave up 23 points to a fifth string quarterback.
00:44:02
Mike
Yes, let me repeat myself. A fifth string quarterback. He was the fifth quarterback on the Browns roster this preseason. He subsequently got cut and he got signed by the Ravens.
00:44:16
Mike
Our defensive line, they got three pressures, zero takeaways. We allowed them to drive 53 yards on average for their scoring drives.
00:44:25
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
00:44:29
Mike
And if you're not considering the the interception drive where they got the ball in the seven, we were allowing them to drive almost 63 yards on average to score points.
00:44:42
Mike
You can't do that against that caliber of a quarterback. Derrick Henry did not have a great game. You praised him. He had two touchdowns. Fine. But he was averaging just over three yards a carry.
00:44:56
Mike
That's not a good... but rushing game for him. I know Adelaide, not Adelaide, I know their Keaton Mitchell, I believe is their backup.
00:45:00
Bhupen
you
00:45:06
Mike
He scampered for quite a few yards as well. But the bottom line is this defense did not play well. um We allowed them to drive up and down the field on us and score points almost at will.
00:45:17
Mike
So it was a collective loss.
00:45:20
Trio of Positivity
Boopin?
00:45:25
Trio of Positivity
Oh, alright, he doesn't have anything to say.
00:45:25
Bhupen
the
00:45:27
Trio of Positivity
Perfect.
00:45:28
Mike
yeah
00:45:29
Bhupen
Wait, I'm back.
00:45:32
Trio of Positivity
god
00:45:32
Bhupen
Agree with Miller. um i also want to add some context, okay? Our defense was playing way above expectations before this. Having the top two cornerbacks out didn't help.
00:45:45
Bhupen
They have shored up when they're healthy, but this was flat-out beat down by a team that has Super Bowl hopes. Like, we we were leading the league takeaways, and, you know, we were this fancy team that had swagger.
00:45:57
Trio of Positivity
Can you clarify who had Super Bowl hopes?
00:45:59
Bhupen
Oh, sorry, Baltimore.
00:45:59
Mike
Baltimore, I think.
00:46:01
Bhupen
Baltimore Ravens.
00:46:01
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
00:46:02
Bhupen
Like, a lot of people had them going to Super Bowl.
00:46:03
Trio of Positivity
Before the season, because not not right now.
00:46:05
Bhupen
No, not...
00:46:06
Mike
oh they're currently favorite to win the South or the North, the AFC North.
00:46:11
Trio of Positivity
Wow, okay, i did not know that.
00:46:11
Bhupen
they have they have a cake They have a cake of a schedule coming up in two weeks, but...
00:46:15
Mike
Including the Bears.
00:46:16
Bhupen
and we No, they have two tough games coming up, I think, and it's all green after that. But, anyway, um I just want to, like, say that.
00:46:21
Mike
It was a joke.
00:46:25
Bhupen
Like, yes, our defense didn't show up. Klay left out a bunch of mistakes, but, like, just just want to put it out there. We were doing better than expected, leading the league in takeaways, and that didn't happen.
00:46:36
Bhupen
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We've talked a lot. That's what I think.
00:46:40
Trio of Positivity
So the reason that I say that our defense played better than what the score showed is this could have been a bloodbath given the first couple of drives that we had and they settled for field goals.
00:46:52
Trio of Positivity
I'm a big fan of when ah team is supposed to score and they settle for field goals that gives an offense a chance to get caught up. And the Bears did that. There was plenty of drives where they did that. I think the only drive that was a full blown from beginning to end was the, uh,
00:47:10
Trio of Positivity
The touchdown after the field goal before the end of the game, that's when they really drove at the end. And I will say there were some bad runs that ah their quarterback had where there was nobody up in the middle and he would just run up like crazy. So like, yeah, those plays I get.
00:47:25
Trio of Positivity
But when you look at how the game started compared to what the score could have been, they settled for field goals, which you always want as a defense. You never want to give up touchdowns. So that's why in my belief, they kept it close until the fourth quarter.
00:47:41
Bhupen
I mean, they scored going to the hat, but OK.
00:47:45
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but what was the score at the half?
00:47:47
Mike
10 to 6.
00:47:47
Bhupen
third
00:47:47
Mike
I
00:47:48
Trio of Positivity
Like, it's still, to me, that's still pretty close. and I don't...
00:47:52
Mike
i mean, they kept it close. I mean, I'll give you that.
00:47:53
Trio of Positivity
They kept it close.
00:47:54
Mike
They kept it close until Caleb's bad interception. That's what put him over the top.
00:47:57
Trio of Positivity
Now, in in in this stance, though, we will say that without a takeaway, we are starting to see a trend that the offense now needs takeaways to score, which is what I was...
00:47:58
Mike
But...
00:48:07
Mike
No, that's not true. They need takeaways to to win.
00:48:09
Trio of Positivity
What's the... state
00:48:12
Trio of Positivity
Okay, sorry. That makes it worse, but thank you. Apparently we need takeaways to win, and this is now a game where you can say this might be true. We don't know if it's currently a trend, but it is something that you can at least say.
00:48:21
Bhupen
You
00:48:25
Mike
No, it's definitely a trend. i
00:48:26
Bhupen
you you make it sound like, Chris, you make it sound like you have not watched Bears football for the last 20 years.
00:48:27
Mike
Caleb has not won.
00:48:32
Trio of Positivity
I'm trying to be optimistic because it's the defense, and I feel like now we're at a point where if the defense doesn't produce at least one turnover during the game, we know the Bears are losing.
00:48:40
Mike
No, that's not right. You're felt you you're sitting here. You can read Ben's text messages. Apparently, I'm the only one that to deal with is bullshit. Caleb has not won a game where the defense has not gotten two turnovers.
00:48:54
Mike
It's not just one turnover.
00:48:56
Bhupen
Thank you.
00:48:56
Mike
He needs two turnovers. Yes, shout out Ben. Fuck you. i gave you your shout out and I dropped your stat.
00:49:01
Trio of Positivity
You're welcome, Ben. You're welcome, Ben. That's what I wanted out of all of this. Mission accomplished, boys.
00:49:08
Mike
Holy shit.
00:49:10
Trio of Positivity
All right. Last topic.
00:49:10
Mike
Let's move on to
00:49:11
Trio of Positivity
Last topic. I found this interesting tweet and that made me want to bring up a tinfoil hat.
Penalty Issues and Team Discipline
00:49:17
Trio of Positivity
Funny enough, I was going to make a tinfoil hat, but we actually don't have tinfoil at the house. So, ah Scott, I know.
00:49:22
Mike
do you not have tinfoil?
00:49:23
Trio of Positivity
I don't know. I mean,
00:49:24
Mike
I mean aluminum foil, I'm assuming you're done.
00:49:27
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, aluminum foil. um So Scott Baier, B-A-I-R, I don't know if I'm saying his last name right, while Boopin has his physical whatever's happening over there, ah he tweeted out saying, per NFLpenalties.com,
00:49:42
Trio of Positivity
The Bears have been flagged 64 times for 533 yards, which was the second highest per game penalty count in the league. Bears opponents have been flagged 36 times for 254 yards, which is the second lowest per game count in the league.
00:50:01
Trio of Positivity
Is there a conspiracy, boys?
00:50:03
Bhupen
Against the Bears,
00:50:03
Mike
Boopin, you can go. I'm always first for some reason. booping you can go
00:50:07
Bhupen
oh Bears rank dead last in pre-snap penalties in the league. And we have 34th worst in penalties overall.
00:50:17
Bhupen
If you ask me, that's a primary area of improvement. This was asked this week, and our center, Drew Dahlman, actually addressed it, saying, hey, we know this is an issue. This is something we work on.
00:50:30
Bhupen
Whatever area they work on seems to be getting better, but there's other areas that they, like, fall short on it. Basically what he said, basically it sounds like an excuse. Big story short, we have seen improvement. We talked about Darnell Wright. He had a lot of pre-snap penalties.
00:50:45
Bhupen
It's not happening anymore, so there seemed to be a focus on it, but... Long story short, this is the biggest area needed if you ask the Bears, and we suck at it, plain and simple.
00:50:57
Trio of Positivity
Miller, what do you think?
00:50:58
Mike
I think Caleb's the bigger need, but hey, here or there. um
00:51:02
Bhupen
I disagree.
00:51:03
Mike
We've talked, like I mentioned previously, we talked about penalties. It's key to the game. The Bears struggle with it, as you can see from there. The tinfoil hat, I get it, but you have to think of it similar to how you think of an NBA player and getting to the foul line.
00:51:21
Mike
When you have a player that is consistently fouling people, you think somebody, ah ref is going to give them a pass when they see him reach in and maybe he doesn't hit it, but he's consistently fouling? you're going to make the assumption that they're probably going to commit that penalty.
00:51:39
Mike
The one annoying thing that we saw this week, I think multiple times, but it was definitely called once. was a false start penalty where the entire Baltimore defense got up and pointed to a guy.
00:51:54
Mike
And when they replayed it, the guy didn't even fucking move. Now, I'll give the refs credit because they did it again on the goal line and they didn't call anything. But when you're consistently having these penalties and being flagged multiple times, the league's going to take note.
00:52:10
Mike
The refs are going to know that this team is penalty-oriented, and they're going to start to call ticky-tacky shit. It's just part of the game. It sucks. But we got to clean it up.
00:52:22
Mike
And if we don't clean it up, we could be in for more pain in subsequent weeks because penalties kill drives. They do.
00:52:31
Trio of Positivity
I was hoping to have more on the conspiracy side and only go from there, but I feel like penalties, Miller kind of hit it right on the head.
00:52:43
Trio of Positivity
The one thing is that I finally see a stat where it's like brought up to you where it's like 64 times for 533 it's like,
00:52:51
Mike
It's a lot.
00:52:51
Trio of Positivity
That's yeah. And to say that there's a one team at least ahead of us, I guess that's good, but I don't know. It's kind of like seeing this.
00:52:59
Mike
Jags.
00:53:00
Trio of Positivity
It's kind of like seeing the sack numbers. Remember we were talking about like, we were seeing Caleb get sacked so many times and it was like, Oh, come on. And then I saw that.
00:53:07
Mike
Oh, I thought you were talking about earlier this year when we were looking at the sack numbers and I think we had less sacks than the Broncos had in one game.
00:53:12
Trio of Positivity
Oh, that too. Yep. That too. We were looking at that. And then ah we were looking at Caleb and we were like, oh, his sack numbers are going down, even though he had a fucking higher number to start with. But like, you know, we're seeing these things, but I never thought that penalties would actually be something where.
00:53:29
Trio of Positivity
I think.
00:53:32
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, I think some refs call some certain certain games, then.
00:53:32
Mike
but
00:53:37
Trio of Positivity
I feel like the whole pointing things out to like a player, to a ref, that's got to be a penalty in itself.
00:53:38
Mike
but
00:53:43
Trio of Positivity
I hate that. I hate that you can literally just stand up and point, which could cause the flinch instead of someone flinching beforehand. But that's...
00:53:51
Mike
yeah The problem is the defense can do whatever they want. But do do you have any suggestions on how we can fix the penalties?
00:53:53
Trio of Positivity
Yep. Yep.
00:53:57
Mike
Specifically offensive line penalties?
00:54:02
Trio of Positivity
I've thought about this. Do you think the play clock has something to do with it where maybe they're getting up to the line?
00:54:06
Mike
no
00:54:07
Trio of Positivity
No, right? Honestly, just keep giving them drills or just bench everyone for a whole like.
00:54:11
Mike
So one thing that I saw is because we've always heard the talk about how offensive line is a unit within a unit, right? So one thing that i heard that was an example that was pointed out that they could possibly do is do like a ah penalty jar.
00:54:19
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:54:28
Mike
Every time one of them commit a penalty, they throw $100 in the jar. At the end of the year, they go out to dinner, something like that to kind of add camaraderie.
00:54:33
Trio of Positivity
Wait a minute. So if they draw the penalty not the yards, if they draw it.
00:54:37
Bhupen
Yeah, if they had committed convent.
00:54:39
Mike
No, if they if they get penalized. Sorry.
00:54:41
Trio of Positivity
Okay, so right now the jar would be $6,400 basically.
00:54:41
Mike
If they draw a holding penalty. if Well, no, because it's just I'm just talking about offensive line. You can't you can't do that for everybody, right?
00:54:48
Trio of Positivity
Oh, okay. Sorry. Sorry.
00:54:50
Mike
I'm just talking about offensive line.
00:54:50
Trio of Positivity
You're absolutely right. in My bad.
00:54:51
Mike
I mean, it's not obviously all the offensive line's fault.
00:54:52
Bhupen
It's also not, it's not yards.
00:54:52
Trio of Positivity
My bad.
00:54:54
Bhupen
Yeah, it's also not yards.
00:54:55
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. Okay.
00:54:55
Bhupen
It's like if you get penalized, basically.
00:54:57
Mike
So it's just like, it's just one thing that may be the offensive line to be a cohesive unit.
00:54:58
Trio of Positivity
All right.
00:55:02
Mike
But obviously it's not only them. I mean, Colson Loveland had a false start. We had special teams, like three penalties on special teams.
00:55:06
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. Yep.
00:55:09
Mike
It's a collective and they need to fix it.
00:55:10
Bhupen
I mean, to be fair,
00:55:10
Trio of Positivity
It's a collective. And I think that's the concerning part is we're seeing it everywhere. And yeah, there are calls that we should have gotten. i i agree with that. I think the NFL should definitely look as to why they seem to miss every time we have those calls.
00:55:23
Trio of Positivity
But that one miss can't attribute to the four or five that our team does.
00:55:25
Bhupen
i I feel. If you look at every play, I feel like there's a flag you can throw after. But what I will say is that Miller made this point the entire offseason.
00:55:37
Bhupen
Like, our O-line was not finalized. It's still not finalized, right? Like, there's a revolving door at left tackle, and there's injuries and stuff like that.
00:55:44
Mike
No, it's finalized.
00:55:46
Bhupen
it's Again, if just...
00:55:47
Mike
You're holding hope that Braxton's going to come on this team, and he's not.
00:55:51
Bhupen
Well, i mean i was probably I was trying to give you kudos that like you made a point that offensive unit, if it's a unit within a unit, they have not been playing a lot of games together.
00:55:52
Mike
He got benched.
00:56:00
Bhupen
And it looks like Ben Johnson's system is fairly complicated. There's different assignments and stuff like that. So like, it's just been two games.
00:56:07
Trio of Positivity
But that still doesn't mean... you see we can't keep using that as an excuse. It's already seven games. Like...
00:56:13
Bhupen
No, that's what I'm saying. This unit, COA, it's been a lot.
00:56:16
Trio of Positivity
Oh, I understand. i just, I'm just saying like to say that because it's a difficult scheme, it's like, ah, come on. We, I feel like that's something just that just gets said. Like after a while, it's like you're a professional.
00:56:26
Trio of Positivity
Like I get the ones that are not true penalties. I understand that but we're going to get those calls, but the ones that hurt us on the drive that we need, those are the ones that pissed me off, which we've seen before. We saw it with Minnesota.
00:56:37
Bhupen
Thank you.
00:56:38
Trio of Positivity
ah i mean, there's other games where it's like, oh, we had that one drive and then the fucking hold killed us. It, It's those that pissed me off, but I'm looking at the time. This is the most we've actually but spoken in the generality of a team instead of looking at the at the game itself. So we're going to try to move past it a little bit. I think we had great discussions.
00:56:57
Trio of Positivity
So let's go into the positivity score. I'm going to start us off. I was seven last week. I am going to go at a five and a half, even though someone else also has this score. But I completely agree.
00:57:08
Mike
Five and a half?
00:57:09
Trio of Positivity
I completely agree with whoever else is also saying five and a half. Go ahead and continue it.
00:57:16
Mike
I'm at a six.
00:57:19
Bhupen
like
00:57:20
Mike
I drop a point. I'm concerned. I have my issues. The team's not correcting their mistakes.
00:57:26
Bhupen
Like, my point is, going back to we have 4-2, blah, blah, blah, like, still probably on track to win however many games we set 4-3.
00:57:33
Mike
Four and three, damn it.
00:57:35
Bhupen
Damn it, I'm sorry. 4-2 is stuck in my head. But 4-3, like, we know we have a couple of winnable games coming up. We're probably on track to win, like, however many games we set at the beginning of the year. Yes, it looks so bad when we lose, especially when we lose like this. But, guys, it's not.
00:57:51
Bhupen
and Like I said last week, try not to get that high and try not to get that low. We're still on the trajectory we set for the team at the beginning of the year. It's all about expectations.
00:58:00
Trio of Positivity
We'll see. We saw what happened last time we started a ah loss after we're getting a loss after being on a win streak.
00:58:06
Bhupen
Oh, my.
00:58:06
Trio of Positivity
So I don't want that to repeat.
00:58:07
Bhupen
Why would you break that up?
00:58:07
Mike
Calm down.
00:58:08
Bhupen
Why would you fucking break that up?
00:58:10
Trio of Positivity
Because that's what happened last season.
00:58:11
Mike
Calm fucking down.
00:58:12
Trio of Positivity
All right, boys, let's move on to the next game. We are playing the Cincinnati Bengals at Paycore Stadium.
00:58:18
Bhupen
Woo!
00:58:19
Bhupen
Get the right game.
00:58:19
Trio of Positivity
Yes, I had to look up the name because I did not realize it was called Paycore.
00:58:24
Trio of Positivity
It is a noon pick ah ah noon kickoff game. Right now, the Chicago Bears... I'm sorry, not right now. But as of yesterday, the Chicago Bears were minus 2.5 with the over-under being 51.5.
Preview: Bears vs. Bengals Game
00:58:37
Trio of Positivity
What do the Bears need to do to win this game? I'm going to start it off because I don't want people to say that I don't start it off. We have to run the ball. Run, run, run. I don't care how many times we need to have 30 attempts.
00:58:51
Trio of Positivity
I don't fucking care. Run the ball. It seems.
00:58:52
Bhupen
but But Chris, what if Caleb doesn't throw for 200 yards and we win?
00:58:58
Trio of Positivity
Then it proves the point that we don't fucking need him to throw the yard so that we get the touchdown.
00:58:58
Mike
What if our
00:59:01
Mike
what if our running backs score four touchdowns and Caleb gets zero touchdowns?
00:59:06
Trio of Positivity
They.
00:59:06
Bhupen
What then, Chris?
00:59:08
Mike
What are we going to do?
00:59:09
Trio of Positivity
We might as well get him out. Might as well. But ah are you not going to agree with me or not? I feel like the previous game, we didn't have a good running presence. And if we have a running presence, we seem to be a little bit better.
00:59:21
Trio of Positivity
Run the ball. That's the only thing I can say.
00:59:24
Bhupen
we all over the place
00:59:25
Bhupen
Dude you criticized him two weeks ago when he did throw a touchdown on me fucking once.
00:59:26
Trio of Positivity
How is that all over the place?
00:59:26
Trio of Positivity
I mean, it might did I say something wrong?
00:59:33
Trio of Positivity
boobin you know what i said two weeks ago too i said holy shit you guys hated so much on swift and swift was performing well and the moment that i said that he was performing well hold on but here's what i said hold on but here's what i said i said this is what happens when ah swift is playing well caleb seems to perform a little bit better that's what i said when the running game seems to be going well
00:59:35
Bhupen
What?
00:59:41
Bhupen
Don't say that to Mr. Swift or Mr. Swift. Mr. Swift right here.
00:59:46
Mike
we keep going.
00:59:58
Trio of Positivity
Caleb seems to have the play action and and and great things. So I would like to see that with Caleb. I don't want Caleb to fail. I've already seen other quarterbacks fail for me already.
01:00:06
Mike
yeah yeah
01:00:09
Trio of Positivity
So what more do I need?
01:00:10
Bhupen
Okay, Miller, Miller go.
01:00:11
Trio of Positivity
I don't need another failed trophy of, of, of quarterbacks.
01:00:11
Mike
Okay. Okay. Okay.
01:00:12
Bhupen
Go Miller.
01:00:13
Mike
Yeah, you're you just you're just spewing lies now. Just spewing lies.
01:00:15
Bhupen
governor
01:00:17
Mike
um What we need, we need offense, offense, offense.
01:00:20
Trio of Positivity
Hey, is running the ball offense too?
01:00:20
Mike
I'll get into it. Yes. i guess
01:00:22
Trio of Positivity
Oh, interesting. and
01:00:24
Mike
I didn't say i was you were wrong.
01:00:25
Trio of Positivity
Oh,
01:00:25
Mike
I just said you're spewing lies at this point for what not wanting Caleb to fail.
01:00:32
Mike
um We need a lot of offense because I'll get into it in a little bit. But, yeah, we need offense. A lot of offense.
01:00:40
Bhupen
I like play clean football, you know, like like Mr.
01:00:44
Mike
you
01:00:48
Bhupen
Flacco has been very good. I think we'll talk about it in a minute. Like he's not turned the ball over. we need to be very opportunistic when we can. Whenever we win the turnover battle, like we said, it's worked out well for us.
01:01:01
Bhupen
Biggest thing I want to see this game is we don't kick as many field goals. We hopefully finish strides with six.
01:01:08
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but if we don't kick field goals, Boopin, we're going to lose our drive to points percentage. So we got to do something since since we don't have Caleb taking us down the field all the way for a touchdown.
01:01:14
Mike
Not if we make him touchdowns.
01:01:18
Bhupen
Well, if we score six, the problem solved.
01:01:20
Mike
You have no idea how that stat works.
01:01:20
Bhupen
So.
01:01:22
Mike
Just move on to the Flacco talk.
01:01:24
Trio of Positivity
Speaking of stats, since the trade, Joe Flacco has been nuts. He's got seven touchdowns with zero interceptions.
01:01:30
Bhupen
Why?
01:01:33
Trio of Positivity
Was it a mistake for him to go to the Browns? Is he the real deal in the Bengals?
01:01:41
Bhupen
We go to the brown to the beginning of the year.
01:01:42
Mike
No, he's not the real deal.
01:01:44
Trio of Positivity
Really?
01:01:46
Mike
He is a quarterback that can work with any system, and what he does is what you need to do, which is get the ball to your playmaker's hands. Jamar Chase is on pace over these last three games with Joe Flacco for...
01:02:00
Bhupen
Hey, that's my stand.
01:02:03
Mike
Sorry.
01:02:06
Mike
For over 300 targets the year. targets on the year Realistically, you look at what Jamar Chase did last game. He had 12 catches for 90 yards. That's less than 10 yards a catch.
01:02:19
Mike
He's not throwing it far. He's getting the ball into his playmakers' hands, and the playmakers are making plays. That's what he needs to do That's what he's doing. He's not making mistakes. It's the game manager. That's what his role is, and he's doing it really well because we all knew coming the season...
01:02:35
Mike
If the Cincinnati Bengals had a really good offense and he's showing that they can get dead, get to that level um similar to with, if they had Joe Burrow.
01:02:47
Bhupen
Yeah. Flacco admitted himself, too. He said ah he didn't even know what the play calls were. he was just going to throw it to Jamar Chase. To hyper-focus on Miller's point here, Jamar Chase has 54 targets in the last three weeks, which is a record.
01:02:47
Mike
Sorry.
Quarterback Roles: Game Managers vs. Stars
01:03:05
Bhupen
Like... You know? So, like, he's doing the simple things. He's like, Jamar Chase, are single covered? Here's the ball. If he's double covered, find someone else. And he's got other people involved. I have Chase.
01:03:16
Bhupen
I have Higgins in one of my fantasy teams. And, you know, he's not doing amazing things like Chase's, but he's been serviceable, too. So he's, like, figuring out who his playmakers is getting the ball to them. Fairly simple, basic plan.
01:03:30
Bhupen
Their O-line was horrendous, if you guys remember, when Joe Burrow was there, too. That has not gotten better. So he's, like... He's figuring out where his strengths are and working with them. It's a pretty basic plan.
01:03:41
Bhupen
And they've been running the ball like fucking crazy too. like they've They've been much more efficient doing that since Fafo got there.
01:03:46
Trio of Positivity
Jesus, so it's almost like running the ball can help an offensive. Crazy. um Boys, i do have this one question. um What would you define Joe Flacco? Miller kind of said it he's like a game manager, which I think some teams need sometimes, right? I think Dak Prescott is also somewhat of a game manager.
01:04:07
Trio of Positivity
Would you guys agree?
01:04:07
Mike
No. No.
01:04:08
Trio of Positivity
Really? What do you consider Dak Prescott?
01:04:11
Bhupen
I mean, Chris, we have really short memories.
01:04:12
Mike
The star quarterback.
01:04:13
Bhupen
Hang on. Hang on. Remember at the end of last year, Joe Flacco won people of fantasy football leagues.
01:04:19
Trio of Positivity
No, no, no, you're right, right.
01:04:19
Bhupen
Because.
01:04:20
Mike
Two years ago. Two years ago.
01:04:21
Bhupen
Two years ago.
01:04:21
Trio of Positivity
But, Boobin, my question is, is if Flacco's labeled as a game manager, what is...
01:04:24
Bhupen
Mm
01:04:27
Mike
think it was last year.
01:04:29
Trio of Positivity
what is ah Miller says Dak is a star quarterback. Okay. Joe Burrow, I think we agree, is a star quarterback, yes?
01:04:37
Bhupen
hmm.
01:04:37
Mike
Yeah.
01:04:38
Trio of Positivity
Where does Caleb fit?
01:04:41
Bhupen
He's on his way.
01:04:42
Mike
As a young rookie quarterback, don't know.
01:04:43
Trio of Positivity
He's... So...
01:04:44
Mike
What are your categories?
01:04:45
Bhupen
He's on his way too.
01:04:46
Trio of Positivity
That's what, well, see, that's a what i was so I was hoping to hear different categories to kind of see where he would be placed. Because even like Jaden Daniels, ah May, all these quarterbacks, like, I feel like they're kind of elevating themselves. I don't think May is a, actually, you could say May and maybe Bo Nix are game managers. Yeah.
01:05:04
Mike
No, you're so wrong.
01:05:05
Trio of Positivity
Really? why
01:05:06
Mike
Jesus Christ. First of all, if we're going to talk tears, I would put Jaden and Caleb in very similar tears. Bo Nix and Drake May are probably above them, but don't fucking know, dude.
01:05:15
Trio of Positivity
But what are they then?
01:05:16
Bhupen
I don't know about Nick's. Let's hear Nick's. Um.
01:05:19
Mike
Good. You want to say great quarterbacks? Fine. Great quarterback. You want to do good, great, all-star superstars? Fine.
01:05:26
Trio of Positivity
No, I was trying.
01:05:26
Mike
I don't know. You can't ask these stupid questions when I want to get to the fucking trade deadline.
01:05:27
Trio of Positivity
I was. It's not a stupid question. It's not a stupid question. If we're saying Flacco is a game manager and he's seven and oh, when it comes to touchdowns and interceptions, I'm trying to see what other labels are out there for quarterbacks. It's a very simple question.
01:05:43
Trio of Positivity
You're the one that said star quarterback, which is a dumb answer.
01:05:46
Mike
Why is it dumb?
01:05:46
Trio of Positivity
Because I...
01:05:47
Mike
You go look at Dak Prescott's stats.
01:05:47
Trio of Positivity
Because Dak Prescott, if you...
01:05:49
Mike
He's fucking ridiculous.
01:05:50
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but every time Dak... Like, Dak has received criticism in the past, but, like, if you put Dak in any kind of system, I feel like he seems to work well within...
01:05:58
Bhupen
No, Dak, when he's healthy, is MVP candidate every year.
01:05:59
Trio of Positivity
Ooh.
01:06:02
Bhupen
Like, Yuki. I don't think you can call him a game manager. Like, he's but he's been hurt. that You can be criticized for that, but he's, like, fucking superstar. I'm with Miller.
01:06:12
Trio of Positivity
I don't know. i felt like Game Manager is like such a... Like, it's sometimes it gets said in such a negative way, but it's like they're winning.
01:06:16
Bhupen
Like, like, like, Purdy. Purdy is probably a game manager. Like, Purdy is probably a game manager. Would you agree, Miller?
01:06:21
Mike
I agree with that.
01:06:22
Bhupen
Yeah.
01:06:22
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
01:06:23
Mike
A game manager is a guy that isn't, he relies more on his playmakers to make plays than him making plays.
01:06:30
Bhupen
Right.
01:06:31
Mike
Not saying that he can't, but Purdy relies more on Ayuk to make plays, Jennings to make plays, Kittle to make plays, and CMC to make plays more than he's going to be making plays.
01:06:43
Bhupen
I think I got it.
01:06:43
Trio of Positivity
Maybe I haven't seen enough, but I feel like the games that I've seen with like Drake May and Bo Nix, Bo Nix in particular, because Denver looks pretty good.
01:06:44
Bhupen
I know.
01:06:49
Bhupen
No, bit it like, they Chris, I think I got your answer.
01:06:51
Mike
Drake may is setting records upon records right now.
01:06:52
Bhupen
I got your answer. if you If you think the the quarterback can be successful beyond the system, like the system is not creating its success, then that's a game manager.
01:07:05
Bhupen
Like, if he can function beyond the system, like, I think, break may i say I'm sorry, Brock Purdy, if you put him beyond, like, Sanahan's system, I don't think he'll be the same quarterback is probably what I'm trying to say.
01:07:06
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, I can agree with that definition. Yeah, yeah.
01:07:19
Trio of Positivity
Okay, um moving on then. What do the Bengals have to do to win this game?
01:07:27
Bhupen
I mean, take an advantage yeah take advantage of our injured de defeat defense.
01:07:28
Mike
Throw the ball to their wide receivers.
01:07:31
Mike
We have.
01:07:31
Trio of Positivity
God, it's so basic.
01:07:32
Bhupen
Like, we don't have quarterbacks anymore.
01:07:35
Mike
We do not have any cornerbacks. Chase, there is. Odds on gamble responsibly.
01:07:44
Trio of Positivity
There you go. See, I told you we got start using it.
01:07:46
Mike
Chase may go for 300 yards and four touchdowns this week.
01:07:46
Trio of Positivity
See?
01:07:51
Bhupen
Okay, he won't.
01:07:51
Mike
There is a chance at that.
01:07:53
Bhupen
No, no, his targets, if there's a bet for his targets, bet the over, is what I would say, whatever the target is.
01:07:59
Mike
It's going to be insane what this offense going to put up. I mean, we don't have cornerbacks when you're talking about the best.
01:08:07
Bhupen
Bet the over, bet the over.
01:08:09
Mike
The best wide recevo wide receiver duo in the league in Chase and Higgins.
01:08:10
Trio of Positivity
Bet responsibly. Good lord.
01:08:16
Mike
So all Flacco's going to have to do is throw them the ball and run the ball. We can't stop a damn thing on offense.
Bears' Future Game Predictions and Strategies
01:08:23
Mike
We just gave up 30 points to fucking Tyler Huntley and that pathetic offense.
01:08:29
Mike
Points are going to get scored in this game. So unless Caleb can pick up his end things, it could be rough for the Bears.
01:08:38
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, I agree. i think injuries as a whole has just affected more teams than I think um'm I've noticed in the past. um I agree with both points. I do want to point out, I was just looking at some stats here. Drake May is, I was wrong about Drake May because he's producing all of these numbers, has a QB rating of 118. Do you know how many times the man has been sacked?
01:08:59
Mike
A lot, isn't it a lot?
01:09:01
Trio of Positivity
28 he's second in the league in sacks with cam ward at 34 so you're right i i don't know where to label him i guess you could say he's yeah breaking records and all of that he's 15 and 3 um and then i was looking to see who else did i mention um bo nicks where yeah i was just looking to see where he's at at sacks he's only been sacked eight times
01:09:03
Mike
Yeah.
01:09:16
Bhupen
Well, next.
01:09:17
Mike
Bo Nix. I mean, Bo Nix played really good the last two games. You're taking away from my time. the fuck cares? You're taking away from my time. move on.
01:09:29
Trio of Positivity
what you mean from your time
01:09:30
Mike
I want to talk about trade deadline.
01:09:32
Trio of Positivity
Oh, well all right, boys. What do you guys predict for this game? right As of right now, we're all tied. had I not changed that the bears would, would lose instead of a win. I would be ahead.
01:09:43
Trio of Positivity
We're all five and two. What do we have for this?
01:09:45
Mike
Props to Boopin for his pick since you don't give props to people other than yourself. 31 to 17, almost an exact score. Good job.
01:09:55
Bhupen
it Say something, damn it.
01:09:58
Trio of Positivity
Good job.
01:09:59
Bhupen
Thank you.
01:10:00
Trio of Positivity
I'm still pissed because it still would have won if I kept my loss, but whatever.
01:10:04
Bhupen
If pigs could fly, Chris, if pigs could fly.
01:10:07
Trio of Positivity
Some do, apparently, if you toss them out of a bathwater. But yeah, go ahead.
01:10:10
Mike
Babies, not pigs. Boopin, lead us off.
01:10:14
Trio of Positivity
Oh, before you leave us off, we all previously predicted that we would lose.
01:10:14
Bhupen
Oh, baby.
01:10:17
Trio of Positivity
They would lose this game. Sorry, go ahead
01:10:19
Bhupen
No, I mean, that that was with frickin' Joe Burrows.
01:10:23
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, that was what. Yeah.
01:10:25
Bhupen
oh Like, like with Jets, who are winless, like, put frickin' 38 points on them. So I'm hoping we get the ship right. It'll be probably a close-scoring game, because I don't think we have, our defense is much better than them right now. But I say it's close. Flacco keeps them close, but we win 31-27.
01:10:45
Trio of Positivity
Jesus, I don't know where you think we're getting 31 points. I think we lose this game. i feel like the Bears, every time we have to win a game, we always just seem to not. And ah and it's an away game.
01:10:57
Trio of Positivity
So I'm saying it's a loss. I'm going to say it is 1428. We
01:11:05
Trio of Positivity
we are not going to get a turnover.
01:11:05
Mike
I swear to God, if we score 14 points in this game, I may not be on the podcast next week.
01:11:08
Bhupen
Dude, Chris, ah we we've been averaging 24 points this game against better defenses.
01:11:12
Mike
I'm going to be honest this with you.
01:11:17
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but that only seems to happen when we get turnovers pooping.
01:11:19
Mike
Boopin, Boopin, you can't talk logic to him because he thinks every turnover that we get, we get on the opponent's 10-yard line.
01:11:26
Trio of Positivity
Yep.
01:11:26
Mike
That's how it works. We don't ever move the ball down the field. The only thing is we get it on the 10-yard line, and that's how we score.
01:11:29
Trio of Positivity
We do not.
01:11:32
Bhupen
right, Chris.
01:11:32
Mike
No, I don't think...
01:11:32
Bhupen
All right, Miller. This time we take the lead. Come on.
01:11:35
Mike
I'm not with you, buddy.
01:11:36
Bhupen
oh
01:11:36
Mike
Sorry.
01:11:36
Bhupen
Oh!
01:11:37
Mike
i I think we're going to lose, and I think we're going to lose thirty one twenty seven i think i think it's going to be pretty much, I think that's a good score. I think both teams are going to score a shit ton of points.
01:11:48
Mike
I think the Bengals are going to score more because I think our defense is trash.
01:11:51
Bhupen
Boys, I'm to take the lead.
01:11:52
Trio of Positivity
What's funny is,
01:11:53
Bhupen
I'm going to take the lead, and I'm happy about it.
01:11:55
Trio of Positivity
can I just say every time anyone has predicted that we're going to score points, score points, score points, the absolute opposite has happened. So.
01:12:01
Bhupen
Well, you have not, so, yeah.
01:12:02
Mike
That's not true because every time we've said that we've scored points that we've scored points because as Boop had just pointed out, we've averaging 24 points. Okay.
01:12:10
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but every time we say we're going to score points, score points, we just don't. We lose.
01:12:14
Mike
No, we literally sat here, right here, and we said the dallas against the Dallas Cowboys that we were going to score points, and we put up 31.
01:12:14
Bhupen
What...
01:12:14
Trio of Positivity
So.
01:12:22
Mike
So you're wrong.
01:12:23
Trio of Positivity
I mean...
01:12:24
Mike
Beckles are one of the worst defenses in the league. If Caleb Williams does not have a bounce back this week, if we do not score 14 points, i don't I will not be here next week.
01:12:28
Bhupen
Dude, bet thee over. Bet thee over. That's what
01:12:35
Mike
I'm going to make that statement.
01:12:35
Trio of Positivity
Why? Because then you would have to say that I was right.
01:12:36
Mike
If we score 14 points, I will not be here next
Fantasy Football Tips and Trade Deadline Speculations
01:12:40
Mike
week.
01:12:41
Trio of Positivity
i guess I would be...
01:12:41
Mike
Or I'll do the show solo. Is that better? I'll do do the show solo.
01:12:45
Trio of Positivity
Why? Because... So you won't be here, but you're going to do the show solo?
01:12:46
Mike
Is that punishment?
01:12:48
Trio of Positivity
That sounds so backwards. All right.
01:12:49
Mike
I can do it as a punishment.
01:12:51
Trio of Positivity
and Also, this is a punishment for you. Good Lord.
01:12:53
Bhupen
was saying.
01:12:53
Trio of Positivity
You don't want to hang out with your friends.
01:12:54
Mike
I said solo. Solo would be a punishment.
01:12:56
Trio of Positivity
All right, boys. We're almost an hour and 15 into this.
01:12:58
Mike
Can we just skip fantasy? i I'm going to take fantasy. um
01:13:02
Trio of Positivity
Well, let me at least introduce you to it.
01:13:02
Mike
Big injuries.
01:13:04
Trio of Positivity
Jesus fucking Christ.
01:13:07
Bhupen
Fantasy done.
01:13:07
Trio of Positivity
We're going to jump into our fantasy recap.
01:13:08
Bhupen
Let's go.
01:13:10
Trio of Positivity
So as you guys know, I haven't started.
01:13:11
Mike
Okay. Big injuries.
01:13:13
Trio of Positivity
I haven't transitioned to you, bitch. You wait now. You wait. For those of you that are aware, we're currently in our eighth week for fantasy.
01:13:23
Mike
ah Shut up.
01:13:23
Trio of Positivity
I hope you guys...
01:13:24
Mike
So big injuries are Cam Scadabo out for the year.
01:13:24
Trio of Positivity
ah
01:13:27
Mike
Keyshawn, Quinchan Jenkins, he took his shoulder. Barkley hamstring on by shouldn't be an issue. Hopefully not. Isaiah Pacheco week to week. Michael Penick, Drake London last minute. Jaden Brock and JJ j McCarthy are expected to be back.
01:13:41
Mike
AJ Brown, Garrett Wilson, who the fuck knows. Deacon O'Collins tried to need to play. Waver pickup for this week. Aranda Gadsden from the Chargers tight end.
01:13:48
Trio of Positivity
No, don't listen to Miller with tight end pickups.
01:13:49
Mike
Look him up if you haven't got him.
01:13:51
Trio of Positivity
He already failed me, so no. time I'm removing that.
01:13:52
Bhupen
Whoa!
01:13:53
Mike
um If you would have kept with Mason Taylor, he got you at least 10 points this game, so go fuck yourself.
01:13:53
Bhupen
Whoa!
01:13:59
Bhupen
How come I don't get consulted on this?
01:13:59
Mike
um
01:14:01
Trio of Positivity
That's what I'm saying.
01:14:02
Mike
Tyrone Tracy, Rashard Smith, if you need a QB, Sam Darnold, Aaron Rodgers.
01:14:02
Trio of Positivity
but He gives zero fucks about us.
01:14:08
Mike
I don't know about Aaron Rodgers, but Trevor Lawrence, all good plays. Several hot and cold wide receivers in Troy Franklin, Kayshaun Booty, and Alec Pierce. Okay, now to the good stuff.
01:14:18
Trio of Positivity
Now, hold on. No, no, no, no, no. Stop booping. Is there anything you want to add to that? Because this fucker apparently thinks it's his show.
01:14:26
Bhupen
I covered most of it. um ah Loveland is also a decent pickup if you're pretty desperate. I did. Oh. and need need
01:14:33
Trio of Positivity
When am I going to get love for my Patriots pick?
01:14:33
Bhupen
probably yeah
01:14:36
Trio of Positivity
Jesus fucking Christ.
01:14:36
Bhupen
no a heck over a pickcky they've been carrying my table last couple great great picture
01:14:40
Mike
No, Boopin, Boopin.
01:14:42
Bhupen
you know'll give
01:14:43
Mike
Did you play them?
01:14:44
Bhupen
i did
01:14:45
Trio of Positivity
I played them too.
01:14:45
Mike
No, I wasn't talking to you.
01:14:46
Bhupen
oh
01:14:47
Trio of Positivity
I played them.
01:14:47
Mike
was talking to Chris because he touched them the other week.
01:14:47
Trio of Positivity
I played, played the Patriots. I bet you, bro. I fucking bet you. I was so pissed. And Miller was like, Oh, that was a good.
01:14:53
Bhupen
would you Would you play him this week?
01:14:55
Trio of Positivity
No.
01:14:55
Bhupen
Would you play him this week?
01:14:55
Trio of Positivity
Miller tells me according to the stats, that's a good play. Putting the Steelers. They got me minus eight.
01:15:01
Mike
It was the Steelers against like the fucking...
01:15:01
Bhupen
but Dude, that that was... yeah No one could see that coming. Sorry.
01:15:06
Mike
It was... Was it the Jets or something? though I don't know who was.
01:15:07
Bhupen
No, it was Flacco.
01:15:07
Trio of Positivity
I forgot who it was.
01:15:09
Bhupen
was Joe Flacco.
01:15:11
Mike
Yeah, it was the Browns.
01:15:11
Trio of Positivity
I forgot who it was, but ever since then, I'm like, fuck it.
01:15:13
Bhupen
It Bengals.
01:15:13
Mike
Or the Bengals.
01:15:14
Trio of Positivity
I'm writing i'm writing the fucking Patriots hard.
01:15:16
Bhupen
Wait, would you play him this week against Atlanta?
01:15:19
Trio of Positivity
Yes.
01:15:19
Bhupen
Okay.
01:15:20
Mike
They're at home.
01:15:20
Trio of Positivity
Because we're ah the Steelers are fucking playing the Colts.
01:15:20
Bhupen
It
01:15:23
Trio of Positivity
I'm not going to do that.
01:15:23
Mike
I mean, first of all, you should drop the Steelers defense and get a new person.
01:15:26
Bhupen
You should.
01:15:26
Trio of Positivity
I get a new tight end.
01:15:28
Bhupen
They just trained...
01:15:28
Mike
steelers you Or Lade Godson or Colson Loveland. Let's ride the Loveland train, Chris.
01:15:34
Mike
Just ride it.
01:15:34
Trio of Positivity
Let's try.
01:15:34
Bhupen
Yeah.
01:15:35
Mike
Just ride it.
01:15:35
Trio of Positivity
I need to ride something.
01:15:36
Bhupen
Just try it.
01:15:36
Trio of Positivity
All right, Miller.
01:15:37
Bhupen
Just...
01:15:37
Trio of Positivity
It is trade deadline for not for the NFL, but for fucking fantasy.
01:15:42
Mike
will be for no it will be for the nfl next week next tuesday no it's and they did it's next tuesday which is the reason that i wanted to bring this up um
01:15:43
Bhupen
No, no. It'll wait for them.
01:15:44
Trio of Positivity
Wait, I thought they changed it. Did they not change it?
01:15:49
Trio of Positivity
Fuck. Why did I think? i I apologize. I only thought I thought it was for fantasy because of how they did the schedules of the weeks and stuff. So, yeah.
01:15:58
Mike
i think it might be fantasy too but um it'll be the full net weeks do you
01:15:58
Trio of Positivity
Okay. My bad. Okay.
01:16:00
Bhupen
should Should we name a player that we think would be traded by the deadline?
01:16:04
Trio of Positivity
I don't know, miller but Miller pointed this out, so let's see what he says.
01:16:05
Mike
No, just do we want the bear? What do we what? First of all, what do you want the bears to do? Do you want them to buy or sell? Or you want or do you think?
01:16:16
Mike
ah Yeah, let's just start there.
01:16:17
Trio of Positivity
You know what, boys? You know what? I want to hear you guys out because I have not thought about that at all. I'll be very honest with you, with the Bears being buyers or sellers. have not thought about it. So I'm intrigued to see what you guys might think.
01:16:29
Trio of Positivity
You guys might lean me one way or or another, but I'm intrigued now. That's a great question.
01:16:36
Bhupen
I mean, if we sell, we'll have to sell on offense because defense is already very depleted, right? And I don't want to see us being sellers on offense because that means this year is like basically... You know, our our ceiling is limited, that means. So I don't want to see them be sellers or sell from the offense.
01:16:55
Bhupen
I would love to see us be buyers and maybe at least try to get a couple of pieces, hopefully not that expensive pieces on the defensive end, like that's dreaming on my end.
01:17:06
Bhupen
Miller?
01:17:06
Mike
So he wants him to buy.
01:17:07
Mike
Got it. You want me to go?
01:17:10
Bhupen
Chris is still thinking.
01:17:10
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, go ahead.
01:17:11
Trio of Positivity
Cause that's a great question.
01:17:11
Mike
Okay, so I have come very conflicted things here.
01:17:14
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
01:17:15
Mike
I'm completely opposite of what Bupin said. I think we have several pieces that we can sell on the offensive side of the ball. um I think as much as I don't know if I would like it, and Luther Burden's injury or concussion is probably going to restrict this.
01:17:31
Mike
DJ Moore is probably our best asset. He hasn't really gelled in any offense under Caleb Williams for whatever reason. So he is probably going to be looking for a payday this offseason.
01:17:44
Mike
Flipping him isn't the worst thing in the world. Another asset that you don't see very often traded is tight ends. Cole Komet is a guy that we could possibly flip.
01:17:56
Mike
um He's got a pretty big contract. I don't know if anyone's going to want to take that for a tight end.
01:18:00
Bhupen
I mean, DJ Moore has a bigger cap hit, doesn't he?
01:18:00
Mike
don't know if it's going to happen. Yeah, but he's a wide receiver. People need him. Tight ends aren't as they' they're not. You don't see them getting flipped as often. and
01:18:10
Bhupen
DJ Moore is signed until 2029 with a 25 and a half million dollar cap hit every year.
01:18:10
Mike
Um,
01:18:16
Mike
That's signed through 2029. 2028 2027.
01:18:18
Bhupen
That's what fucking NFL is telling me. Let me see over the cap, just to be sure.
01:18:23
Trio of Positivity
I feel like he's saying NFL, but he's just saying it's AI.
01:18:23
Bhupen
This is...
01:18:25
Trio of Positivity
So now he's double checking the AI.
01:18:25
Bhupen
No, it's AI. No, it's AI.
01:18:31
Trio of Positivity
Okay. So he, yeah.
01:18:32
Mike
point twenty eight but twenty twenty seven
01:18:33
Trio of Positivity
So no, he's saying 20, 28, 20, 29 season.
01:18:36
Bhupen
2028, 2028. With a capital.
01:18:39
Trio of Positivity
You have this thing where you don't count the last year of the fucking thing, which we've gone over before, but yeah, that's, that's fine.
01:18:45
Bhupen
Right.
01:18:45
Mike
No, I didn't think he was signed for three more years.
01:18:45
Bhupen
So.
01:18:47
Mike
I'm going to be honest.
01:18:47
Bhupen
And last year we gave him an extension, didn't we not?
01:18:50
Mike
I thought it was a three-year extension. maybe has Maybe this year, whatever.
01:18:52
Bhupen
Yeah.
01:18:53
Trio of Positivity
Maybe added three years to the to the contract.
01:18:54
Mike
But, I mean, I still think DJ Moore could be expendable. I mean, we we got Luther Burden for a reason. We're not going to sit here and have Luther Burden be on the bench while DJ plays.
01:19:06
Mike
It's just not going to happen. You can't have three stud receivers. So might as well give Luther the shot. Cole Komet, as I mentioned, another wild card, Braxton Jones, man.
01:19:16
Mike
If he gets healthy, what the fuck else you going to do with him? You gave him a shot.
01:19:19
Bhupen
I think that that's the descimo that's um that's the most legit one we can trade on
01:19:21
Mike
He didn't fucking pan out. Why not try to flip an offensive lineman to a solid? I mean, you're not getting much for him. Probably just doing a flip, but whatever. flip but what
01:19:33
Bhupen
This is probably a stretch, but do you think DeAndre Swift gets traded? So Roshan and...
01:19:37
Mike
no Absolutely not. I think they're going to hold Pat.
01:19:38
Bhupen
No.
01:19:39
Mike
I really hope they hold Pat there. If they trade like a second round pick for Brees Hall or some of this shit.
01:19:47
Trio of Positivity
I feel like if you're getting...
01:19:48
Mike
I may be an Indy fan. I may just just fucking flip. Just go to Indy. Let's just be Indy fans because Brees Hall is a hell of a player. I'm not taking anything away from him. He's on a contract year. Y'all know how I feel about this shit.
01:20:01
Mike
Plus, I don't know that Brees Hall is giving that much more than DeAndre Swift. With Kyle Manungai. Like, just ride it out. If you really want a new guy, wait until the offseason. Don't flip a second rounder for him. If you're talking like a fifth, fine, we can have a conversation.
01:20:18
Mike
But realistically, you're going to have to pay him. His contract expiring. I don't want us to get a running back. I do agree with Bupin. If we were to get like a corner, a defensive player of some sort, like a cornerback or a defensive end, I would be okay with it as long as we don't give up a fucking second round pick.
01:20:29
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
01:20:33
Bhupen
Like, Rams got a quarterback, like, a second-round pick for the sixth round today. um I think Ravens did, too, from, like, the Patriots. So there's definitely, like, deals to be made out there.
01:20:46
Trio of Positivity
So I've heard you guys both.
01:20:46
Bhupen
think 49ers did. Sorry, go ahead.
01:20:49
Trio of Positivity
um I don't want to get too much into it, but I do then have to pose this question. The next five games that the Chicago Bears are playing, it's Bengals, Giants, Vikings, Steelers, Eagles.
01:21:00
Trio of Positivity
Of those five games, how many are wins in your opinion?
01:21:06
Trio of Positivity
Two.
01:21:07
Mike
I'm going to say two, but I think four of the five are winnable.
01:21:12
Trio of Positivity
Four of the five are winnable.
01:21:12
Mike
No, and i don't want I don't like winnable.
01:21:12
Trio of Positivity
I agree. So...
01:21:14
Mike
I don't want but like i hate when fucking Brian says that shit. Four or five, we will be in contention.
01:21:20
Trio of Positivity
Okay, so given that we both, everyone is saying two, I'm leaning towards three. I did say at one point the bears had a chance of being seven and what did say? Like eight and two or something like that. That's not happening now.
01:21:31
Mike
No, you did not say eight and two.
01:21:32
Trio of Positivity
Or did I say ah
01:21:34
Mike
You are very much, we lose a lot of the games at the beginning and win a lot of the games at the end.
01:21:38
Trio of Positivity
No, no, no, no. Like when we talked about the next five games, like when they were on the win streak, I'm sorry.
01:21:41
Mike
Oh. Then you might have said.
01:21:43
Trio of Positivity
i Yeah. um Here's the thing. is that Is that enough to be labeled as sellers? And that that essentially means we're not in contention for the division, not in contention for the wild card.
01:21:50
Bhupen
Thank you.
01:21:56
Trio of Positivity
I don't know if we really have value because if you start looking at what we could get back for certain players, it's going to go into the draft that – People are saying that we just don't draft well. So I don't know. Unless we can get something where it gets us in contention for the division, I would say, yes, we should be buyers.
01:22:14
Trio of Positivity
But I think given that we think we're only going to get two wins out of this in the next five, we're not there. So we might as well save some some capital or we say whatever you want to say about saving. i don't I'm not even sure it would be capital at this point.
01:22:28
Mike
I just hope we don't go overboard and buy some fucking position player that we're not going to need long term.
01:22:33
Trio of Positivity
Not only that, but a position player that we might not even be winning with.
01:22:33
Mike
you get do You do it with a defensive end or a left tackle. if you The only two acceptable positions to drop a big pick on would be defensive end and left tackle. Left tackle isn't happening.
01:22:45
Mike
Defensive end. We drop a big one on the running back. Fuck this.
01:22:48
Trio of Positivity
The only honest thing that I can see happening, it would be like the Bears doing a package deal where you include more commit and maybe a fourth rounder for a position player that might be helpful.
01:22:48
Mike
Fuck it.
01:22:59
Trio of Positivity
I don't know which one it would be.
01:22:59
Mike
That's probably not going to happen.
01:23:00
Bhupen
It's not fancy. Those usually don't happen in the NFL.
01:23:02
Mike
Yeah, those don't happen.
01:23:03
Trio of Positivity
No, but I'm saying, like, would you really trade more for a fifth?
01:23:08
Bhupen
but you You may have to do like, you have do like, yeah.
01:23:08
Mike
Yes.
01:23:09
Trio of Positivity
You would, but...
01:23:10
Mike
Well, knowing his contract, probably not. I didn't realize we were going to have him for so long. But what like you drafted Luther Burden at the beginning of the second round. Like, what are you going to do with him?
01:23:20
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
01:23:20
Mike
Keep him behind Rome and DJ for the next three years? Just doesn't make sense. That's why I didn't think that the contract went to the 28th season. Even more reasons to hate fucking Ryan Poles.
01:23:31
Mike
It's stupid. It's blatantly dumb. You don't have three top receivers on a fucking NFL team. It doesn't happen. And then to add on to that, I'm done.
01:23:42
Mike
I'm done. Okay. I have one more thing to add when we're wrapping up this episode. Thank you. I'm going to shut up until...
01:23:47
Bhupen
Are we done? to Okay, trade deadline for the greater NFL. You guys have some names.
01:23:52
Mike
No, no, no, no care. Move on. This is... We're at an hour and 25 minutes. No one cares about that. The only thing I want to shout out...
01:24:00
Bhupen
i Chris, set up.
01:24:02
Mike
Shout out...
01:24:02
Bhupen
All
01:24:04
Mike
To our boy, because we're covering all the sports today, baby. We've hit the Bulls. We've hit the fucking MLB.
Closing Remarks and Future Positivity Hopes
01:24:12
Mike
Conor Bedard with the hat. Hat trick for Bedard, baby.
01:24:14
Bhupen
right, DJ.
01:24:16
Mike
Woo!
01:24:17
Trio of Positivity
Did they win? Yeah, they won Yeah,
01:24:19
Mike
Let's fucking go, Conor. Now we hit the NHL. End this shit.
01:24:25
Bhupen
Yeah, we're not an NFL podcast anymore, Chris.
01:24:28
Trio of Positivity
yeah that's what you guys wanted. That's why I find it so surprisingly weird.
01:24:31
Bhupen
Hey, how did I get pulled into anything?
01:24:32
Trio of Positivity
But I will say, i just love putting you next to Miller.
01:24:34
Bhupen
I haven't done shit today.
01:24:37
Trio of Positivity
But I will say, though, if we did it the old old way, this podcast would be two and a half hours.
01:24:39
Bhupen
You did it here. I think.
01:24:44
Trio of Positivity
There's no way that we would not touch... into this. Although I will say the the Ravens, we didn't really talk about the game itself. We just kind of talked about all the outside noise that was happening, which yeah, it's, some of it is warranted. Should we have done it?
01:24:59
Trio of Positivity
Probably not, but I felt that it was a fun, a fun topic to get into.
01:25:02
Mike
Okay, can we just talk about this offline instead of the podcast and just end the bucket joke?
01:25:05
Bhupen
Thank you. well
01:25:06
Trio of Positivity
I just like wasting your time. I'm waiting to see. I'm waiting to see when Miller is just going to blow up. Like it's happening, but it's not happening anytime soon. So with that, we're going to wrap it. Thank you guys so much for listening. Again, I was joined by Boopin Miller and I am Christian. Thank you but guys so much for listening. This is the true of positivity podcast. Maybe someday in the near future, we can have some positivity coming out of this podcast. It's probably not going to happen, but whatever.
01:25:30
Trio of Positivity
And on that note, have a good night.
01:25:34
Mike
Bye-bye.
01:25:35
Bhupen
Google.