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Season 3 - Episode 1 - Here We Go Again

S3 E1 ยท Trio of Positivity Podcast
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The boys are back! We start to look at the 2025 NFL season as a whole and begin to narrow our focus to the new look Chicago Bears!

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Podcast Introduction and NFL Season Excitement

00:00:02
Bhupen
Don't give me notes right now.
00:00:18
Bhupen
Yeah, baby! we are back! NFL is back! Eh, kind of physically. Technically, we had a game this week.
00:00:28
Mike
You're supposed to shut it off, dude. Geez.
00:00:29
Bhupen
What the fuck?
00:00:29
Trio of Positivity
Oh, my bad, bro.
00:00:30
Mike
Wow.
00:00:31
Trio of Positivity
My bad.
00:00:31
Mike
didn't have technical difficulties on our first show.
00:00:34
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, it's not like we were here for 45 fucking minutes.
00:00:34
Bhupen
We are
00:00:36
Trio of Positivity
Sorry, go ahead, Boopin.
00:00:37
Bhupen
we we are in our technical. No, we are in our offseason, too, Chris. It's fine. It's totally cool.
00:00:43
Trio of Positivity
ah
00:00:44
Bhupen
um But, yeah, we are back. Hopefully, you guys had a good offseason. NFL is back. um The Bears played this weekend. So, we thought a big good time to get back on. Talk a little, Bears. Bring you guys up to speed.
00:00:56
Bhupen
Just share with you what what we've been up to this offseason. As always, I'm your co-host, BooPan. I got my boys with me. Boys, say what's up.
00:01:05
Trio of Positivity
Howdy.
00:01:06
Mike
Hi. Peace.

Social Media and Technical Hiccups

00:01:11
Bhupen
Miller's going Asian run-offs for some reason. But that's okay.
00:01:15
Mike
Hey.
00:01:15
Bhupen
ah
00:01:16
Mike
hey Hey, my boys were already on YouTube official, so they're basically streamers.
00:01:22
Bhupen
I don't know what that is. I'll Google that shortly. Chris, take over.
00:01:24
Mike
I sent you the video.
00:01:25
Trio of Positivity
ah Yeah.
00:01:26
Bhupen
Oh, they were.
00:01:27
Trio of Positivity
um
00:01:27
Bhupen
They were. and did see that.
00:01:30
Trio of Positivity
It's his kid, so it's allowed.
00:01:33
Bhupen
Awesome. um We got quite a long show for you, so we'll we'll get started.
00:01:38
Mike
Short show.
00:01:38
Bhupen
i don't
00:01:38
Mike
Short show. Okay. Short show.
00:01:41
Bhupen
said that just to my Miller. um Before we start, we ah we do this every week. I don't know if you guys want to start here. um How's the offseason been for you? Anything you want to talk about right off the bat? Anything big you want to share before we jump into the actual agenda of the show?
00:01:55
Bhupen
Okay.
00:01:57
Trio of Positivity
I'm not a college dropout anymore. That's basically the biggest news. And I'm going to get possibly more, but we'll see.

NFL Team Changes and Fantasy Implications

00:02:07
Bhupen
Nice.
00:02:07
Mike
No, we're going to get possibly more.
00:02:10
Trio of Positivity
Oh, we'll see.
00:02:11
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:02:11
Bhupen
and but Hey, it's it's worth it. It's investing on you. Worth it.
00:02:11
Trio of Positivity
It's expensive.
00:02:17
Trio of Positivity
That is true.
00:02:17
Mike
Exactly.
00:02:20
Bhupen
Miller, where you at?
00:02:21
Mike
Nothing. Just go.
00:02:24
Bhupen
Awesome. um Yeah, it'll be a fun season, fun, fancy season. I feel like the top cream layer of the NFL, the four or five teams that are good, looks like they'll be good again.
00:02:35
Bhupen
um But I think in the middle, um it'll be a lot of teams that there's lot of hope. This is the hope season, right? lot of hope. So the middle part of the NFL might make it interesting. The wild card, some of the division winners might be interesting. That's one thing I wanted to bring up.
00:02:51
Bhupen
But since we are trying to get the crew up and running, the the listeners up and running with all the changes in the NFL, I thought it might be a good idea, boys.
00:03:02
Bhupen
You know I love doing this. I will share with you, okay, some of the changes that have come. I've grouped them by like position. So there's quarterbacks, there's wide receivers, coaches.
00:03:13
Bhupen
Just throw it to you. If you have any reactions, if you think one will be more significant than the other, just throw it out there, okay?
00:03:20
Trio of Positivity
um Before we start, I can still tell you're in the off season mood.
00:03:23
Bhupen
Yes, sir.
00:03:26
Trio of Positivity
um You forgot the key important thing before we do anything.
00:03:32
Bhupen
Social plug?
00:03:33
Trio of Positivity
There it is. I'm
00:03:34
Bhupen
Nice. Do we have a TikTok yet?
00:03:38
Trio of Positivity
pretty sure it's still banned, but just plug it in there anyway.
00:03:41
Bhupen
Boys, you can find us on Facebook on the Trio of Positivity Podcast. We are at X at Trio Positivity. We have a YouTube channel, Trio of Positivity Podcast.
00:03:52
Bhupen
And like I said, TikTok is questionable.
00:03:53
Trio of Positivity
Tick tock.
00:03:56
Bhupen
We do have a blog that Chris supposedly is writing articles for this season.
00:04:00
Mike
Actually, i don't know if that was renewed.
00:04:00
Trio of Positivity
which I accidentally actually it was accidentally renewed. It took the last of my took the last of $120 that I had in my account, but it renewed.
00:04:13
Bhupen
Man, we'd someone keep a running tab on how much money you spend on this.
00:04:15
Trio of Positivity
We were we were supposed to cancel it.
00:04:18
Mike
You were supposed to cancel it.
00:04:18
Trio of Positivity
Someone someone in this group, I'm not pointing fingers, someone in this group forgot to deselect the auto renew.
00:04:25
Bhupen
You're blaming yourself, I'm hoping?
00:04:25
Trio of Positivity
ah i don't listen, I'm not pointing at anyone.
00:04:27
Bhupen
All right, good. um Since you're not pointing at anyone, let's move on. um Like I said,
00:04:33
Trio of Positivity
We better fucking use it as it cost me a fucking hundred and twenty dollars.
00:04:36
Bhupen
I will. I will. I promise I will. we'll We'll get some content out there. um But like I was saying, thank you, Chris, a reminder. um Definitely in the offseason mode here. um You know, don't want to take a lot of time, but kind of want to bring people up to speed.
00:04:50
Bhupen
There was a good amount of changes in like quarterbacks, some big name wide receivers on the move. So i thought it'd be a good idea to kind of group them together, throw it to you guys, get your quick thoughts on it, and we'll move on. Okay.
00:05:02
Bhupen
Let's start with the quarterbacks.
00:05:02
Trio of Positivity
Sounds good.
00:05:04
Bhupen
you know, that's where everyone thinks starts and ends. um Russell Wilson is with the Giants now. Sam Darnold is with the Seahawks. Geno Smith moved over to the Raiders because, you know, Sam Darnold took his pace.
00:05:16
Bhupen
Justin Fields, our, you know, last open savior, is with the Jets. And Daniel Jones is with the Colts. The last one is just for John. I'm sorry. That was secondary news. But Among the five, do you see anything working out amazingly? Anyone taking that leap?
00:05:34
Bhupen
Anyone relevant for fantasy even? Any thoughts? If you have no thoughts, we can move on to.
00:05:38
Trio of Positivity
For me, it's Fields. I think that's the only one that has the most upside. Sam Darnold is probably second. See, he's doing the thing again.
00:05:48
Trio of Positivity
If you're watching on video, Miller's doing the thing again where he forgets he's on video and just starts mouthing words.
00:05:52
Mike
No, I'm not. I just didn't want to say it. i wanted to But I guess I will.
00:05:55
Trio of Positivity
Just say it.
00:05:56
Mike
Get off your knees, you little bitch.
00:05:58
Trio of Positivity
i will We'll find out where your knees are at, brother.
00:06:00
Mike
Yeah, we will find out. Fucking Justin Fields.
00:06:02
Bhupen
ah we All right, all right.
00:06:02
Trio of Positivity
But in all seriousness...
00:06:04
Mike
Justin Fields.
00:06:05
Trio of Positivity
and all In all seriousness, Justin Fields should have a better time with the Jets than he did it with the Bears.
00:06:11
Mike
Oh, come on. Give me a fucking break.
00:06:14
Bhupen
i
00:06:15
Bhupen
There was a lot of positivity ah posivity around the Jets, Miller. Like, Justin Fields...
00:06:15
Mike
If he gets benched...
00:06:20
Mike
Have you watched recently? Because you have you don't pay attention to our group chat anymore. Because Fields is like 7 for 30 with like 4 interceptions and We're not talking about the Bears.
00:06:28
Bhupen
I know.
00:06:31
Bhupen
I didn't say...
00:06:31
Trio of Positivity
Wait, are we really talking about...
00:06:33
Bhupen
I didn't say he has learned how to throw.
00:06:34
Trio of Positivity
Caleb Williams couldn't hit the fucking net. He threw a ball and hit the fucking ground.
00:06:37
Bhupen
dude I'm not saying.
00:06:39
Mike
We're not talking about the Bears. We're talking about your Lord and Savior.
00:06:40
Trio of Positivity
Okay, I'll save that one again. I'll repeat that one when we get there. Go ahead, then.
00:06:43
Mike
We were talking about your Lauren Servier, Justin Fields.
00:06:43
Bhupen
Okay.
00:06:46
Mike
The bottom line is he still can't throw down the middle of the field. Never could. All he has is is an arm and his legs. So is he fantasy relevant? Of course he's fantasy relevant because he's going to run a lot. The Jets are going to suck.
00:06:57
Mike
they want They want the high draft pick. Fields is not going to be good. and None of those... Geno Smith is the only one that has a shot because he's with um ah Pete Carroll and with the Raiders.
00:07:07
Bhupen
Okay.
00:07:08
Trio of Positivity
Also, I'm surprised you didn't put Rodgers to Steelers on this list.
00:07:08
Mike
But...
00:07:12
Bhupen
that That was way late. Chad G.
00:07:14
Mike
He forgot that.
00:07:14
Bhupen
Brady didn't get that far. It's only up to like ah two months ago news.
00:07:18
Trio of Positivity
Jesus.
00:07:20
Bhupen
But um i I was going to say, um um i think Jets over-under is like five and a half. I think that's ah that might be an easy over.
00:07:29
Trio of Positivity
That's fair.
00:07:30
Bhupen
Yeah, that's an easy over.
00:07:31
Mike
An easy over? Jesus Christ, you're on your knees too.
00:07:32
Bhupen
I think it is.
00:07:35
Mike
My God.
00:07:36
Trio of Positivity
but miller Miller, of all the names,
00:07:37
Bhupen
It's got nothing to do with field. I think there's lots of positivity around that team.
00:07:43
Trio of Positivity
Miller, of all the names on that quarterback list that we just talked about, who do you think is the best the best like stock mover here?
00:07:51
Mike
What does that mean?
00:07:51
Trio of Positivity
It has to be Field. like who
00:07:53
Mike
What does that mean?
00:07:54
Trio of Positivity
who Who gives the best upside to them?
00:07:56
Mike
So not the guy that just went 13 and four. You don't think Sam Darnold?
00:07:59
Trio of Positivity
Team. That's a team game, too. It's a team game. Let's not say it's not.
00:08:02
Mike
It is a team game, but
00:08:03
Bhupen
I mean, he's sucked for six years before that, so why don't we take account of that too?
00:08:03
Trio of Positivity
So...
00:08:07
Mike
so is Fields. At least he has one good season under his belt. I'm just saying, calm down.
00:08:13
Trio of Positivity
So you're saying Darnold over, Darnold over fields right now.
00:08:14
Mike
Okay.
00:08:17
Trio of Positivity
Or Jones over field.
00:08:18
Mike
What does that even mean?
00:08:20
Trio of Positivity
Who has the better upside right now?
00:08:22
Bhupen
Yeah, we'll love a better season.
00:08:25
Mike
I think they're all going to suck.
00:08:27
Trio of Positivity
He doesn't understand the question.
00:08:27
Mike
They're all shitty quarterbacks.
00:08:28
Bhupen
All right. On that positive note,
00:08:31
Trio of Positivity
Move on, boobin.
00:08:32
Mike
I don't want to take Darnold over Fields because I don't think either of them are very good.
00:08:37
Bhupen
All right, wide receivers on the move. Hopefully this brings out positivity from you, Miller. um Stephon Diggs is now with the Patriots. Devontae is a Ram. Cooper Cup moved over to Seattle.
00:08:48
Bhupen
um Christian Kirk is a Texan. DK Metcalf is a Steeler. um Again, probably some better names than the quarterback. A bit higher tier than them for sure.
00:08:59
Bhupen
um Same question. Any significant ones? Anyone moves a needle for you one way or the other?
00:09:05
Trio of Positivity
Metcalf all day.
00:09:07
Bhupen
That's huge.
00:09:10
Mike
Yeah, but they still have a 44-year-old throwing him the quarterback.
00:09:14
Bhupen
That's true. But, um you know, my Metcalf, like looking at AJ Brown, how he moved from Titans to League.
00:09:20
Mike
Okay, calm down. Calm down. He was like 22 when he... 23 when he moved. Quite different. Metcalf's old.
00:09:28
Trio of Positivity
Don't let him get to you, Boobin. Don't let him get to you.
00:09:31
Mike
Metcalf has been on some stellar fucking wide receiver course.
00:09:36
Bhupen
It's stellar. He had one with Luck.
00:09:38
Mike
Tyler Lockett?
00:09:39
Bhupen
He had Luckett with him. Okay.
00:09:41
Mike
Lockett, younger, was really good, and he had GSN and last year.
00:09:41
Bhupen
He did? Okay. Fair enough. um You know, that's what I wanted more than anything. The last one, um the coaches that moved.

Contract Negotiations and Player Management Strategies

00:09:53
Bhupen
Miller already re brought one.
00:09:54
Bhupen
um Jaguars have a new head coach, Liam Cohen. The Raiders have Pete Carroll, like we talked about. Patriots have Mike Bravell now. Jets have Aaron Glenn. Saints have Kellen Moore.
00:10:06
Bhupen
Um, any, any news you've heard that like kind of, again, helps you root for one team or maybe hate the other team or, you know, vice versa, anything there stand out to you?
00:10:17
Mike
Shitty coaches and shitty teams.
00:10:21
Trio of Positivity
I don't know. Pete Carroll kicking someone out of the team because they kiss someone on the forehead is nuts.
00:10:26
Bhupen
That, that's an interesting story. Um, supposedly, supposedly, supposedly he was not rehabbing properly and that story was,
00:10:29
Trio of Positivity
Allegedly.
00:10:31
Mike
Allegedly.
00:10:35
Bhupen
planted for Adam Schefter to like share.
00:10:37
Trio of Positivity
Allegedly.
00:10:40
Bhupen
Again, lots going on there. But um I think, um again, some positive news, and it happens probably most offseason, is Jaguars head coach Liam Cohen is doing some good stuff in there, I've heard.
00:10:51
Bhupen
don't know. That might be a team to look out for, especially in that weak division right there.
00:10:55
Trio of Positivity
I think a lot of the head coaches, especially our new head coach, you're going to see a lot more news coming out of the new head coaches than anything else. So I like Vrabel's already made news.
00:11:06
Mike
so
00:11:06
Trio of Positivity
Glenn's made news. Collins made news. Carol's made news. So it's like does it doesn't mean that they're to good year. where
00:11:13
Bhupen
Yeah, no, actually.
00:11:14
Trio of Positivity
It's irrelevant at this point.
00:11:15
Bhupen
I mean, like they they have lots to do, like here, right? Culture and everything. Okay, the last one, and probably the most important one, if we want to talk about it.
00:11:19
Trio of Positivity
Mm hmm.
00:11:24
Bhupen
um The trading camps are happening right now, but there's some very intriguing player situations happening. um Most you want to know if you think any of these players will, like, the holdout will go into the season, or they might get traded.
00:11:36
Bhupen
I know the chances are very slim, but between Micah Parsons with the Cowboys, Terry McLaren with the command... manders uh james cook with the bills um trey hendrickson with the bangles and juan jennings with the 49ers that's like the last two are probably solved at this point but you see any of these playmakers moving teams um you know maybe the holdout goes into the season because they are currently not practicing with their teams
00:12:04
Trio of Positivity
I have a question, though. Are they still getting fined?
00:12:09
Bhupen
yeah oh
00:12:09
Mike
No, because they're holding in.
00:12:11
Trio of Positivity
So.
00:12:13
Mike
They don't get fined.
00:12:14
Bhupen
if they hold in.
00:12:15
Mike
Yeah.
00:12:15
Bhupen
But it was hefty, too. It was like 800,000 or something.
00:12:18
Mike
Yeah. So they don't get fined. No. um Do I see anything happening? Realistically, no, I don't see anything happening.
00:12:24
Trio of Positivity
I think Parsons comes back to play. ah There's.
00:12:27
Mike
I think i think Parsons gets paid. Yeah.
00:12:29
Bhupen
I feel like Cowboys do this every season, right?
00:12:29
Trio of Positivity
I don't know if he gets paid.
00:12:31
Bhupen
that They did that with Dak.
00:12:32
Mike
and
00:12:32
Bhupen
They did that with...
00:12:33
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but Jerry Jones doesn't say that um his court or his wide receiver got more cheers than Parsons or something like that when they were saying pay the man. um Something verbatim.
00:12:44
Trio of Positivity
It wasn't right.
00:12:44
Mike
She's an idiot.
00:12:46
Trio of Positivity
So like you don't say that and then expect Parsons to come back and be like, well, I want to be one of the highest paid like that's that's already no go.
00:12:54
Mike
It's all... He already said what Parsons did was negotiation when he wrote his Twitter post or whatever he did. So it's all... He's playing the game. It's all he's doing, Chris.
00:13:03
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but if you're doubling down on that, you don't you don't play unless you want to play, what, three weeks before the trade deadline? Like, there's no win in that.
00:13:11
Mike
yeah You...
00:13:11
Trio of Positivity
There's there's no one
00:13:12
Bhupen
like I mean...
00:13:12
Mike
You... and I don't foresee very many players holding out and not playing games anymore. Look at our, look at what we've seen in the past. We saw Le'Veon Bell. He did it for a whole season.
00:13:24
Mike
He's, he was done after that. You saw what's his name for the giants do it last year or whatever. He was basically done. The pass rusher forgot his name, basically done. He's a, he's irrelevant. Oh, Hassan Redick.
00:13:36
Mike
He was like one of the best for the Eagles.
00:13:36
Bhupen
Oh, yeah. Jets. Jets.
00:13:38
Bhupen
Jets, yeah.
00:13:39
Mike
Then he went to the Jets.
00:13:40
Mike
He did the holdout thing. And now he's a nobody. Like these guys' careers are so short. You cannot do that anymore. What you got to do is you just got to suck it up and play. That's what these owners want.
00:13:51
Mike
That's what you got to do.
00:13:51
Bhupen
I...
00:13:52
Mike
And then you move on.
00:13:54
Bhupen
That's an interesting point. Remember Jamar Chase was a hold-in last year? you know, didn't attend the whole camp. And then Bengals started slow. And then at the end, right, they they were like playing every game as a must win.
00:14:06
Bhupen
So even though there's like no probably significant ah way to track this, but there is an impact. So Cowboys right now, right, they have have some positive momentum. They have a lot of things going for them. Why not pay the man and then have this guy in your camp while having some positive momentum in team?
00:14:22
Bhupen
Possibly helping you win that extra game or two now. So like later in the year, you're not chasing down wins. I figured it'd be because you will end up paying this man. Like it may be like a million short or a million more. But like I feel like that positive buzz you can great get from like him having there and practicing with the team.
00:14:40
Bhupen
I feel like that's the only thing that's a downside here.
00:14:43
Trio of Positivity
But Miller, I don't know if you to say something.
00:14:43
Mike
ah
00:14:45
Trio of Positivity
I just i was going to ask a question to the group, but go ahead, Miller.
00:14:49
Mike
So a lot of people speculate that this is just Jerry Jones wanting to get clicks. Because he's been doing this.
00:14:56
Bhupen
He does this every year.
00:14:57
Bhupen
Every year.
00:14:57
Mike
He's been doing this a lot.
00:14:59
Mike
He's done it with Dak. He's done it with Zeke. He's done it with CD.
00:15:03
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:15:03
Mike
And every year he's gotten fucked royally by not paying these guys. So a lot of people are speculating that it's just strictly he wants to be in the news. He wants the Cowboys in the news.
00:15:14
Mike
So he lets these people do it because he losing he's losing millions of dollars. Like he should have realistically Parsons was the best player last year. He was probably the best defensive player the year before.
00:15:25
Mike
Like he's top three for sure. So why not pay him early and then not have to deal with it to your point? And it's just like, it's stupid this way that he runs his business, but whatever.
00:15:34
Trio of Positivity
so So I'm glad you brought that up because and this was going to be my question. um And I purposely waited till we all started talking because I was going to do it on the group chat, but I feel like I was going to get ignored like usual.
00:15:43
Mike
I don't ever ignore you when you're smart.
00:15:43
Trio of Positivity
um
00:15:46
Trio of Positivity
Are we at the point that it's not about money anymore and it's about years on contracts?
00:15:50
Mike
No, it's always about money.
00:15:51
Bhupen
it I feel like it's it's about guaranteed money now.
00:15:54
Trio of Positivity
but it's shorter it's But it's shorter years with the guarantees. That's what I'm saying.
00:15:59
Mike
me It's only shorter years when the money, when they're older.
00:16:03
Bhupen
Yeah, a the past row search.
00:16:04
Mike
If they're in their first contract, they want five years. Most of these guys get five years.
00:16:08
Trio of Positivity
But most of the renewals that I've seen has been like three years guaranteed. And then the option and this is the fourth. Like but back then, like a couple, like a couple of years ago, it used to be higher.
00:16:15
Bhupen
They're both older.
00:16:17
Mike
Depends who you're talking about.
00:16:18
Bhupen
Yeah, Miles Garrett, TJ Watt.
00:16:19
Trio of Positivity
ah Just general, just general, just general.
00:16:21
Bhupen
Yeah, Miles Garrett, TJ Watt, right?
00:16:23
Trio of Positivity
I'm just talking in general.
00:16:24
Bhupen
Similar contracts to Micah Parsons.
00:16:26
Mike
I feel like it's,
00:16:26
Bhupen
They were all three-year guaranteed, basically, contracts. Like, fourth, fifth year.
00:16:30
Mike
think a lot of contracts are usually four, four or five years now, if they're coming into their second contract. Keep in mind, a lot of this plays off of, was it a first round pick, second round pick? Because first round pick goes five years, typically.
00:16:44
Mike
Second round pick only only goes four. So it all depends on stuff like that. But typically, if you're a solid player, it's going to be a four or five year extension. um And then the lesser, as you get older, like Terry, Terry, um Fuck.
00:17:00
Mike
God. the The Washington Reds, not Commanders guy.
00:17:03
Bhupen
like McLaurin. Terry McLaurin.
00:17:05
Mike
McLaurin. He's old. He's turning 30 this year in November. So that's why his will probably be a shorter deal when he signs it
00:17:13
Trio of Positivity
But that's what I'm saying. You're saying it's a shorter deal, but it's a higher number. So wasn't it before like you can kind of split that number off by adding more to the contract, but more years to the contract? Like I don't see that anymore.
00:17:24
Bhupen
This will do that, like...
00:17:25
Mike
No, I mean, it's all about the number, dude. All these guys care about is either getting the most guaranteed or the most annual paid.
00:17:27
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:17:29
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
00:17:32
Mike
That's all they care about. It's either one or the other.
00:17:35
Bhupen
Yeah, like, and the money, they still move it around, Chris. Like, they'll cap it, like, whatever. They'll make it signing bonus, whatever, move a bunch of money up front, move it behind.
00:17:43
Trio of Positivity
No, they'll just trade them. I mean...
00:17:46
Bhupen
Like, they still move the money around.
00:17:47
Mike
They don't, they just cut them. They just cut them.
00:17:49
Trio of Positivity
Yeah. After the guaranteed's all done.
00:17:51
Mike
That's what, look at what, look at what, look what the, now look at the Broncos did with Russell.
00:17:55
Bhupen
Yeah, look at what they did with the...
00:17:56
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, but that's different.
00:17:58
Bhupen
No, no, no.
00:17:58
Trio of Positivity
that was That was new ownership.
00:17:59
Mike
How is different? a hundred well Was it like 89?
00:18:00
Trio of Positivity
That was new management.
00:18:01
Mike
It wasn't new ownership.
00:18:02
Bhupen
no no no and the look at the Raiders DT two years, like 70 million deal. Like he got let go after one year, five gains and injury.
00:18:13
Bhupen
Like, yeah, no.
00:18:14
Mike
he was wasn't he He was like a five year, wasn't he?
00:18:15
Bhupen
Was five? I thought it was two year guaranteed, like 70 million.
00:18:18
Mike
No, he was. No, I think it was a lot more than that.
00:18:22
Bhupen
it? Okay. i but I thought it was two years, but
00:18:24
Mike
He was like one of the biggest free agents last year.
00:18:24
Bhupen
and
00:18:26
Bhupen
he had a, he was on the hard knocks. He was like a, he was a baller. I thought it was like a, the other guy on the other side, Crosby. Like, I think you're a great year. for sure, but, um, no, like, it's, it's interesting, it's a business, right, and some business decisions are definitely getting made, uh, but, yeah, no.
00:18:37
Mike
Yeah. i think I think a lot of people are realizing that you can't deal with shitty fucking players.
00:18:50
Mike
Not saying that some of these guys are shitty players, but like when you look at...
00:18:53
Bhupen
You, you just did, but okay.
00:18:53
Mike
like
00:18:55
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, you just did.
00:18:55
Mike
when When you look at someone like ah Russell Wilson, like when you trade this and Sean Payton comes in and he realizes this guy is shit, like you just got to cut bait.
00:19:04
Trio of Positivity
he
00:19:06
Bhupen
Fucking Jets.
00:19:06
Mike
You just got to cut bait and let him go.
00:19:08
Bhupen
Jets, like, what what do they eat for AirDog? Like, 50 mil or something, right? That's his cap hit? It's, like, insane. Right?
00:19:15
Trio of Positivity
But I think they got some money back with the insurance, so it's not that bad.
00:19:19
Bhupen
Is it? Okay. Like, it it was, like, an insane number for a cap hit. ah Just like the Packers. That's what they traded him anyway.
00:19:24
Trio of Positivity
But again, that's new that's new management. They could have kept Rodgers.
00:19:27
Bhupen
It is.
00:19:30
Trio of Positivity
A lot of it is going to come to preferences, obviously. But what I'm saying is, I'm more talking Parsons. I think Hendrickson should get paid.
00:19:40
Mike
He's not going to get paid.
00:19:40
Trio of Positivity
McLaren?
00:19:41
Mike
There's no way Hendrickson's getting paid.
00:19:41
Trio of Positivity
I know. I know, but he should.
00:19:44
Bhupen
No, like the funny thing is, yeah.
00:19:44
Trio of Positivity
um
00:19:45
Mike
He's old. At least it goes back to age. These guys are old.
00:19:49
Trio of Positivity
still has to get paid at least three years, though. Come on.
00:19:52
Mike
They're not giving three.
00:19:52
Bhupen
but
00:19:53
Bhupen
No, no, no. Guys, this is beautiful because that's literally the argument there. He wants more years and they are trying to get him one year, two year, but higher money. That's literally the argument they are having right now.
00:19:53
Mike
It's going to be one or two.
00:20:04
Trio of Positivity
That's why I asked.
00:20:05
Bhupen
This is beautiful that you guys like kind of got there.
00:20:07
Mike
Yeah.
00:20:08
Bhupen
um

Chicago Bears Focus and Coaching Changes

00:20:09
Bhupen
All right. um That was the catch up. Here's what happened in the league in like a freaking 30,000 fit view because Miller won't let me talk more about this.
00:20:19
Trio of Positivity
True.
00:20:19
Bhupen
um For the next section, Miller, I'm going to hand it off to you. We'll be focused on the Bears, talk about their changes, what they did
00:20:28
Mike
Oh, you mean the actual name of the podcast? of The Chicago Bears podcast? Great, I'm so happy.
00:20:33
Trio of Positivity
No, it's not. It's not in the name. that's The name is Trio of Positivity.
00:20:35
Mike
um im I'm so happy that we just wasted 20 minutes.
00:20:37
Trio of Positivity
It's Trio of Positivity, even though it's two-thirds right now.
00:20:37
Bhupen
Chris, Chris, what's the name again? What's the name of the podcast? That's what i thought.
00:20:42
Trio of Positivity
But yeah, go ahead
00:20:43
Mike
we talked about we We talked about so much things relevant to the city of Chicago. I would have rather talked about fucking Lollapalooza than that bullshit.
00:20:51
Trio of Positivity
ahead. Hey, Sabrina's Carpenter set was great, but Hulu did a shit job of showing that production.
00:20:51
Bhupen
o Oh, wow, it was on Hulu.
00:20:51
Mike
Yeah, you're...
00:20:58
Mike
I didn't even know Sabrina was on it.
00:20:58
Bhupen
i didn't even realize.
00:20:59
Trio of Positivity
It's on Hulu. Yeah, Sabrina Carpenter was there.
00:21:00
Bhupen
Yeah,
00:21:00
Mike
All I heard was a lot of good shit about Olivia Rodrigo. She had reeze Weezer come out.
00:21:04
Trio of Positivity
ah heart her hers is out on YouTube you can find that one that one's pretty good too guess wind and why earth wind and fire how dare you name them wrong it's earth wind and fire god damn it
00:21:06
Bhupen
she did. um And Sabrina had ah Earth, Fire, and Wind come out.
00:21:14
Mike
Jesus.
00:21:16
Bhupen
yeah They have one song I know. That's all I know.
00:21:18
Trio of Positivity
they have three how dare you
00:21:20
Bhupen
right I know one. That comes at every wedding I go to. Miller, over to you.
00:21:25
Mike
yeah All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get to the crux of the fucking podcast here and dive into our Chicago motherfucking bills.
00:21:37
Bhupen
Chicago Beers.
00:21:37
Mike
Guys, we have... We have a fucking game in less than six days. Quick math. Kind of close. Something like that.
00:21:47
Bhupen
40?
00:21:48
Mike
Five or six days.
00:21:48
Bhupen
Okay.
00:21:49
Mike
Can't wait. It's our first preseason game against the Miami Dolphins, and things are raring to go. So what? We haven't been here. We haven't talked to you since January. What the fuck happened?
00:22:01
Mike
Well, first of all, this year goes way too fucking fast. But what happened with our Bears? What? I would almost call this, well, we definitely won the postseason if you want to do that for what, not one, not two, not three.
00:22:17
Mike
What is this, our third year winning the offseason?
00:22:20
Bhupen
both
00:22:20
Trio of Positivity
I hate that term.
00:22:21
Trio of Positivity
I officially hate that term.
00:22:23
Mike
I think it is, though.
00:22:23
Trio of Positivity
That's the dumbest shit.
00:22:24
Mike
think it is, though.
00:22:25
Trio of Positivity
It's the dumbest shit.
00:22:26
Mike
It is stupid. But we definitely won the offseason.
00:22:28
Bhupen
Chris, but we got to own it. We got to own it. That's the only way they're going to get.
00:22:31
Trio of Positivity
No, we don't.
00:22:32
Mike
That's the only thing we win, Chris.
00:22:32
Bhupen
was calling it.
00:22:34
Mike
Just own it. Why did we win the offseason, did you say? Well, we'll start. I'll get your guys' opinion as as we flow. Let's first talk about coaches that actually matter to this fucking listening group, and that is the coaches for the Chicago Bears.
00:22:51
Mike
So first and foremost, we hired the hottest coast on the market. We hired Ben Johnson. We gave him a record-setting deal, and this is arguably the first time that a Chicago Bears organization has actually gone all in on a head coach, and they paid Ben Johnson the money.
00:23:10
Mike
Obviously, most of us know him. He was the offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions, comes in with a I believe the Lions were the hottest offense last year, number one rated.
00:23:21
Mike
So hopefully he can translate that to our end.
00:23:21
Bhupen
Definitely.
00:23:25
Mike
On top of that, they got one of the hottest defensive coordinators on the market.
00:23:28
Bhupen
Wait, wait, wait. Before we get there, i know this, like, offseason champs gets a bad moniker, but that is truly... I'm i'm okay with that. If that's what it brings to us, if we're having the hottest coach out there that every other team, Tom Brady fucking wanted, and we got him, and that's where we get offseason champs, fuck it.
00:23:47
Bhupen
I don't care if they call us that.
00:23:47
Mike
Okay, i I agree with you, but to bring in our commentator from the outside, Ben, as he likes to say, is it really offseason champs if nothing really happens relevant?
00:23:48
Bhupen
That was worthless.
00:24:02
Bhupen
that's
00:24:03
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
00:24:03
Bhupen
That's why it's called off-season. It's not the season.
00:24:05
Mike
No, I mean, we were the last two offseason champs, but what do they have translated to? Nothing. So why are they really the champs? Like you're champs today, but it doesn't really mean anything going forward is the point.
00:24:17
Bhupen
It's like, okay, I get It's like planting an apple tree, you know? You plant an apple tree, are you getting apple the first year? Maybe not. Shitty apples, if anything. Two years? Probably not, but maybe there's potential. Third year.
00:24:30
Bhupen
That's when the apples start growing, you know? That's what we have done the last two off-seasons, boys.
00:24:35
Mike
And you shut my she you shut up my spiel for that. Thank you. Okay, going back.
00:24:39
Trio of Positivity
Hey, just out of curiosity, um it's two to five years for apple trees to produce fruits, not just two.
00:24:40
Mike
What?
00:24:46
Bhupen
Did you fucking Google that?
00:24:48
Trio of Positivity
I did. And if you want good ones, it's 10 to 15 years. So let's be careful here.
00:24:51
Bhupen
Okay. I mean, Dynasty, 10 to 15. Let's go.
00:24:54
Mike
Oh my god Going back to important information. We also hired the biggest defensive coordinator on the market, Dennis Allen.
00:25:01
Bhupen
Mm-hmm.
00:25:02
Mike
He was the former head coach of the New England, New England, New Orleans Saints.
00:25:08
Bhupen
who
00:25:08
Mike
um He's previous head coach experience and also coach. respected defensive coordinator in this league. We brought in the youngest offensive coordinator in the league with Declan Doyle.
00:25:20
Mike
That has a little caveat there. and We don't know how he's going to do. He was a tight end coach with the Broncos, but obviously they had a very successful offense under Bo Nix last year.
00:25:31
Mike
So that was... We'll see. We'll see how that one turns out. Ben Johnson's realistically going to be our OC, but Declan Doyle's going to be there to help him along the way. And then some big position group guys that we brought in.
00:25:43
Mike
um Antoine Randall L., who is probably familiar with most of you, is a former wide receiver in this league. He's going to be the wide receiver coach. And then Eric Biennemi, which was quite the name to bring in.
00:25:57
Mike
He came in from college, but obviously most of us know him. from the offensive coordinator for the Kansas city chiefs, we brought him it as a running back coach. So those are some great coaching hires that we brought in as from the, for the bears.
00:26:12
Mike
And we're really seeing fruits of the labor at training camp right now. What are your thoughts on on those big hires?
00:26:21
Bhupen
Chris what you got
00:26:21
Trio of Positivity
Well, you're missing one big news here that I'm surprised you didn't cover.
00:26:28
Bhupen
what
00:26:28
Trio of Positivity
After all of this happened, polls got extended to the 2029. How do you, how do you forget to not include that?
00:26:33
Bhupen
I've...
00:26:36
Mike
Because it was the head coach section.
00:26:36
Trio of Positivity
ah winner, the GM, the GM winner of the two past off seasons that he's had.
00:26:43
Bhupen
Hang on.
00:26:43
Bhupen
I actually actually have actual relevant things to talk about. But have you guys noticed this trend of former head coaches being hired as DCs? Iver Flues is a DC in cow with the Cowboys now.
00:26:43
Trio of Positivity
And you,
00:26:43
Mike
It was...
00:26:57
Bhupen
um Kellen Moore hired Brandon Stanley.
00:26:59
Mike
guys...
00:27:01
Bhupen
Like, no, I just wanted to see. It was, like, kind of cool that, like, former head coaches are becoming DCs. i thought that was cool. um
00:27:08
Mike
I'm glad everybody listens to my Bears talk, but it's not really cool.
00:27:08
Bhupen
What?
00:27:13
Mike
Like, it's just... It's basically... The NFL runs off of the hottest coordinators and they everybody's trying to find the next coordinator, right?
00:27:17
Bhupen
Thank you.
00:27:24
Mike
So you have your Sean McVeighs, you have your Kyle Shanahan's, you have the people like that that make their names and they're the hottest coordinator at the time like Ben Johnson is. But some of these guys, the hottest coordinator, they just don't make it as head coaches. And what happens when you don't make it as a head coach? Well, you go back to what you know.
00:27:41
Mike
And that's what happened with Dennis Allen. He was a very good defensive coordinator that came in, tried to be a head coach. It didn't work. That's what happened with Matt Eberflues. Well, that was not the greatest hire, but that's what happened. He was a respected defensive coordinator. They bring him in.
00:27:56
Mike
Doesn't work. I mean, I don't wouldn't call that cool. Basically, you're calling their failure cool, but it's but it's basically them failing as a head coach and going back to what they know.
00:28:06
Bhupen
Like, the the parts good the ah part that's cool with me like, Ben Johnson, right? He's a first-time head coach. If I'm bringing a former head coach to my to my house, like, that's, like,
00:28:17
Bhupen
kind of cool like it's like either he doesn't have an ego or he's like big enough to be like this part of the game I'm very good at but there's like I need help with it so he's bringing someone who's like technically has a higher stature than him is what I wanted to say it was like kind of cool on the Bears end that he has a head coach that's like he's like hey come help me with this you know like kind of a thing was what I was ah hinting at
00:28:39
Trio of Positivity
so so
00:28:39
Mike
I love it. I am.
00:28:40
Trio of Positivity
So, to go
00:28:41
Mike
Are you going to talk about this or talking something else?
00:28:43
Trio of Positivity
to to go back to Miller's original point before we piss him off, um I was one of the first to say that the Bears would not get Ben Johnson. I remember a couple episodes where we were discussing, like, should the Bears move on this and should, like, what's
00:28:57
Bhupen
and that was the That was the last episode. I read the notes before this show.
00:29:02
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, and the and we were kind of surprised because we thought Johnson to the Raiders was a done deal.
00:29:02
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:29:09
Trio of Positivity
We basically, everything and that we read was a done deal.
00:29:10
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:29:14
Trio of Positivity
And then some stuff started coming out that they actually had conversations and I guess polls gave him what he wanted. I there was no other way to there was no there was no other way to explain it at that time.
00:29:27
Trio of Positivity
And now you're kind of seeing all of these coaches come in and and there have been great conversations that I've read um ah updates on training camp about how these coaches have been working, especially during rookie camp. So like it was it was good to hear. It looks like they're they're gelling quite well.
00:29:44
Mike
Definitely. Yeah. Coaches have been great.
00:29:47
Bhupen
BNME just yelling at the running backs has been great.
00:29:48
Mike
Ben Johnson and... Yeah. Ben Johnson really seems to command the room. We just had our special teams coach who we kept from the previous regime came out today and said that Ben Johnson is far and away the bet.
00:29:55
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
00:30:02
Mike
One of the best coaches that he's worked with and he's worked with, some of the former champs. um I forget the ones that he named, but he was John Fox was the only one that I remember, but there were a few others that actually won the Superbowl, not only got there, but very high praise coming from Ben Johnson from coaches on the coaching staff, as well as,
00:30:24
Mike
um Some of the players as well as the accountability that he's holding um to multiple multiple players on the team. And we knew that lacked last year. So ah let's keep it rolling here.

Bears' Offseason Moves and Strategy

00:30:36
Mike
The head coaches came. That is obviously a big domino to fall. It's important. We came from the shit show that was last year and we hope to improve this year. Not only with the head coaching, but also the players. So how did we do that? Well, as Chris mentioned, we signed our GM to three additional years to line him up with Ben Johnson.
00:30:59
Mike
Why did we do that? Well... He had a pretty good offseason, as we talked about, not only in head coach.
00:31:05
Bhupen
I heard we had chants, yeah.
00:31:05
Mike
he also He also brought in some linemen and not in the draft. He pulled off two trades before the draft and free agency started.
00:31:19
Mike
One for Joe Thune and one for Jonah Jackson. Joe Thune is very, that trade was very highly regarded because Joe Thune, if you remember, was an allpro guard last year and all pro guard last year. last year.
00:31:37
Mike
And we traded a fourth round pick for it. Jonah Jackson was a right guard for the Rams. He had a pretty bad year, to say the least, with them, mainly due to injuries.
00:31:53
Bhupen
Hey, do don't make Ben force you say things.
00:31:53
Mike
But he...
00:31:56
Trio of Positivity
and I was trying to say, this is rehearsed.
00:31:58
Mike
I mean, did he not have a bad year? He only played like four games. But Jonah Jackson did play with Ben Johnson in Detroit prior to that. So he brought in two guards to solidify the interior of our offensive line, which was a huge addition.
00:32:15
Mike
He proceeded to extend Joe Thune. So everybody's very excited about that. Having ah A solid piece on that offensive line, particularly at the left guard position for at least three years, is fucking awesome for this team.
00:32:31
Mike
Thoughts on the traits?
00:32:31
Bhupen
and I mean, Tooney played guard and he also played left tackle, if I remember correctly, in one of those.
00:32:38
Mike
Yeah, he wasn't very good at left tackle.
00:32:40
Bhupen
But like he I think they won the Super Bowl that year, didn't they? Or was that the last year?
00:32:43
Mike
No, it was last year, and they did not win the Super Bowl last year.
00:32:46
Bhupen
Okay, cool. like That's a huge, like, that's very different positions, very different ah assignment. The fact that he's versatile enough, I like that. We gave a fourth round pick next year for that, like, I think that's a heck of a trade.
00:32:57
Bhupen
um Jonah Jackson, like you said, we didn't give up very much. We just gave a sixth round pick this year for them. um So, like, again, like, but I think the interior of the line is rebuilt, like you said. We'll cover one more in a minute. But I'm very excited. i think that was the opportunity, right, with the team, with all the sacks Caleb took. I'm very excited to see how these trades help us better, especially the interior of the line.
00:33:24
Mike
All right. Anything, Chris? Okay. Moving on.
00:33:31
Mike
Maybe we should just make this an NFL show instead the Chicago Bears show. Oh, good. ah Moving on to the free agents that we brought in. Okay. So obviously we pulled off those two trades to get the guards on the offensive line.
00:33:45
Mike
Then free agency opened.
00:33:45
Bhupen
Thank you.
00:33:46
Mike
And what do we do? We go and get one of the biggest free agent linemen on the market. The center out of Atlanta, Drew Dahlman, was connected to the Bears in many ways.
00:33:57
Mike
And everybody was hoping and praying that we were going to get him and they pulled it off. So not only are we talking about the Bears getting the biggest head coach on the market, but we arguably got the biggest offensive lineman on that market as well in Drew Dahlman. So we completely changed the interior of the defense or the offense and completely transformed it from what it was last year.
00:34:19
Mike
And not only did he focus on the offense, he then looked at the defensive line as well. Obviously, two big weaknesses, if you really look at last year, was the offensive and the defensive line.
00:34:32
Mike
So the defensive line, what they did is they signed their big
00:34:38
Mike
their big edge position was Dio Odibingo. I have not practiced that. Shit, that was awesome. That was so awful. Oh, God.
00:34:51
Mike
But we had i oh o the bingo sure
00:34:51
Bhupen
Oh, the bingo?
00:34:54
Mike
ah we got Dio on the opposite end of Montez Sweat. A little bit of concern with Dio. We paid him a lot of money and he doesn't have much of the proven success.
00:35:05
Mike
The only thing that I can say for Dio is that we have a lot of analysts that are... are are are very much excited of how well he fits with Dennis Allen's defense. So we got to hold our hopes there and hope that he makes an impact. impact But the one big move that they made was they signed Grady Jarrett, a multi-time pro bowler from Atlanta. They got him because of cuts, and he is currently going to help our defensive team.
00:35:37
Mike
front as well, along with dial. So two big defensive front free agents that were signed. We did sign some other guys, but those are the three big ones that we brought in.
00:35:49
Mike
What are our thoughts there boys?
00:35:52
Bhupen
Gotta push back a little bit. Drew Dahlman was probably one of the best centers. and about the best O-linemen in the free agency.
00:36:02
Bhupen
Anyway. um Drew.
00:36:03
Mike
Okay. Are you going to provide me with another name before you say I'm wrong?
00:36:07
Bhupen
ah let Let me think about that. But I'm to about Dayo. You're right. He's young. um It's like very interesting. We got younger with Dio and Grady is probably on the older side. So it will be like a good rotation with the with the people we already have, the second-year players, third-year players that we have on the line.
00:36:25
Bhupen
But I think it's interesting. um ah Defenses are usually ahead of offenses in see um in training camps, but the defense has been getting some good buzz in โ€“ sorry.
00:36:36
Mike
We're not on the Trading Camp Park, okay?
00:36:40
Bhupen
Sorry. Sorry to ruin your surprise, but the the defense is getting some good buzz in the aforementioned ah things that they're doing right now. The organized camps that they're doing right now.
00:36:50
Bhupen
Sorry.
00:36:53
Bhupen
Chris, what you got?
00:36:57
Trio of Positivity
It's polls doing polls things. um
00:36:59
Mike
Okay, awesome. Awesome. Great.
00:37:02
Trio of Positivity
You guys you guys know I don't really care about like going into the free agencies and stuff, although I will say this free agency was actually a lot of fun to like follow.
00:37:13
Bhupen
Outside? Yeah. No, definitely.
00:37:15
Mike
You literally talk 20 minutes about Justin Fields, yet you don't even fucking give a shit about your own team. Got it. That's where your loyalty lies. Can't wait to be with you all season on the Trio Positivity with when we talk about the Bears.
00:37:28
Mike
Moving on to the NFL draft. Obviously, when you talk about the offseason, there's two big periods. You've got the free agency period and the draft period.
00:37:40
Mike
We covered the free agency. Now let's dive into the draft. So when we talk about the draft, the Bears obviously had a first round pick. And I believe if I'm correct, they had two second round picks.
00:37:53
Mike
Well, what did we come away with? You might think that we came away with some defensive studs. We did not. We focused solely on the offensive side of the ball, specifically with pick number 10.
00:38:07
Mike
The first round selection of Colston Loveland, a completely surprise out of left field, the tight end out of Michigan, before Tyler Warren, who was projected to be the number one tight end off the board.
00:38:21
Mike
This was a controversial pick, not liked by many, including myself, but hey, I can't control it. what are your What were your guys' thoughts on that and that pick?
00:38:34
Bhupen
The funny thing was we were like mocked the other tight end that went to the Colts couple of picks later. um It's a very different kind of a tight end. the like The two tight ends are very different.
00:38:45
Bhupen
One was like ah blocking more, um you know, less of a maybe offensive threat.
00:38:48
Mike
Thank
00:38:51
Bhupen
And the other one was like probably a better receiver. So the focus, I think, is clear. We'll probably run a lot of two tight end sets. And so supposedly he fit our scheme that to run better.
00:39:04
Bhupen
um Again, um like you said, a big, big surprise. But looking back now, I see why we picked them and what we're going to try and do with them this year.
00:39:17
Trio of Positivity
I still don't know why we went tight end. I think that is more of the confusing thing. um I think when we were looking at tight ends and you guys mentioned Warren, right? I think he was older.
00:39:30
Trio of Positivity
i think Loveland is younger. But like a couple of years, if I don't recall. So maybe that might have some into it, like might have some stuff where they might see longevity with him.
00:39:40
Trio of Positivity
But I still need to see more. And we'll talk about it in the next in the next couple segments when we get to that part. But yeah, it was very surprising to see that we went with Titan.
00:39:52
Mike
Yeah, absolutely. um I have liked what I've heard, but um first round selection was a tight end. So naturally, we have a second round pick. We're like, here we go, baby.
00:40:03
Mike
Let's get into those defensive lines.
00:40:04
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
00:40:06
Mike
Nope. ah We keep with the offense. ah we We picked a wide receiver. Luther Burden was our...
00:40:17
Bhupen
Also a surprise. also a surprise
00:40:17
Mike
was our
00:40:18
Mike
was our pick at the top of the second round. We proceeded to trade our third round. I think we traded back in or something happened. We traded back. We traded back one of our second round picks and got two other picks.
00:40:32
Mike
So we got Luther Burden, wide receiver, complete surprise there as well. Then we got our tackle, Ozzy Trapilo was there another second round pick. And finally, we got our defensive line, Shamar Turner after that.
00:40:47
Mike
So first, Luther Burden, wide receiver, highly regarded. he was probably... Pick projected as almost one of the best picks in the draft because he did fall to us.
00:40:59
Mike
Ozzy Trupulo is a huge mammoth of an individual. A right tackle, but has been converted to left tackle at training camp. And then finally, Shamar Turter, defensive tackle to help the defensive line.
00:41:14
Mike
Is hurt, status unknown as to if he will be a week one starter. What are your thoughts there on our second round picks?
00:41:24
Bhupen
uh, the rumor is we wanted to pick a running back, um, in the second round, um, maybe even late first, but, uh, the teams that are ahead of us kept picking the guys we wanted. That's why we kept trading back.
00:41:35
Bhupen
That's how Luther Burden supposedly came to be. ah the most ones I've seen is the running back that went to new England was the one we were ready to draft before, uh, we traded back, I believe, and picked up Luther Burden, but, um,
00:41:50
Mike
No, no, no, no, no. no Luther Burden was our pick. ah We traded back. You are right about the Hendrickson, the Henderson thing. We did want him, but he went like two picks before our Luther Burden pick.
00:42:02
Mike
I don't think we traded back that pick. I think it was second, the second round pick that we traded back.
00:42:04
Bhupen
we will
00:42:09
Bhupen
Thank you for correcting me. um The Samar one, I've heard a month into the season. like pisa no way. like the The best expectation is he'll join us like but later in the year.
00:42:21
Bhupen
that That's what I've heard. But yeah, Ozzy is competing in left tackle, which is amazing. like you know It's hard to find good left tackle. So that's a positive thing there too.
00:42:33
Trio of Positivity
Yeah, I think um Miller kind of hit it with Burden. um
00:42:39
Bhupen
Thank you.
00:42:39
Trio of Positivity
Just the draft strategy, i think this year was, I think we were expecting one thing and they went another way. Uh, it could be rewarding. um That's not saying that it's not bad.
00:42:54
Trio of Positivity
it I think burden was projected at some point to be like a first rounder. And then he felt he had like a bad fall. So I think the bears probably still saw something in him. Um, but I, I think the only one that i recall was burden that kind of was like, Hmm.
00:43:13
Bhupen
Like, it's it's pretty interesting. Like, Loveland was, like, the number one tight end for a lot of people. Like, Burden was, like, maybe not number one wide receiver, but, like, pretty high for some people, and he was off the board for some people.
00:43:24
Trio of Positivity
Loveland was not Loveland was.
00:43:25
Mike
I don't think the Loveland was high number one tight end for anybody.
00:43:27
Trio of Positivity
No, I don't think.
00:43:29
Bhupen
ah but i can show you, like, there's definitely, like, drafts I've heard where he was he is the number he wasn't number one over Warren. Definitely, i've I've seen, I can i can give you a receipt.
00:43:38
Trio of Positivity
I always felt they were a coin flip.
00:43:40
Mike
I didn't. I thought Tyler Warren was far and away the best tight end on the board. I heard that. I will say, with to Boopin's point, you started to hear Loveland's name a little bit more as we got closer to the draft, but Tyler Warren, because of the records that I believe he set last year, was far and away like the tight end number one, and that's why we had a lot of mocks.
00:44:02
Mike
projecting that the bears took take him um there was quite a few stories that came out after um the draft talking about loveland in particular how a lot of teams were trying to trade up to get him and then once the bears took him the trade market kind of went quiet so it seemed like he was very much a commodity that a lot of people wanted um But a lot of the people that I talked to had Warren ahead of not talking we talk to listen to had Warren ahead of Loveland. So it's it's it's it's interesting. um
00:44:38
Mike
What is your thought process in regards to polls and Ben Johnson's influence on this draft?
00:44:48
Bhupen
um
00:44:48
Trio of Positivity
Honestly, I don't know.
00:44:51
Bhupen
It's kind of lovely and scary, right?
00:44:51
Trio of Positivity
and
00:44:53
Bhupen
Like we're like going all in on Ben Johnson, which is awesome. That's what you want to see, it right? You bought this hotshot guy, give him all the things, but he has like literally has Full reigns, it seems. I don't know.
00:45:05
Bhupen
All of the picks seem to, like, be in the direction we're trying to go, which is usually, like, drafts are sometimes forward-looking, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah But, like, it's kind of scary and interesting that he has so much control, I think.
00:45:18
Trio of Positivity
Poles has always been known to do stuff in drafts. So like trading up and down, I think we always expect some kind of movement with him. But this draft, we were expected to do certain things like Miller said, like go defense.
00:45:30
Trio of Positivity
ah We needed to help on the defensive side. And then we just didn't. That's the part where I genuinely just don't know if that's a Ben Johnson decision or if that was Poles trying to say like, hey, these are the people that we need for whatever reason. Like, I don't know.
00:45:46
Trio of Positivity
Did we do that last year?
00:45:50
Mike
I think it's Ben Johnson.
00:45:50
Trio of Positivity
Like, ah you know what I'm saying? like draft As far as draft strategies go, i don't know.
00:45:58
Mike
I went into this draft thinking that Poles was going to try to take the reins, and in a way he kind of did with what he did in free agency and the trades. He really solidified the the lines, which is what we were looking for at the end of last season.
00:46:12
Mike
But I really didn't think...
00:46:12
Bhupen
i mean the old linemen the old linemen in the draft were like not as high regarded too right Like, at least the ones that would fall to us, they were not, like, top of the draft class.
00:46:23
Mike
Yeah, there was a big drop off, if I remember. Specifically, the interior positions.
00:46:26
Bhupen
Hmm.
00:46:29
Mike
um I don't think they were as good. But I really think that, although I hate to say it, I think this very much was a Ben Johnson draft. i think I think polls just kind of...
00:46:40
Mike
really took his opinion to heart and was like, okay, this is what we're going to do. Let's do it. Let's get the wide receiver that fits your scheme. Let's get the tight end that fits your scheme since you're going to be running a lot of 12 men fronts and just like, just, just do it.
00:46:49
Bhupen
Exactly.
00:46:58
Mike
And well, who knows how it's going to work out and if it's going to work.
00:46:58
Bhupen
Yeah. i
00:47:01
Mike
But I honestly, at this point, I probably trust Ben Johnson more than I trust Ryan polls. So.
00:47:07
Trio of Positivity
i See, that's too early. It's too early for me to even go that far.
00:47:10
Mike
Why?
00:47:10
Bhupen
i it It is beautiful to see.
00:47:11
Mike
Please expand.
00:47:13
Bhupen
It's beautiful to see they're working together is what I would say.
00:47:15
Trio of Positivity
Like, okay, it's great that they're working together, but it's not proven.
00:47:15
Mike
Why?
00:47:18
Trio of Positivity
Like, it's nothing proven yet. So I can't just say...
00:47:20
Mike
ah But what what isn't proven? Yes, he's not proven as a head coach, but he's proven as an ah offensive coordinator. he ran and He had the best offense last year, so why isn't him picking offensive pieces a something that is is not proven?
00:47:27
Trio of Positivity
Right, but... It's different. different. it's it's It's different when you are running and then you' it's different when you're requesting certain players. I think there's a big difference.
00:47:42
Trio of Positivity
If you have players that...
00:47:42
Mike
So you don't think he had an impact in Detroit?
00:47:43
Trio of Positivity
so No, no, no, that's not...
00:47:45
Mike
You don't think that he took Sam Laporta in Detroit?
00:47:47
Trio of Positivity
would that
00:47:48
Mike
You don't think he took Jamar Gibbs in Detroit? You don't think he had a part of it?
00:47:52
Trio of Positivity
I don't think he had final choices, though. That's what I'm saying.
00:47:55
Mike
I think he was a part of the conversation.
00:47:57
Trio of Positivity
Okay, you can be a part of the conversation, but what it sounds like you're saying, like, he had final say...
00:48:02
Mike
No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that he he was a part of the process. So he knows talent when he sees it.
00:48:06
Trio of Positivity
yeah All the coaches are a part of the process. That's that happens. All the coaches see talent. All the coaches see that that's irrelevant. That that statement is such bullshit.
00:48:14
Mike
Okay.
00:48:15
Trio of Positivity
Like what some. So there's coaches like fucking Philadelphia doesn't know what they're doing when they're in their draft. Like obviously they know what they're doing. Kansas City knows what they're doing. Like it's we can't say that that's not like if you're connect.
00:48:29
Trio of Positivity
Like let me just go back because I'm i'm going to go all over the place.
00:48:31
Bhupen
it
00:48:32
Trio of Positivity
If we're just saying polls and Johnson are connected, that's great. Whether it's Johnson that's saying these are the pieces that I need and then polls went out and get it. I don't know if I 100% agree with that just yet.
00:48:43
Trio of Positivity
That's all I'm saying.
00:48:45
Mike
i'm I'm just stating that if I have the mastermind behind a number one offense in the league, I would trust his decision on off offensive pieces more than I would trust Ryan Poles drafting players when he doesn't have the greatest drafters.
00:49:02
Trio of Positivity
Let's see. But see where I am at is if I'm Ben Johnson, I say, hey, if you're going to draft a wide receiver, the wide receiver needs to have these three traits. That and then you need to find me the player with those three traits.
00:49:13
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:49:17
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:49:17
Trio of Positivity
So that's the difference.
00:49:17
Bhupen
I, I, I hate to, I hate to compare, but like, Amon Ross and Brown, right, on the blinds, like, That's what I see. probably's so He's proven. So Luther Burnham is very different. But like that's what I've heard.
00:49:29
Bhupen
um you know Blocks a lot. Doesn't mind doing the dirty work, but also can play wide receiver. but That's what I look at when I see that. So I see your point, Chris. um I see why it's scary, but like I think it's intriguing.
00:49:41
Bhupen
It's like going on a first date or second date and like kind of you know knowing that that's the one and kind of like sharing things with them you don't want share with them.
00:49:48
Trio of Positivity
It's like literally going on a first date and it's like, boom, we already have kids. Like, that's how it feels like.
00:49:52
Bhupen
yeah he He is a deed to a house.
00:49:55
Trio of Positivity
Right. Like, and it's a good, whether it's a good thing or it's bad, I'm indifferent.
00:49:57
Mike
Get used to it.
00:49:59
Trio of Positivity
That's all I'm saying.
00:49:59
Mike
Get used to it. This is what happens when you bring in a head coach with his stature. All right. A quick note here just to throw out. I'm not going to cover all the draft picks. um As Boopin mentioned, theyre the the Bears were projected to get a running back, and they did finally in the seventh round.
00:50:16
Mike
Kyle Manungai was drafted. He was a guy out of Rutgers. He was running back out of Rutgers. Had a lot of success last year, obviously in the Big Ten.
00:50:25
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
00:50:26
Mike
But, um... Obviously, it's a smaller school. With that being said, I did want to shout him out because it does appear like he will be in the running back room this year. um Ben Johnson did make a comment recently that we should expect to see him in the fall. So interesting there. It looks like he has planted his flag on the the on the roster. So it'll be interesting to see what kind of impact he does going into the season.
00:50:51
Bhupen
Yeah. Again, looks like doesn't mind doing the dirty work. Lots of blocking and passing plays. Solid ad, I think. Seventh round looks so far so good.
00:51:02
Mike
All right, that kind of covers the offseason.

Bears' Training Camp and Player Development

00:51:04
Mike
um Outside of that, we had rookie minicamp earlier this year and initial ratiding camp our training camp over these last few weeks. Any stories have stuck out with you guys um over these past week or two?
00:51:17
Bhupen
ah We kind of preluded to it already. Offense seems behind. Caleb seems overwhelmed. Interceptions. He's learning a new. Like the part I don't like about this is there's almost too much coverage about this. Right.
00:51:33
Bhupen
that ah The training camp, whatever, this is when they should make mistakes. should yeah They are learning a new thing that they will stumble, they will fall. almost feel like it's too much coverage sometimes, but the news coming out is that offense is behind.
00:51:48
Bhupen
um you know so They had to be taken out and had to run some sprints and stuff like that. At times it was so bad, but offense is behind. Defense looks like it will be another solid defense is what I've heard.
00:52:02
Trio of Positivity
Um, I'll get into it because Miller loves him so much. Uh, some of the clips that I'm seeing of, of Caleb out there are bad.
00:52:15
Trio of Positivity
Like there's some good stuff out there. Don't get me wrong, but I think people will look at the bad more than they'll look at the good. There's two particular clips that are out there. I think the more famous one is where it's the practice net and the very last one doesn't even hit the net.
00:52:31
Trio of Positivity
um And then he turns around and throws a fit.
00:52:32
Mike
Thank you.
00:52:34
Trio of Positivity
Sure. You can do that.
00:52:35
Bhupen
the That was quarterback competition, right? It was not like... and i
00:52:39
Trio of Positivity
It doesn't matter. Whether you want to say it's leisure or quarterback competition. If someone records that and you don't hit the net on your, one of your throws, like,
00:52:48
Bhupen
that No, I'm not saying it was not bad. I was just saying his reaction was probably like, it probably had like, who's going to pick up the tab tonight? Bet with the quarterbacks?
00:52:56
Trio of Positivity
That's yeah, we're not going to go into all.
00:52:56
Bhupen
And he sucked.
00:52:58
Trio of Positivity
I'm just saying what we saw in the video. But um the other one was the offensive line just broke down.
00:53:07
Mike
Thank you.
00:53:07
Trio of Positivity
um Caleb's being chased. He goes to the right and just throws a prayer. um What Ben Johnson is kind of saying, and I think people are like these daily or not daily. I don't know how often they happen, but every Ben Johnson podium interview that I see It's like, hey, Caleb did, you know, three interceptions or he only completed like six passes.
00:53:30
Trio of Positivity
how How is he doing with these changes? And Johnson's like, well, he's learning. So to me, it's almost like they're treating this as Caleb's rookie season, which.
00:53:41
Mike
Oh, pull back the reins, dude. I think he only has five interceptions in camp. So calm down before you start talking about every time Ben Johnson goes up there, he has three interceptions.
00:53:47
Trio of Positivity
sorry.
00:53:52
Bhupen
Also, like, this is when they're supposed to throw interceptions, Chris. We gotta give them...
00:53:57
Trio of Positivity
I'm not criticizing the interceptions. If I wanted to criticize the interceptions, I could, but I'm saying the one that looked bad was a whole offensive breakdown.
00:54:04
Bhupen
he It looked bad.
00:54:05
Mike
That wasn't an interception for the record. It was dropped.
00:54:08
Bhupen
It was dropped, but yes.
00:54:10
Trio of Positivity
Either way, that still looked bad.
00:54:10
Bhupen
But there were two those two defenders there. They could have probably picked that, who got the win pick.
00:54:14
Trio of Positivity
They juggled it for a catch, but this is what I'm saying.
00:54:15
Bhupen
Yeah.
00:54:17
Trio of Positivity
It almost sounds like he's getting a rookie treatment where it's your.
00:54:22
Bhupen
He's learning a new system.
00:54:22
Mike
I mean, why isn't he getting a rookie treatment?
00:54:25
Bhupen
No, he's learning a new system.
00:54:26
Trio of Positivity
Cause he's not a rookie.
00:54:26
Mike
he's learning it He's learning an entirely new system in offense, and this is offset of the dysfunction that we had last year.
00:54:34
Bhupen
Yeah, to and it's much more complex than what he was running, too. That's the other part. There's like motions on everyone.
00:54:39
Mike
Like you...
00:54:39
Trio of Positivity
but why okay but here's the thing if you if it's more complex if it's more of these things and you're treating it as a rookie season do you really think you want to do that to the guy well
00:54:49
Bhupen
i mean, he's got to learn.
00:54:49
Mike
but If you think you can handle it. Like, I mean, he's not a rookie to your point, but like you're, he's learning in and ah the second offense in two years.
00:54:52
Trio of Positivity
well I mean and we'll see
00:55:02
Mike
That's never a good um thing for success.
00:55:04
Trio of Positivity
Thank you.
00:55:05
Mike
So I think there's a lot of stuff thrown at him and I think he's handling it. I think it's going to take time. I don't expect it. Week one against Minnesota, I think I expected second half of the year. You go back and look at Detroit and see Jared Goff, and you can see improvement from the Ben Johnson era basically every week after they got Goff.
00:55:26
Mike
And they really weren't up and running until the second half of that first year. So to expect them to be up and running right out of the gate is unrealistic. But um you just hope that he can get there.
00:55:37
Mike
And there's a lot of sloppiness right now.
00:55:38
Trio of Positivity
right
00:55:40
Mike
And the one thing that you can kind of hold your hat to is the fact that he's actually holding these players accountable. And he's saying that you you fucked up and you got to stop fucking up. And if they don't stop fucking up, then who knows where this team's going to go. It could go straight down the shitter. But...
00:55:56
Trio of Positivity
But throwing Jared Goff his name into that where he has so much experience over someone who's getting into his second year, you can't you can't do that. Like that's not.
00:56:04
Mike
But realistically, realistically, Caleb should have more talent than Jared Goff.
00:56:11
Trio of Positivity
Talent doesn't beat experience, though.
00:56:13
Bhupen
me
00:56:13
Mike
No, that's fair. But over time, if you have the talent and you're good enough, you should be better. Not saying he will be, because he hasn't been, right? Goff is really good at what he does.
00:56:24
Trio of Positivity
That's the same. I feel like that's the same argument we've had with fields, too, though.
00:56:26
Mike
But...
00:56:31
Mike
What?
00:56:32
Trio of Positivity
That talent will overcome experience.
00:56:32
Mike
Fields doesn't...
00:56:36
Mike
Fields doesn't have talent.
00:56:38
Trio of Positivity
In the first couple of years, we said he did.
00:56:38
Mike
We've...
00:56:42
Trio of Positivity
beating the rook the rushing record and all of that shit. Remember that conversation?
00:56:46
Mike
Yes, but it was more on his legs than it was his arm.
00:56:49
Bhupen
No, I mean, like no no one said he has no talent.
00:56:50
Mike
wait when you We...
00:56:50
Trio of Positivity
that's But that's talent over experience. I mean, it...
00:56:52
Mike
We... We... We ex...
00:56:55
Bhupen
Like, he may it not be a prolific passer of the ball, but I think it's kind of rude or kind of, like, mean to say that he has no talent.
00:57:04
Trio of Positivity
He was going to be a first-round draft pick.
00:57:04
Mike
Who... are you talking about?
00:57:06
Bhupen
yeah Fields?
00:57:07
Trio of Positivity
Fields.
00:57:09
Bhupen
Say he had no talent. I think it's, like, kind of a little bluff.
00:57:12
Mike
Who said he had no talent?
00:57:14
Bhupen
and That's what I heard.
00:57:14
Trio of Positivity
You just did.
00:57:16
Bhupen
I heard. Go back and listen the podcast.
00:57:16
Mike
No, he did not.
00:57:18
Mike
I'm just saying...
00:57:22
Mike
I had to have a second glass of whiskey because you, okay? I'm just saying that Fields, I was very much on the Fields bandwagon, but his arm never really progressed to what we wanted to be.
00:57:32
Mike
He's a great deep ball.
00:57:32
Trio of Positivity
Right.
00:57:34
Mike
He doesn't read the middle of the field. Can't do a lot with the defense, but he had a hell of a lot of legs. So that my thought, what I was always saying with Fields is if he could reach that 3,000-yard mark, he would hit that...
00:57:39
Trio of Positivity
Right. But what.
00:57:47
Mike
1,200 yards on the ground, multiple touchdowns, he can win that and MVP, which is what we talked about a few years ago. But like he never took those steps, and he was and and he showed that even with Pittsburgh, when he gets benched being five and two with Mike Tomlin, obviously he can't get it done as a quarterback in this league.
00:58:03
Trio of Positivity
i think the benching had I think the benching was a different subject, but what I'm trying to get at is during that first three years, it was always Fields has the talent, just needs the experience.
00:58:04
Mike
We'll see what happens.
00:58:16
Trio of Positivity
This is the same thing that you're saying now about Caleb, where he has the talent over Goff. over the experience. So it's like, oh are we going to say like, if we have to wait a couple of years, okay, we'll wait a couple of years, but then it's going to go back into this cycle of like, okay, by year three, second year under whatever, like if the bears have a bad, but if if the bears have a bad season, what are the odds that the OC stays?
00:58:43
Bhupen
I mean, no, no, no, no.
00:58:43
Trio of Positivity
Like, we don't know.
00:58:44
Mike
i think that I think this coaching staff is going to be together for at least two years.
00:58:45
Bhupen
no na Yeah, at least two years. Yep.
00:58:49
Trio of Positivity
Okay. Okay.
00:58:49
Bhupen
Like, we cannot say that. Like Miller said, it'll be like probably, you know, like.
00:58:53
Trio of Positivity
but you understand that what But you understand my thought process on that. It's like you can...
00:58:57
Bhupen
I. I.
00:58:57
Mike
Normally, when when in seasons go bad, coaches are fired.
00:58:57
Bhupen
i
00:59:00
Mike
You're right.
00:59:00
Bhupen
i
00:59:00
Mike
Yes.
00:59:01
Bhupen
i i I feel like, again, going back to the point of training campus, we had just we live in the Amazon world where we need to have, hey, this happened, something needs to happen now.
00:59:11
Bhupen
Hey, I need this tomorrow, I need this yesterday.
00:59:13
Mike
Twitter. Twitter world. not Amazon.
00:59:14
Bhupen
like like
00:59:15
Trio of Positivity
X... x
00:59:15
Bhupen
Like, no, like, it takes time. We are doing it right way, right? The O-line is being built. Like, he should be better slowly.
00:59:23
Trio of Positivity
Okay, Babubin, question for you. Question for you.
00:59:28
Bhupen
yeah sir.
00:59:29
Trio of Positivity
How much is Fields going to... Or Fields, I'm sorry. How much does Caleb play with the first oh offense um against the Dolphins?
00:59:38
Bhupen
um Oh, I don't know if he's he's probably going to play A series, I'm assuming.
00:59:43
Mike
Well, it all depends.
00:59:43
Trio of Positivity
So, it all depends.
00:59:44
Mike
It all depends on the practice on Friday. I think that's, think at this point, a lot of coaches deem that more important than the actual preseason game.
00:59:46
Trio of Positivity
Right, it depends.
00:59:52
Bhupen
Because think of it that way. Dolphins are not playing starters either, probably, right?
00:59:52
Trio of Positivity
Right.
00:59:56
Trio of Positivity
Well, no, but still traditionally, well, I say traditionally, like I'm talking like there's still four preseason games. um Typically, it was always game two or three that we were like, we would see half, you know, the first half.
01:00:05
Bhupen
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, game three, yeah.
01:00:09
Trio of Positivity
So if you're in this new system, if you're in this new system and you're trying to see it with a live defense, should Caleb play more this first preseason game or should it still be what like one drive and call it a day?
01:00:11
Bhupen
Yeah.
01:00:21
Bhupen
I mean, like, I don't think he's going to grow at a game setting. He's going grow in the training camp and the drills he does behind the scenes, right? This is execution. You want to see if he can actually, like, put what they practice in play.
01:00:34
Bhupen
So I don't think he can, like, playing two series versus one is going to probably make the difference right now, in my opinion. i think, like, if you can probably see some opportunities that, hey, the whatever, the play ah here didn't work or whatever, you'll learn those things, like, gamed game execution-wise. I don't think you'll...
01:00:51
Bhupen
build Caleb in the game settings.
01:00:55
Trio of Positivity
See, if it was me, I would have him play like the first quarter and maybe a couple more drives just to get more plays, like more live plays.
01:01:02
Bhupen
What if people are scared of injuries like it's hard, right?
01:01:06
Trio of Positivity
yeah I mean, we're going to get to a point where in like a couple of years down the line, there's not even going to be any preseason games.
01:01:06
Bhupen
If they go down in preseason.
01:01:12
Trio of Positivity
We're just going to go straight to one. So like, I mean, it's not going to matter anyway. But like, I guess what I'm trying to say is if if we're using everything that Miller's pointed out, where it's a new system, a new quarterback, a new image, and you want to get as many reps as possible and trying to do it in a live setting.
01:01:27
Trio of Positivity
First couple of preseason games would be ideal to see that get put in place.
01:01:29
Bhupen
i From what I heard, they had a practice yesterday, day before. That was the most physical practice they have they have done since Lovie Smith was our coach.
01:01:36
Mike
Today. Today.
01:01:40
Bhupen
So, like, they are trying to do things differently. So, maybe you're right, Chris. Maybe they'll give him more than a series. But I'm assuming he...
01:01:47
Trio of Positivity
I think i think i be I would appreciate more than one series. I don't know Miller?
01:01:52
Mike
See, like I mentioned, a lot of coaches now focus more on these joint practices than they do on the preseason games. I think the joint practices mean more than the preseason games.
01:02:06
Mike
So that one-on-one in practice, theoretically, is more important to a lot of coaches than preseason games. So I don't think they should. They they they don't even know if they're going to play their starters. They said they're going to do the practice, and the two head coaches are going to get together and discuss if they even want to play the starters on Sunday.
01:02:25
Trio of Positivity
Okay.
01:02:26
Mike
So I don't know.
01:02:26
Trio of Positivity
We.
01:02:27
Bhupen
Wait. Okay. Cool. That's it, people. We are done. First, season three, episode one is in the books. um We were rusty because it's our off season two.
01:02:27
Mike
We'll see.
01:02:41
Bhupen
We had lots of technical issues. We will not point any fingers.
01:02:43
Trio of Positivity
we

Podcast Conclusion and Future Outlook

01:02:45
Bhupen
We will not point any fingers.
01:02:45
Mike
No, no, no fingers will be pointed, especially at 630 tomorrow morning when I wake up.
01:02:48
Bhupen
fingers.
01:02:51
Bhupen
No fingers will be pointed, okay? Just saying. um But that's it, boys. We did it. um I don't know if we got music playing, but I'm ready for the outro.
01:03:02
Trio of Positivity
I think it's this one.
01:03:02
Bhupen
Thank you for and you for listening. We hope that you will hit the like and subscribe button. If you like the show, we are can we say we're a young podcast? We're a teenager podcast. so any and all feedback is appreciated.
01:03:15
Bhupen
Maybe someday in the near future, maybe we made sooner than what we think, we'll have some positivity coming out of Chicago sports. But until then, we will suffer in our misery together.
01:03:26
Bhupen
On that positive note, good night, everybody.
01:03:29
Mike
and Bye bye!