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NFC West Fantasy Breakdown: Puka/Stafford, JSN, McCaffrey, Kyler & More — Featuring Junior from Partial Breakaway
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The Bush League Huddle Fantasy Football Podcast is BACK with a loaded episode featuring Junior from the Partial Breakaway Hockey Podcast — fresh off their 100th episode live show 🎉
In this episode: 🏈 NFC West Fantasy Preview: Rams, Seahawks, Cardinals & 49ers
- 📊 2QB + Superflex Strategy Recap: https://youtu.be/IFFw-3JZxak
- 🏈 Matthew Stafford’s fantasy outlook: safe floor or retirement risk?
- ⚡ Devante Adams vs. Puka Nakua: touchdown upside vs. volume play
- 🧨 Sleeper alert: Zach Charbonnet’s flex potential and red zone usage
- 🧱 Sam Darnold’s audition in Seattle + Jalen Milroe package impact
- 🚫 Kyler Murray’s capped ceiling and blind throws in the red zone
- 📉 Marvin Harrison Jr.’s WR18 ADP debate and volume concerns
- 🧠 George Kittle’s consistency and value vs. McBride and Bowers
- 🧮 Christian McCaffrey’s league-winning upside if healthy
💬 Drop your NFC West hot takes in the comments! Who’s YOUR QB2 in Superflex formats?
📺 Watch more Bush League Huddle:
- 2QB/SuperFlex Strategy and Mock: https://youtu.be/IFFw-3JZxak
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Transcript
00:00:00
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
Introduction and Milestones
00:00:10
Nacc
Welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another edition of the Bush League Huddle Fantasy Football Podcast. that I'm your host, Nat, joined always by my two beautiful colleagues.
00:00:21
Nacc
Or colleagues? Would that be colleagues? But my two beautiful friends, Raj Fab. And we're excited to welcome Junior, who's one-third of the Partial Breakaway Podcast. Welcome Junior.
00:00:34
Junior
Thank you guys for having me.
00:00:36
Nacc
Yeah, the the partial breakaway crew actually celebrated their 100th episode in a live show this Sunday. Congratulations, guys.
00:00:42
Junior
Thank you.
00:00:42
Roger Emeka
Well done, guys.
00:00:43
Junior
Thank you. We're very proud of that.
00:00:45
Nacc
Yeah, well done, honestly. And I know I, Roger, I know I think you were there celebrating in person. couldn't make it on Sunday, but I know you were there for the festivities.
00:00:54
Roger Emeka
Yes, I was donning my thrifted Leafs jacket. It was ah great to show my Leafs pride.
00:00:58
Junior
Yes.
00:00:59
Fab
Oh my God.
00:01:00
Roger Emeka
and But yeah, it was a great time. Nick Jr. and Vince, congratulations again on the success. And looking forward to another 100 episodes for you guys. It was ah it was a great time there.
00:01:08
Junior
Yes, sir.
00:01:09
Nacc
Yeah, congratulations.
00:01:09
Junior
Thank you very much.
00:01:11
Fab
Congratulations.
00:01:11
Nacc
Congratulations on the
Channel Promotions and NFC West Preview
00:01:12
Nacc
milestone.
00:01:12
Fab
Huge milestone, yep.
00:01:12
Nacc
And for all all you guys who are interested in hockey, ah you can follow them on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Spotify, Apple Podcasts.
00:01:21
Nacc
Truly amazing pod for all you hockey lovers. So um check it out. For us, we're going to continue. We have our last preview, our last division preview, which will be the episode NFC West.
00:01:35
Nacc
So we've done all previous divisions and make sure please to check out our 2QB Superflex draft strategy and mock draft that was recorded yesterday. That is out now.
00:01:46
Nacc
So ah
Rams' Season Analysis and Player Debates
00:01:47
Nacc
please check that out as well.
00:01:47
Fab
you
00:01:49
Nacc
And please follow us like always on you know YouTube, Spotify, TikTok, Instagram, and twitter So without further ado, we'll dive right in We'll start with the Los Angeles Rams who finished ten and seven and were the NFC West champions.
00:02:05
Nacc
So they won the division with with balance. Did lack a little clear-cut WR1. I know that they battled injuries on that front with the Cooper Cup and Kuka Nakua.
00:02:16
Nacc
um Kyron Williams, despite being labeled as a punter in the offseason, had a really solid year.
00:02:21
Junior
Mm-hmm.
00:02:22
Nacc
And... to everyone's surprise, did not return one punt. They took the Eagles down to the wire, actually, in the, was it the wild card? think was the wild card round, right?
00:02:34
Roger Emeka
the uh no the divisional round yeah
00:02:35
Nacc
No, it wasn't the wild card.
00:02:35
Fab
yeah
00:02:36
Nacc
It was divisional round, excuse me.
00:02:36
Fab
No, divisional. Yeah.
00:02:38
Nacc
So they were, yeah, took them down to the wire, almost had them, and with rookies giva Jared Verse and Braden Fisk, those guys brought rose onto the scene and figured to be, yeah,
00:02:50
Nacc
looking like they're kind of like an Aaron Donald replacement. I would say looking really, really strong on that front. ah The off season, they signed Devante Adams to a two year, $46 million dollars deal. So that's um makes things interesting. Drafted Jarquez Hunter running back.
00:03:07
Nacc
Drafted also Terrence Ferguson in the second round. So we'll go um basically by position groups. So, They've got the QB, obviously Matt Stafford, who um has been in the headlines for the wrong reasons all offseason ah with back problems and all kinds of issues. Neck, I believe, as well. So ah right now going as QB 24, ADP of 109. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this one.
00:03:37
Nacc
i know he was, you know, people... People kind of saw him as ah as ah as a good QB2 option going into the year, but now with all this injury trouble, ah Raj, curious to see where you where you using Stalak. What do you see Stafford as this year?
00:03:53
Roger Emeka
It's over for Stafford for like draftable QB one. It's over. i think even QB two, it's it's borderline. You know, he's like in the low twenties in terms of touchdowns, you know the completion percentage is still high 3,700 yards, but the Rams have become a running team.
00:04:11
Roger Emeka
the Rams really focused on like being a three wide receiver, one running back team, but pound the football down your throats. And I think it's a way to save Matthew Stafford. I think it's a way to leverage and utilize ah Kyron Williams, who's a, you know, we'll talk about after, but as a touchdown machine, but um you know,
00:04:30
Roger Emeka
we We talked about a little bit in our 2QB episode yesterday, NAC, like Matthew Stafford at QB 24. and i I'd rather take like flyers on Cam Ward or you know even even Sam Darnold, who I know some you know we'll talk about later as well. But I think it's pretty much over for for sat for for Matthew Stafford being a bona fide fantasy starter.
00:04:52
Nacc
it's funny he's 37 but he feels like 47 like he's a very old 37 I feel Bob what do you think yeah seriously he did in Detroit his body got destroyed
00:04:55
Fab
yeah
00:04:56
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:04:58
Junior
His body might be 50.
00:05:01
Roger Emeka
We used take a ton of hits in in Detroit.
00:05:04
Fab
He did.
00:05:06
Fab
Yeah.
00:05:08
Nacc
What are your thoughts, Fab?
00:05:10
Fab
I don't disagree with Roger. i like I've always liked Matthew Stafford, but you're you're capping yourself with how high the ceiling is going to be, and it won't be very high at all. Obviously, you're not going to get any rushing upside whatsoever.
00:05:23
Fab
I love the addition of Devante Adams. I think that gives him a boost in ah for Stafford. think that gives him a boost in touchdowns this year, but not a whole lot. um You know, you're you are looking at a low-end QB2, but it's it's a very safe floor, right?
00:05:37
Fab
I mean, you're looking at the more volatile QB2s out there. Like, Roger, you mentioneded you mentioned Sam Darnold. For me, that's very volatile. Like, you don't know what you're getting one week to the next, right? So I would much rather go with a safer option as my QB2 with Matthew Stafford there.
00:05:52
Fab
you know You know what you're getting, and there are going to be games where he might throw...
00:05:54
Roger Emeka
He might not play. He might not play. He might not finish the season.
00:05:58
Fab
and Well, he's not my first choice.
00:05:58
Roger Emeka
you might He might retire.
00:05:59
Fab
I'm just comparing him to San Arnold. Like... No, that's
00:06:02
Nacc
um Imagine mid-season retiring.
00:06:05
Junior
wow
00:06:05
Fab
o not going to happen. He's going to play the whole season. like they They didn't draft Devontae Adams for them not to like make one more push for you know for the chip. like They probably saw what they had last year and how far they pushed the Super Bowl winning team, right?
00:06:20
Fab
So... they probably feel like they have a little bit more left in the tank than than maybe other people might think. I feel like Matthew Stafford right now is in like his LeBron era, right? Later on in his career, like he's just being arrested for the big dance at the very end.
00:06:33
Fab
Also the same age too. No? Roger? Not going to give me something on that?
00:06:36
Roger Emeka
like four years four years younger and and actually, I don't know, the the camp the camp scares me.
00:06:39
Nacc
yeah
00:06:42
Roger Emeka
Like the the way they're talking, like it sounded like he had to be stretchered on, like it sounded like they robocopped during camp this this summer. Like had to put him, yeah.
00:06:49
Fab
he's got He's got the quarter zone shots going, and it's okay. That's all he needs.
00:06:54
Nacc
Junior, anything to add to that?
00:06:56
Junior
No, I kind of agree with Fab. He's got like a safe floor, right? But especially with all the weapons around them, they've got a good running game. They have Puka Nakua. They've got Devontae Adams, Kyron Williams. So like the only thing that worries me is when you have a quarterback that's that vulnerable to injuries, I want my offensive line to be like top five in the league in pass protection.
00:07:16
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:07:16
Junior
And yeah, last year they ranked anywhere between 13 and 15 there and they were kind of mid. So that worries me a little bit, but... I mean, in really deep leagues, if you really like your depth i and you want to add a third quarterback, maybe, but I don't know if I can trust him as a QB too, to be honest.
00:07:34
Nacc
Yeah, I think I'm on board with Rodgers Jr. there. i'm not If I have Matthew Stafford as my QB2, I'm um um'm panicking a little bit because definitely the injury, the re-injury concern ah throughout the year.
00:07:49
Nacc
We'll move to the running back situation. So as I mentioned, Kyron Williams had a really great year last year. And I think a lot of fantasy managers got him at a discount because everyone was worried that he was going to return punts and that Blake Coram was going to eat into his workload.
00:08:06
Nacc
Obviously, we know how that ended. It did not happen. And he ended up having a really good year. Going as RB12, 32 ADP. I know we mentioned that they drafted Jarquez Hunter.
00:08:17
Nacc
ah Could he potentially eat into Kyron Williams' is his workload? ah What do you think?
00:08:24
Fab
No, I don't think so. ah For me, Cameron Williams is like in the same tier as a Jonathan Taylor. Like he's a very safe, low-end RB1.
00:08:36
Fab
um I've always been a Kyron Williams fan, to be honest with you. And even last year, like after the whole thing about like he's punting and the punting returns and all that stuff, whatever, it's like, it's fine.
00:08:46
Fab
You know what? Like if this guy falls to you as a, like if you're looking for, um I know you guys did your episode on draft strategies a little bit yesterday. And if you're looking for like a zero RB strategy and he falls to you like a little bit later than RB12, like you can do a lot worse than Cameron Williams as your RB1 for the rest of the season, in my opinion.
00:08:57
Nacc
Thank you.
00:09:05
Fab
um Yeah, sure, you want to be careful and pick up the handcuff, go for it. There's nothing wrong with being safe, but I would feel secure with Cameron Williams. He doesn't get banged up all that much as far as a history injury history is concerned too.
00:09:17
Fab
So I like that spot at RB12. You look at the guys that are going around that, that area. And there's Johnson Taylor right before him, Josh Jacobs right before him. And then obviously you get into the Bucky Irvins and Chase Browns, right? But then after him, maybe Alvin Kamara will be interesting, maybe, but I would take Cameron Williams over James Cook, over Maureen Hampton, over Kenneth Walker III, et cetera, et cetera.
00:09:42
Fab
So he's perfectly riding for me and I would feel comfortable if he was my RB1.
00:09:49
Nacc
Interesting.
Seahawks' Season Outlook and Player Evaluations
00:09:51
Nacc
Junior, anything to add?
00:09:52
Junior
Yeah, i mean I mean, I think he's a little bit disrespected year in and year out. And I mean, you can tell me if maybe my stats are wrong, but I was shocked when I saw this stat.
00:09:57
Fab
Thank you.
00:09:59
Fab
Talk to him, Junior. Talk to him. Say louder.
00:10:03
Junior
But he had 43 red zone touches last year, which was the best, the ranked number one among running backs. So like, isn't a running back happy ah offense? Shane McVay knows, and like Sean McVay knows how to use him.
00:10:15
Junior
And they give him the ball, man. They give him the ball, just under 13 yards. 100 yards rushing last year. I just wish he was a bit better in a PPR league.
00:10:23
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:10:23
Junior
He doesn't catch much, but um like like Fab said, I mean, if you're going to go zero RB strategy, he's not a bad number one running back to have.
00:10:24
Fab
Yeah.
00:10:33
Nacc
Hodge.
00:10:34
Roger Emeka
No, it's like you guys said it well, meat and potatoes type of running back. 26 touchdowns over the past two seasons.
00:10:37
Fab
Yeah.
00:10:40
Roger Emeka
80% carry share over the last season as well. The only apprehension you would have, again, it's, is there a bit where he's tethered to Matthew Stafford where,
00:10:51
Roger Emeka
you know If there's an injury and they have to put in a Jimmy Garoppolo or Stenson Bennett, excuse me do those red zone attempts maybe go down? ah But as long as Stafford is healthy, as long as that offense is humming, they're going to give him the ball.
00:11:06
Nacc
Yeah, I tend to agree. I think where when we're talking about safe floors, I think Kyron Williams is that. And as Fab mentioned, you could definitely do a lot worse than Kyron Williams as your RB1.
00:11:21
Nacc
As far as the wide receivers go, so we've got Puka Dukua, who's still going pretty high. Wide receiver 7, ADP 17. um Pretty elite ceiling, but he does have that injury history and seems to, you know I know going to ever ever get to double-digit touchdowns.
00:11:40
Nacc
And then you have Devontae Adams going 10 picks later at or 10 spots after at wide receiver 17 and ADP of 56. So looking at these wide receivers, Raj, I'd love to get your input.
00:11:55
Nacc
are you Are you more likely to spend a higher pick as like a wide receiver 7 on Puka, or would you... maybe look at the value and taking Devante Adams a little bit later.
00:12:07
Roger Emeka
I love Pukunokua. I love the way he plays. He's extremely physical wide receiver. Again, we're going to talk about the Matthew Stafford stuff worries me, but the touchdown, kind of allergic to touchdowns worries me even more.
00:12:22
Roger Emeka
Adding to Demonte Adams, future Hall of Famer, ah guy who was put on earth to basically score touchdowns. like He had 18 touchdowns. He had an 18 touchdown and a 14 touchdown season.
00:12:33
Fab
Yeah.
00:12:33
Roger Emeka
so And Nuku is an injury risk. Like, the way he plays, he's always he's always hobbled. He's always injured. he felt like he had, like, two or three injuries last year where where i I owned him. And every time you just see him across the field catch a pass, truck someone over, like, he looked like he was hobbled.
00:12:49
Roger Emeka
So um WR7 makes sense for him. I'm going to maybe pass this year, and I'd rather, ah you know, take Devante Adams at that cost.
00:13:03
Nacc
I feel like he plays a bit reckless, kind of like I know it's a different position, but like Anthony Richardson, if I can compare him to that, they're just like a reckless kind of player who put themselves into a position where they're but potentially going to get hurt, you know.
00:13:05
Fab
yeah
00:13:05
Roger Emeka
Yes.
00:13:05
Junior
Mm-hmm.
00:13:17
Nacc
But um Fab, you think it's out of the realm of possibility that Devontae actually outscores Puka in points per game?
00:13:24
Fab
No, I was about to say that you're getting wide receiver one on this team 10 spots later. and devant yeah Sorry, Devante Adams over Pukunukua. I think Devante Adams is going to end the season with more fantasy points than Pukunukua.
00:13:42
Nacc
I'll take, ladies and gentlemen.
00:13:43
Fab
Yeah.
00:13:44
Junior
Wow.
00:13:44
Fab
yeah And you know why? Staffer's going to get injured and who's going gonna be throwing in the ball after? her
00:13:49
Nacc
Jimmy G gets his best friend back.
00:13:50
Fab
There it is. There it is. 100%. 100%.
00:13:52
Junior
Didn't Devante Adams say like, this guy's going to get me killed when they were on the Raiders?
00:13:54
Fab
Who's going get me?
00:13:55
Nacc
Yeah, he did.
00:13:55
Roger Emeka
Oh my God. it's
00:13:56
Nacc
He did.
00:13:57
Fab
hundred percent
00:13:57
Roger Emeka
I was like, what?
00:13:57
Nacc
He sure did.
00:13:57
Roger Emeka
When did they play together? forgot about his Raiders stint.
00:14:00
Fab
let good again
00:14:01
Nacc
Yeah, he got he got tried to get guy got rid of him.
00:14:01
Fab
and killed
00:14:03
Nacc
he wanted to leave him to now end up maybe back playing together couple years later, which is pretty funny. What do you think, Junior, about this Rams WR room?
00:14:13
Junior
Man, it's it's sad because it's all dependent on Stafford, right? But I think I feel safer with Nakua because of the volume he sees, right? Regardless if it's Stafford or Bennett or Garoppolo, he's going to see a lot of volume. So in PPR leagues, that's great.
00:14:28
Junior
I just feel like he can be more efficient without Stafford than Devante Adams can. And Devante Adams might become TD dependent without Stafford.
00:14:36
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:14:38
Junior
So if I had to choose, I think I would still go Nakua.
00:14:42
Nacc
I think I like that.
00:14:42
Junior
Yeah.
00:14:43
Nacc
I think ah's it's it's well put the way you you you say it because me too. actually think that Nakua might have more of the receptions um and, you know, yeah more games with, you know, seven, eight catches and Devante Adams might have a few more games with, you know, five or fewer, but I'm thinking he gets more touchdowns. But as you mentioned, it's all tied back to Stafford who,
00:15:05
Nacc
if he gets injured, i think it brings them both down, but yeah, I think you're, you're probably right. Then the Kua will still have a little bit more value in, in PPR leagues for sure.
00:15:15
Nacc
Then we get to the tight end, which is Tyler Higbee is still there chucking along and they drafted Terrence Ferguson. Fab is, is Ferguson someone that could emerge as a surprise rookie tight end one?
00:15:31
Fab
Yeah, it's not impossible, but a lot of that is obviously tiered to the quarterback player, right? And we talk about how like Stafford has to stay healthy, he has to stay healthy. Sure. i mean, Stafford routinely does target his tight end, so I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. Like, Tyler Higby was a household name a little bit last year, so and that's because of Stafford.
00:15:49
Fab
So it's and's entirely impossible. I'm just not... I'm keeping an eye on this, but I'm not really reaching for him during the draft. It's it's really a guy that I'll be looking at Once the season starts rolling around, then we're seeing how the offense is running and if there is any interest in picking up tyler ferguson ah Terrence Ferguson from ah from ah from a rookie perspective.
00:16:15
Fab
but yeah I'm not leaving the draft with this guy.
00:16:15
Nacc
Makes sense.
00:16:17
Fab
I want to be clear on that.
00:16:17
Roger Emeka
No, no, totally.
00:16:18
Nacc
I don't think I'm leaving the draft with either either of them, but Junior, or anything to...
00:16:20
Fab
No.
00:16:23
Junior
No, same, same. They're waiver wire pickups, if anything.
00:16:26
Fab
Yeah.
Cardinals' Season Overview and Fantasy Potential
00:16:28
Roger Emeka
Yeah, agreed.
00:16:28
Nacc
Raj, any last word?
00:16:29
Roger Emeka
No, agreed it. yeah He had a nice, I think he has a good ah athletic profile that's that's worth like taking note of, like 4'3 speed, 39 vertical jump, and he you know he played at Oregon with Bo Nix, so he was a he was probably the third option behind Troy Franklin and Tez Walker, but...
00:16:44
Fab
Yes.
00:16:45
Roger Emeka
I definitely need someone to put in the watch candidate list for sure.
00:16:49
Fab
yes
00:16:50
Nacc
Awesome.
00:16:50
Junior
And just one thing on Stafford is this division is like there for the taking.
00:16:55
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:16:55
Junior
Like literally any of the four teams can win this division. So in the event that they do have a bit of a lead in the standings or whatever, they might, you know, like schedule his games and maybe not play him a week or two if they want to rest him or something.
00:17:10
Junior
They'll have that possibility because of how maybe not bad, but unpredictable this division could be. So it's really risky, man.
00:17:17
Roger Emeka
Yeah. That's a great point.
00:17:18
Junior
It's tough.
00:17:20
Nacc
It's definitely a team that's risk-averse, that's for sure, for the upcoming season.
00:17:20
Roger Emeka
but point
00:17:28
Nacc
and That'll do it for the LA Rams. we will go into the Seattle Seahawks. Also finished ten and seven lost a tiebreaker to the Rams, so unfortunately missed out on the playoffs.
00:17:41
Nacc
ah Basically, JSN broke out last year, top 10 wide receiver with Geno Smith. ah Walker obviously missed some time as usual. Charbonnet continues to be involved, have a pretty one two pretty good one-two punch, and either of them can um carry the load if um it being used as a three-down back.
00:18:05
Nacc
And honestly, very ah awful offensive line last year. ah Sort of kind of capped their run game, I would say. ah Some noteworthy changes. Clint Kubiak is now the OC quarterback.
00:18:17
Nacc
And Sam Darnold obviously is the QB. He kind of gets an audition for one year, potentially three-year deal. They added hometown man Cooper Cup and Torrey Horton excuse me to the wide receiver room.
00:18:33
Nacc
So we'll start off with you, Junior. um As I mentioned, they have a new new QB in the system. Sam Darnold had his best year as a pro last year with the Minnesota Vikings.
00:18:42
Roger Emeka
Kevin
00:18:46
Nacc
going 15 and one obviously he does not have aiden o'connell not aiden o'connell kevin o'connell excuse me he doesn't have kevin o'connell right now in his back pocket so can can kubiak get the same out of darnold that o'connell was last year and could we see donald darnold have mimic kind of the same type of production as last season
00:18:53
Junior
seven
00:18:54
Fab
Cameron O'Connell.
00:19:10
Junior
mean, they put a lot of effort in building the trenches this offseason, the Seahawks did, so which they needed to. But you saw last year, the Vikings started with a really good pass protection.
00:19:22
Junior
And as it deteriorated towards the end of the season, so did Darnold's play. So if they don't have a great offensive line, it's going to be really hard for him to really put up some good numbers. It doesn't mean he doesn't have a decent floor.
00:19:33
Junior
I still think he can have a decent floor, but I don't and't know. it's It's going to be very hard. I think that offensive line is going to be the X factor for sure.
00:19:40
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:19:42
Nacc
Yeah. And last year, I think he finished just outside the top 10 in, in, fantasy uh fantasy numbers if i'm not mistaken top 15 for sure uh so he was slotted in week in a week out as your wide receiver excuse me your qb2 this year kind of going the same way same where he's going he was going last year in the draft qb27 adp 121 roger is that kind of where you see him going or you know do you have more higher hopes on on darnold
00:19:51
Fab
Yeah.
00:20:11
Roger Emeka
I think a lot of people are scared of Sam Darnold, including myself. And I still have flashbacks of the Detroit game. So the last last game of the season and then the playoff game against the Rams where couldn't score a touchdown. you saw those You saw those shades of, you know, seeing ghosts with the Jets.
00:20:31
Roger Emeka
And then i know the Seahawks did a really good job of improving their offensive line. They drafted Gray Zabel. They've been a little bit the talk of preseason with their running game and their improved offensive line. But, you know, we talked about it yesterday or at the the QB Superflex strategy show.
00:20:47
Roger Emeka
Kevin O'Connell is a QB whisperer, and I'm not exactly confident that Clint Kubiak is going to be able to make sure that Sam Darnold repeats as he was a QB 7 last year.
00:21:01
Roger Emeka
So I personally, i think he's i think he's slated correctly, and I think the market is saying i we need to see Sam Darnold do it again, which is why he's at QB 27.
00:21:02
Nacc
Five, any last words?
00:21:15
Nacc
have any last words
00:21:16
Fab
I've also heard talk that they plan on involving Jalen Milrow in some packages as well. So that's going to be removing Sam Darnold from the field a little bit more. um Yeah, i like I agree with Roger. I think he's appropriately ranked at that spot at QB 27.
00:21:32
Fab
And ah even as ah even if I would be drafting him as a QB 3, I would still be eli a little bit hesitant because there's so much unknown with him. and how he's going to be operating in that offense.
00:21:45
Fab
So it's not exactly the situation I want to be involved in, to be honest.
00:21:49
Roger Emeka
Fab, the Milrow point is really interesting, and I agree with it. And it it gives me vibes of Derek Carr when he'd be in the red zone.
00:22:00
Roger Emeka
you know, you'd want him to throw the pass, and then they'd bring in Taysom Hill. And I know Jalen Milrow, they see him as a QB the long run, but there was nothing more frustrated than Taysom Hill coming in to throw a pass or or run for it. So that's a really good point.
00:22:15
Junior
Guys, I really just wanted to use that feature to raise my hand the studio.
00:22:19
Fab
Thank you.
00:22:22
Junior
No, but really, sorry, I just wanted to say, like, I think Kubiak's offense is a little bit more balanced, and I think that could help Darnold too a little bit, as opposed to what but he saw and but with the Vikings, you know?
00:22:22
Nacc
The only.
00:22:24
Nacc
ahead.
00:22:33
Junior
But yeah, no, that's a cool feature, by the way.
00:22:37
Nacc
Well, to go into just a, just a quick end on, on the packages for a mill row. I know the Steelers did the same thing last year in the offseason when they said that they would do the same thing with Justin Fields, and they didn't use him all that much.
00:22:49
Junior
Thank you.
00:22:52
Nacc
He came in for maybe a couple plays. I think the most was five plays in in a game. So maybe it's just a ah way of, you know, having the other defensive coordinators scheme again, like having to, you know, account for Milrow in practice too.
00:23:07
Nacc
So it could be that, but it it is definitely a fair point if it ends up happening. ah We'll dive into the running backs. So we mentioned Kenneth Walker III, RB16, and an ADP of 50.5.
00:23:21
Nacc
Explosive, but a little fragile. And you have Zach Charbonnet, running back 36 right now. Potential sleeper, top 24 potential. um i know, Fab, you just had a ah draft and you drafted kennedy Kenneth Walker III.
00:23:40
Nacc
What are your thoughts on this backfield?
00:23:42
Fab
So I've always been a fan of Kenneth Walker the third so I'm slightly biased in this regard. i want I want to address a few things. One, the injury concern. He only missed five games last year and won the previous two years.
00:23:56
Fab
So injury concern is a little bit too strong there. He's coming into the camp healthy. RB16, I think this is a very good value spot because he actually could put up weekly RB1 numbers. When I say RB1 numbers, I mean like top 12. I don't want to beat the drum over here and say he's going finish top five RB.
00:24:12
Fab
But I do like Kenneth
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00:24:14
Fab
Walker quite a bit this year, and I think he's going at a very good value spot. I like the offense he's going running in with Clint Kubiak, and they play a lot of outside zone scheme, which is really well suited for Kenneth Walker III.
00:24:25
Fab
Whenever I speak about Kenneth Walker I have to say his entire name. have to give respect. um So Charbonnet does concern me a bit because he's actually a good player.
00:24:40
Fab
And so you have to take that into account. But I wouldn't necessarily be shying away from drafting Kenneth Walker III, especially at RB16. And we spoke about a few guys earlier when we werere talking about Karen Williams.
00:24:52
Fab
And I feel like the upside with KW3 is worth picking him at that spot. And you're getting getting a mid-tier RB2 that I feel like can bring you back like weekly RB1 numbers.
00:25:05
Nacc
And Raj, I know in our mock draft yesterday, you bypassed Kenneth Walker and took Charbonnet later on. So i'm I'm assuming you like Charbonnet more than Walker.
00:25:18
Roger Emeka
I think Walker is an amazing talent. I think my issue with him is the yards per carry have gone from 4.6 in his rookie year in 2022 to 4.1 to 3.7. Yes, that is attributed to the poor offensive line play over the past you know one or two seasons.
00:25:34
Roger Emeka
But then his yards after contact has also gone down almost by a full yard between 2023 2024. twenty And again, the injury concern... again like the injury concern He's just always injured. Even when he plays, it seems like he's always dealing with an oblique. He has multiple foot injuries.
00:25:50
Roger Emeka
So at cost, where you could get jacque Zach Sharbin, I think you said, RB36, you're pretty much getting him right in the 70s or 80s.
00:25:55
Nacc
RB36.
00:26:00
Roger Emeka
I'd much rather take Sharbin at cost, banking on the fact that Kenneth Walker III might get injured.
00:26:07
Fab
You're running through those stats there. I'm just wondering, did you did you consider talking about how he's broken the most amount of tackles last year? Was that in there?
00:26:17
Fab
I guess not, eh? Okay, cool. I think it's important that we keep our listeners honest, right?
00:26:19
Roger Emeka
He's always injured.
00:26:21
Fab
So just saying. And Annie still broke the most amount of tackles. So imagine if he wasn't injured. Just saying.
00:26:27
Roger Emeka
yeah but like this part of his, like it's part of him.
00:26:30
Nacc
Junior, word.
00:26:30
Roger Emeka
He's injured. Like he's injured all the time. I don't want that risk.
00:26:32
Fab
Annie breaks tackles when he's injured.
00:26:33
Roger Emeka
I i agree. he's He's a fantastic player that is just always hurt and just not something i want to deal with.
00:26:37
Fab
Yeah, no i and no, I get that. I'm im um i'm joking a little bit there, but I do think that there is definitely a little bit of a right flag that comes with him, but it's hard to pass up his talent, though, I find.
00:26:50
Fab
That's just my opinion.
00:26:51
Roger Emeka
Yeah. sure.
00:26:52
Nacc
junior final word
00:26:53
Junior
ah Yeah, the thing with kind of Walker is you would think he missed so many games, but then when you go look at the stats, he didn't really miss too many games, but I found myself seeing him like leave the game often.
00:27:02
Roger Emeka
exactly
00:27:03
Junior
And so he never, he wasn't getting complete games in. And I think that's, that's the unfortunate part. But, um, Between the two running backs, I don't know if it had anything to do with the offensive line being so bad, but they combined for like 100 receptions.
00:27:14
Roger Emeka
for sure
00:27:17
Junior
And I think a Walker had 46 receptions and I think Charbonnet had 42. So that that's a plus too, which either way, either way you go.
00:27:26
Nacc
I think Charbonnet becomes ah like ah a pretty good flex option week in and week out, either even if um you know Walker is is healthy.
00:27:36
Roger Emeka
The.
00:27:36
Nacc
Because like yeah as you mentioned, he does come out of the game a lot with ah with an injury. They will be spelled. They will both play on on game day when healthy. So I think you can't go wrong.
00:27:47
Nacc
I definitely like the Charbonnet value.
00:27:47
Roger Emeka
they
00:27:50
Fab
I feel like this could be a little bit of Detroit light, but instead of them being an RB1 and RB2, it's an RB2 and a flex play. Because I feel like they're both going to get volume and both going to get opportunities.
00:28:00
Roger Emeka
And they're both, like, I think that the the yards, the missed tackles aspect is is a good one, Fab, but they're both very, like, Charbonnet is an absolute load. Like, he punishes people when he when he plays.
00:28:08
Fab
Yeah.
00:28:10
Fab
Yeah.
00:28:10
Nacc
Yeah.
00:28:11
Roger Emeka
difference is he seems, so far it seems like he's a bit more healthy, but we'll we'll have to see.
00:28:16
Junior
Does Walker get most of the red zone opportunities? Or is it Charbonnet?
00:28:23
Roger Emeka
He's typically been more of the red zone play, and then Charbonnet seems like he's a bit more... ah You know, he had yeah had the really good Cardinals game where he was 22 for 134, two touchdowns, and had also seven catches for 59 yards.
00:28:34
Junior
Mm-hmm.
00:28:39
Roger Emeka
So I think he's going to be a bit more of the third down back, and Kenneth Waco typically be maybe be more in the red zone, but...
00:28:46
Nacc
Yeah, Charbonnet is more of like the change of pace, third down back, and also he's the back in the hurry up as well.
00:28:56
Nacc
We'll move forward to the wide receivers. We have Jackson Smith in the Jigba who's going as wide receiver 12, ADP of 36. thirty six And then there's Cooper Cup, wide receiver 45 with an ADP of 113, kind of in the sleeper value.
00:29:14
Nacc
I'll ask you, Junior, can you see JSN climbing into the top five tier or is he overrated as, you know, defense is key in?
00:29:25
Junior
It's tough because now the attention is mostly on him, right? Metcalf is not there.
00:29:29
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:29:29
Junior
i know Raj in a previous episode was talking about, it are they going to make him the X receiver? Does that change? Is he better as a slot receiver? So I don't know. There's way too many questions for me to bank on him on being a top five. Does he have the potential? Of course. Of course. And if everything goes well, he can.
00:29:48
Junior
um But I don't know if I'm willing to gamble on that.
00:29:52
Nacc
It does seem a little bit high, wide receiver 12. I mean, i love the player, but again, we're talking offensive line that's, you know, it's it's remade.
00:30:03
Nacc
Sam Darnold is now there. Is it going to be the same ah Raj as the Njigbas in Paris fantasy name?
00:30:11
Junior
Heh heh heh.
00:30:11
Roger Emeka
What?
00:30:12
Fab
Mm-hmm.
00:30:13
Roger Emeka
What?
00:30:13
Junior
Heh.
00:30:15
Roger Emeka
um
00:30:15
Nacc
ah How do you feel about Jason?
00:30:16
Roger Emeka
I think 12 is fair. He's right before T. Higgins, the the disaster that's coming up with Garrett Wilson, Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, and Devontae Adams. I I think you could swing between JSN and T Higgins either way. 82% slot percentage last year.
00:30:37
Roger Emeka
That's going to go down with Cooper Cup being there. think he has enough wiggle and enough speed to play some X receiver and play some on the outside as well. But... He's going to be moved around.
00:30:48
Roger Emeka
And just from what we saw from Cooper Cup, I'm not too concerned about Cooper Cup being there. He looked like ah an absolute shell of his former former self.
00:30:53
Fab
Yeah, same.
00:30:55
Roger Emeka
And i think injuries have cut caught up to him. And if there's one thing that Kubiak, I think, will do is he will scheme up plays in that type of Shanahan, Kubiak type offense. So I think his wide receiver 11, 12 around Ladd-McConkie area, I think that's fair.
00:31:13
Nacc
Would you Tyree Kale or Mike Evans before Jason? agree. before jason
00:31:19
Roger Emeka
I would take Tyreek Hill because I think Tyreek Hill is, ah I think his cost is is going to be better ah in drafts than JSN. And I think if Tyreek Hill, if Tua plays and is healthy and you're getting a Tyreek Hill that's motivated and and that's similar to a few years ago, that's that's like WR1 territory, like bona fide WR1 territory.
00:31:38
Junior
I think his ceiling is way too high too high to to to pass up at that ADP.
00:31:39
Nacc
agree
00:31:40
Fab
Oh, yeah.
00:31:43
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:31:44
Fab
Yeah.
00:31:44
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:31:45
Nacc
Agreed. ba
00:31:46
Fab
I agree. I mean, I like JSN's ADP at wide receiver 12. I actually drafted him last night, too, along with Kenneth Walker III. ah I expect him to have a similar season as last year.
00:31:59
Fab
Maybe a little bit better, but not by much. So, like, I'm looking for him to finish as, like, you know, again, like, if If he finishes top 10, it's like he's 9'8". I don't know how he'll be able to knock on the top five. he has to have an explosive season, and considering the quarterback that's throwing to him, it might be a little bit too tough.
00:32:16
Fab
That's why I feel a little more comfortable as a wide receiver 12, and I think he also pays back that that draft capital at that spot.
00:32:25
Junior
I think if they can establish a really good running game, the play action will do wonders for his for his stats,
00:32:27
Fab
Yep.
00:32:31
Fab
I agree.
00:32:31
Roger Emeka
That's a great call.
00:32:31
Junior
json
00:32:32
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:32:32
Nacc
Yeah, I definitely agree. um Anything on Torrey Horton? A little bit of rookie sleeper, 4-4-1 speed, 38 vertical, anything to kind of, do you see him kind of getting into the fold at all?
00:32:46
Roger Emeka
He should be, I don't know if drafted, but he made the team. They cut Marquez Valdez-Scantling.
00:32:54
Nacc
Yeah.
00:32:54
Roger Emeka
And that is, like like, JSN's profile is more of a a slot guy.
00:32:54
Fab
you
00:32:58
Roger Emeka
He's not super fast, obviously with Cooper Cup as well. So i think he's going to get a lot of opportunities for them to throw the ball downfield. So another guy that that should be watching. He had a really good career in college.
00:33:10
Nacc
Definitely agree. And at the tight end spot, there's really really nothing relevant going on at the tight end spot in Seattle. I think it's going to be really depth or I don't see.
00:33:22
Roger Emeka
Elijah Arroyo, I believe, the rookie.
00:33:23
Nacc
Yeah, i don't I don't think I see.
00:33:24
Fab
Did he make the team? Did he make the cut?
00:33:27
Junior
Yeah, because they they released Noah Fant, if I'm not mistaken.
00:33:27
Nacc
Yeah. No offense.
00:33:29
Roger Emeka
No offense, yeah.
00:33:30
Nacc
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think.
00:33:31
Junior
So they got Barner and Royo, I think.
00:33:34
Nacc
Yeah. and don't I don't see any fantasy relevance for or tight ends in in Seattle. So that'll do it for the Seahawks. We'll go, we'll continue this with the Arizona Cardinals who finished eight and nine last year.
00:33:47
Nacc
ah Very inconsistent offense. ah Harrison Jr. had some flashes, but was kind of underwhelming. And he was, what was he, like the wide receiver five last year he was going in the in in drafts, which was, we laughed about it all year.
00:34:02
Fab
He was going wide receiver 10. Like, I drafted him as wide receiver 10 in one of my drafts. That was horrible mistake.
00:34:08
Nacc
Yeah, that must have not gone gone well at all.
00:34:09
Fab
No. I finished four. Like, finished last in that league. Yeah.
00:34:15
Nacc
Yeah, Trey McBride, who had a breakout season, finished as the tight end two. Kyler Murray continued to be a year away from being a year away.
00:34:24
Junior
Huh.
00:34:25
Fab
Hmm.
00:34:25
Nacc
i feel like, I think we say it really often, he's just really too short and can't see over his linemen and has trouble with the middle of the field. So if he's not going outside, he's going to have trouble.
00:34:36
Nacc
have trouble James Conner had a really solid year. I think got injured towards the end of the year, but I think it was one of his healthier ah healthier and better seasons.
00:34:43
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:34:45
Nacc
So and that was nice to see. ah Some noteworthy changes. They emphasized on on defense. They signed Joss Sweat. They drafted Will Johnson and Walter Nolan.
00:34:57
Nacc
And the offense returns pretty much intact. it's It's got some young weapons. And, you know, Kyler Murray's still there. It's, like you said, one year away from being one year away. um And I guess without further ado, what we'll dive a little bit deeper on on Kyler Murray here.
00:35:13
Nacc
um Currently going as a QB9, ADP of 44.6. rushing The rushing upside kind of keeps him in that top 10 momentum, but Fab, is is Kyler's upside kind of cap making him you know more floor than ceiling?
00:35:30
Fab
Yeah. Yeah, he is. Like, right now he's going as QB9 and that is the highest that I would consider taking him. figure last year he finished as QB10. The year before that, where and he missed a few games, so he finished at 27. 19, 10, 2, 7. finishing around, like, low QB1 status, I think.
00:35:52
Fab
So, for me, QB9, QB10, that's where he would be. um He hasn't pushed past 500 rushing yards since his second year. Well, sorry, since his highest rushing total was 819 yards, and that was in 2020. Since then, he hasn't even sniffed like 600. So just to say, like, I feel like a lot of his fantasy points do come from his legs, and if he's not he's not rushing the amount of times you expect him to rush in a game, his ceiling will be capped for sure.
00:36:21
Fab
And I think we're looking at more of um of a floor than a ceiling, and QB9 is appropriately valued for me at that spot.
00:36:28
Nacc
Junior?
00:36:30
Junior
Yeah, you guys pretty much said it all. I mean, hes smile I heard an interview ah the other day that Brock Purdy did saying how sometimes he really can't see anything because of the beasts in front of him and he's a shorter quarterback.
00:36:35
Fab
Yeah.
00:36:41
Junior
And he's like, and then they start lifting their arms, raising their arms and you really can't see. and he's like, you're just programmed to put the ball in a place where the receiver is supposed to be. So he's like, um I throw blind. So sometimes Carla, Calimer is even smaller. So he's throwing blind, expecting his receivers to be certain in places.
00:36:58
Junior
It's really, it's really hard. Like you said, if he's not on the outside, he's got no clear, no clear vision, no clear path.
00:37:02
Fab
yeah
00:37:04
Junior
And what scares me the most about that is the closer you get to the end zone, the less you see, cause there's no downfield.
00:37:10
Fab
Mm-hmm.
00:37:10
Junior
So the, the potential of touchdown scares me as well. So.
00:37:15
Nacc
And I know, Raj, you've been critical of of Kyler Murray a lot over this over our pods. I'm curious to see what you what you think about Kyler this year.
00:37:25
Roger Emeka
I hate him at QB9. I don't understand why he's still rated that high. um I feel like we're still kind of thinking of him in that was a 2020 2021 season where he made midway MVP.
00:37:41
Roger Emeka
And i don't know one of you mentioned it, but he hasn't had a like any. ah over 500 yards. he has The last time he was at 800 yards rushing was in 2020. And his ACL injury was 2022.
00:37:50
Junior
Thank
00:37:51
Roger Emeka
And he was already going down and rushing. He stopped running the ball. So if he's not rushing anymore, he has issues in the red zone because he's short. The Arizona Cardinals have become a running team. They're one of the teams that runs the most now in the league with their offensive structure.
00:38:06
Roger Emeka
I'm not sure why the upside is that high for to put him at QB9 anymore. And they become a ball control offense. So he's a guy who, if I could get him at ah at a better cost than QB9, depending on his ed ADP, I don't mind.
00:38:20
Roger Emeka
But I don't want i would rather have Dak Prescott or ah Brock Purdy or even even Drake May, who who might actually have more rushing yards this year than Kylo Murray.
00:38:29
Fab
Is he like the more expensive Justin Fields?
00:38:35
Nacc
I think he's more accurate than Justin Fields.
00:38:36
Roger Emeka
Yeah, yeah. He's definitely still better.
00:38:38
Fab
No, it's not about ADP-wise. Like, are you going to get more or less the same thing out of Justin Fields as it was as you would out of Kyler Murray?
00:38:42
Roger Emeka
Yes, I agree with you, Fat. It's going to look hell of a lot worse.
00:38:47
Fab
Yeah.
00:38:48
Roger Emeka
but So Justin Fields is like, don't look at the don't watch the game. Just look at the box ask score, and it'll look the exact same as Kyler Murray.
00:38:52
Nacc
Yeah, now you're exactly right about that.
00:38:52
Fab
Yeah. Yes, yes.
00:38:55
Roger Emeka
That
00:38:55
Nacc
Yeah, you're exactly right.
00:38:56
Junior
any Any Call of Duty games coming out this year?
00:38:59
Roger Emeka
yeah i was always a running joke.
00:39:01
Junior
That could determine quite a bit.
00:39:02
Fab
Yes.
00:39:02
Junior
No.
00:39:04
Nacc
Um, so that'll do it for the wide ri as, excuse me, the Q, the quarterbacks will dive into the running backs next. So as we mentioned, James Connor had his, one of his healthiest years and, you know, i think one of his better years as a running back, he's currently going as running back 18 with an ADP of 62. And then you have his backup Trey Benson, who's going as running back 47, uh,
00:39:28
Roger Emeka
you
00:39:29
Nacc
Raj, is this a year where you can kind of see a little bit of a decline in Connor and then maybe Benson kind of overtaking him? I know Benson didn't have the greatest rookie season, but do you see an avenue where Benson does take over midway through?
00:39:45
Roger Emeka
They're saying they want to get Benson more involved. I'm going to believe it when I see it. Conor had such a good season. i have been gobbling him up in many mock drafts that I'm doing, and I think he's a great value at RB2.
00:39:57
Roger Emeka
The worry about him is always you know potentially the injuries, but I think he's as steady as they come. He had his probably his best fantasy season to date, and he also he was able to slide in 47 catches, so he he does help you in PPR um as well. So I think he's he's a great value.
00:40:14
Roger Emeka
uh where he's going i believe it's adp 62 yeah r b rb rb sixth round for james carner like very safe rb2 that's fantastic value in my opinion
00:40:17
Nacc
fifteen 18. Oh, ADP 62. Yeah. RB.
00:40:25
Nacc
Yeah, he's going right after Brees Hall right now. And I think I'd rather Connor over Brees Hall, if I'm being honest.
00:40:29
Fab
hundred percent
00:40:31
Nacc
Fab, do you think?
00:40:31
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:40:34
Fab
I like James Conner a lot. For me, he's a true pro. And you saw it in the offseason when he's stocking up Trey Benson. So, Roger, to your point about how they expect to get Trey Benson more involved, you're going to believe it when you see it. I believe it a little bit more just because it's coming out of James Conner's mouth.
00:40:48
Fab
So when he talks about how Trey's going to get more involved, I think you're looking at like, I don't know if it's going to move the needle that much for James Conner right now. He's RB18. He's probably going Still ends somewhere around RB18, 1920.
00:41:02
Fab
But I think this has more of a ceiling potential for Trey Benson, who I know we're talking about James Conner.
00:41:02
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:41:08
Fab
and And for me, and like yeah, 100% constant pro. He's a meat and potatoes guy, RB2, all good, no problem. But I think this Trey Benson might surprise a lot of people, and he's going to go like a bunch of rounds later.
00:41:18
Nacc
Junior, how are we feeling?
00:41:22
Fab
And he can probably just come back with some flex value throughout the season. Because they're they're talking him up quite a bit. And James Conner knows that, like, okay, he's 30. He doesn't have a lot of years left.
00:41:33
Fab
And eventually he's going to have to give up the reins to Trey Benson, right? So...
00:41:38
Nacc
knew how we feeling
00:41:40
Junior
I love James Conner. I had him last year. Helped me out a ton. Just to Fab's point earlier with Kyron Williams, if you go zero RB,
00:41:50
Fab
Yeah?
00:41:51
Junior
and you end up with Karen Williams and James Conner, you set yourself up pretty nicely.
00:41:54
Fab
Yep. Yeah, 100%.
00:41:56
Junior
I mean, that's ah that's a solid duo. So i know I love James Conner. If they add Benson a little bit, last year I handcuffed him with Benson, but it ended up being a little useless for me because they didn't utilize him that much.
00:42:09
Junior
Maybe that's an option for people too this year.
00:42:13
Nacc
Yeah, i would I would say with the talks, if you're going to draft Conor, you might want to try to grab Benson sometime, some point and in in the in the later rounds.
00:42:23
Nacc
ah But where he's at right now, I think I agree with all of you as well. 18 is like he's he's a top 20 running back for sure, ah even if I think Benson eats into his workload.
00:42:36
Nacc
and And like Raj said, I got to see it to believe it because they drafted him pretty high last year and he wasn't really mixed in a whole lot as James Connor was cooking. So um then we get into the wide receivers.
00:42:52
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:42:52
Nacc
Marvin Harrison Jr. in his sophomore year is going as wide receiver, 18 ADP 35. Then you have Michael wide receiver, 74. Do you kind of, um receiver seventy or
00:43:06
Nacc
you see him junior kind of vaulting into like an elite tier two wide receiver in his, in his second year, or, you know, can he push for that? Even that those top 10 numbers, or is he, is he still kind of wait and see for you?
00:43:22
Junior
It's still wait and see, but I think it's more about Kyler Murray than it is about him. I think if he had more stable quarterback play, I think he could put up wide receiver two numbers easily. But yeah, it's hard.
00:43:33
Roger Emeka
you
00:43:35
Junior
It's hard to rely on Kyler Murray. If you're going to draft Kyler Murray, as we said before, it's about his legs, right? So it kind of leaves the the wide receivers vulnerable. Other than McBride, I mean, even Harrison Jr. last year didn't Didn't see that much volume until the second half a little bit. Or if you were unlucky like me and played him in week two, two touchdowns in the first quarter, and over 100 yards and on two catches. But yeah, no, it's it's's a tough wide receiver crop to evaluate because of the uncertainty at the quarterback play. And I feel like that's a ah trending topic in this division, you know.
00:44:11
Nacc
Yeah. And I know, Rod, you were very vocal on the subject of him going very high last year and his ADP was even very high last year. wide receiver 18, is it an easier pill to swallow for you?
00:44:26
Roger Emeka
I'm okay missing out on Marvin Harrison Jr.'s big year again.
00:44:28
Junior
Thank you.
00:44:31
Roger Emeka
i think Jr. laid it out very well with regards to Kyler Murray and how good of a passing quarterback he is. He still finished at WR27, so he did eventually have a decent season, but it was very inefficient.
00:44:48
Roger Emeka
for a court For a wide receiver who had 100 plus targets, a 53%, 54% catch rate is really, really poor. Like you typically want to be in like 60%, 65%.
00:44:58
Fab
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:00
Roger Emeka
And I think there's some there was like some a lot of analysts were saying there's concerns with him like at the catch point and like he looks slow in his routes. i'm I'm going to be interested in watching him. I really don't want to own own him, but I'll be interested in seeing how he fares this year. Because if it's another year where there's there's struggles,
00:45:18
Roger Emeka
um it's it's not, I think he's going to feel a lot more noise than he's feeling, especially considering how BTJ is doing, considering how Aladdin McConkie is doing as well.
00:45:28
Roger Emeka
So, Neighbors as well.
00:45:30
Nacc
neighbors.
00:45:31
Roger Emeka
Yes, Neighbors even more so.
00:45:31
Fab
I don't, how can you forget neighbors?
00:45:33
Nacc
But how do you fault the guy if his QB is throwing blind?
00:45:37
Junior
Hmm.
00:45:40
Roger Emeka
So this ah i always I always thought that, like, Kyler being small needs to have, like, a big target, you know, that could just kind of bail him out. But, yeah, I don't know. We'll have to see.
00:45:50
Nacc
Fab, any last thoughts on the wide receiver room?
00:45:53
Fab
I'm fully on board with missing the Marvin Harrison Jr. coming out party as well. And it's not going to happen this year for what it's worth. But at, at, wide receiver 18 in your ADP. There's a lot of guys that are going after him that are much more interesting in my opinion.
00:46:07
Fab
And this is not to say that he's a bad player at all. He's supremely talented, but you know, Raj, you mentioned the catch percentage, right? he had 116 targets when he brought in 62 receptions. You have wonder about the quality of those targets as well, which always goes back to what we're talking about too with, uh,
00:46:26
Fab
with Kyler Murray. um I think for as long as he has Kyler Murray throwing to him, you're not going to be able to have a player that's going to bust out for 1,400 yards and like 10 touchdowns.
00:46:38
Fab
Last year, he had 885 yards and eight touchdowns. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets to 1,000 yards and maybe 10 touchdowns, but that might be his ceiling from a fantasy perspective.
00:46:43
Nacc
Junior, final thought?
00:46:51
Nacc
junior your final thought
00:46:51
Roger Emeka
but My only counter to that, and and I'm not comparing them, but Kyler was still somehow able to to sustain DeAndre Hopkins. like somewhat similar profile. They're not speedsters, a bit more possession possession guys, um supposed to come in with like really good route running prowess.
00:47:08
Roger Emeka
But like, I totally see your point. It's just, there's been some proof of concept that Kyler Murray can sustain a WR1 in DeAndre Hopkins. Mind you, a future All-Ortfamer. But again, like ah it's going to be a really interesting season for for him.
00:47:21
Fab
i Like, I know Marvin Harrison Jr. is highly touted, but we're talking about D-Hop, you know?
00:47:25
Roger Emeka
Yeah, but that's, I preface that exactly exactly the same way.
00:47:26
Fab
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:47:29
Junior
And as a wide receiver one, to only have two games of six plus catches, it's ideal.
00:47:36
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:47:38
Junior
Not ideal.
00:47:39
Nacc
Yeah, it i'll definitely up and down rookie season.
00:47:39
Junior
Despite the targets.
00:47:40
Fab
Yeah. Dude. Yeah. 90%.
00:47:43
Nacc
And I think the Fabs point, some wide receivers going after him, Terry McLaurin, DJ Moore, Cortland Sutton, DK Metcalf, Detroit McMillan, one spot after him at 19.
00:47:52
Roger Emeka
McLaurin is going after him.
00:47:55
Nacc
That figures to probably go up a little bit now that he's signed. Maybe that maybe Fantasy Pros hasn't really updated there their list yet, but he's going one before Terry McLaurin.
00:47:58
Junior
Yeah.
00:48:06
Junior
That should help Debo too.
00:48:11
Nacc
And obviously the tight end who was, we mentioned the tight end two on the year. ah He is going ah as the tight end two this year with an ADP of 23.
00:48:17
Fab
you
00:48:23
Nacc
Had a lot of targets last year and ah I don't know. Could he be, could he be on the vert?
00:48:31
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:48:31
Nacc
Like I know how we know how we saw Brock Bowers kind of take the tight end room by storm last year and had all those receptions. Could, Could this be a season where McBride kind of challenges for the tight end of that record of 116?
00:48:48
Nacc
Junior?
00:48:50
Junior
Not without touchdowns.
00:48:52
Roger Emeka
yeah
00:48:52
Junior
I mean, that was the thing that hindered him the most, despite being tight end two. Did he have two touchdowns last year?
00:48:58
Nacc
Two.
00:48:58
Fab
yep
00:48:59
Nacc
And it came late.
00:48:59
Junior
So, very late.
00:49:00
Nacc
It came very late.
00:49:02
Junior
I had him, I...
00:49:02
Fab
They came the last two games of the season.
00:49:04
Junior
I reached for him a little bit last year in like the beginning of the third round.
00:49:04
Nacc
Yeah.
00:49:07
Junior
So, I mean, it paid off, but to be tight end one, he's going to have to take in more touchdowns. And with Kyler Murray throwing blind and not being able to see it within 10 yards, it's going to be hard in the red zone.
00:49:17
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:49:21
Junior
So, no, like all jokes aside, he's still super valuable, but to be tight end one, it'll be difficult without touchdowns. Even though I do suspect he'll get more than two this year.
00:49:33
Junior
I hope.
00:49:33
Nacc
Yeah, you would have to figure it'd be better than two.
00:49:33
Fab
I
00:49:38
Nacc
And fa are you like are you good? And right now, ADP 23. So in in drafts with 10 people, he's going you know late second, early third, and he's going in the second round in 12 team leagues.
00:49:53
Nacc
Are you okay drafting him that high, or would you rather go after another position?
00:49:53
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
00:49:57
Fab
i have to be... No. and And it's... I just don't value tight ends all that much, to be honest with you. I'm not the type of, and and I've always been like this, so I'm probably, you're probably asking the wrong person.
00:50:12
Fab
unless he falls to me at a very good spot and unless I'm locally looking around and like, none of these guys necessarily move the needle, then yes, I'll consider it. But typically I'll always be drafting skill position players at that spot. And especially because we're in a two QB league, it's kind of hard for me to focus in on a, on a position where we only start one of them versus the other positions where we start two, three, or whatever the case may be. Right. So, um, and I, and I had Trey McBride, I think,
00:50:42
Fab
um his second year, because last year was his third year. I had him, I picked him up off waivers, and it was magical to watch because this guy is just catching eight receptions and 90 yards every single game, right? And obviously, to Junior's point, the touchdown issue is a real issue.
00:50:58
Fab
I just can't bring myself to drafting a tight end that high. It's against my beating.
00:51:06
Nacc
I think Raju, you kind of echo that that sentiment. For you, it would be like drafting him in the third. Coming off, it would be what? Like the third guy in the third pick fourth pick in the second round?
00:51:17
Roger Emeka
what his his Well, he would have finished as the WR17 last year.
00:51:21
Nacc
or that Or third round.
00:51:24
Roger Emeka
So, like, Tucker Craft, who a lot of people are talking about right now, who could be a nice sleeper pick at Titan, is going 118.
00:51:24
Fab
Yeah.
00:51:24
Nacc
There you go.
00:51:33
Nacc
So that I think that says it all. elite Elite tight end, it's just that the problem with these elite tight ends is they come at a cost. And as Raj always alludes to, it's you compare them to the wide receivers that are there and the wide receivers are going to have more points. And, you know, you start more more wide receivers than tight ends, obviously, in fantasy football.
00:51:56
Nacc
Unless you're Nick and you draft Laporta and McBride back to back.
00:52:02
Nacc
ah But we'll move on. That'll be it for the Arizona Cardinals. We'll move into the last place. San Francisco 49ers finished 6-11 last year.
00:52:13
Nacc
Obviously ah started off bad with the McCaffrey injury that kind of derailed the season. ah had to rely heavily on George Kittle, who had a fantastic season.
00:52:24
Nacc
ah Purdy, too, kind of had an uneven kind of up-and-down season. Juan Jennings, though, did emerge, but is now injured injured slash holding out.
00:52:38
Nacc
So there's some noteworthy changes. They drafted Jordan James at the running back position, and ah the depth issues at the wide receivers continues.
00:52:48
Roger Emeka
you
00:52:48
Nacc
Feels like we're always talking about wide receiver in in the 49ers land every summer. So we'll start off with the with the QB. and Brock Purdy got his ah big shiny new deal.
00:53:00
Nacc
Right now going as QB11, ADP of 50-51. He is an efficient passer, um but curious to see, Raj, is he... Can he shock the world and be the MVP and, you know, push for top five fantasy football numbers?
00:53:18
Roger Emeka
I'd like to pass along to my friend Junior here who's ah part of the 49er faithful. Please.
00:53:22
Fab
Yeah.
00:53:24
Roger Emeka
want to hear you Junior your thoughts.
00:53:25
Junior
MVP? no No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
00:53:29
Junior
You know what? His numbers will be better so long as McCaffrey is there. It's an addition, like despite the troubles at wide receiver, just having McCaffrey there opens up way more of the field for him, whether it's check downs to him, screens, if it opens up the field for the wide receivers.
00:53:35
Fab
yeah
00:53:46
Junior
So I see Purdy having a better year, but there's always the big if, if McCaffrey stays healthy.
00:53:53
Fab
Yeah.
00:53:54
Junior
What I do like, though, from a general perspective, I know we'll talk about the running backs a little later, is that they went to go get some solid depth at running back with Brian Robinson Jr. Now they just signed McCormick today. So that's going to help alleviate because since the combo of Elijah Mitchell and McCaffrey, this has been the best running back group in a while.
00:54:16
Junior
So I don't see the the drop off being as bad as last year if McCaffrey were to miss a couple of games. That should help pretty big time.
00:54:26
Nacc
Raj, we like him pretty.
00:54:28
Roger Emeka
I am. And it's interesting because his 2023 season, he had a really great passing season, 4,200 yards, 31 touchdowns, Last year, he dipped in terms of touchdowns and yards. He was injured a little bit, but he was able to add 66 rushes for a little over 300 yards and five touchdowns. So you sneakily got an interesting peek in the fact that he can be a rushing QB.
00:54:51
Roger Emeka
i like him a lot as a, you know, he's he's a high-end QB too, Despite the injuries, Kittle is still there. you know There's a lot of talk about rick what Ricky Persall is going to do. Looks like Christian McCaffrey is healthy as well.
00:55:03
Roger Emeka
He's in a Kyle Shanahan offense. It's going to be his his third or fourth year in that offense. I think Kyle Shanahan the utmost trust in him. So I very much like Brock Purdy this year in a somewhat bounce back season.
00:55:17
Nacc
Fab, any pushback?
00:55:19
Fab
I don't have pushback. I do like him, Brock Purdy. I don't know if he's going to be able to replicate his QB6 overall finish in 2023. So I like him as a high-end QB2.
00:55:33
Fab
So QB11, again, that that value is good for me. don't have an issue with that whatsoever. I think he finishes around that spot.
00:55:41
Junior
There's quarterbacks like Prescott and Herbert that are being drafted after him that I think I might still consider at or before Purdy, especially Prescott.
00:55:49
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:49
Fab
Prescott for sure.
00:55:51
Junior
I think his ceiling could be so high if he stays healthy.
00:55:51
Fab
Yeah. His ceiling is MVP level.
00:55:54
Junior
but
00:55:56
Fab
And I know I don't like saying that word about Dak Prescott, but his ceiling is legitimately MVP level.
00:55:56
Junior
Yeah, his ceiling is top five.
00:55:56
Roger Emeka
yeah yeah yeah
00:56:01
Junior
Yeah. So I think there's there's discussions to be made for sure around that area.
00:56:06
Fab
I think I like Purdy because he's a safe option. Like for me, he's a very, very, like you know exactly what you're getting, low variance, and his ceiling is is pretty decent for for like a high-end QB2.
00:56:06
Nacc
And Purdy, I know we'll get into it.
00:56:21
Nacc
Yeah, the only thing that scares me, like I said, we'll talk about it later in in the show, but who's he passing to this year and right now?
00:56:21
Junior
That's fair.
00:56:29
Nacc
So I'm i'm a little bit concerned there. so um But then we get into the interesting running back room that is Christian McCaffrey. So going as RB4, ADP 17. So definitely elite when he's healthy.
00:56:44
Nacc
ah They still have Isaac Garendo there, and they did add Brian Thomas Jr. to the fold. So, with a healthy Christian McCaffrey, Raj, can he lead the league in PPR points again? Or do you see another, or a drop-off, or maybe a potential injury happening again?
00:57:10
Roger Emeka
hundred percent 100 it's christian mcafree like as if if you somehow guarantee a clean bill of health i am pressing that draft button i'm smashing it and it's not even a question like look at his 2020 like i looked at his 2023 stats 1500 yards rushing touchdowns receptions yards seven receiving touchdowns like
00:57:20
Fab
Yep. Yep.
00:57:27
Nacc
Beast. Fab.
00:57:34
Roger Emeka
he was at like twenty five twenty six points per game
00:57:35
Nacc
peace
00:57:38
Roger Emeka
So this is an easy, easy one for me. And I think people will skip on him because the injury history. And I think you've got to be brave, man. If you see McCaffrey in the second round, you've got to be brave and you got to do it.
00:57:50
Nacc
but
00:57:51
Fab
I think the last time he had like a season ending injury, he came back the following year and fished like RB2 or something.
00:57:59
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:58:01
Fab
So I'm saying there's proof of concept.
00:58:03
Nacc
I think enough said.
00:58:04
Fab
There's a body of work that exists already.
00:58:06
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:58:06
Fab
And I, you would be foolish to count out Christian McCaffrey. I, just like everybody else, I am skeptical. However, if he's there for me at that spot,
00:58:19
Fab
it's going to be hard for me not to draft him, especially since I've never had him on my team before. So there's that little level of excitement that comes with it. But yeah, like if he's camp says he's healthy, um the players around him during training camp say he looks like MVP quality Christian McCaffrey.
00:58:36
Fab
Like the buzz is good. Pick up the handcuff, but you know, like, yeah, draft Christian McCaffrey.
00:58:44
Nacc
He just had a kid.
00:58:44
Junior
I'll do my Dov Klayman impersonation here.
00:58:47
Fab
Oh my God.
00:58:48
Junior
But they clocked him at the fastest speed ever in his career during training camp. So watch out.
00:58:54
Nacc
That guy makes me laugh, man.
00:58:54
Fab
the fastest speed ever for san San Francisco running back of all time.
00:58:56
Nacc
He has the most ridiculous takes.
00:58:56
Junior
Oh, my God.
00:58:59
Nacc
It's crazy. It's crazy.
00:59:02
Junior
he's He's too good. Honestly, it's... ah If he slides, and I know it's stupid to say, but and picking someone in the first round and calling him a league winner, but if he slides, he could literally be your league winner.
00:59:15
Junior
You might be drafting, especially in two QB leagues, if you get him in the second round.
00:59:19
Fab
I think that's very realistic, honestly.
00:59:20
Junior
Whoa.
00:59:21
Nacc
Yeah, it's it's I know.
00:59:21
Fab
Yeah.
00:59:21
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
00:59:21
Junior
Whoa.
00:59:23
Nacc
it's it's going to be ah i'm i'm I'm interested to see different draft boards and different people drafting and seeing where he's going because it's definitely going to be interesting. And if he's healthy, he could definitely be a league winner.
00:59:38
Junior
and And with the injuries at wide receiver, PPR leagues, that could be like can be a bonus too.
00:59:42
Fab
Yep. yep
00:59:44
Nacc
Yep. Great segue into diving into now the wide receiver room.
00:59:49
Junior
Yeah.
00:59:50
Nacc
So the Brandon Ayuk saga continues.
00:59:52
Roger Emeka
you
00:59:54
Nacc
he's going He was placed on the PUP list, so that's the physically unable to perform. So I think that's minimum six games, if I'm not mistaken, that he misses.
01:00:01
Junior
yeah
01:00:03
Nacc
So he as he recovers from an ACL, Juwan Jennings has also been hampered by a calf injury slash he's holding out. I saw a funny tweet actually today saying that if they rub some money on his calf, it might get might get him might get him running faster.
01:00:20
Nacc
So hes he's actually going as wide receiver 41 right now, ADP of 112. Ayuk is still going as wide receiver 45. You have Ricky Purcell.
01:00:32
Nacc
who's probably the most healthy on the roster right now, going as wide receiver 39. And then there's Demarcus Robinson, who they have, but he's also suspended for the first three games of the season. So you've got to take that into account.
01:00:46
Nacc
um So Junior, ask you again here, do they already have buyer's remorse on Ayuk? And are we looking at a potential breakout for ah Purcell while you know Jennings and Ayuk kind of on the sidelines?
01:01:02
Junior
Yeah, it sure looks that way. Even last year, Piersol, he came through ah went when needed, especially when Ayuk went down and he came back and he was healthy. He missed a few games too in between, but you saw right away that there was a connection between him and Purity starting to be created.
01:01:18
Junior
And the training camp too. I mean, training camp preseason, you see it it's there. He targets him. He's not he's not scared. Yeah. he's the guy I'm watching for. I think Jennings, like you said, it's just a question of contract. I think it's a quote unquote holdout for, I mean, John Lynch said today he did ask for a trade early on, but they moved on from that. So that's off the table.
01:01:41
Junior
But um so I do think it's a question of money. He just needs to get his contract and he's still going to be as valuable as he was to, to fantasy rosters last year. Um, buyer's remorse on, on I, I don't think so. I think for this year, for me, he's a, he's a hard pass because already you haven't done training camp. You're going to miss the first six weeks. It's going to take you another three to four weeks to get into game shape, like playing against an opponent with pads and being hit.
01:02:08
Junior
So I think, I mean, if you want him for a run at the playoffs, you can, I think he might be available, but I think he's too good of a wide receiver to say it's buyer's remorse just yet. um So, yeah, no, I really like Ayuk. I think he's a really underrated wide receiver in the league.
01:02:25
Junior
And I know it comes across as being biased perhaps, but he's such a good route runner that he creates space.
01:02:29
Roger Emeka
Yeah.
01:02:31
Junior
He creates so much space for himself. It's ah its ridiculous. But ah for this year, for me, he's a hard pass. I can't rely on him at all. Not even to stash him on my IR. I'd rather have Jennings or...
01:02:42
Junior
Better than that, I'd rather have Pearsall.
01:02:44
Fab
Yeah.
01:02:45
Junior
I think he could be, I think he's his ADP right now, Pearsall, is, where was I here?
01:02:50
Nacc
100.
01:02:52
Junior
100.
01:02:53
Nacc
Wide receiver, 39.
01:02:53
Junior
I think that's very fair value.
01:02:54
Nacc
Yeah. what are
01:02:55
Junior
He's going to be wide receiver one on the team.
01:02:57
Roger Emeka
yeah
01:02:57
Fab
yeah
01:02:58
Nacc
yeah
01:02:59
Junior
So, yeah, look out for him.
01:03:03
Nacc
ah what are we feeling in this wide receiver room? who you Are you as well comfortable with Pearsall or you avoiding?
01:03:09
Fab
No, I'm comfortable with Pure Saul. I'm not avoiding. um That ADP is very, very nice. He's coming in on like at a very low-end wide receiver three. I think, realistically, you can even get low-end wide receiver two numbers from him.
01:03:21
Fab
The Juwan Jennings saga, to me, is its it bothers me. More because you really saw Jennings turn it on last year in a little bit amount of time. like You saw him really come into that starter role like right after week four where he blew up with those three touchdowns.
01:03:37
Fab
And even when... like There were games where Ayuk was playing he was going and and Purdy was was throwing it to Jennings. you know like He really took over that role.
01:03:45
Nacc
you
01:03:47
Fab
and And you would just hope that whatever this is going on right now, whatever this issue is, does get solved. Because having those two guys on opposite sides on the field would do wonders for Brock Purdy.
01:03:58
Fab
And you know you're getting a quality wide receiver two at a wide receiver four price right now. So I'm not out on Juwan Jennings, but I'm cautiously, cautiously, cautiously drafting him at his current ADP because, you know, if he misses the first game, then there's always a ramp-up period. And, like, as much as practice is important to these guys, it doesn't – practice is soft nowadays for NFL players.
01:04:22
Fab
Like, it doesn't really substitute what in-game hits are. So I just feel like it's – buyers beware a little bit with Juwan Jennings. But Ricky Persol at that ADP, 100%, I'm all over that.
01:04:33
Roger Emeka
Amen.
01:04:36
Nacc
And Roger, just quickly, if for whatever reason before the season, Jennings does sign his contract to give him more money, he's right now receiver 41, Purcell 39. Who are you grabbing first?
01:04:48
Nacc
who are you grabbing first
01:04:51
Roger Emeka
I'll take Purcell, especially the way he ended the season, week 17, week 18, 28 PPR points against the Lions and then 19 PPR points against the Cardinals.
01:05:02
Roger Emeka
I think he ended the year really well. Both games, he scored touchdowns too. So I would definitely go with Purcell, but... Every year, the the Niners with the wide receiver room, like, it's always murky. And, you know, they they sign... I think there's some cause for concern because they so I think today they just signed Marquez Valdez-Scantling.
01:05:20
Roger Emeka
So they they probably assume that maybe Juwan Jennings, you know, might be risky for him to be there ah week one.
01:05:20
Nacc
Yeah.
01:05:20
Junior
yeah
01:05:21
Fab
Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much.
01:05:26
Roger Emeka
And then, you know, they're...
01:05:27
Junior
They have Robinson too that they got from the Rams who suspended for two games.
01:05:27
Roger Emeka
they're Yeah.
01:05:30
Fab
yeah
01:05:31
Roger Emeka
And then they're going to try to make something out of Sky Moore as well, who, like, we'll see.
01:05:31
Nacc
three
01:05:36
Roger Emeka
But, yeah.
01:05:36
Nacc
o
01:05:37
Junior
They're just taking everything and seeing what sticks, man.
01:05:39
Nacc
Yeah. At this point, yeah.
01:05:40
Fab
pretty much
01:05:40
Roger Emeka
basically
01:05:40
Junior
That's...
01:05:41
Nacc
They need bodies at this point.
01:05:42
Roger Emeka
They need bodies. But I think this will be ah i'll still be a high-volume pass attack. And I think with McCaffrey, with Purcell, we're going to mention, obviously, George Kittle left. I think there's still enough weapons there for for them to to make to make it happen.
01:05:52
Fab
Yeah.
01:05:56
Nacc
Yeah, as you mentioned, George Kittle, we'll dive into just the the the last part here, that with the the tight ends. ah He figures to be involved a lot, especially at the beginning of the year, as probably the most reliable pass catcher on the roster.
01:06:10
Nacc
ah Currently going as tight end three. So a lot of big name tight ends in this division. ADP of 35. So he's still in that ah tight end range.
01:06:22
Nacc
Yeah. I mean, do you see potentially an avenue where you could probably get him at more of a discount because people are going to go after bra Bowers and and and McBride first and maybe George Kittle kind of falls?
01:06:34
Roger Emeka
Thank you.
01:06:35
Nacc
Like, what do you what do you think, Fab? Is he kind of – could he kind of get lost or is are you going to have to pay a premium for him?
01:06:43
Fab
No, I agree with that. I think you can kind of get lost a little bit. I think people are going to be, they're going to reach for the Bowers and the Brig Bards of the world and then I think Kittle might get lost a little bit in the shuffle. ah he's yeah He's played eight seasons.
01:06:59
Fab
of Of the eight seasons, six, he's finished as a top five tight end. Like you want to talk about a model of consistency? It's George Kittle. And the years that he's not injured and playing healthy, you're looking at out a top three, top two tight end.
01:07:14
Fab
So and for for me, if if I leave the draft, and George Kittle is my tight end, I'm very happy with that because that just means as I was able to get more value from my tight end spot while still getting top end talent in my other positions on my team.
01:07:25
Junior
Thank you.
01:07:32
Fab
So for me, George Kittle is, I'm keeping an eye out for George Kittle in the draft. I'll be honest with you. I'm going to see where he lands and where he's going and where where I'm drafting. and And if I can snag him and put him in my tight end spot, I'll be very, very happy.
01:07:45
Nacc
yeah last year last year i managed to get him in like round six so i was uh everyone was he had a he had a tough year in 2023 and i managed to snag him low but uh rajah is this someone you're kind of you know keeping keeping in tabs on and seeing where he falls and
01:07:50
Roger Emeka
Every year.
01:07:51
Fab
Yep. Mm-hmm.
01:08:03
Nacc
If he potentially goes out of the third and and and slips into the fourth, is that someone you're comfortable grabbing ah ah in in the fourth round?
01:08:10
Roger Emeka
He's probably the only tight end of the top tight ends i'm I'm comfortable drafting at that at that rate because he has the touchdown production. 11, 6, and 8 touchdowns over the past three years. He had an 83% catch rate last season. like He is one of the most efficient players in the league. I think he's person i think the is the best overall tight end in the league if you combine the blocking as well.
01:08:31
Roger Emeka
ah So totally, if there's if there's someone who I'm going to take at the tight end position high, it will be George Kittle.
01:08:31
Fab
Yeah.
01:08:36
Roger Emeka
And I think he's so much in lockstep with Brock Purdy right now.
01:08:42
Nacc
And I'll give the final word to Junior, our 49ers aficionado. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That didn't come up well.
01:08:48
Junior
Oh.
01:08:51
Nacc
But I'll give you the final word, Junior.
01:08:53
Junior
Yeah, no, Kittle is like four plus seasons over like four seasons with over 1,000 yards receiving, and he's one of the best tight end blockers in the league. Like Rosh said, one of the best, probably if not the best overall tight end in the league.
01:09:06
Junior
The one thing with him is that like he's he's never healthy, even though he does play every game.
01:09:10
Roger Emeka
Yeah, it's true.
01:09:10
Junior
He's he's not he's never 100%.
01:09:12
Nacc
There's always an injury.
01:09:13
Fab
Yeah.
01:09:13
Junior
So sometimes he's a decoy, sometimes he's just a blocker, so it's hard. The only reason I don't think he'll slide and get lost is because of the injuries at wide receiver. So I do think people will automatically assume, okay, well, they're just going to feed the ball to Kittle as much as possible between him and McCaffrey.
01:09:29
Junior
ah The one tight end that could probably slide despite the big engagement announcement is probably Travis Kelsey. And that could be possibly a nice pickup later on. But Kittle won't disappoint. I think he's well suited at his ADP. Yeah.
01:09:45
Nacc
Yeah, he definitely had a queue next to his name the whole season. I think even week one was started with a queue, and he did miss a couple of games kind of like out of the blue as well.
01:09:50
Fab
Yeah.
01:09:55
Junior
Yeah.
01:09:56
Nacc
So, um yeah.
01:09:59
Junior
His pain tolerance is high enough that you could rely on him even with a cue.
01:10:02
Nacc
Yeah, I don't know for sure. if he's if he's If he's playing, you're starting him 100%.
01:10:03
Junior
so Yeah.
01:10:06
Fab
Yeah.
01:10:07
Nacc
There's no way you're you're benching him if he's if he's playing. So...
01:10:09
Roger Emeka
He's a wrestling guy. He's just faking it, right, Junior?
01:10:13
Fab
Wow.
49ers' Schedule and Playoff Prospects
01:10:14
Junior
The thing with the 49ers too is that on paper they have the easiest schedule.
01:10:18
Nacc
Yeah.
01:10:19
Junior
Now, they always say, right, you got to be a good team to take advantage of a bad schedule. but We'll see how it how it plays out. But there's an opportunity here for the 49ers to have a big fantasy outlook for 2025.
01:10:30
Nacc
Yeah, honestly, ah have a buddy at work who took the under on 10 and a half wins. And then when I'm like, I saw that I'm like 10 and a half seems high for the 49ers. And then I went to look at their schedule and I couldn't find a way for them to lose seven games.
01:10:46
Nacc
Like it was, it looked, it looked really tough.
01:10:47
Junior
the The first six games, I think, is the hardest stretch they have. Then they really play like non-playoff teams towards the second half of the season. So if they can get by even without Ayuk and the injuries to start, even if they're like 500 after six games, they could still really win to the division.
01:11:06
Junior
But I could see them just as much winning the division as not making the playoffs. that It's that uncertain, I guess, as long as
Conclusion and Future Segments
01:11:14
Junior
they stay healthy.
01:11:14
Nacc
right Well, that'll do it for this year's division previews. We got through all of them boys. Well done. Junior, I want to say thank you. Big thanks for for joining us today. Very, very valuable insight and um really come back anytime. That was that was awesome.
01:11:33
Junior
Thank you guys. Actually, ah you've done an excellent job, especially like the dog days of the NFL season. You kept me you kept me in the mood to hear NFL talk.
01:11:39
Fab
Very true.
01:11:42
Junior
And no, ah seriously, like ah the content is great. So it's prepared me for my drafts. And I think the the misconions the misconception in podcasts is, and I say this all the time, is it's not a question of whether you agree or not. It's just getting all the content you can.
01:11:58
Junior
and making your own opinions of it.
01:11:59
Roger Emeka
Yeah. Absolutely.
01:12:00
Junior
But it's not a there's no there's no wrong in getting content from many different outlets.
01:12:00
Fab
very true
01:12:04
Roger Emeka
absolutely
01:12:04
Junior
You know what i mean? So I really hope that you guys had it during the dog days where most people probably shut it off. So ah thank you to you guys, man. Keep it up.
01:12:12
Nacc
Appreciate that and well said, honestly.
01:12:13
Fab
Appreciate that.
01:12:14
Roger Emeka
thank you john
01:12:14
Nacc
But thank you again, Junior. And guys, please be be sure to check out the Partial Breakaway podcast ah for all everything hockey. You will definitely not be disappointed. um We will be back next week with our Love Hate segment.
01:12:30
Nacc
It is back, ladies and gentlemen.
01:12:30
Junior
Yes, finally.
01:12:31
Fab
Wow.
01:12:31
Roger Emeka
Done.
01:12:31
Nacc
Please do not miss that. And we might have a special surprise.
01:12:33
Fab
It's here.
01:12:35
Nacc
We may or may not be doing a live draft. So stay tuned for that.
01:12:41
Junior
Those are the best. I hope you guys do it. No pressure.
01:12:45
Nacc
Thanks, everyone. I'm Nak. That's Raj, Fab, and Junior. And we'll see you guys next week. Cue the music.
01:12:54
Nacc
Football is back next week, boys.
01:12:55
Roger Emeka
done
01:12:56
Fab
Yeah, that that week one snuck up on me, but I'm not complaining one bit.
01:13:01
Nacc
Yes.
01:13:04
Fab
Now I want to drop George Kittle.
01:13:06
Junior
Guys, I have to say, I love the extra chatter after the music ends. It's the best. but it's like It's like after the credits of the movies where you see that extra scene.
01:13:11
Roger Emeka
You actually listened to it.
01:13:15
Junior
Oh, my God.
01:13:15
Roger Emeka
So that that's a way to know if you're actually listening or not.
01:13:15
Fab
It's the bloopers, but they're alive.
01:13:15
Nacc
It's perfect.
01:13:17
Roger Emeka
Take
01:13:18
Nacc
Yeah.
01:13:18
Junior
ah Good point. Good point.
01:13:21
Roger Emeka
care, everyone.
01:13:21
Junior
I did my homework.
01:13:22
Nacc
Goodbye.
01:13:23
Fab
Peace out.