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Daily Palace: Maresca Move for Marc, Adebayor Appreciation & the 11th to 13th Sweet Spot
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As they do everyday, Wale, Joe, Alex, and Dan are discussing the latest goings on at the Mighty Palace
In this Episode: Alex and Joe ponder the sustainability of Palace's recent form, Chelsea's interest in Marc Guehi and a 2014 Tony Pulis trolley dash
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Crystal Palace's Recent Form
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Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome to the next instalment of the Daily Palace podcast brought to you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. I'm your host today, Alex Waite, and I'm joined by Joe Lodge. Happy New Year, Joe. How are you doing, mate?
00:00:22
Joe
Happy New Year. I'm very well, thanks mate. i'm I'm on one of my annual hydration binges where I decided drinking lots of water makes me much sharper. So it may make me much sharper today than I've had about four liters of water, but it may, may I sprint the toilet among the outbreaks. We'll, we'll see. We'll see how it goes.
00:00:44
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um After that, I'm looking very much forward to some very intellectual responses that are frequently interrupted.
00:00:54
Joe
I'm sorry.
00:00:54
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But we'll see how we get on. Yeah, like classic New Year's resolutions. that That's nice, mate. Hopefully you can carry it on and be the most hydrated man in the UK come ahead December.
00:01:07
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um Right so yeah today we're going to have a start off by looking at Palace's form which has obviously picked up massively recently. um So just having a look over the last six games we're actually seventh in the Premier League form table so we're up there with the big boys at the moment and if we started the season in that way we might have been knocking on the the European door. um Sadly we're not we're still 15th but five points clear of the relegation zone which Yeah, a couple of months ago, you would have bitten your hand off to to
Sustainability of Current Form
00:01:41
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be in that position. So it is good. um So, Joe, I just want to start by asking you is is this form? Well, we've had three draws, two wins and one loss from our last six draws against Chelsea and Man City and Bournemouth. Very good teams wins against Southampton. um Is this kind of form sustainable for the rest of the season, do you think?
00:02:04
Joe
i think broadly I mean seventh in the form table might be a bit of a stretch going through for the rest of the year but I've kind of looked at the the rate at which Palace have picked up points since, again, that big turning point in the season for me against Spurs, which was, I think, 12 games you ago now. So that's quite a long sample period. And in that time, you're looking at, again, a similar kind of rate of a lot of draws, a few wins, a few losses,
00:02:41
Joe
I think in that period, if I've done my maths right, their palace are averaging something in the region of like 1.56 or something like that points again, which is really, really not bad. um And I think The nature of performances makes me think, yeah, it is sustainable. Sustainability has always been the focus of the club.
Defensive Improvements
00:03:08
Joe
Ironic that a team named Crystal Palace should focus so much on sustainability. But um the way they've played is kind of, I think they've got the points through solid structure, a
00:03:24
Joe
kind of settled back line and a reliable, if sometimes uninspired, attacking game plan. And I don't think really, since they settled into that more pragmatic style again,
00:03:41
Joe
Any team that, I guess, Arsenal has made easy going in the game against Palace, played teams with lots of different styles. No one's really found it easy. It's quite simple, solid defence, fast counter-attacks. It's not reinventing the wheel, but it is quite a difficult thing to clearly, to easily kind of overcome and counteract.
00:04:08
Joe
there's There's one element to which Palace could even get better from this point because there are a few factors. I think the defence are still improving. They're very good, but they're still prone to soy and Chelsea, occasional lapses of concentration and small misunderstandings. And I think kind of every week they're getting closer to ironing those out. And if if they do, they become even more solid and we start seeing them rack up the clean sheets. I think that could be a
00:04:41
Joe
a feature for the next part of the season. And then there as Eze looks like he's getting back into some form, we may see Adam Worthen play again at some point in the season. I'm just impressed.
00:04:51
Joe
I'm still assuming we will at some point for now.
00:04:51
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Hopefully.
00:04:56
Joe
um So yeah, there's plenty of reasons why it could get better.
Season End Predictions
00:05:01
Joe
The obvious caveat is let list all been built on a really settled 11 that if you take almost any of them out of a long-term injury i think palace lose something quite significant i'd worry about The attack without all three of Saar's pace, Mattetta's hold-up play, as his creativity, I wouldn't want to lose any of the back three, I think, when one of them's not available. Palace do look less solid in the understanding. Doesn't look as good between them. Will Hughes, I, suddenly, the 17-year-old, the bastard I know is sniffing around,
00:05:40
Joe
has woken up having sleep walks through most of a professional career and is is playing amazingly and so I wouldn't want to lose him. the creativity. And first and foremost, the winbacks are so important in this role. And they really, they really don't have the backup. If one leg goes, Palace lose a lot of their drive and dynamism. And yeah, the whole team just doesn't function in the same way. So I think it's sustainable with reinforcements. Long story short, probably what I see in the season, and if they carry on scoring points at this rate,
00:06:18
Joe
They're looking about 46 in total, if my maths is right. As Palace fans know, wow, that gets you anywhere from 13th to 11th. So I think that could be territory. Yeah, they could be.
00:06:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
but The Promised Land for Palace fans, that is 15th to 11th, that's where we want to be. It's comfortable, it's comfortable. Yeah, i said is it does feel very settled at the moment, you're absolutely right. it's Glazen's got a tune out of the team, which we struggled to see at the beginning of the season. We were questioning what he was doing, whether he needed to change it, but he hasn't. He's changed his approach somewhat, but he hasn't changed the system, really, or the position or starting positions of the players.
00:07:01
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um Yeah I think the the wing backs are an interesting observation in particular because ah Mitchell and his contract situation is giving me heart palpitations on a daily basis because without him we've got Jeffrey Schlapp or Joel Ward um and a couple of young players who could fill in but Mitchell is a great player. um I've said it before on the pod like I'm a massive fan he's an unsung hero just does his job. A couple of the goals recently have come actually down from Munoz's side um which you know doesn't surprise me the way that he plays but
00:07:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, like if we can iron out those gaps that you mentioned, like and I'd happily go for an attempt and upwards. But as you you said with your points, ah the maths from your points predictions there, Joe, to 11 seems more likely.
00:07:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
um but Just a quick ah response, Joe. what Where do you think Palace will finish? you've You've said your projections are 13th to 11th.
00:08:10
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In your heart, where do you think Palace will finish?
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Joe
12.
00:08:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Fair enough.
00:08:19
Joe
ye
00:08:20
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a Yeah, I'm going to go one better, 11th. um Yeah, I can't see us breaking into the top half due to our slow start.
00:08:32
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This is going to cost us. So yeah, those those the talks of Europe are just, yeah, not going to happen. um So on that cheery note, time for an ad break.
00:08:42
Joe
Hahaha.
00:08:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we'll be looking ahead to the future of Mark Gehry in part two, so stay with us.
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Mark Gehry Transfer Rumors
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to part two of the Daily Palace podcast. I'm your host, today Alex White, and I'm joined by Joe Lodge. ah So we're gonna have a look now
00:09:26
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to some transfer news that's come out over the last couple of days. Surprise, surprise, it's Mark Gehry again. And this time, Chelsea are um rumoured to be after him. Obviously, he came through the Chelsea Academy um and was loaned out to Swansea before he joined Palace permanently. um There hasn't been much in the way of transfer fees over Gehry.
00:09:51
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But in one report, I saw that the amount was just regarded as silly. There was no number to it. And the wages in another report were over 300,000 a week. um And he's only got 18 months left on his contract. So it is a bit of a tricky situation for Palace. Do we sell him in cash in or um do we hold on to him and get the best out of him for another ah season or so?
00:10:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
um So what do you think about this, Joe? Do you think this will develop in something more substantial or is it just kind of rumours at this point? What do you think?
00:10:27
Joe
There are a few reasons I could see it happening. Ultimately, I don't think it will. But to start with reasons I think it could. ah I mean, one, it would be funny. This isn't one of the reasons I think it could be. But I do think it'd be funny if the Premier League's most famously religious captain went to its most ungodly team in Chelsea. But ah I think, yeah, obviously he was a Chelsea Academy player.
00:11:00
Joe
I've seen nothing to suggest that Mark Gahey would be put off a move to Newcastle, his other big potential suitor, by relocating all the way to north-east, stuff like that. But if that was a factor for him, this wouldn't be a factor for Chelsea. It's not only in the same city, but it's an environment he knows very well.
00:11:22
Joe
better even than Palace maybe, the amount of time you spent as a youth player there. I think centre-back is probably, even though they've got plenty of decent players in that area, it probably is the weakest position on the pitch for Chelsea. It's the one where post-Tiago Silva, I'd say they don't have a really great player or a player that has that much promise of being really great. I think Coldwell and Fafana are both good. I'm not sure this could come back to bite me. I'm i'm not sure Coldwell's ceiling is is
00:12:02
Joe
kind of really anywhere near as high as Mark Gays is and Fafana probably is quite high but he's so injury prone and yeah he hasn't probably this season despite doing well considering he'd been out for the best part of two years he's not really looked quite the player he looked at Leicester.
00:12:20
Joe
um I think they'll be really eager to to get a player like Daehyun and he would suit them well, he'd suit what they're doing with their young team and he is kind of if, I mean this sort of implies that the defence was working until I was simple as that, which it wasn't, but if they did want a like for like kind of replacement, he is a bit like kind of, ah he has similar qualities, very kind of composed brilliant reader of the game, just a calming influence throughout the team. I think
00:12:53
Joe
If Palace were in a position now where they felt mathematically fairly secure, they might consider it because, as you say, 18 months left. If Gage is determined to leave, which we we don't know really whether he is or isn't, it's been been very quiet on that topic.
00:13:13
Joe
um you can see why I'd want to cash in because you could lose out on a player who's worth a lot of money if they would give them one more window basically to cash in and value would go down in that time. So
Chelsea's Constraints on Signing Gehry
00:13:29
Joe
you can see why you consider it. I think
00:13:34
Joe
being as economically minded as Palace and Steve Parish are, the fact that they are actually not clear of relegation and likes of Ipswich and Wolves are picking up form. They'll just want to not upset the apple cart and losing the best defender in about three that the uptick in form has been built on is it's probably too much. And I think they would take a depreciation in its value for selling him in the summer over the amount of money you lose for being relegated because relegation is is very expensive. Also, I'm not sure how much capacity Chelsea have to make the move in January. I find it unclear.
00:14:21
Joe
Yeah, how much money they have to play with, I think our understanding is they might have to move some people on. They've got more people to move on than any other team in the world pretty much, but you kind of wonder if that if If there's something in their bid being so kind of and incredulously low, as has been reported by the Daily Express, we don't know what the bid was, but if that maybe is reflective, they don't have the money at this moment, but they want to kind of slightly unsettle the player and dangle the carrot by making a formal bid and store it out of it, I don't know.
00:15:02
Joe
But yeah, I don't think it'll happen. I don't think it'll happen in January. Could very much soon go in the summer, but I think, yeah, palettes just aren't safe and enough to take the risk of ah letting them go now.
00:15:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think it will... we We need to keep him for the season, I think, at this this stage. um And, like, your your right parish has a lot of ah sway over these decisions for the club and the benefit of the club, which is, in my opinion, correct. and I know he's not everyone's biggest fan. Like, a lot of fans don't like't agree with what he does a lot of the time, but he does have the club's interest at heart. um I think from Gaye's perspective as well,
00:15:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just don't see why he wouldn't want to leave at the end of the season either. Like, I can see halfway Glasner and Parrish, you know, saying to him, come on, just give us six months and make sure we're safe, make sure we're 12 or 11. And yeah, like, then you can go. I think just because of his experience over the last 12 months of England as well,
00:16:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just he's he has to make that big move. It's not a case of if he'll do it. It's like he has to to you know play at the best of his ability and to get regular England time. um It's just, yeah, it's a no brainer really. But yeah, I mean, financially, how much of a hit will it be? Like, who knows?
00:16:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think as well we've obviously got Riad and Chris Richards who Glazner can train up in this in the next six months to play alongside Lacroix.
00:16:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
So we've got options there and we can bolster that in the view of like next season. and So it's not all like panic stations if Gary goes at this stage. So yeah, it's not you at the end of the world, but I think these rumours are inevitable, aren't they really?
00:16:59
Joe
Yeah.
00:17:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
like It's like the transfer windows just opened and it started off again.
00:17:04
Joe
Yeah.
00:17:05
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It's just, it's going to happen.
00:17:07
Joe
I'd say a feat is
Palace's Backup Plans for Gehry
00:17:08
Joe
one of the, long term, it's one of the better positions for Palace to lose a key player in. I think they kind of, as you say, re-added Richards both.
00:17:18
Joe
Reasonable, reasonable players. We don't quite know how good Riyadh is, but I think it could be really perfect for that left center back row.
00:17:24
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Yeah.
00:17:25
Joe
It's just, yeah, I don't know. This stage of Susan. what
00:17:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, although like yeah he didn't play against Southampton and we actually looked quite good. There were sages where he didn't even realise he wasn't there, if you know what I mean. so yeah But I'm not saying that they were better without him, but he's like, I think we're in that period where we're solid and everyone knows the system and everything. So, yeah, fingers crossed.
00:17:52
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ah Right, we're going to take one more break and then we're going to come back and discuss some of our favourite Palace January transfers of all time. This podcast is part of the Global Sports Podcast Network, the only network bringing you exclusive daily news and views on your Premier League team, the Premier League, women's football and fantasy football. A unique listening experience that puts fans first, bringing you the very latest breaking news from your team.
00:18:20
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Top January Transfer Signings
00:18:32
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ah We're going to finish today's episode by just going through some of Palace's January, our favourite Palace January transfer window um sign ins. So Joel, just I'll go straight to you for this one. Who is your favourite player that Palace have signed in January?
00:18:50
Joe
I've kind of got two slash five shouts for this.
00:18:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, we'll allow it, it's fine.
00:19:01
Joe
One is just briefly a very recent one, Daniel Munoz, in January last year. I think you can argue he's been Palace's most important player in a way over the last 12 months.
00:19:19
Joe
He is probably the most important player in facilitating Glastner to play that free at the back. that you just Mitchell's not really a natural winning back, he's grown into the position gradually and done brilliantly. There wasn't a natural right-wing back until Munoz arrived. If Glastner comes in to a score without that,
00:19:40
Joe
Does, can he implement his football? Does he try it anyway and it doesn't really work? for that So that's, I think, that's great. He nearly bought, him and Lema came close to bringing a couple of Copa America wouldll min medals to Sullins Park for the fun and all that for a couple million less than Palace played for, ah paid for James Tompkins in 2016 is pretty good. The other one was just, I wasn't aware of this, but I've read earlier that,
00:20:09
Joe
Deadline day, January 2014, Tony Pulis made punches low and permanent. It's time Ledley started to go down and sign Wayne Hennessy. So basically bought half the spine in a team that would solidify Palace's status as a premium team and in one one day. So it's it's kind of like leaving all your Christmas Eve shopping. Leave it when we're Christmas shopping until Christmas Eve and then just absolutely smashing it, burning everyone the best presents they've had. So I think that has to be considered a wonderful quadruple swoop for a deadline day. But yeah, they're just my two suggestions.
00:20:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah that yeah first of all Munoz yeah great shout he's just i been been influential in the transition under Glazna. We signed Wharton as well last January which is like two unbelievable signings for not masses of money either which is um yeah it's great but yeah that I remember that uh 2014 deadline day um and it was like, oh, we're actually making some moves here to like, I think the previous window in the summer when we just got promoted, we signed, some players never heard of before, some like had barely played in the championship.
00:21:28
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But that was obviously Pewlis coming in and like, being like, all right, you've had your fun now. It's like, this is how the this is how the men
Reflecting on Adebayor's Signing
00:21:35
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do it.
00:21:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Which I actually think as well that that transfer window sort of transform transformed the way that we signed players as well. Like, I think we got out we got done over a bit when we first got promoted, but they were all shrewd and like, you know, wily players who kind of got palace from the off really. So that was, yeah, some great names in there. um Yeah, so mine is actually from ah from the Alan Pardew days. um and it Just a rogue shout. Emmanuel Adebayor signed him in 2016, January transfer window. Oh my God, what?
00:21:37
Joe
And.
00:22:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
so what a weird sign in that was. just We didn't need him at the time either. It was a very pudgy thing to do, a bit maverick. bit like I'll see what he can do, give him me ah give him a chance. And he did nothing. He scored one goal.
00:22:35
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um
00:22:36
Joe
What did he come in from Spurs?
00:22:36
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um
00:22:38
Joe
Or has he had he been somewhere else in the meantime?
00:22:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think he was released from Spurs the previous like summer, so he'd had six months of no football, and you could tell when he played right, he was so bad.
00:22:46
Joe
Yeah. yeah
00:22:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
I remember watching him at Spurs when me in the FA Cup, and it was just like, he looks like he's got potential, like, gets in good positions, but couldn't sort his feet out but for anything.
00:23:04
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um But actually, like just looking looking at him up ah for that spell, I actually looked at our squad for that season. And we our strike force was like a bit of a who's who of like Premier League misfits. So we had Patrick Bamford earlier that season on loan for half a season. We had Dwight Gale, Glen Murray, Connor Wickham, Fraser Campbell, and Marouane Shaq. And then add and a manual order by order list. it's um It's sort of a semi-threatening slash.
00:23:37
Joe
It's, I mean, it's too many strikers.
00:23:38
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Yeah.
00:23:41
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Well, yeah, that for a start. But if like any of those are lining up against you, like if you're a defender, I've got half a chance of seeing this out comfortably. Or if the good player shows up, like I'm screwed.
00:23:41
Joe
yeah
00:23:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, interested in signing that one. But it'd be exciting to see who we can get over the line. I don't think we're as, as free with our transfer spending these days. So I don't think we'll be getting any more players like Adebayor through the door.
00:24:10
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um
00:24:10
Joe
I think Blood and Telly has just been released, so we never know.
00:24:14
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He's on the market again. Yeah, wherever Paju is, I'm sure he'll he'll have a go at bringing Balotelli and Adebayor. What a duo that would be in a attack. Right, that's ah that's been the Daily Palace Pod today.
00:24:27
Joe
Thank you for having me, Alex.
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and If you've enjoyed this episode, can please give us five stars wherever you get your podcasts. It will help us massively. Thanks again for listening, and thanks, Joe, for joining me today.
00:24:39
Joe
thank you having me alex
00:24:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nice one. And you can catch up with the guys and myself later in the week with some more Palace-related episodes.