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🚨 2025 NFL Draft RB Deep Dive: Ashton Jeanty, Omarion Hampton & The Most Loaded Class in Years!
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The Bush League Huddle crew is back with a full scouting breakdown of the top running backs in the 2025 NFL Draft! We kick things off with consensus RB1 Ashton Jeanty, dissect his elite traits, and debate his best NFL fit. Then we hit Omarion Hampton, TreVeyon Henderson, Quinshon Judkins, and sleeper names like RJ Harvey and Cam Skattebo. Who’s the next fantasy stud? Who’s a trap?
We also dive into:
- Latest Aaron Rodgers rumors (Steelers? Vikings?)
- Browns’ wild QB future
- NFL rule changes & playoff OT tweaks
- Fantasy implications of RB landing spots
- RB comps for Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson and more!
Whether you're prepping for your dynasty draft or scouting for redraft value, this episode is LOADED.
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Transcript
Podcast Kickoff: NFL News & Draft Rumors
00:00:04
Nacc
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of the Bush League Huddle Fantasy Football Podcast. Your one-stop shop for every NFL news, all of your NFL news, and all of your fantasy football requirements.
00:00:19
Nacc
We are now three weeks away, ladies and gentlemen, from v draft. that This one should be a good one. Keep hearing rumors and swirls of of trades and and stuff that might happen and other players that might be traded during the draft. So this is um looking to be a really fun one, ladies and gentlemen.
Co-hosts Raj & Fab Discuss Top QBs & Running Backs
00:00:40
Nacc
I'm joined, as always, by my co-host, Raj and Fab. And if you missed our episode last week, we did a deep dive on all the top QVs that are slated to go in next NFL draft.
00:00:52
Nacc
and the next draft excuse me the next nfl draft This week we will be diving into the running backs. So we'll do another deep dive on about seven or eight running backs here who are slated to go in a loaded running back class this year.
00:01:06
Nacc
There should be a lot of starters in the NFL next season, but we'll definitely get into that a little later. As always, guys, please remember to like, follow, subscribe but but to all our social medias, TikTok, Instagram, ah YouTube. Also listen to us on anywhere you get your podcasts.
00:01:25
Nacc
We really much appreciate it. Now, guys, just diving into quickly, Aaron Rodgers' watch 2025
Aaron Rodgers' Free Agency Speculation & Browns' QB Situation
00:01:34
Nacc
continues. This is now week four I believe in from the free agency started a free agency and Rogers is still without a team.
00:01:42
Nacc
He did have a little throwing session with ah DK Metcalf at UCLA over the weekend and it seems like it went well. So would you be, so would you be surprised if he didn't land with the Steelers right now? like but Like what's going on right now? Anyone have a ah take on this?
00:01:58
Roger Emeka
date The date went well? It was a little coffee?
00:02:01
Fab
I mean, he threw he threw it to DK without any defenders, so I hope it went well.
00:02:02
Roger Emeka
was it it Was it a Tinder date?
00:02:07
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:02:07
Fab
I mean, this is this is like an Aaron Rodgers pro day in 2025.
00:02:10
Nacc
I was about to say, yeah, yeah.
00:02:13
Fab
I mean, yeah, just sign already. i don't know. like ah And again, I'm not putting pressure on Aaron Rodgers.
00:02:16
Roger Emeka
There...
00:02:20
Fab
I get the whole thing about, like, it's a swan song. It's the last team he's going to sign with. I get all that. Just sign, man. Jeez, it's enough now already. Come on. like You're already throwing passes to your future wide receiver. like Let's go.
00:02:34
Fab
Get it over with already. What are you waiting for?
00:02:36
Roger Emeka
He's waiting for Big Night At. Pat McAfee's show, Pat McAfee's live show at PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh.
00:02:39
Nacc
Honestly, that would be...
00:02:45
Roger Emeka
He's going to be there. He's going to announce this. It's very clear.
00:02:47
Fab
oh there it is. so That's what he's waiting for.
00:02:48
Roger Emeka
It's like, this is all a work.
00:02:48
Nacc
be... You know what...
00:02:50
Roger Emeka
Like, all a work.
00:02:50
Fab
This is this LeBron James' decision, 2025.
00:02:51
Nacc
um
00:02:52
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:02:53
Nacc
and And everyone's been saying that just because like now it's out there that he won't do it that way because, you know you know, everyone says he likes to do things his own way. So now if everyone knows, he it would be it would be so funny if that actually happened.
00:03:01
Roger Emeka
It will be
00:03:06
Nacc
ah Definitely boost ratings for McAfee, that's for sure.
00:03:10
Roger Emeka
And it's going to be that, like,
00:03:10
Fab
Yeah.
00:03:11
Nacc
But even, well, look, the owner today spoke and seems optimistic, says like it's probably only likely only a matter of time. But then I heard Big Ben on his podcast say that the reason why he's holding out is the same thing kind of with Fab alluded to, like, just sign already.
00:03:25
Nacc
You know, like, if you're going to go there, just just sign.
00:03:27
Fab
yeah
00:03:28
Nacc
ah Big Ben seems to think, like, he's still holding out hope for the Vikings, that the Vikings come calling because they have the more complete roster. But... ah The watch is still on. We will wait as well as ah all of you. So as soon as we have the news, we'll definitely break it to you.
00:03:46
Nacc
Another interesting ah owners owner speak. The Browns owner, Jim Haslam, spoke to the media Monday and said, we took a big swing and a miss for Watson. ah Seems like weird timing since he's still on the roster, but does that pretty much assure that he'll never be wearing a Browns uniform again?
00:04:08
Fab
I will never wearing a bronze uniform again. Probably could be wearing one while i's on the bench, but I feel like this pretty much assures that they're going to be looking for other quarterback options in 2025.
00:04:22
Fab
Kirk Cousins to the Browns is still a very hot rumor. I know that it's been doused with a little bit of water, but I feel like it's been picking up steam lately. um i don't know how that's going to work from a cap perspective, but at the same time, I feel like it is still very much on there, and I think it's still on the radar.
00:04:39
Fab
And then you have to figure that,
Debate on NFL Rule Changes & Technology in Football
00:04:41
Fab
you know, if Kirk Cousins doesn't go to the Browns, then they have to draft a quarterback. So then it's going to be Sanders at two, ah because or else who's going to be starting for them in the beginning of the year.
00:04:51
Fab
um
00:04:52
Nacc
Kenny Pickett.
00:04:52
Roger Emeka
i'm not
00:04:52
Fab
and like Yeah,
00:04:53
Roger Emeka
I'm not convinced.
00:04:53
Nacc
or Apparently they were a high on Kenny Pickett.
00:04:54
Roger Emeka
I'm not convinced.
00:04:57
Fab
which leaves me but which just... My God, who's high on Kenny Pickett? Sorry.
00:05:04
Roger Emeka
I'm not convinced the Browns are picking Shadr anymore. And we had tweeted it in our account today that like FanDuel, the odds for the Browns, ah highest odds or or most likely was Abdul Carter at that pick and then Shadr Sanders.
00:05:13
Fab
Mm-hmm.
00:05:19
Roger Emeka
And and then ah Haslam kind of made a quote about how it basically sounded like um a ringing endorsement for Stefanski and Andrew Barry, the GM and coach. on, you know, sounds like they're going to be patient with them and that it's not a make or break year where they're going to get fired with with regards, so regardless of what happens.
00:05:38
Roger Emeka
So to me, that leads me to believe that's more BPA and maybe they go with Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter.
00:05:42
Fab
Yeah, very true.
00:05:46
Roger Emeka
Or maybe they trade back into the first round um to get Choudreau at a later pick. But I don't think it's a lock that Choudreau is there. And I mean, for Watson, you were saying, well, what's going happen with the cap?
00:05:57
Roger Emeka
When the Broncos cut Russell Wilson, weren't they they were on the hook for most of the cap, correct?
00:06:04
Nacc
Because it was, ah yeah, the guarantee the guaranteed money.
00:06:05
Fab
yeah true
00:06:07
Nacc
But his whole contract's guaranteed, so I don't know what's left on it, to to be honest with you.
00:06:10
Roger Emeka
Right.
00:06:11
Nacc
But, um I mean, to excuse me on on that point, I don't know.
00:06:12
Roger Emeka
Right.
00:06:18
Nacc
Like, Abdul Carter would be um for sure a good pick, but after you just re-sign Garrett for all those years, I know it'd be nice to have a fresh one and have like two on the outside that it's pretty, would be pretty unstoppable defensive-wise, but I think in terms of Kirk Cousins, you're you're right, Fab. I think where there's smoke, there's fire, and um he might make his way there, but only after the draft. I don't think he's going to be... There's no way he's going to get into another panic situation where they draft you know a quarterback there, so I think we'll have to wait on that, but
00:06:52
Roger Emeka
That's good point.
00:06:53
Fab
yeah
00:06:53
Nacc
Yeah, I think that's what that's what stalling Kirk Cousins from being traded is is is that he doesn't want to be Michael Penix again this year.
00:06:56
Fab
yeah
00:07:02
Nacc
So so he waits. But um some just a quick touch upon some some rule changes for the upcoming season. They have the ah coaches meetings this um this week in Florida.
00:07:14
Nacc
The kickoff rule was changed where the ball will be placed on the 35-yard line for touchbacks where it was 30 last season. So they're expecting... a lot more returns. The OT rule was also modified. so it's going to be a 10 minute quarter and both teams will be given a chance to possess the ball similar to the playoff OT rules, but in the playoffs is 15 minutes.
00:07:34
Nacc
But someone said something um interesting today. What happens if someone possesses it for 10 minutes and they score? because Does the team get like one last shot to like chuck it down the field if the time expires?
00:07:48
Fab
I don't think so.
00:07:49
Nacc
Or does the time, because the rule says the teams will be given a chance to possess.
00:07:53
Fab
Yeah, but it's a 10-minute quarter. So i was I was thinking the same thing because for me, this is like you you allow both teams to have a possession, which I think is great because the the OT rule was always very very i was very weird. I never liked it to begin with. But then you reduce the quarter down from 15 to 10 minutes. So a team can have a nine-minute drive, score a field goal, and then that's it.
00:08:18
Fab
you know, like the game is over.
00:08:18
Nacc
Yeah, but it's, they're, they're hard to nine minute drives are not the norm, right?
00:08:22
Fab
Well, it's not impossible.
00:08:23
Nacc
Very.
00:08:23
Fab
It's just say like it's almost like a wash at that point.
00:08:24
Roger Emeka
There's always 10 minutes.
00:08:25
Fab
Like you're not really, you're not operating or not changing the rule with the intention to make the game more competitive from how the OT rules were before from like when you're reducing the amount of time within the quarter.
00:08:39
Fab
So even if the team has.
00:08:39
Nacc
No, always it was always 10 minutes.
00:08:40
Fab
Fine.
00:08:41
Nacc
It was always, it was always 10 minutes.
00:08:41
Roger Emeka
always ten minutes
00:08:42
Nacc
ot
00:08:43
Fab
fine I still don't like i think it should be a 15-minute quarter, a continuous, both teams play, and just how it would be. Basically, it should be a fifth quarter, and then at the end, if it's still like tied at the end, then it's a tie.
00:08:56
Fab
Yeah.
00:08:56
Nacc
Yeah, i think I think they're just trying to trying to find a way where they don't go a whole other quarter and play a whole like other quarter of football and try to find a happy medium in terms of like, okay, both of you will get the ball even if the person scores a touchdown.
00:09:11
Nacc
So,
Running Backs Spotlight: Ashton Gentty's NFL Potential
00:09:12
Roger Emeka
NFLPA, man.
00:09:13
Fab
yeah
00:09:13
Roger Emeka
think the NFLPA is stepping in here that don they want to reduce injuries, which I think is very fair.
00:09:13
Nacc
yeah.
00:09:15
Nacc
Yeah, for sure.
00:09:18
Nacc
Yeah, especially with all the talk of the 18-game schedule now coming to table too.
00:09:18
Fab
That's fair.
00:09:21
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:09:23
Nacc
Yeah. um With this new rule change, we finally came into the 21st century, I guess. I guess 20 years after tennis did it. But method of measuring first downs will be, will switch to camera-based technology in 2025. So the chain gang will remain in secondary capacity. So there'll be, I guess, the, if if something goes wrong, they'll be there.
00:09:45
Roger Emeka
That's good.
00:09:45
Nacc
ah for that and then there's expanded replay assist for penalties so they're the penalties that will include defenseless player face mask horse collar tripping and roughing slash ah running into the kicker ah must have clear and obvious video evidence to overturn the call and but they will not be able to call penalties via replay so only be able to correct a call that was that was made incorrectly um
00:09:50
Fab
Yeah. Okay.
00:10:06
Fab
okay
00:10:11
Nacc
And to to the yeah to the rules that didn't pass, the eliminated to eliminate automatic first downs for defensive penalties was not passed. That was comically brought up by the Lions, who have been the most penalized player team in holding and defensive pass interference in the last three years, which this rule didn't make sense, and it definitely didn't pass.
00:10:24
Roger Emeka
ridiculous
00:10:31
Nacc
And then the tush push was and and playoff seating are tabled until May. So the tush push we all know is the Eagles' famous... QB sneak play, um and then the playoff seeding where I think it was ah the the Lions again ah lines again brought it up.
00:10:47
Roger Emeka
standings yeah i
00:10:48
Fab
Yeah, it was Lions against, yep.
00:10:48
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:10:50
Nacc
They wanted to bring up ah your if you're the wildcard team and you have a better record, you should host the home game, which is ludicrous.
00:10:55
Fab
Yeah, I disagree with 100%.
00:10:56
Nacc
that makes it makes divisions
00:10:57
Fab
Yep.
00:10:58
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:10:58
Nacc
It makes the divisions nothing, and but why why ah why have divisions at that point? at that point
00:11:06
Nacc
So that was it, guys, for our news and nugs for the week. Now we're going
Amarian Hampton's Draft Prospects & Team Fits
00:11:12
Nacc
do a deep dive on our running backs. And our first running back needs no introduction. He absolutely tore up the college football season last year.
00:11:22
Nacc
And some also think he was robbed of the Heisman Trophy. um I think that's a very popular opinion. We have Mr. Ashton Gentty. I'm going to feel like fab today with these running back names.
00:11:36
Nacc
So bear with me, everyone.
00:11:36
Fab
I know so far you guys doing worse than I am I think we've got to change this
00:11:39
Roger Emeka
That was an easy one, man.
00:11:41
Nacc
I know it was an easy one. and i
00:11:43
Fab
we've we've only been talking about for the last four months Ashton
00:11:45
Nacc
Yeah, Ashton Gentty.
00:11:47
Roger Emeka
Ashton Kutcher.
00:11:48
Nacc
Ashton, Ashton Gentie, Boise State. So this obviously a guy who's slated to be first running back off the board. I don't think there's any any debate about that.
00:11:57
Fab
yeah
00:11:59
Nacc
We have some comps similar to Alvin Kamara or a supercharged that Maurice Jones drew. So I think that's a pretty fair comparison. I don't know if you guys saw him without his shirt on at his pro day, but he looks shredded.
00:12:12
Nacc
It reminds me of the AJ Brown and DK Metcalf picture ah way back when, when there were just two guys jacked in a picture.
00:12:15
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:12:20
Nacc
It was insane. But going into 2024 stats, he had 2,600 rushing yards, TDs. 7 yards per carry is just video game numbers. Also had 23 catches for 138 yards and another touchdown. So 30 total TDs last year.
00:12:38
Nacc
Just insane. um Raj, I know you've talked highly about him a lot So I just want to get your take right now on um on Gentile.
00:12:47
Roger Emeka
Yeah, it's it's the contact balance with him, really. And even just to add further add to the stats, 1,800 yards after contact, 143 missed contacts for us that led FBS, 5.2 yards after contact per carry, and that also led FBS. So I think for him, is it's the contact balance. It's bouncing off ah defenders.
00:13:10
Roger Emeka
It's the lateral movement to find a hole to keep the speed and to burst into it. And like I just saw so many runs of his where he's just knocking down four to five defenders, whether it's with elusiveness, whether it's with straight power.
00:13:21
Nacc
Thank you.
00:13:26
Roger Emeka
He didn't run at um the 40. He didn't do the 40 at his pro day. So i think some people may be concerned about his long speed. If you watch his film, if you watch his highlights, I have zero concerns whatsoever.
00:13:39
Roger Emeka
um So I think like total package, the supercharge Maurice Jones drew for me, like makes a lot of sense in terms of, if you look at the height of Maurice Jones drew, he had an all pro season.
00:13:41
Fab
Yep. Yep.
00:13:49
Roger Emeka
think that all pro season, he 30, 340 carries, 1600 yards, ATDs. He had three straight years of 1300 yards. So at his, at his peak, MJD was one of the top backs in the league.
00:13:59
Roger Emeka
So he was an absolute beast that people forget about it.
00:13:59
Nacc
It was a beast.
00:14:00
Fab
yeah
00:14:02
Roger Emeka
So like small contact, like compact five, eight, you know, 200, 200 pounds. think, um, i think If you were you to draw any amount of weaknesses is the volume. 750 carries in his three years at Boise. So that's a lot of a lot of carries.
00:14:18
Roger Emeka
you know Do you have concerns about that in terms of you know how he will hold up in the NFL? He hasn't had injuries, but it's just a lot of carries, right? It's like literally... two, three years worth of NFL carries ah already coming in.
00:14:29
Roger Emeka
The competition, Mountain West isn't great. ah Mind you, he he did very well against Oregon. I mean, he had 192 yards. And then, you know, how good is he as a pass catcher? So um to me, though, this guy is like an elite player.
00:14:43
Roger Emeka
i there's i don't see any holes in him. And like this guy has a chance to be an all, like at least a one or two time all. don't think he's a Hall of Famer, but highly, highly effective starter.
00:14:56
Nacc
Yeah, I definitely ah tend to agree. And as far as ah best fits Fab, where do you where do you see him going that fits perfectly?
00:15:05
Fab
well you have to look at the teams that are actually running back needy, and that's kind of the kind of the issue. I mean, running backs have made a bit of a resurgence as far as being of a premier position in the last few years. We've seen it what it can do with Christian McCaffrey and Saquon Barkley and even Derrick Henry, right? So the teams that really need a running back are the ones that should be focusing on Gentry, and I think it's i mean it's best kept secret or not really. There should be the oakland sorry the Las Vegas Raiders.
00:15:31
Fab
um They could use a wide receiver, but at that spot of picking six, you have to they're going to be deciding on whether to take, you know, Ted McMillan or to take Gentry. And I think the ceiling for Gentry is just way, way, way too high. And the floor is is is also high too.
00:15:49
Roger Emeka
Mm-hmm.
00:15:50
Fab
Raj hit on all the points. I need to go over them right now. I know and know the whole breakaway speed is a thing, right? But do you think had the most amount of 15-plus yard rushes in college football last year? So thats that to me is a non-issue whatsoever.
00:16:06
Fab
So i if I'm the Raiders, I would be looking at Gentian. I'd be running away with it, quite frankly. I don't see how at that spot you take another position or another player at that value because the top five, right? So obviously the top three Titans, the Browns, the Giants are not going running back. Neither are the Patriots, even though they do have a bit of a need there, but I don't think that they have other more pressing needs than running back at that point.
00:16:30
Fab
The Jaguars, and then you have the Raiders at six. He should be, He should be booking a ticket ticket it to Las Vegas and just stick it around there for a while.
00:16:40
Nacc
Does he, if for whatever reason the Raiders decide to go wide receiver or another position, does he get past the Bears knowing that it's ah it's Ben Johnson there, right?
00:16:51
Fab
He shouldn't.
00:16:54
Fab
Yeah.
00:16:54
Nacc
Knowing that Ben Johnson had a Jameer Gibbs player that he loved in Detroit, does he get past Chicago?
00:16:54
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:16:57
Fab
Yeah.
00:17:00
Fab
Again, he shouldn't. He should not. He shouldn't even be there at 10. But if he is, then I think Ben Johnson is going to pull the trigger and take him at 10. Because you have to figure this guy is probably coming in as one of the, if not the most polished product available to draft, right?
00:17:17
Fab
Like in the same vein as Abdul Carter, ah Travis Hunter, like but take take position away. Like, you know, which ones are graded the highest? He's graded absolutely one of the highest, if not the highest player, depending on who you speak to.
00:17:30
Fab
So you get him at 10. It's like, okay, you know what? The value just supersedes anything that I can
Fantasy Football: Ashton Gentty's RB1 or RB2 Potential?
00:17:35
Fab
be getting at that spot. It just makes no sense for me to pick any other player.
00:17:39
Nacc
And just quickly, I want to take your both your takes real quick. Where do you see him and in terms of fantasy next year? Is he a locked and loaded RB1 or 12? Or you have to kind of wait and see what a situation roger
00:17:56
Roger Emeka
So ah I'll answer it in this ah sense where if you look back at the last, call it 10 years of running backs taken in the first round, like for me, I think he's a better prospect than Najee Harris, Travis Etienne, the disastrous Clyde out Edwards Hilaire.
00:18:14
Nacc
Oh.
00:18:15
Fab
Who is it?
00:18:16
Roger Emeka
Josh Jacobs, it gets a little iffy. I think it's... you know But if you look at Josh Jacobs' ah first season in the league, he was 240 carries, 1,100 yards, 7 TDs.
00:18:28
Roger Emeka
That's like RB2 productivity, right? So that's where I see him, like high RB2 productivity. And i don't see him a situation where...
00:18:40
Roger Emeka
you know you Depending on where he goes, like if it's the Bears, I could see RB1 productivity for sure. and the The only reason i maybe I hesitate with the Raiders is that I could see a scenario where they say, hey, maybe well let's let's invest in the offensive line first.
00:18:53
Roger Emeka
ah But knowing seeing Pete Carroll there and like having to like put in ah kind of a defensive-minded run the football identity, I think the Raiders makes a lot of sense. But yeah, like I think the the floor is mid-RB2 for sure.
00:19:06
Roger Emeka
If you factor in like what Najee Harris and others did previously, and and I think he's a better prospect.
00:19:10
Nacc
Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:10
Fab
I think that's a fair floor, but I would i would not be surprised if he hits a top 10 RB next year. I really wouldn't. and you could This reminds me of when Zeke was taken by the Cowboys, and he was taken fourth overall, I think.
00:19:24
Nacc
yeah
00:19:24
Fab
and First three years of his NFL career, he just ripped it. And then the year after that, Leonard Fournette, who had a fantastic year with the Jaguars in his rookie season. Not as good as Zeke, obviously. So this gives me gives you shades of that a little bit about how like a guy coming...
00:19:39
Fab
coming into a very good off well excuse me Coming into a very good situation where he can produce right away and will be the focal point of the offense. I don't see how this does not translate to fantasy success.
00:19:50
Nacc
So you're okay with drafting him as your first RB?
00:19:53
Fab
ah Yes. I am okay drafting my first RB. Yes.
00:19:58
Nacc
Interesting.
00:19:59
Fab
Yeah.
00:19:59
Nacc
Okay.
00:20:00
Fab
I mean, you tell me sorry this is assuming he goes to the Raiders and or the, no, or the bears, not add the bears, the Raiders or the bears. If he goes to a different situation where he might be splitting carries. Yeah. out I'm going to change my tune, obviously, but like we're talking about from the bears and Raiders perspective.
00:20:14
Fab
Yeah.
00:20:15
Nacc
I think either way, he doesn't get the full workload. Um, Regardless of what situation he goes, I don't think he's going to be a three down back right off the bat.
00:20:23
Fab
Yeah. So we're going pass pro to be there for the third down. And that's a bit of a knock
Where Will Amarian Hampton Be Drafted?
00:20:27
Fab
against him just because he was short or like he's five, eight.
00:20:27
Nacc
That's a... Yeah, yeah.
00:20:29
Fab
Right. So.
00:20:30
Nacc
Coaches like the um the blocking locking back on third down.
00:20:32
Fab
Yeah. Yeah. That's the only thing against them. But then again, guy's a beast. Like give the rock.
00:20:41
Nacc
Yeah, definitely look. Like I said, definitely um I think it's unanimous across the board, across the NFL world that he's going to be the first one off the board. Then it starts to get a little dicey on which ones will go next, especially the next two. So the first one we have Amarian Hampton from North Carolina.
00:21:01
Nacc
ah Comparison to Joe Mixon, perhaps.
00:21:05
Fab
Mm-hmm.
00:21:06
Nacc
He also had a pretty good year ah last year. 281 carries, almost 1,700 yards, 15 TDs, and almost six yards per carry. ah Very, very ah great numbers.
00:21:18
Nacc
He also had 4.35 yards after contact, which was third in the nation, which is... um Pretty jarring numbers. This guy is a big boy, 6'2", 221 pounds. So um definitely a NFL running back size-wise.
00:21:33
Nacc
ah Fab, what stood out with you for Hampton?
00:21:37
Fab
The entire combination that he has with size explosiveness and lower body strength. um Also the fact that like, I think he's more of a true three down back, maybe than gente, just because he has really more natural hands as a pass catcher and his pass protection is very good.
00:21:54
Fab
So when we've mentioned it a few times right now, like whenever, whenever running backs are drafted in the NFL, like how do they get the most amount of playing time is if they're also solid and pass protection. And,
00:22:06
Fab
Omarion Hampton has that. So I think that's going to be the biggest benefactor for him. Super elusive. ah Great yards after contact too. like Not necessarily up Gentry's level, but very much on par.
00:22:19
Fab
i mean It's hard not to like him from a from a perspective from ah from a prospective point. I even got some comps to Rashard Mendenhall, your boy over there. So like I think those are those are very applicable characteristics. Those are very applicable characteristics.
00:22:34
Fab
comps where you can see Omari Hampton also having pretty pretty quick success in the NFL. right i mean He's nice height, nice weight. It's everything you want in ah in ah in a solid, solid running back and a three-down back. um is the The only knock I saw against him is that there's a ah his his vision could lead to some boomer bus production depending on the offensive line. So obviously, I think he's going to have to go into a very good situation.
00:23:00
Fab
So if he goes to, for example, the Bears, we spoke about before with the revamped offensive line, He could have some excellent production there. But if he goes to a team that's still working on beefing up their offensive line, it might hamper is ah his fantasy production for sure. And also maybe even his his ah his production as an NFL player, and especially in his rookie year.
00:23:19
Fab
But this is another guy, too, where, you know, we spoke about it already, right? The RB class is very, very, very deep this year. I mean, you have to wonder where Mario Hampton would be drafted if Gentry was in the in the in this draft class this year, right? Because he has all the qualities that you're looking for in a three-down back um from every single level.
00:23:40
Fab
So I think he's going to be an excellent, excellent product going forward.
00:23:45
Nacc
For sure. So, and and I guess, like, I don't, I know that running backs now are are kind of bushed aside. And I think, you know, this year with the resurgence of Saquon Barkley going to a good team, good offense, good offensive line, um got paid like the best running back in the league as well. And there was a resurgence. You saw Henry past the age of 30, who was still putting up daunting numbers, but it's hard to expect two running backs to go in the top 10, I believe in a, in a draft.
00:24:15
Nacc
Raj, where do you see him? do you see his best fit? And is it possible that two can be picked in the top 10?
Travion Henderson's Draft Potential & Role
00:24:22
Roger Emeka
Yeah, so I think he's going to be a first rounder for sure. i think what's great about him is, and sometimes we we take for granted, you know, some running backs are more suited for gap scheme runs where like offense line is man on man, hat on hat. And then some running backs are more suited for for zone where they stretch it outside and cut back in. I think both Gentian and Hampton are really good for both.
00:24:43
Roger Emeka
So that's where I could see ah Denver. Denver, they ran a lot of gap and zone.
00:24:47
Fab
They did. Yep.
00:24:50
Roger Emeka
It was fairly equal for both of them. And the GM, think as George Patton, he even said they're going to draft a running back in this class. and don't think it's no secret about it. They lost Javante Williams. He would pair quite nicely with Audrey Kestame actually.
00:25:03
Roger Emeka
And then it's from a running back from another team that's running back needy, I think you have to think the Cowboys. I just don't know if the for where they're picking at 12 is realistic. But to me, when I see Hampton, I see a guy who's bell cow size. i think Fab hit it right on the nail.
00:25:20
Roger Emeka
Bell cow size, great combination of size and speed. Good hands as well. That's why I really like the Joe Mixon comp. Like from a body perspective, from the way he plays, um you know, enough elusiveness up the middle, um you know, but still a lot of power.
00:25:36
Roger Emeka
He looks a lot like Mixon to me.
00:25:36
Fab
Yeah.
00:25:37
Roger Emeka
So I think the Cowboys could definitely benefit. I think... The Bengals too, because I feel like Chase Brown, you know, with his slender build might not be, you know, I don't know if you want him to have 90% of the snaps.
00:25:51
Nacc
Right.
00:25:52
Roger Emeka
So that could be an interesting one. And then um another one would be the Jaguars. Five, they're at five, I believe the Jags. So I think that's a little bit high.
00:25:59
Fab
yeah
00:26:01
Roger Emeka
Would they trade back into the first? I don't know you'd do that for running back, but i'm I'm firmly of the camp that Hampton is going to go in the first round.
00:26:10
Nacc
Yeah, I definitely agree with the first round, Gray, because there are some running back needy teams that are for sure going to chomp at the bit if this guy drops to them. I was thinking even as a wild card, ah the the Jaguars with Gentry.
00:26:24
Nacc
That's why I was thinking of something. Imagine they just kind of throw like a wild card in the draft and they just take him. They need a player. They try to trade at Sien maybe, or Sien just becomes like the the the third down guy. Who knows?
00:26:35
Nacc
Yeah. I definitely agree with the Cowboys. It could be a little rich, but I did see some mocks that had him, um, had them taking him at 12. twelve But then after that, you had you know Miami, the Colts, Atlanta, the Cardinals.
00:26:50
Fab
Yeah.
00:26:50
Nacc
Like you said, the Bengals maybe at 17.
00:26:52
Nacc
Then you have the Broncos. like I agree with you. I don't think he makes it past the Broncos if he falls there.
00:26:57
Fab
yeah
00:26:58
Nacc
And then another interesting one to see would be the Steelers following at 21. Would they really go running back again in the first round? I'm not too sure. But if someone of his caliber might maybe becomes available, they may they may think about it.
00:27:13
Roger Emeka
i don't know yeah I don't know if the Cardinals are enamored with Trey Benson.
00:27:13
Nacc
Raj?
00:27:18
Roger Emeka
And they run ah they run the they're going to be running the football a lot. They ran the football a ton last year, and they run a ton of gap scheme. I think they're 68% gap scheme. ah That would be a great fit if they feel that, well, A, James Conner, he's getting up there in age, and B, they're not super enamored with Trey Benson.
00:27:32
Fab
Yeah.
00:27:34
Roger Emeka
I think the Cardinals are picking 17th, if I'm not mistaken. um so that could be an interesting 16th.
00:27:39
Nacc
16th, yeah.
00:27:40
Roger Emeka
Yeah, thanks. ah So that could be an interesting one as well.
00:27:43
Nacc
Yeah, I just i don't see the... like I feel like they have more needs in having Benson there. um He was only there. It was only his first year, right? So sometimes running back, you know, it could take some time. But I think they have more needs than that. But you i I could see it. i I just, like you said, I liked your first fit with the Broncos.
00:28:00
Nacc
They did lose Javante Williams.
00:28:00
Roger Emeka
Mm-hmm.
00:28:02
Nacc
So I think um pretty pretty good fit there. And then, I mean, if you keep going down the board... I don't know where he would be taken after. Are teams really looking for running backs after the Steelers? Is the Chargers maybe?
00:28:15
Fab
I was going to say the Chargers, yeah I mean, they have Najee signed to a one-year contract, and after that they have who?
00:28:15
Nacc
the charge of what chargers Will the Chargers go first round running back?
00:28:24
Nacc
There's not much behind there.
00:28:26
Fab
Well, that's it, right? So if if they're not going to be taking him at this 22nd overall, I mean, I think the Chargers could be in for running back at some point in the draft this year um if it doesn't happen at 22, but I would not be surprised if they take one.
00:28:40
Roger Emeka
I've heard people say commanders. There's been a lot of talk about commanders recently.
00:28:43
Fab
I thought about the commanders too, honestly, because they have Eckler who's up in the age.
00:28:44
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:28:46
Nacc
Bryan Robinson and Eckler. Bryan Robinson is pretty serviceable in that offense, though.
00:28:49
Fab
Brian Robinson.
00:28:52
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:28:53
Fab
Yeah, but like that, that team is already borderline complete as far as like putting together an offensive production is concerned. Like what are you missing right now? I'm missing a top end running back, right?
00:29:04
Nacc
Honestly, it's going to be interesting because, there's there's like I said, theres these top-end running backs... like Sometimes like you don't think someone's going to fault you. And then at one point, like you have no choice. But, to okay, like we need to get this guy.
00:29:14
Nacc
We have to pull the trigger. like It's just too good to be true that he failed to me. So at the commanders, man.
00:29:18
Fab
Yeah.
00:29:19
Nacc
They're drafting 29th. Imagine he gets to 29th, and there' he's sitting there, and they're like, you know what? But even wildcard on the bills, they're not paying James Cook, right?
00:29:28
Roger Emeka
I mean...
00:29:29
Fab
Yeah.
00:29:29
Nacc
If he gets to 30 and they can get a but running back under contract on a rookie deal for potentially five years, I think that's maybe something they they'd would be willing to to be interested in.
00:29:37
Fab
Yeah,
00:29:42
Fab
but i I don't see him passing, falling back. behind the Broncos.
00:29:46
Nacc
No, don't either, but stranger things have definitely happened.
00:29:46
Fab
I really don't. Yeah, I think they're...
00:29:51
Fab
Yeah, for sure.
00:29:52
Nacc
definitely happened Okay, moving right along to our number three on the list, Mr. Trevion Henderson out of Ohio State.
00:30:04
Nacc
ah PFF big board, he's ranked 70th overall in the upcoming draft. ah He has compares shows comparisons to Jamal Charles and to a certain extent Aaron Jones.
00:30:16
Nacc
So explosive with great top speed and acceleration. Uh, 2024 stats, 1100 yards, 12 TDs, and also had 400 receiving with four touchdowns.
00:30:29
Nacc
Um, fab. Tell me about Henderson. What's the like about Henderson?
00:30:35
Fab
He's super elusive, like we've been saying already, super agile, um great long speed.
00:30:41
Fab
think we've been seeing comps so far for Jamal Charles from an acceleration standpoint. Shades of Aaron Jones as well, I've noticed too, which are very, very interesting. The... Issue that I have, though, with him, obviously from lack of size, it's and I'm going to be saying this about both Ohio State running backs, actually, is the fact that they were both productive in the same offense.
00:31:04
Fab
I don't know how that's going to translate to the NFL. What i mean by that is that they both have very different physical traits, which can translate very well to the NFL, but within a part of a running back room.
00:31:18
Fab
So I think Trayvon Henderson is going to be a He's going to be a productive member to an RB room. I don't see him being able to do that three down back roll.
00:31:30
Fab
He might be more of a third down roll back type thing just a little bit more slender, he's a little bit lighter than the other running backs that might be out there. But the fact that variable speed component in the NFL has a high effort player, both running back and pass blocking situation, so he's going to be there on the more important downs.
00:31:50
Fab
But as far as a three down back is concerned, I don't think he has it in my opinion. I think this is i think now we start to get into the weeds of you know like a second round grade or a third round grade for some of these guys.
00:32:01
Fab
And it's I think Trayvon Henderson is going to be the first one for me in that sense.
00:32:05
Nacc
Yeah, and I think people are still getting, like, again, these second and third round running backs are going to be um ah really good, you know? So, it's it's, you're not, like, you're getting such good could value at the drafting in the second or third round, but, Raj, I want to hear what you think.
00:32:13
Fab
Yeah.
00:32:14
Roger Emeka
Exactly.
00:32:24
Roger Emeka
I think Fab, agree with Fab. This is where the Cowboys can come back into play again. Like if they're, they don't, well, if they don't want to necessarily go on the first round, they have the 44th pick, right?
00:32:35
Roger Emeka
And we're saying Travion Henderson is in the second round.
00:32:36
Fab
Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
00:32:37
Roger Emeka
So he's, think he's definitely going a second rounder. um But he's a committee back. like i see As of as i see now, his size, his makeup, to me, that's a committee back.
00:32:43
Fab
Mm-hmm.
00:32:49
Roger Emeka
If we see comparisons to like Aaron Jones, yes, Aaron Jones can be a lead back. But when he is a lead back, what happens? He gets injured.
00:32:58
Fab
yes
00:32:58
Roger Emeka
Aaron Jones has been best when he's tethered to a more powerful back, which you know can spell
Comparing Quinshawn Judkins & Caleb Johnson to NFL Stars
00:33:04
Roger Emeka
him.
00:33:04
Fab
so
00:33:04
Roger Emeka
But I think he has the traits to be a very solid player, but I see him more um as as ah as a committee guy. And I think, Fab, your point on duos, really good running back duos in college is very fair, right?
00:33:19
Nacc
Thank you.
00:33:19
Roger Emeka
Like, I'm looking back at some of them, some of the best duos, like Joe Mixon and Samajay Pirine. There's always one guy who is really good in college.
00:33:27
Fab
And, and,
00:33:28
Roger Emeka
They're both really good in college, but only one of them kind of get becomes really good in the pros, and the other guy becomes more of a specialist. Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson, that's, you know, those guys were both drafted actually really high.
00:33:38
Fab
yeah
00:33:38
Roger Emeka
Richardson, though, was the bust. um and And even Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown, right? Like they both kind of teetered away, but Ronnie Brown was, I think, considered the better player at one point. They both kind of juggled on that front, but um I would agree with you on that front. I think Henderson is more, you know, best as a committee.
00:33:56
Fab
and and The Samadji P. Ryan comp, Samadji P. Ryan, fantastic player. He does exactly what he's expected to do of him within those situations required of him. From a fantasy perspective, he's he's not that relevant at all.
00:34:10
Fab
But from a real NFL perspective, Samadji P. Ryan is an excellent, excellent running back to have in the room because you need that guy on third downs. You need the guy to be able to run out on the flat and catch those balls and get get your quarterbacks out of those messes and and push the sticks whenever you need to.
00:34:24
Fab
So, From that perspective, I think like it's a very good very good body of work to look at as to how these guys can translate the NFL when you have that running back committee in college.
00:34:38
Nacc
Yeah, I tend to agree. And I think that like he's going to go to a team that needs a dual threat running back, right? He's going to be a one-two punch.
00:34:49
Nacc
And I think he could thrive in a like Kyle Shanahan type system, 49ers, Dolphins, something like that. or like ah Or even in a spread offense, like something like the Bills and the Chiefs.
00:34:55
Roger Emeka
Yes. Yes.
00:34:56
Fab
Okay.
00:34:58
Roger Emeka
yes
00:34:59
Nacc
like I think he would strive in those types of offenses because um he is a dual guy and he could work together with with someone else. and Again, like you said, Raj, these are the type of players that need to stay healthy, right? And this is the way to do that is limiting carries and splitting it with counterparts.
00:35:17
Roger Emeka
Well, that's a great call, Nak, with the Niners. and Because his type of profile is is very cutback heavy. So zone scheme would make a ton of sense. Niners, 56% zone scheme runs.
00:35:31
Roger Emeka
And look, I personally really like Garendo. um But there's been a lot of talk this offseason that the the Niners do need to draft someone because they traded Jordan Mason to the Vikings.
00:35:42
Roger Emeka
I think this would be really an interesting ah get for the Niners. second third round and then I think the Chargers would be really interesting too the Chargers if you pay that's the type of running back like Henderson's type running back you pair with a Najee Harris where it's two different different styles similar to what he had at Ohio State with Quinshon
00:35:55
Fab
Yeah. hundred percent.
00:35:57
Nacc
Yeah.
00:35:58
Fab
Yep. Mm-hmm.
00:36:01
Nacc
Yeah, look, and Najee's kind of, he knows how to be in a two running back system, right? He was just in one in Pittsburgh, so um look, I know he said that he's he's got more, know, he could have been utilized better in pass catching and this and that, but um look, I think a one-two punch of ah ah both of them would be pretty pretty lethal for, I was going to say San Diego, but LA.
00:36:26
Nacc
I was pulling a, pulling a Raj there.
00:36:27
Fab
San Diego.
00:36:30
Nacc
Um,
00:36:31
Fab
A whale. Never mind.
00:36:33
Roger Emeka
Hartford.
00:36:34
Nacc
I mean, as far as fantasy value for, for him, do you see, is he really, is he more of that wide, you know, i have the, excuse me, RB three territory flex play flyer flyer guy.
00:36:46
Roger Emeka
Flyer. This is a flyer.
00:36:49
Fab
Yeah. Yeah, especially in his rookie season. if If he gets into a really good situation, I can see be relevant, but right off the top of my head, I don't see him even being drafted, to be honest.
00:37:01
Nacc
Interesting, not even being drafted.
00:37:03
Fab
No, because you have to figure that he has to go to a situation where he will be able to have some fantasy relevance, and then you're going to be drafting him just to have him on your bench for the first few games until he actually pops up, because he's not going to be the starter, no matter where he goes.
00:37:17
Roger Emeka
Well, also, guys, there's a lot of good running backs in the league. Like, I'm going through Tankathon, and it's like, you know, we didn't talk about the Giants.
00:37:20
Fab
Yeah, yeah.
00:37:20
Nacc
Yeah.
00:37:24
Roger Emeka
Like, I don't know. Tyron Tracy was good, but, man, like, a lot of ball security issues. But if you go through the list, like, there's some really, it's only five or six teams that really, really need a running back.
00:37:33
Fab
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:35
Nacc
ya Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's definitely, that's what's funny about this is because it's such a stacked class, but there's also so many solidified running backs in the league that it's like, they may not get playing time wherever they go, right?
00:37:37
Fab
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:37:41
Fab
but
00:37:48
Nacc
Or or limited playing time. I feel like there was a lot of running backs drafted last year, if I'm not mistaken, that came into offenses that, like i said, now we've Rosters are getting full and they may not have a you know potential place.
00:38:01
Nacc
So maybe we see some of these guys slide even in a loaded class or knowing that it's a loaded class that they'll load up on other positions before you know the top the top dogs go oh and like people will wait maybe third, fourth round before they start grabbing grabbing one of these guys.
00:38:10
Roger Emeka
Exactly. and
00:38:11
Fab
yeah
00:38:17
Roger Emeka
well that's why like JK Domlin's hasn't signed yet.
00:38:19
Nacc
Yeah.
00:38:20
Fab
True.
00:38:20
Nacc
Well, most of those guys now won't drive it won't umt sign until after the draft for sure.
00:38:23
Roger Emeka
No, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
00:38:24
Fab
Yeah.
00:38:25
Nacc
Yeah. We're moving on to his Ohio State teammate, Mr. Quinshawn Judkins. hope I said that right.
00:38:35
Roger Emeka
Nailed it.
00:38:35
Nacc
and I think there we go.
00:38:36
Fab
right.
00:38:36
Nacc
Pretty close.
00:38:37
Roger Emeka
Nailed it.
00:38:37
Nacc
Yeah, fantastic.
00:38:38
Roger Emeka
Last week you said Jutkins.
00:38:39
Nacc
um
00:38:39
Roger Emeka
Jutkins. Nope.
00:38:40
Nacc
Yeah, Judkins. Yeah, I know. This is the one I wanted to make sure I nailed because I screwed up last week.
00:38:41
Fab
Jutkins...
00:38:45
Fab
Jutkins, mec...
00:38:46
Nacc
Judkins. Yeah, it's my Quebecois coming out over here.
00:38:47
Roger Emeka
educat
00:38:50
Nacc
um For those of you who don't know Quebec is a city in Canada, Montreal, Canada.
00:38:56
Fab
Quebec is a city in Montreal, Canada. NAC doesn't even know either.
00:39:01
Nacc
We're going to edit this out for...
00:39:03
Roger Emeka
no
00:39:05
Fab
back Quebec is a city in the country of North America.
00:39:05
Roger Emeka
know I can't edit with Zencaster, so you're you're stuck, bud.
00:39:11
Nacc
That's the only way people, U.S. followers, would have known where it was.
00:39:14
Fab
ah you Other u s Americans?
00:39:16
Fab
U.S. Americans? ah you
00:39:16
Nacc
Other U.S.
00:39:18
Nacc
Americans who don't have maps and... and
00:39:23
Nacc
Anyways, moving on. Quinchon Judkins showing comparisons to Nick Chubb or a worst-receiving Todd Gurley. Fun fact about Todd Gurley. don't think he's 30 years old yet.
00:39:34
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:39:36
Nacc
Judkins had 1,000-yard season with 14 touchdowns at Ohio State. And the two years prior was at Ole Miss and had 15 and 16 touchdowns. So he is a touchdown machine.
00:39:48
Nacc
Um, good height, good weight, similar to, um, uh, Henderson. So, uh, Raj, uh, what's there to like about, uh, jetkins?
00:39:58
Roger Emeka
ah Yeah, it's the size to me. Six foot, 221, speed. um And even like the vertical jump, really solid. The broad drunk jump, really good. So this guy's like a really good athlete.
00:40:09
Roger Emeka
Straight line runner with power. That's why I actually love the Nick Chubb comparison. Like when you think of Chubb, it's...
00:40:16
Fab
Yeah.
00:40:18
Roger Emeka
ah A little bit of a looseness when he needs it, but it's turning the corner and running through guys. um So no no surprise, you know, doing it at our Ohio State. I think i mean we're jumping the gun a bit, but i think Cleveland could be a really interesting one here.
00:40:31
Roger Emeka
um I like this type of running back because the size provides a bell cow ability.
00:40:31
Nacc
Yep.
00:40:37
Fab
yeah
00:40:38
Roger Emeka
Right. He doesn't, I think the weakness is where he's only caught, i believe 22 balls per year and at a really low amount of yards. don't think he's ever topped 161 yards in a giving season. So this is kind of your prototypical, you know, two for one down, two down back.
00:40:56
Fab
Yes.
00:40:56
Roger Emeka
And then maybe he seeds his place to ah kind of a third down back afterwards. But um this is like gap scheme fit. So like, you guys remember Beanie Wells?
00:41:07
Fab
yes
00:41:07
Nacc
Yeah.
00:41:08
Roger Emeka
This is, this like, he has the exact same size as Beanie Wells, a little bit faster, a little bit more athletic. And Beanie Wells had, like, that one really good year year in Arizona. So, like, if you were to comp, like, kind of what his, you know, future would look like, I could see him as a more athletic Beanie Wells.
00:41:24
Roger Emeka
And they both went to OSU. So, um but I like him. Like, really fun player to watch.
00:41:30
Nacc
It also would thrive in like a gap power scheme, like a run power scheme, like teams like even the Titans or Steelers, I think would make, would make great fits.
00:41:34
Fab
Mm-hmm.
00:41:39
Nacc
Steelers run that, that ISO, that ISO play on first down every time. But um I think, I think you nailed it with the Browns. I think that's a perfect fit, especially we're comparing him to Nick Chubb, ah younger, cheaper version. So I think he would fit in um really well over there.
00:41:59
Nacc
Fab, anything to add? on Judkins.
00:42:02
Fab
i I think what after everything Roger just said, which I don't disagree with, I think a lot of his performance going to come based off of the quality of the offensive line of the team he gets drafted to.
00:42:13
Roger Emeka
Yep.
00:42:13
Fab
And just because he is a very much a gap runner, you know, so the strong eye formation and all that stuff, it's going right up his alley. He needs to go to ah team with a very good offensive line.
00:42:24
Fab
And that's, that's to be able to make those holes for him right at the beginning. and He's a super physical runner, super, super physical. And again, just to go back to what been saying before, very, very good pass blocker as well. So he could be there on third downs, just from a pass catching perspective. It might not be what you want from running back, but ah quality, quality player.
00:42:44
Fab
And again, we're getting into the, to the later rounds over here, right? We're getting to the second round and third round, this is going a ah This is going to a fantastic um fantastic depth piece to add to the running back room.
00:42:56
Nacc
Do you see him having more fantasy value than Henderson just because he has that three down back bell cow kind of guy and being a touchdown machine like he was in college?
00:43:05
Fab
Yeah.
00:43:08
Nacc
He knows how to find the end zone. like Like you said, he might see the field more because he can pass blocks. So do you see him having more fantasy value?
00:43:17
Fab
I think he has more opportunity to have, I think it's a better opportunity to have more ah snaps and reps and, and a more playing time, which, which will increase the chances of him having ah more fantasy points. I think that's where I'm looking, right?
00:43:37
Fab
um Because he could be there if he's, if the guy's there on even on third down, you know, and okay. And Henderson is not. what is What does that tell you? From a pass protection or even from a um getting the first two two carries and then like hitting it on third down and just getting those extra two or three yards and even goal line back too.
00:43:57
Fab
If he goes to a team with a very good O-line, he could have ah quality quality you have returns from a fantasy perspective. Almost like a Gus the Bus type thing, right?
00:44:08
Nacc
Agreed.
00:44:08
Roger Emeka
Interesting, yeah.
00:44:09
Nacc
Raj, any final thought?
00:44:11
Roger Emeka
No, I agree with what Fab said.
Cam Scadabo's Power Running Style & NFL Fit
00:44:14
Nacc
Excellent. Our next man up here is the running back that has the best name out of the um out of the class, in my opinion, Mr. Cam Scadabo.
00:44:26
Nacc
Did I say that right? Scadabo? Scadabo?
00:44:28
Roger Emeka
I've heard Scadaboo.
00:44:28
Nacc
Scadabo? Really? bo
00:44:31
Roger Emeka
I've heard Scadaboo.
00:44:32
Nacc
really
00:44:33
Roger Emeka
I've heard Scadaboo, yeah.
00:44:34
Nacc
but i
00:44:34
Fab
It's got bow, right?
00:44:35
Nacc
it's I think it's Scadabo.
00:44:36
Roger Emeka
Scadaboo, yeah.
00:44:36
Nacc
Scadabo. Scadabo. ah my my My apologies. um He's showing some cap comparisons. Actually, he's out of Arizona State. Should I forgot to mention? He's showing comparisons to Marshawn Lynch, according to Hall of Famer Terrell Owens.
00:44:47
Fab
Mm-hmm.
00:44:52
Nacc
And um a poor man's Josh Jacobs. um pretty decent year actually in uh in college almost six yards per carry uh 1700 yards 21 touchdowns also had 45 catches last year which is um pretty good for um a running back 600 yards um raj what's your take on uh scadaboo
00:45:18
Roger Emeka
The biggest disservice you could do this dude is compare him to like Peyton Hillis and Mike Allstott. Like, so it's so annoying people who just go that lazy route and say white running back. Let me compare it to like some white plotting dude.
00:45:33
Roger Emeka
Because this guy is a freaking monster, man. Like, absolute battering ram. Physical as hell. Like, the Marshawn Lynch comp. Like, when i was looking at highlights, it's... just driving on people, guys bouncing off him, but then he has enough quick elusiveness, like in a little box, right? In like a little, in a, in really tight spaces, he could be really elusive.
00:45:55
Roger Emeka
That's why also there's, don't know, I don't know what you feel. I saw a little Jerome Bennis where he just has that like little, little pitter patter, like quick moving of his feet, like big guy and, and can, can make people miss in, in a little phone booth.
00:46:10
Roger Emeka
um I think for him, it's,
00:46:14
Roger Emeka
depending on... It's it's always been depending on the team, right? So depending on the team he goes to, if he could be a bell cow, I like his bell cow ability even more than ah like a Travion Henderson.
00:46:25
Roger Emeka
And the productivity is there as well. So I think him and Quinshawn Junkins is very similar. what stops him from being like a star is maybe just the lack of finishing speed like you know the 4 6 40 lack of acceleration i don't think he gets to that top end gear to be able to really have like explosive seasons uh but on the right team i think he could be a very solid starter for you know the the average length of ah that a running back is a starter like a three four years and then he could be a really capable backup
00:46:37
Fab
Mm-hmm.
00:46:58
Nacc
I saw a, uh, AJ Dillon comparison well.
00:47:03
Roger Emeka
I don't like that. I don't think dilan Dylan was to me like couldn't really be as elusive as like the the thundering aspect. Yes, but in elusiveness, I think I think Skydaboo way more elusive.
00:47:11
Nacc
It's
00:47:15
Nacc
that I definitely, that I definitely agree, but you, I think you alluded to it.
00:47:16
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:47:18
Nacc
he He does lack the, the breakaway speed, the home run hitting speed that you, uh, That you want in a and a running back. And um his pass protection also needs a little bit of work. So that might keep him off the field a little bit.
00:47:31
Nacc
ah Fab, what did you um would you think about Scadaboo?
00:47:34
Fab
I got a player comp for Kyron Williams, which I think lines up pretty well with with with everything, his frame and what he brings. I like Scadabo a lot, actually. um For me, like right after O'Mario Hampton, he's my number three as far as running backs are concerned. I think he's going to go a lot later, and I don't really know why, but I think whoever does draft this guy is going to get a stud.
00:47:56
Fab
I think he does have a path to having a three-down roll. um He's really good. He's really, really good, and the fact that this guy has a lot of Like, Roger, you say, Moxie. This guy plays with the chip on the shoulder.
00:48:06
Roger Emeka
on
00:48:07
Fab
He has that, and you want that in a running back, too. He doesn't shy away from contact, and he doesn't shy away from big blocks as well. The only problem is that sometimes he whips on them, which he needs to work on.
00:48:18
Fab
But apart from that, like this is the this this guy's going to get drafted, he's going to get into a starting role, and he's going to make people watch because
Evaluating Dylan Sampson & RJ Harvey's NFL Prospects
00:48:28
Fab
this guy's good.
00:48:28
Fab
These guys are really, really good.
00:48:32
Nacc
Yeah, no, I definitely i definitely agree. he's goingnna
00:48:35
Fab
Super elusive.
00:48:36
Nacc
In the right situation, he's going to definitely excel. Patriots? definitely excel
00:48:40
Roger Emeka
i just I'm having a hard time just figuring which team is ideal for him. Because he's not a first-rounder.
00:48:48
Fab
Nope.
00:48:48
Roger Emeka
Second-rounder TBD, but I think we all agree that the Hendersons, Judkins are going to go before him. So, I mean, are we going to see...
00:48:58
Nacc
patriots
00:49:00
Fab
Patriots have a really stacked running back room though, man.
00:49:00
Roger Emeka
Interesting. I think... I I think Ramon Tre is overrated.
00:49:04
Nacc
but Not really.
00:49:05
Roger Emeka
i don't i think he's had two...
00:49:06
Nacc
Yeah, I don't think it's stacked.
00:49:08
Roger Emeka
Yeah...
00:49:08
Fab
um ah stacked I mean, like full, not stacked as in like.
00:49:11
Nacc
Even 49ers as a rotational piece I think might could work. The Ravens, like you don't know how long Henry has left. You bring in another guy. don't know.
00:49:25
Roger Emeka
he'd be a He'd be a sick raider.
00:49:28
Fab
Yeah.
00:49:28
Nacc
Raider would be really raider would be really good too, yeah.
00:49:29
Roger Emeka
This guy would be sick raider, man.
00:49:32
Fab
Yeah.
00:49:33
Nacc
Yeah, I definitely agree. I definitely, definitely agree. um Moving on to our boy at Caleb Johnson out of Iowa ah getting comps to Matt Forte and Le'Veon Bell.
00:49:51
Nacc
Definitely. I know, Raj, we had this conversation off camera. The Le'Veon Bell comp is is really when you watch his highlights, you could you could really, really see it. Had almost 1,600 yards last year, 21 touchdowns, and almost 7 yards per carry. These numbers are ridiculous.
00:50:08
Nacc
Added 21 catches for almost 200 and 2 4.42 yards after after contact per carry which is Absolutely ridiculous. These are these look like Le'Veon Bell numbers.
00:50:21
Fab
Yeah.
00:50:22
Nacc
um Fab, what's the like about about this guy?
00:50:26
Fab
What's not to like you rank super high in yards after contact yards after contact per attempt breakaway runs. Like we're talking when I say super high, like top five amongst all the college running backs. Um,
00:50:37
Fab
The zone attempts too. He's, he does operate a lot more on the zone, but you have to figure he's, he's very, very smooth, good speed, good vision. Uh, I saw comparables to Todd Gurley, like a little bit of shades on that, but even taught comparables to Arian Foster in a running style. And i remember watching Aaron Foster when he first started playing in his rookie season, the guy was gliding when he was playing.
00:50:58
Fab
So you get comps to Arian Foster. He must be doing something good. Um, He's another guy like we just spoke about it with Cam Scatterbow where he's going to go later on in the in in the draft and he could end up being a three down back for for a player, ah for a team with with very, very minimal investment.
00:51:16
Fab
Super elusive like always, like like a lot of these guys that we're looking at right now. um Yeah, he's he's one to watch for sure. He's looking at a very nice potential future in his career.
00:51:29
Nacc
Raj, what do you think?
00:51:31
Roger Emeka
Chef's kiss watching him play, man. it's this like this is one of my This is my favorite type of running back, like as Fab alluded to, the gliding, smooth running, Foster, foster Matt Forte.
00:51:34
Nacc
Yeah.
00:51:43
Roger Emeka
so um I think we talked about it, NAC. I think the Steelers would be really interesting. ah They run 58% outside zone. zone outside zone
00:51:53
Nacc
I would love this pick for the Steelers.
00:51:54
Roger Emeka
That would be a great pick for them.
00:51:55
Fab
Yeah.
00:51:57
Roger Emeka
We didn't talk about them, and I've been waiting a little bit, but I don't know how sold I am on Pacheco. I think he'd be an interesting fit with the Chiefs. Somehow, for some reason, they they brought they're going to bring back Kareem Hunt.
00:52:10
Roger Emeka
um I just think Pacheco's like not efficient as a runner. and just the like The way he runs, it's it's he's he's not suited for lasting very long in the NFL. And I think they need someone who could spell him a little bit and really play the running back position as it's supposed to be played versus just kind of running into people and being physical all the time.
00:52:10
Nacc
yep
00:52:28
Fab
Yeah, exactly.
00:52:31
Nacc
Well, look, there was also a reason why it was a seventh round pick, right? There was nothing...
00:52:35
Fab
exactly
00:52:36
Nacc
It's nothing, you know, he had he had a good year.
00:52:38
Roger Emeka
Good point. Yep.
00:52:39
Nacc
he had He was on a good team. ah but this year, you could you saw his style got him hurt and came back, was never the same. Who knows what he looks like next year.
00:52:51
Nacc
um Should be able to come back. But, yeah, no, I definitely agree he could be a great fit for for a team like KC. I just don't see how he potentially fits if they're going to start Pacheco and then swing in with the Kareem Hunt.
00:53:08
Roger Emeka
The thing with the Steelers is that from a uniform perspective, it fits perfectly. Those Iowa colors, it's the exact same as the Steelers color.
00:53:12
Nacc
yeah that two those those
00:53:16
Nacc
Those highlights looked beautiful, right?
00:53:18
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:53:19
Nacc
Exactly.
00:53:19
Roger Emeka
in
00:53:19
Nacc
It's the exact same trim and those highlights. it was like, i could that could get used to watching that on Sundays. As far as any fantasy value for him, I guess it's going to depend on where he goes, obviously.
00:53:34
Fab
Yeah, I don't see him getting ra don't see him getting much.
00:53:34
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Go for it.
00:53:39
Fab
much work in the first year and let my, you know, best at least not in the very beginning of the season, unless he goes into a fantastic situation. ah But this could be one of those breakout stars towards the end of the fantasy season.
00:53:52
Fab
When, you you look at the Bucky Irvings of last year, right. And maybe a little bit Tyron Tracy, where these guys that were not necessarily household names get into good situations and earn their spot on the roster and earn their starting spot.
Wrap-Up: Running Backs' Fantasy Potential & Draft Highlights
00:54:03
Fab
We could be looking at one of those.
00:54:06
Roger Emeka
yes Yeah, he'd be good for for like, ah he'd be a good dynasty draft pick, like a stash a stash guy for sure.
00:54:06
Nacc
Roger.
00:54:12
Fab
And if
00:54:16
Nacc
Agreed. Okay, we'll get into our seventh running back of the evening, which RJ Harvey from UFC.
00:54:27
Nacc
um Seems I think Raj seems to think it could be this year's Bucky Irving. Uh, don't know too much about this guy had about 1600 yards last year, 22 TDs, seven yards per carry. We seem to be seeing a, um, a pattern here with the, with the yards per carry.
00:54:46
Nacc
Uh, also added 22 catches for 280 yards, two TDs. Raj, um, tell us more about Harvey.
00:54:52
Roger Emeka
Yeah, so smaller guy, 5'8", 208, 40 at the combine. Really good vertical jump, 38. Solid broad jump, 10.7 inches.
00:55:04
Roger Emeka
And really solid 20-yard shuffle for 3'4". So high ranking in PFFs win above... average metric, lots of missed tackles forced.
00:55:15
Roger Emeka
And that's another thing with this class. Like everyone is elusive. Everyone is physical, extremely productive player, back-to-back 1400 yard seasons.
00:55:19
Fab
Yeah.
00:55:25
Roger Emeka
And when you look at his highlights, you what jumps out is the jump cut ability. really like make people miss breaking ankles. um And I saw a few games, one against Kansas, i think the other against Oklahoma state where, you know, he only has 22 catches, but 280 yards and they were big chunk plays.
00:55:45
Roger Emeka
So he's able to really run routes out of the backfield wheel routes, really get in deep and he has really nice, really good hands. So yeah, I think Bucky Irving, the difference was that he ran the 40 at 4.57.
00:55:58
Roger Emeka
So he was very productive. I think people were a bit concerned about his high-end speed.
00:56:02
Nacc
Right.
00:56:03
Roger Emeka
But when you saw him play his game tape, he played super fast, amazing elusiveness. And that's what I see with him. And I think with him being RJ Harvey, and I think the the the things that knock him down are the fact that he's undersized, dances a little bit at the line of scrimmage, and is weaker on pass pro. He had a 22 PFF.
00:56:21
Roger Emeka
grade last year. But I really like this player again. i find once you get from you know the third running back to like the the seventh or eighth running back, there's a lot of interchangeability between those players.
00:56:35
Nacc
Right. Anything to add to Harvey? mr r j harvey
00:56:40
Fab
He was a two-year starter for the UCF Knights at the Big 12, and he put up 1,400 yards per year in both of those years. So i and this is another one of those guys where it's it's like maybe because it doesn't come from a very big college, maybe because he's a little bit undersized, you have to wonder, like, the production is there.
00:56:59
Fab
You know, like, we're talking about 38 touchdowns in two years. That's not nothing. And he is super elusive, like Roger mentioned before, too. So I think going to a good situation, I think he could be a very, very good productive player. in the right team.
00:57:10
Fab
So I'm, I'm, I'm in on, on RJ Harvey quite a bit. Like, that's his Atlanta scrimmage. He's undersized. Okay. But everything else he does, he could, know, it's a one, it's one jump cut away from taking this house, man. This guy is a, this guy has some serious, serious hallucinogens to him.
00:57:28
Nacc
I'm also seeing some comparisons to Devin Singletary and Damien Pierce for RJ Harvey.
00:57:36
Fab
I,
00:57:37
Roger Emeka
Not great names.
00:57:38
Fab
not great i should i got I got Duke Johnson and Tajayi Spears.
00:57:38
Roger Emeka
Let's hope it...
00:57:43
Roger Emeka
Spears, I like. I like Spears a lot because he's actually good.
00:57:44
Fab
Spears is a little bit better.
00:57:47
Fab
Duke Johnson was good for the Browns when when Nick Chubb went down.
00:57:50
Roger Emeka
God, don't remember.
00:57:50
Fab
He had a few seasons.
00:57:51
Nacc
ah
00:57:51
Roger Emeka
I had...
00:57:52
Nacc
Funny best fits I'm seeing is texas Texans, Commanders, or Giants as ah as a fit.
00:57:56
Roger Emeka
Yeah, yeah, Giants. I'm very happy with the Giants.
00:57:57
Fab
right I'd be happy if he comes to the Giants. That'd be a very good one to punch with him at the time Tracy.
00:58:00
Nacc
yeah nicer Yeah, rotational nice rotational piece, you know. And ah finally, our last that running back for the day is going to be Dylan Sampson from Tennessee.
00:58:15
Nacc
So shades of Devon HN, a little bit less speed. We have Kenny Gainwell and Giovanni Bernard. 2024 stats, he had 1,500 yards, 22 TDs, six yards per carry, another 22 catches for 143 yards, 1,638 all-purpose yards. what do we like about Dylan Sampson?
00:58:29
Nacc
another twenty two catches for a hundred and forty three yards ah sixteen hundred and thirty eight all-p purposepose yards ah fa but what do we like about dylan sampson
00:58:42
Fab
So this is, the body of work on him is a little bit smaller than than maybe the other guys that that we've been speaking about right now. um You know, but again, like another super high elusive rating on these running backs. He had 1,500 yards and 22 touchdowns for Tennessee last year.
00:58:57
Fab
And again, you know, you talk about you talk about production. like This kid has it. he He might not be super productive in the PPR perspective, but he's an explosive change of pace back.
00:59:08
Fab
great lateral quickness, super dangerous in space. So you have to figure that he he's another one of those guys are going taken on later on in the, later on the draft where they can still provide a lot of value to the right team.
00:59:22
Fab
I'm looking at comps and this comp, actually, like a lot. It's actually two New York giants. One is a current one and one's a former one. Tyron Tracy, little bit. I see more Ahmad Bradshaw with him, actually.
00:59:32
Nacc
i wouldn't I wonder why he likes the comps.
00:59:33
Roger Emeka
thought
00:59:35
Fab
Yeah.
00:59:38
Fab
um Yeah, and Ahmad Bradshaw, I really see that over here too.
00:59:41
Roger Emeka
he was going to say Tiki Barber.
00:59:43
Fab
No, Tiki Barber is...
00:59:43
Nacc
and I know I saw something else coming.
00:59:45
Fab
That's Ashton Jinty over there, Tiki Barber, closest thing to him.
00:59:48
Nacc
Oh, boy.
00:59:51
Fab
Hey, man, Tiki was a stud. um ah So I like Dylan...
00:59:53
Roger Emeka
On the field.
00:59:54
Fab
Yeah, that's right, on the field. um I like Dylan Thompson.
00:59:57
Nacc
Boom, boom, boom.
00:59:58
Fab
I like Dylan Sampson a lot. ah really
01:00:01
Roger Emeka
Yeah, me too. Me too. um It's a very similar profile to Jalen Wright, who played at Tennessee last year. was drafted by the Miami Dolphins.
01:00:09
Fab
Yep.
01:00:11
Roger Emeka
So the Devon H. Chen um comparison I see a lot. So 929 of his almost 1,500 yards came after contact. So despite the small size, he can mix it up and and bounce off tackles too.
01:00:25
Roger Emeka
Aside from that, I think it's... Like when you watch it's a lot of shovel passes, a lot of han ton of inside zone from shotgun, like a ton of RPO. So what I was reading about why people knock are knocking him down is apparently Tennessee play like a very spread, ah like a super gimmicky spread offense where...
01:00:45
Roger Emeka
The wide receivers play extremely wide. And so he's running on five-man boxes on a consistent basis. So not sure how much that could be rep replicable in the NFL, but the production is the production.
01:00:59
Roger Emeka
And, you know, in the SEC, man, like 1,400 yards is is is really good. So the last thing also that I think is knocking him down is the ball security.
01:01:05
Fab
And
01:01:07
Roger Emeka
So four fumbles in 2024 and kind of like very nonchalant in terms of how he carries the ball.
01:01:15
Nacc
So that's why he's calm to Tyrone Tracy.
01:01:17
Roger Emeka
And Tiki Barber.
01:01:18
Nacc
The fumbles.
01:01:19
Fab
Tiki Barber.
01:01:19
Nacc
And Tiki Barber.
01:01:19
Fab
Tiki Barber had a big couple of issues, man.
01:01:20
Nacc
Yeah, it's true. He had he had very fumble-itis.
01:01:22
Roger Emeka
it Yeah.
01:01:23
Fab
But then what happened after was coached out. So same thing can be happening with them with Mr. Sampson. So just don't knock the guy for being a little bit too cavalier with the ball. That can be coached out in the NFL for sure.
01:01:36
Fab
Plus 22 touchdowns, man. Come on.
01:01:39
Roger Emeka
To me, this is like third down back to start. I mean, the pass pro, that'll be interesting.
01:01:45
Nacc
That's what's going to be hard to get him on the field.
01:01:45
Roger Emeka
Like, you know, with a rookie,
01:01:47
Nacc
Yeah.
01:01:47
Fab
He's going to have to add a little bit of weight to him, but he's not. like He's 5'11", 6 foot. like He's right there. He just needs a little bit of meat.
01:01:57
Nacc
Yeah.
01:01:57
Roger Emeka
this This could be, was just looking at it right now, the Broncos with how Sean Payton loves just those dump-offs to running backs. This could be ah like it could be an really interesting fit like in in a later run, maybe day day two or day three.
01:02:14
Fab
Mm-hmm.
01:02:15
Nacc
yep and Yeah, I think he probably goes probably further down, probably the third or fourth round running back. But that'll do it, guys, for our deep dive running backs. Well done, boys. That was that was excellent.
01:02:31
Nacc
if um If you liked our running back show, please, please, please go check out our QB show. and That was last week's episode. And next week, we'll be doing a deep dive on the wide receivers. So ah please keep an eye out for that. We will be posting all sorts of content in between.
01:02:50
Nacc
So please make sure to follow us on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, and get us wherever you get your podcasts. um I think that'll do it for us, boys. Raj, that's... Hear the music?
01:03:07
Nacc
Yeah?
01:03:08
Roger Emeka
Yes.
01:03:09
Fab
Yeah.
01:03:09
Nacc
Yes?
01:03:09
Roger Emeka
Yes.
01:03:10
Nacc
Yeah?
01:03:10
Fab
Yeah.
01:03:10
Roger Emeka
Yes.
01:03:11
Nacc
Music coming to you in Quebec.
01:03:14
Fab
Yeah. it's It's coming alive from, from, from earth.
01:03:14
Nacc
Montreal. Montreal. Canada. Quebec. Canada.
01:03:19
Fab
The Milky way galaxy.
01:03:21
Nacc
Oh, man.
01:03:23
Fab
That was good.
01:03:23
Nacc
that was That was something else.
01:03:25
Fab
That was good.
01:03:27
Roger Emeka
Peace out.
01:03:27
Fab
Good night, everyone.
01:03:29
Nacc
Goodbye!