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Season 3 - Episode 3 - Superbowl Bound??
11 Plays3 months ago
We cover the complete offensive domination of the Buffalo Bills and Calebs great day....1 drive. Also talk about the Colts and Browns QB situation.
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:08
Trio of Positivity
The best intro song has made a comeback.
00:00:08
Mike
Oh,
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Bhupen
Hello! Oh my god, people. Woo!
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Bhupen
Give it to me right here Give it to me right here.
00:00:22
Mike
okay.
00:00:22
Trio of Positivity
Oh, that felt good.
00:00:22
Mike
Calm down. Calm down.
00:00:24
Trio of Positivity
That felt so good.
00:00:25
Bhupen
Welcome, people.
00:00:25
Trio of Positivity
That felt right.
00:00:27
Bhupen
Welcome to the Trio of Positivity Podcast.
00:00:30
Mike
I missed the guitar.
00:00:31
Bhupen
I do. The guitar will come back in some of the thing, man.
00:00:35
Mike
Yeah!
00:00:35
Trio of Positivity
There you go. That's all you're getting. how do you stop it? There you go. Okay.
00:00:39
Bhupen
Maybe for the fantasy segment. People, welcome. You are with the trio of positivity. This is our podcast. Thank you for joining us today. Same old intro, same old voice, trying to bring some positivity into your life.
00:00:54
Bhupen
Man, that was so good, Chris. Good, good, good.
00:00:57
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
TikTok Profile Reinstatement
00:00:58
Bhupen
Good surprise.
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Trio of Positivity
I also have some other great news.
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Trio of Positivity
um But go do your social plug thingy. I don't want to disturb.
00:01:06
Bhupen
Okay. I'm your co-host, BooPen, joined, as always, by my boys, Chris and Miller.
00:01:08
Mike
yeah.
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Bhupen
Hey, what's up?
00:01:12
Trio of Positivity
Howdy. Howdy, howdy.
00:01:15
Bhupen
I don't know. I am jazz. This will be an amazing, amazing show, I know. um Quick social plug. We are under Facebook, under Trio Positivity Podcast. At Twitter, X, we are at Trio Positivity.
00:01:28
Bhupen
We have a YouTube channel, Trio Positivity Podcast. And we have a blog that we pay for that we should use. TikTok, I won't even say anything. Chris, what you got?
00:01:39
Trio of Positivity
ah Our TikTok profile is back.
00:01:42
Mike
Yeah.
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Trio of Positivity
I just happened to check and it is completely empty.
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Mike
Just
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Trio of Positivity
So we we have.
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Mike
so they finally finished the review. So China, it probably went all the way to the top.
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Trio of Positivity
i I think China said i think China said we're OK.
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Mike
Okay.
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Trio of Positivity
That's what it looks like.
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Mike
So it went all the way to the president, the dictator.
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Trio of Positivity
I don't know about i don't know about the president.
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Mike
we're Okay.
00:02:02
Bhupen
Seizing peak?
00:02:04
Trio of Positivity
Maybe.
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Mike
She's in E maybe,
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Bhupen
that right um But like I think what it was, was all this time, they like, what are these idiots doing? They were trying to figure it out, and they finally gave up. They were like, And they're swearing, and they're swearing.
00:02:14
Mike
Well, when you put, well, when you put your age is three years old, like red flags pop up.
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Trio of Positivity
I think they I think that's what it was. Yeah.
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Trio of Positivity
So.
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Bhupen
Oh, my God.
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Trio of Positivity
So I think there's a chance that we can possibly. Start using it.
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Mike
Yeah. We're still not, it's fine guys.
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Trio of Positivity
and It's not.
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Bhupen
Wow.
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Trio of Positivity
But listen, ah we've covered just about everything.
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Bhupen
Wow.
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Mike
We got it back.
00:02:36
Trio of Positivity
I think the only thing I have left on my end is the website. That's the only thing I have as far as items that are pending.
00:02:45
Bhupen
Okay, well, the music is back. TikTok is back.
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Trio of Positivity
Yep.
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Bhupen
likem I'm jazzed.
00:02:50
Mike
Maybe we'll get Spotify and Apple podcast back.
Preseason Reactions and Focus
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Bhupen
I know. Maybe we'll be on Spotify.
00:02:53
Trio of Positivity
Maybe.
00:02:55
Bhupen
What a day. I don't know. Christmas come early over here.
00:02:57
Mike
I don't know if I can handle that much.
00:02:59
Trio of Positivity
That's too much, right? It's like we're we're so used to shit not working and then when something works it's like we forget everything else.
00:03:00
Mike
Too much.
00:03:07
Bhupen
All right.
00:03:07
Mike
Just crazy.
00:03:08
Bhupen
Well, rolling that positivity into into the reactions here, boys. Week two preseasons in the books. um I don't know who to go with.
00:03:19
Bhupen
Chris, what was...
00:03:20
Trio of Positivity
Go with Miller first. Go Boop in second. I will go last.
00:03:24
Bhupen
no no, I will go last. Chris, you go second.
00:03:25
Trio of Positivity
No, um I'm going last.
00:03:26
Bhupen
Miller, you're out.
00:03:27
Trio of Positivity
I'm going last.
00:03:27
Mike
Chris, Chris, this isn't about the bears. This is overall reactions of the preseason. It doesn't matter if I go first.
00:03:35
Trio of Positivity
I'm still going to last.
00:03:37
Bhupen
Alright. Mine's bear related, but spoiler alert.
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Mike
Oh, um, don't mind my, um, sub pump in the back.
00:03:41
Bhupen
Miller, go ahead.
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Mike
It's, we've got a lot of rain over here. Um, the, um,
00:03:54
Bhupen
We can't hear it, so you're good.
00:03:56
Mike
The nervousness around the quote-unquote best offense in the league, the Cincinnati Bengals, after the offensive line looked awful last night. that was ah That was a takeaway that I had, obviously close to the heart with my fantasy team having Jamar Chase and getting those little bit of nerves going because we don't know if Joe Burrow is going to last very long, if at all.
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Mike
standing behind the offensive line.
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Bhupen
cool
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Mike
So it'll be interesting to see what happens in Cincinnati.
NFL Quarterback Situations Analysis
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Mike
Obviously they had their struggles last year with probably one of the most prolific, prolific offenses, but worst defenses in the league.
00:04:38
Mike
So we'll see what they get, what happens this year with them.
00:04:43
Bhupen
yeah like there's there's really cool clip online I think he like he took forever to throw the ball, which which we have very strong emotions on on this podcast. But there was a play where it was just him and like five.
00:04:56
Bhupen
Was it Washington they were playing? Who were they playing, Miller?
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Mike
Washington.
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Bhupen
Yeah, so five Washington defenders, just him. Like, his O-line is nowhere to be found. It's pretty crazy shot right there. But um sorry to bring it home. Mine's related to the Bears.
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Trio of Positivity
Fine, I'll go then.
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Bhupen
ah Okay, go ahead.
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Trio of Positivity
Jesus.
00:05:13
Bhupen
Okay.
00:05:14
Trio of Positivity
um Quarterbacks in what Miller's touching. um The Colts made a decision, which I think a lot of people were kind of somewhat surprised, not because of the choice that was made, but the fact that what's going to happen with their quote unquote star quarterback situation.
00:05:35
Trio of Positivity
Oh my God, I'm blinking on his name.
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Bhupen
and
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Mike
Anthony Richardson?
00:05:36
Bhupen
Anthony Richardson.
00:05:37
Trio of Positivity
Thank you. i don't know why I was blinking. um Same with criticism from the Jets. um Like the quarterback situation with the Jets seems to be a little bit questionable too.
00:05:48
Trio of Positivity
And then the giant. Yeah, you haven't. You don't follow the NFL like i do, my friend.
00:05:52
Mike
No, I don't follow Justin Fields like you do.
00:05:54
Trio of Positivity
Listen, I follow the top.
00:05:55
Mike
Okay, continue and then we can dive into these. Go ahead.
00:05:57
Trio of Positivity
i I follow the top tier quarterbacks in the league. OK, OK.
00:06:01
Mike
They're about to get benched apparently.
00:06:02
Trio of Positivity
um Well, the reason I'm bringing this up is because i think the Giants, too, um there's a team, like, there's teams that have to make decisions on the quarterback side, and the Colts are kind of, like, the first to kind of solidify what would be their starting, like, QB aspect.
00:06:10
Mike
Yeah.
00:06:18
Mike
That's not true.
00:06:20
Bhupen
Browns did it.
00:06:20
Trio of Positivity
Well, they kind of...
00:06:21
Mike
The Browns were first.
00:06:21
Trio of Positivity
Browns did it. Well, but of the major battles that are out there, did you really think the Browns were going to away from Flacco not starting?
00:06:27
Mike
Browns were first.
00:06:31
Mike
It just doesn't matter. i don't think Justin Fields, I don't,
00:06:33
Bhupen
Miller put money on it this year, too.
00:06:36
Mike
I don't think the the Jets are going to have Justin Fields.
00:06:38
Trio of Positivity
How much did he put?
00:06:39
Bhupen
Now, he made some decisions on his team based at Flacco starting, so he needed that. He knew that was happening. All right.
00:06:47
Trio of Positivity
Well.
00:06:47
Mike
Okay. um That was horrible, Chris, but it's fine. ill i'll I'll bring it back for you. So first of all,
00:06:53
Bhupen
He hasn't even finished his fucking thing.
00:06:55
Trio of Positivity
That's fine. It's fine. It's typical Miller behavior. It's OK.
00:06:57
Mike
but joe Joe Flacco is the starter in Cleveland.
00:06:58
Bhupen
ah
00:07:01
Mike
Pretty obvious. He didn't play any of the preseason games. Obviously, had two rookies. The rumors around that are they're possibly going to be keeping four quarterbacks on the roster, which would be pretty crazy, if you ask me.
00:07:14
Bhupen
Deshaun Watson?
00:07:14
Mike
Deshaun doesn't count.
00:07:15
Bhupen
Doesn't count? Okay.
00:07:17
Mike
He's not technically um the roster. um Going to Chris, Indianapolis, they made the decision to go with Daniel Jones, which is fairly surprising.
00:07:20
Bhupen
Got it.
00:07:27
Mike
i don't know if you guys saw it. um but recently within the last few hours, the agent from Anthony Richardson came out and said they don't know um where his future is and and if they can trust the organization.
00:07:39
Trio of Positivity
Mm-hmm.
00:07:41
Mike
So I don't know what your guys' opinion on in the situation are, but I was kind of taken back by Daniel Jones being the starter. Obviously, me personally, due to the Anthony Richardson's inconsistencies, I didn't i thought that Daniel Jones was going to be the better quarterback.
00:07:57
Mike
But when you've invested so much, wasn wasn't Richardson the third overall pick a few years ago?
00:08:01
Bhupen
Yeah, he was. Fourth, fourth, third, fourth, yeah.
00:08:02
Mike
what Third or fourth or something or fifth or something like top five, regardless.
00:08:04
Bhupen
Pretty high.
00:08:07
Bhupen
Pretty high, yeah.
00:08:08
Mike
When you've invested that much, it's kind of weird to completely put him aside and go with Daniel Jones. I feel like, I mean, yeah, Daniel Jones is more on a playoff game technically, but I don't think he's going to be anything special.
00:08:14
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:08:21
Mike
Who knows?
00:08:22
Bhupen
Yeah. Yeah, like,
00:08:23
Trio of Positivity
Would you say that he's better than Richardson though?
00:08:26
Mike
i would I would say he's more consistent than Richardson, yeah?
00:08:29
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, and and that's where i I'm kind of leaning towards. It does remind me a lot of what the Bears kind of were trying to do with previous quarterbacks, where it's like, you know you have your franchise, supposedly, with your first round picks, and then all of a sudden you kind of don't know where to go.
00:08:45
Trio of Positivity
But Richardson has come in with some baggage where you know he tapped out. um There's been a lot of criticism of his play, um like so certain decisions. So it almost does feel like They want to protect him if they are not willing to cut him during the final cuts.
00:09:04
Trio of Positivity
It doesn't benefit to cut them, but you kind of don't know the route that they're going, which is.
00:09:09
Mike
not going cut him.
00:09:09
Bhupen
yeah Yeah, like, I don't want to give them...
00:09:10
Mike
But um the thing this is his third year.
00:09:11
Trio of Positivity
and You kind of you kind of have to, though.
00:09:14
Bhupen
No, they don't. um I was thinking, okay, have a slightly different take.
00:09:18
Mike
So they have to make a decision on his fifth round at the end of the season.
00:09:23
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but you could just like the they did with fields, like they they easily could just cut ties and call it a day.
00:09:24
Bhupen
Okay.
00:09:27
Bhupen
So, a couple of things.
00:09:28
Mike
The Bears – yeah. Yeah, this year.
00:09:32
Bhupen
um I think the coaching staff, maybe not don't like the GM and stuff, are probably trying to save their behind. Let's be honest, right? This year, if if there's anything there, um they're probably trying to do that.
00:09:45
Bhupen
But, The other positive I wanted to see was, like, remember Bryce Young was benched last year for for Dalton middle of the season, and it was, like, three games or something, and Bryce came back and had a nice little lift at the end of the year.
00:09:58
Bhupen
i Like, maybe this is too positive on my end. i was thinking though that's what they were trying to do. with bringing Daniel Jones in some with some decent money i think over 10 million a year i was thinking it was a little jolt Richardson being like hey you're not unquestionable number one you have to fight for your job this is who your competition is they made it clear to be honest neither of them blew anyone away this preseason right the fact that Daniel Jones was like maybe slightly more accurate slightly more consistent is probably what got him the job but
00:10:30
Bhupen
Maybe I'm looking at, like, um silver linings here, but I thought it was a positive step for Richardson to, like, um um take the... Have him there and do all that.
00:10:42
Bhupen
But...
00:10:43
Mike
didn't Didn't they already do that? like He's been with them for like two years, and didn't they already do like the benching thing over the last few years?
00:10:52
Bhupen
Who was the other quarterback? I don't know. i don't remember them having... He was hard, or he didn't play. i don't know. i don't remember who else.
00:10:56
Mike
Last year they had Flacco, and then the year before that they had Carson Wentz.
00:10:56
Bhupen
They didn't have Flacco last year. I remember that.
00:11:03
Mike
I don't know. Scott or John would know. But I thought they they already benched him.
00:11:05
Trio of Positivity
But...
00:11:07
Mike
But the one thing with Richardson, the two things that stick out are, one, his injury history. He can't stay on the field. Ever since the first year he came out, he was getting hurt because he's reckless with his body.
00:11:19
Mike
And number two is he just hasn't had the reps. I saw something today um that it's surprisingly he's younger than a lot of quarterbacks in this league. I think I saw... I think he's like 24 years old. I think he may be younger than like Bo Nix and some other rookies that came out last year. He's only had 1900 reps, which is not a lot. And that's in pro and college.
00:11:40
Mike
So he's very low. He's like lower than Trubisky was when he came in and Trubisky got nothing. Like he hasn't played a lot of football. So.
00:11:48
Trio of Positivity
Well, see, you say that and then it's like it's how it's how you develop for the future. I think when we saw Trubisky the first the first two years of Trubisky, it was like you see a trend that could possibly take us upward.
00:12:07
Bhupen
Mm-hmm.
00:12:07
Trio of Positivity
With the Colts, I think you saw sparks, but you never saw like an upward trend. You kind of saw like like a spike and then a down spike, a spike and then a down spike.
00:12:18
Trio of Positivity
Where with Trubisky, you kind of saw the trend going up and then stalled and then
Bears' Preseason Game Assessment
00:12:22
Trio of Positivity
straight down. So I think what the Colts are trying to do is they're trying to say, like listen, because this is what I said about cutting.
00:12:30
Trio of Positivity
Either you cut your losses, you trade them out, you do what you can, recover what you can, or you basically tell him, all right, listen, you you got another year under your belt.
00:12:41
Trio of Positivity
There's no pressure. We need to see improvement, but there's no pressure on winning. There's no pressure on anything. You just have to develop. If they go that route, maybe. But the issue is injuries. You can never, you know, predict them and you're going to end up using him. Or if you go on a slump and he's not the answer, you you got to cut ties. Like there's not much you can do.
00:13:04
Bhupen
A couple of things. He's definitely the ceiling. That's why he was drafted, right? He raises the whole team with his rushing and everything. And Daniel Jones is definitely the full floor play, in my opinion. Like, that's why you take Richardson is because he lifts the whole team up.
00:13:18
Bhupen
One positive thing I would say, and hopefully we end this on this note, is, um, He had right things to say after the benching. He said, what's good for the team? This might be the right move.
00:13:29
Bhupen
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Which shows more maturity than I've seen him in the past. Again, that could mean nothing, team speak. But, like, this is the guy who, like...
00:13:37
Trio of Positivity
Let's team speak.
00:13:38
Mike
Yeah, his agent literally just came out with the statement. I mean, come back
00:13:42
Trio of Positivity
When your agent doesn't know what your future holds, that's a problem.
00:13:48
Bhupen
right
00:13:49
Mike
on.
00:13:49
Bhupen
There's a lot of people with a lot of money on the line and ah with him.
00:13:51
Mike
don't give him credit for what he said when realistically the agent said probably what he needed to say.
00:13:54
Bhupen
But like, like if this was the, if this was the guy that like took off play because he was tired, I feel like he would have said something reckless.
00:13:56
Trio of Positivity
Boobin, it's like saying...
00:14:02
Bhupen
He didn't say something reckless. I'm giving credit for doing, doing what he was supposed to do.
00:14:05
Mike
Yeah, he let his agent take the hit.
00:14:07
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, which he should. Like, let's be honest. It's it's it's the agent that has to do all that stuff. But what I'm trying to say is. When your agent, the guy that is supposed to help guide you in certain scenarios, has no idea what the team is going to do with you and they're supposed to be having talks.
00:14:26
Trio of Positivity
One conversation could have made it very easy. They could have easily said, yeah, hey, listen, we're starting Jones, but he doesn't have to worry about it. We want him to develop. They didn't even say that.
00:14:36
Bhupen
Yeah. ah
00:14:36
Mike
We don't know what happened behind closed doors.
00:14:38
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:14:39
Trio of Positivity
Oh, my God, we speculate on everything.
00:14:39
Bhupen
Okay. Okay.
00:14:40
Trio of Positivity
And now you want to say that Jesus.
00:14:41
Bhupen
Okay, people. People, before we become a Coles podcast, let me bring it back home to the Bears. And this is a good transition into our next segment, which is our preseason week two game, right?
00:14:52
Bhupen
So all I wanted to say was relax. Take a long breath. For the viewers, so for the people, just to show you people how
00:14:58
Trio of Positivity
That's mostly Miller.
00:15:01
Trio of Positivity
It's mostly to Miller.
00:15:03
Mike
Get the fuck out here, Buzzkill.
00:15:06
Bhupen
Can I fucking finish? Can you stop?
00:15:08
Bhupen
Can you? Chris, Chris, can you mute him?
00:15:08
Mike
No, not if you're going to bring that bullshit.
00:15:11
Mike
R-E-L-A-N.
00:15:12
Bhupen
Can I fucking talk?
00:15:14
Mike
First of all, you shouldn't say anything that was already quoted by Aaron Rodgers.
00:15:14
Bhupen
Jesus Christ.
00:15:18
Bhupen
Bitch, shut up.
00:15:18
Mike
it's a That's like a sin on the Chicago They don't need to see the behind the scenes because it's going to be the title of the episode.
00:15:21
Bhupen
Okay, just to give people some insight in the back end, the title of this episode is Super Bowl 2026. Question mark, question mark, question mark.
00:15:30
Trio of Positivity
And who wrote it?
00:15:30
Bhupen
Okay?
00:15:31
Trio of Positivity
Just put it it out there?
00:15:34
Bhupen
I'm good. Shut the fuck up. Can I fucking talk? Okay, so all I want to say is, like, I have not been a Caleb hater. I support the guy. I feel like, you know, i like, there were some good things, good things to build on, the moves we made.
00:15:50
Bhupen
I'm not a hater, okay? And what he did, like... This week, which we'll talk about in a minute. There were some good steps, good strides. But what I want to say is like it was one series against a second tier, second tier defense.
00:16:03
Bhupen
I don't want people to like fucking think playoffs and like Super Bowls. I want people to think we are rebuilding. We are doing it. And it's going to be some good things and bad things.
00:16:14
Trio of Positivity
yeah
00:16:14
Bhupen
That's all I want to say. I'm
00:16:16
Trio of Positivity
Oh, I love it. I love it.
00:16:18
Mike
to take a page out of To take a page out of Ben's book, do you know anything about quarterbacking?
00:16:19
Bhupen
sorry.
00:16:24
Mike
Are you an idiot? Like, okay, no one cares about his fucking stats. It's how he looked in the game. It's how the offense looked. It doesn't matter what string of defense is on the field.
00:16:35
Mike
When you're going into a drop back and you get that get rid of that ball in two seconds smoothly to the correct read to in the correct spot, that's what matters. does It doesn't matter that they're playing the third string defense.
00:16:46
Mike
It's how the operation looked.
00:16:47
Bhupen
I mean, it it does, but okay. Again, I'm not a hater. You know I'm not a hater. You know I've been giving him props when he deserved it. So I'm not coming from a place of like...
00:16:55
Mike
The fact that he completely changed from what he did last year. Last year, he was holding on to the ball.
00:16:59
Bhupen
Okay, what happened in the second drive then?
00:17:01
Mike
What happened in the second drive?
00:17:03
Bhupen
We got five yards.
00:17:03
Mike
He put a ball perfect. He put put a ball perfectly to Rome that dropped it. I don't know what you want from him.
00:17:09
Bhupen
don't know.
00:17:09
Mike
If he throws it inside, it's intercepted. He put the ball ah outside towards the sideline to Rome and dropped it. Okay, you if you want to blame it on him, fine.
00:17:15
Bhupen
What I'm saying is like
00:17:18
Mike
You can blame it on Caleb. I don't know what to tell you. The bottom line is, what we want what were you looking for in this game
00:17:20
Bhupen
All I'm saying is it was one drive.
00:17:24
Mike
is you were looking for somebody that seemed to have control of the offense, someone where we weren't getting false start, delay of game penalties like we've been talking about for the last few weeks.
00:17:32
Trio of Positivity
We did get a false start.
00:17:34
Bhupen
Which we overcame, by the way, again.
00:17:35
Mike
and
00:17:36
Bhupen
Thank you
00:17:36
Trio of Positivity
we did get We did get a false start.
00:17:37
Mike
No, we didn't.
00:17:38
Trio of Positivity
Yes, we did.
00:17:38
Bhupen
We did. We had a penalty, but yeah, I think so.
00:17:39
Mike
The first team?
00:17:41
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:17:41
Bhupen
It was a penalty.
00:17:42
Mike
That was holding.
00:17:44
Bhupen
don't about what it was.
00:17:45
Trio of Positivity
I mean, it's a penalty, but I thought it was a false start.
00:17:48
Mike
could be. I don't remember. But you're not getting penalties and has full control the offense and getting rid of the football. That's what you wanted to see. That's exactly what you fucking saw. The fact that he drove the ball down the field and scored a touchdown, whereas Brownie was mucho gusto, Super Bowl bound, Chicago Bears, here we come.
00:18:05
Bhupen
That's the last part I sort of have issues
00:18:06
Mike
the The other thing that pisses me off, the other thing that pisses the other thing that pisses me off, if he wereve come out thrown an interception gone Justin Fields numbers, everybody would have been up in arms.
00:18:24
Mike
The city would have been burning down. Everybody would have been freaking out.
00:18:28
Bhupen
And that's my problem.
00:18:28
Mike
So the fact that people like you are now saying relax after he did what he did on so and Sunday is so annoying.
00:18:29
Bhupen
I am not. no no no no na na na no no no na na No, no, no, no, not, not to me. Not to me.
00:18:36
Bhupen
You don't do that to me. I have not been a hater, bro. I have not been a hater. I've given him props when he deserves. You cannot do that to me. Chris might have done differently, but I have never been like born the city now.
00:18:37
Mike
Just like be fucking excited.
00:18:49
Trio of Positivity
Hey, don't don't throw my name out when I haven't said shit yet.
00:18:53
Bhupen
Okay.
00:18:53
Trio of Positivity
Don't throw my name out there. But go ahead and go ahead and finish what you want to say.
00:18:55
Bhupen
Okay. so No, not that that's what it was. I was just like, I'm excited for the year probably more than I was before, but let's fucking dive back. I want see in the regular season game, want to see us build, I want to see us be competitive.
00:19:11
Bhupen
I've always said this, I feel like, but that's what I wanted to say. The hype is a little overblown. Without offending Chris.
00:19:18
Mike
Again, it's not you're you're too focused on the performance overall. It's not on the based on the numbers and the fact that they got a touchdown drive. The hype is based on how the operation was for him as a quarterback.
00:19:31
Bhupen
Okay.
00:19:31
Mike
And that was where the strides were made, and that's where the improvement
Caleb Williams' Preseason Performance Discussion
00:19:34
Mike
was made.
00:19:34
Trio of Positivity
Can we really say strides were made on one drive though?
00:19:38
Bhupen
It looked good. Like, i don't know what to do.
00:19:39
Mike
It's the only drive that...
00:19:40
Trio of Positivity
But like,
00:19:41
Mike
Okay, so it's the only thing that we've seen in the Ben Johnson offense.
00:19:44
Trio of Positivity
right.
00:19:44
Mike
So how could you not?
00:19:44
Trio of Positivity
But you've, you, but you've pointed out on Twitter,
00:19:47
Mike
So you're just going you're goingnna continue to focus on what he did last year?
00:19:51
Trio of Positivity
No.
00:19:51
Mike
that's cool.
00:19:51
Trio of Positivity
See, if you let me finish, you'll know what I was going to tell you. So you've posted on our group chat multiple times about how certain people have reacted to Caleb's play during training camp that he's been up and down.
00:20:05
Trio of Positivity
And then he has a game like this and it's supposed to like silence the the the criticizers. When in reality, we've seen this before. It's just a different type of of of of play. The one thing I will say that he has improved is not holding onto the ball from what I saw.
00:20:23
Trio of Positivity
That's the only thing I can say with genuine um criticism is that he didn't hold onto the ball. There was a blown screen. What did he do? Threw it on the floor. That is probably his greatest play that I've seen him do because that, that is an improvement over someone that has a blown play and he think thinks he,
00:20:38
Mike
He had
00:20:43
Mike
six fucking turnovers last year! Calm fucking down!
00:20:45
Trio of Positivity
all done. All right. Let me finish while you take ah your baby juice serum there. um Last year, he would have tried to make a play out of something, which he's done before, which we would always say, oh, that's a that's an X factor. Like we we like that of him.
00:21:03
Bhupen
when you When you get sacked 80 times, Chris, I'll probably do the same thing.
00:21:04
Trio of Positivity
Like,
00:21:07
Bhupen
But anyway, um if if you're okay with this, this a good transition into our next segment where we talk about bears.
00:21:12
Trio of Positivity
Well, I have one more point about this whole Caleb Williams thing.
00:21:16
Bhupen
Come back.
00:21:17
Trio of Positivity
Is... We always over-hype preseason. And this was the first time we saw him. If he played like this in week one of preseason and week two of preseason, I would agree with Miller 100%.
00:21:31
Trio of Positivity
ah hundred percent But because we've...
00:21:32
Bhupen
Hey, stay tuned. He will play week three.
00:21:36
Trio of Positivity
And that's that's where I want to see... how consistent this is. If it's a consistency thing with him, that's it.
00:21:43
Bhupen
Stay tuned. All right. um This is a good transition, I think, into our next segment, which was the Bears preseason week two game. ah We played the Buffalo Bills following joint practice on Friday.
00:21:55
Bhupen
ah We whipped them 38-0. The offense looked good, scored some touchdowns, but defense, God. Like they had one yard in their first, um like when our first string off defense was out there.
00:22:08
Bhupen
They had 47 total yards, I think, first half. Like, just incredible numbers throughout defense. Probably gets the tip of the hat. But Bears won
00:22:16
Mike
So you're going to give the defense a tip of hat the going backups, you're not going to give Williams of I'm in stuck it.
00:22:21
Bhupen
Jesus.
00:22:21
Mike
stuck it. stuck I'm in I'm in it.
00:22:22
Bhupen
Hey, Miller, if you interrupt people, they may be saying some things and you speak before they do.
00:22:23
Mike
I'm in it. stuck I'm stuck it.
00:22:28
Bhupen
So you can't finish.
00:22:28
Mike
stuck
00:22:29
Mike
it.
00:22:31
Mike
the stuck
00:22:32
Trio of Positivity
i I mean, he kind of has a point, Boopin, but.
00:22:32
Mike
stuck in it. I'm stuck in it. in stuck it.
00:22:34
Bhupen
I mean, that was the third time I had to fucking call him out on this episode and say,
00:22:36
Mike
stuck I'm in stuck stuck in I'm stuck it. I'm in it. I'm stuck it. stuck it. I'm stuck
00:22:41
Bhupen
oh my god.
00:22:42
Mike
in in it. it. stuck in
00:22:43
Bhupen
and Maybe I have to be better and say, get off his dick and I'm on his side. i like the guy, but Jesus.
00:22:48
Trio of Positivity
That's what I was trying to figure out.
00:22:49
Bhupen
All
00:22:49
Trio of Positivity
Like, um are we really saying that this one drive was enough?
00:22:53
Bhupen
right, Chris. I'm sorry. Ernie Miller, you you can have Kalo's performance. tell us Tell us what we missed.
00:23:04
Mike
I don't understand what you... One drive isn't enough. Of course it's not enough. But you guys are not acknowledging the elephant in the room of what was last year, and you're holding your head based on what he did last year when he had two offense or three offensive coordinators and two head coaches in his rookie year.
00:23:23
Mike
It was turmoil, straight turmoil. He then goes and gets probably one of, if not the best, offensive minds in football to be his head coach. And what happens?
00:23:34
Mike
The first and only drive that we see, he drives it into a hundred almost 100 yards for a touchdown. And like I said, it's not all based on the performance, although he had pinpoint accuracy, perfect balls every time, spirals, spirals.
00:23:47
Bhupen
See, you can't have it both ways. You cannot say it's well not based on that and say pinpoint accuracy.
00:23:52
Mike
No, but not only that, but he just totally changed as he acted as a quarterback. Like Chris pointed out, it wasn't holding the ball. It wasn't super manning all the time. I think there was one play, but.
00:24:04
Mike
He was getting the ball out quickly on target to the correct receiver.
00:24:05
Trio of Positivity
But that was within the play. Yeah, that was within.
00:24:09
Mike
That's what he did.
00:24:09
Bhupen
yeah it
00:24:10
Mike
And when you have an offensive mind like that, and when you have a talent that is Caleb Williams, he was, ah after all, the number one overall pick.
00:24:10
Bhupen
looked good. It looked good.
00:24:18
Mike
Why are you guys dwelling on what happened last year instead of focusing on why couldn't this? why Why is it so surprising?
00:24:25
Trio of Positivity
i can answer that.
00:24:25
Mike
that's what i That's what I want to know.
00:24:27
Trio of Positivity
I can answer that. we We saw what happened last year. That's the difference. Even with all the changes, we we saw that if if we're going to say, because we all can agree Caleb has the talent.
00:24:43
Trio of Positivity
I think there's no question if he is not talented. He has the talent.
00:24:47
Bhupen
Wow. Wow. That was good to hear you say that, Chris. Go on.
00:24:50
Trio of Positivity
He has the talent. But in typical Chicago Bears function, we we bring quarterbacks here to die. So my thing is no, but my thing is, is if, if this one drive is enough to carry us to preseason and week one, okay, we can have it, but it's not to say that that's going to be the future of this team.
00:25:00
Bhupen
Okay, ESPN.
00:25:14
Trio of Positivity
We always say, oh my God, we're the Kings of the off season. We played so good in the preseason and then we turned to shit. Like we've, we've, we've had this before.
00:25:24
Bhupen
it's it's more than that miller i think we as a podcast hang on hang on as a podcast at least for me you know we are positive we are positive about the bears so we always like you know like to be think we'll be better like have a shot of playoffs and wild card and all that covered i think as a podcast we are positive i think like what i'm harping on is i'm not letting the
00:25:26
Mike
don't think we've ever seen a drive that looked that good.
00:25:29
Trio of Positivity
Yes, we have.
00:25:47
Bhupen
past hold me back but I'm also not letting me fly away you know I'm like being tethered to the ground by the past that was like painful both for Caleb and for us Because of that, because of the history that this Christian shared, really promising quarterbacks have come here and not done much.
00:26:04
Bhupen
All of that is kind of like holding me back from like flying away into like Super Bowl and playoff land. That's what I'm saying. And it was a hell of a drive.
00:26:10
Mike
Oh, that's bullshit.
00:26:11
Bhupen
It was like a really promising drive. Really good coaching staff. Really, I all i see all that. All that, I still want to say I'm not flying away yet. That's all I wanted to say.
00:26:22
Mike
Okay, well, too bad you didn't get tickets to San Francisco like I did. they good The prices are going to go up, so have fun flying there by yourself.
00:26:28
Bhupen
Did you really get... Did you really... Okay, send us a photo of the ticket. I don't believe you.
00:26:35
Trio of Positivity
Of course he didn't.
00:26:35
Mike
Yeah, I'm...
00:26:36
Trio of Positivity
He's married with kids.
00:26:36
Mike
mama
00:26:37
Trio of Positivity
He's not spending money.
00:26:38
Bhupen
Okay.
00:26:39
Mike
i'm good I'm going with Sydney Sweeney. She's sitting right next to me.
00:26:42
Bhupen
Hey, Miller...
00:26:42
Trio of Positivity
With her, with her jeans.
00:26:42
Mike
What kind question was that?
00:26:44
Bhupen
Hey, Miller, close close your close your ears.
00:26:44
Mike
With the cheese.
00:26:46
Bhupen
Close your ears for this.
00:26:46
Mike
Well,
00:26:47
Bhupen
The first drive, we did have 97 yards in our touchdown. The second drive that the first team offense played, we we went one for four with nine yards. So, um you know, he overall had 100-some yards um in the two series he played.
00:27:00
Bhupen
not Not too shabby.
00:27:01
Mike
they had more than that. It was 20-yard drive,
00:27:03
Bhupen
i think it was... He had a total 107 yards, 103 yards. Okay.
00:27:09
Mike
Yeah, doesn't count the rushing yards from their running back.
00:27:09
Bhupen
three years
00:27:14
Trio of Positivity
Okay, so we're we're finally at the second drive of this conversation, and now we can kind of talk a little bit about the first half of this offense, given that we got to see the first line starters in the second.
00:27:25
Trio of Positivity
How do you guys feel so far about the play calling in in this preseason, in these two preseason games?
00:27:33
Bhupen
I think we have a talking point, don't we, Miller, about Baygent?
00:27:33
Mike
Okay.
00:27:36
Bhupen
I think that's going to come up in a minute, but...
00:27:38
Mike
I don't know. I can't tell you the last time I saw a team put up... Okay, scratch it. The Bears put up 500 plus yards in a fucking game.
00:27:46
Trio of Positivity
It's fucking preseason, bro.
00:27:49
Mike
You just asked me to touch on the offense like the preseason and now you're telling me it's preseason.
00:27:49
Bhupen
True.
00:27:51
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:27:55
Mike
What do you want me to say?
00:27:55
Trio of Positivity
youre can't you're You're literally saying like this was the game for the ages, but like there's different players. We're not going to see the same players.
00:28:04
Mike
Chris, you've just asked me...
00:28:04
Trio of Positivity
you know I'm genuinely asking about the play calling.
00:28:07
Mike
Talk to me about the offense and the play calling.
00:28:09
Trio of Positivity
The play calling. The play calling.
00:28:10
Mike
Okay. I've never seen play calling from the Chicago Bears generate 500 plus yards of offense.
00:28:17
Trio of Positivity
Okay, that sounds better.
00:28:18
Mike
Fucking stupid ass, bro. You guys need fucking call your asses.
00:28:21
Trio of Positivity
That sounds a lot better.
00:28:22
Bhupen
i' you Hey, hey, hey, ah stop with the you guys, okay? I am not his level.
00:28:27
Mike
No, you're both.
00:28:28
Bhupen
I'm somewhere in the middle. But talking about Bajan, this is not the first half, because this is the total game. But he went 13 of 22, 196 yards in a touchdown. Pete's QBR ratings was 103.6, which is highest of his career.
00:28:42
Trio of Positivity
Fox loved them, bro.
00:28:42
Bhupen
um Yeah, so um we we love him, too. Like, you know, like, preseason, a lot of backups that play.
00:28:48
Mike
Can we get back to Baygent? I want to talk about Baygent later.
00:28:51
Bhupen
I am talking about Bajan.
00:28:52
Trio of Positivity
He's we're literally talking about.
00:28:52
Mike
I said, can we get back to him later?
00:28:53
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:28:55
Bhupen
Oh, okay. I asked you if we had a segment on him and you didn't fucking...
00:28:55
Mike
um
00:28:56
Mike
Yes.
00:28:59
Mike
And I didn't comment it because i didn't want to talk about it.
00:29:02
Bhupen
Oh my god.
00:29:02
Mike
um I like the play calling.
00:29:03
Bhupen
he I can't with him today.
00:29:05
Mike
It's exciting.
00:29:06
Bhupen
I can't with him today.
00:29:07
Mike
they're He's hitting all the different receivers. He used both tight ends for the first team, Kmet and Loveland got in.
00:29:13
Trio of Positivity
Yep. yeah
00:29:14
Mike
um Again, i think the big question mark with this team is how DJ is going to get used. We'll see. You have exciting things going on with our rookie wide receiver, Burden. um It's just excitement around the team. The offense looks smooth.
00:29:27
Mike
And you know what? I'm ah im i'm almost already... Ready to guarantee that I'm going to win my bet against Ben about the offense having more yards than the ah punter. So, well, here we go But, no, overall, I think the play calling, it's fun, it's exciting, and its it's games like this that you really understand the difference between ah competent offense and a shitty offense that you guys continue to hold your hat to last year.
00:29:55
Mike
But, hey, some people look forward and others look back.
00:29:59
Trio of Positivity
He says that, and yet he criticizes everything that's happened in the past, but that's fine. um I like the play call Boopin your, your thoughts on the the play calling so far.
00:30:09
Bhupen
No, similarly, i've said last week too, like, better um but separation. i so saw a lot of that, like, you know, like, good... Quarterback play overall from both quarterbacks.
00:30:21
Bhupen
very Very impressive. Like Luth Burden doing the dirty work, doing the block, scoring the touchdown. Lots of positive. like Like, again, I didn't know the 500 yards. I probably should have looked it up. But, like, overall, it looked fluid. It was going. They were aggressive.
00:30:36
Bhupen
um Ben Johnson didn't have a smile on his face even when he was up, like, 38-0, which put us smile which would a smile to my face.
00:30:41
Mike
That was hilarious.
00:30:43
Bhupen
So he just wants – he's got that Dan Campbell. like, let's put 50 him. Like, face, oh, man, dude, like, I loved every bit of the game. It was an amazing game for the Bears.
00:30:53
Trio of Positivity
um I feel like it's it's probably more balanced than what I recall. Looking at the stats from last game um against the Bills, ah they were 9-16 on third downs.
00:31:07
Trio of Positivity
um The rushing attempts was 43. The passing attempts was 39. So there's there's some balance and in between there.
00:31:15
Bhupen
Barely.
00:31:17
Trio of Positivity
The one thing I noticed, and and I don't know if you guys caught that during the whole game, um they're coming to the line like a lot faster. so like, I haven't really seen the play clock come down when it comes to, to like last year we would see like they would get, they would rush to the line and there's like seven seconds left or something like that.
00:31:38
Trio of Positivity
I haven't seen anything in the first two preseason games where it seems like the clock is an issue. So there's improvement on that. I know in hard knocks, they talked a little bit about that.
00:31:48
Trio of Positivity
Um, making sure that he understands the play call. He gets it in, in time and stuff like that. I would love to have seen hard knocks this season with them, um, just to see what they're doing. But yeah, I'm, I'm okay with it so far.
00:32:01
Trio of Positivity
It's I'm not to the, uh, deep throating that Miller's, uh, currently doing.
00:32:05
Bhupen
Yeah, seriously, I'm like, really get a room. am like ashamed right now. But we have to talk about the other side of the ball, even though that would...
00:32:12
Mike
No, we don't. So, doug Chris's point, I think a lot of this is by design. I think like Ben Johnson has said in multiple press conferences, he's The amount of stuff that they threw at Caleb, I think it was mountainous. I think it was a lot. i think it was a lot of shit, a lot of bullshit.
00:32:31
Mike
And I think those are a lot of the reasons why he has struggled early on in this offense and in the in practice and and stuff like that, because it's so much.
00:32:41
Mike
And I think the reason why he had so much success in this game because I think it went from we're going to throw the whole fucking mountain at you to, well, now we're just going to give you the eight plays that you've practiced 50 billion times.
00:32:56
Mike
And so he was easily able to execute the offense. And I'm hoping that that's kind of a signal of what's going to happen in the future.
00:33:03
Trio of Positivity
Thank
00:33:04
Mike
They're just trying to prepare him for, here's the overall, the offense, this is all you have to learn. But once we get to game day, it's going to be a lot simpler, easier for you to manage and enable you to move forward with a little more success.
00:33:15
Trio of Positivity
And remember, we talked about it last week where we were like, he didn't play week one, but they had him out there for like, what, 90 plus snaps or something like that.
00:33:26
Bhupen
That's 80.
00:33:27
Mike
Yes, it's 76.
00:33:27
Trio of Positivity
And and we were like, man, I don't know if he would really get that many snaps. Right. And then you look at the stats from week two and you see what what was it?
00:33:38
Trio of Positivity
Thirty nine passing attempts and forty three rushing attempts.
00:33:40
Bhupen
No,
00:33:41
Trio of Positivity
um If someone can do quick maths. um
00:33:44
Mike
That's not even, well, that's all you're talking about overall.
00:33:46
Bhupen
that's 80, 80, 82.
00:33:46
Trio of Positivity
It's not even close, but it's.
00:33:48
Mike
you're That's like 76. 82.
00:33:49
Trio of Positivity
No, it's 82.
00:33:50
Bhupen
it's eighty eighty editor
00:33:51
Mike
you too
00:33:51
Trio of Positivity
It's 82. So the fact that like we were like, ah, there's no fucking way that he's going to be able to do anything like that. And then we're kind of getting close to that number. It's like, oh, OK, I guess there's a method to the madness then.
00:34:05
Bhupen
Yeah, I did. Oh, like and this may be quote speeds again to you guys. But again, you they ask Caleb say, hey great performance. And he was like, yeah, you know, like I was doing a lot in practice.
00:34:17
Bhupen
A lot of things are not going my way. This is a step in the right direction. But as they say, one step forward, two step back. i'm I'm sure there will be like days when I struggle a little bit. So like he's also looking that growth mindset.
00:34:29
Bhupen
He's also talking that. But again, you guys might say it's quote speak again. But I like that, too, what do he said after the game. um
00:34:36
Mike
You can move on now.
00:34:36
Bhupen
I know. do Do we want talk about defense? Left tackle? Running back? We spent a lot of time on this. I don't know how much time we more we want to talk about this.
00:34:44
Mike
Well, let's talk about the two big defensive performances that we had. One was Andrew Billings, obviously the big man in the middle. But the second one was Austin Booker, who we talked about last week.
00:34:56
Mike
He is currently, he had a sack in this game. He did have a really bad penalty. um But he is currently tied for first for most sacks in the first two preseasons. So, um yeah, he made a splash last preseason, but let's hope he's made the the next step and let's hope that he becomes an impact player on this defense. But overall, it was a good performance all around. Whenever you can shut out a team, it's it's impressive to say the least.
00:35:22
Mike
And then obviously the other elephant in the room here, if you will, is the left tackle competition. And like Boopens pointed out on our text chat, I don't remember if was last week, it's probably settled at this point.
00:35:37
Mike
It looks like Braxton Jones is going to be the last tackle, who is ah the the guy that we've had the previous few years. Now, obviously, it could be predicted, but the concern that I have is, I hate to go down this road because Ben's going to eat it up, but did Poles fuck up another pick?
00:35:57
Mike
with our um drafting of uh what's his name uh trapillo who is now trapillo is now the backup to our right tackle position ozzy trapillo
00:36:02
Bhupen
Trapillo? No, ah I think... So, Trapillo...
00:36:12
Bhupen
Yeah, looks like Trapillo definitely has a higher ceiling, it seems. And he just needs to get...
00:36:17
Mike
higher ceiling where
00:36:19
Bhupen
like right tackle, which is natural position, but maybe he could be the swing tackle at left as well. um The problem i have seen in reports is he has like ah Ben Johnson's playbook is like a lot of fast play.
00:36:34
Bhupen
And then that's where he has to get used to the pace of the game a little bit more. um And to Jones's credit, looks like he was really coming back from that injury and really took him some time to get back and look better because Initially in the camp reports, he was not looking great. So it was combination of that, Trapillo being solid, average play.
00:36:56
Bhupen
And Jones is looking bad, but now Jones is probably stabled. He started with the first unit, right? Like didn't give up, maybe gave up one pressure, um like was solid the rest of the game.
00:37:07
Bhupen
So it was his game, but Trapillo, right tackle, natural fit. Looks like he can start there if if we need him, but he might be our swing tackle, I think, for this season.
00:37:15
Mike
but you Are you really going to give Ryan Poles credit for drafting a right tackle when we already had Darnell Wright, who we wasted 10th round pick on two years ago? like To me, this is not a good sign.
00:37:27
Trio of Positivity
This goes back to the conversation we had last week where we talked about how much input Ben Johnson is having on on the draft. Like, it's a new offense. You're going to have a new coach and you're going to have a new way of how they're going to bring in players.
00:37:44
Bhupen
Yeah, I, if I, if I, if I can give him credit, like, usually, and maybe, like, not top 10, whatever he was, how high was he?
00:37:44
Trio of Positivity
Like, that that's bound to happen.
00:37:46
Mike
Okay, I understand that. I understand that.
00:37:53
Bhupen
Was he late first round? Trapillo, second round?
00:37:56
Mike
Who? He was second round.
00:37:57
Bhupen
Trapillo. Okay, so, usually, what good teams do is, like, they load up on these talents, like, you know, and then, like, they work out a year, two years out.
00:38:08
Bhupen
That's what good teams do. So I'm i'm not trying to give him credit for this pick. It's too early to say. ah second round pick, I don't know what would like, yes, that's some second, third rounders starting in the league, but don't know what the expectation is for the second round.
00:38:20
Bhupen
they don't You don't expect him to...
00:38:21
Mike
Second round pick is the expectation as you're starting.
00:38:24
Trio of Positivity
no
00:38:24
Bhupen
I i don't know. Not on the offensive line.
00:38:25
Trio of Positivity
i don't
00:38:25
Mike
disagree.
00:38:26
Bhupen
I don't think so.
00:38:28
Mike
And
00:38:28
Trio of Positivity
No. It's depending on the need of the team. like You can't make that assumption.
00:38:32
Mike
for an offensive lineman, it's pretty good assumption.
00:38:36
Trio of Positivity
Did we? Okay. So let me flip it on you then. Us picking a tight end first, is he expected to start?
00:38:42
Mike
like You have to understand. I mean, yes. First rounders, of course, are expected to start. Second rounders are pretty much 100%.
00:38:48
Trio of Positivity
No, they're not.
00:38:49
Mike
much If you don't have a first rounder that starts, it's a fail. My thing is, is Ozzy Trupil was the right tackle in college.
00:38:55
Trio of Positivity
So then...
00:38:57
Mike
Ryan Poles drafted Darnell Wright two years ago, three years ago, something like that. He's going to be coming up on, I think i think this is his third year. If you draft somebody, you don't draft them to replace Darnell Wright.
00:39:12
Mike
I'm sorry. And Boopin, your theory may be correct, but I don't think that's correct. Because you're not going to be drafting another right tackle to replace your right tackle when you don't have a left tackle.
00:39:22
Trio of Positivity
So we did we draft the tight end to replace our tight end?
00:39:23
Mike
So I think they drafted Ozzy Trapilo. I think they drafted Ozzy Trapilo to play be a left tackle. And I think he failed.
00:39:31
Trio of Positivity
Okay, that's great. Answer my question. Did we draft the tight end to replace a tight end?
00:39:37
Mike
Yes.
00:39:38
Bhupen
Probably.
00:39:40
Bhupen
i think that our Titan is our Titan is like making 15 million.
00:39:40
Trio of Positivity
Then you answered your own question then.
00:39:44
Mike
That is an irrelevant question.
00:39:46
Trio of Positivity
No, because if if you have that same mindset of a first
00:39:46
Bhupen
Whatever.
00:39:47
Mike
So you're saying that he drafted him. Okay, so let me ask you this. If he drafted him to replace Darnell Wright, why did he start on the left tackle?
00:39:55
Trio of Positivity
I think tackle like Miller or Blake Boopin was saying, there's a lot of tackles that always seem to switch between left and right or seeing where they fit.
00:40:01
Mike
But he is a right tackle in college, and they started him at left tackle.
00:40:03
Trio of Positivity
Understood. But yeah they. That's great. I understand that. But we always seem to do that. Same with guards.
00:40:09
Mike
Okay.
00:40:09
Mike
Well, well, Ben, Ben, since you're going our only listener, I think I could agree with you.
00:40:09
Trio of Positivity
You'll have a right guard that will start left guard.
00:40:11
Bhupen
I think. I.
00:40:15
Mike
And I think this is turning out to be a very concerning pick from Ryan Poles. These two don't believe so.
00:40:20
Bhupen
i ah Again, like there's two two different things. Drafting for need and drafting for the future. And like drafting for need is when you're desperate. That's what you want to do.
00:40:28
Mike
We are, we're pretty desperate.
00:40:28
Trio of Positivity
Yes.
00:40:29
Bhupen
good teams Good teams like the like Chiefs and the Eagles they don't like and the Ravens, like usually they don't draft. What do we need now? They're like, okay, who's owed money? do we would have to pay next year?
00:40:41
Bhupen
That's who they draft? It's too early to say is what I'm saying.
00:40:43
Mike
We just reloaded the offensive line and had four left tackles competing for the left tackle position. Why are you acting like the left tackle isn't a problem?
00:40:54
Bhupen
ah we we have a very solid starter. we like We have one. We got him the fifth round. He's paid. We have him. I don't know.
00:41:01
Mike
No, he's not. This is his last season.
00:41:04
Bhupen
Is it that season? and So maybe you see left tackle. People move him from right to left all the time. Why are you making him seem like he's the...
00:41:09
Trio of Positivity
Yes.
00:41:10
Mike
And they just tried it. They just tried it and now they're moving him back because he sucked.
00:41:11
Bhupen
I know. the It's his first... It's his fucking year. First fucking year. Give him some time. He's a second round pick, not a first round pick. Your expectations are way too high.
00:41:20
Mike
oh my god. He was like...
00:41:21
Trio of Positivity
No, I guess. OK, so just to all right, let's dial it back a bit and then we got to get into fantasy because we're we're we're pushing. This is going to be a two hour episode.
00:41:30
Mike
It's fine.
00:41:30
Trio of Positivity
um My my my thought process with Miller of him saying, did we screw up a pick? That's where I'm not 100% sold on yet.
00:41:41
Bhupen
how How can you say like three months in?
00:41:43
Trio of Positivity
No, but hold on. But hold on. From that mentality, because what Miller is saying is that polls mess up the pick. That's what Miller is asking. For me, I'm in the position of we see the position changes all the time.
00:41:57
Trio of Positivity
We see players go back and forth, and we see some players get drafted, and then they'll play somewhere else. like we We see just about everything.
00:42:03
Mike
Because the Bears offensive line sucks.
00:42:04
Trio of Positivity
The only thing I will say, the Bears offensive line has sucked for multiple years, though.
00:42:06
Mike
That's why we see it. That's why we've seen those things. They've never worked out.
00:42:10
Trio of Positivity
Right. Right. And so when I when I asked last episode, like, how much input will Ben Johnson have into the draft?
00:42:15
Bhupen
ah
00:42:17
Trio of Positivity
And you're like, oh he'll have a big I'll have a lot of input because this, you know, it's a new offense and blah, blah, blah. It's like, all right, this was the first draft. Maybe they're doing something different.
00:42:27
Bhupen
That's what I'm saying. like And Chiefs, literally right now, I think are trying to install a new left left tackle, if I remember correctly. Like, good teams do it all the time. It's just they, like, fucking... um Our guard was fucking playing...
00:42:39
Mike
Yeah, but they probably drafted a left tackle to play left tackle, not a right tackle to then go play left tackle.
00:42:45
Bhupen
I just said they are trying. they just said they have someone's moving position. I literally just said that they are literally doing this.
00:42:50
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, and I just don't understand, and then we'll end it with this. I just don't understand how we're going to say that we were drafting a tight end to replace a tight end when we paid a tight end, but we're not making the same comparison of of the of the tackle position.
00:43:05
Trio of Positivity
Like, why can't the same comparison be made?
00:43:07
Bhupen
And. and
00:43:08
Mike
Because Cole Komet has one year of guarantees left this year, and Darnell Wright has probably two or three years left on this team. That's why.
00:43:16
Bhupen
two to like fifth is very team options or one year really right I heard
00:43:21
Mike
This is his fourth year. think this is his third year.
00:43:26
Trio of Positivity
he's saying one plus one. So like going into four third year, going into four.
00:43:28
Mike
So third year this year. so yeah had this year, next year, and then they have the fifth year.
00:43:31
Trio of Positivity
Yep.
00:43:32
Bhupen
one of an after this
00:43:32
Trio of Positivity
And then fifth third option.
00:43:33
Mike
So three years. That's why.
00:43:35
Bhupen
Okay, I don't know the answer. like I try to look up quickly.
00:43:37
Mike
And first of all, whatever.
00:43:39
Bhupen
Like, do second rounds usually start? ah What's the hit rate? I couldn't get any answer from Google. So, we'll take that offline. But, um I don't know.
00:43:48
Bhupen
We spent a lot time.
00:43:49
Mike
Left tackles are usually first round.
00:43:51
Mike
Right tackles, guards, and centers are usually second and third.
00:43:54
Bhupen
Okay. So, we got a second round.
00:43:56
Trio of Positivity
Starters or fillers?
00:43:57
Mike
Starters. starters
00:43:59
Trio of Positivity
Interesting.
00:43:59
Mike
Fillers are usually fourth, fifth, and sixth. And seventh. Okay, moving on, even though boop ah even though Chris doesn't want to. um
00:44:08
Bhupen
Miller, you say, you're driving this bus.
00:44:09
Mike
Injuries. There was a there's a few bad injuries during this game, and we really don't have too much information on any of it. um Terrell Smith is our cornerback. Obviously, we currently have injuries to Jalen Johnson. We don't know the status there.
00:44:24
Mike
ah It didn't look good. looked like it's probably something knee-related. We don't have any news on that. That's concerning because I think he was our number three in the cornerback room.
00:44:38
Mike
Not good there. And then Austin Booker did come up with an injury towards the end of that game. So it'll be interesting to see what happened there as he's obviously been our standout this defense.
00:44:43
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:44:49
Mike
Other than that, just quickly talking about Tyson Baygent. Obviously, he's played really well this preseason last week, and now this week he's really balled out.
00:45:00
Mike
He does have some starting experience. He went 2-2 with Justin Fields. I believe this is his last year with the Bears. What are your guys' thoughts on the future of Tyson Bajan? Do you think he should stick around? do you think we should try to flip him?
00:45:17
Mike
Or do you think we should try to solidify him as a backup quarterback? Because one thing before you answer, my concern is I feel like he is a motivated motherfucker, and I don't know if he's going to want to settle for role in this ah offense where he knows he's not going to see the field.
00:45:33
Bhupen
Uh, so let's start with his quote again. Coach speak. He says, If everything goes well, this is it. I'll be watching a lot of football this year. 18 will go out there and do his thing. So this means the world to me. It's what he said.
00:45:48
Bhupen
So just judging off of that, again, code speak, team speak. He's saying the right thing. Would love to keep him. It's like very interesting. Like, yeah do you think he can be a starter somewhere? His arm like has the first game we saw.
00:46:04
Bhupen
reminded him of hes like you know he's his arm is really not there yes he did really well this game but he he has some flaws right he he was not even a d1 quarterback so do you think he'll go and start somewhere i don't think so yes it could be if he lands the right place but there's like legit first round quarterbacks that are being bent so he may have some uh team vying for him maybe for a backup job but um I think you just make him, you know, give him a role here.
00:46:30
Mike
Oh,
00:46:33
Bhupen
he probably feels at home and stays here at a discounted, like, you know, slightly more than what he's making right now. But discounted deal would be the best.
00:46:41
Mike
a lot more. He'll probably make like 10 million. um I would argue that he's probably a better solution than... The Browns and Indy off the top of my head, probably better solution. Maybe Jackson Dart in the Giants is a better option, but and dare I say it,
00:47:02
Mike
The Jets.
00:47:06
Mike
I mean, there's just a few teams right off the top of my head that I think he's better than the current starter. But I think i think he may he might look to want to compete for a job. I don't think anybody is going to hand him the starting role.
00:47:18
Mike
But I think he might want to compete where he sees the writing on the wall here where he's not going to compete. I do hope. I hope we sign him for like... Pretty good money for a backup. Maybe not top dollar, but you got to give him some. So three $3 million money. don't thirty million or something like that
00:47:37
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:47:38
Mike
good money
00:47:38
Bhupen
mean,
00:47:39
Trio of Positivity
um I don't think this is the right market for him to try to compete. ah He's under Ben Johnson. he could probably get one more year out of it and maybe try to compete elsewhere next year if he feels like there's more opportunity.
00:47:53
Bhupen
yeah
00:47:54
Trio of Positivity
I just I don't think the market fits for him right now.
00:47:55
Bhupen
i mean
00:47:57
Bhupen
I mean, winning cures all, right? Maybe we win some games. He gets ah the bug and stays six around. It's probably our best case scenario. But yeah, he signed a three-year nothing deal.
00:48:07
Trio of Positivity
Well, we could always we could get him on a good contract and then that'll raise his stock like for draft if we were to trade him or or something like that.
00:48:09
Bhupen
um Two million. and
00:48:15
Trio of Positivity
If he has a good contract behind him, I know that we can kind of push a narrative on the picks that we would want. But I i just. So for him to want to go and compete elsewhere where he can still learn with Ben Johnson and still kind of just get better, I think it'll make him a better target next year.
00:48:30
Bhupen
I mean, Ben's staying here for five years, hopefully, but yes.
00:48:33
Mike
But, like, where – I mean, how much more learning you going to do? I see your point with Ben Johnson, but he's already been in the league for four years. Like, at some point he's going to want to get – if he really believes – like, I'm taking the mindset of he believes that he thinks he can fit in this league.
00:48:44
Bhupen
i don't think he's been in the league for four years.
00:48:47
Mike
this will This will be his fourth year.
00:48:47
Bhupen
He signed a three-year $2.7 million dollars deal, and he's on the last year.
00:48:54
Mike
Well, maybe it was three. I guess he was an undrafted free agent. So, yeah.
00:48:57
Bhupen
Yeah, he was.
00:48:58
Trio of Positivity
um
00:49:00
Mike
So, I don't know.
00:49:00
Trio of Positivity
I understand his, I understand that thought process, but at the same time, it's like, you have to put yourself in that mindset of, you see all the quarterbacks that are out there, where do you fit?
00:49:11
Trio of Positivity
And it's like,
00:49:14
Trio of Positivity
I don't see him being a like a 1A, 2A type player in another team right now. He's playing great. Like, but I mean, is it enough to say like you threw the Jets?
00:49:27
Trio of Positivity
Is it enough to overtake fields as a starter? No, you're better off doing that next year, it depending on how the record goes. Um, maybe Indy as a competition, but if it's Daniel Jones's job to lose, like, will they really go back up?
00:49:41
Trio of Positivity
They'll probably draft another quarterback. So you' you're going to go against another, another rookie.
00:49:44
Mike
That's fair.
00:49:47
Trio of Positivity
My best bet would be to treat it like a couple of years ago, how the Patriots um treated a Garoppolo is give them a good contract and then let them ball out during these preseason games so that you get your, your draft pick up.
00:49:52
Bhupen
Garoppolo. And Broussette, yeah.
00:50:01
Mike
No, Garoppolo, Garoppolo took him to the playoffs.
00:50:05
Trio of Positivity
But Garofalo, what I'm saying, though, is he had hype before he took over for Brady.
00:50:05
Mike
Didn't he? Cause that was
00:50:09
Trio of Positivity
He had hype behind that. Not a lot, but he had enough to warrant it.
00:50:12
Mike
minimal. he he got hit He got his hype when he when Brady went down with, I believe, the torn ACL, and he led them to like nine wins.
00:50:14
Trio of Positivity
And then he played.
00:50:18
Trio of Positivity
Right. But he had some hype still, but he had some hype behind that.
00:50:22
Mike
I don't know.
00:50:23
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, he had not a lot as much as he would have in the beginning of the of that injury.
00:50:27
Mike
I don't know. We've been talking about Tyson Fajan for a while, and he's done nothing but impress me.
00:50:28
Trio of Positivity
But.
00:50:32
Mike
and now it's I think he played two years ago, his rookie year, with Fields, and now it's been two years since then. and he's He's looking pretty good. I hope we keep him because I think he's a good complement for a backup, but we'll see what happens.
00:50:47
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:50:47
Trio of Positivity
if you want to keep the quarterback room together, i could see it being ah a deal to just keep everyone happy kind of thing.
00:50:55
Mike
I would like to line him up with Caleb, right?
00:50:58
Trio of Positivity
ah is the thing is though, is that lift the bears have a great year and Baygent has an amazing preseason and then an amazing training camp preseason next year, your value goes up and you're going to have to deal them.
00:51:09
Trio of Positivity
Like there's,
00:51:09
Mike
No, your value is not going to go up just from preseason play.
00:51:11
Bhupen
like Like the backups don't get traded. Like guys, like Kirk Cousins, like I know he's getting paid.
00:51:15
Mike
They have to hit the field during the season in order to have any value.
00:51:16
Bhupen
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:20
Trio of Positivity
I don't... Well, I guess for quarterbacks, I think you might have a point. I just feel like...
00:51:24
Bhupen
The only option would be if our OC, if our like quarterback coach or OC goes somewhere, they may, he may, he may get brought there.
00:51:25
Trio of Positivity
I'm of the mindset...
00:51:29
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:31
Bhupen
That's, that's his best case scenario, but.
00:51:34
Mike
okay let's get into fantasy
00:51:36
Bhupen
All right. Um, lots of bears talk, but it was good. We haven't had that much positivity coming from them in a while. So it was good to engage in some good talks. Not all positive, you know, like, you know, the name of the show.
00:51:48
Bhupen
Um, but let's talk fantasy.
Fantasy Football Running Back Tiers Overview
00:51:50
Bhupen
Like, just like last time, uh, we'll take a look at the running backs and tie it in tears. Um, you know, just spot out some names for you to keep an eye out, uh, for the drafts.
00:52:00
Bhupen
Um, let's start with the running backs. Um, I'll probably name like top 24 or so. And these are tiered up again just for your um like easy understanding.
00:52:11
Bhupen
The top tier is elite running backs in my opinion. These are like early first round picks. B. John Robinson from Atlanta is going top overall for the most part. Jameer Gibbs with Detroit, Saquon Barkley is up there, and Christian McCaffrey, this might be a controversial pick, but those four, I think, are the el lead running back tiers this year, but most of these picks are going before pick 10, like you're lucky if you get Christian McCaffrey at the end of first round because of some injury concerns, but they're going pretty early, but that's the top tier of running backs.
00:52:42
Bhupen
available um right underneath them these are the high-end running back ones that usually late first early second depending on how your people draft these would include derrick henry from baltimore aston jenty from vegas that's called calm down a little bit he was going like top 10 but like looks like it's like drifting into late first early second now bucky irving with tampa bay devon a chain look out for that he's there may be some injury on his end jonathan yeah jonathan taylor
00:53:09
Mike
It's got a calf.
00:53:11
Bhupen
with Indy and Josh Jacobs from Green Bay would be like the second tier again late first early second maybe even like late second here um any any any any questions concerns their boys before we drop into the next three tiers
00:53:27
Mike
um I don't think Josh Jacobs deserves to be in the second tier. um And on top of that, i don't know. I have a hard time. I am. yeah I'm very surprised by your Derrick Henry spot.
00:53:39
Trio of Positivity
Yep, same.
00:53:39
Mike
You love Derrick Henry. Maybe it's just because you gave up on him in our league. And it burned you. But I'm surprised that Derrick Henry isn't in the elite spot.
00:53:49
Mike
I know his age is concerning, but he's defeated it his whole career.
00:53:50
Bhupen
the Yeah.
00:53:53
Mike
And that ah offense isn't going to stop. So i don't I think unless he gets injured, which you're not really betting on when you make these tiers, I think he's probably an elite company.
00:54:02
Bhupen
Yeah, he gets dinged a tiny bit. Like, these are standard rankings. If it's any kind of PPR, right, he gets dinged a little bit. But no, fair argument.
00:54:10
Trio of Positivity
I think you you saved yourself when you labeled it late first, early least second for Derrick Henry.
00:54:11
Bhupen
Huh.
00:54:15
Trio of Positivity
That's why I'm not too upset about it. Bucky Irving, for me, it's kind of toss-up.
00:54:21
Bhupen
Damn, he had he won you the league if you had him last year.
00:54:24
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but the the toss-up in the sense of like people are probably going to draft him over maybe McCaffrey in some places. i I don't think McCaffrey...
00:54:33
Bhupen
like,
00:54:33
Mike
No, you're not going to that. You're not going to do that.
00:54:35
Trio of Positivity
I think McCaffrey is probably going to go down.
00:54:37
Mike
No, I disagree with that completely.
00:54:39
Trio of Positivity
You think so?
00:54:39
Mike
you Yeah, McCaffrey is a full – I mean, you have you have your injury concerns with him, obviously, but that's the only concerns you have.
00:54:44
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, that's the only reason I'm saying that.
00:54:46
Mike
The bottom line is if he's healthy for 17 games, he's overall number one probably by a landslide.
00:54:52
Bhupen
Yeah, like the...
00:54:53
Mike
So, like, I mean, Bucky Irving, yes, he had a good end of the season, but you have to remember you still have Rashad White on that team, and you still have another running back on that team as well.
00:54:57
Trio of Positivity
Yep.
00:55:01
Trio of Positivity
Yep.
00:55:04
Trio of Positivity
And a team that used both running backs a lot.
00:55:07
Mike
Yeah.
00:55:08
Bhupen
um Both the same argument for Josh and Christian McCaffrey. but They're probably the only healthy running back in their whole stable. Not saying they're not going to bring in new people, but like...
00:55:18
Mike
But Josh isn't as much of a catcher as Christian is. Come on.
00:55:21
Bhupen
true he he again he was the bell cow last year jesus you should see some his carries
00:55:23
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:55:25
Mike
And let's all remember, do you remember the last time that Josh Jacobs had a good season, what happened?
00:55:31
Bhupen
we're not gonna talk about that year i mean he did they made him pay on the tag and he got fat and there was a lot of things going on anyway um
00:55:32
Mike
He went from the number one overall to like twentieth He had a horrible season.
00:55:40
Mike
I get it. get it. I get it.
00:55:42
Trio of Positivity
Can I ask you guys, though, when you because you get normally this is mostly snake draft and and keepers are kind of we don't we kind of don't discuss it. Is McCaffrey still a keeper?
00:55:54
Bhupen
It wasn't in our league.
00:55:55
Mike
it It depends on the definition of a keeper, Chris. like Your league's definition of a keeper is you just get to pick keep any player on your team. If you're keeping any player on your team, Christian McCaffrey is keeper. 100%.
00:56:07
Mike
hundred percent
00:56:09
Trio of Positivity
and That's the mindset that I'm in where if you can label a player keeper, especially running backs, then I think that's a first round pick no matter what.
00:56:09
Bhupen
Like...
00:56:18
Mike
the The bottom line is when it comes to the 49ers, they have extreme running back concerns and they have extreme wide receiver concerns. Right now, they basically have two healthy individuals, and that's Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle.
00:56:33
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:56:33
Mike
So they're going to get a lot of work.
00:56:35
Bhupen
Exactly.
00:56:35
Mike
and if he and And he's is still a stud.
00:56:40
Mike
I mean, two years ago, he was like the best running back in football.
00:56:40
Bhupen
I mean... i mean three
00:56:43
Mike
So he's absolutely a keeper.
00:56:44
Bhupen
I mean, realistically, Chris, we I know we are saying lots of big names, but you'll probably have one of these guys on your team. If you have a B. John, you probably have Christian McCaffrey. Or if you have a Christian McCaffrey, you probably won't have Saquon, right? So, yes, looking at this list, Christian McCaffrey may like stand out. But on your team, if you have one of these running backs, Christian McCaffrey absolutely a keeper.
00:57:05
Bhupen
That's the answer to your question, I think.
00:57:07
Trio of Positivity
Right. No, that's. And like I said, I know that for some of the other leagues where you pay the player, I forgot what it's called. um
00:57:13
Bhupen
ah Auction?
00:57:14
Trio of Positivity
Auction. um People will drive up prices and stuff like that. So snake is usually the snake. 12 is usually the right format.
00:57:21
Bhupen
Thank you.
00:57:23
Trio of Positivity
And from some of the mocks that I've seen, I have seen McCaffrey go second round.
00:57:28
Bhupen
Yeah, i it there's lots of variance.
00:57:29
Mike
You shouldn't.
00:57:30
Bhupen
like Early on, he was probably going much early like quicker, too. But like I think like it'll probably end up, like it'll probably like balance out and it'll probably be like late first, is my opinion.
00:57:35
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
00:57:40
Bhupen
But the third tier is high ceiling.
00:57:40
Mike
Yeah.
00:57:43
Bhupen
um you know Chase Brown with the Cincinnati, Kyron Williams with the Rams, James Cook with Buffalo, Kenneth Walker with Seattle, Like, um young-ish players, like, you know, proven players, they've done it before.
00:57:58
Bhupen
um Lots of promise. um Kenneth Walker, especially, some injury concern, but Jesus, if he hits, like, you are happy you have him in your team. ah Tier 4, potential stars, high upside, Alvin Kamara, I know, lots of baggage there.
00:58:13
Bhupen
Chubba Hubbard with Carolina. Omerion Hampton with the Chargers there. Gotta keep an eye out on all these new rookies. I had to familiarize myself with some of these names.
00:58:25
Bhupen
He's a brand new rookie, but looks like he will have the lion's share of the carries. Najee Harris is supposed to be his backup, but like don't think he's going do much. um The last tier, tier six, is mostly committee-backed Swainey.
00:58:41
Mike
There are five.
00:58:43
Bhupen
Sorry, Tier 5. My bad. Thank you. Tier 5. This committee backs some deeper sleepers. um Denver, really good situation, but there's probably two different names to for you to monitor. RJ Harvey and J.K. Dobbins.
00:58:55
Bhupen
Caleb Johnson and Jalen Warren are both in the run for Pittsburgh. Travion Henderson and Ramondre Stevenson are in play for New England. And DeAndre Swift, the sole running back, the only running back we need in Chicago.
00:59:10
Bhupen
They all like kind of round up the top five tiers of the quarterback of the running backs this year in fantasy, in my opinion. um I'm going to hop on to tight ends next, but tier four.
00:59:19
Mike
So many issues with that. No, you're not. Okay. So first of all, you forgot, um, James Connor. This probably deserves to be mentioned. Uh, tier six is awful.
00:59:31
Mike
RJ Harvey is probably the route to go with Denver. JK Dobbins, it appears is going to take the backup role.
00:59:40
Mike
Did you like skip tier five? Is that what you did on this list?
00:59:44
Bhupen
Is there some?
00:59:44
Trio of Positivity
Someone's not paying attention.
00:59:46
Bhupen
ah
00:59:46
Mike
No, I am, but just like he went from round three or four with potential starters to round six to eight. Like, where's tier fours? Five. Because like Trayvon Henderson and Ramondre Stevenson, Trayvon Henderson and Ramondre Stevenson shouldn't be named in the same sentence.
00:59:57
Bhupen
I want to make sure you're paying attention. You pass.
01:00:03
Mike
The Pittsburgh running backs both suck. David Montgomery's not on this list. Brees Hall isn't on this list. Aaron Jones isn't on this list. Like there's a lot of players that aren't on this list, so I'm wondering what the fuck did you do?
01:00:17
Bhupen
Good, but I want to make sure you guys are paying attention. Tier 5 is listening. James Conner, Adam on there. That's the entire Tier 5 right there.
01:00:24
Mike
Guys, tier five. We're talking about – oh, sorry, Boobin. This is my spot, right? This is where you wanted me to come in. Tier five, guys. Potential starters, running back twos, potential.
01:00:36
Mike
We have James Conner from Arizona. Should see a bounce back. We have David Montgomery, who's in a high-powered rushing ah offense in Detroit. Brees Hall, there's a lot of question marks going on, what's going on with the New York Jets, but he should still get a lot of dump downs from Justin Field because we know he doesn't throw the ball past 10 yards.
01:00:55
Mike
And then finally, Aaron Jones from the Minnesota Vikings. Keep your eye on them. Tier 5, there you go. You're looking at around 5, maybe early 6 with those guys.
01:01:05
Bhupen
All right. Thanks, bro. um All right. um Tight
01:01:05
Mike
Got you, boo.
Fantasy Football Tight End Analysis
01:01:10
Bhupen
ends. um Let's hop on there quickly.
01:01:12
Mike
Oh, one one thing. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is bad. This is bad. i get it. One thing I want to mention before we leave the running backs is the Washington Redskins, Washington Commanders.
01:01:24
Mike
team is we've just got a lot of news in regards to Brian Robinson Jr. He was tabbed as the starting running back for the Washington Commanders.
01:01:36
Mike
He is now, i think he asked to get traded, but they are actively trying to trade Brian Robinson Jr. He is probably on his way out from that team.
01:01:46
Mike
So keep in mind the second string there is going to be Austin equi Eckler. So when you are drafting, stay away from Brian Robinson unless you see news.
01:01:57
Mike
Focus on Austin Eckler. He could be a huge sleeper for your team. There's also a few other guys on that team that may hit. But Austin Eckler is the guy to have in Washington. Keep that in mind moving forward.
01:02:13
Bhupen
Thank you. Thank you, Miller, for doing all my homework for me.
01:02:15
Mike
You're welcome.
01:02:17
Bhupen
um Tight ends. Hopefully I got this list correct. It's a shorter list, so hopefully...
01:02:22
Mike
Probably not.
01:02:24
Bhupen
uh the top tier the elite game changers are brock bowers from the vegas trey mcbride from arizona and george kittle from san francisco um you know most of these teams have limited patch casters these people are like ppr monsters they'll get the catches like yards plenty um touchdowns are coming but not as much so like but again You don't have to worry about them. Plug him, like draft him. You're good for the year in this tier. The second one is solid starters with upside.
01:02:57
Bhupen
ah This includes Sam LaPorta from Detroit. Travis Kelsey from kenns Kansas City, ah he probably got bumped up a little bit high with the Rashi Rice uncertainty.
01:03:08
Bhupen
TJ Hawkinson from Minnesota is up here again. um you know um to be completely honest and hang on To be completely honest with you, like after the top tier of tight ends, it's basically free for all.
01:03:14
Mike
Okay.
01:03:22
Bhupen
But Miller, what do you got?
01:03:24
Mike
um The one person to keep an eye on for everybody that's doing snake drafts right now is George Kittle. In a lot of places, he is sneaking into the fourth round.
01:03:36
Mike
And as I just mentioned, the San Francisco Niners are having issues with wide receivers and running backs being healthy. George Kittle is going to get a lot of work. So if you can get him in the fourth, you need to pick him up immediately.
01:03:51
Mike
Bowers and McBride are taking a risk because they're looking at late second, early third. So you're going to have to take a risk with them. But George Kittle seems to found his way to the fourth. I don't know if he's still there.
01:04:02
Mike
But if you can get him in the fourth, snag him immediately. Other than that, it's good list.
01:04:09
Bhupen
Tier 3, good option with some uncertainty. Mark Andrews with Baltimore. um he They have another tight end that they like to use sometimes. David Njoku with Cleveland. That's rising up the boards after the Joe Flacco news.
01:04:23
Bhupen
Evan Ingram moved teams. He's with Denver now. Bo Nix gets another option. um We're hoping that that does better for him fantasy-wise than last season. The last tier for the top 12 tight ends would be potential breakouts, deep league options.
01:04:39
Bhupen
Tucker Craft, Green Bay, lots of people are high on him. He had an injury riddled season last season, but when he was on the field, he had a good connection with Joan Love. So Tyler Warren with Indy Colts, again, uncertainty quarterback, lots of pass catchers there, but Warren has been one consistent name that's been good in the camp so far, and our own Colts and Loveland.
01:05:03
Bhupen
um Like, unclear between him and Komet was he won Titan 1, Titan 2, but like Miller was saying, they both played and they both looked good in the preseason game. So someone to keep an eye on um if if you're drafting You're kind of punting or like drafting late for your tight ends.
01:05:23
Mike
Yeah, so one thing I would say if you're looking for a PPR, I would focus on within these group, look at David Njoku and Evan Ingram.
01:05:34
Mike
Both of them should catch a lot of balls. Evan Ingram has historically, obviously he has his injury concerns. Potential breakouts, good list there. Tucker Craft probably leads the way there. Probably a little more consistent than the two rookies.
01:05:49
Mike
Tyler Warren, you don't know. He's going go as far as Daniel Jones can carry him. And Colston Loveland, we don't know what this offense is going to be. But outside of that, the one person that I'm very disappointed that you didn't mention.
01:06:03
Mike
Dude, come man. You're not even going to give some Kyle Pitts love. Let's
01:06:10
Bhupen
Some people were hurt last year if by him. Hurt real bad
01:06:13
Mike
who hasn't been Who hasn't been hurt by Kyle Pitts? But I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what happens. Pennix says that he's going to get the ball out. so but know
01:06:22
Bhupen
Like, um they did say ah Falcons who were, like, basically created to score points. That's how the teams created. So, um definitely a good shout out there. But if you're...
01:06:31
Mike
You can get these guys late.
01:06:31
Bhupen
if you're
01:06:33
Mike
You can get them late.
01:06:34
Bhupen
if you have If you have a strong heart, draft him.
Bears vs. Chiefs Preseason Game Discussion
01:06:37
Bhupen
um We can skip over the injury news. They like nothing. We touched the big ones. There's not much to go last year. We'll probably do a more um thorough one next week, but hopefully less to talk about about the Bears next week.
01:06:49
Bhupen
But um let's talk about
01:06:50
Mike
Hopefully there's more to talk about about the berries.
01:06:53
Bhupen
um Let's talk about Bears. Let's talk about more Bears. um this This week, we we play at Kansas City on Friday night, 7-20, another primetime game for us. um Interesting enough, Andy Reid said starters would play for him in the final preseason game, which has never been the case.
01:07:11
Bhupen
um Patrick Mahomes played week one, so he didn't play in week two, including a lot of starters, and they are playing in week three, so that's interesting. um Our coach Ben Johnson's also said he would play starters.
01:07:22
Bhupen
Neither coach was clear about how long they would play but that was interesting. um But yeah, that just want to set that up for you guys. What are you looking for um in the third preseason game? Any expectations?
01:07:35
Mike
Chris, you haven't talked in a while. You can talk.
01:07:38
Bhupen
Yeah.
01:07:39
Trio of Positivity
um Honestly, I have no expectations for week three. um i'm I'm more interested on what's going to happen with the roster cuts and stuff like that.
01:07:51
Trio of Positivity
I think it's really just going to depend on and how we continue to see the offense. I'm comfortable with what we saw in week two. That's enough to get me into the regular season. I think it's a Friday night game, too.
01:08:04
Bhupen
Yeah, Friday night, 7.20.
01:08:06
Trio of Positivity
Yeah.
01:08:08
Bhupen
Friday night, prime time.
01:08:08
Mike
Can't wait to hear next week when Caleb throws an interception and he's all on all on his ass. Fucking shit.
01:08:14
Trio of Positivity
Listen, there's there's there' are certain things that you just have to expect.
01:08:15
Mike
I'm fucking full of shit. Yeah,
01:08:20
Mike
yeah i know I know.
01:08:20
Bhupen
Hey, just like you you expect just like you expect the second O-lineman to start, he expects his quarterback to be perfect, you know?
01:08:21
Mike
I know how this game works.
01:08:28
Mike
No, I expect a second-round old lineman drafted to be the left tackle to perform better than he did. um Going to the expectations this game, like we talked about earlier, let's see a smooth operation. Let's see Caleb getting the ball out. It's probably not going to look as good as it did this last week, let's be honest.
01:08:47
Mike
But we want to see him getting the ball out. Crisp, decisive, defensive. Not taking sacks, no delay of game penalties, smooth operation, the whole nine yards. I guess it would be two series again, probably.
01:09:00
Mike
I wish he would play more. i do. But Ben Johnson said he just wants to get these guys experience in a road situation. um So that's kind of why they are going to be playing to kind of get them ready.
01:09:13
Mike
for a road environment to go through the nine yards bullshit. So we'll see what happens. Who knows? I mean, if they come out and gun slinging again against the ones next week, I might have my shirt off.
01:09:27
Mike
Let's be real, baby.
01:09:29
Bhupen
um Neither of you, like, um I mean, Millie, you hit this, but week three preseason, the last week of preseason started starting. Like, that's not the standard, right? Like, is that something we are yeah doing differently this year? Any any thoughts there before we wrap up?
Evolving NFL Preseason Strategies
01:09:48
Mike
I don't think there is a standard, to be honest. I think the standard...
01:09:50
Trio of Positivity
Oh, shut the fuck up.
01:09:52
Mike
You're not even letting finish, dude.
01:09:54
Bhupen
Oh, do know it feels now?
01:09:55
Trio of Positivity
Oh, look at that. Now he knows how we felt the whole fucking episode.
01:09:59
Bhupen
Chris, go ahead, please.
01:09:59
Mike
Nope. I actually have good points. You guys don't. So like when it had when it came, keep in mind, this is what? The fourth, fifth season of this schedule.
01:10:10
Mike
So before this schedule, we had what? 60 years of the same fucking shit about that. Probably a little shorter than that, but whatever. But it was very consistent. The first game, no starters played. Second game's a little bit played. Third game's pretty much a half plus played.
01:10:27
Mike
And then the fourth game, all starters sat. That's what they did. All the teams did it. I heard Dave Wonstadt talk about this earlier today. That's why I'm so sharp on point, even though I'm a glass of whiskey in.
01:10:38
Mike
But like be in right now, like we've only had a handful of seasons where these guys have experimented with three games. So I don't think there is a right way. throughout the league. And I think everybody's trying to figure out what works and what doesn't to best get their people ready. So I think the way Ben Johnson did it I'm not the hugest fan. would have loved to see Caleb in that first game as well and kind of get two series each game to get comfortable in this offense. But obviously that's not going to happen. But I don't think the third game is comparative to that fourth game because you've got to remember after this third game, they have
01:11:18
Mike
ah pretty much two weeks until they're playing again. So that's a long break to not play football, especially if you play them in week two and not in week three.
01:11:28
Bhupen
Yeah, like I think I sort of got at a point. No, I think it's it's interesting to see um because it's what
NFL Draft Success Rates Exploration
01:11:39
Bhupen
15 days to kick off. I think they just want to make sure, you know, that I sharp. They're probably working on very specific things is what what my thing was.
01:11:46
Bhupen
um not the full answer to our question, Miller, but um on average, about 33% of the players drafted in the second round in the NFL draft develop into solid NFL starters over their career is what Google had to say.
01:12:01
Bhupen
I asked specifically about O-line, D-line, um and they're Second round success rate is seems to be unclear, but they define success as being starters in some point in their career.
01:12:12
Bhupen
So more research to go into that. But i just want to give you a preview of my research.
01:12:16
Mike
You realize that like the first round is like 50%, right?
01:12:20
Bhupen
Is it really? Well, I thought, but you, you said like, if you're first starting, you're starting.
01:12:21
Mike
It's not very good.
01:12:25
Bhupen
So I assume it was like, a hundred percent, but all right, people.
01:12:25
Mike
You should be a starter. If you're not a starter, you're a bust. If you're first round pick and you're not a starter, you're a bust.
01:12:33
Bhupen
Okay, on that positive, positive note, Chris, cue the music.
Episode Conclusion and Listener Engagement
01:12:37
Trio of Positivity
Yes, sir.
01:12:39
Bhupen
People, thank you for listening on this beautiful, beautiful day where I had to, like, quash your hopes for the Super Bowl. I'm sorry about that. I'm so positive about Caleb, I promise you. and just don't want to float that high just yet.
01:12:52
Bhupen
But we hope that you'll hit and like and subscribe and give us feedback because we love you. And it's good night.
01:12:59
Mike
We are currently in the market for two podcast hosts. Thank you.