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A Modern Take on a Retro Activity - with Scott Walker, Whitney Winkels & Patrick Finn

S6 E286 · Beyond Retirement
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What if your retirement party didn’t involve a bad chicken dinner and awkward speeches… but a full-on rock show?

In this episode, Jacquie sits down with Scott Walker (newly retired, lifelong “closet musician”) and Patrick Finn + Whitney Winkels from Lutefish, the company behind a low-latency setup that lets musicians rehearse together online, in real time. Scott shares how he used Lutefish to reunite his college band, The Resistors, for a retirement-party performance after decades apart, and why the weekly rehearsals became about more than music: friendship, identity, and getting back to the parts of yourself you set aside during the “35-year detour” of career and family. If you’ve ever wondered, “Who am I without my job?” this episode will give you a fresh, practical way to answer it.  

What we covered

  • Why Scott refused a traditional retirement party (and what he did instead) 
  • How Lutefish makes real-time online rehearsal possible (low latency) 
  • The weekly rehearsal cadence that rebuilt connection and friendship 
  • “You can’t make new old friends” and why frequency matters 
  • The band’s origin story: dumb luck, dorm rooms, and finding rare musicians 
  • Playing live with Scott’s son (and why it mattered) 
  • The “secret identity” concept: build it before retirement 
  • A simple prompt: what made you lose track of time between ages 10–20? 
  • Why it’s never over for musicians (and creatives of any kind) 

 Key takeaways 

  • Retirement isn’t the end of your identity—it’s the return to it. 
  • Connection gets easier when you’re doing something together (not just “catching up”). 
  • A deadline can be a gift: it forces momentum and practice. 
  • Your “secret identity” is often hiding in what you loved as a kid. 
  • Technology can support what matters most: relationships, joy, and meaning.  

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Transcript

Rethinking Retirement: Beyond the Traditional Vision

00:00:03
Speaker
Retirement. That's what we're all aiming at, right? But exactly what does that mean? conjures up visions of endless days of golf, drinks with little umbrellas in them on a tropical beach, feet up reading a book.
00:00:16
Speaker
Is that what it's all about? I don't think so. Life would get pretty dull after a while without anything meaningful to do, don't you think?

Exploring Life After Retirement: Jackie's Mission

00:00:25
Speaker
I'm Jackie Doucette, and I'm on a mission to discover exactly what life is like beyond retirement.
00:00:30
Speaker
Join me while I chat with people who've already done it, who've retired to something rather than from something. Let's find out together exactly what's waiting for us when we say goodbye to that nine to five.

Introduction to Guests: Scott, Patrick, and Whitney

00:00:52
Speaker
Hi everyone, welcome to another episode of Beyond Retirement. I'm your host, Jackie Doucette. And today I've got a room full of people with me. We're gonna be talking a little bit about retirement parties and music and a lot of stuff. So I've got Scott Walker with me who is from the band, The Resisters.
00:01:09
Speaker
I've got Patrick Finn and Whitney Winkles who are from a company known as Lutefish. And instead of trying to figure out what they all do, I'm going to let them talk about their things and their jobs themselves. Hi everybody. Welcome to the show.
00:01:24
Speaker
Hey, Jackie. Maybe we can start off.

Lootfish: Pandemic-born Music Collaboration Tool

00:01:28
Speaker
um Whitney or Patrick, maybe you can just give us a little brief intro to what loot fish is so that people know what we're talking about before we get into Scott's story.
00:01:41
Speaker
Yeah, sure. That'd be great. So ah as you said, we're here with Luke Fish and about three, four years ago, when we were all trapped in our houses and and unable to leave, it it dawned on us that that we weren't able to play music online like we were able to do sort of other things. So we replaced a lot of our work with video calls just kind of like the one we're on right now.
00:02:06
Speaker
um But when we tried to do that with music, it turned out that didn't work so well. The audio quality wasn't great. The timing was impossible to line up because there was such a delay between when I made a noise and when somebody else heard it that by the time they reacted to it, we weren't in tempo. So we we just had this conjecture. Is there any way that we could get get it so that people could actually play music in a meaningful way over the Internet?
00:02:32
Speaker
And that is what ultimately became Lootfish. So we we we got got to work putting together prototypes and and sort of how this possibly could be and ended ended up coming up with a a dedicated device called the Lootfish Stream.
00:02:47
Speaker
where you can plug it directly into your home internet, plug set up your audio files, and then join a session. Looks a lot like your regular video conferencing session, but the difference is the audio runs all through the Lute Fish stream with a super fast speed or what we call low low low low low latency.
00:03:05
Speaker
so that you can transmit the audio from one place to another in under, say, 35 milliseconds or 35 over a thousandth of a second. So super, super fast and still be able to play music. And it was it was kind of a pipe dream. Like, is this is there any way we could do this?
00:03:21
Speaker
And there's some caveats to it. and You got to be on a really good Internet connection like fiber optic or cable. And you got to be within, say, 500 miles or so of one another. But Ultimately, we're able to get that idea and that hype dream to come to reality. And I've been spending the last year since our launch just spreading the word about Bluefish. And we're lucky enough to meet Scott and his band sort of early on. and And they were some early adopters.
00:03:48
Speaker
And it's been just great to hear their story about how it enabled them to to play music. So.

Scott's Retirement and Musical Revival with Lootfish

00:03:54
Speaker
So Whitney, when when we're all finished here today, what's your dream idea of what people will get from our little chat?
00:04:05
Speaker
Okay, I think it's just more of... how to make more music or how to make things more meaningful in your life. mean, Scott, you'll tell us your story here, you know, in retirement, but music is such a universal language and a way to communicate, in a way to just have fun. And it's an emotionally connecting way as well. And now you can stay connected with people. So I think it's just all about connection and music and fulfillment of life in a way when we walk away today and just how people can be more fulfilled. So Scott, now it's up to you.
00:04:33
Speaker
you were the one who was getting ready to retire or had retired and your friends were all over the place. Tell us your story. Well, it's interesting hearing Patrick tell his story because I was leading the parallel life on the receiving end of of his pipe dream. I think I was the client he was dreaming up.
00:04:52
Speaker
I'm his prime demographic, right? A guy circling 60, newly retired, getting back to life 1.0, which was that life as a musician. And to Whitney's point,
00:05:05
Speaker
man, there is nothing better than playing music with people. yeah it is It is hard to compare anything else to. um But, you know, and I think without the pandemic, we would have found a workaround, but here we all were stuck in our houses.
00:05:21
Speaker
And it kind of got our dormant band text thread um kicked up again because we all had time on our hands for a change. You know, we were still running our companies and and working, but the world slowed down. I wasn't running to airports, you know, three times a week and all that madness.
00:05:38
Speaker
So I started thinking about music again and what ifs and started writing songs again. And then, you know, the text thread with my high school slash college bandmates, you know, kicked up and i was like,
00:05:49
Speaker
Well, two live in Florida, one lives a few hundred miles away. I was living in Atlanta at the time, and then I moved here to near Charleston.

Planning a Musical Retirement Party

00:05:57
Speaker
We're scattered. How are we going to do this? Right. And, and I also come from the AV industry. I spent my entire, uh, two Dotto life, uh, you know, running an AV and acoustics firm. So I understood all this stuff about latency because.
00:06:09
Speaker
We deploy video conferencing for major clients. My acoustics background, I understood 30 milliseconds and you get to 60 milliseconds, you're talking about slapback echo. Now you're you're lost, right?
00:06:20
Speaker
um So being the newly retired guy, my my nickname is the man with too much time on his hands meant I could go research this stuff. And ah my oldest son actually works for QSC, an audio company, and I was looking up something about what they were introducing at NAMM.
00:06:37
Speaker
And I stumbled on, on Lutefish and they were just launching the Lutefish, you know, solution at NAMM a couple of years ago. And I read every single thing on your website, every word, by the way, good job. And cause I, I wanted to pick the right platform because we're going to buy, you know, five of these things and deploy them all over America. and And I wanted it to work cause didn't want to try and fail and try and fail. Meanwhile, i was retiring and um my
00:07:08
Speaker
VP of marketing, God bless her, is one of my best friends in the world. She's worked for me for 20 years. She just absolutely would not let me not have a retirement party. And I was like, Julie, I'm just going to peace out. I'm just going to, no one will know I'm here. Irish exit. I'm very good at this.
00:07:22
Speaker
She's like, no, you know, funerals are for the living. I'm sorry. You're going to do that. And so, you know, and I'm like, I'm going have friends flying in from California and Oregon and New York and DC, you know, I don't want them to fly in. We go to Ramada Inn and we have a bad chicken dinner and they have to give a toast to me. It's just horrible.
00:07:42
Speaker
You know, it's a waste of time, right? So my thought was to do the exact opposite and have an absolute potentially spectacular train wreck of an evening, but it'll be something you'll remember forever. I'm going to perform, which I haven't done in 30 years with my college band, which we haven't done in 38 years.
00:07:59
Speaker
How about that? you know um And so an idea was born, but it's too time consuming and expensive to ask the other guys to fly to my house once a month to

Reuniting the Band with Technology: Overcoming Logistical Challenges

00:08:10
Speaker
rehearse. it's But you got to rehearse. We haven't done this in 30 years. you know um And Lute Fish was the only solution. right It really was. And it worked. you know I bought two of them.
00:08:21
Speaker
We did a test with me and our keyboard player who who only lives a few hundred miles away and it worked. So we bought the rest of them and we could rehearse once a week and we just do one song a week. Just keep it very, you know, one hour boom in out.
00:08:34
Speaker
And that's great because it's hyper efficient. It's super fun and it works. And and we could actually, you know, stand and deliver because it's it's one thing to sit in the car and sing. Everybody can do it there. It's one thing to sit in a chair with infinite takes. And that's easy. Stand and sing and play all at the same time and sync with other people. That's that's what you practice for. Right.
00:08:55
Speaker
And anyway, it was a great solution. The party went fantastically well. um There are nine levels of hell worse it could have been. of course, as the performer, I'm like, oh, I want that guitar solo back, you know, ah but it was great. And I really thank these guys for having a solution. And we use it every week to this day. And we're learning more songs and getting ready to go out and play more. So it's fantastic.
00:09:19
Speaker
So when you first started this, like you said you you wanted to make sure that it was a solution that was going to work because you didn't want to you know try and fail, try and fail, do a lot of things. yeah Did you get some pushback from your ah bandmates at the start?
00:09:35
Speaker
Well, because we have all lived on Zoom and Teams and WebEx calls, we know and we're all musicians, we kind of understand that latency. It's fine enough for for you know communication like this, but it's absolutely not fine.
00:09:48
Speaker
ah for playing music. In fact, you know in my day job for 35 years at MIT, we helped set up their initial distance learning network and they were trying to teach music classes between Cambridge and Singapore. And you can, but not in real time, you can't play together. And this was with you know crazy high bandwidth that MIT had. So i I've understood this a long time and I was like, guys, this is they're claiming 30 milliseconds, that's the golden number, let's see.
00:10:17
Speaker
And, you know, and and Patrick, you can tell me, but it seems to be getting better and better. Every time we rehearse, it's like tighter and tighter. We we were doing some songs last week, ah a Tom Petty song, Don't Do Me Like That, and a Cars song, Just What I Need It. And they all have these stabs in it, you know, and we were right on those stabs. I'm like, that is amazing that we could pull that off. So

Music's Role in Rekindling Friendships

00:10:37
Speaker
You know, again, I'm the man with too much time. So I did my due diligence. I looked at all the competitors.
00:10:42
Speaker
I looked at every comment that everybody had put and people were pretty positive on this one and it's worked for us. And what did it do in terms of bringing your friendship together? like that's There's going to be a lot of people here who are listening who might be musicians and might understand that part. But I think what they're really going to wonder is about how it brought you guys together.
00:11:09
Speaker
You know, i think there's a saying something like you you can't make new old friends, you know, or something like that. It's like we are friends since 17, 18 years old. It's very hard to replicate it. You can make new friends, other 60 year olds. Cool. You know, you got to do that too.
00:11:27
Speaker
But there is just something about tapping into that reservoir of people who knew you when you were still forming who you were. and I think in the lead up to the retirement party, we only got together for two long weekends of in-person practice. And and there's a lot of time there spent, you know, just kind of chit chatting and hanging out.
00:11:48
Speaker
And sometimes to the detriment of we we need to get back to practicing because y'all are getting on a plane Sunday. ah But doing it weekly, what happens is you kind of get into a cadence. Like you remember, I remember who this guy is. That's because you have the frequency, right? It's not just one and done. It's every week, right? So now you get to know their lives a little bit. What's going on in their personal life, their kids, marriages, whatever.
00:12:11
Speaker
and And that's helpful because the frequency means you're not having to play catch up all the time. Like, okay. let's get, we got to clear all the debris out and then we can have a real kind of, no. but And the way we do it's great. We just kind of get on and five minutes in, we're making music, right? And and then we'll take a break and somebody else will say, oh, I had sick dog this week or whatever. And, you know, but it's not like you have to waste a lot of time because, I mean, literally we just hit join and boom, we're in the session.
00:12:38
Speaker
There is no like 30 minute handshake. We're making music. It's great just to jump right in. So, Scott, if I if i may ask question, I ah i haven't heard yet.

The Serendipitous Formation of Scott's College Band

00:12:48
Speaker
yeah And it's just selfish that I'd love to.
00:12:50
Speaker
Can you tell us the story of like how how the band got together and what you guys played and what that era was like? Yeah, absolutely. and And we talk about this, the the kind of just sheer um coincidence, dumb luck, accident. You know, I even talked about it at the show.
00:13:07
Speaker
So um I grew up in Columbia, South Carolina and um and yeah pretty small town. Not a lot of rock bands in high schools at that time. I think there were there was one other band.
00:13:20
Speaker
um And of course, you know there's 10 guitar players for every, say, keyboard player. right So i i I found out there was this guy named Wes who had a Juno 7 keyboard and you know was a cool dude. was my age and he just went to a different high school.
00:13:37
Speaker
And Wes to this day is the only keyboard player I ever played with because how often do you just run into one at age 16 or 17? and so Wes and I played an band in high school, and then we both ended up at Clemson, which is great.
00:13:53
Speaker
And I thought we would room together, but Wes got in the Honors College and I did not. ah Dummy. And but the guy who was his roommate, Kyle, is our saxophone player.
00:14:04
Speaker
Just random luck of the draw. Kyle got to room with Wes and Kyle played in the marching band and played saxophone. Well, how often do you run into a saxophone player? Right. And in the 80s, there was a lot of songs by a lot of bands, Men at Work and NXS, that had saxophone in it.
00:14:19
Speaker
This is awesome. We can do a whole bunch of stuff that we wouldn't be able to do otherwise. with respect to our bass player, guitar player, backup singer, keyboardist, multi-instrumentalist, Tim Lemaster, I got assigned to the world's crappiest dorm, pardon my French.
00:14:36
Speaker
So did Tim. And he was about four doors down from me. And the day I moved in, i I had like my backpack, my, you know, ah fake Stratocaster and my little Marshall amp. That was everything I had. And so I'm all excited, you know, and lo and behold, four doors down from me is this guy with this whole keyboard and bass and everything set up. And he sang in the choral group. So he he understood harmonies and everything like just dumb luck. Like if he'd been on it in a different dorm, I might not have ever met him. Right.
00:15:04
Speaker
So within a few weeks, we've got a band going. So the high school band kind of transitioned me and Wes kind of being the core members to the college band. And then ah Tim knew a drummer and off we were. So, you know, it's just kind of dumb luck.
00:15:18
Speaker
ah Maybe we would have found each other, but there was 20,000 people there. You know, it's been needle in a haystack versus just kind of being literally West rooming with Kyle and me being four doors down from Tim.
00:15:29
Speaker
but Very cool. Yeah. And you said you're, yeah, i think you said your son ah plays with you now.

Performing Live with Family: Strengthening Bonds through Music

00:15:37
Speaker
Yeah. So this was one of the coolest things of the retirement part. My son, I have three sons. They're all amazing. They're all brilliant. all musicians. um Evan, the middle son, started on drums and our college drummer just wasn't available to to get involved with this at this time. So we needed a drummer. Well, I happen to have a drummer. He's my middle son and we're also best buds and and I play on his recordings and he plays on mine. So,
00:16:03
Speaker
The problem is he was living in Rome at the time. So I was flying him into Rome for the in-person rehearsals. He he couldn't join the loot sessions except when he was here and the other guys weren't here because Rome's a little bit far. That's pushing the envelope, right, Patrick? ah so But he's good. He could just listen to the songs on the plane. And, of course, there was mostly 80s covers we were doing, and he grew up listening to this stuff. So he's like, I know all these songs. Yeah.
00:16:29
Speaker
Crowded House, MinuteWork, NXS, U2. I know this stuff. So ah he could just kind of learn it on the plane and then come and drop in. But it was I've never gotten to perform live with him. um We've done, you know, recorded dozens of songs together. And his name is Evan Walker. Check him out. Evan Walker Music on Spotify, Apple. He's amazing. He just put out his latest record, Riptide. just got to 100,000 listens. Let's get it to a million people. Come on.
00:16:54
Speaker
ah and And he's great. We're going to do some co-branded Evan Walker and the Resisters stuff. And kind of, we're really just glomming onto his fan base at this point, but we can help him out a little bit. But it was great. And again, just another wonderful outcome of this whole thing was to get to play with my son.
00:17:16
Speaker
i think, Scott, one of the things you had told me early on, too, was Evan's kind of epiphany, I think Jackie, this goes back to the communication where he said in that first time I talked to y'all, he was like, dudes don't FaceTime. They don't call each other, but they'll loot fish.
00:17:30
Speaker
Like they will stay on and talk and stay on and communicate after they jam, which I thought was really just an entertaining little tidbit coming from a different generation. Absolutely, because we're not awkward when have a guitar in front of us. that that We're just comfortable then, right? But if I'm just FaceTiming the guys, I'm like, what do I do with my hands and you know all that stuff? so Yeah, we'll talk on the phone. It's like, cool, cool, bye. Okay, but loop fishing, yeah, we'll go as long as we need to.
00:17:56
Speaker
yeah So if I understand right, Lutefish is only um Canada, US s right now. yes

Technical Aspects of Lootfish and Overcoming Limitations

00:18:02
Speaker
Yeah. We we launched our our initial launch, as as Scott said, at NAMM last year 2025. And launched with the initial launch um and yeah we um blocks with the initial ah North America focus. We are looking at sort of expanding globally.
00:18:18
Speaker
um as As Scott alluded to, going from South Carolina to Rome is probably a little bit too much. One one of the interesting things that we learned throughout this process is We can control a lot about how long it takes for things to get from point A to point B. But when you when you put it all together, point A to point B, we actually only control what happens here and what happens here.
00:18:44
Speaker
And we can guide a little bit to route it in it in as efficiently way as possible. But in the end, we're sort of reliant on the internet itself, you know the Verizon's, the Comcast, the Spectrum, the AT&T's of the world. um and And so they handle that middle portion. And we're really taking advantage of those really good internet connections. So that's where about that 500 mile radius is is is what you can expect to have a decent experience. And I always say that number is a really useful estimate and totally made up.
00:19:18
Speaker
Because it depends what the wires are that connect here to there. And if you're in and And we push that boundary every week with our guy on the panhandle of Florida. He's he's about 532 miles. So yes.
00:19:30
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Scott, you don't know this, but we have ah a portal on the back end where I get to see all the sessions that are going on. And there's a little map it it brings up that shows me where everyone's located. And i i see I see yours pop up there and shows me your legacy levels. And um so, yeah, I pull it off. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's a long one because you're you're pushing it. Yeah, every year South and West and all that. Yeah.
00:19:53
Speaker
South Carolina and the way down to Tampa for Kyle. There you go. Yeah. So you're definitely, definitely in that full 500 mile radius yeah plus. So when you started, Scott, was your plan, like when you were talking about your retirement party and, and getting things, getting things going, was that all your idea that you wanted to gather the band together? And it was just a this was kind of a last hurrah kind of thing that has now turned into something that's going to continue.

Post-Retirement Passion for Music

00:20:24
Speaker
That's a great question. I think I was, I'm an optimist. ah So I was optimistic that we would catch the fever again and that we wouldn't suck. um But those were two things that needed to be proved out. So we didn't make any promises beyond September 23rd of 2025.
00:20:44
Speaker
Probably halfway through the first song, we're all going, oh, we're doing this again. You know, and there's just nothing quite like it. Right. And and it was happening in the venue, Smith's Old Bar in Atlanta was fantastic. The sound, the lights. I mean,
00:20:57
Speaker
This is not, you know, setting up a little PA on somebody's back lawn. This is like a rock show, you know, and it was a pretty full audience. And, you know, for me, In my professional career, you know, I'm a guy who lived and died by deadlines and, you know, getting myself absolutely backed up against the wall where I had no option but to jump. And this was a case where invites have been sent. My friends are coming. They're expecting a a rock show. Uh-oh, you know.
00:21:23
Speaker
So it made us kind of really focused because otherwise we'd probably just be screwing around, you know. So you kind of need a deadline ah and you need to kind of put yourself in a, oh, my God, this could be horrible situation. At least I do.
00:21:37
Speaker
Because every day I was practicing, my fingers were just, you know, getting shredded up from playing all the time for the first time in forever. But it was great, you know, and now i play every day. You know, it's it's like I'm back to the person. i yeah i had this 35-year thing in the middle where I had to, you know, make a living and raise a family and put kids through college and all that. Now I'm back to who I was. It just, I took this little detour for while. And now we all, are I'm literally, when I get done here, driving to Wes, our keyboard player's house, and he just got a Steinway piano and I want to go record that and check it out. So yeah, I'm going to go hang with him the next few days. Oh, that's great.
00:22:13
Speaker
that's That's exactly what my show is all about is the what comes after that 35 year break where you go and you do your work and you raise your family and then you get back to what it is that life is really about.

The Joy of a 'Secret Identity': Advice for Listeners

00:22:27
Speaker
And you're making it obvious. Life is about getting together with your friends, playing some music, enjoying yourself. And I was thinking about this a little bit when I, you know, was getting my head around, you know, this call and, and i I mentioned it during the gig. It's actually one of the clips I sent Patrick and Whitney, but You know, it's sort of like I had the luxury of of ah having a secret identity for my whole adult life, really a couple of secret identities.
00:22:56
Speaker
And one is that I'm a closet musician. You know, no one knows it because I'm working here. i don't I didn't even take the guitars out of the cases for like 20 years. Right. Another is I'm a writer. But, you know, I didn't talk about that during my day job because that just that has no business when I'm trying to run a business with 200 employees that care about getting their kids through school. Right.
00:23:17
Speaker
um But you know what I shared with my friends standing up there as the newly retired guy is you you probably want to be creating that secret identity now, you know, in your thirties, forties, long before you get there, because otherwise you hit this brick wall and you're like, Oh, who am I? and what's this all about?
00:23:34
Speaker
And my, if people struggle with, well, don't know what my secret identity is. Well, what was that first thing that made you go, whoa, as a kid? Probably happened between 10 and 20 that you went, hang on.
00:23:47
Speaker
And your mom's calling you to dinner and you just completely lost track of time because you got lost in something. Whatever that was is probably in the direction of being the thing. And it, you know, in my case, I got lucky with music, right? And before that it was drawing.
00:24:03
Speaker
And then later i got into writing. So I've got like, three things I could go do if it's a rainy, cold day, right? But whatever that thing was that made you stop in your tracks, look at that as the thing you're going to end up doing should you be so lucky as to get to the retirement era of life versus going, I'm bored. No one calls me anymore. I used to be important. i don't know what to do with myself. My spouse is going crazy with me spinning around. You know, that's no good.
00:24:30
Speaker
have Have a plan that touches back to your core person. And that's my kind of short philosophy on it. Yeah, that's ah awesome. That's that's exactly what I try to tell people is, you know, figure out what it was that you did when you ran out the door as a kid, because that's the thing that you want to do.
00:24:50
Speaker
Yeah. hundred percent Awesome. So what can, what can people take away from this today? Other than that philosophy that you just gave us, Scott, what do you want people to run home with?

Reigniting Musical Passions: It's Never Too Late

00:25:03
Speaker
I'll speak to the musicians in the world. Um, It's never over, it's not over. You might not have told anybody that you're secretly harboring a comeback, but harbor that comeback.
00:25:16
Speaker
It's one of the names reasons we named the band The Resisters. We're resisting that, oh, I can't do this, oh, AI is just gonna make all the music, there's no point in it, I don't play fast enough, I don't sing high enough, whatever. you know Honestly, forget all that, just play.
00:25:33
Speaker
And there is a way, and it's not that expensive. Thank you, Patrick and team. you know, it's an affordable piece of hardware, it's an affordable monthly license to get the band back together who probably do not live down the street like they used to because they are running their lives and families.
00:25:49
Speaker
So honestly, just get back into it. You will never have so much fun. And it can be a part of your new life, just like it was part of your old life. And I'm probably the key demographic for Lootfish. But there got to be tens of 1000s of dad bands and mom bands and mom and dad bands out there waiting to reform.
00:26:11
Speaker
And I'm just here to tell you, it can be done. Awesome. Scott, you talked about Evan's music. Do you guys have um a place where people can go to find you?
00:26:24
Speaker
Not yet, but soon. okay Very soon.

Future Band Plans and Network Building with Lootfish

00:26:27
Speaker
We did register the resistors.com and we'll be putting our music up there. I've written four songs recently, including my first ever Christmas song I wrote this past Christmas.
00:26:43
Speaker
ah And we're going to put stuff up there and try to put out but band doesn't know this yet, put out a record in 2026 and then have something that when we go play live, we're not just playing Jesse's Girl and Little Red Corvette, which are fun and awesome.
00:26:59
Speaker
But we can also play our own stuff because ultimately I think that's what we all want to do. So, yeah, soon. And we'll we'll we'll put something up. So when people link to it and maybe we'll throw a first song up there just to get people's appetites wet.
00:27:13
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Yeah, that's a good idea. And Patrick and Whitney, if people want to find out more about loot fish, where do they go?
00:27:21
Speaker
Lootfish.com. L-U-T-E-F-I-S-H. So think of a fish holding a loot. It's lootfish.com. You can find all the information about it. It's exactly what Scott described. The idea of getting people back together, letting them play, or finding new people if they don't have that network right now and but to join up with who might be 200 miles apart and you'd never meet since since you didn't get lucky enough to be in the dorm room down from them. Maybe maybe you can create that that new network of people. Awesome. you You mentioned finding people to connect with. You can do that too through Lootfish?
00:27:55
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yeah Yeah, we have sort of a networking platform where you create your profile, say what instruments you play, what genres you're interested in, and where you're located. And it'll show you people who are in your area and you know play similar instruments or play ah have similar genre interests.
00:28:12
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And you can send them a message and say, hey, you want to hop on tonight and see if we're a good match? Yeah, and that's one thing, Jackie, too. It's free to check out that. on just the ecosystem, kind of that online social platform, that's completely free to sign up and check out.
00:28:26
Speaker
so Awesome. you can Well, that's great. i'll Send messages from people in town. Yeah, that's great. Well, thank you, everybody. I'm i'm really glad you came in. Scott, your story is amazing. I i love the idea of getting together over the airwaves, first of all, and then being able to practice and continue doing that. I think that's great.

Episode Conclusion and Call to Action

00:28:46
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patrick It's a very modern way to do a very retro thing. what It is. Yeah, it's ah it's kind of cool. Thank you all Thank you. Thanks for having us. Thanks.
00:28:59
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