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Pumpkins, Psychics, and Psychological Thrills and why Nancy hates Halloween.
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This week, the sisters take on Halloween—its ghosts, myths, and mind games.
Nancy opens with a heartfelt tribute to Diane Keaton before diving into her uneasy relationship with Halloween (blame childhood warnings about razor blades in candy). Kathy brings the science, debunking that urban legend and sharing what Psychology Today says about why we love to be scared. Lynne’s in-laws swear they’ve met a ghost, and Kathy shocks everyone by revealing she has a friend who’s a real-life medium. The conversation spirals into whether mediums are actually reading energy… or just reading people, and how the brain looks for patterns to make sense of the unknown.
Meanwhile, Nancy and Tim argue about The Diplomat, Kathy climbs Bowman’s Tower on a fall date with her husband, and the sisters share what’s trending in costumes this year—from K-pop Demon Hunters to LaBoobus.
It’s a perfect mix of science, superstition, and sisterly sass—with plenty of laughs along the way.
Links and more info at www.threelilfiishes.com/shownotes
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Transcript
Halloween Dislike and Party Enjoyment
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and I have never loved Halloween and I feel like, but I do love a party. So I don't know what that says about me. Am I secretly uptight? I don't know. But coming up with a costume, it's not my jam.
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I don't know what my deal is. You need to get a good smelling candle, like a cinnamon or pumpkin spice. Yeah. Do the pumpkin seeds. You make some aromatherapy. Okay, well, I'm not saying I don't like like fall and like apple picking and like Thanksgiving. i just am like, I don't want to get a, I don't want to be scared with the mask on. And, you know, don't know. Well, who's scared? no one Is someone scaring you?
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I don't know. Do you remember mom and dad back in the day? They're like, don't look at the candy. have to get into the candy. There's like, you know, razor blades needles like razor blades and needles and like, you know, don't do it. So your dislike for Halloween is a result of childhood trauma. Is that what I'm hearing?
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is that what you're trying to say? You're blaming mom and dad. ka Nancy, why don't you talk to Kathy's medium friend and try clear your aura of Welcome to Three Little Fishes.
Introduction: Three Sisters' Journey
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We're three sisters who grew up in the Midwest together, but have since spread across the country.
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i live in Los Angeles. I'm in Nashville. And I live in Philadelphia. We are all married with children, have all had careers, but now we stay at home with our families. Join us as we share secrets and stories about being women, wives, and mothers. We welcome you to laugh along, learn something new, reach out, and join our conversation.
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So let's jump in.
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What's up, fishes? What's up, fishes? Well, we just started and I saw that my two dogs were outside and our big dog was like tackling our puppy and the puppy was making a sound. So I was like, Teddy.
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Everybody okay here You caught me. Yeah, we're all good. It's just, you know, they're learning to play and sometimes they get a little too rough. The puppy gets too rough sometimes and the big dog gets too rough sometimes. So it's fine.
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We're learning our boundaries.
Remembering Diane Keaton
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Well, you guys, I just want to mention first off that Diane Keaton passed last week. And I just wanted to mention it. Hollywood lost a little bit of a gem.
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And I have a friend who is a teacher and she ah taught her her kids and And she said in real life, she was this lovely human. Like it wasn't an act in her opinion that she was just this lovely human being.
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and um so I just wanted to mention that. that Yeah, that's sad. She was a quirky little thing, but like super talented. I loved her and something's got to give.
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so so um I think the quirkiness makes her more lovable. I think we all need to be a little bit more quirky. Yeah. Yeah. Everything. Everybody says like she was a a sweet woman. So it's we lost her to sad.
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And I also liked her how she dressed. I loved her pops of like accessories, which I really admire, particularly her glasses and her jewelry. She always looked really good to me. A little a little edgy. Yeah.
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which I liked. Yeah.
Family Bonding Over Pumpkin Carving
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Kathy, you just had Trevor home from school, your' freshman in college. How was that? Were you heartbroken when you had to send him back? Yeah, it it pulled on my heartstrings for sure.
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But I enjoyed having him home. It was fun to just connect with him, figure out like how he's doing. His girlfriend came over. We, we The weather here is lovely. So we spent some time outside, took it out. So long distance.
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They're still figuring it out. They are. lovebirds. What is crazy to me too was i was going to get a pumpkin for him to carve and We usually have the pumpkin carving at our Halloween party, but I was going to have him do it early. And then my husband was like, no, don't, don't get him one. He doesn't need to do, he's not and interested in that.
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But it turned out he and I went shopping cause he needed some shoes and we were just together for the afternoon, which was fun. And, he We ended up stopping the grocery and they had all these pumpkins. And I said, do you want to get a pumpkin to carve? He's like, yeah, mom, I think I do.
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So he ended up. We got him a pumpkin and he made a Spartan pumpkin. It was so cute. Take that, Peter. know Trevor. Yeah, so it was fun.
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I love that. That's cute. Very nice.
Netflix's 'The Diplomat' and Political Humor
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All right, girls. I also wanted to tell you that The Diplomat just dropped on Netflix and Tim and I binged it. I just finished it last night.
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The whole thing, i mean, i like it for like a lot of different reasons, I think. I just find it a little, the humor in it is a little funny about the way she's like always a mess and her hair's a mess.
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her like Her double person yeah like her hair's like all a rat's nest in the back. And then I find it funny that Keri Russell makes fun of her hair, even though her hair looks just the same.
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Yeah, got Kate's character. the that wit The humor in it, I think, is hilarious. Yeah, it's very quick-witted. you know, I always, every episode I watch of this, because I think this is the third season that came out, but every time I watch an episode, I think, I am so glad i never got into politics.
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I just... it's It's so stressful and fast paced and I just am not quick witted enough it. You have to be on your toes. I mean, at all times and think about all these like scenarios and what if, what if, what if, what if. And what if, how is someone going to react and blah, blah, blah. Right. The whole thing.
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So Linda, I don't think that's true about you. You're very quick with You're very quick with your tongue. And sometimes I wish I could have that because when I'm in conflict or I need to say something, I'm like a deer in headlights. And then, you know, half an hour will pass by and I'll be like, that's what I should have said.
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Like, it's terrible. Right. I mean, Kathy, I think you're a little bit like that, too, where you just look at somebody, you're like, OK. And you give them like a death look and then you move away. Like, like what?
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um and i could't I wouldn't be a good diplomat because they'd be like... I wouldn't either. I would not either. She's giving me the evil eye. yeah So Tim and I did kind of get into it. Well, into it's a bit strong, but we kind of went back and forth because I don't want to give away too much if you haven't seen it, but Kate and Hal have a very um complicated and I would say almost unhealthy relationship.
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um And Tim's like, he's so mean. She's so mean to him. But...
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Okay, Tim is in my ear because he's hearing me talk, so he says that that's not what he said. Honey, what did you say?
00:06:56
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oh I stand corrected. He says she doesn't like him. don't think that's I think she does like him. don't think that's i i think i think producer Tim is wrong. She...
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She is exasperated with him regularly. but she's so invested in him and cares about him so much that she doesn't want him falling over. And she also, because they're both diplomats, doesn't want him blowing things up.
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But I think that they do have a deep affection for each other. Yeah, because she wants to be heard as well. Like her opinion matters. Yeah. They do have this arc of...
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complication that you know, they keep saying they're going to get divorced and they stay together and stuff happens. Yeah. They're codependent. They're codependent. I mean, is it a healthy relationship? I mean, it is in some ways because they have, they say what they feel in the moment and they also are very good at apologizing to one another.
00:07:59
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yeah But it's very antagonistic, which is uncomfortable for me. because The thing I want to say is the new boyfriend is super cute. So I do see why she likes him.
00:08:10
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Got to be careful not to give away too much info. um That's all I will say. yeah And he he made a good ah few good points that she reflected on, like, oh, maybe I was not treating my spouse in a good way.
00:08:26
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Yeah. So i appreciate that. I mean, let's be clear. He is no saint, and i to live with that would be hard. but Right. you would They're both hard to live with. Listen, it's a really good show. It makes you think you can't fall asleep watching this show. You actually have to engage your brain. um But I think it's a really smart show on on on Netflix.
00:08:49
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And um you guys should check it out if you're looking for a new show.
A Fall Date in New Hope, PA
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think it's good. Ladies, I went on my date with Peter. We finally, you know, I kind of arranged it and i said we wanted to do it in October because I knew the fall foliage would be like super great right now, which it was.
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And we ended up, what we did is we went to this town called New Hope, Pennsylvania, which is about an hour from where we live. So we drove out there and we went to, it's basically a state park that surrounds the town and It was, it came about during the Revolutionary War and George Washington crossed the Delaware River there.
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So they made a tower. They constructed a tower in remembrance of this historic event. So his troops crossed the river and they'd watch the enemies come across.
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So they built That's cool. It's really neat. I love that about Pennsylvania. You guys have so much history. It's so incredible. Well, they they call it the Bowman's Tower and It is like 125 feet high. So we had to climb and it's all made out of brick.
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And it's like a little winding staircase like that you have to climb up. It used to have an elevator, but it doesn't work. So literally at the top, I was like, oh I was so out of breath.
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And I was like, I am not in good shape because nope like there's a lot of people that could not do that. like trekco Well, 125 steps is a lot of steps, and I'm sure it's steep.
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Yeah, but up there at the top, you overlook like a 14-mile radius, so it was just gorgeous. so i i I have a vision of myself like going down those steps and like tumbling down. like head ah like I mean, you have to be careful. i mean Yeah. Yeah.
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But we um we had fun and there were a lot of families that were out there just enjoying the day because it was beautiful. And then we ended up going to the little town of New Hope, which is super cute.
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And we ended up um at this like restaurant and we just had to drink over the little river. So it was a really nice, a nice day, I guess.
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So did Peter enjoy it? Yeah, I think he did. Yeah. fun that's really nice good for you you did we haven't done ours well i want to hear about it so get on it okay so today we're going to talk about on the pod and ghost do you think they're real we're going to talk about halloween and what's for dinner But before we get into it, I just want to please but remind everybody to rate, review, send us a comment and invite your favorite fishes to jump in and join our conversation.
Belief in Ghosts: Family Stories
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Let's jump in. Ghosts, are they real?
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i mean, some people think they really are. have never had ghost experience. never had an experience. But my husband's family really believe in ghosts and they have had ghost experiences.
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Oh, what does that mean? like experience one little story I'll tell you is my in-laws live in Florida and they took over my, uh, Rich's grandparents place.
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And they had this, they have this curio cabinet with all of these like figurines in it or whatever. And one afternoon they heard music And, you know, it's just the two of them in this place and they heard music and they found the sound was coming from the curio cabinet that was locked.
00:12:44
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So they open it and one of the figurines was like a music box and it was going and they felt that it was her parents because it's their place kind of speaking to them and welcoming them and all the things. So.
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They all feel like sure everybody on that side of the family definitely feels that ghosts are real. um i feel like my oldest kind of feels that way too.
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um But I've never really had an experience like that. And I don't know. I'd like to, I mean, there's something and inside me that's like, it might be kind of fun if there was really ghosts or maybe somebody was kind of looking after you, but then it's also creepy.
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I don't know. I don't know. Like, you know, when we were, I was a teenager, we used to do like those seances where like you are like light up as a feather, like so you could like raise up your bread.
00:13:46
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Do yeah you all do that? Yeah. Oh yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah, we did. thought it Like it's sleepovers. One time. And I was like, yeah, what's happening?
00:13:58
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Right. I don't know. Your skinniest friend is floating in the air. Do you guys remember um mom and dad talking about Greta Alexander?
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oh yeah. Yes. So she, she was, mom was from a small town in Delavan, Illinois. And this woman, Greta Alexander lived there and she was a famous psychic and putting psychic in like air quotes.
00:14:24
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Yeah. yeah And, She like supposedly helped police solve crimes and found missing people. And she was just supposedly like the real deal.
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And I was researching her a little bit. They even took our dad, who but who is does not believe in psychics, but his grandmother, i think Greta Alexander had helped solve something in Tennessee.
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And that's where our great grandmother lived, which would have been his grandmother. And she was like, when I come up to visit you guys, I want to go see Greta Alexander and I want her to read my palm. And our grandmother was very old.
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And so she did. So when she came up to visit, dad took her to meet Greta Alexander and she, you know, had this palm, her palm read, and it was a lovely experience, I guess. And according to mom,
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She told dad things that she couldn't have possibly known. So i I don't know what that's all about. But I did do a little research on Greta. And we found out that she was struck by lightning when she was giving birth to her fifth child.
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Like lightning went through the window of her open window in her home and like lit the bed on fire, basically. Mm-hmm. Um, but she has a connection to, ah who does she have a connection to? So Greta had a connection to Ruth Warwick.
00:15:48
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who was a date who was a soap ah famous soap actress. And she was good friends with Debbie Reynolds. So Debbie Reynolds started getting readings from Greta Alexander on the phone.
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And then when she was in St. Louis or she was somewhere close enough, they invited Greta to come and give a big reading to a group of people and Carrie Fisher, who is Debbie Reynolds child.
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She was a teenager at the time and she read her po And I'm going to read what she wrote. So this was said, this is what she said about Carrie Fisher.
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You will be even more famous than your mother. i don't understand this, but I see stars, rockets and spaceships. It's just out of this world. A crown is being placed on your head.
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And I hear this incredible music that is shaking the walls. Yeah. The crowd laughed with the thoughts of Fisher becoming an astronaut. Instead, a few years later, Fisher would be cast as Princess Leia in Star Wars and a star was born. Wow. I mean, she was infamous in the central Illinois area. I think nationally, too. She was this ginormous woman with this like very big presence.
00:17:06
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And You know, I think some people really felt that she was the real deal. i mean, i never met her, but I know what she looks like because I remember seeing, like, articles and stuff like that because she was just so prevalent back then. Right. But, um I mean, I don't know.
The Curious Case of Psychic Greta Alexander
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people really feel there's something to it. have a friend who actually says that she's, like, a medium, like, she – is in that realm.
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And really, yeah. And she's like a good friend of mine. And I would say personally, like I have never had her talk with me about things going on in my life or anything like that.
00:17:52
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Cause I feel like it would be weird because we're such good friends, but she does have clients that she sees and tries to help them. And I don't know. I i think personally,
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I'm open to it. I don't know if 100% believe it, but I'm not saying I absolutely don't believe it. I just, I, ah you know, I'm still out there. Kathy, I'm shocked. I honestly am almost, I'm almost speechless to hear you talk this way because you are a science person.
00:18:25
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So I think that I, I almost like, I don't even know where to begin. Like, do I know this friend? Does this his friend read poems? Like, is she reading tea leaves? Like, I like what?
00:18:36
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I know. I can't. I'll have to ask her more about it. Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm kind of surprised too, Kathy. I thought you would be an absolute no about anything sort of like, I do believe that there's a bigger connection out there.
00:18:50
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So I don't know if that's like my faith or whatever. So Kathy, like talking about your friend, it's interesting. I think that I'm wondering, like I sit down and I talk to people and especially back in the day when I was working, it's like you're kind of playing detective a little bit when you're listening to people on their life story or they're listening to their troubles of like what's going on and you're kind of trying to piece together, putting together a puzzle to try to help them and searching for what they're needing or what's going well or what's not going well.
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And I'm wondering, is your friend doing more of the same or is she really saying, I can see the future or I can see something beyond what let's say a social worker or a therapist would be doing as they're talking one on one with somebody?
00:19:45
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um i would say it's probably a little bit of both. um i mean, I haven't really specifically got into the nitty gritty with her about this, but I think she does say that she does see some things.
00:20:02
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So I don't know if it's she does or just she has good intuition and she really can read people and connect with people and figure them out? I don't know. It's question.
00:20:14
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Because some of it is like, so some of what people are saying with like people who say they're clairvoyant or can see the future, there's like these these four things that they go by, like general statements, wild guesses, self-fulfilling prophecy, or rapidly altering the prophecies.
00:20:33
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So like, you know, general statements, just being general, throwing something out there, but like they could just be a wild guess. I'm just going to guess, you know, something silly. And then like a rapid alter prophecy, like, um you know, lots of people have back pain and a psychic says, oh, pick somebody out from the audience. Oh, I see that you have back pain.
00:20:54
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And the person's like, yes, I do have back pain. And it's something like, you know, people Lots of people suffer from back pain. Do you know what I mean? So it's an interest it's just all very interesting. like But I think she works more like holistically, I'm being honest, like more about like Physically, like the human body, like there's, you know, with acupuncture, there's like the Chinese medicine, there are points in your body. She feels like if you can connect with some of these points, you can get healing and things like this.
00:21:28
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Um, yeah. So that's more of like where she kind of, um, focuses on, but it's interesting to me. Cause I have had acupuncture before, like, um,
00:21:42
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when I was having trouble getting pregnant and I swear to God, it helped me. So I don't know. That's why I'm saying like, I'm not saying no to things specifically because I think.
00:21:55
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But I think there's something different about like someone who understands micro, you know, nuances in people's facial expressions or behaviors or stuff like that.
00:22:09
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And somebody who thinks that like ghosts are running around and haunting you and closing doors on you and making the room cold and making the room hot. And then also like with Greta, she did help find some missing people, i believe.
00:22:31
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So there was some thing like, substantial about whatever her gift was. Yeah, like how did she that? Like, I don't know that she saw ghosts, but did she have like some sort of like really deep understanding of humanity and she could articulate it in a meaningful way?
00:22:51
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Probably. have two parts to that. So she is, they did say that she did help a lot, but as I was looking into some of this research, That they said that she did get to overhear a lot of things and it could have just been she was very good at dissecting and putting things together, the pieces together. So yeah not saying that she wasn't an integral part of helping find somebody, but maybe she did it.
00:23:17
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by putting some other pieces of the puzzle that she saw already. i don't know. And then I would say, Kathy, I think that holistic and real medicine, I think there is a lot of overlap. I think your mind is super, super powerful.
00:23:31
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And I think if you think this is helping you, if you are if you think that something you're doing is helping then I think there's real value that your brain, there's something in your brain that triggers it and says, yes, I am feeling better.
00:23:45
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So I think it could be a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B in those situations, right? agree. I think so. But girls, I want to know, do you believe in ghosts?
00:23:56
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Like a ghost, like Casper. No, don't. Do believe in a ghost? That's what I want to hear. I don't think so. I don't think so. Like a part of me is like, it would be kind of cool to feel like that is happening, but also creepy at the same time.
00:24:11
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yeah Right. do you know, you guys know the show Through the Wormhole? I actually did watch that a couple of times. I don't know what this is. Yeah. So like I went back through and if there was a psychologist from the University of Texas. Her name is Jennifer Winston.
00:24:27
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And she did a study. Um, and part of her study was she was doing experiments on people and she was trying to decide like how the brain kind of works, um, and talking about tarot cards and, you know, talking about ghosts and images that you might see.
00:24:47
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And one of the experiments she did is that she, um, set people up and some people, um they would sit in front of these TV and it would be static snowy TV.
00:25:00
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There's nothing there. She didn't put an image on it. It was just literally, it's like you turn on your TV and it was static and nothing. And she would say to people, okay, is there something there or is there not something there? And, um,
00:25:15
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Some people would say that there's something there and then she would ask to say, what do you see? and she said it was very interesting because the people that saw that there was something there, it was like through the day, they had no control over anything going on with their experiments. And you could see by the time they sat down to look at this TV, they were very frustrated.
00:25:37
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and she said all those people saw something on the static. And the people who didn't have the frustrating experience before they looked at the static TV saw nothing.
00:25:48
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So she was saying that your brain is trying to make sense of things when you feel like you don't have any control. So she so the more the less control you have, the more you're trying to connect with some idea to understand like what's going on around you. Hmm.
00:26:06
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I thought that was kind of interesting. That's interesting, yeah. If you're looking at that screen all day, then you see things because you're like, get me out of here.
00:26:17
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Well, there has to be a purpose, right? What's the reason I'm looking at the screen? Of course, there has to be something at the screen I'm looking at. Put me in this room and not see that there's something here. But I think the idea of like, we sometimes our brains just want to find a way to make those connections.
00:26:33
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And it's simply as just as we're always talking about, our brains are always trying to connect. Yeah. Yeah. Right. yeah That's kind of what that's kind of what she's saying. It's an interesting idea. Right. Like, well, it's always fun to this time of year, like Halloween's coming up in a couple of weeks. Yeah. It's like all the like scary stories are coming out, all the scary movies, the TV shows. Everybody's starting to think about like their costumes and ghost stories are happening and fire pits and all that stuff. So it's such a
00:27:07
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It's such a time of year that everybody starts thinking about ghosts and all the goblins and stuff like that. So it is sort of interesting to think about, like, you're right. yeah Everybody's always trying to make sense of the world.
00:27:20
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Or you're trying to, like, escape. Like escape your life a little bit. like You're looking for something interesting or something to try to explain whatever's happening. Or you're trying to give yourself like, I mean, back in the day in high school, i only did this maybe a couple times, but around this time of year, we would go to like graveyards out in the country because...
00:27:46
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You we lived in central Illinois. and So we lived in a city, but around the city was farmland and there was like nothing, but there was a lot of really old graveyards and we would go and like scare ourselves by walking around a graveyard.
00:28:01
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You did? Yes. And old barns. We would go to old barns and like just stomp around. Like, what? They were abandoned by like a graveyard or something. So I just think you know it's just that time of year where maybe sometimes people think about these things because they are trying to connect. like
00:28:22
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it's Have some fun. Stimulate yourself. Or to try to make sense of stuff. i don't know. Kathy, did you go to graveyards?
Why Do People Enjoy Horror?
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Yeah, I think I have gone to a graveyard before.
00:28:34
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i think, you know, we're talking about kind of the psychology of like our brain and why people like, like scary things like ghosts and Halloween. And there was an article I read from psychology today that there was a man, um, from Penn state, the psychology department that did re, um,
00:28:58
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research about why people like horror to watch horror films like during Halloween, because they scare you and whatever. And they, they came to the conclusion from this study that the people that like to watch like horror films, because it causes an adrenaline rush in you because you're scared, know, it raises your heart rate, you get out of breath, like all of it, even, you know, at The graveyards, like anything that scares you causes this adrenaline rush, like a flight or flight response.
00:29:34
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And he was just saying that people that are junkies that like these kinds of things are more resilient than people that don't because they like get exposure to it more often.
00:29:51
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It's kind of like a desensitization. Yeah. And it, well, because you're in a controlled environment, so you know, nothing bad's going to happen to you, but you're getting chronic exposure to it. So you're getting kind of used to it.
00:30:07
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And then you're like, oh, it's something when it really happens, you're not like so shocked by it. And I'm like, oh that is interesting. Cause those people fared better during COVID-19 than people that never, you know, experienced these things.
00:30:24
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So I thought that was very interesting. Like, okay. So what I'm hearing is you're calling me some sort of a junkie. Well, their brain, you're just, you get the euphoria. mean I mean, I'm sorry. It's like the high of it, you know?
00:30:39
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And there are some people that experience more than others. I don't like this. Also, I find this also fascinating though, but you love Halloween. Yeah. So I'm not saying I love being scared. I do love Halloween, but I'm just saying that that was like one reason that that article was talking about anxiety and Halloween, the whole thing. But I do love Halloween. I think because Linda was saying like, it's all about the connection with people. I think is why I like it.
00:31:12
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You know, you see people in your neighborhood, friends, maybe that you hadn't connected into a while, or it's like a big social party to me. That's why I think I like it. But it's also interesting, like not I feel like I'm sure you think I'm picking on you, but like, and Linda too, you guys dress up for Halloween and I have never loved dressing up for Halloween.
00:31:34
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And I feel like, but I do love a party. So I don't know what that says about me. Am i secretly uptight? I don't know. But like, it's like, I don't, coming up with a costume and having to like do it, it's not my jam. But you guys love to get in a costume and vacate your normal life.
00:31:51
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Yeah. I mean, I, I don't know if, I mean, i've never liked the sexy nurse or something that my husband is like, this year I'm a ladybug, which, you know, is not that exciting.
00:32:07
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Peter, I'm a sexy, I'm a sexy ladybug. Come get it. I mean, I like Halloween, not for dressing up. It's more to me, like it's an easy holiday.
00:32:17
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You know, it's starting the winter season. i don't have to get matching pajamas. I don't have to make a big, huge meal. I don't have to buy any gifts. I don't have to like, you know, dress the whole house. It's like...
00:32:32
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It's an easy holiday. Yeah, it's fun. And there's candy. Like, there's nothing not to like. Even if you don't want to dress up and you don't want to come up with costume, it's easy to come up with something simple, even at your house. And with the internet now, you can do like a simple homemade gift or costume. It's just an easy social holiday. actually am shocked, Nancy, that you don't like it. I really am shocked. If I live by you- know. You're so I know you would get into it more. Why are you fun?
00:32:58
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No, I typically have fun. I would make you. i would make you get into it. You would? what What would you make me, like, dress as? Because you would have a party. yeah you have to be come over in costume, first of all.
00:33:11
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Are you going to kick me out if I just wear little cat ears and a tail? That's a costume. Well, I mean, that is dressing up. It's a pathetic costume, but it's a costume.
00:33:21
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Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what my deal is. i don't know. don't know what it is. i just have never gotten into it. And I think I just I don't know what my problem is. I think that Tim also thinks what's wrong with you because you are fun, but I just don't love it.
00:33:38
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So I find it. I don't know what my problem is. I guess I need to do some deep dive on myself. Like you need to get a good smelling candle like a cinnamon or pumpkin spice. Yeah. Do the pumpkin seeds. You make some aromatherapy.
00:33:52
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okay, well, I'm not saying I don't like fall and like apple picking and like Thanksgiving. I just am like, I don't want to get a i don't want to be scared with a mask on. and you know, don't Well, who's scared? no what Is someone scaring you?
00:34:07
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don't know. Do you remember mom and dad back in the day? They're like, don't look at the candy. have to get into the candy. There's like, you know, razor blade like razor blades and needles and like, you know, don't do it. So your dislike for Halloween is a result of childhood trauma. Is that what I'm hearing?
00:34:28
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that what you're trying to say? You're blaming mom and dad. Yeah. Nancy, why don't you talk to Kathy's medium friend and try and clear your aura of all the negativity?
00:34:39
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Well, you know, that myth of like that candy is not, well, they say it's not true because there was a guy from the University of Delaware did a study and he found that there there's never been a child that got poisoned except on purpose by their parent.
00:34:57
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It's an urban legend. The biggest fear is kids get hit by a car. That's real. Yeah. Getting hit by a car is real. Yeah. um Maybe getting into fist fight over like your favorite candy, but...
00:35:13
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Kathy, I love that you always know the research and you always can like be like, you're talking nonsense, but I don't always want to listen to the research even though I think it's super important. I looked it up because...
00:35:24
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I mean, that was a real thing with mom and dad. They're like, we have to go through all your candy and make sure there's nothing in here that has ah you know a pin or a razor blade. We're like, yeah what? yeah i was a real Yeah, they were really ah like uptight is a nice way to say it. Well, I mean, to defend them, we did have that Tylenol cyanide raisining thing happen when we were...
00:35:52
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in Yeah, in the Those formidable like Halloween years. What are you talking about? Tylenol and cyanide. What? Oh, there was... Yeah, that was a whole thing. Somebody poisoned... The reason we have like safety caps on...
00:36:07
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medicine now is because the 80s somebody poisoned Tylenol and people ate it and died. There were like, I think seven people Back in the day, they didn't have any like foil over the tops or no safety caps. It was just like- Is that real? was Is that really real?
00:36:24
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Yes. Yes. This is real. We're- Did you grow up under a rock? Like, what's happening here? I don't know. You know about Greta Alexander, but you can't remember if people died?
00:36:37
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Well, yes. That's what I remember. I remember the razor blades and Greta. Because mom's like, you know, Greta is from Delavan. That's my hometown. If you're going to go out and celebrate Halloween, what do what what's everybody wearing this year?
00:36:52
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Like, what's the hot stuff? Like, I don't have little kids anymore. um all of ours are gone. So I don't even know what's happening anymore. Like what people dress as? I can tell you one costume for sure is this K-pop Demon Hunters is huge. Oh yeah. K-pop. And I was actually about this at the grocery yesterday, standing in line to re return something from Amazon. And this woman behind me was talking that she had gotten a costume for her granddaughter and it didn't fit. She was trying to like,
00:37:27
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get it returned so she could get a new um k-pop costume oh my gosh yeah this is like an demon hunters right the demon hunters yeah it's on netflix right and it's a cartoon and these are like pop singers it's an anime and these are pop singers and they eat noodles to gain their strength to go fight these demons and And like in real life, there was like this- The demons are a boy band, right? Yeah.
00:37:55
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Yeah. And in real life, there was doing, people were doing this noodle challenge where they would get these super hot like ramen noodles and they would try to eat it super fast. like Like these cartoons.
00:38:07
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And people are showing up in the ER with burns and like, it's crazy to me. It's like, it's a cartoon, people. You're like, it's a cartoon. Right. It's anime. It's not a cartoon. Right.
00:38:19
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Well, isn't it the same? Like, it's like drawings that are coming to life. I mean, I think the animation the difference is they look more like cartoons are kind of like not real looking, but like anime to me looks like more authentic. Like it's weird looking, but you could tell it's a drawing, but don't Right.
00:38:44
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Anyway, it's
LeBubu Costume Trend Among Kids
00:38:45
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anime. Kathy, are the boo-boos? Are people dressing up as a la boo-boo? Yes. So the boo-boos are huge. Huge. um But they're hard to get.
00:38:55
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The costume or the la boo-boos? The costumes are the la boo-boos? Well, boo-boos in general, the real thing is hard to Like anything. boo-boo. Yeah.
00:39:07
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I think LeBuboos are... The pressure is on parents. Like asked my son, my youngest son about it because I didn't really know that much about LeBubo and he looked at me like I was so dumb.
00:39:18
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He was like, of course I know a LeBubo. LeBron James' meme is a LeBubo. i was like, okay. okay so Well, I put you guys on the Lububu hunt. I had you sign up for the Pop Mart.
00:39:34
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And Linda is the only one who got an email. And I actually think I have a Lububu coming for my 10-year-old. That's awesome. So I can't wait for it to get here. But I mentioned it to Riley. And he goes, yeah, mom, the boo-boos are so hot right now. He's like, I actually could get you one through school.
00:39:51
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I'm like, what? I'm like, you know somebody who's selling the boo-boos, like the real ones? He's like, yeah. He's like, theyre they sell them for like 50 bucks. Oh, they're like trying to make a profit? Like a retail market at high school.
00:40:03
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So I told him like, OK, well, like, see if you can find one. And if it's real, maybe I'll get another one. But I had no idea that he could be my dealer. wow You know, it's so funny too. When I went to this new hope, when when Peter and I went on our date the other day, there was a La Boo Boo sign in someone's yard. And I was like, Peter, did you just see that?
00:40:23
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He was like, what are you talking about? was like, that's a La Boo Boo. He's like, have you been drinking? What are you talking about? know.
00:40:36
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You're talking nonsense. This should be your costume. You should get Peter to dress up as your labubu. oh geez.
00:40:44
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I bet he would do it, too. He does a lot of things for you if you just ask real nice. He never tells Kathy no. That's so funny. He never tells Kathy no. I mean, you could ask him to dress up as like a weird bunny labubu face and he'd be like, okay.
00:41:02
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Give him bunny ears and call it a day. yeah Kathy, did you find out if Zeman um zombies from Disney, are they a hot costume? Johanna's going as a zombie hunter from the Disney show she's going as a She's going as a day hunter.
00:41:21
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oh okay. Okay. ah That's fun. So the K-pop demon hunter so So it's kind of similar to like all. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Yep.
00:41:33
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yeah I think another costume that I think could be popular, too, is Wicked. like oh yeah. Like, Linda. Girls, I am so excited to see Wicked, too. i love Wicked.
00:41:45
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i thought it was so... I love the play, but I love the movie. I thought it was so well done. And Johanna says her birthday's in November, and her big birthday wish is to see Wicked, too. she get it for her.
00:41:58
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I'm like, we can see it. Don't you worry. I'm all about it. And I'm going with you. and And Riley and Tim are going with us too. And I told Riley and he was like, what are you talking about?
00:42:08
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Yeah. And I'm like, you're going I'm like, you're going to love it. He's like, no, I'm not. Yeah. You know, it's so funny. I do like musicals, but my people don't really like musicals. Like every time we watch them, they're like, oh my God. Yeah. I like them too.
00:42:25
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You know, maybe Bob Dylan. That could be a big one for the guys. Like the teenage guys. Yeah. Or even Bruce Springsteen, right? Because his new biopic's out, and which I actually want to see.
00:42:40
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hate him. you hate but You hate Bruce Springsteen? Who hates the boss? Why would you hate the boss? I just, I find him distasteful. I don't know. Oh, that's why I find that fascinating. Yeah. I don't love him.
00:42:56
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don't like his raspy voice. just doesn't do anything for me. I have a couple of weird things like that too. Like I don't like, um, the woman from Fleetwood Mac.
00:43:09
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I don't like her voice. ah Stevie Nicks. Yeah. I don't like Stevie Nicks. hate her voice. they Oh my God. It's like nails on a chalkboard to me. I instantly turn the radio. I can't stand her voice. And I can't stand that guy from the Smashing Pumpkins, the bald guy, the lead singer. Yeah. is Billy Corrigan. Billy Corrigan. That's who it is. Are you serious? I can't stand his voice.
00:43:37
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My husband doesnt loves the Smashing Pumpkins. And every time I have to hear that guy's voice, I'm like, oh, my God, shush. I don't know what it is, but there's a few people that I just, I have no interest in listening to them. I turn the station.
00:43:52
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Oh, my God. That's fascinating. Yeah. I don't like it. And I have feelings about it. i mean, you really you really do. And i I think I'm just, again, you sometimes shock me. Kathy, you like Stevie Nicks, don't you?
00:44:06
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do. Yeah. I mean, she's a talent, but I think her voice is grating. i mean, it's her opinion. she Thank you, Kathy. Welcome.
00:44:17
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See what mean? You're always there, Kathy. I really appreciate it. Okay, so Kathy, this year you've decided to have your Halloween party. You were deciding whether you weren't going to do it, you were going to do it, you're missing your two boys at our college. But what I've learned about you is you really like the party. You want to have the Halloween party, which kind of moves us into what's for dinner.
00:44:40
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Yes, so we are going to have the Halloween party. um we felt like it has kind of become a tradition. And then my son Trevor that was home from college, he's because I said, do you think we should still carve the pumpkins too?
00:44:54
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He's like, of course, mom, you should do it. I'm like, okay. yeah So um and it's Friday night this year. you So it's like, why not have it? Why not have the you carve the do you carve the pumpkins at your Halloween party?
00:45:09
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Yes. You do. Normally the kids bring their own pumpkins and we carve them usually in my kitchen, on my kitchen table. I will have them do it outside if it's nice, but like last year it wasn't nice. So yeah, we'll have to see. that fun And then the kids usually go on their way and do something and then it becomes an adult party.
00:45:32
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That's quite the cleanup. That's ambitious for you. ah Yeah. Good for you. it's how I think I'm shocked to learn. it See, this is what I mean. You vacate your life for Halloween, which is so funny. like Like normally you would be like, this is too much, but you're like, no, bring it. I want all the seeds, all the slime.
00:45:50
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Like I want all of it. I wrap my table so they can't hurt it. And then I'm like, go for it. And you know, when you have a party, the floor gets kind of gross anyway. So it doesn't even matter if there's slime on the floor. Cause you have to pop the floor anyway.
00:46:03
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Well, she has a dog, so Millie can just eat – she can eat the innards of the pumpkins. Ew. No. Well, you know, the fun thing about Halloween, too, is, like, there's all these, like, cute little foods you can do, like a little veggie tray that looks like a ghost or a goblin with all the different colors of veggies or – Yeah, I think I'm going to try that. You know, the hot dogs that are wrapped in, like, the puff pastry that looks like a mummy or – green macaroni and cheese. You could put like eyeballs in there are something. So green, how would you make green macaroni and cheese? How would you make green macaroni and cheese, Nancy? That's so How would you do it?
00:46:43
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I'm not doing that. I'm not putting food coloring in that. That's so not right. Do you not put food coloring in your toilets and in your milk for St. Patrick's day? I don't eat it. Oh, do you do that?
00:46:55
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That's so funny. do you put them in the toilet? Yes, you do. I do. I only put green in the toilet for say Like, yeah, for the, yeah, for the. I have never done this.
00:47:07
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Never done this. Yeah, let me find the word for the leprechaun. The leprechaun makes mischief in the toilet and then you just flush it. Everywhere, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh. So we will post in the show notes, if anybody is interested, a spaghetti recipe. It's just basically spaghetti aioli that you put in little circles and in the circle you put a little mini ball of mozzarella cheese that you've kind of hollowed out with like a little bit of olive oil and a cut piece of black olive and it looks like eyeballs and you just kind of put it in the little nest of circled spaghetti. Yeah, that's very fun. And you put that out.
00:47:47
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So, yeah. It's easy peasy. It's kind of fun looking and it's not expensive because it's spaghetti. And, you know, so go for it and have fun.
00:47:59
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Serve your little monsters eyeballs. You should make that. Johanna would love it. She probably would. Yeah, it's fun. She probably would Do something fun, Nancy, for Halloween. Like just people on stage. Let's have some fun, Nance. Listen, I make it fun here, but it's just not my favorite. But I would say that my people here think it's fun.
00:48:21
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I go out and I trick or treat. I put on a and put on the cat ears. Okay. Do you do like whiskers at least and a little nose? Let me step it up a notch, just a notch.
00:48:31
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Okay. This year. Okay. Add a tail. Only if Tim dresses up and like is the only way I will do it. All right. Let us know. You'll have to let us know. Good luck with that.
00:48:44
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00:48:55
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00:49:12
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