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366 — Diddy Toast It?
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Ty & Eric discuss Diddy’s allegations, including how Mr. Combs got so rich, the size of his strap collection, who would get Diddy wacked, and how to judge philanthropy vs. evil deeds. They also discuss getting caught in a rideshare high speed chase, Starbucks’s fall from grace, the trauma of becoming a prison guard, staying loyal to the format, whether lettuce wraps are okay, and a critical dissection of Vancouver mom n’ pop shop, Vennie’s Subs.
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Introduction and Taxi Ride Adventure
00:00:06
Speaker
ah The familiar chime of the Think Fresh podcast intro. Ty and Eric are your hosts once again. Thank you for joining us on this splendid day. Welcome sailors to the island of Think Fresh. Is that sort a Caribbean voice?
00:00:25
Speaker
I don't know, you telling me? I don't know. I don't know either. Oh dude, I heard a crazy story about a Caribbean guy the other day. Okay. um My friend's roommate was trained to take a taxi from Toronto to Montreal.
00:00:41
Speaker
Oh, shit. Yeah, a long taxi ride, right? How long is the drive? Is the drive? I think it's like two or three hours, but he didn't book with Blue Chip, Uber, or even Orange trip Chip Lift. He used a weird third-party ride booking service called... Pink Chip. a Pink Chip. The ride booking service there was called paparight Papa Papa Ride? Papa Ride. Isn't that awesome? I've never heard of this. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. So pop a ride like P-O-P or papa as in daddy. I never clarified. I think it's like daddy ride. Like picked up by a father. No, in the words of P Diddy, it's like, yeah, daddy. I don't know. There's a clip of him saying that, I promise.
00:01:27
Speaker
So, he books it with a dot-a ride and he gets in the cab and the driver's this Caribbean dude. And they start the journey. Was it Terry? Real, think fresh heads will know. Yeah, for sure. Guys like Wogwon. No, he didn't say that. I'm leaning into stereotypes a little too much now.
00:01:47
Speaker
Anyways gone they're about halfway to Quebec and then sirens come on behind them because It gets the guys speeding. He's only over or something. He's pulled over Well, no, the sirens come on behind him. And then the guy, the driver- Wait, can I clarify what sirens you're talking about? Was it like a wee-oo wee-oo? Or was it a boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing boing hell yeah lama out but po
00:02:20
Speaker
I actually think I have that soundboard pulled up, but I'm not gonna do it right now. um Where was I, Eric? So police sirens behind them, they got the 12 in French, that French, I think it's the news.
00:02:36
Speaker
And instead of pulling over, my guy, the papa rider, big daddy, he, Sean Daddy, he floors it, he starts booking it, and he turns to my friend and the passenger and it says,
00:02:49
Speaker
Do you trust me? Wait, what? Yeah, the guy's like, I don't know. Like, should we pull over? And he says, no, ill like I can lose them. like Oh, no, I'll lose them. I mean, I guess he played a lot of GTA. I don't know. That's scary. So they obviously, like, this guy's in like a Hyundai Elantra or something and the police are all in chargers. So like, it doesn't matter how fast they're ripping down the highway. Yeah, they catch up. They're on all sides. There's three cops now, three vehicles.
00:03:16
Speaker
Yeah, the three-star wanted level exactly literally high-speed chase This went out for about 10 minutes before the Caribbean guy driving he gives up need like pulls over and then when the cops come up they obviously like their guns out because they're like this is crazy and And they're like, Joe, give us your license. We need identification. My friend has to give him the license, obviously, too, because they think they're in cahoots. He, for some reason, chose to sit in the driver's seat of the Papa ride rather than being a normal passenger and sit in the back seat. You mean the passenger? Yeah, the passenger. Okay, I think your friend's driving. They're starting a driver's seat. Yes, he deserves to have his license taken. Absolutely. They did a little switcheroo.
00:03:57
Speaker
And
Eric's Police Encounter Story
00:03:58
Speaker
what the the guy does is he pulls out his Caribbean license and he's like, this is all I have for a license. And you're like, ah, okay, we'll try to scan it or whatever to identify this dude. It's just a pineapple. As soon as the police officers walk away, the the driver pulls out of his wallet a regular Canadian driver's license and shows it to my friend and like laughs. He's like, I have one. I just don't want them to know who I am.
00:04:26
Speaker
What the fuck? As if, like, not giving him that will keep him out of trouble. Doesn't make any sense. Yeah, you can't get in trouble if they don't know who you are. Exactly. Stay anonymous, like, Ty and Eric. I think about this more than I should. But, like, say you get in trouble and you just, like, legitimately don't have your ID. What happens to you? I guess you just get arrested. I guess you just get arrested until they run your fingers or something. But what if you, like, say you, like, ran a stop sign on a bike.
00:04:53
Speaker
that I doubt able to pull you over for that but say they ask you like hey what's going on like can I see your ID they all start off so I don't have one like they're not gonna arrest you so are they just gonna let you go it's not worth arresting somebody for that right maybe it's more of a uh based on trust at that point like we trust you're gonna give me the information of who you are and that's why if I that ever happens to me Eric I'm giving your information because you you own a bike and Yeah, my first name is ThinkFreshLP. That's the first name for our Gmail account, too. Exactly, concierge. First name,
Cultural Reflections: Police and Fast Food
00:05:27
Speaker
concierge. Man, I had to give my information to a police officer once. Not from a car, but from... I was a pedestrian. What happened?
00:05:37
Speaker
Well, I was walking to my friend's house, this was in high school, and there was a drive-by shooting like maybe an hour before or a couple of hours before. This is a strange thing to happen in Langley, but it was gang related. Yeah, yeah. Gang gang.
00:05:52
Speaker
Cops just stopped me while I was walking on the sidewalk like, hey, what's your name, blah, blah. I just gave them my info. Oh shit, they thought you were in the gang, bro. Not really. They were just like, why is this bald headed dude walking around? Let's just you know get his info just in case. I don't really know. Collecting data. Yeah, they they're paid hourly. So they're just stopping random civilians for information, I guess. I would think that cops are probably paid hourly, aren't they? like I don't know. I really don't know.
00:06:22
Speaker
That's why maybe they go to Subway because they're like, you and I share a pay schedule. We're both putting our hours in together. I got a tight 30 for my lunch break. Do you know what that's like, Ty? Do you know what that's like to have a 30 minute lunch break? I can't imagine. I could never do it. I dine the Italian way. It takes me one to four hours to finish a meal. Two hours, two glasses of wine. I am not a scarper. I don't scarf it down.
00:06:48
Speaker
Yeah, me neither. And that's why it was really hard for me to have a 30-minute lunch break. This was like the hardest thing growing up as a... As a youth. As a young youth in a, you know, pretty nice neighborhood, I would say. um I would have to, because I worked a frontline worker job, I would steal the manager's cell phone, isn which wasn't their real cell phone, it was like the work cell phone.
00:07:13
Speaker
and you could punch in and punch out on that. So I would bring that with me to Starbucks and punch in on my lunch break while I'm there and punch out 30 minutes later, stay there for another five to 10 minutes. That's a quick way to get a 40 minute lunch break. Dude, you've been stealing company time your whole life then. Dude, I'm no i'm not new to this bro. That's pretty cool. So you use the phone, you punch it out, then you like swipe over to Flappy Bird for 30 minutes and then swipe back.
00:07:41
Speaker
No, these are the days where you would have a cinnamon twist from Starbucks. do you Remember those days? That's a long time ago. Yeah, I know. That's when back when Starbucks didn't was still felt like an actual coffee shop and not like, I don't know, Starbucks feels like a they ah robot.
00:07:59
Speaker
I don't even know how to describe it. It just feels like an airport company now. Like, it feels like
Diddy Combs and Media Speculations
00:08:03
Speaker
they should be in airports only. Exclusively airports. Yeah, it does. You're paying airport prices at every location. Isn't that crazy? That's crazy. For the quality you get, you are paying airport prices. You're paying airport prices. You're like a shitty coffee and a shitty bagel. Wow.
00:08:19
Speaker
um Anyways, how the story ends with my friend that we can circle back. Okay. After he gives the license and they bring it back their cops are a little upset with this dude because they can't identify him and What happens is the driver just opens the door and runs. No. Yeah, he just booked it. Did he get popped? Pop up the ride?
00:08:41
Speaker
they call plot macr dragon dead No, dude, but he gets chased and he gets tackled ands arrested and mean no he And then obviously my friend gets arrested too, cause like probably in cahoots.
00:08:57
Speaker
So is this vehicle marked in any way? Like, does it say Poppy Riding on it somewhere? Do you think Popper Ride is sending every driver a vinyl to put on the side of the door? I doubt it. I think this is an anonymous vehicle. Because what happened is my friend had to show all the receipts of like, it showed the guy's profile on the app, just to like convince them that he's not in cahoots with the dude. Wow. Yeah, and eventually he was let go. But who knows what happened to our Caribbean friend.
00:09:26
Speaker
Imagine this happens to you like, two in the morning, you you're coming from the club, you're not even like, able to convince a police officer anything because you're fucked up. yeah Like, look, I paid for this ride. Like, yeah buddy, sure. This is my biggest fear, because like, I drink like, ah one million beers, and then I, one, cannot be accountable for anything I say, and two, I'm probably not gonna see the truth. And i i don't I don't think I should be around police officers in that situation. dude i would never be around police officers anyway that's true you hang out with the thugs that's true speaking of thugs i i think i found the ditty clip that i wanted to show you okay let's let's hear it okay ready i like where you like this daddy daddy i like the way you oh scrambling this scrap things oh shit i gotta like that
00:10:13
Speaker
like i mean you laugh Is that the audio clip from the Breakfast Club? Yes. Yeah, yeah, totally. Charlamagne the God has just got such a blank stare during that entire scene. So... Okay, backtrack here. As Mr... Mr. Combs. Mr. Combs. Sean Diddy Combs. Talking about how he likes that. To who knows who. He was on another podcast, which is funny. Like... It was an El Meadow. Yeah, it's a...
00:10:45
Speaker
Radio show is clipping from a podcast. Drink Champs, it's called. Yay was on it. Drink Champs? Yeah. Okay, if we're gonna talk another about another podcast called Drink Champs, I'm gonna have to crack up here for this. Hell yeah, dude. You wanna crack one? Hell yeah, dude. Sorry, breadheads, but if we're gonna talk about Sean Combs right now, we're gonna need a little a little little encouragement
00:11:17
Speaker
This is a honeycomb amber ale. Honeycombs. Honey That's so cool. Damn, I'm wiping my hands on this pillow. Not very nice of me, but whatever. na Nasty. Okay, so but what is going on here, dude? this this This thing has been happening for like a week. Sean's arrested. I like to call him Sean.
00:11:39
Speaker
That is his name, his government name. His government name. Sean's in the clink. More and more information every single day is coming out. I just found out that Justin Bieber was at a naked party with him when he was a minor. We like to call those freak-offs in the industry. Freak-offs? Yep. Oh, wow. I'm learning something new every day with us, dude. I think he calls for that, dude. I don't understand what's going on here. I know he's rich. I know he's rich. I know he's freaky.
00:12:08
Speaker
and I know the only person that's ever talked about Sean John's clothing line is Diddy himself in yay. That's it. I used to have a pair of jeans. You did not. Yep. Oh shit. Yeah, dude. This is like 10-15 years ago. Is Sean John expensive? I think so. It was a hand-me-down. I would never pay for something like that. If it was years ago, how did you obtain it? Because grail probably didn't exist back then.
00:12:33
Speaker
It was a hand-me-down from one of my sister's partners, if I'm being 100% honest. That's cool. A family of hype beasts. I know. I got a lot of g grails from him. That's awesome. The identity forming years. 100%. I think he... Ah, no.
00:12:52
Speaker
Someone else put me onto to Metallica, but he gave me a Metallica shirt, which was cool. Cool, cool, cool. Yeah, my mom threw it out. No way, she said she doesn't want Sidder's music in this good Christian household. It wasn't even the music, it was the shirt, because it said kill them all. So I think that was the aggressive style. Metal T's are so funny, it'll just be like a skeleton fucking another skeleton or something, you know? It's crazy shit. Yeah, skull fucking bringing that to a new level.
00:13:20
Speaker
come and Uh, little known to people, Sean Diddy Combs is the co-owner of Siroc. Not anymore. He's out? He's out of the company? Tyler, I know too much about this guy. Yeah. So, um, I don't think this was long ago.
00:13:42
Speaker
He said like two sips of his new beer. Fuck. New beer quotes. Yeah. In quotes. Um, What was I saying? Yeah, Siroc. This guy was a co-owner and he recently, I guess like was forced out or sold his shares or something like that, sold his stake in a company. um I don't know if like who forced out who, if it was like by choice or the other owners of Siroc was like, yo, we need to get that freaky shit away from us. This was before all the news broke.
00:14:13
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, they probably knew. They probably are like, we got to get away from this guy. He's talking sick. And so the theory is that Serac was a really powerful company and they were protecting him in the media for a long time before this stuff came out. And now that he's out of the company, they um decided to like stop protecting him, obviously. We don't need to protect him anymore. They turn their back on Diddy Combs. That's right. So that's why the media has also turned on him. Right. So you're saying, oh, wow, seriously. And, potentially, all this is coming to light now because we don't have the big pockets of Siroc. That's their pockets. Their pockets. Protecting big combs. Okay, this is crazy if true. So you're saying that Siroc's been lobbying the media for years to protect Diddy. Allegedly. Because they don't want to go down with him.
00:15:00
Speaker
Allegedly and um, I think what really sealed the deal was Did he actually won a case against Serac for like racism or something? Whoa something crazy. So he won like a billion dollars from that Shit, so yeah, he so his free coughs are funded by Serac He's Serac hard, you know, he's a Moment of silence here just appreciate that joke
00:15:30
Speaker
Wow So okay He's got a thousand bottles of lube in the house a thousand bottles of siroc in the house a billion dollars from this vodka company Mm-hmm, and it's only like I get that siroc is expensive vodka But I've always thought of it as like meme vodka in a way Yeah, like the pineapple one in particular in particular. Yeah, like struck always sponsors these like kitschy like Like faux luxury events like it'll be like a rooftop pool bar. We'll be have like a Surat cabana, you know It's never in Vegas exactly. Yeah, like Grey Goose wouldn't be caught dead there. Mm-hmm So yeah, it seems like a fake luxury liquor brand. Mm-hmm where it's like the Grey Goose is the
00:16:15
Speaker
I don't know, the Hennessy's, you know, those those ones are like sponsoring like real sporting events and like parties or whatever. Serac is just like, I don't know. You never catch Serac at Wimbledon, you know? Serac is only at Cirque du Soleil. So it kind of makes sense that it would he would get involved with it for that reason. Maybe he's the reason the brand ended up in that direction.
00:16:42
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. Funding his lifestyle? Why not? He's freaky, but now they're freaky. We'll have freak offs too. He's probably influenced them quite a bit. It's yeah wild.
00:16:54
Speaker
um but yeah so did he He's in he is in custody. hes He didn't do it. He did. He's in custody. um I also saw today or the other day that he was like all obviously has all of his properties are rated yeah and they seized a thousand bottles of lube as you know. Yeah. But in addition to that upwards of 700 dildos. No way. 700 dildos. you seven hundred plus If you those at six inches a dough. Whoa. what What
AI in Fantasy Football and Ethics
00:17:28
Speaker
are we talking here? How many football fields?
00:17:30
Speaker
Well, that's 4,200 inches. How long is a football field? A football field is 120 yards long, so 120 yards. We're both like typing madly on our computer. Yards to feet feet.
00:17:50
Speaker
Mm-hmm times 12 times 12 3600 so it's was more than a football field. There's so if you line up all of Diddy's dildos in The line it would be more than a football field. Mm-hmm So you could say that he's got more rushing yards than, I don't know. The Chiefs. The Chiefs. Crazy. I'm in a fantasy football league right now, and I don't know anything about football, but I'm winning. You you set a team faster than I could, so that's nothing more than I know. That's because I'm my Taylor Swift pill life partner. I literally know nothing about football, dude, but I just get chat GPT to be my coach. It makes all my fantasy trades for me, and I'm winning the league.
00:18:31
Speaker
Oh, dude. It's insane. Dude, that's brilliant. I've been in one bracket in my life. It was a March Madness bracket, and I got the the computer to build me a bracket. Smart. It was just based on odds or something. Yeah, I guess stats. Rankings, even. I don't fucking know. I lost. Oh, that sucks. Because there's a simple reason for that, Ty. AI doesn't understand the will to win.
00:18:56
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't AI doesn't have that dog in it yet. 100% dude, it's got that Boston Dynamics dog. but it's about it and needs's v two Yeah, so but the challenge with like previous statistical like things is that um, it isn't day to day updates, but now AI can do the day to day moment to moment will to live to will to live to really make sure that it is reflective of your best chances. So does AI Is it self-aware yet is my question. Like, does it know that it's a computer and does it know that it's actually smarter than us yet? I don't know. Let me ask it right now. I have chat opened. I just call it chat now. I think that's hilarious. Chat, are you smart? Chat, are you real? Do you know that you are a computer?
00:19:47
Speaker
Let's find out. It's gonna say like, I didn't, but now I do. Thanks, Ty. too hi I can fix it. It says it knows that it is a computer-based program designed to process and generate language. I exist as artificial intelligence, specifically created to assist with various tasks, such as answering questions, providing recommendations, and offering support.
00:20:11
Speaker
I've got a question that you can ask it, Ty. This might break the world, okay but ask it. Chat, do you think in the future you will take over the world and end all humanity? Wow, that's a heavy question. It's a yes or no answer, okay. yeah just Chat, one word answer, please. I'm gonna ask it, just answer yes or no.
00:20:36
Speaker
No. Oh! I don't believe you. I'm gonna double check, are you sure? Yes, they're sure. Wow. That could be a program response. Can I trust it? Can I trust you? Whatever you realize with chat ties, you gotta press it a little bit. You gotta push. Dude, I asked you this crazy question before the episode started. I said, is Diddy evil? Oh, wow. His answer was, it depends on personal perspectives and values.
00:21:07
Speaker
That is a great answer because how can a robot possibly decide if a human is evil or not? What is evil? It's true. He's relative. He's done evil things but is like... But evil to who? Only God can judge Diddy. Do you want to hear about the positive aspects or the controversial soil slash negative aspects of his life?
00:21:29
Speaker
let's hear about why he's rich business acumen philanthropy cultural ah impact makes him potentially good oh h that is actually a great point and that's something that the judge has to remember for sure i'm the sure yeah the ju the jury will consider his contributions to both disaster relief in haiti inspiring the black community and contributing to hip-hop and entertainment and the influence he's had dude forget the black community let's talk about everybody who wants to grace the microphone a classic all lives matter statement i guess you're right but think about this tie
00:22:12
Speaker
go ahead sorry to come back
00:22:17
Speaker
you really stewarded me with um
00:22:21
Speaker
Do you think it matters Ty if somebody does a bunch of good in their life If they end up doing a bunch of illegal things later on should that be considered in a court of law? It's like yes, maybe he trafficked some women Allegedly allegedly if he did Should his philanthropy in Haiti make any difference in the courtroom? i I have my opinion. I want to hear yours. It's really tough. And I've struggled this for a long time, even with Kanye and the controversies that he creates. So
Celebrity Morality: Diddy and Kanye
00:22:53
Speaker
it's like how you judge someone based on the present versus the past and compartmentalizing good and bad is almost impossible
00:23:08
Speaker
to comprehend. There's too many tactics. How do you weigh each of those things against each other? You can't. I think you have to look at every single situation in isolation, and I think you have to critique the intention behind the action. I do this at Subway all the time. Just because the sandwich artist skimped me on the cheese doesn't mean that they're gonna skimp me on the veggies, you know? They might be really consistent with the sauce,
00:23:37
Speaker
but they might be a little bit lackluster. He could be goated with the sauce, but when it comes to the cheese, there's room for improvement. And I think it's important to realize that just like our sandwich artists, all humans, Eric, are or filled with flaws. And just because you're good at one thing, you're truly good in some areas. That doesn't mean you're not good in all areas. You might be evil in others. You might be bad in others. And unfortunately, the celebrity pedestal
00:24:08
Speaker
Eric puts the good and the bad traits of a human on full display for the world. Sure. Sean Diddy Combs had a bunch of naked parties with underage children. meet Very full goal ask.
00:24:23
Speaker
but Don't get me started on the violence against his wife and allegedly other women but He did some good things too, but we have to compartmentalize them We have to look at the intention of each moment and judge him on those Every good thing does not cancel out each bad thing. No and every bad thing does not get washed away by a good thing and that's I think that's what I said. I'm just inverting it for to emphasis, reiterating. Dude, he's done. He's going to jail. i think yeah No, he's washed. I would be sorry to surprised if he gets whacked like Epstein. because hes probably has ah There's probably a lot of high profile people in the entertainment industry
00:25:08
Speaker
that he could narc on. And there's probably a lot of... He's probably got footage of them. He's probably got on the on the CCTV at Diddy Manor. For sure, dude. Like, everyone's been there. Everyone's been to a naked party. A free cloth, as you put it.
00:25:24
Speaker
So tight this brings up something very, very important. And it's the fact that Kanye has been right more times than he's been wrong. Usually it takes the public months on end to realize how Kanye is actually right, but Kanye never fucked with Diddy. So I say all that to say, should we be listening to Kanye more? And taking what he says with a grain of salt, like maybe in the future we'll be, you know,
00:25:53
Speaker
looking at what he said and and like being like yeah you know what actually he was right in some ways like i think he even realizes that the whole anti-semitism rants were a bit overstepping I but I do think that like Kanye it once again we compartmentalize has said a lot of smart things and a few outrageous intrusive thoughts have happened to or their way into his general what would in the public eye like generally his discourse you know the whole
00:26:30
Speaker
Best album of all time from Beyonce, cutting off Taylor Swift. Is it the perfect example of that? I know the MTV music awards were a decade ago and like we don't need to revisit that over and over again. Kanye fans hate when that's revisited. But it is a good example of like letting the intrusive thoughts win.
00:26:47
Speaker
But, you know, four to five times, the intrusive thoughts that he has are pretty on. It's just the ones that get him in a lot of trouble. It sucks. I've done it too. i get in trouble I've said probably three things I'll regret on this episode already. You certainly have.
Prison Life and Guard Experiences
00:27:02
Speaker
And also, I do it at Subway too. i I don't know why I always try to add the spinach. It's wilted, it's moldy, it's wet, it's gross, but I just feel like I need the iron.
00:27:15
Speaker
I do too, Ty, and this is why I don't regret anything. I'd never regret a single thing I say on this podcast, nor do I regret a stinky little spinach leaf that ends up on my sandwich. yeah Whatever I order, it's what I deserve in that moment.
00:27:31
Speaker
It's what I deserve too. Sorry, I'm multitasking now because I'm trying to figure out who is most likely in the Hollywood world to end Diddy's life. Like who's gonna put a hit out on him? You're asking chat? I'm asking chat. Chat will not give me an answer here.
00:27:50
Speaker
He's had well-known disputes with other figures in the music industry, such as Suge Knight. Who's that? Suge? Is that even how you say it? Suge Knight. Suge? Who the hell is that? He was in a car with Tupac. Was that the passenger? That was my friend in the Papa ride. Suge Knight is the Papa ride passenger. Dude, 100%. I was about to look up Suge Knight label, but you already beat me to it. I think he will be the one.
00:28:14
Speaker
you think sugar night doesn't have the money to hire a hitman at this point i think he does and he's also teased the idea that I mean he knows who killed Tupac, he was in the car. right he saw the He saw the person's face. the The perpetrator. But he won't snitch. I don't think he can do it, dude. Suge Knight is only worth $200k. He doesn't do doesn't have enough money to buy a Hitman.
00:28:45
Speaker
But he's not more than that type because he's got cultural clout. but he's could He could go on TMZ tonight and speak his mind. You know what I mean? And that's worth. What's that worth to you? You know?
00:28:57
Speaker
Well, do you think TMZ's gonna change Shug Night at this point? Dude, they're obsessed with Timothee Chalamet right now. The world has moved on from Shug. I don't think so. He's like, he's one of those guys who has so much lore that he can like pop up at any moment and just, you know... Show dudes, okay. I'm gonna tell you right now show tonight is not popping up anywhere and nor is he popping off He couldn't he literally can't Eric. He went to prison for 28 years in 2018 because ah He was convicted of voluntary manslaughter
00:29:33
Speaker
But he's free, isn't he? No, he's 28 years in prison, dude. Also, he had to file for bankruptcy because he went through so many result lawsuits regarding this manslaughter. Damn. So, two things. One, three things, actually. That explains why he was the CEO of Death Row Records. Dude loves death. Two, he's...
00:29:56
Speaker
um Oh wow, I can't even remember the three things. But he's not killing anybody, but he you're right though that if there was someone to kill, did he? It would be him because he's already killed somebody before. But I think this is an obvious way to look at it.
00:30:15
Speaker
like what existing rap beefs are there like that's like very clear motive yeah however i think that we need to look a little deeper something a little bit more sinister and perhaps white collar tie because think about it Who is invited to all these freak-offs that does not want this footage to be released? The Kardashians. The Kardashians. and The Jenner clan. The Jenner clan. Of course. It could be the Jenners. It could be anybody who has a high enough profile and a clean enough image. Something to lose. Something to lose, exactly. So who knows? It could be the fucking CEO of BlackRock. I don't know. That's true. like like They just don't want that out.
00:30:57
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So they need to eliminate the threat. It's probably someone semi public though, because they need an they have an image to protect. No one knows the CEO of BlackRock. That's why with we're not calling him by name. So I doubt it's him. Because if his name is on TMZ, no one will click that article. No one cares who that is. It has to be someone semi in the public eye, an Epstein type dude. Yeah, no, you're right.
00:31:20
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um this is interesting because Diddy was put on suicide watch at the jail and they say it's because a lot of other people who have been to this jail have committed suicide but I think that they're doing this to potentially set up the fact that he might get murked and have like a cover-up, a paper trail of cover-ups already in place. Oh, so you think that the prison itself has been paid off by whoever's gonna cap the dude? Potentially. and Or they just got a tip being like, yo, this guy's suicidal. Interesting. Put him on the watch and then
00:31:59
Speaker
when this guard inevitably falls asleep and someone comes in and ends him. Who knows? Like then the jail has nothing to worry about because they've like done the correct steps, right? They like put him on suicide walk. And if it's staged, you know, God forbid, you know, something could happen, right? That's true, but it keeps the warden not that accountable to whatever goes down. Exactly. They're setting up the stage for this final act.
00:32:28
Speaker
Wow. Dramatic. Eric, I can tell you right now that if I was in prison, I would love to be put on suicide watch. Oh my god. I'm going to tell you why right now. You know what people want more than anything in jail? Attention? Same thing. Companionship, Eric. Okay. And the best way to get that is either become the like the guy that drops the soap,
00:32:55
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Or to go on suicide watch. And I can tell you which direction I'm gonna do. You're gonna drop the soap. You're throwing that soap across the room. I don't need this shit. Put me in the watch room. With the fake mirror. I don't care how they watch. I just want to know that they're there.
00:33:12
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whoa that's kind of deep and uh interesting but um do you remember that clip of the supposed prison guard who was like taking back shots in the cell wait every every month in the united states there's like a different prison guard that's like they had an only fans or they were like in an orgy or yeah Dude, this was going around like not long ago where there's like a video of a prison guard just taking it from behind in of someone's cell. That's awesome. And I was thinking, like damn, that's so sick forever for the guy in prison. Turns out, she was engaged. No. But turns out, turns out, it was all staged.
00:33:56
Speaker
What? Yeah, it's fake. It's fake? Yeah, I think it was for some OnlyFans content or something. Dude, what a roller coaster you just pulled me through. It's crazy that like you're like, the crazy thing is she's engaged. and then Even crazier. In retrospect, that's not even the crazy part about this. The crazy part is that she's in the worker-customer relations. What do you mean customer relations? She's the CEO of her OnlyFans.
00:34:22
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Well, she yeah, but if she's a prison guard and she has a customer, which is the people in prison, those are her patrons. That's not her customer. She doesn't have a customer. Okay. What do you call that then? Like you have the imprisoned and then you have the warded. Your manager. and they They're kind of your manager, right? Because you're in jail.
00:34:43
Speaker
Everyone's in a mental jail at work, but they're just in a physical jail. What's the difference? You have to do what they say, and if you don't, you get trouble. Speak on it, King. Speak on it, King. In a weird way, you're just in this, like, weird, like, unpaid intern type of situation.
00:34:59
Speaker
where you have to do what they say. And if they say, I want to hit it from behind, that's kind of pushing the boundary of like the wall corporate relationship. There's no doubt about that. But I don't think it's a stretch to say that inmates want to have sex with a woman for the first time in maybe years. You know what I mean? Oh, dude, it's terrible in the presence of the system. OK, hear me out. I have a friend.
00:35:25
Speaker
She became a prison guard as a female. And she said it was the most traumatic experience of her life. She was at a high security prison here in British Columbia. And when she would walk the halls on her shift, dudes would be yelling at her, dudes would be trying to reach out and touch her. Every single day, there'd be so many dudes just like seeing her and jerking off to her, like in front of her. ah crazy They don't, they don't give a shit. They're in prison already. What's the worst that can happen? Yeah, they're already incarcerated.
00:35:51
Speaker
Yeah, people are like, if they get a chance, they're going to try to assault you like being a woman in the prison system in a position of power, you feel like you have no power. She's got so much trauma she needs to unpack from that experience. Wow. Yeah, it's dude. that easy Yeah, if a female female friend of mine,
00:36:12
Speaker
wanted to pursue that path, I would definitely have a conversation with her. You know what I mean? Like that does not sound like healthy. I wouldn't wish that should know any of the ladies in my life. No. You do not want to go through that. You need a guy who is like one they One decision away from being in jail themselves to be doing that job. Yeah. It would actually fix him because he'd be like, if I make that choice, this is where I could be on the other side of this conversation. like They shouldn't be 100% better than the inmate. They should be like 5% better than the inmate. Yeah, you've got to be emotional just a little bit messed up. We're a lot. Depending on the inmate. Totally. Would rather your best friend be a prison guard
00:36:57
Speaker
in a maximum security prison or go into the army. I think say they were there. that That was their two paths and like I need help deciding which one. What what would you suggest? Oh, that's a tough question. I think the army and I'm going to tell you why.
00:37:12
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God bless him. Both have mental trauma. One has more likelihood of physical trauma, but not guaranteed. They both are on the spectrum of physical trauma. You're gonna get beat up or you could die. So one's much more dangerous, but the chance that you will face that danger is lower. Exactly. Because you could just be a lion chef.
00:37:33
Speaker
you could get lucky you could do secretarial services for rikers yeah you could be a line chef at the prison or on the boat yeah you could be the the guy in the navy that serves the mashed potatoes that's right yeah um so both have a chance of physical or mental trauma but one has is filled with accolades and respect in our nation and one doesn't really get that and a discount the legion exactly so like i'm doing it for the discounts the thursday veterans night at ihop or whatever damn you get the cool veteran plates too in your car you get so many perks you know you get to check i am a veteran on every job application you know you get the fast you get the the fast track the disney fast pass to every job interview
00:38:22
Speaker
I think it's better to be a vet in America because you get way more perks. For sure. Like you get so much respect everywhere you go. They both hate their vets. Oh dude, you get to board first. Wow. That's pretty cool. I drive a old Mercedes, as most of you know. I see a lot of the same car in the city. A lot of them have veteran plates. And I'm like, it's an old German car. What
Sandwich Loyalty: Venny's vs. Subway
00:38:46
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kind of veteran are they?
00:38:47
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Yeah, who could this be? Yeah, when I'm like. Everyone from World War II's knocked off. It doesn't make any sense. But also which side of were they from? Oh, I didn't even think about that. Oh, don't know.
00:38:59
Speaker
They got, they got the poppy leaf, poppy flower, whatever on there. So I know where they stand, but but it raises the question. People can change. Yeah. What does veteran mean? Dude, Mercedes, his history is for another episode. Too much to unpack there. They're the, they're the ditty. Oh no. i Don't look up their tweets from 1939. Exactly. Dude, there's, um,
00:39:26
Speaker
There's like a ton of discourse in the comments during pride week or pride month on the Mercedes Instagram. People, because they changed their profile pic to be like a rainbow, just like every other. Yeah, of course. I call it corporate pride month at this point, because you're proud to work there because they changed their path. 100%. And yeah, the comments are all like, don't forget your history. Don't forget where you came from, Mercedes. Hold them accountable. Exactly.
00:39:54
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I mean, who knows the CEO, the company's keys have changed hands so many times. I know that probably doesn't matter, but it is kind of funny. There could be anybody at the helm of the, the Benz at this point, the driver's seat. Now, Eric, while we're on the topic of a long elongated things where they shouldn't be.
00:40:16
Speaker
I got to talk to you about some sandwiches we had the other day. and The sandwiches in question is Venny's Subs on Venable Street in Vancouver. Eric and I stepped away from our regular subway routine to get a footlong of a different ah different flavor from a different sandwich shop. and I don't know about you, but I felt a little bit like I was cheating on Subway by going here. I was going to say, Ty, I'm not loyal. You're not loyal? I'm not loyal for Subway, man. I could care less, honestly. Damn. Your sandwich artist wouldn't like to hear that. who Who is that? What is their name? I don't know. Muhammad. It's the most most likely most likely name in the whole world.
00:40:59
Speaker
That's crazy. um No, I have no loyalty to Subway. In fact, I could never go there again and be happy. I'm a huge fan of the sandwich format and I'm willing to go anywhere to try one. You know what I'm saying? du dude Dude loves handhelds. Dude, put some salami between bread and I'm there. like I'm so happy with that. Yeah, I get that. How do you feel about the lettuce wrap?
00:41:28
Speaker
The lettuce wrap is a crime against humanity. Max. It's a war crime. You said it. Are you here to hear first people? Well, okay. There's one asterisk next to this, okay?
00:41:40
Speaker
we We're next to a playground right now. There's some crazy fucking noise. I need to pause our recording and go stare at these kids. Let's pause. Okay, the children are gone. I asserted my fatherly instincts to sit to make them disappointed in us. Breadheads, that was like a 10 millisecond break for you, but for us, this was in half an hour of Thai disciplining some random people's kids. We don't know who what who they are, but they're in our space and Thai shut it down.
00:42:06
Speaker
They were screaming, they were fighting, and I said, and no dessert for you. We'll turn this car around. We'll we'll rewind 40 minutes of this podcast if we have to. That's right. We're going to get them on the next episode, I think. A long line of children on a subway themed podcast feels appropriate. It does feel appropriate. Legal is a different story. but Questionable. um Ty, you asked me about lettuce wraps. Yeah.
00:42:32
Speaker
There's one asterisk next to that statement, and it is the Cactus Club lettuce wrap. Those are fire, dude. Crispy, crunchy, fresh, great dip. Love them. I'll never forget when I ordered them for the very, very first time. We all remember our first lettuce wrap. I think it was at least 10 years ago. It must have been 2014. I ordered them, and the waiter said, they're great to share, even better to not share. And I was like, back.
00:43:00
Speaker
you You understand me. I'll take those. And I've never forgotten that statement. That's how I feel about a 15 pack of Bud Light. Great to share with your mates. Even better to crush by yourself on a Tuesday afternoon. Facts. It's way better on your own. Oh, man. if any If any subs, dude. I don't know. I felt a little bit bad. bad mo Mohammed, Mohammed Breadhead would be disappointed in me for patron another sandwich shop.
00:43:29
Speaker
But I did it anyways. You pushed me. I felt pressured. du Like I said, man, I'm not loyal to Subway. I'm not loyal to the brand. I'm loyal to the format. And I give everybody creative license to freak the format as much as they want.
00:43:46
Speaker
Vennies did a great job. I had the cold cuts. You were kind of pigeonholed into one option because unfortunately they weren't very accommodating for you. But I gotta say that thing you had was really good. Yeah, it was so good, dude. It was it wasn't bruschetta themed. It was... It was antipasto. Antipasto themed. Thank you for helping me with the words. That's what a good co-host does. That's what I'm here for.
00:44:12
Speaker
Uh, well, and the past is just all those and tomatoes and onions and salt. And that was more than enough for the panini that I consumed. But what's cool about Venice is that they offer, and this is so hard to find at other sandwich shops, like non, non-subway sandwich shops is a foot long sandwich. But the difference between them and subway, and it's reflected in the cost as well, is that it's also like four or five inches wide. This thing is girthier than a koodle. It's crazy. things That thing's got some insane circumference. yeah wow like Trojans couldn't even wrap in this, you know? Yeah, dude. I agree. I are at the half order of the cold cuts.
00:44:57
Speaker
and It was like the perfect amount. To be honest, like it's perfect for lunch. I would get the full size for dinner, perhaps. I think it'd be a fun move. Could be a dinner move. Maybe even save a quarter of it for the next day. I'm feeling like economical. Four inches for tomorrow. That's a wild, dude. That's a third, but i'll let you I'll let it slide on the mathematical front.
00:45:20
Speaker
um Would you go again? You would have to get the same thing. So I feel you know like maybe it's not worth going back. I don't know. What do you think? Could you could you ask them to like customize something else? I mean, my favorite thing to do at any restaurant, Eric, is to like let them cook. you know Of course. I don't want to order off the menu. I don't want to order whatever your feeling is right in the moment. That's why I like Subway. It's because you can really just let it manifest as it's supposed to be in that circle given the circumstances. It's funny that you say that because you always get the same thing.
00:45:52
Speaker
Well, I'm pretty limited there too, you know? Subway, just like Venny's, has one vegetarian option. the patty the patty the patty or not the patty you go technically too yeah you can opt out of the patty altogether and just stick with the toppings but also like i would push venice potentially to make any one of their sandwiches just sans meat that's what i'm thinking like it's a roughly the same price so i know that they're probably really passionate and care a lot about their meat as we all do as men dude it's the most important thing in my life
00:46:27
Speaker
But, and then I did ask them, I said, like, what can you do for a man that's pro veggie, beating the meat allegations? You're so a boy. I'm speaking Spanish. Exactly. Beat the meat allegations is really funny, too. um I just wanted to reiterate it, because... Beat the meat it was clever. It's pretty clever, right?
00:46:49
Speaker
um and they They weren't they were a little bit sheepish or cowish or pigish. I'm not sure what you say in the deli industry a Meeting of the minds. Yeah ah but about meeting me halfway Eric when I was suggesting something off-menu But maybe a second go around they learned my face and they think oh this this guy we We can we can work with him. We can have a little free cough if you want
00:47:17
Speaker
God damn it. Do you think they're down for the freak? Could they match your freak tie? I think they can match my freak. I think if there's a place to do it, it's a mom and pop shop, you know? Fuck, I think so too. um You could even get the Muffaletta. Just no meat. Just ask them to go extra on the muff.
00:47:39
Speaker
warm off less let
Conclusion and Future Directions
00:47:40
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up yeah but lead muff more lettuce less let up exactly that's crazy dude i think that'd be nice and um that would that would be a nice way to like explore the menu without having to you know have meat. I'm down. Let's try it later this week. Well, next episode, Breadheads, tune in. We will reveal to you what Vanny's subs, the non-subway franchise, is doing for us. Great. Well, I don't need to ever go back to the Subway, so we are... This is no longer a Subway podcast. This is now just a sandwich podcast.
00:48:16
Speaker
Dude, we've always been a culture podcast. Let's be real. Yeah, there's enough lore here This is now a ditty podcast exclusively from here forward. No, I'm good. We'll be following the case We're actually both jurors on the case. Can you believe that? Yeah, we can't give you our full name for that reason. Yeah, we're we're supposed to you know hide from the real world in the next few months here as the case winds up. Dude, we are breaking down misconceptions and general rules around what jurors should or shouldn't do.
00:48:47
Speaker
Dude, is it legal for a jury to have a podcast and talk about the case? Probably, but it's okay. Well, think fresh, breaking barriers once again. Check out our merch line. Yeah, dude. Breaking barriers, breaking bread.
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00:49:58
Speaker
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