Shea Takazono and his wife are the lead pastors of The Testimony, a church community based in Waipahu, HI. 

Keegan and Shea discuss their time in Bible college, charismatic vs. traditional church cultures, leadership failures, and how to create space for different expressions of faith. 

Note from Keegan: This one starts a bit abruptly as we had recorded about 30mins earlier and had to re-record due to some tech issues. The first file got corrupted (sorry Shea!), and we were only able to use the second recording.

#9 My Friend the Charismatic Preacher - Shea Takazono

Lots of problems recording this one. The guest was extremely problematic. Against my better judgement, I have uploaded it here. No video :(

Keegan Drummond was part of an Evangelical community in Hawaii for over 10 years. After attending bible college, he went to the mainland to pursue an M.Div. While in divinity school, he entered the Roman Catholic Church.

#8 My Friend the Puritan - Keegan Drummond

Ayaka joined the youth ministry at 13 where she served in many capacities until graduating high school. She attended art school in the mainland where she (mostly) left church altogether.

Keegan and Ayaka discuss gender, purity culture, and the aesthetics of evangelicalism.

#7 My Friend the "Sketchy" Scene Kid- Ayaka Takao

In this episode, Keegan and Nalu discuss burnout, doubt, and sketchy chicken from an unhoused person.

#6 My Friend the Outcast - Nalu Kapu

Keegan and ʻAlohi navigate exes, church hurt, and a pesky lawnmower.

# 5 My Friend the Ex Youth Pastor - ʻAlohilani McDonald

Dating at church, burning out volunteers, and whether pastors should earn a living wage --Keegan and Quinn tackle some big questions about life in evangelical churches.

#4 My Friend My Brother - Quinn Drummond

Sháni and Keegan discuss the ethics around testimonies, short-term mission trips, and youth church camps.

#3 My Friend the Token Testimony - Sháni Pamatz

Kamahaʻo Fung was born into a cult based in Honolulu. His family later converted to Christianity, and he was raised in an Evangelical church. He went to Bible college, led worship, and worked in that church while being a closeted gay man.

#1 My Friend the (Now) Christian Ex-Cult Member - Kamahaʻo Fung

Keegan and Malia talk about Evangelical excellence, being judgemental, and dodgeball. 

#2 My Friend the Pastor's Kid - Malia Shimabukuro

10 years ago, Keegan Drummond did ministry in an Evangelical church with his best friends. Where are they now? 

Sabbatical Saga