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Episode 10 - ADHD hyperactivity in Adults
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In this episode, Paul and Martin (co-Mayors of ADHDville) take a look at hyperactivity in adults. They also swap notes on accountants, why the world needs another podcast and rant about Microsoft powerpoint. Enjoy.
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Introduction and a Humorous Pool Story
00:00:00
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Because I interrupted you quite rudely, was there? Yeah, also because I'm just like blown away by that, that's just freaky. Yeah, so when I told that story a little while ago about the guy in the swimming pool that when my wife said he has ADHD, he thought I was some sort of mental patient and wouldn't look me in the eye or talk to me.
00:00:31
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It kind of didn't help because my swimming cap was this really funky, silly design. It was almost like a 10-year-old swimming cap.
00:00:48
Speaker
Right. Because anyone who's been to the swimming pool, all the adults have very, usually quite plain, you know, just a single solid colour, black or green or blue swim cat. I was like, no, I don't want to do that. So I was picking out these really funky, ridiculous swim cat. I've got this insane image of you. Please tell me you've got a photograph, please.
00:01:17
Speaker
No, I don't. And I also had these like almost like bright pink and black flowers, sort of a Hawaiian design swimming trunks. So I kind of look like, yeah, I kind of looked like a weirdo with a kid's
00:01:38
Speaker
swim cap on that. That didn't help by my cause to be honest. Oh man. Okay. Yeah. That's loving that. Loving that. Okay. All right. Well,
Rebranding to ADHDville?
00:01:50
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uh, if anyone is also listening, uh, we decided to change the name of the, of the podcast because we did like yesterday. And we did after we can, we did. And, uh, yeah.
00:02:08
Speaker
Yeah. So, uh, you know, uh, people have listened to our podcasts. There was some feedback. We are, we are all ears. Um, and, uh, there was a bit of a request to change the name. So, uh, so, uh, kind of made sense. It's cool. Yeah. Yeah. So we're now called, uh, ADHD bill. It's just like pretty much what it was about anyway. So it's cool.
00:02:36
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Yeah, absolutely. So welcome. Here we go to ADHDville.
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I
Entertainment vs. Professional Advice
00:03:03
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don't think we've quite worked out what we're gonna do here.
00:03:10
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Hello, I'm Paul Thompson and I was recently diagnosed after 56 years with ADHD. Crack on. All right. I am Martin Weston. I was diagnosed with ADHD about 10 years ago. I know that I've been saying seven years ago, but after chatting with my wife, it was a bit longer than that. Yeah.
00:03:35
Speaker
Because they wish that reality, isn't it? Just like, okay, diagnose officially. We're just two mates, who by coincidence or not, after 39 years of friendship, discover that we're co-ADHD-ers, hurrah.
00:03:52
Speaker
Now, it's really important to say that this is an entertainment podcast about ADHD and does not substitute for individualized advice from qualified health professionals. No, no, no. So don't take any advice from us. We're just here as a kind of all-inclusive ADHD bench with a pocket of onesie and a sherbet dipped up.
00:04:15
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Indeed. I'm still
Meet the Hosts and Their ADHD Journey
00:04:17
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here. Great. Then grab your lunchbox and let us take you to ADHDville, an imaginary town that we've created on our minds where we like to explore different parts of ADHD. Indeed we do. Yes. We start off here in the mayor's office in the town hall where we are the joint mayors of ADHDville and this is where we take care of business.
00:04:43
Speaker
So we have a weekly meeting and the first item on the list was how was your week? Was it good? Was it bad? Was it pretty ugly? What do you say, Mr. Tomp? Oh, I say, I say, I say, it's just happened to be a bit of a thing for both Mr. West here and myself, countenance. My countenance made a really, really screwed up.
00:05:13
Speaker
with something and yeah. Oh my God. And I got really, really, really, really anxious about it. So it could actually cost me a hell of money. So yeah. Oof. So they're trying to sort it out. In the meantime, I've already met with a new accountant, which is the point. Cause like, um, um,
00:05:41
Speaker
me and i'm guessing any ADHD is you don't just need an accountant you need the accountant that will not give you any more stress or anxiety than is necessary like um you know someone is like just on it you know that or like if you have to tell them your ADHD or as i've been telling people for some years now i just thought i had a phobia with
00:06:08
Speaker
bureaucracy and documentation. Turns out it was ADHD. So given that, I've like, okay, it's changed. I need a different accountant, someone who's actually going to take care of me, you know. So that's, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I think the one of the important things that came out of that for me was, was the idea that
00:06:37
Speaker
When you accept you have ADHD, you're more willing to look for a support system around you, whether that is an accountant or not, or whatever that is in your life, looking for people that can actually help you.
00:06:55
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And that kind of get who you are and understand your quirks and your foibles and will work with you. So, you know, and and you yourself just accepting that. Yeah, I need I need help in certain areas of my of my life. And not only that, I need a specific kind of help. In your case, I need a good accountant that I can work with.
00:07:25
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Yeah. Another good example that comes to mind is I've got my thing with the Microsoft interface, whether it's PowerPoint or Word or any of those things drives me insane. All right. To me, I think their interface is just a complete pile of crap. So what I've learned is I'll get around it by, if I have to do a
00:07:52
Speaker
for the work that I do. I have to sometimes give a client a PowerPoint template to work with based on branding stuff that I do. I work in Apple, in working pages and do everything I need to do and then just convert it to PowerPoint afterwards, send it off to the client. Otherwise, if I... Keynotes. Keynotes, sorry, keynote, that's the one.
00:08:17
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keynote to PowerPoint, I just convert it right at the end and it's fine. But little things like that just saved me, saves me so much stress. Am I the
Tackling Taxes with ADHD
00:08:29
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only one that has the thing with Microsoft interface? Microsoft products I find are not laid out in a logical way.
00:08:41
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The only way that I've managed to get on with PowerPoint is just through the sheer brute force of doing it over and over and over again so I know where everything is. Anyway, how was your week, Martin? Oh, let's stick with taxes. Why not? So I should be getting my taxes up to date this week with a
00:09:11
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with a rather hefty, uh, bill to, to pay. So, um, yeah, that, that is not going to be fun because it's like a couple of years, it's going to be a lot of money. So, uh, is that like, we're talking losing sleep or? No.
00:09:35
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It's just, it's just, um, no, it's, it's, it's, it's just a lot of money. And you kind of get that thing of like, cause when that amount comes in, there'll be a panic. I'll be feeling really bad about it. Like, Oh my God, this is appalling. Then I'll have to remind myself, right. Okay. Well, let's just divide that up into, uh, per year.
00:10:02
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So that that will bring the number down from big scary amount to a sort of a just a reasonably scary amount. And then I think, OK, right. Well, you know, that was that it's good and try and focus on the fact that I'm getting my taxes done. Yeah. And that's the main thing. And then out of it, what can I do next year to make sure that I don't go back to where I have been?
00:10:31
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Yeah. Right. Because it isn't really about the mistake you make. It's about what you do about it afterwards that counts. Yeah, exactly. In my case as well, you know, it's OK. Yeah, I have I'm really bad with this kind of stuff, but also, you know, in my case, my accountant was just really unprofessional.
00:10:56
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And just like, you know, I need people to be specific, you know, all right, you can't just send me a message that I'll do this and it's like hidden in amongst something else and in a really informal way and like expect me to pick it up.
00:11:12
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And he's like, okay, do this. When do you need to do it? How do you need to do it? That's, that's what I need. You know, so I kind of, I kind of feel like the more neurotypical you are, the better handle you have on.
00:11:28
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on your own finances, I'm not sure. And I do, that is a, you know, it is a badge of honor sometimes being neurologically diverse, but I do look at other people and think, oh God, I wish I found it as easy as you do, you know. Right, in this specific task. I'm like 56 now, and I think it should be easier by now.
00:11:53
Speaker
You know, crap, but some things aren't, some things just aren't. Yeah. All right. So, uh, this is to remind you that, uh, please subscribe to the pod, please. Um, it's fun, but it'll be even more fun. If there's a subscriber, that would be great. And that could be you. Yeah. It could be you. It could be the first one or the second.
00:12:20
Speaker
Why not? Rate us. Tell us Bob what you think. It all keeps the lights running here on ADHD. The podcast drops every Tuesday on Apple and Spotify. And if you want to see our salt and pepper visages, I was just going French there for a second. Yeah. Then you can see us on the YouTube is
00:12:49
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and you leave a comment. We've got budgets on there as well. Yeah. As joint mayors, the finances are unbelievably important. I mean, we were talking about the tax, but the financial machinery of ADHD bill is vast. It's an entire town.
00:13:13
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and our budget. And for some reason, the two people who need accountants and have tax issues, they put us in charge of the ADHD real budget.
00:13:29
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Yeah. Well, when we were elected, our campaign kind of conveniently left out that aspect of our personality. Right. Yeah. No, I think our mayor, our mayor's campaign was typically ADHD, which was like, we, we promised everything and. Yeah. Delivered. Make ADHD, make ADHD feel great again.
00:14:00
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Right. I don't think that was our tag tagline that we ever had. It was very difficult to, uh, to, to say. Yeah. All right. Well, uh, what, what, what do we want to say about the budget other than I think that we just have, we just said that we're crap at it, but we are going to solve, uh, booking expensive guests.
00:14:28
Speaker
By the way, if you want to be a guest on this show, let us know. Let us know. What's the worst that can happen? What's the worst that can happen? We have nothing to lose.
00:14:43
Speaker
We've got like a little list going somewhere of a potential guest. But yeah, it's here for you. And it's blank. Actually, no, I've got one penciled in, but I think that in order to get this guest, we will need at least some subscriber base. Otherwise, I'm just saying that you're just going to be talking into the void, mate.
00:15:09
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We know one. So once we kind of get something that is fairly decent, then we can get some specialists in perhaps.
00:15:24
Speaker
Uh, number four, especially cause like, yeah, let's face it, like, we're like, like two white guys, you know, 56 year old. She's like, well, what we really after is like having as make, try and make it as inclusive as possible. So, you know, we'll, uh, you know, we'll, um, you know, we want to even things out a bit. Right. Cause, uh, how many podcasts are there with, uh, two white guys talking to each other?
00:15:52
Speaker
Exactly. It must be a million. I don't know if I said this, but it's like, you know what? This world needs another podcast with two white guys talking to each other. Right. Yeah.
00:16:10
Speaker
Yeah the world needs that. All right so homework from the previous episode now this is I've done a very ADHD thing here which is come up with I've been saying this for a few weeks now come up look on TikTok come up with some hacks about how to do housework
00:16:32
Speaker
a bit to be a better writer. And I failed. I failed. Yeah, again, I think it's part of my brain doesn't want to be better at housework and is refusing to find a hack for it. That's what I'm, that's what I'm starting to suspect there. Yeah. It's a bit of a theme in my house, housework. I just don't remember to do it. You know, and then I'm, I'm slightly the other way that I do a lot of it. Oh, you're just trying. Okay. Yeah.
00:17:04
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but all right yeah i do like the minimum you know oh i'm pretty much doing the maximum okay so uh all right well next on the agenda the last thing on the agenda
00:17:20
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Where are you taking us today? Polio. Okay. Well, Martin, I'm going to take us for a stroll down to the left field farm, which is just on the outskirts of ADHD field here. And we're going to have a little chat about hyperactivity. And what does that look like in specifically adults? Okay. All right.
Understanding Adult Hyperactivity
00:17:45
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Well, let's jump in our mayor's car and go off to a left field farm.
00:18:03
Speaker
lovely ah so yeah we're gonna talk about oh bird sweet nice yes yeah we're on the farm if you listen yeah okay at christmas okay okay so we're actually going to talk now about what is generally accepted as the most prevalent aspect of ADHD which is
00:18:32
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hyperactivity and impulsivity, okay? And I thought it'd be kind of really interesting to talk about how that shows up both externally and internally, okay? Because it's kind of like a misperception.
00:18:57
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Misperception. Misconce... Mis... Misconception. That's it. Misconception. Is that right? I was right. What does that sound wrong? Okay. Misconception. It sounds better now, you see. Thanks, Martin. That is sort of about, you know, outwardly physical, outward externalized physical signs, demonstration of hyperactivity, you know.
00:19:24
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fidgeting and not being able to stand still and stimming and all the kind of things like that. But it's actually much more than that. There's way much more than that. And there's obviously the other half of the discussion is that actually because women tend to demonstrate it and much more like to demonstrate it internally, okay.
00:19:52
Speaker
All right. Yeah. And so there's some reasons, there's some people give reasons for that. They said that in many cultures, if not all, and it'd be interesting, you know, if we've got anyone listening, watching, leave in the comments if their cultures where this is any different, because it's, I read that it said many cultures are, is it all cultures? Anyway,
00:20:15
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Most cultures permit boys to be noisy and more demonstrative than girls, which can increase the stigma around ADHD for girls and women, which may lead them to more likely mask their symptoms and essentially internalize their ADHD symptoms. All right. Yeah, that kind of makes the kind of rings true in my head.
00:20:42
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Yeah. And therefore given that, you know, there's people talk about this, it's one of the main reasons why there's a forgotten generation of women who internalized it and they were misdiagnosed with depression or all kinds of nonsense. Which is amazing. Amazing. Yeah.
00:21:05
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Um, but in my case though, see, it's not, you know, always black and white. I don't know how it was with you, Martin, but I internalized it. When I was at school, I did not show any signs of hyperactivity at all. At least I don't think I did. I pretty much think I internalized it.
00:21:27
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Yeah, because as you were saying before, it's quite typical for if you're a kid with ADHD that you're a fidget arse, right? And you're just running around and bouncing up and down in your seat. And I don't remember necessarily being too much like that, like you. I was a bit, but I think it was more internal than it was. Totally.
00:21:57
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externally. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, like, one of the reasons I think for that, or just one of my interpretations, but you know, I'm just kind of thinking out loud. But I, when I, when I went through school in the 70s in the UK, school was a pretty scary place. You know, if you're a kid, and you stood out,
Sports as an ADHD Outlet
00:22:23
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You would, there's a big, big, big possibility, very strong possibility that you would be bullied. Right. So I, I think I probably internalized it. I think a lot of boys internalized it, um, uh, in English schools in the seventies and eighties, because you're like, holy crap, I need to keep this thing under wraps.
00:22:50
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And I remember I had a bouncing knee. I know that I had a bouncing knee. And I got to this stage where I used to sit on my leg. I used to wrap it under my self and sit on my foot. And I'm pretty sure that was a masking thing.
00:23:10
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Yeah, you've said that before. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, I, I still do. I, I would fiddle with my pencil or my pen or whatever it was that had my hand like that. That was my little fidget toy. If you're like at school, I would just twirl that thing around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still the same now. If I'm, especially if I'm doing a presentation, you know, with work and stuff, I have to have a pencil in my hand.
00:23:38
Speaker
Oh, yeah, it's can't do it without I have like so this this is my emotional support drink. Right. I've I've had an emotional support drink for years now, which is where I will take it into meetings. And it's it's my little it's
00:24:05
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I'm not entirely sure. I mean, it is like a little
00:24:10
Speaker
the little emotional support thing, it just helps me concentrate. I can pick it up, I can have a drink. It kind of like helps my, it helps me concentrate on the meeting and it lowers my anxiety as well. So that's why I have it. I find, I found, I mean, it's like really early days for me, but I'm just like picking up on stuff all the time. I found, I always wondered why, when I'm on the phone to someone,
00:24:39
Speaker
I have to be walking around and I pace up and down, whether it's in the garden or in the house, I pace up and down. I can't sit still and have a phone conversation. No. I find it's easier to present, if you like. So if I'm in a room presenting, if I'm standing up,
00:25:01
Speaker
Um, and doing a bit of a, you know, trying to, uh, and doing, you know, as you say, just walking around, sitting down and presenting like, like this is like hard. It's harder. It's not hard. It's just hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:20
Speaker
Yeah, it's strange. I mean, for me, it doesn't even matter who I'm talking to. I could be talking to my son or my father or whoever it is, could be my girlfriend. I have to get up instinctively. And, you know, when I call them and I walk around a literally pace up and down, it's just quite bizarre.
00:25:43
Speaker
Um, yeah, there is, I think, I think most of my physical manifestations of hyperactivity kind of showed up after school, you know, when I lost it, like, Oh, I can demonstrate it. You know, I could like let, let the beast out. Yeah.
00:26:00
Speaker
Because because because it's usually the other way around. So usually the hyperactivity part, the age in the ADHD comes out a lot when you're a kid and that kind of starts to die down when you're an adolescent. And then when you're an adult, it's usually fairly like you've learned how to
00:26:23
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control parts of it. It doesn't go away for some people. It continues. So it's interesting that you say that you let your ADHD flag, your hyperactivity flag fly when you left school.
00:26:42
Speaker
Yeah, totally. And even in sport and stuff like that, sport helped me a lot. It's really, I think, really bad to suppress all of that stuff. So, you know, if you have sport or you have something else, dance or whatever, there's an outlet for it. That's so helpful.
00:27:01
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So helpful, like exercise, sport. I know that I went swimming as a kid. My mum would take me and my friends every Saturday. And that was right. That was that was so good for my brain. I didn't understand why I just knew that after I'd done sport, after done swimming, that, yeah, that my brain was happy. That's that's all I knew. Yeah.
00:27:27
Speaker
But here's the thing, though, with whatever sport I did, including swimming, okay, for me, it's all or nothing. I can't just like do like, like a half effort, or like with swimming, I have to beat the the kind of water into a froth. Because I just think that I'd never got the concept of floating.
00:27:52
Speaker
Never got it. And with any sport though, it's, I have to give it everything. I can never like give it like a, you know, if it's like golf or something, like a little half shot or whatever. No, it's everything. Right. Yeah.
00:28:07
Speaker
And that would be, I'm guessing, you would have to buy a really decent pair of golf clubs. You would join us often. It's also limits. It creates a bit of a problem with your overall score. If you're on the edge of the grain, you want a little half putt. You want to hit it at 300 yards. It's a bit of a problem. Oh, I see. You just want to...
00:28:36
Speaker
So actually being at the shooting range was your happy place, surely? Yeah, exactly. Just whacking balls. Yeah, but clearly I just wanted to get my dopamine hit with everything that I did, you know, and just like, you know, given it like half effort, it didn't do it for me.
00:28:57
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Oh, right. Yeah. I think I was more in it for the, for the feeling I had afterwards, like the calmness I would have after exercise. That was more my, well, that was my goal. Sounds good. Yeah. I never had that.
00:29:15
Speaker
I was, I was, I mean, I did every sport going at school, everything, everything. And if I, if I, I was like the top runner and I always came first because no one else cared, no one else bothered, you know.
00:29:31
Speaker
you know it's like yeah you just took advantage of everyone's legs i was saying what it took you seriously nice yeah yeah and you with your famously long legs i'm you know i'm not i'm not surprised exactly exactly exactly well yeah my my stature was a problem yeah yeah i was explaining to someone this uh last week actually that
00:29:58
Speaker
is like a son of the sister of my girlfriend. He's like, he's like 13 or whatever. And I was telling him an anecdote about, you know, oh, when I was your age, we had compulsory rugby. Right? Yeah. And doesn't matter. It didn't matter how big or small you were.
00:30:23
Speaker
And I was little and I was, you know, I was slim, borderline skinny. And it's like this guy who was like 10 times bigger than you running in front of you in the mud. And you had to throw yourself at his legs and bring him down. So I improvised, I improvised. I just like swung a leg at him and tripped him up. And I got sent off, sent to the changing rooms.
00:30:52
Speaker
You know what, on very similar story, the first day at secondary school, we went to, we had a games lesson and we all trotted down and the PE instructor said, okay, right, if you wanna play football, you go hang out over there. If you wanna play rugby, go out over there. And I thought it was just for that afternoon.
00:31:22
Speaker
So I've been playing football for years. You know what? I'll just go and I'll just do this rugby thing just for a change. And it was for the rest of my secondary school. I was suckered. So I had to play hooker.
00:31:44
Speaker
which is like there's the scrum, isn't it? And then the ball gets passed out to the hooker, basically just gets the ball out from everyone's legs and throws it to the first person. And that's what I did because I was like, I was small. I was a small kid. And I couldn't bring anyone down. So that's all I did was just
00:32:11
Speaker
just put me hands in amongst a load of kids kicking boots and grab a ball. I used to put my hand up for every sport. I was in the basketball team. Wow. Because obviously because of your famous height, your famous long, long legs. I never actually played. They just made me keep time.
00:32:39
Speaker
No. It's true. Right. True story. Because like, really? Well, I'm not here to tell lies. Right. Because obviously, you would have just shown everyone up, wouldn't you? With your constant three pointers. Exactly. Then I got into the field hockey team.
00:33:00
Speaker
Right? And I was always, I was just always a substitute and always on the bench and everything and it's like five matches and it's like never, I was never put on. And then all of a sudden it's like, like 15 minutes to go and a match, someone got injured and the train said, all right, Paul, this is it, this is your moment. So I was like, oh God, it was in the middle of winter.
00:33:24
Speaker
And I was dressed, I had my school clothes on over my shorts and everything. In my rush to get undressed, to get on the field, I got undressed really, really quickly. In the meantime, I just trod all of my clothes into the mud, right? In my kind of like...
00:33:49
Speaker
And then I got there, it was like, okay, ready. And then this guy got up again and he wasn't injured anymore. And it was all for nothing. I said like, just look, look behind back. All my fucking clothes are caked in mud. He just like stopped into the ground. That's terrible. I did, I did, uh,
00:34:14
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Eventually, I was allowed out of rugby and I did long distance running. That was my sport. Because it was just basically me and a couple of friends and all we worked out, all you had to do was just to run outside of the view of the school.
00:34:39
Speaker
And that's all you had to do. So we kind of ran down outside school, down this kind of country path and then into the woods and then we'd stop and then we'd look for discarded porn mags that will be lying around under a bush maybe.
00:35:00
Speaker
Uh, and that's what we, uh, so we just go on a bit of a porn mag hunt, uh, for awhile. And then when we decided it was time to run back, then we would run back. Blimey.
00:35:14
Speaker
The irony is that because our schools were quite close by, we maybe ran on the same, more or less the same territory. But, um, yeah, I, as I said before, I was the only kid that actually bothered to try and I was always like first or second. And we used to like, I was part of where I ran was at Epson Downs race course. It was quite a long way home of the Derby.
00:35:42
Speaker
the Derby. Yeah, the Derby. Yeah, that was that. Yeah. So that's horse racing, legendary horse racing course. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. And hyperactivity. Now what? What? Where is hyperactivity for me? It's almost all internalized, just craziness still. You know, just a really, really active mind, really active.
00:36:12
Speaker
Right. As I've probably said before, I find it easier. So when my hyperactivity comes out, I can sit quite still mostly. I will doodle in my notepad.
00:36:31
Speaker
Uh, as I've probably said on the previous app, so that kind of helps quite quieten my brain down. Just, just that noodling or fitting with a pencil, which is a little bit annoying when you actually drop the pencil, which is fine. The, the, the first time, you know, I'm still, and I'll be twiddling with a pencil or a pen or something. And then I drop it a second time. I'm like,
00:36:54
Speaker
Ah, annoying. It's like, oh no, everyone's like looking at me like he's dropped his pen again, Jesus Christ. I know that my wife's legs start to kind of do that kind of bouncy thing, that kind of knee bouncing.
00:37:17
Speaker
Yeah. So I used to do that a lot. Yeah. I used to do that a lot. If she's tired, like once she's tired, then it's almost like your efforts to control your, your stimming or whatever it is that you're doing, kind of like your, your two tireset kind of.
00:37:39
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comes out more. Okay, okay. Interesting. I think that's, that's interesting for me, I think. I find that in terms of internal internal kind of hyperactivity, I find that social media is a total nightmare for that. You know, my brain
00:38:00
Speaker
it's already kind of like on borderline overload with like stuff that I need to do and keep in mind of blah, blah, blah. But if I'm like doom scrolling through social, I just just guess I get overload. It's just really bad. And then I just shut down. I just like, okay, it's too much and I can't do anything at all. Does that say for you or?
00:38:28
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Yeah, that's a kind of a distraction thing, isn't it? And then you end up just hyper focusing on watching TikTok videos for an hour or two or Twitter or whatever. Yeah. Well, TikTok is beyond my limit. TikTok tips me over. I can't stand TikTok. It's just too much.
00:38:50
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It's rude too much. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. Oh my God. Okay.
Driving: An ADHD Mind Soother?
00:39:02
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Other than that, you know, hyperactivity, when you're an adult, you've kind of got, usually you've kind of, you've learned how to control yourself. Mostly it's just, well, for me, as I said, when you get tired or
00:39:19
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This, it still comes out in other ways. Oh, I tell you what really, really helps me with organizing my thoughts. Driving my car. Oh, I love driving. Oh yeah. If I drive to my, go and see my son in Turin, which is like a two and a bit hours drive, I can sort out so much stuff.
00:39:49
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And sometimes, yeah, it's just like in my car suddenly I find peace and calm and I can kind of manage my thoughts. Isn't it bizarre?
00:40:06
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That's my thinking of it. So my wife and me, I'm not good, so I'm not good. I'm fine, but at town, at town driving or urban driving, where there's a lot going on, there's signs, there's people, I have to be really focused on it. And if someone wants to talk to me, I find it very
00:40:33
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difficult to concentrate on them and on driving around as well.
00:40:39
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Where and where is Trish is actually better than the she's better at driving around cities and towns, whereas I'm way better at drive at at at highway driving or motorway driving those long stretches of hours and hours like, you know, so I'll drive down to Trish's family down in there about six, seven hours away.
00:41:10
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And I'm happy for luck. I'm just on those long stretches, hundreds of miles. There you go. Same with me. Exactly the same. I lived in Palomo for three years. I used to go out of my mind in Palomo, out of my mind
00:41:32
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And it's funny because people in that town, they could tell that you want from Palermo. If they made a kind of like really crazy maneuver in front of you in the car, they would just look at you like, yeah, you just don't get it, do you? You're clearly a foreigner because this is just how it works here. Have you just not got it yet?
00:41:57
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But I couldn't, couldn't deal with it. So you have to drive like a nutbag, basically? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do. And that was fine. You have to. It's officially the worst city in, it's worse than Napoli, officially. It's the worst city in, for traffic in, in Italy.
00:42:18
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just mayhem, mayhem. Yeah. Well, my son, Tom used to come and visit me. He said, dad, I could never drive here. This is just madness. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it can, but yeah, but on the open street, on the open roads, lovely. Love it.
00:42:41
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Yeah, it's just enough information to keep your brain happy. It's a bit like doodling on a piece of paper or having like ADHD focused music going on like, you know, and your brain calm comes down. And you can, and you can kind of think about shit, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially if you've got I like to have radio forum on the radio.
00:43:07
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you know, in the background, you know, dipping in and out of Radio 4, that's always good. You know, a bit of Woman's Hour, you know. I like a bit of Woman's Hour. There's certain things that come up on, like, Radio 4, BBC Radio 4, I should say, that my heart sinks at. So if it goes, I nicked up, it's you and yours, and I'm like, oh, God. Oh, you and yours, yeah, that, yeah.
00:43:36
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It's really annoying. It's a program about consumer rights. Who's the latest presenter? The new presenter of Woman's Out. She's amazing. She's amazing. I've not heard it before. Very cool lady.
00:43:54
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Right. But generally, I think nine times out of 10, if I, when I go to the UK and I jump into a high car or whatever, and I switch it to a radio four, there's something interesting going on. It's an
British Radio: A Nostalgic Calm
00:44:06
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interesting program about, I don't know, literature, history, politics, forests, fungus, who knows? All kinds of stuff, random. You and yours.
00:44:22
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Oh, but maybe the most calming program on Radio 4 is the shipping on forecasts. Lovely shipping for WoW. Forkast. Dogger, Fisher, German bite. Love it. It's like poetry. Bay of Biscay. Good. Mm hmm.
00:44:44
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If anyone doesn't know what the shipping forecast is, get on the Googles. Get on the Googles. I think it was, wasn't it? It's like sheer poetry. I think it was voted one of the best poetry things of the 20th century. Really?
00:45:06
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Oh, there you go. I think so. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it is definitely recognized as a as a very poetic experience listening to the shipping forecast. Right. OK. And the and the and the other one that I quite like Fritz Fritz very relaxing tones is Garden's question time.
00:45:34
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okay yeah yeah members of the audience talk about their plants on the north facing wall with a limey soil and trouble with black spots on the leaves nice i am yeah gardeners question timers yes
00:45:53
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I like that. Yeah. Yeah. The farmer's stuff, you get at six in the morning, early in the morning, you get the farmer's programs. And I took about the last time I listened to it, they were talking about carrot crops. Like, learned a whole lot of stuff about carrots I didn't know about. That's very interesting. I don't think I've ever got up early enough for the Oh, no, I've heard it, but not for a long time.
00:46:21
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Yeah. Nice. I guess, I guess probably because we live outside of our countries now, it's kind of like a takes you back, you know, you'd like as if you're like sitting in a pub in front of an open fire with a, with a, you know, a damp Labrador and a tepid point in your hand. You know, it's a bit like that. Yeah.
00:46:48
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Okay. I'm just getting my mouse, mouse back. It seems to have gone to, gone to sleep. But talking, talking of, um, British programs, what came to mind. So do you remember the herbs? And there was a character called deal the dog. Yep. Uh, dog was like the haptic hyperactive.
00:47:12
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because he had like the lazy lion who was like the cool and oh and then there was dill the dog who was um i've actually cut and paste the description he was a hyperactive dog who was always getting into scrapes which in the ventures of parsley provided parsley which is the lion with a rich source of yeah
00:47:36
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provided Parsley with a rich source of his laconic comments. He was constantly chasing his tail and was the source of a great annoyance for Constable Knappweid. I don't even remember Constable Knappweid. I don't remember him either. I'm passing it along. Although, Parsley, yes, do the dog yes. Yeah, they're quite cool songs but they used to sing. Oh right. I know that's um
00:48:05
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All right. Well, I think, uh, if there's one thing, one, one thing I have learned, or I just try to remember myself is like exercises. Good for you. Yeah. Yeah. And it's good. No matter what your age totally is. Yeah. No matter what your age. Yeah. Cool. Okay. All right.
00:48:32
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Okay, well let's make our way back to the post office. Where's the car? Bring it round the front. Yeah, bring it round. Start her up. It's you now, Paul.
00:48:53
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Oh, okay. I thought that was longer. That sound effects. Okay. Anyway. Yeah. It's, it's just a short car, car ride. Yeah. Fair enough.
00:49:04
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Yeah, because we were in the, yeah, fair enough, because we were in the left field farm, left field farm. So anyway, your feedback is very vital to us, it says here. We'll be reading almost all of your comments and we'll include a regular feature on our future podcasts with a pick and mix of our faves. Our discretion is almost as important as Marty's biscuit tin. And we'll always be careful to ask before sharing your comments. So please subscribe and interact.
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