Driving Lessons and Family Habits
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you guys Riley's learning how to drive and you know with mom do you guys remember when you're learning how to drive and she would like two-handed hold on to the side of the door and I actually think she still does that when I drive her around which I don't know what that says but I'm like okay I'm not gonna do that I'm gonna be super cool i'm be super chill I'm gonna just, it's all gonna be great.
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i I find myself constantly lunging for the door to hold on to it and I drop it immediately because I'm like, oh no, I'm turning into mom and I'm like holding onto the door. I'm surprised at that. I can't believe that.
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I know. I'm like, because Riley, I'm like, Riley, do you want to stop? Riley, yeah Riley, want you when ah you want to put you want to think about putting on the break? Riley, you want to put it on the break? Riley, put on the break. Riley, put on the break.
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right Riley, embraced he has embraced the California stop from from the jump. So we've had to. Right from the beginning, we'll have a discussion about, okay, now- What's that? this The slow and go? Yeah, the slow and go. It's when you just roll up to the stop sign and you don't fully stop and you just kind of go.
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like, wait a minute. that's you You can do that like- five, 10 years down the line, but when you're learning, no, no, no. My husband does that all the time. Perfect practice, please. Yes, exactly. It's no joke, but yeah, I feel like I'm like mom.
Three Little Fishes Show Introduction
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Welcome to Three Little Fishes.
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We're three sisters who grew up in the Midwest together, but have since spread across the country. I live in Los Angeles. I'm in Nashville. And I live in Philadelphia. We are all married with children, have all had careers, but now we stay at home with our families.
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Join us as we share secrets and stories about being women, wives, and mothers. We welcome you to laugh along, learn something new, reach out, and join our conversation.
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So let's jump in.
Relaxed Post-Holiday Vibes
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What's up, fishes? What's up, fishes? So I'm still kind of riding high from the three-day weekend, and I feel like I don't really want to turn back into a pumpkin.
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So I just am feeling like I'm ready to be on vacation. I'm having a hard time getting back into real life. I am, like too. I kind of have been feeling that vibe, too. Like, I'm ready to be done with everything.
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Can I just wake up and be like, have no responsibility? That would be awesome. I am kind of riding that high because we're done with high school. We did graduation over the
Yingling Beer and Family Memories
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weekend. It was great to see everybody.
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And this morning, I mean, my husband had to get up, so I got up, but... um I didn't have to get up and like make sure Jack got out the door to go to school. So it was sort of like we're in summer. Yeah, that's Yeah. Congrats, Linda. Next weekend, we head to your house.
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Right? Philly! I know. I probably talk about this too much that I about like they drink. I probably sound like I have a problem, but I want a yingling when I'm there. Okay, Nancy. I'm going to get it for you. Yeah, that's what I want. I think of Tim's grandfather with yinglings. know, yinglings are everywhere in the country. You don't have to wait to go to Philadelphia. Like, we have them here. have some in my refrigerator. Like, did you not see it?
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No, I didn't see it. It's like fantasy that you have to have it in Philly. You know what it is? I think of Tim's grandfather because the first time I had a hangling, I was in Philadelphia with them or Pennsylvania. No, not Philadelphia. Stilton.
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But I was in Steeltown, Pennsylvania with Tim's family and Tim's grandfather, Papa was like, have a Yingling. Have you ever had one? And I'm like, no, I haven't. So have a fine memory. That's the only place that has them. It's only recently that they've been available nationwide. So but like at that point, i don't think they were, you know, at that far. yeah i will I will have a Yingling for you.
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So you all... Thank you. and if you can't see, if you can't see, if you're just listening to this, she's pointing her finger at me, wagging at and me like I'm in trouble.
Guest Appearance: Tim's Humor
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yeah I just also want to let our listeners know that Tim is sitting in today is going to be joining on our pod. So welcome, Tim. Somebody had to whip your girls into shape. but Thanks,
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track they They need to be whipped into shape, not me. supposed to be lookedpped into shape. She was in rare form over the weekend. Yeah, you're your wife was a little crazy over the weekend. rails.
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Who, me? Yes, off the rails. Wild, mouthy, ready to roll. It sounds like she was the fun one to me. That's what it sounds like. Yeah, she was the wild one. Yeah, well, you know, they do say it's Nash Vegas, so I just wanted to make sure I fit in there all right. You did, you did. And you're welcome back.
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Thanks, I'm glad I didn't cross the line. Although Kathy did give me a talking to one night and we won't rehash. I mean, you were very nice a little bit to our niece, but whatever. Oh my God, Kathy, even I know that that was not a big deal. Dear God. such jack I mean, that wasn't the first like scolding she got. Oh my goodness.
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Anyway, I would never be mean to our nieces or nephews. I know. It's been fun. It's been fun. All right, y'all. before Before we get into it, I just to remind everybody to please rate, review, like, send comments, and enjoy your favorite fishes to jump in and join the conversation.
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All right. So what are we going to get into today,
Phil Robertson's Passing and Duck Dynasty
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guys? Well, I mean, there's just like a couple little news tidbits. One thing that kind of like my family noticed is Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty passed away.
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And my family loved Duck Dynasty when it was on. So it was that family down in... Mississippi, i think they had, they make duck calls and they're like nationwide. Anyway, they're this yeah like very eccentric, sort of like God fearing family that had this like reality show and the patriarch just passed away. Reality show. Yeah, reality. that's painters Famously structured show. Yes.
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Yes. So we all were talking about, oh, I remember we used to watch Duck Dynasty. So and then the other thing that I noticed was over the weekend, Memorial Day weekend is the Indy 500.
Indy 500 Memorial Day Celebration
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yeah And I did not watch it, but I did see a clip this morning from it where they had Black Hawk helicopters, two of them, follow the the cars as they were doing practice laps.
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and We're doing that in celebration of not only Memorial Day, but it's the Army is turning 250 years now. years this year in June. Yeah, that's cool. 250th year in service.
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So, I mean, that was like, it kind of gives you gives you chills when you watch these helicopters. And it seems like they're like, 20 feet from these cars.
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And they're like. They were super Yeah, usually the flybys there are not. I know you guys probably haven't been the 500, but Nancy and used to live in Indianapolis, so we would go. you guys, like, they call that the greatest spectacle in racing. And i remember when I when i moved to there after college, um I moved in with a couple guys that had gone every year. oh go to the, I mean, they grew up going to the race. yeah Like, oh, you yeah have an extra ticket. You should come. Like, all right, guys, come on. I am not.
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I'm not interested in watching cars go around the oval for yeah four hours or whatever. Like, no, really, you should come. It was super fun. So I was like, reluctantly, i was like, fine, I'll come. it Like, it's, there's, there's a, I, I, I challenge anyone to go to that race and sit through all the pageantry before the, before it happens. yeah You know, uh, the national anthem back home again in Indiana, all this, all the pageantry they do.
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And then the practice laps and the flyovers and all that stuff. And then when those cars come around for that final lap before they drop the green flag, yeah i am not even kidding you.
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The chills that run down the back of your neck when literally a quarter million people are on their feet cheering on these. It's, I mean, it it's, it's an incredible event. I recommend anybody, anybody go ahead. And since we've been lived in LA, I keep thinking, Oh, next year, we're going to go next year. Right. Right. We haven't it made it back in a really long time, but it's a really incredible event, especially when they do those flyovers. Yeah.
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Yeah. I mean, that flyover looked amazing. I mean, even just watching it on YouTube, I was like, dang. I mean, these are talented people that fly like that. So happy birthday, Army. That's amazing. Yeah.
Mary Lou Retton's Legal Troubles
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um The other thing that mit hit the news is Mary Lou Retton got arrested.
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Yes. What? For drunk driving. Yeah. I mean, if you're going to booze, get a car. I mean, don't drive a car. Like, come on, Mary Lou, you're better than that. Well, it's they weren't what it was. Was it booze or drugs or whatever is the issue there that was sad.
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mean, this is a theme. Like, don't do it, Mary Lou. You know, she had that like pneumonia or something that almost killed her a couple years ago. So maybe she's just still trying to sow her wild oats and like enjoy life. but enjoy life with ah You know, car service.
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I thought that was sad. Call an Uber. Call an Uber. That's exactly right. You're better than that, dear. Come on. You can do it.
Impromptu Q&A with Tim
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All right, you guys. So today we thought it would be fun to just do some like questions. Like how would the sisters answer?
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So for our next segment, we thought it would be super fun to have Tim ask us questions and what we think and see, you know, how much our answers overlap. Well, the real reason we're doing this is because you guys had so much fun over the weekend and you didn't really put an episode together.
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ah So this this is a Hail Mary. Well, we could ask we could not agree on something. We need like a room of writers, like in hacks.
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Yeah. We need you. You know, we need like staff. Yeah. And so when the sisters don't have staff, they're staff So, umm word of blow you know, it doesn't happen. All right. So the questions,
Swim Shirt Debate: Fashion or Function?
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here we go. Are you ready? Oh gosh. Yeah.
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Kathy's nervous. She thinks I'm going to ask inappropriate things, but I've never been inappropriate in my whole life. Really? Not what I remember. Do you believe that? No.
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no I actually, this weekend, you know, when you guys were here, we have like this little breathalyzer, speaking of drinking. And I remember last summer.
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You did it. and we wanted to see just like, you know, because we did like the slow burn with champagne with Renee all day. And it brought up some storytelling from last summer because I took up the breathalyzer last summer to the lake.
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And we always have one big party in the summer. And Sarah, um our oldest daughter, was reminiscing about how Uncle Tim blew kind of a big number.
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Yeah. See, I don't remember that. so yeah i'm not going to say the number. was big. But then it was funny because Uncle Tim is very funny when he's been over-served. You are. sir You're very...
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You're jovial. you I mean, I like to think that I'm always fun and funny, but even more so when I've had some drinks. Yeah, next level. You are. Yeah. Slightly better, slightly more entertaining version of me. sir yeah Yeah. Yeah. You're a happy, you're a happy guy. Yeah. All right. So we've got some questions for you guys and some of them you came up with.
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So were you guys talking about swimming this weekend? Did you swim? We did not swim. Well, we wanted to, but it was a little cold in Nashville. So the one of the questions that came up as we were talking about swimming, or you guys were talking about swimming, is swim shirts for men.
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Kathy, what are your thoughts on swim shirts for men? Okay, so I have... um Teenage boys, there's no swim shirts. i I have bought them all because I'm more concerned about like sun exposure, but they will not wear them. And then they look at me like, you want me to wear that?
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No, mom. Like we have brand new shirts in the closet with the tags on. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that makes sense. I mean, your teenage boys, they go to the gym. yeah yeah They've got those young jeans and they just, they look, but if I looked like a teenage boy, I wouldn't want to wear a shirt either.
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I would, I would be on this podcast right now just in my- You know, no shirt on if I have teenage muscles. Does Peter, your husband feel that way? Is he a shirt or no shirt?
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Peter sadly wears the swim shirt. what Why sadly? I asked him about it. I was like, why do you wear a swim shirt? And I was like, well, is it for sun? He's like, no. He's like, because I'm fat.
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He's like, I got to cover it up. So I was like, okay. That makes you feel better. Yeah. so what i like I appreciate it though. I mean, there are some... Do you appreciate him covering it up?
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Well, I mean, i just think sometimes there are some people that should cover it up that don't. seat not Not everyone has discretion when they should. i feel like i also have bought swimshirts for everyone. And Jack, our son, does not wear them unless he's sunburned. And then he'll put one on.
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um So he it defeats the purpose. And I think they're technically rash guards, but we don't live by the ocean. So we're not surfing. And then even my husband, he has some, but unless it's cold out, he doesn't wear it I mean, he doesn't, you know, he's shameless about just about everything. So it just lets, you know.
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Yeah. And now I like to wear a swim shirt. I think I wear it more often than not, but sometimes sometimes I don't want to wear it, but i like I like it mainly for the sun, but also to hide my gut, which is larger should Yeah, I get that. And I actually have some sun shirts and I'll wear them, especially if I know I'm going to be out for a long time and it's just hard to reapply and You know, I think it protects you. but Speaking of like covering it up, like, do you know the really tight like workout pants that everybody wears? we like Do you feel like everybody should wear workout pants everywhere?
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No. I do not. Probably not. No. Yeah. I mean, leave something to the imagination when I can see all of your curves and all of your little curves in your, yeah in your private places. That's maybe a little.
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Yeah. In the areas. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Are we talking about camel toe? yeah no no Like severe camel toe. Like when I, when I can see your anatomy pretty well and we're just at the gym.
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right Here's my thing. I don't know. Like for me, if that were me, I would not be comfortable wearing that. i'd be like, oh i will I would feel like like would feel almost more more than naked at that point. like I mean, I appreciate it sometimes. on you know but There's a certain type that it's appreciated. Oh, it's okay on certain people? Right, exactly.
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Who are these people you speak of? Well, you know, the very attractive. they're really ultra fit. Yes, exactly. The next thing on our clothes list, question theme, I guess, for this portion portion of the episode is socks and sneakers. What are our thoughts there?
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Going sockless and sneakers. Is this a
Sneakers Without Socks: Weather Woes
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thing? I go sockless. I don't like know I mean, I cannot understand. ah This actually shocks me. Because you are so fastidious about everything. you don't like anything sticky. You don't like any crumbs. You don't like any sweat.
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That you walk around and let your shoes get sweaty with your socks is crazy to me. I don't think so. I don't think my feet are stinky or sweaty. No. Are they, Tim?
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No, definitely not. Darman wears his penny loafers all the time up on the lake without socks. What's what's the difference? Ew. They're not penny loafers. They're dock shoes. Or whatever. Knock shoes, whatever they are.
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I wear no show socks. if i If I'm desperate, I'll slide on some shoes like quick and go. But I would never like stomp around all day with no socks in my sneakers.
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Yeah. Whatever they are. Like that that's just a no for me. I don't like the feel of the lack of the lack of socks. i'm I'm with you. I have i have like the the super short ankle socks. Yes.
00:17:03
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yeah Like the no show. Yeah. No one needs to see what socks I'm wearing, but I want my feet to be covered. That's also a trend right now. Like the young kids are, you won't be caught dead with wearing ankle socks. Like Riley's like tube socks or nothing.
00:17:19
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Oh, Grayson, it's the same way. It's a thing. If you wear your socks, you are old as dirt. Oh, so I'm hip. What I'm is I'm hip.
00:17:30
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I don't know how they feel about the the socks versus no socks, but if they're wearing socks, they're going to be all the way up your calf, which again, to me, if I were in my thirteen teens wearing tube socks and shorts, I would feel like the biggest nerd in the history of the planet. I know. I mean, are the 70s coming back? That's gross. It's so ugly.
00:17:51
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chops up your leg. It it doesn't look good. And it makes your leg hot. It's no for me. I don't care how trendy it is.
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I love a bell bottom though. Bring it back to trends. I love a full bell. But you're not going to wear it. Yeah, I don't know. yeah I'm a no for the tube socks. Sorry.
00:18:14
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Sorry, kids. All right. so Let's move along here. here's ah Here's another question for you all.
Driving Habits Passed Down
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um What's your most ridiculous I'm turning into mom moment?
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Oh, I can tell you that. I'm not you guys. Riley's learning how to drive. And, you know, with mom, do you guys remember when you're learning how to drive and she would like two handed hold on to the side of the door. And I actually think she still does that when I drive her around, which I don't know what that says.
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But I'm like, OK, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to be super cool and be super chill. I'm going to just, it's all going to be great. I ah find myself constantly lunging for the door to hold on to it. And I drop it immediately because I'm like, oh no, I'm turning into mom and I'm like holding onto the door.
00:18:59
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I'm surprised at that. I can't believe that. I know. i'm like because right I'm like, Riley, do you want to stop? can't believe that. Riley, riley want you when you want to put you want to think about putting on the break? Riley, you want to put it on the break?
00:19:12
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Riley, put on the break. Riley, put it on the break. right Riley, he has embraced the California stop ah from from the jump. So we've had to. Right from the beginning, we have a discussion about, okay, now- What's that?
00:19:25
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The slow and go? Yeah, the slow and go. It's when you just roll up to the stop sign and you don't fully stop and you just kind of go. It's like, wait a minute. You can do that like- five, 10 years down the line. But when you're learning, no, no, no.
00:19:40
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yeah My husband does that all the Perfect practice, please. Yes, exactly. It's no joke, but yeah, I feel like I'm like mom and I'm like, oh my goodness. And then he like hugs sometimes the side of the, of the road too much.
00:19:55
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And I'm like, don't clip the car, like the parked car. I think about you, Linda, when you clipped a mail truck and mom was so mad. She was. Remember that? It's like, there goes there goes the mirror. And she was, i thought she could, she was so mad.
00:20:10
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Yeah. Just really, really good. Really impressive. Kathy, how are you like mom? What do you, what trend are you taking on? I cannot be the only one who's taking on a trend, a mom trend.
00:20:21
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I don't think I am. yeah because you're dad. Yeah.
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Yeah, there you go. So what's your most ridiculous, I'm turning into a parent trend? You know, I actually think I do, and I've done this for a long, long time. i don't know if I'm turning into mom, but it's something that she does. And I'm very like matter of fact about stuff with the kids. like They'll come to me and complain about something or You're dying. No, not death, but they'll come to me and they'll have a complaint about something and I'll be like, yeah, you're going to be fine.
00:20:59
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You know, I'm very matter of fact. And I think that's very much Renee. She's, oh yeah she does not get rattled by stuff. And I don't either for good or bad. I mean, sometimes I wish Renee had a little more empathy, but um and I'm sorry, mom. Yeah.
00:21:16
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But I feel like I do that too with the kids. like They'll come to me and say something and they'll you know I try to be empathetic, but most of the time I'll be like, you're spiraling. Try to get it together.
00:21:32
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So that's ah that's a Renee-ism for sure. Yeah. I think it's and and ah inevitable that we all kind of have that. Yeah. We recognize our parents in our... Yeah, for sure. when we are turning into but When we're not turning into parents, we are parents. We are parents. And we've been parents for a long time. yeah you know All right. So moving along, here's the next question I have for you.
Celebrity Life Swap Fantasies
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If your husband had to swap lives with a celebrity for a week, who would you pick? oh So who would I pick for him? I know this. Yeah. So you, you, you know, Rich goes to live his life as a celebrity and the celebrity comes to your house and you spend a week with that celebrity.
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So who would that be? I think Peter would pick Tom Cruise. No, it's who who would you pick? Who would you pick? You are the picker here. your husband had to swap lives with a celebrity for a week, who would you pick? oh You would get to live with a celebrity. oh Oh, that's so interesting. Also, we saw, ah what's it called? than His new movie last night, Tom Cruise? Yeah, we did too.
00:22:36
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He looks old as hell. Well, he's 60. Yeah, I mean, you know, he's still doing all his stunts. He's that old. Do you? It's not, but like, you know, he's not that baby face, you know, night notes guy anymore. He's got a weird, like, nasally voice. Yeah, I think he's had a nose job. He's probably broken that nose 25 times.
00:22:57
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Yeah. hi yeah what did you What did you think of the movie? I thought it was a little long, but I thought, um, I thought they did a good job. They wrapped it up. The action scenes were incredible. The stunt work was amazing. And, um, it took too long to get going. There was way too explaining up at the top.
00:23:18
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Yes. and i But I think it was good because it could be a standalone movie. Like if you hadn't seen the other movies, you could go to that and be like, okay, I get it. um I did get a little antsy just because it's hard to sit for two and a half hours. Like I feel like I'm a two hour, 10 minute girl. Yeah.
00:23:39
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um But I thought it was very, very well done. You know, I struggle with Tom Cruise because I just, for whatever reason, don't like his personal life choices. He's a weirdo, for sure. He's got the Scientology thing. Like, come on. Yeah, the whole thing. And I, for whatever reason, don't know it's like...
00:23:56
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Women unite, but like all his ex-wives, I just feel like, I don't know. I just have like this bad taste of my mouth, but he makes a good movie. I mean, I've seen him interviewed recently. He's been doing his junkets about this movie and listening to him talk about the stunts and fear and overcoming it and like the detail. I mean, it is incredible what he does.
00:24:22
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i did like that too, that takeaway at the end of the movie where he was there, there the Ving Rhames VO at the end where it was like, nothing is written. you know Whatever you want to do, figure it out.
00:24:34
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Yeah. Figure it out. You can do anything. Just put your mind to it and compartmentalize your fear is one of the interviews I saw. he was, somebody was asking him about how do you like, don't you get worried? And he was like, listen, fear is a mindset. You got to like plan and prepare and go for it. Like that's life. You got to do it. And I i did think that was inspirational, but I do think he's a weirdo. I thought it was a great movie though. And I'm glad I saw it in the theater. We saw it in an IMAX, which was great. Yeah.
00:25:04
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So yeah, i thought it was good. Kathy, circling back, so would you want to be married to Tom Cruise first? No. no oh yeah ah We have to be married to them?
00:25:16
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thought theywap They get to swap. It's just a fun idea. If you could swap, what would it You decide how how matrimonial you want to make it. It's your fantasy, but which... It's not who I've always kind of liked.
00:25:30
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I mean, he's way too old for me, but I've always liked Kurt Russell. I think he's like Interesting. Like an interesting guy. He seems like he's got a good sense of humor.
00:25:42
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Yeah. Good. news Yeah. But I'm not like, I think if I was being nice to my husband, he would really want to be a rock star. You know, so I could, i could spend time with like Jon Bon Jovi, you know, Jon Bon Jovi's life.
00:26:01
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The Foo Fighters have a drumming position open at the moment. So Yeah, I mean, i Dave Grohl and i probably would fight, but Rich would love to be part of Foo Fighters for you know a day or two. So if I was being a loving wife, which I am, i would let him be a rock star for a day or a weekend or whatever it is. And I could roll with it. But it would have to be like a fun rock star.
00:26:27
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Like Jon Bon Jovi is cute. He would be interesting. And he's so magnanimous. i would i Yeah, he is cute. her And we're at the same age, so I could... There you go.
00:26:39
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don't want to be with somebody from 25 years younger than me. What about you, Nancy? What would you do? um think I would probably do long lines of music, too.
00:26:52
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I love Rhett Miller, and I think that would be fun. I can see that. Yeah, would you pick that? I often tell people that if my wife ever left me, she would leave me for Rhett Miller. Yeah, love him.
00:27:04
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I don't know him, but I love him. All right, so here's here's a new question for you.
Potential Child Memoirs
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ah Linda, this is for you. Which of your kids is most likely to write a memoir about their childhood, and how nervous does that make you?
00:27:18
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oh Sarah, for sure, because she's a writer by heart, for sure. And it's so interesting because I just had this experience with her. She was kind of like a you know, she's our introvert and she was kind of a nervous child, especially in high school.
00:27:38
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And she recently said to me, like within the last couple of days, this comes back to the Renee thing. She said, you know, i appreciate as I get older that you did not like really do a deep dive with every single time I was upset about something or nervous about something. She's like, I get it now.
00:27:58
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She goes, back then I thought you were being insensitive, but I understand you not doing a deep dive every time I was like upset about something. You know, you were always like, everything's going to be fine. Just kind of but roll with it.
00:28:12
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And um so I think, you know, kids' perspectives and what they're living is their perspective and it's their real reality. They don't understand necessarily motivations behind things, but
00:28:28
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I'm sure there would be some scathing, you know chapters about how insensitive and mean I was. But um in general, I think it would be fine, you know.
00:28:41
Speaker
And definitely it would be Sarah. Sarah is our writer. She is our storyteller. Okay. Well, none of my children like to write. would say English.
00:28:53
Speaker
Maybe they could dictate their story to a ghostwriter. Well, it's interesting. like They all do not like English. I mean, was there were subjects, I think, by far.
00:29:05
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But it was my worst subject. I don't know if the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, but Grayson actually is a decent writer. And then Trevor has surprisingly been a good writer.
00:29:15
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I think they're secret writers. They just don't like to advertise it. You know, even Carson.
00:29:25
Speaker
So they're not even writing in memoirs. so you you don't have anything to worry about, basically, is what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Trevor could maybe surprise me. I feel like I would think that Trevor would surprise you because he wrote an amazing essay for college. He did.
00:29:40
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Yeah, he he might, yeah. Trevor would probably be my sleeper. I think Johanna because she's super, doesn't she remembers all the details.
00:29:52
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And I don't think she would sugarcoat anything, but I don't, I mean, she's still 10 and she still really likes us, so. Yeah. I think we have that going for Look out. Look out. Yeah. It's coming.
00:30:04
Speaker
Hate to break it to you. Yeah. No, we witnessed some of that in the mall yesterday. Yeah. It's coming. Some teen attitude for sure. Yeah. She gave me a look like, what are you talking about?
00:30:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I was like, are you talking to me? Right. Yeah. It's coming. Yeah. They all do it. Although she was super sweet. She came to the airport with Tim to pick me up and you would think I was a rock star arriving. So I still have those moments too.
00:30:35
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, that's sweet. Yeah. She was, she was very excited. Yeah. She initially, she had decided that she wasn't going to go. And as I'm pulling out the driveway, she came racing out of the front door.
00:30:46
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changed my mind. I changed my mind. Oh, that's nice. That's sweet. Uh, all right.
Solo Activities at Home
00:30:53
Speaker
So next question you have 24 hours alone in your house.
00:30:57
Speaker
Do you clean? you binge TV? you hide from everyone? what What are you, what are you doing? You have a house to yourself.
00:31:06
Speaker
I could tell you what I would do. yeah i would like not care if I was in pajamas or I would just be like hanging out and I would just be like watching TV and just having coffee and I would not do a fricking thing. I would just, you know, relax.
00:31:22
Speaker
I actually had this happen recently and, you know, it doesn't happen very often. And um I did like half and a half. Like i did a deep clean, like I made noise. I put music, like Rich works from home. So if I have the house to myself, I put on music. I did a little bit of a deep clean. I'm making noise.
00:31:45
Speaker
I'm making noise. I did the stuff that I would want to do because I'm more of a morning person. And then i laid on the couch and binge watched some TV. And um then I ate like cheese and crackers and had wine for dinner. Like, I mean, so I did both things.
00:32:06
Speaker
I don't think I would do nothing. I mean, I didn't do nothing all day, but I definitely gave myself some grace and I did it on my own terms. And most of my day I do on everybody else's terms just because we have people working from home. But Yeah, I mean, it doesn't happen very often.
00:32:26
Speaker
Yeah. ah The girl dinner is the thing that I kind of like treasure when I have the house to myself. The girl dinner? Yeah, so girl dinner. It's like I don't make a meal.
00:32:38
Speaker
I'll eat cereal or I'll have cheese and crackers or, you know. Popcorn. Popcorn. Or I'll eat ice cream for dinner. That is my just like whatever it is I feel like eating, i will eat and I'm not cooking it.
00:32:54
Speaker
So that I love. And actually, Rich will listen to this and he'll be like, Glenn, I don't care if you cook. And he doesn't. But I make meals. You know, I make like three meals a day for everybody.
00:33:06
Speaker
So when I have the house to myself, it's girl dinner. And I love it. All right. What about you, Kathy? What would you do? I would maybe work out. Then I would lay in my bed and eat buttered popcorn because it's like my favorite thing.
00:33:24
Speaker
And then nobody would have a bellyache for the rest of the day. yeah yeah it's exactly what would happen. But I love that you're like, I'm going to work first. I'm like, I'm not even getting dressed.
00:33:35
Speaker
I'm like going to walk around naked and And here you are like, I'm going to work out and then I'm going to eat popcorn and make myself ill. And I'm going to watch TV. And then i actually like the girl dinner too, Linda, because I would probably have Captain Crunch.
00:33:53
Speaker
it sp like oh Like a little treat? Yeah. If I just, if we had it, but I probably wouldn't do it. Tim, what would you do if you had the house to yourself? When I have the house to myself, I typically write.
00:34:07
Speaker
ah yeah yeah i like I don't like an audience when I'm writing a new song. So I strap on a guitar, turn the piano on and and yeah get loud and play. for it. like I like it. Nice. Productive.
00:34:21
Speaker
Yeah. um I like that for I don't do that every time. I also enjoy a nice binge of the big... so Lately in our house, um I don't know if you get how familiar you guys are with Full
Full House: A Family Favorite
00:34:33
Speaker
House. There are like seven seasons.
00:34:36
Speaker
And JoJo is on her second binge. Yeah, it's a cute show. Yeah. But I have heard that theme song so many times. so So it would just be nice to get the big TV in the living room and not have to compete with a 10-year-old in full house.
00:34:54
Speaker
You know, it's so funny because we have like older kids, obviously, and our kids like cycle through binging like The Office. Yeah.
00:35:04
Speaker
Bob's Burgers has been on our house a lot. Yeah. um Parks and Rec. Yeah. um sex in the city so what are you guys speaking of like streaming services what do you guys think uh what's your preference do you want new you there's a new series that you love do you want all the episodes at once or do you want them once a week no no no i can answer that easily i want them all at once i'm paying for the service I want to be able to watch the whole thing. i want to see the whole arc at once. Like growing up, we had live TV, like not live TV, but we had network TV. So we had to watch all the commercials.
00:35:42
Speaker
We had to wait every single week for the next thing. Now it's like, I feel like I'm paying for you. Let me ding, watch what I want to watch start to finish.
00:35:53
Speaker
um Sarah and I just started watching this new show called Sirens. Yeah, that is a little... And it's Kathy watched, I think the first episode with us.
00:36:04
Speaker
It's actually pretty good. And there's a twist. So do I need to start watching again? I mean, I think you'll enjoy it. was half asleep. Then I woke up and I was like, what you guys watch? What's happening?
00:36:18
Speaker
is that like some sexy scene? was like, whoa. No, no, no. It's pretty good. Yeah. I'm enjoying it. Yeah. But yeah, I want them all at once. Like Hacks is releasing everything time. Yeah.
00:36:31
Speaker
yeah Stop it. Just let me have ah what I want. I've paid for it. i think I think that all at once, I get the urge. like i A lot of times I'll watch an episode and I'm like, I don't want to wait another week.
00:36:45
Speaker
ah But also i think it's I think when you binge them all at once, it's a more forgettable experience. And it's not kind of strengthening your emotional connection to that show. Mm-hmm.
00:36:56
Speaker
Um, so I, I'm, I'm six of one, half a dozen of dozen of the other. I, I appreciate, I think I, I like the shows better when I have to wait a week to catch up with them. And then, and the ones that aren't as good, I'm like, they fall off and you don't end up finishing. But the ones, the ones that are good, i think I like it. I think I like it better when, when you have you, you got a little more skin in the game, I guess is what I'm saying when you have to wait a week.
00:37:20
Speaker
Well, it's interesting because I've been shows that I really like, and then I'll go back and rewatch them to catch the nuance. Yeah. So like if I get to watch the whole arc, pretty like I don't sit and watch TV for six hours, but if I can catch two episodes of something at once, then I can watch another like.
00:37:41
Speaker
Very rarely do I watch the whole thing. But if I find a show that I really like, I will go back and watch the entire series again and I'll catch some of the details. So that's my thing is like, I wish I could just like saturate my brain with whatever it is I want to saturate it with.
00:38:01
Speaker
Yeah. I don't like being edited or like, I don't know. Speaking of reality television, um Which of you three would last, would survive the longest on a reality competition show?
Reality TV Critique
00:38:16
Speaker
And which which one would get kicked off first?
00:38:20
Speaker
I would get kicked off first, for sure. that? have no tolerance for any of that nonsense. Reality shows annoy the shit out of me. I don't watch them. why I have never been like watching The Real Housewives or The Race. or the like i just don't watch that stuff. The Kardashians. I'm sorry, Tim. I just don't I know you're like listing my resume here. I'm sorry. can't stand that stuff. I'm with you. I don't watch them either. can't stand it. I hate it. We watch The Amazing Race. We've always watched that. We watch Top Chef.
00:38:53
Speaker
um and that's about That's about the extent of what Nancy and I will watch together. She'll occasionally watch The Housewives, and I can't. i can't that The energy coming out of the TV when that's on, i just can't. it it Honestly, it feels like work. I mean um i don't do ah yeah i haven't done a ton of those. I have cut The Kardashians, but I haven't ah i did a very small stand on Housewives. Yeah.
00:39:14
Speaker
The British baking show I'll watch. Yeah, nice and easy. and like yeah that's i mean, that's why we like Top Chef, too, and and Amazing Race. Again, they're like focused on like poit positivity. it's not like They're not trying to foster...
00:39:29
Speaker
foster drama and stick their fingers in in the pie and like stir stuff up. like Not that there aren't any dramas that that we don't watch and and see them unfold, but it's not the point. But want wait fake drama.
00:39:42
Speaker
I don't want like- Yeah, come with you. The reality or the unscripted or whatever, it's like, I don't know. It's so high school. I'm just- yeah I'm just, I'm so over it. I'm so over high school. i don't want it. I would love to go on the Amazing Race.
00:39:56
Speaker
I wanted Kathy. know. I first wanted Tim to do it with me. He said, absolutely not. I'm not doing that with you. i think Sarah will do it with you. and then I was like, Kathy, you, we, I said years ago, Kathy, let's do the Amazing Race together. You're really good navigator.
00:40:10
Speaker
I'm like, you'll be great. I'm like, and she's just like, no, I won't do it. I will not do it. I would be a good navigator. But you are a good navigator. i mean, it's a skill.
00:40:21
Speaker
Listen, we would get killed in like the food stuff. I can't do it. can't eat the food. and eat the You just, it would be fine. It would be No, i I can't eat that.
00:40:40
Speaker
Um, I still, and you would be good at the puzzles. Then I would get sick and then they'd have to helicopter me off the show because i'd be like sick as a dog. Oh my gosh. You're getting, you have to be a helicopter off. You're so sick. No. Yeah.
00:40:57
Speaker
No worms for her. It's not Survivor. It's just the Amazing Race. And I think Phil would love us. like I think that it would be- probably would, but- They would love us.
00:41:08
Speaker
The sisters. Right. I mean- I'm not doing that. Nancy, you can barely eat sushi without a fork, let alone like- the and that's You do not eat sushi with a fork.
00:41:20
Speaker
I do not eat sushi with a fork. And I eat sushi- I love sushi. You do eat pizza with a fork though. I do too. you know I think that's so weird.
00:41:32
Speaker
and I don't like bite into it. It gets stuck in my teeth and I don't like it. Do it right. I mean, is there anything, Tim thinks it's weird that I want to use a fork for pizza. Do you do anything weird? No, I don't do anything weird at all.
00:41:47
Speaker
Okay, here, I got one more question and then and then we can probably wrap it up.
Unsolicited Parenting Advice
00:41:51
Speaker
um What's the worst piece of advice you've ever received as a mom or a wife? So I was living in St. Louis at the time and my kids were young like younger than 10.
00:42:06
Speaker
And um i mean, they were like kindergarten, younger, maybe Grayson. Yeah, I think he was like first grade or second grade, maybe. They were young and it had it was like winter time um they decided they, we lived in like a court and they were so excited to make an igloo.
00:42:32
Speaker
And we had one of those, you know, like brick, those plastic brick. Yeah, the brick mold. yeah Yeah. Plastic. Yeah. Next to Igloo. Yeah. And they started making Igloo and it was storming so bad.
00:42:46
Speaker
And I remember I was out there with them because they were so young. I remember this mom lived like a couple of houses down the street. She came down and was like, she saw me kind of like in the igloo helping them. She's like, this too will pass.
00:43:06
Speaker
Like I was like upset that I had to be out there with the kids or something. And I was like. How sad for her. i know that's so pathetic. Like talking about, like i actually was having a great time with them and I was like.
00:43:20
Speaker
Yeah. What? I mean, I didn't, she just said that to me out of the blue. And I was like, that is pathetic. Mm-hmm. And also what made you think that I needed to have like that terrible pep talk? Like, I'm like, she's like, I have never forgotten that. I was just like, what the heck lady? Oh, that made me think of like the one time i think I told i this lady's never, I've never, she was a stranger and I was going to see Tim. He was, you're, Tim, you've been away for work and I was meeting you with our, with Riley and he was six months at the time.
00:43:58
Speaker
And it was the first time or a little under six months. And it's the first time and was flying by myself. And this woman was in the plane as I was getting, I was gay on the plane. I had Riley had all the things and she looked up at me and she had like tears in her eyes. And she's just like, he's beautiful and just enjoy it because I just sent my first baby off to college And it goes by really fast.
00:44:22
Speaker
And I remember thinking, what is this lady talking about? Like I'm up to my eyeballs. But now, like, but I've never forgotten that because it really stuck with me that, you know, it does go by super fast.
00:44:39
Speaker
It does. Right? Trying to enjoy everything. Like it's, yeah. I have this weird thing where I don't really like, put in my long-term memory bad things that people tell me.
00:44:51
Speaker
I've had a lot of them. You know, people always feel like they have to give you advice, you know, and I think along the lines with Kathy is like a lot of it Move along. Yeah. I mean, a lot of times people, you know, give their two cents about stuff that, I don't know,
00:45:11
Speaker
I just, if there's any young ones, young parents out there, just do your own thing. Do what works for you and it'll all work out. It's all going to be fine. There's no one way to do it.
00:45:23
Speaker
And I think sometimes everybody feels like there's one way to do it. So. There's no one way. It's all going to work out. I don't know.
00:45:34
Speaker
I don't know and know. I guess that wasn't bad advice that lady gave me. It just was advice I remembered. It was just not even advice. She's just almost well-wish. Well, it made you feel weird. I think that's the thing. Yeah. Sometimes people overstep and they feel like they're giving you some like little nugget of pearl of wisdom or whatever, but it's like, I'm not asking you. so
00:46:02
Speaker
Tim, you know what I would be interested to know? I feel like women are always telling women or talking to women and giving stories and like things. Do guys do that to guys? like just has Has a dad given you advice that you wanted or haven't wanted?
00:46:20
Speaker
not I don't think so. No. I mean, if you're a dad and you're out with just the kids, yeah, nobody's. You're not doing it right. Not that I can remember. To be honest, I think it would be the women coming up more than the men. The men are just like, if they if they have kids and they're out, they're worried about their own kids. Yeah, I don't i don't i can't recall any other dad ever trying to give me advice.
00:46:45
Speaker
Interesting. It's an interesting thing, right? It is. Along those lines, i always thought it was weird if you know, you're a dad with the kids and somebody refers it first to you as you're babysitting.
00:46:59
Speaker
But I said that was, I'm like, but I'm their, I'm their dad. I'm not babysitting. They're my kids. Like that's. ah You know what? I think that is so weird too. And it's such a common thing for people to say.
00:47:10
Speaker
and then it's also like, I know a few people, women who felt like weird leaving the kids with their dad. Like yeah you're married and they're worried they're not gonna, it's like, listen, if everybody, there's a dad, they're not gonna like let anything happen to your kids. They're their kids too. Right. right And kids need that time with just that. Yes. I mean, my dads are different. You gotta to let them like, I mean, don't be such a control freak.
00:47:42
Speaker
I mean, that's ridiculous. It's so weird. Like who cares if they do it different? That's the whole point that they yeah expose the kids to something different. Like yeah dads are important.
00:47:54
Speaker
All right, y'all what's for dinner. So I am thinking about, I know we've talked about this in the past, you guys, but I am thinking about, I went to shake shack and,
00:48:06
Speaker
And that's my guilty pleasure when I'm traveling. So when I was coming home from the airport, I needed- Oh my God, I almost went there. i went to Shake Shack and I love it. And i had the I love their burgers so much.
00:48:20
Speaker
So I've tried to make them at home, but it's not the same. And I don't know why I can't figure out how to make it. And then I'm wondering- Is it because you have to have like a special smasher?
00:48:32
Speaker
so I'm wondering what's for dinner for me is do I need to go out and get a special smasher so I can actually make a smash burger? Okay. So have you seen online, there's this woman, Nicole, she works for all recipes and she does these like copycat recipes. And she actually did a smash burger recently. And her secret is those big, huge metal spatulas. You got to have two of them.
00:49:05
Speaker
So you make your, oops, you make your patty in a ball and then you use one spatula and then the other, and you like really, really press it down with the onions on the griddle. So you have to like smash the burger with the onions on the griddle already.
00:49:21
Speaker
Follow Nicole. I'll find the link and send it. and i don't think I... Yeah, I don't think I totally understand what you're saying. Okay, well, I'll send you the video and we'll put it on the show notes. Like she's great.
00:49:34
Speaker
And if you guys have any tips outside of like what Linda just described, I would love to hear how you actually make a smash burger because I don't always want to go to smash burger to get a smash burger.
00:49:48
Speaker
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